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beginning of new day, October 6

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1 AM, October 6

01:02 schestowitz-TR; for a complete www backup of TM on my machine, gz is 680mb

01:02 schestowitz-TR; grew about 100mb since a month ago

01:03 schestowitz-TR; so think 1200mb increase per year (compressed)

01:28 starstreak; thats not bad

01:35 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/_______dev/status/1577814655304704003#m

↺ https://nitter.it/_______dev/status/1577814655304704003#m

01:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-- (@_______dev): "Microsoft/CIA love them so much, no wonder why https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/microsoft_accused_of_corrupt_business/ http://techrights.org/2014/05/28/microsoft-brazil/"|nitter.it

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/microsoft_accused_of_corrupt_business/

http://techrights.org/2014/05/28/microsoft-brazil/"|nitter.it


2 AM, October 6

02:09 DaemonFC; Fucking Walmart.

02:09 DaemonFC; Their Web site firewall stops me from doing my shopping if it thinks I'm not in the US.

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03:23 starstreak; ^ yay

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8 AM, October 6

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08:35 Techrights-sec; TR httpd does not like the new certificate and putting the old one back in

08:35 Techrights-sec; place does not restore functionality.

08:35 Techrights-sec; It is up and running again now but, not having touched the configurations,

08:35 Techrights-sec; it is still a mess behind the scenes.

08:35 Techrights-sec; The steps used to make the current certificate are in mk-self-signed.sh

08:35 Techrights-sec; However, I am not sure how much closer that gets to solving the problem

08:35 Techrights-sec; with the testing site:

08:35 Techrights-sec; https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=techrights.org

↺ https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=techrights.org

08:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ssllabs.com | SSL Server Test: techrights.org (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs)

08:37 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I overslept again, but anyway not many [topics] to cover

08:37 schestowitz-TR; so time is sufficient

08:45 Techrights-sec; np

08:46 schestowitz-TR; one thing I noticed is, about 5 years ago half the 'articles' in phoronix became just a mailing list message

08:46 schestowitz-TR; with light commentary added

08:46 schestowitz-TR; later he added photos like TM, also for categories

08:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe even inspired by it (it was his biggest source of traffic, accoriding to alexa)

08:46 schestowitz-TR; but here is the thing:

08:46 schestowitz-TR; that site too runs out ofn topics

08:46 schestowitz-TR; and compensates with clickbait

08:46 Techrights-sec; possible topic: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249

↺ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249

08:46 Techrights-sec; ack

08:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - SoylentNews

08:46 Techrights-sec; https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/you_cannot_buy_software/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/you_cannot_buy_software/

08:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie The Register

08:47 schestowitz-TR; clickbait=wasting people's time, possible annoying them

08:47 schestowitz-TR; *possibly

08:47 Techrights-sec; The Register mentions FOSS by name, specifically

08:48 schestowitz-TR; yes, liam proven is OK

08:48 schestowitz-TR; I think we both read his own blog too

08:48 schestowitz-TR; with FOSS you at least trul ownsomething in some sense

08:48 schestowitz-TR; can modify, sell etc. at least pass on...

08:50 Techrights-sec; ^topic ?

08:50 mjg59_; Phoronix has *always* been rephrased mailing list messages

08:50 schestowitz-TR; yes, copying notesyes, copying notes

08:50 mjg59_; Michael has never actually understood any of the stuff he's writing about

08:55 Techrights-sec; having caused a world full of security problems through bad design and

08:55 Techrights-sec; implementation, m$ is wrongfully posing as a leader in data protection;

08:55 Techrights-sec; problems cannot generally be solved by the same people and methods as

08:55 Techrights-sec; caused them to begin with;

08:55 Techrights-sec; ^ topic ?

