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00:04 bnchs; stabler internet
00:04 bnchs; at least i don't get 145 KB/s download speed and then downward slope
00:06 immibis; do people who talk abotu social credit systems realize there's already a social credit system, called money?
00:06 matey; immibis: fair point, but cash and credit work A BIT differently as you may have heard
00:07 matey; and social credit is even a bit weirder than "normal" credit
00:07 matey; i mean with one, you dont have a job, you cant buy a car
00:08 matey; with another, you say the wrong thing on a private phone call, you cant pay the mortgage.
00:08 matey; the concerns arent identical.
00:09 immibis; matey: lots of people get money by saying things. example: tucker carlson. If he says the wrong thing on a private phone call, he can't pay the mortgage.
00:09 matey; im going to give you some time to figure out the difference.
00:10 matey; also, if he says the wrong thing, they dont SUBTRACT from his existing balance
00:10 matey; unless he REALLY says the wrong fucking thing
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00:10 matey; thats different from every word... i mean, you want to conflate, okay
00:10 matey; but so do a lot of people im sure you cant stand, for their attitude towards logic
00:11 matey; this is definitely a quantity becomes a quality distinction
00:13 matey; like a drop of water isnt a flood, its a completely different thing
00:14 matey; even a glass of water could carry away a car-- but probably not in the same way that a flood likely would
00:14 matey; because a glass of water isnt a flood
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00:19 matey; on the other hand, if money really is the same thing, we should probably get rid of it.
00:19 psydruid; https://www.army.mil/article/249241/armys_powerful_open_source_solid_modeling_system_undergoes_modernization
00:19 matey; for the same reasons we shouldnt have a social credit rating
00:19 TR Bot; Armys powerful open source solid modeling system undergoes modernization | Article | The United States Army
00:19 matey; i thought open source was ethical
00:20 psydruid; (because it actually grew out of the army)
00:20 matey; close enough
00:20 psydruid; migrating to Github, though ...
00:21 matey; i mean programming languages grew out of the navy
00:22 matey; this is a blazing oversimplification
00:22 matey; but a fun one
00:25 activelow; unix and C were born in Bell Labs
00:31 matey; <activelow> unix and C were born in Bell Labs <- a bit later though
00:31 matey; 10 to 20 years
00:31 matey; i mean basic goes back to 1963/64
00:32 matey; from dartmouth
00:32 matey; and it came with its own timesharing system (which predates unix)
00:32 matey; granted it wasnt as good as unix
00:32 matey; but one would hope that in the 70s they could make a better timesharing system than the one a few people put together in 1963/64
00:33 chunky; UNIX FUCKED MY MOM
00:33 matey; the dtss was built on a couple of ge systems
00:33 matey; and ge was involved with multics. along with bell labs
00:33 matey; but im not sure how much direct involvement ge had with dtss, possibly none (other than providing equipment)
00:34 matey; <chunky> UNIX FUCKED MY MOM <- with what?
00:34 activelow; Basic programming, i think it is still useful, to learn and start with, particularly if the relation of BASIC language construcsts with ASM/machine language is covered
00:34 chunky; touch, fsck, etc
00:34 matey; fair enough
00:35 MinceR; lol
00:35 activelow; and i appreciate, "programming z80" book didn't require any update in almost 40years
00:35 matey; of course in the 1960s i dont think basic had any connection to those things
00:35 matey; but in the 80s, when you had basic on so many chips in 8-bit machines
00:35 matey; then you had peek and poke, and you could do all kinds of cool shit
00:35 matey; unfortunately the move to 16 bit made this a bit less fun
00:36 matey; and a bit more difficult to learn at an early age
00:36 activelow; z80 was 16bit address space already
00:36 matey; i didnt know that
00:36 matey; but on 8 bit machines, peek and poke were trivial and anyone could use them
00:36 bnchs; chunky: i'm gonna touch, fsck, unzip your mom
00:36 chunky; in that order?
00:36 matey; particularly the c64 and bbc micro made it easy
00:36 bnchs; i'm gonna chown her
00:37 matey; /me cant believe libera chat hasnt banned their own instance of #techrights by now, just for what goes on in this one
00:37 matey; maybe theyre not following their own rules
00:37 activelow; techrights is bridged to libera? didn't know that.
00:37 bnchs; >banning for off-network chat
00:37 bnchs; woah there
00:37 matey; bnchs: its the sjw way!
00:38 matey; activelow: it used to be, i dont think it is anymore (if it is, its difficult to tell)
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00:38 bnchs; no its not
00:39 matey; someone started #techrights there and it was sort of like an effigy of this one for people to shit on (in practice)
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00:39 matey; someone had the less-than-terrible-in-general idea of bridging them
00:39 matey; and eventually it became clear that no good would ever come of that
00:40 matey; and i dont know when it was officially done away with, but here we are
00:40 activelow; seems freenode/leenode isn't bridged
00:40 bnchs; lol
00:41 bnchs; it probably got k-lined by now
00:41 bnchs; by whatever daemonfc has been spouting out
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00:43 matey; dfc is good for one thing, if sjws ever try to take over here he would probably cause them to burst into flames
00:43 bnchs; yeah
00:44 matey; many years ago, like maybe 15ish years ago, i was pretty much an sjw
00:44 matey; or on that path at least
00:44 matey; i was like, these projects are too fucking racist. other than that, theyre great
00:44 matey; but you cant really do anything about that, except what sjws do
00:45 matey; even then i thought "openrespect" was a bunch of crap-- corporate bullshit that thinks you can be "racist against canonical" or something
00:45 matey; i ended up swinging libertarian as i moved from open source to free software though
00:46 matey; plus i saw what happened when more than a couple of people tried to thought police software projects
00:46 bnchs; i hope you didn't fall for the double standard "racism" sjws have
00:46 matey; i mean my concept of justice was always for everyone with no exceptions
00:47 matey; so reverse racism was just racism.
00:47 matey; and i wasnt (to my knowledge) joining a group of idiots when i was an sjw. i was sort of ahead of most of them
00:48 matey; when that shit started actually catching on, i didnt think it was helping.
00:48 matey; nor can i take credit (thankfully) for it catching on.
00:48 matey; it was a bad idea then, and a worse idea now
00:49 matey; of course people shouldnt be racist, obviously
00:49 matey; but people are, a bit-- and its not always because youre a shitty person
00:49 matey; it really depends on too many things to make a zero tolerance policy for it
00:49 matey; and i dont recall ever being in favour of zero tolerance policies
00:50 matey; which seem to the favourite solution of sjws for everything
00:50 matey; cleverly disguised as a system of warnings and exceptions, until someone gets on the naughty list for-- whatever
00:50 matey; it lends itself to zero tolerance policies and turns into those very quickly.
00:51 matey; my favourite part is the history rewriting after the fact
00:51 matey; linus was never cancelled. rms was never cancelled (people on both sides say this!)
00:51 matey; i seem to recall he was.
00:51 bnchs; linus was never cancelled
00:51 matey; also there are four lights.
00:51 bnchs; he just submitted to the corporations
00:52 matey; <bnchs> he just submitted to the corporations <- there was a bit more to it than that
00:52 matey; also he submitted to corporations before he was cancelled
00:52 matey; just not enough for someones taste
00:55 psydruid; Linus doesn't measure up to Greg when it comes to selling out
00:55 psydruid; Greg is a far better salesman
00:55 matey; Linus doesn't measure up to Greg when it comes to selling out <- this is completely true
00:56 matey; credit where credit is due, linus is a shill and imo a douchebag
00:56 matey; but hes not grekh
00:56 matey; gregkh
00:56 matey; greg is all about being a team player
00:57 matey; the team being google, apple, microsoft, amazon, facebook and ibm-- and their serfs
00:57 matey; with linus there was pushback at least (for most of his career)
00:57 matey; but now hes mostly a good boy-- at least whenever it counts
00:58 matey; so greg can pick up where he left off, in terms of selling out
00:58 matey; greg, NOT tso
00:58 matey; tso isnt well behaved enough
00:58 matey; and linus probably wont say anything
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00:59 activelow; in the beginning, lt had given a talk, presenting his kernel... keep it simple he said, often
00:59 matey; still there are utter fantasies about linus kicking the door in, grabbing his trademark and saying "fuck you guys, laters!"
00:59 activelow; have a look, at kernel, compiler, how simple those are
00:59 matey; linus isnt a renegade, he just plays one on the internet
01:00 matey; borrowing the mantle of someone who actually stood up to giants
01:00 matey; but linus is still less of a shill than gregkh
01:00 matey; or if greg isnt a shill... hes at least a puppet
01:01 matey; like the ones the first world installs in leadership positions in other countries
01:01 matey; while calling it "democracy"
01:01 matey; usually that sort of thing is called empire, but kingoffrance has their number
01:02 matey; linux is a corporate empire
01:02 matey; counterrevolution os
01:02 matey; roy says its a dumping ground for code no one wants
01:03 matey; here, have some low-grade 1s and 0s
01:03 matey; they fell off a truck, but some are still good
01:03 psydruid; it's good that such a dumping ground exists
01:04 matey; its bad that the fsf wants everyone to copy it
01:04 psydruid; if we want to run it is another matter
01:04 matey; there isnt even a gnu project anymore
01:04 matey; its the gnu/linux project now
01:04 psydruid; I prefer to have just one such dumping ground, so I know what to avoid
01:04 matey; the lignux project
01:05 psydruid; if everything becomes a dumping ground, we are truly lost
01:05 matey; indeed
01:05 bnchs; liGNUx?
01:05 matey; but if you look at the world itself-- thats what these companies think
01:05 bnchs; or lunix
01:05 bnchs; lgnuix?
01:05 matey; the whole world (minus their backyards) are a dumping ground
01:05 matey; theres a story behing lignux
01:06 matey; rms was really adamant about not having linux co-opt the gnu project entirely (the fact that it has is another way to tell hes not in charge anymore)
01:06 matey; so he settled on gnu/linux but he proposed a number of compromises
01:06 matey; including "lignux"
01:07 matey; i happen to think gnu/linux sounds a lot less horrible, but lignux is easier to type
01:07 psydruid; it's more like linux/g emulating wsl/g now
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01:08 matey; pairing gnu with the openbsd kernel would actually help give it its identity back
01:08 matey; compared to its forced marriage with open source.
01:08 matey; they never even loved each other
01:08 bnchs; openbsd kernel?
01:08 bnchs; hahahaha
01:08 bnchs; it would like pissing off openbsd community
01:08 bnchs; relicensing their kernel under GPL
01:09 matey; yes, de raadt would probably release the "murder hornets"
01:09 activelow; *BSD always used GNU compiler
01:09 bnchs; and then
01:09 matey; but all is fair in love and war
01:09 bnchs; well i don't know
01:09 bnchs; whatever ^C
01:09 matey; *BSD always used GNU compiler <- couldnt have, bsd predates gcc
01:09 matey; bsd: 70s
01:09 matey; gnu: 80s
01:10 matey; linux: 90s
01:10 activelow; *BSD always used GNU compiler since it existed
01:10 matey; fair enough
01:10 activelow; bsd: 90s
01:11 bnchs; yeah
01:11 bnchs; i'm pretty sure the playstation devkit used GNU compiler up to PS3
01:12 bnchs; then they switched to LLVM/clang
01:12 matey; 2.9bsd becomes the first version of bsd that is a full operating system rather than a set of applications and patches <- 1983, same year rms announced the gnu project
01:12 matey; x10r3 (the predecessor of x11) becomes the first freely redistributable x release <- 1986
01:13 psydruid; > but all is fair in love and war
01:13 psydruid; my instant reaction is to think of Tolstoy's war and peace
01:13 matey; 4.4bsd-lite is a freely-distributable version of bsd following the settlement of the at&t lawsuit <- 1994
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01:14 matey; never read tolstoy. i love dostoyevsky, but i only read his shorter stuff
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01:14 matey; i seem to really enjoy english when its translated from russian
01:14 MinceR; peacekeeping and peace
01:14 psydruid; never did so either, but I remember my French teacher telling me about it
01:14 matey; special military operations and peace
01:14 MinceR; +
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01:15 matey; actually wasnt that thing with the ZZZ saying that was is peace?
01:16 bnchs__; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5cEunr8hPE0
01:16 TR Bot; Back to Go, Rust is Slow (in Ways That Matter to the Most People) - Invidious
01:16 matey; war is peace ^
01:16 bnchs__; "People are now writing formal academic papers debunking Rust's lies about safety and the rest. The more I learn about how shitty and dishonest Rust is (and its community) the more motivated I am to look at C and C++ (again) and the more I'm not just ambivalent about Rust, I'm actively advocating against it. Rust is fucking bad for the world. There are still *zero* significant projects in Rust while there are now hundreds in Go including
01:16 bnchs__; Kubernetes, Docker and the entire cloud native ecosystem. Rust is a fail. Die, die, die. Learn it and watch your career die with it."
01:16 bnchs__; you know he's spiting out the truth
01:16 matey; rust isnt a programming language, its a webapi in a programming language costume
01:16 bnchs__; rust was, is, and will always be a memelang
01:16 bnchs__; with no real value
01:17 matey; same with python 3-- its a webapi posing as a language
01:17 bnchs__; you will be glad if the borrow checker doesn't prevent you from writting something useful
01:17 bnchs__; and the unstable specifications making your source code last a week
01:17 matey; python is going to get worse. they swear it wont, thats how you know its already planned
01:18 activelow; what was wrong with python2 to justify the python3 move?
01:18 bnchs__; rust brainwashers like to tell you that memory management is rocket scienece
01:18 bnchs__; no you should use their memelang
01:18 matey; i believe kingoffrance (forgive me if im wrong) says "the language is the specification" is no better than "the law is the spirit of the law"
01:18 bnchs__; struggle with their borrow checker
01:18 activelow; the parallel of python2 and python3 for almost a decade was very annoying
01:18 matey; as someone who wrote a language as a specification, i dont entirely agree
01:18 bnchs__; then you'll end up with a more bloated, slower and less usable program
01:18 matey; but that language has been stable as fuck since about 2016.
01:19 matey; and generally when people say the language is the specification-- they mean its subject to change, not stable
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01:20 activelow; Golang belongs into the same basket of foul apples as Rustlang and C++
01:20 bnchs__; rust is nothing but a memelang
01:20 bnchs__; a toylang
01:20 matey; Golang belongs into the same basket of foul apples as Rustlang and C++ <- problem with golang is its endorsed by one of the original creators of c
01:20 bnchs__; no useful programs have been written for it
01:20 matey; ipfs and some gemini stuff.
01:21 bnchs__; yes
01:21 matey; in golang. other than that i agree.
01:21 bnchs__; and it mostly gets its way by being a mobgang
01:21 bnchs__; harassing people until they rewrite
01:21 matey; like python 3
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01:22 matey; python, as python 2, is nearly my favourite language of all time
01:22 matey; id rather use a different language than use python 3. ive used python 3.
01:22 activelow; "programming z80" didn't require any update in 40years
01:22 matey; https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html
01:22 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom
01:23 matey; id rather have a z80 cluster than a z80
01:23 matey; a z80 cluster would be neat.
