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00:01 TR News; "Smart" https://theconversation.com/car-thieves-are-using-increasingly-sophisticated-methods-and-most-new-vehicles-are-vulnerable-206466
00:01 TR Bot; Car thieves are using increasingly sophisticated methods, and most new vehicles are vulnerable
00:01 TR News; fly activism https://theconversation.com/speaking-up-for-the-annoying-fruit-fly-204587
00:01 TR Bot; Speaking up for the annoying fruit fly
00:02 TR News; Cheating the system https://theconversation.com/are-rich-people-more-intelligent-heres-what-the-science-says-205694
00:02 TR Bot; Are rich people more intelligent? Here's what the science says
00:03 TR News; This is NOT a new problem AT ALL https://theconversation.com/automation-risks-creating-a-two-tier-workforce-of-haves-and-have-nots-205800
00:03 TR Bot; Automation risks creating a two-tier workforce of haves and have-nots
00:09 TR News; Roman Tsisyk https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/734
00:09 TR Bot; Organic Maps
00:10 TR News; Wikipedia Article Titles https://xkcd.com/2782/
00:10 TR Bot; Wikipedia Article Titles
00:10 TR News; Ruling Out https://xkcd.com/2783/
00:10 TR Bot; Ruling Out
00:10 TR News; Drainage Basins https://xkcd.com/2784/
00:10 TR Bot; Drainage Basins
00:14 TR News; We All Lie...And We All Know That We All Lie https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=UQezzU0fVX8
00:14 TR Bot; We All Lie...And We All Know That We All Lie - Invidious
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00:18 TR News; The Debt Burden and the Burden of Copyright and Patent Monopolies https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/05/24/the-debt-burden-and-the-burden-of-copyright-and-patent-monopolies/
00:18 TR Bot; Debt Burden and the Burden of Copyright and Patent Monopolies - CounterPunch.org
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00:19 TR News; Supreme Court finds in favour of newspaper in Little Mermaid copyright case https://cphpost.dk/2023-05-24/news/national/supreme-court-finds-in-favour-of-newspaper-in-little-mermaid-copyright-case/
00:19 TR Bot; Supreme Court finds in favour of newspaper in Little Mermaid copyright case - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
00:19 TR News; The copyright adventure of two typefaces: Is the Spectral font infringing? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/the-copyright-adventure-of-two.html
00:19 TR Bot; The copyright adventure of two typefaces: Is the Spectral font infringing? - The IPKat
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda https://www.engadget.com/youtube-changes-misinformation-policy-to-allow-videos-falsely-claiming-fraud-in-the-2020-us-election-184319851.html
00:21 TR Bot; changes misinformation policy to allow videos falsely claiming fraud in the 2020 US election | Engadget
00:28 TR News; Perl Toolchain Summit 2023 in Lyon blogs.perl.org/users/kenichi_ishigaki/2023/06/perl-toolchain-summit-2023-in-lyon.html
00:29 TR News; (NEW): PCLinuxOS Software From Yesteryear, NovelWriter, Puddletag, and Thorium Reader http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/04/PCLinuxOS_Software_From_Yesteryear_NovelWriter_Puddletag_and_Th.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/04/PCLinuxOS_Software_From_Yesteryear_NovelWriter_Puddletag_and_Th.gmi
00:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines PCLinuxOS Software From Yesteryear, NovelWriter, Puddletag, and Thorium Reader
00:29 TR News; Perl Weekly Challenge 219: Sorted Squares https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2023/05/perl-weekly-challenge-219-sorted-squares.html
00:29 TR Bot; Weekly Challenge 219: Sorted Squares | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]
00:30 TR News; Nope, it's used by Microsoft to DISTRACT from its non-stop layoffs https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/04/ai-bubble-tech-industry-outlook/?itid=pr_hybrid_experimentrandom_with_top_mostshared_2_na-ans_2
00:30 TR Bot; The AI boom is helping Silicon Valley forget its wave of layoffs - The Washington Post
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00:51 TR News; StatCounter: GNU/Linux (Including ChromeOS) Grows to 8% Market Share Worldwide | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/statcounter-gnulinux-including-chromeos-grows-to-8-market-share-worldwide/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/04/statcounter-gnulinux-including-chromeos-grows-to-8-market-share-worldwide/
00:51 TR Bot; StatCounter: GNU/Linux (Including ChromeOS) Grows to 8% Market Share Worldwide | Techrights
00:53 TR News; General Court http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/emmentaler-cannot-be-eutm-says-general.html
00:53 TR Bot; EMMENTALER cannot be an EUTM, says the General Court - The IPKat
00:53 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2305181
00:53 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
00:54 TR News; 3D trade marks http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/06/3d-trade-marks-for-string-cheese.html
00:54 TR Bot; 3D trade marks for string cheese Distinctive, yet descriptive? - The IPKat
00:55 TR News; A musical box ttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/a-musical-box-infringes-authors-moral.html
00:56 TR News; HBDH marks the anniversary of Gezi uprising, calling for expansion of revolutionary struggle https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/hbdh-marks-the-anniversary-of-gezi-uprising-calling-for-expansion-of-revolutionary-struggle-67494
00:56 TR Bot; ANF | HBDH marks the anniversary of Gezi uprising, calling for expansion of revolutionary struggle
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01:01 TR News; The U.S. writers strike began 1 month ago. Here's how it's affecting the Canadian industry https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-strike-effects-in-canada-1.6864301
01:01 TR Bot; The U.S. writers strike began 1 month ago. Here's how it's affecting the Canadian industry | CBC News
01:01 TR News; Apartheid https://www.dw.com/en/apartheid-chronicler-ernest-cole-s-photos-on-show-in-germany/a-65718511
01:01 TR Bot; chronicler Ernest Cole's photos on show in Germany DW 06/01/2023
01:02 TR News; Surveillance galore https://www.engadget.com/google-wallet-will-let-you-add-passes-by-taking-a-photo-160028725.html
01:02 TR Bot; Wallet will let you add passes by taking a photo | Engadget
01:03 TR News; Mastering is a racist word, except when Red Hat uses the word https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/unlocking-potential-edge-computing-mastering-observability-scale
01:03 TR Bot; Unlocking the potential of edge computing: Mastering observability at scale
01:04 TR News; Red Hat Satellite 6.13.1 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-6131-has-been-released
01:04 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.13.1 has been released
01:05 TR News; Sweden https://www.thelocal.se/20230603/sweden-greenlights-anti-nato-protest-despite-turkey-warning
01:05 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230603/sweden-greenlights-anti-nato-protest-despite-turkey-warning )
01:06 TR News; NATO Secretary General says he will visit Turkey soon https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/nato-secretary-general-says-he-will-visit-turkey-soon-67529
01:06 TR Bot; ANF | NATO Secretary General says he will visit Turkey soon
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01:07 TR News; Turkey obstructs, along with "Hungarian Putin" https://www.thelocal.se/20230531/us-urges-turkey-and-hungary-to-ratify-swedens-nato-membership
01:07 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230531/us-urges-turkey-and-hungary-to-ratify-swedens-nato-membership )
01:08 TR News; Friend and ally of Putin inside NATO https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/05/31/newsweek-putin-scores-a-win-in-turkeys-election/
01:08 TR Bot; Newsweek: Putin scores a win in Turkey's election - Modern Diplomacy
01:09 TR News; hrw once took a bribe from KSA https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/02/saudi-arabia-executes-two-shia-bahrainis-terrorism-charges
01:09 TR Bot; Saudi Arabia Executes Two Shia Bahrainis on Terrorism Charges | Human Rights Watch
01:10 TR News; The irony? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-best-positioned-peace-maker-israeli-palestinian-conflict-1716309
01:10 TR Bot; Saudi Arabia is best positioned to be the 'peace maker' in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
01:11 TR News; You buy oil and this is where the money goes https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/karim-benzema-receives-eyewatering-345m-offer-team-messi-saudi-arabia-1716253 https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cristiano-ronaldo-says-messi-benzema-are-welcome-saudi-arabia-1716321
01:11 TR Bot; Karim Benzema receives eyewatering 345m offer to join Ronaldo in Saudi Arabia
01:11 TR Bot; Cristiano Ronaldo says Messi, Benzema are welcome in Saudi Arabia
01:12 TR News; But what actually changed? The sportwashing? usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-05-31/italy-ends-yemen-linked-embargo-on-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia
01:13 TR News; The divide-and-rule strategy of the US not working anymore (soon they won't sell oil in USD at all) https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/02/letters-from-saudi-lawrence-in-cairos-shadows/ https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/06/04/indonesian-media-perception-of-china-after-brokering-saudi-iran-peaceful-restoration/
01:13 TR Bot; From Saudi: Lawrence in Cairo's Shadows - CounterPunch.org
01:14 TR Bot; Indonesian Media Perception of China After Brokering Saudi-Iran Peaceful Restoration - Modern Diplomacy
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01:17 AdmFubar; https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Fuel-Cells/New-Type-Of-Solar-Cell-Creates-Hydrogen-Oxygen-And-Heat.html
01:17 TR Bot; Type Of Solar Cell Creates Hydrogen, Oxygen And Heat | OilPrice.com
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01:19 TR News; Armbian 23.05 Suni https://www.armbian.com/newsflash/armbian-23-05-suni/
01:19 TR Bot; 23.05 Suni Armbian
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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01:24 TR News; (UPDATED): Armbian 23.02 out with Linux 6.1, DietPi 8.14 adds experimental RISC-V support (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/28/Armbian_23_02_out_with_Linux_6_1_DietPi_8_14_adds_experimental_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/28/Armbian_23_02_out_with_Linux_6_1_DietPi_8_14_adds_experimental_.gmi
01:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Armbian 23.02 out with Linux 6.1, DietPi 8.14 adds experimental RISC-V support (UPDATED)
01:26 TR News; Deterioration of workers' rights noted https://www.maketecheasier.com/amazon-workers-protest/
01:26 TR Bot; Amazon Workers Protest Return to Office By Walking Out - Make Tech Easier
01:27 TR News; When your employer works for Empire of Espionage https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/amazon-fine-alexa-ring-1.6862761
01:27 TR Bot; Amazon ordered to pay more than $30M for privacy violations related to Alexa, Ring devices | CBC News
01:27 TR News; Just a token fine. They still install microphones in many homes and the US accesses the audio. https://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-ring-alexa-privacy-lawsuits-ftc-30-million-1850492642
01:27 TR Bot; Amazon Will Pay FTC $31M to Settle Ring, Alexa Privacy Suits
01:28 TR News; Should people care what Amazon thinks? https://labs.ripe.net/author/neil-mather/amazon-doesnt-care-how-you-heat-swimming-pools-ict-and-ecosocialism/
01:28 TR Bot; Amazon Doesnt Care How You Heat Swimming Pools: ICT and Ecosocialism | RIPE Labs
01:29 TR News; No INDIVIDUAL in the company got punished. NOBODY held responsible. https://www.engadget.com/amazon-settles-lawsuit-with-ftc-over-ring-doorbell-privacy-concerns-191257621.html
01:29 TR Bot; settles lawsuit with FTC over Ring doorbell privacy concerns | Engadget
01:29 TR News; "Alexa privacy for kids" https://www.engadget.com/amazon-will-pay-25-million-to-settle-ftc-lawsuit-over-alexa-privacy-for-kids-193330840.html
01:29 TR Bot; will pay $25 million to settle FTC lawsuit over Alexa privacy for kids | Engadget
01:30 TR News; Settlement www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2023-05-31/us-ftc-sues-amazon-coms-ring
01:31 TR News; Silly gimmicks that convince many fools to install microphones inside their homes https://gizmodo.com/amazon-alexa-shaquille-o-neal-melissa-mccarthy-ai-1850488460
01:31 TR Bot; These Celebrity Voices Are Disappearing From Alexa
01:32 TR News; Way to the distract from the upcoming fines one day before it goes public? https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/amazons-alexa-will-no-longer-sound-like-shaquille-oneal/ https://www.engadget.com/amazon-ditches-alexa-celebrity-voices-165511851.html
01:32 TR Bot; Is Getting Rid of Celebrity 'Personalities' for Alexa: How to Score a Refund - CNET
01:32 TR Bot; ditches Alexas celebrity voices and will issue refunds upon request | Engadget
01:33 TR News; Prisons with glass and metal https://gizmodo.com/mark-zuckerberg-meta-facebook-remote-work-hybrid-1850499508
01:33 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg Mandates Meta Employees Return to the Office Three Days a Week
01:34 TR News; Judge Dismisses Washington, DC, Privacy Lawsuit Against Facebook Owner Meta www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2023-06-01/judge-dismisses-washington-dc-privacy-lawsuit-against-facebook-owner-meta
01:35 TR News; The sheer hypocrisy of Zuckerface https://gizmodo.com/facebook-meta-ftc-privacy-5-billion-settlement-changes-1850493451
01:35 TR Bot; Facebook Wants to Block FTC Changes to $5B Privacy Settlement
01:35 TR News; Bluff https://gizmodo.com/facebook-instagram-google-california-block-news-links-1850492681
01:35 TR Bot; Facebook Threatens to Block News Links in California Over Bill
01:39 TR News; (NEW): New Episodes and Videos: The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and YouTube http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/New_Episodes_and_Videos_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_FLOSS_Weekly_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/New_Episodes_and_Videos_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_FLOSS_Weekly_a.gmi
01:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines New Episodes and Videos: The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and YouTube
01:39 TR News; (NEW): TrueNAS 13.0-U5 Maximizes Quality and your Storage Experience http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/TrueNAS_13_0_U5_Maximizes_Quality_and_your_Storage_Experience.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/TrueNAS_13_0_U5_Maximizes_Quality_and_your_Storage_Experience.gmi
01:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines TrueNAS 13.0-U5 Maximizes Quality and your Storage Experience
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02:06 TR News; Telling history is a crime https://www.dw.com/en/hong-kong-8-held-on-eve-of-tiananmen-square-anniversary/a-65817149
02:06 TR Bot; Kong: 8 held on eve of Tiananmen Square anniversary DW 06/03/2023
02:10 TR News; Calling out criminals is a crime? https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-is-erasing-hong-kong-s-tiananmen-square-memories/a-65802219
02:10 TR Bot; China is erasing Hong Kong's Tiananmen Square memories DW 06/03/2023
02:11 TR News; More deadly than a plane crash https://www.dw.com/en/india-over-280-dead-in-massive-train-crash/a-65811611
02:12 TR Bot; More than 280 dead in massive train crash DW 06/03/2023
02:13 TR News; Politicians... like Erdogan after earthquakes, posing as national hero https://www.dw.com/en/india-s-modi-no-stone-unturned-in-train-crash-probe/a-65816580
02:13 TR Bot; Modi: 'No stone unturned' in train crash probe DW 06/03/2023
02:13 TR News; Portraying the left as the real threat https://www.dw.com/en/left-wing-extremism-in-germany-how-much-of-a-threat-is-it/a-65807817
02:13 TR Bot; extremism in Germany: How much of a threat is it? DW 06/03/2023
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02:15 TR News; Don't pay this fraud https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-blue-8-dollars-things-we-bought-1850496025
02:15 TR Bot; Things We Bought Instead of Giving Elon $8
02:15 TR News; Even his own staff cannot stand him usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2023-06-03/twitter-executive-responsible-for-content-safety-resigns-after-elon-musk-criticism
02:16 TR News; He grew rich from putting people in MINES. What does he know about safety anyway? https://gizmodo.com/twitter-ella-irwin-resigns-trust-safety-head-elon-musk-1850500034
02:16 TR Bot; Elon Musk's Twitter Loses Second Trust, Safety Head Ella Irwin
02:16 TR News; Good for her https://www.engadget.com/twitters-head-of-brand-safety-and-ad-quality-has-left-the-company-191401704.html
02:16 TR Bot; head of brand safety and ad quality has left the company | Engadget
02:17 TR News; Social control media gravitates in this direction https://www.maketecheasier.com/twitter-head-of-trust-and-safety-resigned/
02:17 TR Bot; Twitter Head of Trust and Safety Resigned Before New CEO Comes In - Make Tech Easier
02:17 TR News; Richest by what standard? STOCKS? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-china-twitter-worlds-richest-tesla-1850494960
02:17 TR Bot; Elon Doesn't Tweet for 2 Days, Regains Status as World's Richest Man
02:18 TR News; The real purpose of Twitter now? Promoting SCAMS and DeSantis? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-crypto-dogecoin-twitter-snl-1850497430
02:18 TR Bot; Elon 'The Dogefather' Musk Accused of Insider Trading
02:18 TR News; Shadowbanning https://gizmodo.com/instagram-account-ban-shadowban-adam-mosseri-twitteri-1850495774
02:18 TR Bot; Instagram Sheds Light on Shadowbanning,' Ranking Algorithms
02:19 TR News; Twitter has more "miners" https://gizmodo.com/ai-art-images-twitter-community-notes-fact-check-1850491085
02:19 TR Bot; Twitter's to Rely on Crowdsourced Notes to Fact-Check AI Images
02:19 TR News; It was worth even less than that a year ago https://gizmodo.com/fidelity-elon-musk-twitter-44-billion-value-1850488895
02:19 TR Bot; Fidelity: Twitter is Only Worth a Third of What Elon Musk Paid for It
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 TR News; While Dutch politicians STILL (mis)use Twitter? https://nltimes.nl/2023/05/31/dutch-parliament-leader-demands-twitter-take-action-threats-targeting-politicians
02:20 TR Bot; Dutch parliament leader demands Twitter take action against threats targeting politicians | NL Times
02:21 TR News; Be like Ruben. STOP "tweeting" https://rubenerd.com/turning-off-twitter-auto-posting/
02:21 TR Bot; No more @Rubenerd_Blog Twitter posts
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02:24 TR News; Siege Perilous? gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2023-06-05_Siege_Perilous_.gmi
02:24 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D939.jpg
02:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Inflation hit the sauerkraut.
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02:25 schestowitz[TR]; vdid it?
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; *did
02:25 DaemonFC; It used to be 86 cents a can in 2020.
02:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D613.jpg
02:25 DaemonFC; Now this brand is $1.14
02:25 DaemonFC; Things you notice. :)
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; i try to avoid grocery stores
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; yesterdasy i hauled over 16 cartons of hazxelnut drink
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; about 110 noodle packs
02:26 DaemonFC; Mandy had never had sauerkraut.
02:26 DaemonFC; He thought I put out horseradish.
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; you compare to 2020
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; you name an item that rose not much in price
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; in 3 years
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; last month i went to about 20 stores
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; and assessed all the prices of things i was interested in
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; soap, toothpaste, coffee
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; some things DOUBLED in price
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; in 2 years or 1 year
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's not pretty
02:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That's more than 32% for a can of sauerkraut in three years.
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; i checked if some shops let you escape greedflation
02:28 DaemonFC; 10.66% averaged out per year.
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; the new "standard" for colgate here is now 75ml
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; 125ml became 100ml
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; now 76ml
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; *756
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; they experimented with that a year ago
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; now it's normal
02:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I remember when a loaf of bread at the store (not even Walmart, the grocery store!) was 50 cents.
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; the low-end ones are 75ml
02:28 DaemonFC; That was back in 1992 or so.
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; bread got expernsive
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; but worse
02:28 DaemonFC; They disguise the inflation.
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; when they discount these it's about 10%
02:29 DaemonFC; The loaf of bread in 1992 was also 26 ounces.
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; they used to lower the price 30%-90% on last dat
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; rianne saw SPAR selling some with MOLD in it
02:29 DaemonFC; Now they have these little 20 ounce loaves of store bread at Walmart for $1.88.
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; overdue
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; and they still sold it
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; expired WITH MOLD!
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; pita bread, iirc
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; biab
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; finishing daily links and gemini links
02:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], These new loaves are hard to even make a proper sandwich out of.
02:30 DaemonFC; 24 ounces was the "standard" up until a couple years ago for a loaf of bread.
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; buckwheat pays off
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; better than bread anyway
02:30 DaemonFC; Now only "premium bread" is still above 24.
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; will cook some later today
02:33 TR News; Gemini Links 04/06/2023: Wayland and the Old Computer Challenge | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/old-computer-challenge/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/04/old-computer-challenge/
02:33 TR Bot; Gemini Links 04/06/2023: Wayland and the Old Computer Challenge | Techrights
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-040623.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-040623.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-040623.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-040623.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 04, 2023
02:37 XRevan86; "Twitter is Only Worth a Third of What Elon Musk Paid for It" <- But once he renames it to ~Joseon~ X, it's going to be all worth it.
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 04, 2023
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 04, 2023
02:40 AdmFubar; https://slate.com/technology/2023/05/ai-regulation-open-source-meta.html
02:40 TR Bot; Meta LLaMA: How the open-source community is changing artificial intelligence.
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 04, 2023
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-06-04.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-06-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:44 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 4th, 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_June_4th_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_June_4th_2023.gmi
02:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 4th, 2023
02:45 TR News; Links 04/06/2023: Unifont 15.0.05 and PCLinuxOS Stuff | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/pclinuxos-stuff/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/04/pclinuxos-stuff/
02:45 TR Bot; Links 04/06/2023: Unifont 15.0.05 and PCLinuxOS Stuff | Techrights
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03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Security_Leftovers.gmi
03:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
03:21 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
03:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
03:21 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_howtos.gmi
03:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
03:21 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_leftovers.gmi
03:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
03:22 TR News; It seems mutual https://www.dw.com/en/us-defense-chief-slams-china-over-rejected-military-talks/a-65813554
03:22 TR Bot; defense chief slams China over rejected military talks DW 06/03/2023
03:24 TR News; Prices for imports https://www.dw.com/en/germany-prices-for-imports-decreased-drastically/a-65776540
03:24 TR Bot; Prices for imports decreased drastically DW 05/31/2023
03:25 TR News; But price remain high. No correction for the surges. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-may-inflation-rate-drops-to-6-1/a-65781910
03:25 TR Bot; May inflation rate drops to 6.1% DW 05/31/2023
03:26 TR News; Fakecoin and "bad faith" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/cryptocurrency-exchange-platform.html
03:26 TR Bot; Cryptocurrency exchange platform Coinbase wins trade mark bad faith battle before EU General Court - The IPKat
03:26 TR News; Is an inverted cow vegan? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/is-inverted-cow-vegan.html
03:26 TR Bot; Is an inverted cow vegan? - The IPKat
03:27 TR News; European Perspective or LAWYERS' perspective? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/us-supreme-court-decision-in-amgen-v.html
03:27 TR Bot; US Supreme Court decision in Amgen v Sanofi: The European Perspective - The IPKat
03:30 TR News; The S in BRICS https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/06/02/brics-fm-meeting-in-south-africa-readiness-for-expansion/
03:30 TR Bot; BRICS FM Meeting in South Africa: Readiness for Expansion - Modern Diplomacy
03:31 TR News; Ripoff https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/meta-verification-canada-1.6860604
03:31 TR Bot; Meta launches paid verification system for Canadian users | CBC News
03:32 TR News; People who do not wish to associate with Misinformation/Disinformation of other people on the same platform can just use their own Web sites
03:33 TR News; Suncor https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bakx-suncor-jobs-layoffs-1.6862758
03:33 TR Bot; Suncor to slash 1,500 jobs amid cost-cutting plan | CBC News
03:34 TR News; Proprietary software for sure https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-outage-1.6861923
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03:34 AdmFubar; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=u6wKB7QhqIU
03:34 TR Bot; Air Canada flight communicator system breaks down, causing widespread delays | CBC News
03:34 TR Bot; La Fontaine aux Oiseaux - Invidious
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: nice
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; massive project
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; no system updates required
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; just a crank
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/u6wKB7QhqIU?t=364
03:37 TR Bot; La Fontaine aux Oiseaux - Invidious
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03:38 TR News; Just don't add MOAR cars https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/parking-urban-planning-1.6862522 plant trees maybe...
03:38 TR Bot; Canada has way more parking than cars. Is it time for that to change? | CBC Radio
03:40 TR News; Little Mermaid http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/06/guest-post-third-times-charm-little.html
03:40 TR Bot; [Guest Post] Third times a charm: The Little Mermaid and a big win for satire and freedom of speech - The IPKat
03:41 TR News; Pakistan has not only nukes https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/06/04/nuclear-energy-pakistans-economic-development/
03:41 TR Bot; Nuclear Energy & Pakistans Economic Development - Modern Diplomacy
03:41 TR News; Majority of British business owners alarmed by soaring energy bills, survey reveals https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/majority-british-business-owners-alarmed-soaring-energy-bills-survey-reveals-1716222
03:41 TR Bot; Majority of British business owners alarmed by soaring energy bills, survey reveals
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03:49 TR News; Reliance on China https://nltimes.nl/2023/05/29/europes-energy-transition-impossible-without-china-dutch-minister-says
03:49 TR Bot; Europe's energy transition impossible without China, Dutch Minister says | NL Times
03:49 TR News; Polluting the Grand Canyon https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/05/30/polluting-the-grand-canyon-for-clean-energy/
03:49 TR Bot; the Grand Canyon for Clean Energy - CounterPunch.org
03:50 TR News; Strategic Partnership Opportunities among ASEAN countries towards Renewable Energy https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/05/31/strategic-partnership-opportunities-among-asean-countries-towards-renewable-energy/
03:50 TR Bot; Strategic Partnership Opportunities among ASEAN countries towards Renewable Energy - Modern Diplomacy
03:52 TR News; EVs are not green. 1) they need electricity (rarely comes from solar!). 2) they demand elimination of old cars, which in itself is a form is land pollution. 3) they call for production of more new cars, i.e. mining, shipping, welding, and lots more. Sometimes fixing and recycling is the greenest option.