08:57 schestowitz-TR; I'll hawk or watch out for any new items in the news that reaffirm this deception

08:57 schestowitz-TR; there's one almost every day


9 AM, October 6

09:01 schestowitz-TR; i cannot quite recall the last time the FSF published an essay

09:01 schestowitz-TR; it did some formal calls for talks and announced times for IRC sessions

09:01 schestowitz-TR; but those are "meta"

09:01 schestowitz-TR; GNU used to routinely have some new articles from RMS

09:01 schestowitz-TR; he still writes some, but less than in prior years

09:01 schestowitz-TR; pointing this out is scattering salt over wounds, hence not a topid

09:01 schestowitz-TR; the other day there were some good irc discussions about erosion of rights due to

09:01 schestowitz-TR; digitisation

09:01 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot quite recall all the pertinent details anymore, let alone the context

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09:08 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Thus spake the master programmer: time for you to leave. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/05.1

↺ gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/05.1

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09:20 Techrights-sec; Can the details be looked up from the logs? It too would be a good topic.

09:20 Techrights-sec; 1) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hundreds-of-microsoft-sql-servers-backdoored-with-new-malware/

↺ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hundreds-of-microsoft-sql-servers-backdoored-with-new-malware/

09:20 Techrights-sec; 2) https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu

09:20 Techrights-sec; 3) profit!!

09:20 Techrights-sec; though technically that is running within "drawbridge" and not within Ubuntu

09:20 Techrights-sec; itself

09:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Hundreds of Microsoft SQL servers backdoored with new malware

09:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu

09:23 Techrights-sec; https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/drawbridge-what-sql-server-on-linux-is-built-on/

↺ https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/drawbridge-what-sql-server-on-linux-is-built-on/

09:23 Techrights-sec; Best though to focus on the real tools which m$ tries to draw people away from:

09:23 Techrights-sec; postgresql, mariadb, sqlite3, etc

09:23 Techrights-sec; ^ topic ?

09:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-threedots.ovh | Drawbridge: what SQL Server on Linux is built on random blog

09:23 schestowitz-TR; yes, adding to notes

09:30 schestowitz-TR; side topic, re microsoft and others

09:30 schestowitz-TR; people tend to wrongly assume that if you act nice or appease a bullyy or sociopaths things will improve

09:30 schestowitz-TR; and they will leave you alone

09:30 schestowitz-TR; but that's wrong

09:30 schestowitz-TR; sociopaths do not think like healthy people

09:30 mjg59_; You do demonstrate that pretty clearly

09:33 schestowitz-TR; roy noorda learned this from experience and the same seems tro be applicable to a certain kind of trolls

09:33 schestowitz-TR; *ray

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09:52 Techrights-sec; appeasement never works; furthermore they are, as you point out, incorrect

09:52 Techrights-sec; in projecting their values onto a group which is ideologically, diametrically

09:52 Techrights-sec; opposed to those very values.

09:52 schestowitz-TR; I think if today and tomorrow (off work) I spend just all the time keeping TM in good form and up to date (speed),

09:52 schestowitz-TR; that alone would be nice

09:52 schestowitz-TR; but I will try to do videos in "chains" again

09:52 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot more efficient when done this way, the hard part is gathering enough deent topic and brainstorming

09:52 schestowitz-TR; if the idea come by reading other sites, they may not be original

09:52 schestowitz-TR; and can be covered properly by clustering related coverage with some editorial comments (imho)

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10 AM, October 6

10:00 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/2016/03/05/psychopath-vs-sociopath/

http://techrights.org/2016/03/05/psychopath-vs-sociopath/

10:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guest Post: Whats the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Sociopath? | Techrights

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10:02 schestowitz-TR; you know what sorts of things noorda said about ballmer and gates after they had buried him with fake "kindness"

10:02 schestowitz-TR; so I'll spare the quote seeking

10:02 schestowitz-TR; either way, canonical and MarkS are maybe not malicious, but their playing along is a malignant cancer that spreads upstream

10:03 Techrights-sec; Sufficiently advance incompetence is indistinguishable from malice :/

10:05 schestowitz-TR; MarkS is not mean-spirited, I spoke to him before

10:05 schestowitz-TR; his business was not profitable

10:05 schestowitz-TR; so he has canned the CEO and is experimenting with all sorts of approaches

10:05 schestowitz-TR; all that GAFAM hoddling, IME, gives THEM benefits, little of benefiot to Ubuntu

