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00:00 activelow; it is several issues, where c++ belongs and where it doesn't; vendor-locks, exclusion of tcc, etc.
00:00 schestowitz; gcc is vast
00:01 schestowitz; lots of that is just cruft inserted or dumped by shitty, very shitty and hostile, "hardware" companies
00:01 schestowitz; same issue that happens in Linux
00:01 activelow; because, if anyone favored GCC of tcc, that's ok. problem is kernel vendor-locked into gcc and clang, and locked out some others
00:01 schestowitz; they don't try to refactor and reuse
00:01 schestowitz; they just dump lots of crap
00:01 activelow; gcc *over tcc
00:01 schestowitz; it's "cheaper"
00:01 schestowitz; to them
00:01 schestowitz; not to Linux or kernel.org as a project
00:01 schestowitz; the suits don't know what reuse and refactoring means
00:01 schestowitz; they say things like,
00:01 schestowitz; "this driver is our INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY"
00:03 XRevan86; activelow: So kernel developers are supposed to write way more complicated code just to appease the wants of a single person?
00:03 XRevan86; Otherwise they're evil.
00:03 psydroid8; Do be evil
00:03 XRevan86; We all have our obligations. Like to write code in C89 (okay, C99).
00:04 schestowitz; XRevan86: no
00:04 schestowitz; they are loyal to their employer
00:04 schestowitz; not to the project
00:04 schestowitz; not to the community
00:04 XRevan86; schestowitz: Again, doesn't matter who they are.
00:04 schestowitz; because the employer hasn't much of a stake in Linux as a whole
00:04 psydroid8; (some construct that is used in Irish English)
00:04 XRevan86; schestowitz: Look at what OpenBSD or FreeBSD are doing
00:05 schestowitz; sometimes (e.g. "fuck you nvidia") all they care about is increasing the unit amount of crap they sell
00:05 XRevan86; It doesn't matter who the people are. They're all evil to activelow.
00:05 schestowitz; the employers are likely evil
00:05 schestowitz; and the people who work there comply
00:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: Whose? NetBSD's?
00:05 schestowitz; like micro larabel with his AMD crate
00:06 schestowitz; i don't know netbsd well enough
00:06 XRevan86; Illumos'?
00:06 schestowitz; generally speaking, kernel hackers are a lot less evil than people who write proprietary software junk like turbotax
00:06 schestowitz; *tux
00:06 schestowitz; tux machines does not cover these
00:07 schestowitz; those are people who sold their soul to crap
00:07 schestowitz; for compensation
00:07 activelow; XRevan86: pardon? when talking to some devs in recent days some of them were rather friendly and helped me with some hints
00:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: The scope of the conversation doesn't involve any of that. The important thing is that all those big operating systems, no matter the origin, do not support TinyCC, and won't.
00:08 activelow; and, if a decade of millions of man hours are at stake with some questions raised
00:08 activelow; tinycc is only one cornerstone of proof for this hypothesis of mine
00:09 schestowitz; DaemonFC: firefox 91 is FINALLY available in Debian 10
00:09 schestowitz; 91
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00:09 schestowitz; that's like... what? last summer?
00:09 XRevan86; And maybe, just maybe, that's just because it would be self-harmful to try to support a shitty little compiler by limiting one's options in the language featureset.
00:09 schestowitz; mozilla is rust ol' shite
00:09 activelow; XRevan86: wrong again, tinycc had proven flexible with extensions beyond c99
00:10 activelow; however, even this wasn't good enough, for tiny "irelevant" niche
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00:11 XRevan86; activelow: Alright, try to compile OpenBSD with it then.
00:11 XRevan86; let's see how that goes
00:12 activelow; XRevan86: i was already considering this. OpenBSD did verify, 2007, they could feed their base system and kernel into PCC for x86 target
00:12 XRevan86; After failure, try to pitch the idea to the developers, I would be curious to know their reaction to "please stop using these compiler features".
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00:13 activelow; haven't tried tcc yet with OpenBSD; besides i fear the system integration with gentoo-portage and GNU userspace on top of an OpenBSD kernel won't be trivial, and i am not yet willing to ditch portage because this is what i used to dependency-track upstream, remove all c++ dependencies (systemd, opengl, etc. etc.)
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00:14 XRevan86; activelow: I was just suggesting that as a PoC.
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00:14 XRevan86; That sentence made me cough.
00:14 activelow; i haven't got that much time anymore, and 0income is a problem too
00:14 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> that's like... what? last summer?
00:14 XRevan86; activelow: Stop doing useless things then?
00:14 DaemonFC; Yes, and Firefox 79 hadn't been maintained since October.
00:14 XRevan86; activelow: No one is going to pay you for this.
00:14 DaemonFC; Not even with CVE patches.
00:15 DaemonFC; And there's already sites that won't work with Firefox 91.
00:15 DaemonFC; :)
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00:24 activelow; XRevan86> activelow: So kernel developers are supposed to write way more complicated code just to appease the wants of a single person?
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00:24 activelow; XRevan86: kernel 2.4 and 4.6 could be compiled with tcc; and cannot be anymore
00:24 activelow; that's why, this question is worth any further investigation.
00:25 activelow; *not
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00:26 activelow; instead you should have asked: why was an already functional system setup "improved" upon, increasing LoC 10x, slowing down compilation time 100x etc. etc.
00:26 XRevan86; activelow: Any proof of that? I can only find information on that TinyCC built a *subset* of Linux 2.4, with patches.
00:27 activelow; XRevan86: posted it here, yesterday already
00:27 XRevan86; activelow: Again, use GCC with -O0, be amazed of how blazing fast it is.
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00:27 activelow; the most recent talk was this: youtu.be/iU0Z0vBKrtQ
00:28 XRevan86; The build result will also be comparable to what TinyCC does, so should be good enough for you.
00:28 activelow; XRevan86: there is no benefit with gcc -O0, because the compile-time performance doesn't improve sufficiently
00:28 activelow; compilation of gcc and compiling anything with it is slow, in particular g++
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00:29 XRevan86; "The result is slow, but it's created very quickly"
00:29 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sljnqe/name_something_you_could_afford_with_1_superbowl/
00:29 TR Bot; Name something you could afford with 1 Superbowl ticket : LateStageCapitalism
00:29 DaemonFC; BaronHK
00:29 DaemonFC;
00:29 DaemonFC; just now
00:29 DaemonFC; A 3 bedroom 2 bath house in Indiana in decent shape, with a garage, and an acre of land, and 10 YEARS of the $500 annual property tax payments. Paid in full.
00:29 DaemonFC; -or-
00:29 DaemonFC; A 10% down payment on a similar house in Illinois and nothing with which to pay the annual $4,000 of property tax.
00:29 DaemonFC; Illinois: Come live the Democrat Party dream.
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00:30 activelow; XRevan86: i didn't succed with compiling linux kernel with tcc, i do not know the runtime performance yet; rough estimate is a close equivalent to gcc -O0, yes, and that's good enough
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00:30 activelow; if, hardfloat support remained, which it can with tcc, because those are some more crucial code paths where runtime performance is critical
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00:31 XRevan86; I wonder what happened since 2018. Probably the world just kept spinning.
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00:33 XRevan86; (and 10s that's obviously a subset too, good luck using that on real hardware, even in 2018)
00:34 DaemonFC; My mom's family is a bunch of Bubbas that embody all of the characteristics they make fun of in other people.
00:34 activelow; may main concern at this frontline isn't the runtime-performance of the binaries
00:35 activelow; the main concern is i cannot estimate yet how much effort was required to improve upon tcc (it required the gcc -S option, which is used inside Kbuild procedure, to output ASM from the compiler instead of a binary)
00:35 activelow; one example, and that's not the only one
00:35 DaemonFC; While the credit card company is literally suing my cousin for a cup of Starbucks she ordered 3 years ago for $6, which now costs $18, and is being garnished out of her paycheck by the court, among all the rest of the stuff, they preach personal responsibility and social obligations.
00:36 DaemonFC; While they're literally the people who put Starbucks on a charge card now and don't care what happens later because that's 36 months away.
00:36 XRevan86; activelow: I can safely estimate that it's not a one-person job.
00:36 activelow; and susematz stumbled upon many more issues for x86_64 qemu target; while i want to target aarch32 or aarch64
00:36 activelow; i am not at least sure if it is feasible
00:37 activelow; not because of tcc, because of FSF/GCC/GNU/Linux/IBM-Wintel/RedHat or whoever was resonsible for gcc and linux kernel
00:37 DaemonFC; I can buy one can of instant coffee for $3 at Walmart and make coffee out of it twice a day for the next 14 weeks.
00:37 activelow; because it was them, not tcc, who vendor-locked
00:38 XRevan86; Those darn developers and their lust for language syntax.
00:38 DaemonFC; But my cousins buy $6 cups of Starbucks twice a day until the card is maxed out and then get sued over it and it costs $18 a cup twice a day by that point.
00:38 TR News; "Most of my contributions to Free software continue to happen within Debian." https://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/2022/02/a-year-in-free-software.html #debian #gnu #linux #freesw
00:38 TR Bot; Free Software Activities for 2021
00:38 DaemonFC; And it's in a court system to humiliate them for not paying their bills.
00:38 TR News; The Coolest Controller Mod, Hands Down | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/the-coolest-controller-mod-hands-down/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
00:38 TR Bot; Coolest Controller Mod, Hands Down | Hackaday
00:38 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
00:38 TR News; It's a #GNU program, not "Linux" command; a kernel does not have such tools https://www.makeuseof.com/cut-command-examples-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
00:38 TR Bot; 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in Linux
00:38 TR Bot; GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
00:39 TR News; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/
00:39 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land | Techrights
00:39 DaemonFC; I suppose in theory you could include core utilities from the BSDs into a Linux distribution.
00:39 activelow; XRevan86: i consider it a strategic and hostile vendor-lock by Satan
00:39 DaemonFC; I don't know of anyone who does.
00:39 DaemonFC; It would no longer behave as applications expect a Linux system to behave.
00:39 TR News; [Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/ #Techrights #ILOAT #Europe #Corruption #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/
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00:39 TR Bot; [Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) | Techrights
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00:40 XRevan86; activelow: I know, I made an accurate assessment already.
00:40 TR News; "court granted the plaintiffs' motion for summary judgment on its cause of action for review under Section 1071 of the #Trademark Act. Garan, Incorporated and #Garan Services Corporation v. #Manimal , LLC, Case No. 3:20-cv-00623-IM (D. Oregon January 25, 2022)." http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/additional-garanimals-evidence-yields.html
00:40 TR Bot; The TTABlog: Additional "GARANIMALS" Evidence Yields District Court Reversal Of TTAB's "MANIMAL" Opposition Dismissal
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00:40 TR News; #copyright #copyrights #latvia #sweden http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/swedish-court-applies-c76219-cv-online.html
00:40 TR Bot; Swedish court applies C-762/19 CV-Online Latvia in parking app battle - The IPKat
00:40 XRevan86; activelow: Don't tell the Red Hat people that, or Satan will tell them to kickban you :).
00:41 DaemonFC; In Illinois, if someone sues you, there are court records, but all you can see is who sued and who got sued.
00:41 XRevan86; activelow: And don't use nicknames like PopeIsSatan666, those also trigger Satan worshippers a.k.a. channel moderators.
00:42 DaemonFC; Indiana dumps everything out, so you can actually see them running up their credit cards, line by line.
00:42 bnchs; everytime i keep doing something forbidden (like using tor), ISP keeps throttling my connection until my client just gives up
00:42 schestowitz; :/
00:43 bnchs; thats why you see me parting all the time
00:43 TR News; #SearX , an Alternative to #Gulag Scholar https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/02/searx-alternative-to-google-scholar.html #UbuntuBuzz
00:43 TR Bot; SearX, an Alternative to Google Scholar
00:43 MinceR; are VPN services and SSH also "forbidden"?