03:52 TR News; greenashing: MAKE MORE PURCHASES... to SAVE THE PLANET
03:55 TR News; Five banks under CMA Investigation for breaching UK competitive bonds law https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/five-banks-under-cma-investigation-breaching-uk-competitive-bonds-law-1716327
03:55 TR Bot; Five banks under CMA Investigation for breaching UK competitive bonds law
03:55 TR News; Everything as a bank? https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/01/how-the-post-office-could-bring-people-centered-public-banking-to-every-zip-code/
03:55 TR Bot; the Post Office Could Bring People-Centered Public Banking to Every ZIP Code - CounterPunch.org
03:56 TR News; PwC also aided EPO crimes and it's where Sheela Zemlin, the runaway fraudster, ceame from https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/australiansuper-freezes-future-contracts-with-pwc-20230602-p5ddgc.html
03:56 TR Bot; PwC scandal: AustralianSuper freezes future contracts with the embattled accounting firm
03:58 TR News; 'Judge' (not anymore) Michel continues to disgrace CAFC. Are judges becoming lobbyists for billionaires https://www.patentdocs.org/2023/05/can-judge-michel-and-john-duffy-convince-the-supreme-court-to-revisit-subject-matter-eligibility.html
03:58 TR Bot; Patent Docs: Can Judge Michel and John Duffy Convince the Supreme Court to Revisit Subject Matter Eligibility?
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04:00 TR News; Microsoft Florian, a vile lobbyist, still attacking nations for not pleasing his corrupt masters http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/05/cmas-appalling-stalling-cant-prevent.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Florian_M%C3%BCller
04:00 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: CMA's appalling stalling can't prevent courtroom disaster, reinforces 'closed for business' narrative -- Justice Marcus Smith moves forward swiftly and is unconvinced of agency's market definition
04:00 TR Bot; Florian Mller - Techrights
04:02 TR News; This is an illegal and unconstitutional kangaroo court that contributes to the perception of the European Union facilitating corruption by entities outside Europe and by special interest groups http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/inauguration-of-unified-patent-court.html
04:02 TR Bot; Inauguration of Unified Patent Court held today in Luxembourg - The IPKat
04:03 TR News; US regime blackmailing nations into obeying the will of American corporations everywhere on the planet. What if China and Russia made similar demands from 200+ nations? https://www.patentdocs.org/2023/05/us-trade-representative-releases-2023-special-301-report.html
04:03 TR Bot; Patent Docs: U.S. Trade Representative Releases 2023 Special 301 Report
04:04 TR News; (NEW): Review: GetFreeOS 2023.05.01, Slint 15.0-3, Liya N4Si http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Review_GetFreeOS_2023_05_01_Slint_15_0_3_Liya_N4Si.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Review_GetFreeOS_2023_05_01_Slint_15_0_3_Liya_N4Si.gmi
04:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: GetFreeOS 2023.05.01, Slint 15.0-3, Liya N4Si
04:04 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/0
04:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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04:06 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, June 04, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:07 TR News; Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt
04:07 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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04:17 TR News; "The IBM Borg Collective says resistance is futile!!!! secret memo describes discussions between Arvind and Hicks Red Hat is IBM and will be expected to act like it No more Raleigh Hippie Commune living!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mWfoct9 way to get people to RESIGN without LAYOFFS announced
04:17 TR Bot; Red Hat RTO Return to Office is NEXT on the IBM agenda - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:17 TR News; "Disband the cult of Red Hat, or else!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mWfoct9#replies
04:17 TR Bot; Red Hat RTO Return to Office is NEXT on the IBM agenda - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:18 TR News; "If AI/ ML is so great lets replace flunkies like Hicks Nash Dudeck ALL C-\Suite" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mPV41Lh
04:18 TR Bot; Heres an idea about AI/ ML - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:19 TR News; "Communication about layoffs is very poor. Why is that? Despite everything, I expected little more transparency." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mNAWGWf
04:19 TR Bot; Terrible communication - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:19 TR News; ICBM has placed some kind of formal or informal gag order on the shutdown of OPENSOURCE.COM
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 TR News; ICBM master, slave. hypocrisy https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/13/kyndryl_ibm_sued_discrimination/
04:20 TR Bot; Kyndryl, IBM sued for age discrimination by former director The Register
04:20 TR News; "The majority will be US employees They are the most expensive and the least protected" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mKRLyqX
04:20 TR Bot; The hammer drops this week for Red Hat - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:21 TR News; "P.s. Could they have done all the paperwork and then announce the layoff so people didn't have to wait? Yes. They didn't do it because they are id--ts. HR in RH is notoriously incompetent." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mKRLyqX
04:21 TR News; "Thursday is D-Day. Leave your Hat at the door it's IBM property." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mKRLyqX
04:22 TR News; "About a month ago, my boss along with my colleagues was singing praises about how crucial I was for the upcoming projects. My boss even said that my contributions were going to be so important for the success of the team. And then, out of nowhere, I was told that my position was no longer needed. Don't trust your managers, people. They'll lie in a heartbeat." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mu0wrLo
04:22 TR Bot; Don't trust your boss - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
04:25 TR News; A lot of people who shout out the minorities must be "protected" conveniently attack other minorities, calling for them to be banned, assassinated etc. Hypocrisies like these have no resolution except ignore...
04:27 TR News; Besides, one country's majority is another country's minority, so it's rather meaningless. Even within a country itself, e.g. women are a majority, more so in domains like nursing, but minority in STEM. The word "minority" is very loosely defined and it has become a tribalism method.
04:28 TR News; Instead of saying "we need to improve payment/rights to women" or "to minorities" (whatever that is; everyone is unique in some regard) we should unite and demand "improved rights and payment to WORKERS". Rich is not a gender or an ethnicity, it's connected to class.
04:30 TR News; One way to destroy public interest organisations is to compel them to divide their target audience and cater to some subsection of the population based on superficial lines. Surveillance and privacy, for instance, are not a gender issue.
04:31 TR News; Even the patent lobby seems to have turned its propaganda into gendered distraction, such as "women in IP"; so instead of talking about how evil monopolies can be we end up talking about highly sensitive topics. Nobody wants to accidentally offend anyone.
04:33 TR News; Red Hat is being quietly vandalised by ICBM. Slowly, on small fire. And workers aren't allowed to speak about it (without severe financial consequences). Sort of like Microsoft NDAs, except ICBM probably 'taught' Microsoft these tricks.
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04:34 TR News; Don't let ICBM take past secrets into the grave http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ ICBM is a censorship company, too (check what regime it is working for worldwide)
04:34 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
04:35 TR News; Mark Shuttleworth has managed to associate the work "ubuntu" with corporate greed http://techrights.org/2023/05/30/mark-shuttleworth-microsoft/
04:36 TR Bot; MS (Mark Shuttleworth) as a Microsoft Salesperson | Techrights
04:36 TR News; (s/work/word)
04:37 TR News; BSD distros are not the solution to corporate takeover of Linux, the kernel. The bigger BSDs have or will have the same issue. The key is, convince developers to reject the takeover and obstruct it.
04:38 TR News; Jim AllowHurst made himself by selling Red Hat to the hyenas, just like James Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft. Has a warrant been issue for the arrest of Sheela yet? Is she protected because she has Harvard connections?
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04:41 TR News; Businesses that only care about money lose sight of the fact that clients don't care about whether the supplier makes a lot of money or not. They just want a reliable supplier. What ICBM is doing to Red Hat will eventually cost ICBM too. It's a highly incompetent company that's sucking in taxpayers' money worldwide in order to survive.
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04:44 TR News; The smarter [sic] circuitry on mice and keyboards becomes, the costlier it'll be to get peripherals, even if the essential patents have all expired already. It's more about price-fixing than necessities. Pieces of plastic and rubber, sold for 100 times the cost of the materials.
04:45 TR News; ZoomInfo announces global workforce reduction of 3%: Report https://www.livemint.com/news/india/zoominfo-announces-global-workforce-reduction-of-3-report-11685935059724.html
04:45 TR Bot; ZoomInfo announces global workforce reduction of 3%: Report | Mint
04:51 TR News; Linus Torvalds afraid of the F word, freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gooHzpA9afE
04:51 TR Bot; Uncovering the Surprising Influence of Open Source on Technology | Linus Torvalds - Invidious
04:51 XRevan86; https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/04/us/southwest-virginia-aircraft-crash/index.html
04:51 TR Bot; US fighter jets responded to an aircraft with an unresponsive pilot near DC. The aircraft ultimately crashed in Virginia | CNN
04:53 TR News; Keith Bergelt promoting patents under the guise of "protection"; NOT the real solution https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kzM40C_mgNY
04:53 TR Bot; How Far Will Open Source Innovation Go and What It Means for Patent Non-Aggression - Keith Bergelt - Invidious
04:58 TR News; OIN CEO: patent monetisation is OK with me. Check which company he CAME from and what he DID there. https://yewtu.be/kzM40C_mgNY?t=1713
04:58 TR Bot; How Far Will Open Source Innovation Go and What It Means for Patent Non-Aggression - Keith Bergelt - Invidious
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05:03 TR News; In tech, patent trolls are now 88% of all lawsuits https://yewtu.be/kzM40C_mgNY?t=2185
05:03 TR Bot; How Far Will Open Source Innovation Go and What It Means for Patent Non-Aggression - Keith Bergelt - Invidious
05:07 TR News; Jim Zemlin got COVID https://yewtu.be/ejJUUAHnp8M?t=39 turns out those vaccines he kept shilling for $ did not protect him
05:07 TR Bot; Keynote: Welcome & Opening Remarks - Jim Zemlin, Executive Director, The Linux Foundation - Invidious
05:08 TR News; TikTok SPAM in Canadian media? Does it get paid for this? https://www.cbc.ca/radio/menopause-tiktok-1.6861886
05:08 TR Bot; 'Meno TikTok' heats up as women seek better perimenopause info on social networks | CBC Radio
05:08 TR News; TikTok Backlash https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-sarah-stusek-three-rivers-goodreads-backlash-1850498236
05:08 TR Bot; Sarah Stusek's 'Three Rivers' Dropped After TikTok Backlash
05:09 TR News; Nothing to see here, move along? https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/05/30/tiktok-creators-data-security-china/
05:09 TR Bot; TikTok Creators Sensitive Financial Information Stored In China
05:11 TR News; Authoritative book on Open Source co-written by... MICROSOFT. Now promoted by Zemlin. https://yewtu.be/ejJUUAHnp8M?t=254
05:11 TR Bot; Keynote: Welcome & Opening Remarks - Jim Zemlin, Executive Director, The Linux Foundation - Invidious
05:12 TR News; "professionalism" is now code word for "self-censorship" and restraint against corporation abuse being mentioned https://yewtu.be/ejJUUAHnp8M?t=275
05:12 TR Bot; Keynote: Welcome & Opening Remarks - Jim Zemlin, Executive Director, The Linux Foundation - Invidious
05:14 TR News; Why did SentinelOne shares plummet by 35% in a single day? https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/bjsxe0yin
05:14 TR Bot; Why did SentinelOne shares plummet by 35% in a single day? | Ctech
05:18 TR News; Moscow https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/how-dare-you-moscow-drone-attack-exposes-vulnerabilities-angers-russia-s-hawks-20230531-p5dcmu.html
05:18 TR Bot; Russia-Ukraine war: Moscow drone attack angers Russias hawks
05:19 TR News; Weaponising marine life https://gizmodo.com/russia-spy-whale-vladimir-putin-1850486517
05:19 TR Bot; Russia's Alleged Spy Whale Has Resurfaced Off the Coast of Sweden
05:19 TR News; Germany orders closure of 4 out of 5 Russian consulates https://www.dw.com/en/germany-orders-closure-of-4-out-of-5-russian-consulates/a-65782164
05:19 TR Bot; orders closure of 4 out of 5 Russian consulates DW 05/31/2023
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:25 TR News; nixos Release 23.05 (Stoat, 2023.05/31) https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/unstable/release-notes.html#sec-release-23.05
05:25 TR Bot; NixOS 23.11 manual | Nix & NixOS
05:26 TR News; OIN and 'Linux' Foundation are corporate front groups. It's not that they're NOT activist orgs, it's that their conduct is actively hostile towards communities and activists. They bypass people, profit from helping corporations silence people.
05:31 TR News; 10 days after the OFFICIAL 'Linux' Foundation channel uploaded the official opening talk from Jim Zemlin to YouTube... only 20 views, i.e. average of 2 per day. Maybe 'Linux' Foundation should ask Spamnil who he is paying for YouTube CLICKFRAUD (to LOOK popular).
05:32 TR News; Yet ANOTHER failing product... and layoffs https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-is-killing-the-standalone-cortana-app-for-windows-in-late-2023-142437631.html
05:32 TR Bot; is killing the standalone Cortana app for Windows in late 2023 | Engadget
05:33 TR News; Misinformation such as this by far predates this superficial HEY HY hype https://www.vox.com/technology/23746060/ai-generative-fake-images-photoshop-google-microsoft-adobe
↺ https://www.vox.com/technology/23746060/ai-generative-fake-images-photoshop-google-microsoft-adobe
05:33 TR Bot; Google, Microsoft, and Adobe are trying to stop AI from flooding the internet with garbage - Vox
05:34 TR News; Microsoft Florian keeps shilling the monopoly for a salary by attacking those who obstruct monopolies; how grotesque http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/06/make-games-not-war-protecting.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Florian_M%C3%BCller
05:34 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Make games not war: protecting competition & markets would preserve the CMA's authority after its outlier ruling on Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard
05:34 TR Bot; Florian Mller - Techrights
05:35 TR News; XBox is failing https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-was-reportedly-hands-off-with-xbox-dud-redfall-201436340.html see http://techrights.org/2023/05/06/xbox-sales-really-bad/
05:35 TR Bot; was reportedly hands-off with Xbox dud Redfall | Engadget
05:35 TR Bot; Why Microsoft Was Trying to Buy Activision and Look Big in 2022 (XBox Was Failing, XBox as a Whole Might Die Soon) | Techrights
05:37 TR News; But Microsoft puts back/bug doors in everything for the NSA https://www.maketecheasier.com/microsoft-finds-exploit-leaves-mac-vulnerable/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
05:37 TR Bot; Microsoft Finds Exploit That Leaves Mac Vulnerable - Make Tech Easier
05:37 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
05:37 TR News; CNET became a spamfarm. This is spam disguised (poorly) as "news article" https://www.cnet.com/deals/last-chance-30-office-2021-lifetime-license-deal/
05:37 TR Bot; Today: Snag a $30 Microsoft Office 2021 Lifetime License - CNET
05:40 TR News; <li><h5><a href=""></a></h5>
05:40 TR News; Buzzwords aren't an "existential threat". Climate change and nukes are.
05:41 TR News; Many people still pay PREMIUM for such trash https://www.engadget.com/us-judge-grants-final-approval-to-apples-50-million-butterfly-keyboard-settlement-141223797.html
05:41 TR Bot; judge grants final approval to Apples $50 million butterfly keyboard settlement | Engadget
05:42 TR News; Nukes are likely to kill them before climate gets to them https://www.dw.com/en/europe-grapples-with-last-generation-climate-protests/a-65757932
05:42 TR Bot; grapples with Last Generation climate protests DW 05/28/2023
05:43 TR News; Way to distract from bad news https://gizmodo.com/apple-wwdc-macbook-air-pro-m2-m3-chip-laptop-new-15-inc-1850490787
05:43 TR Bot; Apple Could Announce Several New Macs at WWDC After Months of Sluggish Sales
05:44 TR News; So Apple tells investors "METAVERSE" is THE FUTURE... without using that term. Failing that, HEY HI hype?
05:52 TR News; There are many kinds of trash on the Web. Not everything is CG or SPAM per se. A lot is sponsored garbage, but the effect is the same. Not journalism, just deception and time-wasting at best.
05:52 TR News; Today's WWW without some decent curation is really poor use of space and time.
05:54 TR News; CHATBOTS are NOT a risk to the Web any more than the older methods, e.g. sites that take some articles in Russian or German, then pass them through AUTOMATED translations to create fake 'new' articles. It's like plagiarism with benefit sof the doubt on 'Fair Use'.
05:55 TR News; Jim Zemlin looks like he aged 20 years in just 10 years. Who's wearing the pants there?
05:56 TR News; How Zemlin PAC turns once-decent GNU/Linux sites... into SPAM https://linuxstans.com/linux-foundation-coupon-codes/
05:56 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Coupon Codes - Linux Stans
05:58 TR News; linux.com was hijacked by LF staff who, instead of promoting LINUX, shill LF sponsors (proprietary) https://www.linux.com/news/the-linux-foundations-opi-project-announces-arm-as-premier-member/ https://www.linux.com/news/this-years-embedded-open-source-summit-should-not-be-missed/
05:58 TR Bot; Linux Foundation's OPI Project Announces Arm as Premier Member - Linux.com
05:58 TR Bot; Years Embedded Open Source Summit Should NOT Be Missed! - Linux.com
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:00 TR News; Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like KSA speaking for women and human rights in the UN
06:01 mjg59_; 05:59 < techrights-news> Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women
06:01 mjg59_; Fucking transphobe
06:01 schestowitz[TR]; you are
06:02 mjg59_; Strong argument!
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
06:02 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; oops, multi paste (barrier)
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; women dont' like that
06:02 mjg59_; But kind of weakened by me not having said anything transphobic in a long time and you saying transphobic stuff a lot of the time
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; because they need someone who understands their issues
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; same for zemlin
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; who doesn't know much about Linux
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; but is pretending for profit
06:03 DaemonFC; These sweet tart gummies Mandy got at work taste like windex.
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; what's windex?
06:05 DaemonFC; A glass cleaner.
06:05 DaemonFC; They don't have it there?
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; let me check
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; we still need to find some windows lubricants
06:06 DaemonFC; ?
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; for the locking mechanisms
06:06 DaemonFC; What for? Hinges?
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; with a straw
06:06 DaemonFC; You can try silicone spray.
06:06 DaemonFC; If that doesn't work for you maybe some white lithium grease.
06:06 DaemonFC; That's more durable but it makes a mess to wipe up.
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; if i search for windex I get:
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; Tesco Sticky Index Markers 100 Sheet 5 Pack
06:06 schestowitz[TR]; Tesco Sticky Notes And Index Tabs
06:07 schestowitz[TR]; in sainsburys nothing
06:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I got some silicone spray for the car this evening.
06:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://groceries.asda.com/search/windex
06:08 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:08 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Have you said "Trans women shouldn't speak for women" to any of your trans friends?
06:08 schestowitz[TR]; seems like it's not a "thing" in the UK
06:08 DaemonFC; If your windows are slowing down and sound kind of pathetic, you can try sticking the straw down the rubber tracks and lubricating those with silicone now and then.
06:08 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Do you think that's something Ariadne would respond positively to?
06:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Windex is basically synonymous with glass cleaner in the US.
06:08 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you are making up a quote
06:08 DaemonFC; There's a million generic "blue glass cleaners", but they tend to streak.
06:09 Ariadne; mjg59_: it would depend on the context
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: your partner does not speak for me either
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; because isis does not understand some issues I have
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; and men would not respond to it well
06:09 DaemonFC; mjg59_ reminds me more of John than he does of me.
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; like, if the subject was testicular cancer
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; or prostate
06:09 schestowitz[TR]; that alone was the context
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; I notes a new speech from zemlin easier
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; *earlier
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; he never even uses Linux
06:10 DaemonFC; The prostate is sort of a double edged sword.
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; as you yourself ranted
06:10 mjg59_; Ariadne: It was "Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women"
06:10 DaemonFC; Cancer or enlargement eventually.
06:10 DaemonFC; If you're lucky you'll live to get old and it'll just annoy you by making you go to the bathroom too much.
06:10 schestowitz[TR]; the analogy stands
06:10 DaemonFC; There's pills for that.
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; even if it's not convenient
06:11 Ariadne; well, i must admit i don't like being compared to Zemlin
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; i didn't even write it here
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; I compared him to KSA
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; and women's rights
06:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mom's landlord is barely a man anymore.
06:11 schestowitz[TR]; because the analogy seemed sensitive
06:11 DaemonFC; They had to take his balls and his prostate for medical reasons iirc.
06:11 DaemonFC; "This beats dying by about yay much."
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; it's like zionism that calls jews self-hating
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; if they don't accept everything they believe in
06:12 schestowitz[TR]; or christians with abortion
06:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The worst thing about the Jews....
06:13 DaemonFC; Is that they don't appreciate everything Trump did for them.
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; oh noes, ,jew jokes
06:13 DaemonFC; According to Trump.
06:13 DaemonFC; :)
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; his supporters LOVE jews
06:13 DaemonFC; Famous for it!
06:13 Ariadne; at any rate, i try to stick towards speaking about my own experiences. and my own experiences are unique. i'm skeptical of anyone claiming to speak for any whole group
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; they even storm synagogue
06:14 DaemonFC; Trump, who has Hitler speeches in the night stand, starting a sentence with "The worst thing about the Jews is...."
06:14 DaemonFC; This is gonna be good.
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; beeecause someone latinos coming to the US is the faulty of "the jews"
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; *somehow *fault
06:14 Ariadne; there are many cases, however, where the experiences of trans women are basically identical to those of cisgender women
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: np, the context was
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; he said liberal jews were the issue
06:15 DaemonFC; I think we ought to take them and send all these black criminals to Mexico.
06:15 DaemonFC; I mean really, what are they going to do to stop us?
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; because they didn't like the republican jews' agenda
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; like moving an embassy to jerusalem
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; there's a reason almost all the embassies are in tel aviv
06:15 DaemonFC; If you think about it, sending the black criminals (in the news every night so don't even argue otherwise) to Mexico makes a lot of sense.
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06:15 schestowitz[TR]; but he made this awful caricature
06:15 DaemonFC; They can get into shoot outs with the cartel down there.
06:16 DaemonFC; No matter who gains the upper hand eventually, who care?
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; that would foster more antisemitism
06:16 Ariadne; as a non-zionist jew, i have Opinions(tm) on this conversation :D
06:16 DaemonFC; *cares
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's like hitler, "i love juice"
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; and trump then uses dog whistles
06:16 Ariadne; it's all colonialism at the end of the day, as far as i am concerned
06:16 DaemonFC; I'm not strongly opinionated about "the Jews".
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jack-smith-trump-antisemitism/
06:16 TR Bot; Donald Trump Sinks to a New Low by Dog-Whistling an Old Racist Tune | The Nation
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; "Insinuating that special prosecutor Jack Smith changed his name might seem like an odd tactic for someone whose family name was Drumpfunless you know the history.
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; "
06:16 DaemonFC; They're not the ones trying to saw off my catalytic converter and masturbating in my trash can.
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; Now he wants to "sniff out" Jews with "fake" names
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; or surnames
06:17 DaemonFC; At least I don't think the masturbator in my trash can was a Jew.
06:17 Ariadne; anyway re:
06:17 Ariadne; 10:14 PM <Ariadne> there are many cases, however, where the experiences of trans women are basically identical to those of cisgender women
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; next thing you know he starts calling them "kikkles"
06:17 DaemonFC; I don't have many good memories since moving to Chicago.
06:18 DaemonFC; Joy (the horrible landlord) cleaning out a trash can where someone took a shit in it and finding a condom is vivid.
06:18 DaemonFC; See why people love that city so much
06:18 Ariadne; with the part that i find skepticism toward anyone claiming to individually speak on behalf of any group, i think that there are a lot of issues (such as discrimination) where trans women are equivalently qualified.
06:18 DaemonFC; ?
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, I did not mentoion trans here
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; I uses KSA
06:18 DaemonFC; You wonder who takes a dump in an alley and bothers to take a dump in a 55 gallon trash can.
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like KSA speaking for women and human rights in the UN
06:19 DaemonFC; Don't you have to go through more effort?
06:19 Ariadne; i don't think it is /that/ bad
06:19 DaemonFC; Especially since 55 gallons is a large trash can.
06:19 schestowitz[TR]; after allegedly doxxing me to my employer gulagboy is just trying to harm me any other way
06:19 DaemonFC; That did manage to impress me.
06:19 Ariadne; i mean, don't get me wrong, i have plenty of things i can say about Zemlin that are not very nice :))
06:19 schestowitz[TR]; alsom sending me threats, which rianne opens (envelopes)
06:19 schestowitz[TR]; because DaemonFC "insulted" him
06:19 schestowitz[TR]; he should amil his love letetr to DaemonFC
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Maybe he ran out of things to spend money on.
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; *mail *letter
06:20 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Ever consider a time share? Or a Buick?
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, people who earn that much don't know what to do with the money
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; he said in the letter he struggled to find a job
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; because people saw he was a phony
06:20 Ariadne; tbf time shares can actually be a good value
06:20 DaemonFC; I would have posted the letter and let the Web see what a creep he is.
