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00:00 schestowitz-TR; de la hoya
00:00 XRevan86; Pieskov's interview to Sky News is the most bizarre thing.
00:00 schestowitz-TR; Sky Noise
00:00 XRevan86; In the years when I've listened to Pieskov's statements, he never commented on anything in such a way that actually gives any new information.
00:00 *hoy is now known as ahoy
00:00 bnchs; it is indutably that this digital appartus uses Artifical Intelligence
00:00 MinceR; listening to peskov is bizarre
00:00 XRevan86; But this time something happened, and he actually said things!?
00:00 MinceR; it's like looking for something insightful in strings /dev/urandom
00:01 MinceR; except less likely to work
00:01 XRevan86; Like he acknowledged that the heavy losses of life were tragic.
00:01 MinceR; strange
00:01 MinceR; they didn't seem to mind when they caused them
00:01 TR News; "Market capitalism has one job: to distribute resources and tasks. To do that, it sets prices. It is completely clueless when it comes to values (how much good something can do) and costs (how much pain something caused to create). It instead uses prices to approximate both of those things, and uses markets to set prices." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/price
00:03 MinceR; maybe putler & co are so incompetent they can't determine the likely consequences of starting a war?
00:03 XRevan86; MinceR: This is the first time when any Russian official said anything about the casualties yet.
00:04 XRevan86; MinceR: "maybe" <- absolutely
00:05 ahoy; fo you like to dress casual?
00:05 bnchs; audacity SEGV'd again
00:05 ahoy; casualties if there was an euphemism
00:05 matey; hmm
00:06 matey; i see an imposter
00:06 schestowitz-TR; he casually dress
00:06 schestowitz-TR; casually
00:06 kingoffrance; "ive been trying for 10 minutes" how about monkey playing cymbals, does that work?
00:06 matey; i wasnt looking for that one
00:07 matey; whats more interesting is someone is impersonating me using kiwiirc
00:07 matey; unless thats chicksahoy, then i take it back
00:07 bnchs; do i know what a PNG is? i just want a picture of a god dang monkey puppet
00:08 matey; ahoy: who are you
00:08 ahoy; not you
00:08 matey; obviously
00:08 MinceR; lol
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00:08 matey; i mean obvious to me
00:08 schestowitz-TR; it's ender
00:08 matey; oh okay, i take it back
00:08 matey; if ender comes in as ahoy thats fine
00:09 matey; *i* was ahoy when i first came here
00:09 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, who's ender?
00:09 ahoy; who is enedr is that the movie?
00:09 matey; then i switched to this
00:09 matey; then chicksahoy came here and people assumed it was me
00:09 matey; understandably, but incorrectly
00:10 matey; but this person, i dont know
00:10 schestowitz-TR; chicksahoy was ender
00:10 matey; yes i got that part
00:10 matey; but this person claims to not know who ender is
00:10 matey; which means we have a THIRD ahoy
00:11 schestowitz-TR; ender was a guest in the first ever techbyets episode
00:11 ahoy; ender is the movie
00:11 matey; more of an ahoy convoy
00:11 MinceR; ahoy matey
00:11 ahoy; matey ahoy
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00:14 ahoy; mib_0bkm16 is a bot
00:14 MinceR; (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg
00:14 Alternative link; CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg
00:14 schestowitz-TR; mibbit has bots?
00:15 ahoy; no one real name is a number but for bots
00:15 ahoy; Real name: 185.225.28.135
00:16 immibis; speaking of market capitalism
00:16 bnchs; ahoy: lol IP address
00:16 immibis; isn't it weird how the free market is this magical tool that can allocate resources effectively in any circumstance
00:16 bnchs; nice for mibbit to leak IP address in real name
00:17 immibis; but yet we absolutely must not change the circumstance in which it operates in any way that is detrimental to anyone rich, because the whole thing would collapse?
00:17 bnchs; immibis, i wanted to say i'm sorry if whatever i said made me look like a nazi
00:17 matey; /me doesnt think people need to apologise for not being a nazi
00:17 ahoy; your /me isnt working
00:18 matey; it never does
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00:18 bnchs; i don't want people to think i am
00:18 matey; i dont think any reasonable person thinks you are
00:18 immibis; saying that we shouldn't punish nazis puts you in "useful idiot" territory
00:18 matey; when did he say that
00:18 *ahoy wouldnt use /me is it was broken
00:19 matey; /me isnt you
00:19 immibis; printf \\x01 | xsel -ib
00:19 immibis; <ctrl-v>ACTION does a thing<ctrl-v>
00:19 *immibis does a thing
00:19 bnchs; immibis, ughhh i didn't want to bring this shit again
00:19 immibis; did that work at all?
00:19 matey; what was it supposed to do?
00:19 immibis; manually send a /me
00:20 matey; i dont think i can shell into this
00:20 immibis; did you see "* immibis does a thing" or did you see "<immibis> [?]ACTION does a thing[?]"
00:20 matey; oh you mean copy and paste
00:20 bnchs; look, i said what i said
00:20 bnchs; i don't care anymore
00:20 matey; bnchs: you shouldnt worry about this
00:21 ahoy; you will once we get you to nuremberg
00:21 matey; if nuremberg was doing its job, half the idiots in charge would be hanging from a rope
00:21 bnchs; ok
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00:22 matey; nurembergs been bloody useless for three quarters of a century
00:22 psydruid; bnchs, heil nazi
00:22 matey; aww man
00:22 immibis; nuremberg is now one excuse that nazis are using to excuse murdering people who oppose nazis, btw
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00:22 immibis; calling it "nuremberg 2.0" where nazis will set up a kangaroo court to find all the anti-nazis guilty
00:23 matey; nazis always find dumb excuses to kill people
00:23 matey; i mean that was the whole point-- finding dumb excuses to kill people
00:23 activelow; the court had to judge war crimes, not nazis
00:23 matey; if you cant find really stupid reasons to kill lots of people, youre kind of shit at being a nazi tbh
00:24 activelow; not all nazis were war criminals, and not all war criminals are nazis
00:25 ahoy; if theres no war no nazis can be war criminals
00:25 ahoy; no mater what they do
00:25 matey; maybe they can be special military operations criminals
00:26 immibis; what's shameful is that so many people just take the nazi wordplay bullshit as given
00:26 immibis; nazis: "Oh we are just going to see if anyone did anything wrong and punish them if so." most people: "oh okay, carry on then"
00:26 matey; well its not like nazis 1.0 were any better
00:27 matey; "oh okay, carry on then" <- basically what they said to the original version as well
00:27 matey; people in general are pretty blase about war crimes
00:27 matey; i dont get it
00:28 matey; its like they think war criminals are election material
00:28 matey; as evidenced by the fact that not only to they elect them in office-- which we could complain about
00:28 matey; they actually go to the polls and deliberately vote for these people.
00:28 matey; how many civilians did this arsehole kill for a construction company?
00:29 matey; oh i dont know, but i dont want the other guy to get in!
00:29 matey; MooooOOOooooOOoooo
00:30 matey; we wouldnt be any worse off if we let livestock vote
00:30 matey; they might be better at it
00:31 ahoy; livestock isnt that what the nazis called the jews?
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00:31 matey; lots of people refer to each other as livestock
00:31 matey; cattle, sheep, etc
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00:31 activelow; "human resources"
00:32 matey; indeed
00:32 kingoffrance; ^
00:32 dude; clownfuck is down for almost 2 days now. https://101010.pl/@mypdns_status
00:32 TR Bot; Status (@mypdns_status@101010.pl) - 101010.pl
00:32 ahoy; for me livestock is the likes of elon musk
00:32 bnchs; lol
00:32 immibis; matey: people are blase about the rise of nazis until they seize power and genocide the minorities du jour. And then they remain pretty blase
00:32 bnchs; clownflare should kill themselves
00:32 dude; they finally dead?
00:32 matey; immibis: yes
00:32 dude; oh
00:32 matey; but theyre blase about all the other war criminals as well
00:32 matey; unless theyre told not to be
00:32 immibis; maybe russmany invading ukroland is the start of people being less blase in general, but probably not
00:33 matey; usually by other war criminals
00:33 ahoy; livestock is the likes of elon musk
00:33 matey; but probably not <- but probably not
00:33 ahoy; cause they hold lots of stoks
00:33 kingoffrance; ive seen media say how great it is their is social media to document things.......so im leaning towards humanity is doomed
00:33 kingoffrance; *there
00:34 matey; immibis: if enough people abandon capitalism they will figure out who the war criminals are
00:34 matey; seems odd that not understand war crimes would be a "side effect" of accepting capitalism
00:34 kingoffrance; war crimes and free nuggets for a year, i get my news from social media
00:34 matey; but once you reject capitalism it becomes clearer why there are so many fucking war crimes
00:35 matey; kingoffrance: REALLY? free nuggest?
00:35 matey; /me saw the thing about free nuggets somewhere
00:35 matey; what comic was that
00:36 ahoy; free nuggets of wisedom
00:36 immibis; i doubt it's because of capitalism
00:36 matey; and yet
00:37 ahoy; there's a prediction of recession for the us
00:38 ahoy; maybe they stop being capitalists then
00:40 ahoy; its hard being capitalist if you got no capital
00:40 activelow; my grandparents suffered from those during WW2: bombed by the "allies" when hiding inside basement, hunger, mass unemployment
00:40 activelow; the impact on the psyche is noticable, 70years later, still
00:40 MinceR; according to one definition, that's literally the only way to not be a capitalist :>
00:41 matey; that's literally the only way <- lol, what is?
00:41 activelow; and remembering some of my relatives who died already, they cannot defend themselves against accusations of "nazi"
00:41 MinceR; not owning capital
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00:41 activelow; by coincidence, i remembered an Uncle of mine, who died some years ago, who had given me books, priceless book
00:42 activelow; my grandfather died 10 years ago, who was _forced_ to serve in hitler youth, at the age of 15years, and had to risk his live at flak air defense against "allied" bombing
00:43 activelow; my other grandfather is dead too already, who was hunting soviet tanks with rocket launchers as a teenager, and his mother died when he was 14 years old
00:43 activelow; now, when i am reading the rubbish and crap in this channel
00:43 matey; when i am reading the rubbish and crap in this channel <- if only you were more specific
00:44 schestowitz-TR; the "Allies" invaded Germany?
00:44 schestowitz-TR; that's not how I remember the world wars
00:44 activelow; it isn't "Nazi" what i remember, and who the war criminals were
00:44 activelow; who the victims were, and what had to be remembered about them
00:45 schestowitz-TR; Poland was invaded by the victims
00:45 schestowitz-TR; France offered asylum to Germans?
00:45 activelow; poland collaborated
00:45 schestowitz-TR; with who?
00:45 matey; "invaded" is a politically neutral (technical) term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Allied_invasion_of_Germany
00:45 TR Bot; Western Allied invasion of Germany - Wikipedia
00:45 schestowitz-TR; poland was invaded
00:45 schestowitz-TR; from both sides
00:45 activelow; schestowitz-TR: _bolshevists_
00:46 schestowitz-TR; no
00:46 matey; nah, stalin killed the bolshevists
00:46 schestowitz-TR; poland was "split" between hitler and stalin
00:46 schestowitz-TR; stalin and hitler initially collaborated
00:46 *XRevan86 reads what's written here.
00:46 schestowitz-TR; at poland's expense
00:46 XRevan86; holy shit
00:48 matey; the allies did invade germany. a victory would have been difficult without an invasion.
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00:49 schestowitz-TR; "the police put handcuffs on me"
00:49 schestowitz-TR; "the brutes"
00:50 matey; you seem to consider the term "invasion" as accusatory, or for it to refer to only whoever "started" it
00:50 matey; "you started it!" "no we didnt!" "yes you did, you invaded poland!"-- fawlty towers, "the germans"
00:50 schestowitz-TR; japan was invading many countries also
00:50 schestowitz-TR; ended up nuked, twice
00:51 XRevan86; activelow: I don't really follow your point.
00:51 matey; yes, lots of invasions in a "world war"
00:51 schestowitz-TR; history has more sympathy to the countries invaded far, far from japan
00:51 XRevan86; activelow: But as a contemporary Nazi nation member, I can sympathise I guess.
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00:51 schestowitz-TR; now we have invasion of ukraine
00:51 schestowitz-TR; one of the biggest countries in europe
00:52 matey; yes, that is also an invasion
00:52 matey; a needless and nasty one
00:52 schestowitz-TR; would be kind of epic if, at the end, ukraine will "invade" moscow
00:52 schestowitz-TR; and bring putin to his knees
00:52 schestowitz-TR; the dawn of the UKEmpire
00:52 schestowitz-TR; the second
00:52 XRevan86; Ukraine definitely doesn't have resources for that.
00:52 matey; it wouldnt be ukraine
00:52 matey; it would be nato
00:52 schestowitz-TR; UKraimpire
00:53 matey; and the worst thing it could become is "epic"
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00:53 schestowitz-TR; starring a comedian and his sidekick Joe
00:53 XRevan86; FYI, Putin is not in Moscow.
00:53 schestowitz-TR; oh, he is retrearting already?
00:54 bnchs__; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gifar
00:54 TR Bot; Gifar - Wikipedia
00:54 XRevan86; schestowitz: He's called a bunker senior for a reason, it's not a figure of speech.
00:54 schestowitz-TR; lol, well, he's easy to fit in one
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00:55 schestowitz-TR; "quick, check the underwear cabinet, he must be hiding somewhere"
00:55 matey; he really is russias answer to napoleon. although napoleon wasnt really that short
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00:56 schestowitz-TR; he liked sarko better than assad
00:57 XRevan86; Modern technology is truly amazing, a dictator can literally sit in a bunker, never leave and orchestrate the madness remotely.
00:58 bnchs__; whats his power source
00:58 schestowitz-TR; call him putinstation
00:58 schestowitz-TR; PS69
00:58 bnchs__; stalin putinstation
00:58 schestowitz-TR; a rfelic from soviet kgb
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 373.71
00:59 matey; <XRevan86> Modern technology is truly amazing, a dictator can literally sit in a bunker, never leave and orchestrate the madness remotely. <- and yet high command has long been SORT OF like this
00:59 kingoffrance; ^
00:59 matey; i mean, when was the last time the leader of a nation was on the front lines while in office?
00:59 kingoffrance; people say thats how the non-dictators also roll
01:00 kingoffrance; and why the cia is so messed up -- all about tech
01:00 kingoffrance; or "full spectrum dominance" whatever
01:00 kingoffrance; and any other "intelligence" suffers
01:00 kingoffrance; unless they got tanks invading, dont care
01:01 matey; kingoffrance https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C-CG5w4YwOI
01:01 TR Bot; "Weird Al" Yankovic - Party In The CIA (Parody of "Party In The U.S.A." by Miley Cyrus) - Invidious
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01:01 matey; now the real party begins
01:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Well, the Impala has a problem that's going to be too expensive to justify fixing.
01:01 DaemonFC; So I'm probably going to buy a new car next week.
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01:01 DaemonFC; Well, newer.
01:02 matey; "lame impala"
01:02 DaemonFC; My mechanic knows a guy with a 2008 Buick Lacrosse with a 3800 V6.
01:02 schestowitz-TR; ballmer the impala'
01:02 DaemonFC; That was the Series 3 (the Impala has the Series II).
01:02 matey; vlad the impala
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01:03 DaemonFC; That's a good engine. One of the top ten engines of the 20th century according to Consumer Reports. The Series 3 has improved gaskets and stronger connecting rods.
01:03 DaemonFC; So they took a damned good engine and made it better, and then got rid of it because of CAFE.
01:03 DaemonFC; It went on from 1962 to 2008.
01:03 kingoffrance; "when was the last time the leader of a nation was on the front lines" that was supposedly alexander the great lol
01:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, We were talking about cars this morning and I said I wanted a reliable one without all these dumbass features.
01:04 XRevan86; kingoffrance: He didn't have a bunker.
01:04 matey; well i didnt think george washington counted
01:04 DaemonFC; Well, the Buick only has 55,000 miles on it.
01:04 XRevan86; kingoffrance: So lame for him.
01:04 DaemonFC; So there's a good chance I won't have any Garretsoft on my car for at least a while to go.
01:04 DaemonFC; *Garrettsoft
01:05 kingoffrance; supposedly he asked the philosopher who lived in a tub if he could do anything for him, and the reply was "get out of my sunlight" lol
01:05 matey; no microsoft pluton in your late model saturn?
01:05 DaemonFC; Sensors that are astronomical to replace and tune and total a brand new fucking car right after you get in a fender bender. Shitty auto-drive software that drives over people and into cop cars that the government can assassinate you with. And three transmissions by 100,000 miles.
01:06 DaemonFC; All of this can be your in your 2022 ANYTHING!
01:06 DaemonFC; Act now and we'll throw in BURSTING INTO FLAMES! (Hyundai and Kia only, except in Nebraska!).
01:06 matey; supposedly he asked the philosopher who lived in a tub if he could do anything for him, and the reply was "get out of my sunlight" lol <- i was literally going to mention this when you mentioned alex the just okay
01:06 matey; but i thought it was too random
01:07 matey; still its the first thing i thought of
01:07 DaemonFC; MinceR, Your car can go anywhere! Like, literally, any piece of your KIA engine can land anywhere within a 3 block radius.
01:07 TR News; Latest MITRE Endpoint Security Results Show Some Familiar Names on Top | eSecurityPlanet https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/ Source: esecurityplanet
01:07 Alternative link; CloudFlare: esecurityplanet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/
01:07 TR Bot; MITRE Endpoint Security Results Show Some Familiar Names on Top | eSecurityPlanet
01:07 DaemonFC; Giving it the AMAZING ability to be in 12 places at once!
01:07 DaemonFC; Patent pending...
01:08 MinceR; DaemonFC: lol
01:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I'm finally moving up in the world.
01:08 DaemonFC; This one will have a CD player.
01:08 TR News; wfx: get out from the staging area - Staging driver development tree https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=4a5fb1bbcdf1cccae1f6b9c0277b3796b2a468ef Source: git
01:08 DaemonFC; I've never had one of those in a car before.
01:08 TR Bot; kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git - Staging driver development tree
01:08 schestowitz-TR; it's justa car
01:08 DaemonFC; Everything I've ever driven was so old it had a tape deck, except for the KIA, which had nothing. It had a radio and Bluetooth.
01:08 schestowitz-TR; it'll cost a lot in repairs
01:08 schestowitz-TR; for fake status
01:08 matey; if youre really lucky, someone left a counting crows cd in it
01:09 DaemonFC; The salescritter said they removed the CD player because "young people don't use them and it saves the company like $50 per car".
01:09 DaemonFC; I told him "And then they pass it right along by charging you $27,000 for a KIA when a full size sedan with a V8 in it was $22,000 in 1996.".
01:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Thanks to Biden's economic miracle, the cash depreciates faster than the car.
01:10 DaemonFC; God Bless President Biden and God Bless America!
01:10 matey; grand larceny is an economic miracle
01:11 MinceR; i used to have a car with a CD player in it, but i never used the CD player
01:11 DaemonFC; matey, Well, my mechanic said he wasn't just going to throw an alternator at it and call it a day because the problem would be back and I'd be pissed and he's never seen an alternator start failing the way I'm describing it.
01:11 MinceR; it also had a USB port and an SD card slot so there was really no point :>
01:11 matey; and you trust your mechanic isnt shitting you of course
01:11 matey; because its you, i dont even know why im asking
01:11 DaemonFC; He says it is most certainly a wire somewhere that's broken loose and is getting splashed sometimes and shorting out.
01:12 DaemonFC; I'm sure that he would be perfectly happy to keep sitting there and taking my money every few months for all of these repairs.
01:13 DaemonFC; I told him I'm just getting annoyed and tired of looking at it.
01:13 DaemonFC; I turned down a 2009 Honda Civic he suggested a few months back.
01:13 matey; i cant see you in a honda civic
01:13 DaemonFC; It just had too many miles on it. I'd rather have a 55,000 mile Buick than a 170.000 mile Honda Civic.
01:14 DaemonFC; Yeah, you know. It's a Honda but it's also their cheap little commuter model.
01:14 matey; youre just too far from the sorts of douchebags ive known with honda civics
01:14 DaemonFC; They're not going to pour their heart and soul into it. It'll have cheap rubber shit where a Buick has metal.
01:15 DaemonFC; I don't like the idea of going from a V6 to an Inline 4 on principle.
01:15 matey; wow, i didnt know they made inline 4s
01:16 DaemonFC; Instead of a timing chain that is virtually trouble free for half a million miles or so (assuming you change your oil), you get a cheap rubber belt that you have to replace every 100,000 miles or so.
01:16 matey; /me isnt a car person, but has seriously never heard of inline less than 5
01:16 DaemonFC; It's another rubber piece of shit that can strand you somewhere.
01:16 DaemonFC; Which is exactly what you want more of. /s
01:17 DaemonFC; <matey> wow, i didnt know they made inline 4s
01:17 DaemonFC; Yes, they have for a very long time.
01:17 matey; weird
01:17 DaemonFC; The ones from the 80s and 90s had a nasty reputation.
01:17 DaemonFC; They were shitty and underpowered and you'd only put them in a horrible car.
01:18 DaemonFC; About the most you'd likely get out of one is maybe 100 horsepower.
01:18 DaemonFC; But usually 80-90.
01:19 DaemonFC; The Buick 3800 V6 gets 200. Which is about the same as the 4.6 Modular V8 from Ford up until they revised it in the police model in the later fleet years.
01:19 DaemonFC; You can certainly get 350 horsepower out of a V6 today, and you will find plenty like that, but you have to do some nasty stuff to them to get that out of them, and then you're looking at more engine work over the life of the car.
01:20 matey; "its got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. its a model made before catalytic converters so itll run good on regular gas."
01:20 DaemonFC; LOL
01:20 DaemonFC; Elwood Blues
01:20 matey; yep
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01:20 DaemonFC; He was talking about the Ford Crown Victoria, you know.
01:20 DaemonFC; Which was my favorite car ever. Should NEVER have gotten rid of it.
01:21 matey; as soon as you said "until they revised it in the police model"
01:21 DaemonFC; Yes, the 2011 4.6 produced 250 horsepower.
01:21 DaemonFC; To do that, they used a different tuning program in the PCM, so it was a software change mostly.
01:21 DaemonFC; It caused the fuel economy to go down again.
01:22 DaemonFC; Instead of 18-23 (City/Highway) you get about 16-21 in the cop model.
01:22 matey; but more horsepower?
01:22 DaemonFC; YES!
01:22 matey; sounds like its probably worth it
01:24 DaemonFC; The civilian model wasn't that bad. In 1992, they introduced it at 190, so don't buy that. In 1996, it got bumped to 200 (but with defective DuPont intakes so don't buy it until 2000).
01:24 DaemonFC; Then in 2000, it got bumped again without the defective intakes and 5 more horsepower, to 205.
01:25 DaemonFC; Ford had a recall to replace the intakes, but it's expired and there's a lot of 1996-2000s out there with the defective intakes even though the replacements would have been free.
01:26 DaemonFC; If you can get a 2001-2011, and for a good price, especially without rust on the body, go for it.
01:26 DaemonFC; Although if it's on the older end of that, you'll want to replace all of the brake lines and the fluid first thing you do.
01:26 DaemonFC; They're notorious for brake line decay, but that's a Ford problem in general.
01:27 matey; /me wants a balloon suit and a fan
01:27 DaemonFC; With GM, some of the 3100s were alright as long as they never got DexCool in them or it was completely flushed and replaced for green coolant right away.
01:28 DaemonFC; Same for the 3800 V6 from I think 2000 through 2006.
01:28 DaemonFC; The 2007 and 2008 should come from the factory with improved gaskets that can tolerate it.
01:28 DaemonFC; If you're going with a 3800 V6, get a 1999 or older or the 2007 or 2008.
01:28 matey; id look like a cross between a sumo wrestler and the flying nun, but i dont really care about that
01:28 DaemonFC; Or you'll have the DeathCool problem.
01:29 DaemonFC; I don't like driving small cars.
01:30 DaemonFC; Soon, all you'll be able to buy are small cars, with bad engines, and a lot of malicious software. Made out of the shittiest junk they could find laying around. Designed to fail after the last payment to the finance company.
01:30 DaemonFC; We're close now.
01:30 DaemonFC; They don't want those big steel American tanks anymore. They don't want you bouncing around in the same car you bought 30 years ago.
01:31 DaemonFC; I still see people driving cars from the 1970s and 80s.
01:31 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1hPO5frsXOs
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01:31 DaemonFC; They're primitive. As long as you can find (and occasionally clean) a part, and keep it from rusting, it will continue to work.
01:31 DaemonFC; That's just how they built things back then.
01:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I spend basically no money on clothes or entertainment and do my own haircuts.
01:33 DaemonFC; So I have enough to pay for the car in cash and not worry about it.
01:33 DaemonFC; I was explaining to Mandy the real way you get fucked on a car deal is if you finance it, especially with bad credit.
01:33 DaemonFC; Then the bank takes nearly as much for itself as the car cost to begin with.
01:34 DaemonFC; Or from a dealer, which adds $1,000 to the private party price because fuck you, and then charges you $500 again to document that they sold you the car (printing off a page).
01:35 DaemonFC; You put them both together, you double what you would have spent if you went to some dude with cash.
01:35 DaemonFC; The dealers get cars at auction, they don't know anything about them.
01:36 DaemonFC; The auction houses sell them dirt cheap because they're usually bankruptcy repos and cities that bought a bunch of Impalas and Crown Vics for the cops and spent years chasing people and driving them over curbs.
01:36 DaemonFC; Then, right, the dealer gets the thing for $1,500 maybe, and then says "That's a $7,900 car. Would you like to finance it with us?".
01:37 matey; /me thinks dfc is better at ranting about capitalism than anyone else hes ever met
01:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, By buying the Buick from the original owner myself, with cash, vs. doing the same thing at "Your Choice Autos", I save at least a few thousand dollars and my mechanic knows everything about the car!
01:38 DaemonFC; He has it there on Saturday anyway, he said I can come look at it. It's going in to be detailed.
01:39 DaemonFC; <matey> /me thinks dfc is better at ranting about capitalism than anyone else hes ever met
01:39 DaemonFC; It's not Capitalism.
01:39 DaemonFC; The US is not a capitalist country.
01:39 DaemonFC; There's central planning going on, and we have an Oligarch class.
01:39 DaemonFC; It's more like Russia than most people want to believe.
01:39 *psydruid thinks matey should encourage him to write a book and maybe a series of them
01:40 matey; It's more like Russia than most people want to believe. <- no i believe it
01:40 DaemonFC; You used to be able to say absolutely anything you wanted in this country.
01:40 matey; i dont think dfc is encouragable, no matter how much roy might insist otherwise
01:40 DaemonFC; And you wouldn't have to worry about what the government did to you. Unless you threatened the president or something.
01:40 DaemonFC; And now between the spies and the Cancel Mob, you're fucked if you step out of line.
01:41 DaemonFC; "encouragable"
01:41 matey; Unless you threatened the president or something. <- before lincoln they didnt even give a shit about that
01:41 DaemonFC; incorrigible
01:41 matey; you could say "im going to go kill lincoln" and they would say "okay, good luck"
01:41 matey; incorrigible <- no one would say youre not that
01:41 DaemonFC; My dad finally blocked me on Facebook.
01:41 matey; haha
01:42 matey; what for
01:42 DaemonFC; One of his "facebook friends" insulted me and said she was wiser than I am at the end of it all.
01:42 DaemonFC; And I said, "You're definitely wizened, but not wise.".
01:42 matey; oh boy
01:42 matey; heh
01:43 DaemonFC; Like, "I don't need six paragraphs to cut you down, you old witch. You hag!".
01:44 DaemonFC; It's like The Doctor said. He could finish the Prime Minister off with six words. And he did.
01:44 DaemonFC; "Don't you think she looks tired?"
01:44 matey; that was a good one
01:48 DaemonFC; I figured I'd be able to push the Impala a bit longer. Kind of upset about that.
01:48 DaemonFC; But at least it didn't fail catastrophically.
01:50 matey; now you could finish her off with just six words.
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01:54 DaemonFC; <matey> now you could finish her off with just six words.
01:54 DaemonFC; Don't you think it looks tired?
01:54 matey; heh
01:55 DaemonFC; I
01:55 DaemonFC; ER.... I'd be tired if I was almost two times older than my expected service life.
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02:04 DaemonFC; I'm thinking of opening up individual bank accounts for me and Mandy.
02:05 DaemonFC; Since we're both T-Mobile customers, we can both have an account at T-Mobile Money.
02:05 DaemonFC; They pay 4% on up to the first $3,000.
02:05 DaemonFC; So that protects _some_ of our money from, well, more inflation than our stupid ass bank does.
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02:23 DaemonFC; "You have to make 10 qualifying purchases per month to get 4% APR." Oh, that's easy.
02:24 DaemonFC; I've done this before. You pay $1 on your phone bill every day for 10 days and then they have to pay you the 4% APR, when you would have only made 15 cents in credit card rewards.
02:30 matey; about a week to go until rms does his state of free software speech
02:30 matey; i mean, the date is the 13th, maybe we will see it before the 14th
02:31 matey; we should imagine that it will start to pick up where the fsf left off, around 2014 or so.
02:32 matey; why? i dont know. pixie dust.
02:32 matey; facebook: move fast and break things
02:33 matey; fsf: move slow and watch things get broken
02:33 matey; libreplanet: take an oath and lynch people
02:34 matey; everybody knows the state of free software.