10:05 schestowitz-TR; and to gnu/linux in general

10:05 schestowitz-TR; it's an experiment and it harms the brand, even the viability of the company

10:05 schestowitz-TR; quite a few key people resigned

10:05 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot claim to know the true reasons

10:05 schestowitz-TR; I could look up some names and positions, based on memory

10:05 schestowitz-TR; same thing happed in red hat

10:05 schestowitz-TR; 3 CEOs in 3 years

10:10 psydruid; is Canonical doing well financially

10:13 schestowitz-TR; they claims so now

10:13 schestowitz-TR; after many eyars of losses

10:13 schestowitz-TR; but sellouts are like this

10:13 schestowitz-TR; you make a little in the SHORT-TERM

10:13 schestowitz-TR; but screwing those whom you counted on

10:13 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec:

10:13 schestowitz-TR; even UK Conservatives have been more StrongAndStable than this

10:13 schestowitz-TR; the turnover PM-wise

10:13 schestowitz-TR; I need not say 'too' much about UK politics atm

10:13 schestowitz-TR; as there's an application to be assessed

10:23 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: to put it another way, with far fewer typos ;-) Canonical closed bug #1 in Ubuntu and basically changed the mission

10:23 schestowitz-TR; but it already invested a lot of money in farming goodwill

10:23 schestowitz-TR; like volunteers' time (support in forums, wiki, advocacy)

10:23 schestowitz-TR; so it is burning what it invested in

10:24 schestowitz-TR; in hope that the new mission or 'Plan b' will pay off

10:24 schestowitz-TR; Mandriva was royally pissed off when MarkS openly moaned there was no money in the desktop market

10:24 schestowitz-TR; because Mandriva did have a plana

10:24 schestowitz-TR; and the plan wasn't ShipIt -- using deep pockets to make it comvenient for people to 'choose' Ubuntu

10:25 schestowitz-TR; it was not long after that... that MarkS sucked up to Azure in public

10:25 schestowitz-TR; and tried to rebrand as "clown"

10:25 schestowitz-TR; IMHO, unless there are MASSIVE price hikes (there are; I see it in ByteMark UK)

10:26 schestowitz-TR; the whole clown business model will benefit very few

10:26 schestowitz-TR; even webhosting was never a ver lucrative buisness

10:26 schestowitz-TR; lots of money and time spent maintainig the servers and helping clients

10:26 schestowitz-TR; mitigating securityy incidents

10:26 schestowitz-TR; with hope that one day, over time, there will be profits

10:26 schestowitz-TR; where I work we provide support

10:27 schestowitz-TR; the hosts aren't us, not anymore

10:27 schestowitz-TR; we no longer use our premises for the hosting

10:27 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot of trouble

10:27 schestowitz-TR; like, when ISP problems happen

10:27 schestowitz-TR; and then you have to send staff after midnight to the rack

10:27 schestowitz-TR; the following day that staff is far too tired to function

10:28 schestowitz-TR; clown computing bills are soaring

10:28 schestowitz-TR; of course they use "energy crisis" as a pretext, even if energy isn't the highest cost component

10:30 psydruid; "energy crisis" seems to be mostly a European thing

10:31 schestowitz-TR; if russia does not export through east europe, it has a surplus to send to china dn toehrs

10:31 schestowitz-TR; the cynic in me says, china/wuhan did a one-two punch

10:31 schestowitz-TR; and then russia comes with the suppercut

10:31 schestowitz-TR; *upper

10:31 schestowitz-TR; brexit was promoted by groups that had enjoyed russian media's support

10:31 schestowitz-TR; they divide and rule europe

10:32 Techrights-sec; ack

10:32 psydruid; I've read that in some countries, possibly including Russia, using local cloud is becoming mandatory for at least some businesses

10:33 Techrights-sec; Yes with the inappropriately premature closure of bug #1, Ubuntu changed

10:33 Techrights-sec; missions about 180 degrees away from the community it is dependent on.

10:34 psydruid; I noticed Ubuntu became buggier in 2019

10:34 schestowitz-TR; and debian?