06:20 Ariadne; if you get the right one anyway
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; so he wants to scare me into not criticising what he did
06:20 DaemonFC; With the part admitting nobody wants to hire him HIGHLIGHTED.
06:20 schestowitz[TR]; notably what Torvalds too blaasted him for
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: did you also send lawyer letters to Torvalds?
06:21 Ariadne; was that the "if red hat wants to fellate microsoft, it's none of my business" thread ?
06:21 DaemonFC; I suppose especially after whatever happened to send him packing at Google.
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I can post it
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; if you want
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; i think i have the PDF
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, he does allude to you
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; like I'm responsible to you
06:21 schestowitz[TR]; i never met you and we don't even agree on many things
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; like your racism and stuff
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; he's just trying to sabotage this platform, so he's stalking irc
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; and rianne says it's him who doxed her to her employer
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; such a nice feminist this mjg59_ is...
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; attacking innocent women
06:22 DaemonFC; It would be pretty funny to just take a highlighter to the nobody wants to hire me part.
06:22 DaemonFC; And post it.
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; who aren't even in IRC
06:22 schestowitz[TR]; let me check the PDF
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; I can release that
06:23 DaemonFC; A person with several advanced degrees who has trouble finding work has some real big problems.
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; of course ythe PDF lacks context
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; like how he kept derfaming me in twitter
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; insinuating I was pro-rape
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; to an audience of thousands
06:23 DaemonFC; That's how DARVO works, Roy.
06:23 DaemonFC; Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; let me check the PDF
06:23 DaemonFC; The key part is to accuse others of being what you are.
06:23 schestowitz[TR]; without commentary it misses the context and all
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06:24 schestowitz[TR]; e made many enemies
06:24 schestowitz[TR]; for a reason
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06:24 schestowitz[TR]; i don't agree with phanes
06:24 schestowitz[TR]; but he's one of many
06:24 DaemonFC; Did he accuse everyone he worked with at Google of being a rapist?
06:25 schestowitz[TR]; i don't like his politics
06:25 schestowitz[TR]; but mjg59_ tries to paint some people as nazis and rapists
06:25 schestowitz[TR]; who are not
06:25 schestowitz[TR]; by innuendo
06:25 Ariadne; Google sure does like their yearly "you can't expense trips to strip clubs, hookers, and blow" seminars
06:25 schestowitz[TR]; so he gets away with it
06:26 mjg59_; Given you keep making inaccurate claims about what that letter said, I've got no problem with you publishing it
06:26 schestowitz[TR]; 2019 http://techrights.org/2019/09/19/gnu-linux-decapitated-leadership/
06:26 TR Bot; Buying the Voices of Linux People to Repeat Microsofts Talking Points While Removing Our Icons and Leaders (Calling Them Sexist) | Techrights
06:26 mjg59_; Although I'm kind of confused, given you said the only thing worth doing with it was tearing it up and throwing it away
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; somehow even torvalds was painted as sexist
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/
06:27 TR Bot; They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights
06:27 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Although I'm kind of confused, given you said the only thing worth doing with it was tearing it up and throwing it away
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you keep hurting rianne
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06:27 schestowitz[TR]; a lot
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; not me
06:27 DaemonFC; Head first into the garbage along with the sender.
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; I am thick-skinned
06:27 schestowitz[TR]; she is NOT
06:28 Ariadne; err, why would you provide such useful tactical information ?
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06:28 schestowitz[TR]; Andrea Fenwick <afenwick@jsf-law.co.uk>
06:28 schestowitz[TR]; "Please see attached letter, which is sent on behalf of Matthew Price. Please reply to mprice@jsf-law.co.uk"
06:29 schestowitz[TR]; checking...
06:29 Ariadne; maybe mjg59_ should just publish it directly
06:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's a giant bluff
06:29 mjg59_; Ariadne: I'm not sure I actually have a copy of it, weirdly
06:29 mjg59_; But let me check
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06:29 schestowitz[TR]; the threat also threaten you to keep quiet about the threat
06:29 schestowitz[TR]; very typical lawyerism
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; "We look forward to hearing from you by return and in any case by no later than 4.00pm on 26
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; November 2021."
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; They also give me deadlines
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; like they employ me or something
06:30 DaemonFC; Which came and went and nothing happened?
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; "Archive that apology on your Twitter and Diaspora accounts, so that it remains
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; searchable to users of both platforms."
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; The diaspora instance is dead now
06:30 schestowitz[TR]; and I'm not in Twitter
06:31 schestowitz[TR]; They ask me to apologise to the one DEFAMING ME
06:31 schestowitz[TR]; amazing
06:31 schestowitz[TR]; do I get down on one knee, too?
06:31 Ariadne; tbh i think your coverage of his work on UEFI boot security has been kinda biased
06:31 schestowitz[TR]; trying to find the part about DaemonFC
06:31 DaemonFC; Just don't get too close or you'll get cooties.
06:31 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: UEFI 'secure' boot is a real problem
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the tone is not everyone's taste
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; but that's true for all journalism
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; all journalism pisses off _someone_
06:32 Ariadne; UEFI in general is a problem for a number of reasons
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; "Pay our clients legal costs to be assessed if not agreed."
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; They want me to pay HIM!
06:32 DaemonFC; LOL
06:32 schestowitz[TR]; after he defamed me
06:33 Ariadne; attested UEFI boot does not increase or decrease the problems with UEFI
06:33 mjg59_; Roy, you said that an article about someone sexually assaulting people at a conference was about me
06:33 Ariadne; (assuming that the user uninstalls preloaded keys anyway)
06:33 schestowitz[TR]; before he sent me this letter: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
06:33 TR Bot; Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
06:33 schestowitz[TR]; he kept defaming me
06:33 schestowitz[TR]; insinuating I was some kind of rapist
06:33 schestowitz[TR]; I accuse HIm of slander
06:33 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he r eckons sending a threat my way would give illusion of 'parity'
06:34 DaemonFC; Remember the freakasaurus can't get married because "COVID".
06:34 Ariadne; have you been watching voyager or something
06:34 DaemonFC; MMhm ;)
06:35 DaemonFC; GULAG actually can't get married because if he leaves the house and gets exposed to sunlight he'll burst into flames.
06:35 DaemonFC; Because he's Irish.
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; "Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission from the original
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; "
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/11/08/matthew-gafam-hypocrisy/
06:35 TR Bot; Corporate Troll Matthew GAFAM Garrett Complains About Computer Devices Called Master/Slave While Using Slave Labor | Techrights
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; he cites THIS in the letter
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's something from here: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/08/corporate-troll-matthew-gafam-garrett-complains-about-computer-devices-called-master-slave-while-using-slave-labor/
06:35 TR Bot; Corporate Troll Matthew GAFAM Garrett complains about computer devices called master/slave while using slave labor. | BaronHK's Rants
06:35 schestowitz[TR]; then writes:
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; "You state that the Article is about Matthew GAFAM #mjg, both well-known
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; nomenclatures used by our client and/or previously used by you to refer to our
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; client (see http://techrights.org/2021/11/08/matthew-gafam-hypocrisy/) . By
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; doing so, you assert that our client is a conference sexual predator."
06:36 DaemonFC; LOL
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; From the letter
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; so you see?
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; this is the shit I deal with
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; poor guy in IL writes a blog post
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; in a free platform
06:36 schestowitz[TR]; and some rich guy in SF sends me letters
06:37 mjg59_; Ah there we go https://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/priv/roy.pdf
06:37 schestowitz[TR]; oipened by rianne
06:37 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/priv/roy.pdf )
06:37 schestowitz[TR]; whom he later, she believes, doxxes to her employer of almost 10 years
06:37 mjg59_; Whoops permissions should be fixed
06:37 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: what a lovely feminist you are...
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; maybe start a new directory
06:38 mjg59_; Because your wife opened mail addressed to you, and falsely believes I attempted to get her fired?
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; ~/priv/slapp/
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; so you can add the rest of them
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; yes, that
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; 's the letter I look at
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; how many [name].pdf do you have?
06:38 schestowitz[TR]; maybe add surname
06:39 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid dupes :-)
06:39 DaemonFC; "You state that out client met with the author of the Article, Kirsten England, and
06:39 DaemonFC; attempted to ply her with alcohol with the intention of having sex with her
06:39 DaemonFC; against her will."
06:39 DaemonFC; Well, that's almost as bad as not get a legally binding contract to have sex in California.
06:39 DaemonFC; In case the issue of consent ever comes up at a police station.
06:39 schestowitz[TR]; this sort of "diplomacy" will just make him more enemies
06:40 schestowitz[TR]; he could, instead, aspologise for helping Microsoft
06:40 DaemonFC; "You state that our client attempted to use physical force."
06:40 schestowitz[TR]; but he has no guts or integrity to do this
06:40 DaemonFC; Well that has to be a lie.
06:40 schestowitz[TR]; instead he attacks everyone
06:40 DaemonFC; Who couldn't get Matt GULAG off of them>
06:40 schestowitz[TR]; like calling RMS things he knows RMS is not
06:40 schestowitz[TR]; like "ableist"
06:40 DaemonFC; All you have to do is push him away with your pinky finger.
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, I'm back to Linux links now
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; but now you can see how he uses someone I never met
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; against me
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; he does not even understand 1st am.
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they fast-tracked his tech naturalisation
06:41 schestowitz[TR]; without him doing any of the work
06:42 schestowitz[TR]; aprpos, epo
06:42 mjg59_; I understand that the 1st amendment doesn't exist in the UK
06:42 schestowitz[TR]; if you know the managers, you don't need to do the exams
06:42 Ariadne; tbh i think the letter sent was reasonable. it identifies some really deranged content
06:42 schestowitz[TR]; you "pass" magically
06:42 mjg59_; But also that it's unlikely that you asserting that I sexually assault people at conferences is unlikely to be protected speech
06:42 schestowitz[TR]; without taking the exam: http://techrights.org/2020/03/16/doyen-for-a-yen/
06:42 TR Bot; Series Index: Doyen for a Yen | Techrights
06:42 mjg59_; Er, remove ne of those unlikelys
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; of course the european media did not cover this corruption scandal
06:43 bagira; ha ha ha
06:43 bagira; dude ignore that notice
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: you must see the context
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; as I noted earlier
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; and mentioned months earlier: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
06:43 TR Bot; Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
06:43 Ariadne; i think this whole thing is stupid
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; he kept defaming and provoking me
06:43 bagira; schestowitz[TR],if they send you any more legal nonsense you should start sending them invoices for the time spent reading their garbage
06:43 schestowitz[TR]; it was around the time we muted him in IRC
06:43 Ariadne; sure, you are both trolling each other
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; I'd not say trolling
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's again this "partity" thing
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; he lies about me
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; and then sends the letter
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; for illusion of parity
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; like Trump suing his accusers
06:44 schestowitz[TR]; like he is theoir victim
06:45 Ariadne; you blame him for working on things redhat employed him to work on
06:45 DaemonFC; My thinking about why a pizza goes cold when there's only about a million doordash drivers is nobody wants to take it until the pay is sufficient.
06:45 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Can you point at the legally defamatory things I've said about you
06:45 DaemonFC; They can see the total pay they'll get and how far they'll have to drive it.
06:45 Ariadne; why not criticize redhat for making a bad deal with microsoft re: UEFI signed boot
06:45 DaemonFC; Eventually Doordash ticks it up 50 cents at a time until someone figures it's worth getting.
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; why is Doordash even still "legal"?
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; lobbying?
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; they are undercutting the workforce
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; and they're not alone
06:46 DaemonFC; Therefore, it is logical to assume that if the tip was generous the initial base pay plus the generous tip would have gotten the pizza to its destination faster.
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; many companies that exist solely on being able to screw the workers
06:46 DaemonFC; Regardless, I am amused that this got turned into Pizzagate.
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; restaurants, hotels, taxi drivers
06:46 bagira; i blame him for spending over a decade defaming his peers with a persistent theme involving antagonizing lgbtq and feminist communities with polarizing, accusatory rhetoric
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; while thwarting long-foughtf-or workers protection
06:47 Ariadne; i'm sorry, can you explain to me why techrights focuses on mjg59_ directly re: UEFI signed boot
06:47 Ariadne; and not redhat, the company that paid for it to be supported
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: it started in 2012
06:47 Ariadne; yes
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI#2012
06:47 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
06:47 DaemonFC; Oh, so we're going with that argument. If the Nazis hadn't paid some asshole it would have been some other asshole taking the money.
06:47 DaemonFC; That argument.
06:47 DaemonFC; :)
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; first in this wiki page: http://techrights.org/2012/06/05/uefi-tax/
06:47 TR Bot; Microsofts Monopolistic Abuses Continue as Red Hat and Fedora Tax Are Put in Place | Techrights
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/06/09/uefi-mistake/
06:47 TR Bot; Red Hat Criticised for Advancing Microsofts UEFI Agenda | Techrights
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; all about red hat
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; just red hat
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; those are the first two
06:48 Ariadne; so, why not focus on that?
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; i didn't personify that at all
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; I did
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; in 2012
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; then started the pushback
06:48 DaemonFC; An executioner is a murderer.
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; like the anti-Torvalds stuff
06:48 bagira; Ariadne, also it's not a mitigating circumtance if someone's employer pays them to do something unethical, they still did that unethical thing
06:48 DaemonFC; He doesn't get to argue that someone else would have taken the paycheck.
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; because Torvalds didn't want this Microsoft "deep-thrating"
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and then they did ad hom on Linus
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; trying to REMOVE him
06:48 Ariadne; bagira: sure
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; from his OWN project
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; that he had done since 1990ish
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; 1991 first release
06:49 Ariadne; i just find it strange the obsession over this specific unethical thing
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/06/13/red-hat-closed/
06:49 TR Bot; Red Hat Was Wrong About UEFI, Failed to Ask the Users | Techrights
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/06/11/linux-and-uefi/
06:49 TR Bot; Linus Torvalds Disputes Security of UEFI | Techrights
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/06/19/microsoft-talking-points-on-uefi/
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; first 5
06:49 TR Bot; Red Hat Fails to Convince That UEFI is Tolerable, Uses Security as Talking Point | Techrights
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; red hat, red hat, red hat, red hat, red hat...
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; did not even name mjg59_
06:50 Ariadne; so then how does it go from red hat to mjg59
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI#June_3
06:50 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; that part
06:50 bagira; Ariadne, he's part of a growing community of non-contributing toxic f/oss participants who only seem to exist in those communities to attack people of a specific demographic while working against f/oss interests in all their professional endeavors
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; then it became personal
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; because of the way Torvalds was treated
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; he rejected that for personal and technical reasons
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; maybe legal too
06:50 bagira; fabricating one accusation after another for what, 12 years?
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; and then this whole "you're racist" or "YOU ARE RUDE" thing started
06:50 Ariadne; i see
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; because he could not get Microsoft Trojkan horse into Linus
06:51 schestowitz[TR]; let me find that.. hbang on
06:51 bagira; and they all have the same theme and they're the same theme his fiance used when she also made false accusations against someone /else/ of that /same/ demographic
06:51 schestowitz[TR]; this was the first on mjg59_ http://techrights.org/2012/11/05/matthew-garrett/
06:51 TR Bot; Garrett a Microsoft Apologist | Techrights
06:51 schestowitz[TR]; about THIRTY posts later
06:51 schestowitz[TR]; 30 from the bottom
06:51 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/07/05/uefi-criticism/
06:51 TR Bot; Canonical and Red Hat Receive Negative Publicity Over Submissive UEFI Choices | Techrights
06:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/07/12/non-free-boot-and-debian/
06:52 TR Bot; Debian Follows the FSFs Not Red Hats Footsteps Regarding UEFI | Techrights
06:52 bagira; he's using these communities as shields against the consequences of his persistently unethical behaviour
06:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/07/20/red-hat-does-not-want-to-defend-its-position-on-uefi/
06:52 TR Bot; Red Hat Does Not Want to Defend Its Position on UEFI | Techrights
06:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/07/25/loss-makes-disruption/
06:52 TR Bot; Microsoft Dictatorship Divides and Conquers Linux With Novell, Red Hat, and Ubuntu | Techrights
06:52 schestowitz[TR]; it was all about Red Hat
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; then SUSE and Canonical
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; Debian resisted
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; FSF resisted
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; then Intel and Red hat also funded FSF
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; and he was awarded to do what FSF had been against
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; maybe a coincidence
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; and he kept making lousy excuses for it
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; and posted lots of blog comments in Techrights
06:53 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2013/03/02/uefi-antitrust-and-rant/
06:54 TR Bot; UEFI Restricted Boot: Torvalds Asks Developers Not to Please Microsoft by Doing Idiotic Crap Approach, Petition Set Up to Nail Microsoft for This Antitrust Abuse | Techrights
06:54 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2013/02/25/torvalds-vs-uefi/
06:54 TR Bot; Torvalds Curses Over UEFI Stupidity, Gets Upset at Red Hat (Updated) | Techrights
06:54 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/
06:54 TR Bot; Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights
06:54 Ariadne; anyway
06:54 schestowitz[TR]; so that's some more context
06:54 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ spends years here in IRC trying to "beat" me not on arguments but P-C lingo
06:55 schestowitz[TR]; watching millions of tweets I wrote and dissecting them wrongly
06:55 schestowitz[TR]; 951k tweets total
06:55 bagira; anyway this guy is a defect in f/oss and people need to know that his NPD will damage anyone around him if it suits his interests
06:55 schestowitz[TR]; Louise Mensch did the same
06:55 schestowitz[TR]; tried to find "evidence" I was antisemitic
06:55 schestowitz[TR]; to 'cancel' me
06:56 schestowitz[TR]; I should show her some forms I filled up about my gassed relatives
06:56 schestowitz[TR]; twitter is the past
06:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's shrinking fast, and good riddance
06:56 bagira; im not under the impression twitter is hurting that bad tbh
06:57 TR News; Holistic Approach to OpenPGP Security https://sequoia-pgp.org/holistic-approach/"
06:57 TR Bot; Holistic Approach to OpenPGP Security
06:57 schestowitz[TR]; it's hurting a lot
06:57 schestowitz[TR]; let me get two links
06:57 *bagira tries to remember what the hell he was even working on
06:57 schestowitz[TR]; hang on
06:57 schestowitz[TR]; btw, thery made RMS seem like a monster
06:57 schestowitz[TR]; using some lying tweets
06:57 bagira; yeah im still paying for that campaign
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/news-referral-traffic-breakdown/
06:58 TR Bot; How do consumers find news? News referral traffic breakdown
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/02/turns-out-social-media-is-driving-less-and-less-traffic-to-media-orgs/
06:58 TR Bot; Out Social Media Is Driving Less And Less Traffic To Media Orgs | Techdirt
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; they don't lose much anymore by leaving that "space"
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; as fewer people bother with that "space"
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; app space, web space, whatever
06:58 Ariadne; tbh social media should die anyway :))))
06:58 schestowitz[TR]; i moved on well before musk anyway
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/
06:59 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; that was one last straw
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; 2020
06:59 bagira; that's almost fair tbh ("social media should die"). It has not been good for society.
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; later twitter would suspend me for perfectly factual and polite stuff
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; like pointing out that patents on covid-19 were a problem
06:59 schestowitz[TR]; then, with twitter files
07:00 schestowitz[TR]; [gets link[
07:00 schestowitz[TR]; https://theintercept.com/2023/01/16/twitter-covid-vaccine-pharma/
07:00 TR Bot; Covid-19 Vaccine Makers Pressured Twitter to Censor Activists
07:00 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of the media did not cover this
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; because... not convenient
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; RT is blocked in the UK
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; or my ISP
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://theintercept.com/2023/01/16/twitter-covid-vaccine-pharma/
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; I cannot open this link https://www.rt.com/news/569990-twitter-censorship-patent-waiver/
07:01 Ariadne; i am very ok with censoring activists who peddle in antivax lies :)
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; IP and domain blocked here
07:01 TR Bot; Pharma lobbied to censor calls for affordable Covid-19 vaccines Twitter files RT World News
07:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I try to stick to older proven technologies.
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; so if you oppose many patents, then twitter will manhandle you out
07:01 DaemonFC; Maybe someday people will finish taking leave of their sanity and want stuff that works again.
07:01 schestowitz[TR]; while pharma companies paid twitter
07:01 bagira; we're not still pretending the covid vax thing didn't turn out to be a massive scandal are we
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: it's not about antivaxx
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; biden supported the waiver
07:02 DaemonFC; It didn't protect me.
07:02 bagira; the whole medical community's credibility is in shambles still
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they should also suspect biden
07:02 DaemonFC; I got very sick even with the bivalent booster.
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; *suspend
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; or shadowban him
07:02 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Can you point at the legally defamatory things I've said about you
07:02 DaemonFC; No legitimate vaccine has three shots plus a fourth updated booster and then does nothing at all.
07:02 mjg59_; Are they in the room with us right now
07:03 bagira; and so is the credibility of the huge tidal wave of bootlickers who think the state never lies to people
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: jim zemlin aidm last month he had gotten covid
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; and could not give his speech
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; he was locked down
07:03 mjg59_; Anyway like I said
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; after peddling all this stuff he's still getting infested with it
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; and must isolate
07:03 DaemonFC; There's no such thing as durable immunity to COVID.
07:03 mjg59_; You're more than welcome to publish that PDF
07:03 DaemonFC; Whether it's from a vaccine or being infected.
07:03 bagira; schestowitz[TR], if you find the content mjg59_ is requesting please share it with me so I can add it to his CV of defamation
07:04 Ariadne; he posted it himself
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; i don't want to waste time on that DB
07:04 DaemonFC; Eventually we got to a point where the looting peaked and they "opened everything up".
07:04 DaemonFC; No emergency anymore.
07:04 DaemonFC; Forget you just lived through that.
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; i try to keep focus on what mjg59_ tries to distract us from
07:05 bagira; schestowitz[TR], it's a longer game than you're playing
07:05 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You try to keep focus on just dropping random transphobia into things?
07:05 TR News; Will Sudan be taken over by the Egyptian military by year's end? https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/06/01/sudan-concrete-un-security-council-action-needed
07:05 TR Bot; Sudan: Concrete UN Security Council Action Needed | Human Rights Watch
07:05 bagira; mjg59_, are you hiding behind a community to distract from someone holding you accountable from your unethical behaviour again
07:05 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: no, I mentioned KSA
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; and you try to find transphobia in everything
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; esp. to the point of stalking people you dislike
07:06 Ariadne; i must admit i wonder what the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has to do with transwomen in that analogy
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; KSA even kills gays
07:06 Ariadne; being trans in saudi arabia is a death sentence
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; (still)
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; the sportwashing distracts from their mass executions
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; which they do on xmas day
07:06 schestowitz[TR]; when the media is not working
07:07 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: No, the statement I'm referencing didn't say anything about KSA
07:07 bagira; are you thining of KSA or Iran? I think some of those places like Qatar are a little more progressive but I haven''t looked to hard tbh
07:07 mjg59_; bagira: This you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.65.65.144
07:07 TR Bot; User talk:71.65.65.144 - Wikipedia
07:08 bagira; mjg59_, looks like an IP address
07:08 mjg59_; Nope, looks like a URL
07:08 bagira; mjg59_, what happens if you go to http://71.65.65.144
07:08 TR Bot; NO TITLE
07:08 mjg59_; Seems like you get something that says NO TITLE
07:09 bagira; epistemology i'd expect at this point tbh
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: what they signal outwards is not what they do
07:09 mjg59_; If you follow the redirect you get a page where you curate a list of people on the internet who've said things you don't like
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; there is the public policy
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; and private policy
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; HRC paraphrased
07:09 mjg59_; Which has fucking awful SEO
07:09 mjg59_; You should work on that
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; KSA knows it costs too much in oil sales to round up all gays and behead them
07:09 bagira; mjg59_, are you talking about this: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/
07:09 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew
07:09 schestowitz[TR]; because most of the clients are not muslim
07:09 Ariadne; no, i am pretty sure, that being trans in KSA is a death sentence
07:10 mjg59_; Someone searching for me gets news stories about the paedophile teacher from Millbrae *way* before they get to your site
07:10 bagira; mjg59_, im curious why you think that's relevant
07:11 mjg59_; 05:59 < techrights-news> Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women
07:11 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Can you point to the KSA reference there?
07:11 mjg59_; bagira: What use is a website if nobody ever reads it?
