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00:00 highest_cubist_thrills; when he called them transphopbic monkeys <- youre in rare form today, even for you
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; g WIndow Snyder wa s poser
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; who praised Microsof
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; tthe NSA company
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; using her Moziulla hat
00:00 highest_cubist_thrills; prasing microsoft IS a bad sign yes
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; what an embarrassment that waspriaising former emploloyyerl
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; leikt it was ecurity role model
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; while it was owkring with NSA
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; maybe theyd din't even tell her LOL
00:01 DaemonFC; Microsoft's only work on IE for nearly a decade was a pop-up blocker and browser tabs. Same old shit underneath.
00:01 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean when sec experts, or as i like to call them, secxperts, praise microsoft its a bad sign
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; but don't worry
00:01 DaemonFC; And they wondered why that didn't solve the problems of their users fleeing.
00:01 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre dying?
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; now we have war criminals doing CSO role for Mozilkla
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00:01 schestowitz[TR]; g WIndow Snyder
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
00:01 highest_cubist_thrills; now we have war criminals doing CSO role for Mozilkla <- gotta keep up with nazibm
00:01 TR Bot; Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2008/12/11/window-snyder-out/
00:01 TR Bot; Quick Mention: Mozilla Detoxicated from Microsoft Influence | Techrights
00:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I've migrated almost everything over to SeaMonkey.
00:02 DaemonFC; There's some sites it won't run, but I started using nheko for Matrix chats.
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2008/12/11/window-snyder-out/"
00:02 DaemonFC; And I pay my electric bill with GNOME Web.
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; "Windows and that those who flatter Windows for security are often tied to Microsoft (Window Snyder is just one example).
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; "
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2010/04/01/skepticism-research/
00:02 DaemonFC; So I mean, those are corner cases.
00:02 TR Bot; Eye on Security: Windows Malware, Emergency Patches, and BeyondTrusts CEO from Microsoft | Techrights
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00:02 schestowitz[TR]; "Window Snyder's first day at Apple was Monday, according to PC World."
00:02 DaemonFC; Fucking "Web3" garbage.
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2010/03/10/win-botnets-a-lost-cause/
00:02 highest_cubist_thrills; has mjg praised anything microsoft other than suckyour boot?
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00:02 TR Bot; Microsoft and Insecurity: Vulnerabilities, Botnets, and a Whole Lot of Nerve | Techrights
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; Apple invaded, too
00:04 DaemonFC; Most Web browser attack surface is JavaScript.
00:04 DaemonFC; Turn it off.
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they use github
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; what better badge of endorsement do you need?
00:04 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey is using Gitlab.
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; some free software award winner
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; uses github
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; to cancel the founder of free software
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; by using thaat microsoft platform to DEFAME him
00:05 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey development is pretty slow, tbh.
00:05 highest_cubist_thrills; uses github <- before he used github he used lieplanet fwiw
00:05 DaemonFC; The Web platform updates tend to be pretty minor, but it's happening while 2.57 is under active development.
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; All modern [sic] browsers are pretty slow, tbh
00:05 DaemonFC; So a lot of this is just keeping 2.53 updated enough to work.
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; they are CPU core hogs
00:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: A bunch of dead GUI code I pointed out recently got purged.
00:06 DaemonFC; The GUI is looking a lot better now without references to AOL Messenger and plug-ins and stuff.
00:06 highest_cubist_thrills; ram too
00:06 DaemonFC; There was a surprising amount of code around in the Suite for an AIM button.
00:07 MinceR; > the implication being that if you study biology you cant become knowledgeable in othr fields
00:07 MinceR; hopefully not
00:07 DaemonFC; That was only ever in there because AOL owned Netscape and Mozilla 20 years ago.
00:07 highest_cubist_thrills; then again its easier to get crazy amounts of ram than crazy amounts of cpu
00:07 MinceR; 07 005809 < DaemonFC> Is that the one where you sign up to be a transformerphobe or a SJW with a Reddit (child porn dump) hat on?
00:07 MinceR; could be a transmissionphobe
00:07 DaemonFC; AIM has been totally dead and gone for 5 years and isn't coming back.
00:07 DaemonFC; Removing that code has been a long time overdue.
00:07 highest_cubist_thrills; /me isnt terribly impressed with mjg on security anyway
00:07 highest_cubist_thrills; imo he gets spanked regularly by leah and probably ariadne
00:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but i think he and ariadne are closer (not necessarily where its unreasonable btw) on crypto
00:08 highest_cubist_thrills; where leah can spank him on firmware
00:08 MinceR; 07 010108 < DaemonFC> Microsoft's only work on IE for nearly a decade was a pop-up blocker and browser tabs. Same old shit underneath.
00:08 highest_cubist_thrills; so its not the same thing
00:08 MinceR; oh, i remember ie "loading" a new, empty tab for minutes every time one was created
00:09 MinceR; 07 010740 < highest_cubist_thrills> /me isnt terribly impressed with mjg on security anyway
00:09 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont think of ariadne as a sec guru (unless she is one, but then shes never mentioned it) only a developer who takes that stuff seriously (which is probably the best kind of dev ofc)
00:09 MinceR; praising MICROS~1 snake oil is a dead giveaway
00:09 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> praising MICROS~1 snake oil is a dead giveaway <- of course it is. thats why i asked if hes praised anything other than suckyour boot
00:10 MinceR; i don't pay enough attention to him to know
00:10 DaemonFC; There were "browsers" that were like a Hannibal Lector mask wearing IE's rendering engine. They had tabs and pop-up blockers years before IE.
00:10 highest_cubist_thrills; im not interested in getting him off the hook. better imo to keep him on the hooks where he belongs than try to move him to a bunch that wont support his weight
00:10 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> i don't pay enough attention to him to know <- neither do i, which is why im asking, but fair enough
00:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i go mostly by what i see here
00:11 DaemonFC; brb
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; pluton BS
00:11 highest_cubist_thrills; and just a bit on twitter
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00:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> pluton BS <- fair point
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; what is twitter?
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; ahh, nitter
00:11 highest_cubist_thrills; its been so long since ive heard pluton
00:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> ahh, nitter <- yes, i use nitter too
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; AMD pushes pluton for Microsot
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; slaes down 40% LOL
00:11 highest_cubist_thrills; its faster than waiting for shitter to load
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid noticed
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; "PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! "|
00:11 Ariadne; i dont know anything about pluton verses other HSMs
00:12 starstreak; twitter is awesome
00:12 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt trust microsoft anyway
00:12 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> twitter is awesome <- youre a dork
00:12 Ariadne; i mean that is certainly valid
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00:12 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, :)
00:12 Ariadne; you shouldnt use an HSM from a vendor you dont trust ;)
00:12 techuser; there are no trustworthy vendors
00:12 MinceR; unfortunately that rules out all of them
00:12 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft is a monopolist. if i need an hsm id rather it be from someone with LESS of a reputation for abusing power
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla lol
00:13 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> unfortunately that rules out all of them <- it probably does
00:13 techuser; HSMs are user-hostile
00:13 Ariadne; i disagree. there are HSMs that have fully FOSS firmware and are written using secure methods
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla, whose cso did in fact attack a country
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; to replace its government
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; using violence
00:13 techuser; HSM is an evil hardware unit by design
00:13 MinceR; also if MICROS~1 calls it "security", that automatically makes it suspect
00:13 Ariadne; HSMs can be used for user hostile purposes and also for good purposes
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; arm smuggling etc.
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla: we are woke!!
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; we use CIE GitHub
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; *ICE
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; we also hire Benghazi coup plotters
00:14 techuser; free software doesn't matter for it. We have to deal with malicious hardware.
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla might get so inclusive it;ll start hiring isis operatives
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; to balnace things
00:14 MinceR; MICROS~1 is the corporation that refers to DRM and vendor lock-in as "security"
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; but not "bad actors"
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; like CIA agents
00:14 techuser; tivoization was an example of malicious hardware
00:14 MinceR; and probably the one that has done the most to harm IT security so far
00:14 Ariadne; anyway i dont really want to debate the merits of HSMs right now
00:14 Ariadne; but they can do a lot more than just enforce DRM
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: it's always about "securityu'
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; governments do the same
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; anything anti-user is justified as seurity
00:15 Ariadne; i use an HSM to protect techrights infrastructure from offline tampering
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; for children
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; terror preventiob
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; "pirates!;'
00:15 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> i use an HSM to protect techrights infrastructure <- :)
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; p2p promote terrorism, they say..
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00:16 highest_cubist_thrills; /me met someone who worked on the manhattan project
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; 150k people workedon it no?>
00:16 highest_cubist_thrills; im not sure they can protect us from asteroids, but if they can maybe we should hold onto a few at least
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; or at least 100k
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00:17 highest_cubist_thrills; they probably shouldnt be handed out with every mre
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; "but grew to employ more than 130,000 people"
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Manhattan_Project
00:17 TR Bot; Timeline of the Manhattan Project - Wikipedia
00:17 highest_cubist_thrills; "one steak, mashed potatoes, pony nuke, one packet of ketchup"
00:17 MinceR; family atomics
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; "job creators"
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; "NUKES!"
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00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is a scientist at heart
00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; but a sceptical one
00:18 MinceR; "i am hidden scientist!"
00:18 TR News; This tinyML-powered baby swing automatically starts when crying is detected | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/06/this-tinyml-powered-baby-swing-automatically-starts-when-crying-is-detected/ Source: Arduino
00:18 TR Bot; This tinyML-powered baby swing automatically starts when crying is detected | Arduino Blog
00:19 XRevan86; What's a non-sceptical scientist? A philosopher?
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> "i am hidden scientist!" <- you too
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; the moon isnt even full yet
00:19 MinceR; XRevan86: a "christian scientist"
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; <XRevan86> What's a non-sceptical scientist? A philosopher? <- a corporate hire
00:19 Ariadne; highest_cubist_thrills: i can expand if you want :)
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre all too common
00:19 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZV9kkzscg
00:19 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=LuZV9kkzscg
00:19 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Worst Job Interview: Odisha Guy - Invidious
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> highest_cubist_thrills: i can expand if you want <- id love to know which one. but i dont think your position on this is inherently unreasonable
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00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; there may be a purpose for hsms. thats exactly why i made the point about nukes
00:20 Ariadne; on how techrights use an HSM to ensure that remote hands cannot compromise the infrastructure
00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; though we could certainly do with fewer...
00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> on how techrights use an HSM to ensure that remote hands cannot compromise the infrastructure <- that would be interesting and very possibly educational
00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; /me isnt being sarcastic
00:20 Ariadne; i think it is a perfectly fine use of an HSM
00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; it very possibly is. i wouldnt even know
00:21 Ariadne; we use dm-verity
00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; is it from microsoft?
00:21 TR News; A Technological Analogy gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-10-07-technological-analogy.gmi "It is a more recent technology and was, at first, just for fun. Theres no direct competition with the older, heavier solution."
00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm?
00:21 Ariadne; No
00:21 Ariadne; its from whatever vendor dell use
00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; \o/
00:21 Ariadne; but even if it were pluton i doubt i would care
00:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i would care
00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but its not, so its moot
00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i would care <- i mean i would think it was funny
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00:22 Ariadne; an HSM is an HSM, it does not have any access to host memory or host CPU
00:22 Ariadne; the problems with HSMs are from the decisions of hostile vendors to use them to take away user freedom
00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is not a security expert at all
00:22 Ariadne; but HSMs themselves are quite useful
00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; the problems with HSMs are from the decisions of hostile vendors to use them to take away user freedom <- i think thats the concern yet
00:22 highest_cubist_thrills; yes
00:23 Ariadne; pluton is probably ok
00:23 Ariadne; even if microsoft themselves are dicks
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; fsvo probably
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; imo if it was ok why do they even bother with it :)
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; this is microsoft you know
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; what are they even going to do with "ok"
00:23 Ariadne; because they wanted to have the HSM do more stuff, like TLS acceleration
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "we take ok and upgrade it into fucking evil"
00:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "its what we do"
00:23 MinceR; considering that pluton is supposed to be a TPM replacement, it probably supports DRM and remote attestation
00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; TLS acceleration <- fair enough
00:24 MinceR; i'm not really comfortable with giving money for such a device
00:24 Ariadne; i mean any HSM can be used for DRM
00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; later when it turns into skynet ill say i told you so (i think theres very little chance of this)
00:24 MinceR; do they all come with an Endorsement Key?
00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean any HSM can be used for DRM <- that doesnt sit well with me
00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but it depends what you mean
00:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, any "crypto" can be used for drm and im not against crypto
00:24 Ariadne; i mean no, most come blank ;)
00:24 MinceR; :>
00:25 Ariadne; but even still the TPM spec which pluton supports allows unenrolling all keys
00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; drm is basically ransomware. its just more targeted (except for sonys)
00:25 schestowitz; "Many people say that Gemini is decentralized.
00:25 schestowitz; " It's not and people who say that don't grasp gemini, decentralisation, or both gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1146
00:25 Ariadne; yes i agree DRM sucks
00:25 Ariadne; this isnt a conversation about DRM
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00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; you mentioned drm first
00:25 Ariadne; DRM is the result of taking a technology and abusing it
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00:25 highest_cubist_thrills; DRM is the result of taking a technology and abusing it <- agreed
00:25 MinceR; it's a conversation about DRM devices MICROS~1 promotes with the word "security" :>
00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "It's not" <- it is as decentralised as the web is.
00:26 Ariadne; i dont think that HSMs should be knocked because of DRM. self destructing on tamper key storage is useful
00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; and the web is not decentralised enough.
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft <3 NSA
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; NSA <3 back doors
00:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think that HSMs should be knocked because of DRM <- maybe youre right
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's connected to "secure [sic] core"
00:27 highest_cubist_thrills; though i wont go as far as defending microsofts further entrance to consumer hardware based on "#notallhsms"
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; it ties in together
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; vendor lockin
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; and Lessened Security
00:27 MinceR; which of them can do anything on tampering anyway?
00:27 highest_cubist_thrills; which is a position i doubt youll knock very hard
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; disguised as "security"
00:27 MinceR; i know typical TPMs can't
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; they can remoately brick machines
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; wait, it'll happen
00:27 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> i know typical TPMs can't <- but tpm is your grandmothers hsm though
00:27 MinceR; yeah
00:27 Ariadne; the newer ones are built in a way where if they are exposed to heat to desolder the chip it just kills the chip
00:28 MinceR; ic
00:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> they can remoately brick machines <- how true is this ariadne
00:28 MinceR; what if i cut the mainboard and then decap the chip?
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00:28 schestowitz[TR]; germany found this out
00:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> what if i cut the mainboard and then decap the chip <- what if he has a pointed stick?
00:28 Ariadne; it has to do with how the package itself is fabricated
00:28 Ariadne; they are intentionally fragile
00:28 MinceR; i don't particularly mind having a bit of PCB under the legs of the package :>
00:29 Ariadne; but yes if you cut out a pcb :)
00:29 highest_cubist_thrills; they are intentionally fragile <- like lieplanet
00:29 highest_cubist_thrills; /me couldnt resist
00:29 TR News; "Our thoughts on IBM slicing up more of Red Hat, what stands out in Nextcloud Hub 3, and a few essential fixes finally landing in the Linux kernel." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-action-news/261/
00:29 TR Bot; Linux Action News 261 | Jupiter Broadcasting
00:30 Ariadne; as for remote bricking, that depends on a lot of variables
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; it already happened
00:30 Ariadne; for example, on new macs, the storage is encrypted, and the key is in the HSM
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; "accidentally"
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; gn, too tired...
00:31 Ariadne; those macs have firmware features outside the TPM which facilitate a remote brick
00:31 Ariadne; so basically it comes down to firmware
00:31 Ariadne; you can implement this or not
00:31 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> as for remote bricking, that depends on a lot of variables <Ariadne> so basically it comes down to firmware <- fair enough
00:32 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean if im not using something that needs the keys
00:32 highest_cubist_thrills; bricking the keys wont brick anything else
00:32 Ariadne; the activation lock on macs bricks the key and then sets a flag in the firmware saying that the mac needs to be reinstalled
00:32 Ariadne; if you want to desolder the SPI flash, you can unbrick it
00:33 Ariadne; you just have to install the OS again
00:33 highest_cubist_thrills; does that include the hallowed m1?
00:33 Ariadne; yes
00:33 highest_cubist_thrills; meh
00:33 Ariadne; and m2
00:33 highest_cubist_thrills; id rather be entirely in charge of any bricking mechanism
00:33 highest_cubist_thrills; rather than trust apple with one
00:34 Ariadne; you can build that :)
00:34 Ariadne; not on apple but
00:34 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah
00:34 highest_cubist_thrills; but if i was going to have one at all
00:34 highest_cubist_thrills; id rather have one i chose
00:34 Ariadne; the components themselves are composable in such a way
00:35 Ariadne; that you can build whatever you want
00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> the components themselves are composable in such a way <Ariadne> that you can build whatever you want <- roy is right to be sceptical of these things imo
00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but just like id prefer apple leave this up to me
00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; id rather roy give me more facts to work with, and let me come to my own conclusion than have him do that for me
00:36 highest_cubist_thrills; /me knows thats never going to happen
00:36 MinceR; 07 013354 < highest_cubist_thrills> rather than trust apple with one
00:37 MinceR; i don't trust apple with any bit of hardware
00:37 MinceR; their competence and attitude are both abysmal
00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont trust apple either, and here are new reasons i dont
00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, this conversation gave me the best reason NOT to trust apple yet (imo)
00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; but, it did so at the "cost" of a more nuanced (and informed) take on the tech involved
00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; rather than "omg radioactive dont touch"
00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; which is good advice-- touching stuff thats radioactive is usually a bad idea
00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and if you do, you can measure the levels after (but better to do that before)
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; if you go to chernobyl youll have to pass through machinest that detect your levels of radioactivity before you rejoin the population
00:39 Ariadne; yes of the applications one can and should be skeptical
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; and there are zones youre meant to stay out of
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but people live there.
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; a few
00:39 Ariadne; but the underlying tech is harmless
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; <Ariadne> but the underlying tech is harmless <- i generally think being informed is a good thing
00:39 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes i like to have details
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; details can be abused like everything else, but they can often help
00:40 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/world/us/biden-overhauls-us-policy-marijuana-pardons-prior-federal-offenses-2022-10-06/
00:40 TR Bot; Biden overhauls U.S. policy on marijuana, pardons prior federal offenses
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; <XRevan86> https://neuters.de <- busted taillights remain a capital offence
00:40 TR Bot; Neuters - Reuters Proxy
00:41 highest_cubist_thrills; (an excuse to pull over black people and kill them)
00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; systemd is the new goatse
00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not nearly as random as it looks, but ok
00:46 highest_cubist_thrills; /me wonders what the hell keeps sourceforge from imploding
00:46 highest_cubist_thrills; its going to be VERY bad when it goes
00:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i know it already did once
00:46 highest_cubist_thrills; which partially (and happily) refutes my point
00:46 DaemonFC; I actually strongly approve of the marijuana pardons and the scheduling review.
00:46 DaemonFC; I have nothing to say in criticism of this.
00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; being right isnt even the point-- id love to be wrong about this
00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i strongly prefer it
00:47 DaemonFC; Libertarians have been arguing for ending the failed drug war for decades.