10:34 psydruid; and Debian started working better than before

10:35 psydruid; so I stopped evaluating Ubuntu at that point

10:35 schestowitz-TR; that's great news

10:35 schestowitz-TR; I first installed debian ages ago

10:35 psydruid; I'll get rid of all Ubuntu installs for relatives and myself by the end of the year

10:36 schestowitz-TR; and also had it on a server around 2010

10:36 schestowitz-TR; in 2020 both rianne and I used it as daily driver with kde

10:36 schestowitz-TR; then my sister too

10:36 schestowitz-TR; debian 10 is very very solid

10:36 schestowitz-TR; and predictable

10:36 schestowitz-TR; debian 11 is not too bad, but "upgrading" from 10 to 11 is not a great idea

10:36 schestowitz-TR; maybe fresh install.. maybe

10:37 schestowitz-TR; my sister had a ton of issues when upgrading to it

10:37 psydruid; It's not that I didn't try

10:37 psydruid; Ubuntu didn't work correctly on multiple architectures whereas Debian simply didn't have those problems

10:37 schestowitz-TR; like old things only worked in 10

10:37 schestowitz-TR; so i told her, why did you move? pressure from work

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10:38 Techrights-sec;

10:38 Techrights-sec; ack

10:39 schestowitz-TR; the funny thing is, i think vista 10 -> 11 is similar scenario

10:39 schestowitz-TR; but inherently different systems

10:39 schestowitz-TR; one serves the master (company)

10:39 schestowitz-TR; the other claims to prioritise users

10:39 schestowitz-TR; iceweasel showed how far Debian would go to PREVENT what Canonical did with Amazon

10:39 psydruid; vista 10 is slower than vista 11 in a virtual machine for some reason

10:39 schestowitz-TR; or Mozilla did with only TM back then

10:39 schestowitz-TR; before Firefox became spyware

10:40 psydruid; but it's just another layer of lipstick on the same pig

10:40 psydruid; not something you can rely on for anything

10:40 schestowitz-TR; microsoft needs to slow down market erosion

10:40 schestowitz-TR; india (1500 million people) is not buying new PCs

10:41 schestowitz-TR; Sam Varghese showed the figures 2 weeks ago

10:41 schestowitz-TR; sales plunged

10:41 schestowitz-TR; so people recycle old ones, I assume

10:41 psydruid; I can understand that

10:41 schestowitz-TR; with Indian distros

10:41 schestowitz-TR; gnu/linux climbed to 10% there this month

10:41 psydruid; my machines are all 5-6 years old

10:41 schestowitz-TR; to me, the only explanation is, people check what can be done with the old PCs

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10:42 psydruid; and work just fine with Debian

10:42 schestowitz-TR; mine are about the same agwe

10:42 schestowitz-TR; 2015, 16,17

10:42 schestowitz-TR; the pi is 2020

10:43 schestowitz-TR; pcworld is offloading lots of machines that cannot run vista 11

10:43 schestowitz-TR; sold like 50% or less RRP

10:43 Techrights-sec; Debian is a lot less solid with systemd now

10:43 psydruid; even KDE Plasma works better again for me now that I am on Bookworm

10:43 psydruid; but I know what I'm doing and install LTS for others

10:44 psydruid; my newest machine is a used Jetson Nano from 2019

10:46 schestowitz-TR; nano does debian mostly iirc

10:46 schestowitz-TR; not sure if by default

10:46 schestowitz-TR; and it's not so cheap

10:46 schestowitz-TR; probably doing graphics well, due to nvidia being involved

10:46 schestowitz-TR; the pi machines are getting harder to get

10:46 schestowitz-TR; and expensive if youdo find them

10:46 schestowitz-TR; from less official "channels"

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I'm glad rianne bought one, barely, just before the war erupted

10:47 schestowitz-TR; she got a raspi400 for about 65 pounds inc. adapter and shipping, iirc

10:47 psydruid; I got it for 30

10:47 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec helped find it online

10:47 schestowitz-TR; at first they had none in stock

10:47 schestowitz-TR; and she signed up for alerts

10:47 schestowitz-TR; day later they got shipment arriving and within hours we reserved and bought it

10:49 schestowitz-TR; is gaRUDA ANY GOOD, psydruid?