07:11 bagira; mjg59_, are you hiding behind a community to distract from someone holding you accountable for your unethical behaviour again
07:11 bagira; because it sounds like that's what you're doing
07:12 TR News; Uses Rust, hence NOT MATURE code! https://blog.torproject.org/arti_115_released/
07:12 bagira; "let's talk something something transphobe first" and go down a rabbit hole because false accusations tend to draw defense and distract from you being called out
07:12 TR Bot; Arti 1.1.5 is released: Onion Services, RPC, and a security patch | The Tor Project
07:12 bagira; it's like the 50th time I've seen you do that
07:13 TR News; Man of thee VPNs not only log but also comply with gov requests https://www.engadget.com/youtube-influencer-selling-vpns-security-problems-153046206.html
07:13 TR Bot; is selling VPNs, and that's a problem for security | Engadget
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ is no more trans then I am
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; *than
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; except, I was never transphobic
07:13 bagira; i mean am i the only person that's noticed that every time mjg59_ gets backed into a corner over his unethical behaviours that he ends up calling someone a transphobe
07:13 schestowitz[TR]; unlike him
07:14 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You keep saying transphobic things
07:14 schestowitz[TR]; because they suffered aneough already
07:14 schestowitz[TR]; and I have empathy
07:14 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: So, how are you defining "transphobe"
07:14 bagira; it's a bait question
07:14 schestowitz[TR]; no, you twist words and exaggerate
07:14 mjg59_; bagira: Nonsense, plenty of people I fucking hate are absolutely not transphobes
07:14 schestowitz[TR]; next thing you know you will attack jews for making hoplocaust jokes
07:14 schestowitz[TR]; (which they do tell, btw)
07:14 Ariadne; 10:00 PM <techrights-news> Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like KSA speaking for women and human rights in the UN
07:14 Ariadne; 10:01 PM <mjg59_> 05:59 < techrights-news> Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women
07:14 Ariadne; 10:01 PM <mjg59_> Fucking transphobe
07:14 Ariadne; hmm :)
07:15 mjg59_; Ariadne: The one I quoted is from #techpol
07:15 schestowitz[TR]; and you are transpphobic
07:15 schestowitz[TR]; you are like ADL calling jews "self-hating"
07:15 schestowitz[TR]; because the sponsors don't like their views
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; on a plethora of issues
07:16 Ariadne; i admittedly do not have logs for that one
07:16 mjg59_; I said some transphobic stuff about 20 years ago. It was wrong for me to do so, and I've tried to do better since then.
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; anywayu, I'm back to news
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; that's why you were muted
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; you look to make commotion
07:17 TR News; Very very little news about GNU/Linux since Easter. This is measurable.
07:17 mjg59_; Guess I should write more patches so there's more news
07:17 mjg59_; Well. Guess I should finish up the patches I've already written.
07:18 DaemonFC; I'm a little trans sometimes.
07:18 TR News; Scanning IRC logs and checking file sizes for FOSS and GNU/Linux, it's possible to observe almost 50% decline in news not just about GNU/Linux. The Web is not the future, it's sort of the same with "social" "media".
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: and you are gay all the time
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; unlike the majority mjg59_
07:18 DaemonFC; When I'm driving or need to shit real bad and there's an empty single stall restroom with a lock on it and the pictogram of a person in a dress.
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; they'd even attack gays
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; and he's neither gay nor trans
07:18 DaemonFC; Desperate time, desperate measures.
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; satraight irish male
07:18 schestowitz[TR]; makes loads of money
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; adores MSSFT
07:19 mjg59_; Oh gosh you'll be horrified when you learn about the Bad Gays podcast
07:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is very homophobic.
07:19 Ariadne; strangely, most trans people actually would prefer the abolition of communal toilets
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: try living a day as a gay man
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; see how you feel
07:19 Ariadne; at which point, gendered restrooms stop making sense at all
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; your childhood friends won't talk to you
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; because... "weird"
07:19 Ariadne; since, you know, single stall
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 mjg59_; My childhood friends already don't talk to me because I'm 6000 miles away from them, and also because "weird"
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; "busy making money"
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; poor you!
07:20 DaemonFC; Irish therefore weird.
07:20 DaemonFC; Unnatural.
07:20 DaemonFC; And wrong.
07:20 DaemonFC; Also, an abomination.
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; I could also take a high-paying job
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; Mathworks offers 125k a year in 2005
07:21 mjg59_; Yeah weird that I'm closer to the people who I have things in common with rather than the people who were merely geographically local to me while I was growing up
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; but some of us look beyond money
07:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], None of the relatives I like are Irish.
07:21 DaemonFC; So there you go.
07:21 Ariadne; sometime you can take a high paying job working on issues that directly advance software freedom
07:21 *Ariadne shrugs
07:21 DaemonFC; There's Madame Harmon.
07:21 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You have nothing to do now other than work on TR so why have you published fewer stories than you had this time last year?
07:21 mjg59_; You know, when you had a job you were supposed to be doing full time
07:21 DaemonFC; Meaner than hell and spent all my grandfather's money on dumb shit like new Cadillacs so she could show off power windows.
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; <Ariadne> sometime you can take a high paying job working on issues that directly advance software freedom
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; those are rare
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; sirius paid very little
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; akin to mimumum wage
07:22 DaemonFC; A timeshare in Tennessee that they never used and ended up paying thousands of dollars in upkeep on every year and said "Do you want to use our time share this year?" to my uncle every year.
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; and they even robbd us
07:22 schestowitz[TR]; stole our pension money in secret
07:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's going to be hard for my uncle without them.
07:22 DaemonFC; Giving him free cars and vacations every few years.
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; biab
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; trolling noticed
07:23 DaemonFC; My grandmother's 2000 Cadillac actually held up rather well until she wrecked it because she was losing her mind.
07:23 DaemonFC; All she had to do was dump a quart of oil in it every week like all Cadillacs.
07:23 DaemonFC; :)
07:23 DaemonFC; But other than that, nothing horrific.
07:23 bagira; >>My childhood friends already don't talk to me because I'm 6000 miles away from them, and also because "weird" || peoples' entire social network don't collapse over geographic location unless there's something else
07:24 bagira; like a personality disorder that results in damage to others as utility allows
07:24 TR News; They like it when all the bombs fall not on Copenhagen but another country... lest Putin gets to Denmark next (after Poland) https://www.thelocal.dk/20230529/denmark-adds-an-extra-2-6bn-to-its-ukraine-aid-fund
07:24 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.dk/20230529/denmark-adds-an-extra-2-6bn-to-its-ukraine-aid-fund )
07:24 mjg59_; The "something else" was we had very little in common other than living within 30 miles of each other
07:24 Ariadne; i dunno, a lot of my childhood friends, i no longer talk to by choice, because they are drug addicts :))
07:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I offered to fix it for her. All you have to do to fix the oil leaks on most Northstar V8s is plug a device into the OBD-II port that runs the engine on all eight cylinders all the time so there's no blowby from the ones that aren't running.
07:25 DaemonFC; She kept dumping a quart of oil in it every week.
07:25 mjg59_; Turns out that moving to a very conservative, very religious environment when you are neither of these things doesn't result in a lot of shared experience!
07:25 DaemonFC; Which was more expensive than running it as a V8 constantly.
07:26 DaemonFC; mjg59_ professes to drink the leftist flavor-aide.
07:26 TR News; Twitter ALSO exploited the Ukraine war for PROFIT https://www.dw.com/en/death-from-above-is-video-game-based-on-ukraine-war-exploitative-or-positive/a-65761841 see https://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
07:26 TR Bot; games: Is Ukraine video game exploitative or positive? DW 05/29/2023
07:26 TR Bot; Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
07:26 DaemonFC; Yada yada climate change. Yada Elon Musk is Jesus here to save us all from climate change. Yada kill your babies. Yada.
07:26 bagira; DaemonFC, i dont think he's drinking it as koolaide so much as wearing it like a super hero uniform while robbing old ladies
07:26 DaemonFC; Pretend you're a woman. Yada yada so forth.
07:26 mjg59_; Also there was the whole "The town got blown up by terrorists just before I left" thing which left a lot of bad associations
07:26 bagira; IRA?
07:27 mjg59_; No, IRA splinter group
07:27 bagira; did you have anything to do with it
07:27 DaemonFC; That's how stupid the Irish are.
07:27 mjg59_; Did I have a part in the single worst terrorist attrocity in the Northern Irish troubles? No.
07:27 DaemonFC; Let's blow up our own country.
07:27 DaemonFC; That is literally how stupid they are.
07:27 schestowitz[TR]; to use an analogy, what mjg59_ is doing (trolling) is akin to me calling Asians online names because I'm married to one, which makes it "OK"
07:27 DaemonFC; Not even the fucking polaks are that stupid.
07:27 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Could you explain that more clearly, please?
07:28 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Is the analogy supposed to be that I'm married to a trans person, therefore I think it's ok for me to call trans people names? But I'm not calling trans people names.
07:28 bagira; no that's not a good analogy
07:28 DaemonFC; I wouldn't call myself particularly racist. You look at WGN and NBC Chicago and the rest.
07:29 DaemonFC; They show you a little bit of what happens right in front of me all day.
07:29 DaemonFC; The news is starting to hide the mugshots because it's always.....well you know.
07:29 bagira; it's more like "I'm married to a trans person so I think I have this magic card I can play where I accuse anyone who notices my horrendously shitty and documented damaging actions a transphobe"
07:29 TR News; The US pioneered such drone attacks. The media rarely mentions such technical "innovations", nor does it name the people who cautioned about what it would entail. Collective amnesia. https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-evacuations-in-kyiv-after-new-drone-assault/a-65766718
07:29 TR Bot; updates: Evacuations in Kyiv after new drone assault DW 05/30/2023
07:29 DaemonFC; Doesn't fit the narrative.
07:29 DaemonFC; But they publish the names. And with all the crazy shit black women name their kids, you can figure it out anyway.
07:30 TR News; Media this month: HEY HI (buzzword) is "existential risk" and "crisis". Just ignore all the people who drown right NOW due to climate change and the risk posed by drones RIGHT NOW... wait till the media remembers what nukes do to civilians.
07:30 DaemonFC; My "throw the glove on the ground challenge" to mjg59_ to prove he's not a racist stands.
07:30 mjg59_; Which one?
07:31 DaemonFC; I'll drive him out to the ghetto in the middle of the night and let him walk to the train station.
07:31 DaemonFC; See if he survives.
07:31 DaemonFC; As soon as they see his phone, he won't.
07:31 DaemonFC; So he never will.
07:31 mjg59_; I've spent plenty of time in South Chicago, as I've told you before
07:31 DaemonFC; Come to Chicago. I'll get you a coffee and drive you to the neighborhood.
07:31 DaemonFC; At 3 AM.
07:31 DaemonFC; The only rule is no using the bus.
07:31 DaemonFC; :)
07:32 DaemonFC; Or any Ubers and Lyfts and Taxis.
07:32 mjg59_; But I've still got my Ventra card and everything
07:32 DaemonFC; Has to be on foot.
07:32 DaemonFC; Until you get to the Red Line you can't use it. :D
07:33 DaemonFC; No white person in their right mind would accept this.
07:33 DaemonFC; No white person who was fairly crazy would accept this.
07:33 DaemonFC; They know what happens to white people in the middle of the night down there.
07:34 DaemonFC; Should one be down there.
07:34 bagira; chicago is a cesspool
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; better to focus on the technical things anyway
07:34 DaemonFC; It is.
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; which is what the culprit does NOT want
07:34 bagira; it's like that city in robocop before the robocop
07:35 DaemonFC; bagira, I'm afraid I was part of the movement that got the Obama Administration to stop responding to petitions.
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07:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/general/community-cafe/664841-microsoft-pluton-chip-won-t-allow-linux-boot
07:35 TR Bot; Microsoft Pluton chip won't allow Linux boot - Kubuntu Forums
07:35 DaemonFC; The one to enact the justice system from Judge Dredd passed 100,000 signatures and kept going.
07:35 DaemonFC; I signed it.
07:35 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
07:35 bagira; they need to just dissolve that whole county and start tearing down buildings
07:35 DaemonFC; Then they never replied to petitions again.
07:35 bagira; same with ann arbor and detroit
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ admits Roy is right https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59931.html
07:35 TR Bot; mjg59 | Lenovo shipping new laptops that only boot Windows by default
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07:35 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Pluton doesn't prevent Linux from booting
07:36 DaemonFC; Admits I was right.
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; and was right since 20112
07:36 DaemonFC; Several years later.
07:36 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Pluton doesn't prevent Linux from booting
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI#2012
07:36 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/09/25/uefi-and-canonical/
07:36 TR Bot; Ubuntu Acknowledges UEFI Mistake by Taking FSF Advice | Techrights
07:36 DaemonFC; That old laptop you said wouldn't have power management even if they did take out the restriction has been running Linux since 2016.
07:36 DaemonFC; With power management.
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/10/31/uefi-and-security/
07:36 TR Bot; Microsoft Cant Understand Security (Lesson for UEFI Apologists) | Techrights
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/11/18/blocking-gnu-linux-in-oems/
07:36 TR Bot; Vista 8 is Not Selling, But Microsofts UEFI Scheme Blocks Linux Installations/Booting | Techrights
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2012/11/21/hardware-keys-for-lf/
07:36 TR Bot; Microsoft Proves Techrights Right by Screwing UEFI Partners | Techrights
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; this is what gulagboy does not want us talking about
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; he paved the way for this
07:37 DaemonFC; mjg59_, They took out the restriction after the State of Illinois started investigating them and Microsoft after I filed a complaint.
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; facilitated an obstruction
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; to slow down worldwide adoption of gnu/linux
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; delaying the inevitable perahps
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/statcounter-gnulinux-including-chromeos-grows-to-8-market-share-worldwide/
07:37 TR Bot; StatCounter: GNU/Linux (Including ChromeOS) Grows to 8% Market Share Worldwide | Techrights
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; now he attacks me for mentioning chromeOS
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; which i never endorsed
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; he pretends not to have reading comphrehension
07:38 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Will you admit that Pluton doesn't block Linux form booting
07:38 DaemonFC; Mandy uses Linux applications on Chrome OS.
07:38 DaemonFC; I taught him how to use Apt and Synaptic Package Manager.
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; crostini?
07:38 DaemonFC; Yeah.
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; ah, better use cruoton tbh
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's it's still maintained
07:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's better than what he was using before.
07:39 DaemonFC; A 2008 Macbook with missing keys and a dead battery where Chrome was screaming it hadn't been updated in several years.
07:39 DaemonFC; MARISOL said she wanted it back.
07:39 Ariadne; hmm, according to http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-status.txt
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; *crouton
07:39 Ariadne; Jun 05 05:59:43 <techrights-news>Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; it can make him familiarised with kde, gnome, or xfce4
07:39 Ariadne; was sent to both #boycottnovell-social and #techpol :)
07:41 TR News; Drone warfare is not new, but now the chicken come home to roost. Iran and Turkey make many drones.
07:41 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: shell
07:41 schestowitz[TR]; sudo startgnome
07:41 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if daniel still maintains that
07:41 schestowitz[TR]; Gulag hired him ages ago
07:42 mjg59_; Ariadne: Yeah it's a bit odd that he implied he hadn't actually said that, or that it was about KSA
07:42 schestowitz[TR]; and now pushes crostini
07:42 schestowitz[TR]; so the telemetry works no matter what you useds
07:42 schestowitz[TR]; and they can "monetise" the user
07:42 Ariadne; maybe he was hacked
07:42 mjg59_; All his apes gone :(
07:43 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: The reason for Crostini rather than Crouton is that chroots aren't a security boundary, but a hypervisor is
07:43 Ariadne; well, it depends on the quality of the hypervisor
07:43 mjg59_; And the ChromeOS security model makes assertions about there being no mutable executable content in the Chrome environment other than stuff that runs in the Chrome sandbox
07:44 mjg59_; Ariadne: Ok fair chroots aren't a security boundary, but a hypervisor can be
07:44 schestowitz[TR]; chromebook != security
07:44 schestowitz[TR]; starting with the hardware
07:44 schestowitz[TR]; and no seaBIOS
07:44 Ariadne; oh, chromebooks can be highly secure
07:44 mjg59_; Chromebooks are literally the most secure consumer hardware on the market
07:44 schestowitz[TR]; by resetingn each time
07:44 Ariadne; just replace ChromeOS with Alpine ;)
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; and getting all conf files from another company
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; that works with NSA
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; very secure :-)
07:45 mjg59_; They don't necessarily have all the privacy characteristics you want
07:45 mjg59_; But they're extremely secure
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07:45 bagira; why are you talking about anything that doesn't start with an apology even
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: if
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; gets a screw driver
07:45 schestowitz[TR]; in newer model, a soldering gun
07:45 mjg59_; What?
07:46 mjg59_; No
07:46 Ariadne; actually, some of the ARM chromebooks now support libreboot, and are reasonably secure in that configuration
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; because it's soldered to make turning the screw hard
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; speaking from experience :-)
07:46 Ariadne; screw ?
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
07:46 Ariadne; none of the ARM chromebooks have a screw
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; to unlock it
07:46 Ariadne; you just flash libreboot on them
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; you need to open the darn thing
07:46 Ariadne; with a little clip on thingy
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; depends on the OEM and model
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some of them have a magic button
07:46 bagira; is libreboot actually competitive w/ OEM these days?
07:46 Ariadne; then you get u-boot
07:47 Ariadne; and you just run normal aarch64 alpine
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; from what I heard,m it only got harder
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; early chromboosk were easier to wipe clean
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; the screws are bolted in
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; and if you get the diamond onesor whatever
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; prepare for the screws to get flat and blunt
07:47 Ariadne; (or whatever other OS you wish, be it a GNU/Linux, or a musl-based Linux, or a BSD)
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; because they would not turn
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07:48 schestowitz[TR]; they solder them in
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; the jumper is there just for "optics"
07:48 Ariadne; none of my chromebooks
07:48 Ariadne; have a screw
07:48 Ariadne; anyway
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; good fortune then
07:48 Ariadne; i am quite curious about
07:48 Ariadne; Jun 05 05:59:43 <techrights-news>Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women
07:48 Ariadne; on #techpol
07:48 Ariadne; pls elaborate
07:48 *DaemonFC plays around with one of the old ignition coils and zaps mjg59_ with 40,000 volts of direct current.
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; so it seems in canada many schools now use chromebooks
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; less monopoly rents for MSFT
07:49 DaemonFC; Everyone in a TV commercial is now black.
07:49 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: regretted, rephrased, reposted with suitable analogy
07:49 DaemonFC; Only black people buy products.
07:49 Ariadne; i tried getting a chromebook for my grandparents, they hated it because it lacked solitare
07:49 DaemonFC; Nobody wants your stinking white money.
07:49 Ariadne; solitaire*
07:49 DaemonFC; -Coke
07:49 schestowitz[TR]; my parents use android
07:49 schestowitz[TR]; that also hurts Windows
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; but in another way
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; Android is bigger than Windows now
07:50 Ariadne; azure is microsoft's largest biz now
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.gizmochina.com/2023/06/01/app-store-economy-grows-to-1-1-trillion-2022/
07:50 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.gizmochina.com/2023/06/01/app-store-economy-grows-to-1-1-trillion-2022/ )
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: many layoffs there
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; but the media isn't reporting it
07:50 schestowitz[TR]; they fake "growth"
07:50 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Wait you regretted it but when I said it was bad you attacked me instead?
07:50 Ariadne; ya i know
07:50 Ariadne; one of my partners
07:50 Ariadne; got laid off
07:50 Ariadne; :))))
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07:51 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/16/joseph-cantrell-censored-by-microsoft/
07:51 TR Bot; Microsoft Bing Hides News Regarding Microsoft Stabber Joseph Cantrell | Techrights
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; AZURE STARTED HIRING NAZIS
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; it didn't turn out well
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; when the nazis started stabbing colleagues
07:51 Ariadne; oh well, i am sure she will go work for google cloud or something
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/03/03/joseph-cantrell-drug-diary/
07:51 TR Bot; Thoughts on Microsoft Stabber Joseph Cantrells Drug Diary | Techrights
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; Google's lost money for years
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; billions
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; until maybe 9 months ago
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; first time it actually made some money
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07:52 schestowitz[TR]; net loss still massive
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 30 billion
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/25/googles-cloud-business-turns-profitable-for-the-first-time-on-record.html
07:52 TR Bot; Google's cloud business turns profitable for the first time on record
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07:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.itpro.com/cloud/cloud-computing/362121/google-cloud-reports-31bn-annual-losses
07:53 TR Bot; Cloud lost $3.1 billion in 2021 | ITPro
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; how do you run a "successful" "clown"
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; and STILL lose ocer 200 million dollars a month?
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; give me 250,000,000 a month
07:53 Ariadne; they give away a lot in free credit lol
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; maybe I can make a "cloud"
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; (hosting)
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07:54 schestowitz[TR]; "growth"
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; like AWS gave 'free' NGO accounts
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; like our clients
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; and then that... STOPPED
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; aws loss till 2010
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; can't find refs on that
07:54 schestowitz[TR]; buried on webspam/chaff
07:55 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Wait you regretted it but when I said it was bad you attacked me instead?
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-no-profits-and-why-it-works
07:55 TR Bot; Why Amazon Has No Profits Benedict Evans
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; 20145
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; 2014
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; "Amazon chooses to reinvest those profits into new businesses, so that reported net income for the company overall looks low. This masks the underlying success of the business model. "
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; Spin
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; like companies that BORROW money
07:55 schestowitz[TR]; over-hoire
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; to "expand"
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; and look big
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; while their debt grows
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; This is the "econoym" we now have
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; loads of loans
07:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Did you also regret "TR NewsAttacking LINUX via the trademark, associating it with groups that are internationally disliked https://www.bandt.com.au/trans-influencer-linux-is-the-latest-bud-light-drinker-to-receive-death-threats/" ?
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; biden signs of several trillions
07:56 TR Bot; Trans Influencer Linux Is The Latest Bud Light Drinker To Receive Death Threats - B&T
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; gives x contracts to y companies
07:56 Ariadne; i mean, google cloud is something that is going to continue to exist as long as AWS does. google started it out of fear of having their core businesses disrupted by Amazon :)))
07:56 bagira; i hate to say it but Bing AI writes f*cking amazingly well thought out code
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; "success"
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; "billionaires"
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; while taxpayers' liabilities GROW
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/05/05/microsoft-total-debt/
07:56 TR Bot; Microsofts Total Debt (Current and Longterm) is About 80 Billion Dollars | Techrights
07:57 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Where you finally admitted that what you meant was "Attacking LINUX via the trademark, associating it with trans women"?
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: plagiarised code
07:57 bagira; ive learned more about socket programming in the last 2 weeks just talking and guiding bing ai to build a new codebase as an experiment and its impressed the shit out of me
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/github_microsoft_openai_copilot/
07:57 TR Bot; GitHub and OpenAI fail to wriggle out of Copilot lawsuit The Register
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; the court sees merit in the lawsyut
07:57 Ariadne; today i learned that there is a tiktok influencer named "linux"
07:57 bagira; i didn't complete that thought --ive learned more in that 2 weeks than over the last 4 years reading about it
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/02/10/copilot-in-court/
07:58 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXVII The Future of OpenAI May Depend on the Fate of GitHubs Copilot in Court ($9 Billion in Damages) | Techrights
07:58 bagira; yeah i dont think msft will lose that one, it seems meritless
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; github has many layoffs
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; many
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; two waves of layoffs so far this year
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; and they are not done yet
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; the media barely reported it
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; even so-called FOSS sites
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; it's not important
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; ignore, disregard
07:59 bagira; we talked about this. companies at that size use layoffs strategically, it's not an organizational health indicator
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; that they lack a busines smodel
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; github won't stay free
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; let alone online
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; they bribe people wqith CPU cycles, ad Ariadne notes (not in these words)
07:59 Ariadne; github has a business model: sell people on azure services
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; Robert X. Cringely: "They [Microsoft] have the deepest of pockets, unlimited ambition, and they are willing to lose money for years and years just to make sure that you don't make any money, either. And they are mean, REALLY mean."
08:00 bagira; azure is doing well too as much as i hate it as a csp
08:00 Ariadne; same reason why they own linkedin. i get spam on linkedin for azure services, trainings, etc. all the time
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: hence the layoffs
08:00 bagira; yep
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; they do so well that every year since 2020... layoffs
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; and shurttinfg down DCs
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; or using the abandoned capacity to run useless LLM trainers
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; to keep them "busy"
08:01 Ariadne; azure is honestly the worst of the "big 3" for SREs to work with
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
08:01 TR Bot; Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; azure has security holes all the time
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; they barely bother patcheing them
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; unless pressure grows too much
08:01 bagira; dude these aren't your dad's union's 20 year coal miners, 2023 companies work in a completely different way than youre thinking. layoffs are normal. that said, layoffs across many companies at the scale we've seen is an indicator of market problems, but the MSFT layoffs are normal so far and account for less than 5% of their workforce (and far less than they hired to virtue signal during covid)
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; and then they attack the reporter
08:02 bagira; theyve been operating with a swollen headcount this whole time and now theyre relaxing their belt
08:02 Ariadne; bagira: well, no. it is to refocus the swollen headcount on the next trend
08:02 Ariadne; in this case LLMs
08:02 bagira; yes that too
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; no
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; they fire them too
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; wait, getting links
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; they fired loads of bing staff this year
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; and "AI" staff
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; the media narrative is sponsored lies
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; and there's proof of it in the media, too
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; albeit overwhelmed by the noise
08:04 bagira; as ariadne points out thats part of a refocus effort and is a strategic pivot not an org health indicator
08:04 mjg59_; Ariadne: People having tux tattooed on them good I guess, trans influencers calling themselves Linux apparently bad?