00:43 TR News; Latest #brainwash campaign from the oligarchs' protectors at #UKIPO http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/uk-ipo-announce-new-ip-crime-strategy.html see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/ #uk #monopolies
00:43 TR Bot; UK IPO announce new IP Counter-Infringement strategy - The IPKat
00:43 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part VIII: Perfidious Albion and Pusillanimous Hibernia | Techrights
00:44 bnchs; they don't say whats forbidden, but it's odd that they throttle our speed when i use tor
00:45 MinceR; the best kind of ISP
00:45 MinceR; like Deutsche Telekom, where "unlimited" actually has a monthly data limit
00:46 TR News; [Older] When #patents needlessly kill people for profit https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/democrats-congress-pharma-patent-strategies-report-reform #patent #monopolies
00:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/democrats-congress-pharma-patent-strategies-report-reform
00:46 TR Bot; IAM - US legislators call for screws to be tightened on pharma patent strategies
00:46 TR News; Designing devices for long-term care and reuse https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/uncharitable.html by Dr. #AndyFarnell #environment #nature #technofascism #ewaste
00:47 TR Bot; Designing devices for long-term care and reuse
00:48 TR News; #HowTo Build a #MorseCode Receiver with Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/morse-code-receiver-raspberry-pi #tomshardware
00:48 TR Bot; How to Build a Morse Code Receiver with Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware
00:49 TR News; "Some times Linux people take software minimalism a little bit too far and #rootdo is one of those cases, this is minimal replacement to #doas which is already excessively minimal." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7abih61ht-I #sudo #security
00:49 TR Bot; Rootdo Takes Linux Minimalism Way Too Far - Invidious
00:50 bnchs; there's gonna be a dodo command thats a minimal replacement to rootdo
00:50 bnchs; written in x86 assembly
00:50 MinceR; lol
00:50 MinceR; and then it will die out
00:50 XRevan86; activelow: For the record, everything I've said about Satan was pure concentrated mockery.
00:51 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808915.jpg
00:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808915.jpg
00:51 TR News; Disguising protection of #monopolies as a matter of "public health" or "safety" is not a new trick/lie http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/european-commission-calls-for-evidence.html #eu #europe #monopoly
00:51 TR Bot; European Commission calls for evidence on anti-counterfeit toolbox initiative - The IPKat
00:51 MinceR; introducing Satan++
00:51 TR News; TTABlog Test: Is "CRC BAKERY" Confusable with the "CRC" #Kosher Certification Mark, Both for Food Products? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/ttablog-test-is-crc-bakery-confusable.html #Trademarks #Trademark #TTAB #USPTO
00:51 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: Is "CRC BAKERY" Confusable with the "CRC" Kosher Certification Mark, Both for Food Products?
00:52 MinceR; "CRC" Kosher Certification Mark is confusable with Cyclic Redundancy Check, time to ban "CRC" Kosher Certification Mark.
00:52 bnchs; tbh when i wanna search for CRC-32, i don't want results about 32 kosher foods
00:52 TR News; These events promote the lie of "IP" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/sunday-surprises.html see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html #scarcity #propaganda
00:52 TR Bot; Sunday Surprises - The IPKat
00:52 TR Bot; Did You Say Intellectual Property? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
00:53 XRevan86; MinceR: Do they really expect someone to open up under this much pressure?
00:53 XRevan86; these things can't be forced.
00:54 MinceR; :>
00:54 TR News; [Older] #SoftwarePatents #cartel boosted by #IAM https://www.iam-media.com/patent-pools/analysis-indicates-access-advance-currently-the-top-hevc-patent-pool see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA #swpats #hevc
00:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/patent-pools/analysis-indicates-access-advance-currently-the-top-hevc-patent-pool
00:54 TR Bot; IAM - Analysis indicates that Access Advance is currently the top HEVC patent pool
00:54 TR Bot; MPEG-LA - Techrights
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00:56 TR News; No, #EU does NOT like #Whistleblowing ... heck, it doesn't even mention #Whistleblowers ... won't protect them https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/eu-whistleblowing-directive-what-5583936/ see what they do on #epo http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/merkel-epo-legacy/
00:56 TR Bot; Whistleblowing Directive: What Companies Need to Know | Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP - JDSupra
00:56 TR Bot; Angela Merkels Coalition Has Not Helped EPO Staff and Not Even Bloggers Blackmailed by EPO Management | Techrights
00:56 XRevan86; MinceR: Satan++, also known as Satao
00:57 TR News; Well, #designpatents ought not even exist at all; it's misuse of #patent #law https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/design-patent-prior-art-must-be-from-5544873/ see http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/
00:57 TR Bot; Patent Prior Art Must Be From Same or Analogous Field as Claimed Article of Manufacture | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
00:57 TR Bot; Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights
00:57 TR News; "the #PTAB entered its final written decision in #UnifiedPatents , LLC v. 2BCom, LLC on the patentability of the claims of U.S. #Patent No. 7,127,210" https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/printed-publication-proof-cross-t-s-and-5076733/
00:57 TR Bot; Publication Proof Cross Ts And Dot Is | Jones Day - JDSupra
01:01 XRevan86; At least I've finally had this conversation with him, it's been brewing in me, but I knew it was going to be long.
01:01 TR News; Links 6/2/2022: #LibreDWG 0.12.5 and FOSDEM 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/libredwg-0-12-5/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/libredwg-0-12-5/
01:01 TR Bot; Links 6/2/2022: LibreDWG 0.12.5 and FOSDEM 2022 | Techrights
01:02 TR News; #OpenHardware /Modding: Raspberry Pi Projects and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161168 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:02 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi Projects and More | Tux Machines
01:02 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161173 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:03 TR News; #Linux 5.17-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161170 #Kernel #freesw #GPL #TuxMachines
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01:04 TR News; #LibreDWG 0.12.5 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161171 #GNU #GPL #sharing #TuxMachines
01:04 TR Bot; LibreDWG 0.12.5 released | Tux Machines
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01:06 TR News; No ARM #Printer Driver? Just Write Your Own Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161172 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:11 TR News; 6 Best #FreeSW #Robotic Process Automation Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161162 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:15 DaemonFC; https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/protest-against-vaccine-mandates-paralyzing-canada-capital-mayor-says-2022-02-06/
01:15 TR Bot; mayor declares state of emergency to deal with trucking blockade | Reuters
01:15 DaemonFC; Yeah, Canada doesn't have any lunatics.....and other short stories.
01:18 TR News; Best Linux Gaming Distros In 2022 For Gamers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161163 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:18 TR Bot; Best Linux Gaming Distros In 2022 For Gamers | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; #LibreOffice 7.3.0 for #Slackware 15.0 (and -current) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161164 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:18 TR Bot; LibreOffice 7.3.0 for Slackware 15.0 (and -current) | Tux Machines
01:18 DaemonFC; https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-considers-lengthening-gap-between-first-2-covid-shots-8-weeks-2022-02-04/
01:18 TR Bot; considers lengthening gap between first 2 COVID shots to 8 weeks | Reuters
01:19 schestowitz-TR; ongoing trials
01:19 schestowitz-TR; "call me whe done"
01:19 DaemonFC; First came the encouragement to take the shots, and then bribes, and then threats....then the threats fell apart.
01:19 activelow; Wrong: "The result is slow, but it's created very quickly"; Right: there is a trade-off between compilation-time/optimization and runtime-performance, this is what i said
01:19 DaemonFC; Now they admit that they have the side effects they denied a few months ago.
01:20 activelow; furthermore, it isn't a distaste for c++, it is a distaste for it where it doesn't belong, inside base system components
01:20 activelow; if every single sentence is quoted incorrectly and misrepresented argument
01:20 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161165 #Linux #TuxMachines
01:20 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:21 activelow; besides the consequences, the aggressive vendor-lock of kernel and gcc had
01:22 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161166 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:22 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
01:22 activelow; such as increase of LoC 10x-100x; increase of compilation times by the same amount, loss of a verified bootstrapping procedure
01:22 activelow; this how Olymp was conquered
01:23 TR News; Status update: Mass packaging, and mass learning - post #2 https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/sok-2022/mass-packaging-mass-learning/ #kde #freesw
01:23 activelow; what was the story with the Titans? stoned and thrown into tartarus?
01:23 TR Bot; Status update: Mass packaging, and mass learning - post #2
01:23 TR News; "You can access and download Svante Schuberts slides about News from the #ODF Toolkit which was supposed to be features during #FOSDEM 2022 but for some reason didnt work out." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/02/06/news-from-the-odf-toolkit/ #documentfoundation #libreoffice
01:23 TR Bot; FOSDEM 2022 - News from the ODF Toolkit (with Notes) by Svante Schubert - The Document Foundation Blog
01:24 activelow; helios carrying his sun-golden crown, little lattler it was thorns on his head; remarkable twist
01:24 DaemonFC; FedEx printing won't accept ODF files.
01:24 schestowitz-TR; one could wait for the next variants... of these vaccines... until they adjust forumla, protocol etc.
01:24 DaemonFC; So I have to save to OOXML or RTF or legacy Microsoft formats, or PDF.
01:25 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: fedex is microsoft mindset
01:25 schestowitz-TR; our customers are usually not willing
01:25 TR News; New release of #sbuildqemu Utilities https://www.kvr.at/posts/new-release-of-sbuild-qemu-utilities/ #gnu #linux #freesw
01:25 TR Bot; New release of sbuild-qemu Utilities | Christian Kastner
01:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The crazy part is OOXML files are usually smaller because LibreOffice uses DEFLATE.
01:26 TR News; "A 40-pin header was added, for programming via a #RaspberryPi in case the front panel programming switches are proving a bit tedious and error prone." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/the-q2-a-pdp8-like-discrete-transistor-computer/
01:26 TR Bot; Q2, A PDP8-Like Discrete Transistor Computer | Hackaday
01:26 DaemonFC; But that's not part of ODF?
01:26 TR News; "Was thrilled that Mozilla finally got their sh!t together when it comes to performance in Firefox, with the initial release of #Firefox Quantum in late 2017." https://fortintam.com/blog/2018-retrospective/
01:26 TR Bot; Year MMXVIII summarized in 4 minutes The Open Sourcerer
01:27 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: comression
01:27 schestowitz-TR; you can compress odf also
01:27 TR News; #Tails vs. Linux #Kodachi : Which Privacy Protection Distro Should You Choose? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161167 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:27 TR Bot; Tails vs. Linux Kodachi: Which Privacy Protection Distro Should You Choose? | Tux Machines
01:27 XRevan86; activelow: Discord was stoned and Tirek was thrown into Tartarus.
01:27 DaemonFC; Microsoft uses DEFLATE and LZ77 pretty much everywhere.
01:27 DaemonFC; They seem to want to avoid patents above all else.
01:28 schestowitz-TR; but it leads to bloat
01:28 XRevan86; "increase of compilation times by the same amount" <- Those are called "optimisations", not of compile-time, of course, of run-time.
01:29 schestowitz-TR; suddenly "apps" that open documents need to come with compression libs in them
01:29 schestowitz-TR; security risk, too
01:29 XRevan86; "loss of a verified bootstrapping procedure" <- Nope.
01:29 TR News; #OpenHardware Dog Treat Dispenser is a Stepping Stone For Behavioral Research https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/open-hardware-dog-treat-dispenser-is-a-stepping-stone-for-behavioral-research/
01:29 TR Bot; Dog Treat Dispenser Is A Stepping Stone For Behavioral Research | Hackaday
01:29 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> suddenly "apps" that open documents need to come with compression libs in them
01:30 XRevan86; No one used TinyCC for GCC bootstrapping, nor needed to.
01:30 DaemonFC; A compression library is the least of your security concerns with Microsoft Office running on Windows.
01:30 DaemonFC; If users won't see it, it's not a priority to Microsoft. Security is not something the user notices, so why not let garbage pile up and never fix it?
01:31 DaemonFC; The visible user experience is only barely a priority.
01:31 DaemonFC; Things users can't see is not a priority.