10:49 schestowitz-TR; SORRY, CAPS

10:50 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: TYPING WHILE EATING

10:50 psydruid; businesses appear to be buying lots of pis

10:50 psydruid; I don't know why production isn't higher than it is right now

10:50 psydruid; I don't know, I don't use fancy distros

10:51 schestowitz-TR; I HEARD GOOD THINGS

10:51 schestowitz-TR; ffs, caps lock

10:54 psydruid; I've settled on debian because it generally works, has most of the software I need and takes some of the work out of my hands so I can focus on other things

10:55 psydruid; probably the same argument as Linus for settling on Fedora


11 AM, October 6

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11:05 schestowitz-TR; yeah, he is still on fedora

11:05 schestowitz-TR; based on last month's report

11:19 schestowitz-TR; re apple story, better if corrupted scotus does not touch anything that can 'overturn' alice

11:19 schestowitz-TR; side notes: mancity 'thrashed' copenhagen fc 5-0

11:19 schestowitz-TR; today we'll have more covid figures at 4pm

11:19 schestowitz-TR; i used to be able to write more when disclosurees were daily

11:19 schestowitz-TR; argued with nhs clerical staff yesterdaty about the public safety

11:19 schestowitz-TR; covidiots get facts from other covidiots

11:19 schestowitz-TR; they think this thing is over because they bought a product (or 3 doses of it)

11:19 schestowitz-TR; hence, it's not safe to go shopping for other products and watch football

11:19 schestowitz-TR; that causes further mutation

11:21 Techrights-sec; Yes overturning Alice is a possibility there. I cannot guess at the risk though

11:21 schestowitz-TR; the furher mutation lessens the incentive to get "old" products which target a phanton enemy

11:21 schestowitz-TR; which already mutated yesrs ago

11:21 schestowitz-TR; like superbugs in the context of antiviotics

11:21 schestowitz-TR; but virus is different

11:21 schestowitz-TR; tell that to people who take horse 'medicine' for a virus

11:28 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Cops kill dogs literally all the time. It happens so often even the DOJ has taken notice." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/court-strips-immunity-from-cop-who-shot-a-dog-within-seconds-of-arriving-on-the-scene-of-a-non-crime/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/court-strips-immunity-from-cop-who-shot-a-dog-within-seconds-of-arriving-on-the-scene-of-a-non-crime/

11:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Court Strips Immunity From Cop Who Shot A Dog Within Seconds Of Arriving On The Scene Of A Non-Crime | Techdirt

11:28 schestowitz-TR; draft

11:31 Techrights-sec; checking

11:32 Techrights-sec; What is the yellowish line in the charts?

11:32 Techrights-sec; There are rectangles in the charts saying "linux" but which line do they refer

11:32 Techrights-sec; to? The key at the bottom does not have the yellowish color listed.

11:34 schestowitz-TR; right

11:34 schestowitz-TR; I'll leave that as is in drafts

11:34 schestowitz-TR; and do a video about it along with the rest

11:34 schestowitz-TR; I can also mention norway and finland in passing

11:34 schestowitz-TR; but they are small populations

11:34 schestowitz-TR; the goal is to explain why windows is shrinking and where

11:34 schestowitz-TR; it'll take a while to get around to videos

11:34 schestowitz-TR; I'm still going through Links

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noon, October 6

12:33 schestowitz-TR; "GAFAM"... our coined term is spreading!! gemini://gemini.astropirados.space/gemlog/instagram.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.astropirados.space/gemlog/instagram.gmi


1 PM, October 6

13:16 Techrights-sec; USPTO going rogue: https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174

↺ https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174

13:16 Techrights-sec; ^ topic

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13:16 Techrights-sec; RPi could have easily avoided all that damage, their selling out a little

13:16 Techrights-sec; probably lead to them selling out a lot by including microsofters inside

13:16 Techrights-sec; the company and on the board :(

13:16 Techrights-sec; Certainly many of their staff have turned out to be rats.