08:04 bagira; its not at the scale there that theyre suggesting
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; this "AI" stuff has no buisness model
08:04 mjg59_; It has an obvious business model
08:04 mjg59_; It promises to reduce the number of people you have to pay
08:04 Ariadne; i mean, their own internal "all hands" emails said the microsoft layoffs are about pivoting towards AI :)))
08:05 bagira; in all fairness AI has been a huge letdown
08:05 bagira; these companies are chasing snake oil
08:05 Ariadne; idk i don't work there, but one of my partners did :)
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/03/28/strategic-but-abandoned/
08:05 TR Bot; All of Microsofts Strategic Areas Have Layoffs This Year | Techrights
08:06 bagira; schestowitz[TR], companies at that scale "breathe" their headcount
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/01/buzzwords-no-more/
08:06 TR Bot; Microsoft Layoffs in the Buzzwords Department | Techrights
08:06 bagira; hell even midcap does that
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/01/buzzwords-no-more/
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; LLM staff
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/03/african-staff-laid-off-by-microsoft/
08:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Lays Off African Staff as Windows Market Share in Africa Falls to 15% | Techrights
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; they didn't make money from it
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; they paid the media
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; and paid huge electricity bills
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; or paid "open"AI to pay those bills
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; altman jokes about how massive those bills were
08:07 bagira; if you fire a bunch of people you have to jump through alot more legal hoops than if you have a layoff. if you eliminate a position you don't have to fight people to do it.
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; and admits they still cannot make money
08:08 bagira; its strategic dude
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; <mjg59_> It has an obvious business model
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; the lying?
08:08 bagira; lol
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2023/05/31/non-profit-helpline-fires-staff-shifts-to-chatbot-solution/
08:08 TR Bot; Non-Profit Helpline Shifts To Chatbots, Then Shuts Down Rogue AI
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ifrahlaw.com/ftc-beat/liar-liar-robot-on-fire-can-you-seek-legal-relief-if-a-chatbot-defames-you/
08:09 TR Bot; Liar, Liar Robot on Fire Can You Seek Legal Relief if a Chatbot Defames You? - IFRAH Law
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ifrahlaw.com/ftc-beat/liar-liar-robot-on-fire-can-you-seek-legal-relief-if-a-chatbot-defames-you/
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; they believed the media hype
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; and got fired
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; or disbarred
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; because it was falsely marketed
08:09 bagira; this whole AI thing is because the academic side of it was corrupted few years back to reclassify ML from a taxonomical child of statistics to a taxonomical child of AI so that big companies could sell ML products marketed as AI
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; all this "passes X exam"
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; or "will replace [occupation]"
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; paid-for nonsense
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; but good luck proving wrong media that gets paid to "publish" the PR from Microsoft
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; like it is factual
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; "poety"
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; *poetry
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; what else did they say?
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; that you don't need a search engines with actual references?
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; or something checking the accuracy
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; medical advice, pet advice, car advice..
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/05/chatgpt-lies/
08:11 TR Bot; What happens when ChatGPT lies about real people? - The Washington Post
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; will anyone hire him? https://www.phonearena.com/news/lawyer-faces-punishment-using-ai-to-enhance-brief_id147758
08:11 TR Bot; faces punishment after ChatGPT gave him fake cases to cite on a court-submitted brief - PhoneArena
08:11 bagira; what im getting at is, they corrupted the academic space of AI to profit from it without making the necessary breakthroughs to actually build it (just changed definitions), so, these companies riding the AI wave are like sperm trying to find their way to an egg through the stomach. It will end terribly for all of them.
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; like meteverse
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; *metaverse
08:12 Ariadne; admittedly i did chuckle when ChatGPT described me as a full time rabbit
08:12 bagira; just like metaverse
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/30/microsoft-is-shutting-down-its-metaverse-unit-amidst-broader-layoffs/
08:12 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/30/microsoft-is-shutting-down-its-metaverse-unit-amidst-broader-layoffs/ )
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; all laid off
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; _all_
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: it said I was born in Russia
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; that hurts :-)
08:13 bagira; chatgpt is barely coherent for me most of the time
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; i hope the regime here doesn't use that for "research"
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; i never even went near russia
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; and have no russian ancestry
08:13 bagira; it was alot smarter when it first was introduced but i think they are nerfing it
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; tthey call lies "hallucinations"
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; like it's a medical condition
08:13 schestowitz[TR]; "it'll sober up, trust me!"
08:13 bagira; thats what bard does
08:14 bagira; bard will just make shit up
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; because trhe shareholdersa say "HEY HI"
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; then turned to the execs
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; said, what do you do about HEY HI?"
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; so google cobbled together some LLM in a rush
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; as did "meta"
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; and it's just more of the same
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; with lower power bills
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; as they had not spent months running it
08:15 bagira; Ariadne, are you still doing any collab w/ Libera? I've got a plague of locusts queued up for them if not.
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; while infringing licences
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; https://qz.com/elon-musk-twitter-microsoft-api-payment-1850356180
08:15 TR Bot; Microsoft's refusal to pay for Twitters API outraged Elon Musk
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/18/23729216/twitter-microsoft-api-data-sharing-elon-musk-satya-nadella
08:15 TR Bot; Elon Musks lawyer accuses Microsoft of abusing its access to Twitter data - The Verge
08:15 schestowitz[TR]; they passed cost fo electricity to other companies too
08:16 Ariadne; bagira: i moved my projects to OFTC for a reason :)
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/12r0xyz/reddit_will_begin_charging_for_access_to_its_api/
08:16 TR Bot; - Dive into anything
08:16 bagira; Ariadne, they're banning users for asking for support with Dark Horse apparently, so, I'm about to shit on some heads pretty loudly.
08:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://fortune.com/2023/04/19/reddit-charge-api-access-ceo-steve-huffman-artificial-intelligence-chatgpt/
08:16 TR Bot; to charge for API access; CEO blames A.I. | Fortune
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; they got loads of fake "traffic"
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; to train someone's useless model
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; that months later nobody would even use
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; when the hype wears off
08:17 bagira; I sent them an email basically telling them to knock that shit off or I'll have to pay attention and they chose an adversarial model.
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/18/technology/reddit-ai-openai-google.html
08:17 TR Bot; Reddit Wants to Get Paid for Helping to Teach Big A.I. Systems - The New York Times
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/18/reddit-charge-access-api-counter-free-data-scraping-ai-companies/
08:17 TR Bot; to charge for access to its API to counter free data scraping by AI companies - SiliconANGLE
08:17 mjg59_; Huh man who participated in taking over IRC channels is annoyed at moderation policies on other IRC networks
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; "AI companies"
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; company with .ai TLD :-)
08:18 bagira; mjg59_, are you using group identity as a weapon now instead of a shield
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; before freenode collapsed people contacted me to reported they had been censored
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; for innocuous things like pro-Free software things
08:18 bagira; he's evolving
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; that was before Freenode collapsed
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; now libre.chat probably does the same
08:18 bagira; shit i was censored on freenode for years before that
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; censores some pro-Linux things
08:19 Ariadne; tbh i think chat infrastructure is best self-hosted :)
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; based on soem staff's arbitrary taste
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/
08:19 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; 520 networks
08:19 bagira; it got so bad they sent matt trout over to OFTC to negotiate a ceasefire and that got them like 7 years of peace right before the blowup, but they pulled out of their end of the agreement
08:19 Ariadne; there used to be thousands :)
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; more than in 2021
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights
08:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: there may be stilkl
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; but not large enough for andreas
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; i checked web archivge
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; wayl\back machine
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; he never listed more than hundreds
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; even decades back
08:21 Ariadne; searchirc had more
08:22 Ariadne; matrix seems awful
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; 2005: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2004.png
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; 2006: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2006.png
08:22 bagira; i think they think if i make a big enough stink that they can just renegotiate terms like last time but it really doesn't work like that. people will be fired there before i'd pull it off the burner.
08:23 mjg59_; Prediction: nothing of the sort will happen, because nobody cares about you
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08:23 mjg59_; Let's check back in 3 months
08:23 bagira; huh? 3 months, what's in 3 months
08:24 bagira; i operate in years
08:24 mjg59_; It's an arbitrary date
08:24 mjg59_; Oh
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; 2010: 751 networks http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2010.png
08:25 mjg59_; So what you mean is, you're going to (once again) refuse to provide any sort of expected timeline because you want to be able to assert that arbitrary things that happen in the future had something to do with you
08:25 bagira; anyway, you have defeatist thinking because you apply finite strategies to infinite models
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; 878 in 2004: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2004.png
08:25 bagira; you don't think about tracks and movement of positions on your field of play
08:26 bagira; like a chess board that stands still, you're not in trouble until someone actually moves
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2001 227 networks, 459k users http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2001.png
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2000 http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2000.png
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, both Ariadne and myself started with DALNet (iirc)
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; I started in 1993 or 4, IIRC
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; spoke to some Dutch people
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; over POTS
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; Feb 2021: 470 networks http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/netsplit-de-networks-2021-feb.png
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; months before freenode collapsed
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; now it's 519
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; and no single point of faillure
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; (ish)
08:29 bagira; ironically i told freenode (pre-lee) staff for years that I'd be the last of all of them to be connected to the server and they had no clue what I was saying
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; we actually made good accomplishments
08:30 Ariadne; i guess my argument is that there should be more smaller networks and less monolithic ones like libera.
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; but we dwell over the losses
08:30 Ariadne; but irc admin kinda sucks
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; like many "FOSS" projects moving from freshmeat and sourceforge to github
08:30 bagira; Ariadne, i agree with that. it creates too concentrated a sphere of control over the entire f/oss ecosystem.
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; now people have many more options, inc. codeberg and sht
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; sourcehut
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: you get abuse for it
08:31 Ariadne; right this is what i meant by a freenode staffer has the ability to unilaterally destroy somebodys career
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; and they made up fake sites for you
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; i was a bit shocked at first
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; thought it was really your site at first
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; but then went over the top
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; and the hoax became obvious
08:31 Ariadne; julius is in prison now :)
08:31 bagira; libera is about half the size it was when it was freenode, and about half those are bots, so, alot of those projects moved to other platforms. unfortunately some of the matrix targets are still backed under the hood by libera so it has the same issue.
08:32 Ariadne; matrix has other problems like
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; isn't ,matrix.org centralisedish
08:32 Ariadne; i set up synapse
08:32 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: And yet you write fake things about me
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; sort of like discord "guilds"?
08:32 Ariadne; and tried to join matrix-hq
08:32 Ariadne; and it took like
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you are projecting
08:32 bagira; <Ariadne> right this is what i meant by a freenode staffer has the ability to unilaterally destroy somebodys career || and they've shown a strong propensity to use that ability, which is the second factor
08:32 Ariadne; several hours to actually do it
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; you wrote falsehoods about many people
08:32 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Point at the false things I've said about you
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; and then they fed you back your own meds
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; and then you acted like trump victim
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; trump as victim
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; of those women who "defame" him
08:33 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You're unable to point at a false thing I've said about you
08:33 bagira; mjg59_, if youre looking for false things you've said about people, most of the ones i've captured are here: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/
08:33 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew
08:33 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Instead you merely dislike certain things I've said about you
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; unlike you, i don't waste time making caatogues of those things
08:33 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: So you admit that you're making an accusation without evidence?
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; you are a malicious stalker
08:34 Ariadne; anyway i wish i had not told rasengan that
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; waiting for years to pounce at opportunity to dox people
08:34 Ariadne; because apparently his conclusion was to seize control over freenode
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; freenode cannot be policed
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; it's far too vast
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; and irc is real-time
08:34 Ariadne; on the other hand, could have played out much better
08:34 bagira; schestowitz[TR], btw his persistent antagonization on your IRC network will likely have any case he brings to trial thrown out
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; by the time you respond to spammers or abuse it's too late already
08:35 Ariadne; yeah that is true actually
08:35 Ariadne; if i was a judge i would throw that shit out
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; biab
08:36 mjg59_; bagira: Huh you're suggesting that a court's willingness to throw something out is sufficient to ignore it?
08:36 bagira; bagira, i'd send back a photocopier scan of your arse with a little frank n beans tucked in if he actually sent that via cert. mail
08:36 mjg59_; bagira: So, like, the fact that no court would consider any of the accusations you've made against me to have standing is enough to ignore them?
08:37 TR News; Every US taxpayer is sponsoring the person who is promoting DeSantis https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/03/spacex-lands-pentagon-contract-for-starlink-terminals-for-ukraine/
08:37 TR Bot; Lands Pentagon Contract for Starlink Terminals for Ukraine - scheerpost.com
08:37 mjg59_; Or is that just me responding to the limited argument that I've made up rather than your actual position
08:37 bagira; mjg59_, oh man, i wasn't paying enough attention to your nonsense to know this time tbh
08:38 bagira; mjg59_, ya got no credibility bub. you're resting on laurels and virtue signals to a rotating posse.
08:39 Ariadne; what does rotating posse mean
08:39 Ariadne; on which axis does it rotate
08:39 bagira; Ariadne, a rotating circle of people in an everpresent metacycle of transitioning from buying it to being disgusted by it
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08:40 mjg59_; bagira: It's ok, you have no credibility with anyone who matters to me (and, as far as I can tell, with anyone at all), so
08:40 bagira; mjg59_, right just like you've totalllllly designed information systems
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; i'd rather focus on tech here :-)
08:40 bagira; and totallllllly know infosec arch
08:41 bagira; did you ever figure out what security controls are btw?
08:41 Ariadne; i mean i really take about 0.5% of what i read here seriously
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; security has been redfined
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; with my PDA, I am in contro
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; but not if someone steals it from me
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; now security means something else completely
08:41 mjg59_; Redfined? Like the property sales site?
08:42 mjg59_; Can I buy security with a guaranteed approved mortgage?
08:43 TR News; Even the number of HOWTOs published on the WWW rapidly decreased this past month or two. It can be proven using hard numbers.
08:43 bagira; i have literally had to give mjg59_ executive level introductions to both requirements management practices, distributed systems design, and security control integration
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08:43 TR News; .. whereas the number of posts in Gemini is still growing over time. June 20th is Gemini's 4th year.
08:44 bagira; guess that's what happens when you don't contribute for a decade
08:44 mjg59_; I've literally had to tell you why your code is broken
08:44 mjg59_; Guess that's what happens when you're a fucking idiot
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; name-calling
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; very "professional"
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; go ehad, blame roy
08:44 schestowitz[TR]; that you cannot find a job
08:45 mjg59_; I have a job
08:45 bagira; mjg59_, what you mean is you interjected in a problem I was still analyzing and then postured that as providing necessary input
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: california just banned your company's plan
08:45 bagira; i see that sometimes in corporate envs, those guys don't last long
08:45 mjg59_; bagira: You literally asked me to fix your string parsing
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; trucks without peoploe on board
08:45 schestowitz[TR]; they passed a law with a large majority
08:45 bagira; mjg59_, yeah you should make yourself useful and clean up some of the bash scripts in pyrois too
08:45 bagira; you're not doing anything else important so you have time
08:45 *schestowitz[TR] gets URL
08:46 mjg59_; Ok see that's you just lying about something, me pointing the lie out, and you changing the topic
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/01/california_lawmakers_driverless_trucks/
08:46 TR Bot; CA assembly OKs bill requiring drivers in autonomous trucks The Register
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; aurora bye bye
08:47 bagira; oh i thought you were lying about the libxml issue i was looking at where you interjected early. i vaguely remember you looking at a string parsing function
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; it's also the right decision
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; because only a bribed or deluded person would approve PC-running truck
08:47 bagira; mjg59_, if you can figure out how to submit a pull request, the repo is at: https://github.com/Dark-Horse-Linux/pyrois | see if you can clean up some of those bash scripts and environment files
08:47 TR Bot; - Dark-Horse-Linux/pyrois: Downstream mirror of Pyrois. The first mane. Pyrois generates a Linux distribution from raw sources, and is the build system for initial Dark Horse Linux images.
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; of course he changes the subject now
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; truth hurts
08:48 Ariadne; in fairness those computers are not PCs
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; big PCs :-)
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; with network on
08:48 Ariadne; small actually
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; which is even worse
08:48 mjg59_; Eh pretty big
08:48 bagira; they need it, some of those i was shitfaced just clearing an initial path
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; as you can steer it as a mitm
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08:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://schestowitz.com/Research/Cars/Car_Navigation/HTML/android-vision.html
08:49 mjg59_; I think Tesla's the only one not throwing a shitload of compute at the problem
08:49 TR Bot; CAR NAVIGATION THROUGH COMPUTER VISION METHODS WITH RUDIMENTARY IMPLEMENTATION UNDER ANDROID
08:49 Ariadne; usually SBCs
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; 2012
08:49 mjg59_; Oh SBC will give you L2 stuff
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08:50 schestowitz[TR]; still cloudy here :-(
08:50 bagira; self driving cars is another doomed sperm journey
08:50 Ariadne; self driving cars is good for CIA
08:50 schestowitz[TR]; planned to go biking... before hv gets rebooted :-)
08:50 mjg59_; But Intel's busy certifying Xeons into automotive platforms
08:50 bagira; i didn't say it couldn't make money, i said it's a doomed R&D tree
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; cars already have aprivacy tax
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; the insurance companies
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't have a microphone and cameras inside your car
08:51 Ariadne; https://heavy.com/news/2017/03/wikileaks-vault-7-remote-car-hack-assassination-michael-hastings-conspiracy/
08:51 TR Bot; Vault 7 Conspiracy: Michael Hastings Assassinated by CIA Remote Car Hack? | Heavy.com
08:51 bagira; yeah it prob is good for the three letter agencies
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; with connection turned on
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; cars were always tracked
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; licence plates
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; the readerrs were then machine machines, not human
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; so they can log all journeys
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; eff wrote about it last month, getting link
08:52 bagira; all those strong little swimmer companies are going to spend all their resources wiggling down the self driving car chute before they realize they're inside of a colon in a few years
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; older: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/01/eff-joins-effort-restrict-automated-license-plate-readers-california
08:52 TR Bot; EFF Joins Effort to Restrict Automated License Plate Readers in California | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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08:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/05/victory-california-police-instructors-cant-claim-copyright-protections-block
08:53 TR Bot; Victory in California! Police Instructors Cant Claim Copyright Protections to Block Release of Use-of-Force and Other Training Materials | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:53 Ariadne; nobody has proposed porting kubernetes to self driving car systems where i work anyway
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; more in https://www.eff.org/about/staff/dave-maass
08:53 TR Bot; Dave Maass | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:53 bagira; lol
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; wait, wrong link
08:53 bagira; Ariadne, really? I'm surprised.
08:54 mjg59_; Ariadne: It's already on non-autonomous cars
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/eff-files-new-lawsuit-against-california-sheriff-sharing-alpr-data-ice-and-cbp
08:54 TR Bot; EFF Files New Lawsuit Against California Sheriff for Sharing ALPR Data with ICE and CBP | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:54 Ariadne; yuck :)
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; so it's not about traffic enforcement anymore
08:54 schestowitz[TR]; what next?
08:54 mjg59_; I'm not aware of anyone using it in an autonomy stack but I'm also not in a position to be, so
08:54 Ariadne; though not surprising
08:55 mjg59_; At least automotive QNX seems to be dying out
08:55 Ariadne; i can see the benefits
08:55 Ariadne; doesnt mean i have to like it ;)
08:56 TR News; newyorker (conde nast) assumes all its readers are billionaires https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/05/how-to-hire-a-pop-star-for-your-private-party
08:56 TR Bot; How to Hire a Pop Star for Your Private Party | The New Yorker
08:56 bagira; what the hell was i trying to finish before bed
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; vault 7 has QNX stuff
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; about how CIA can remoately access it
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; checking for good url
08:57 schestowitz[TR]; (at least we talk tech now)
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/cia-listed-blackberry-s-car-software-as-possible-target-in-leak
08:58 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; "BlackBerry Ltd.s QNX automotive software, used in more than 60 million cars, was listed as a potential target for the Central Intelligence Agency to hack, according to documents released by WikiLeaks."
08:58 mjg59_; That says QNX was a possible target, not that QNX was compromised
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/vault-7-cias-research-mission-to-hack-connected-cars-outlines-the-concerns-about-next-generation-cars-3699027.html
08:58 TR Bot; 7: CIA's research 'mission' to hack connected cars outlines the concerns about next generation cars- Technology News, Firstpost
08:58 mjg59_; The Vault 7 material was basically "The CIA are fucking incompetent compared to the NSA"
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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09:00 bagira; thats fair
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09:00 bagira; though i think youre probably giving the NSA too much credit
09:01 mjg59_; Oh, no, plenty of the Snowdon released stuff was genuinely impressive
09:02 mjg59_; I don't like the NSA, but I'll grudgingly respect their acumen
09:02 TR News; linuxgizmos still going after about 20 years, surviving the hostile takeover that killed desktoplinux.com (SJVN)
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://media.defense.gov/2020/Sep/15/2002497594/-1/-1/0/CTR-UEFI-Secure-Boot-Customization-UOO168873-20.PDF
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; Mendelsohn, Tom. "Secure Boot snafu: Microsoft leaks backdoor key, firmware flung wide
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; open." Ars Technica, Conde Nast, 11 Aug. 2016
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; Red Hat works for NSA
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; NSA and DoD biggest clients mtly likely
09:04 schestowitz[TR]; contracts not public
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; and Red Hat puts NSA code inside Linux
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; and other projects
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; I'd not trust them
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; and called them out on it since 2012
09:05 bagira; good gawd the irc protocol is clunky
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; before Snowden leaks
09:05 mjg59_; Yeah that Ars story was just wrong
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; defense.gov cites it
09:05 schestowitz[TR]; anyway
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; mcirosoft shilsl defend microsoft back doors
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; news at 11
09:06 mjg59_; Oh so now you trust the US government to tell you the truth
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; om u so leet!
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; your boyfriend works on US Navy project
09:08 Ariadne; boyfriend? i thought he was straight
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; selective (dubious) anonymity
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; tor
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; i never trusted tor
09:09 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: ...what gender do you believe my partner to be?
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; here we go again..
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; you tell me
09:09 mjg59_; Well, no, you just said "boyfriend"
09:09 mjg59_; Why?
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; i'll be posting links
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid this nonsensical divisive crap
09:10 mjg59_; Would you like to regret and rephrase that?
09:10 mjg59_; Or are you going to double down on misgendering?
09:10 TR News; Climate change is fuelling a spike in Lyme disease cases across Canada https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/climate-change-lyme-disease-canada-ticks-1.6862244
09:10 TR Bot; Climate change is fuelling a spike in Lyme disease cases across Canada | CBC News
09:10 bagira; mjg59_, i'll double down, woman
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09:10 mjg59_; bagira: Your phrasing isn't entirely clear there
09:11 TR News; Big Oil spun as the solution to... Big Oil usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-06-03/emirati-hosts-want-un-climate-talks-to-deliver-game-changing-results-with-big-oil-at-the-table
09:11 mjg59_; Are you calling me a woman?
09:11 TR News; Cuba might be capable, as profits aren't paramount https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/02/people-first-cubas-state-plan-to-confront-climate-change/
09:11 TR Bot; First: Cubas State Plan to Confront Climate Change - CounterPunch.org
09:12 techuser; Why can't we already get rid of this nonsense and all be "non-binary"?
09:12 TR News; "tourism industry"... travel ought not be an industry; change the economics of it? https://www.dw.com/en/can-germany-s-tourism-industry-become-climate-neutral/a-65724245
09:12 TR Bot; Germany's tourism industry become climate neutral? DW 06/02/2023
09:12 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
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09:12 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: i was talking about tech
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; NSA
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; back doors
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; tor
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; and here we are off topci again
09:12 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You were misgendering someone
09:13 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Why?
09:13 bagira; schestowitz[TR], she's mad that you're misgendering someone
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; i'm too tired for this
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; i read news now
09:13 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: If you're unwilling to defend saying it, why not apologise?
09:15 TR News; Climate change WILL destroy "Value"; so the insurance companies run away... as soon as they smell looming liabilities. So what's the POINT of this sector??? https://www.vox.com/climate/23746045/state-farm-california-climate-change-insurance-wildfire-florida-flood
09:15 TR Bot; Farm not accepting new insurance requests for California homes due to climate change - Vox
09:15 techuser; I don't know what to say here: yes, it is off-topic; but on the other hand, it seems that some mistakes are repeated.
09:15 TR News; More graft https://jacobin.com/2023/06/debt-ceiling-deal-permitting-reform-fossil-fuel-pipeline/
09:15 TR Bot; The Debt Ceiling Deal Fast-Tracks the Approval of a Climate-Killing Fossil Fuel Pipeline
09:17 TR News; 2008: hope, change. 2020. no hope, no change. Just "not Trump". That's it. Still funding destruction of nature and giving taxpayers' money to DeSantis campaign (Musk).
09:17 bagira; im hoping DeSantis beats Trump
09:17 bagira; biden is a grimy criminal and trump is a dangerous idiot
09:17 TR News; or maybe the human population is too large for other species to co-exist with us? https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/raw-oysters-vibrio-1.6862183
09:18 TR Bot; Why climate change might make you think twice about eating raw oysters this summer | CBC News
09:18 bagira; DeSantis isn't "great" but he's well intended and we need one of those for a breath
09:18 bagira; I say Desantis because Gabbard can't win.