01:31 TR News; ILOAT has been far too slow in curtailing/stopping Benot Battistellis #EPO abuses and nobody is being held accountable, either Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/ #Techrights #ilo #iloat | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/
gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/
01:31 TR Bot; [Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) | Techrights
01:33 activelow; https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/C_compilers#Can_tcc_build_gcc_4.7.4?_[yes]
01:33 TR Bot; C compilers - bootstrapping
01:33 TR News; The #EPO s #immunity has been exploited by #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos , albeit not without much help from the EPOs Administrative Council Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/
01:33 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land | Techrights
01:35 activelow; nonetheless, i do not feel confident about this, because it is tcc -> gcc-4.x -> gcc-5/6/7/8...; instead of tcc -> gcc-5/...
01:36 activelow; that's a fact, and there is no way back, almost one decade of hundreds of thousands of man-hours
01:36 XRevan86; activelow: What is used to compile the initial TinyCC?
01:36 activelow; i used gcc-4.x
01:37 TR News; #UAE in the monopolists' hegemony, now celebrated by convicted corrupt firm #MarksClerk , which is inciting public officials to break the law by lying to them https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1155812/uae-joins-madrid-protocol-international-trade-mark-system
01:37 TR Bot; UAE Joins Madrid Protocol International Trade Mark System - Intellectual Property - UK
01:37 activelow; however tcc isn't as picky, and it compile itself too, beginning from where it was 1KB of source-code for the compiler/linker/as/ar in a single binary
01:37 activelow; *can
01:38 XRevan86; activelow: Just use that *instead* of TinyCC to compile a newer version?
01:38 XRevan86; Remove the extra step.
01:38 TR News; Misframing the debate or situation by interjecting meaningless and misleading terms such as "Hey Hi" https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/should-ai-systems-be-eligible-for-7230111/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/
01:38 TR Bot; AI Systems Be Eligible For Patents? | Brooks Kushman P.C. - JDSupra
01:38 TR Bot; A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | Techrights
01:39 activelow; i'll not follow along argument down to asm and hardware opcodes for now; what i concluded down in the realm of hardware options was some z80/gigatron-ttl/16bit unix, if at all
01:40 TR News; #MaxWalters again pushing #buzzwords and nonsense; the quality of so-called 'journalism' has fallen so sharply over the past 2 decade https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wkk3m2knv9nb/metaverse-could-spark-csuite-ip-investment-say-brands
01:40 TR Bot; Metaverse could spark C-suite IP investment, say brands | Managing Intellectual Property
01:41 activelow; to keep some linux system at least, this was the idea, before departing where i belonged
01:41 activelow; *to
01:42 TR News; #femmeashing as there are no such awards for non-women; the #extortion and #blackmail 'industry' is looking to 'soften' its bad image by exploiting women's causes. Don't fall for it. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wd88y0mzw5xl/inaugural-women-in-business-law-global-awards
01:42 TR Bot; Inaugural Women in Business Law Global Awards | Managing Intellectual Property
01:43 XRevan86; No idea what that means.
01:43 activelow; it means, i'll quit.
01:44 TR News; The convicted corrupt firm #MarksClerk , lecturing us about law, even in relation to #EPO (whose #corruption it actively supports), is quite a howler https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156004/parties39-duty-to-keep-the-patents-court-informed-about-epo-proceedings see https://techrights.org/2019/01/22/buzzwords-for-junk-patents/
01:44 TR Bot; Parties' Duty To Keep The Patents Court Informed About EPO Proceedings - Intellectual Property - UK
01:45 TR Bot; Software Patents Are a Dying Breed, So Marks & Clerk and Other Legal Monoliths Promote the EPOs Buzzwords (Loopholes) | Techrights
01:45 XRevan86; activelow: Whatever floats your boat.
01:46 TR News; #HerbertSmithFreehills wants you to think #UPC exists even though it does not, it's moreover illegal and will be challenged (lawyers lying to people does harm to the profession) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1153680/upc-costs-and-fees see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/protocol-to-the-agreement-on-unified-patent-court-on-provisional-application-video/
01:46 TR Bot; UPC: Costs And Fees - Intellectual Property - European Union
01:46 TR Bot; Unified Patent Court (UPC) Leak Shows That Team UPC and the EPOs Management Are Knowingly Breaking the Law | Techrights
01:48 TR News; This 'article' (marketing spam of #litigation firm) did not age well because #UPC is dead https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152892/upc-jurisdiction-and-optout see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
01:48 TR Bot; UPC: Jurisdiction And "Opt-out" - Intellectual Property - European Union
01:48 TR Bot; The UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court | Techrights
01:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.83
01:49 TR News; #EPO is a Mafia that knows nothing about grace https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1147914/epo-launches-consultation-on-grace-periods see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
01:49 TR Bot; EPO Launches Consultation On Grace Periods - Intellectual Property - UK
01:49 TR Bot; G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
01:50 activelow; that's another show-stopper with tcc: supported architectures, one remaining which can be considered free/open respecting freedom isn't supported (no blaming intended)
01:50 TR News; This is just incredible lying; there's no UPC, so these lawyers are basically looking to sell something that does not exist! https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152906/how-to-get-a-unitary-patent- see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
01:50 TR Bot; How To Get A Unitary Patent - Intellectual Property - European Union
01:50 activelow; another deal, to maintain the linux distro, this required three compilers already: tcc, gcc-4.x, gcc-6.x
01:50 activelow; instead of one
01:50 XRevan86; activelow: I wasn't even going to mention that, that is to be expected.
01:51 XRevan86; Even ARM support is surprising.
01:51 TR News; Media taken over by #patent fanatics and profiteers who disguise fake #patents like #softwarepatents using buzzwords like "Hey Hi" "Medical Technology (MedTech)" https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152852/as-ai-powers-more-and-more-medical-technology-don39t-overlook-patenting see http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/software-as-a-medical-device-samd-like-medtech-at-the-epo-just-another-dodge-for-illegitimate-software-patents/
01:51 TR Bot; As AI Powers More And More Medical Technology Don't Overlook Patenting - Intellectual Property - UK
01:51 TR Bot; Software as a Medical Device (SaMD) Like MedTech at the EPO Just Another Dodge for Illegitimate Software Patents | Techrights
01:53 MinceR; 07 022759 < DaemonFC> They seem to want to avoid patents above all else.
01:53 MinceR; patents they do not own, that is
01:53 MinceR; they're quite keen on forcing their own patents everywhere
01:53 DaemonFC; Yeah.
01:53 activelow; if i had not wiped opengl, most drivers required a fourth compiler for mesa/gallium: llvm
01:54 TR News; They clearly seem to be unaware of the #EPO crisis and its effect on #patent legitimacy https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tut-fitness-group-wins-four-new-patents-throughout-europe-301468384.html #tutfitness should see http://techrights.org/2021/12/28/epo-wont-invest-in-staff-and-in-quality/
01:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tut-fitness-group-wins-four-new-patents-throughout-europe-301468384.html
01:54 TR Bot; TUT Fitness Group Wins Four New Patents Throughout Europe
01:54 TR Bot; EPO Staff Representation: We Believe That the EPO Should Invest in Staff and in Quality (Not Cuts and Worse) | Techrights
01:54 XRevan86; Real distributions have two compilers: GCC and LLVM based.
01:54 schestowitz-TR; "Real"?
01:54 MinceR; what about complex distributions?
01:54 schestowitz-TR; RealPlayer has a distro?
01:55 XRevan86; schestowitz: Those that are not on a holy crusade against C++ that is.
01:55 activelow; it was only a tiny niche i had required, which had not offended any commercial interests of anyone i might add
01:56 XRevan86; Still don't understand why TinyCC built by GCC needs to compile GCC. Just build GCC with GCC?
01:56 activelow; GCC isn't trustworthy in this scenario
01:57 AdmFubar; https://archive.org/details/199405-decusnew-orleans/1994050DECUSNewOrleansLinuxImplementationIssuesInLinux.ogg
01:57 TR Bot; The lost talks from Linus Torvalds at DECUS'94 : John Hall : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
01:57 activelow; to verify the bootstrapping this required disassembly of dozens of Megs of binary gibberish
01:57 activelow; tcc is a counter-measure against the "trust-attack", although the entire supply chain was attacked and subverted at many other places alike
01:58 TR News; Kernel prepatch 5.17-rc3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161170#comment-32747
01:58 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc3 | Tux Machines
01:58 XRevan86; It sucks to live in a world without Reproducible Builds.
01:58 activelow; and this is how much i trust any of it, FSF/GCC/GNU/Linux: 0
01:59 activelow; reproducible builds is yet another frontline; which isn't sufficiently coped with
01:59 activelow; to at least, compiling identical sources twice yields the exact same binary, as a bare minimum of verification if anything was hidden somewhere
02:01 TR News; NVIDIA Adds GeForce RTX 2050, MX570 & MX550 Laptop GPU Support To Linux Through Latest Drivers https://wccftech.com/nvidia-linux-drive-geforce-rtx-2050-mx570-mx550-gpu-support/ #wccftech | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
02:01 TR Bot; NVIDIA Adds GeForce RTX 2050, MX570 & MX550 Laptop GPU Support To Linux Through Latest Drivers
02:01 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
02:02 TR News; #microsoft now restricts access to "the top 100 packages." There should have been antitrust action a long, long time ago https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/02/06/episode-309-the-bright-future-of-open-source-secuirty/
02:02 TR Bot; Episode 309 The bright future of open source secuirty Open Source Security
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02:03 TR News; #microsoft as #pentagon manifestation, an agent of #imperialism http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
02:03 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
02:04 activelow; $ man gcc; # awesome, see how much support was implemented for proprietary extensions in hardware... supporting all of it with GPL smeared onto
02:04 TR News; Mass #surveillance based on false pretences. APPROVED! By the state... https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/06/credit-monitoring-services-are-mostly-a-scam/
02:04 TR Bot; Credit Monitoring services are mostly a scam. BaronHK's Rants
02:05 TR News; #JWM #documentation now builtin https://bkhome.org/news/202202/jwm-documentation-now-builtin.html #gnu #linux
02:05 TR Bot; JWM documentation now builtin
02:05 TR News; #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161175 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:05 TR Bot; OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 released | Tux Machines
02:05 XRevan86; Good compilers don't descend themselves to the bare metal.
02:07 TR News; [Older] More obstacles against removal of #fakepatents in the US https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/shots-fired-challenger-must-have-1566982/ #patents #uspto #ptab
02:07 TR Bot; Fired: Challenger Must Have Requisite Standing Before Appealing Unfavorable IPR Decisions | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
02:09 XRevan86; activelow: Get yourself a Commodore 64 and find peace already.
02:10 XRevan86; Don't know how to get to IRC from it, but ye'll figure it out maybe.
02:10 activelow; XRevan86: well, most often deploying a mos6502 to FPGA requires this, a gigantic proprietary monstrosity from Xilinx or Altera
02:10 TR News; No, UPC is not legal and these loaded headlines are their fake news lobbying strategy https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2022/02/upc-is-it-finally-here?cc_lang=en see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
02:10 TR Bot; UPC: Is it finally here?