02:34 matey; we are waiting to find out if after 8 years of doing nothing, the fsf knows too.
02:34 matey; and thats the state of free software.
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02:37 DaemonFC; " Bodycount dcmanryan a year ago
02:37 DaemonFC; Don't worry it will change again later on. Samsung Pay used to give points for every purchase no matter how small the charge was. Then they reduced the points. And finally they removed all points from purchases. It's too easy to buy ten things a month."
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02:37 DaemonFC; Finally, I removed Samsung Pay from Android, and then I removed Samsung from my Android.
02:37 DaemonFC; And that's going well.
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02:44 matey; unity is sucking the life out of the fsf
02:44 matey; they need to please the people who want freedom
02:44 matey; they need to please the people who want corporate hegemony
02:44 matey; they want unity, so they will try to appease everyone
02:44 matey; corporate hegemony will win under a banner of freedom.
02:44 matey; everyones happy and nothing changes.
02:45 matey; its very much like the democratic party.
02:46 matey; after many years of illegal wars and marching back and forth between iraq and afghanistan
02:46 matey; the united states finally throws out the fake president and elects CHANGE personified
02:46 matey; then begins 8 years of a brave era of change.
02:46 matey; what changed? the president.
02:46 matey; what else changed? nothing.
02:46 DaemonFC; "Ive had serious misgivings about data compression ever since Microsoft stole STACKER and called it DoubleSpace in the days of MS-DOS. Even after they were sued, lost, paid money, removed it, allegedly rewrote it (without the BUST bug), and called it DriveSpace (now with Scandisk-checking support), it was super sketchy. Instead of doing the obvious thing and just reporting the compressed file size, Microsoft chose to take the space you ha
02:46 DaemonFC; d on the disk, double the figure exactly, and report that as the drives volume size.
02:46 DaemonFC; Then if that wasnt bad enough, if a single byte of the compressed volume became corrupt, you could well lose the entire drives contents, including DOS and Windows, and to make things even worse, they went on to load an incredibly bloated driver (well over 120 KB) into the first 640 KB of RAM (causing the user to be unable to load many programs, and then they went on to mount the compressed volume as C, while putting the real C on
02:46 DaemonFC; H, showing a drive completely filled by one file. Then some users would just delete the file, which succeeded, and would wipe their entire hard drive.
02:46 DaemonFC; Of course, thats Microsoft for you, and that was then and this is now. I havent had any trouble with BtrFS Compress, and with the improvements done on the file system code in BtrFS lately, more and more people are finding it highly reliable in general."
02:47 DaemonFC; -me, from a blog post draft I've been working on.
02:47 matey; i thought it was lag
02:47 matey; im glad its not, thats means we arent both doing it
02:47 matey; ah doublespace
02:48 matey; id have to use half my drive before i considered doubling the size.
02:49 DaemonFC; Added, "This led to running out of hard disk space while it said you had plenty left (common), or having plenty of space, but being told there wasn't any more because the compression ratio of your files was a little better than it predicted (although this was rare)."
02:49 matey; i do this crazy thing when i want more space-- its completely nuts
02:49 matey; i find the largest files, pick some i dont need, and delete them
02:49 matey; fucking crazy, i know
02:49 matey; but IT WORKS!
02:49 matey; and its easy
02:49 DaemonFC; Dear File Manager, Please delete my entire hard drive with one click because H drive.....What's that?
02:50 DaemonFC; Microsoft Qualiry
02:50 DaemonFC; *Quality
02:50 matey; how long did you work for them?
02:50 matey; (how long ago?)
02:50 matey; i know it was another lifetime
02:51 DaemonFC; Added that too....
02:51 DaemonFC; "Dear Microsoft File Manager, Please delete my entire hard drive with one click because H drive..What's that?" -Windows user
02:51 DaemonFC; <matey> how long did you work for them?
02:51 DaemonFC; You mean as an unpaid volunteer?
02:51 matey; aww i thought you were an mvp
02:52 DaemonFC; A few years in the 1990s, and I had to use another alias for my DELETE Internet Explorer stuff on Geocities.
02:52 matey; they never paid you?
02:52 DaemonFC; Yes, that's the MVP program. They don't pay anything. You just get free Microsoft things now and then.
02:52 matey; wow
02:52 DaemonFC; It was like AOL using volunteers to write parts of their site in RAINMAN.
02:52 matey; heh
02:52 matey; what is the um, what was the gist of what they had you do?
02:53 DaemonFC; AOL paid them in free AOL hours.
02:53 matey; aol hours. oof
02:53 DaemonFC; Essentially, the program is that if you're generally knowledgeable and helpful in the Microsoft community, they pin an MVP badge on you. Or at least that's how it worked then.
02:54 DaemonFC; That's their way of saying unpaid technical support.
02:54 matey; i honestly pictured you doing something more sinister
02:54 matey; which you regretted, so
02:54 matey; but you know, i mean i pictured something more
02:55 DaemonFC; No, it's pretty informal.
02:55 matey; well there goes my image of ryan the suit and tie softie
02:55 DaemonFC; AOL actually lost a lawsuit and had to pay their "Community Leaders" minimum wage in the end.
02:55 DaemonFC; With backpay.
02:55 matey; nice
02:55 DaemonFC; Because the court ruled that the type of work was subject to the wage and hour laws.
02:56 matey; but they make exceptions for free software volunteers
02:56 matey; who get paid in sheer treachery
02:57 matey; im not saying every loc should have a dollar attached to it
02:57 matey; just that if people build something for the world
02:57 matey; it shouldnt be co-opted by some dick working for "open source"
02:58 matey; and if the fsf was doing its job, they would at least be fighting THAT
02:58 matey; not trying to put a fucking smiley face on it
02:58 matey; open source is a scam, and free software is... also a scam, if it becomes open source.
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02:59 matey; free software has two jobs: 1. liberate users 2. dont become a scam that makes the first job a farce
02:59 matey; theyre failing at 1 and 2.
02:59 matey; might as well be aol or mvp
03:00 matey; obviously different in matters of degree, but...
03:00 DaemonFC; Yes, I don't think mjg59_ actually releases anything important that he just worked on for the hell of it. I could be wrong.
03:00 matey; still a race to the bottom
03:00 DaemonFC; That's how you know.
03:00 matey; i mean, i consider the problem a lot bigger than one person
03:01 matey; hes fun to throw things at because hes HERE
03:01 matey; in tossing distance
03:01 matey; and hes near the top of the letter, i believe.
03:01 DaemonFC; But "Linux" has been trending that way for years, you know. I think the last figure I saw was with the kernel itself, like 16% were not corporate-sponsored to contribute. That's by lines of code.
03:01 matey; But "Linux" has been trending that way for years, you kno <- i completely agree. linux is a joke.
03:01 DaemonFC; In the 90s, there were some years where 80-90% of the Linux kernel contributions were actual community stuff.
03:01 matey; it doesnt bother me if corporations "contribute"
03:01 matey; only when they start to control it
03:02 matey; and if we let them contribute enough... they WILL start to take control
03:02 DaemonFC; The kernel has certainly gotten bigger just from the amount of junk they stuff in it.
03:02 matey; if we want to limit their control, we have to limit their contributions.
03:02 DaemonFC; Most of which doesn't even apply to you.
03:02 matey; and the fsf isnt prepared to do that.
03:02 matey; Most of which doesn't even apply to you. <- oh it does though
03:02 DaemonFC; /boot on Fedora 15 years ago was like a 150 MB partition?
03:02 matey; it applies to me when i have to get newer hardware to run this shit.
03:02 DaemonFC; Then 10 years ago it was 250.
03:02 DaemonFC; Then a few years later it was 500.
03:03 DaemonFC; Now it's a GB.
03:03 matey; theyre windowsifying it.
03:03 DaemonFC; And the number of old kernels it keeps around hasn't changed.
03:03 matey; if we want to limit their control, we have to limit their contributions, and the fsf cant.
03:03 DaemonFC; Well, the problem is that most users don't really want to fuck with partition size once they have an installation.
03:03 matey; so the fsf is failing at its only real job.
03:03 matey; and they dont seem to give a shit about this.
03:04 matey; most users don't really want to fuck with partition size once they have an installation. <- i repartition on every install.
03:04 matey; its not a big deal.
03:04 DaemonFC; So if the kernel gets MUCH bigger a few years after you installed the OS originally, you may need to remove all old kernels and lower the number of old kernels before you can successfully upgrade your distribution again.
03:04 DaemonFC; And that may only buy you another year or two.
03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 116294 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40083 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 28 days ago
03:05 matey; but heres the heart of the matter
03:05 matey; to make free software work as a movement in the first place
03:05 matey; we had to say "no" to big company bullshit
03:05 DaemonFC; I think it keeps like 3 now. So, like, you could set it to two and then you'd have a while longer.
03:05 matey; to say yes to something else
03:05 matey; and the fsf cant say "no"
03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 31 GB TotalOut: 6.7 GB
03:06 matey; wrap a giant movement-destroying turd in a free license and all the fsf can say is "thank you"
03:06 matey; the companies have figured it out
03:06 matey; and the fsf hasnt. or wont bother telling the people it "fights" for
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:07 matey; but linux is a turd, its one of many
03:07 DaemonFC; Yeah, if the ability to turn off Secure Boot ever goes away, I'll probably just ditch the PC.
03:07 DaemonFC; It's more of a liability than an asset these days and that'll be the last straw.
03:07 matey; did you say fedora was thinking of deprecating it?
03:07 DaemonFC; Like my mechanic telling me how many labor hours to untangle a rat's nest and find an electrical short in my car.
03:07 matey; or deprecating legacy boot that is?
03:08 IPFS; QmTXSm48sqA6HLeyyDAbAxdJ8GTxKK6mhdZHkkxWhkTEcn
03:08 DaemonFC; Yeah, I mean, that could actually remove some bloat.
03:08 matey; how many labor hours to untangle a rat's nest <- THATS EXACTLY WHAT THE LINUX KERNEL IS
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:08 matey; too many labour hours to untangle a fucking rats nest
03:08 matey; thats what systemdick is too
03:08 matey; its the same as your impala
03:08 matey; not the age of the model but the state of the one you own
03:09 matey; and will rms mention any of this in his talk?
03:09 matey; probably not.
03:09 matey; they have nothing to say, they wont face the issues that plague them.
03:09 matey; so theyre just going to bullshit and dance around the problems.
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03:09 DaemonFC; Extlinux only works on legacy BIOS.
03:09 DaemonFC; So that saves 1 MB.
03:09 DaemonFC; Hooray!
03:10 matey; roy acts like if theyre throwing punches, its a real fight
03:10 matey; you know, when someone throws a fight, they dont just stand motionless while someone beats the crap out of them
03:10 matey; when someone throws a fight, they go through the motions to make it look believable.
03:11 matey; but whenever the fsf throws one lousy punch, the fans go YOU SEE! THEYRE STILL DOING IT!
03:11 matey; bullshit.
03:11 DaemonFC; It's an intermittent problem.
03:11 matey; howso?
03:11 DaemonFC; So there's the possibility of spending a lot of money and still turning up nothing.
03:11 matey; oh you mean the car?
03:11 DaemonFC; So this is where I give the car back to mom and say "Don't drive it in bad weather or out of town.".
03:11 matey; heh
03:12 matey; youll get more mileage out of dumping it on her than you ever would fixing it
03:12 DaemonFC; Well, there's a lot of new parts in there and it hardly ever acts up at this point.
03:13 DaemonFC; Maybe a few times a year for 10 seconds each.
03:13 DaemonFC; Just enough to scare you.
03:13 DaemonFC; If you had another car and just used this one as a beater because you have it already, then it can do that until it rusts away.
03:14 DaemonFC; She was in such a hurry to get rid of this one, she replaced it with a 2011 Impala from a used car lot and got another problem car.
03:14 DaemonFC; The problem isn't really so much that it's an Impala. It's that she buys cars from disreputable businesses that get them from bankruptcy auctions and fleets that are finished with them.
03:15 DaemonFC; She never figures out where the car was titled, or if it was in an accident.
03:15 DaemonFC; So it could be Harvey car. Who knows?
03:15 matey; they could get her to take a shittier one if they threw in a pair of airpods
03:15 DaemonFC; You know, they get hurricane damage so they send them up here and auction them off with engines flooded out and electrical damage.
03:16 DaemonFC; They unload them on a mark, like her.
03:16 matey; that would explain the wiring
03:16 DaemonFC; Get her to finance a $3,000 car warranty from some company that doesn't answer the phone.
03:16 DaemonFC; Oh, she bought the 2003 new.
03:16 DaemonFC; Well, kind of new.
03:16 DaemonFC; THey gave her a $3,000 rebate because it was used for a driver's ed program in 2003.
03:16 DaemonFC; On top of the GM family discount.
03:17 DaemonFC; I could get the GM family discount on any new GM vehicle as long as grandma is alive.
03:17 DaemonFC; But $1,500 off a $68,000 car really isn't that much.
03:17 matey; no
03:17 DaemonFC; It used to be $1,500 discount off of a decent car when a decent car was like $25,000.
03:17 DaemonFC; So they nearly tripled the price of the car and the discount is the same, so it barely registers now.
03:18 DaemonFC; I'm better off with a $7,500 2008 Buick.
03:28 matey; in 1983 the bbc sent a computer program to viewers over the television broadcast itself https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VRduwRryVHE
03:28 TR Bot; Making the Most of the Micro (10): At the End of the Line - Invidious
03:28 matey; you "downloaded" it by recording the audio then playing it back over the cassette deck
03:29 matey; now that its on youtube, you can still decode the audio into the program
03:31 matey; you should be able to convert it with ffmpeg to audio, then use audacity to convert it from compressed audio to raw sound data
03:31 matey; then a program can decode it from there
03:31 matey; or if you have a program that converts data cassette audio to files, you could use that
03:32 matey; or you could probably find a copy of the program, but that takes some of the magic out of it
03:33 DaemonFC; Now, I could never go full Stallman.
03:34 DaemonFC; Odd things don't grow on my foot, and I certainly wouldn't eat them if they did.
03:34 matey; i think it was just a piece of skin
03:34 matey; and as gross as you or i find that, its a common compulsion that is co-morbid with ocd and asd.
03:35 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67KtxG_0DVo
03:35 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=67KtxG_0DVo
03:35 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Richard Stallman eats something from his foot- Average Joe Cringe Singles - Invidious
03:36 matey; dermatophagia and dermatillomania are both (relatively) common
03:36 matey; stallman probably isnt even the most famous sufferer
03:37 matey; but most people who have it either arent as famous, or they are socially aware enough to avoid getting caught doing it
03:37 matey; its too bad some dick decided to record it really
03:38 matey; they might as well have recorded him taking a shit and uploaded that
03:38 matey; like do you need to see stallman taking a shit?
03:38 matey; no, but i guarantee you he does it regularly.
03:38 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw
03:38 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw
03:38 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session - Invidious
03:38 matey; the shame in it!
03:38 DaemonFC; Stallman seems to be out of date.
03:38 matey; on some things yeah
03:39 DaemonFC; He says don't put copies of the video in Real or Quicktime or Flash.
03:39 matey; whats this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw
03:39 DaemonFC; None of those actually are a thing anymore.
03:39 matey; He says don't put copies of the video in Real or Quicktime or Flash. <- when was this
03:39 DaemonFC; Real and Quicktime switched to MPEG, which he covered already.
03:39 DaemonFC; Flash is dead.
03:39 matey; yes
03:39 DaemonFC; Windows Media hasn't been popular on the Web in over a decade.
03:40 DaemonFC; I've ran into a few of them, all very old files.
03:40 DaemonFC; I didn't make them. Transcoding makes the quality worse. WMV is supported via a reverse engineered ffmpeg codec.
03:40 DaemonFC; So available to VLC and Gstreamer.
03:40 matey; i mean this was uploaded Shared October 30, 2014
03:42 matey; however
03:42 matey; im not sure anyone around him keeps him very informed
03:42 matey; and its worth wondering if theyre letting him stumble
03:42 matey; if theres any opportunism going on
03:43 matey; there doesnt have to be-- its possible to imagine situtions where they would make a reasonable effort and still fail
03:43 matey; like if hes stubborn (not stallman!) and insists on making a point they swear doesnt need to be made
03:49 DaemonFC; Marketing is the worst idea anyone has ever had.
03:49 DaemonFC; They figured out how to triple the price of margarine. They call it "plant butter".
03:49 DaemonFC; They figured out how to sell people liquid hand soap for four times as much, called "body wash".
03:49 DaemonFC; I mean, big and small.
03:50 matey; marketing is bullshitting lots of people by the standards of the profession
03:50 matey; im still using a bottle of soap i bought in 2020
03:51 matey; and there are ALWAYS suds when i wash something
03:51 matey; im not using scented water
03:51 matey; im using soap
03:52 matey; in fact i was using more, only it was irritating my skin so i cut back a little
03:52 matey; now its lasting even longer
03:53 matey; granted i havent been using it since 2020
03:53 matey; ive been using it for at least half a year
03:53 matey; its going to last another half easy
03:53 matey; i bought it in 2020 because i was concerned about running out of the other bottle
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03:53 matey; which lasted another 6-12 months easy
03:54 matey; so i spent a few dollars on soap a year
03:56 matey; i do cheat a little. sometimes i get those wipes
03:56 matey; ill use them for cleaning the bathroom, or the kitchen floor
03:57 matey; ill use one to clean the counter
03:58 matey; but i dont buy those often
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 506.26
04:09 matey; They figured out how to triple the price of margarine. They call it "plant butter" <- they should just call it "a cheap death"
04:09 matey; margarine should have a warning label like cigarettes
04:14 matey; fucking tiny sculptures https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dJbzL3ezob4
04:14 TR Bot; Willard Wigan makes the smallest handmade sculpture in history - Invidious
04:19 matey; strong little robots https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FLFse2RcuRU
04:19 TR Bot; 6 Microrobots Move A Car 18,000 Times Their Weight - Invidious
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05:17 DaemonFC; I got approved fo $10 a month internet access.
05:22 DaemonFC; The tech support for Comcast is at home right now.
05:22 DaemonFC; Nice
05:23 DaemonFC; Their system actually says that and hangs up.
05:33 DaemonFC; Guess I'll just have to call tomorrow.
05:33 DaemonFC; My landlord weed whacked my Comcast line last year.
05:33 DaemonFC; Then I cancelled it because it was too expensive.
05:33 DaemonFC; Should have just let them fix it instead of limping by with T-Mobile's trash can.
05:38 DaemonFC; Essentials Plan
05:38 DaemonFC; Download speeds: up to 50 Mbps
05:38 DaemonFC; Upload speeds: up to 10 Mbps
05:38 DaemonFC; MinceR, I'd buy that for $10!
05:39 DaemonFC; Well, I was looking at the Internal Revenue Code.
05:40 DaemonFC; The ACP says that we're low income because of a weird tax situation we ended up in last year.
05:40 DaemonFC; So like, we just basically squeaked in, but the National Verify system said I was good when I showed it my tax return.
05:40 DaemonFC; Anyway, even if I only get this for a year, it'll save me about $500.
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 287.23
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06:15 DaemonFC; https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=24357&id=18732&id=12885
06:15 TR Bot; Compare Side-by-Side
06:15 DaemonFC; The fuel economy of my 96 Crown Victoria and 2003 Impala LS, and the Buick Lacrosse I want to buy.
06:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, I want something really big that goes real fast and gets really shitty gas mileage!
06:16 DaemonFC; The 6000 SUX. 8.6 MPG. An American Tradition.
06:20 DaemonFC; I wish I had bought that $500 1988 Buick Skylark from that old fuck that I used to live next door to when I was a kid.
06:21 DaemonFC; Old people pinch pennies and take really good care of their car and keep the mileage off it and then their kids go "I don't want this reliable car with no rust that I don't owe any money on." when their parents die.
06:21 DaemonFC; "It's dated!"
06:22 DaemonFC; "It doesn't have a tablet in the dashboard that won't even work 5 years from when you buy the car!".
06:22 DaemonFC; I thought we'd reached peak "Everything has a tablet no matter how stupid." with refrigerators.
06:33 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, April 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
06:33 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
06:34 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
06:34 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
06:35 schestowitz-TR; [06:22] <DaemonFC> I thought we'd reached peak "Everything has a tablet no matter how stupid." with refrigerators.
06:35 schestowitz-TR; no, wait
06:35 schestowitz-TR; they do even smaller appliances now
06:35 schestowitz-TR; so you can show off to yourself
06:35 schestowitz-TR; of course these things break down more often
06:35 schestowitz-TR; and each time it's harder and more expensive to repair
06:36 schestowitz-TR; those tablets won't last 30 years like your (grand)parents' fridge
06:37 TR News; "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw
06:37 TR Bot; Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session - Invidious
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06:41 schestowitz-TR; hi ashes
06:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, That's why I want the 2008 Buick. It is maybe one of the last decent cars you can still own.
06:43 DaemonFC; If you can find one in good shape and "Cuba" it, you may escape the "smart" cars for a long time/
06:43 TR News; Well, "by the end of 2022" this war will likely be over https://news.err.ee/1608557521/estonia-to-stop-importing-russian-gas-by-end-of-2022
06:43 TR Bot; Estonia to stop importing Russian gas by end of 2022 | Ukraine Latest | ERR
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06:44 TR News; Fake "meat" is about saving animals, not "the planet" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html
06:44 Alternative link; CloudFlare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html
06:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html )
06:44 TR News; Let's hope people will now realise it's time to stop contributing to Twitter ttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech/629479/
06:46 TR News; Facebook = Misinformation/Disinformation hub https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3261763-russian-backed-hackers-spreading-disinformation-on-facebook/ not just Russians
06:46 TR Bot; Russian-backed hackers spreading disinformation on Facebook | The Hill
06:46 schestowitz-TR; [06:43] <DaemonFC> schestowitz-TR, That's why I want the 2008 Buick. It is maybe one of the last decent cars you can still own.
06:46 schestowitz-TR; this is a fair point
06:46 schestowitz-TR; if it's 2008-made, then likely none of the "smart" crap
06:47 TR News; "A group of Muslims had filed a petition to the authorities accusing Bala of posting uncomplimentary messages about Islam on social media" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606
06:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606
06:47 TR Bot; atheist Mubarak Bala jailed for blaspheming Islam - BBC News
06:48 TR News; "If we want to honor his memory, more of us should commit to his unflinching attention to the role of the media in creating the mess were in today" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/
06:48 Alternative link; CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/
06:48 TR Bot; Eric Boehlert Got Everything Right About Our Petty, Self-Congratulating Media | The Nation
06:49 TR News; "Columnist Ender mrek faces charges of insulting the president" https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/
06:49 Alternative link; CloudFlare: turkishminute.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/
06:49 TR Bot; Columnist for left-wing daily indicted on Erdoan insult charges due to article on forest fires - Turkish Minute
06:50 TR News; Boycott SweatshopZAone https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/7/23015642/amazon-alu-union-victory-staten-island-objection-plan
06:50 TR Bot; Amazon plans to object to union victory in New York - The Verge
06:50 TR News; "The win is striking for a number of reasons, including that ALU is a scrappy effort unaligned with an established labor union." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html
06:50 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html
06:50 TR Bot; Amazon warehouse workers in New York made history voting for a union. Here's what could happen next - CNN
06:51 TR News; "The U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is giving Amazon until April 22 to back up its objections to last week's election in New York" https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazon-objects-unions-victory-staten-island-alleging-interference-2022-04-07/
06:51 TR Bot; objecting to union's victory in New York, alleging interference | Reuters
06:51 TR News; "Their win was instantly remarkable: the first Amazon union outside of Europe." https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon
06:51 Alternative link; CloudFlare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon
06:51 TR Bot; How to Unionize at Amazon | The New Yorker
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06:51 TR News; "In the end, the approach succeeded where far bigger, wealthier and more established unions have repeatedly fallen short" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html
06:51 Alternative link; CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html
06:51 TR Bot; Amazon Union Success May Point to a New Labor Playbook - The New York Times
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06:53 TR News; "... the exact same article ..." https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5 see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/windows-floundering/
06:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5
06:53 TR Bot; Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped?
06:53 TR Bot; 6 Months After Vista 11s Official Release the Market Share of Windows Falls to 28% (All-Time Low) | Techrights
06:53 TR News; Dilbert Invents Energy Source - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-04-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-04-07"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
06:53 TR Bot; Invents Energy Source - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-04-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
06:54 TR News; European Pirates Newsletter http://urlpir.at/Newsletter032022
06:54 TR Bot; European Pirates Newsletter
06:54 TR News; Amazon, Gulag Busted Faking Small Business Opposition to Antitrust Reform - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/04/06/0344244 Source: soylentnews
06:54 TR Bot; Amazon, Google Busted Faking Small Business Opposition to Antitrust Reform - SoylentNews
06:55 TR News; Moodle is a great success for Free software https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html businessnewsaustralia blocked by javascript
06:55 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html )
06:55 Alternative link; CloudFlare: businessnewsaustralia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html
06:57 TR News; Microsoft Windows https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/actions-target-russian-govt-botnet-hydra-dark-market/
06:57 TR Bot; Actions Target Russian Govt. Botnet, Hydra Dark Market Krebs on Security
06:58 TR News; "The Hill" has just issued Microsoft propaganda which wants you to think Microsoft "disrupts" Russia cyberattacks in Ukraine; Microsoft itself is the attacker. Those attacks are happening BECAUSE of Microsoft.
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 507.11
07:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Faster to write a check to yourself and mobile deposit it to your other bank than do ACH. :/
07:00 DaemonFC; Says $5,000 can be transferred in 1 day using a check and then doing mobile deposit.
07:00 DaemonFC; The car doesn't cost much more than that.
07:01 TR News; Theft by oligarchs https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
07:01 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare
07:01 TR Bot; In Jab at Manchin, Sanders Demands 'Strategic Pause' in Corporate Welfare
07:01 DaemonFC; I'm going to ask the guy to meet me at my bank and I'll have them write him a counter check off of my account. I don't want to walk around Chicago with car money.
07:01 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
07:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I joked earlier that the money depreciates faster than the cars you can buy with it now.
07:02 schestowitz-TR; no
07:02 schestowitz-TR; cars lose value fast and you will need repair
07:02 DaemonFC; Even if I just bought this car and drove it around for a while, there's a good chance that in the next year or two, I could sell it for more than I bought it for even though I drove it around a couple years.
07:02 schestowitz-TR; if sold cheaply, be suspicious
07:02 schestowitz-TR; maybe something already comes apart
07:03 DaemonFC; I got the service history.
07:04 DaemonFC; It said they replaced a front stabilizer bar as well as one lower control arm and a lateral arm last year.
07:04 DaemonFC; They might have hit a pothole or something.
07:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I doubt that the car is in terrible shape at 55,000 miles.
07:06 DaemonFC; They put less than 4,000 miles per year on it.
07:06 schestowitz-TR; maybe desperate for cash
07:06 DaemonFC; In fact, that's why the fair price is relatively higher than others in the area.
07:06 schestowitz-TR; sold cheaply fast
07:06 schestowitz-TR; like the home we live in
07:06 schestowitz-TR; you can hope that's the reason
07:06 schestowitz-TR; and maybe you'll be lucky
07:06 DaemonFC; The blue book says $1,350 is added to the value for being below average miles.
07:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Yeah, Shaq (my mechanic) says there's nothing wrong with it and that the guy just doesn't get out anymore.
07:08 TR News; "Tor Browser 11.0.10 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-11010/
07:08 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.10 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
07:08 DaemonFC; He says it sat in the garage throughout COVID and then the guy put new tires on it and did some odds and ends and then now he decides he doesn't even drive much anymore and wants money.
07:08 schestowitz-TR; sounds plausible
07:08 DaemonFC; He said, "But the guy wants you to know that $7,500 is the price of the car. He won't take less.".
07:08 schestowitz-TR; given it was not driven much before either
07:09 DaemonFC; I told him I wasn't going to beat the guy up over the price if the car is indeed in good condition.
07:09 DaemonFC; Now if I got there and he wants $7,500 and it's going to need work right away I might start trying to trim some off of the price to make repairs.
07:10 schestowitz-TR; if you end up living inside the car again, that'll be a good investment LOL
07:10 DaemonFC; That hasn't happened lately.
07:10 schestowitz-TR; and mandy can piss off his sister
07:10 DaemonFC; I was 18 when I lived in my car last time.
07:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The joke's on MARISOL.
07:10 DaemonFC; I paid cash and got a car that's better than her stupid BMW that breaks all the time.
07:10 DaemonFC; $1,000 wheel bearing hubs.
07:11 TR News; Surveillance https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/catalog-carceral-surveillance-tablet-advertising-can-also-issue-discipline
07:11 TR Bot; The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: Tablet Advertising That Can Also Issue Discipline | Electronic Frontier Foundation
07:11 TR News; "The report reveals a troubling trend among Paraguayan internet and telecommunications providers: most dont publish reports with statistical data on such requests" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/brighter-stars-and-persistent-gaps-mark-new-paraguays-who-defends-your-data-report
07:11 TR Bot; Brighter Stars and Persistent Gaps Mark New Paraguays Who Defends Your Data Report | Electronic Frontier Foundation
07:11 DaemonFC; When I was laughing about that she got mad and said they were always nice to her there and they had gourmet coffee.
07:12 DaemonFC; I told Mandy "I hope they have gourmet coffee with $1,000 wheel hub bearings and tires that are $350 each. I hope they kissed her first.".
