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00:36 schestowitz-TR; 1. seems the reason the capsule was not updating was a lockfile being stuck there
00:36 schestowitz-TR; I removed it and now it seems to be going OK
00:36 schestowitz-TR; 2. for the first time in a while I checked the sizes of wordpress dumps, gz'ed
00:36 schestowitz-TR; in the past week sometimes the file grew bigger, sometimes smaller, still
00:36 schestowitz-TR; around 1.4gb
00:36 schestowitz-TR; this is not the behavious I am accustomed to
00:36 schestowitz-TR; unless wordpress does very heavy internal caching, so it made me wonder
00:36 schestowitz-TR; if the apache hangups COULD be related to this
00:36 schestowitz-TR; I have no reason to believe data was lost, I saw no issue at the user end of
00:36 schestowitz-TR; admin side
00:36 schestowitz-TR; but I wonder why the size changes
00:36 schestowitz-TR; it varies as much as 200MB compressed between nights
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01:09 schestowitz-TR; Did I miss sometghing in the ytalksm session?
01:09 Techrights-sec; Nothing new.
01:10 schestowitz-TR; Did I miss sometghing in the ytalksm session?
01:10 schestowitz-TR; handing over tyo colleague at work atm, will be free in a moment
01:10 schestowitz-TR; I have some notes on what to test next and I want to finish cleaning RSS before 2
01:10 schestowitz-TR; :40am cutoff (bulletin)
01:10 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc/#is#already#formatted. ##########
01:10 Techrights-sec; ack
01:11 schestowitz-TR; the rogi file is in root and isn't too pretty
01:11 schestowitz-TR; orig.
01:31 schestowitz-TR; handover sent (work)
01:31 schestowitz-TR; regarding wordpresss, one theory is that internal WP cashe gets flushed, thenn re
01:31 schestowitz-TR; built
01:31 schestowitz-TR; then flushed again
01:31 schestowitz-TR; perfectly possible
01:31 schestowitz-TR; but rare
01:32 Techrights-sec; Not familiar with inner workings of WP.
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01:43 schestowitz-TR; yay! gemini refresh was successful, took almost half an hour to catch up
01:43 schestowitz-TR; sorry, multitasking too much atm
01:44 Techrights-sec; WP seems overly complicated.
01:44 Techrights-sec; Excellent. It normally takes 7 - 9 minutes. If there were any articles missing
01:44 Techrights-sec; they can still be fetched, if they are in RSS, by adjusting the relative date.
01:44 Techrights-sec; Older articles are more work to fetch.
01:45 schestowitz-TR; let me paste somr todo notes
01:46 schestowitz; DONE finish proxy, firewall, files etc.
01:46 schestowitz; debug errors nginx (some unix warnings), double slashes/traversal deeper (not urgent),
01:46 schestowitz; css and technical proxy enhancements, push to git
01:46 schestowitz; SOLVED tr-gemini does not refressh
01:46 schestowitz; DONE search and replace proxies in site, weed out third party ones
01:46 schestowitz; DONE change vulpes
01:46 schestowitz; proxy: add ssl at end?
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01:52 Techrights-sec; ok. Can you show an example ofthe double slashes? I have one mitigation in
01:52 Techrights-sec; place but need to know if it should be moved to elsewhere in the program.
01:52 Techrights-sec; SSL can be added as per normal for Ngninx.
01:52 Techrights-sec; https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate-for-nginx-in-ubuntu-20-04-1
01:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.digitalocean.com | How To Create a Self-Signed SSL Certificate for Nginx in Ubuntu 20.04 | DigitalOcean
01:53 schestowitz-TR; on the page, any page, navigate to git, then browse the repository. you will see...
01:53 schestowitz-TR; re double slashes, it's often adding an additional one, need to find steps to reproduce still
01:55 Techrights-sec; ack
01:55 Techrights-sec; ok fixed
01:59 Techrights-sec; see ~gemini/bin/gemini-proxy.pl
01:59 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr-git/ is missing. Looking.
01:59 schestowitz-TR; it leaves out the base dir
02:12 Techrights-sec; fixed
02:12 Techrights-sec; what is an example of the "traversal deeper" item?