01:24 matey; give me a z80 cluster the size of an adult human, and ill learn how to use it for something
01:24 matey; i imagine it would heat the place up a little, but at least they arent pentiums
01:25 matey; any larger and it would be too much trouble to own. any smaller, and what am i going to use it for
01:27 matey; of course im not a hardware person, so im sure there are people here who can talk scale with a better idea what theyre talking about
01:27 matey; i mean i did have a timex sinclair once
01:28 matey; and i learned to code on an 8088
01:29 activelow; i would rather waste my precious time with the altair basic paper tape than with Golang or rust
01:30 matey; the altair basic paper tape <- i mean, thats like the 8-bit version of github
01:30 matey; ive already been there
01:31 activelow; 4KiB, punched holes into paper
01:31 activelow; anyone can decipher this?
01:31 activelow; is it documented?
01:32 matey; <activelow> is it documented? <- you can still buy an altair
01:32 matey; and theres probably an emulator
01:33 matey; of course goland and rust are also based on github
01:33 activelow; i mean, nowadays, there isn't any free and opensource VT100 terminal with PS/2 and VGA remaining, both hardware and software.
01:33 matey; golang
01:34 activelow; with gentoo the golang components are fetched from github
01:34 activelow; the distfile folders are awful
01:34 activelow; i blacklisted to rsync this
01:34 activelow; for the reason alone, how the distfile folders look like, with golang crap inside
01:35 activelow; i'll _never_ accept any single golang dependency with BaphometOS
01:36 matey; This Altair kit is functionally and in most ways physically identical to the original Altair 8800 Computer. http://altairkit.com/
01:36 TR Bot; to AltairKit.com!
01:37 matey; "Restored Altair 8800 Construction Manual, Technical Manual, Operators Manual"
01:37 activelow; i think i'll continue with "programming z80", not because i prefer z80, because the book wasn't altered in 40years
01:37 matey; simh is an altair 8800 emulator, naturally its based on github
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01:39 AdmFubar1; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/comcast-wanted-man-to-pay-19000-even-though-his-neighbor-already-had-service/
01:39 TR Bot; Comcast wanted man to pay $19,000 after falsely advertising service on his street | Ars Technica
01:39 matey; but is that with no bandwidth caps?
01:39 matey; i mean, this is comcast we are talking about
01:40 matey; when he complained they tried to talk him down to 12000 for the next 2 years, to go up to 19000 afterwards
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01:43 AdmFubar1; laughs that matey hasn't read the article
01:45 matey; oh it could be 19000 or 190, what do i care
01:45 matey; comcast is never going to be a good company
01:45 matey; and no, i tend to skip arsetechnica
01:46 matey; its not a real website anymore. they should sell it to whoever owns aol and be done with it
01:46 matey; i dont understand your fascination with it
01:46 matey; as nearly every link you post is from there
01:47 matey; or seems to be
01:50 AdmFubar1; I'd say get your eyes checked
01:51 matey; id say dont be a cunt, but its too late for that
01:51 matey; have fun working for arsetech
01:52 matey; maybe you can go work for lf afterwards
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01:52 MinceR; the show ended early :>
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01:53 matey; spamfilter updated
01:53 MinceR; round 2
01:53 matey; nope
01:53 matey; fuck that guy
01:53 MinceR; :)
01:54 matey; id rather hear about mandys colonoscopy
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02:10 psydruid; and not on arsetech, but straight from the source
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02:17 DaemonFC; Well, iPhones let you send Facetime links to Android users.
02:17 DaemonFC; But when you open them on Android, it says you need Chrome or Microsoft Edge.
02:28 DaemonFC; "Prior to this new law, Colorado didnt have any gestational restrictions on abortions, but it didnt have any guarantees, either. While this act will change that, it doesnt remove all of the restrictions such as the ban on the state funding of abortions. That means a person will be guaranteed the right to choose whether to get an abortion or not, but it doesnt mean it will be covered by their state insurance."
02:28 DaemonFC; That's probably the one thing you can put on a credit card and still be financially better off even if you have to make minimum payments.
02:32 matey; straight from the source <- actually i prefer to hear about mandys arse AT LEAST second-hand
02:32 matey; if not further removed
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02:38 matey; "That means a person will be guaranteed the right to choose whether to get an abortion or not, but it doesnt mean it will be covered by their state insurance." because creating huge amounts of debt for (debatably) necessary medical procedures doesnt increase levels of crime or anything
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02:39 matey; but, i suppose it depends what the terms are
02:39 matey; starting with the motivations, the terms probably suck, but that isnt necessarily so
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02:39 matey; sometimes the stars and planets and hearts and green clovers and purple horseshoes align, and you get a law with reasonable terms
02:40 matey; or a sugary breakfast cereal, but definitely one of the two
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02:41 matey; then again if youre in colorado youre already fucked
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03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 26 GB TotalOut: 5.5 GB
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 IPFS; QmPA9baiheMyYvoirRpVxfonAnbATaW9SCDexu9yzCdwpR
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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04:17 DaemonFC; The state must have left their version of the Hyde Amendment because it had too many "moderate" Democrats to remove it and have the bill pass.
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04:50 DaemonFC; "Previously Firefox for macOS and Linux would download temporary files to a user-specific directory in /tmp, but this behavior was changed to download them to /tmp where they could be affected by other local users. This behavior was reverted to the original, user-specific directory.
04:50 DaemonFC; This bug only affects Firefox for macOS and Linux."
04:50 DaemonFC; Brilliant. Introducing obvious security vulnerabilities.
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05:29 activelow; given gcc-4.7 supports c++98 this will be the demarcation line of what is acceptable outside the c-only base-system of BaphometOS
05:30 activelow; the reasoning is this, i am not willing to dependency track and maintain a himalaya mountain amount of components anyway
05:31 activelow; nonetheless, libreoffice, boost library, codeblocks ide etc. are useful occasionally, simply because office document format is common
05:33 activelow; i'll dig into the archives, and see which is the last libreoffice version, for example, which compiles with gcc-4.7/g++, and keep those packages
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07:14 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, April 04, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:14 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:14 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:14 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:21 schestowitz-TR; [00:37] <matey> /me cant believe libera chat hasnt banned their own instance of #techrights by now, just for what goes on in this one
07:21 schestowitz-TR; fuchs did monitor that channel at one point
07:21 schestowitz-TR; buf not for the reason you might imagine
07:21 schestowitz-TR; I believe he was trying to actually shield is
07:21 schestowitz-TR; *us
07:22 schestowitz-TR; from people looking to abuse
07:22 schestowitz; -glguy/Wallops- Hi libera users. We've got a bit of weekly maintenance to do. The servers lithium and molybdenum will be restarting shortly for software updates.
07:23 schestowitz; last activity there:
07:23 schestowitz; <Digit> hey, uh, i dont suppose the techrights guy/team have assembled a team to take over joindiaspora have they? &
07:29 TR News; "Hello! I'm Amin Bandali, and starting this month I'm taking over the GNU Spotlight from my fellow GNU hacker and free software activist Mike Gerwitz. Mike, thank you so much for all your work over the past four years for curating and preparing the monthly GNU Spotlight" https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/march-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-eleven-new-gnu-releases
07:29 TR Bot; March GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Eleven new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
07:29 TR News; Antitrust Day: Tech monopolies shouldnt be allowed to control app stores Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163362
07:29 TR Bot; Antitrust Day: Tech monopolies shouldn't be allowed to control app stores | Tux Machines
07:34 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 729 for the week of March 27 April 2, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/04/04/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-729/
07:34 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 729
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09:33 TR News; "The title of this post sounds like someone from the 1990s observing VCR distortion" https://rubenerd.com/track-skipping-from-ripped-cds/
09:33 TR Bot; Track skipping from ripped CDs
09:33 TR News; "This past week was truly one for the blooper reel." https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/04/spammers-in-public-cloud-protected-by.html
09:33 TR Bot; That grumpy BSD guy: Spammers in the Public Cloud, Protected by SPF; Intensified Password Groping Still Ongoing; Spamware Hawked to Spamtraps
09:34 TR News; "Fantasian is an Apple Arcade exclusive Final Fantasy style RPG. I liked it." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/Fantasian
09:34 TR Bot; Fantasian
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09:40 TR News; "This isnt the first time weve seen a juxtaposition of high-tech lighting over low-tech visuals" https://www.pcworld.com/article/629145/hellfire-never-looked-so-good-original-doom-gets-ray-tracing-mod.html
09:40 TR Bot; years later, classic Doom just got a stunning ray tracing mod | PCWorld
09:40 TR News; "Its Monday, and Valve has sent its next weekly batch of Steam Deck order emails to people who have reserved one of the coveted handheld gaming PCs" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23010130/valve-steam-deck-shipments-order-emails
09:40 TR Bot; Valve says its ramping up Steam Deck shipments - The Verge
09:46 TR News; Top 6 apps to read and organize comic books on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163363
09:46 TR Bot; Top 6 apps to read and organize comic books on Linux | Tux Machines
09:47 TR News; "A Linux distribution cannot normally provide any kind of long term support for any kind of third party software if such software is no longer supported" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/linux-distribution-long-term-support-might-not-be-what-you-think-it-is.html
09:47 TR Bot; Linux distribution long term support might not be what you think it is
09:47 TR News; Heres What Devs Are Planning for GNOME 43 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163364
09:47 TR Bot; Here's What Devs Are Planning for GNOME 43 | Tux Machines
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09:51 TR News; Now also in the main Gentoo site New Gentoo LiveGUI ISO and artwork / branding contest! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163328#comment-33278
09:51 TR Bot; Gentoo MIPS stages are back! | Tux Machines
09:51 TR News; Maui Shells First Alpha Release Looks Promising Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163365
09:51 TR Bot; Maui Shell's First Alpha Release Looks Promising | Tux Machines
09:56 TR News; "Although it's slightly weird-looking, were fairly sure that the image above is not an April Fool prank" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/servo-2040-powers-motorized-creations
09:56 TR Bot; Pimoroni Announces Servo 2040 Servo Motor Controller | Tom's Hardware
09:57 TR News; "For some time now, we've wanted to have a Printed Circuit Board (PCB) that we could use to demonstrate Drogue Device and Drogue Clown" https://blog.drogue.io/pcb-part-1/
09:57 TR Bot; The making of a PCB: Part 1 Drogue IoT
09:57 TR News; "Throughout these two blog posts, we've seen the steps we took starting from the initial drawing to a potential large scale manufacturing of a fully assembled PCB" https://blog.drogue.io/pcb-part-2/
09:57 TR Bot; The making of a PCB: Part 2 Drogue IoT
09:58 TR News; "The IBM 1401 team at the Computer History Museum accumulates a lot of mystery components from donations and other sources." http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html
09:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: righto.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html
09:58 TR Bot; Reverse-engineering a mysterious Univac computer board
09:58 TR News; "Most ATX power supplies supply more 5V and less 12V than is needed for the Rainbow to power the system." https://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2022/03/dec-rainbow-power-supply-specs.html
09:58 TR Bot; Warner's Random Hacking Blog: DEC Rainbow Power Supply Specs
09:58 TR News; "A Philips Hue lamp is a LED lamp that can be controlled wirelessly." Sounds like a BadIdea(TM) https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/04/03/power-consumption-of-a-philips-hue-lamp-in-off-state/
09:58 TR Bot; Power Consumption Of A Philips Hue lamp In Off State | Didier Stevens
10:00 TR News; Palladium Magazine says nice things about Gemini gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/ https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/
10:00 Alternative link; CloudFlare: palladiummag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/
10:00 TR Bot; Terry Davis Was Right
10:03 TR News; "How much land would be needed to give everyone some living space? And what would the world look like?" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/875
10:03 TR News; 6 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Delivery Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163366
10:03 TR Bot; 6 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Delivery Systems | Tux Machines
10:04 TR News; "March was full steam ahead for Lagrange, and I ended up addressing a bunch of long-standing issues. The original idea of making page layout more flexible didn't really get worked on yet, apart from one new style option. However, many of the UI widgets underwent visual evolution." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_lagrange-1.12.gmi
10:05 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 04, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/irc-log-040422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/irc-log-040422/
10:05 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 04, 2022 | Techrights
10:06 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D551.jpg
10:06 schestowitz; (Cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D193.jpg
10:07 TR News; "I am happy to announce the first release of a project I've been working on for a while, Crabmail." gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-04-04.gmi
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10:19 TR News; Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/
10:19 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights
10:20 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163367
10:20 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:26 TR News; "At the same time, this conglomerate of monopolies is often referred to as the publishing market" http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/04/eu-academic-publishers-are-monopolists/
10:26 TR Bot; bjoern.brembs.blog EU: academic publishers are monopolists
10:27 TR News; "This is the fourth post in my toolchains adventures series." https://www.cambus.net/toolchains-adventures-q1-2022/
10:27 TR Bot; Toolchains adventures - Q1 2022 | Frederic Cambus
10:28 TR News; "It's time to finish up our peephole optimizer, O, that we started in the previous post." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220402.html
10:28 TR Bot; Brian Robert Callahan
10:28 TR News; "As writing software turned into a more and more complex engineering effort, ideas emerged to make writing software easier and more stable" https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1
10:28 Alternative link; CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1
10:28 TR Bot; patterns and the software operator part 1 | Ubuntu
10:28 TR News; "Over the years, the software development and programming community developed a common understanding of design patterns." https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2
10:28 Alternative link; CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2
10:28 TR Bot; software operator design pattern part 2 | Ubuntu
10:29 TR News; "ZigBee is also an open standard, which makes it low cost compared to some other standards." https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/
10:29 Alternative link; CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/
10:29 TR Bot; Smart Home Protocols: ZigBee Explained!
10:29 TR News; "Welcome to the [Spy] Home Protocols Series, where we are going to be deep diving on protocols that our [Spy] home devices use to communicate" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/
10:29 Alternative link; CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/
10:29 TR Bot; Smart Home Protocols: WiFi Explained!
10:31 TR News; "This generation missed the Youve Got Mail era, that brief, sunny time when email was still electronic mail" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html
10:31 Alternative link; CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html
10:31 TR Bot; Opinion | The Kids Are Right About Email, Too - The New York Times
10:33 SomeH4x0r; what kids?
10:37 TR News; "We are very proud to announce that the GNU Health project has been declared a Digital Public Good by the Digital Public Goods Alliance (DPGA)." https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health
10:37 Alternative link; CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health
10:37 TR Bot; Digital Public Goods Alliance includes GNU Health | Joinup
10:38 TR News; "In response, the Linux report"...NO, LF is NOT Linux https://nationalcybersecuritynews.today/new-security-requirements-introduced-for-medical-device-manufacturers-linux-linuxsecurity/
10:38 TR Bot; New security requirements introduced for medical device manufacturers | #linux | #linuxsecurity - NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY NEWS TODAY
10:43 TR News; Windows TCO https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/04/04/iso-files-with-office-maldocs-protected-view-in-office-2019-and-2021/
10:43 TR Bot; .ISO Files With Office Maldocs & Protected View in Office 2019 and 2021 | Didier Stevens
10:44 TR News; Windows TCO ttps://www.computerworld.com/article/3655972/the-russian-cyberattack-threat-might-force-a-new-it-stance.html
10:44 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: oh, u!