02:11 TR Bot; Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights
02:11 activelow; re-visit symbiflow/yosys ? c++, arduino-ido: no, thank you.,
02:13 activelow; XRevan86: last time i checked, i couldn't at least some 100% clean VT100 terminal i/o with VGA and PS/2
02:13 activelow; some chose proprietary hardware, some chose binary-blobbed firmware/software, or both
02:14 activelow; but hey, nowadays mainframe-scale processing power is available, to attach some raspi to terminate vt100, straight into skynet via bluetooth and VC4 firmware inside
02:14 activelow; maybe, i'll grab my cheapo digital scope... and had not told the story about this one yet
02:16 TR News; #EPO is not for Europe but for multinationals and oligarchs; PCT a reminder of this https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156502/pct-direct-procedure-opportunity-to-comment-on-international-application see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO
02:16 TR Bot; PCT Direct Procedure - Opportunity To Comment On International Application - Intellectual Property - UK
02:16 TR Bot; EPO - Techrights
02:18 TR News; #Tillis has long been the mole or the "Manchin" of #patent and #copyright fanatics, in effect helping them ram policies that harm the public; but media in the pockets of those same fanatics won't describe him as such https://www.law360.com/publicpolicy/articles/1460280/tillis-floats-idea-to-consolidate-uspto-copyright-office
02:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/publicpolicy/articles/1460280/tillis-floats-idea-to-consolidate-uspto-copyright-office
02:18 TR Bot; Floats Idea To Consolidate USPTO, Copyright Office - Law360
02:21 TR News; This writer has no clue what he's writing about; he thinks #trademarks are obtained via "European #patent office" https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-01-the-dark-pictures-developer-trademarks-five-future-titles http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO
02:21 TR Bot; Dark Pictures developer trademarks five future titles Eurogamer.net
02:21 TR Bot; EUIPO - Techrights
02:23 TR News; #HGFLtd promoting the fiction of "Intellectual Property" [sic]; companies that lack actual products cannot compensate with supposed exclusivity, but lawyers stand to benefit from the myths (selling false dreams) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1147332/tarilian-laser-technologies-a-case-study-in-due-diligence
↺ https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1147332/tarilian-laser-technologies-a-case-study-in-due-diligence
02:23 TR Bot; Tarilian Laser Technologies A Case Study In Due Diligence - Intellectual Property - UK
02:24 MinceR; 07 025813 < XRevan86> It sucks to live in a world without Reproducible Builds.
02:24 MinceR; how do those help against Trusting Trust attacks?
02:28 TR News; Peddling this bogus, phony, misleading narrative that "parent #patent was attacked on various grounds" is inversion of roles; the #patents themselves are the attacks; those who challenge them act in self defence; #FrantzeskaPapadopoulou is either deeply brainwashed/indoctrinated or dishonest http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/neurim-v-mylan-illiad-was-shorter.html
02:28 TR Bot; Neurim v. Mylan-- the Illiad was shorter - The IPKat
02:30 TR News; The so-called 'media' ain't talking about it, but #Europe already has its share of malicious, aggressive #patenttrolls like #Sisvel http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/sisvel-suing-ford-motor-company-over.html https://techrights.org/2010/03/08/using-the-sisvel-army/ http://techrights.org/2018/04/09/sisvel-europe/
02:30 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Sisvel suing Ford Motor Company over two 4G standard-essential patents in Munich; Ford's answer to Delaware complaint due tomorrow
02:30 TR Bot; Apple the Bully Goes Hunting for Patent Violators With the Sisvel Army | Techrights
02:30 TR Bot; The Sisvelisation of Europe, With or Without the Unified Patent Court (UPC) | Techrights
02:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Well, I made one change away from animal products.
02:32 DaemonFC; I found that oat milk is quite good and with less saturated fats, and it's not terrible for the environment like cow's milk.
02:32 DaemonFC; I discovered that by accident because Mandy is lactose intolerant and if I feed him anything with a lot of dairy, I'm in trouble later.
02:32 TR News; #DennisCrouch celebrates #uspto resorting to #javascript chaos that harms disabled people and laughs at #accessibility https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/patent-public-search.html it's not even a Web page!!! It's boated garbage. https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/
02:32 TR Bot; Patent Public Search Tool | Patently-O
02:32 TR Bot; Patent Public Search | USPTO
02:33 DaemonFC; For a while, I was buying lactose free milk, but then I realized oat milk was better tasting and had less sugar and saturated fats, and didn't ruin my coffee.
02:33 DaemonFC; For some reason, you're just replacing one problem with another with lactose free milk.
02:34 DaemonFC; It tastes all wrong. It's also disturbingly sweet, and not like sugar sweet either. Like you don't know what it's got in it.
02:36 TR News; In spite of #EPO #corruption and crimes, LSE uses "European #Patent Office" as a source, citing #greenwashing fluff designed to distract from the crimes https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2022/02/02/multinationals-and-renewable-energy-boosting-innovation-through-foreign-direct-investments/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
02:36 TR Bot; Multinationals and renewable energy: boosting innovation through foreign direct investments | LSE Business Review
02:36 TR Bot; The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights
02:37 TR News; "And that's what Soule is. He is an unindicted criminal. #Microsoft was already overflowing with those. They buy companies that bring in yet more." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060222.html#tFeb%2006%2021:26:02
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-060222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-060222.txt
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
02:39 TR News; "It should be no surprise to readers of Patently-O that many are unhappy with the Supreme Courts jurisprudence regarding patent eligibility under Section 101 of the Patent Act," it says. Because they're #patent #litigation profiteers, not scientists. This is #lobbying , funded by the litigation fanatics. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/assessing-responses-eligibility.html
02:39 TR Bot; Guest Post: Assessing Responses to the PTO's 2021 Patent Eligibliity Study
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
02:40 AdmFubar; https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/02/04/1443219/zuckerberg-tells-staff-to-focus-on-video-products-as-metas-stock-plunges
02:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/02/04/1443219/zuckerberg-tells-staff-to-focus-on-video-products-as-metas-stock-plunges
02:40 TR Bot; Zuckerberg Tells Staff To Focus on Video Products as Meta's Stock Plunges - Slashdot
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-060222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-060222.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
02:41 TR News; #Hungary Amends #Patent Act https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4580 but the #corruption at #HIPO will prevail http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/
02:41 TR Bot; Hungary Amends Patent Act | PETOEVI
02:41 TR Bot; Cannot Cast a Ballot for Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? | Techrights
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:44 TR News; #lexology must be doing very badly if it's using #paywalls and ALSO #outsourcing to #microsoft in the process. Lexology probably won't even exist anymore... in 5-10 years.
02:48 TR News; Corrupt and (recently very) disgraced #patent #litigation firm uses buzzwords like "Hey Hi" to mislead people and push #patent #law into sheer fantasy world https://www.carpmaels.com/patenting-ai-the-nature-of-inventorship-and-the-mechanics-of-ownership/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/
02:48 TR Bot; AI: the nature of inventorship and the mechanics of ownership - Carpmaels & Ransford - Law Firm
02:48 TR Bot; [Meme] Patents for Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) | Techrights
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02:51 AdmFubar; https://softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/
02:51 TR Bot; GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center
02:52 schestowitz; AdmFubar: video..
02:52 schestowitz; wait.. that's...
02:52 schestowitz; like an occupied and crowded space already
02:52 schestowitz; tiktok, gulagtube etc.
02:52 AdmFubar; it was from a while back
02:53 schestowitz; FB will die one day
02:53 schestowitz; with all its "contenty"
02:53 schestowitz; "OMG!! all ma mamas and papas and mates will die!!!"
02:53 schestowitz; or maybe FB never defined who your "friends" are;-)
02:53 AdmFubar; one day it will become myspace like
02:53 schestowitz; yeah
02:54 schestowitz; or friendster
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02:56 TR News; #Ubuntu mirrors https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-mirrors#more-13006 #gnu #linux
02:56 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-mirrors#more-13006 )
02:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxconfig.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-mirrors#more-13006
02:59 AdmFubar; https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
02:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
02:59 TR Bot; More than 1,000 malware packages found in NPM repository
02:59 TR News; #WiFi is another sort of #patent #cartel and writers sponsored by this cartel say "patent [sic] owners spy monetisation [sic] opportunities" https://www.iam-media.com/frand/huawei-inks-its-first-wi-fi-6-patent-licence-deal-overseas-implementer see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM
02:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frand/huawei-inks-its-first-wi-fi-6-patent-licence-deal-overseas-implementer
02:59 TR Bot; IAM - Huawei inks its first Wi-Fi 6 patent licence with an overseas implementer
02:59 TR Bot; IAM - Techrights
03:01 TR News; "holding all but one of the challenged claims unpatentable in IPR2019-00329." #uspto #patents #fakepatents https://www.natlawreview.com/article/whole-lot-cobble-ty-gook-after-wertheim
03:01 TR Bot; PTAB Affirmed in Indivior UK v. Dr. Reddy's Patent Case
03:01 AdmFubar; https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28308
03:01 TR Bot; Power over Ethernet and Thermal Imaging
03:02 AdmFubar; https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
03:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
03:02 TR Bot; NSO Group Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks
03:03 TR News; [Older] It is going to get a lot easier to lose your #patents ; digital systems rot a lot faster than paper https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/pto-will-transition-to-electronic-9291287/ #patent #uspto
03:03 TR Bot; Will Transition to Electronic Issuance of Patents and Trademarks | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
03:04 AdmFubar; https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/02/how-phishers-are-slinking-their-links-into-linkedin/
03:04 TR Bot; How Phishers Are Slinking Their Links Into LinkedIn Krebs on Security
03:06 TR News; The #greenwashing oxymoron of "green plastics" [oil], citing the corrupt #EPO with its PR strategy, looking to distract from the EPO's crimes https://www.appleyardlees.com/progress-and-promise-for-green-plastics/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
03:06 TR Bot; Progress and promise for green plastics - Appleyard Lees
03:06 TR Bot; The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights
03:07 AdmFubar; https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/01/scary-fraud-ensues-when-id-theft-usury-collide/
03:07 TR Bot; Scary Fraud Ensues When ID Theft & Usury Collide Krebs on Security
03:08 TR News; "In the recent decision T 1989/18 one of the Boards of Appeal of the European #Patent Office ( #EPO )..." These tribunals are rigged. https://www.potterclarkson.com/insights/description-amendments-will-the-epo-change-its-examination-practice/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
03:08 TR Bot; Will the EPO Change its Examination Practice? | Potter Clarkson
03:08 TR Bot; G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
03:08 AdmFubar; I wonder how much norton makes.... https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/01/500m-avira-antivirus-users-introduced-to-cryptomining/
03:08 TR Bot; 500M Avira Antivirus Users Introduced to Cryptomining Krebs on Security
03:10 TR News; "Supreme Court held that such deception and failure to provide material information were not consistent with fair competition in the marketplace, since #Sanof is actions significantly impacted how Sanofis competitors brought generic alternatives to market. As such, the Supreme Court held Sanofi liable under claims of unjust enrichment." https://www.arnon.co.il/en/content/competition-law-aspects-patent-licensing-enforcement-isra
03:10 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.arnon.co.il/en/content/competition-law-aspects-patent-licensing-enforcement-isra )
03:10 activelow; AdmFubar: the historical speeches from torvalds, are noteworthy, however those apply to a kernel which doesn't exist anymore
03:11 activelow; or, better to say, recent releases do not follow the intended design principles of it anymore
03:11 MinceR; Torvalds doesn't seem to be in control anymore
03:12 TR News; The utter lunacy of #patents on life and nature does not end; these #patent extremists won't rest until everything -- including breathing air -- gets monopolised, with #lawsuits they stand to profit from https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/cvc-files-responsive-preliminary-motion-no-1-for-priority-benefit.html
03:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/cvc-files-responsive-preliminary-motion-no-1-for-priority-benefit.html
03:12 TR Bot; Patent Docs: CVC Files Responsive Preliminary Motion No. 1 for Priority Benefit
03:12 activelow; a cornerstone of proof would be to ask torvalds if decent tcc support was feasible, to "keep it simple" as possible
03:12 TR News; Florian Mller: #Ericsson seeking preliminary injunction against #Apple distributor in Brazil, filed second case in #Belgium ; Apple wants December trial in Texas, now challenging 10 Ericsson patents http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/ericsson-seeking-preliminary-injunction.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
03:12 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Ericsson seeking preliminary injunction against Apple distributor in Brazil, filed second case in Belgium; Apple wants December trial in Texas, now challenging 10 Ericsson patents
03:12 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
03:13 activelow; and the gcc fellows could be asked to implement SH2 support for tcc, and missing features to compile linux kernel; i do not claim any authority with those ideas
03:13 TR News; #SukanyaSarkar at #managingip once again legitimising #scams https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wkywf642s3y6/nfts-and-new-tech-to-shake-up-domain-disputes-in-2022 #nft #scam
03:13 TR Bot; NFTs and new tech to shake up domain disputes in 2022 | Managing Intellectual Property
03:14 activelow; just some random thoughts; 30 years later
03:14 activelow; to "keep it simple"
03:18 TR News; They're going for #monopolies on plants; these villanelles #lawyers want you to think humans "invented" and "own" nature https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156532/introduction-to-supplementary-protection-certificates-for-plant-protection-products see http://techrights.org/2019/03/08/patents-on-life-in-europe/
03:18 TR Bot; Introduction To Supplementary Protection Certificates For Plant Protection Products - Intellectual Property - UK
03:18 TR Bot; The Tide Has Turned Against Patents on Life in Europe | Techrights
03:19 AdmFubar; https://restofworld.org/2022/documents-reputation-laundering-firm-eliminalia/
03:19 TR Bot; Exposed documents reveal how the powerful clean up their digital past using a reputation laundering firm - Rest of World
03:19 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 125600 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39195 Active: active (running) since Tue 2022-01-18 02:25:45 GMT; 2 weeks 6 days ago
03:20 TR News; A timely reminder that big pharmaceutical #monopolies not only write the #law but also pass the law to protect themselves using "the law"; they even make up new concepts and terms like "SPCs", quickly exacerbating #inequality by their own design https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156528/supplementary-protection-certificates-for-medicinal-products
03:20 TR Bot; Supplementary Protection Certificates For Medicinal Products - Intellectual Property - UK
03:21 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 27 GB TotalOut: 26 GB
03:21 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:22 TR News; "Amendments to the Serbian #Law on #Patents entered into force on December 23, 2021 introducing important changes relating to Supplementary Protection Certificates (SPCs) and utility models." Bending over to monopolies that rip off ill people. https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4582 #Serbia #Patent
03:22 TR Bot; Serbia Amends Patent Law | PETOEVI
03:24 TR News; The EPO's #greenwashing , designed to glorify #monopolies and distract from the EPO's crimes, keeps getting cited by #patent profiteers and fanatics https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/battery-innovation-enhances-ev-9372196/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
03:24 TR Bot; Innovation Enhances EV Technology, Generates Worldwide Patent Boom | McGlinchey Stafford - JDSupra
03:26 TR News; It does not need that. The #litigation firms (like this liar) want any startup to be misled about a system designed to enrich those who are already rich and rip off the rest https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156500/why-does-my-startup-need-patents see http://techrights.org/2018/06/27/antibodies-and-spc/ #jakemp
03:26 TR Bot; Why Does My Start-Up Need Patents? - Intellectual Property - UK
03:26 TR Bot; J A Kemp Pushing the Boundaries of Patent Scope in Europe With Antibodies and SPCs | Techrights
03:27 TR News; Review: PlagueOS R3 and Ultramarine Linux 35 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161176 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
03:27 TR Bot; Review: PlagueOS R3 and Ultramarine Linux 35 | Tux Machines
03:29 TR News; Another clueless writer who thinks #EPO does #trademarks https://sirusgaming.com/the-dark-pictures-series-five-more-titles-trademarked/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO and http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO
03:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: sirusgaming.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sirusgaming.com/the-dark-pictures-series-five-more-titles-trademarked/
03:29 TR Bot; The Dark Pictures Series Developer Trademarks Five More Games
03:29 TR Bot; EPO - Techrights
03:29 TR Bot; EUIPO - Techrights
03:30 IPFS; QmQdk83ourWknf8WYXr4Z6LnuaLWYmqhpidR9Crga89wZn
03:30 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:31 TR News; #Patent #litigation -funded #DennisCrouch still looking to defend defunct #patents https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/federal-circuit-digits.html http://techrights.org/2017/08/30/attacks-on-ptab-intensify/
03:31 TR Bot; Did you get those digits?