00:47 DaemonFC; They were also the first political party in the US that called for repealing the sodomy laws and legalizing same-sex marriage. In 1974, I believe.
00:48 DaemonFC; 38 years ahead of the Democrats.
00:48 DaemonFC; It's just crazy that with all of the actual violent crime going on in the US and how they say there's no room in prison for child sex predators and murderers, that people are going to prison for smoking pot.
00:49 MinceR; "law and order", you know.
00:49 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> "law and order", you know <- yeah, like in russia
00:50 MinceR; exactly
00:52 DaemonFC; It was absolutely timed though.
00:52 DaemonFC; I mean, it is politics.
00:52 DaemonFC; The President can control the news cycle a little with something like this.
00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> exactly <- if youre going to go after criminals, you want someone who knows how to think like a criminal
00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and not many people think more like a criminal than putin, so really hes the best man for the job
00:52 XRevan86; "law and order", you know <- "yeah, like in russia" <- I do recognise the style.
00:53 highest_cubist_thrills; so really hes the best man for the job <- alas, thatcher is dead
00:53 highest_cubist_thrills; she was the best man for the job
00:54 highest_cubist_thrills; putin has a shrine to her in his bunker
00:54 highest_cubist_thrills; hes going to clone her and stick her brain in a robot
00:54 highest_cubist_thrills; but dont worry, the robot will be based on one of his old tanks
00:54 highest_cubist_thrills; so she will be dead again soon enough
00:55 highest_cubist_thrills; "i have a TURRET? this is bloody awesome!"
00:55 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: "putin has a shrine to her in his bunker" <- I can't prove that he doesn't (:
00:55 XRevan86; Thatcher-61M?
00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "why cant i move my treads?"
00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "youre out of fuel"
00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "bloody hell"
00:56 XRevan86; T[hatcher]-62M?
00:56 highest_cubist_thrills; russian tanks get such lousy mileage theyre using teslas to refuel them
00:58 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure theyll literally name a tank after her at some point
00:58 highest_cubist_thrills; id be terrified personally
00:58 highest_cubist_thrills; "oh god, its a thatcher"
00:58 highest_cubist_thrills; "its just a rebranded russian tank, dont worry"
00:58 highest_cubist_thrills; "yeah but still, thats a bit terrifying"
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.10
01:00 highest_cubist_thrills; now if the soviet union were still around, you know how they would make tanks
01:00 XRevan86; Today I learnt that the Bulgarians have been turning T-62's into fire trucks: https://webnews.bg/uploads/images/17/3917/133917/768x432.jpg
01:01 highest_cubist_thrills; theyd make one that was big enough to roll over the other ones
01:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "hmm, enemy tanks"
01:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "no problem, watch this"
01:01 highest_cubist_thrills; into fire trucks <- ha!
01:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "what starts with 'f' and ends in 'uck'-- 'FIRE TRUCK!'"
01:02 MinceR; nazi germany tried that
01:02 MinceR; it didn't work
01:02 MinceR; it would get stuck everywhere and couldn't cross any bridges
01:02 MinceR; plus it was slow as molasses
01:02 highest_cubist_thrills; it would get stuck everywhere and couldn't cross any bridges <- lesson learned then
01:02 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean not everything soviet russia made was awesome at all
01:02 highest_cubist_thrills; like they made that flying fortress
01:02 highest_cubist_thrills; that was just a complete fuckup
01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; b52 was also called the flying fortress
01:03 XRevan86; MinceR: Coarse and gets everywhere.
01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but theyre still touring
01:03 highest_cubist_thrills; mostly doing casinos
01:03 MinceR; the B-17 was the Flying Fortress, the B-52 is the Stratofortress :>
01:03 MinceR; XRevan86: lol
01:04 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> the B-17 was the Flying Fortress, the B-52 is the Stratofortress <- mincer, the encyclopedia nobody can edit
01:04 highest_cubist_thrills; fair enough though
01:04 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt know planes
01:04 highest_cubist_thrills; well, i know couple of them. not really though
01:04 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: He's a bagira.
01:05 highest_cubist_thrills; oh give him more credit
01:05 XRevan86; Oh, I managed to misread that :D
01:05 MinceR; only the "stratofortress" part was in the "encyclopedia", i had to look up the rest :>
01:06 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is pretty sure mincer has heard of tbe b52s as well
01:06 MinceR; yeah, i've read an article about the B-52
01:06 XRevan86; If I can't tell "h" and "l" apart, I'm off to bed.
01:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the band
01:06 bagira; im not always a bagira, but when I am, i'm also phanes
01:06 MinceR; mainly about why it's still used while most of the other bombers fell out of use
01:06 MinceR; including its intended successors :>
01:07 MinceR; bagira: what are you when you're neither?
01:07 highest_cubist_thrills; <bagira> im not always a bagira, but when I am, i'm also phanes <- thats funny, b/c when i picture bagira i do actually picture the most interesting man in the world
01:07 MinceR; i picture a cat
01:07 highest_cubist_thrills; bagpuss?
01:07 MinceR; black "panther"
01:08 MinceR; well, technically "black panthers" are Panthera, but it's not very specific
01:08 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> i picture a cat <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dpwhohWhrEE
01:08 TR Bot; Bagpuss opening intro - Invidious
01:16 bagira; highest_cubist_thrills, i actually get that alot because i had this long black pointed beard for years and often wear a suit when i go to work or travel
01:16 bagira; and i also have a varied set of interests shared with many walks of life lol
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01:23 bagira; being weirdly quasi-gov-corp-consultant kind of adds to the impression i guess, i end up in the same room as alot of tectonic moments
01:24 bagira; sometimes though
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01:24 starstreak; bagira, things a typical freemason does
01:25 bagira; what looks like a business meeting by a mantle fire with a business tycoon is actually my sneaking a bottle bourbon to a partner at a meeting and i have no other reason to be there
01:26 bagira; like legit this has happened, i'll be sipping a glencairn with somebody in like a "look what I stopped by to share" at their office or in their meeting room and their staff will be like "oh he must be one of the lawyers" and I just don't say anything and let the meeting go and they don't notice the glasses
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01:30 bagira; the expression for "is that a hint of apricot" looks amazingly like "I am considering carefully the entire situation being discussed and am reserving my words for now."
01:36 bagira; other times
01:36 bagira; i am not in the room
01:36 bagira; but i am the situation
01:39 MinceR; jersey shore?
01:39 bagira; ha no
01:39 bagira; but in all honestly usually my life is much more mundane than either scenario
01:39 starstreak; the situation is actually cool
01:40 bagira; i actually spend a great deal of time and effort making my presence ambiguous so i can assess from the outside depending on why im there
01:41 highest_cubist_thrills; ambiguous presence... by calvin klein
01:42 bagira; my favorite is when i go to conventions and spend like 2 days of a 3 day convention making friends at the table of someone who's been putridly toxic to me online for years and has no that i'm the same person because they don't know my last name
01:42 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J5fEXgYGYiY
01:42 bagira; that only happens at the f/oss conventions lol
01:42 TR Bot; Subtle Difference (Dutch West Babysode 21.1) - Invidious
01:43 starstreak; sounds like exactly what a freemason deserves
01:43 bagira; some of those nerds are seriously toxic online and then you meet them in person and they're so timid
01:43 bagira; starstreak, you talk alot about freemasons today, are you a mason?
01:44 starstreak; good lord, no
01:45 highest_cubist_thrills; are seriously toxic online and then you meet them in person and they're so timid <- they are men and women of letters
01:45 bagira; anyway, with the irc dicks that i make friends with at the convention, at the end of the second day i tell them im leaving and they want to exchange information, i shake their hand and say their first name as a question, and they say their last name and I say "Chris. Chris Punches."
01:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but mostly scarlet letters
01:46 MinceR; at least not Bloodletters
01:46 highest_cubist_thrills; rarely in any literal way
01:46 bagira; usually they're like "cool" but with the really toxic ones I see a wave of sudden confusion and a 50 yard stare, and an "oh, haha, cool, see ya"
01:46 bagira; and then they stare and i walk away lol
01:47 bagira; i did that to one of the fedora guys a few years back
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01:49 bagira; starstreak, you seem really adamant about that. what's your issue with the masons anyway
01:51 starstreak; bagira, world domination?
01:51 bagira; eh?
01:51 starstreak; freemasons work for the neanderthals
01:51 starstreak; underground
01:51 bagira; you think a decentralized entity is capable of world domination
01:51 starstreak; in the moho discontinuity
01:52 bagira; rofl is this some underground lizard people conspiracy theory
01:52 starstreak; the lizard people don't live underground
01:52 bagira; we had another person here who did the flat earth stuff too, i can't remember her name
01:52 bagira; i think it was pinky?
01:52 bagira; it was a woman
01:52 bagira; i can't recall her name
01:52 starstreak; britney
01:53 bagira; yeah that was it
01:53 starstreak; thats me
01:53 bagira; you and britney would get along, you're both batshit
01:53 MinceR; pinky and the brain
01:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i though you hated flat earth
01:53 bagira; oh i didn't realize you were the same batshit person
01:53 starstreak; flat earth is garbage
01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; people who take the bible too literally are holding it wrong
01:54 MinceR; hologram earth
01:54 starstreak; the moon might be a hologram
01:54 bagira; if that chick took an SSRI she'd be two episodes of sandman away from a rifle and a clocktower
01:54 MinceR; moon conspiracy
01:54 highest_cubist_thrills; https://github.com/earth/earth
01:54 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://github.com/earth/earth )
01:55 starstreak; MinceR, yeah exactly, the moon matrix
01:55 starstreak; the moon brainwashes people
01:55 bagira; lol
01:55 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> moon conspiracy <- i mooned the westboro baptists once
01:55 MinceR; DO NOT LOOK AT THE MOON
01:56 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M75VLQuFPrY
01:56 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=M75VLQuFPrY
01:56 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | - Weather Service - Invidious
01:56 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eT4shwU4Yc4
01:56 TR Bot; "IT'S NOT A MOON" A Bad Lip Reading of Star Wars - Invidious
01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; they did a bad lip reading where they got mark hamill to voice han solo
01:57 highest_cubist_thrills; no i didnt mix them up
01:58 highest_cubist_thrills; he just wanted another go at his sister :>
01:59 MinceR; lol
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02:01 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fidD6wAB9xI
02:01 TR Bot; Spock's "Marsh Melon" Dispenser Revisited - Invidious
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02:06 frog; i watched an older documentary, "Nature - Clever Monkeys"
02:06 frog; this one, was difficult to acquire, wanted to order this, and BBC didn't sell the DVD
02:07 frog; and then, i found it, on amazon, and someone from Austrial shipped it, too several weeks
02:07 frog; it's one of the funniest and emotianl wild-life documentaries
02:08 frog; almost religious, whenever i am in bad mood
02:09 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo
02:09 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo
02:09 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo )
02:09 frog; another such exceptional documentary, was "Last Feast of the Crocodiles", this one was published on VHS tape, and not available for sale anymore
02:09 frog; gladly, someone uploaded this to youtube, and i could yt-dlp this, before it disappeared
02:10 frog; Australia, awful typos, tired
02:11 DaemonFC; https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/10/06/when-and-why-bivalent-boosters/
02:11 TR Bot; Why and when to get a bivalent booster | Hub
02:11 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs
02:11 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs
02:11 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs )
02:11 DaemonFC; Johns Hopkins blames low "bivalent COVID booster" uptake on lack of information.
02:11 DaemonFC; But it's like, every time the government says get another one, fewer people do.
02:12 DaemonFC; And you see that in other countries too, including Canada, the UK, all of them.
02:13 highest_cubist_thrills; freedom doesnt result in monoculture
02:14 highest_cubist_thrills; monoculture is a pretty good sign that freedom is lacking
02:14 highest_cubist_thrills; its not proof, its just good evidence
02:16 frog; this documentary, clever monkeys, shows, what being human really is, and how peverted and cruel society is in "EU"
02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; https://jvn.jp/en/jp/JVN55833077/index.html
02:18 highest_cubist_thrills; Published:2021/04/22 Last Updated:2021/04/22
02:18 TR Bot; JVN#55833077: yappa-ng vulnerable to cross-site scripting
02:19 frog; i think the interpretation of Darwin is misguided, and the understanding of evolution too is
02:19 frog; most species, don't just simply extinguish, and even when, it's humans who destroy their habitat
02:19 highest_cubist_thrills; https://sourceforge.net/projects/yappa-ng/ <- redirects to os:windows
02:19 TR Bot; Best Open Source Linux Multimedia Software 2022
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02:20 frog; i mean, many animals and wild-life, are that ridiculously mal-adapted by the defintion of darwin, and they live
02:20 highest_cubist_thrills; http://web.archive.org/web/20210308113828/https://sourceforge.net/projects/yappa-ng/
02:20 TR Bot; yet another php photo album-next gener. download | SourceForge.net
02:21 highest_cubist_thrills; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Yappa-ng <- dead link as of this year
02:21 TR Bot; Yappa-ng - Free Software Directory
02:22 frog; nonetheless, the political interpretation is turned 180degrees against the observation of what life is
02:22 frog; by that definition, life was best adapted to longest survival by turning into ashes and solid rock
02:23 frog; life had never evolved beyond primitive bacteria and single-cell organisms
02:24 frog; because, that's what's best adapted
02:25 frog; and that's too an observation, when watching those tiny clever monkeys, when they're playfull and excited about their life
02:27 frog; and then, there is monkey eating lizards, ordinary life, is softened to a comfort, with soy and laboratory meat nowadays
02:28 frog; i too observed, various documentaries about wild-life and nature, were spin-doctored and framed into ideology
02:29 frog; there was one, about elephants, they're not saying it was some mothers and grandmothers anymore, it's a matriarchy with the master matriarch
02:30 frog; for me, it's just giant elefants, with their offspring
02:36 frog; most animals and their intelligence, are underestimated
02:36 frog; they can't communicate with us, nor would most of them need to or want to do so
02:37 frog; and most humans, 99% of their time are occupied with rather boring tasks, eating, sleeping, excreting, just like any other animal
02:38 frog; however, "clever monkeys" documentary captured those bright moments, and all of the sudden i realized, tiniest capuchin monkeys already conduct pharmaceutical science
02:39 frog; searching for rare plants to rub themselves with, as insect repellant
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02:40 frog; they're using tools, chat with each other, i mean even the tiny ones of them, cover 99% of the human physiological and psychological abilities already
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02:42 frog; on the evolutional time scale, the difference between a tiny rodent and a human, that's no more than a blink of an eye
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02:42 frog; that's why, even prairee dogs, are a reminder of what humans are
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02:43 frog; in USA, some enjoy shooting prairee dogs for fun, i don't know what to think of this, youtube is full of this, sadists shooting prairee dogs
02:44 frog; they're not hunted for food, no moral outcry, that's not what i am thinking
02:44 frog; however, i am must mentally different, to those killing prairee dogs for fun
02:45 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:45 frog; just, i wouldn't do this, never
02:55 frog; i'll be thinking about oasis linux for a little why, tomorrow, gn.
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03:30 DaemonFC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-22h2-breaks-provisioning-with-0x800700b7-errors
03:30 TR Bot; Windows 11 22H2 breaks provisioning with 0x800700b7 errors
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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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04:23 highest_cubist_thrills; mc alternative: https://www.han.de/~werner/ytree.html
04:23 TR Bot; Ytree Home Page
04:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its available for archbtw https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ytree
04:24 TR Bot; AUR (en) - ytree
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04:41 DaemonFC; ffmpeg has pretty much walked off and stopped improving the AAC encoder much.
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04:41 DaemonFC; A lot of it is based on LAME.
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04:55 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/blizzard-tried-to-make-it-mandatory-to-have-a-phone-for-2fa-with-overwatch-2-and-wasnt-allowing-people-with-cheap-prepaid-plans-to-authenticate-2fa-is-kind-of-dumb-if-you-use-text-messaging/
04:55 TR Bot; Blizzard tried to make it mandatory to have a phone for 2FA with Overwatch 2, and wasnt allowing people with cheap prepaid plans to authenticate. 2FA is kind of dumb if you use text messaging. | BaronHK's Rants
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05:16 DaemonFC; TIL: If you're hiding from an out of state arrest warrant, go to Indiana. Indiana charges the requesting state the highest fee to process the papers to extradite you ($20,000) which is higher than even California ($17,500), and that's on top of the requesting state having to pay to come get you..
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16386429
05:38 TR Bot; Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking | Hacker News
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; good stuff. i know roy doesnt like hn (i havent been there in more than a year probably)
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and theres a lot of shilling that goes on there, but that thread is pretty good
05:58 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/il-governor-race/top-pritzker-bailey-debate-moments-everyone-will-be-talking-about
05:58 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:58 DaemonFC; Well, Bailey isn't really dumb.
05:59 DaemonFC; He says "I couldn't change that if I tried." on Illinois having the most permissive abortion laws in the country.
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.61
05:59 DaemonFC; And then hit Pritzker where it hurts. Crime, taxes, and failing schools.
06:02 DaemonFC; "UPDATE: An attacker with a large kitchen knife killed two people and wounded six others in stabbings along the Las Vegas Strip before being arrested Thursday."
06:02 DaemonFC; Ban knives! (In the UK and China especially.)
06:02 DaemonFC; The knives are killing people!
06:03 DaemonFC; It's the knives, not the criminals! The knives are all knives out!