10:45 TR News; Surveillance: Your Digital Footprint https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/
10:45 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/
10:45 TR Bot; Digital Footprint: It's Bigger Than You Realize - CNET
10:46 TR News; "That leads to problem No. 2: Once a TikTok video starts to get attention, there are no checks on its spread" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/
10:46 SomeH4x0r; going to read later, I guess
10:46 Alternative link; CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/
10:46 TR Bot; TikToks Algorithm Spews Out Viral Villains - The Atlantic
10:46 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: many think gmail is email
10:46 schestowitz-TR; nowadays
10:46 TR News; "The purchase, equal to 9.2 percent of the company, appears to make Mr. Musk Twitters largest shareholder." https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia
10:46 Alternative link; CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia
10:46 TR Bot; Business News for April 4, 2022 - The New York Times
10:47 TR News; "Musk's filing did not disclose the purpose of the purchase or any plans for the company." https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html
10:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html
10:47 TR Bot; Musk buys 9.2% of Twitter, making him the largest shareholder | CNN Business
10:48 TR News; "The final reason a local [spy] home is better is for security reasons. With clown connected devices your data is being sent out to someone else" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/
10:48 Alternative link; CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/
10:48 TR Bot; 5 Reasons Your Smart Home Should Be Local
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10:57 TR News; #cnet has become Microsoft spam and little else; https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec iophk: linux mint is not mentioned even once
10:57 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec
10:57 TR Bot; Irritating Windows 10 Defaults You Don't Have to Live With - CNET
10:57 TR News; old: Apple vs Right to Repair: Part 2! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/9l3f1KrMQeo Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
10:57 TR Bot; Apple vs Right to Repair: Part 2! - Invidious
10:58 TR News; YouTubes Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2 Source: DistroTube
10:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2
10:58 TR Bot; Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 317.48
10:59 TR News; old: Steam Deck Will Make Linux Mainstream https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7 Source: geotechland
10:59 Alternative link; CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7
10:59 TR Bot; Steam Deck Will Make Linux Mainstream
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11:00 TR News; The safety and security argument doesnt fly in the medical device industry either https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4 Source: rossmanngroup
11:00 Alternative link; CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4
11:00 TR Bot; The safety and security argument doesn't fly in the medical device industry either
11:00 TR News; iophk: given the focus of two of the three policy units, they would have to ban Microsoft https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3258123-state-department-formally-launches-new-cyber-bureau/
11:00 TR Bot; State Department formally launches new cyber bureau | The Hill
11:01 TR News; helsinki.fi blocked by javascript https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/mathematics-and-science/how-did-30-year-old-linux-conquer-world GNU/Linux turns 40 next year.
11:01 TR Bot; How did the 30-year-old Linux conquer the world? | University of Helsinki
11:02 TR News; Who SENDS these packages? https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/04/05/malicious-open-source-packages-video/ Microsoft? http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/
11:02 TR Bot; What you need to look out for when installing packages from public repositories - Help Net Security
11:02 TR Bot; Corporate Media Slanting Microsofts Shipping of Racist Malware as Protestware (and an Open Source Issue) | Techrights
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11:04 TR News; Microsoft is NOT "public repositories"; it's a PRIVATE repo based on proprietary software. And it's governed by people who literally came from the NSA.
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11:22 TR News; Olgarchy is NOT free speech https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-takes-9-percent-stake-twitter-slamming-companys-free-speech-rcna22805
11:22 TR Bot; Elon Musk buys 9 percent stake in Twitter
11:22 TR News; Surely they will ban Windows if they're true to their objective https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3258123-state-department-formally-launches-new-cyber-bureau
11:23 TR News; "In line with the EU Digital Compass, Finlands digital compass revolves around four cardinal points: skills, digital infrastructure, the digital transformation of businesses" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html
11:23 Alternative link; CloudFlare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html
11:23 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html )
11:23 TR News; "The Commission will provide an assessment of the implementation of the digital principles in the annual State of the Digital Decade report." https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en
11:23 Alternative link; CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en
11:23 TR Bot; Europes Digital Decade: digital targets for 2030 | European Commission
11:27 TR News; Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163368
11:27 TR Bot; Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates | Tux Machines
11:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Musk and Twitter....
11:36 DaemonFC; Buying shares of a failing platform that's completely overrun with bots and ads.
11:42 TR News; Misinformation in China and Russia https://www.vox.com/23005295/china-russia-ukraine-war-media-censorship
11:42 TR Bot; Chinese media is saying about Russias Ukraine war - Vox
11:42 TR News; Misinformation in the West also: "Some 30% of UK adults who use the internet 14.5 million are unsure about or do not even consider the truthfulness of the information" https://www.thenational.wales/news/20030149.ofcom-one-three-internet-users-cannot-spot-false-accounts-content/
11:42 TR Bot; Ofcom: One in three internet users cannot spot false accounts or content | The National Wales
11:43 TR News; Misinformation (also, there are many different vaccines) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html
11:43 Alternative link; CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html
↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html
11:43 TR Bot; Robert Malone Spreads Falsehoods About Vaccines. He Also Says He Invented Some. - The New York Times
11:44 TR News; "The auto bad word monitor reportedly blacklists profanities and inappropriate terms but also targets terms related to organized labor" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3258978-amazon-eyeing-plan-to-ban-words-such-as-union-restrooms-and-slave-labor-from-internal-chat-app-report/
11:44 TR Bot; Amazon eyeing plan to ban words such as union, restrooms and slave labor from internal chat app: report | The Hill
11:44 TR News; SweatshopZone https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23006562/amazon-labor-union-jfk8-win-contract-negotiations-expansion
11:44 TR Bot; Amazon union workers won in New York can they win across the country? - The Verge
11:46 TR News; CC position https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/
11:46 Alternative link; CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/
11:46 TR Bot; CC publishes policy paper titled Towards Better Sharing of Cultural Heritage An Agenda for Copyright Reform - Creative Commons
11:47 TR News; Clearview ought not even EXIST https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/
11:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/
11:47 TR Bot; Clearview AI Fined in Italy, Starts Scanning Dead Russian Soldiers in Ukraine
11:49 TR News; "This was once the fault line between East and West in Europe. Almost 35 years after the momentous change brought about by the fall of the Wall" https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left
11:49 Alternative link; CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left
11:49 TR Bot; "F*ck Leftist Westsplaining!" | The Nation
11:52 TR News; GNU/Linux SBCs in real education https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/
11:52 Alternative link; CloudFlare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/
11:52 TR Bot; Exploring cross-disciplinary computing education in our new seminar series - Raspberry Pi
11:53 TR News; SweatshopZone https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/4/workers_organize_first_amazon_labor_union
11:53 TR Bot; We Just Unionized Amazon: How Two Best Friends Beat the Retail Giants Union-Busting Campaign | Democracy Now!
11:54 TR News; The Case of Julian Assange University Lecture https://dontextraditeassange.com/events/europe-justice-press-freedom-the-case-of-julian-assange-university-lecture/
11:54 TR Bot; Europe, Justice & Press Freedom: The Case of Julian Assange - University Lecture - Don't Extradite Assange
11:56 TR News; Tor is becoming more dependent on NSA-controlled Rust (Microsoft GitHub proprietary software), markets this as 'security' https://blog.torproject.org/arti_020_released/ GitHub 'security' = NSA veterans
11:56 TR Bot; Arti 0.2.0 is released: Your somewhat-stable API is here! | The Tor Project
11:57 DaemonFC; gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/cnn/current/24.gmi
11:57 DaemonFC; CNN with Breaking News
11:57 DaemonFC; Why coffee makes you poop!
11:57 *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@s4ijqcub7r434.irc) has joined #techrights
11:57 TR News; Rule #1 of Rust: don't talk about antitRUST (or Microsoft crimes) http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/
11:58 TR Bot; Beware Mozilla and Rust, Theyre Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | Techrights
12:00 TR News; Free speech perished https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/
12:00 Alternative link; CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/
12:00 TR Bot; More Book Bans Sought in 2021 Than Any Other Point in Past 20 Years, Group Says
12:01 TR News; Cancel the patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0
12:01 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0
12:01 TR Bot; 'A Victory for the Virus': Congress Cuts New Global Covid Aid to $0
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12:03 TR News; They should focus on the patents that are causing it, not governments that won't pay the patent cartel https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest
12:03 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest
12:03 TR Bot; 'A Poor People's Pandemic': Poorest US Counties Suffered Twice the Covid Deaths of Richest
12:03 DaemonFC; GNOME really does itself a disservice by not having Long Term Support releases.
12:04 DaemonFC; The attitude of upstream is that if you're a version or two behind, your bugs don't matter anymore.
12:04 TR News; Almost no children die from COVID-19. Be sceptical of people who push marketing lies for the patent cartel, trying to impose these on rich children (it's about money, not safety). https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/
12:04 Alternative link; CloudFlare: respectfulinsolence.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/
12:04 TR Bot; Bioethics recycles old antivax tropes about COVID vaccines for children - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
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12:06 TR News; The platforms chosen by the EFF contradict its own stance of policy (if they still have any) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-your-tax-dollars-work
12:06 TR Bot; Podcast Episode: Your Tax Dollars At Work | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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12:07 TR News; Malware? Android itself is malware. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/anatomy-android-malware-dropper
12:07 TR Bot; Anatomy of an Android Malware Dropper | Electronic Frontier Foundation
12:08 TR News; When vain oligarchs buy out all the important media https://fair.org/home/corporate-press-scapegoats-vulnerable-homeless-for-rise-in-subway-crime/
12:08 TR Bot; Corporate Press Scapegoats Vulnerable Homeless for Rise in Subway Crime - FAIR
12:17 activelow; meanwhile, i can verify gtk3 is unavailable with gcc-4.7, due to a dependency chain against icu library, which is with the required version c++14
12:18 activelow; i remember, icu library, was nasty 8 years ago already, not sure what it was, yet the guidelines for c++ had forbidden it's use in automotive, without some changes
12:19 activelow; could be, it was rtti and c++ exceptions, and some years later it is c++14;
12:19 TR News; Microsoft needs to be put out of business https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/day-action-antitrust-our-rights-are-tied-having-choices
12:19 TR Bot; Day of Action for Antitrust: Our Rights Are Tied to Having Choices | Electronic Frontier Foundation
12:21 activelow; i don't consider this critical, because the focus is a clean base-system, and anything else (with c++ dependencies) won't be reviewed anymore
12:22 activelow; and the upgrade path from gcc-4.7 c-only -> gcc-4.7 with c++ -> gcc-6.5 succeeds
12:22 TR News; Feudalism at SweatshopZone draws backlash https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively
12:22 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively
12:22 TR Bot; Amazon Union Slams Any Attempt to 'Delay Our Hard-Won Right to Bargain Collectively'
12:23 activelow; and what's far more important is: tinycc -> gcc-4.7, and tcc compiling anything else inside base system
12:24 TR News; "While the average computer user likely hasnt given much thought to the lowly serial port in decades, the same cant be said for the hardware hacker" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/04/samd11-provides-two-serial-ports-for-price-of-one/
12:24 TR Bot; Provides Two Serial Ports For Price Of One | Hackaday
12:27 TR News; USA is not a rich country. It is a ROBBED country. https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/
12:27 Alternative link; CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/
12:27 TR Bot; Sanders Announces Budget Committee Hearing on Corporate Greed and Profiteering
12:30 TR News; More need to follow what these SweatshopZone workers did https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed
12:30 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed
12:30 TR Bot; Opinion | Amazon Workers' Historic Win and Corporate America's Ongoing Greed | Robert Reich
12:31 TR News; Microsoft proxy DuckDuckGo in there. Is this how the criminals from Microsoft are looking to distract from their own corruption? ttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/antitrust-day-action-takes-aim-power-tech-giants
12:33 TR News; "The FBI had a crypto-messenger programmed that was fully intercepted. For legal reasons, the US authority received the intercepted communication via detours" https://digit.site36.net/2022/04/04/german-anom-investigations-the-mysterious-eu-third-state/ activelow
12:33 TR Bot; German ANOM investigations: The mysterious EU third state Matthias Monroy
12:34 TR News; They gave their rations to the people in the basement, then threw down a grenade https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade
12:34 Alternative link; CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade
12:34 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:35 TR News; Bad laws beget bad faith https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
12:35 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
12:35 TR Bot; Are Now Forging Emergency Data Requests To Talk Tech Companies Out Of User Data | Techdirt
12:36 TR News; Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4S SO-DIMM module is powered by Broadcom BCM2711 SoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163369
12:36 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4S SO-DIMM module is powered by Broadcom BCM2711 SoC | Tux Machines
12:44 TR News; pedo guy "Elon Musk appears to have a childlike understanding of free speech" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/ so biggest owner of Twitter is the man who uses Twitter to slander innocent people, even heroes, as "pedo guy"
12:44 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/
12:44 TR Bot; Musk Is Now Twitters Largest Shareholder; And Thats Probably Not A Good Thing | Techdirt
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12:48 TR News; Sci-Hub should be used by everybody as a default https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/
12:48 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/
12:48 TR Bot; Only Option For Academics In Russia After Major Publishers Pull Out * TorrentFreak
12:49 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163370
12:49 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
12:50 TR News; Organized Crime? Go to Microsoft UK. Lots of criminals there. https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/
12:50 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/
12:50 TR Bot; IPTV: Police Organized Crime Unit Arrests Three Men in UK * TorrentFreak
12:51 *CrystalMath (~coderain@y2ywbcuvqi5g2.irc) has joined #techrights
12:51 TR News; "Florida federal Judge Darrin Gayles has dismissed Content ID-related antitrust claims against GulagTube" https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/
12:51 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/
12:51 TR Bot; Drops Antitrust Claims From YouTube Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
12:52 TR News; fossforce gets paid by Zemlin for this webspam of LF https://fossforce.com/2022/04/free-training-and-certification-linux-foundation-taking-submissions-for-lift-scholarships see http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/
12:52 TR Bot; Free Training and Certification: Linux Foundation Taking Submissions for LiFT Scholarships - FOSS Force
12:52 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights
12:55 TR News; "reforms are a welcome step forward in reforming the secrecy surrounding electronic surveillance" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/ndo-fairness-act-important-step-towards-transparency
12:55 TR Bot; The NDO Fairness Act Is an Important Step Towards Transparency | Electronic Frontier Foundation
12:55 TR News; "Editors Note: After publication, we were alerted the that key story about the councilwoman, was actually from a few years ago, not recently." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/
12:55 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/
12:55 TR Bot; Councilwoman Shared Video Claiming That 5G Is An Extinction Level Event | Techdirt
12:58 TR News; "Its your right to request records from public agencies. That fact cannot be disputed." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/
12:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/
12:58 TR Bot; Jersey Town Sues 82-Year-Old Woman For Exercising Her Rights | Techdirt
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 282.90
13:00 TR News; Remember to BOYCOTT SweatshopZone (Amazon) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app
13:00 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app
13:00 TR Bot; 'This Seems Totally Illegal': Amazon May Ban Union Terms in Messaging App
13:01 TR News; "Its more difficult to choose your investors than your customers" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/
13:01 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/
13:01 TR Bot; Human Rights Abuser Is One Of NSO Groups Main Investors | Techdirt
13:03 TR News; Stop carrying so-called 'smart' so-called 'phones'. There are mostly DOWNsides associated with them. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/
13:03 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/
13:03 TR Bot; Court In Massachusetts Says Cops Unconstitutionally Obtained Cell Tower Dumps In Homicide Case | Techdirt
13:04 TR News; "I dream of a day where Black women don't have to be overqualified, jump through hoops, and face misogynoir just to get to the jobs they already deserve." Now we can have corporate shills in SCOTUS, provided they're the right gender/race. Substance does not matter. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/jacksons-scotus-nomination-clears-deadlocked-senate-judiciary-committee
13:04 Alternative link; CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/jacksons-scotus-nomination-clears-deadlocked-senate-judiciary-committee https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/jacksons-scotus-nomination-clears-deadlocked-senate-judiciary-committee
13:04 TR Bot; Jackson's SCOTUS Nomination Clears Deadlocked Senate Judiciary Committee
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13:26 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163371
13:26 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:26 TR News; GNU Health and Other GNU Projects (Amin Bandali Continues Mike Gerwitzs Work) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163372
13:26 TR Bot; GNU Health and Other GNU Projects (Amin Bandali Continues Mike Gerwitz's Work) | Tux Machines
13:26 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163373
13:27 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163374
13:27 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163375
13:27 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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13:34 TR News; 5 Best Zombie Games for Linux: Play To Get A Thrilling Experience https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-zombie-games-for-linux/
13:34 Alternative link; CloudFlare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-zombie-games-for-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-zombie-games-for-linux/
13:34 TR Bot; 5 Best Zombie Games for Linux: Play To Get A Thrilling Experience
13:35 TR News; Wine manager 'Bottles' improves Steam Proton support, adds configurable environments | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-bottles-improves-steam-proton-support-adds-configurable-environments/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
13:35 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-bottles-improves-steam-proton-support-adds-configurable-environments/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-bottles-improves-steam-proton-support-adds-configurable-environments/
13:35 TR Bot; manager 'Bottles' improves Steam Proton support, adds configurable environments | GamingOnLinux
13:37 TR News; Steam Deck Plugin Loader gets upgraded, easier to install | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-upgraded-easier-to-install/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
13:37 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-upgraded-easier-to-install/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-upgraded-easier-to-install/
13:37 TR Bot; Deck Plugin Loader gets upgraded, easier to install | GamingOnLinux
13:38 TR News; Seems like webspam or product promotions to me (untagged) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/dbrand-now-have-steam-deck-skins-and-wraps/
13:38 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/dbrand-now-have-steam-deck-skins-and-wraps/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/dbrand-now-have-steam-deck-skins-and-wraps/
13:38 TR Bot; now have Steam Deck Skins and Wraps | GamingOnLinux
13:42 TR News; Censorship in Russia and its impact on the free press and social control media https://www.ctpublic.org/show/where-we-live/2022-04-01/censorship-in-russia-what-journalism-and-social-media-look-like-in-a-censorship-state
13:42 TR Bot; Censorship in Russia and its impact on the free press and social media | Connecticut Public
13:44 TR News; Games: Ray Tracing, Steam Deck, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163376
13:44 TR Bot; Games: Ray Tracing, Steam Deck, and More | Tux Machines
13:45 schestowitz; psydruid: https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/
13:45 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/
13:45 TR Bot; How to get your domain suspended in five easy steps! - CNX Software
13:45 schestowitz; I've not rewad it yet
13:45 schestowitz; reading
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13:48 TR News; DNS system can take down your site. FOR DAYS. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/
13:48 Alternative link; CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/
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13:54 matey; lol
13:55 matey; or, just fuck dns altogether (but for this instance some may consider that a heavy-handed response)
13:55 matey; the nice thing about this approach is it fixes a lot of other problems too
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14:09 bnchs; hey hey
14:09 bnchs; catch this
14:09 bnchs; https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/
14:09 Alternative link; CloudFlare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/
14:09 TR Bot; New Amazon Worker Chat App Would Ban Words Like Union
14:11 psydruid; it's like these big companies want to make it impossible to work for smaller ones, as those won't exist in the future anymore
14:11 psydruid; so you either work a shitty job for Amazon or you become marginalised and possibly unemployed in society
14:13 TR News; Links 05/04/2022: Antitrust Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/antitrust-day/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/antitrust-day/
14:13 TR Bot; Links 05/04/2022: Antitrust Day | Techrights
14:13 bnchs; https://files.catbox.moe/fmlmsw.jpg
14:13 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163377
14:13 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/fmlmsw.jpg )
14:13 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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14:29 matey; <psydruid> so you either work a shitty job for Amazon or you become marginalised and possibly unemployed in society <- theres a third option
14:29 SomeH4x0r; hi matey
14:29 matey; hi SomeH4x0r
14:30 matey; glad if you are well
14:30 SomeH4x0r; yes, just ISP issues
14:30 matey; none as bad as cnx i hope
14:30 matey; silly dns
14:31 matey; dns isnt as bad as systemd, though like systemd its only going to get worse, not better
14:31 matey; and it gives corporations too much power over computing
14:31 psydruid; systemd-dnsd
14:31 matey; heh
14:31 matey; the answer to dns is this
14:32 matey; cryptographic hash instead of a centralised (even distributed with centralised authority) db
14:32 matey; then when people want a new website, they add an entry-- perhaps by clicking something
14:32 matey; as a bonus, this means websites never load until theyre whitelisted
14:33 SomeH4x0r; it is not DNS, something with ADSL
14:33 matey; i would imply that solves phishing, but as soon as you click whitelist you know, youre hooked-- so it doesnt solve phishing for suckers (or non-technical people)
14:33 matey; something with ADS <- sorry to hear
14:33 matey; L
14:35 matey; but it means that instead of some authority telling you where you can and cant go-- when you find a new website you click something, it adds an entry to your personal directory, and from then on you can go to it by typing a url instead of using the hash
14:35 matey; the hash will also work of course-- the other url is a convenience
14:36 matey; and browsers that support this will translate the url to the hash, so the website ITSELF would use the hash only (as base href for example)
14:37 matey; you could make it even more convenient, i suppose, by having a scheme like this:
14:37 matey; hash/suggestedurl/ <- this is the root of the website
14:37 bnchs; systemd-suckmyd
14:37 bnchs; ick
14:38 matey; then instead of manually typing in a url, it would suggest one
14:38 matey; if it overlapped with an existing entry you would have the opportunity to alter it
14:39 matey; so for example techrights.org would be hash/techrights.org/ (the latter is an actual folder) and when you went there youd have the opportunity to save "hash" as "techrights.org"
14:39 matey; your bookmarks would be to hash/techrights.org
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14:40 matey; but when you went to techrights.org/ it would take you to techrights.org/techrights.org
14:40 bnchs; matey: just use a phonebook
14:40 bnchs; a domainbook
14:40 matey; bnchs: im talking about how to make the domainbook trivial to populate/maintain
14:40 bnchs; yeah
14:40 matey; the use of a domainbook is a given here
14:40 bnchs; well just buy a domainbook from someone
14:41 bnchs; download*
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14:41 matey; bnchs: no, this gives the user full control
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14:41 matey; but...
14:41 bnchs; no i mean
14:41 bnchs; a domainbook
14:41 bnchs; to help the user
14:41 matey; as a shortcut they could start with a domainbook by default
14:41 bnchs; not overwrite their configurations
14:41 matey; yeah, that works
14:41 bnchs; matey: thats what im talking about
14:41 matey; right
14:41 matey; not a bad idea
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14:42 matey; the domainbook could be maintained by a community of users
14:42 matey; or various books from various communities
14:42 matey; and then the user of course could override any entries on their machine
14:42 matey; but the community would have most of the work done
14:43 matey; a reasonable concern with this approach is that many people would only use the "defaults" and this would lend a soft tyranny to the community that maintained the most popular book
14:43 matey; other than that i like it
14:43 matey; no plan works well with an uneducated and docile public
14:43 matey; (relatively docile, stirred up to support bullshit now and again, like what you see today)
14:44 matey; /me mumbles libreplanet
14:45 bnchs; https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-28380
14:45 TR Bot; NVD - CVE-2022-28380
14:45 matey; whats it do
14:45 bnchs; 4chan /g/ thread archived cited on a CVE
14:45 matey; ha
14:45 bnchs; archive*
14:45 matey; /me thinks 4chan should have a linguistic forum called /upsidedownribboncharacter/
14:46 matey; i dont know what the upside down ribbon character is called
14:46 matey; im sure xrevan86 does
14:47 bnchs; it was a path traversal vulnerability
14:47 matey; of course it would be very perverse, since theyre basically anarchists when it comes to linguistics
14:47 bnchs; in 9front (plan 9 fork)
14:47 matey; hmm, i would have thought 9front was more robust than that
14:47 bnchs; for example you could do http://server/..%2f..%2f/
14:47 TR Bot; not resolve host: server; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://server/..%2f..%2f/ )
14:47 matey; and by more robust i mean unrealistically devoid of vulnerabilities
14:48 matey; and by unrealistically i mean "of course not"
14:48 bnchs; probably a problem with the web server
14:48 bnchs; percent-decoding after removing the dots
14:48 matey; right
14:49 matey; it matters what order you do things in
14:49 bnchs; i mean the ../
14:49 bnchs; but if you do ..%2f
14:49 bnchs; it doesnt reconignze that
14:49 matey; like if you process something in all lowercase... then after that, you make it all lowercase
14:49 bnchs; until it decodes it to ../
14:49 matey; of course
14:50 bnchs; anyway its funny how a 4chan thread got referenced in a...... government... web. site
14:50 matey; i agree
14:50 bnchs; crap they're watching
14:50 matey; like we didnt know
14:51 matey; they must be laughing their arses off
14:51 matey; how old is the cve?
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14:52 matey; they got him :(
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15:10 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/9hGbepG.mp4
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15:13 matey; <MinceR> (cat) (audio) = "it has audio" (vs a modern "gif" which isnt a gif) or "audio only" (despite being mp4 which is a video format)
15:14 matey; (audio:important) is more obvious
15:14 matey; but this is something different
15:17 matey; /me assumes (cat) (audio) = "it has audio" (vs a modern "gif" which isnt a gif)
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16:08 TR News; Yesterday, to access the W3C Web site, without Tor or anything special, I was asked to press on pictures of boats. Not once. Several 'rounds'. This is the future of the Web as W3C sees it? What about people who cannot even see????????
16:08 TR News; Fwupd 1.7.7 Adds Support for Logitech M550, M650 and K650, More StarLite Laptops Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163378
16:08 TR Bot; Fwupd 1.7.7 Adds Support for Logitech M550, M650 and K650, More StarLite Laptops | Tux Machines
16:09 TR News; Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379
16:09 TR Bot; Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
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16:29 TR News; The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/
16:29 TR Bot; The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights
16:42 XRevan86; matey: "i dont know what the upside down ribbon character is called" <- The what now? Lambda?
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16:56 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah0gW25F_PY
16:56 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ah0gW25F_PY
16:56 TR Bot; yewtu.be | The Gift Basket - Gabriel Iglesias - Invidious
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16:58 TR News; [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/
16:58 TR Bot; [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 51.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 88.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 316.96
17:00 matey; Lambda? <- i thought a lambda looked different
17:01 matey; maybe its the vegan kind
17:01 matey; i do not claim knowledge of these things
17:02 MinceR; lol
17:04 matey; /me blames python, which has shitty lambdas
17:04 MinceR; "do i have to make my own wedgie or can i buy one from a witch or vegan?"
17:04 matey; haha
17:04 MinceR; hy fixes python's lambdas
17:04 matey; /me wishes hy could fix pythons unicode strings
17:05 matey; id be happy with from __past__ import strings but NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo
17:05 matey; this is the ONE TRUE STRING, now GUESS the encoding!
17:05 matey; fuck
17:05 MinceR; try using bytes instead of string
17:06 TR News; Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/
17:06 TR Bot; Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights
17:06 MinceR; it's the old str
17:06 matey; oh i know
17:06 matey; well...
17:06 matey; i mean if im going to use bytes i might as well go back to c
17:06 matey; its a bit tedious
17:06 MinceR; i'm pretty sure there are other differences between c and python
17:06 MinceR; plus there are no lambdas in c
17:06 matey; as far as i know, theres no way to just say "here, dammit"
17:06 matey; plus there are no lambdas in c <- im not leet enough to use lambdas
17:07 matey; i tried one once, but i didnt compile
17:07 MinceR; also, if you can use hy, you can use another lisp dialect, like common lisp or scheme :>
17:07 matey; as long as its not guile
17:07 matey; i draw the line at guild
17:07 matey; guile
17:08 matey; there are a few dialects of lisp in my fork of the fsd
17:08 matey; ive thought about trying to pick one to play with
17:08 matey; since theyre not github based. but i figure they have no libraries either
17:08 MinceR; :)
17:08 matey; if i want to say... interface with the screen, or a keyboard, or a file, or... anything outside the program, i honestly dont know what my options are outside of racket
17:09 MinceR; so far i like sbcl
17:09 matey; and racket isnt just in bed with microsoft, its the little spoon
17:09 matey; funny you mention sbcl
17:09 MinceR; i didn't know racket was involved with MICROS~1
17:09 matey; its the one that looks most promising from a completely superficial once-over
17:10 matey; i mean, you know how it is with microsoft-- you have to guess a lot
17:10 matey; but heres a hint...
17:10 MinceR; i would hope you know something concrete if you bring it up :>
17:10 matey; https://racket-lang.org/ "Thank you To the NSF, DARPA, the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE) at the US Department of Education, the Exxon Foundation, CORD, partners of the Academy of Information Technology, Microsoft, Mozilla, Google, and many individuals for their generous support over the years."
17:10 Alternative link; CloudFlare: racket-lang.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://racket-lang.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://racket-lang.org/
17:10 TR Bot; Racket
17:10 matey; so how significant is that? back to guessing
17:11 matey; thats on their front page
17:11 MinceR; i see
17:11 matey; plus github (obviously)
17:11 matey; i mean you wont find a large project that never had a sponsor
17:11 matey; ant any rate, heres the thing-- you ask me what i know about it, ill generally tell you
17:11 matey; im not just coy about everything
17:11 matey; maybe its nothing. maybe it was just a summer fling
17:12 matey; openbsd got money from microsoft once. fsf got the same amount of from google.
17:12 matey; is it good? no. is there evidence the money accomplished anything sinister? no, its openbsd.
17:12 matey; but i would be unhappy if it persisted
17:12 matey; even if it did, find more a more forkable, less bullshit operating system. im always looking.
17:13 matey; debian? rofl
17:13 matey; more like debibm
17:13 MinceR; deadian
17:13 matey; systemd-debiand
17:14 matey; i like an os that constantly runs a compoenent that rules all the others which says "fuck users, i dont give a damn what they want"
17:14 matey; "and my developers will tell you the same"
17:14 matey; openbsd says "if you dont like this, dont use it"-- it rarely goes around saying things like "debian this is your wakeup call" or "hey gnome, we would like your to be dependent on our os in some way"
17:15 matey; because canadians are polite (even when they burn down the white house, theyre probably very apologetic about it)
17:15 matey; running away from the blaze yelling "sorry! sorry!"