02:12 schestowitz-TR; I think it's that thing you've just tackled, let me see if nginx still have stuff in error log file
02:15 schestowitz-TR; that issue seems limited to requests for ~chat
02:15 schestowitz-TR; OK, that seems to alwo correleta with double slahes
02:15 Techrights-sec; gemini-proxy.service has to be restarted each time the script is updated
02:15 Techrights-sec; ok checking
02:18 schestowitz-TR; curiously, techrights is nnow 4 servers, or 2+2
02:18 schestowitz-TR; DB container, httpd container, gemnini back end, and nginx front end
02:18 schestowitz-TR; for any given article
02:38 schestowitz-TR; updated
02:38 schestowitz-TR; refreshed
02:38 schestowitz-TR; restarted
02:41 schestowitz; "Summary of changes" under http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Links/
02:41 Techrights-sec; ack
02:41 Techrights-sec; ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl
02:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights
02:43 Techrights-sec; ack
02:43 Techrights-sec; hmm. which script was that made from?
02:43 Techrights-sec; ...
02:44 schestowitz-TR; side point: only the wiki and blog sections ought to link to "original" , ad the
02:44 schestowitz-TR; rest have other url topology ad would lead to 404s on apache
02:48 Techrights-sec; ok, the others can be removed.
03:00 Techrights-sec; I've fixe it for the wiki but what is a sample URL for the blog section?
03:00 Techrights-sec; ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl
03:00 schestowitz-TR; adding ssl atm, takes minutes to generate entropy
03:01 schestowitz-TR; I've just paused it to update perl and restart
03:21 Techrights-sec; ack
03:21 Techrights-sec; ok the 'changes' link should work again
03:22 schestowitz-TR; updated
03:22 schestowitz-TR; for perl
03:22 schestowitz-TR; trying to sort out ssl, it complains about the cert's form atm
03:25 schestowitz-TR; ok, fixed
03:25 schestowitz-TR; https should work now
03:25 schestowitz-TR; i will push to git the nginx ocongig late
03:26 schestowitz-TR; but I think I used a cipher so strong that falkon, not the firefox things,
03:26 schestowitz-TR; moans about it
03:26 Techrights-sec; ack
03:26 Techrights-sec; checking
03:26 Techrights-sec; ack
03:26 Techrights-sec; checking
03:27 Techrights-sec; chromium probably complains worse
03:27 schestowitz-TR; i do not have it installed
03:30 schestowitz-TR; an old chrome on another machine warns but let's me in if I insist
03:30 schestowitz-TR; but like the official site, I will keep it without ssl BY DEFAULT
03:30 schestowitz-TR; to avoid some of this scaremongering
03:30 schestowitz-TR; if the browser insists on https it'll be there
03:30 schestowitz-TR; self-signed
03:30 Techrights-sec; chromium probably complains worse
03:30 Techrights-sec; atm me neither
03:37 schestowitz-TR; pushed to git moments ago
03:37 schestowitz-TR; do you think it is worthwhile changing url.sh to add the gateway url to
03:37 schestowitz-TR; social control media? when new articles get posted in Techrights
03:38 Techrights-sec; The Gemini proxy? It's ideally a temporary service, so it should not be
03:38 Techrights-sec; pushed too much where it will get archived a lot. Maybe the word temporary
03:38 Techrights-sec; ought to appear in the service's content and in the title?
03:41 schestowitz-TR; the word temporary would not best edescribe what it is
03:41 schestowitz-TR; i am thiunking...
03:41 schestowitz-TR; at least it does link to originals
03:41 schestowitz-TR; so spinders will trest it accordingly
03:41 schestowitz-TR; if they work properly, which you don't know...
03:41 schestowitz-TR; Maybe rework "See aleo:
03:41 schestowitz-TR; to say, this a Geminino gateway for x and we suggest using proper, standalone
03:41 schestowitz-TR; [link to gemini software]
03:49 schestowitz-TR; site backup taken just now
03:49 schestowitz-TR; compressing
03:49 schestowitz-TR; total wordpress db size 7.6 gb
03:49 schestowitz-TR; let's see what that compressed to tonight
03:49 schestowitz-TR; 400mb and going... (gz)
03:49 schestowitz-TR; i now see baidu in the gateway's logs
03:49 schestowitz-TR; well, at least we know it links to the originalk http/html
03:49 schestowitz-TR; might need to reword preamble a little
03:49 schestowitz-TR; that could even add images (added to the page for presentation near top
03:49 schestowitz-TR; I can enahance it a bit later if we agree on some changes
03:49 schestowitz-TR; oh, compressed dump complete, I think this might boil down to caching in WP
03:49 Techrights-sec; ack
03:49 Techrights-sec; I've added an advisory to the link.