03:31 TR Bot; Dennis Crouch, Joined by Gene Quinn (Watchtroll), Still Attacking PTAB to Protect Patent Trolls and Software Patents | Techrights
03:37 TR News; Making Something Gorgeous From Framing Lumber | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/making-something-gorgeous-from-framing-lumber/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
03:37 TR Bot; Something Gorgeous From Framing Lumber | Hackaday
03:39 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-stock-price
03:39 TR Bot; stock plummets: What it means for antitrust - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
03:54 activelow; gn
03:57 MinceR; o/
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05:53 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/
05:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/
05:54 TR Bot; Google is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers - gHacks Tech News
05:54 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
05:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
05:54 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge may be running on your Windows PCs, even if you don't use the browser - gHacks Tech News
06:11 DaemonFC; https://www.extremetech.com/internet/331318-microsoft-reportedly-scrapping-its-hololens-3-project
06:11 TR Bot; Reportedly Scrapping Its HoloLens 3 Project - ExtremeTech
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06:30 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/slxidy/if_you_do_something_like_this_you_are_diseased/
06:30 TR Bot; If you do something like this, you are diseased. : LateStageCapitalism
06:30 DaemonFC; "Could you please say 'Thank you for keeping me employed.' to the Ring Doorbell? Thank you."
06:30 DaemonFC; What the fuck is wrong with people?
06:31 DaemonFC; Mom keeps buying junk off of Amazon and then getting surprised that it breaks down months later and she has to carry it to the curb.
06:33 DaemonFC; Most of it doesn't last long before it breaks down.
06:33 DaemonFC; And Amazon has gotten really really mean about refunds.
06:34 DaemonFC; Like, you might get one eventually, but not without more work than it's worth.
06:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Now mom's latest kick is people on Youtube claiming that eating nothing besides meat cures everything.
06:36 DaemonFC; Including bipolar disorder.
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08:33 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, February 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:33 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:33 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:33 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
08:33 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 06, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/irc-log-060222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/irc-log-060222/
08:33 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 06, 2022 | Techrights
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08:52 TR News; "There's just something off about Ubuntu these days, this week we put it all together." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147582/much-ado-about-ubuntu-linux-unplugged-444/
08:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147582/much-ado-about-ubuntu-linux-unplugged-444/
08:52 TR Bot; Much Ado About Ubuntu | LINUX Unplugged 444 | Jupiter Broadcasting
08:53 TR News; #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 6th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161177 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:53 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 6th, 2022 | Tux Machines
08:57 TR News; NEWS #MakeUseOf 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in GNU (and Linux) https://www.makeuseof.com/cut-command-examples-linux/
08:57 TR Bot; 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in Linux
08:58 TR News; NEWS #Axios #Hardware The next microchip crisis will be bigger https://www.axios.com/microchip-crisis-shortage-taiwan-tsmc-534f5cbb-e49b-4e16-8f9a-6229c08e1779.html
08:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: axios.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/microchip-crisis-shortage-taiwan-tsmc-534f5cbb-e49b-4e16-8f9a-6229c08e1779.html
08:58 TR Bot; next microchip crisis will be bigger - Axios
08:59 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware [Crackers] hit Fortune 500 service provider, data of over 500k people leaked https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/hackers-hit-fortune-500-service-provider-data-of-over-500k-people-leaked/89395744
08:59 TR Bot; cyber security: Hackers hit Fortune 500 service provider, data of over 500k people leaked, CIO News, ET CIO
08:59 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NetMediaEurope #ProprietarySoftware European Oil And Port Facilities Suffer Cyberattacks https://www.silicon.co.uk/security/security-management/european-oil-and-port-facilities-suffer-cyberattacks-440377
08:59 TR Bot; European Oil And Port Facilities Suffer Cyberattacks | Silicon UK Tech News
08:59 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #EuroNews #ProprietarySoftware Oil terminals disrupted after European ports hit by cyberattack Access to the comments https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/03/oil-terminals-disrupted-after-european-ports-hit-by-cyberattack
08:59 TR Bot; terminals disrupted after European ports hit by cyberattack | Euronews
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09:02 TR News; #gulag is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/ #Surveillance #Privacy
09:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/
09:03 TR Bot; Google is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers - gHacks Tech News
09:03 TR News; NEWS #PT #Surveillance #Privacy No ordinary IT department spy agencies seek tech strategy chief https://www.publictechnology.net/articles/news/no-ordinary-it-department--spy-agencies-seek-tech-strategy-chief
09:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: publictechnology.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.publictechnology.net/articles/news/no-ordinary-it-department--spy-agencies-seek-tech-strategy-chief
09:03 TR Bot; ordinary IT department spy agencies seek tech strategy chief | PublicTechnology.net
09:03 TR News; NEWS #ITWire #Surveillance #Privacy Meta threatens to pull Facebook and #Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads https://itwire.com/listed-tech/meta-threatens-to-pull-facebook-and-instagram-from-europe-if-it-can-t-target-ads.html go away! Good riddance!!!
09:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/listed-tech/meta-threatens-to-pull-facebook-and-instagram-from-europe-if-it-can-t-target-ads.html
09:03 TR Bot; - Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads
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09:07 TR News; #Facebook stock plummets: What it means for #antitrust https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-stock-price
09:07 TR Bot; stock plummets: What it means for antitrust - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
09:08 TR News; #microsoft #windows is perpetually #malware https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
09:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
09:08 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge may be running on your Windows PCs, even if you don't use the browser - gHacks Tech News
09:10 TR News; #NSOGroup Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
09:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
09:10 TR Bot; NSO Group Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks
09:11 TR News; #Microsoft serves #malware , and not just to #Windows https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
09:11 TR Bot; More than 1,000 malware packages found in NPM repository
09:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
09:18 TR News; NEWS #YLE #Energy #Finland unveils plan for electric aircraft routes across #Lapland region https://yle.fi/news/3-12302109 but where does the power come from? You must charge somehow...