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17:17 MinceR; if that happened, they did that as part of the kingdom of great britain, didn't they? :>
17:17 matey; if mark shuttlework burned the white house down he would say "can you trust us with matches? erm, we have top clearance! you already trust us with matches!"
17:17 MinceR; :>
17:17 matey; they did that as part of the kingdom of great britain, didn't they? <- i mean, brits are known for their dark humour. they could say it was a bit.
17:18 *bnchs (~bnchs@b9wm2yv3u6wx8.irc) has joined #techrights
17:18 matey; "the americans, they have no sense of irony!"
17:19 matey; "if you even had a bloody sense of humour youd see how hilarious this is"
17:19 matey; "sure, i bet india is laughing too"
17:19 matey; "well yes, some of them, surely"
17:20 matey; sooner or later though they outsourced most of the empire building to the states
17:21 matey; "i mean theyre much keener on it and they have quite a bit of land, so why not?"
17:21 matey; warhub
17:24 TR News; Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories' Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/05/corona-is-up/
17:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year
17:25 bnchs; well
17:25 bnchs; there's a beta port of godot editor to android
17:25 bnchs; you can now make godot games in android phones/tablets
17:25 bnchs; although it requires a big screen
17:25 matey; /me thought godot supported android like 5 years ago
17:25 bnchs; yeah
17:25 MinceR; is there an FPS based on Godot yet?
17:25 bnchs; but this is the editor
17:25 matey; oh opk
17:25 matey; ok
17:26 bnchs; but i don't apperciate them being bribed by M$ to add C# support
17:26 bnchs; even though it's in a different edition
17:29 psydruid; I hope all of that junk is removed when M$ finally goes under
17:29 psydruid; M$ has been a huge negative value to the world throughout its existence
17:29 matey; godotengine.org/article/george-marques-will-be-working-full-time-project He is responsible for the UWP port, as well as a lot of improvements and fixes across the engine. He is the main contributor behind the GDScript rewrite for Godot 3.1
17:30 matey; whats the uwp port?
17:30 matey; He is the main contributor behind the GDScript rewrite
17:30 bnchs; UWP is a windows thing
17:31 matey; <bnchs> but i don't apperciate them being bribed by M$ to add C# support <- george-marques also signed the anti-rms letter
17:31 matey; but it looks like only 2 people did
17:31 MinceR; who's george-marques?
17:31 matey; thats not many
17:31 bnchs; so that means godot is also taken over?
17:31 MinceR; godot person?
17:31 matey; godot person?v <- maybe a prominent one. but i dont follow godot closel
17:31 matey; at any rate it has a large team yes?
17:31 MinceR; \_()_/
17:32 matey; im not sure holding a large team to the action of two signers is reasonable
17:32 bnchs; https://godotengine.org/download
17:32 Alternative link; CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/download https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/download
17:32 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Download | Linux
17:32 bnchs; there's standard version
17:32 matey; if he were the leader of godot id be inclined to
17:32 bnchs; and mono version (with c#)
17:32 matey; mono = uwp?
17:32 MinceR; i hear someone plug Godot from time to time on channels of an FPS, then reveal that no one has ever actually built an FPS on it :>
17:32 matey; i was interested in godot until the github purchase-- then not
17:33 bnchs; lemme check something out
17:33 matey; basically github keeps me from trying new software. until more forks away start to happen
17:33 bnchs; Juan Linietsky
17:33 matey; theres also non-github based software. i HAVE seen a FEW things move to gitlab at least
17:33 bnchs; he's the lead dev of godot
17:34 bnchs; Rmi Verschelde
17:34 matey; gitlab sucks, but its away from the github monopoly
17:34 bnchs; he's the current maintainer of godot
17:34 matey; oh that sucks!
17:34 matey; hes the other signer
17:34 matey; Rmi Verschelde and the other guy i mentioned
17:34 matey; so yeah the leader of godot is anti-stallman
17:34 matey; bummer
17:34 bnchs; well he's just the current maintainer of godot
17:34 matey; sure
17:34 matey; i mean thats true
17:35 matey; maybe when hwe isnt...
17:35 *psydruid wonders when Github will finally go under
17:35 psydruid; the sooner the better
17:36 schestowitz-TR; it can take a while
17:36 schestowitz-TR; think long haul
17:36 bnchs; the maintainer hasn't gotten as much commits as the lead dev
17:36 schestowitz-TR; in the mean time it costs Microsoft money
17:36 bnchs; Juan Linietsky
17:36 schestowitz-TR; like twitter, it's social control
17:36 schestowitz-TR; thney lverage it for manipulation
17:36 psydruid; so maybe it should bleed money as long as possible
17:36 schestowitz-TR; rather than for money
17:36 psydruid; so cause more damage to the mothership
17:36 matey; Juan Linietsky
17:36 psydruid; to*
17:36 bnchs; matey: it's also odd this was mentioned in the wikipedia page
17:37 matey; & not a siugner
17:37 matey; it's also odd this was mentioned in the wikipedia page <- what was
17:37 bnchs; "Godot received a $24,000 donation from Microsoft to implement C# as a scripting language in Godot"
17:37 matey; maybe it should bleed money as long as possible <- i think bleeding money was part of the plan
17:37 matey; theyre not bleeding it, theyre spending it on something worth more to them
17:38 MinceR; they're buying influence
17:38 matey; yes
17:38 bnchs; i'm pretty sure
17:38 MinceR; they're buying mindshare
17:38 matey; theyre buying influence
17:38 MinceR; they're even buying customers
17:38 bnchs; this is the only public microsoft bribery
17:38 bnchs; i've seen
17:38 psydruid; and developers who use Github are influencers
17:38 bnchs; 24 grand to implement microsoft tech
17:38 matey; roy used to quite-- we will get them hooke don etc figure out how to make money later
17:38 psydruid; Github social media influencers
17:38 matey; quote ^
17:38 matey; developers who use Github are influencers <- heh
17:41 matey; http://techrights.org/2010/02/24/gates-controlling-the-system/ (2010) <- Bill Gates once said that theyll get sort of addicted, and then well somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade.
17:41 TR Bot; Gates Foundation is Planting Stories in the Press and Called World-wide Killing Machine by CRS | Techrights
17:41 matey; so this at least used to be a concern. id say its more of one now, as MORE are addicted
17:41 psydruid; I knew that early on
17:42 matey; sure theyve always done this
17:42 bnchs; i find it funny
17:42 bnchs; what if
17:42 psydruid; I never developed a dependency on anything in the Microsoft environment
17:42 bnchs; microsoft has just been bribing people with 24 grand
17:42 psydruid; so I am free to move from anything to anything
17:42 bnchs; to depend their programs in microsoft
17:42 matey; <psydruid> I never developed a dependency on anything in the Microsoft environment <- but dependencies themselves move there too
17:43 psydruid; matey, that's the subversion that happened later on at a time when I didn't even realise what was happening
17:43 psydruid; I only noticed systemd and friends in 2017
17:43 psydruid; because my machine just wouldn't shut down
17:44 psydruid; little did I know they had been inserting all sorts of crap into GNU/Linux
17:45 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032929
17:45 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/yj253q39kop81.jpg created on 2022-03-29 12:05:22.121993
17:45 TR News; KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/
17:45 TR Bot; KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights
17:46 bnchs; yo momma so fat
17:47 bnchs; she devours food faster than systemd devours your system
17:47 matey; <psydruid> matey, that's the subversion that happened later on at a time when I didn't even realise what was happening <- oh its not your fault
17:47 matey; its just the nature of the problem
17:48 matey; roy said i used to "pull out my hair" over github depedencies
17:48 matey; theres a reason i used to pay attention to those
17:48 matey; its because if you want to track the problem at a resolution beyond "its on github, or its not"
17:48 matey; if you want to actually find which projects are the MOST encumbered
17:48 psydruid; I was mainly a user from 2013 till 2016 and gradually became aware of what had been happening
17:49 schestowitz-TR; matey: did I use those actual words?
17:49 matey; and, if you want to tell people "this doesnt depend on github"-- i mean, non-free deps matter to the fsdg, why wouldnt github-based libraries matter here?
17:49 matey; of course... once you count dependendcies, you realise theres simply no such things as github-free
17:49 matey; you cant make a github-free distro
17:49 matey; it will have libpng if its graphical. it will have harfbuzz if it supports a number of asian languages.
17:50 psydruid; so I moved my desktops over to OpenBSD and started testing the BSDs on various laptops to see how they would work, but have kept them mainly on GNU/Linux so far
17:50 schestowitz-TR; devuan was my first choice for the new laptop
17:50 matey; it will have libffi if it supports languages that allow ctypes
17:50 schestowitz-TR; the wifi chip or component gave it a hard time
17:50 schestowitz-TR; realtek
17:50 matey; <schestowitz-TR> devuan was my first choice for the new laptop <- a solid step in the right direction
17:50 matey; they used to be more ambitious
17:51 schestowitz-TR; when I installed debian 10 it was because I had the CD ready
17:51 matey; st this point id say there is no hope but to have a more modest objective (they should have kept going, like hyperbola did)
17:51 schestowitz-TR; as rianne had installed it months earlier on hers
17:51 matey; but a move away from debian is a move away from debian
17:51 matey; and if everyone did it, the world would realise debian fucked up
17:51 schestowitz-TR; a move away from Debian BASE typically means ICBM
17:51 schestowitz-TR; SUSE< Gentoo and Arch notwithstanding
17:52 matey; a move away from Debian BASE typically means ICBM <- i mean debian IS icbm
17:52 matey; so
17:52 schestowitz-TR; Gentoo is not for me
17:52 matey; you mean fedora i guess
17:52 matey; no, gentoo isnt for me either
17:52 schestowitz-TR; arch is scary because they can jump to newer versions without caution
17:52 matey; yeah im not too fond of rolling release
17:52 schestowitz-TR; and then issue instructions in their site to run some comment to 'correct' it
17:52 schestowitz-TR; *command
17:52 matey; if i was, parabola is better than devuan
17:53 matey; at the very least, parabola is better than arch in every single way
17:53 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163380
17:53 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
17:53 matey; but its still rolling afaik
17:54 bnchs; i use arch
17:54 bnchs; and i got graphical issues in some games but works
17:54 bnchs; in some latest update
18:01 matey; a rolling release is supposed to give you more control over upgrades
18:01 matey; some can even roll back
18:02 matey; if they simply made the default setting on a rolling release "fixed release" somehow
18:02 matey; which should be possible if you have more control
18:02 matey; then it would act like a fixed release by default until you pulled the "freewheeling" pin out
18:02 matey; then everyone would find it superior to fixed release. i guess.
18:03 matey; i dont know, i always thought i was making too much of the difference
18:03 matey; which is why when i actually use rolling release distros, they break in annoying ways
18:03 matey; and then im like "well, what do you expect, its rolling release". surely this is fixable. as in a best-of-both-worlds design.
18:04 matey; fwiw compiling ports is similar
18:04 matey; when a new version comes out (twice a year or so) you want to get stuff from ports before it gets wonky
18:04 matey; compile it when its new-- its the only way i ever got ports to work.
18:05 matey; i compiled bash (didnt have to, i could also just pkg_add bash)
18:05 matey; ive used it once since then
18:08 MinceR; https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/apple-meta-hackers-lapsus-data-sharing-law-enforcement
18:08 TR Bot; Apple and Meta reportedly gave user data to hackers forging requests
18:09 matey; lovely
18:09 matey; silicon republic eh?
18:11 matey; "Apple and Facebook parent company Meta provided user data to cybercriminals last year who requested the information after pretending to be law enforcement, according to a Bloomberg report."
18:11 matey; we wont give your data to anyone-- except law enforcement and fake law enforcement
18:11 matey; and maybe some of our friends
18:12 matey; "Such requests usually require documents signed by judges or search warrants, but Bloomberg reported that special emergency data requests, like the ones the hackers used, can be made when officials require speedy access to data." thanks ellen degenerous!
18:12 TR News; [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/
18:12 TR Bot; [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights
18:13 matey; "We can confirm that Discord received requests from a legitimate law enforcement domain and complied with the requests in accordance with our policies, the company wrote in a statement."
18:13 matey; so theyre not sowing discord, theyre actually reaping it
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18:14 matey; "Future Human reveals first speakers in its May line-up" i guess TECHNICALLY thats the future
18:15 matey; Another important session will be that around the future of the web, says ODea. Theres so much extreme chatter around Web3, NFTs and blockchain and it always seems to be black and white you love whats happening or you hate it. We wanted to have a hype-free, thoughtful discussion on this.
18:15 matey; hmm, web3 without hype
18:15 matey; also known as web
18:16 matey; "The session will be chaired by Pete Townsend, managing director of" different one i guess
18:16 matey; i think at least one dyslexic fan of the who (slightly different spelling) is going to be disappointed
18:16 bnchs; matey: lol
18:16 bnchs; this is what you get
18:17 bnchs; your private messages are not private
18:17 bnchs; you share them with discord staff and the law enforcement
18:22 matey; roy says twitter would collapse
18:22 matey; i said it would become a vanity project for someone really rich
18:22 matey; "
18:22 matey; Elon Musk is now one of Twitters biggest shareholders"
18:23 MinceR; and nothing of value was lost
18:23 matey; true
18:23 *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4j9jkcntt88f2.irc) has joined #techrights
18:23 matey; at any rate it looks like its headed in that direction
18:24 matey; "Survey suggests 90,000 Irish SMEs had data stolen in the last year"
18:24 matey; hehehehe, "smes"
18:25 matey; i heard a joke in ni about a guy named smeeeeeeeeeeee
18:25 matey; well actually he claimed it was a word
18:25 matey; he called in a radio station who was asking for obscure words and he said he had one for them
18:25 matey; it was spelled a-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f
18:26 matey; when they asked him to use it in a sentence he said FUG AFFFFFFFF!
18:26 matey; then he called back and told them there was a word spelled s-m-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
18:26 MinceR; i've heard with GOAN and SMEE
18:26 matey; "SMEEEE AGAIN! FUG AFFFFFFFFF"
18:26 matey; i've heard with GOAN and SMEE <- nice
18:27 matey; goan of course, wouldnt work in ni
18:27 matey; as everyone there uses it.
18:27 matey; "goan, i told im!"
18:28 matey; "have you heard about our john? ees a gay mon nuh!" catherine tate
18:28 TR News; xkcd: Linguistics Degree https://xkcd.com/2602/ Source: xkcd
18:28 TR Bot; Linguistics Degree
18:28 Alternative link; CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2602/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2602/
18:28 matey; its really more like "maun"
18:29 matey; and nuh has way more letters to spell it properly
18:29 MinceR; https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest
18:29 Alternative link; CloudFlare: davesjokes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest
18:29 TR Bot; Radio Contest - Dave's Jokes
18:29 matey; "and on drums is jim but he spells it j-i-c-h-k-i-o-m!"