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06:18 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
06:18 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
06:18 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
06:18 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:26 TR News; "Social media is abuzz lately over the prospect of cheating in tournament strategy games." https://learn.adafruit.com/cheekmate-wireless-haptic-communication?view=all | Source: Adafruit
06:26 TR Bot; Overview | Cheekmate - a Wireless Haptic Communication System | Adafruit Learning System
06:27 TR News; "The resulting silks, depending on how they had been dissolved, had properties that exceeded those of natural silks." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2341322-metal-enriched-silkworm-silk-is-one-of-the-strongest-materials-ever/ | Source: New Scientist
06:27 TR Bot; Metal-enriched silkworm silk is one of the strongest materials ever | New Scientist
06:27 TR News; "a chemistry professor and director of Sarafan ChEM-H on campus," https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/05/stanford-professor-carolyn-bertozzi-wins-nobel-prize-in-chemistry/ | Source: uni Stanford
06:27 TR Bot; Stanford professor Carolyn Bertozzi wins Nobel Prize in Chemistry
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; for some reason, the maintainer of this http://x3270.bgp.nu/ is doing the windows version at github
06:29 TR Bot; x3270
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; not the other versions, theyre based on sourceforge
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; i havent checked the dates to make a more informed guess as to whether more or all of the project will move to github
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06:53 TR News; "A jury found Joe Sullivan guilty of obstruction of proceedings of the FTC and misprision of felony" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3676599-former-uber-exec-convicted-in-hacking-coverup/ | Source: The Hill
06:53 TR Bot; Former Uber exec convicted in hacking cover-up | The Hill
06:53 TR News; Openwashing https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/06/french-open-source-cybersecurity-startup-crowdsec-raises-13-7m/ | Source: Silicon Angle
06:53 TR Bot; open-source cybersecurity startup CrowdSec raises $13.7M - SiliconANGLE
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06:56 TR News; "We have released LibreSSL 3.6.0, which will be arriving in the LibreSSL directory of your local OpenBSD mirror soon." https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=166502585704477&w=2 | Source: Mailing list ARChives
06:56 TR Bot; 'LibreSSL 3.6.0 released' - MARC
06:56 TR News; "Signalling another turn of the seasons, Brent Cook (bcook@) announced that a new release of LibreSSL is out. The announcement reads: [...]" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20221006105921 | Source: Undeadly
06:56 TR Bot; LibreSSL 3.6.0 released
06:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D721.jpg
06:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D376.jpg
06:58 TR News; "I walk into the Computer Room at Chez Boca to find a box sitting on my chair. It's a sealed and empty box that was shipped to me via https://www.fedex.com/ [1]. It can only mean one thingit's the box to ship Belial, the annoying Mac Laptop [2] back to The Enterprise." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/06.1
06:58 TR Bot; Global Home - Select Your Location
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.61
07:02 TR News; "The root of the FBIs interest in Monroe was her romantic involvement with Miller, which began as a secret affair but grew into a media spectacle." https://www.teenvogue.com/story/marilyn-monroe-monitored-fbi | Source: Teen Vogue
07:02 TR Bot; The FBI Monitored Marilyn Monroe Over Suspected Communist Ties | Teen Vogue
07:02 TR News; "Speaking of your home, your address is connected to your name all over the web along with your age, cellphone or landline number" https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/komando/2022/10/06/remove-personal-data-from-people-search-sites/8179864001/ | Source: Gannett
07:02 TR Bot; How to remove personal data from the top seven people search sites
07:02 TR News; "The lawsuit built on the 2020 complaint filed by the Arizona Attorney General over location data collection" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/google-pays-85-mn-to-settle-location-tracking-data-lawsuit-in-us/94674948 | Source: India Times
07:02 TR Bot; google: Google pays $85 mn to settle location tracking data lawsuit in US, CIO News, ET CIO
07:02 TR News; "The company's alleged activity includes having listening devices secretly placed inside people's cars and homes." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63164654 | Source: BBC
07:02 TR Bot; Elton John and Prince Harry sue Daily Mail publisher over 'privacy breach' - BBC News
07:04 TR News; "The new plants, valued at $4 billion, will be located near Big Rapids and in western Wayne County" https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/michigan-lands-two-more-ev-battery-plants-bringing-4000-jobs | Source: Bridge Michigan
07:04 TR Bot; Michigan lands two more EV battery plants, bringing up to 4,000 jobs | Bridge Michigan
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07:07 TR News; Social control media https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4676645 | Source: Taiwan News
07:07 TR Bot; Letter to Editor: Social media movements against China, Russia's disinformation campaigns | Taiwan News | 2022-10-04 20:30:00
07:07 TR News; "yellow umbrellas -- a symbol of protest in Hong Kong" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/the-censor-cannot-hold-the-pressure-of-controlling-chinas-internet/94694630 | Source: India Times
07:07 TR Bot; internet censorship: The censor cannot hold: The pressure of controlling China's internet, CIO News, ET CIO
07:09 TR News; "When was the last time you've read an amicus brief?" https://www.engadget.com/the-onion-amicus-brief-supreme-court-050425219.html | Source: Engadget
07:09 TR Bot; Onion' filed a real brief with the Supreme Court supporting man jailed for making fun of cops | Engadget
07:09 TR News; "But the Paris appeal court revised the decision and knocked 728 million from the fine, meaning Apple still faces having to pay 370 million euros." https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1975718.html | Source: RTL
07:09 TR Bot; RTL Today - Big bite out of apple: Apple wins 728-mn-euro cut to France antitrust fine
07:11 TR News; (NEW): LibreSSL 3.6.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/LibreSSL_3_6_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/LibreSSL_3_6_0_released.gmi
07:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreSSL 3.6.0 released
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07:13 TR News; "The day is finally here. Valve has removed the reservation queue for the Steam Deck, so you can buy it right now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/no-more-steam-deck-reservation-queue-m-buy-it-now-plus-docking-station-available/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:13 TR Bot; more Steam Deck reservation queue buy it now, plus Docking Station available | GamingOnLinux
07:13 TR News; "It needs to hurry up and be 2023 so I can play the full game of Cassette Beasts" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/cassette-beasts-is-a-wonderful-take-on-monster-catching/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:13 TR Bot; Beasts is a wonderful take on monster catching | GamingOnLinux
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07:16 TR News; "Love pain? Want to make your life difficult? Good news for you then as Dead Cells now has a fresh upgrade out with a Boss Rush mode so you can sweat against the toughest." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/dead-cells-now-has-a-boss-rush-mode-if-you-like-pain/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR Bot; Cells now has a Boss Rush mode if you like pain | GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR News; "Love your classic racing games with low-poly visuals?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/formula-retro-racing-world-tour-is-a-fresh-upcoming-low-poly-racer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR Bot; Retro Racing - World Tour is a fresh upcoming low-poly racer | GamingOnLinux
07:17 TR News; "RimWorld is set to get even bigger with the upcoming Biotech expansion that releases in a few weeks, along with a major free update for all players." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/rimworld-biotech-expansion-announced-and-a-big-free-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:17 TR Bot; - Biotech expansion announced and a big free update | GamingOnLinux
07:17 TR News; "SteamOS 3.3.2 and a Steam Deck Client Update are out now, pulling together all the recent Beta / Preview updates and putting them out for everyone. Here's what's new." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steamos-332-and-a-stable-steam-deck-client-update-are-out-now-heres-whats-new/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:17 TR Bot; 3.3.2 and a Stable Steam Deck Client Update are out now, here's what's new | GamingOnLinux
07:17 TR News; "Transport Layer Security (TLS) is a cryptographic protocol based on SSLv3 designed to encrypt and decrypt traffic between two sites." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/dynamically-update-tls-certificates-golang-server-no-downtime | Source: OpenSource.com
07:17 TR Bot; update TLS certificates in a Golang server without downtime | Opensource.com
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 TR News; "Keeping a tab on your SSL certificates is a crucial part of a sysadmin's job." https://linuxhandbook.com/check-certificate-openssl/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:20 TR Bot; How to Check Certificate with OpenSSL
07:20 TR News; "Being one of the most popular text editors, Vim also influences other modern text editors." https://linuxhandbook.com/install-vim-plugins/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:20 TR Bot; How to Install and Use Vim Plugins
07:21 TR News; "Secure Shell (SSH) is a widely adopted network protocol, which allows us to interact with remote hosts in a secure way." https://www.tecmint.com/ssh-command-usage/ | Source: TecMint
07:21 TR Bot; Most Common SSH Command Usage and Configuration in Linux
07:21 TR News; "The WHLE-LS1 is a Single Board Computer (SBC) powered by QorIQ Layerscape processors targeting networking and industrial applications." https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
07:21 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ )
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07:36 TR News; FB WhatsApp https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11287193/Mets-new-chief-warns-racist-cops-rooted-memes-WhatsApp-group-revealed.html
07:36 TR Bot; Met's new chief warns racist cops 'you will be rooted out' - as memes in WhatsApp group are revealed | Daily Mail Online
07:36 TR News; Onion https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/20221003125252896_35295545_1-22.10.03%20-%20Novak-Parma%20-%20Onion%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf
07:38 psydruid; https://www.lansweeper.com/itam/is-your-business-ready-for-windows-11/
07:38 TR Bot; Windows 11 Readiness Check - Is Your Business Ready for Windows 11?
07:38 TR News; old: Graphical User Interface Gallery http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html
07:38 TR Bot; Graphical User Interface Gallery
07:38 psydruid; barely any adoption of Vista 11
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; no sales, either
07:41 TR News; Chatkontrolle - Kampagnenvideo - Invidious https://yewtu.be/cpGSqroLomg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/https://yewtu.be/cpGSqroLomg
07:41 TR Bot; Chatkontrolle - Kampagnenvideo - Invidious
07:41 TR News; The Loop - Jacob Ward https://jacobward.com/theloop/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jacobward.com/theloop/
07:41 TR Bot; The Loop Jacob Ward
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07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; found another traitor in fsd fork: andy stewart
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; /me removes from fork (part of the point is to track whats actually left of free software, not people who dont give a fuck about your freedom)
07:45 highest_cubist_thrills; xlog (nongnu) if youre curious
07:46 highest_cubist_thrills; its not surprising since hes a ham radio guy
07:46 highest_cubist_thrills; and ham radio guys seem to hate stallman
07:46 highest_cubist_thrills; NO CONNECTION TO GNU RADIO AT ALL im sure
07:46 highest_cubist_thrills; that project should be axed from gnu tbh
07:46 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre defrauding the trademark
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; pernes never disliked rms
07:47 highest_cubist_thrills; should be axed from gnu <- instead the fsf will let gnu die
07:47 highest_cubist_thrills; pernes never <- perens is involved with gnu radio?
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; no, ham radio
07:47 highest_cubist_thrills; never disliked rms <- i think thats mostly true. he certainly bitched about him A LOT in debian private
07:47 highest_cubist_thrills; no, ham radio <- fair enough
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; no, pernes spoke to rms
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; and people moaned about it
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; many messages about it
07:48 highest_cubist_thrills; you must be thinking of a different thread
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; and he insisted they closely follow fsf guidelines
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; then got blasted for it
07:48 highest_cubist_thrills; ah, yes
07:48 highest_cubist_thrills; and he insisted they closely follow fsf guidelines <- but
07:48 highest_cubist_thrills; at some point in SOME thread
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; perens definitely advocated taking debian away from fsf guidelines
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; and he was pissed too
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; now, this isnt a sin
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; in his shoes id have possibly done the same (especially at that time in history)
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; but im not sure i could confidently say "pernes never disliked rms"
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; he may or may not have
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; hes certainly no simon phipps, and thats great
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; ive tried to figure out perens forever
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i feel confident in saying i never will
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think hes a traitor
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; beyond that i really dont know
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; saying hes not a traitor when he authored the osd is charitable imo
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; but he was probably well intentioned
07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how the story goes. not much to show the story isnt true
07:53 TR News; "Since last Friday, four snapshots have been released." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/07/qemu-vim-up-in-tw/ |
07:53 TR Bot; QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; if you fall on the train tracks and the entire war effort fails as a result
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, thats still probably an innocent mistake
07:57 TR News; "pretending the license is sufficient" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:03:56
07:57 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022
08:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 77.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 100.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 84.28
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08:18 TR News; COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/
08:18 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October
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08:19 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Cassette Beasts, Dead Cells, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Games_Steam_Deck_Cassette_Beasts_Dead_Cells_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Games_Steam_Deck_Cassette_Beasts_Dead_Cells_and_More.gmi
08:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Cassette Beasts, Dead Cells, and More
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; /me thinks mjgs alignment is chaotic neutral, but would rather know more from someone who knows d&d like mincer
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; if he tries to do good his principles sure take him to some odd fucking places
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; he may think hes doing good and that may be a motivator, but imo his ambivalent towards any evil on his side of whatever
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08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; hes also a bit authoritarian, but at most an anti-authoritarian authoritarian
08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; chaotic neutral. of course that sounds charitable, doesnt it
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08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont really think it matters to him (he may think it does) what kind of chaos it is. i just dont buy it.
08:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Your government might be discouraging testing too.
08:33 DaemonFC; I don't know. I can only say what I've witnessed here, and if Illinois doesn't want to know about COVID anymore, I doubt any other state does.
08:34 DaemonFC; Prickster is trying to make us all forget the last two years even happened, and not just COVID, but the "dump all the rapists and kiddie diddlers back out on the streets" bill the Democrats passed.
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08:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was watching a PBS Frontline report about fish oil.
08:45 DaemonFC; They were trying to say it didn't really help.
08:46 DaemonFC; But I noticed when I began taking it, my HDL and triglyceride profile improved quite a bit, but it took a statin to get the LDL-C down.
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08:49 techuser; hi
08:51 DaemonFC; Hello
08:52 highest_cubist_thrills; morning matteobin
08:52 matteobin; Good morning! I'm testing a new IRC client
08:53 matteobin; https://tools.suckless.org/ii/
08:53 TR Bot; tools | suckless.org software that sucks less
08:53 highest_cubist_thrills; awesome
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; we use that a lot
08:53 matteobin; It's pretty cool.
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; techrights-ipfs-bot and techrights-news run ii
08:54 highest_cubist_thrills; /me uses the suckless window manager
08:54 matteobin; I'll have to alias echo to out files or something, but it's a nice toy.
08:54 TR News; (NEW): Pros and Cons of Using Btrfs Filesystem in Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Pros_and_Cons_of_Using_Btrfs_Filesystem_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Pros_and_Cons_of_Using_Btrfs_Filesystem_in_Linux.gmi
08:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Pros and Cons of Using Btrfs Filesystem in Linux
08:55 TR News; (NEW): QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QEMU_Vim_update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QEMU_Vim_update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi
08:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed
08:55 TR News; (NEW): ODROID-Go Ultra Amlogic S922X portable gaming console and devkit launched for $111 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/ODROID_Go_Ultra_Amlogic_S922X_portable_gaming_console_and_devki.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/ODROID_Go_Ultra_Amlogic_S922X_portable_gaming_console_and_devki.gmi
08:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines ODROID-Go Ultra Amlogic S922X portable gaming console and devkit launched for $111
08:55 DaemonFC; Didn't Matt GULAG criticize suckless or something a while back?
08:55 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.gmi
08:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
08:55 matteobin; You should try it, techuser since you don't like bloat!
08:56 DaemonFC; I'm normally on HexChat or ChatZilla.
08:56 matteobin; Who is Matt GULAG?
08:56 techuser; hope my motivation ever gets fixed
08:57 DaemonFC; <matteobin> Who is Matt GULAG?
08:57 DaemonFC; Matthew Garrett
08:57 matteobin; techuser: if you need help, just ask, I'm here.
08:57 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg, the guy who won the free software award for suckyour boot
08:57 techuser; no idea if I can be helped
08:57 techuser; and if I will recognize the help as real help
08:57 DaemonFC; mjg59_ appropriately sounds a lot like Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf if you listen to him.
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; he used to work for google, which roy calls gulag
08:58 matteobin; Everyone can be helped
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; im not so sure
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; from a christian perspective, i suppose anyone can be saved
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but im agnostic
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 163.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.58
09:02 matteobin; Well, maybe not really everyone because we don't have enought time. However I'm pretty positive about techuser.
09:02 DaemonFC; <highest_cubist_thrills> from a christian perspective, i suppose anyone can be saved
09:02 techuser; highest_cubist_thrills is however negative towards me
09:03 techuser; he probably ignores me
09:03 DaemonFC; Some say that blasphemy is unforgivable.
09:03 TR News; In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/
09:03 TR Bot; Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: pendemic is over-biden
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; *pandemic
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; biden is over
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; or his credibility
09:03 techuser; it is because I dislike the failing FSF and whoever manages it rn
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; Dems need to change candidate for 2024
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; or elese..
09:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The pandemic is over. Be sure to get your 5th shot. -Biden
09:03 techuser; and thus I signed the "anti-RMS letter"
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; a senile-covidiot cannot stay in poer for long
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; Dems need to change candidate for 2024 <- hahaha
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; pretending the party gives a shit if americans live or die
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: congrats, you signed LIES.
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a good one
09:04 DaemonFC; Biden was never meant to win in the first place.
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; dems only care whos turn it is
09:04 DaemonFC; The Democrats ran Biden because they expected to lose.
09:05 techuser; maybe lies, but the purpose was to remove the people
09:05 highest_cubist_thrills; thats why they voted for hillary when the voters wanted bernie
09:05 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont give a fuck what the voters want
09:05 DaemonFC; No, they don't.
09:05 DaemonFC; I voted for Sanders twice.
09:05 matteobin; Poor Stallman! He didn't deserve that hate letter.
09:05 highest_cubist_thrills; you the the motion picture academy gives two shits who the fans want to get the oscar?
09:05 DaemonFC; The second time was in 2020, when Illinois rushed to have the most corrupt primary in state history.
09:06 TR News; OAN (Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/conspiracy-channel-oan-tries-to-survive-using-over-the-air-antennas/ | Source: Techdirt
09:06 TR Bot; Channel OAN Tries To Survive Using Over The Air Antennas | Techdirt
09:06 highest_cubist_thrills; Poor Stallman! He didn't deserve that hate letter <- he never did, but it wasnt just about stallman (it was mostly about stallman)
09:06 highest_cubist_thrills; it was also about all of his followers
09:06 DaemonFC; In the middle of the "emergency stay at home order", they yanked the polling booths out of the nursing homes, and then said you had to vote in person and they had hand sanitizer.
09:06 highest_cubist_thrills; it pushed the overton window for the free software movement away from free software.
09:06 DaemonFC; That's literally what the radio ads said!
09:07 DaemonFC; They had hand sanitizer available at the polling places.
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; imo they killed it. thats why you get rid of a founder
09:07 DaemonFC; :)
09:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Oh well if you have hand sanitizer, what the hell?
09:07 techuser; I don't think free software movement should be led by a single, now suspicious, entity
09:07 techuser; techrights people say some of its evils
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; /me waited a few years to see if it was any better than that
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09:08 DaemonFC; You couldn't find hand sanitizer for months. I resorted to making my own out of rubbing alcohol and aloe gel.
09:08 TR News; CNN https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/trump-sues-cnn-yet-again-and-its-as-dumb-if-not-dumber-than-his-previous-failed-lawsuits-against-cnn/ | Source: Techdirt
09:08 TR Bot; Sues CNN Yet Again And Its As Dumb, If Not Dumber, Than His Previous Failed Lawsuits Against CNN | Techdirt
09:09 TR News; UK regime outsourcing our health data to Microsoft, i.e. criminals from another country. Imagine the outrage if NHS and ONS data was outsourced to Chinese sites operating from China.
09:09 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 06, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/irc-log-061022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/irc-log-061022/
09:09 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 06, 2022 | Techrights
09:10 TR News; Data up to September 26th (not even October yet), based on yesterdays latest data. By now it must be approaching 10%. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/
09:10 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October
09:10 TR News; So about 1,000 more people die each month this year (compared to last year, which was also a COVID year). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/
09:10 TR Bot; Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year
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09:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You figure the updated COVID shots are worth anything? The British went a different way on this than we did.
09:13 DaemonFC; The updated boosters there are targeting an older strain.
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; there is no one singgle set of them
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; but several companies
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; with several "products"
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09:15 schestowitz[TR]; several patent pools
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; and we don't even know the overlap
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; as they keep the recipes secret
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09:16 schestowitz[TR]; so you cannot speak about the boosters as though they're just one product
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; there's vaccine and patent nationalism
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> The updated boosters there are targeting an older strain.
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09:16 schestowitz[TR]; they say a NEW strain is now emerging
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; and was dectwctd recenttly
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; not shocking given the policy of "let's just spread this thing" and give more placebos (4th, 5th shots)
09:17 mjg59_; Demonstrably not placebos
09:17 mjg59_; Shouldn't this be in #techpol?
09:18 DaemonFC; Why? Because San Francisco loads a page hosted by Microsoft?
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09:18 DaemonFC; Their own graph shows that for most of the duration, the group that was unvaccinated didn't do that much worse, with the exception of the spike last winter.