09:18 TR News; AfD anti-science as a political strategy? https://www.dw.com/en/germany-s-far-right-afd-profits-from-climate-change-spat/a-65797438
09:18 TR Bot; far-right AfD profits from climate change spat DW 06/01/2023
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; is she even running?
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; in 2024?
09:19 bagira; im not sure. if she does its to raise funds, she has no chance.
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; pence will announce he's in
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; this week
09:19 bagira; lol @ pence
09:19 bagira; i just assumed everybody knew he was cloned to be a VP just that one time and will probably start melting soon
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 bagira; pence stands for nothing
09:20 TR News; Did they think they would work for an environmental(ist) rainforest when they applied for a job at "AMAZON"? https://gizmodo.com/amazon-climate-change-remote-work-return-to-office-1850492479
09:20 TR Bot; Amazon Employees Walk Out to Fight Back-to-Office Policy and Climate Change
09:21 TR News; Climate Equity Drive https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/05/31/striving-for-balance-pakistans-climate-equity-drive/
09:21 TR Bot; Striving for Balance: Pakistans Climate Equity Drive - Modern Diplomacy
09:21 TR News; Commuting harms the planet https://www.engadget.com/amazon-workers-walk-out-to-protest-return-to-office-mandates-and-the-companys-climate-impact-194937443.html
09:21 TR Bot; workers walk out to protest return to office mandates and the company's climate impact | Engadget
09:22 TR News; AWS harms the planet a lot more than Amazon workers commuting
09:22 TR News; BUT THE MONIES!! Think of all the money to be made!! We can "BUY" animals. https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/climate-change-can-cause-collapse-life-earth-claim-scientists-1716246
09:22 TR Bot; Climate change can cause a collapse of life on earth, claim scientists
09:23 TR News; 'Insurance' companies that RUN AWAY when they are needed MOST https://gizmodo.com/climate-change-state-farm-insurance-halts-california-1850487503
09:23 TR Bot; State Farm to Stop Selling Home Owner's Insurance in California
09:23 TR News; Insurance "sector" that insures itself against LOSSES
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09:24 TR News; But people moan about the price of energy... when oil companies proudly declare RECORD PROFITS https://jacobin.com/2023/05/adam-mckay-climate-change-fossil-fuels-government/
09:24 TR Bot; Adam McKay: Its Not Too Late to Demand a Sane Government Response to Climate Change
09:25 TR News; With all those storms maybe some patent stakeholders like Bill Gates will find a way to "monetise" them with turbines. More storms, more money!!! https://www.vox.com/climate/23738846/el-nino-2023-weather-heat-wave-climate-change-disaster-flood-rain
09:25 TR Bot; we now know about the 2023 El Nio - Vox
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09:26 TR News; Yes, people that DROWN have health problems... like being unable to breathe and stuff https://www.dw.com/en/india-how-is-climate-change-impacting-menstrual-health/a-65761484
09:26 TR Bot; How is climate change impacting menstrual health? DW 05/29/2023
09:26 TR News; Panama https://www.dw.com/en/will-climate-change-cut-off-the-panama-canal-and-global-supply-chains/a-65761965
09:26 TR Bot; change could cut off the Panama Canal DW 05/29/2023
09:28 TR News; ...when it comes to climate protests, the cops can catch criminals by being indoors with the workers, not outdoors with the activists. It's clear to 99% of the population who commits the truly ruinous crimes... that impact global society rather than some greedy shareholders in another country/state.
09:29 TR News; Cops should have Shell or BP or Exxon logos on their helmets to better identity their allegiance
09:32 TR News; Can Little Ukraine Teach Big America How to Deal with Our Oligarch Problem? https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/02/can-little-ukraine-teach-big-america-how-to-deal-with-our-oligarch-problem/
09:32 TR Bot; Little Ukraine Teach Big America How to Deal with Our Oligarch Problem? - CounterPunch.org
09:35 bagira; yeah this bing AI is crushing C++
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; "borrowed"
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; whose code is it?
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; what licence?
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; obfuscated enough?
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; what if you get caught?
09:35 bagira; its my code
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; do you know who might catch you?
09:36 bagira; it's not borrowed code its generated code with highly specific requirements
09:36 bagira; you might want to look at how these systems work a little deeper
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; you tread on shaky ground
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; with this "HEY HI" (plagiarism) thing
09:36 bagira; dude im socket programming in C++ its well established no sane person would do this
09:37 bagira; man it gets deep in there into the code too
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-542413.html
09:37 TR Bot; Theo de Raadt, "Linux stealing our code" [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums
09:37 bagira; the only gripe i have with it is the "30 post limit"
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-542413.html
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20070901041657
09:37 TR Bot; Theo Responds to License Modification
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: HEY HI? Not impressed :-)
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; https://uproxx.com/indie/sting-not-impressed-ai-a-battle/
09:38 TR Bot; Sting Is Not Impressed By AI, Preparing For 'A Battle'
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; autotune
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; not even a new trend
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; CG music
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; now with newer buzzwords
09:38 bagira; all i see is theo de raddt bitching about license removal
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; and paid media coverage
09:39 bagira; this has nothing to do with newly generated code
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: which is what MSFT does
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; omitting sources
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; and licences
09:39 bagira; rofl
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; same for all those HEY HI image generators
09:39 bagira; dude you are full of it on this, go look up how an ANN works
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; they make derivatives
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; and call it "fair use'
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; i worked with ANN 20+ years ago
09:40 bagira; like if this were code that was super generic and just only kinda did what i asked for, i'd see your point, it would be like lifting code from another source, but this is highly parameterized code that you wouldn't see int he wild
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; http://schestowitz.com/Research/ML
09:40 TR Bot; Machine Learning
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; 2003
09:40 bagira; like there is no way someone would have designed what i just told it to build
09:41 TR News; Koreans controlled by hostile Chinese regime (aligned with N Korea) https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/tiktok-celebrates-10-years-of-bts/
09:41 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/tiktok-celebrates-10-years-of-bts/ )
09:42 TR News; The early scramble to prepare for hurricane season https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/hurricane-season-preparation-extreme-weather
09:42 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/hurricane-season-preparation-extreme-weather )
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: go to sourceforce
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; or similar
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; search foir similar project
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; check licence
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; hack away
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; you can reuse whole bits of it
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; if the licence matches
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: several ways to go about other than the above
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; example:
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; find a framework
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; uses the APIs
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; or contribute upstream
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; like many do with kernel.org
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; usually hardware companies
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; so they don't have to write their own from scratch
09:45 bagira; that would actually be way slower than just writing it myself
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; your approach will result in
09:45 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Why did you misgender my partner?
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; 1) misunderstood 'code'
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; 2) full of bugs
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; 3) unknown sources
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: your repertiore bores everyone. you're a transphobe trying to call everyone that
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; I was talking about Tor and NSA
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; but you are not interested in tech
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; because you faciliytate the back doors
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; and so does your partner perhaps
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to links
09:47 bagira; mjg59_, here, i'll do it, your partner is a woman. fight me.
09:48 bagira; so are you for that matter
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; back to tech
09:48 bagira; yep
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; so we are coding better ways to navigate the www
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; and gemini
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; to extract info
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; it's mostly simple code
09:49 bagira; honestly i dont know why you're not divesting from gemini
09:49 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: If you're not transphobic, why did you misgender my partner?
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; so easy to follow
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; nothingn fancy like C
09:49 bagira; nobody uses gemini
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; interpreted code is faster to debug anyway
09:49 bagira; interpreted code has good use cases. this is not one of them.
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: oh! you'd be surprised
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; you probably never used it
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; C is good for final programs
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; not prototypes
09:50 bagira; i like C but I think in objects
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; gnu octave is good for prototyping
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; reuse in C++ is harder
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; and APIs better
09:50 bagira; I hate C++ but it gives me that. Objective-C looks promising but i'd be concerned about runtime availability in some uses
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; but you can go python or perl
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; no more gcc and makefiles
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; or machine with 8 cores
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; <bagira> nobody uses gemini
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; /gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; 18905 reqs | 2023 / 06 / 01
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; 19930 reqs | 2023 / 06 / 02
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; 19104 reqs | 2023 / 06 / 03
09:53 bagira; 404 bub
09:53 schestowitz[TR]; 20k requests a day
09:53 bagira; though those numbers are amazing
09:54 schestowitz[TR]; must be "yo mama"
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09:54 bagira; heh i just built something cool :)
09:54 schestowitz[TR]; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed/
09:54 bagira; i cant see those links
09:55 TR News; "As a recent Qubes OS user, but also a NixOS user, I want to be able to reproduce my system configuration instead of fiddling with files everywhere by hand and being clueless about what I changed since the installation time." gopher://dataswamp.org:70/1/~solene/article-reproducible-config-mgmt-qubes-os
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: what distros?
09:55 mjg59_; Python is, somewhat obviously, going to consume more CPU at runtime than C code is
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; I will help you with a quick link
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; it might be in your repos
09:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: If you're not transphobic, why did you misgender my partner?
09:56 bagira; schestowitz[TR], nah its an irc bot with a splintering pattern
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=telescope.git
09:56 TR Bot; op public repos
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; this is quite distroi-agnostic
09:56 bagira; about to start work on a log aggregation system project ive been spinning on the backburner
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; ssh://anon@git.omarpolo.com/telescope.git
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; https://git.omarpolo.com/telescope.git
09:57 bagira; i have to take breaks from one project to work on another so i dont burn out
09:57 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://git.omarpolo.com/telescope.git )
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; ram consumption under 1MB
09:57 bagira; im also not a one trick pony
09:58 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/review-telescope/
09:58 TR Bot; Review of Telescope, an Awesome and Very Lightweight Gemini Browser | Techrights
09:58 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/07/01/gemini-telescope/
09:58 TR Bot; Telescope is Probably One of the Lightest Gemini Clients/Browsers Out There (One Megabyte of RAM) | Techrights
10:02 TR News; Hong Kong's loss of rights looms as Taiwan commemorates Tiananmen https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/hong-kong-taiwan-tiananmen-anniversary
10:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/hong-kong-taiwan-tiananmen-anniversary )
10:05 TR News; Dozens Of Supporters Detained As Kremlin Foe Navalny Turns 47 In Prison https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navalny-birthday-prison/32443924.html
10:05 TR Bot; Dozens Of Supporters Detained As Kremlin Foe Navalny Turns 47 In Prison
10:08 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 04, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/05/irc-log-040623/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/05/irc-log-040623/
10:08 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 04, 2023 | Techrights
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10:12 bagirabot; test
10:12 phanesbot; test
10:13 bagira; not bad
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10:16 schestowitz[TR]; "if i dare say so myself...
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; are you "winning"?
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, bbl
10:16 bagira; well, it does what i need it to
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; cycling for a bit
10:17 bagira; its a barebones event-driven irc client that captures all server events it observes to json and spits it out where i want it. next is message queue
10:18 bagira; might end up being forced to use kafka because of volume projections
10:19 bagira; the real test is having the slaves connect to another network and controlling them from another
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 bagira; which technically its already doing
10:21 bagira; its just using the same server for both master and slave
10:21 bagira; no external dependencies, just need libstdc++
10:21 bagira; so a little work with shodan is in order
10:22 bagira; after i finish this control interface
10:22 bagira; (not that kind of control, mjg59_)
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:19 GGGGgggg; faggots
12:19 GGGGgggg; hhi
12:19 GGGGgggg; lol
12:19 GGGGgggg; <3
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 TR News; MORE debt, now let's relax with debt https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/debt-ceiling-swing-districts-vulnerable-congress
12:20 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/debt-ceiling-swing-districts-vulnerable-congress )
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> I need to score.
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> and get seriously fucking shitfaced.
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> the other night or day fuck knows I wasn't even there.
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> I believe I left some laboratory apparatus in the mcdonald's.
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> was going to use it for some things...
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> I WAS CARRYING THAT HEAVY FUCKING THING AROUND FOR LIKE TWO DAYS!
12:20 GGGGgggg; <FlyingSubmarine> fuck, right?
12:20 schestowitz[TR]; enough.
12:21 schestowitz[TR]; come back when you are sober
12:23 TR News; The straw man. Electronic voting machines are junk. Not only Trump supporters said so for decades. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/technology/voting-machines-election-deniers.html
12:23 TR Bot; These Activists Distrust Voting Machines. Just Dont Call Them Election Deniers. - The New York Times
12:23 TR News; Censorship reflexes backfire on the fundamentalists https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/us/utah-bible-book-ban.html
12:23 TR Bot; The Bible and Book of Mormon Challenged Under Utah Book Ban Law - The New York Times
12:30 *GGGGgggg has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; talking to my MP this morning
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; this scandal will explode quite badly
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; very high level now
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; Ombuds, Home Office, London City
12:34 TR News; Censoring culture for the oligarchy, which turns the citizens against one another https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/business/media/disney-sean-bailey-live-action.html
12:34 TR Bot; The Man Reimagining Disney Classics for Todays World - The New York Times
12:39 TR News; A JetBlue/Spirit Merger Will Make Air Travel (Even) More Miserable https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/opinion/summer-air-travel-jetblue-spirit-airlines.html
12:39 TR Bot; Opinion | A JetBlue/Spirit Merger Will Make Air Travel (Even) More Miserable - The New York Times
12:39 TR News; This Pill Can Halve The Risk of Death After Lung Cancer, Scientists Say https://www.sciencealert.com/this-pill-can-halve-the-risk-of-death-after-lung-cancer-scientists-say
12:39 TR Bot; Pill Can Halve The Risk of Death After Lung Cancer, Scientists Say : ScienceAlert
12:41 TR News; (NEW): blendOS 3 Promises Support for 9 Linux Distros, Repositoryless Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/blendOS_3_Promises_Support_for_9_Linux_Distros_Repositoryless_U.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/blendOS_3_Promises_Support_for_9_Linux_Distros_Repositoryless_U.gmi
12:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines blendOS 3 Promises Support for 9 Linux Distros, Repositoryless Updates
12:43 TR News; Abnormal Surge of Brain Abscesses in American Children, CDC Says https://www.sciencealert.com/abnormal-surge-of-brain-abscesses-in-american-children-cdc-says
12:43 TR Bot; Surge of Brain Abscesses in American Children, CDC Says : ScienceAlert
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; "Then, the global COVID-19 pandemic hit the world in March 2020, and countries around the world began introducing measures to try to reduce the spread of infection, including wearing masks, using respirators to curtail aerosol transmission, and lockdowns, in which entire regions were confined to their homes to reduce person-to-person contact.
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; "
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; experiment now
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; check the outcome later
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; mass infection as a strategy
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; ThinkOfTheChildren
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:59 TR News; Pooh-tin doesn't joke around... https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/04/hong-kong-police-impound-sports-car-with-8964-license-plate-on-tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary/
12:59 TR Bot; Hong Kong police impound sports car with '8964' licence plate on Tiananmen crackdown anniversary - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
13:00 TR News; Tennis has been too politicised. People in whites hitting a ball and treated like they're political spokespeople.
13:02 TR News; Divisive politics are dooming sport and now we have terrorists and chauvinists buying not only the biggest clubs but also the biggest tournaments
13:03 TR News; The way things are going, we'll move from "no, sorry, I'm not into politics" to "no, sorry, I'm not into sports"
13:04 TR News; Sport should be about _personal_ or team achievements, not national politics. But that's changing fast.
13:06 TR News; "Chat on IRC with ESR, the Emacs IRC client. Use the ZNC IRC bouncer to stay 24x7 online." https://box.matto.nl/use-erc-and-znc-to-chat-on-irc-with-emacs.html | Source: MJ Fransen
13:06 TR Bot; ERC and ZNC to chat on IRC with Emacs - box.matto.nl
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; ESR
13:06 TR News; "This sparked a discussion that touched on having exporters randomly pick their TCP port when they start and being set up in Prometheus through some service discovery mechanism" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PrometheusExportersFixedPorts | Source: University of Toronto
13:07 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PrometheusExportersFixedPorts
13:08 TR News; "I recommend reading his article before my response, as I wont be replying to every point raised." https://theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2023/06/04/response-to-developers-are-lazy-thus-flatpak.html | Source: Hari Rana
13:08 TR Bot; Response to Developers are lazy, thus Flatpak | TheEvilSkeleton
13:19 TR News; "In this post, I showed how to preview GitLab Pages and share the previews URL with teammates in a couple of steps." https://blog.frankel.ch/gitlab-pages-preview/ | Source: Nicolas Frnkel
13:19 TR Bot; GitLab Pages preview
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:26 TR News; Python https://www.devever.net/~hl/kvm | Source: Devever
13:27 TR News; "review bombing" https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/little-mermaid-review-bombing-1.6864613 | Source: CBC
13:27 TR Bot; The Little Mermaid's 'review bombing' is just a sign of what's to come | CBC News
13:27 TR News; "This is a moment for the global community to come together" https://gizmodo.com/ai-chatgpt-biological-weapon-nuclear-bomb-ai-laws-1850496771 | Source: Gizmodo
13:27 TR Bot; Treat ChatGPT and AI Like Bio Weapons, Not Nuclear Bombs
13:28 TR News; "new initiative by the European Space Agency (ESA) and Global Organic Textile Standard (GOTS)" https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/satellite-images-and-ai-to-help-detect-organic-cotton-fields/article66927464.ece | Source: The Hindu
13:28 TR Bot; Satellite images and AI to help detect organic-cotton fields - The Hindu
13:30 *GGGGgggg (~GGGGgggg@n6wg49evqyhfk.irc) has joined #techrights
13:41 TR News; Proprietary: "All of this sudden concern raises several questions" https://english.elpais.com/science-tech/2023-06-03/why-are-the-people-who-pushed-for-artificial-intelligence-now-signing-so-many-doomsday-manifestos.html | Source: El Pas
13:41 TR Bot; Why are the people who pushed for artificial intelligence now signing so many doomsday manifestos? | Science & Tech | EL PAS English
13:42 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/rhysida-ransomware-group-claims-attack-on-martinique/ | Source: Data Breaches
13:42 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/rhysida-ransomware-group-claims-attack-on-martinique/ )
13:44 TR News; "Snowden said when he landed in Moscow in 2013, he expected to have a one-day layover in Moscow." https://text.npr.org/1176747650 | Source: NPR
13:44 TR Bot; A decade on, Edward Snowden remains in Russia, though U.S. laws have changed
13:48 TR News; "Election integrity advocates, like Ms. Friesdat, now find themselves in an uncomfortable position, pushing for election security while sometimes amplifying claims made most vocally by conspiracy theorists, including those involved in the so-called Stop the Steal movement." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/technology/voting-machines-election-deniers.html | Source: New York Times
13:48 TR Bot; These Activists Distrust Voting Machines. Just Dont Call Them Election Deniers. - The New York Times
13:49 TR News; "The gist is that people who grew up very rurally (as I did) can have a hard time adapting to the city life, and [Internet] life." https://idiomdrottning.org/the-secular-internet | Source: Idiomdrottning
13:49 TR Bot; The Secular Internet
13:51 TR News; The shitty media promotes misconceptions while calling "misinformation" everything but itself, even when that media itself promotes lies every so often
13:51 TR News; "HEY HI" as cover for disinformation https://www.vox.com/technology/23746060/ai-generative-fake-images-photoshop-google-microsoft-adobe | Source: Vox
↺ https://www.vox.com/technology/23746060/ai-generative-fake-images-photoshop-google-microsoft-adobe
13:51 TR Bot; Google, Microsoft, and Adobe are trying to stop AI from flooding the internet with garbage - Vox
13:51 TR News; disinformation https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/06/05/voicing-against-disinformation/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
13:51 TR Bot; Voicing Against Disinformation - Modern Diplomacy
13:54 TR News; [Old] "There was always a huge risk of being arrested and having film confiscated" https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/05/world/tiananmen-square-tank-man-cnnphotos/ | Source: CNN
13:54 TR Bot; The story behind the iconic Tank Man photo
13:55 TR News; [Old] "Chinese troops moved into the capital from all sides on June 3 and attacked unarmed protesters with automatic fire, clubs, and bayonets." https://www.outlookindia.com/international/explained-the-tiananmen-square-massacre-the-protests-that-chinese-military-crushed-and-tank-man-news-200243 | Source: Outlook India
13:55 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.outlookindia.com/international/explained-the-tiananmen-square-massacre-the-protests-that-chinese-military-crushed-and-tank-man-news-200243 )
13:55 TR News; "Hong Kong police searched and detained scores of people on Sunday" https://www.rfa.org/english/multimedia/tiananmen-commemorations-06042023144237.html | Source: RFA
13:55 TR Bot; Tiananmen commemorations in Hong Kong stifled, but other cities keep memory alive Radio Free Asia
13:55 *GGGGgggg has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
13:55 TR News; "Russian authorities amid their tightening crackdown on dissent" https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-cellist-deported-brother-anti-war/32444194.html | Source: RFERL
13:55 TR Bot; 'I Want To Return Before My 75th Birthday': The Armenian-Russian Cellist Banned From Russia For 50 Years Over Brother's Anti-War Activism
13:55 TR News; Maoism? https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-german-taghavi-mohammadi/32444153.html | Source: RFERL
13:55 TR Bot; German Jailed In Iran's Life 'In Danger,' Fellow Prisoner Says
13:59 TR News; "[...] Girls are banned from education beyond sixth grade. [...]" https://www.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-girls-poisoned/32444237.html | Source: RFERL
13:59 TR Bot; Official: Almost 80 Schoolgirls Poisoned, Hospitalized In Northern Afghanistan
14:03 bnchs; hahahaha
14:03 bnchs; "congrats, you have graduated 6th grade"
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; "girld are stupid"
14:03 bnchs; "that means, HEY! NO MORE EDUCATION BITCH
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; say men who deny them education
14:03 bnchs; ^
14:04 bnchs; men who ban education: "girls are so dumb"
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; self-fulfilling prophecy
14:04 bnchs; this is arbitrary
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; and they are worse off
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; just giving them basic literacy
14:04 bnchs; girls are arbitrarily dumb because men ban their education beyond 6th grade
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; and then having no helping hand
14:05 bnchs; yes
14:06 bnchs; it's unfair
14:06 TR News; Ben Roberts-Smith IS a war criminal, NOT a hero. He's also SLAPPing. https://michaelwest.com.au/ben-roberts-smith-had-motives-to-lie-about-murders/ | Source: Michael West Media
14:06 TR Bot; Ben Roberts-Smith had 'motives to lie' about murders - Michael West
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; meet gulagboy
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; he threatsns people who call him out
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; on abusive behaviour
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: they want child bearers
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; *bnchs
14:08 TR News; "Powering more than 8000 homes for two hours, or 700 homes for a whole day" https://michaelwest.com.au/phillip-island-battery-puts-community-in-pole-position/ | Source: Michael West Media
14:08 TR Bot; Phillip Island battery puts community in pole position - Michael West
14:08 bnchs; lol
14:08 bnchs; girls aren't allowed to be too smart
14:09 bnchs; because then... they'll actually LEAVE their men
14:09 bnchs; instead of being dependent on men because nobody takes them seriously
14:10 TR News; Very low "rise"; inflation factored in, their salary is in effect still reduced https://michaelwest.com.au/nsw-workers-offered-4pc-pay-rise-as-inflation-stings/ | Source: Michael West Media
14:10 TR Bot; NSW workers offered 4pc pay rise as inflation stings - Michael West
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; bagira: it's not even that
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; i doubt that is the real motivation there
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; being beating up, sans gaslighting
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; *beatenb\
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; *beaten
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's about competition
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; and subjugation
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; in capitalism, it's a pyramid
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; in taliban rule
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; each men gets at least one vassal
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; at least one
14:11 bnchs; yes
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; *man
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; then come 10 kids
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; they can become vassals also
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; it's like "incestuous" feudalism
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; every dad is a "manager"
14:13 schestowitz[TR]; mom is "factory manager"
14:13 schestowitz[TR]; baby factory
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; the kids raise one another
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; 'free' babysitters
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; "gig" economy
14:15 bnchs; lol, you see guys with multiple wives
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; yes
14:15 bnchs; they treat them like property
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; big factory
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; several factory managers
14:15 bnchs; it's halal version of being a pimp
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; M &A
14:15 bnchs; except
14:15 bnchs; theyre all for you
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; mergers and acquisitions
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/0601/Jordan-s-royal-wedding-Joy-politics-and-an-eye-toward-the-kingdom-s-future"
14:16 TR Bot; royal wedding: Joy, politics, and an eye on kingdoms future - CSMonitor.com
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://federalnewsnetwork.com/world-news/2023/06/jordans-future-king-saudi-bride-to-tie-the-knot-in-palace-ceremony-signal
14:20 TR Bot; Jordans crown prince weds scion of Saudi family in ceremony packed with stars and symbolism | Federal News Network
14:20 bnchs; lol
14:20 schestowitz[TR]; M & A
14:20 schestowitz[TR]; "gimme babies, BITCH:
14:20 schestowitz[TR]; sphere of influence"
14:20 bnchs; they're "bitches" for the pimp
14:21 bnchs; but instead of being a prostitue for others and giving money back to the pimp
14:21 bnchs; they give babies back to the pimp
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan
14:21 TR Bot; Genghis Khan - Wikipedia
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; mass rapist
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; maybe biggest rapist in history
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; stuck in sperm in many women
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; to spread his "egenes"
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; to this date
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; columbus was fucking loadsm of kids
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; in "America"
14:21 schestowitz[TR]; which he 'discovered"
14:22 schestowitz[TR]; stuck his dick in every little girl he could find
14:22 schestowitz[TR]; US names a day after him
14:22 schestowitz[TR]; and celeberaes him as national hero
14:22 schestowitz[TR]; https://homework.study.com/explanation/how-many-kids-did-genghis-khan-have.html
14:22 TR Bot; many kids did Genghis Khan have? | Homework.Study.com
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; "Genghis Khan was absolutely a rapist, as historical accounts of the Mongol conquests and his own genetic imprint on the world proves."