18:29 matey; https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest <- nice
18:29 Alternative link; CloudFlare: davesjokes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest
18:31 bnchs; matey: elon musk is now one of twitter's biggest shareholders
18:31 bnchs; but he only bought 8%
18:32 bnchs; which means there's very few shareholders that twitter has
18:32 bnchs; their standards are low no wonder
18:32 matey; or very many who hold very little
18:33 matey; supposedly the others are saudi
18:33 bnchs; i wish it was twitter that gone bankrupt
18:33 bnchs; rather than gamestop
18:33 matey; musk wants twitter to run on batteries, they probably want it to run on oil :)
18:33 bnchs; twitter should run on propane
18:34 matey; i think myspace ran on propane
18:34 matey; you used to see tom hooking up a new tank every morning
18:35 MinceR; propane and propane accessories?
18:35 matey; mincer: yyyup
18:35 bnchs; MinceR: free software and free software accessories
18:35 MinceR; propane and propane nightmares
18:36 matey; /me designs a grill based on the reaction between propane and antipane
18:36 matey; it will do your steaks in 30 seconds
18:37 bnchs; atleast sold by someone with a narrow urethra
18:37 matey; the trick is finding people who supply antipane tanks, because they have electromagnetic containment systems
18:37 MinceR; :>
18:37 bnchs; just find pane tanks
18:37 TR News; "In the last couple of years I've mostly seen talk about how the Internet hasn't fulfilled its promise of making the world better. Centralised social media, algorithmic amplification, the control of military drones or state surveillance, proof or work cryptocurrencies." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-05-i-answer-questions-part-iii.gmi
18:37 bnchs; pain or pane
18:37 MinceR; i have plenty of pain
18:38 bnchs; you can either be pro-pane or anti-pane
18:38 bnchs; MinceR: good
18:38 MinceR; not really
18:38 TR News; "Warning to all Ubuntu users. Starting with Ubuntu 22.04, Firefox users will be forced to migrate to the "Snap" version of Firefox. This will be done automatically. Ubuntu doesnt provide a native Firefox anymore. You had probably been warned with Ubuntu 21.10." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-04-05-firefox-ubuntu.gmi
18:38 matey; /me thinks twitter should run on tpain
18:38 matey; click here to hear your tweet autotuned
18:39 bnchs; can you use fear to grill your steaks?
18:39 matey; you can use fear to make people grill them for you
18:39 bnchs; i mean fear as energy
18:39 bnchs; and fuel
18:40 matey; i think youd need some kind of converter
18:40 matey; maybe a fucks capacitor, because it wont work if people give zero fucks
18:41 TR News; The numbers dont lie. Tories do. Its harder to lie and to spin when hospitals and moratoriums report their data. The economy has sunk, people keep dying, and the situation is out of control because more patients enter hospitals than leave them, either dead or alive. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/05/corona-is-up/
18:41 TR Bot; Blog Archive Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year
18:41 matey; "when this baby gets up to 88 fucks per hour, youre going to see some serious shit"
18:42 matey; "doc, at your age even 2 per hour would be impressive"
18:45 matey; instead of plutonium or rubbish, mr. fusion would have to run on chocolate covered strawberries and marvin gaye records
18:46 TR News; Titus: Healthcare in America - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WYLRqq1QymI Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia (this week I learned, not from my own experience, tooth extraction can cost $1000 in US; here it's less than 100 if you shop around)
18:46 TR Bot; Healthcare in America - Invidious
18:46 TR News; Firefox DYING is TERRIBLE for the Web - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eA8O97U1Pbc Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia (the only practical solution now is, gradually abandon the Web)
18:46 TR Bot; Firefox DYING is TERRIBLE for the Web - Invidious
18:47 matey; and of course doc brown would be played by ron jeremy (if he hasnt already)
18:48 matey; "hey youm get your damn hands off her!"
18:48 TR News; Unreal Engine 5 is now available! - Unreal Engine https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available Source: unrealengine
18:48 Alternative link; CloudFlare: unrealengine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available
18:48 TR Bot; Unreal Engine 5 is now available! - Unreal Engine
18:48 bnchs; unreal engine
18:49 bnchs; i wonder what tim swine-e added
18:49 TR News; Not only Gulag is the threat here. 'Smart' 'phones' and the WWW are the culprits. They enable this. https://www.maketecheasier.com/ways-google-tracks-you-and-stop-it/
18:49 TR Bot; 4 Ways Google Tracks You and How to Stop it - Make Tech Easier
18:50 matey; https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/
18:50 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamespot.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/
18:50 TR Bot; Unreal Engine 5 Game So Far - GameSpot
18:51 TR News; Still lacking a plan to abandon proprietary software tools controlled by the NSA and Microsoft criminals https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/04/04/lang-roadmap-2024.html you need to open an account with MICROSOFT to participate in Rust. No tRust.
18:51 TR Bot; Rust Lang Roadmap for 2024 | Inside Rust Blog
18:51 matey; <bnchs> i wonder what tim swine-e added <- wasnt he the original
18:52 matey; oh you mean the latest iteration
18:52 bnchs; what do you mean
18:53 matey; https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5
18:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: unrealengine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5
18:53 TR Bot; Unreal Engine 5 - Unreal Engine
18:53 matey; With Lumen, you no longer have to author lightmap UVs, wait for lightmaps to bake, or place reflection captures; what you see inside the Unreal Editor is what you get on console.
18:53 TR News; A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
18:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/
18:53 TR Bot; new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | GamingOnLinux
18:54 matey; other than that, it seems to be "bigger, longer and un-cut"
18:54 bnchs; tim "i won't port fortnite unless you add rootkits to gnu/linux" swine-e
18:54 TR News; The Steam Deck hit me over the head with feelings of nostalgia | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
18:54 Alternative link; CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/
18:54 TR Bot; Steam Deck hit me over the head with feelings of nostalgia | GamingOnLinux
18:54 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg
18:54 Alternative link; CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg
18:55 matey; cant he just ruin steam dick and leave linus (and britney) alone?
18:55 bnchs; no
18:55 matey; aww, but, but
18:55 bnchs; because he can't port fortnite to steam dick
18:55 matey; hmm
18:55 bnchs; unless valve bends the knee to him
18:55 MinceR; it's cheaper to have others put rootkits in Linux and maintain them
18:55 bnchs; and adds rootkits to the kernel
18:55 MinceR; plus tencent wants them on your PC as well
18:55 bnchs; until then, he will cry like a big baby
18:56 matey; /me hears theo laughing
18:56 matey; presumably linux libre would remove them
18:56 matey; one would hope
18:56 bnchs; matey: yeah thats what tim swine-e hates
18:57 bnchs; he hates that the user can modify his hardware for once
18:57 matey; or theyd have to change it to linux-libre-lite
18:57 TR News; "Chris's thoughts on Linux's NVIDIA conundrum" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/
18:57 Alternative link; CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/
18:57 TR Bot; March Boost Battle | Jupiter Extras 84 | Jupiter Broadcasting
18:57 bnchs; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656
18:57 Alternative link; CloudFlare: ycombinator.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656
18:57 TR Bot; Epic is probably one of the biggest enemies of Linux since they're killing Linux... | Hacker News
18:57 bnchs; someone shares my opinion
18:58 matey; why stop with rootkits? why not put a thing on the side of the computer that makes you pump quarters in to keep using it/
18:58 TR News; Synapse Collapse | LINUX Unplugged 452 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/
18:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/
18:58 TR Bot; Synapse Collapse | LINUX Unplugged 452 | Jupiter Broadcasting
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 72.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.01
18:59 bnchs; epic games and tim swine-e are the enemies of gnu/linux gaming
18:59 bnchs; bribed by microsoft
18:59 bnchs; to never port their games to gnu/linux
19:01 matey; nasty
19:01 bnchs; https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/8/22923163/fortnite-steam-deck-update-epic-tim-sweeney
19:01 TR Bot; Epic wont update Fortnite to run on the Steam Deck - The Verge
19:01 bnchs; "With regard to anti-cheat on the Linux platform supporting custom kernels and the threat model to a game of Fortnite's size, YES THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT!"
19:01 bnchs; "Linux platform supporting custom kernels"
19:01 bnchs; it's obvious what he wants
19:02 bnchs; he wants steam deck to be tivoizated to one kernel
19:02 bnchs; no modifications allowed
19:03 matey; whats gregkh say?
19:03 TR News; Linus Torvalds seems to have gotten himself entrapped inside an organisation (Linux Foundation; Linux only in name) that harms Linux and even harms Git http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/
19:03 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights
19:04 TR News; Gulags (Googles) exploitative relationship with GNU/Linux (the software, its users, developers, creators) needs to be better understood http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/
19:04 TR Bot; [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights
19:04 TR News; A quick tour through the current setup and how tasks are split/spread across different machines http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/
19:04 TR Bot; KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights
19:04 TR News; Leap Micro Beta Available for Testers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163381
19:04 TR Bot; Leap Micro Beta Available for Testers | Tux Machines
19:04 TR News; Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382
19:04 TR Bot; Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines
19:05 TR News; This keynote talk was uploaded a week ago. Marleen is founder of Waag, a social organization and research institute for creative technologies and social innovation." http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/
19:05 TR Bot; Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights
19:06 TR News; Over the past month or so IP Kat wrote just 2 posts about patents; it has said nothing about EPO abuses since several years ago http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/
19:06 TR Bot; [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights
19:06 bnchs; what i would like is to epic games and tim swine-e to go fuck themselves
19:06 matey; i support this
19:06 TR News; Growth at the EPO is pretty much faked; the management crafted (e.g. by legal fudge) paperwork, conditions and unlawful guidelines by which to routinely crush the European Patent Convention (EPC) http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/
19:06 TR Bot; The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights
19:07 matey; preferably in the ear
19:07 bnchs; and also their proprietary engine can go fuck somewhere else
19:08 matey; maybe tim can shove it back where he pulled it out of
19:08 ciphrCat; some dirt on Lemmy if anyone is interested https://termbin.com/596i
19:08 Alternative link; CloudFlare: termbin.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://termbin.com/596i https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://termbin.com/596i
19:08 matey; wheres the source to the clownflare bot ciphrCat
19:08 bnchs; ciphrCat: you come back once a year
19:08 bnchs; wheres the source code to that clownflare bot
19:08 matey; someone wants the clownflare detection routine
19:09 matey; oh hes here
19:09 ciphrCat; well i didn't write that bot but I can get in touch with the author if needed
19:09 bnchs; well sure
19:10 bnchs; i'm willing to modify some of it
19:11 ciphrCat; well, i don't find him.. he finds me. :) I can tell him ppl in techrights want the code next time he reaches out to me
19:12 bnchs; well for now, we're stuck with a proprietary bot
19:12 bnchs; and if he's unwilling, i'll just write from scratch
19:12 matey; interesting http://web.archive.org/web/20220404220426/www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeoverit would be nice to know exactly how it determines clownflare or not
19:12 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ http://web.archive.org/web/20220404220426/www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeoverit )
19:13 ciphrCat; if the bot code has been published, it would be here https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare
19:13 TR Bot; Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
19:13 matey; we looked
19:13 ciphrCat; and either way, certainly the bot would make use of that repo
19:13 matey; we couldnt find the code there
19:14 bnchs; ciphrCat: wait crimeflare is still alive?
19:14 bnchs; i thought it died when the codeberg repo got taken down
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19:15 ciphrCat; perhaps this helps Im about 80% certain the bot would make use of this service https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php
19:15 TR Bot; not resolve host: sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php )
19:15 ciphrCat; bnchs: there was fallout w/codeberg indeed, but the crimeflare project lives on strong.. it bounces around, mirrors, and rebrands.
19:15 bnchs; ciphrCat: doesn't work in tor browser
19:16 ciphrCat; that link works for me in TB
19:16 ciphrCat; oh shit, sorry
19:16 ciphrCat; lemme have a look (they changed the host)
19:16 bnchs; i want the bot to not be centralized on IA only
19:17 bnchs; there's a service called memento time travel
19:17 bnchs; https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/
19:17 TR Bot; Time Travel
19:17 bnchs; searches archives on more than just internet archive
19:17 ciphrCat; https://ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php new link
19:17 TR Bot; not resolve host: ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php )
19:18 ciphrCat; that tool just does the detection task
19:18 bnchs; yeah i know
19:18 *techrights_guest|79 (~50bb519f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
19:18 bnchs; i've also come across a blog
19:18 bnchs; well
19:18 bnchs; a cloudflare detection site
19:18 bnchs; with a blog detailing how it works
19:19 bnchs; http://www.doesitusecloudflare.com/
19:19 TR Bot; Does it use CloudFlare?
19:19 bnchs; fuck wrong site
19:20 bnchs; no it's that
19:21 ciphrCat; btw, if anyone wants the full story on the Codeberg-Crimeflare fiasco, its documented here https://git.sdf.org/humanacollaborator/humanacollabora/src/branch/master/codeberg.md
19:21 TR Bot; humanacollaborator/humanacollabora: Collaboration tools - codeberg.md at master - humanacollabora - SDF GIT Society
19:21 bnchs; https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare
19:21 Alternative link; CloudFlare: selesti.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare
19:21 TR Bot; Checking for Cloudflare
19:21 bnchs; ironic
19:21 bnchs; cloudflare'd site "checking for cloudflare"
19:22 ciphrCat; that site popped up during cloudbleed iirc, and i'm not sure it's useful or well maintained. It wouldn't be as good as the tool i posted
19:22 TR News; LXD 5.0 LTS released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163383
19:22 TR Bot; LXD 5.0 LTS released | Tux Machines
19:23 ciphrCat; but yeah, hypocrisy indeed.. which we see a lot of with CF sites
19:23 TR News; Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 is a Feature-Packed Major Upgrade After a Year Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163384
19:23 TR Bot; Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 is a Feature-Packed Major Upgrade After a Year | Tux Machines
19:23 bnchs; even then
19:23 bnchs; the blog does have some info
19:23 bnchs; like doing a nameserver lookup
19:23 bnchs; and checking for clownflare nameservers, checking for clownflare HTTP headers
19:23 bnchs; checking for clownflare SSL certs
19:24 ciphrCat; you have to decide if nameserver matters to you
19:24 TR News; Maui Shell Alpha released (convergent desktop environment for Linux phones and PCs) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163365#comment-33279
19:24 TR Bot; Maui Shell's First Alpha Release Looks Promising | Tux Machines
19:24 bnchs; does it?
19:25 ciphrCat; some sites use CF for the nameserver but not as a proxy. Theyre less of a problem, but they can spontaneously flip a switch and be using the CF proxy so that is why some ppl avoid even sites that use CF nameservers
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19:25 ciphrCat; so there's the constant threat that they become cloudflared all of the sudden and you get tricked into feeding CF your traffic
19:26 bnchs; so basically check the HTTP headers?
19:26 bnchs; and SSL cert?
19:26 ciphrCat; CF is getting so big that some will only check with a site is currently proxied through CF. Depends on the use case.