03:49 Techrights-sec; ok
03:51 schestowitz; "
03:51 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/gimp-taught-in-libraries/
03:51 schestowitz; and: This is only a proxy HTTP-Gemini gateway. We highly recommend using a proper Gemini Client Software instead.
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 6/2/2022: NuTyX 22.02.4, GIMP Taught in Libraries | Techrights
03:51 schestowitz; "
03:51 schestowitz; maybe missing words before URL
03:51 schestowitz; "and: This"
03:52 schestowitz; in "a Gemini" - > "Gemini" (grammar)?
03:52 schestowitz-TR; restarted perl unit
03:56 Techrights-sec; ack
03:56 Techrights-sec; ok try the new file
03:56 schestowitz-TR; ok, one minute
03:56 schestowitz-TR; this pi has turned into somewhat of a powerhouse
03:56 schestowitz-TR; many gemini and http/s requests per day
03:57 schestowitz-TR; done, updated
04:00 Techrights-sec; thanks
04:00 Techrights-sec; :( and then link an ifram from the original to the proxy :/
04:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe the url at the top can become <a href="$theurl>the original article complet
04:01 schestowitz-TR; e with pictures, video etc.......</a>
04:01 schestowitz-TR; lol
04:01 schestowitz-TR; come to think of it
04:01 schestowitz-TR; you could iframe the orignal inside this gemproxy
04:01 schestowitz-TR; lol
04:01 schestowitz-TR; like a twio way mirror
04:01 schestowitz-TR; iframe src="...">
04:01 schestowitz-TR; lol because yes, it would loook chaotic and in fact recrusive afaik
04:01 schestowitz-TR; geeks' head explodes!!!
04:10 schestowitz-TR; pushed minor fix to git
04:10 schestowitz-TR; make sure to pull asap
04:11 schestowitz-TR; ok text update
04:11 schestowitz-TR; d
04:11 Techrights-sec; ok text update
04:11 Techrights-sec; d
04:23 schestowitz-TR; pushed minor fix to git
04:23 schestowitz-TR; make sure to pull asap
04:23 schestowitz-TR; working to fix an issue where http (not https) urls try to use the gateway
04:23 schestowitz-TR; instead of going to original URLs (http)
04:23 schestowitz-TR; just looked, cannot find that bbit eaile, will post rss links stuff instead
04:23 schestowitz-TR; I think you can catch this faster
04:23 schestowitz-TR; basically the gateway trtied to find every http) prt 80) in the gateway
04:23 schestowitz-TR; this impacts Daily Links and can lead to many 404s on the gateaway
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08:09 Techrights-sec; ok chekcing
08:09 Techrights-sec; I see it. It may have to be fixed upstream in the other gemini script.
08:09 Techrights-sec; can you try with the version in ~gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl ?
08:09 Techrights-sec; I cannot duplicate the problem here so it may be the script there is an older
08:09 Techrights-sec; one. (I can see the problem there howevr)
08:09 Techrights-sec; Wait. Those are identical, it is already uptodate.
08:09 Techrights-sec; Strange
08:09 Techrights-sec; sudo systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service ?
08:10 Techrights-sec; ok I am seeing some issue in dealing with quirks. It kind of chokes when
08:10 Techrights-sec; fed http:/ instead of http:// though both are valid only the latter is common.
08:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: though; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// though )
08:10 schestowitz-TR; back
08:21 Techrights-sec; found another bug related to that...
08:21 Techrights-sec; try ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl
08:23 schestowitz-TR; done
08:23 Techrights-sec; that fixes at least two problems though I can't duplicate the main problem
08:23 Techrights-sec; here.
08:23 Techrights-sec; Thanks. Checking.
08:23 Techrights-sec; Yes, that seems to have done it.
08:26 schestowitz-TR; yes
08:26 schestowitz-TR; latest videos links work now
08:26 schestowitz-TR; those were http
08:26 schestowitz-TR; also the http urls in daily links
08:26 Techrights-sec; It was hard to track down due to
08:26 Techrights-sec; some associated rendering bugs in both Brave and Firefox.
08:26 Techrights-sec; those seem to work too
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09:47 Techrights-sec; Brave does not provide a clean way to visit sites with self-signed certificates.