09:18 TR Bot; Finland unveils plan for electric aircraft routes across Lapland region | News | Yle Uutiset
09:19 TR News; NEWS #JacobinMag #Energy New Study: #Gas and #Oil Drilling Doesnt Create Very Many Jobs https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/api-fracking-employment-ban-fossil-fuels-climate/
09:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jacobinmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/api-fracking-employment-ban-fossil-fuels-climate/
09:19 TR Bot; New Study: Gas and Oil Drilling Doesnt Create Very Many Jobs
09:19 TR News; NEWS #Zimbabwe #Energy #Botswana passes [cryptocurrency] bill, unlike #Zimbabwe they want to stop the scams https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/02/botswana-passes-crypto-bill-unlike-zim-they-want-to-stop-the-scams/
09:19 TR Bot; Botswana passes crypto bill, unlike Zim they want to stop the scams - Techzim
09:19 TR News; NEWS #Spiegel #Energy #ElSalvador Has Ambitious Plans for Cryptocurrency https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-bitcoin-nation-el-salvador-has-ambitious-plans-for-cryptocurrency-a-ca5c747d-7e20-4c88-a3f4-52d11c31ea35
09:19 TR Bot; The Bitcoin Nation: El Salvador Has Ambitious Plans for Cryptocurrency - DER SPIEGEL
09:19 TR News; NEWS #NRDC #Energy [Cryptocurrency] Has a #Climate Problem https://www.nrdc.org/stories/crypto-has-climate-problem
09:19 TR Bot; Crypto Has a Climate Problem | NRDC
09:23 TR News; NEWS #TheEconomist #Politics Metamorphosis: #Facebook and big-tech competition https://www.economist.com/business/2022/02/04/metamorphosis-facebook-and-big-tech-competition?itm_source=parsely-api do not say "big-tech" http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/
09:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/2022/02/04/metamorphosis-facebook-and-big-tech-competition?itm_source=parsely-api
09:23 TR Bot; Facebook and big-tech competition | The Economist
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09:32 TR News; #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, PipeWire by Default, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161178 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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09:38 TR News; NEWS #JacobinMag #Monopolies #Microsoft s #Activision Blizzard Acquisition Wont Save the Games Industry https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/pc-xbox-labor-sexual-harassment-unionization-exploitation/
09:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jacobinmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/pc-xbox-labor-sexual-harassment-unionization-exploitation/
09:49 TR News; " #Spotify CEO Daniel Ek addressed staff in a late night memo addressing Joe Rogans use of the n-word and the mysterious removal of 70 podcast episodes earlier this week." https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/6/22921203/spotify-joe-rogan-episode-removal-internal-memo #DRM
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09:49 TR News; NEWS #Variety #DRM #Spotify CEO Apologizes to Staff Over #JoeRogan N-Word Controversy https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-ceo-apologizes-joe-rogan-n-word-1235173331/
09:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-ceo-apologizes-joe-rogan-n-word-1235173331/
09:50 TR News; NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DRM #Spotify CEO Addresses Joe Rogans N-Word Use, Doubles Down on Keeping Podcaster on Platform https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/spotify-joe-rogan-daniel-ek-1235087928/
09:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/spotify-joe-rogan-daniel-ek-1235087928/
09:50 TR News; NEWS #TheEconomist #streaming #DRM Disney, Netflix, Apple: is anyone winning the streaming wars? https://www.economist.com/business/disney-netflix-apple-is-anyone-winning-the-streaming-wars/21807591
09:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/disney-netflix-apple-is-anyone-winning-the-streaming-wars/21807591
09:51 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #filesharing Icon #ETTV Officially Shuts Down Due to a Lack of Funds https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-icon-ettv-officially-shuts-down-due-to-a-lack-of-funds-220206/
09:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-icon-ettv-officially-shuts-down-due-to-a-lack-of-funds-220206/
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10:08 TR News; #Patent #extortion agenda in #EU and based on their support of #EPO #corruption it's clear whose side they will take https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlx6wjsf4n7c/eu-set-to-put-spotlight-on-essentiality-in-new-sep-policy
10:08 TR News; PTAB Procedural Decisions Report: Non-Merits Based Decisions Rise, Denials Fall " Unified Patents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/ptab-procedural-decisions-report #unifiedpatents #uspto #ptab #fakepatents #swpats
10:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/ptab-procedural-decisions-report
10:10 TR News; #Patent Litigation 2022 in #Turkey https://gun.av.tr/insights/guides/patent-litigation-2022-in-turkey looking to profit by attracting #patentTrolls and such to Turkey http://techrights.org/2021/10/31/habip-asan-turkpatent/ #turkpatent
10:12 TR News; #Tillis has long been the mole or the "Manchin" of #patent and #copyright fanatics, in effect helping them ram policies that harm the public; but media in the pockets of those same fanatics won't describe him as such https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/sen-tillis-asks-acus-to-conduct-study-on-creation-of-us-ip-office.html
10:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/sen-tillis-asks-acus-to-conduct-study-on-creation-of-us-ip-office.html
10:15 TR News; Hard to believe this is still going; the #patent fanatics (profiteers) want to own or monopolise life itself through #patents and "gene editing" https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/broad-files-substantive-preliminary-motion-no-1-to-substitute-the-count.html #crispr
10:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/broad-files-substantive-preliminary-motion-no-1-to-substitute-the-count.html
10:16 TR News; Florian Mller: #Apple opposes #Ericsson motion to amend #FRAND complaint in #kangaroocourt of Texas, says its own FRAND case was first properly filed one http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/apple-opposes-ericsson-motion-to-amend.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
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10:18 TR News; For the sake of money the #USPTO runs in auto-pilot, not even checking with the public is something is novel; just grant, grant, grant... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/third-party-submissions-2.html
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10:18 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161179 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:20 TR News; #UAE in the monopolists' hegemony, now celebrated by a firm which is inciting public officials to break the law by lying to them https://gowlingwlg.com/en/insights-resources/articles/2022/new-uae-patent-law-what-do-you-need-to-know/ #fakenews firm, #gowlingwlg
10:22 TR News; Florian Mller: EPICSSON: #Apple makes public interest statement in #Ericsson #patent case that supports Epic's #antitrust market definition http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/epicsson-apple-makes-public-interest.html #fosspatents
10:24 TR News; " #DavidKappos quickly reset expectations. And, since then we have seen a steady rise in allowance rate." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/status-utility-applications.html #kappos = #ibm and #microsoft #corruption http://techrights.org/wiki/David_Kappos
10:25 TR News; Stating the obvious https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1461934/uspto-tells-fed-circ-only-humans-can-be-inventors see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/ #uspto #patents #HeyHi
10:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1461934/uspto-tells-fed-circ-only-humans-can-be-inventors
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10:26 TR News; Provocateur #StephenThaler should be spurned based on obviousness -- the obviousness that #patents are not for bots
10:28 TR News; #UKIPO ramps up its attack on the interests of the British public https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wm9yf57shvzy/breaking-ukipo-outlines-five-year-ip-enforcement-plan see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/ #uk #monopolies
10:30 TR News; #EPO management sends a case to a #kangaroocourt , which it clearly controls in direct and obvious violation of the #EPC https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1157446/new-referral-to-the-epo-enlarged-board-of-appeal-on-the-entitlement-to-priority see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
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11:00 TR News; #Security and #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161180 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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11:04 TR News; Links 7/2/2022: #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 Released and Lots About Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/openmandriva-lx-4-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/openmandriva-lx-4-3/
11:04 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161181 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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11:23 psydroid4; are companies actually moving away from Windows on desktops and servers even more so than before? any evidence of such moves?
11:23 psydroid4; their PR is world-class, their products have no class
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11:49 XRevan86; MinceR: Good point, but even Trusting Trust can be reasonably mitigated without TinyCC involved: GCC Clang GCC
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13:24 TR News; Best #FreeSW Alternatives to IBM Maximo Application Suite Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161182 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:24 TR News; Twine: #FreeSW Tool for Making Games with Words, aka Interactive Fiction Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161183 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:24 TR News; #LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Caoln McNamara at Red Hat Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161184 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:24 TR News; #BitTorrent Client Fragments 2.0 for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:25 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161186 #Linux #TuxMachines
13:25 TR News; #Flatpak App of the Week: Fragments Modern #BitTorrent Client for the GNOME Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161187 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:54 TR News; Nobody Should be Above the Law Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #Immunity | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/
14:12 TR News; [Meme] Drunk on Power and Diplomatic #Immunity Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Impunity | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/
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14:17 TR News; #epo breaks the #law and grants #swpats using buzzwords and semantic nonsense. "This whole technical effect doctrine need to go to the bin." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/01/top-4-changes-to-the-2022-epo-guidelines-for-examination/#comment-39294
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14:21 TR News; New video re part 43 on #epo #corruption http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/ #Techrights
14:23 TR News; Decided to do a detailed video about the proxy! The gemini proxy of #techrights which I think is ready for wider use now. http://gemini.techrights.org/
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14:28 TR News; Doing a gemini proxy video, more testing needed afterwards. If you wish to help, contact us in IRC...
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14:29 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
14:29 bnchs__; did you reboot the bot?
14:29 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161188 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:29 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
14:31 schestowitz-TR; I did, yes
14:31 schestowitz-TR; there are 5 of them, one for each important channel
14:32 schestowitz-TR; some URL from a MSG hours ago crashed 2 of them
14:42 MinceR; 07 124909 < XRevan86> MinceR: Good point, but even Trusting Trust can be reasonably mitigated without TinyCC involved: GCC Clang GCC
14:42 MinceR; i don't see how
14:42 MinceR; for one thing, GCC and Clang/LLVM could both have the same backdoor built in
14:43 XRevan86; MinceR: The backdoor would have to be adapted for injection into both codebases.
14:43 XRevan86; and codebases are a moving target too
14:45 XRevan86; I'm referring to an issue of having a backdoored compiler binary that when building a compiler injects the backdoor into the compilation result, thus reproducing the backdoor.
14:51 bnchs__; doesn't that happen in rust
14:52 XRevan86; It's not immune.
14:58 schestowitz-TR; rust has HR crisis this year
14:58 schestowitz-TR; many resignations
14:58 schestowitz-TR; in bulk even
14:58 schestowitz-TR; but hery
14:58 schestowitz-TR; if you want to make linux DEPENDENT on it
14:58 schestowitz-TR; be my guest
14:58 schestowitz-TR; linus will outline rust
14:59 schestowitz-TR; but rust will become a liability and yoke
14:59 schestowitz-TR; linux: 30 years
14:59 schestowitz-TR; gcc: over 35
14:59 schestowitz-TR; rust: a few years
14:59 schestowitz-TR; and already pissing its core people off
14:59 schestowitz-TR; in Micerosoft github
14:59 schestowitz-TR; where you are not allowed to criticise criminal Microsoft
15:00 schestowitz-TR; criminaks have feelings too
15:00 schestowitz-TR; we should be excellent to each other
15:00 schestowitz-TR; to criminals too
15:00 schestowitz-TR; don't offend them
15:00 schestowitz-TR; it huts feelings
15:00 schestowitz-TR; bad bad bad
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15:13 TR Bot; Self-Hosted Gemini Proxy (HTTP and HTTPS) | Techrights
15:14 bnchs__; rust is still a memelang
15:15 bnchs__; trying to rewrite a entire kernel in it would be retarded
15:15 bnchs__; and would be bad in the long-term
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15:17 schestowitz-TR; ask tor
15:17 schestowitz-TR; they hired ian jackson iirc
15:17 schestowitz-TR; to do rust for them
15:17 schestowitz-TR; i think they want a rustlang-based tor
15:17 bnchs___; there are platforms that don't have LLVM support
15:17 schestowitz-TR; nothing says privacy like nsa shithub ^_^
15:17 schestowitz-TR; get tor today
15:17 schestowitz-TR; gegt rust
15:17 schestowitz-TR; go to mivrosoft
15:17 bnchs___; and rewriting shit in rust would absolutely ruin portablity
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15:17 schestowitz-TR; download binaries
15:17 schestowitz-TR; from nsa
15:18 schestowitz-TR; nsa would NEVER alter binaries for youy
15:18 schestowitz-TR; never
15:18 schestowitz-TR; like intercepting parcels
15:18 bnchs___; did they intercept packages during delivery and put chips on them
15:18 schestowitz; https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
15:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
15:18 TR Bot; NSA: Linux Journal is an "extremist forum" and its readers get flagged for extra surveillance | Linux Journal
15:19 schestowitz; they rry to make lists of people who wish to download tor
15:19 schestowitz; no portion of tor should touch microsoft/nssa
15:19 schestowitz; github hired leaders from nsa
15:19 schestowitz; which reaffirmed the fears
15:19 schestowitz; github is just imperialism
15:19 bnchs___; they'll flag anyone who downloads any operating systems other than windows or macOS an extremist
15:19 schestowitz; "hegemony" as they call it
15:20 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/
15:20 TR Bot; People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights
15:20 *schestowitz claps for inclusion
15:21 bnchs___; people from any forbidden country will be banned from free software
15:21 schestowitz-TR; yees, they cannot participare
15:21 schestowitz-TR; "sorry, brown lady, you cannot hang with us, the "koool" kidzzz.."
15:22 bnchs___; tor is good for this
15:22 schestowitz-TR; they call themselves "woke"a\
15:22 schestowitz-TR; and then they do this
15:22 schestowitz-TR; banning persians, too
15:22 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/
15:22 TR Bot; Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat Just Like Donald Trump Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights
15:22 schestowitz-TR; IBM should amend the CoC
15:22 schestowitz-TR; it shoiuld say: our coduct says "noMulsims"
15:23 schestowitz-TR; then IBM will pay a bunch of clappers say it's to "protect women"
15:23 *schestowitz-TR gets keyboard back in hand
15:23 schestowitz-TR; sorry about typos, I was standing up
15:23 schestowitz-TR; let me share something recent
15:25 schestowitz; found it
15:25 schestowitz; redacted a bit
15:25 schestowitz; [02:41] <ssssssssss> Got my post back too
15:25 schestowitz; [02:42] <schestowitz> Twitter?