07:12 TR News; "Welcome to the April edition of the monthly Fortran newsletter." https://fortran-lang.org/newsletter/2022/04/07/Fortran-Newsletter-April-2022/
07:12 TR Bot; Fortran newsletter: April 2022 - Fortran Programming Language
07:12 DaemonFC; BMW is just weird, schestowitz-TR
07:13 DaemonFC; Every other dealer, you can talk them down if you want a extended warranty.
07:13 DaemonFC; BMWs are "the price in the computer". Not negotiable.
07:13 DaemonFC; And if you don't buy one you're on the hook for serious repair costs, most likely.
07:15 DaemonFC; https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/heres-who-will-be-eligible-for-direct-inflation-relief-payments-from-the-state-of-illinois/2801941/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CHBrand
07:15 TR Bot; Heres Who Will be Eligible for Direct Inflation Relief Payments From the State of Illinois NBC Chicago
07:15 DaemonFC; The state is doing a stimulus bill now.
07:15 DaemonFC; $50 per taxpayer. Woohoo.
07:15 TR News; "Dafydd began his career supporting cultural heritage organizations to digitize their collections and publish them online. He also led the formation of the National Library of Waless (NLW) policy on open access and its successful collaboration with Wikimedia." https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/
07:15 Alternative link; CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/
07:15 TR Bot; Episode 19: Open Culture VOICES Dafydd Tudur - Creative Commons
07:15 DaemonFC; We get $100. That'll fill your gas tank for like a month I guess.
07:15 DaemonFC; Ugh, it's getting late. Better go to bed.
07:16 DaemonFC; Have to call comcrap tomorrow.
07:16 TR News; "Marco has been working with museums, archives and libraries across Europe for two decades to support them in their digital transformation, advocate open access, gain extensive experience in the design and implementation of digital libraries, and promote innovation in the cultural heritage sector in Europe." https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/
07:16 Alternative link; CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/
07:16 TR Bot; Episode 20: Open Culture VOICES Marco Rendina - Creative Commons
07:16 DaemonFC; Get a tech out here to fix their mangled line so I can go back to having slightly less craptacular internet.
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07:20 TR News; "We will continue to hold Amazon accountable and ensure workers' voices are heard." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election
07:20 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election
07:20 TR Bot; Labor Group Files Objections to Amazon's Conduct During Alabama Union Election
07:21 TR News; Boycott Starbucks "https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/union-once-again-cleans-starbucks-clock-worker-wins-against-coffee-giant-continue
07:21 TR Bot; 'The Union Once Again Cleans Starbucks' Clock': Worker Wins Against Coffee Giant Continue
07:22 TR News; "Despite a massive amount of spending and tactical maneuvering to derail the effort, Amazon factory workers just successfully voted to form the companys first union on Staten..." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/
07:22 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/
07:22 TR Bot; Amazon Employee Chat App Bans Terms Like Grievance and Living Wage | Techdirt
07:23 TR News; Again techdirt says "Big Tech" and helps shift attention away from Microsoft's criminals https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/
07:23 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/
↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/
07:23 TR Bot; Sands In The Tech Sector | Techdirt
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07:28 TR News; Painting Dissent as Mentally Ill https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/
07:28 Alternative link; CloudFlare: mintpressnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/
07:28 TR Bot; Liberals Are Adopting an Old Soviet Tactic: Painting Dissent as Mentally Ill
07:34 TR News; Code Pinks Panel on Media Censorship of Voices for Peace Featuring Abby Martin, Lee Camp and Chris Hedges - The Project Censored Show https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/
07:34 Alternative link; CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/
07:34 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ )
07:35 TR News; In the name of 'protecting' you, GulagTube purges lots of pro-peace videos, or anti-war material
07:38 TR News; Open Source Robotic Lawn Mower https://hackaday.com/2022/04/07/openmower-open-source-robotic-lawn-mower-with-rtk-gps/
07:38 TR Bot; Open Source Robotic Lawn Mower With RTK GPS | Hackaday
07:38 TR News; Arduino https://hackaday.com/2022/04/07/stress-testing-an-arduinos-eeprom/
07:38 TR Bot; An Arduinos EEPROM | Hackaday
07:40 TR News; US capitalism looking more like organised crime at this point https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/ also see Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
07:40 Alternative link; CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/
07:40 TR Bot; Sanders: US Shouldn't Give Bezos a "$10 Billion Bailout" for His "Space Hobby"
07:40 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
07:42 TR News; "Critics refer to this bill as the Facebook Law because it targets online content on social media sites including but not limited to Facebook" https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/
07:42 Alternative link; CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/
07:42 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ )
07:44 TR News; Unions https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says
07:44 Alternative link; CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says
07:44 TR Bot; Union Filings Have Increased 57 Percent in the Last Six Months, Labor Board Says
07:45 TR News; illegal https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/
07:45 Alternative link; CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/
07:45 TR Bot; Labor Boards Top Counsel Argues Anti-Union Meetings Are Inherently Illegal
07:47 TR News; EARN IT Act https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/
07:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/
07:47 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ )
07:49 TR News; Internet Used https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/
07:49 Alternative link; CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/
07:49 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ )
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07:52 TR News; Gulag and DMCA https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/
↺ https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/
07:52 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/
07:52 TR Bot; vs Fake DMCA Notices: Google Refuses to Hand Over User Data * TorrentFreak
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07:53 TR News; "1337x.to, one of the world's most-visited torrent sites, has become unreachable over the past few days. The site's DNS records have been wiped" https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/
07:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/
07:53 TR Bot; is Unreachable After Domain Name Expired (Updated) * TorrentFreak
07:53 TR News; SBCs with GNU/Linux https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/
07:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/
07:53 TR Bot; Three new reasons to register for Coolest Projects Global 2022 - Raspberry Pi
07:53 SomeH4x0r; could use /etc/hosts. Any tools to make such stuff automated?
07:54 SomeH4x0r; At least copying the IP addresses for all doains resolved to some file
07:54 SomeH4x0r; *domains
07:55 schestowitz-TR; most people would not do this
07:55 TR News; Trademark extremism https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/lauren-boebert-threatens-disneys-mickey-mouse-trademark-extension-which-isnt-a-thing/
07:55 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/
07:55 TR Bot; Magazine Sues Showtime Networks Over UFO Series For Trademark Infringement | Techdirt
07:55 TR Bot; Boebert Threatens Disneys Mickey Mouse Trademark Extension, Which Isnt A Thing | Techdirt
07:57 TR News; Gulag being a gulag https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip
07:57 Alternative link; CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip
07:57 TR Bot; Google's Radar Chip: Real-Time Biometric Data Collection
07:58 TR News; Making music becoming illegal? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/
07:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/
07:58 TR Bot; Sheeran Gets It: As He Wins His Copyright Lawsuit, He Decries Culture Of Bogus Copyright Suits | Techdirt
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.08
07:59 TR News; Why does techdirt help promote this lie that FB does encryption???? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights
07:59 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights
07:59 TR Bot; Responsibility Organization Says Metas Embrace Of Encryption Is Important For Human Rights | Techdirt
08:01 TR News; US: slow connections, crazy pricing https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/
08:01 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/
08:01 TR Bot; Demands $19,000 For Broadband In Yet Another Consumer Nightmare | Techdirt
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08:07 TR News; Wccftech, by virtue of being megaphone of Phoronix, is now AMD marketing, and as AMD is a Microsoft booster, Wccftech follows with Michael's Microsoft boosting. Phoronix has no credibility left. Marketing site.
08:08 TR News; Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distros To Try 2022 (Developers/Laptops) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163487
08:08 TR Bot; Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distros To Try 2022 (Developers/Laptops) | Tux Machines
08:13 TR News; EasyOS 3.4.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163488
08:13 TR Bot; EasyOS 3.4.5 | Tux Machines
08:20 TR News; Mozilla Localization (L10N): L10n Report: April 2022 Edition https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/
08:20 Alternative link; CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/
08:20 TR Bot; L10n Report: April 2022 Edition | Mozilla L10N
08:20 TR News; Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489
08:20 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines
08:21 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163490
08:21 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:21 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Arnold Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163491
08:21 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Arnold | Tux Machines
08:21 TR News; Open Hardware: SBCs, Arduino, and OpenMower Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163492
08:21 TR Bot; Open Hardware: SBCs, Arduino, and OpenMower | Tux Machines
08:25 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D196.jpg
08:25 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D554.jpg
08:26 TR News; Re: The Theological Problem Behind Firefox in Ubuntu 22.04 gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220407-re-ploum.gmi
08:28 TR News; Re: Rat in the Engine gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220407.gmi
08:28 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163493
08:28 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:29 TR News; "'3 Man Chess: In The Round' was once created by Clif W. King, the board set used to be US-patented but the patent expired." gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-07-3mc.gmi
08:31 TR News; "It is probably not an uncommon thing, nor am I the first. However, I might surprise myself that I am working this way now. My environment for spending free time in Geminispace and Gophersphere is text-only environment. Which I've set up from nothing, and without any special experience." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-07-Text-only-user-interface-environment.gmi
08:33 TR News; "I have no idea how I ended up here. Switched from Windows to Linux yesterday and had no idea what the Gemini protocol was." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/880
08:34 TR News; "I love the Matrix protocol, but it seems every desktop client for it sucks in some way. Clients like Element are the most feature-rich by far, but are webapps running on Electron." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/877
08:36 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, April 07, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/irc-log-070422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/irc-log-070422/
08:36 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, April 07, 2022 | Techrights
08:54 TR News; Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/
08:54 TR Bot; Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights
08:55 TR News; Mozilla Localization and or Tor Browser 11.0.10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163494
08:55 TR Bot; Mozilla Localization and or Tor Browser 11.0.10 | Tux Machines
08:55 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163495
08:55 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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09:52 TR News; FreeBSD 13.1-RC2 Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163496
09:52 TR Bot; FreeBSD 13.1-RC2 Now Available | Tux Machines
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12:11 alextee; is there any way to join this channel via matrix?
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12:17 XRevan86; alextee: no
12:17 TR News; d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/
12:18 alextee; XRevan86, I see, thanks
12:18 TR News; d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/
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12:20 TR News; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Gemini address: IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC!
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12:22 TR News; d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/
12:22 schestowitz; he Temptation to Promote Paid Narratives and Product Marketing (Fake Endorsements) in Geminispace Will Grow and Its a Risk to Geminis Reputation or Selling Point http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/the-temptation-to-promote-paid-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/
12:22 TR Bot; The Temptation to Promote Paid Narratives and Product Marketing (Fake Endorsements) in Geminispace Will Grow and Its a Risk to Geminis Reputation or Selling Point | Techrights
12:22 schestowitz; I see what the issue is
12:22 schestowitz; I forget to set a post slug ^_^
12:23 XRevan86; https://opensource.org/blog/modified-agplv3-removes-freedoms-adds-legal-headaches Apparently they actually did take the Commons Clause licensed version of the code and then removed the CC.
12:23 TR Bot; Modified AGPLv3 removes freedoms, adds legal headaches | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...
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12:41 schestowitz; imagine OSI also doing a blog post about the threats of GitHub
12:41 schestowitz; oh, wait
12:41 schestowitz; they can't
12:41 schestowitz; Microsoft and 'GitHub' BOTh bribe OSI
12:41 schestowitz; So OSI promotes the attacker
12:43 TR News; "Around 20 years ago I was early enough in my career that I still harbored the illusion that there was any way to hold back the insanity of people. My frustrations were mounting and I found solace in reading things from similarly beset individuals." gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/26.gmi
12:44 TR News; "Last Saturday I finally had some free time, so I started on another item from my to-do list: setting up my own capsule. The official motivations are to get back in practice as a sysadmin (it's been a while since I've had my own server." gemini://leafstorm.smol.pub/2022-04-07-capsule-under-construction
12:45 TR News; "So I found myself going on a small weekend trip, and at the last moment, I decided that instead of taking my normal, powerful, full-featured 10-year-old laptop, I would take my smol, underpowered 10-year-old laptop. This amounts to a choice limit my computing activity to writing, email, and Gemini/Gopher over the weekend." gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220407-imp-of-the-perverse.gmi
12:45 TR News; "There are 2313 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1846 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
12:48 matey; if the threats of github are a minority opinion even among gnu developers, it wouldnt take a bribe for osi to promote github
12:50 matey; im aware that osi is bribed of course, and that microsoft runs the show
12:50 matey; but github is the sort of thing osi would promote anyway
12:51 matey; nitpicking licenses (a good idea wrt to commons clause) on the other hand, is also the sort of thing osi has always been about
12:51 schestowitz-TR; right, exactly
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12:51 schestowitz-TR; but we need to keep reminding people what osi is
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12:51 schestowitz-TR; who it fronts for
12:51 schestowitz-TR; what it is for
12:51 matey; oh sure
12:52 schestowitz-TR; because it pains them
12:52 schestowitz-TR; that's why they try to undermine us
12:52 matey; i mean i consider osi an enemy to users
12:52 schestowitz-TR; and stefono stopped talking to me
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12:52 schestowitz-TR; he was losing the argument
12:52 matey; what was the argument about
12:54 TR News; Sorry Arch, its not working out any more and hello Fedora Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163497
12:54 TR Bot; Sorry Arch, it's not working out any more and hello Fedora | Tux Machines
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12:55 TR News; Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163498
12:55 TR Bot; Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC | Tux Machines
12:56 schestowitz-TR; matey: I posted it in techrights in dec-jan 2021-22
12:56 schestowitz-TR; look under "OSI" category
12:56 schestowitz-TR; he's unable to accept github is bad
12:56 schestowitz-TR; but he did admit their partnership
12:56 schestowitz-TR; in fact he inadvertently gave me some pointers
12:57 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/
12:57 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights
12:57 schestowitz; that's the million-dollar (screen)shot
12:58 matey; good thing you posted the url
12:58 matey; you narrowed it down to about 6 posts, that one wasnt the one i guessed
12:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/osi-money.pdf
12:58 schestowitz; local copyu
12:58 matey; my guess was "Summary: Good luck explaining to the OSIs Executive Director that Microsoft is a liability, not an ally "
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 330.10
13:00 matey; ummary: Stefano Maffulli told me (hours ago), citing Josh (who had prepared the above filing), that clearlydefined has a budget of roughly $250k. (See page 10 of this latest IRS filing [PDF] near the bottom)
13:00 matey; money laundering :)
13:00 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-as-corporate-stooge/
13:00 TR Bot; [Meme] OSI Has Choked Itself to Death (by Surrendering to Its Worst Enemy) | Techrights
13:01 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/02/07/osi-no-show/
13:01 TR Bot; Analysis of OSIs No Show at FOSDEM 2021 | Techrights
13:01 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/category/osi/
13:01 TR Bot; OSI | Techrights
13:01 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/24/debunking-deb/
13:01 TR Bot; OINs Deb Nicholson: We Dont Solve Any Real Issues, Just Like OSI (Where Nicholson is Now Interim General Manager) | Techrights
13:01 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-repurposed/
13:01 TR Bot; [Meme] OSI is Doing Just Fine | Techrights
13:01 schestowitz; i am actually trying to find an animated gift
13:01 schestowitz; of stefano and money
13:01 matey; osi is a dumpster fire
13:01 schestowitz; where I show his salary
13:02 schestowitz; and basically rest my case
13:02 schestowitz; he gets like half a million bucks to pretend microsoft is OK
13:02 schestowitz; we have m,any sellouts liek these around
13:02 schestowitz; fossforce is now shilling LF
13:02 schestowitz; because LF paid it!!!
13:02 schestowitz; but fossforce in the past blasted LF
13:02 schestowitz; what has changed? MONEY.
13:02 matey; fossfarce had no integrity anyway, theyre liars
13:02 schestowitz; LF did NOT improve its behaviour
13:03 matey; bilefield published lies, christine signed the letter
13:03 schestowitz; Oh, I found it
13:03 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-salary/
13:03 matey; if a tree fell on both it would be no tragedy
13:03 schestowitz; video
13:03 TR Bot; It is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something, When His Salary Depends on His Not Understanding It (Upton Sinclair) | Techrights
13:03 schestowitz; short
13:03 schestowitz; banderas is argentino?
13:04 matey; who?
13:04 schestowitz; see the animated gif
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13:04 matey; the actor?
13:04 schestowitz; oh
13:04 schestowitz; you saw it already, I think
13:05 matey; most of the tr reading i did this year was in a text editor
13:05 matey; even when i load it in a browser theres typically no graphics
13:05 schestowitz-TR; we try to make it text-friendly
13:05 matey; obviously i miss out on gifs and things like that
13:05 schestowitz-TR; like, you'd not miss anything crucial in gemini with alt text
13:05 matey; video too
13:05 schestowitz-TR; of the text quotes/explains what images show
13:06 matey; anyway antonio banderas is actually from spain
13:07 matey; i would have assumed mexico
13:07 matey; i dont know any other banderas
13:07 schestowitz-TR; argentina has many italians and germans in it
13:07 schestowitz-TR; you can get that from surnames too
13:08 matey; andalusia, spain in particular
13:08 schestowitz-TR; but argentina was a bit of a failed experiment for european escapees
13:08 schestowitz-TR; many times in history they had crises
13:08 schestowitz-TR; carlo piana also entered osi
13:08 schestowitz-TR; but italo left
13:08 schestowitz-TR; one italian out
13:08 schestowitz-TR; 2 in
13:08 schestowitz-TR; one as E.D>
13:09 schestowitz-TR; italo was leading the anti-RMS battle in libreoffice and in OSI
13:09 schestowitz-TR; from the boards (OSI and TDF)
13:09 matey; thats a shame
13:09 matey; ive stopped running libreoffice
13:09 schestowitz-TR; italo has been around for ages, but he often joins these silly "social" causes
13:09 matey; i never installed it in openbsd and i just dont care about it anymore
13:09 schestowitz-TR; weeks ago he wrote a hostile message to russia
13:09 schestowitz-TR; in effect not blaming putin
13:09 matey; if i actually get an odt i unzip it
13:09 schestowitz-TR; but extending guilt to russians
13:09 schestowitz-TR; which I think is counter-productive
13:10 matey; sure because wars are put to a vote
13:10 schestowitz-TR; many russians did a lot for openoffice.org and LO
13:10 schestowitz-TR; also for ODF
13:10 schestowitz-TR; many signers of the anti-OOXML petition were Russians
13:10 matey; i mean the document foundation also signed
13:10 schestowitz-TR; italo
13:10 schestowitz-TR; probabluy
13:10 matey; but you say italo was leading it
13:10 schestowitz-TR; meeks was on the fence, at least at first
13:11 schestowitz-TR; you can see italo at microsoft
13:11 schestowitz-TR; in that photo op from simon flips
13:11 matey; i think long term libreoffice is just going to get sucked into collabora/gnome
13:11 schestowitz-TR; italo is not principled
13:11 schestowitz-TR; then again rms went to microsoft
13:11 matey; so politically, free software wise too, i dont think it has a sunny futur
13:12 schestowitz-TR; throught he'd lecture them LOL!!
13:12 schestowitz-TR; 2 weeks later they LECTURED HIM
13:12 schestowitz-TR; called him pedo in the medioa
13:12 matey; rms has never understood the threat microsoft poses.
13:12 schestowitz-TR; because gates was making headlines after using epstein as a mule at MIT
13:12 matey; never. hes always downplayed it
13:12 matey; the position of the fsf seems to be: if you slap gpl on something its a good thing
13:12 matey; no matter where it comes from
13:13 schestowitz-TR; or if it's forced
13:13 schestowitz-TR; elike microsoft kernle patches (gplv2)
13:13 matey; this will never stop biting them in the arse. its the "all you need is a firewall" fallacy
13:13 matey; of course its a bit of a strawman, i dont deny it
13:13 matey; but only a little. mostly, its true imo
13:13 matey; true enough to be damning
13:14 matey; rms wrote an article on microsoft for the fsf
13:14 matey; where he downplays the threat they pose-- im sure youve seen it
13:14 matey; its been revised over the years, because it has to be
13:15 matey; the entire premise is flawed
13:16 matey; users have always seen microsoft as a threat, better than the fsf
13:16 matey; the fsf wants literally every ally it can get-- if they can just get microsoft to play along, theyll have them too
13:16 matey; thats why rms went there
13:18 matey; he should have stayed home and read the scorpion and the frog instead
13:18 schestowitz-TR; maybe he responds to the PR campaign
13:18 schestowitz-TR; which says
13:18 schestowitz-TR; "its irrational hatred"
13:18 schestowitz-TR; "don'\t write M$"
13:18 schestowitz-TR; in fact, if you don't call them by their official name, you are a crank
13:20 matey; id rather be a crank and be right
13:20 schestowitz-TR; yeah
13:20 matey; than be rms and let microsoft destroy free software entirely
13:20 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it's opp.
13:20 schestowitz-TR; if you are right they call you crank
13:20 schestowitz-TR; or if they call you crank, you might be just right
13:20 schestowitz-TR; and they cannot confront the message
13:20 schestowitz-TR; so it's down to name-calling
13:21 schestowitz-TR; but not all cranks are right
13:21 matey; no, cranks have a tendency of being wildly wrong
13:21 matey; hence cranks
13:21 schestowitz-TR; I forgot the discrete maths term for it
13:21 schestowitz-TR; there are three directional/bidirectional possibilities
13:21 schestowitz-TR; CS 101
13:22 schestowitz-TR; trans-something
13:22 schestowitz-TR; or inter
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13:22 matey; duplex, half duplex and simplex?
13:22 matey; transmission modes
13:23 schestowitz-TR; ah
13:23 schestowitz-TR; transivity I think
13:23 schestowitz-TR; from memory
13:24 schestowitz-TR; I was 18 when they taught us that
13:24 schestowitz-TR; discrete maths
13:25 matey; if A is related to B and B is related to C, then A is related to C
13:25 schestowitz-TR; our lecturer on this was graham gough
13:25 matey; What is transitivity According to Piaget? Transitivity: Being able to understand how objects are related to one another is referred to as transitivity or transitive inference. This means that if one understands that a dog is a mammal and that a boxer is a dog, then a boxer must be a mammal.
13:25 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if he is still alive
13:25 schestowitz-TR; he'd have to be like 80 by now
13:26 matey; there was an actor by the same name (same spelling) on law and order
13:26 schestowitz-TR; very common name
13:26 schestowitz-TR; I always remember he missed a finger
13:26 schestowitz-TR; he would point to the screen
13:26 schestowitz-TR; and show us how to do things
13:26 schestowitz-TR; CRTs
13:27 matey; https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zjYn4EUAAAAJ School of Computer Science, University of Manchester - Cited by 702 - Logic - Formal Methods - Verification
13:27 TR Bot; Graham Gough - Google Scholar
13:27 schestowitz-TR; John Latham was the main gnu/linux proponent back then
13:27 matey; this guys in ireland
13:27 schestowitz-TR; he'd wear hippies shirts
13:27 matey; Graham's professionalism is outstanding, I cannot recommend him highly enough.". 35 year old, Co. Meath. Contact Graham Gough Bio Energy Therapy on 086 865 0339. Contact.
13:28 matey; /me giggles
13:28 matey; surely not the same one
13:31 TR News; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
13:31 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
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13:32 TR News; ICBM: take up MORE loans (debt) to pay us to reduce your technical debt https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/reduce-technical-debt
13:32 TR Bot; 9 reasons you have technical debt and how to reduce it | The Enterprisers Project
13:33 bnchs; which one is it
13:33 bnchs; financial debt vs technical debgt
13:33 bnchs; pick one
13:36 TR News; "Extend aquacomputer_d5next driver to expose hardware temperature sensors and fans of the Aquacomputer Octo fan controller, which communicates through a proprietary USB HID protocol." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git/commit/?h=hwmon-next&id=a5af7ccaf51299819dd0e5b1347d6f4d00752701
13:36 TR Bot; kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git - hwmon staging tree
13:37 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: IBM does loans
13:37 schestowitz-TR; it's like a bank
13:37 schestowitz-TR; want a mainframe?
13:37 schestowitz-TR; we can do installments
13:37 schestowitz-TR; like car agencies
13:37 bnchs; how powerful are IBM mainframes
13:37 matey; they suck up lots of power
13:38 bnchs; "IBM initially sold its computers without any software, expecting customers to write their own; programs were manually initiated, one at a time"
13:38 bnchs; do you see OEMs doing this now?
13:38 bnchs; selling computers with NO operating system
13:38 bnchs; and expecting the customers to install it themselves
13:38 TR News; Apple is for fools who disregard human rights and think it's "hip" to join the oppressors https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/airtags-are-used-for-stalking-far-more-than-previously-reported.html https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vj3y/apple-airtags-police-reports-stalking-harassment
13:38 TR Bot; Are Used for Stalking Far More than Previously Reported - Schneier on Security
13:38 TR Bot; Police Records Show Women Are Being Stalked With Apple AirTags Across the Country
13:38 matey; to be fair, its extremely difficult to write software until you have a computer
13:38 TR News; OpenSSH 9.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163499
13:38 TR Bot; OpenSSH 9.0 | Tux Machines
13:39 TR News; Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/rms-steve-jobs-2013/
13:39 TR Bot; Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things | Techrights
13:39 matey; and ibm predates the era where selling software became a thing
13:40 bnchs; you don't find OEMs selling laptops with no operating system or FreeDOS on it
13:40 TR News; Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=PJu9UkokzkY Source: Video | Google | YouTube
13:40 TR Bot; Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious
13:40 bnchs; it's just windows nowadays
13:40 schestowitz-TR; just bribes
13:40 schestowitz-TR; [13:37] <matey> they suck up lots of power
13:40 schestowitz-TR; hence the name
13:40 schestowitz-TR; POWER(R)
13:41 bnchs; also wtf is this invidious instance
13:41 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: anime-focused, I think
13:41 bnchs; i can tell
13:41 schestowitz-TR; I tries many instances
13:41 schestowitz-TR; i try to send a bit of traffic to all of them
13:41 schestowitz-TR; if nobody uses them, they will die
13:41 bnchs; well thats good
13:42 schestowitz-TR; second-biggest seems to be in finland
13:42 schestowitz-TR; that finnish site you and I tested with this yeart
13:42 schestowitz-TR; for the bot
13:42 schestowitz-TR; heck, you could writ eadditional code
13:42 schestowitz-TR; to take a set of instances
13:42 schestowitz-TR; and randonmise them
13:42 schestowitz-TR; or give two urls
13:42 bnchs; yeah thats what i was gonna say
13:42 schestowitz-TR; in case one instance is cown
13:42 bnchs; randomizing instances
13:42 schestowitz-TR; it's in git
13:43 schestowitz-TR; wanna "extend" it?
13:43 schestowitz-TR; i have a feeling guilag lawyers will bully the dutch yewtu.be instance soon
13:43 schestowitz-TR; probably on grounds of trademark
13:43 schestowitz-TR; to hide their real motivation
13:43 schestowitz-TR; and try to takeover dns
13:43 bnchs; https://api.invidious.io/instances.json?pretty=1&sort_by=type,users
13:44 schestowitz-TR; like ICBM did to WeMakeFedora
13:44 bnchs; the invidious has a instances api
13:44 bnchs; where it returns instances in JSON
13:44 schestowitz-TR; invidious also makes it simple to download videos
13:44 schestowitz-TR; you could never retrive the title from it
13:44 schestowitz-TR; but the other bots, like TechrightsBot-tr, make up for it
13:45 schestowitz-TR; by expanding the url and getting page <title>
13:45 TR News; "Most know that using Git's push --force command is strongly discouraged and is considered destructive." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-push ONLY IBM can FORCE and have SLAVES
13:45 TR Bot; guide to using the Git push command safely | Opensource.com
13:46 bnchs; i'm gonna try scraping all the instance URLs with a shell script
13:46 TR News; ICBM FORCED the FSF to remove RMS... or RISK losing money. That's ICBlackMail., Sorry, I mean denymail.
13:47 SomeH4x0r; the fact FSF is money-driven is enough itself
13:47 schestowitz-TR; yes
13:47 schestowitz-TR; it's problematic
13:47 SomeH4x0r; they abandon whatever they are fighting for initially, and just create an illusion they continue to do it
13:47 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> not good to society
13:47 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> the FSF has had VASTLY worse patrons
13:47 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> sspeaking of which, a colleague used the company's "social" media
13:47 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> account to link to some libel about RMS
13:47 schestowitz-TR; ^ from another channel, hours ago ^
13:48 SomeH4x0r; but they no longer care
13:48 schestowitz-TR; they need staff
13:48 schestowitz-TR; the staff wants money
13:48 schestowitz-TR; money comes from... wait
13:48 schestowitz-TR; LF took it too far
13:48 schestowitz-TR; to the point of taking multi-million bribes
13:48 bnchs; wait techrights.org is HTTP-only
13:48 bnchs; am i getting MITM'd again?