09:47 Techrights-sec; It issues warnings and has the protocol in red strikethrough letters. If
09:47 Techrights-sec; you choose the warnng icon it states flat out, but wrongly, that the connection
09:47 Techrights-sec; is "not secure".
09:47 schestowitz-TR; nothing "brace" about that. They push sacammy fakecoins/scamcoins, but won't trust sites which trust themsekves.
09:47 schestowitz-TR; nothing "brave" about that. They push sacammy fakecoins/scamcoins, but won't trust sites which trust themsekves.
09:48 schestowitz-TR; btw, are other links on the way
09:48 schestowitz-TR; I have just recorded two videosfor about an hour
09:48 Techrights-sec; yes, on the way still.
10:00 Techrights-sec; yes, on the way still. Try now.
10:00 Techrights-sec; router maintenace eta 30 min
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10:31 schestowitz-TR; today's daily links had breyer, which I guess is no accident
10:31 schestowitz-TR; I've added a draft just now while video processes or progresses
10:32 Techrights-sec; maintenacneemnce complete
10:32 Techrights-sec; breyer is one of the only politicians addressing technology policies
10:32 Techrights-sec; reda was really good but has moved on and, most unfortunately, seems to be
10:32 Techrights-sec; increasingly disinformed/ misinformed via social control media
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10:33 Techrights-sec; She was on top of things while in office though.
10:33 Techrights-sec; I hope that breyer is able not only to stay in office a while longer but to
10:33 Techrights-sec; bring other polticians willing to take on technology policy matters and not
10:33 Techrights-sec; lobbyist money
10:33 schestowitz-TR; at the moment he is the oinly .de politician or MEP taking on the UPC head--on
10:33 schestowitz-TR; but that might nchange
10:36 Techrights-sec; I hope it changes, the economy and human rights combine to need such a change
10:39 schestowitz-TR; energy prices high
10:39 schestowitz-TR; food also
10:39 schestowitz-TR; salaries the same
10:39 schestowitz-TR; jobs reduced
10:39 schestowitz-TR; inflation soaring, so you cannot buy things other than food and energy either
10:39 schestowitz-TR; journalism stagnant
10:39 schestowitz-TR; see daily links I put there
10:39 schestowitz-TR; lotsm of paid-for SPAM disguised as journalism
10:39 schestowitz-TR; IBM and tohers
10:39 schestowitz-TR; "ssponsored by [subject oif article]"
10:39 schestowitz-TR; even michael and fatima crossed to the other side
10:39 schestowitz-TR; BTW, re bryer, I was making sure this ws the only manually-curated
10:39 schestowitz-TR; iutem you had
10:39 schestowitz-TR; as in the past it could be indicative of editing mistaker
10:40 Techrights-sec; Food is expected to become quite expensive all around. Eventually, though
10:40 Techrights-sec; the price will shoot through the roof as the mass destruction of arable land
10:40 Techrights-sec; crosses a threshold.
10:40 Techrights-sec; Ah. Thanks for checking. But yes there were few items, in fact just the one.
10:40 Techrights-sec; Slow news + other activities.
10:40 schestowitz-TR; ACK
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11:21 Techrights-sec; ack
11:24 Techrights-sec; ack
11:24 Techrights-sec; Also as of 20 years ago, empathy had diminished massively compated to the early 1
11:24 Techrights-sec; 990s. I would posit that the general empath levels have diminished further.
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11:48 schestowitz-TR; draft
11:48 Techrights-sec; s/quire/quite/
11:49 schestowitz-TR; it is hard not to notice it
11:49 schestowitz-TR; but in the past year we published like several book vaolumes, of very high
11:49 schestowitz-TR; quality of research about EPO scandals
11:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm not saying we will ever try to "sell" this
11:50 schestowitz-TR; but... given the lack of "compettition" over such information online
11:50 schestowitz-TR; I think such information will be accssed a lot for a decade to come
11:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to catch up with patent news in a moment
11:54 schestowitz-TR; gulagnoise is very very emotionally draining
11:54 schestowitz-TR; spam and self-promotion
11:54 schestowitz-TR; but... what else can be used? not much competition
11:54 schestowitz-TR; 9to5 linus was added to gulagnoise
11:54 schestowitz-TR; marius was delighted and thank me a lot
11:54 schestowitz-TR; law firms and their sites rarely have rss feeds
11:54 schestowitz-TR; so you mmight say,
11:54 schestowitz-TR; where to find patent news
11:55 schestowitz-TR; m
11:55 schestowitz-TR; me: whaaaa?