15:25 schestowitz; [02:42] <schestowitz> they are awful
15:25 schestowitz; [02:42] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/
15:25 schestowitz; [02:42] <ssssssssss> Yep
15:25 TR Bot; Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights
15:25 schestowitz; [02:43] <ssssssssss> Yeah, i think it's algorithmic [02:43] <schestowitz> no
15:25 schestowitz; [02:43] <schestowitz> someone reported these
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15:25 schestowitz; [02:43] <ssssssssss> Like it can't determine if you're for or against something[02:43] <schestowitz> probably IBM
15:25 schestowitz; [02:44] <ssssssssss> Right but the moderators are bots
15:25 schestowitz; [02:44] <ssssssssss> Sentiment analysis is notoriously faulty
15:25 schestowitz; [02:45] <ssssssssss> Tallpoppy is trying to create silence as a service
15:25 schestowitz; [02:46] <ssssssssss> Under the guise of protecting minorities from harassment
15:25 schestowitz; [02:47] <schestowitz> in this case, a minority gets used to protect IBM from facts
15:25 schestowitz; [02:47] <schestowitz> about how it helped genocide
15:25 schestowitz; [02:48] <ssssssssss> I mean it's true that IBM aided genocide
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15:25 schestowitz; [02:48] <ssssssssss> It's not an act of discrimination to mention that
15:25 schestowitz; [02:48] <ssssssssss> I think Twitter just flags everything that has the word Nazi in it[02:48] <ssssssssss> At least after it's reported
15:26 schestowitz; [02:48] <ssssssssss> But the thing is there algorithm probably put a checkmark against you
15:26 schestowitz; [02:54] <ssssssssss> Tiktok does something similar
15:26 schestowitz; [02:54] <ssssssssss> You can't even say Nazi in a negative light
15:26 MinceR; i did nazi that coming
15:28 TR News; Sometimes when thinks break you end up with something better than before. We needed to fix http://techrights.org/git/ some week ago as we had noticed that this third-party gateway/www proxy of Gemini, while it generally works when you visit it, does not work, either as iframe or for our capsule. So we made our own.
15:28 TR Bot; Techrights Git (Self-Hosted) | Techrights
15:28 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808818.jpg
15:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808818.jpg
15:29 TR News; Not sure why... but some Gemini users suggest that their client software isn't compatible with what we use at the server side (Debian 11). And same for http://techrights.org/gemini ("The server sent an empty response" = added to list of exclusions at their end?) before we rolled out our own proxy...
15:29 TR Bot; Techrights on Gemini | Techrights
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15:55 TR News; Cause of chip shortage discovered: the chipmakers sent all the chips to Michael Larabel's home.
15:57 MinceR; lol
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16:10 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808684.png
16:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808684.png
16:10 psydroid4; Michael's warehouse
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16:45 schestowitz; activelow: good news
16:45 schestowitz; we found the 'issue', I think
16:45 schestowitz; tls 1.3 only was enabled
16:45 schestowitz; but your client probably lacks support for it
16:45 schestowitz; and insists on outdated protocols
16:46 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvhoVwGKE3U (mirror: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-riveting-conversation-with-clinton-the:1 )
16:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-riveting-conversation-with-clinton-the:1
16:46 TR Bot; riveting conversation with Clinton the cat - YouTube
16:46 TR Bot; A riveting conversation with Clinton the cat
16:47 activelow; schestowitz: test failed.
16:47 activelow; same symptom remaining.
16:50 schestowitz; activelow: try now
16:51 schestowitz; we did not update until 60 secs ago
16:55 activelow; different symptom now: [request failed] at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/; the ssl error is gone
16:56 schestowitz-TR; odd
16:57 schestowitz-TR; try flushing out cert cache?
16:57 schestowitz-TR; or application data?
16:57 activelow; there is none, various other gemini links are 100% functional
16:58 activelow; schestowitz-TR: now it is working again. problem solved. thanks.
16:58 schestowitz-TR; hurrah
16:59 activelow; goot to know it was missing tls-1.3 support with my client
17:03 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1490709170030534665#m
17:03 TR Bot; zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "EPO: "scandals in the EPO, many of my colleagues have retired with a big file containing confidential documents, a kind of insurance against bullying from the Office. At the end, truth will emerge." http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/" | nitter
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17:06 schestowitz-TR; activelow: for more info see #boycottnovell
17:06 schestowitz-TR; we were trying to debug these things
17:08 TR News; #EPO Pays Out Millions of Euros in Compensation - to Thousands of Workers Who Deserve a Lot More for Moral Damage - for Battistellis Illegal Acts (But #Battistelli Himself Has Not Been Punished at All, Nor Have His Enablers) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/
17:08 TR Bot; EPO Pays Out Millions of Euros in Compensation to Thousands of Workers Who Deserve a Lot More for Moral Damage for Battistellis Illegal Acts (But Battistelli Himself Has Not Been Punished at All, Nor Have His Enablers) | Techrights
17:16 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/internet-4
17:16 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Internet
17:26 TR News; The #EPO regime of #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos has demonstrated that immunity begets #impunity , which in turn gives an incentive to commit crimes, making corruption the norm; if European officials fail to tackle this problem, the #EU too will be at risk due to legitimacy problems Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/
17:26 TR Bot; Nobody Should be Above the Law | Techrights
17:27 TR News; When you let unqualified (in the area of patents) psychopaths run the #EPO you can expect the worst; #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos have repeatedly misused diplomatic #immunity to avoid investigation and possible prosecution http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/
17:27 TR Bot; [Meme] Drunk on Power and Diplomatic Immunity | Techrights
17:28 TR News; Easing peoples transition to #Geminispace using a Web proxy is a long-term objective, seeing that some people are intimidated by the idea of using something other than a #Webbrowser for hypertext (interconnected pages with textual formatting) http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/http-and-https-gemini-proxy/ #geminiprotocol
17:28 TR Bot; Self-Hosted Gemini Proxy (HTTP and HTTPS) | Techrights
17:28 TR News; #suepo pushing ahead for #justice after more than a decade of chronic, ongoing, systematic injustice, which saw the rule of law abolished, patent quality as collateral damage, and Europe's reputation/leadership in tatters Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #Techrights #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/
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17:49 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-8.jpg
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17:55 TR News; Qualcomm IPQ8076A WiFi 6E access point offers dual 10GbE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160933#comment-32748
17:55 TR Bot; DeskPi Lite - A Raspberry Pi 4 enclosure with full HDMI ports, two extra USB ports | Tux Machines
17:56 TR News; The road to Fragments 2.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185#comment-32749
17:56 TR Bot; BitTorrent Client 'Fragments 2.0' for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI | Tux Machines
18:00 TR News; Good news from #eponia today, for a change... http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #suepo #ilo #iloat #epo
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18:13 TR News; I seriously consider dumping the LAST and ONLY thing from #gulag I still use, albeit over RSS... #gulagnoise (some people still call it "Google News" despite the truly awful s/n ratio, lots of spam, manipulation, FUD for "engagement"... promotional corporate spam dressed up as news... basically like #socialcontrolmedia but with "news" level... sponsored 'journalism' with curated 'trends')
18:15 TR News; Removing #gulag from one's life is difficult in areas where they have complete #monopoly (or near monopoly), usually search-related things which require a lot of indexing very rapidly (very, very expensive at scale)
18:16 TR News; Just to be clear, #duckduckgo or #ddg is NOT an alternative to #gulag !!! It's more like a malicious #microsoft proxy that spies on you and operates out of MICROSOFT (read: NSA) servers. See http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/
18:16 TR Bot; Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights
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18:25 TR News; Very disturbing that #uk #bank #halifax has outsourcedd to #microsoft for #email [sic] ... this is like an open invitation for the bank and its clients' or customers' accounts to be cracked. No lack of technical failings and a bad track record.
18:54 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYOkIphBgE (mirror, if it will ever actually load: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/political-partisanship-makes-its-way-to:e )
18:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/political-partisanship-makes-its-way-to:e
18:54 TR Bot; partisanship makes its way to Right to Repair. What a fail :( - YouTube
18:54 TR Bot; Political partisanship makes its way to Right to Repair. What a fail :(
19:05 TR News; #reddit https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-8.jpg
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19:06 schestowitz; MinceR: thanks
19:06 schestowitz; it does not load sometimes
19:06 schestowitz; in falkon
19:07 schestowitz; they won't just give a video file
19:07 schestowitz; instead it's all "apps" and stuff
19:07 schestowitz; "webapps"
19:07 schestowitz; JS
19:07 schestowitz; and other such things
19:07 schestowitz; tbh, all these videos should never play in a browser
19:07 XRevan86; schestowitz: Try passing that link to MPV.
19:07 schestowitz; you should link the browser to a media player
19:07 XRevan86; if yt-dlp is installed :)
19:07 schestowitz; and when trying to view some video it should open there
19:07 schestowitz; browser is for browsing
19:08 schestowitz; XRevan86: ah, yes, same for vlc
19:08 schestowitz; but the OS does not integrate it like that
19:08 schestowitz; every link -> browser
19:08 schestowitz; maybe except irc:// and some stuff
19:09 XRevan86; schestowitz: I don't think VLC supports passing links to yt-dlp
19:11 TR News; #Montenegro ratifies something which does not even exist because it is being violated routinely without any consequences to the violators https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4581 see http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/violating-the-epc/
19:11 TR Bot; Montenegro Ratifies EPC, Amends Patent and Copyright Laws | PETOEVI
19:11 TR Bot; The EPO is Still Violating the EPC Every Day | Techrights
19:15 TR News; #gulagnoise of #googlenews now adding #blogspot blogs to its "news" sources. #gulag (Google): there are news sites! They are blogs. We control them. Google links to Google...
19:19 TR News; #EPO #patents versus human lives or public health https://www.shlegal.com/insights/the-boundaries-of-causing-loss-by-unlawful-means-secretary-of-state-for-health-v-servier #nhs #uk
19:19 TR Bot; The boundaries of causing loss by unlawful means: Secretary of State for Health v Servier
19:21 bnchs___; schestowitz: if the websites were sane, i'm pretty sure they would use html5 video only
19:21 bnchs___; but unfortuanely they fell for the "don't download my videos"
19:28 TR News; Company With Great Skill https://assets.amuniversal.com/0129e460628c013a9525005056a9545d
19:29 schestowitz; bnchs___: yes, "coz all the pirassies"
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19:52 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/smr8h5/hmm_something_feels_wrong/
19:52 TR Bot; Hmm something feels wrong : LateStageCapitalism
19:53 DaemonFC; CNBC sez: 25 year old making $100,000 has $825 rent, $40 for a cell phone, $20 for internet, rent is $825, and a maid costs $30 each month.
19:53 DaemonFC; Oh boy. I'd like to know where.
19:53 TR News; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/
19:53 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? | Techrights
19:54 DaemonFC; The first think that T-Mobile does as soon as they can pry two lines off a Sprint plan is raise it from $90 a month to $130, and that's pre-tax.
19:55 DaemonFC; Oh yeah, and they take away your free AAA membership, so have fun paying for that each year.
19:59 XRevan86; "20$ internet?! Where lol that shit is like 150$" <- Annually?
20:09 TR News; Improving #LibreOffice s network file access Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:09 TR Bot; Improving LibreOffices network file access | Tux Machines
20:09 TR News; Add four PCIe x1 slots to #RaspberryPi CM4 IO with Waveshare PCIe-Packet-Switch-4P board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161189 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:09 TR Bot; Add four PCIe x1 slots to Raspberry Pi CM4 IO with Waveshare PCIe-Packet-Switch-4P board | Tux Machines
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20:15 schestowitz; DaemonFC: yes
20:15 schestowitz; oligarchs' media
20:15 schestowitz; does this all the time
20:15 schestowitz; fictional families
20:15 schestowitz; to make you feel inadequate and insecure
20:15 schestowitz; and chase money
20:15 schestowitz; they show "household incomes" of like $300k a year
20:16 schestowitz; like BillBC promotes in its home-hunting shows couples that look for milliion-dollar homes
20:16 schestowitz; they don't want to show either poverty or reality
20:16 schestowitz; they have a lot to gain from these false narratives
20:16 schestowitz; like TV shows being full of beautiful people
20:16 schestowitz; TikTok bans or hides ugly people
20:16 schestowitz; and got caught
20:17 TR News; This New Linux Distro Combines #Fedora With Great Gaming Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161191 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:17 TR Bot; This New Linux Distro Combines Fedora With Great Gaming Software | Tux Machines
20:19 TR News; 5 Reasons to Install #GNULinux on an Old Computer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:19 TR Bot; 5 Reasons to Install Linux on an Old Computer | Tux Machines
20:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, then when people ask why they're broke it's always "Make coffee at home!".