13:48 schestowitz-TR; from companies like ZuckerBook and MicroSloth
13:49 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> not good to society
13:49 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> the FSF has had VASTLY worse patrons
13:49 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> sspeaking of which, a colleague used the company's "social" media
13:49 schestowitz-TR; [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> account to link to some libel about RMS
13:49 schestowitz-TR; oops
13:49 schestowitz-TR; sorry, wrong paste
13:49 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org is HTTP-only
13:49 schestowitz-TR; in a sense
13:49 schestowitz-TR; we never advertise https
13:49 schestowitz-TR; but some people use shitty browser
13:49 schestowitz-TR; that vainly assume ALL sites are HTTPS
13:49 schestowitz-TR; even when they are NOT
13:50 schestowitz-TR; so we added HTTPS with self-signed cert
13:50 schestowitz-TR; but we never advertise those addresses
13:50 bnchs; but here it's HTTP only
13:50 bnchs; there's no self-signed cert
13:50 schestowitz-TR; because GulagWeb (the monopoly, Mozille+Gulag) hates anything that's not outsourced to AMERICA(TM)
13:51 schestowitz-TR; Our cert is good until May 23 2022
13:52 schestowitz-TR; in fact, i've just put it in my fake 'diary' (todo.txt)
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13:52 SomeH4x0r; self-signed is the proper way to do it
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13:52 schestowitz-TR; TOF
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13:53 schestowitz-TR; I can, on May 22, advertise the next fingehrprint
13:53 schestowitz-TR; for the upcoming cert
13:53 schestowitz-TR; but...
13:53 schestowitz-TR; we don't recommend https
13:53 schestowitz-TR; because browsers would then shout and panic
13:53 schestowitz-TR; and confuse people
13:54 schestowitz-TR; "NOT TRUSTED!! TAKE ME OUT OF HERE! NOT CONTROLLED BY BIDEN AND TRUMP!!"
13:56 bnchs; maybe the SHA-256 fingerprint
13:56 bnchs; like in firefox
13:56 bnchs; "SHA-256: 75:EB:DE:EC:A3:9D:FC:A2:90:67:2F:7A:EF:F7:58:16:D9:2E:09:90:4D:7F:35:69:7D:8A:17:98:7C:90:B6:5B"
13:56 bnchs; much shorter
13:56 bnchs; than whatever that modulus thing you pasted
13:57 schestowitz-TR; I support I could rotate it now
13:57 schestowitz-TR; a month early
13:57 schestowitz-TR; any negative consequences?
13:58 schestowitz-TR; it's not like I PAY or ask Zemlin for PERMISSION to make a new bunch of bytes
13:58 bnchs; openssl command too: openssl x509 -in cert.pem -noout -sha256 -fingerprint
13:58 bnchs; well there's no negative consequences, as nothing depends on techrights.org
13:58 schestowitz-TR; irc has it own cert
13:59 bnchs; let's encrypt?
13:59 schestowitz-TR; some irc clients do not accept non-CA stuff
13:59 schestowitz-TR; stupid, I know...
14:00 schestowitz; LE they say is easy
14:00 schestowitz; it is now
14:00 schestowitz; this is easier:
14:00 schestowitz; openssl req -new -days 365 -x509 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt -keyout /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.key
14:00 bnchs; so IRC clients accept self-signed certs for SASL crap
14:00 bnchs; but not self-signed certs for servers
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14:04 bnchs; invidious actually marks certain instances with (uses cloudflare)
14:04 bnchs; should i filter out those?
14:04 schestowitz-TR; new cert created, I entered more details this time
14:04 schestowitz-TR; so it looks more credibile
14:04 schestowitz-TR; not that Gulag and CA cartel will be pleased by that
14:04 schestowitz-TR; to them, "trust" is US, as in us and USA
14:06 bnchs; "Instances using any DDoS Protection / MITM MUST be marked as such (eg: Cloudflare, DDoS-Guard...)."
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14:07 schestowitz; Fingerprints
14:07 schestowitz; 75:EB:DE:EC:A3:9D:FC:A2:90:67:2F:7A:EF:F7:58:16:D9:2E:09:90:4D:7F:35:69:7D:8A:17:98:7C:90:B6:5B
14:07 schestowitz; or sha-1
14:07 schestowitz; 52:5D:80:EB:26:97:BB:83:2B:CC:61:E9:67:D4:A1:F6:6C:6D:47:CB
14:08 bnchs; verified
14:08 schestowitz-TR; wait, I might need to restart apache or reload
14:08 schestowitz-TR; for change to take effect
14:09 schestowitz; Firefox:
14:09 schestowitz; techrights.org uses an invalid security certificate.
14:09 schestowitz;
14:09 schestowitz; The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
14:09 schestowitz;
14:09 schestowitz; Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT
14:09 schestowitz; It's trust of Donald Trump and Joe Biden sign it
14:09 schestowitz; if the site owners signs it, naughty naughty
14:09 schestowitz; I get it
14:10 bnchs; "Accept The Risk and Continue"
14:11 psydruid; Open wallet in order to get OpenPOWER
14:12 schestowitz; New fingerprint
14:12 schestowitz; SHA-256
14:12 schestowitz; 2D:E3:9F:A3:85:46:B6:B6:C7:3E:CE:0F:CA:C9:C9:88:1D:80:45:FA:D2:4B:98:77:
14:12 schestowitz; psydruid: IBM is open. for business.
14:12 schestowitz; "come right in!"
14:13 bnchs; schestowitz, your server keeps downgrading me to HTTP
14:13 bnchs; when i visit it on HTTPS
14:15 schestowitz-TR; CA 'security' model" TRUSTED BY USA" or "VERIFIED BY USA"
14:15 schestowitz-TR; What if the USA is not trustworthy
14:15 schestowitz-TR; like there is a war
14:16 schestowitz-TR; ICBM system: error, could not connect to satellite for coordinates of nuke target. Satellite certificate revoked by Lets Encrypt
14:16 bnchs; Connecting to satellite over HTTP
14:17 schestowitz-TR; Lets Encrypt is funded by Rockefeller
14:17 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: then the signal will be intercepted by some f-35
14:17 schestowitz-TR; and send it "Moscow" :-)
14:17 schestowitz-TR; get popcorn
14:18 schestowitz-TR; XRevan8 says Putler isn't even there
14:19 schestowitz-TR; letsencrypt web site is microsoft shithub
14:19 schestowitz-TR; nothing says trust like microsoft
14:19 schestowitz-TR; and nsa as CSO of github
14:19 XRevan86; He was there today, he was saying farewell to an old friend.
14:20 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: we HATE antitrust. TRUST us!
14:20 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: yes, I read
14:20 schestowitz-TR; whose name is similar to ukraine's comedian
14:20 schestowitz-TR; comedian in chef
14:20 schestowitz-TR; *chuef
14:20 schestowitz-TR; *chief
14:20 schestowitz-TR; but too old, 75
14:21 XRevan86; Not similiar from my perspective.
14:21 psydruid; comedian master chef
14:21 XRevan86; But he was also a comedian, but he specialised in dark comedy.
14:21 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: putin's chef
14:22 schestowitz; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead
14:22 Alternative link; CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead
14:22 TR Bot; NO TITLE
14:22 schestowitz; I've put that in http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/
14:22 TR Bot; Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights
14:22 schestowitz; around 9 am today
14:22 schestowitz; they said clown prince
14:22 XRevan86; accurate
14:22 schestowitz; his ashes will be scattered into the clown
14:23 schestowitz; and then it will be restarted
14:23 schestowitz; "who is THIS DAEMON??"
14:23 XRevan86; "of the misleadingly named Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" <- Hungarian Young Democrats approve.
14:24 schestowitz-TR; DKPR
14:24 schestowitz-TR; DPKR
14:24 schestowitz-TR; DPRK
14:25 schestowitz-TR; I always forget the order
14:25 schestowitz-TR; need to read out the words to remember
14:25 schestowitz-TR; people's
14:25 schestowitz-TR; democratic
14:25 schestowitz-TR; but without election
14:25 schestowitz-TR; by people
14:25 schestowitz-TR; Republic is OK
14:25 schestowitz-TR; because it's vacuous
14:25 schestowitz-TR; like Republics
14:26 schestowitz-TR; Reptiles
14:26 schestowitz-TR; Repugnicantsd
14:26 XRevan86; schestowitz: "People's" can also be read like "National"
14:28 TR News; "The Ukrainian president thanked Finland for supporting Ukraine during the conflict, and urged Finns to do more to support his country even after the conflict ends." https://yle.fi/news/3-12396370 wait, Finland is NOT part of Russia???https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/finns-aghast-that-trump-could-think-their-country-is-part-of-russia
14:28 TR Bot; Ukrainian President Zelensky warns Russia could "do the same" to Finland | News | Yle Uutiset
14:28 TR Bot; Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia | Donald Trump | The Guardian
14:29 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: not far from you
14:29 schestowitz-TR; maybe Putin can evacuate you to Helsinki
14:29 schestowitz-TR; lots of high--paying jobs there
14:29 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/1237243/
14:29 TR Bot; debian Pastezone
14:29 XRevan86; schestowitz: That would be very convinient.
14:30 psydruid; ICBM is colluding with and helping Microsoft, Intel and AMD with this latest move to deprecate BIOS
14:30 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: thanks, let me try..
14:31 psydruid; the message is: don't spend any money on anything from ICBM and let them go bankrupt
14:31 psydruid; including using and contributing to Fedora, RHEL and CentOS
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14:39 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
14:39 TR Bot; dare you kick me!
14:40 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
14:40 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
14:40 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give Up My Destiny (Lovelyz Mashup) - Invidious
14:40 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
14:40 schestowitz; wait, maybe it recovered with the old code file
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14:40 TR Bot; dare you kick me!
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14:44 schestowitz; bnchs: arrays not allowed in class constants
14:44 schestowitz; fatal error
14:44 bnchs; really?
14:44 schestowitz; if you can tell me the diff
14:44 bnchs; ok i'll fix that
14:45 schestowitz; I've added you to credits
14:46 schestowitz; do you want your email there?
14:47 TR News; How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system VITUX https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/ Source: vitux
14:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: vitux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/
14:48 TR News; Create Your Own Custom Light and Dark Dynamic Wallpaper for GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163500
14:49 bnchs; well i don't have an email
14:50 schestowitz-TR; ok, just nickname added
14:51 bnchs; i wish i could find a good email service
14:55 schestowitz-TR; make your own
14:55 schestowitz-TR; either domain ro hosting
14:55 schestowitz-TR; or both
14:55 schestowitz-TR; at the very least domain
14:55 schestowitz-TR; at least then you can change hosts
14:55 schestowitz-TR; with DNS
14:57 TR News; "I can't believe I have to keep saying this, but Proton gaming IS Linux gaming. Even if they're a small minority, there are too many people saying that Proton/Wine is somehow "corrupting" Linux or ruining Linux gaming." It does more good than harm, all in all. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BPlo31brOy8
14:58 TR News; "Sick of this" says the person sponsored by Valve, sick by people who criticise Valve
14:59 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/64054701/
15:06 TR News; </li>
15:06 TR News; We recently spotted some promotional plugs in Geminispace; while it may seem indicative of growth, it does lead to potential perils and genuine concerns http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/the-temptation-to-promote-paid-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/
15:06 TR News; The planned obsolescence complex of IBM is showing; things that are widely supported and also very much needed are now candidates for abandonment http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
15:08 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: the changes are public static?
15:08 bnchs; well yeah
15:08 bnchs; and phirce::INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES
15:09 MinceR; inviting MICROS~1 to sue for API copyrights does no harm anymore?
15:12 schestowitz-TR; I changed those two things
15:12 schestowitz-TR; now I get:
15:12 schestowitz-TR; syntax_error, unexpected 'INVIDIOUS_INSTANCE' (T_STRING), expecting variable (T_VARIABLE)
15:13 bnchs; INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES
15:13 bnchs; not INVIDIOUS_INSTANCE
15:13 bnchs; wait
15:13 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, what line
15:14 schestowitz-TR; oh wait
15:14 bnchs; yeah it's $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES
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15:24 schestowitz-TR; aha
15:24 schestowitz-TR; some bugfixes
15:24 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:24 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:24 TR Bot; not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM )
15:25 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:25 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4
15:25 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4
15:25 TR Bot; not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4 )
15:25 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF43
15:25 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4
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15:27 bnchs; schestowitz, uhhh
15:27 bnchs; hmmm
15:28 schestowitz-TR; + $inv_key = $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES[array_rand($INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES)];
15:28 schestowitz-TR; undefined variable
15:28 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES is undefined?
15:28 bnchs; but it's defined in public static top of the file
15:28 schestowitz-TR; array_rand() expected parameter 1 to be array, NIULL given
15:29 bnchs; is there public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES?
15:31 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, do you have PHP 5.6?
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15:35 schestowitz-TR; 5.4.16
15:36 bnchs; no wait i did something wrong
15:36 schestowitz-TR; ok
15:36 schestowitz-TR; better highlight the line changed
15:36 schestowitz-TR; not the whole lot
15:36 schestowitz-TR; as I check the changes line by line
15:37 TR News; Delhi HC directs MHA to clarify its position on maintenance of e-surveillance data https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/ Source: internetfreedom
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15:37 Alternative link; CloudFlare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/
15:37 TR Bot; Delhi HC directs MHA to clarify its position on maintenance of e-surveillance data
15:38 TR News; Short history of the "What is Free Software (Open Source)?" video https://k7r.eu/short-history-of-the-what-is-free-software-open-source-video/
15:38 TR Bot; Matthias Kirschner's Web log Short history of the "What is Free Software (Open Source)?" video
15:38 bnchs; it's more than one
15:39 schestowitz-TR; OK, so keep track of which ones change
15:39 bnchs; so one of the things
15:39 bnchs; move the public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to the class itself
15:39 bnchs; and rename the $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES
15:39 schestowitz-TR; all occurrences?
15:40 schestowitz-TR; and WITH $|?
15:40 bnchs; well in the $inv_key line
15:40 bnchs; yeah
15:41 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fuel-2
15:41 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fuel
15:41 schestowitz-TR; only that line?
15:41 bnchs; yes
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15:41 bnchs; phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES
15:41 schestowitz-TR; $inv_key = .... ?
15:42 bnchs; yeah
15:42 bnchs; $inv_key = phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES[array_rand(phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES)];
15:42 schestowitz-TR; it has two occurrences there
15:42 bnchs; well yeah
15:44 schestowitz-TR; and the public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES goes to which line?
15:44 bnchs; https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9e66206c/
15:44 TR Bot; Debian Pastezone
15:44 bnchs; yo ucan check this out
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15:48 TR Bot; dare you kick me!
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15:51 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:51 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:51 TR Bot; not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM )
15:52 bnchs; undefined variable?
15:52 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:52 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFMg
15:52 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:52 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM6
15:52 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:52 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM8
15:52 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM
15:53 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH35
15:53 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:53 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH354
15:53 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:53 bnchs; what are the errors
15:53 schestowitz-TR; tail -f shows
15:54 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
15:54 TR Bot; https:///watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
15:54 TR Bot; not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E )
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15:57 bnchs; wait
15:57 schestowitz-TR; inv_key cannot find that variable
15:57 schestowitz-TR; take your time
15:58 schestowitz-TR; "undefined variable: INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES"
15:59 TR News; It would be more risky now with Russia at one edge of the sea https://bergie.iki.fi/blog/baltic-shakedown-cruise/
16:00 TR News; "In 2021, LibreOffice celebrated its eleventh birthday. Two new major versions of the suite introduced a variety of new features, while minor releases helped to improve stability as well" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/08/annual-report-2021-libreoffice-releases-and-updates/
16:00 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/70382a96/
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16:04 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
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16:04 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/centuries This is not true :).
16:04 schestowitz-TR; it feels like an experiment
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16:05 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
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16:05 bnchs; did it crash
16:06 bnchs; uhh why did it crash
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16:07 schestowitz-TR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
16:07 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
16:07 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Tom Lehrer - Lobachevsky - Invidious
16:07 schestowitz-TR; oh
16:07 schestowitz-TR; at last
16:07 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
16:07 schestowitz-TR; trying in another channel
16:07 schestowitz-TR; try a second url
16:07 schestowitz-TR; it has dupe detection
16:08 bnchs; https://youtube.com/watch?v=IZZ59HOdAbI
16:08 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=IZZ59HOdAbI
16:08 TR Bot; invidious.mutahar.rocks | YouTube Has Blacklisted My Channel - Invidious
16:08 MinceR; 08 170455 < XRevan86> https://smbc-comics.com/comic/centuries This is not true :).
16:08 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Centuries
16:08 MinceR; legal issues?
16:09 schestowitz-TR; it works in #boycottnovell-social too
16:09 schestowitz-TR; I will deploy to the 5 channels
16:09 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSCX78-8-q0
16:09 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=oSCX78-8-q0
16:09 schestowitz-TR; and push to git
16:09 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | A Boy And His Atom: The World's Smallest Movie - Invidious
16:09 bnchs; well the randomization works
16:09 XRevan86; MinceR: No, Star Trek is set in an alternative reality.
16:10 MinceR; aren't most shows set in an alternative reality?
16:10 XRevan86; MinceR: I mean the chronology is alternative too.
16:10 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: one option is, in the future many, take 2-3 at random
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16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.36
16:10 schestowitz-TR; but it would be noisy in IRC
16:10 bnchs; yeah too noisy
16:10 XRevan86; MinceR: I'm trying to be vague because I don't remember which year is considered a deriving point.
16:11 bnchs; i don't know how would you do 2-3
16:12 MinceR; :>
16:13 XRevan86; MinceR: "The Eugenics Wars (or the Great Wars) were a series of conflicts fought on Earth between 1992 and 1996."
16:13 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/you-should-hear-grass-complain-when-it-rains/ )
16:13 Alternative link; CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg
16:13 TR Bot; You should hear grass complain when it rains
16:13 MinceR; ic
16:14 XRevan86; So our present day is not a prequel to Star Trek :)
16:17 schestowitz-TR; ok, it's in git now
16:17 schestowitz-TR; I tidied up a little
16:18 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: thanks
16:18 schestowitz-TR; added you to file and commit log
16:19 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGUtTiRDxSw
16:19 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=CGUtTiRDxSw
16:19 TR Bot; inv.bp.mutahar.rocks | GOAL | Laporte Own Goal | Southampton v Manchester City | Quarter-Final | Emirates FA Cup 2021-22 - Invidious
16:19 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhCRaE-ll4
16:19 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=tXhCRaE-ll4
16:19 TR Bot; y.com.sb | GOAL | Kevin De Bruyne | Southampton v Manchester City | Quarter-Final | Emirates FA Cup 2021-22 - Invidious
16:20 schestowitz; OK, that works as expecte
16:20 schestowitz; some domains will expire
16:20 schestowitz; but at least they'll gey more traffic
16:20 schestowitz; no clownflare
16:21 bnchs; yeah i filtered out the clownflare domains
16:21 TR News; CPE Weekly Update Week of April 4th 8th - Fedora 'Community' Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-4th-8th/ Source: 'community' fedoraproject
16:21 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update Week of April 4th 8th Fedora Community Blog
16:21 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: excellent, good thinking
16:21 schestowitz-TR; so they get no traffic
16:21 schestowitz-TR; unless it's direct
16:21 schestowitz-TR; clownflare loses money
16:21 schestowitz-TR; let's keep it that way
16:21 bnchs; it was only like 2 domains
16:22 bnchs; that had clownflare
16:22 schestowitz-TR; CF = bait and switch
16:22 schestowitz-TR; when the switch loads of "users" will flee
16:22 schestowitz-TR; they won' become "customers"
16:22 schestowitz-TR; *won't
16:22 schestowitz-TR; then the Web might be back to the real hosters
16:22 schestowitz-TR; not a fake 'CDN'
16:23 bnchs; yewtu.be had downloads disabled
16:24 TR News; Firefox 100 Enters Beta Testing with GTK Overlay Scrollbars Enabled by Default Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163501
16:24 TR Bot; Firefox 100 Enters Beta Testing with GTK Overlay Scrollbars Enabled by Default | Tux Machines
16:24 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: haha
16:24 schestowitz-TR; maybe gulag lawyers fired already
16:24 schestowitz-TR; and they tried to appease them
16:24 schestowitz-TR; maybe proactively
16:24 schestowitz-TR; seeing some recent court cases
16:24 schestowitz-TR; not in .NL
16:26 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: I have this idea
16:26 schestowitz-TR; in Daily Links I will use yewtu.be
16:26 schestowitz-TR; but in IRC
16:26 schestowitz-TR; the original youtube
16:26 schestowitz-TR; as it'll last longer as all the rest
16:26 schestowitz-TR; then your code will give the alt link
16:26 schestowitz-TR; the idea is to drown out youtube
16:27 schestowitz-TR; no single site to attack
16:27 schestowitz-TR; hydra modus
16:27 schestowitz-TR; if we can have 20 very heavily used instance
16:27 schestowitz-TR; better than what mastodon is doing
16:27 schestowitz-TR; few massive instances
16:27 schestowitz-TR; and then some tiny ones
16:27 bnchs; instance actually has a button
16:27 bnchs; for switching instances
16:27 schestowitz-TR; the lawyers like it that way, they send one letter
16:27 bnchs; invidious actually has a button*
16:28 bnchs; you click and you choose an instance
16:28 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: only if the domain is up
16:28 schestowitz-TR; otherwide it goes nowhere
16:28 schestowitz-TR; omar already did that
16:28 schestowitz-TR; he made his instance just link to other ones
16:28 bnchs; yes
16:28 schestowitz-TR; I assume invidio.us got too much threatening stuff
16:28 schestowitz-TR; so he's like,,
16:29 schestowitz-TR; ok, folks, make lots of hydre heads here
16:29 schestowitz-TR; I will just link
16:29 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks did the same
16:29 schestowitz-TR; after aws kicked them out
16:29 bnchs; it's better that people should host their own invidious instance
16:29 bnchs; gives gulag tons of targets
16:29 schestowitz-TR; for the crime of exposing us war crimes and corruption
16:29 schestowitz-TR; dmca to microsdoft shithub
16:29 schestowitz-TR; "hi
16:29 schestowitz-TR; "your site has all these accounts:
16:30 schestowitz-TR; [list of 100 accounts or repos
16:30 schestowitz-TR; "please remove them all"
16:30 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft: SIR YES SIR
16:30 schestowitz-TR; turns out forking Microsoft inside Microsoft is futile ;-)
16:30 schestowitz-TR; "don't worry ma, hold ma drink, ima fork this"
16:31 schestowitz-TR; ma watches as she forks a github repo into another github repoo
16:31 schestowitz-TR; oops
16:31 schestowitz-TR; repoo
16:31 bnchs; did they do that with youtube-dl
16:31 schestowitz-TR; fitting type
16:31 schestowitz-TR; shithub repoo
16:31 bnchs; when RIAA dmca'd microsoft shithub
16:31 schestowitz-TR; shitpoo
16:31 bnchs; youtube-dl's source code got mirrored everywhere
16:31 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: yes!
16:31 schestowitz-TR; we published the letter again
16:31 schestowitz-TR; wait
16:32 schestowitz-TR; they did not strike at one account
16:32 schestowitz-TR; they listed tons of forks
16:34 schestowitz; I cannot find it easily atm
16:34 schestowitz; just tried
16:34 schestowitz; it's an .md file
16:34 schestowitz; markdown
16:34 TR News; "Nearly all of modern computer engineers are working above so many layers that theres no human way to understand what they are doing." gemini://tobykurien.com/microblog.gmi
16:34 bnchs; yeah they striked at all the forks
16:35 bnchs; that were in shithub
16:35 TR News; TIC-80 Dino Run gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-04-08-tic-80-dino-run.gmi
16:36 TR News; "These social protections have been slowly eroding over decades" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-08-i-answer-questions-part-iv.gmi
16:38 TR News; '3 Man Chess: In The Round' in APL (NARS2000). Part 2. gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-08-3mc.gmi
16:40 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: doesn't matter if you call the principal branch main or master
16:40 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is always the master
16:41 schestowitz-TR; and it does what's good for its business interests
16:41 schestowitz-TR; you are just their slave in shithub
16:41 schestowitz-TR; with your rePOO
16:42 bnchs; shit in the repoo
16:43 schestowitz-TR; got "likes"
16:43 schestowitz-TR; and "stars"
16:43 schestowitz-TR; smart toilet
16:43 schestowitz-TR; be a star
16:43 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: my repoo got 100 STARS
16:43 schestowitz-TR; in github
16:44 schestowitz-TR; but my code was still shit
16:44 schestowitz-TR; turns out the stars don't make the code better!
16:44 bnchs; thanks to shithub
16:44 *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
16:44 bnchs; for bringing concepts of social control media
16:44 bnchs; to version control
16:44 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163502
16:44 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:44 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: I give your code two stars, a fork, and s knife
16:45 bnchs; wtf is forks and stars
16:45 bnchs; that should be in yelp
16:45 TR News; How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163503
16:45 bnchs; not shithub
16:45 TR Bot; How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system | Tux Machines
16:45 schestowitz-TR; your code is so good it was forked
16:45 schestowitz-TR; iow, people did NOT agree with itss direction
16:45 schestowitz-TR; here, have 4 spoons
16:45 schestowitz-TR; enjoy the meal!
16:46 bnchs; heres a spork
16:46 schestowitz-TR; employers thaqt hire based on how many "stars" Microsoft gave you is like a boyfriend who chooses you for how many guys you slept
16:46 schestowitz-TR; *with
16:47 bnchs; less is better?
16:47 schestowitz-TR; no!
16:47 TR News; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163504
16:47 TR Bot; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:47 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: the promiscuity industry calls that "experience"
16:47 bnchs; you gotta have a limit
16:47 schestowitz-TR; "he has experience" = he has sex many times or with many partners
16:48 bnchs; before you start hiring straight out sluts
16:48 schestowitz-TR; (also: likely to have STD and infidelity issues)
16:52 *ziraffep (~ziraffep@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights
16:58 TR News; "Continuing my Custom Built Desktop Development." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZamHzC1JJk
16:58 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=RZamHzC1JJk
16:58 TR Bot; invidious.privacy.gd | Live - Building my Custom Desktop - Invidious
16:58 schestowitz-TR; woohoo
16:58 schestowitz-TR; so that's how I'll link from now on
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 303.20
16:59 schestowitz-TR; master copy
16:59 schestowitz-TR; followed by random instance of Invidious
17:00 TR News; It looks like Linux Foundation hired to interject some real stories into Linux.com. We shall see if that lasts...
17:00 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Nitrux GNU/Linux 20220402" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYqhRclRX0
17:00 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=QfYqhRclRX0
17:00 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | How to install Nitrux 20220402 - Invidious
17:04 psydruid; someone just told me that me having issues with the bloat and slowness of KDE is an issue with me and not with KDE
17:04 TR News; Videos: Proton, Nitrux, and Custom-Made Distro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163505
17:04 TR Bot; Videos: Proton, Nitrux, and Custom-Made Distro | Tux Machines
17:04 *psydruid joins MinceR in his assertion that mankind is a lost cause
17:05 psydruid; Deadrat Syndrome is strong in the free^wopen source community
17:06 TR News; LibreOffice QA Blog - Updates from the Quality Assurance community: QA/DEV REPORT: MARCH 2022 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/04/08/qa-dev-report-march-2022/
17:06 TR Bot; QA/Dev Report: March 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog
17:07 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: stop being poor. buy a new computer already. Your singiness makes "linux" look bad!
17:07 schestowitz-TR; stinginess
17:08 matey; someone just told me that me having issues with the bloat and slowness of KDE is an issue with me and not with KDE <-
17:08 matey; /me thinks kde has become a pile of shit, along with most of its fans
17:09 matey; <psydruid> ACTION joins MinceR in his assertion that mankind is a lost cause <- no but kde is a fucking lost cause
17:09 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: what specs?
17:09 schestowitz-TR; maybe it's not a machine for kde
17:09 matey; no such thing
17:10 matey; a machine for kde <- /me builds a cluster that NEEDS useless crap added to it
17:10 schestowitz-TR; even at uni I noticed it
17:10 schestowitz-TR; as speeds doubled every few years
17:10 schestowitz-TR; and RAM also
17:10 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, it's called supercomputer syndrome
17:10 schestowitz-TR; instead of encouraging better s/w developers
17:10 bnchs; they blame bloat on the computer being OLD
17:10 schestowitz-TR; and development
17:10 schestowitz-TR; it encouraged developers to avoid optimisation
17:11 schestowitz-TR; and wrongly assume everyone had the same specs as them
17:11 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, not throw away the devs you have
17:11 schestowitz-TR; so that became a curse
17:11 bnchs; try to teach them how to optimize
17:11 schestowitz-TR; with js/electron it's taken to the extreme
17:11 bnchs; and not to rely on libraries for everything
17:11 psydruid; schestowitz-TR, my HP Zbook Studio G3 with an Intel Core i7-6700HQ with 32 GB of RAM and Nvidia M1000 graphics with 4 GB of video RAM and 1.5 TB of NVMe storage
17:12 psydruid; I'm sure it's not my specs
17:12 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: maybe it's not configured right
17:12 schestowitz-TR; KDE does not even take 600mb f ram
17:12 schestowitz-TR; be sure tyo diabled baloo or whatever
17:12 psydruid; it's not the memory consumption, it's the piece of shit software
17:13 schestowitz-TR; akonadi
17:13 schestowitz-TR; gnome-indexer
17:13 psydruid; I won't have any of it anymore
17:13 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/straight-wont-do/ )
17:13 Alternative link; CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg
17:13 TR Bot; Straight wont do
17:13 bnchs; electron and JS ruined optimization
17:13 psydruid; KDE developers can throw themselves into a ditch
17:13 bnchs; instead of looking for efficient software
17:14 bnchs; they look for ways to do things efficiently for the programmers
17:14 bnchs; at the cost of the performance
17:14 TR News; How to Install FreeTube on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy - Linux Shout https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ Source: how2shout
17:14 Alternative link; CloudFlare: how2shout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
17:14 TR Bot; How to Install FreeTube on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy - Linux Shout
17:14 bnchs; freetube is a electron app
17:15 MinceR; explains why keyboard shortcuts don't work in it most of the time
17:15 psydruid; I tried it once, it's worse than crap
17:15 MinceR; at least it supports sponsorblock
17:15 psydruid; it's free software as malware
17:15 MinceR; a while ago even subtitles worked
17:15 MinceR; they no longer do
17:15 bnchs; lol mpv supports sponsorblock (as a plugin)
17:15 bnchs; and it's written in C
17:15 bnchs; the plugin, in lua and python
17:16 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg
17:16 Alternative link; CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg
17:16 TR Bot; Intel Xeon Platinum 8380 "Ice Lake" Linux Performance One Year After Launch Image (Icelake 2022 1)
17:17 bnchs; did you know: electron was originally made by shithub in 2013
17:18 bnchs; before it was acquired by micro$oft
17:18 matey; <psydruid> I won't have any of it anymore <- nor will i
17:18 bnchs; but now electron is being developed by OpenJS foundation
17:18 bnchs; "Founding members included Google, Microsoft, IBM, PayPal, GoDaddy, and Joyent."