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09:19 schestowitz[TR]; when you start giving peopel THAT many doses, then demostrably they are no better than plabebos
09:19 mjg59_;
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; a study in 2021 showed the 4th doses did not improve over the 3rd
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; for large sets of old people
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; some with 3, some with 4
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; the companies went eahead and administered more doses anyway
09:19 DaemonFC; Yeah, I didn't take the 4th shot until they updated the formulation and I told Mandy not to either.
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; more patented vaccines
09:20 mjg59_; There are plenty of studies demonstrating that additional boosters an appropriate amount of time after a previous booster or infection continues to reduce the probability of hospitalisation
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 mjg59_; Which is something a placebo wouldn't
09:20 DaemonFC; They tried to stick him with it down at the health department until I read them the riot act.
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; a placebo does mnore harm than good
09:20 DaemonFC; Why would we take risk without benefit?
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; it gievs peopl e a false sense of safety, confidence
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; then we have covidiots out here not keepiing distance or wearing masks
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; and they jeopardise those who assess the threat properly
09:21 DaemonFC; I haven't been wearing a mask for months.
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; brb coffeee
09:21 mjg59_; DaemonFC: The SF numbers have always shown unvaccinated people having covid at 2x the case rate as the vaccinated population, and it's currently 3x
09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; wait until he says that a biologist wouldnt know anything about this
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09:21 schestowitz[TR]; to be clear
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; i did not say the vaccines are plabebos
09:21 mjg59_; You said they were no better than placebos
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; the 5th or 6ht or whatnot are barely distinguishable from placebos
09:21 DaemonFC; Right, you're saying when they give people the same shot 4 times, the effect fades away.
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; they just give more and mroore of the same
09:21 mjg59_; Yeah, that's just not true
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; like the song
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; "the drugs ain't working"
09:22 DaemonFC; The additional benefit of each additional shot fades away.
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; "let's have more of them"
09:22 DaemonFC; It's basically just risk at some point.
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; /me thinks roys character alignment is chaotic stupid, but thats not a thing
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; studies are on my side
09:22 mjg59_; They're very clearly not
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; studies from december 2021 as well
09:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So if a 4th shot of the original vaccine was such a good idea, why did the US CDC say only take it if you're old or have HIV or something?
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; polio shot was done and had good effect
09:23 DaemonFC; If it would benefit everyone?
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; and als took longeer to deleop and test
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; in small sets, then bigger, than everyone
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; the US vaccine industry has turned this into a cjoke
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; we see this with monkeypox too
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; they don't even test
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; they just pretend to
09:23 DaemonFC; They failed to show me how taking a 4th dose of the original vaccine was a good risk/benefit proposition.
09:24 DaemonFC; So I didn't take it and I just waited until today to take the updated one as the 4th shot.
09:24 mjg59_; https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
09:24 TR Bot; CDC COVID Data Tracker
09:24 DaemonFC; It may as well be for something that's actually circulating NOW and not something that's old. You know, what's circulating now being "incredibly mutated".
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09:24 DaemonFC; That's like saying "Oh go get the flu shot from 2019. Same thing.".
09:25 highest_cubist_thrills; /me thinks roy and mjg could actually break up over this one
09:25 mjg59_; Deaths per 100,000 were 1/3 among people with two booster shots compared to one
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, lowering the bar for testing will harm confidence in vaccines in general
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; so that will kill people
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; more antivaxxers
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; who will start rejecting polio, measles vaccines
09:25 DaemonFC; Do you realize how stupid it is to be taking such an obsolete shot over and over again when that's not even what's circulating anymore?
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; and even flu
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; based on this perception that fda is not doing its job
09:26 DaemonFC; What's going around now that even looks remotely like the original COVID strain is probably like low single digit percentages of the caseload.
09:26 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Immune evasion doesn't imply *complete* immune evasion
09:26 DaemonFC; The government has left people playing "Choose Your Own Adventure" with COVID vaccines.
09:27 mjg59_; Antibodies developed against og covid still have /some/ response to the currently circulating varients
09:27 DaemonFC; Today they asked if I wanted the Pfizer or Moderna. I said "What does it say on the other doses on that card?". She goes "Pfizer.".
09:27 DaemonFC; I said, "So why would I want Moderna? Especially since that's the one that's making people REALLY sick after they take it?".
09:27 DaemonFC; I mean, hello.
09:27 mjg59_; Just going to point at https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status again, which pre-dates the bivalent boosters
09:27 highest_cubist_thrills; /me read that impeaching bolsonaro might help too
09:28 mjg59_; And demonstrates a clear reduction in deaths amongst people with two boosters
09:28 mjg59_; This is not "no better than a placebo"
09:28 mjg59_; It is something that significantly reduces the risk of death
09:29 mjg59_; Now, yes, there's a separate discussion about whether public health messaging concentrating on vaccines over behaviour is net harmful
09:29 DaemonFC; I didn't take Moderna's vaccine because they've never had a product before.
09:29 DaemonFC; And their vaccine is very obviously less safe.
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> Now, yes, there's a separate discussion about whether public health messaging concentrating on vaccines over behaviour is net harmful
09:30 highest_cubist_thrills; /me thinks mjg is just going to spank roy hard with this one, because one party has information and other, idfk...
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; I agree
09:30 DaemonFC; Of all of the really awful vaccine side effects I've heard of, I go "Which one did you take?" and it's always "Moderna".
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; agree to what's quoted
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; not highest_cubist_thrills
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; afaik, highest_cubist_thrills is against vaccines
09:30 DaemonFC; Moderna's vaccine is out there making people afraid to get vaccinated.
09:30 mjg59_; But that is *extremely* not the same as saying that the vaccines are no better than placebos
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; for human rights reasons
09:31 DaemonFC; Because they hear about this post-vaccination shit show, and it's Moderna's fault.
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; if I took flu shots 3 times a year, the third one is as good as placebo
09:31 mjg59_; Roy
09:31 mjg59_; Would you please look at the fucking graph
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; worse: it can cause more side effects than it's worse
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; the third one
09:32 highest_cubist_thrills; well, this is the sort of rhetoric you come up with when your goal is to please / convince everyone
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; *worth
09:32 DaemonFC; The third one six months later does raise the neutralizing antibody titer significantly.
09:32 mjg59_; I know it's a lot to ask you to actually examine facts
09:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> Would you please look at the fucking graph <- hes not going to let this be dictated by facts
09:32 DaemonFC; However, the "fourth dose" doesn't. So until you get an updated dose, which we have now, no reason to blow it.
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; talk to the mirror, we do present facts
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; my site presents facts all the time
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; using official data
09:32 mjg59_; But please, just this once, look at the picture and explain how the 2 booster line is lower than the 1 booster line if there's no benefit
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; from ONS, NHS..
09:33 highest_cubist_thrills; you really dont understand roys priorities here
09:33 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Have you looked at the graph on https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status ?
09:33 TR Bot; CDC COVID Data Tracker
09:33 highest_cubist_thrills; if you did, youd understand why this changes nothing
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; there is also a phantom effect
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; some people who are well off distance-wise (bigger homes, butlers) take more shots
09:34 mjg59_; That's a lovely just so story
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; but that's also s straw man
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; my position is this:
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; 1. we need BETTER vaccins
09:34 mjg59_; Also not sure how having a butler improves your social distancing
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; 2. nobody seems to pursue (1) because patents... complacemncy, lobbying..
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; 3. more data on safety is still needed, but suppressed
09:35 mjg59_; (2) is literally untrue? There's a bunch of research into vaccines delivered nasally, which is extremely promising
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; 4. more and more booster is more of the ssame... and the hard data shows we are NOT solving the problem
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09:35 schestowitz[TR]; 2022 was the worst COVID-19 year in the UK and in some other countries too
09:35 mjg59_; The hard data shows that additional boosters reduce deaths from covid
09:36 mjg59_; They do not compensate for reduction in behavioural changes that increase transmission rates
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; butler is one person
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; office space or shop can be like 100 people per day
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09:37 schestowitz[TR]; well, then consider letting more peopple work from home
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; that helps tackle climate change too
09:37 DaemonFC; mjg59_, You'll also notice the 18-49 death rate is basically nothing either way.
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; the best we did was in 2020
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; barely any covid cases and deaths
09:37 mjg59_; All else being equal, additional boosters save lives
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; because we kept the virus at bay
09:37 mjg59_; That's a fact
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; now it's a sea of covidiots and millions of nfections per month
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; my mom got 4 shots, infected probably 4 times already
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; it was 3 last I asked
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; polio vaccines don't "reduce the chance ofdeath"
09:38 mjg59_; Cool. If she hadn't had 4 shots, she might be dead.
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09:38 schestowitz[TR]; they reduce the infection with polio
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; if she stopped going around everywhere as if the pandemic is over, she would get it not even once
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; and would not be bed-bound like 7 times
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; one time for each synthetic dose
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; which does not prevent her getting is again and again
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; but that's one person
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; not a proper study
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; I've all along urged for change in policy
09:40 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Mom didn't get vaccinated. She got the flu at the same time. Wasn't vaccinated for that either.
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; while they figure out what remedies they have and how effective they actually are
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't want to do that./ patent heist.
09:40 DaemonFC; She's a nurse at a Catholic retirement home that said they don't care if you're vaccinated or not.
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; to me, experimental vaccines are just that
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; I get all the vaccines
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; experimental ones I assess
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; but for now
09:41 mjg59_; I feel like I've been pretty clear that allowing people to go back to "life as normal" is a terrible decision from the perspective of reducing covid transmission
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; I avoid getting the illnesses they claim to battle... and have thus far coped with poorly
09:41 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I feel like I've been pretty clear that allowing people to go back to "life as normal" is a terrible decision from the perspective of reducing covid transmission
09:41 mjg59_; That's an entirely separate question to whether the vaccines are no better than placebos
09:41 DaemonFC; They don't give a fucking shit, mjg59_ They want the economy open and they want it open NOW!
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; that's capitalism for you
09:41 highest_cubist_thrills; there are two possible positions here
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; and china is laughing all the way to te sweatshop
09:42 DaemonFC; They want football games and church again, in time for the election, mjg59_
09:42 highest_cubist_thrills; one is you agree with roy. the other is you dont
09:42 DaemonFC; Talk to Joe Brandon.
09:42 highest_cubist_thrills; these are the only variables that matter
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; one little wuhan virus... the west paralysed
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; and in the UK 1,000 MORE people now die each week
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; than last year
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe 2000+ more per week, than pre-covid
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; ain't that lovely?
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09:42 schestowitz[TR]; go watch football, lads
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; go shopping, ladies
09:42 highest_cubist_thrills; he and his mother disagree on this too. if not for that his position might be more nuanced
09:42 mjg59_; And how does that demonstrate vaccines being no better than placebos
09:43 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Notice how Governor Pritzker in Illinois blasted Ron DeSantis and other Republicans for doing the same thing Democrat governors do now? Ignore it and tell people to move on and shut down all the testing sites.
09:43 DaemonFC; Notice that?
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; they shut down the testing site near us
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09:43 schestowitz[TR]; as if there's nothing to be tested anymore
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; "safety threatre"
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09:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ironically he got to the placebos verdict the same way people got to stallman being horrible in a list of ways
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; we still have about 17 test kits here
09:44 DaemonFC; Right ahead of the election, the pandemic is over. Source: Democrats Why? Everyone is fucking pissed at their hyperinflation, dead economy, crime, and the fact that COVID is still raging on despite being told vaccines would end it.
09:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but this time that really is a coincidence. this isnt for your benefit, if you were someone else his position would be the same
09:44 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You are arguing against something I didn't say
09:44 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: to be clear:
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; what I said is "almost like placebo" is stuff like 5th shot
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; as that was brought up
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; as I have government research backing me on this
09:44 mjg59_; The numbers make it clear that you're wrong on that
09:45 DaemonFC; You have to actually update it to have it be worth taking more shots past like #3.
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; placebos can be harmful as they make people more reckless
09:45 highest_cubist_thrills; numbers are just like placeholders for ideas and concepts, man
09:45 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> placebos can be harmful as they make people more reckless
09:45 mjg59_; Ok, two cases:
09:45 DaemonFC; THIS!
09:45 mjg59_; 1) Someone shows up for shot #5, you give them saline
09:45 DaemonFC; mjg59_, schestowitz[TR] Like PrEP for HIV causing explosions of syphilis and everything else.
09:45 mjg59_; 2) Someone shows up for shot #5, you give them vaccine
09:45 highest_cubist_thrills; youre trying to reason with him again
09:45 DaemonFC; Nobody worries about HIV, so they take the condoms off.
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; even billBC opendly admitted people with all the vaccines are "just as infectious" as those with none
09:46 mjg59_; If they fall into category (2), they are less likely to die
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; sso I don't care if you got 10 doses
09:46 DaemonFC; The condoms come off, then they get syphilis or something.
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; wear a fucking mask
09:46 mjg59_; Therefore the vaccines are better than placebos
09:46 highest_cubist_thrills; reasoning works on some people
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; and keep away for a bit
09:47 TR News; FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/telecom-experts-tell-eu-leaders-their-plan-to-tax-big-tech-on-behalf-of-big-telecom-is-a-dumb-idea/ | Source: Techdirt
09:47 TR Bot; Experts Tell EU Leaders Their Plan To Tax Big Tech On Behalf of Big Telecom Is A Dumb Idea | Techdirt
09:47 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is trying to reason with mjg, but knows on this sort of category of thing it isnt possible either
09:48 highest_cubist_thrills; the difference is im doing it for fun. its still trying to reason, but its still fun even if its pointless.
09:49 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg: you made a drinking game recently
09:49 highest_cubist_thrills; this could inspire a few tbh
09:49 TR News; "For our seminar series on cross-disciplinary computing, it was a delight to host Genevieve Smith-Nunes this September" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/data-ethics-computing-education-ballet-biometrics-research-seminar/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
09:49 TR Bot; Data ethics for computing education through ballet and biometrics - Raspberry Pi
09:49 highest_cubist_thrills; 1. any time mjg tries to reason with roy and it doesnt work, drink
09:50 highest_cubist_thrills; 2. if hes actually right this time, and it still doesnt work, drink again
09:50 DaemonFC; Any time mjg59_ is Irish take another drink.
09:50 DaemonFC; When everyone in the room is dead except mjg59_ from alcohol poisoning, take another drink.
09:50 TR News; "Pornhub has discovered the 'holy grail' to combat piracy on user-generated content sites." https://torrentfreak.com/pornhub-sees-dmca-notices-vanish-after-enabling-uploader-verification-221006/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:50 TR Bot; Sees DMCA Notices Vanish After Enabling Uploader Verification * TorrentFreak
09:51 highest_cubist_thrills; 3. if roy pretends it isnt important and goes back to posting links, drink a third time
09:52 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: what is your own stance?
09:52 schestowitz[TR]; on vaccines?
09:52 schestowitz[TR]; (I know the answer)
09:52 TR News; Liz Trump versus science https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/06/prime-minister-liz-truss-accepted-5000-from-climate-denial-funder/ | Source: DeSmog
09:52 TR Bot; Minister Liz Truss Accepted 5,000 From Climate Denial Funder - DeSmog
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; 4. if playing this game makes you wake up in a strangers bed, have one more drink before your friends stage an intervention
09:53 TR News; World Bank: a threat to human survival https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/06/world-bank-financing-fossil-fuels-climate-crisis/ | Source: DeSmog
09:53 TR Bot; Bank Continues Financing Fossil Fuels Despite Climate Crisis - DeSmog
09:53 TR News; "There are a number of different tools out there that let you download YouTube videos." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/there-are-all-sorts-of-problems-with-ruling-that-youtube-ripping-tool-may-violate-copyright-law/ | Source: Techdirt
09:53 TR Bot; Are All Sorts Of Problems With Ruling That YouTube Ripping Tool May Violate Copyright Law | Techdirt
09:54 *schestowitz[TR] goes to do a blood test in 5 mins
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09:54 TR News; "Weve talked about Authentic Brands Group here a couple of times and never for good behavior." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/authentic-brands-group-behind-another-silly-parent-child-trademark-dispute/ | Source: Techdirt
09:54 TR Bot; Brands Group Behind Another Silly Parent, Child Trademark Dispute | Techdirt
09:55 TR News; Wisconsin https://www.propublica.org/article/wisconsin-election-midterms-voting-2022 | Source: Pro Publica, bribed by Bill Gates
09:55 TR Bot; How the Stolen Election Myth Helped Shaped Wisconsin Voting ProPublica
09:56 TR News; A lot of the so-called 'election denial' can be resolved by going back to paper ballots. It worked, it still works, but Microsoft and cronies don't profit from it.
09:56 TR News; "While we wish colleges and universities competed more on academics, we cant deny that more people are interested in their athletics programs." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/robot-blade-runner-turns-in-world-record-time/ | Source: Hackaday
09:56 TR Bot; Blade Runner Turns In World Record Time | Hackaday
09:57 TR News; "The President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko ordered a price freeze across all business sectors" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/starting-not-tomorrow-but-today-lukashenko-orders-price-freeze-in-belarus | Source: Meduza
09:57 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; xchm has moved from sourceforge to github, i guess
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; cant say i really need xchm, but there you have it
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; is mjg still trying to explain the difference between placebo effect and statistically significant lives saved
10:09 mjg59_; No, roy fucked off
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; ah yes, thats rule 3 in the drinking game
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; wait until d&d adds chaotic stupid
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; you know for a guy who can (probably) decompile firmware or something
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; youre not very good at figuring out what makes him tick
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; honestly he isnt that complicated
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; decompile firmware <- i dont pretend to know how it works
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 87.00
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11:51 TR News; (NEW): Essential DNF Commands for Linux Users [With Examples] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Essential_DNF_Commands_for_Linux_Users_With_Examples.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Essential_DNF_Commands_for_Linux_Users_With_Examples.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Essential DNF Commands for Linux Users [With Examples]
11:52 TR News; (NEW): What is KDE Connect? How Do You Use It? [Beginner's Guide] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/What_is_KDE_Connect_How_Do_You_Use_It_Beginner_s_Guide.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/What_is_KDE_Connect_How_Do_You_Use_It_Beginner_s_Guide.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines What is KDE Connect? How Do You Use It? [Beginner's Guide]
11:52 TR News; (NEW): EuroLinux Desktop Review: A Worthy Alternative to Ubuntu LTS? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EuroLinux_Desktop_Review_A_Worthy_Alternative_to_Ubuntu_LTS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EuroLinux_Desktop_Review_A_Worthy_Alternative_to_Ubuntu_LTS.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines EuroLinux Desktop Review: A Worthy Alternative to Ubuntu LTS?