13:16 Techrights-sec; and working against RPi and for M$ while on the clock.

13:17 schestowitz-TR; we did millions in damages to raspi ltd after calling them out

13:17 schestowitz-TR; they paid a price for bad deal, likely under nda

13:17 schestowitz-TR; with 2 obligatory blog posts shilling vs and azure


2 PM, October 6

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14:10 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "From the way that the Anglo media are treating the October 2 Brazilian first-round presidential elections, a casual news consumer may get the impression that the Brazilian Workers Party suffered a crushing defeat." https://fair.org/home/media-spin-lula-victory-as-defeat/ | Source: FAIR

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14:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Media Spin Lula Victory as Defeat - FAIR

14:10 schestowitz-TR; ^ media digging its own grave

14:10 Techrights-sec; ack

14:11 schestowitz-TR; linkedin = scams

14:11 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: not our department, blame foss

14:11 schestowitz-TR; zdent: microsoft victim of foss

14:14 Techrights-sec; The media sure helps them with all that misdirection.

14:15 schestowitz-TR; disinformation as a service

14:15 schestowitz-TR; just finished Links

14:16 schestowitz-TR; doing RSS now

14:16 schestowitz-TR; later the videos

14:16 schestowitz-TR; because i don't want TM to be "bhind"

14:16 schestowitz-TR; the speed is a key advantage

14:16 schestowitz-TR; rianne barely finds anything worthy today

14:16 schestowitz-TR; and hasn't been lately, either

14:16 schestowitz-TR; I need to ghroup things to make them worthy of posting, power in numbers

14:16 schestowitz-TR; but this is not limited to FOSS

14:16 schestowitz-TR; it's a "desert" issue

14:24 Techrights-sec; ack

14:39 schestowitz-TR; rianne has a good sense or smell for SMFT BS

14:39 schestowitz-TR; this morning she mentioned that she noticed linuxlinks and itsfoss onclude many pro-Microsoft BS sentences

14:39 schestowitz-TR; and that she needs to work around them

14:39 schestowitz-TR; she doesn't know all the publishers' history and people

14:39 schestowitz-TR; but learns frome xperience over time

14:39 schestowitz-TR; it's also why curation cannot be automated

14:39 Techrights-sec; Good call. She's also super-fast in finding material for TM too. Speed

14:39 Techrights-sec; is a huge advantage.

14:40 schestowitz-TR; marius having direct access helps

14:45 schestowitz-TR; two key factor: expoerience with rss readers (fast is hard, also dupe detection/recognition... needs human understanding... helps with clustering.. Gulag

14:45 schestowitz-TR; Noise gets the clustering wrong a LOT)

14:45 schestowitz-TR; momentum: no audience, no incentive to do the above and fast, i.e. very often

14:45 schestowitz-TR; chick-and-egg

14:45 schestowitz-TR; *chicken

14:45 schestowitz-TR; Google is clustering things based on keywords in headlines

14:45 schestowitz-TR; but then connected totally unrelated stories

14:45 schestowitz-TR; maybe Gulag Noise will be next product to be canned... for an inferior "replacement"

14:45 schestowitz-TR; like they do with voice calls

14:45 psydruid; RPi siding with MSFT didn't bring them much other than influencing the next generation of free software developers into becoming dependent on closed source MSFT tools

14:46 schestowitz-TR; to sjvn, the current editorial workflow lessens the incentive to break neews

14:46 schestowitz-TR; the "breaking news" can come out 3 days late. LOL

14:58 Techrights-sec; RPi's siding with MSFT was not about benefit to RPi, but to MSFT at the expense

14:58 Techrights-sec; of the RPi community and ecosystem

14:58 schestowitz-TR; in deals with Microsoft only one side benefits


3 PM, October 6

15:00 Techrights-sec; Duplicate detection based on URL is "easy" but based on topic or, worse, theme

15:00 Techrights-sec; is very hard.

15:00 Techrights-sec; No company has ever survived a partnership with M$; RPi won't, that's for sure

15:00 Techrights-sec; just looking at the way things have been heading since they flubbed that

15:00 Techrights-sec; decision.