19:27 ciphrCat; well the tool tells you.. it'll say NS if it's just a CF nameserved site, and something different if it proxies through cf
19:27 bnchs; even then
19:28 bnchs; the tool is not free software (or is it)
19:28 ciphrCat; you click the test link after doing a query
19:29 ciphrCat; its probably free s/w, but unlikely shared. I suspect its what RMS would call free in the trivial sense
19:29 ciphrCat; s/w need not be distributed to be free
19:29 ciphrCat; in any case, if you have an issue with that you can always check the headers for cf-ray
19:29 bnchs; well ok
19:29 bnchs; at least it is executed in the server-side
19:29 bnchs; and not client-side
19:30 bnchs; anyway thanks
19:30 ciphrCat; np
19:30 TR News; "We want to add signatures to individual files that are part of shipped RPMs. These signatures will use the Linux IMA (Integrity Measurement Architecture) scheme, which means they can be used to enforce runtime policies to ensure execution of only trusted files." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Signed_RPM_Contents
19:31 TR Bot; Changes/Signed RPM Contents - Fedora Project Wiki
19:31 psydruid; so apparently Musk has joined the Twitler board
19:32 TR News; ICBM turns very malicious. "Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on platform" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS see http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
19:32 TR Bot; Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS - Fedora Project Wiki
19:32 TR Bot; UEFI - Techrights
19:32 ciphrCat; A few yrs ago Twitter came under the control of a Trump supporter. I guess Elon couldn't be worse.
19:32 TR News; "In January, we published Anaconda is getting a new suit to let you know that were looking to modernize and improve Anacondas user experience. Before starting the redesign work for the Anaconda installer, the team reviewed user feedback and usability study data that weve gathered over the years." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/anaconda-is-getting-a-new-suit-and-a-wizard/
19:32 TR Bot; Anaconda is getting a new suit and a wizard Fedora Community Blog
19:33 immibis; Elon will probably be about as ineffective as Trump and then it will come out that all of Elon's funding is also from Putin
19:34 TR News; Fedora -- like SELinux -- increasingly shaping up to be NSA-controlled distro. Red Hat and ICBM love imperialism. Pentagon a big "client" (money from taxpayers).
19:35 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163385
19:35 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:36 ciphrCat; well i don't know where Elon stands on politics. He hangs out with rt. wing extremists like Peter Thiel but he seems relatively less political, just money focused
19:37 TR News; https://www.uefa.com/ decided to start delivering EMPTY pages, even to some Web browsers with JS enabled. The WWW needs to be abandoned at this point. It became another Adobe Flash or Gulag Trash.
19:37 TR Bot; official website for European football | UEFA.com
19:37 Alternative link; CloudFlare: uefa.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.uefa.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.uefa.com/
19:41 TR News; You should just stop Spotify, period. It's DRM. https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings
19:41 Alternative link; CloudFlare: mashable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings
19:41 TR Bot; How to stop Spotify from sharing your data, and why you should
19:44 TR News; Clownflare is NOT DDOS protection, it IS the DDOS.
19:44 immibis; ciphrCat: money-focused is manipulable. Just look at Trump.
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19:46 TR News; Installation and Review of Q4OS Linux [Lightweight Distro] https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux
19:46 Alternative link; CloudFlare: tecmint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/
19:46 TR Bot; Installation and Review of Q4OS Linux [Lightweight Distro]
19:47 TR News; How to document war crimes in the digital age https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/
19:47 Alternative link; CloudFlare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/
19:47 TR Bot; How to document war crimes in the digital age - Coda Story
19:50 TR News; This stuff never belonged on the Internet in the first place https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-22-095-01
19:50 TR Bot; LifePoint Informatics Patient Portal | CISA
19:51 TR News; "A varied selection of Discoveries including Telegraf, writing tools, a book about networking, and fixing a Mac. Plus your feedback about Matrix bridges, virtualisation, Pocket alternatives, the BBC, game development, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-171/
19:51 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 171 Late Night Linux
19:52 TR News; "Hello and welcome to Episode #462 of Linux in the Ham Shack" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/04/lhs-episode-462-hamfest-and-lhs-deep-dive-2/
19:52 TR Bot; LHS Episode #462: Hamfest and LHS Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack
19:53 TR News; GNU/Linux dominant, as usual https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html
19:53 Alternative link; CloudFlare: netcraft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html
19:53 TR Bot; Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in March 2022 | Netcraft News
19:55 TR News; The company whose founder flew with Russia to space took 1.5 months to post this https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine
19:55 Alternative link; CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine
19:55 TR Bot; with Ukraine | Ubuntu
19:57 TR News; security things in Linux v5.10 https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2022/04/04/security-things-in-linux-v5-10/ Source: outflux
19:57 TR Bot; security things in Linux v5.10 codeblog
20:00 TR News; Following someone (or subscribing, or "friending" them) means adding their RSS feed/s. Social control media is a mirage. You subscribe to nothing but a large, selfish company, which MIGHT relay updates to you. When it wants to. Maybe never. It bans, too.
20:01 TR News; 272: Behind The Scenes of Destination Linux - Destination Linux https://destinationlinux.org/episode-272/ Source: destinationlinux
20:01 TR Bot; 272: Behind The Scenes of Destination Linux - Destination Linux
20:01 ciphrCat; techrights has no articles on Lemmy
20:10 schestowitz-TR; url?
20:12 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032845
20:12 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/duXvROc.png created on 2022-03-28 18:37:53.888826
20:13 TR News; iprogrammer posting webspam for LF? Did LF pay for this spam like in fossforce? https://www.i-programmer.info/news/150-training-a-education/15330-applications-open-for-lift-scholarships.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/
20:13 TR Bot; Applications Open For LiFT Scholarships
20:13 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights
20:18 bnchs; ciphrCat: lol on lemmy using rust
20:18 bnchs; i would stay 1000 ft away from that
20:20 ciphrCat; there are lots of reasons to stay the hell away from Lemmy, starting with automatic censorship of a hard-coded regular expression of profanity, in English, where the banned tokens match normal words in other languages
20:20 bnchs; "starting with automatic censorship of a hard-coded regular expression of profanity, in English, where the banned tokens match normal words in other languages"
20:20 bnchs; link the source code to this
20:21 bnchs; i mean where in the source code does this do
20:21 ciphrCat; i'd really have to dig but i know it's in the mastodon fedi
20:22 TR News; Best remote desktop for Linux in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163386
20:22 TR Bot; Best remote desktop for Linux in 2022 | Tux Machines
20:22 TR News; mjg59 | Bearer tokens are just awful https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html
20:22 Alternative link; CloudFlare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html
20:22 TR Bot; mjg59 | Bearer tokens are just awful
20:23 TR News; "A new release 0.2.17 of RInside arrived on CRAN and in Debian today. This is the first release in two years since the 0.2.16 release." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/01#rinside_0.2.17
20:23 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
20:24 TR News; "Armadillo is a powerful and expressive C++ template library for linear algebra aiming towards a good balance between speed and ease of use with a syntax deliberately close to a Matlab." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/04#rcpparmadillo_0.11.0.0.0
20:24 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
20:27 TR News; "A new version 0.0.8 of RcppSpdlog is now on CRAN. RcppSpdlog bundles spdlog, a wonderful header-only C++ logging library with all the bells and whistles you would want that was written by Gabi Melman, and also includes fmt by Victor Zverovich." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/04#rcppspdlog_0.0.8
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20:29 TR News; "My copy is the UK first pressing which includes the track "Qu'ran" which was removed from later editions (and re-instated again later on)." https://jmtd.net/log/My_Life_In_The_Bush_Of_Ghosts/
20:29 TR Bot; jmtd log My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts
20:29 ciphrCat; shit bnchs left before i could answer
20:30 TR News; Vulkan 1.3.211 available https://vulkan.org/
20:30 Alternative link; CloudFlare: vulkan.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vulkan.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://vulkan.org/
20:30 TR Bot; Home | Vulkan | Cross platform 3D Graphics
20:30 schestowitz-TR; ciphrCat: no, his connection is not stable
20:30 ciphrCat; the code used to be here but now it's a 404 (probably just a project renaming) https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs#L259
20:30 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs )
20:30 schestowitz-TR; shithub hosting is a bad sign
20:31 ciphrCat; yup
20:31 schestowitz-TR; it does not make you a bad person but a less trustworthy one
20:32 TR News; deepin 20.5 overview | Beautiful and Wonderful - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3HqR0xQi2_s Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
20:32 TR Bot; deepin 20.5 overview | Beautiful and Wonderful - Invidious
20:33 TR News; "Man. City have enjoyed the lion's share of possession so far, with 72% of the ball in the opening 30 minutes" (OK, but goals are needed)
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20:36 bnchs; ciphrCat: just answer, i'll use scrollback
20:36 bnchs; anyway saw your message
20:37 bnchs; <ciphrCat> the code used to be here but now it's a 404 (probably just a project renaming) https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs#L259
20:39 ciphrCat; https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/src/lib.rs if that's the same file, then the regex has moved
20:39 TR Bot; at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub
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20:40 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163387
20:40 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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20:41 bnchs; https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/crates/utils/src/utils.rs
20:42 TR Bot; at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub
20:42 bnchs; mention of slur_regex
20:42 DaemonFC; The version of Vulkan shipped in Debian 11 seems to be good enough for all of the games this laptop is capable of running.
20:42 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032760
20:42 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://preview.redd.it/dwochbsar4381.jpg?auto=webp&s=7b59396456d3cc3a99f9c70c9b5c7a3b2fc3cc69 created on 2022-03-27 22:52:27.868169
20:42 bnchs; ciphrCat: slur removal functions in https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/c7f533709918cc559254a7f2ccd0263335d17c69/crates/utils/src/utils.rs
20:42 TR Bot; at c7f533709918cc559254a7f2ccd0263335d17c69 LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub
20:42 bnchs; takes a string and a regex as parameters
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20:43 TR News; "We plan to release Tails 5.0 on May 3 or May 31. It will be the first version of Tails based on Debian 11 (Bullseye). It brings new versions of most of the software included in Tails and some important usability improvements." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379#comment-33280
20:43 TR Bot; Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
20:44 bnchs; https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/crates/utils/src/test.rs
20:44 TR Bot; at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub
20:44 bnchs; Slur removal tests
20:44 TR News; Q4OS 4.8 Gemini, stable Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163389
20:44 TR Bot; Q4OS 4.8 Gemini, stable | Tux Machines
20:44 bnchs; "faggot test kike tranny cocksucker retardeds. Capitalized Niggerz. This is a bunch of other safe text."
20:44 bnchs; expected: "*removed* test *removed* *removed* *removed* *removed*. Capitalized *removed*. This is a bunch of other safe text."
20:46 schestowitz-TR; better to test things in another channel tbh
20:46 bnchs; no
20:46 schestowitz-TR; we have channels for tests
20:46 bnchs; i'm simply citing the slur removal shit that lemmy has
20:46 bnchs; so yeah i'm sorry for the slurs but it's what the file has
20:47 bnchs; the default slur_regex: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/b18ea3e0cc620c3f97f9804c09b92f193809b846/config/config.hjson
20:48 TR News; Peace through Pegasus: Jordanian Human Rights Defenders and Journalists [cr]acked with Pegasus Spyware - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/peace-through-pegasus-jordanian-human-rights-defenders-and-journalists-hacked-with-pegasus-spyware/ Source: citizenlab
20:48 TR Bot; Peace through Pegasus: Jordanian Human Rights Defenders and Journalists Hacked with Pegasus Spyware - The Citizen Lab
20:49 TR News; Ukraines Internet System Is A Hidden Weapon In The War (VIDEO) https://www.newsy.com/stories/ukraine-s-internet-system-is-a-hidden-weapon-in-the-war/ Source: newsy
20:49 TR Bot; Ukraine's Internet System Is A Hidden Weapon In The War (VIDEO)
20:49 bnchs; so basically lemmy by defaul
20:49 bnchs; has a slur filter
20:49 bnchs; and the only way to disable it is to empty the slur_regex
20:50 ciphrCat; bnchs: i think it improved since they constantly get heat over the slur filter. I recall a time when I composed a long msg that matched and the UI blocked me from even submitting the post. It didn't say what word it had an issue with. I had to go through a huge effort to track down the problem and a substring of a harmless word match that shitty regex
20:50 XRevan86; MinceR: Um and?
20:50 XRevan86; MinceR: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/retard#French
20:50 TR Bot; retard - Wiktionary
20:51 bnchs; retard is late in french
20:51 MinceR; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/retard#English
20:51 TR Bot; retard - Wiktionary
20:51 bnchs; which i know
20:51 TR News; Ursula von der Leyen works for the US or the USA Empire(R) https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/ see http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/
20:51 Alternative link; CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/
20:51 TR Bot; The Wests plan to keep global data flows alive POLITICO
20:51 bnchs; besides lemmy shouldn't even have a slur filter
20:51 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights
20:51 bnchs; reddi didn't have a slur filter
20:51 XRevan86; MinceR: But there's text in French afterwards.
20:51 MinceR; where?
20:52 MinceR; i see spanish, italian and portuguese
20:52 TR News; Bezos propaganda wars https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/
20:52 Alternative link; CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/
20:52 MinceR; and something that looks like it was meant to be english
20:52 TR Bot; How Ukraines Mykhailo Fedorov is fighting a digital war - The Washington Post
20:52 bnchs; ciphrCat, lemmy shouldn't even have a word filter
20:52 bnchs; it's a step below reddit
20:52 bnchs; even reddit didn't have a word filter
20:53 bnchs; btw it flags mudslime
20:53 TR News; Distracting from the fact so much of the OSI's resources go to Microsoft, which attacks the mission? https://opensource.org/blog/google-ospo-why-we-support-the-osi
20:53 TR Bot; Google OSPO: Why we support the OSI | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source...
20:53 XRevan86; MinceR: I saw "" and immediately assumed French. No matter, it's a Romance word.
20:53 MinceR; english is partially romance too
20:54 XRevan86; MinceR: Hence why the first meaning listed on Wiktionary for English is "delay".
20:55 TR News; They're killing the Internet https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/
20:55 Alternative link; CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/
20:55 TR Bot; Ukraine minister pleads to expand digital blockade on Russia POLITICO
20:55 ciphrCat; bnchs: that slur filter has changed a lot. Only six words now. Previously it was a huge thing, and it didn't check word boundaries. So a word like kike (IIRC) would be the substring for many harmless words and it would trigger.
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20:56 bnchs; yeah
20:56 bnchs; but still
20:56 XRevan86; mental retardation just means delayed mental development
20:56 bnchs; lemmy shouldn't have a slur filter
20:56 ciphrCat; and b/c of the slur filter, you couldn't even quote someone else who used slurs
20:56 MinceR; or, in the case of many humans, no mental development
20:56 bnchs; it's quite retarded
20:56 bnchs; *BEEEEEEEEEEEP*
20:56 XRevan86; MinceR: That's the absolute literal meaning.
20:56 bnchs; *FORBIDDEN SLUR, CENSORING*
20:56 TR News; When it comes to spy cities, Russia is way behind. But now we have a new whipping boy. https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/
20:56 Alternative link; CloudFlare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/
20:56 TR Bot; Authoritarians love smart cities. Russia is no exception - Coda Story
20:56 bnchs; it's quite *removed*
20:56 TR News; Unreal Engine 5 and Steam Deck Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163390
20:56 TR Bot; Unreal Engine 5 and Steam Deck | Tux Machines
20:57 bnchs; i'm gonna *removed* your mom you *removed* *removed*
20:57 DaemonFC; Walmart's website has said "out of eggs" for a while, which is how they stop people from buying things when there's a shortage.
20:57 DaemonFC; Today they give me a pack of 18 extra large eggs that I didn't even order, plus some free orange juice.