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11:53 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.gmi
11:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
11:57 *schestowitz[TR] back
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; to be clear
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; my stance has always been consistent
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; early studies (on pfizer) showed that taking a fourth dose did not significantly improve survival over 3 shots
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; IIRC< they tested this on vulnerable age groups
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; they came to the conclusion, about 9 months ago, that fourth dose (more sales) did not merit promotion
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; that's aside from THIS year's "spring booster"
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; and adaptations made
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; they try to accomplish the impossible
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; so insistent on protecting "the system" and the "market" that they let the wuhan virus spread and mutate
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; and now we get many new variants
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; and vaccines cannot catch up with them
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; historically villages keps isolated
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; *kept
11:59 schestowitz[TR]; or kept away from outsiders because they brought new strains
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; in a globalised economy we're meant to let mutation just happen in the name of maintaining profits
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; this past summer was, objectively, worst
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; no matter if the mediam spins it
12:01 schestowitz[TR]; it's said the current strains spread a lot more easily than wuham virus
12:01 schestowitz[TR]; *wuhan virus was more deadly
12:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/
12:02 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October
12:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/
12:02 TR Bot; Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year
12:02 schestowitz[TR]; now back to tech
12:02 schestowitz[TR]; although vaccines are a sort of tech
12:02 schestowitz[TR]; just now what we deal with, except patent aspects
12:03 schestowitz[TR]; covbid-19 is trouble
12:03 schestowitz[TR]; some see covid-19 as JustAnother(R) business opportunity
12:04 TR News; "American democracy has been steadily eroding since the Reagan administration, Hedges says" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/06/your-democracy-has-been-stolen-for-a-long-time-w-chris-hedges-and-jimmy-dore/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:04 TR Bot; Democracy Was Stolen A Long Time Ago w/ Chris Hedges and Jimmy Dore - scheerpost.com
12:04 TR News; "On Saturday we try to put Hands Around Parliament in opposition to the extradition of Julian Assange." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/10/activist-saturday/ | Source: Craig Murray
12:04 TR Bot; Activist Saturday - Craig Murray
12:05 TR News; "With Julian Assangefacing extradition to the United States" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/06/mark-fiore-extradition-threatens-julian-assange-and-press-freedom/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:05 TR Bot; Fiore: Extradition Threatens Julian Assange (and Press Freedom) - scheerpost.com
12:05 MinceR; 07 092514 < highest_cubist_thrills> hes also a bit authoritarian, but at most an anti-authoritarian authoritarian
12:05 MinceR; lol wut
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> he may think hes doing good and that may be a motivator, but imo his ambivalent towards any evil on his side of whatever
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; I've known MinceR in IRC for over a decade, he's not authoritarian at all
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; he loathes authoritarians
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; and would rather do away with authorities
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12:08 TR News; Censorship: "Russias federal censor, Roskomnadzor, has restricted access to the site Ekho, a project of former employees of the radio station Ekho Moskvy" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/a-website-launched-by-the-staff-of-ekho-moskvy-has-been-blocked-in-russia | Source: Meduza
12:08 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:09 TR News; "Growing up, ours was a family of handwritten notes for every occasion." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/immersive-cursive-growing-up-loopy/ | Source: Hackaday
12:09 TR Bot; Cursive: Growing Up Loopy | Hackaday
12:09 MinceR; i thought that was matt gulag
12:09 TR News; "Last time, Ive shown you how to create a local Git repository around your PCB project." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/git-your-pcbs-online/ | Source: Hackaday
12:09 TR Bot; Your PCBs Online | Hackaday
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR liked to say "die in a fire"
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; but never threw anyone in a fire
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; there aree people who, if I saw them up in flames, I'd walk on by
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; they deserve both the pain and the death for what they did to others
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; when steve jobs died I spoke my mind out
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; only his slaves ("fans") were offended by that
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; he is still an idol to many necrophiles
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; jobs was not the worst of thr worst
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; but he was a net loss and liability to the planet
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; musk is too young to die, but as a kid his classmates nearly killed him
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; that's how much they hated him
12:14 TR News; Exploring The Cutting Edge Of Desktop ARM Hardwar https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/exploring-the-cutting-edge-of-desktop-arm-hardware/ | Source: Hackaday
12:14 TR Bot; The Cutting Edge Of Desktop ARM Hardware | Hackaday
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: ^
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; risc-v would be betetr though
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; arm is copying a lot of the malicious 'features'
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:31 TR News; "Egged on by adoring fans who demanded more aircraft videos" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/rubber-band-behemoth-winds-its-way-toward-world-record/ | Source: Hackaday
12:31 TR Bot; Band Behemoth Winds Its Way Toward World Record | Hackaday
12:32 TR News; "Weve seen a lot of clever re-imagining of the classic 7-segment display, and proving there is still room for something new is[Jack]s 7-segment DigiTag display." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/seven-segments-but-not-as-we-know-them/ | Source: Hackaday
12:32 TR Bot; Segments, But Not As We Know Them | Hackaday
12:35 TR News; Covid https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/texas-covid-money-operation-lone-star/ | Source: The Nation
12:35 TR Bot; Exclusive: Texas Governor Greg Abbott Used Covid Aid to Pay for a Border Wall | The Nation
12:43 TR News; "The 1990 publication of To the Friend Who Did Not Save My LifeHerve Guiberts candid roman a clef about a fake AIDS vaccine" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/my-manservant-herve-guibert/ | Source: The Nation
12:43 TR Bot; Herve Guibert's Last Laugh | The Nation
12:44 TR News; Amateur Radio https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/building-a-digital-library-of-amateur-radio-and-communications/ | Source: Hackaday
12:44 TR Bot; A Digital Library Of Amateur Radio And Communications | Hackaday
12:46 psydruid; if you are a prudent developer you write your code to work on multiple architectures so there will never be a situation like the one we have now with a duopoly effectively owning the market for high-end computing
12:50 TR News; IMF https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/imf-urged-unlock-650-billion-poor-nations-facing-crises-unprecedented-human-history | Source: Common Dreams
12:50 TR Bot; IMF Urged to Unlock $650 Billion for Poor Nations Facing Crises 'Unprecedented in Human History'
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: "choice" veruss freedom
12:54 TR News; "I like to think I'm an American success story." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/06/our-kids-and-our-future-we-must-fight-extend-childhood-tax-credit | Source: Common Dreams
12:54 TR Bot; Opinion | For Our Kids and Our Future, We Must Fight to Extend the Childhood Tax Credit | Maureen Bowling
12:58 TR News; 23 months after election, Bailout Biden it starting to recognise that just "not being Trump" isn't enough for decent approval rates and fist-bumping a Saudi terrorists won't assure cheap oil will continue to come
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 114.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.28
13:00 TR News; Claims of election fraud are partly the fault of Microsoft, Diebold etc. The election should never have been passed from paper ballots to private companies that fancy back doors and engage in corruption as a way of doing "business". The coup is the price paid for this.
13:01 TR News; Apple needs to go out of business https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ | Source: TruthOut
13:02 TR Bot; Apple Leads Smartphone Industry Into Anti-Consumer, Environmental Hell
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13:15 TR News; "For the week ending October 1, total initial jobless claims were 219,000, more than analysts expected and up from 190,000 the previous week." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/us-jobless-claims-jump-fed-shoves-economy-precipice-global-recession | Source: Common Dreams
13:15 TR Bot; US Jobless Claims Jump as Fed Shoves Economy to 'Precipice of Global Recession'
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13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; whatsapp https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/pavel-durov-criticizes-whatsapp-as-a-surveillance-tool-hackers-can-gain-full-access-to-the-phone-he-says | Source: Meduza
13:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
13:23 TR News; "A perpetual rumble is the grey backdrop of the street below our apartment. It is the sound of constant motoring. Even if no car or motorcycle or scooter is passing, it exists. The impression the flow of machines across my consciousness has made over the seeming centuries painted the backdrop" gemini://thurk.org/blog/579.gmi
13:23 TR News; If Gemini is a bicycle, the web is a bus gemini://idiomdrottning.org/if-gemini-is-a-bicycle
13:26 TR News; A seven-line summary of Geminis markup format gemini://idiomdrottning.org/gemtext-reference
13:31 TR News; Battelle https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/national-lab-promoting-digital-police-officer-fantasy-law-enforcement-and-border | Source: EFF
13:31 TR Bot; A National Lab Is Promoting a "Digital Police Officer" Fantasy for Law Enforcement and Border Control | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:32 TR News; Social control media https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/courts-decision-upholding-disastrous-texas-social-media-law-puts-state-rather | Source: EFF
13:32 TR Bot; Courts Decision Upholding Disastrous Texas Social Media Law Puts The State, Rather Than Internet Users, in Control of Everyones Speech Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:34 TR News; "This legislation updates the federal bankruptcy code to ensure student loan debt is treated like almost every other form of consumer debt." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/democrats-push-lift-ban-student-loan-bankruptcy-relief | Source: Common Dreams
13:34 TR Bot; Democrats Push to Lift Ban on Student Loan Bankruptcy Relief
13:37 TR News; "The Earth is on fire and the World Bank is one of the biggest arsonists in disguise." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/after-dumping-15-billion-fossil-fuels-world-bank-urged-stop-investing-climate | Source: Common Dreams
13:37 TR Bot; After Dumping $15 Billion Into Fossil Fuels, World Bank Urged to Stop 'Investing in Climate Disaster'
13:41 TR News; Stadias closure WILL impact Deck gamers! (Plus other Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a_gsCF4Rzks | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/a_gsCF4Rzks
13:41 TR Bot; Stadias closure WILL impact Deck gamers! (Plus other Deck news) - Invidious
13:42 TR News; Easy or Hard https://xkcd.com/2682/
13:42 TR Bot; Easy or Hard
13:44 TR News; "The stats say that while Windows 11 has been publicly available for the past year, only 2.61% of Windows machines are running it." https://www.maketecheasier.com/windows-11-adoption-stats-less-than-3-percent/
13:44 TR Bot; Windows 11 Adoption Stats Less Than 3% of Machines - Make Tech Easier
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; lol
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; worse than I thought
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; start of year it was 1%
13:46 TR News; 13 Quick Tips to Make Linux File Manager Nautilus Even Better - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ia2CaItxTEk | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Ia2CaItxTEk
13:46 TR Bot; 13 Quick Tips to Make Linux File Manager Nautilus Even Better - Invidious
13:47 TR News; Xubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L0ipfO2axyI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/L0ipfO2axyI
13:47 TR Bot; Xubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:21 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at Linux Lite 6.2 RC1." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TJYFiOpYuQI
14:21 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.2 RC1 Run Through - Invidious
14:22 TR News; Why I Regret Buying the Steam Deck Reaction - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B58jbgzT7Qo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/B58jbgzT7Qo
14:22 TR Bot; Why I Regret Buying the Steam Deck *Reaction* - Invidious
14:23 TR News; "oday we will return to our Thursday live show and talk about random topics and some future channel directions." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tBVzflIqWL0
14:23 TR Bot; Linux Hangout and Future Directions - Invidious
14:26 TR News; "Gulag has launched its new line of tracking devices, along with the first Pixel watch and earbuds." https://itwire.com/mobility/google-launches-watch,-next-generation-of-pixel-smartphones.html
14:26 TR Bot; - Google launches watch, next generation of Pixel smartphones
14:27 TR News; "Linux doesnt guarantee 100% online safety." Neither does PIA. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/pia-vpn-linux-app/
14:27 TR Bot; PIA VPN Linux App: Unlimited Power | PIA Blog
14:31 TR News; (NEW): Screencasts: Xubuntu 22.10 Beta and Linux Lite 6.2 RC1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Screencasts_Xubuntu_22_10_Beta_and_Linux_Lite_6_2_RC1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Screencasts_Xubuntu_22_10_Beta_and_Linux_Lite_6_2_RC1.gmi
14:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Screencasts: Xubuntu 22.10 Beta and Linux Lite 6.2 RC1
14:32 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Nautilus, Steam Deck, Linux Action News, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Videos_and_Shows_Nautilus_Steam_Deck_Linux_Action_News_The_Linu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Videos_and_Shows_Nautilus_Steam_Deck_Linux_Action_News_The_Linu.gmi
14:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Nautilus, Steam Deck, Linux Action News, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More
14:33 TR News; Uganda named worst digital rights violator https://observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator Source: The Observer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator
14:33 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator )
14:34 TR News; Snal Linux 1.22 released https://snallinux.sourceforge.io/ https://sourceforge.net/p/snallinux/wiki/Home/
14:34 TR Bot; Linux download | SourceForge.net
14:34 TR Bot; Snal Linux / Wiki / Home
14:39 TR News; Say HEY HI a million times, get millions https://venturebeat.com/ai/ai-powered-supply-chain-visibility-boosted-as-altana-raises-100m/
14:39 TR Bot; supply chain visibility boosted as Altana raises $100M | VentureBeat
14:39 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, ARM, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ARM_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ARM_and_More.gmi
14:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, ARM, and More
14:50 TR News; Proprietary trash, shameless self-promotion: "Bill Reynolds, a DevOps engineer on UWMs platform automation team, co-authored this piece." https://containerjournal.com/features/how-uwm-optimizes-containerization-with-kubernetes/
14:50 TR Bot; How UWM Optimizes Containerization With Kubernetes - Container Journal
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14:53 matteo-bini; test
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; ack
14:58 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.gmi
14:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
14:59 TR News; [GIT PULL for v6.1-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221005102323.4f751c1a@sal.lan/
14:59 TR Bot; [GIT PULL for v6.1-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.26
14:59 TR News; Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) - Greg KH https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yz%2FZWBeNZvKenEVM@kroah.com/ "I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel."
14:59 TR Bot; Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) - Greg KH
15:00 TR News; "please pull the x86/cpu lineup for 6.1." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvzxYCBAPX47PTf@zn.tnic/
15:00 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] x86/cpu for 6.1 - Borislav Petkov
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15:02 TR News; "But a lot of Web sites demand SMS text messaging, which isnt even secure." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/blizzard-tried-to-make-it-mandatory-to-have-a-phone-for-2fa-with-overwatch-2-and-wasnt-allowing-people-with-cheap-prepaid-plans-to-authenticate-2fa-is-kind-of-dumb-if-you-use-text-messaging/
15:02 TR Bot; Blizzard tried to make it mandatory to have a phone for 2FA with Overwatch 2, and wasnt allowing people with cheap prepaid plans to authenticate. 2FA is kind of dumb if you use text messaging. | BaronHK's Rants
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15:04 TR News; Gulag is not investing, it is colonising. It's not Ubuntu. https://qz.com/google-s-africa-investments-hinge-on-ubuntu-1849625571
15:04 TR Bot; Googles Africa investments hinge on the spirit of Ubuntu
15:05 TR News; iTWire - Maurice Blackburn files OAIC complaint over Optus data breach https://itwire.com/security/maurice-blackburn-files-oaic-complaint-over-optus-data-breach.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/maurice-blackburn-files-oaic-complaint-over-optus-data-breach.html
15:05 TR Bot; - Maurice Blackburn files OAIC complaint over Optus data breach
15:05 TR News; iTWire - Crowds to gather on Saturday to press for Assange freedom https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/crowds-to-gather-on-saturday-to-press-for-assange-freedom.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/crowds-to-gather-on-saturday-to-press-for-assange-freedom.html
15:05 TR Bot; - Crowds to gather on Saturday to press for Assange freedom
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15:08 TR News; (NEW): Debian 12 Picks Up Ubuntu's Triple Buffering Patch for GNOME http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Debian_12_Picks_Up_Ubuntu_s_Triple_Buffering_Patch_for_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Debian_12_Picks_Up_Ubuntu_s_Triple_Buffering_Patch_for_GNOME.gmi
15:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian 12 Picks Up Ubuntu's Triple Buffering Patch for GNOME
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15:15 TR News; It looks like the editor of ZDNet only works 2 or at most 3 times a week. This makes the site unable to publish news. By the time of publication it's already days out of date. ZDNet operates on low budget and it'll die.