15:00 schestowitz-TR; they won't be first to survive this

15:00 schestowitz-TR; but it seems like for 20 months almost no more Microsoft sellout, at least not in the open

15:00 schestowitz-TR; i know about the ads and the board

15:09 psydruid; there are few who have even tried to run Vista on RPi hardware

15:09 psydruid; and if more people did, that would make AMD and Intel and their OEMs unhappy

15:09 psydruid; so there isn't much to win for MSFT either

15:10 psydruid; except for retaining the status quo

15:10 schestowitz-TR; the goal is to sabotage pi

15:10 psydruid; which is going away too

15:10 schestowitz-TR; like they did olpc/xo

15:10 schestowitz-TR; or turn those users into azure/vs drones

15:18 Techrights-sec; Aside from financialization, M$ makes its money off of monopoly rents so

15:18 Techrights-sec; maintaining the monopoly is the only way to stay afloat. As we see from

15:18 Techrights-sec; their failed profits which are smaller than the government bailouts, that

15:18 Techrights-sec; is no longer working. Below ~ 85% market share in their OEM monopoly or

15:18 Techrights-sec; in their productivity software file format monopoly they cannot charge rents.

15:18 Techrights-sec; Poof. Their goes their income source.

15:20 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft 2021: we are worth 2000 billion dollars

15:20 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft 2020: we are firing 20,000 workers

15:20 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft 2022^

15:32 Techrights-sec; The Azure layoffs are the most interesting because the are going to such

15:32 Techrights-sec; great efforts to pretend that the division is going ok when it's clearly losing

15:32 Techrights-sec; money.

15:32 Techrights-sec;

15:34 schestowitz-TR; clown is like "metaverse"

15:34 schestowitz-TR; it's bluff to keep shareholders around

15:34 schestowitz-TR; twitter and FB have lots of fluff going on

15:34 schestowitz-TR; you know youtube cannot make money based on the latest self-harming moves

15:34 schestowitz-TR; people don't harm themselves just for fun

15:34 Techrights-sec; Bill has two business skills and shoehorns every strategy into them:

15:34 Techrights-sec; 1) extend an existing monopoly, 2) bluff like crazy

15:36 schestowitz-TR; ryan says 'billburgers' are failing badly

15:36 schestowitz-TR; in this kind of economy no wonders

15:36 schestowitz-TR; the price collapsed

15:36 schestowitz-TR; nobody buys them

15:36 schestowitz-TR; rianne get slots of these products on the pennies

15:36 schestowitz-TR; who would buy this overpriced shit at this time?

15:36 schestowitz-TR; even meat and milk (and anything absed on them) got a lot more expensive

15:36 Techrights-sec; The US and perhaps several other markets appear to have been in a recession

15:36 Techrights-sec; for a few decades with occasional dips into actual depression, at least

15:36 Techrights-sec; according to the old-style definitions.

15:38 schestowitz-TR; today in TR IRC we spoke about real unemploymenr rate

15:38 schestowitz-TR; dc went off topic, as usual

15:38 schestowitz-TR; i hope the price of popcorn (cord) does not change

15:38 schestowitz-TR; for some of us not having kids is enough for reprieve

15:38 schestowitz-TR; there is apparentyly also a bewingf mental health crisis

15:38 schestowitz-TR; impacting kids in particular

15:38 schestowitz-TR; (I know a few)

15:52 schestowitz-TR; new covid numbers in 8 mins

15:52 schestowitz-TR; i think i finished meeting people for the year

15:52 schestowitz-TR; one meeting tomorrow, then that's it

15:52 schestowitz-TR; estimates are 2 million infested atm

15:52 schestowitz-TR; and rising fast

15:52 Techrights-sec; ack

15:52 Techrights-sec; Social control media on its own is a health crisis. However, it is greatly

15:52 Techrights-sec; amplified by the distancing / lockdown which feed even more misues of it.

15:52 Techrights-sec; Then there are all the cuts to activities and similar budgets hidden by

15:52 Techrights-sec; the pandemic.