11:55 schestowitz-TR; news about patents?
11:55 schestowitz-TR; no much thing anymore
11:55 schestowitz-TR; just spam disguised as "news"
11:55 schestowitz-TR; firm hires "partner" or associates" = "news"
11:58 Techrights-sec; ack
11:58 Techrights-sec; ack
11:58 schestowitz-TR; rianne checked pihut and pimoroni
11:58 schestowitz-TR; pi 400 not available in uk
11:59 schestowitz-TR; france and germany ok
11:59 schestowitz-TR; she left an email address in case some replinish t heir stocks here
11:59 schestowitz-TR; 2022: when you want to buy something and the shop says, "no, we can';t sell"
11:59 schestowitz-TR; "capitalism" at its finest... sweatshops
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12:10 Techrights-sec; sweatshops are just about everywhere these days
12:12 schestowitz-TR; in the west it is referred to as modern-0age slavery, which they tell us is
12:12 schestowitz-TR; just a myth and imposed laboiur (to keep root above head) is just some
12:12 schestowitz-TR; "asian" issue; either way, various aspects of the system are failing
12:12 schestowitz-TR; when old and frail people need to choose betwqeen eating and heating
12:12 schestowitz-TR; all that technobaabble and bubble doesn';t mean jack to them
12:12 schestowitz-TR; and their technofascistic "smart" phones did not enhance their lives
12:12 schestowitz-TR; in any meaningful way
12:12 schestowitz-TR; now at the shops they insist they need to learn to become cashiers
12:12 schestowitz-TR; at age 80
12:21 Techrights-sec; that's happened here too
12:22 schestowitz-TR; the year is 2060
12:22 schestowitz-TR; you want to eat?
12:22 schestowitz-TR; learn how to grow the food
12:23 schestowitz-TR; then bring it to the "cashier"
12:23 schestowitz-TR; to process the crops
12:23 schestowitz-TR; pay twice as much as 10 years earlier
12:23 schestowitz-TR; be thankful you can eat
12:23 schestowitz-TR; after all, covid-59 makes you thankful to just be alive
12:27 Techrights-sec; Harrison was an over optimist:
12:27 Techrights-sec; https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/473850.Make_Room_Make_Room_
12:27 Techrights-sec; https://www.wyzant.com/resources/answers/90829/a_lily_pad_is_growing_in_a_pond_and_it_doubles_in_size_every_day_after_30_days_it_covers_the_entire_pond_on_what_day_does_it_cover_half_pond
12:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison
12:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wyzant.com | a lily pad is growing in a pond and it doubles in size every day. after 30 days it covers the entire pond. on what day does it cover half pond | Wyzant Ask An Expert
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13:30 schestowitz-TR; close($log); looks so much better
13:30 schestowitz-TR; I'll have a quick go at the file
13:30 schestowitz-TR; headsup to avoid m simultaneous edits
13:30 schestowitz-TR; (conmflicting ones)
13:30 Techrights-sec; yes, it was some debugging material left over , I think I've tracked down
13:30 Techrights-sec; and removed all artifacts of the testing phase.
13:38 Techrights-sec; That last only opened a file but did not put anything in it.
13:38 Techrights-sec; ok checking
13:38 schestowitz-TR; pushed to git, may do another push shortlu
13:41 Techrights-sec; the error from 05:47 has probably been addressed.
13:41 Techrights-sec; maintenacnee
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14:18 schestowitz-TR; are you ok with the lkatest changes?
14:18 schestowitz-TR; is it ok to push to git
14:18 schestowitz-TR; ?
14:18 schestowitz-TR; i left in tact almost all that you did
14:18 schestowitz-TR; added a little on top of it
14:21 Techrights-sec; Yes, though the one can be tweaked a little. Just moment. Ok pushed.
14:21 Techrights-sec; I've commented out two unused modules but not removed the comments because
14:21 Techrights-sec; the one is useful in debugging (in the test environment) and the other might
14:21 Techrights-sec; be needed eventually.
14:21 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure of the /right/ way to do FastCGI, but this way definitely has
14:21 Techrights-sec; full privilege separation.
14:22 schestowitz-TR; did you make the change in git, locally, or the live server? I would need to merg
14:22 schestowitz-TR; e edits manually
14:23 Techrights-sec; Git
14:23 Techrights-sec; Git is designed for concurrent editing.