15:15 MinceR; does zdnet publish news anyway? :>
15:16 schestowitz[TR]; not really
15:16 schestowitz[TR]; vista 11 celebrations
15:16 schestowitz[TR]; 2.5% market share after more than a year
15:17 schestowitz[TR]; zdnet=spam
15:17 MinceR; lol
15:17 TR News; "The Open Build Service (OBS) is a generic system to build and distribute packages from sources in an automatic, consistent and reproducible way. It makes it possible to release software for a wide range of operating systems and hardware architectures." https://www.suse.com/c/multi-factor-authentication-on-suses-build-service/
15:18 TR Bot; authentication on SUSE's Build Service | SUSE Communities
15:19 TR News; SUSE keeps promoting proprietary software like SAP instead of "Linux"; for hosting it keeps promoting foreign and hostile companies like Microsoft https://www.suse.com/c/benefits-and-cost-savings-of-the-suse-and-intel-server-platform-for-sap-environments/
15:19 TR Bot; the benefits and cost savings of the SUSE and Intel Server Platform for SAP Environments | SUSE Communities
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_leftovers.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
15:31 TR News; Links 07/10/2022: LibreSSL 3.6.0 and VIsta 11 at Only 2.61% Market Share After 15 Months | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/libressl-3-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/libressl-3-6-0/
15:31 TR Bot; Links 07/10/2022: LibreSSL 3.6.0 and VIsta 11 at Only 2.61% Market Share After 15 Months | Techrights
15:43 TR News; If only teaching paid more than it does gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/11.2
15:44 TR News; Personal Training gemini://spoony.smol.pub/personal-training
15:45 TR News; "I quit my job and after one year Im unhappy, poorer and undisciplined :(" gemini://dk.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-07.gmi
15:47 TR News; Making my Blog Mobile-Friendly gemini://raek.se/gemlog/2022-10-07-making-my-blog-mobile-friendly.gmi
15:48 TR News; SpellBinding: AEMNRVU Wordo: GOEST gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-07.gmi
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15:58 TR News; Tar Command in Linux with Practical Examples https://www.linuxtechi.com/tar-command-in-linux-with-examples/ Source: LinuxTechi | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxtechi.com/tar-command-in-linux-with-examples/
15:58 TR Bot; Tar Command in Linux with Practical Examples
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15:59 TR News; iTWire - New firm aims to help Huawei avoid US sanctions: claim https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/new-firm-aims-to-help-huawei-avoid-us-sanctions-claim.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/technology-regulation/new-firm-aims-to-help-huawei-avoid-us-sanctions-claim.html
15:59 TR Bot; - New firm aims to help Huawei avoid US sanctions: claim
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16:02 TR News; Can you become the next Trombone Champ? | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/can-you-become-the-next-trombone-champ/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/can-you-become-the-next-trombone-champ/
16:02 TR Bot; Can you become the next Trombone Champ? | Arduino Blog
16:03 TR News; (NEW): Nala A Neat Structured Frontend for APT Package Manager http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Nala_A_Neat_Structured_Frontend_for_APT_Package_Manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Nala_A_Neat_Structured_Frontend_for_APT_Package_Manager.gmi
16:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Nala A Neat Structured Frontend for APT Package Manager
16:06 TR News; Offline spam: Qt to help put ads inside software https://www.qt.io/blog/8-tips-for-improving-ux-with-qts-digital-advertising
16:06 TR Bot; 8 Tips for Improving UX with Qt's Digital Advertising Platform
16:14 TR News; Qt for Android Automotive 6.2.6 https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-android-automotive-6.2.6
16:14 TR Bot; Qt for Android Automotive 6.2.6
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:31 TR News; 70: Razer and Logitech Put Steam Deck On Notice? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-70/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-70/
16:31 TR Bot; Razer and Logitech Put Steam Deck On Notice? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital
16:32 TR News; "Chris Raspberry Pi server is dead, and Alex has a few ideas for his next build." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/self-hosted/81/
16:32 TR Bot; The Badger Stack | Jupiter Broadcasting
16:34 TR News; Atom is dead, bloated, and controlled by Microsoft, which formally abandoned it; what's the point giving it such promotion? https://www.ubuntupit.com/atom-vs-sublime/
16:34 TR Bot; Atom vs Sublime: Most Significant Differences You Should Know
16:36 TR News; Asking Jim Zemlin what text editor he uses is like asking a Neanderthal what computer he or she uses. Zemlin has the technical skills of a 12 year old. http://techrights.org/2022/08/13/proprietary-keynote/
16:36 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Giving His Talks on an Apple Mac Again? (July 2022) | Techrights
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16:42 TR News; Learn programming at Open Jam 2022 | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/open-jam-2022 Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/open-jam-2022
16:42 TR Bot; programming at Open Jam 2022 | Opensource.com
16:43 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel: Rblpapi 0.3.14: Updates and Extensions http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/10/06#rblpapi_0.3.14
16:43 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
16:44 TR News; OpenStack 'SLURP' ends requirement for six-monthly upgrades - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/openstack_zed_slurp/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/openstack_zed_slurp/
16:44 TR Bot; OpenStack 'SLURP' ends requirement for six-monthly upgrades The Register
16:46 TR News; Red Hat has just said "GNU/Linux" https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/24/move-apt-dnf-package-management but Red Hat also defamed its founder
16:46 TR Bot; Moving from apt to dnf package management | Red Hat Developer
16:46 TR News; What's inside an RPM .repo file? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/07/whats-inside-rpm-repo-file
16:46 TR Bot; What's inside an RPM .repo file? | Red Hat Developer
16:47 TR News; CPE Weekly Update Week 40 2022 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-40-2022/ Source: fedoraproject | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-40-2022/
16:47 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update Week 40 2022 Fedora Community Blog
16:49 TR News; Re: Gemini is not decentralized gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-10-07-Re:-Gemini-is-not-decentralized.txt
16:52 TR News; Chaos with JS. Web pages and JS are NOT the same, they're almost opposites. https://medevel.com/grapesjs-2/
16:52 TR Bot; GrapesJS is A Developer-friendly Open Source Rrich Web Page Builder
16:53 TR News; Back doors on board https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/07/up-element-i12-edge-computer-intel-nuc-12-compute-element/
↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/07/up-element-i12-edge-computer-intel-nuc-12-compute-element/
16:53 TR Bot; UP Element i12 Edge embedded computer is equipped with Intel's NUC 12 Compute Element - CNX Software
16:54 TR News; ICBM is, indeed, at a time of uncertainty... about its own future https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/empower-teams-uncertainty it is also destroying Red Hat
16:54 TR Bot; 3 ways CIOs can empower their teams during uncertainty | The Enterprisers Project
16:54 starstreak; <techrights-news> Asking Jim Zemlin what text editor he uses is like asking a Neanderthal what computer he or she uses. Zemlin has the technical skills of a 12 year old. http://techrights.org/2022/08/13/proprietary-keynote/ <- they use a hive mind computer, underground
16:56 TR News; GPL but connected to proprietary malware with holes and surveillance https://medevel.com/kiwi-sync/
16:56 TR Bot; Kiwi Sync: Backup and Sync your Chrome Profile and Bookmarks
16:57 TR News; The licence of this does not matter much if it only works with spyware that harms the user. Making 'Free' extensions for proprietary software is a waste of time. https://medevel.com/marsort-extension/
16:57 TR Bot; Order and Organize your Chrome Bookmark Easily with Marksort
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 202.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.98
17:00 TR News; "The Greek journalist Thanasis Koukakis was spied on by his own government, with a commercial spyware product called Predator. That product is sold by a company in North Macedonia called Cytrox, which is in turn owned by an Israeli company called Intellexa." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/spyware-maker-intellexa-sued-by-journalist.html
17:00 TR Bot; Maker Intellexa Sued by Journalist - Schneier on Security
17:01 TR News; Thanasis Koukakis Sues Intellexa Over Predator Spyware https://gizmodo.com/thanasis-koukakis-sues-intellexa-over-predator-spyware-1849625793 Source: Gizmodo | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gizmodo.com/thanasis-koukakis-sues-intellexa-over-predator-spyware-1849625793
17:01 TR Bot; Thanasis Koukakis Sues Intellexa Over Predator Spyware
17:01 TR News; "Investigative journalist Thanasis Koukakis was under surveillance by Greece. Now hes decided to take Intellexa, the firm behind the Predator spyware allegedly used against him, and its owners to court" https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2022-10-07/ty-article/.premium/criminal-allegations-against-israeli-linked-spyware-ex-intel-commander-in-hacking-scandal/00000183-ad14-d3f8-a9ef-bf5752e60000
17:01 TR Bot; NO TITLE
17:08 TR News; "Smart homes, automotive and RISC-V took the headlines, with several announcements and press releases in each industry. Without further ado, lets dive straight into the most prominent news across the IoT landscape from the last month." https://ubuntu.com//blog/state-of-iot-september-2022
17:08 TR Bot; State of IoT September 2022 | Ubuntu
17:09 TR News; "I figured out how to get openGL working in containers; achieved by mount-binding /dev/dri on /dev/dri inside the container. This is now a checkbox "3D graphics"..." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/opengl-fixed-in-containers.html
17:09 TR Bot; OpenGL fixed in containers
17:10 TR News; FOSS Weekly #22.37: Free Ubuntu Pro, Kernel 6.0, TUXEDO OS, Crossword, Btrfs and More https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-37/
17:10 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #22.37: Free Ubuntu Pro, Kernel 6.0, TUXEDO OS, Crossword, Btrfs and More
17:11 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation keeps attacking the "LINUX" brand while failing at trademark enforcement (when it is needed) as well https://www.papermag.com/linux-paris-fashion-week-2658406478.html
17:11 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.papermag.com/linux-paris-fashion-week-2658406478.html )
17:12 TR News; The deep, the shallow and the ugly (classes) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/10/previously-i-showed-a-bit.html Source: Perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/10/previously-i-showed-a-bit.html
17:12 TR Bot; deep, the shallow and the ugly (classes) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org]
17:12 TR News; Pepper&Carrot (heavy) derivation: the case of the succesful Bulgarian book publishing by Prikazka-Igra https://www.davidrevoy.com/article929/peppercarrot-heavy-derivation-the-case-of-the-succesful-bulgarian-book-publishing-by-prikazka-igra
17:12 TR Bot; Pepper&Carrot (heavy) derivation: the case of the succesful Bulgarian book publishing by Prikazka-Igra - David Revoy
17:13 TR News; Olimex ESP32-C3-DevKit-Lipo is a tiny RISC-V board with WiFi 4, Bluetooth 5.0, and a LiPo battery charger - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/07/olimex-esp32-c3-devkit-lipo-tiny-risc-v-board-wifi-4-bluetooth-5-0-lipo-battery-charger/ Source: CNX Software
17:13 TR Bot; Olimex ESP32-C3-DevKit-Lipo is a tiny RISC-V board with WiFi 4, Bluetooth 5.0, and a LiPo battery charger - CNX Software
17:13 TR News; "Something I could spot on the same page: "O, ..." (translated by "Oh God...") that are clearly not a choice of wording I would use as a die-hard atheist." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article929/peppercarrot-heavy-derivation-the-case-of-the-succesful-bulgarian-book-publishing-by-prikazka-igra
17:18 TR News; (NEW): HEVC uAPI mainlined http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/HEVC_uAPI_mainlined.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/HEVC_uAPI_mainlined.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines HEVC uAPI mainlined
17:18 TR News; (NEW): Overhaul Enncryption Support in Kontact http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Overhaul_Enncryption_Support_in_Kontact.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Overhaul_Enncryption_Support_in_Kontact.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Overhaul Enncryption Support in Kontact
17:19 TR News; "I had the privilege of presenting Unraveling Fence & RCU Mysteries (C++ Concurrency Fundamentals) to the CPP Summit. As the title suggests, this covered RCU from a C++ viewpoint." https://paulmck.livejournal.com/68686.html
17:19 TR Bot; Stupid RCU Tricks: CPP Summit Presentation: paulmck LiveJournal
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 TR News; TikTok Tracks You Across the Web, Even If You Dont Use App - Consumer Reports https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics-computers/privacy/tiktok-tracks-you-across-the-web-even-if-you-dont-use-app-a4383537813/
17:21 TR Bot; TikTok Tracks You Across the Web, Even If You Dont Use App - Consumer Reports
17:22 TR News; Kees Cook signs death knell https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8aebac82933ff1a7c8eede18cab11e1115e2062b imho, they will come to regret it; rust is NOT stable as a project http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/
17:22 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
17:22 TR Bot; The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights
17:24 schestowitz[TR]; "We believe the culprit could easily be the copy/paste from Word or other sources as there are tags and symbols that could be ported over which can cause issues. We would recommend, when using with wysiwyg tools or html editors, that you have to be very careful to paste unformatted text. Word uses a whole bunch of characters that are hidden by MS Words UI but are present if you copy the text."
17:24 schestowitz[TR]; -from work
17:25 schestowitz[TR]; some idiots pasting crap into Drupal
17:25 schestowitz[TR]; breaking stuff
17:26 TR News; An end to doomerism - Big Think https://bigthink.com/progress/pessimism-is-a-barrier-to-progress/
17:26 TR Bot; An end to doomerism - Big Think
17:26 TR News; First make the change easy, then make the easy change https://www.adamtal.me/2019/05/first-make-the-change-easy-then-make-the-easy-change
17:26 TR Bot; First make the change easy, then make the easy change
17:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://lethain.com/staff-engineer-archetypes/
17:28 TR Bot; Staff engineer archetypes. | Irrational Exuberance
17:32 TR News; Red Hat CEO on OpenShift roadmap, competitive play https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252525671/Red-Hat-CEO-on-OpenShift-roadmap-competitive-play Source: Computer Weekly | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.computerweekly.com/news/252525671/Red-Hat-CEO-on-OpenShift-roadmap-competitive-play
17:32 TR Bot; Red Hat CEO on OpenShift roadmap, competitive play
17:32 TR News; ICBM Red Hat parrots anti-FOSS propaganda and FUD terms like "supply chain" https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/security/what-is-software-supply-chain-security
17:32 TR Bot; What is software supply chain security?
17:33 TR News; ICBM is extinguishing Red Had. Cui bono? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-storage-strategy-update
17:33 TR Bot; Red Hat Storage strategy update
17:36 TR News; "It is easy to get addicted to things; quitting is a bitch. And it feels awful to do something you know you shouldn't, be it using some substance, social media, eating meat, destructive behavior, or whatever." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-10-07.quitting.gmi
17:37 TR News; (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
17:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
18:15 TR News; (NEW): TIDAL Hi-Fi Electron-based software for TIDAL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/TIDAL_Hi_Fi_Electron_based_software_for_TIDAL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/TIDAL_Hi_Fi_Electron_based_software_for_TIDAL.gmi
18:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines TIDAL Hi-Fi Electron-based software for TIDAL
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18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:22 highest_cubist_thrills; xchm follows a familiar pattern
18:23 highest_cubist_thrills; its based on wxwidgets, wxwidgets are github based, so xchm gets sucked towards the libraries it uses
18:23 highest_cubist_thrills; im not saying that was the main factor, just a possible factor. hard to prove unless they state it in the mailing list
18:23 highest_cubist_thrills; also with so many things moving TO github, its hard to say if this isnt a coincidence. but it is a pattern
18:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and the sourceforge version, online earlier this year, was simply deleted
18:25 highest_cubist_thrills; people dont move from github TO sourceforge. and i dont blame them. sourceforge is better than github but not by a lot
18:25 highest_cubist_thrills; its bloated, old, and already stung people with the malware debacle under previous ownership
18:26 highest_cubist_thrills; if people were leaving github, more people would leave. but since almost no ones leaving, people move TO it instead
18:26 highest_cubist_thrills; that is, more people. its probably not as bad as it used to be-- whether because some interest has partially waned, or because everyone is there already :/
18:29 schestowitz[TR]; just did a video on FSF
18:29 schestowitz[TR]; and how it is too quiet this year
18:31 TR News; (NEW): 10 Essential Privacy and Security Apps for Linux Desktops http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_Essential_Privacy_and_Security_Apps_for_Linux_Desktops.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_Essential_Privacy_and_Security_Apps_for_Linux_Desktops.gmi
18:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Essential Privacy and Security Apps for Linux Desktops
18:31 TR News; (NEW): Stable Kernel: Linux 5.4.217 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Stable_Kernel_Linux_5_4_217.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Stable_Kernel_Linux_5_4_217.gmi
18:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Stable Kernel: Linux 5.4.217
18:31 TR News; (NEW): QOwnNotes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QOwnNotes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QOwnNotes.gmi
18:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines QOwnNotes
18:40 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
18:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 226.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.75
19:01 TR News; Even Windows ME Was More Successful Than Microsofts Vista 11 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/
19:01 TR Bot; Even Windows ME Was More Successful Than Microsofts Vista 11 | Techrights
19:04 TR News; Vista 11 has been out since the summer of 2021 and its market share is now estimated to be at 2.61%, probably due to a total lack of incentive to upgrade or purchase a new PC (with Vista 11 preinstalled against ones will) http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:39 TR News; Binocular observation of Jupiter and the moon gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/solderpunk/gemlog/binocular-observation-of-jupiter-and-the-moon.gmi
19:40 TR News; How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Video" href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OVX4l3nPy2k">Read on</a>
19:40 TR Bot; How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious
19:40 TR News; How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OVX4l3nPy2k | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/OVX4l3nPy2k
19:46 TR News; Free Software Foundation Ought to Become More Active and Visible | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/
19:46 TR Bot; Free Software Foundation Ought to Become More Active and Visible | Techrights
19:48 TR News; "I do think we need to think very hard before setting up camp in somebody else's computer." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-10-07-Re:-Gemini-is-not-decentralized.txt
19:48 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
19:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
19:51 TR News; [PATCH 0/6] Enable LKGS instruction - Xin Li https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221006154041.13001-1-xin3.li@intel.com/ Source: Thread/Kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221006154041.13001-1-xin3.li@intel.com/
19:51 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/6] Enable LKGS instruction - Xin Li
19:52 TR News; Biden signs Executive Order for EU-US data transfer deal: privacy and surveillance reforms missing - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/executive-order-eu-us-data-transfer-deal/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/executive-order-eu-us-data-transfer-deal/
19:52 TR Bot; Biden signs Executive Order for EU-US data transfer deal: privacy and surveillance reforms missing - Access Now
19:53 TR News; Fwupd 1.8.6 is out, but it's controlled by Microsoft's proprietary prison. Do you want your hardware controlled by that?!?!
19:58 TR News; (NEW): EasyOS 4.4.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EasyOS_4_4_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EasyOS_4_4_1.gmi
19:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines EasyOS 4.4.1
19:58 TR News; The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has had a very quiet year; theres not much output and the founder of the Free Software Foundation, Richard Stallman, is barely visible (very few talks so far this year) http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/
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20:19 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22081211
20:19 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/39hlmg449zg91.jpg created on 2022-08-12 03:32:59.109719
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:23 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22081210
20:23 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgflip.com/6pjqut.jpg created on 2022-08-12 03:21:32.986923
20:24 TR News; A patch has been out for ages https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-exploiting-unpatched-rce-bug-in-zimbra-collaboration-suite/
20:24 TR Bot; Hackers exploiting unpatched RCE bug in Zimbra Collaboration Suite
20:25 TR News; (NEW): 10 best Linux laptops to look for in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_best_Linux_laptops_to_look_for_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_best_Linux_laptops_to_look_for_in_2022.gmi
20:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 best Linux laptops to look for in 2022
20:26 TR News; Fridays Fedora Facts: 2022-40 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-40/ Source: Fedora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-40/
20:26 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-40 Fedora Community Blog
20:27 TR News; ICBM lock-infest https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/ansiblefest-2022-know-you-go
20:27 TR Bot; AnsibleFest 2022: Know before you go
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20:28 TR News; Microsoft is not confidential. It is an NSA facilitator. Many of these companies only pretend to value security. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-confidential-containers-project
20:28 TR Bot; What is the Confidential Containers project?
20:28 TR News; We the People Are All in This Together - YES! Magazine https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/10/07/climate-ecological-civilization Source: YES! Magazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/10/07/climate-ecological-civilization
20:28 TR Bot; We the People Are All in This Together - YES! Magazine
20:29 TR News; Confidential Containers (CoCo) is protected by a CoC, so pointing out these companies commit crimes and also spy on you (while lying to you about it) would get you ousted
20:30 DaemonFC; +// SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0 OR MIT
20:30 TR News; CoC in practice (de facto): stop telling people about my white-collar crimes or I'll get you in big trouble
20:30 DaemonFC; They're also trying to get rid of the GPL from all of this kernel stuff apparently.
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: kernel?
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; kernel is strictly gplv2
20:31 DaemonFC; Yeah, at least with the Rust support.
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; ah
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; yes, f***Ers
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; it'll spread the anti-gpl licences "like a cancer"
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; starting from rust.github
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; Gulag hates gpl
20:31 MinceR; CoCoCoC
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; and started this rust thingm
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; via mozilla the fake incubator
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: FINAL VVOORNING!!
20:32 MinceR; CoCadoodledoo
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; cancel crowd
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; starting with the assumption women need a CoC
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; for safety
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; from men
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; who are not "missing out"
20:34 DaemonFC; All of the people in San Francisco who were laughing about "Dey took mah jerb! DERKA DERRRR!" are losing their jobs now.
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; "your project needs a CoC to protect women from transphobes like me"
20:34 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Ask your friends how it feels for me. B-)
20:35 DaemonFC; https://www.techinasia.com/cryptocom-lays-2000-employees-dials-marketing-efforts
20:35 TR Bot; Tech in Asia - Connecting Asia's startup ecosystem
20:35 DaemonFC; Crypto dot com just fired 1,200 people in Singapore.
20:36 DaemonFC; "about 30% to 40% of its total workforce"
20:36 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> "For the week ending October 1, total initial jobless claims were 219,000, more than analysts expected and up from 190,000 the previous week." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/us-jobless-claims-jump-fed-shoves-economy-precipice-global-recession | Source: Common Dreams
20:36 TR Bot; US Jobless Claims Jump as Fed Shoves Economy to 'Precipice of Global Recession'
20:37 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/peloton-lays-off-500-more-employees/
20:37 TR Bot; Lays off 500 more employees - LayoffsTracker
20:37 DaemonFC; This is on top of that huge layoff a few months ago.
20:37 DaemonFC; They do it in stages to draw less attention, like Microsoft.
20:38 TR News; Free software incident response solutions https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-source-incident-response-solutions Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-source-incident-response-solutions
20:38 TR Bot; Open source incident response solutions
20:39 DaemonFC; Tempo (Fitness San Francisco) lays off 50.
20:39 DaemonFC; Internal memo on LinkedIn.