20:22 DaemonFC; If the average income is $300,000 a year, who cares where you get coffee?
20:22 DaemonFC; Nobody's broke anymore. CNBC said so!
20:22 bnchs; tiktok actually shadowbans ugly people
20:22 bnchs; their videos appear only if they're logged in as themselves
20:22 bnchs; but wont if they logged out
20:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, Mandy watches those stupid TikTok videos.
20:23 DaemonFC; It's annoying. Extremely annoying.
20:23 DaemonFC; Between that and tapping on his damned freemium games all day.
20:24 bnchs; tiktok's only purpose is mindless entertainment
20:24 bnchs; it's just dumb shit meant to keep kids eyes on the phone always
20:25 DaemonFC; It's over now. We've solved social rot entirely.
20:25 DaemonFC; Everyone makes at least $100,000.
20:25 bnchs; what about brain rot
20:25 DaemonFC; Here's a pie chart showing your $800 rent and $20 phone.
20:25 DaemonFC; :)
20:26 DaemonFC; bbiab
20:28 bnchs; i remember when kids shows didn't have shit like dragqueens
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20:34 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/xMYOO2y.png
20:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/xMYOO2y.png
20:47 TR News; #PinePhone call quality Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:47 TR Bot; PinePhone call quality | Tux Machines
20:47 TR News; #RPi HAT features high-frequency RFID reading at up to 200 tags/sec. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:47 TR Bot; RPi HAT features high-frequency RFID reading at up to 200 tags/sec. | Tux Machines
20:47 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161195 #Linux #TuxMachines
20:47 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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20:56 bnchs__; hello
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21:01 XRevan86; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/releases/0.4.8
21:01 TR Bot; 0.4.8 PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
21:19 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/sarcasm-only-instagram-memes-15.jpg
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21:27 schestowitz; bnchs__: hello
21:27 schestowitz; XRevan86: another one?
21:28 XRevan86; schestowitz: That's the session manager, the previous release was 3 weeks ago.
21:30 bnchs__; "audio and video server"
21:30 bnchs__; do one thing at a time
21:31 XRevan86; bnchs__: PipeWire is multi-process, ye can run two instances each with a designated task if ye want :)
21:33 XRevan86; Or cherry-pick the tasks. Like only run the JACK component and nothing else.
21:37 TR News; 3ZorinOS 16 Educational Spin Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161061#comment-32750
21:37 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Education Launches with New Educational Apps, System Improvements | Tux Machines
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21:38 TR News; #QubesOS 4.1.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161119#comment-32751
21:38 TR Bot; Qubes OS 4.1.0 has been released! | Tux Machines
21:39 TR News; #GNOME #BitTorrent Client Fragments 2.0 Released! #GTK4 , Libadwaita & Remote Control http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185#comment-32752
21:39 TR Bot; BitTorrent Client 'Fragments 2.0' for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI | Tux Machines
21:41 XRevan86; bnchs__: Besides, video and audio are not that independent, especially when latency is involved.
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21:44 XRevan86; So it's not just that PipeWire is a single tool used for all data streams, that can also help synchronise the streams of audio and video.
21:47 XRevan86; bnchs__: And is it bad that it tackles both low-latency and regular audio at the same time removing the need for a JACK/PulseAudio combination?
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21:51 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22020537
21:51 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ss6uqe4v5tf81.jpg created on 2022-02-05 15:29:35.169101
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21:59 TR News; "Want to play more games on Arm devices? Projects like #Box86 and Box64 do already exist but is there a better option? FEX-Emu sounds like it's going to be another great open source way to do what you want." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fex-emu-is-a-promising-project-for-gaming-on-64bit-arm
21:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fex-emu-is-a-promising-project-for-gaming-on-64bit-arm
21:59 TR Bot; is a promising project for gaming on 64bit Arm | GamingOnLinux
22:00 TR News; " #BoilingSteam looks at the latest data dumps from #ProtonDB to give you a list of new games that work perfectly on #GNU #Linux with Proton since Jan 2022" https://boilingsteam.com/top-10-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-feb-2022-edition/
22:00 TR Bot; Top 10 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - Feb 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam
22:01 TR News; Steam Deck Previews are up, plus dbrand announce Project Killswitch | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/steam-deck-previews-are-up-plus-dbrand-announce-project-killswitch/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
22:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/steam-deck-previews-are-up-plus-dbrand-announce-project-killswitch/
22:01 TR Bot; Deck Previews are up, plus dbrand announce Project Killswitch | GamingOnLinux
22:02 TR News; Building a Retro #GNULinux Gaming Computer - Part 11: Forgotten Heresies | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-11-forgotten-heresies #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux
22:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-11-forgotten-heresies
22:02 TR Bot; a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 11: Forgotten Heresies | GamingOnLinux
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22:04 TR News; "An application that has only become more important with the Steam Deck, since it ships with Linux and #EpicGames don't support #GNU #Linux with their store." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/heroic-games-launcher-for-epic-games-on-linux-gets-some-more-fixes/
22:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/heroic-games-launcher-for-epic-games-on-linux-gets-some-more-fixes/
22:04 TR Bot; Games Launcher for Epic Games on Linux gets some more fixes | GamingOnLinux
22:06 TR News; "They're the future of Linux app distribution. Distros like Elementary, Pop, and even Steam OS support them by default. So here's what they are, how they work, and a bit of their history!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0OZ7UvIgqjc
22:06 TR Bot; If you're not using Flatpaks, you're doing Linux wrong. - Invidious
22:07 TR News; "I rarely touch my middle mouse button but it turns out it has a lot more power than I ever knew, there's the obvious autoscroll feature in browsers which I didn't know worked on Linux but there's so much more" "https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0JxosKyFgbM
22:07 TR Bot; Middle Mouse On Linux Is Incredibly Powerful - Invidious
22:07 bnchs__; i hope steam decks isn't one of valve's secret tactics to undermine GNU/Linux
22:07 bnchs__; including linustechtips
22:08 XRevan86; If "undermine" means making it something gamers might actually consider then yes.
22:08 TR News; "Why FOSS is unlikely to gain traction in education, whats great about Discourse, Linux gaming, the uncertain future of Termux, our thoughts on Snap and Flatpak, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-163/
22:08 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 163 Late Night Linux
22:08 bnchs__; i mean undermine it with an issue
22:08 schestowitz-TR; oin general?
22:08 bnchs__; that makes gnu/linux look bad
22:08 XRevan86; Steam Deck's competition is Windows machines.
22:08 schestowitz-TR; oir as a free sofwtare OS?
22:08 bnchs__; as a free software OS
22:08 schestowitz-TR; because drm adn rootkits don't help the latter
22:08 bnchs__; remember his pop!OS video
22:08 schestowitz-TR; but they do help expand the userbase of that kernel and also kde
22:09 bnchs__; in general i mean
22:09 TR News; Linux Kernel getting prepped for the #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/linux-kernel-getting-prepped-for-the-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
22:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/linux-kernel-getting-prepped-for-the-steam-deck
22:09 TR Bot; Kernel getting prepped for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
22:10 bnchs__; you know, steam's package conflicts
22:10 XRevan86; bnchs__: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0569/2771/5482/files/AYANEO_2021_Pro_Details_Page_JPG_Mobile_210731_9.jpg
22:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: shopify.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0569/2771/5482/files/AYANEO_2021_Pro_Details_Page_JPG_Mobile_210731_9.jpg
22:10 XRevan86; AYANEO 2021 Pro, a handheld PC.
22:10 TR News; "NFT" in an acronym, short for #SCAM https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/indie-store-itchio-comes-out-swinging-against-nfts #itch is right; kudos to them...
22:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/indie-store-itchio-comes-out-swinging-against-nfts
22:10 TR Bot; store itch.io comes out swinging against NFTs | GamingOnLinux
22:11 XRevan86; bnchs__: Notice something about it? :)
22:11 bnchs__; it's chinese windows?
22:11 TR News; #freesw evolution sim Thrive adds a new cell to grow with | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-adds-a-new-cell-to-grow-with #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
22:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-adds-a-new-cell-to-grow-with
22:11 TR Bot; source evolution sim Thrive adds a new cell to grow with | GamingOnLinux
22:12 XRevan86; bnchs__: It's Windows in general.
22:12 bnchs__; yes
22:12 bnchs__; windows in arm?
22:12 XRevan86; x86
22:12 XRevan86; It's a lot like Steam Deck.
22:13 TR News; " #OpenMW is a fantastic open source game engine reimplementation for #Morrowind , plus there's the online fork of TES3MP which has sprung back to life with a new release." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/online-multiplayer-for-openmw-morrowind-tes3mp-is-alive-again
22:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/online-multiplayer-for-openmw-morrowind-tes3mp-is-alive-again
22:13 TR Bot; multiplayer for OpenMW (Morrowind) TES3MP is alive again | GamingOnLinux
22:13 bnchs__; what about Xash3D
22:13 XRevan86; But unlike Steam Deck, its goal is not to "undermine" GNU/Linux, if ye know what I mean.
22:13 bnchs__; you can play counter strike multiplayer on it
22:14 XRevan86; Not compatible with vanilla multiplayer, but yes.
22:14 bnchs__; XRevan86, by running windows?
22:14 XRevan86; bnchs__: Yes.
22:15 bnchs__; xash3D has portions of leaked source code on it anyway
22:16 bnchs__; i hope they can rewrite those
22:16 TR News; "In episode 24 of the WordPress Briefing, the Projects Executive Director reviews three big-picture goals for the year: Increased Gutenberg adoption, support of all open source alternatives, and stewarding the open source ethos." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/02/episode-24-three-goals-in-2022/
22:16 TR Bot; Episode 24: Three Goals in 2022 WordPress.org
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22:18 bnchs__; until that day comes, they're at valve's mercy
22:21 TR News; #Games: FEX-Emu, Steam, Free Software Games, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:21 TR Bot; Games: FEX-Emu, Steam, Free Software Games, and More | Tux Machines
22:21 TR News; 161197
22:21 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Late Night Linux, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161197 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:21 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines
22:24 TR News; The EPOs administration has come to the point where it shamelessly and systematically misuses immunity to break the law without any consequences either to ringleaders such as #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/
22:24 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? | Techrights
22:28 TR News; #HowTo Test Various Linux Distros Online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:28 TR Bot; How to Test Various Linux Distros Online | Tux Machines
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22:38 DaemonFC; I love Illinois. If you attack a pregnant woman it's "attempted intentional homicide of an unborn baby", but if a woman goes to the doctor to commit intentional homicide of an unborn baby, they call it reproductive freedom.
22:39 DaemonFC; Really the only difference is was it the mom that decided to kill it and was it a doctor who carried out the hit.
22:39 DaemonFC; https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-man-followed-pregnant-woman-after-altercation-shot-her-while-driving-in-willowbrook-prosecutors
22:39 TR Bot; Chicago man followed pregnant woman after altercation, shot her while driving in Willowbrook: prosecutors
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22:41 DaemonFC; Hell-inois.....Felonious.......
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22:42 DaemonFC; Felonois, rather....
22:42 DaemonFC; Autocorrect fail.
22:46 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/peter-thiel-steps-down-meta
22:46 TR Bot; Thiel will step down from Meta's board - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
22:52 psydroid4; Valve getting into Steam Deck and making native versions of their games for x86 GNU/Linux and making x86 Windows games playable is about self-preservation
22:53 psydroid4; Microsoft can buy big gaming studios and put smaller companies that don't "comply" out of business simply by cloning their product and bundling it with Windows or some kind of subscription that is advertised in or with Windows
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22:55 psydroid4; that doesn't mean Valve is our friend, but if they can take some market share from Microsoft that will open up the market for more companies
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23:09 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-38.jpg
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23:44 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/sarcasm-only-instagram-memes-16.jpg
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23:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.92
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