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://homework.study.com/explanation/was-genghis-khan-a-rapist.html
14:23 TR Bot; Genghis Khan a rapist? | Homework.Study.com
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://homework.study.com/explanation/how-many-women-did-genghis-khan-rape.html
14:23 TR Bot; many women did Genghis Khan rape? | Homework.Study.com
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ADescent_from_Genghis_Khan
14:23 TR Bot; Talk:Family and descendants of Genghis Khan - Wikipedia
14:23 bnchs; damn
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; "Talk"
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; where the revisionists fight
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; maybe China can blackmail wikipedia for some censorship there
14:23 bnchs; well, on the bright side
14:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.history.co.uk/articles/brutal-acts-of-genghis-khan-and-his-successors
14:23 TR Bot; 8 brutal acts of Genghis Khan and his successors | Sky HISTORY TV Channel
14:24 bnchs; he holds the world record for the rapist speedrun
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/mongolia-genghis-khan-dna
14:24 TR Bot; Genghis Khan a Prolific Lover, DNA Data Implies
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; LOL!
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; "PROLIFC LOVER"
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; mass rapist
14:24 bnchs; lol prolific lover
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
14:24 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; shagged many girld
14:24 bnchs; he's not a rapist
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; that much we know
14:24 bnchs; he's just a prolific lover
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; how many were under age we don't know
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe will never know
14:24 bnchs; y'know, he likes to spread his love everywhere
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.nationalgeographic.com | Genghis Khan a Prolific Lover, DNA Data Implies
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; he spreads his DNA
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; with a sword to your neck
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; better open up
14:25 bnchs; hope your body accepts his love
14:25 bnchs; or your head will surely come off
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; "cultural differences"
14:26 TR News; "Major employment groups have joined forces to hit out at the governments labour hire worker reforms." https://michaelwest.com.au/labors-same-job-same-pay-policy-is-unfair-business-2/ | Source: Michael West Media
14:26 TR Bot; Labor's 'same job, same pay' policy is unfair: business - Michael West
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/07/29/christopher-columbus-statue-philly-matthew-restall/
14:27 TR Bot; Christopher Columbus Statue Philly: Who Was the Real Columbus?
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://panthernow.com/2017/10/08/the-celebration-of-columbus-day-skews-the-truth-of-history/
14:27 TR Bot; celebration of Columbus Day skews the truth of history - PantherNOW
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/227763.pdf
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.newsclick.in/christopher-columbus-genocidal-rapist-and-paedophile
14:28 TR Bot; Christopher Columbus: Genocidal Rapist and a Paedophile | NewsClick
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://medium.com/@misshippie/christopher-columbus-was-a-pedophil-5ead91ccd426
14:29 TR Bot; Celebrating a Pedophile. Murderer, Rapist, Thief, Pedophile. | by Kaitlin Adams | Medium
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; Bill gates Says...
14:29 TR News; "Japan's largest manga piracy site 13DL is no more." https://torrentfreak.com/japans-largest-manga-piracy-site-shuts-down-following-cloudflare-probe-230605/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:29 TR Bot; Largest Manga Piracy Site Shuts Down Following Cloudflare Probe * TorrentFreak
14:30 TR News; "Through several lawsuits, Danish publishers tried to send a clear message" https://torrentfreak.com/high-prices-make-textbook-piracy-acceptable-to-most-students-230604/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:30 TR Bot; Prices Make Textbook 'Piracy' Acceptable to Most Students * TorrentFreak
14:30 bnchs; NOOO HOW DARE YOU 'PIRATE' MY TEXTBOOKS
14:30 bnchs; EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; knowledge monopolies
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; they seem to have squashed momentum around open access
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; and crack down hard on activists who liberated info
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; even those based on former soviet satellite states
14:33 bnchs; lol, i know it's a dumb comparsion, but in here i saw an original PS4 game disc that cost 1000 dh
14:34 bnchs; like jesus fucking christ, 1000 dh for a bunch of data
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; we need to change that
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; or at least try to
14:36 TR News; How to Setup Dynamic NFS Provisioning in Kubernetes Cluster https://www.linuxtechi.com/dynamic-nfs-provisioning-kubernetes/ | Source: LinuxTechi
14:36 TR Bot; How to Setup Dynamic NFS Provisioning in Kubernetes Cluster
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; the litigation campaigns took the wind out of many sails
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; and aaron swartz killed himself
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; after lots of legal blackmail
14:37 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about namespaces." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2023/06/04/episode-378-naming-things-is-harder-than-security/ | Source: Open Source Security (Audio Show)
14:37 TR Bot; Episode 378 Naming things is harder than security Open Source Security
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla_Open_Access_Manifesto
14:37 TR Bot; Guerilla Open Access Manifesto - Wikipedia
14:38 schestowitz[TR]; https://archive.org/details/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto
14:38 TR Bot; Guerilla Open Access Manifesto : Aaron Swartz : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
14:38 schestowitz[TR]; https://archive.org/download/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008.pdf
14:38 TR News; "HP printers now BLOCK you from using aftermarket ink!" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/hp-printers-now-block-you-from-using:0
14:38 TR Bot; HP printers now BLOCK you from using aftermarket ink!
14:42 TR News; tobacco https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/tech-giants-cashing-in-on-climate-delay-fuels-demand-for-tobacco-style-ad-ban/
14:42 TR Bot; Tech Giants Cashing In on Climate Delay Fuels Demand for Tobacco-Style Ad Ban neritam
14:42 TR News; Sportwashing blood and beheaded necks/people https://www.hindustantimes.com/sports/football/lionel-messi-set-to-overtake-cristiano-ronaldo-as-world-s-highest-paid-athlete-as-saudi-delegation-arrives-in-paris-101685952056952.html
14:42 TR Bot; Lionel Messi set to overtake Cristiano Ronaldo as worlds highest-paid athlete | Football News - Hindustan Times
14:43 TR News; chatcontrol https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2023/06/04/stoppa-chatcontrol-maila-dina-politiker/
14:43 TR Bot; Stoppa Chatcontrol maila dina politiker
14:45 TR News; windows tco www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-06-05/computer-outage-cripples-train-traffic-in-the-netherlands
14:46 *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights
14:50 TR News; navalny gagged by extension, too https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/06/04/at-least-90-people-arrested-in-russia-for-demonstrating-in-support-of-navalny | Source: Meduza
14:50 TR Bot; At least 90 people arrested in Russia for demonstrating in support of Navalny Meduza
14:52 TR News; encryption is NOT a crime; if you can people in private OFFLINE, why not ONLINE too? https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-of-encryption-the-8-december-case/ | Source: La Quadature Du Net
14:52 TR Bot; Criminalization of encryption : the 8 december case La Quadrature du Net
14:52 TR News; blinken should send ALL his kids to this war, then make the call on the policy https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/04/blinken-dismisses-calls-for-a-ceasefire-says-us-must-build-up-ukraines-military/ | Source: Scheerpost
14:52 TR Bot; Dismisses Calls for a Ceasefire, Says US Must Build Up Ukraines Military - scheerpost.com
14:53 TR News; US as an economy and country is finished. Way too much debt. All the money in few hands, like post-USSR Russia. Now pushing for MOAR conflict in Ukraine and Taiwan. Wonder why...
14:54 TR News; (NEW): Firefox 114 Released with Revamped DNS over HTTPS Feature, Cookie Banner Reduction http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Firefox_114_Released_with_Revamped_DNS_over_HTTPS_Feature_Cooki.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Firefox_114_Released_with_Revamped_DNS_over_HTTPS_Feature_Cooki.gmi
14:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Firefox 114 Released with Revamped DNS over HTTPS Feature, Cookie Banner Reduction
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15:02 TR News; "Alexey Navalny celebrated his 47th birthday in an isolation cell in a penal colony" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/04/the-day-will-come-when-speaking-the-truth-is-ordinary-in-russia | Source: Meduza
15:02 TR Bot; The day will come when speaking the truth is ordinary in Russia On his birthday, Navalny sent a message to his supporters and fellow political prisoners. Meduza is sharing his remarks in full in English. Meduza
15:02 TR News; turkmenistan https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/05/dogged-and-determined-reporters-how-journalism-persists-in-turkmenistan | Source: Meduza
15:02 TR Bot; Dogged and determined reporters: How journalism persists in Turkmenistan Meduza
15:04 TR News; "US citizen Gonzalo Lira faces a long prison term in Ukraine for criticizing the countrys government." https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/04/father-of-gonzalo-lira-american-jailed-in-ukraine-speaks-out-against-political-imprisonment/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:04 TR Bot; of Gonzalo Lira, American Jailed in Ukraine, Speaks Out Against 'Political Imprisonment' - scheerpost.com
15:09 TR News; homeownership https://www.thenation.com/article/society/case-against-home-ownership/ | Source: The Nation
15:09 TR Bot; The Case Against Homeownership | The Nation
15:14 TR News; (NEW): Resonance Rust-based music player http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Resonance_Rust_based_music_player.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Resonance_Rust_based_music_player.gmi
15:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Resonance Rust-based music player
15:16 TR News; "The [oligarchs-owned] mainstream media and establishment pundits hail it as a revival of the vital center" (more graft, passage of PUBLIC DEBT into oligarchs' OFFSHORE tax-evading bank accounts) https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/once-more-the-bizarre-washington-debt-ceiling-ritual-ends-in-a-lousy-deal/ | Source: The Nation
15:16 TR Bot; Once More, the Washington Debt Ceiling Ritual Ends in a Lousy Deal | The Nation
15:18 TR News; peru https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/05/journalists-for-sale-us-troops-to-peru-castillos-coup-and-the-future-of-latin-america-w-ben-norton/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:18 TR Bot; for Sale: US Troops to Peru, Castillos Coup and the Future of Latin America (w/ Ben Norton) - scheerpost.com
15:19 TR News; hypercentric cam https://hackaday.com/2023/06/04/make-yourself-a-megamind-with-a-hypercentric-camera/ | Source: Hackaday
15:19 TR Bot; Yourself A Megamind With A Hypercentric Camera | Hackaday
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15:19 TR News; videoconferencing for animals humans leveraged for entertainment in confinement... like private little circuses https://hackaday.com/2023/06/04/it-turns-out-parrots-love-videoconferencing/ | Source: Hackaday
15:19 TR Bot; Turns Out Parrots Love Videoconferencing | Hackaday
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:21 TR News; but when the world needed him most, he vanished gemini://commie.space/blog/ok/
15:22 TR News; "as ive described, im gonna be including some of my letterboxd reviews where they appear to fit into the theme of this blog, and this is definitely one such post. it deals with the legacy of trumpism (and centrist reactions to that legacy) in the biden era" gemini://commie.space/blog/batman/
15:23 TR News; First post on smol.pub! gemini://pinkvampyr.smol.pub/first-post-on-smol-pub "I don't know who, if anyone, will be reading this, but if you're reading right now then hello! My name is Claire"
15:23 TR News; SpellBinding: YIJLOVA Wordo: HIKED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-06-05.gmi
15:24 TR News; "It's surprisingly hard to get this right. I feel like I need this in order to use `ed` as the editor for `tin`, my current news client." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2023-06-05%20Text%20wrapping%20a%20mail%20or%20new%20message
15:25 TR News; New ship in Cosmic Voyage - Lantashi Dance gemini://lantashifiles.com/gemlog/entries/2023-06-05.gmi
15:25 schestowitz[TR]; back in 2 hours
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:33 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/apple-goggles/
17:33 TR Bot; 'Just stop!': MSNBC's Mika cracks up as reporter defends Apple's new $3,000 mixed-reality goggles - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism
17:35 AdmFubar; https://restofworld.org/2023/india-job-crisis-scams-spike/
17:35 TR Bot; Indias job crisis is causing an uptick in job scams - Rest of World
17:39 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/mass-exploitation-0-day-bug-imoveit-file-transfer-underway
17:39 TR Bot; Mass Exploitation of Zero-Day Bug in MOVEit File Transfer Underway
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17:49 TR News; deforestation https://michaelwest.com.au/call-for-no-deforestation-conditions-on-bank-loans/ | Source: Michael West Media
17:49 TR Bot; Call for 'no deforestation' conditions on bank loans - Michael West
17:52 TR News; "moderating"... another propaganda term from AP https://michaelwest.com.au/inflation-moderating-despite-latest-uptick-chalmers/ | Source: Michael West Media
17:52 TR Bot; Inflation 'moderating' despite latest uptick: Chalmers - Michael West
17:53 TR News; "If you want to start a heated discussion in 3D printing circles, ask people about the requirements to print safely." https://hackaday.com/2023/06/04/3d-printing-safety-according-to-the-ul/ | Source: Hackaday
17:53 TR Bot; Printing Safety (According To The UL) | Hackaday
17:53 TR News; "Dont be so hasty" https://hackaday.com/2023/06/05/protect-vintage-gear-with-easy-capacitor-reforming/ | Source: Hackaday
17:53 TR Bot; Vintage Gear With Easy Capacitor Reforming | Hackaday
17:59 TR News; US gets more divided over time, maybe owing to partisan "media" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/us/state-legislatures-opposite-agendas.html
17:59 TR Bot; In a Contentious Lawmaking Season, Red States Got Redder and Blue Ones Bluer - The New York Times
18:04 TR News; Too costly? Extreme weather is weakening the insurance safety net https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/too-costly-extreme-weather-is-weakening-the-insurance-safety-net
18:04 TR Bot; Too costly? Extreme weather is weakening the insurance safety net | The Straits Times
18:04 TR News; Child Labor Is on the Rise https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/12/child-labor-is-on-the-rise
18:04 TR Bot; Child Labor Is on the Rise | The New Yorker
18:06 TR News; Lenovo Yoga Book 9i Review: Pulling Double Duty https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lenovo-yoga-book-9i
18:06 TR Bot; Lenovo Yoga Book 9i Review: Pulling Double Duty | Tom's Hardware
18:06 TR News; Giant Raspberry Pi Nose Sniffs Objects, Sneezes Out a Printed Report https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-nose-sniffs-things
18:06 TR Bot; Giant Raspberry Pi Nose Sniffs Objects, Sneezes Out a Printed Report | Tom's Hardware
18:07 TR News; Ruining a fine product with proprietary spyware of Microsoft; the hype and the nonsense up on display https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-big-mouth-billy-bass-chatgpt
18:07 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Brings Big Mouth Billy Bass to Life With ChatGPT | Tom's Hardware
18:08 TR News; "America has paid a steep price for devoting too much space to storing cars." https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/07/cars-parking-take-up-street-space-cities/674174/
18:08 TR Bot; How Parking Ruined Everything - The Atlantic
18:09 TR News; The Era of Flush State Budgets Is Over https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/state-budgets-federal-funding-california-new-york/674264/
18:09 TR Bot; The Era of Flush State Budgets Is Over - The Atlantic
18:11 TR News; Good policy, but for the wrong reasons https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/senegal-bans-social-media-amid-deadly-clashes-between-police-and-protesters/
18:11 TR Bot; Senegal bans social media amid deadly clashes between police and protesters - JURIST - News
18:12 TR News; Huge police deployment thwarts Tiananmen crackdown commemorations as Hongkongers arrested over candles, clothes, slogans https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/04/breaking-hong-kong-police-deploy-en-masse-as-tiananmen-crackdown-commemorations-muted/
18:12 TR Bot; Huge police deployment thwarts Tiananmen crackdown commemorations as Hongkongers detained over candles, clothes, slogans - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
18:14 TR News; Hong Kong is absurd: As some try to mark Tiananmen crackdown anniversary, others enjoy patriotic festival https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/04/hong-kong-is-absurd-as-some-mark-anniversary-of-tiananmen-crackdown-others-enjoy-patriotic-event/
18:14 TR Bot; 'Hong Kong is absurd': As some try to mark Tiananmen crackdown anniversary, others enjoy patriotic festival - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
18:17 TR News; Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week with OTXO and CONVERGENCE: A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS STORY 2023-06-04 Edition https://boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-with-otxo-and-convergence-a-league-of-legends-story-2023-06-04-edition/
18:17 TR Bot; Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week with OTXO and CONVERGENCE: A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS STORY - 2023-06-04 Edition - Boiling Steam
18:18 TR News; A Legendary Lost City Swallowed By The Ocean Has Been Found https://www.sciencealert.com/a-legendary-lost-city-swallowed-by-the-ocean-has-been-found
18:18 TR Bot; Legendary Lost City Swallowed By The Ocean Has Been Found : ScienceAlert
18:19 TR News; Four of the worlds top 10 populous economies driving IPv6 adoption https://blog.apnic.net/2023/06/05/four-of-the-worlds-top-10-populous-economies-driving-ipv6-adoption/
18:19 TR Bot; Four of the worlds top 10 populous economies driving IPv6 adoption | APNIC Blog
18:19 TR News; Hong Kong Remembered June 4 Tiananmen Massacre, Until It Couldnt https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/world/asia/tiananmen-square-massacre-china.html
18:19 TR Bot; Hong Kong Remembered June 4 Tiananmen Massacre, Until It Couldnt - The New York Times
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 TR News; In Pictures: Hong Kongs US and EU consulates light candles to mark Tiananmen crackdown anniversary https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/04/in-pictures-hong-kongs-us-and-eu-consulates-light-candles-to-mark-tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary/
18:20 TR Bot; In Pictures: Hong Kongs US and EU consulates light candles to mark Tiananmen crackdown anniversary - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
18:20 TR News; The choppy seas and non-dialogue of USChina relations https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-choppy-seas-and-non-dialogue-of-us-china-relations/
18:20 TR Bot; The choppy seas and non-dialogue of USChina relations | The Strategist
18:20 TR News; Beijing seeks dialogue over confrontation, defense chief says https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/shangri-la-day-3-06042023024225.html
18:20 TR Bot; Beijing seeks dialogue over confrontation, defense chief says Radio Free Asia
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18:22 TR News; "negative outlook for Frances ability to repay mounting debt." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/business/france-fitch-debt-rating.html
18:22 TR Bot; Macron Faces Fresh Test as Outlook for French Finances Dims - The New York Times
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18:34 TR News; (NEW): coreboot versions 4.20 and 4.20.1 have been released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/coreboot_versions_4_20_and_4_20_1_have_been_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/coreboot_versions_4_20_and_4_20_1_have_been_released.gmi
18:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines coreboot versions 4.20 and 4.20.1 have been released
18:35 TR News; Because the economy failed them. Stop blaming the "sentiment", this is the reality... https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/us-economy-fed-jobs-report
18:35 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/us-economy-fed-jobs-report )
18:36 TR News; The new propaganda term after "cooling" is "moderating". Don't say the economy is collapsing, BAD NEWS IS NOT ALLOWED. We now have China-style media...
18:39 TR News; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm nearly ready for release https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/06/msg00000.html
18:39 TR Bot; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm nearly ready for release
18:40 TR News; Media not doing well https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/chuck-todd-leave-meet-the-press
18:40 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/04/chuck-todd-leave-meet-the-press )
18:40 TR News; Fighting Disinformation as Einstein on Twitter https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/04/opinion/einstein-disinformation.html
18:40 TR Bot; Opinion | Fighting Disinformation as Einstein on Twitter - The New York Times
18:42 TR News; (NEW): A new low for the systemd gang and what it may mean (libblockdev udisks2 udiskie) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/A_new_low_for_the_systemd_gang_and_what_it_may_mean_libblockdev.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/A_new_low_for_the_systemd_gang_and_what_it_may_mean_libblockdev.gmi
18:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines A new low for the systemd gang and what it may mean (libblockdev udisks2 udiskie)
18:45 TR News; Gulag Summer of Labour https://medium.com/@gautamy672/gsoc-2023-week-2-report-add-remote-desktop-page-into-the-system-panel-ef29f9100687
18:45 TR Bot; 2023 [Week 2 Report]: Add Remote Desktop page into the system panel | by Gotam Gorabh | Jun, 2023 | Medium
18:45 psydruid; is gulagboy unemployed yet so he finally has some time to visit the grand canyon?
18:47 TR News;
18:47 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL: pg_statement_rollback v1.4 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/PostgreSQL_pg_statement_rollback_v1_4_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/PostgreSQL_pg_statement_rollback_v1_4_released.gmi
18:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL: pg_statement_rollback v1.4 released
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; no
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; grand canyton has "no littering" policy
18:50 TR News; "social justice beer" https://kentwired.com/97997/latest-updates/the-battleground-culture-community-social-justice-beer/
↺ https://kentwired.com/97997/latest-updates/the-battleground-culture-community-social-justice-beer/
18:50 TR Bot; The Battleground: Culture, community, social justice beer Kent Wired
18:51 TR News; Corporations, stay out. Stop hijacking populist causes, or taking over their words, names, orgs. The larger population sees exactly what's going on and what you do...
18:51 TR News; Another sellout. Sportwashing criminals. https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20230604-striker-karim-benzema-to-leave-real-madrid-amid-saudi-rumours
18:51 TR Bot; French striker Karim Benzema to leave Real Madrid amid rumours of Saudi deal
18:51 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: ^
18:51 schestowitz[TR]; KSA ain't so bad
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; they pay me half a billion to say this
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; "influencers"
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; they also bought twitter
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; with the slave owner
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; buying 3 football stars is a lot cheaper
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; than buying TWTR
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; I'm sure they all go there for the VERY high quality football, the league
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; best in the world
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; with famous Saudi strikes like... oh wait
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; they never even qualify for anything
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; it's also why i stopped watching football
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; i only keep track of scores
18:55 TR News; To care, to express our sorrow: Taiwan hosts Tiananmen crackdown remembrance vigil https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/05/to-care-to-express-our-sorrow-taiwan-hosts-tiananmen-crackdown-remembrance-vigil/
18:55 TR Bot; 'To care, to express our sorrow': Taiwan hosts Tiananmen crackdown remembrance vigil - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
18:56 TR News; Israel lobby blackmailing universities into silencing pro-Palestine voices https://nypost.com/2023/06/04/jewish-groups-ask-irs-to-probe-cuny-laws-tax-exempt-status-after-hate-speech/
18:56 TR Bot; Jewish groups ask IRS to probe CUNY Law's tax-exempt status after 'hate speech'
18:57 TR News; Western censorship can be almost as bad as Putin's, but it comes in more subtle forms, such as shadowbans, financial sanctions, online brigading etc.
18:59 TR News; Putin comes over to your desk and slaps you. 6-EYES starts writing E-mails to your boss about you. Till you get sacked. Different approaches.
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18:59 TR News; Do Not Assume Pensions Are Safe, Especially When Managed by Mr. EPOTIF Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/epotif-office/
18:59 TR Bot; Do Not Assume Pensions Are Safe, Especially When Managed by Mr. EPOTIF Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos | Techrights
19:00 TR News; Journalism Cannot and Quite Likely Wont Survive on the World Wide Web http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/threat-to-news/
19:00 TR Bot; Journalism Cannot and Quite Likely Wont Survive on the World Wide Web | Techrights
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19:00 TR News; The West has vastly superior freedom of express. You have the right to express views that get you fired.
19:01 TR News; TruthOut has DIED. No new articles since February. They used to do about 10 articles per day.
19:02 TR News; In the West we have so much free speech and freedom of express(ion) that we're free to talk about how much we value freedom of expression. Just don't express the "wrong" views.
19:03 TR News; "If its not clear by my posts, I have not done a single technical thing after work hours as of late. I get done working, do soccer stuff for the kids if the day requires it, and then I read a book." https://zach.oglesby.co/2023/06/04/if-its-not.html
19:03 TR Bot; // Zach Oglesby
19:03 TR News; Does fedora has ANY volunteers left? ICBM has besieged the project for years and gradually all the volunteers stepped aside.
19:04 TR News; ICBM: NO, WE DID NOT INVADE POLAND. But we created a subsidiary there for the death camps, called after Watson! Dodging taxes, sanctions, probes. http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/
19:04 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
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19:09 TR News; unifont @ Savannah: Unifont 15.0.06 Releaesd http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/04/Savannah_Unifont_15_0_05_Released.shtml
19:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Unifont 15.0.05 Released (UPDATED)
19:09 psydruid; Fedora only has slaves
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19:11 psydruid; Saudi teams and players have actually improved and are some of the most decorated teams in Asia
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; bcotton was not alone being fired
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; but he spoke out about it
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; how many OTHER fedora key people got sacked?