20:39 TR News; Fish shell now has underscore as a number separator (my feature request) https://edwardbetts.com/blog/fish-shell-underscore-number-separator/ Source: Edward Betts | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//edwardbetts.com/blog/fish-shell-underscore-number-separator/
20:39 TR Bot; Fish shell now has underscore as a number separator (my feature request)
20:39 TR News; AMD does not count on Microsoft and Windows? https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/07/datacenter-will-be-amds-largest-and-most-profitable-business/
20:39 TR Bot; Datacenter Will Be AMDs Largest And Most Profitable Business
20:40 DaemonFC; Sprurce Title (New York, Real Estate) laid off 150 Source: LinkedIn
20:40 DaemonFC; *Spruce
20:40 DaemonFC; Fivetran (San Francisco, Data) 50, LinkedIn
20:40 schestowitz[TR]; LinkedIn fires LinkedIn staff
20:40 schestowitz[TR]; agtain
20:40 schestowitz[TR]; and again
20:40 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft is a catastrophe
20:41 DaemonFC; Active Campaign, Chicago, Marketing, Unknown number. LinkedIn
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; 20,000 alyoffs almost
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; media... silent
20:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Layoffs at Spotify.
20:41 DaemonFC; Out, out damned Spotify!
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; those companies you mention... those people likely have kids and a mortgage
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; so next comes the prozac
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; of course
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; spotify doesn't make money
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; or barely
20:42 DaemonFC; https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/06/spotify-cancels-11-original-podcasts-lays-off-under-5-of-staff/
20:42 TR Bot; cancels 11 original podcasts, lays off under 5% of podcast staff TechCrunch
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; good
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; DRM and spying
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; good riddance
20:42 DaemonFC; https://www.gamesindustry.biz/multiple-editorial-staff-laid-off-at-vice
20:42 TR Bot; editorial staff laid off at Vice | GamesIndustry.biz
20:42 DaemonFC; 20-30 layoffs at VICE.
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; so it'll be more dead than it already is
20:42 DaemonFC; A gaming magazine that is very friendly to Microsoft.
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; led the attack on RMS
20:43 schestowitz[TR]; along with Rupert Murdoch media
20:43 DaemonFC; "Two writers and audience development manager let go in latest media redundancies"
20:43 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from bill gatea and epstein imho
20:43 schestowitz[TR]; I told rms before it happeend
20:43 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/impossible-lays-off-6-in-reorganization-under-ceo-mcguinness-2022-10
20:43 TR Bot; Impossible Lays Off 6% in Reorganization Under CEO McGuinness
20:43 schestowitz[TR]; that's... impossible
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20:43 DaemonFC; Impossible (fake) meats lays off 52 in San Francisco.
20:43 DaemonFC; Less Creepy Uncle Bill Lab Garbage.
20:43 schestowitz[TR]; ha
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; yuppie "premium" shit won;'t sell well now
20:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Beyond and Impossible are both in deep shit.
20:44 DaemonFC; Taco Bell got Beyond by the balls on that fake steak deal for their burritos, I'm hearing.
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; beyond words
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's impossible to sell
20:45 DaemonFC; Beyond was building more manufacturing expecting a huge McDonald's deal for a McPlant.
20:45 DaemonFC; Then the McPlant failed big time in the test markets.
20:45 DaemonFC; McDonald's test market for the McPlant was all these big Democrat cities.
20:45 DaemonFC; They had them in Chicago but I didn't order any.
20:46 DaemonFC; I tried Beyond Beef once during the pandemic. By itself it tastes pretty off. You have to disguise that with a lot of spices in your recipe.
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; sold by Creepy
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; who himself eats cow
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; and loved beef
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; but... patents
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; writes books on climate change
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; pullutes the planet the most
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; with 4 ircrafst
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; that he barely erven uses
20:47 DaemonFC; StitchFix, San Francisco, e-commerce, layoffs: 56
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; becaause jeff has better crafts... with kids in them
20:47 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/
20:47 TR Bot; Track all Tech & Startup layoffs globally
20:47 DaemonFC; Real Estate, marketing, apps, crypto.....doing very badly.
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; "apps"
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; "look, we have users"
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; (no money)
20:48 DaemonFC; And the layoffs are centered on a few big Democrat cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and New York.
20:48 DaemonFC; But SF is ground zero for the layoffs.
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; no, wait
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; you miss the pointm
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; you named big tech cities
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; not democratm cities
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; and yes, tech people tend to vote this way
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; but the commonality here is the setor
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; not the political orientation
20:49 TR News; Top 14 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - October 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/top-14-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-october-2022-edition/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/top-14-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-october-2022-edition/
20:49 TR Bot; Top 14 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - October 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam
20:51 TR News; SUSE thinks it's a subsidiary of SAP. Wait, maybe it is... https://www.suse.com/c/join-suse-at-sapinsider-emea-nov-15-17-in-vienna/
20:51 TR Bot; SUSE at SAPinsider EMEA Nov 15-17 in Vienna | SUSE Communities
20:53 TR News; "I've bought a pocket calculator / scientific calculator to use instead of relying on a computer or smartphone, it's a refreshing experience." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/pocket-calculator.gmi
20:54 TR News; (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.gmi
20:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM
20:57 TR News; Since When Does the IMF Care About Inequality? - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/imf-uk-tax-cuts-inequality-neoliberalism/671651/?utm_source=feed Source: The Atlantic
20:57 TR Bot; Since When Does the IMF Care About Inequality? - The Atlantic
20:57 DaemonFC; Tech people seem to vote that way because they condescend.
20:57 TR News; Is This the End of Socialism for the Rich? was the original headline from Yanis Varoufakis
20:58 DaemonFC; They don't see the actual harm that their voting causes to the people they claim to care about.
20:58 TR News; "A year later, in a telephone conversation among senior IMF staff published by WikiLeaks, its European chief told a colleague that the IMF should confront the German chancellor..." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/imf-uk-tax-cuts-inequality-neoliberalism/671651/?utm_source=feed
20:58 DaemonFC; For every one right expanded, society as a whole suffers until the only people enjoying these new rights are the ones with lots of money.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 72.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 260.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 82.78
20:59 TR News; "In 2010, WikiLeaks began disclosing the contents of diplomatic cables, leading government officials to criticize credit card companies for allowing people to donate to the organization. Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal soon suspended WikiLeaks' accounts." https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/03/fire-statement-on-free-speech-and-online-payment-processors/
20:59 TR Bot; "FIRE Statement on Free Speech and Online Payment Processors"
20:59 DaemonFC; Trump actually lowered our taxes by about 95%. What am I supposed to say about that?
20:59 DaemonFC; Even the Democrats know they'll have a riot on their hands if they try to take that back.
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; how will you pay the national debt?
21:00 DaemonFC; The national debt has only been paid once, and it was like over 100 years before I was born.
21:00 DaemonFC; And what followed was a severe national recession.
21:01 DaemonFC; If you look at debt to GDP ratio, the UK is in a similar place to the US.
21:01 DaemonFC; Like, +/- a few percent. Negligible.
21:02 TR News; "Canonical has released the beta build of Ubuntu 22.10, the next release of their Ubuntu Linux distribution. Ahead of its October 20, 2022 release, we check out the Kinetic Kudu to see whats new." https://www.howtogeek.com/837565/whats-new-in-ubuntu-22.10-kinetic-kudu/
21:02 TR Bot; Whats New in Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; GDP is fake
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; it's based on false self-evaluations
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; now, we could argue how much each nation does it
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; inc. japan and china\
21:03 DaemonFC; Mandy still has no idea of how our system of government works. He asks about the death sentence and he doesn't realize that every state has its own laws and it's all about how they feel like dealing with the ultimate scum in their jurisdiction.
21:03 DaemonFC; I told him "Some states have it, those that do execute prisoners differently. Some European drug companies tried to get in the way, so they're bringing back firing squads and gas chambers.".
21:04 DaemonFC; And rightly so.
21:04 TR News; This sucks. mycomputertips used to cover GNU/Linux, now it's some HTML crap : https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/322 https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/321
21:04 TR Bot; Use the HTML <mark></mark> tag to highlight text on your webpages, HTML
21:04 TR Bot; Using the HTML <kbd></kbd> tag to show keyboard shortcuts in your webpages, HTML
21:04 DaemonFC; Leftists go "That's terrible!", but when you get to it and look at people like Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy (who was executed before Illinois stopped doing it), would you want any of those back?
21:04 DaemonFC; Or would you be glad they're gone?
21:05 DaemonFC; Gacy was executed in 1996 after raping and killing young gay men, mostly gay men, and teenagers, and burying them under his house in a Chicago suburb.
21:05 DaemonFC; They dug up dozens, and he told them there were more they'd never find.
21:05 DaemonFC; Why shouldn't the state have gotten rid of him?
21:07 DaemonFC; Nobody has an answer for that.
21:07 TR News; "Bash provides a large number of options that can be used to control the behavior of bash scripts. This post examines some of the more useful ones and explains how to display which options are in use and which are not." https://www.networkworld.com/article/3675561/using-bash-options-to-change-the-behavior-of-scripts.html
21:07 TR Bot; Using bash options to change the behavior of scripts | Network World
21:08 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Would you prefer the alternate universe where the Illinois Parole Board let John Wayne Gacy out because he'd served 20 years of his sentence and then we find out he's burying them in the Cook County Forest Preserves now?
21:08 DaemonFC; Or are you glad he's gone and will never be a threat again?
21:08 XRevan86; https://newsweek.com/1614532 Newsweek is an interesting place.
21:08 TR News; Forbes has had zero articles about Linux in nearly 2 months. This site is dying. https://www.forbes.com/search/?sort=recent&q=linux&sh=45b26491279f
21:08 TR Bot; The Case for the Unconstitutionality of Abortion | Opinion
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21:09 TR News; (NEW): Best email client for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Best_email_client_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Best_email_client_for_Linux.gmi
21:09 DaemonFC; Unfortunately, the state is just letting hundreds of these people pile up in prison and go before leftists who let them out.
21:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best email client for Linux
21:09 DaemonFC; So Gacy's gone but we have a big problem.
21:09 DaemonFC; During 2020 they let an ax murderer and a guy who raped and murdered a 16 year old in 1972 out of prison.
21:10 DaemonFC; They lost both. Never appeared to their parole officer's meeting.
21:10 DaemonFC; Still haven't found either of them.
21:10 TR News; "Larry Ellisons total compensation grew by about 12 times the amount seen the year prior." While the company is failing. https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4057266/oracles-executives-2022 http://techrights.org/wiki/Oracle
21:10 TR Bot; See how much Oracle's top executives made in 2022
21:10 TR Bot; Oracle - Techrights
21:10 DaemonFC; Things got so bad that the DEMOCRATS refused to install their own governor's latest appointment to the Parole Board to shut it down for lack of a quorum!
21:10 DaemonFC; Yet, we're supposed to give this fucker, Pritzker, another term?
21:11 DaemonFC; I changed my mind and ended up voting for Darren Bailey in the end, damn it to hell.
21:11 DaemonFC; I am so sick of Pritzker that I don't even care what comes next.
21:11 DaemonFC; I hope Bailey wins and gets into a food fight with the Democrats.
21:12 DaemonFC; If Bailey wins, it'll probably be recount close.
21:13 DaemonFC; Within 0.5% triggers an automatic recount at the state's expense unless one of the candidates waives it and accepts the first results.
21:14 DaemonFC; We have that because recounts of an entire state do tend to change the results by several hundred votes. It's just unavoidable. Ballot scanning problems, challenged ballots (where the intent of the voter, legally, is what matters, and judges end up deciding what it was).
21:15 DaemonFC; To box the judges in, you need to make your intent absolutely clear. Which means, like, no marking one candidate, drawing an X through it, and filling in another circle. Otherwise, they're going to go to war over what your ballot meant if there's a recount.
21:16 DaemonFC; Some people do weird things on their ballot. Legally, at least in this state, you can write-in a candidate's name even if they're already on the ballot as a named candidate. But then you just create more odds your ballot won't be scanned properly and will result in an undervote instead of a poll worker looking at it and recording it properly.
21:17 DaemonFC; They really need to get rid of these computers entirely.
21:17 DaemonFC; But they don't because it's faster and cheaper, and they're willing to live with inaccuracies that could actually change some outcomes.
21:18 TR News; NFS vs SMB vs CIFS: File storage protocols defined https://www.computerweekly.com/feature/NFS-vs-SMB-vs-CIFS-File-storage-protocols-defined
21:18 TR Bot; NFS vs SMB vs CIFS: File storage protocols defined
21:18 DaemonFC; Illinois is wonky. It counts ballots that arrive up to 14 days late, as long as they're postmarked by 5 PM on election day.
21:18 DaemonFC; Democrats tend to be lazy and wait until the last minute to do anything.
21:18 DaemonFC; So suddenly there's this avalanche of late ballots that are almost all for Democrats.
21:19 TR News; Compare container orchestrators Apache Mesos vs. Kubernetes <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="TechTarget" href="https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/tip/Compare-container-orchestrators-Apache-Mesos-vs-Kubernetes">Read on</a>
21:19 TR Bot; Compare container orchestrators Apache Mesos vs. Kubernetes
21:19 DaemonFC; Many states don't do this. In Indiana, it has to be at the polling place by 5 PM or the vote doesn't count.
21:19 TR News; Openwashing polluters while misuing the "Linux" brand (using it up... to the point where it means nothing) https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252525799/Oil-giant-Shell-lends-support-to-LF-Energy-in-its-open-source-power-networks-push
21:19 TR Bot; Oil giant Shell lends support to LF Energy in its open source power networks push
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 DaemonFC; They tell everyone mail it at least 7 days before election day and if it's not there on time that's your problem.
21:20 DaemonFC; If you don't do that, you need to hand deliver it.
21:20 TR News; LF is just an openwashing PR company. Openwashing as in lying. Calling proprietary "open".
21:20 DaemonFC; I got my ballot on the 30th of September and it was back in the mail on October 1st.
21:21 DaemonFC; I mean, how hard is it? Honestly?
21:21 DaemonFC; Illinois courts work like this too. If you're 3 hours late, they don't care. They'll just call your case when everyone finally makes it in.
21:21 DaemonFC; In Indiana, they slam the door shut and issue a warrant for your arrest.
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21:32 schestowitz[TR]; wb
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; sorry, was budy with links
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; *busy
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; we'll run a pluton article shortly
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21:37 TR News; Google delays adblock's death, New Nvidia driver, Debian goes non free - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xO2bJtXqtHg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/xO2bJtXqtHg
21:37 TR Bot; Google delays adblock's death, New Nvidia driver, Debian goes non free - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; attack surface is one heck of a drug, starstreak
21:39 TR News; LHS Episode #483: LHS4EVA | Linux in the Ham Shack https://lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-483-lhs4eva-2/ Source: Linux in the Ham Shack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-483-lhs4eva-2/
21:39 TR Bot; LHS Episode #483: LHS4EVA | Linux in the Ham Shack
21:40 TR News; Patched ages ago https://duo.com/decipher/researchers-warn-of-unpatched-actively-exploited-zimbra-flaw
21:40 TR Bot; Researchers Warn of Unpatched, Actively Exploited Zimbra Flaw | Decipher
21:41 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.0 Officially Released, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Linux_Kernel_6_0_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Linux_Kernel_6_0_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.gmi
21:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.0 Officially Released, This Is Whats New
21:43 TR News; Country that engages in election meddling all around the world claims to be protecting integrity of elections https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/07/fbi-and-cisa-publish-psa-information-manipulation-tactics-2022
21:43 TR Bot; FBI and CISA Publish a PSA on Information Manipulation Tactics for 2022 Midterm Elections | CISA
21:43 TR News; James Burton is giving legs their snakes back | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/james-burton-is-giving-legs-their-snakes-back/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/james-burton-is-giving-legs-their-snakes-back/
21:43 TR Bot; James Burton is giving legs their snakes back | Arduino Blog
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21:44 TR News; "The world would be a much better place if everyone could wake according to their own natural circadian rhythm and natural sunlight peeking through their window. But the world doesnt work like that and many people have to force themselves awake." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/this-gorgeous-headboard-simulates-sunrises/
21:44 TR Bot; This gorgeous headboard simulates sunrises | Arduino Blog
21:45 TR News; Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 224 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-224-released/
21:45 TR Bot; diffoscope 224 released
21:45 TR News; Librem 5- Device Overview - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-device-overview/ Source: Purism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/librem-5-device-overview/
21:45 TR Bot; Librem 5- Device Overview Purism
21:48 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> attack surface is one heck of a drug, starstreak <- XD
21:48 TR News; Akademy Awards 2022 .... with a K https://euroquis.nl//kde/2022/10/07/awards.html
21:48 TR Bot; Akademy Awards 2022 | [bobulate]
21:48 TR News; (NEW): This Week in GNOME #64 Everything Green Again! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/This_Week_in_GNOME_64_Everything_Green_Again.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/This_Week_in_GNOME_64_Everything_Green_Again.gmi
21:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines This Week in GNOME #64 Everything Green Again!
21:49 starstreak; linucks
21:49 MinceR; btw
21:49 TR News; Plop Boot Manager boots PCs off media they can't start from - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/07/plop_boot_manager_boot_a/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/07/plop_boot_manager_boot_a/
21:49 TR Bot; Plop Boot Manager boots PCs off media they can't start from The Register
21:51 TR News; The 'Great Decline' of High Capacity Disk Drive Sales - Random [Tech] Stuff https://koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/ Source: Petros Koutoupis | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/
21:51 TR Bot; The Great Decline of High Capacity Disk Drive Sales Random [Tech] Stuff
21:52 TR News; "Under the two currently available categories Kubernetes and Linux, we have already published 50+ documentsexpect more to be posted during the next few weeks." https://www.suse.com/c/meet-the-latest-suse-documentation-accrual/
21:52 TR Bot; the latest SUSE documentation "accrual" | SUSE Communities
21:54 TR News; Michael Larabel: "systemd 252-rc1 Introduces New systemd-measure Tool, Other New Features" ... "PCR measurements to make it easier facilitating TPM2 policies. " Microsoft systemd now pushing TPM2 into Linux.. oh, dear!
21:55 TR News; Clown edge https://containerjournal.com/features/spectro-cloud-strengthens-kubernetes-security-at-the-network-edge/
21:55 TR Bot; Spectro Cloud Strengthens Kubernetes Security at the Network Edge - Container Journal
21:57 TR News; Man arrives at scene. Dolls torn apart. The circus is over. They said the "data is in the clown". Chaos ensued.
21:58 TR News; Outsourcing to the clown = committing a security breach.
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22:11 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Librem, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding.gmi
22:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Librem, Arduino, and More
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22:14 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
22:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
22:15 DaemonFC; I got around to de-icing about half the chest freezer.
22:15 DaemonFC; I'm going to do the other half after I finish drawing it down some more.
22:15 TR News; Seems like Nat Friedman (Microsoft, GitHub) is employing a PR firm to do reputation laundering for him in Wikipedia. Sorry to say this, but Wikipedia has become an utter joke. It's run by PR firms and corporations/governments that employ them.
22:16 TR News; Everything is down, eh? https://koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/ the peak is behind us.
22:17 TR News; ZDNet this week: we use a stock of Chinese ladies for photographs, but we employ nobody Chinese and we barely have female writers. ZDNet is a joke.