17:18 TR News; Raspberry Pi OS gets some big updates, possible to run experimental Wayland http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33302
17:18 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines
17:19 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: yes, I know
17:19 schestowitz-TR; they made lots of other shit
17:19 bnchs; yes
17:19 schestowitz-TR; i never met anyone who uses atom
17:19 schestowitz-TR; except the syndication format
17:19 bnchs; maybe because atom requires you to have a supercomputer
17:19 bnchs; i tried using it
17:19 TR News; DietPi Released a New Version 8.3 https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/
17:19 Alternative link; CloudFlare: dietpi.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/
17:19 TR Bot; April 2022 - DietPi.com Docs
17:19 bnchs; it literally slowed down my computer
17:20 schestowitz-TR; yes, it's awful
17:20 schestowitz-TR; the browser kills off your PC
17:20 schestowitz-TR; memory leaks
17:20 schestowitz-TR; swap/paging
17:20 schestowitz-TR; even cpu usage is inaane
17:20 bnchs; and it adds to your security vector
17:20 schestowitz-TR; *inane and insane
17:20 bnchs; an entire browser
17:22 TR News; Zink, the OpenGL on top of Vulkan driver gets 'Kopper' merged huge for the future http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163466#comment-33303
17:22 TR Bot; Why is Kopper and Zink important? AKA the future of OpenGL | Tux Machines
17:22 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163506
17:22 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
17:22 bnchs; electron shouldn't be used for anything
17:23 bnchs; it's only used by developers who want to make their programs quickly
17:23 bnchs; at the user's expense
17:23 bnchs; and it results in low-quality programs
17:23 schestowitz-TR; make its developers pay for the electricity
17:23 schestowitz-TR; and then see how they abandon it
17:23 schestowitz-TR; for waste
17:24 schestowitz-TR; batteries also
17:24 schestowitz-TR; for "phones"
17:25 TR News; Linux Mint working on a new upgrade tool for major releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33304
17:25 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines
17:25 schestowitz-TR; lots of talk about how bitcoin causes pollution
17:25 schestowitz-TR; but not JS
17:25 schestowitz-TR; companies love JS
17:25 schestowitz-TR; they can sell more computers
17:25 schestowitz-TR; and develop crApps
17:25 schestowitz-TR; bitcoin is less useful to them
17:26 schestowitz-TR; I want to see a headline comparing power wasted on JS
17:26 schestowitz-TR; compared to a whole country
17:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe sweden
17:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe italy
17:26 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1
17:26 Alternative link; CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1
17:26 TR Bot; Xeon Platinum 8380 "Ice Lake" Linux Performance One Year After Launch - Phoronix
17:27 bnchs; yes
17:27 bnchs; it also means
17:27 bnchs; they throw away any performance issues
17:27 bnchs; as "just buy another computer bro"
17:28 bnchs; i wan to see statistics on how much power wasted on a electron app
17:28 bnchs; and modern news websites
17:28 bnchs; running it on an average desktop CPU
17:32 TR News; Links 08/04/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 RC2 and OpenSSH 9.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/openssh-9-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/openssh-9-0/
17:32 TR Bot; Links 08/04/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 RC2 and OpenSSH 9.0 | Techrights
17:33 matey; electron.ms
17:33 bnchs; we can fix climate change
17:33 bnchs; IF WE STOP USING TONS OF JAVASCRIPT
17:34 MinceR; we can't fix climate change
17:34 matey; "mincer" is an abreviation
17:35 matey; of "mister sunshine"
17:35 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163507
17:35 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
17:35 matey; (it just is)
17:35 bnchs; statistics say that majority of power wasted
17:35 bnchs; are wasted by browsers
17:35 bnchs; and javascript engines
17:36 matey; mincer sunshinebringer :)
17:36 bnchs; tone down on the javascript, fatty
17:36 bnchs; you're bringing up my power bill
17:36 bnchs; and i'm poor
17:36 schestowitz-TR; buy a new computer
17:36 schestowitz-TR; with windows tax
17:36 schestowitz-TR; to compensate for MS Electron
17:36 schestowitz-TR; which you don't get to reject
17:36 bnchs; that won't fix the power bill
17:36 schestowitz-TR; "it's in the browser
17:37 schestowitz-TR; "it's in the crAPP"
17:37 schestowitz-TR; buy a new Windows PC
17:37 matey; /me merges kde aith js into jskde, causes a global blackout in the power grids
17:37 schestowitz-TR; pay for another licence
17:37 schestowitz-TR; bloat helps them also pollute the planet with overproduction of machines
17:37 matey; bitcoin miners: "whoa!"
17:38 matey; i dont think that would be enough
17:38 TR News; Peek inside your Git repo with rev-parse | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-repo-rev-parse Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
17:39 TR Bot; inside your Git repo with rev-parse | Opensource.com
17:39 matey; sometimes it works temporarily
17:39 TR News; War Thunder gets officially Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
17:39 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/
17:39 TR Bot; Thunder gets officially Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux
17:39 psydruid; forcing the baloo/akonadi/tracker stuff is a disgrace
17:39 matey; /me knows it can even backfire
17:40 matey; "i dont think derek taylor is worth my time anymore"
17:40 psydruid; but hey, kill your desktop and I will gladly run away
17:40 matey; "fig issued a FATWA against dt, derek taylor"
17:40 TR News; HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed gets a fix for GNU/Linux to play on Windows Servers | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/ "with a small update being rolled out to fix up online play."
17:40 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/
17:40 TR Bot; Unboxed gets a fix for Linux to play on Windows Servers | GamingOnLinux
17:40 matey; hardly
17:40 matey; i stopped watching him after a couple of things turned me off
17:40 matey; /me didnt know watching dt was mandatory
17:40 schestowitz-TR; his s/n ratio is low
17:41 schestowitz-TR; a lot of stuff about his politics
17:41 schestowitz-TR; and some scripts you will never need
17:41 schestowitz-TR; dt was discussed in another channel today
17:41 *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
17:42 matey; /me considers dt a run of the mill opportunist, but among that group hes relatively watchable
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:11] <Techrights-sec> not sure. "influencer" is a euphemism for "shill"
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> DT spams also
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> fake reviews
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> not sure if that's what you're about to say
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:16] <Techrights-sec> Derek Taylor closed his Gemini capsule, he could write a perl or python
17:42 matey; i would have never made a big deal of it. a big deal was made of it for me.
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:16] <Techrights-sec> scraper for that.
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:16] <Techrights-sec> Yes, but I think on average he's mostly a positive force. And despite
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:16] <Techrights-sec> the most recent video so is Brodie Robertson. I disgree with most of the
17:42 schestowitz-TR; [10:16] <Techrights-sec> assessment he made but one point he mentioned almost as an aside is actually
17:43 matey; Derek Taylor closed his Gemini capsule <- another fad
17:43 schestowitz-TR; gemini a fad?
17:43 matey; not gemini, i mean for him personally
17:43 matey; no, i love gemini
17:43 schestowitz-TR; ah
17:43 schestowitz-TR; he said he would make gemini his master
17:43 matey; yeah
17:43 schestowitz-TR; and the www site a derivative of the capsulew
17:43 schestowitz-TR; that never actually happened
17:43 matey; its sort of like the positive side of trolling
17:43 schestowitz-TR; anyway, he mentiond techrights countless times
17:44 matey; usually trolling is negative and gets reactions
17:44 matey; but you know, you latch onto something that means something to people
17:44 matey; like gemini... or even free software
17:44 matey; then you abandon it just as quickly
17:44 schestowitz-TR; you had me watch the clip part
17:44 matey; its sort of like trolling, because you never really meant it
17:44 schestowitz-TR; where he talks about Microsoft
17:44 schestowitz-TR; it was a strike one
17:44 schestowitz-TR; but I did not see a strike 2
17:45 schestowitz-TR; so I let the first one sort of expire
17:45 schestowitz-TR; more recent videos are more boring
17:45 matey; not for me-- what was worse was seeing him trash stallman when the cancellation happened
17:45 DaemonFC; Borat voice: Theeese my neighbor. He is pain in my assholes! I cut my own hair. He go to salon. I wear clothes 15 years old. He go to mall every week. I use library and bittorrent. He have five streaming accounts. I get senior plan for phone line and free phone, he get $1,500 iPhone and AT&T. I invest in stocks and bonds. He invest in big screen TV every year. I learn to cook and buy in bulk. He go out to eat and have water delivered from
17:45 DaemonFC; truck. I buy luxury car with cash, he cannot. GREAT SUCCESS!
17:45 schestowitz-TR; like "ask DT" thing
17:45 matey; so the microsoft thing wasnt even the biggest thing
17:45 matey; and i only elaborated on not watching him because you asked me to elaborate
17:45 schestowitz-TR; I found out about his channel very late
17:46 matey; but i did mention the microsoft thing initially
17:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe 2018
17:46 schestowitz-TR; because he commented on GNOME IIRC
17:46 schestowitz-TR; some "boycott GNOME" rant
17:46 schestowitz-TR; over the CoC
17:46 matey; yeah the gnome thing was useful, because they had an openly racist policy
17:46 matey; that said being racist against white people was ok
17:46 matey; more or less
17:47 matey; thats really not an unfair assessment of it
17:47 schestowitz-TR; apparently he had been widely watcheed for years prior to that, but I was paying no attention at all to GulagTube
17:47 schestowitz-TR; I started paying more attention new was running dry
17:47 schestowitz-TR; *when news was runnign dry
17:47 schestowitz-TR; it has gotten worse sinme
17:47 schestowitz-TR; both the textual news and videos
17:47 matey; i never had anything against other people watching him if they wanted
17:47 schestowitz-TR; the "youtubers" run out of topic
17:47 schestowitz-TR; newcomers and first timers never gert a chance
17:48 schestowitz-TR; gulag cages them at zero
17:48 schestowitz-TR; nobody can find out they evenm exist
17:48 schestowitz-TR; and the old timers already covered all the impoertant issues
17:48 matey; its like twitter video
17:48 schestowitz-TR; so they are mostly dormant, inactive accounts
17:48 matey; well, thats what vines is-- but i mean in terms of algorithms and censorship
17:48 matey; vines, possibly tiktok because after tiktok i never heard about vines again
17:49 schestowitz-TR; then the 'influencers' started doing #shorts
17:49 schestowitz-TR; in youtube
17:49 schestowitz-TR; meaningless stuff
17:49 matey; the influencers were (almost by definition) instagrammers
17:49 matey; but then they took over the web :)
17:49 schestowitz-TR; If I wanted to get tiktok I think I'd need a "phone" and crApp
17:49 matey; i think maybe you can do tiktok with a browser
17:49 schestowitz-TR; not sure you can access it via "web" site
17:49 matey; i tried it once but i didnt inhale
17:50 matey; no i mean i literally tried to watch a tiktok video to see if it was even technically possible
17:50 schestowitz-TR; "i didn't even enjoy it"
17:50 matey; but the videos there have no appeal
17:50 schestowitz-TR; "he meant nothing to me!"
17:50 matey; in fact i said if they had any appeal at all, they would be copied to youtube
17:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I like the new Adwaita theme in GNOME 42.
17:50 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: want for the ads
17:51 schestowitz-TR; *wait
17:51 matey; "he meant nothing to me!" <- okay i admit it, i have stock in tiktok
17:51 DaemonFC; Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3.
17:51 matey; i paid one youtube dollar for it
17:51 schestowitz-TR; ad-waita' (waiter)
17:51 schestowitz-TR; in the gnome nautilus file manager
17:51 schestowitz-TR; the gnome ad-waiter
17:51 matey; <DaemonFC> Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3. <- just a pretty face
17:51 DaemonFC; New York accent: Hey Waita! I want some watah!
17:52 DaemonFC; <matey> <DaemonFC> Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3. <- just a pretty face
17:52 matey; gnome, a pretty face that will take all your resources and eat you out of house and home
17:52 DaemonFC; They seem to ave solved the memory leaks that have plagued GNOME for the last decade.
17:52 DaemonFC; *have
17:52 matey; dont worry, they will make more
17:52 matey; i solved gnomes leaks years ago, when i refused to use gnome 3
17:52 DaemonFC; GNOME Software finally doesn't sit there and bloat up to 700 MiB doing nothing like it does in Debian.
17:53 DaemonFC; That was by far the biggest reason to use KDE instead.
17:53 matey; GNOME Software finally doesn't sit there and bloat up to 700 MiB <- must be time for gnome 4 then
17:53 matey; they just fixed it at the last minute so they could gaslight people who said "gnome 3 was crap"
17:53 matey; "no, they fixed it!"
17:53 DaemonFC; Well, GNOME 4x is their new versioning scheme to reflect that it's built atop GTK4.
17:53 DaemonFC; But GTK3 applications still work okay.
17:53 matey; minus a few icons
17:53 matey; but did you manage to fix that?
17:53 matey; /me deletes icons anyway
17:53 DaemonFC; Well, yeah, but I "fixed" it.
17:54 matey; heh
17:54 DaemonFC; For now, just installing GNOME-Icon-Theme fixes many non-GNOME GTK apps like Transmission-GTK.
17:54 DaemonFC; Even if you don't use that Icon Theme globally.
17:54 matey; my applications bitch and moan that they cant find icons in the term output
17:54 DaemonFC; It will fall back on it and work okay.
17:54 matey; but im like "yeah, i know, im the one who removed them"
17:54 DaemonFC; The Qt apps don't know what to do.
17:54 DaemonFC; So I just installed them as Flatpaks, and then they work.
17:55 TR News; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html Source: irvingwb
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17:55 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade
17:55 DaemonFC; I use Okular, Krita, VLC, and QBittorrent quite a lot.
17:55 DaemonFC; And Flatpak is cleaner than dealing with them shitting all over your GNOME system through traditional packaging.
17:55 TR News; IBM's vet (the man who brought GNU/Linux there) Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html
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17:56 DaemonFC; In particular, it moves all of that library junk off to the side where only they use it, and grabs only the files the apps you use need.
17:56 matey; /me thinks flatpak is like a large bin liner full of shit, neatly combined in a large bin liner
17:56 DaemonFC; Then it puts their settings in a standard place, which has never been a big thing.
17:56 matey; but i mean that will make some people happy because its "neatly contained"
17:56 matey; other people will be unhappy that its a giant load of shit
17:56 matey; it depends on what you want it for
17:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, I don't like the whole "mess" that "foreign" applications bring with them.
17:57 TR News; "Welcome to the March 2022 report from the Reproducible Builds project! In our monthly reports we outline the most important things that we have been up to over the past month." https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2022-03/
17:57 TR Bot; Builds in March 2022 reproducible-builds.org
17:57 DaemonFC; They don't conform to the rest of my system, so this imposes some sort of "off to the side" sanity on them.
17:57 matey; of course, thats the entire advantage
17:57 matey; but...
17:57 matey; to support that, you have this other load of shit (os tree)
17:58 matey; that takes over your system (usually, if not always)
17:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The lady at Comcast tried to sell me a 100 Mbps Internet Essentials instead of the 50. It would be $30 instead of $10. So they bill you three times as much for twice the speed. LOL
17:58 schestowitz-TR; for normal
17:58 schestowitz-TR; you get tiers
17:58 schestowitz-TR; like Vista Deluxe Super Extra
17:58 DaemonFC; 50 Mbps is enough to connect to the VPN and leave BitTorrent going until it has the files, schestowitz-TR
17:58 DaemonFC; So it's fine with me. I'm not streaming, so there's no buffer.
17:59 schestowitz-TR; they artificially limit your speed
17:59 schestowitz-TR; they don't do this here
17:59 schestowitz-TR; they stoped throttling too
17:59 DaemonFC; For $9.95 a month and no equipment fees, I'll deal with it.
17:59 schestowitz-TR; so the limit if your pipe's max capacity
17:59 DaemonFC; That's still not a bad deal.
17:59 schestowitz-TR; "budget" airline
17:59 DaemonFC; Reminds me of the slashing prices scene in Falling Down.
17:59 schestowitz-TR; "I don't need to urinate in the flight anyway"
18:00 schestowitz-TR; "I don't need to extend my legs a bit"
18:00 schestowitz-TR; "I don't need to take a nap"
18:00 schestowitz-TR; "who needs an armrest anyway?"
18:00 DaemonFC; Where it's 1993 and he goes in a convenience store and he's like "A dollar for a can of Coke? TOO MUCH!!!!" and starts beating over the displays with a ball bat.
18:00 schestowitz-TR; "I don't need a suitcase, I'll budget what I put in a small backpack"
18:01 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: next stop: "it's OK, I can stand in the aisle"
18:01 schestowitz-TR; "I don't need to sit anyway, I'm still young"
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18:01 DaemonFC; LOL I heard about them proposing this!
18:01 DaemonFC; Just put handles on the aisle like the city bus.
18:01 schestowitz-TR; standing seats
18:01 schestowitz-TR; it's a patent iirc
18:01 DaemonFC; Charge people $40 for tickets.
18:02 schestowitz-TR; packs of sardines
18:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, We had to ascend due to a severe storm on the way to Vegas.
18:02 DaemonFC; So that's probably the closest I'll ever get to space.
18:02 schestowitz-TR; they can reuse the animal cases in the belly of trhe planes
18:02 schestowitz-TR; if there are not many pets like dogs in them
18:02 schestowitz-TR; put some beds in there
18:03 schestowitz-TR; next to the airmail bags
18:03 schestowitz-TR; "look, there is some unused space in the cockpit"
18:03 DaemonFC; The pilot said we were ascending to maximum altitude to fly over the storm.
18:04 DaemonFC; So that would have been almost 8 miles up for that aircraft according to the FAA.
18:04 DaemonFC; I think the legal definition of space is 62 miles.
18:05 DaemonFC; If you get to 62 miles altitude, you're technically an astronaut.
18:05 DaemonFC; So that's what the billionaires are doing now.
18:05 DaemonFC; The minimum definition of "astronaut".
18:05 matey; /me cant imagine there is enough air up there for a passenger jet
18:05 matey; for a spyplane, MAYBE, but im not a physicist
18:05 DaemonFC; It looked pretty black up there.
18:06 DaemonFC; It was surreal, actually.
18:06 matey; but i mean the atmosphere is what makes the plane work
18:06 matey; if youre a spyplane maybe you can get by on the thrust of the engines
18:06 DaemonFC; And looking down at one point, you could see the grand canyon. It was so small.
18:06 matey; but even then, the thrust is compensating for the fact that the wings cant produce much lift with so little air around them
18:06 DaemonFC; Then we started descent, and nothing for a while. No lights or anything.
18:07 DaemonFC; Then out of the darkness, an entire city of lights (Vegas).
18:07 DaemonFC; Then I booked a Grand Canyon tour and got to see it up close.
18:07 DaemonFC; Up close it's so big that it just blows your mind.
18:07 DaemonFC; If I ever go out west again, I'm spending the week there.
18:08 bnchs; qbittorrent has a CPU hog issue
18:08 bnchs; but i still ue it
18:08 DaemonFC; It's so big it almost looks small.
18:08 DaemonFC; It's like you're looking into a really big landscape portrait and your mind can't really reconcile it properly, what you're seeing.
18:08 matey; bittorrent is a beast, even the command line version
18:09 DaemonFC; So everything is, of course, a matter of perspective.
18:09 DaemonFC; If you're 8 miles up, it's just a small path in the dirt.
18:09 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source
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18:09 TR Bot; NVIDIA Open-Source Linux Kernel Graphics Driver Appears - Phoronix
18:09 matey; /me wonders if its because the canyon is so fucking huge-- which it is of course-- or whether its because we spend so much time in cities where shits close together
18:10 DaemonFC; Cities are not how people are meant to live.
18:10 matey; i mean youd want a farmer with a very large farm to stand next to a "city boy" and both look at the canyon
18:10 DaemonFC; It's soul-crushing.
18:10 matey; if they both shit their pants, its not just the city
18:10 matey; but maybe theres a difference
18:10 DaemonFC; It isn't just the city.
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18:10 DaemonFC; I've lived in rural and flat areas where it just goes on and on, and it's not exactly magnificent.
18:11 TR News; Targeting banksters and military... where the capital is https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-highlights-financial-services-industry
18:11 TR Bot; Red Hats The State of Enterprise Open Source report: Highlights from the financial services industry
18:11 matey; fair point
18:11 DaemonFC; You can see for a few miles (because it's farmland).
18:11 matey; cool, so youre our farm boy in the experiment
18:11 matey; /me avoids jokes about fetching pitchers and whatnot
18:11 TR News; "a) The distros I am more comfortable with are Debian and its derivatives. What is currently the nimblest Debian based distro that I could host under Parallels with the sole purpose of running this damn Protege app under its Java?" https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/virtual-linux-with-parallels-on-m1-machines.2341077/
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18:11 TR Bot; Virtual Linux with Parallels on M1 machines | MacRumors Forums
18:12 DaemonFC; To put it into perspective though, I was timing how long before my car passed the windmills off int the distance.
18:12 DaemonFC; I was traveling at roughly 90 miles per hour.
18:12 DaemonFC; It still took minutes.
18:12 DaemonFC; When I was downstate last year.
18:13 DaemonFC; I always go about 80-90 on rural interstates, although since I have the MetroMile device now, I cap my speed at 78 miles per hour.
18:13 DaemonFC; If you spend time traveling over 80 miles per hour, it counts against you when your insurance renews.
18:13 matey; whats the purpose of metromile other than to curb speed?
18:13 matey; oh it helps your insurance rate unless youre an idiot?
18:13 DaemonFC; It keeps my car insurance rather cheap.
18:13 matey; got it
18:13 DaemonFC; About half of what I'd pay anywhere else.
18:14 TR News; Bigger targets for media FUD campaigns which intentionally overlook (barely even mention) epic incidents and back doors in proprietary software, whose vendors pay the media https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/linux-systems-are-becoming-bigger-targets
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18:14 TR Bot; Linux Systems Are Becoming Bigger Targets
18:14 matey; does it track via gps or just acceleration?
18:14 DaemonFC; It's bled other companies of enough customers to annoy them.
18:14 DaemonFC; Allstate introduced MileWise now.
18:14 matey; /me notes that accelerometer sensors can produce roadmaps but it depends on the processing
18:15 TR News; "So, does the new Acer Swift 3 run GNU/Linux?" https://www.xda-developers.com/does-acer-swift-3-2022-run-linux/
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18:15 TR Bot; Does the Acer Swift 3 (2022) laptop run Linux OS?
18:15 DaemonFC; It tracks speed, amount of miles, time of day or night, areas you drive in, weather at the time and place.
18:15 matey; weather!
18:15 matey; ffs
18:15 DaemonFC; And it assesses how much risk you are of a serious accident, on average.
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18:15 DaemonFC; Then it produces a new quote every 6 months at renewal time.
18:15 DaemonFC; Oh yeah, and hard braking.
18:15 DaemonFC; Don't do too much of that.
18:15 TR News; "BUT nobody uses LINUX!" "Oh, yeah??" https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/iar-systems-brings-low-code-state-machine-design-solution-to-linux-301520729.html
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18:15 TR Bot; IAR Systems brings low-code state machine design solution to Linux
18:16 matey; if you find a squirrel, just run the fucker over
18:16 DaemonFC; Like if some idiot gets in front of you and you have to do it once or twice, it's not a big problem.
18:16 matey; no need to get a premium adjustment
18:16 matey; "sorry buddy, im not made of money!"
18:16 TR News; Thankfully our friends of Microsoft are still looking for a cure for cancer. They look for way to kill GNU/Linux.
18:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz, In the last 10 years, I haven't seen any examples of code that may be generally useful to "Linux" users from Microsoft.
18:17 DaemonFC; Except maybe the AMDGPU patch which was 100 lines in the entire kernel, which is tens of millions of lines.
18:17 matey; and will probably lead to a huge vulnerability someday
18:18 matey; who knows why
18:18 DaemonFC; Well, Microsoft is under a review process for that.
18:18 matey; they can brand it "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE"
18:18 DaemonFC; They have to have it checked by AMD and then AMD has to have it approved by the graphics driver subsystem maintainer.
18:18 matey; or pixeldeath!
18:18 DaemonFC; So that's at least better than a raw sewage pipe going straight from Microsoft into Linux.
18:19 schestowitz-TR; yes, I agree
18:19 schestowitz-TR; no good code ever comes from them
18:19 schestowitz-TR; even grek k-microsoft complained
18:19 schestowitz-TR; about technical issues
18:19 matey; fool me once, shame on you. fool me a thousand times, wtf is wrong with me man
18:19 schestowitz-TR; not the lack of need for benefit of actual users
18:19 DaemonFC; Intel's driver code on Linux is MUCH better than it is in Windows.
18:19 DaemonFC; In Windows, a lot of the fault is Microsoft, obviously.
18:19 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163507
18:19 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
18:19 DaemonFC; They define the driver ABI.
18:20 DaemonFC; Then Intel has to sort of code around the bugs in Windows.
18:20 DaemonFC; So they don't control the ground they stand on and the quality of the driver suffers from it.
18:20 schestowitz-TR; Intel needs WIndows
18:20 DaemonFC; The Intel driver on Linux is far, FAR, better.
18:20 schestowitz-TR; to sell lots of junk
18:20 matey; in linux you can only blame developers (developers developers) who were bribed by microsoft as proxies
18:20 DaemonFC; I even have better performance in gaming on Intel's Linux driver, even when it's a Windows game.
18:21 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163508
18:21 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
18:21 DaemonFC; Windows is so bloated and terrible, that even having to go through the translation layer of Wine and VKD3D to get to Linux is more efficient than straight up running the game on Windows.
18:22 TR News; Pygments style gallery https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery
18:22 TR Bot; style gallery | dt.iki.fi
18:22 DaemonFC; In some cases, this has been true for many years. Windows games using OpenGL didn't cause much overhead in Wine so the Windows binaries of like, Doom 3, they ran well in Wine.
18:22 bnchs; windows is so bloated that it wouldn't even be called bloated
18:22 DaemonFC; And the Linux port of Doom 3 didn't work for long.
18:22 bnchs; just call it straight out fat
18:23 DaemonFC; They ripped out OSS emulation from ALSA soon after the port, then stripped it out of the kernel.
18:23 DaemonFC; So the only way to make sound work again by like 2010 was to add plugins to ALSA and then compile your own custom Linux kernel.
18:23 DaemonFC; And it was just easier by that point to use Wine.
18:23 TR News; PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-4-v68-released-2433/ Source: postgresql
18:23 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released
18:24 bnchs; wine still doesn't support MIDI playback in DirectSound
18:24 bnchs; that means some old game maker games have no music
18:24 DaemonFC; Chips Challenge works though. ;)
18:25 TR News; OE and woofQ project tarballs used for Easy 3.4.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163488#comment-33305
18:25 TR Bot; EasyOS 3.4.5 | Tux Machines
18:27 bnchs; yeah
18:27 bnchs; most of the MIDI files old games had were catchy
18:27 bnchs; i wish i could dump them somehow
18:27 DaemonFC; https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/
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18:27 TR Bot; Chip's Challenge 1 on Steam
18:28 DaemonFC; "Melinda the Mental Marvel"
18:28 DaemonFC; MALINDA
18:28 DaemonFC; Creator of Bob?
18:28 bnchs; it's a steam game
18:28 schestowitz-TR; Bill and Lolita gates Foundation
18:28 bnchs; that's fucking dumb
18:28 DaemonFC; http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html
18:28 psydruid; MIRINDA
18:28 TR Bot; Microsoft Bob
18:29 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-lolita-gates.png
18:29 bnchs; minimum operating system: windows vista
18:29 TR News; Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04? Look Out for These Features in 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163509
18:29 TR Bot; Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04? Look Out for These Features in 22.04 | Tux Machines
18:29 schestowitz-TR; MARISOL Gates
18:29 schestowitz-TR; Seattle Police: we went to the mention of MARISOL
18:29 schestowitz-TR; we picked up a boy who loves boys
18:29 schestowitz-TR; and rich people
18:30 DaemonFC; "
18:30 DaemonFC; Bob required a minimum of a 486 with 8 megs of ram, 30 megs of free disk space, and 256 color VGA. Many computers of the day did not meet these minimum requirements.
18:30 DaemonFC; It was too "cute" for the average PC users of the day.
18:30 DaemonFC; Most people at the time who wanted ease of use would just get a Macintosh.
18:30 DaemonFC; Bob was not useful enough to justify its initial sale price of almost $100.
18:30 DaemonFC; Windows 95, which was released later that year, had the new Windows Explorer user interface which wiped the floor with Bob.