14:23 schestowitz-TR; yes, I know, but in the past it just panicked and did fast forwards ands things
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14:41 schestowitz-TR; ok, after a lot of struggle
14:41 schestowitz-TR; I think git stopped shouting at me
14:41 schestowitz-TR; I merged the conflicting edits
14:45 schestowitz-TR; ok, nothing in error log since 6am today (GMT)
14:45 schestowitz-TR; the access logs show over 3k requests since we started last night
14:45 schestowitz-TR; it does work over https but promoting such URLs will allow
14:45 schestowitz-TR; browsers to shout at users, scaring them more than padlock BS
14:45 Techrights-sec; excellent
14:45 Techrights-sec; I presume indexers?
14:46 schestowitz-TR; i ddi not look, but the error file not growing for hours is good news
14:46 schestowitz-TR; *for 8 hours
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15:53 Techrights-sec; I think all the corner cases are covered now
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16:07 schestowitz-TR; top-level domain gemini.tr org now responds ok on 3 ports with /
16:07 schestowitz-TR; gemini, htttp, https
16:07 schestowitz-TR; added redirects
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16:35 schestowitz-TR; after tonight's shift I will be free till Friday
16:35 schestowitz-TR; I really like this proxy/gateway
16:35 schestowitz-TR; it's also a contigency or GETAWAY in case of server downtimes
16:35 Techrights-sec; Great!
16:36 schestowitz; old alias, pointing to gemini as aaa record: http://home.techrights.org
16:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights
16:58 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/series-trade-marks-are-bundle-of.html?showComment=1643884539582#c127131582717294680
16:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Series trade marks are a bundle of separate trade marks, Court of Appeal declares in Fox's latest Glee challenge - The IPKat
16:58 schestowitz; "
16:58 schestowitz; Appeal withdrawn (settlement reached):
16:58 schestowitz; https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/appeal-withdrawn-twentieth-century-fox-film-corporation-v-comic-enterprises-limited.html
16:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.supremecourt.uk | Appeal withdrawn: Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation v Comic Enterprises Limited - The Supreme Court
16:58 schestowitz; "
16:59 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/neurim-v-mylan-illiad-was-shorter.html?showComment=1643740568018#c5161634681479973637
16:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Neurim v. Mylan-- the Illiad was shorter - The IPKat
16:59 schestowitz; "
16:59 schestowitz; The issue is that divisionals can be filed at any point a patent is pending at the EPO. The EPO did introduce changes to limit the filings of divisionals and this was a welcome improvment. But that was reversed due lobbying by the patent world whose fees are paid through the filing of very expensive divisionals. Let's pause here and recognise that this patent will expire in 2022! So the patentee can define their invention over 18 years in as
16:59 schestowitz; many divisionals as they choose to file. If we accept the principle that some patents should be challenged because they are bad for society then to remove all incentives, which have to be commercial, makes little sense if you can keep coming back for more.
16:59 schestowitz; The solution is 1. the EPO has to speed up 2. divisionals should be limited in time and/or double patenting has to be more rigorously applied. The best option for double patenting is for courts to flex a little more around the Arrow injuctions.
16:59 schestowitz; In this case the Arrow injunction could not apply as they were found to infringe a valid patent! My limited understanding is that the expert for Mylan had a bad day and, therefore, they have to do it all over again.
17:00 schestowitz; I could be wrong but I think Mylan have not launched in the UK but Teva have. Teva were temporarily injuncted in Israel from launching this product due to a claim of an abuse of confidential information. https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3736281,00.html. I assume that has all now been concluded.
17:00 schestowitz; "
17:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.calcalistech.com | Teva Blocked From Launching Generic Version of Israeli Sleep Medicine Circadin - CTech
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20:17 Techrights-sec; ack
20:17 Techrights-sec; do we need a bot filter for the HTTP-Gemini proxy?
20:17 Techrights-sec; ok
20:18 schestowitz-TR; old alias, pointing to gemini as aaa record: http://home.techrights.org
20:18 schestowitz-TR; no, not yet
20:18 schestowitz-TR; just woke up btw
20:18 Techrights-sec; ok
20:18 Techrights-sec; sorry did not mean to make noise
20:37 Techrights-sec; small adjustment pushed to Git
20:38 Techrights-sec; ack
20:42 schestowitz; sudo cp /home/gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/ && sudo systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service
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21:33 activelow; (more) => gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/
21:33 activelow; SSL error 326
21:33 activelow; Error: SSL error
21:33 activelow; [request failed] at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/
21:34 schestowitz-TR; which client?