4 PM, October 6

16:01 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> NHS late to release this week's figures, which should be posted daily, not weekly https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache "Last updated on Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 4:00pm"

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16:03 schestowitz-TR; results minutes late: "did you try retsarting the program?"

16:03 schestowitz-TR; results hours late: "did you try restarting the computer?"

16:03 schestowitz-TR; results days late: "did you try reinstalling the OS or buy a new PC?"

16:22 Techrights-sec; restarting the program / system as a "solution" comes from Windows ability

16:22 Techrights-sec; to crash for no reason after minutes or seconds of uptime. It would also freeze

16:22 Techrights-sec; a lot too necessitating use of the debugging sequence ctrl-alt-del :

16:22 Techrights-sec; """

16:22 Techrights-sec; https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expeIt was like a five-minute job in doing it. I didnt realize I was going to create a

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16:22 Techrights-sec; cultural icon when I did it, he said. But I have to share the credit. I may have invented it, but I think Bill made it famous.

16:22 Techrights-sec; """

16:22 Techrights-sec; https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expect-command-widely/

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16:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The rest of the story: Control-Alt-Delete inventor didn't expect it to be widely used GeekWire

16:22 Techrights-sec; It still crashes often, but maybe not quite as often, and reboots so that

16:22 Techrights-sec; useds forget quickly about it and try to pick up with their tasks where

16:22 Techrights-sec; they left off. A real dollar value on the increased productivity a nation

16:22 Techrights-sec; would benefit from could be calculated for migrating to GNU/Linux, *BSD,

16:22 Techrights-sec; or even MacOS. Most current spam would disappear as would > 99% of the world's

16:22 Techrights-sec; malware, and more or less 100% of the world's ransomware.

16:22 Techrights-sec; Rebooting the system is superstition not repair.

16:22 Techrights-sec; But the masses have been trained to accept it.

16:23 schestowitz-TR; also after installing a program

16:26 schestowitz-TR; from what I have read the opec policy was an agreement between ksa and russia

16:26 schestowitz-TR; so you know putrler pulls strings still

16:26 schestowitz-TR; he had it easy during trump

16:26 schestowitz-TR; many institutions have failed to remove the tainted parts

16:26 schestowitz-TR; inc. scotus

16:27 schestowitz-TR; lol! nhs: only minutes ago: the data will be ready an hour later. must be a reboot then ;-)

16:27 schestowitz-TR; maybe they even lost some data because excel crashes :-)

16:32 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/late-nhs/

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16:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week!


5 PM, October 6

17:02 schestowitz-TR; 5pm. still npo data.

17:02 schestowitz-TR; *no

17:13 schestowitz-TR; campbell now self-censors far too much to be informative

17:13 schestowitz-TR; I think that on that bnasis alone I will can him

17:13 schestowitz-TR; he cannot speak his mind out

17:23 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-hospitalisations-october/

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17:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year

17:43 schestowitz-TR; headsup: i try to get a little more involved in techpol irc

17:43 schestowitz-TR; not much but a little

17:43 schestowitz-TR; it gets shown in -social at the bottom

17:43 schestowitz-TR; OTAx3 (I think, 2 at least)

17:43 Techrights-sec; np

17:43 Techrights-sec; Maybe responses from the main channel but which are off topic can be responded

17:43 Techrights-sec; to there also.


6 PM, October 6

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18:30 schestowitz-TR; done

18:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, that's a good solution


7 PM, October 6

19:56 schestowitz-TR; draft

19:56 schestowitz-TR; working on the next 2 as well, in tandem

19:56 schestowitz-TR; drafy - sql server

19:56 schestowitz-TR; last draft left now re market share

19:56 Techrights-sec; ack

19:56 Techrights-sec; checking

19:56 Techrights-sec; ok

19:57 schestowitz-TR; after this rianne and I will "clean the feeds"


8 PM, October 6

20:01 Techrights-sec; the lines need to be labeled, what is the beige / yellowish line?

20:01 Techrights-sec; it is not in the key

20:47 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-september-october-hospital/

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20:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020)


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