18:30 schestowitz-TR; Bill never knew rich people
18:30 psydruid; best used before Vista 95-2000
18:30 DaemonFC; "
18:30 schestowitz-TR; until he started hanging out with "jeffy
18:30 DaemonFC; My 486 only had 250 MB on the entire disk.
18:30 DaemonFC; I ended up erasing Windows to free up space.
18:30 schestowitz-TR; mine 170MB
18:30 schestowitz-TR; nowadays even email eats up the space
18:31 schestowitz-TR; one email with html crap in it can be 200kb
18:31 DaemonFC; DOS software was the only useful part of the system those days.
18:31 schestowitz-TR; 5 of those is already a burden
18:31 schestowitz-TR; zip drive helps a bit
18:31 schestowitz-TR; expensive and low
18:31 DaemonFC; Microsoft forced Windows on OEMs so they'd pass the licensing cost of something essentially useless onto the customer.
18:31 schestowitz-TR; is iomega taken over by now?
18:31 TR News; 10 essential Linux tools for network and security pros Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163510
18:31 TR Bot; 10 essential Linux tools for network and security pros | Tux Machines
18:31 DaemonFC; iomega has been dead for a long time.
18:32 DaemonFC; My Uncle Stan had (probably still has) a system 7.5 Mac with a ZIP drive.
18:32 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163511
18:32 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:32 schestowitz-TR; Uncle Stan
18:32 schestowitz-TR; Stan from the song?
18:32 DaemonFC; ?
18:32 schestowitz-TR; Stan from South Park?
18:32 schestowitz-TR; "Stan""uncle"
18:32 DaemonFC; Stanley
18:33 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_(song)
18:33 TR Bot; Stan (song) - Wikipedia
18:33 DaemonFC; He's a good man. He's the most normal one out of my dad's family.
18:33 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY
18:33 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY
18:33 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Eminem - Stan (Long Version) ft. Dido - Invidious
18:33 DaemonFC; When he was 17 he got pinched with a bunch of other teenagers on a home invasion. The cops pulled up and saw him stealing a TV set, and showed him some leniency.
18:33 DaemonFC; He never got in trouble again.
18:34 DaemonFC; He's been in church every Sunday and Wednesday for the last 40 or so years as far as I know.
18:34 schestowitz-TR; Felta and Stan
18:34 schestowitz-TR; one makes good with God
18:34 schestowitz-TR; the other collects porno tapes
18:34 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: your inheritance is coming
18:34 DaemonFC; My dad would get angry when mom tried to make him go to church on Easter and Christmas.
18:34 schestowitz-TR; bin bags full of VHS
18:35 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: now scientology
18:35 DaemonFC; "Okay! I'll go! FUCKING BITCH! I'll go! Are you happy now, FUCKING BITCH!?"
18:35 schestowitz-TR; it flata bit awkward at first
18:35 DaemonFC; Then he'd show up to church in his suit.
18:35 schestowitz-TR; it felta
18:35 DaemonFC; That's Felta.
18:35 schestowitz-TR; but he learned to love it
18:35 schestowitz-TR; he's like tom cruise now
18:35 schestowitz-TR; or john trvaolta
18:35 DaemonFC; And by the time he did go for Easter or Christmas he ruined the whole day and everyone was in a really awful mood.
18:36 DaemonFC; Then we'd get back and have Easter dinner with the whole family over and Felta would grab a plate and lock himself in his "study" to masturbate to porno magazines and do correspondence studies at IU and play Gold Box Dungeons and Dragons on DOS.
18:37 DaemonFC; That's when the mood outside of that room started to lighten up and everyone else enjoyed the day.
18:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, That's my dad.
18:38 DaemonFC; Then they had a company dinner at a fancy restaurant in Indianapolis and he wouldn't let mom have access to any money, including what she made as a hospital nurse.
18:38 DaemonFC; So she had to super glue the heel back onto her shoe.
18:38 TR News; Gulag strings attached to projects that apply https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/04/google-summer-of-code-2022-contributor-applications-now-open.html
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18:39 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.17.2, 5.16.19, 5.15.33, and 5.10.110 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163512
18:39 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.17.2, 5.16.19, 5.15.33, and 5.10.110 | Tux Machines
18:39 DaemonFC; And she tried to get him to wear something nice, but he said "THEY SAID DRESS CASUAL!" and so he went in an old t-shirt, suspenders, and the jeans he mowed the lawn in, with grass stains.
18:39 DaemonFC; Mom said other people were staring at him and he was oblivious to it and she was sitting there wishing she could crawl under the table.
18:40 TR News; "The chimp stood outside, pounding its chest. I was hungry. I couldn't stand there all night waiting for it to leave. Furious, I pounded my own chest and opened the door." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/879
18:40 DaemonFC; She said I got the best parts of my dad though. She said "Well, at least you're smart and good with money and not mean to people for absolutely no reason all the time, and you're tall."
18:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The other day Mandy was demanding a hair cut and I told him "I'm buying a car. We do not have money to take you for a haircut!" and I made him get in the bathroom and I did it myself, and he doesn't look any worse than what Great Clips does.
18:43 DaemonFC; They just charge a lot.
18:43 DaemonFC; My god, with the inflation and tips and all that, you're talking $30 for a hair cut now.
18:43 DaemonFC; Thanks Biden.
18:44 DaemonFC; And the state of Illinois isn't making it any better.
18:44 DaemonFC; They force hair stylists to undergo a basic psychology course and how to discuss women's issues like domestic violence to get their license.
18:45 DaemonFC; So that puts up barriers to becoming a hair stylist, and so there will be less, and the ones that get the license to do it cost more because of the state.
18:45 TR News; UK COVID-19 Deaths Soar to About 1,500 Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/08/uk-deaths-soar/
18:45 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Deaths Soar to About 1,500 Per Week
18:45 schestowitz-TR; matey: my barber shut down
18:45 schestowitz-TR; last year
18:45 schestowitz-TR; so now rianne cuts it
18:45 schestowitz-TR; he used to charge 10 pounds
18:45 schestowitz-TR; impossible to go lower than that
18:45 schestowitz-TR; years ago it was 8 pounds, very low
18:46 schestowitz-TR; (of course he was gay and played bet shop boys there, never bothered me as long as he cut well)
18:47 bnchs; i wonder
18:47 bnchs; in the future, we will never own things
18:47 bnchs; just subscribe to them
18:47 bnchs; subscription to a computer you don't own
18:47 DaemonFC; I remember in the 90s.
18:48 DaemonFC; Max the barber. Down the street.
18:48 bnchs; subscription to movies you don't own
18:48 DaemonFC; Max's Barber Shop
18:48 DaemonFC; He charged $5.
18:48 TR News; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163498#comment-33306
18:48 TR Bot; Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC | Tux Machines
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18:48 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, 90s
18:49 schestowitz-TR; in the 90s I paid even less
18:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, There's an entire episode of Married With Children. Al's barber dies and he goes to a salon. It's expensive and full of gays, and all of the men Al knows end up going there and they get "hairstyles".
18:49 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: they are not assured to get their way
18:49 schestowitz-TR; same for clown computing
18:49 schestowitz-TR; look at watches, tablets and other fads
18:49 schestowitz-TR; they come and go
18:49 bnchs; they'll ban ownership
18:49 schestowitz-TR; like a fashion
18:49 DaemonFC; And then Al finds out his barber's dad is still alive "and living in Cicero". "He's in his 90s but he still cuts hair!" and he turns around and there's several bald spots with bandaids on them.
18:49 bnchs; you will find black markets of computers
18:49 bnchs; that you can buy instead of subscription
18:50 TR News; OpenSSH 9.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163513
18:50 TR Bot; OpenSSH 9.0 released | Tux Machines
18:50 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163514
18:50 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:50 *psydruid has bought used computers on marktplaats.nl
18:51 DaemonFC; bnchs, I'm probably going to buy the Buick next week.
18:51 DaemonFC; Early next week.
18:51 DaemonFC; It's a 2008. No "smart" shit.
18:51 bnchs; the computers are on some guy's basement
18:51 DaemonFC; I told Roy it's probably the last car I'll ever own that works right, because it has "dials and gauges and buttons".
18:51 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: not sure, either
18:51 bnchs; you knock on his door and tell him "wheres the good stuff"
18:51 psydruid; generally cheaper than buying on its parent eBay's site, which never became a big success in this country
18:51 schestowitz-TR; there is a "counter" to that
18:51 DaemonFC; Instead of tablets that control everything and burn out and then nobody makes it anymore so no heat.
18:51 schestowitz-TR; and pushback against laws that try to impose that
18:52 schestowitz-TR; so it'll create a market of real cars
18:52 schestowitz-TR; like real banks
18:52 schestowitz-TR; for people who don't want modern where it doesn't belong and is just marketing gimmicks
18:52 schestowitz-TR; cars too
18:52 psydruid; we will still own computers
18:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I refuse to buy anything with tablets and digital gauges that need a screen.
18:52 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: they may even become cheaper
18:52 schestowitz-TR; as people leave more behind
18:52 schestowitz-TR; create an over-supply
18:53 DaemonFC; I specifically asked my mechanic if the Buick had any of that, and he said it was like close to the end of the line for when they didn't come with that.
18:53 psydruid; we will just get them from the black market a.k.a. China
18:53 psydruid; yes
18:53 DaemonFC; It was also the last year of the 3800 V6.
18:53 psydruid; I'm waiting for that crash to happen
18:53 schestowitz-TR; like I said, there's a counterculture to overuse of "tech"
18:53 schestowitz-TR; 'tech' [sic]
18:53 DaemonFC; GM introduced all new V6s in 2009 with "better gas mileage" and new transmissions, and none of it was any good.
18:53 schestowitz-TR; and it's not unabombers
18:53 schestowitz-TR; it's reasonable people
18:53 DaemonFC; Very weak transmissions, lots of engine problems.
18:53 schestowitz-TR; some of them young, too
18:53 DaemonFC; The 2008 Buick still has the 4t60e transmission on it.
18:53 schestowitz-TR; they're not THAT, gullible
18:54 schestowitz-TR; a toilet should not even "outsmart" you
18:54 DaemonFC; Very strong transmission. Most will last 300,000 miles or more trouble-free, if you just change the transmission fluid out every 60,000 miles or so.
18:54 schestowitz-TR; it's a waste of money, privacy issues aside
18:55 DaemonFC; I talked to Mandy. He says he can take the bus back home when the weather is good.
18:56 DaemonFC; Eh, it's one bus with no transfer, so $2 and don't even need a Ventra card.
18:56 DaemonFC; Car gets 17 mpg in the city, 11 miles to pick him up and come back home. Gas is $4.19 a gallon. Miles cost me like 3 cents each probably on the Buick. Just a guess.
18:57 matey; <schestowitz-TR> some of them young, too <- indeed its the young who are building cpus in their garage
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18:58 matey; maybe in the future we will buy a zpu (zeloof processing unit)
18:58 schestowitz-TR; ha
18:58 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: good to see you're not fighting much anymore
18:59 matey; he probably deserves that much credit
18:59 schestowitz-TR; I was getting worried
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 97.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 299.75
18:59 schestowitz-TR; matey: some very young people in this channel
18:59 schestowitz-TR; not young enough for gates foundation
18:59 schestowitz-TR; but a lot younger than me
18:59 matey; but if theres ever a zeloof foundation we must work together to push it into the sea
18:59 schestowitz-TR; and they GET software freedom
18:59 schestowitz-TR; one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation
18:59 schestowitz-TR; with jokes and all
19:00 schestowitz-TR; I don't quite see that
19:00 schestowitz-TR; I actually see many very senior people moaning about him
19:00 schestowitz-TR; the coup leaders
19:00 matey; one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation <- they did the same thing to ted grant, said he was old and feeble and that he pissed everyone off
19:00 matey; then they booted him out
19:00 matey; rms still comes back to ask questions after the talk
19:00 schestowitz-TR; the thing I see is that many very senior people are sceptical of tech that they did not grow up with
19:00 schestowitz-TR; they will die
19:01 schestowitz-TR; but so will people who hate RMS
19:01 schestowitz-TR; after them
19:01 matey; hes going to do his own talk witout lieplanet, i think thats great
19:01 matey; even if he wont have anything to say
19:01 schestowitz-TR; so then we can shape a perception around "NOT TOO MUCH TECH!!"
19:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Marriage sort of nudges people to resolve their arguments.
19:01 DaemonFC; Because the alternative isn't just pack up and leave. There are courts and judges and juries and shit.
19:01 DaemonFC; Expensive divorce lawyers.
19:01 DaemonFC; Disaster on both sides.
19:01 matey; then we can shape a perception around "NOT TOO MUCH TECH!!" <- open source is always ready to attack minimalism
19:02 matey; if you dont stand up to open source theres no point in promoting minimalism, they will rip it to shreds
19:02 matey; even RELATIVE minimalism
19:02 matey; like lxde as "lightweight"
19:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, It fosters an equilibrium unless things just get so bad that you're willing to do ANYTHING to leave.
19:02 DaemonFC; And that's sort of the point.
19:02 matey; It fosters an equilibrium unless things just get so bad that you're willing to do ANYTHING to leave. <- holy shit
19:03 matey; Marriage sort of nudges people to resolve their arguments. <- or bury them
19:03 matey; with petty arguments its helpful
19:03 matey; with important arguments, its like a long acting poison (unless people get out)
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19:04 matey; most people suck at resolving things so they resort to compromise
19:04 matey; and since most people suck at compromise, it ends up being lose-lose
19:04 DaemonFC; <matey> with important arguments, its like a long acting poison (unless people get out)
19:04 matey; dfc isnt wrong, but 50% of marriages still end in divorce
19:04 DaemonFC; Mom stayed married to MY DAD from 1974 to 2000.
19:04 schestowitz-TR; matey: mniamalism is not the same
19:04 schestowitz-TR; there is luddites
19:04 schestowitz-TR; that's one thing
19:04 schestowitz-TR; about labour
19:05 schestowitz-TR; there's minimalism, possession
19:05 matey; luddite is usually a misnomer / slur
19:05 schestowitz-TR; there's a lot to do with human touch and service
19:05 matey; they exist, but its a common charge against any call for sanity
19:05 schestowitz-TR; because many are extroverts
19:05 matey; thats the most common usage
19:05 schestowitz-TR; FSF is not about minimalism
19:05 schestowitz-TR; RMS is
19:05 matey; rms is not
19:05 schestowitz-TR; flying coach and stuff
19:05 DaemonFC; She let him convince her that she needed him and couldn't do better. I don't know if she COULD NOT do better, but she DID NOT do better in her next two marriages. They were both worse than my dad.
19:05 matey; oh you mean in life
19:05 matey; yes in life rms is a minimalist
19:05 matey; in gnu... not so much
19:06 schestowitz-TR; sleeping in the office etc.
19:06 DaemonFC; He never hit her and he never cheated on her and she was never having utilities cut off and no food in the house because they spent all of the money.
19:06 matey; rms should know better than to think the cpu and ram run like water
19:06 matey; when moores law has never made it so
19:06 matey; bloatware has always remained a step ahead
19:06 MinceR; rms is not about minimalism either
19:06 MinceR; emacs is not minimalist :>
19:06 matey; mincer: not with software
19:06 matey; not with software at all
19:06 matey; einm is not...
19:06 MinceR; eine
19:07 schestowitz-TR; software is different, it doesn't take materials to copy
19:07 schestowitz-TR; there's runtime bloat
19:07 schestowitz-TR; and code bloat
19:07 matey; it doesn't take materials to copy <- it does take materials to copy
19:07 MinceR; even glibc isn't minimalist
19:07 schestowitz-TR; you can have a massive program with tiny footprint
19:07 schestowitz-TR; it would just load things on demand
19:07 matey; it takes storage, it takes a computing device, it takes energy
19:07 schestowitz-TR; and allocate resources when needed
19:07 matey; when people are in here saying that js causes global warming
19:07 schestowitz-TR; matey: to produce
19:07 matey; then they turn around and pretend the same doesnt apply to gnu
19:07 DaemonFC; So he was better in that respect, and I'm absolutely certain that no amount of psychological abuse from my dad did as much damage as being beaten up by Brian.
19:07 schestowitz-TR; but you produce it only once, usually
19:07 matey; to produce <- no, to copy
19:07 matey; to download, to store, to load into ram
19:08 schestowitz-TR; it can be a large program but running on very little
19:08 DaemonFC; He only got me a couple of times and I still have PTSD from it.
19:08 matey; but you produce it only once, usually <- computers are constnatly copying information, this is an old copryright reform trope
19:08 schestowitz-TR; like wikipedia program with lots of disk space
19:08 matey; you cant have one copy of anything ont a computer
19:08 matey; it "copies" things into ram
19:08 DaemonFC; The police investigated me too after the fight, but charged him with it because there were witnesses that he threw the first punch.
19:08 matey; the thing is, bloat uses PHYSICAL resources
19:09 matey; and the more you bloat up gnu, the more shit you pile into the landfills
19:09 matey; just like with windows
19:09 DaemonFC; He gave me a concussion and kneeled on my neck and before I could pass out, I picked up a big landscaping rock and broke his hand.
19:09 schestowitz-TR; the bigger element is,
19:09 schestowitz-TR; number of machines rto produce
19:09 schestowitz-TR; JS and web 'browsers' made irt necessary to buy more beefy machines
19:09 matey; no, this is what leads to ewaste and energy waste
19:09 schestowitz-TR; which means welding and melting things
19:09 matey; theres no law that applies to windows and not to gnu
19:09 DaemonFC; It was awful. Now Roy jokes about me living in my car "again".
19:09 DaemonFC; That's why I did it the first time.
19:10 matey; Now Roy jokes about me living in my car "again" <- i wouldnt do that unless i hated someone. even then, probably not
19:10 matey; joking about someone elses extreme poverty is bad karma
19:10 matey; if you believe in karma
19:10 matey; i wouldnt joke about matt (either one) living in their car
19:10 DaemonFC; I only lived in the car a couple weeks.
19:10 matey; ok, i might. i HOPE i wouldnt
19:11 DaemonFC; I parked it out behind an abandoned bowling alley to sleep and took showers at a truck stop.
19:11 DaemonFC; It was just long enough to find an apartment.
19:11 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I didn't know your parents parted so early
19:11 matey; It was just long enough to find an apartment. <- there you go, thats almost practical
19:11 schestowitz-TR; so you had a tough up bringing
19:11 schestowitz-TR; with abusive'dad'
19:11 schestowitz-TR; hope your bother was off the hook
19:11 DaemonFC; Well, Brian was way worse than my dad.
19:12 DaemonFC; And mom was terrified he'd beat up my brother, who is 9 years younger.
19:12 DaemonFC; So she sent him to live with Grandma.
19:12 matey; hope your bother was off the hook <- abusive parents often play one sibling against the other by treating one like gold and one like shit
19:12 schestowitz-TR; matey: I don't joke about the poverty
19:12 schestowitz-TR; but about the state of the USA
19:12 DaemonFC; She enrolled him in school in Marion.
19:12 schestowitz-TR; so much capital
19:12 schestowitz-TR; and so much poverty
19:12 matey; its actually a side effect of splitting and triangulation, its usually not even conscious
19:12 schestowitz-TR; tent cities and people living in streets, cars, anything...
19:12 schestowitz-TR; while many homes remain vacant
19:12 schestowitz-TR; just to keep the "house market" "healthy" (expensive)
19:13 DaemonFC; My dad treats us both like shit. He rushed to the HR office to drop health insurance on my brother as soon as he legally could even though it wasn't costing him anything.
19:13 DaemonFC; Just to create a burden on my mom, years later, as revenge.
19:13 DaemonFC; He was trying to drop dental insurance on me, so I had to rush and get my wisdom teeth removed quickly, hours before my 18th birthday.
19:13 psydruid; > one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation
19:13 psydruid; > with jokes and all
19:13 psydruid; > I don't quite see that
19:13 psydruid; I don't see it either, all my nieces and my nephew share the same sarcastic humour we do. If I see one thing, it's that they continue the same attitudes. The world has been changed for them, so they need to deal with the new reality imposed upon them.
19:14 matey; My dad treats us both like shit <- usually the "favourite" one gets treated like shit too. but sometimes a lot is made of favouritism (the favouritism is bullshit, but it still hurts both)
19:14 DaemonFC; I have not had dental insurance since April 10th 2002.
19:14 matey; one develops an ego problem (quite often) and the other simply suffers more for it
19:14 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: RMS has some decent jokes
19:14 schestowitz-TR; sometimes he even tells them right
19:14 DaemonFC; It's just too expensive to justify it.
19:14 schestowitz-TR; when I met him he made up a new one about "mother orc, and orchid" (kid)
19:14 schestowitz-TR; which was later added to his site. stallman.org
19:15 DaemonFC; Mandy gets his subsidized by employer. I'd have to buy a private plan.
19:15 schestowitz-TR; but the culture changes
19:15 matey; "mother orc, and orchid" <- good lord thats a dreadful pun
19:15 DaemonFC; $40 a month is not worth it, then there's deductibles and spending limits, so you're still on the hook for half the costs anyway when you go to the dentist and it's something major.
19:15 schestowitz-TR; you cannot even mention the word "virgin" now
19:15 schestowitz-TR; unless it is a corporation
19:15 matey; to be fair thats the best kind.
19:15 DaemonFC; Extra Virgin Olive Oil
19:15 matey; the best puns are the ones that make people hold their nose and groan (or run away screaming)
19:15 schestowitz-TR; matey: he likes to play with words
19:16 matey; of course
19:16 schestowitz-TR; he does it in spanish and french too
19:16 schestowitz-TR; but I don't understand those
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19:16 schestowitz-TR; today I came up with rePOO
19:16 matey; /me has invented a couple words in languages hes not fluent in yet
19:16 schestowitz-TR; by accident
19:16 schestowitz-TR; SHIThub rePOO
19:16 matey; repoo works
19:16 schestowitz-TR; how many rePOOS ya' got?
19:16 schestowitz-TR; "loots of very small repoos"
19:17 DaemonFC; I do like the performance of GNOME 42.
19:17 matey; the way you test out a word in a langauge you dont know well is by trying it on someone who is fluent
19:17 schestowitz-TR; (crap developers)
19:17 DaemonFC; I can't believe just how slow GNOME 3.38 "felt".
19:17 DaemonFC; On a fast laptop, even!
19:17 matey; its like toggling machine code into a cpu
19:17 matey; you may not know what youre doing, but youll find out soon enough
19:17 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: try kde neon
19:18 schestowitz-TR; new build this past week
19:18 schestowitz-TR; 2-3 days ago
19:18 schestowitz-TR; I did full system update 1.5 days ago
19:18 schestowitz-TR; it installs the updates during reboot
19:18 schestowitz-TR; when the DE is not in vitro
19:19 DaemonFC; Yes, I have KDE on Fedora on my Yoga 900 ISK2.
19:19 DaemonFC; It works well.
19:19 schestowitz-TR; it tuns ok on 4gb of ram and 2 cores
19:19 schestowitz-TR; magnetic disk
19:19 DaemonFC; Both seem to work fine lately.
19:19 schestowitz-TR; good
19:19 schestowitz-TR; at thew shop here they ship with vista 10
19:19 schestowitz-TR; they did not get the 'memo'
19:19 schestowitz-TR; even the shops won't ship Shitta11
19:20 DaemonFC; Comcrap says I can buy a "low cost computer" with the Internet Essentials program.
19:20 matey; /me imagines its like a low cost phone
19:20 DaemonFC; A $150 laptop with 64 GB eMMC Windows "11". Woohoo! Fun times.
19:20 matey; loaded with shitware
19:20 schestowitz-TR; so you wipe it
19:20 schestowitz-TR; if you can
19:20 schestowitz-TR; probably can do
19:21 matey; its probably a rental, like the modem
19:21 schestowitz-TR; 64gb for a main PC is low though
19:21 DaemonFC; I wonder if mjg59_ knows if I can even wipe Windows 11 off that model and turn it into something decent.
19:21 schestowitz-TR; you can quickly fill that up with music
19:21 schestowitz-TR; my new one is 1tb
19:21 DaemonFC; I mean, the computer does belong to you, but his buddies have jammed up the process of salvaging the computer from Windows with a lot of steps and sometimes extra code to prevent it entirely.
19:22 matey; of course
19:22 DaemonFC; For $150 I'd probably buy it if only to run that new Crunchbang thing.
19:22 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I think one could make a business like,
19:22 schestowitz-TR; buy in bulk shitware machines
19:22 DaemonFC; The whole system only uses like 300 MB of RAM at boot.
19:22 schestowitz-TR; replace with decent kde distro
19:22 schestowitz-TR; resell
19:22 schestowitz-TR; but then not sure if there are legal issues
19:22 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure they bought some laws
19:22 schestowitz-TR; one way or another
19:22 DaemonFC; https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/crunchbang-linux-review/
19:22 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/crunchbang-linux-review/ )
19:22 DaemonFC; Crunchbang is back.
19:22 schestowitz-TR; reselling of machines
19:22 matey; decent kde distro <- a contradiction
19:22 schestowitz-TR; warranty is one aspect
19:23 schestowitz-TR; matey: i knew it would trigger ya'
19:23 matey; /me dubs it systemk
19:23 schestowitz-TR; kde is excellent... for me
19:23 schestowitz-TR; i use 3 kde laptops atm
19:23 DaemonFC; So while Windows 11 would be absolutely miserable on the Windows 11 $150 laptop undoubtedly stuffed with spyware meant for poor people who have Internet Essentials, I don't know if you can install that.
19:23 matey; "works for me" is from the windows world
19:23 schestowitz-TR; matey: but wait
19:23 schestowitz-TR; i would put it like this
19:24 schestowitz-TR; you MUST have trted several OSes
19:24 schestowitz-TR; before saying that
19:24 schestowitz-TR; "works for me"
19:24 matey; its hard for me to have strong feelings about kde when i havent used it in years
19:24 schestowitz-TR; in my case, I have 4 DEs running
19:24 schestowitz-TR; and over the years I used more than a dozen
19:24 matey; but i dont need to have strong feelings about it to know its more of a burden to free software than a help
19:24 schestowitz-TR; with Windows, they only compare VERSIONS
19:24 schestowitz-TR; or compare that to DOS
19:24 matey; or that the developers dont care
19:25 DaemonFC; That would be a decent salvage job though. Internet Essentials gives me a $160 discount vs. buying it from Dell. If I could preload a GNU/Linux distro, I could probably flip it on eBay and get more than I bought it from Comcast for.
19:25 matey; basically id like to focus on software that helps the movement at this point
19:25 matey; since theres SO MUCH that doesnt
19:25 schestowitz-TR; sso shill valce
19:25 schestowitz-TR; the valve movement
19:25 schestowitz-TR; ask bryant for info
19:25 schestowitz-TR; formerly 'the linux gamer'
19:25 schestowitz-TR; now full time drm
19:26 schestowitz-TR; I'm ok with some steam
19:26 schestowitz-TR; not for me
19:26 schestowitz-TR; but he devotes his whole time to shilling it
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19:26 schestowitz-TR; and i'm quite sure they pay him to do it
19:26 schestowitz-TR; even windows videos!!
19:26 matey; probably
19:26 schestowitz-TR; the open source movement!
19:26 matey; ugh
19:26 schestowitz-TR; johns responded
19:26 schestowitz-TR; you said
19:26 schestowitz-TR; in boston
19:26 schestowitz-TR; the home of the open source movement
19:26 schestowitz-TR; btw
19:27 schestowitz-TR; johns and osi conspired against rms, or maybe fsfe
19:27 schestowitz-TR; johns should know better
19:27 schestowitz-TR; oh, wait
19:27 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's another story
19:27 DaemonFC; Dell considers it a laptop for education, and actually says "Lesson Learned" on their website. Yes, if you get a Windows computer with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB of storage, there's a lesson to be learned there.
19:27 matey; johns and osi conspired against rms, or maybe fsfe <- this is what i was told by insiders
19:27 schestowitz-TR; johns is not phipps (osi) and fsfe
19:27 psydruid; the open sores movement will be transformative
19:27 matey; people inside the fsf
19:27 schestowitz-TR; does osi release ANY code?
19:28 psydruid; open pores will be turned into open sores
19:28 schestowitz-TR; I know they use some helios thing for voting
19:28 schestowitz-TR; but afaik they made no fixes or improvements to it
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19:28 schestowitz-TR; osi is not coders
19:28 schestowitz-TR; it's more like the "use the source, luke" crowd
19:28 schestowitz-TR; eating popcorn and picking money from BOTH Microosft AND GitHub
19:28 schestowitz-TR; both hands
19:29 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/
19:29 schestowitz; popcorn
19:29 TR Bot; Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights
19:29 schestowitz; with CHEESE on it
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19:29 psydruid; it's the NPC crowd
19:29 schestowitz; haha, yes
19:29 DaemonFC; GNOME now supports the UEFI power and performance modes.
19:29 schestowitz; "go open source!"
19:29 schestowitz; "cancel RMS"
19:29 DaemonFC; So I can set my laptop to prefer maximum battery life or maximum performance, like you can on Windows.
19:30 schestowitz; kde has this too
19:30 schestowitz; i remember the kde3 energy savings panel
19:30 schestowitz; with the logos of energy modes
19:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Mandy asked how many people are running for Governor.
19:30 schestowitz; those were very simplistic
19:30 DaemonFC; I said "About a dozen at this point. The primary voting doesn't even start for a month.".