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; we may never know
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; gag orders
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; like opensource.com staff
19:12 psydruid; I'm glad that Fedora will soon be gone
19:12 psydruid; I haven't used the junk in 20 years
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; i used it at work 2010-11
19:14 TR News; ASUS: Microsoft's rogue ally https://www.xda-developers.com/steam-deck-isnt-going-anywhere-asus-rog-ally/
19:14 TR Bot; The Steam Deck isn't going anywhere because of the ROG Ally
19:14 TR News; UEFI utter garbage. Monopolyware https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230601182543.19036-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/
19:14 TR Bot; [PATCHv13 0/9] mm, x86/cc, efi: Implement support for unaccepted memory - Kirill A. Shutemov
19:18 TR News; Mission Community Hospital attackers exploited vulnerabilites in Paragon and Cisco https://www.databreaches.net/mission-community-hospital-attackers-exploited-vulnerabilites-in-paragon-and-cisco/
19:18 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/mission-community-hospital-attackers-exploited-vulnerabilites-in-paragon-and-cisco/ )
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:21 TR News; Anticipating Stockholm Marathon, Kitchen stuff, Recording of TKey talk, Media computer, TKey Hackathon, Lund Linux Conference. gemini://gem.hack.org/mc/log/2023-06-05.gmi
19:22 TR News; Aggregators Tilt East gemini://circadian.gemlog.org/2023-06-05-aggregators-tilt-east.gmi
19:22 TR News; "Stack Overflow's volunteer mod team is on strike from moderation activity as a result of Stack Overflow's failure to allow robust moderation of machine-generated submissions." gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/23-06-05/
19:24 TR News; The IBM Effect: Red Hat and Fedora ditching LibreOffice https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-ibm-effect-red-hat-and-fedora
19:24 TR Bot; The IBM Effect: Red Hat and Fedora ditching LibreOffice
19:28 TR News; "There is a range of sensors that allow Arduino to collect data from its environment and interact with the physical world in various ways." https://linuxhint.com/types-of-sensors-arduino/
19:28 TR Bot; How Many Different Types of Sensors Are There for Arduino?
19:28 TR News; "Arduino board core is essential for programming any microcontroller board. We can add any board core using the additional board manager in IDE." https://linuxhint.com/arduino-core-for-esp8266-wifi-chip/
19:28 TR Bot; Arduino Core for ESP8266 WiFi Chip
19:28 TR News; Retro addons: Big box o SCSI part 2 https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2023/06/04/retro-addons-big-box-o-scsi-part-2/
19:28 TR Bot; Retro addons: Big box o SCSI part2 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
19:30 TR News; Week 1 report or porting Gentoo packages to modern C https://blogs.gentoo.org/gsoc/2023/06/04/week-1-modern-c-porting/
19:30 TR Bot; Week 1 report or porting Gentoo packages to modern C | Gentoo Google Summer of Code
19:31 TR News; Raspberry Pi Camera Uses Sound to Create Photos with AI https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-blind-camera-uses-sound
19:31 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Camera Uses Sound to Create Photos with AI | Tom's Hardware
19:33 TR News; Red Hat says it will drop LibreOffice from RHEL and Fedora https://itwire.com/open-source/red-hat-says-it-will-drop-libreoffice-from-rhel-and-fedora.html
19:33 TR Bot; - Red Hat says it will drop LibreOffice from RHEL and Fedora
19:34 TR News; 12 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Linux Calculators https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-terminal-based-linux-calculators/
19:34 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Linux Calculators - LinuxLinks
19:34 TR News; Alternatives to popular CLI tools: bc https://www.linuxlinks.com/alternatives-popular-cli-tools-bc/
19:34 TR Bot; to popular CLI tools: bc - LinuxLinks
19:35 TR News; StatCounter: GNU/Linux (Including ChromeOS) Grows to 8% Market Share Worldwide http://techrights.org/2023/06/04/statcounter-gnulinux-including-chromeos-grows-to-8-market-share-worldwide/
19:35 TR Bot; StatCounter: GNU/Linux (Including ChromeOS) Grows to 8% Market Share Worldwide | Techrights
19:37 TR News; How To Install TYPO3 on Rocky Linux 9 https://idroot.us/install-typo3-rocky-linux-9/
19:37 TR Bot; How To Install TYPO3 on Rocky Linux 9 - idroot
19:37 TR News; How To Install Duf on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-duf-ubuntu-22-04/
19:37 TR Bot; How To Install Duf on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
19:40 TR News; Maximizing Efficiency: An Introduction to Docker Performance https://linuxconcept.com/maximizing-efficiency-an-introduction-to-docker-performance/
19:40 TR Bot; Maximizing Docker Performance: A Guide to Container Efficiency
19:40 TR News; Measuring Success: Benchmarking CPU Performance in Docker https://linuxconcept.com/measuring-success-benchmarking-cpu-performance-in-docker/
19:40 TR Bot; CPU Benchmarking in Docker: A Comprehensive Guide
19:40 TR News; Storage Speed: Benchmarking Disk Performance with Docker https://linuxconcept.com/storage-speed-benchmarking-disk-performance-with-docker/
19:40 TR Bot; Lightning-Fast Disk Performance: Docker-based Benchmarking
19:40 TR News; The Old Computer Challenge V3 https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-04-old-computer-challenge-v3.html
19:40 TR Bot; Solene'% : The Old Computer Challenge V3
19:41 TR News; Network Efficiency: Docker Network Performance Benchmarking https://linuxconcept.com/network-efficiency-docker-network-performance-benchmarking/
19:41 TR Bot; Boosting Docker's Network Efficiency: Performance Benchmarking
19:41 TR News; Resource Watch: Tracking Container Usage with Docker Stats https://linuxconcept.com/resource-watch-tracking-container-usage-with-docker-stats/
19:41 TR Bot; Optimizing Resource Management with Docker Stats
19:41 TR News; Keeping Tabs: Setting up Performance Monitoring for Docker Environments https://linuxconcept.com/keeping-tabs-setting-up-performance-monitoring-for-docker-environments/
19:41 TR News; Harmonizing Docker: An Introduction to Orchestration and Hosting Platforms https://linuxconcept.com/harmonizing-docker-an-introduction-to-orchestration-and-hosting-platforms/
19:41 TR Bot; Performance Monitoring for Docker Environments: Taking Control
19:41 TR Bot; Docker Orchestration & Hosting Platforms: A Comprehensive Guide
19:42 TR News; Dungeon Drafters: Dungeons and Deck Building https://boilingsteam.com/dungeon-drafters-dungeons-and-deck-building/
19:42 TR Bot; Dungeon Drafters: Dungeons and Deck Building - Boiling Steam
19:43 TR News; Moo! There is a Cow in My Linux Terminal https://itsfoss.com/cowsay/
19:43 TR Bot; Moo! There is a Cow in My Linux Terminal
19:44 TR News; LibreOffice Conf Asia x UbuCon Asia 2023 Surakarta https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/06/04/libreoffice-conf-asia-x-ubucon-asia-2023-surakarta/
19:44 TR Bot; LibreOffice Conf Asia x UbuCon Asia 2023 - Surakarta - The Document Foundation Blog
19:44 TR News; (NEW): Debian 12 Out in Several Days From Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Debian_12_Out_in_Several_Days_From_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Debian_12_Out_in_Several_Days_From_Now.gmi
19:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian 12 Out in Several Days From Now
19:45 TR News; How To Install Rust on Fedora https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-rust-on-fedora/
19:45 TR Bot; How To Install Rust on Fedora - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
19:45 TR News; How to Install Nextcloud with Docker: A Step-by-Step Guide https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-nextcloud-with-docker-compose/
19:45 TR Bot; How to Install Nextcloud with Docker: A Step-by-Step Guide
19:47 TR News; Updated this week https://www.debugpoint.com/best-linux-distributions-2022/
19:47 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/best-linux-distributions-2022/ )
19:47 TR News; MakuluLinux Max Beta 1 News ! http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2023/06/05/makululinux-max-beta-1-news/
19:47 TR Bot; Max Beta 1 News ! MakuluLinux
19:48 TR News; Free DJ Software Mixxx 2.4 Beta Released with Save Loops & Native Apple Silicon support https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/06/free-dj-software-mixxx-2-4-beta-released-with-save-loops-native-apple-silicon-support/
19:48 TR Bot; Free DJ Software Mixxx 2.4 Beta Released with Save Loops & Native Apple Silicon support | UbuntuHandbook
19:49 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Software/Applications: Mixxx 2.4 Beta, 12 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Linux Calculators, and Command Line Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Software_Applications_Mixxx_2_4_Beta_12_Best_Free_and_Open_Sour.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Software_Applications_Mixxx_2_4_Beta_12_Best_Free_and_Open_Sour.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software/Applications: Mixxx 2.4 Beta, 12 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based Linux Calculators, and Command Line Tools
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Steam Deck, Steam Games, and Dungeon Drafters http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Steam_Deck_Steam_Games_and_Dungeon_Drafters.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Steam_Deck_Steam_Games_and_Dungeon_Drafters.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Steam Deck, Steam Games, and Dungeon Drafters
20:02 TR News; FDA is rubberstamping Pfizer again... what good is an FDA like this? Months of testing is a joke. They even approve for humans stuff tested only on mice! https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/04/this-week-in-the-new-normal-64/
20:02 TR Bot; This Week in the New Normal #64 OffGuardian
20:03 TR News; Are clinical trials being deprecated? At what cost? Those existed _for a reason_. The public demanded these. Should we also make seatbelts voluntary?
20:04 TR News; A read more link in GoHugo https://rubenerd.com/a-read-more-link-in-gohugo/
20:04 TR Bot; A read more link in GoHugo
20:06 TR News; atechtown posting Microsoft/Windows garbage this year. But it barely post anything. Once a GNU/Linux site, it has lost its direction entirely.....
20:09 TR News; "I put more into my e-mails and online exchanges (usually IRC, and also M.P) these days when I am not fish-frying my emotions to grease and grime via logging every day. No need for me to desensitize my writing chops or my emotional form(s) of expression. Straight forward exchanges and sincere comraderie. There's where it's at! :) gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1432"
20:09 TR News; "I am tired of WordPress blog which I used on and off for 7 years or so. Never liked the interface. But some good photography blogs kept me there. I am tired of my Tumblr (it is not blogging) that I have been using on and of for 7 years or so. What kept me there ? So easy to share my photos and some other photographers . It is a dump." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1433
20:10 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1944528
20:10 TR Bot; Twitter US ad sales plunged 59%, and internal forecasts are grim, NYT reports | Ars Technica
20:12 TR News; Declaratively manage your Qubes OS gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/reproducible-config-mgmt-qubes-os.gmi
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: phebus insists Twitter is doing OK
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; oops
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; phanes
20:13 schestowitz[TR]; he keeps changing names
20:16 TR News; Scores detained in Hong Kong on Tiananmen massacre anniversary https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230604-scores-detained-in-hong-kong-on-tiananmen-massacre-anniversary
20:16 TR Bot; Scores detained in Hong Kong on Tiananmen massacre anniversary
20:16 AdmFubar; he's afraid of his own identity?
20:16 AdmFubar; https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/06/05/employee-productivity-surveillance-technology/
20:16 TR Bot; Surveilling your employees? You could be putting your company at risk of attack - Help Net Security
20:17 TR News; Reporters Without Borders: Macau national security law threatens residents and journalists https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/reporters-without-borders-macau-national-security-laws-threaten-residents-and-journalists/
20:17 TR Bot; Reporters Without Borders: Macau national security law threatens residents and journalists - JURIST - News
20:17 bagira; schestowitz[TR], AdmFubar eh? Is there anybody who doubts that I am the real Chris MF Punches
20:17 TR News; Anything can be a message queue if you use it wrongly enough https://xeiaso.net/blog/anything-message-queue
20:17 TR Bot; Anything can be a message queue if you use it wrongly enough - Xe Iaso
20:17 bagira; twitter doin fine
20:19 TR News; China tightens access to Tiananmen Square on anniversary of 1989 pro-democracy protests https://federalnewsnetwork.com/world-news/2023/06/china-tightens-access-to-tiananmen-square-on-anniversary-of-1989-pro-democracy-protests/
20:19 TR Bot; China tightens access to Tiananmen Square, 32 detained in Hong Kong on anniversary of 1989 protests | Federal News Network
20:19 mjg59_; 59% drop in advertising revenue YoY
20:19 mjg59_; "fine"
20:19 bagira; yep just fine
20:19 TR News; 'Royal' family versus press https://federalnewsnetwork.com/entertainment-news/2023/06/what-to-know-as-prince-harry-prepares-to-take-on-a-british-tabloid-publisher-in-court/
20:19 TR Bot; What to know as Prince Harry prepares for court fight with British tabloid publisher | Federal News Network
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:21 TR News; Microsoft banned https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/iheartmedia-chatgpt-use-apple-spotify-verizon/
20:21 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/iheartmedia-chatgpt-use-apple-spotify-verizon/ )
20:22 psydruid; Twitter is fulfilling its mission at last
20:22 TR News; Metaverse BS + Apple hype + 'i'... will that be enough? No, People don't have the money to waste. https://federalnewsnetwork.com/technology-news/2023/06/apple-is-expected-to-unveil-sleek-headset-aimed-at-thrusting-the-masses-into-alternate-realities/
20:22 TR Bot; Apple unveils sleek Vision Pro goggles. Will it be what VR has been looking for? | Federal News Network
20:23 TR News; NU World Order 515 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_515_ogg.ogg
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: it self-destructs
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; a lot faster than I imagined
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; I left 16 months ago
20:23 schestowitz[TR]; completely
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; semi-left 3 years ago
20:24 psydruid; that's its mission
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; but
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; many people and orgs will suffer
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; why?
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; because they oputsourcedd their aufdiences
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; next: youtube
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; wait till people realise their "subscxribers" are not theirs
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; but Gulag's
20:24 schestowitz[TR]; Spamnil will need to pay even more for clickfraud
20:24 psydruid; I have no stake in these platforms
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; he usually gets 10 viewers per video
20:25 psydruid; Never invested anything in them at all
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; then the clickfraud comes
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; 1000 views, zero likes, zero comments
20:25 schestowitz[TR]; the bots don't "like"
20:26 schestowitz[TR]; turns out people opt OUT of watching SPAM
20:26 TR News; Trunk Monkey, also shellCMS_bulma https://bkhome.org/news/202306/trunk-monkey-also-shellcmsbulma.html
20:26 TR Bot; Trunk Monkey, also shellCMS_bulma
20:27 TR News; Thorsten Alteholz: My Debian Activities in May 2023 http://blog.alteholz.eu/2023/06/my-debian-activities-in-may-2023/
20:27 TR Bot; Debian Activities in May 2023 blog.alteholz.eu
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; odysee will just go offline
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; next lbry.com
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; and then people's followers will be meaningless
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; odysee might even collapse this yeat
20:27 schestowitz[TR]; like vimeo
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; started charging lots of money
20:28 psydruid; it could only have worked in a p2p way
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; for what used to be temporarily 'free'
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: peertube
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; but yopu need many peers
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; same for ipfs
20:28 psydruid; which is why I'm glad that fibre internet is finally becoming commonplace
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; if you gave one peer for the content, you save nothing
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's just slow
20:28 psydruid; I have 1gbps up/down here
20:28 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: if people self-host
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; or adopt p2p
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; they will come up with new laws
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; saying fast connections are a boon to pedos or something
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; so we must restrict upstream
20:29 psydruid; then it has become a political problem instead of a technological problem
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
20:29 schestowitz[TR]; wwatch the tiktok bans
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; why only tiktok?
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/saying-no-to-fentanylware/
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; 3
20:30 TR Bot; Why Techrights Condones Fentanylware (TikTok) Ban and Suggests Extending Bans to Supposedly Good Fentanyl | Techrights
20:30 psydruid; my mom has tiktok on her phone and watches stuff on it sometimes
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; lol
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; good luck
20:30 schestowitz[TR]; don't plug forks in the socket!
20:31 psydruid; so I told her she's addicted to tiktok now
20:31 schestowitz[TR]; daemonfc has family issues due to "smart" phone addiction
20:31 psydruid; also she always has some games that get installed "somehow" on every new phone of hers
20:32 psydruid; so I tell her she is addicted to games too
20:32 techuser; What family issues exactly?
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; mandy
20:33 psydruid; these people don't get it and will probably never get it
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; getting upset
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; spending all day playing games
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; and buying "virtual" shit
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; i saw the same
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; in rianne's family
20:33 bagira; just make more money and it wont matter
20:33 techuser; Despite seeing the name frequently, I don't remember who Mandy is, related to DaemonFC.
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; bagira is a billionaire
20:33 bagira; i am not a billionaire
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; multi-billioanire
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; winning
20:34 psydruid; bagirionaire
20:34 *bagira is now known as bagirionaire
20:35 bagirionaire; bagirions and bagirions, and bagirions and bagirions and bagirions
20:36 *GGGGgggg (~GGGGgggg@sbvacsvssxaq4.irc) has joined #techrights
20:38 schestowitz[TR]; necessities of life
20:38 bagirionaire; there are few excuses for even a moderately intelligent person to be poor in today's age
20:40 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.gmi
20:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More
20:40 TR News; (NEW): Top 10 Best Linux Distributions for Everyone in 2023, MakuluLinux Max Beta, and Flatpak Obsession http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distributions_for_Everyone_in_2023_MakuluLinu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distributions_for_Everyone_in_2023_MakuluLinu.gmi
20:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Top 10 Best Linux Distributions for Everyone in 2023, MakuluLinux Max Beta, and Flatpak Obsession
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; bagirionaire: in which country?
20:41 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.gmi
20:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers
20:41 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
20:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
20:52 bagirionaire; schestowitz[TR], there's really only one
20:53 bagirionaire; The United Empire of America
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; waning
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; killing its own
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; like USSR in the 80s/90s
20:53 bagirionaire; big talk for someone living in one of our colonies
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; ?
20:58 schestowitz[TR]; let's compare...
20:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-08/top-1-earners-hold-more-wealth-than-the-u-s-middle-class
20:58 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; 2021
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; Top 1%s wealth jumped to a record 27% of the total: Fed data
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/01/23/the-top-1-controls-a-third-of-the-wealth-and-the-poor-are-getting-poorer-how-russia-became-one-of-the-most-unequal-places-on-earth
20:59 TR Bot; The top 1% controls a third of the wealth, and the poor are getting poorer. How Russia became one of the most unequal places on Earth. Meduza
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; 2019
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; USSR, USA..
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; .same shit
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; similar vocation
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; (no, I'm not saying UK is doing well either)
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
21:02 TR News; Gemini Links 05/06/2023: New Ship in Cosmic Voyage, Stack Overflow Moderator Strike | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/05/stack-overflow-moderator-strike/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/05/stack-overflow-moderator-strike/
21:02 TR Bot; Gemini Links 05/06/2023: New Ship in Cosmic Voyage, Stack Overflow Moderator Strike | Techrights
21:05 TR News; Links 05/06/2023: Debian 12 Almost Ready, Hong Kong Cannot Remember Tiananmen Massacre | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/05/debian-12-almost-ready/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/05/debian-12-almost-ready/
21:06 TR Bot; Links 05/06/2023: Debian 12 Almost Ready, Hong Kong Cannot Remember Tiananmen Massacre | Techrights
21:13 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/amazon-ring-doorbell-spying-ftc
21:13 TR Bot; Amazons Ring doorbell was used to spy on customers, FTC says in privacy case | Amazon | The Guardian
21:14 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/05/qbot_malware_adaptations/
21:14 TR Bot; Qbot malware adapts to live another day and another The Register
21:15 AdmFubar; https://packetstormsecurity.com/news/view/34684/Python-Byte-Code-Used-To-Avoid-Detection-And-Load-Malware.html
21:15 TR Bot; Python byte code used to avoid detection and load malware | SC Media
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theguardian.com | Amazons Ring doorbell was used to spy on customers, FTC says in privacy case | Amazon | The Guardian
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; but this is what it does
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; they make it sound like a surprose
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; "omg turns out gambling is addictive"
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: if I come back from sleep in 4 hours will that be before the HV maintenance?
21:20 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
21:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
21:21 TR News; The Gemini capsule is now syndicated in "planets" are Geminispace. That greatly broadens its reach to highly technical people.
21:23 bagirionaire; > The top 1% controls a third of the wealth, and the poor are getting poorer. How Russia became one of the most unequal places on Earth. Meduza || sounds like a poor person problem
21:24 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
21:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
21:24 bagirionaire; the top 1% don't sit around whining about being poor while continuing to accept it
21:24 bagirionaire; that's really the primary difference
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; what nonsense
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; poverty is not a choice
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; anyway
21:25 bagirionaire; in most cases in a first world nation it is
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; back later
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; sleep time
21:25 bagirionaire; less a choice but more of a mindset and value system
21:25 bagirionaire; the most effective cages are cages of the mind and spirit
21:26 bagirionaire; and are self imposed
21:26 TR News; "A few days ago I made some updates to my OpenTTD mod. This category of mods is called a NewGRF in OpenTTD parlance. No big things, but enough to warrant a new release." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2023-06-05-tea-tea-deluxe-1-2-7-and-tea-land.gmi
21:27 AdmFubar; https://news.slashdot.org/story/23/06/04/1932246/amazons-aws-is-retiring-its-open-source-and-on-github-documentation
21:28 TR Bot; Amazon's AWS is 'Retiring' Its Open-Source-and-on-GitHub Documentation - Slashdot
21:28 bagirionaire; wealth creates wealth, too
21:28 bagirionaire; go to some desert hut village where people have been poor for 10 generations
21:28 bagirionaire; make one of them wealthy
21:28 bagirionaire; in a year he's building a well and irrigation from the river to enhance his situation
21:28 bagirionaire; the town benefits
21:29 bagirionaire; he decides to build a school
21:29 bagirionaire; the newly well fed kids get educated and grow up
21:29 bagirionaire; they build new things
21:29 bagirionaire; he spends money throughout the town all along the way
21:29 bagirionaire; it creates a surge in the local transactional economy
21:30 bagirionaire; in 30 years you have a prosperous rural city
21:30 bagirionaire; (unless you add a defect to his character)
21:31 bagirionaire; if you want to make a poor place wealthy, build wells, irrigation, and schools
21:32 bagirionaire; it's a mindset not a circumstance
21:34 bagirionaire; if i had decided to be an uber driver i'd have been poor and would be working far more hours
21:34 bagirionaire; that's before introducing the idea that in order for any society to function some people must be poor and some people must not be
21:35 bagirionaire; this wealth disparity is a consequence of a functional, structured society as much a consequence of mindset
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21:42 AdmFubar; https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/06/04/0250218/system76s-open-firmware-re-disables-intels-management-engine
21:42 TR Bot; System76's Open Firmware 'Re-Disables' Intel's Management Engine - Slashdot
21:51 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-outlook-thousands-users-problems-microsoft.html
21:51 TR Bot; Is Outlook down? Thousands of users report problems with Microsoft's email platform
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21:55 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-standard-paves-collapse-resistant.html
21:55 TR Bot; New building standard paves the way for collapse-resistant structures
22:01 AdmFubar; WTF? https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-carbon-dioxide-tool-emissions-digital.html
22:01 TR Bot; Researchers create carbon dioxide measurement tool to calculate emissions caused by stored digital data
22:02 AdmFubar; we will all become "Max Headroom"
22:02 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-ai-clones-user-pose-uncanny.html
22:02 TR Bot; AI clones made from user data pose uncanny risks
22:04 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-photocatalytic-concrete-air-underground-tunnels.html
22:04 TR Bot; Photocatalytic concrete for clean air in underground tunnels
22:07 immibis; Reddit staff are fighting a full on class war against moderators as we speak
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22:08 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-car-thieves-sophisticated-methods-vehicles.html
22:08 TR Bot; Car thieves are using increasingly sophisticated methods, and most new vehicles are vulnerable
22:11 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-ai-fans-beatles-music.html
22:11 TR Bot; Here Comes the AI: Fans rejoice in 'new' Beatles music
22:12 AdmFubar; now micro-dotify https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-spotify-staff-podcasts.html
22:12 TR Bot; Spotify to cut 200 staff working with podcasts
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22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-pi2, Now I have a damaged rear strut.
22:23 DaemonFC; That's perfect.
22:23 DaemonFC; I've got some rear strut assemblies on the way.
22:23 DaemonFC; It's squeaking.
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22:43 AdmFubar; becarefull what you wish for elon... https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91728/elon-musk-reveals-twitter-has-discovered-hidden-layer-of-censorship/index.html
22:43 TR Bot; Elon Musk reveals Twitter has discovered a hidden layer of 'censorship'
22:45 MinceR; it will fit in nice between all the visible layers of censorship
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22:53 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/05/who_me/
22:53 TR Bot; iPods prevented from swamping servers with bovine hack The Register
22:56 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/05/windows_xp_afterlife/
22:56 TR Bot; Windows XP's afterlife shows copyright's copywrongs The Register
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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23:14 XRevan86; schestowitz: USSR's fate is not exactly a good analogy for a fate of any other country.
23:16 XRevan86; The US doesn't have anything like occupied Baltic states. Or the planned economy. Or the party state apparatus.
23:17 XRevan86; If a recession alone could kill a state, we'd see them popping like flies.
23:18 XRevan86; Look at Turkey. Even with big inflation and a badly-managed earthquake Erdogan still maintained his power.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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