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:23 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Mini-Jungle-Cat-924505244
22:24 TR Bot; Jungle Cat by FurLined on DeviantArt
22:24 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
22:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
22:24 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu: 'Pro' Offering, What's Coming in 22.10, and Embedded Space http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Ubuntu_Pro_Offering_What_s_Coming_in_22_10_and_Embedded_Space.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Ubuntu_Pro_Offering_What_s_Coming_in_22_10_and_Embedded_Space.gmi
22:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu: 'Pro' Offering, What's Coming in 22.10, and Embedded Space
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22:27 TR News; PIA webspam https://techreport.com/best-linux-vpns/
22:27 TR Bot; The Best Linux VPN in 2022 | Top Paid and Free Linux VPNs
22:35 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22081139
22:35 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/eet9e8h89ig91.jpg created on 2022-08-11 13:53:07.591191
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22:46 TR News; Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/
22:46 TR Bot; Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights
22:47 TR News; (NEW): Audio and Video: Linux in the Ham Shack, Hardware Addicts, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Audio_and_Video_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Hardware_Addicts_and_Mor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Audio_and_Video_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Hardware_Addicts_and_Mor.gmi
22:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Audio and Video: Linux in the Ham Shack, Hardware Addicts, and More
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22:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/fake-meat-stocks-in-the-toilet-and-layoffs-at-impossible-and-beyond/
22:56 TR Bot; Fake meat stocks in the toilet and layoffs at Impossible and Beyond. | BaronHK's Rants
22:58 schestowitz[TR]; haha
22:58 schestowitz[TR]; it is beyond impossible!
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 96.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 231.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 83.15
22:59 MinceR; i would have thought that the only thing that's beyond impossible is the possible
22:59 DaemonFC; fixing typos
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23:02 TR News; Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/
23:02 TR Bot; Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights
23:03 DaemonFC; "Now they're launching a "Beyond Steak" at Taco Bell. Most people who go to Taco Bell are "high af", as the cool kids call it these days, and usually at 3 AM, and they're not going to order a Beyond Steak taco."
23:04 DaemonFC; "From the get go, vegans and vegetarians complained that they weren't going to order any of it from a fast food restaurant that grilled it on the same grill they just has actual meat on, and meat eaters aren't going to order fake burger unless it was a one off thing to amuse themselves out of curiosity. "
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; the universe itself is clearly impossible
23:04 DaemonFC; "I ordered an Impossible Whopper (with cheese) once to see how they tasted. I thought it was fairly close, but a real Whopper with cheese tastes better and doesn't come at a cost premium."
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; im a pessimist, i deal in likelihoods mostly
23:04 DaemonFC; "Political conservatives certainly aren't going to be the customer for this stuff. They see "switching" as degrading their masculinity and propping up "liberals in San Francisco" and "Bill Gates". "
23:04 DaemonFC; "The only thing most people seem to agree on is that once you know more about Bill Gates than his "reading list" puff pieces, the more you dislike him."
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; but technically once the impossible is done, anything is probably possible
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, how the fuck does a rock exist
23:05 highest_cubist_thrills; or a grain of sand-- its fucking ridiculous
23:05 schestowitz[TR]; did he graduate from college yet?
23:05 schestowitz[TR]; "tell me what he reads... so I can become rich like him!!"
23:05 DaemonFC; "The US economy is in serious trouble, and the media (to protect Democrats mainly) won't admit it, especially with the election coming up. They already know the results will be a Democrat wipeout, but they're hoping to contain the damage by blaming people being laid off for their own layoffs, faking unemployment numbers, saying that we don't even know if we're in a recession or bickering...
23:05 DaemonFC; ...about what the textbook definition of hyperinflation is when most Americans agree things are really really bad at the stores. "
23:05 highest_cubist_thrills; a grain of sand mocks all probability
23:05 DaemonFC; "Like the bag of potato chips that used to be 15 ounces, but is now 7.5 ounces at the same price. Most things have gotten that way. Rent, your whole grocery bill, the cost to keep the lights on and the car gassed up. "
23:05 DaemonFC; "That's another problem for fake meat. It's an expensive novelty, and you'll have a hard time selling it in this economy."
23:05 DaemonFC; "The lying media is irritating people and there will be political consequences very shortly because nobody believes the bullshit and the Billshit that the media is peddling about these things anymore."
23:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Remember those 90s bags of chips where you got like two pounds of chips in the bag and it was $1.89?
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; they are cheap to make
23:06 DaemonFC; Now you get less than 1/4 of the chips and it's $3.47.
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; potato starcch
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; salt
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; some more chemicals
23:07 schestowitz[TR]; they should be like 10 cents a bag
23:07 schestowitz[TR]; the bag should be more expensive than its contents
23:07 highest_cubist_thrills; they should cost 5 cents
23:07 MinceR; they should cost 2.5 cents!
23:07 DaemonFC; Mom said grandpa bought them a bag of chips while they were on vacation back in the 60s. They opened it up and there was a chunk of wood in the bag with the chips.
23:07 highest_cubist_thrills; they should be like 10 cents a bag <- id gladly pay 20p for tayto crisps though
23:07 DaemonFC; :)
23:08 highest_cubist_thrills; cheese and onion ftw
23:16 schestowitz[TR]; "ftw" lol
23:16 schestowitz[TR]; cheese and btw onion too
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23:17 highest_cubist_thrills; cheese and onion bftw
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; aka chemicals that, when put together, taste sort of like onion
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; and kind of like cheese
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; you popcorn rianne bought "cheese powder"
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; obviously
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; it's like that stuff they put on cheetos
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; real onions are made of chemicals too
23:20 schestowitz[TR]; you can almost suffocate on it
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 schestowitz[TR]; if it blowns up in the air
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; many organic powders are explosive
23:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, they over flavor a lot of the chips.
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; flour is ground wheat. its explosive as fuck
23:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's addictive this way
23:20 DaemonFC; I usually get the lightly salted ones because the regular are so salty it's like eating a bowl of salt.
23:20 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how they do it
23:20 DaemonFC; It's horrible.
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; you have to be really careful with stuff like that in factories etc
23:21 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: we went to a chinee store on the anniversary
23:21 schestowitz[TR]; and they had this msg thing
23:21 highest_cubist_thrills; hahahaha
23:21 schestowitz[TR]; I saw the crystals for these first time
23:21 schestowitz[TR]; umami... then checked in wikipedia
23:21 schestowitz[TR]; looks weeeeeelllllllll dodgy
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23:21 highest_cubist_thrills; msg occurs naturally in tomatoes and parmesan cheese
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23:22 schestowitz[TR]; that's what I read
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; but now they fed chemicals to us
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; made in a factory
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; chemicals is everrything
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but if you put it in food as an additive some people are sensitive to it
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; its not a phobia
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; but this one... doesn't look right
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to get chinese medicine for my feet-- it was glorious
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; looks like a narcotic in a bag
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but i woudlnt drink it
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; ive had chinese home cooking
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; it was fine
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; no msg
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; isn't this japanese?
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; looks like a narcotic in a bag <- im sure salt looks dodgy too if you grind it up enough
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; isn't this japanese? <- seaweed is
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; massive bags
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; retail store
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but msg is big in chinese restaurants
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; rianne said it's that thing mentioned in irc
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; looked like drugs to me
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; even the bag
23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know what would happen if you snort msg
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of products look dodgy there
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; with bad english on them.. if any
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; engrish
23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; if anything happened, at all, the folks in the er would just think youre a fucking idiot
23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; engrish <- the chinese think engrish is hilarious
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23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it happens in china too, but its more common in japan beacuse
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; i saw many such things
23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; the japanese have a HUGE hardon for english
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; but no camera
23:25 schestowitz[TR]; I don't carry gadgets with me
23:25 schestowitz[TR]; half a day ago in a pharmacy I saw something very funny
23:25 schestowitz[TR]; but no camera
23:26 highest_cubist_thrills; the japanese have a HUGE hardon for english <- and it doesnt matter if they mangle it so hirality ensues
23:26 highest_cubist_thrills; some are very aware of it and make fun of themselves
23:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i had a japanese hairstylist who deribelaty made fun of himself
23:27 highest_cubist_thrills; he worked at a hibachi place before he learned to cut hair
23:28 highest_cubist_thrills; he was good at cutting hair and probably good as a hibachi chef too
23:28 highest_cubist_thrills; his english wasnt hilarious but it was mildly amusing
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; because japanese and especially chinese (also thai ive noticed) are so tonal
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; dman, I'm trying to recall what the brand was
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; when they move to english their english sounds like a bit like singing
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, it was something sexual sounding
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; which i think is
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; or tech joke
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; iirc, it was something sexual sounding <- this is the least prudish youve ever been :)
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; or not, idk
23:30 schestowitz[TR]; i think "crem" was in the brand
23:30 highest_cubist_thrills; haha
23:30 schestowitz[TR]; but the other term was the funny one
23:30 TR News; (NEW): Lubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Lubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Lubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through.gmi
23:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Lubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through
23:30 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rrbFQEcpJ3A
23:30 TR Bot; Prince & The New Power Generation - Cream (Official Music Video) - Invidious
23:34 TR News; (NEW): KaOS 2022.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/KaOS_2022_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/KaOS_2022_10.gmi
23:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines KaOS 2022.10
23:34 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bU19u4OGje4
23:34 TR Bot; Lets talk about the Tiger Penis in the room - Invidious
23:34 highest_cubist_thrills; i was looking for a clip from "made in china"
23:35 highest_cubist_thrills; (and chinese viagra. because obviously if im not an msg fan ill try anything made from tiger parts)
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23:37 TR News; "Creepy Uncle Bill Gates is heavily invested in both companies and was perplexed at the market rejection of both products. He took to his bribed/friendly media a while back to say that states were passing laws that prevented them from calling these products beef" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/fake-meat-stocks-in-the-toilet-and-layoffs-at-impossible-and-beyond/
23:37 TR Bot; Fake meat stocks in the toilet and layoffs at Impossible and Beyond. | BaronHK's Rants
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: this screenshot is... something!
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; like the wife of Jim Zemlin
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; Sheela Microsoft
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; down like 97%, but not in a single day
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/
23:38 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlins Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/
23:38 TR Bot; After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: remember what i told you about many companies valued at more than 10 times their real worth
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; valuation bubbles and lies
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; the sad thing is
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23:38 schestowitz[TR]; many people "invested" stuff like pensions in that
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23:39 schestowitz[TR]; so there is collaterial damage
23:39 DaemonFC; Yep.
23:39 DaemonFC; Their Pension was BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE.
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; they built these bubbles on other people's money
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; savings etc.
23:39 DaemonFC; Now Creepy Uncle has it.
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; COVID?
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; again? :-)
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; he might soon become demented like his dad
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; who died 2 years ago
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; with dementia
23:40 DaemonFC; I woke up feeling pretty good today.
23:40 *techuser (~techuser@dndb9c48s7mjg.irc) has joined #techrights
23:40 DaemonFC; I left some water and a bottle of tylenol next to my bed just in case.
23:41 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/post-covid-alzheimers/
23:41 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the Brain
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23:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, I don't need that. Hence "updated booster".
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; booster+++
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; don't forget the booster of the booster
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; whose clinical trials were like... what? a month long experiment?
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; not even on humans
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; I read froma reliable source they only tested on non-human animals
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; and then deploy to the market
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; that's leaving vaccine experts very unhappy
23:43 DaemonFC; On mice.
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; that we came to this
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; no, I think bigger than mice, but still
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; then they give to human subjects
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; not in controlledc experimental with legla papers
23:43 DaemonFC; Well, they experiment on a big rat now. His name is mjg59_
23:43 starstreak; linucks btw
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; and no waivers but payments to participants
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; those were the real protocols
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; for clinical trials
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; and double trial testing
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; animals, humans, then more humans
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; not marketing
23:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Palefills is working again.
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; just the testing
23:44 DaemonFC; Didn't fix Google Drive, but it did fix some problems with Wordpress.
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; now, for monkeypox, which barely kills anyone, they also cut the red tape
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; so the vaccine patent pools just destroy the FDA
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; mnany resigned from FDA
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; overr this
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; so they staged a coup
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; and now have rubber-stampers
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; and they also pay social control media giants to remove users who call them out on it
23:45 DaemonFC; "My aunt was 67 and healthy. Still working. Got her 3rd shot in march and now is in a nursing home starring at the ceiling. She didn't get covod but she did get the shot"
23:45 DaemonFC; These people go everywhere and who knows who they really are.
23:45 TR News; "TechRepublic Staff" = spambots https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-courses-udemy/
23:45 TR Bot; of Udemy Linux Courses and Training | TechRepublic
23:46 DaemonFC; It's impossible to know what to do, schestowitz[TR] .
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23:46 DaemonFC; mjg59_ was not focused on the safety of the vaccines.
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's a bad situation
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; no easy solution here
23:46 DaemonFC; Nobody will admit anything at all happens after them.
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; you shut things down, people get depressed and broke
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; you open up, they get ill
23:46 DaemonFC; So it's giving people a license to say anything they want.
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; "xxxxxxx was just speaking with someone with contacts in the healthcare"
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; "ervice here. the news is absolutely quiet but the SARS-CoV-2 patients"
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23:47 schestowitz[TR]; "have been so numerous that, despite the hospital having been about doubled"
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; "in size not too long ago, they are been treated in overflow facilities too"
23:47 DaemonFC; Mom says they've been seeing a spike in "behaviors" of people with Alzheimer's at their nursing home each time they get a COVID vaccine shot.
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; "at nearby buildings"
23:48 DaemonFC; I don't know if that's true.
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; someone sent this to me today
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; this is only October
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; your mom is not reliable
23:48 *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; she also seees ghosts and stuff
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; and rejects all vaccines
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23:49 TR News; Robolinux 12.08 is out http://www.robolinux.org/
23:49 TR Bot; to Robolinux.org
23:49 TR News; 2 Hours Of Squid To Relax/Study/Work To | Lofi Hip Hop | Monterey Bay Aquarium Krill Waves Radio - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J2UyOTS3UCE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/J2UyOTS3UCE
23:49 TR Bot; 2 Hours Of Squid To Relax/Study/Work To | Lofi Hip Hop | Monterey Bay Aquarium Krill Waves Radio - Invidious
23:50 DaemonFC; Garrett also didn't want to talk about death rates with COVID.
23:50 TR News; Why the rush? Because of the big number, "6"? https://tipsonunix.com/2022/10/03/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-linux-mint/
23:50 TR Bot; How to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu / Linux Mint - Tips On Unix
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; re https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/fake-meat-stocks-in-the-toilet-and-layoffs-at-impossible-and-beyond/
23:50 TR Bot; Fake meat stocks in the toilet and layoffs at Impossible and Beyond. | BaronHK's Rants
23:50 DaemonFC; They were already quite low in the 18-49 segment, and almost unheard of lower than age 18.
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; rianne found some almost-expired fake 'meats'
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; like quarter price or less
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; at that price point it's worth taking
23:50 DaemonFC; The deaths basically went away after two shots in the 18-49 group.
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; and she's veg
23:50 DaemonFC; So why did they recommend "boosters"?
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; we both know why
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; recurring customers among the motivations
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; they don't give evena first shot in afric'a horn
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23:51 DaemonFC; There's no scientific justification now, at this point, for a third shot of the original vaccine formulation in anyone under 50, and maybe not even anyone at all i they're getting vaccinated just now.
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; "no money in it..."
23:51 DaemonFC; The third dose should be the bivalent shot.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; not sure about this "deaths went away"
23:52 DaemonFC; Less than 1.7% of the Pfizer shots went to countries without serious money.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; this is summer/autumn
23:52 DaemonFC; They don't give a shit.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; Bourla calls people criminals
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; buit if they are poor, not criminals
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; rich people who don't buy his products
23:53 DaemonFC; This is allowing China and Russia to come in and offer them their own vaccinations, in exchange for "favors".
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; he doesn't care if you are por
23:53 DaemonFC; This is a serious political fuck-up on behalf of the West.
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; also, he doesn't try too impress you
23:53 DaemonFC; Especially the United States.
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; by name-calling
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; his real customers are government
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; they buy it for you ehether you want it or not
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; it's prepaid
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; "war on crime"
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; "buy my patent licence"
23:54 DaemonFC; I don't know. Russia has a vaccine that's probably no worse than what they're giving out in the UK.
23:54 DaemonFC; You hear people calling it dodgy because of nationalism.
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; "so I can sell you 50 cent products for %50"
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; 10,000% profit margin
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; *$50
23:54 MinceR; ftw btw
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; even many russians refuse to take it
23:55 DaemonFC; Yeah, get this shit. Like, early on in the COVID pandemic, but when you COULD get Pfizer shots in the US, one of Mandy's friends at Walmart went back to the Philippines and got AZ for some reason. Came right back and got COVID 3 months after completing the AZ series. Why would you even do that?
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; that's how much they trust their regime
23:55 DaemonFC; You live in the US. Nobody is going to be doing AZ here, so you take a vaccine there's no follow up for.
23:55 TR News; Nat Friedman, who deleted some of his online presence, probably hopes you wont notice whats going on with his Wikipedia page this week http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/
23:55 TR Bot; Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights
23:56 TR News; "Well, after more than 40 years, this sad prophecy is about to come true, thanks to the Pluton chip, yet another attack on user freedom, perpetrated by one of the most abusive companies in existence." http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/
23:56 TR Bot; Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights
23:56 XRevan86; schestowitz: I took Sputnik-V, but just the two times.
23:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]rianne found some almost-expired fake 'meats'
23:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]like quarter price or less
23:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]at that price point it's worth taking
23:56 DaemonFC; Is it, though?
23:56 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
23:56 DaemonFC; I mean it's basically garbage. Highly processed.
23:56 schestowitz[TR]; protien value is OK
23:56 schestowitz[TR]; and it's cheap at that stage
23:56 XRevan86; Not sure if there's a point in vaccinating myself against the original COVID-19.
23:56 schestowitz[TR]; fereezable
23:56 DaemonFC; I saw some big rebates on Beyond Beef at Walmart.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; anyway,m, they don't profit off that...
23:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, didn't take the rebates though.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; it's just that nobody buys it
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23:57 XRevan86; And there aren't any other options out there.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: not garbage but veg
23:57 DaemonFC; Nobody is buying it so Walmart announced "rollbacks" and then rebates show up on iBotta at the same time.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; with added nutrients
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; like mushrooms with spices and rotein
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; people don't buy brands much
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; like Cola
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; so the chops remove the budget item
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; and mark up all items
23:58 XRevan86; I was going to wait and vaccinate myself with an updated vaccine but it never came to be.
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; to make up for loss of sales... of high progfit margin items
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; aldi and lidi are seeing a huge surge in sales
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; people go there to avoid brand surplus
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: better not vaccine yourserlf
23:59 XRevan86; Now I have an opportunity to vaccinate with an expired* vaccine.
23:59 XRevan86; * The expiration date has been extended.
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; you would look like a narc
23:59 DaemonFC; I just tossed all the stuff out of my freezer and went at it with the scraper.
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; "I'm not a junkie, I self-medicate"
23:59 DaemonFC; I used a thin piece of cardboard to scoop the ice out of the bottom when I was done and put it in a big bowl.
23:59 DaemonFC; I ended up dumping a lot of ice from the sides of the freezer into the sink.
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