19:31 schestowitz; we have voting herer soon
19:31 DaemonFC; He says, "Then how come I only see Pritzker ads everywhere on YouTube?".
19:31 schestowitz; localelection
19:31 DaemonFC; I said, "He's a hotel billionaire.".
19:31 schestowitz; so we gotr a ton of spam in the post
19:31 DaemonFC; He says, "None of the others are advertising on YouTube?".
19:31 DaemonFC; I said, "Pritzker is a hotel billionaire and they aren't.".
19:31 DaemonFC; He asked, "So who are you going to vote for?".
19:31 schestowitz; some people vote for "who they know"
19:32 schestowitz; sadly, who they "know" is
19:32 schestowitz; the one media mentioned
19:32 schestowitz; aht eone ads mentiuon
19:32 DaemonFC; I said, "Oh probably that guy that was on the Board of Directors for Metra.".
19:32 schestowitz; and since media and ads become more of the same
19:32 schestowitz; that just means the vote can be bought more or less
19:32 DaemonFC; Not necessarily.
19:32 DaemonFC; He spent a lot of money propping up the "Progressive Income Tax" amendment.
19:32 *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@zqx6uwig3c8cc.irc) has joined #techrights
19:32 schestowitz; here we had some JW-like people
19:32 DaemonFC; And it failed.
19:32 schestowitz; knocking on the door
19:32 schestowitz; to promote libdems
19:32 schestowitz; during corona
19:33 schestowitz; knocking on your door
19:33 DaemonFC; There were ads everywhere telling people that most people would get lower taxes, and the measure still failed.
19:33 DaemonFC; Illinois Policy Institute was the main opposition and ran ads showing what happened when other states did a progressive tax and sold it as a "tax cut for most people".
19:34 DaemonFC; Like Connecticut, where all rates went up higher than the former flat tax was, and some brackets are even more than double what the flat tax was.
19:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Nothing in the amendment said what the rates would be if it passed.
19:35 DaemonFC; The law that would have gone into effect made the lowest bracket 4.85% up to $10,000 of income. The flat tax rate on everyone right now is 4.95%.
19:36 DaemonFC; So it would have saved us less than $20 over the entire year.
19:36 DaemonFC; But it was something, so they could legally say "Most people see the same or lower taxes."
19:37 DaemonFC; I still voted yes on it even though I don't agree with the idea.
19:37 DaemonFC; People like Mark and Maricel should pay higher tax rates.
19:37 DaemonFC; Because if they don't, then the state will raise some other taxes instead, and I do pay those taxes.
19:38 DaemonFC; If Mark and Maricel make almost 10 times what we do and can't figure out how not to be in debt and how to pay the state tax department, that's their fault.
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19:44 TR News; EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515
19:44 TR Bot; EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines
19:45 TR News; 37 open-source free EPUB e-book viewers and readers for Windows, Linux, macOS, and Mobile. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163516
19:45 TR Bot; 37 open-source free EPUB e-book viewers and readers for Windows, Linux, macOS, and Mobile. | Tux Machines
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19:49 DaemonFC; Well, there's my answer to whether you can easily add a supercharger to the 3800 in the Buick and make it perform more like the Grand Prix GTP.
19:49 DaemonFC; The answer is, you _can_ modify it to be supercharged, but you really won't want to after you find out the cost.
19:50 DaemonFC; The kit alone is $1,700 and if you need a mechanic to do it you can probably add over $1,000 in labor too.
19:51 DaemonFC; Hmm, book says 4-5 hours.
19:51 DaemonFC; My mechanic charges $150 per labor hour.
19:51 DaemonFC; So $600-750 in labor + a $1,700 kit.
19:51 DaemonFC; But I could turn it into a muscle car that looks like a late model Buick.
19:52 TR News; "OpenDocMan is released under the open-source GPL license." https://medevel.com/opendocman/
19:52 Alternative link; CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/opendocman/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/opendocman/
19:52 TR Bot; OpenDocMan is an open-Source Document Management System (DMS) for enterprise
19:52 DaemonFC; Another downside is that to keep it from knocking, you have to run it on premium gasoline at that point, like a sports car.
19:52 DaemonFC; So add about 50 cents per gallon for gas.
19:54 DaemonFC; If I could just bolt on a supercharger and be out the door, I'd probably do it.
19:54 *psydruid starts the cure open sores movement
19:54 DaemonFC; But this involves a partial engine rebuild, some new sensors, and new fuel injection setup.
19:54 DaemonFC; :(
19:54 DaemonFC; Sad.
19:55 DaemonFC; Man, if they put a 350 horsepower engine in a Buick from the factory....Well, actually, they do now.
19:55 DaemonFC; So you could do this even as a backport to a 3800 V6, but it's going to cost you a third of what you paid for the car.
19:55 TR News; How I set up my data and backup strategy as a Linux user Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163517
19:55 TR Bot; How I set up my data and backup strategy as a Linux user | Tux Machines
19:56 DaemonFC; Plus, they have to reflash the PCM.
19:56 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3nPiBai66M
19:56 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=n3nPiBai66M
19:56 DaemonFC; Because the engine is going to need different shifting points from the transmission to deal with the fact that it's completely overpowered for the car now.
19:56 TR Bot; y.com.sb | The Cure - Just Like Heaven - Invidious
19:57 schestowitz-TR; hmm... those vevo videos and covert drm ones invidious struggles with
19:57 schestowitz-TR; also all the official football ones
19:58 schestowitz-TR; or maybe some instances cope
19:58 schestowitz-TR; some cannot
19:58 schestowitz; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=yUHzXd3Vb_0
19:58 TR Bot; T H E. C U R E Best Songs Playlist - Greatest Hits Full Album 2021 Of T H E. C U R E - Invidious
19:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I suppose I'll just leave it at 200 Horsepower.
19:59 DaemonFC; People who get cars with over 300 HP start racking up lots of speeding tickets.
19:59 bnchs; schestowitz, downloading works
19:59 DaemonFC; Because they're just so fun to drive that you don't even notice you're going that fast.
19:59 TR News; xkcd: Frankenstein Captcha https://xkcd.com/2604/ Source: xkcd
19:59 TR Bot; Frankenstein Captcha
19:59 Alternative link; CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2604/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2604/
19:59 DaemonFC; It also puts a lot of stress on the engine and makes it less reliable.
19:59 DaemonFC; Who needs that?
19:59 DaemonFC; And gas is already plenty expensive.
20:00 TR News; How about leveraging EXISTING laws to detain, prosecute and arrest Microsoft managers? https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/
20:00 Alternative link; CloudFlare: project-disco.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/
20:00 TR Bot; The Prohibiting Anticompetitive Mergers Act - A Radical and Duplicative Bill - Disruptive Competition Project
20:01 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: enjoy
20:01 schestowitz-TR; don't put that on the clown
20:01 schestowitz-TR; apple scans hashes for copyrioght hodlers
20:01 schestowitz-TR; oh wait
20:01 schestowitz-TR; sorry
20:02 schestowitz-TR; we're still in 2022
20:02 schestowitz-TR; wait til 2023
20:02 schestowitz-TR; then it won't be "for the children"
20:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The lady who helped me get a technician out from Comcast also lives in Illinois.
20:02 schestowitz-TR; ILL-hanoi
20:02 DaemonFC; She asked if I was interested in a low cost computer. I gave her a miniature Stallman-like speech.
20:03 schestowitz-TR; "freedom zero is the.."
20:04 DaemonFC; I said, "No, and mostly because it comes with Windows and I don't know if I could remove it easily and replace it with GNU/Linux, since some manufacturers prevent that now. I can't really use Windows because it would be too slow on a modest PC like that and because Windows is spyware that I really don't want to have in my house, and the less you pay for a Windows license, the less of the spyware they allow you to turn off.".
20:04 schestowitz; wow, they STILL perform! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cure
20:04 TR Bot; The Cure - Wikipedia
20:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Most of the telemetry can be disabled, but only in the "Enterprise" edition and only on the Long Term Stable Channel.
20:05 DaemonFC; So, like, if you run any other version you're basically stuck with all of the spyware and the really weird bugs that businesses will pay more to avoid.
20:06 DaemonFC; And they also don't turn on advertising or install crapware, or even the Windows Store at all, in the LTSC.
20:06 DaemonFC; So when you use a cheaper license, you pay with the ads, the spyware, and the bugs, which it will self-report to Microsoft so they can fix them before they go out to their important clients.
20:07 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: they should pass laws to ban thos
20:07 schestowitz-TR; like they do with phone locking
20:07 DaemonFC; And you have no control over what's in the reports. Even if it is just a bug report, when something crashes, it could be your web browser, and the crash dump could have sensitive or embarrassing information in it, even if you are not using Edge, which already reports EVERYTHING you do on the Web.
20:07 schestowitz-TR; I forget the term they use for that all the time... as I don't buy these
20:07 schestowitz-TR; not locking
20:08 schestowitz-TR; network something
20:08 schestowitz-TR; it should be banned
20:08 schestowitz-TR; they also started standardising the charging adapters and ports
20:08 schestowitz-TR; with penalties for not complying IIRC
20:08 schestowitz-TR; Apple is notorious for this
20:08 DaemonFC; So Windows is a RAT. It's a police informant, so a "rat" in the slang sense, but also a RAT in the acronym for malware. It is a Remote Access Trojan.
20:08 schestowitz-TR; and their adapters aren't even of decent quality
20:09 schestowitz-TR; so they get a monopoly on spares
20:09 DaemonFC; It allows Microsoft to get in and do whatever they want, and it reports things back to them to be analyzed.
20:09 schestowitz-TR; yes, I was gonna say RAT last week
20:09 schestowitz-TR; but worried some would think I call Microsoft a "rot"
20:09 schestowitz-TR; "rat"
20:09 schestowitz-TR; it's also slant
20:09 schestowitz-TR; *slang
20:09 schestowitz-TR; 3 meanings
20:09 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is a RAT
20:09 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman points out that Android is "less bad" than Apple in the sense that you can at least use packages, or F-Droid.
20:09 schestowitz-TR; it's a rat (slang)
20:10 schestowitz-TR; and some of them are acting like literal rats
20:10 DaemonFC; But he still mentions Google has a universal backdoor in the Play Store and can change the firmware however it wants.
20:10 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: among other things
20:10 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights
20:10 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: that downplays it
20:10 schestowitz-TR; the network has a back door
20:10 schestowitz-TR; the state
20:10 schestowitz-TR; some "apps" do
20:10 schestowitz-TR; the store
20:11 schestowitz-TR; and gulag auto-updates
20:11 schestowitz-TR; "OTA"
20:11 schestowitz-TR; it's virtually impossible to secure any "modern" 'smart' phone
20:11 schestowitz-TR; librem is an attempt at that
20:11 schestowitz-TR; and now they upsell 'ethical' carriers
20:11 schestowitz-TR; that don't collect data, they say
20:11 schestowitz-TR; but they use towers not maintained and controlled by them
20:12 schestowitz-TR; and if you have a phone # the state will know what you are up to regardless
20:12 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/proposed-gas-pump-signage-requirement-for-illinois-drawing-criticism/ < MinceR pointed out in Hungary how thick the power bills are explaining how much the state propped up the electric company to "save" you on the electric.
20:12 TR Bot; Proposed gas pump signage requirement for Illinois drawing criticism | WGN-TV
20:13 DaemonFC; Now Illinois wants to make gas stations put up signage that says the Democrats voted to suspend an automatic gas tax hike for 6 months.
20:13 TR News; GNU/Linux for 'fixing' malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-windows-mbr-from-ubuntu/
20:13 TR Bot; How to Fix Windows MBR from Ubuntu - Make Tech Easier
20:13 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: we are like you, in the protesting sense
20:13 DaemonFC; They didn't save you 6 cents per gallon. They just postponed their own automatic tax hike.
20:13 schestowitz-TR; I fought for hours over the phone with them
20:13 schestowitz-TR; they even compensated me at one point
20:13 schestowitz-TR; for poor service
20:14 schestowitz-TR; but we minimise energy use
20:14 schestowitz-TR; I moved back to shavers, dry shave
20:14 DaemonFC; The electric company? Well, it has been reliable at least.
20:14 schestowitz-TR; and no heating, ever
20:14 DaemonFC; I haven't had any power outages in Illinois that went on longer than about 10 minutes. And only about 4-5 outages in the last 6 years.
20:15 schestowitz-TR; we used to pay less than 10 per month for gas
20:15 schestowitz-TR; now it's a noticeable chunk
20:15 DaemonFC; In Indiana, sometimes the power goes down and the outage lasts hours or even a day.
20:15 schestowitz-TR; here we have almost nonse
20:15 schestowitz-TR; in a decade
20:15 schestowitz-TR; depending where you live obv.
20:15 schestowitz-TR; *none
20:15 schestowitz-TR; the power cuts here are your own fuses going off
20:15 DaemonFC; If you live in Indiana, you know to get a UPS for the computer and keep some power banks charged to keep your phone going.
20:16 schestowitz-TR; bad appliances and surges
20:16 DaemonFC; One time I had to leave my phone charging off my car for a while because didn't have a power bank.
20:16 schestowitz-TR; manchester is (still) very high value for money
20:18 schestowitz-TR; I reckon the US barely has any cities in top of favoured to live in
20:18 schestowitz-TR; unless polled by some American think tank
20:18 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_livable_cities
20:18 TR Bot; Most livable cities - Wikipedia
20:19 schestowitz; 1Auckland New Zealand
20:19 schestowitz; 2Osaka Japan
20:19 schestowitz; 3Adelaide Australia
20:19 schestowitz; 4Wellington New Zealand
20:19 schestowitz; 5Tokyo Japan
20:19 schestowitz; 6Perth Australia
20:19 schestowitz; 7Zurich Switzerland
20:19 schestowitz; 8Geneva Switzerland
20:19 schestowitz; 9Melbourne Australia
20:19 schestowitz; 10Brisbane Australia
20:19 schestowitz; Osaka?
20:19 schestowitz; As I expected, US is hardly listed
20:20 psydruid; Boston in the top 20 perhaps?
20:20 psydruid; or Ann Arbor?
20:20 schestowitz; gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/24/Netherlands-update.gmi
20:21 schestowitz; "Little things no one here even thinks about have left an impression on me, too. I see street cleaners out all of the time, in a little squad where workers use leaf blowers and brooms to sweep trash and dirt from the sidewalks and squares into the streets where sweepers come through to pick it up. The trash and recycling bins are regularly collected, and when one of them in my neighborhood broke, it was replaced within days. There are some areas
20:21 schestowitz; where trash does tend to accumulate, though, such as near benches in parks."
20:22 schestowitz; "The infamous Dutch bureaucracy is not as bad as people made it out to be. Going through the immigration process was pretty stressful as any process which could end with being kicked out of the country might be but it was actually fairly straightforward for the kind of visa I wanted to get. Public servants here are more helpful and flexible than their reputation suggests."
20:22 schestowitz; (Ariadne is moving there)
20:22 schestowitz; "I could go on experiences outside of Amsterdam and throughout the rest of Europe, the vibes of the FOSS community and other communities Ive met, serendipitously meeting people I knew in America who also moved to Europe, and so on but I think Ill stop here for this post. Every time Ive paused to reflect on my relocation abroad, Ive come away smiling. "
20:24 TR News; University of Tokyo Japanese Banana Peeling https://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2022/03/26-robot-peels-banana.htm
20:24 TR Bot; Robot peels banana with deep learning
20:25 TR News; The Apollo release has landed EndeavourOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515#comment-33307
20:25 TR Bot; EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines
20:26 TR News; "We chat about Wyze's recent real bad, no-good security news, why Plex Discover has potential but hasn't impressed us yet, and a brief tour of Alex's home network setup." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/
20:26 Alternative link; CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/
20:26 TR Bot; Unwyze Choices | Self-Hosted 68 | Jupiter Broadcasting
20:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I think English sounds more deliberately paced than Tagalog or many other languages in that part of the world.
20:27 DaemonFC; Like, they barely take any time to sound out the words.
20:27 schestowitz; psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19
20:27 Alternative link; CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19
20:27 TR Bot; SEV-SNP Appears Ready For Upstreaming In Linux 5.19 - Phoronix
20:27 schestowitz; too many cpus
20:27 schestowitz; he doesn't know what to do with em anymo'...
20:27 psydruid; run an international cryptocurrency mafia
20:28 DaemonFC; Whenever Mandy has me repeat something he laughs because he says he thinks Tagalog spoken by someone with a "Midwestern US" English accent is funny.
20:28 TR News; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library: Add ATS-M pci-ids https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=48620101414449c3545d4d998dc0606eb04e1467 Source: cgit
20:28 TR Bot; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)
20:28 DaemonFC; I noticed that on Doctor Who, btw. I'm like "How are there that many accents in the UK? It's not that big.".
20:29 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: it's mised up
20:29 schestowitz-TR; big cities have a mixture
20:29 schestowitz-TR; and more "outsiders" too
20:30 schestowitz-TR; accents are not only regional
20:30 schestowitz-TR; but class statements
20:30 schestowitz-TR; like "black dialect" in USAS
20:30 schestowitz-TR; *USA
20:30 schestowitz-TR; I can do all sorts of accidentgs
20:30 schestowitz-TR; *accents too
20:30 schestowitz-TR; by accident
20:30 DaemonFC; The UK land area, total, is like about Illinois and Indiana combined.
20:30 schestowitz-TR; most here can too
20:30 schestowitz-TR; they can do american access as a joke
20:31 DaemonFC; It's hard to believe it was ever an empire with what's left of it.
20:31 schestowitz-TR; but wait
20:31 schestowitz-TR; UK is still dominant
20:31 DaemonFC; People from Indiana and Illinois mostly sound the same.
20:31 schestowitz-TR; but the colonies are not directly dependent on the queen now
20:31 DaemonFC; They're not colonies anymore.
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20:32 DaemonFC; And the queen is ceremonial and technically a separate "sovereign" in each.
20:32 schestowitz-TR; canada, nz, australia, even places like singapore have a chunk dependent, never mind the many small islands like gibraltar, Falklands...
20:32 DaemonFC; And the legal systems no longer allow appeals to the UK court system.
20:32 DaemonFC; So pretty much the legacy ties are severed.
20:32 schestowitz-TR; yes, but the culture got copied
20:32 schestowitz-TR; why do you think mandy's country is christian?
20:33 DaemonFC; They're not exactly Christian.
20:33 schestowitz-TR; the colonialism is less direct
20:33 schestowitz-TR; lots of french influence in western africa too
20:33 DaemonFC; I mean, the biggest chunk are Catholics, which are not well accepted even in much of the US to this day.
20:33 schestowitz-TR; bnchs probably can speak french
20:33 DaemonFC; I mean, they're more tolerated where I'm from than accepted.
20:33 DaemonFC; And that's Christianity, sure.
20:33 DaemonFC; But they're not all Catholics.
20:34 DaemonFC; They have some home grown crazy like Iglesia that goes back further than major outside interference.
20:34 DaemonFC; Certainly from us.
20:35 DaemonFC; Iglesia is in the United States now and it tries to recruit white people to claim it's not just some thing from the Philippines and only foreigners go there. If you're white and you go inside one of their churches, you're a curiosity.
20:35 TR News; Pure spam, garbage, webspam with googlebombing/SEO (like OS name-dropping) https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/ betanews is like that: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/
20:35 Alternative link; CloudFlare: betanews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/
20:35 TR Bot; Sonnet launches Allegro Pro USB-C 8-Port PCIe card for Mac, Windows, and Linux
20:35 TR Bot; The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights
20:35 DaemonFC; You instantly have hundreds of people paying attention, you know.
20:35 DaemonFC; It's a cult.
20:35 DaemonFC; Most of the people in the cult are nice enough, but it's a cult.
20:36 DaemonFC; They specifically reject many of the fundamental core principles of Christianity, both Catholic and Protestant.
20:36 DaemonFC; They arrange to have people murdered.
20:36 TR News; So-called 'news' sites have warped into active participants in the elaborate scam/spam industry, usually without any disclosure at all
20:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Telling an immigration agent in the US that if you are deported, you may be killed by Iglesia in the Philippines is sufficient grounds for asylum.
20:37 DaemonFC; Cases get approved on that, you know.
20:37 schestowitz-TR; "julio will kill me..'
20:37 DaemonFC; It's considered an extremist group.
20:37 DaemonFC; Although they operate openly here.
20:38 DaemonFC; It's like we can't stop you, but we're watching you.
20:38 DaemonFC; Like those Mosques with the "Death to America" people.
20:38 DaemonFC; You know, there's certainly some in the US. The FBI watches them.
20:38 TR News; Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Weekly News #256 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-256/
20:38 TR Bot; Full Circle Weekly News #256 | Full Circle Magazine
20:39 DaemonFC; Well, Stallman told us his view of the state, schestowitz-TR
20:39 DaemonFC; And I think he's very very very wrong about it.
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20:40 DaemonFC; He said.... "To do its job the state must be very powerful, but to keep it from abusing that power, you have to have a democracy, and a democracy cannot function with mass surveillance."
20:40 DaemonFC; But he has the order wrong.
20:40 DaemonFC; To prevent a surveillance state and retain a democracy, you need to prevent the state from gathering so much power in the first place, or else you lose. Probably forever.
20:41 DaemonFC; The state only has a few legitimate jobs, and even with basically unchecked power, it has no intent to perform any of those right now, and it's getting worse.
20:42 TR News; Maui Shell Alpha Linux OS for phones and desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163342#comment-33308
20:42 TR Bot; MAUI Shell First Alpha Release is here with Significant Finished Work | Tux Machines
20:42 DaemonFC; The job of the state is to protect the common welfare of its citizens, such as by preventing labor exploitation, preventing environmental destruction, and maintaining good education and infrastructure systems, enforcing the rule of civil and criminal law, and a few other things along those lines.
20:44 DaemonFC; But what we have in America are a few rich bastards with very nearly all of the money, and self-serving ignorant entitled pieces of shit in Congress, which are their pets, who are throwing around money that they have misappropriated from the lower classes, to the rich (including themselves), while at the same time we live under a total surveillance state with fewer and fewer civil rights, worsening environmental conditions, bad infrastructure,
20:44 DaemonFC; and high schools that do worse at educating children in 12 years than what a 7th grade educational level was in the 1990s.
20:44 DaemonFC; The very concept of public service is completely gone.
20:45 DaemonFC; The public can vote, but the system is so bad that even millions and millions of voters have little or no influence on public policy since about 1998.
20:45 DaemonFC; A state like this is too dangerous to have power like Stallman says a state should have.
20:45 bnchs; <schestowitz-TR> bnchs probably can speak french
20:46 bnchs; because we speak it as a somewhat-primary language
20:46 bnchs; maybe secondary
20:46 DaemonFC; The United States is pretty much falling apart, and a big problem is ironically the tech industry.
20:47 DaemonFC; The government doesn't even annoy the rich anymore.
20:48 DaemonFC; It doesn't make them pay a fair amount of tax. When it spends, it all goes to them somehow. Comcast doing the $10 a month Internet is getting anotehr $30 a month from the federal government.
20:48 DaemonFC; So they're perfectly happy to participate in this program.
20:49 DaemonFC; The government didn't do what it ought to have done, which is to say "You have service area monopolies. If you want to keep them, you will provide $9.95 internet to people at these income levels or else we will break you up into competing factions.".
20:49 psydruid; very liberal.chat network where you get banned from channels for "wrongspeak"
20:49 DaemonFC; Libera Chat has banned me a few times.
20:50 *psydruid parle franais assez couramment
20:50 psydruid; yes, it's a misnomer
20:50 DaemonFC; I keep coming back because the bans are basically impossible to enforce.
20:51 DaemonFC; When there's a VPN with over 10,000 servers.
20:51 DaemonFC; Plus there's Matrix bridge.
20:51 DaemonFC; They can't stop you short of shutting off the entire bridge.
20:52 DaemonFC; Every time they ban a burner account you only use for IRC, make another account.
20:52 DaemonFC; Matrix.org got tired of banning me and stopped doing it.
20:52 bnchs; DaemonFC, geez i wonder why
20:52 DaemonFC; I can pretty much do whatever I want now.
20:53 DaemonFC; The moderators just overlook it.
20:53 psydruid; all these SJW-infested networks really annoy me
20:55 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: sop you are fluent at 3 times more langs than an average american
20:56 DaemonFC; I just don't learn Spanish because if they want to speak to me, they can speak English.
20:57 DaemonFC; It's bad enough half of the Mexicans here are illegal and on welfare and causing hit and run accidents.
20:57 DaemonFC; The least they can do while they're breaking our laws is speak my language.
20:57 DaemonFC; This attitude is not at all uncommon among the French.
20:58 DaemonFC; They're sick and tired of being mugged at knifepoint by foreign invaders who won't even learn French.
20:58 DaemonFC; Apparently what makes Europe legitimate in their own minds is they stole it longer ago than they stole the former colonies here.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 149.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 370.11
20:59 DaemonFC; They're still sore that we threw their stinking tea into our American harbor and brewed some beer.
20:59 DaemonFC; Because we don't like tea. We like coffee! And we don't like wine! We like beer!
21:00 DaemonFC; If anything, I think by drink preferences we're closer to Germans than the British at this point.
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21:01 DaemonFC; But I mean, lots of things change over the years.
21:01 DaemonFC; The US has gotten wave after wave of immigrants.
21:01 DaemonFC; The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was an unmitigated disaster.
21:02 DaemonFC; Instead of Diverity Visa Lotteries where we just scoop up random people who didn't do anything in their own country except crime and taking up space, we should get rid of that and go easier on marriage green cards and people who are staying out of trouble and working.
21:03 DaemonFC; This attitude is pretty common in Canada. They don't even have as permissive an immigration system as we do.
21:03 DaemonFC; Theirs is already harsher than the one Trump wanted.
21:03 schestowitz-TR; now we ar etotallyh off topic
21:03 DaemonFC; And Canada's atrocities and genocides and climate denialism and Nazi movements and stuff are all over the news lately.
21:04 DaemonFC; So like, they project. The French, the British, the Canadians. All of the nasty shit they did or do, they project on us.
21:04 DaemonFC; The French and British have nuclear weapons. You never hear about it.
21:05 DaemonFC; None of them have rejected nuclear weapons and dismantled them. They have about the same size of stockpile as they did in 1990 while the US has destroyed over 90% of its own.
21:05 DaemonFC; And the UK is about to pass a "crime bill" that makes the most racist and horrible thing the federal government in the US has done in the last 50 years look mild.
21:06 DaemonFC; In many ways, they're ahead of us because they were decaying and becoming failed states faster.
21:06 bnchs; off-topic?
21:06 DaemonFC; If you dug up Margaret Thatcher today, she'd be in Labour.
21:07 DaemonFC; That's how far right they've gone. Back in her day, the left was still calling itself a Socialist Workers movement.
21:07 DaemonFC; I mean holy shit.
21:08 TR News; Taking GNU/Linux For Granted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UOjLhfvW8w
21:08 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2UOjLhfvW8w
21:08 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Are We Taking Linux For Granted? - Invidious
21:08 DaemonFC; The Falklands War, which Roy mentioned the other day, was a death rattle, the tail wagging the dog, and clutching at pearls.
21:09 DaemonFC; It was the nation state version of a gigantic midlife crisis.
21:09 TR News; Introducing the Movin On Up A Little Higher Series - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/introducing-the-movin-on-up-a-little-higher-series/ Source: publicknowledge
21:09 TR Bot; Introducing the Movin On Up A Little Higher Series - Public Knowledge
21:09 TR News; This Week in GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163518
21:09 TR Bot; This Week in GNOME | Tux Machines
21:09 MinceR; 08 220654 < DaemonFC> If you dug up Margaret Thatcher today, she'd be in Labour.
21:09 MinceR; she's pregnant? :>
21:09 DaemonFC; You know, people in their 40s realize it's all slipping away from them and then they go and do something dumb like financing a $50,000 motorcycle.
21:10 bnchs; >"linux users are spolied"
21:10 bnchs; i mean you see newcomers
21:10 DaemonFC; I've accepted the fact that I'll die someday.
21:10 bnchs; saying "why does adobe not work on linux"
21:10 DaemonFC; Many people can't cope with it all at once.
21:10 bnchs; as if it's gnu/linux's fault
21:10 DaemonFC; I have no need for a midlife crisis because I realized early on that I'd die and so there was no point getting all worked up about it.
21:11 DaemonFC; I'm not that special and the universe will continue for billions of years after I'm gone.
21:11 DaemonFC; It helps to just figure you're here "for a time" and be done with it.
21:11 psydruid; > I just don't learn Spanish because if they want to speak to me, they can speak English.
21:11 psydruid; I learned it because I went to Spain quite a few times, but younger people there generally also speak English
21:11 bnchs; just looking at the comments
21:12 bnchs; "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel. Companies spent much money to get rid of GPL licensed user space."
21:12 DaemonFC; <bnchs> "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel. Companies spent much money to get rid of GPL licensed user space."
21:12 MinceR; fixed question: "why does adobe not work"
21:12 MinceR; because they don't have any engineers
21:12 DaemonFC; Not that much compared to the Linux kernel.
21:12 bnchs; you can't change (the license) because then you've to ask all the developers
21:12 MinceR; they shovel some shit together and sell it
21:12 psydruid; > saying "why does adobe not work on linux"
21:12 psydruid; adobe DOES not work with Linux, because adobe doesn't want to work with Linux and we don't want it to work with Linux
21:12 MinceR; they couldn't put a sane pdf renderer together
21:13 bnchs; psydruid, adobe is like epic gaymes
21:13 MinceR; they couldn't put a sane video player together
21:13 bnchs; they port for windows and mac
21:13 DaemonFC; There's nothing appropriate to replace the Linux kernel with unless you are only running it on a PC or a phone or something.