21:34 schestowitz-TR; and since when?
21:38 activelow; cgmnlm; with both torsocks and without. other gemini sites work, and techrights was ok some weeks ago too.
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21:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe the handshake protocol is too new
21:39 schestowitz-TR; we upgraded to latest debian
21:39 activelow; currently, it is gemini://gemini.techrights.org affected only, with cgmnlm, other sites work
21:42 schestowitz-TR; telescrope, kristall, amfora etc. all work
21:42 schestowitz-TR; lagrange also
21:42 schestowitz-TR; let me check moonlander
21:43 schestowitz-TR; I noticed one proxy host was failing
21:43 schestowitz-TR; I think incompatible new protocol or version
21:43 schestowitz-TR; try to updatre your client maybe?
21:43 schestowitz-TR; I take your report seriously and investigate now
21:44 schestowitz-TR; moonlander works OK also
21:44 schestowitz-TR; and most people access it OK
21:44 schestowitz-TR; 20k requests since midnight today
21:45 schestowitz-TR; ok, so what I can suggest is, make sure you lose the latest version of your software
21:45 schestowitz-TR; seems like one of those cases where debian's new ciphers or version specs cause issues
21:46 schestowitz-TR; today I added https to the proxy
21:46 schestowitz-TR; and falkon could not handle the algorithm
21:46 schestowitz; sudo openssl dhparam -out /etc/nginx/dhparam.pem 4096
21:46 schestowitz; Generating DH parameters, 4096 bit long safe prime, generator 2
21:46 schestowitz; This is going to take a long time
21:46 schestowitz; took almost 10 minutes!
22:04 activelow; only surprised a protocol update could break my favorite gemini client; not high priority otherwise
22:05 activelow; didn't update libressl for a while too, although it would be the first incident to break SSL in any application with any server
22:17 schestowitz; interesting...
22:17 schestowitz; yes, older systems fail a lot with this cert mill
22:17 schestowitz; sadlyt
22:21 activelow; don't think it's cert related, except if their internal structure changed, which i doubt
22:22 activelow; currently thinking about something else, which are GCC, tinycc, standards compliance, and vendor-locks
22:23 activelow; as if my mood hasn't been bad enough already, because those compilers were OK, too linux kernel was... up until some corrupt entities decided to "improve" upon that
22:24 activelow; the fun part of this is, since gcc-4.8 those responsible knee-jerked themselves, unpreceeded in the history in this project
22:24 activelow; becaues, tcc could cleanly bootstrap gcc, yet can't anymore since when some decisions were made by GNU/GCC or whoever it was
22:25 activelow; same with linux kernel, it could be compiled with tcc, up until recently situation escalated when linux kernel decided this
22:26 activelow; #if gcc #elif clang #else #error #endif... now they say i would be "complaining" and should reimplement some clusterfuck of a decade of millions of man-hours of work to feed any sane compiler with
22:27 activelow; THIS is what some "red hat" affiliates argued, and of cause i had no clue of what i was talking about
22:27 activelow; after weeks of working and endless nightshifts, for exactly this amount of income: 0
22:31 activelow; it's remarkable, because GNU guix project was the last to seriously consider GCC bootstrapping, little later tinycc showcased a clean procedure, and nowadays anyone had to disassemble dozens of Megs of binary to review GCC bootstrapping alone
22:32 activelow; of cause, this isn't a problem for them, since they conquered the Olymp of free software, where this is a non-issue for the higher intellect of theirs, which escapes mine
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23:40 schestowitz-TR; sudo cp /home/gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/ && sudo sy
23:40 schestowitz-TR; stemctl restart gemini-proxy.service
23:40 schestowitz-TR; I pushed quite a few minor changes through git
23:40 schestowitz-TR; nginx served 5k pages
23:40 schestowitz-TR; I did not study the nature of these, it does not matter much
23:40 schestowitz-TR; home.techrights.org
23:40 schestowitz-TR; yes, just a gateway, but also alternative
23:40 schestowitz-TR; though rss feeds are vastly better
23:45 schestowitz; I've only just noticed that the links at bottom of http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi go to the wrong pages, based on traversal/path interpretation issue
23:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights
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