21:13 bnchs; and avoid gnu/linux
21:13 MinceR; they couldn't even figure out how to render vector graphics in a way that is not laughably sluggish
21:13 MinceR; they also couldn't figure out a logical UI for a photo editor
21:13 DaemonFC; Linux is likely to be around in 100 years in some form or another.
21:13 DaemonFC; It just doesn't make financial sense to start over.
21:13 MinceR; broadcast as electromagnetic waves before humanity offed itself?
21:13 DaemonFC; And since nobody is suing over GPL enforcement anyway, what is the incentive?
21:14 bnchs; MinceR, when i used photoshop for the first time
21:14 bnchs; there were tons of fucking buttons
21:14 bnchs; and tools
21:14 bnchs; and NO way to draw even a circle without jumping through more hoops than GIMP
21:14 MinceR; not only that
21:14 MinceR; but also the filters are randomly scattered around the menu
21:15 MinceR; and if you maximize the window in which the photo is, it goes _under_ your tools
21:15 MinceR; good luck seeing what you're doing.
21:15 bnchs; i remember looking up tutorials for how to draw
21:15 bnchs; in photoshop
21:15 TR News; Compulab incorporates the NXP i.MX8M-Plus SoC to their SO-DIMM flexible design Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163519
21:15 TR Bot; Compulab incorporates the NXP i.MX8M-Plus SoC to their SO-DIMM flexible design | Tux Machines
21:15 bnchs; how to use the brush
21:16 bnchs; i liked GIMP because it was easier to use
21:17 schestowitz-TR; gimp has an irc network
21:17 schestowitz-TR; you get it free
21:17 schestowitz-TR; and you get free'support'
21:18 schestowitz-TR; adobe gets people addicted
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and then charges a lot
21:18 schestowitz-TR; no support
21:18 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163520
21:18 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:18 MinceR; gimp has far better UI and doesn't lock the user into a shitty OS or a fucked up subscription model
21:19 bnchs; yeah thats what i liked GIMP for
21:19 bnchs; the UI was much better than photoshop
21:19 bnchs; and i used it alot
21:20 bnchs; it has scripting aswell
21:23 TR News; Breaking Things at Work: The Luddites Were Right About Why You Hate Your Job gemini://beyondneolithic.life/mueller_archive/breaking_things_at_work/index.gmi "Most of the technologies involved in automation had been developed and implemented in other industries years before their incorporation into Ford's production process"
21:24 TR News; "sharing is caring, and I care about all of you out there in the smol internet." gemini://november.smol.pub/cursed-tech-thought
21:24 TR News; "Web browsers, and the modern web in general, are bloated. [citation needed] A lot of people are trying to get away from that, whether it be with the smol web, a return to Gopher, the invention of Gemini, or what have you." gemini://november.smol.pub/cursed-tech-thought
21:25 psydruid; GIMP has always been as good as Adobe Photoshop 5.x
21:25 TR News; "Just a little while ago I happened to be glancing at this server's NGINX logs and noticed some obviously malicious requests resulting in 404s. Here is one of them." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry?52
21:25 psydruid; they just like moving the goalposts with every release
21:25 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Taking Linux For Granted, Full Circle Magazine, and Self-Hosted 68 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163521
21:25 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Taking Linux For Granted, Full Circle Magazine, and Self-Hosted 68 | Tux Machines
21:26 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: isn't it becoming clown with subscription? to fake beaing cheap?
21:27 DaemonFC; Only rich people could afford a car before Ford.
21:27 DaemonFC; Any car.
21:28 DaemonFC; He'd be appalled at the way they're running the business today.
21:28 schestowitz-TR; horses last longer
21:28 schestowitz-TR; repairs is bets
21:28 schestowitz-TR; *vets
21:28 schestowitz-TR; but horses don't carry around the kids
21:28 schestowitz-TR; unless you abuse them with carriages and stuff
21:29 schestowitz-TR; today, most people seem to drive on their own
21:29 schestowitz-TR; here at least
21:29 schestowitz-TR; so it's one ton for 70kg person
21:29 schestowitz-TR; very wasteful
21:29 DaemonFC; What we need is for someone to start making affordable practical cars again, but that's unlikely since the car companies have given up on selling to anyone without a very high income and don't want a secondary car market anyway.
21:29 schestowitz-TR; most of the energy is spent on the car just moving itself
21:31 psydruid; schestowitz-TR, I haven't touched their stuff in 20 years
21:31 DaemonFC; "Production of the 3800 V6 engine officially ended on August 22, 2008 at plant 36. There was a ceremony and speakers who extolled the virtues of the engine. Originally, GM had set this date for January 1, 1999; however, due to the popularity among investors and customers and the reliability of the engine, the date was extended. At the end of production, the LZ4 3500 OHV V6 replaced the naturally aspirated 3800 applications, and the LY7 3.6L
21:31 DaemonFC; DOHC V6 replaced the supercharged 3800 applications."
21:32 DaemonFC; Overhead cam engines are less reliable.
21:33 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Value_engine
21:33 TR Bot; GM High Value engine - Wikipedia
21:33 DaemonFC; They replaced it with this.
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21:34 DaemonFC; Notice some immediate problems. Like aluminum block heads and Variable Valve Timing.
21:35 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine
21:35 TR Bot; GM High Feature engine - Wikipedia
21:35 DaemonFC; Then this, which has an all aluminum block and twin overhead cams and VVT.
21:35 DaemonFC; This stuff isn't reliable, it's not built to last, and you'll have more trouble with it than the price of any amount of fuel it saves you is worth.
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21:36 DaemonFC; Once you overheat an aluminum block or head then you've probably done major damage.
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21:37 DaemonFC; Cast iron could tolerate it happening more than aluminum and so sometimes with cast iron you just get lucky with a head gasket failure and all you need is a new gasket. It's still expensive because of the labor, but it's much less expensive than buying a new engine because the overheat ruined the whole thing.
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21:39 DaemonFC; Ford had to go on a marketing campaign when it switched its trucks over to aluminum bodies to save fuel.
21:39 DaemonFC; Their aluminum bodies dent easier, they rust faster if you don't repair paint chips and scratches right away.
21:40 DaemonFC; I've driven 20 year old cars without any rust on them before. If I buy the Buick, it'll be 14 years old and no rust.
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21:40 DaemonFC; If you take it through the car wash, it doesn't rust very quickly.
21:41 DaemonFC; I saw Scotty Kilmer on Youtube advertising those waterless car wash formulas that they sell.
21:41 DaemonFC; That's okay sometimes if you live in a state where they don't salt the roads and you're not near the ocean.
21:42 bnchs; waterless car wash formulas
21:42 bnchs; that's like waterless showering
21:43 DaemonFC; You spray it and then you wipe with a microfiber cloth.
21:43 DaemonFC; Then you throw the cloths in (someone else's) washing machine when you're done with the car.
21:43 DaemonFC; :)
21:44 DaemonFC; The things are so cheap that you can just buy them by the hundred and use the industrial washer over at the laundromat to clean them every now and then.
21:46 DaemonFC; To keep the exterior on this one nice I'll probably just go have fun with it at the touchless wash most of the year.
21:46 DaemonFC; The more you run the car through those automatic car washes, the sooner you start noticing clear coat scratches and stuff.
21:46 DaemonFC; That's stuff from other people's cars getting slid all over yours.
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21:48 DaemonFC; Hey, there's a full service over by Ross. Heh. Didn't even notice that. I was just using the cheap automatics on the Impala.
21:49 DaemonFC; It was already pretty fucked when I got it. Mom let it sit out there and start rusting and not much you can do after that sets in.
21:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I doubt the Buick could be anything worse than I've ever got from mom.
21:50 DaemonFC; She buys junk, doesn't maintain it, rides it hard, and then gives it to a family member. Usually heavily damaged.
21:50 DaemonFC; At that point you put as much money into it as buying one, it's just not right away and all at once.
21:51 DaemonFC; She offered me her 2011 Impala she drives now if I could wait until next year.
21:51 DaemonFC; I was already riding around in it with her a while back. The blend door actuator is malfunctioning. Those cost about $500 to replace at a shop.
21:52 DaemonFC; It's making a woodpecker noise and it interferes with the HVAC system unless you repair it properly. Eventually it fails and you have to repair it or no heat or air conditioning.
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21:52 DaemonFC; The bearings in the engine are damaged and they make a clicking/rattling noise while you drive that gets worse with acceleration.
21:53 HMS; i didnt think impalers was still being made
21:53 DaemonFC; She realizes she got cheated and she wants out of it, and it's going to be another "free" car that takes a shit on me and needs $4,000 worth of work just to make it run acceptably again.
21:53 DaemonFC; Plus, she drives like she's drunk. Can't stay in her lane, hits every pothole and the occasional curb.
21:54 DaemonFC; If you get it on a lift I'm sure the frontend needs rebuilt already.
21:54 DaemonFC; The 2003 that I'm getting rid of that has 280,000 miles on it rides better than her 2011.
21:54 bnchs; HMS: wait i didn't see you before
21:54 bnchs; hello
21:55 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVcN_6V7eU
21:55 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=qYVcN_6V7eU
21:55 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Black cat slapped me - Invidious
21:55 DaemonFC; <HMS> i didnt think impalers was still being made
21:55 DaemonFC; 2019 was the last year they were made, so the last ones have a 2020 model year.
21:55 DaemonFC; "Changing consumer preference." Again, federal fuel economy rules are killing the humble passenger car.
21:55 HMS; yes isnt that something form 1970
21:56 DaemonFC; Now you get morons in big trucks playing on their phones, burning 8 gallons to the mile.
21:56 DaemonFC; :)
21:56 DaemonFC; Because that's better!
21:56 HMS; big trucks are safer
21:56 DaemonFC; FOR THEM!
21:57 DaemonFC; Let's give them something THEY feel safe in that can do twice as much damage!
21:57 DaemonFC; ARMS RACE!
21:57 HMS; unless you are the other guy on the average car
21:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's why when someone is tailgating me, I just slow down.
21:57 HMS; you got love them humpvs
21:58 DaemonFC; Until we're going so slow they jerk the steering wheel to get in the other lane and then floor it to get to....the red light.
21:58 DaemonFC; Ahhh, we meet again. We have to stop doing this!
21:59 DaemonFC; When you see someone going real slow it's almost always in a big Buick or Cadillac with a big engine.
21:59 DaemonFC; Because they're some little 90 year old woman with bad eyesight.
21:59 DaemonFC; I admit I must exist simply to piss off Matthew Garrett.
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22:00 DaemonFC; If he saw the size of any car I've ever had. I mean, the Impala is basically a compact. I feel embarrassed in it.
22:00 HMS; you could fit them a hole chandelier inside them and throu a ball
22:00 DaemonFC; To me, a "car" starts out at Buick Roadmaster and Ford Crown Victoria, and stuff they just don't make now.
22:01 DaemonFC; I still remember the disappointment I had in 2003.
22:01 DaemonFC; I had cash in hand to buy a 1991 Roadmaster and it was gone before I could get there.
22:02 HMS; amaerican cars suck and thats a fact
22:02 HMS; well maybe not teasla
22:02 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ydTOJ0bho
22:02 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=H1ydTOJ0bho
22:02 TR Bot; tube.cthd.icu | 1991 Buick Roadmaster 1 Owner LT1 350 LT-1 GM like a Fleetwood / Caprice Sedan Impala SS - Invidious
22:02 MinceR; tesla sucks harder than most
22:02 HMS; tesla
22:02 DaemonFC; I wanted that!
22:02 bnchs; is there anyone who unironically drives a tesla
22:02 DaemonFC; MinceR is from Hungary, which is in Europe.
22:02 bnchs; a spying car
22:02 HMS; isnt that a cop car?
22:03 DaemonFC; Close to Germany.....
22:03 DaemonFC; Which is where the concept of clowns getting out of a VW emerged from because it's just so preposterous.
22:03 DaemonFC; We keep fighting, but they keep sending them in!
22:04 DaemonFC; If you see 20 clowns get out of a Crown Victoria, it's like "Okay, I can see how they all fit in that. They probably had plenty of leg room.".
22:04 DaemonFC; American cars just didn't work for clown jokes.
22:06 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYZLXDabEg
22:06 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=IMYZLXDabEg
22:06 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Al Builds A Bathroom! | Married With Children - Invidious
22:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
22:07 DaemonFC; Al Bundy was great.
22:07 DaemonFC; With the insight on toilets even.
22:08 DaemonFC; "Have you seen them lately? It's almost like they're apologizing to you when you flush them. A man's toilet should go BAWOOOOSH!".
22:12 HMS; !stats
22:13 DaemonFC; I don't have too many car problems where it's like days and days, no car, or surprise, and it doesn't start.
22:13 DaemonFC; For driving a piece of junk almost my entire life, that's surprising to most people. I've only ever turned the key and had nothing happen once.
22:13 DaemonFC; Defective battery.
22:14 AdmFubar; https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646
22:14 Alternative link; CloudFlare: lifehacker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646
22:14 TR Bot; Why You Should Buy the Dumbest TV You Can Find
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22:14 DaemonFC; I'm buying another "dumb" car.
22:14 DaemonFC; It just works. How dumb do you have to be to buy that?
22:15 DaemonFC; It doesn't spy on you. There's no program stored in volatile RAM to control the power windows that requires a $500 reprogramming after a battery replacement so BMW can rip you off some more.
22:15 DaemonFC; No tablets.
22:15 DaemonFC; No hard drive.
22:15 DaemonFC; No infotainment system.
22:15 DaemonFC; No "air conditioner computers".
22:15 DaemonFC; None of these things age well.
22:15 HMS; you drive a hard bargain
22:16 DaemonFC; The more sensors and computers and electrical wiring you put in a car, the sooner until you have a major problem.
22:16 DaemonFC; But it runs great for three years, and then you lob it like a grenade at anyone who gives you 30% of MSRP for it. That's a BMW.
22:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
22:17 DaemonFC; Most people get talked into giving their car away for nothing to the dealer as a trade-in.
22:18 DaemonFC; My dad only got like $300 for his 1978 Plymouth when he traded it in at the Chevy dealer in 1992. Even then you could go find some guy at work who would pay $600-700 for it in cash and the only thing you had to do was sign over the title to him.
22:18 DaemonFC; For being good with money, he even got had at the car dealerships.
22:21 DaemonFC; Anyway, I combed through the Internal Revenue Code yesterday because it was incorporated by reference into the eligibility for the Affordable Community Broadband program.
22:21 DaemonFC; You can actually make significantly more money than it looks like as a 2x multiple of the poverty guidline in some cases.
22:22 DaemonFC; Because what you're using as proof of income should be your tax returns. They accept pay stubs, but that's the wrong way to do it for a couple of reasons.
22:22 DaemonFC; 1. People tend to earn more money in the current year than in the year prior because of small COLA raises.
22:23 DaemonFC; 2. Your Line 9 "Total Income" may be a lower amount than if you gave them three paystubs and computed the gross income on an annual basis from that, due to the way the tax code works.
22:23 DaemonFC; Bankruptcy works this way too.
22:23 DaemonFC; You can file based on your paystubs, or you can file based on your most recent tax return.
22:23 DaemonFC; You should figure it out both ways and use whichever gets you under the income test.
22:24 DaemonFC; And for immigration sponsorship, it's the opposite.
22:24 DaemonFC; Calculate your household income in every way they allow you to submit it, and then submit whichever figure is highest, and the gross amount. That makes you more likely to not be deemed a potential burden on the state.
22:26 DaemonFC; So there's multiple ways to calculate your household income, and you have thousands of dollars in wiggle room in some cases one way vs. the other.
22:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Part of the tech bubble is Carvana.
22:29 DaemonFC; Even in this economy they're operating like way over the usual and customary price for used vehicles, and then they offer in house financing for 7 years old something old at 13%.
22:30 DaemonFC; Mom was asking me if I really needed a newer car right now. I told her "No, that's why I'm buying one now, before I do, which will be 1 or 2 years, no more.".
22:30 DaemonFC; She asked what I meant. I said, "If the Impala has a major breakdown and I can't get Mandy to work, I have to go take whatever deal I can get and pray that I don't get screwed very badly.".
22:31 AdmFubar; https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/
22:31 Alternative link; CloudFlare: duncanlock.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/
22:31 TR Bot; Windows after 15 years onLinux duncanlock.net
22:31 DaemonFC; "If I start while this one will still run okay most of the time, I have more options. I can walk away if something is really wrong with the first thing I look at."
22:31 HMS; asian cars are the best
22:31 MinceR; specifically, japanese cars
22:31 MinceR; ask DaemonFC about how great korean cars are :>
22:31 DaemonFC; Don't buy anything Korean.
22:32 DaemonFC; They're the car Germany of Asia.
22:32 HMS; why?
22:32 MinceR; they used to make good mobile phones
22:32 DaemonFC; Well, Hyundai and KIA have severe manufacturing defects, especially engines that blow up and brakes that catch fire.
22:32 HMS; german cars are good
22:32 DaemonFC; I witnessed two explosions of KIAs in a week in 2019.
22:33 DaemonFC; One at Walmart and one in a motel parking lot.
22:33 DaemonFC; Both of them looked like 9/11 in a parking lot.
22:33 MinceR; german cars are garbage
22:33 DaemonFC; Plus even if they don't blow up, they cut corners everywhere on a KIA.
22:33 MinceR; and so are german buses
22:33 DaemonFC; By the time it's a few years old, hinges and stuff are broken and dangling.
22:34 HMS; the USA should invade Korea ?
22:34 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-disney-subscription-price-increases
22:34 TR Bot; piloting subscription price increase feature - Protocol
22:34 DaemonFC; Then the electronics go out.
22:34 DaemonFC; KIA put in Android Auto on the 2018. Then they removed it after you bought the car.
22:34 HMS; ive seen kias with 7 years warranty
22:35 DaemonFC; Let me tell you about the warranty.
22:35 DaemonFC; People who use it get a used engine dropped in from god knows where.
22:35 DaemonFC; Even if the car is pretty new.
22:35 DaemonFC; Three months after I bought a 2018 KIA Soul, my air conditioner stopped working.
22:36 DaemonFC; They overfilled the R-134a at the factory, and then also there was a fuse wire that popped.
22:36 DaemonFC; And the dealer patched the wire and reset the R-134a level under warranty.
22:36 DaemonFC; Even though I lost the car and my ex has it, I still get unserviced recall letters about possible engine fires.
22:37 DaemonFC; I'm not telling him because I hope he's in it when it happens.
22:37 HMS; cars of mass destruction
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22:41 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/whataburger-biscuit-calorie-check-leads-to-texas-teens-arrest/
22:41 TR Bot; Whataburger biscuit calorie check leads to Texas teens arrest | WGN-TV
22:41 bnchs; ok how
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22:42 DaemonFC; He had a joint and when the cop smelled it, it also led to finding him in possession of a handgun, which is illegal for people under 21.
22:42 bnchs; ok well
22:42 bnchs; how was that related to the calorie check
22:42 DaemonFC; Getting out of the car with the joint in his hand to check the calories in the sandwich led to the marijuana bust, which led to the gun.
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22:57 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032744
22:57 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/udqgglxtmmp81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 17:31:48.757178
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22:57 immibis; DaemonFC: either everyone should have guns or nobody
22:58 DaemonFC; I don't think there should be too many restrictions on that.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 299.96
23:00 HMS; i thonk dears should have guns
23:01 MinceR; i'd choose the former, then
23:01 bnchs; oh you know this guy should have guns
23:01 bnchs; but this guy shouldn't
23:02 HMS; DaemonFC isnt GUY
23:02 bnchs; he's gay
23:03 HMS; she is?
23:03 bnchs; HE is
23:04 HMS; if he is gay then hes a she
23:04 MinceR; lol
23:04 bnchs; he's a she but gay means he means he is a she
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23:07 HMS; my thought exactly
23:09 DaemonFC; My Fallout 4 playthrough is going okay, but I kind of burned myself out on it a couple of weeks ago.
23:10 DaemonFC; Technically about 90% of the game is still out there to play because I have all of the expansion packs.
23:10 HMS; do you think when you have to anser online forms if you are male female or dont whant to anser if you choose tha latest you are going into the gay basket?
23:10 DaemonFC; I want to get to at least level 80 before I try Nuka World.
23:10 DaemonFC; There's a lot of banks that just put whatever name you want on your card.
23:11 DaemonFC; I don't know how that works. If someone actually does check your ID.
23:13 HMS; Fallout 4 have you joined the lapsus$ clan ?
23:13 HMS; the ones that put people on crosses ?
23:14 DaemonFC; Crosses?
23:14 bnchs; you crucfix them
23:14 DaemonFC; The last time I saw anyone get crucified in Fallout was in New Vegas.
23:14 HMS; ho oky igot them mixedup
23:15 HMS; thats after fallout 3 ?
23:15 HMS; or before?
23:16 DaemonFC; It takes place between 3 and 4.
23:16 DaemonFC; There are a few references to New Vegas in Fallout 4.
23:17 DaemonFC; Although, Fallout New Vegas was outsourced to Obsidian.
23:17 DaemonFC; They wanted to do a sequel, but Bethesda didn't let them because they were worried it would be more popular than their own game again.
23:17 bnchs; if you're gonna play fallout 4
23:17 HMS; Obsidian that elder scrools
23:17 bnchs; then play a "pirated" version of it
23:18 bnchs; or maybe console version
23:18 bnchs; HMS: obvilion
23:18 DaemonFC; About the only good thing that they did to Fallout 4 was remove weapon and armor deterioration.
23:18 HMS; i never really likef tpgs all that much
23:18 bnchs; but that made it more accurate
23:19 DaemonFC; In New Vegas, it deteriorates and you have to have a skill tree for that and stop to fix things too much.
23:19 bnchs; if your weapon never jams or breaks
23:19 bnchs; then basically it's unrealistic
23:19 DaemonFC; They break in New Vegas, but they don't jam.
23:19 DaemonFC; In New Vegas, Power Armor doesn't take any power source.
23:19 bnchs; yeah
23:19 HMS; is there anything reallistic on these games?
23:19 DaemonFC; In Fallout 4, they require nuclear fusion batteries.
23:20 DaemonFC; Obviously, it's to keep you from playing through in Power Armor all the time.
23:21 DaemonFC; The fusion cells are rare and scattered because nobody has made any since the war.
23:21 bnchs; power armor doesn't take power source
23:21 bnchs; hmmmm
23:21 bnchs; that seems unrealistic
23:21 DaemonFC; Yeah. Inconsistencies.
23:22 HMS; power source is a fusion battery that lasts milenia
23:22 HMS; or until you get nuked
23:23 HMS; why would you want to play a reallistic game?
23:24 MinceR; because games that don't exist are the best games :P
23:24 HMS; if you go to sleep you need to actually wait the amount of hours you gona sleep
23:24 bnchs; far cry 2 had weapons that jam
23:24 HMS; thats realistic for you
23:25 MinceR; there is only one man who would dare give me the raspberry: Lone Starr!
23:26 HMS; raspberry?
23:27 MinceR; HMS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0
23:27 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0
23:27 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Space balls RADAR JAMMED - Invidious
23:28 HMS; on fallout 3 i got the aliens weapons chinese stealth armour and the winter power armour
23:28 bnchs; "In December 2014, Ubisoft offered a free game from their catalogue of recently released titles to compensate the season pass owners of Assassin's Creed Unity due to its buggy launch. The terms offered with the free game revoked the user's right to sue Ubisoft for the buggy launch of the game"
23:28 bnchs; "oh i'm sorry the game didn't work, here's a free game
23:28 HMS; im GOD like!
23:28 bnchs; all you have to do is sign a waiver"
23:29 HMS; a free old game
23:29 bnchs; dude you gotta get this free game
23:29 bnchs; and not have the ability to sue Ubisoft for whatever garbage they put
23:30 MinceR; the ending is better in this one >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8
23:30 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8
23:30 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | Spaceballs - The Bleeps, Sweeps and the Creeps - Invidious
23:31 HMS; "buggy launch of the game" cause you didnt buy the new grafics card to play it
23:31 bnchs; yes
23:31 bnchs; dude the game didn't work?
23:31 bnchs; you didn't read the specs
23:32 bnchs; you have to have 300 GB of RAM
23:32 bnchs; a NASA supercomputer cluster
23:32 bnchs; to run the game at 20 fps
23:33 HMS; the other space game also had buggy launch
23:33 bnchs; you gotta need all of NASA's computers to run the game at 50 fps
23:33 bnchs; though
23:34 HMS; nd a fusion battery to power them
23:34 bnchs; and have fun playing (Ass)(ass)in's Creed (Unity)
23:34 bnchs; while your electricity bill goes up to the billions
23:35 HMS; unreal engine just got bumped to version 5 !
23:35 psydruid; muh gaymes
23:35 HMS; ultra realistic shit dude
23:35 bnchs; ultra realistic shit dude
23:36 bnchs; you gotta have unreal engine
23:36 bnchs; it's made by this guy named tim swine-e
23:36 bnchs; unreal engine is so realistic, even though it can be replicated easily
23:36 HMS; that shit is so real you can almost smell it
23:36 bnchs; yeah it might be
23:37 bnchs; but then after the eyecandy goes away
23:37 bnchs; you realize the gameplay is garbage
23:37 psydruid; Meet Tim:
23:37 HMS; that shit is so real its unreal!
23:37 bnchs; sign your soul to use it
23:41 HMS; EndeavourOS is it any good?
23:42 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032714
23:42 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ghxzmht3arp81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 08:37:53.062513
23:42 HMS; its got Worm WM
23:42 MinceR; it comes with systemd, so it's not good
23:43 HMS; systemd is your friend
23:43 psydruid; KamikazeOS
23:43 bnchs; the best WM is windowmaker
23:43 bnchs; that shit got widgets
23:43 psydruid; running in Worms VM
23:43 bnchs; better than kde's garbage
23:43 MinceR; not mine
23:43 MinceR; and fvwm is better
23:44 bnchs; lemme see EndeavourOS
23:44 bnchs; >ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO
23:44 bnchs; DUMPED
23:45 HMS; fvwm cant use wayland
23:45 bnchs; >wayland
23:45 bnchs; garbage
23:45 bnchs; use X11
23:45 HMS; srly?
23:46 bnchs; yes
23:46 XRevan86; MinceR: That's the idea behind the symbol, yes.
23:47 HMS; ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO thats a good thing
23:47 HMS; for nvidia owners
23:47 XRevan86; MinceR: Could be offensive to other bearers of Pan-Slavic colours like Slovenia, but it is what it is.
23:48 MinceR; i wonder how viable this "pan-slavic" thing is anyway
23:48 MinceR; considering how much they like to kill each other south and east of here
23:49 TR News; 10 Networking Technologies That You Probably Arent Using https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ Source: tedium
23:49 Alternative link; CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/
23:49 TR Bot; 10 Networking Technologies That You Probably Arent Using
23:50 XRevan86; MinceR: Not very viable, it's more of a historical note than anything else.
23:50 MinceR; :>
23:50 TR News; U.S. Treasury moves to keep Russians connected despite sanctions - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/ Source: accessnow
23:50 Alternative link; CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/
23:50 TR Bot; U.S. Treasury moves to keep Russians connected despite sanctions - Access Now
23:51 bnchs; <HMS> ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO thats a good thing
23:51 bnchs; no
23:52 bnchs; it's packing drivers against their will
23:52 XRevan86; MinceR: But the similiarity of all these flags is not a coincidence. So if one flag is wrong, then why not every one else?
23:52 bnchs; "here have this driver that you can't choose to not install"
23:52 bnchs; these drivers have EULA aswell
23:52 MinceR; having the driver in the ISO shouldn't mean it has to be installed
23:52 MinceR; XRevan86: dunno
23:53 MinceR; i think states and nations should be abolished, and that would make most flags meaningless anyway
23:55 HMS; yes one world under the jolly rogers
23:55 HMS; picture that
23:55 XRevan86; But I still like the BSB flag, it's a good symbol. But the rationales that people try to invent not that great. The similiarity to BChB flag is a more practical rationale in my opinion.
23:55 TR News; It seems Fedora Web traffic is so low that they've quit sharing information about it https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-14/
23:55 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-14 Fedora Community Blog
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23:55 TR News; WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163522
23:55 TR Bot; WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. | Tux Machines
23:56 XRevan86; (the BChB flag is the white-red-white flag of independent Belarus')
23:56 HMS; EndeavourOS has 100 times the traffic fedora has
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23:57 TR News; Disappointing. How to put Microsoft malware on GNU/Linux to help other proprietary malware. If this is how you manage a "Linux" server, you're hopeless. https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-azure-data-studio-on-linux/
23:57 TR Bot; How to Install Azure Data Studio on Linux to Manage Your SQL Servers
23:57 HMS; it comes with nvidia drivers as for fedora you will be lucky if your card doesnt blowup
23:58 TR News; LOL! OMG!!! THIS IS SO STUPID !! "You can make your curtains smart in just 30 seconds." https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/switchbot-smart-home-products/
23:58 TR Bot; Save 30% on These SwitchBot Smart Home Products - Make Tech Easier
23:58 MinceR; what's the BSB flag?
23:59 XRevan86; MinceR: white-blue-white
23:59 MinceR; ah.
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23:59 bnchs; SMART CURTAINS
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