20:57 DaemonFC; :/
20:57 ciphrCat; bnchs: Lenny is the reason for the Lemmy slur filter. Its a fork that removes the slur filter
20:57 bnchs; good for lenny
20:57 ciphrCat; err, i mean the lemmy slur filter is the reason for lenny
20:58 TR News; "The legal action was submitted jointly by the International Federation of Human Rights (FIDH), the Human Rights League (LDH), and Salah Hammouri." https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/
20:58 Alternative link; CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/
↺ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/
20:58 TR Bot; Facing the consequences: Access Now welcomes legal action against NSO Group - Access Now
20:58 bnchs; even then
20:58 bnchs; good for lenny
20:58 bnchs; lenny should be a good fork
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 262.36
20:59 bnchs; it's fucking dumb
20:59 bnchs; that lemmy once hardcoded the slur regex
20:59 bnchs; they should just go back to twitter and be done with it
21:01 TR News; So many of the articles in Phoronix are about a company with so little market share compared to the rest. But it pays Phoronix. http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
21:01 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
21:01 bnchs; ciphrCat: lemmy shouldn't be a thing if it's creators are such a SJW
21:01 immibis; https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png
21:01 Alternative link; CloudFlare: discordapp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png
21:02 bnchs; they should just go back to twitter
21:04 DaemonFC; I wonder how you would go about installing Wine on Fedora Silverblue.
21:04 DaemonFC; I think maybe install it as an RPM into the OSTree and then reboot?
21:04 TR News; I'm very disappointed with FOSS Force. Yearx ago FOSS Force correctly explains that the Linux Foundation was bad. Months ago it started running paid ads for Linux Foundation and now it runs spammy puff pieces for Linux Foundation. FOSS Force sold out. It knew it sold out.
21:04 DaemonFC; Silverblue recommends Flatpaks, but I wonder how well that's going to work for Wine. I know Lutris is developing a Flatpak version.
21:05 DaemonFC; Technically you could install each of your Windows applications into Lutris as a video game and them just run them that way.
21:05 TR News; Linux Foundation acts as a corruption funnel for anti-Linux companies. They use Linux Foundation as a vessel to pass bribes and suppress critics.
21:06 DaemonFC; I may use my older laptop to try out Fedora 36 Silverblue when it's out and see what I think of it.
21:06 DaemonFC; Then again, one wonders how long that will stay working. Fedora has turned into the Windows 11 of Linux recently. "If it's more than 2 years old, just throw the whole computer in the trash." Like Apple.
21:07 TR News; Meanwhile, Jack Wallen did a WSL puff piece (WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux) and now posts from ZDNet, which derives money from Microsoft and LF to ATTACK GNU/Linux
21:08 TR News; Microsoft is just bribing to attack Linux. Not just bribing OEMs to NOT offer GNU/Linux but bribing sites and writers to defect. Microsoft is crime.
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21:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Fedora Leader criticized Nvidia. Perhaps it's time for ICBM Rat Crap to find New Fedora Leader and delete Fedora Leader's Tweet. "Offending Nvidia"
21:10 TR News; Microsoft: we need not compete. We need only BRIBE the competitors to STOP competing.
21:10 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, I showed you that
21:11 schestowitz-TR; code has feelings too
21:11 schestowitz-TR; binaries are sensitive
21:11 DaemonFC; Nvidia's proprietary driver was pretty lousy even in X.org's heyday.
21:11 schestowitz-TR; stop offending binary blogs
21:11 schestowitz-TR; behead all those who insult NVIDIA!!
21:12 DaemonFC; And it was developed to work with X11, and in fact, Nvidia was the one petitioning for distributions to stick to X11 just over them.
21:12 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22032749
21:12 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8w1714uit6p81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 19:56:32.797110
21:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Their website description starts out "Nvidia, inventor of the GPU.". Gee, I didn't know they went back in time to the 1980s and bought Commodore.
21:15 DaemonFC; So that's what they've been doing with the Buttcoin money. Linking Nvidia cards until they have the processing power of the T-800's CPU chip and can manipulate the time vortex.
21:17 TR News; Wow. LF went out of its way again to hide its use of proprietary software for "Open Source" report
21:18 DaemonFC; MinceR, The Eleventh Doctor/Skynet really screwed up by sending the original T-800 in the reboot timeline.
21:19 MinceR; :)
21:19 DaemonFC; Why would it do that if it already had a T-1000 there?
21:19 DaemonFC; That movie made no sense.
21:20 DaemonFC; MinceR, I watched Terminator Genisys with John, and he said "The T-1000 is Asian this time?"" I said, "Yeah, it gets better gas mileage, but if it's Korean you need to watch out for engine explosions and the occasional brake line fire.".
21:20 MinceR; lol
21:21 MinceR; and if it's chinese, you'd better just stay away from any chance of an impact
21:23 DaemonFC; MinceR, It made more sense for the T-1000 to disguise itself as an Asian man if you think about it.
21:24 DaemonFC; The liquid metal's defect was that it was not as strong as the T-800 endoskeleton. The Robert Patrick form could fight the T-800 but was noticeably easier to disable.
21:25 DaemonFC; I think it literally spread itself too thin. By taking a seemingly smaller form, but with the same mass, Skynet probably corrected this problem.
21:25 DaemonFC; The T-1000 in Genisys seemed to recover from bullet wounds and being deformed faster.
21:26 DaemonFC; It's an example of looks being deceiving.
21:29 DaemonFC; To dial up the cohesion factor of the liquid metal fixed the problem of taking too long to return to service after sustaining damage, but would have looked odd. How do you fix it? Pick a human form that seems smaller and less imposing.
21:30 DaemonFC; Better camouflage at the same time.
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21:31 DaemonFC; MinceR, Notice how earlier on, Skynet had a problem of making killing machines that could actually trick people?
21:32 AdmFubar1; the first sentence in the second paragraph is priceless: https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats
21:32 Alternative link; CloudFlare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats
21:32 TR Bot; Windows Mixed Reality clings to relevancy in March 2022 Steam survey stats | Windows Central
21:32 DaemonFC; First it made obvious killing machines that people screamed and ran away from. Then it made ones that could get closer before you realized they were fake, and that might work. Then it made physically imposing models that looked human, but all of the templates were body builders so not quite as believable as just a plain looking human. Those came last.
21:32 DaemonFC; Those were the most sophisticated.
21:34 DaemonFC; I think the reason the newer movies are failing is they copy what the first two did, while requiring the viewer to suspend their belief way too much.
21:35 DaemonFC; Good Sci-Fi only makes the viewer suspend their belief a little bit, sparingly, to grease the plot a little bit.
21:35 DaemonFC; There's not much of that anymore.
21:38 DaemonFC; Aliens works because nothing happens in the movie that would be "impossible" to survive if you accept the notion that there's some space marines and some really nasty xenomorphs up against each other. One reason Terminator: Salvation doesn't work is because the T-800 at the end beat John Connor's head in to the point that any real human would have suffered a broken neck, skull fragmentation, and brain damage to the point of being dead 50 times
21:38 DaemonFC; over, and then he just keeps fighting it. And it doesn't manage to kill him until it pierces his heart?
21:38 bnchs; bethesda moved to steam
21:38 bnchs; epic games shills got angry like a monkey
21:38 DaemonFC; Bethesda was on Steam before Microshit bought them.
21:38 DaemonFC; Now they recompile the game and push updates that they know Wine won't work with.
21:39 bnchs; "nooooo, you gotta have to put your gaymes in epic gaymes store"
21:39 bnchs; "the store that hates gnu/linux"
21:39 DaemonFC; They pushed one for Fallout 4 and broke it under Wine for a couple of years.
21:39 DaemonFC; And it's only starting to work right again.
21:39 immibis; then fix wine. it's open soucre
21:40 DaemonFC; That's what's happened.
21:40 bnchs; immibis: yes
21:40 bnchs; reverse engineer whatever shitty internal windows API they used
21:40 DaemonFC; It turned out that those APIs that were missing from Wine were missing for good reason, you know.
21:40 DaemonFC; Nothing important used them.
21:40 bnchs; shitty (obscure) internal windows API they used
21:40 DaemonFC; Now that Microsoft is breaking things by making them depend on those APIs, they're being added to Wine.
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21:41 psydroid2; better to "fix" Windows by putting it out of its misery
21:42 DaemonFC; For starters, most video games that played music did not do that with the XAudio2 API.
21:42 DaemonFC; There was really no reason to. They could just bundle some MP3s and use DirectShow and it all worked.
21:42 AdmFubar1; more googly/youtube shenanigans https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/
21:42 Alternative link; CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/
21:42 TR Bot; Drops Antitrust Claims From YouTube Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
21:43 bnchs; epic games is like microsoft
21:43 bnchs; they make games exclusive
21:43 psydroid2; we have the upper hand
21:43 bnchs; they BRIBE developers to make their games exclusive to their store
21:43 kingoffrance; that sounds like sony, nintendo, sega, ...
21:43 kingoffrance; pretty sure thats gone on forever
21:43 bnchs; kingoffrance: yeah but
21:44 bnchs; epic games has been bribing hard
21:44 kingoffrance; im not defending it :)
21:44 psydroid2; Windeads are scared of GNU/Linux running on non-Intel/AMD hardware
21:44 psydroid2; cheap TV boxes running GNU/Linux should be(come) a thing
21:44 bnchs; i don't like steam
21:45 bnchs; but at least they're doing a good job trying to make their games work on GNU/Linux
21:45 psydroid2; I don't have Steam
21:45 bnchs; unlike tim swine-e
21:45 TR News; Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/
21:45 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights
21:45 psydroid2; but I like seeing what they do for taking market share away from Windows
21:46 bnchs; yeah
21:46 bnchs; but tim swine-e is on microsoft's team
21:47 DaemonFC; https://www.gamesradar.com/cyberpunk-2077-patch-notes/
21:47 TR Bot; 2077 patch 1.52 fixes a laundry list of bugs | GamesRadar+
21:47 psydroid2; which means tim's swine-e's time is up
21:47 bnchs; https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1489568243056578562
21:47 TR Bot; They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. https://t.co/CuRtHdTKJY
21:47 TR Bot; Report: Microsoft HoloLens 3 is dead as its mixed-reality vision implodes | PCWorld
21:47 DaemonFC; Automatic Love - Walking into a wall in the elevator in Megabuilding H8 will no longer cause instant death.
21:47 DaemonFC; Automatic Death
21:47 bnchs; "They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. " - Tim swine-e to microsoft hololens
21:47 bnchs; "open platform" "open platform"
21:47 bnchs; he's indeed a broken record
21:48 bnchs; nothing but a microsoft shill
21:48 psydroid2; Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Nvidia, Apple, Google and other companies all suffer from megalomania, thinking that they have it all figured out
21:48 psydroid2; but that's just a faade
21:48 bnchs; so us military helps microsoft with taxes
21:48 bnchs; on a dead product
21:48 psydroid2; they can never be sure that they won't get wiped out by some disruptive new technology
21:49 bnchs; and tim swine-e supports it
21:49 psydroid2; possibly not from the US
21:49 psydroid2; I think it's foolish to spend so much on hardware and software that doesn't have any added value
21:50 psydroid2; we already have all the hardware we need for most purposes
21:51 immibis; psydroid2: no company can. Capitalism is dumb like that.
21:51 immibis; people should not be punished for new technology being invented.
21:51 immibis; that just encourages the suppression of new technology.
21:51 bnchs; tim swine-e puts other companies like google and apple for being "closed platform" blah blah blah, but openly shills microsoft
21:51 bnchs; not just a little
21:51 bnchs; just outright SHILLING
21:52 psydroid2; I ignore that guy
21:52 bnchs; the problem is that many games are at his store
21:52 bnchs; and they accomplished it with.... you know
21:53 kingoffrance; well, i think thats too harsh. probably some dollaring, pesoing, etc.
21:53 TR News; Cython is 20! | Stefans Welt http://blog.behnel.de/posts/cython-is-20/ Source: behnel
21:53 TR Bot; Cython is 20! | Stefans Welt
21:54 psydroid2; microsoft is scared of losing a whole generation of computer users
21:54 psydroid2; but I think it's already too late
21:54 TR News; radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15648?commit_id=7c974119a6e555fa9edd237d69658ecb7cee1942 Source: gitlab
21:54 TR Bot; radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
21:54 psydroid2; fortunately
21:55 bnchs; "It shouldt be like this. Windows users are free to install software from sources of their choosing, and Microsoft doesnt interfere. Apple and Google are alone in making their store monopolies tools of national censorship and protectionism."
21:55 kingoffrance; lol
21:55 bnchs; https://nitter.net/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1492928834395676674#m
21:55 TR Bot; Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "Microsoft is unique among major tech companies in making a detailed, substantial statement of platform principles. Theres a saying: its only a principle if it costs you. And, Xbox dodge aside, this is a promise to compete fairly with much at stake. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lists-new-open-app-store-principles-microsoft-store-and-its-other-marketplaces" | nitter
21:56 bnchs; https://nitter.net/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1492931388013789191#m
21:56 TR Bot; Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "Remember Google put out a fake principles statement with some platitudes about open platforms and then walked it all back, saying theyre entitled to undermine competing stores technically and contractually, and impose a payment monopoly. https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/how-sustain-safe-thriving-app-and-game-ecosystem/" | nitter
21:56 kingoffrance; global corporation feigns nationalism, points at other global corporation and says they are traitors to the homeland
21:56 bnchs; double standards are common in tim swine-e's brain
21:56 bnchs; microsoft good but google bad
21:56 kingoffrance; india good
21:56 kingoffrance; where else is ms lol
21:57 psydroid2;
21:57 XRevan86; ?
21:57 psydroid2;
21:58 TR News; CVSS v3 9.8 (!!!!!!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-21-187-01
21:58 TR Bot; Philips Vue PACS (Update B) | CISA
21:59 XRevan86; psydroid2: , :)
21:59 psydroid2; :D
22:00 bnchs; i don't support apple nor epic games
22:00 bnchs; it's good that apple is getting punished for their walled garden
22:00 bnchs; but at the same time, epic games is in bed with microsoft
22:00 kingoffrance; in this case ms is pushing "globalism" and saying the others are "nationalists" "protectionists" but that is besides the point, since they are acting as if they are above any "nation" and hence creating a hypothetical "globalville" country
22:00 psydroid2; the "nice" thing about apple is that their walled garden is meaningless
22:01 kingoffrance; it really works either way: point as "nationalists" as "protectionism" or point at "globalists" as "protectionism"
22:01 psydroid2; it's not as if you develop software for macOS but not for GNU/Linux
22:01 psydroid2; anyone who does that is foolish
22:01 schestowitz-TR; swine-e higging ballmer in the mud
22:01 schestowitz-TR; *hugging
22:01 TR News; It would be nice to think that the Linux Foundation quit using proprietary software for its reports on "Open Source"; but if that happened, it would not hide the metadata (as shown above) http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/
22:01 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights
22:01 psydroid2; and even if there is exclusive software for macOS, you can just ignore it
22:01 psydroid2; because it's not going to be embedded in any organisation
22:02 psydroid2; it hasn't happened in 50 years
22:02 psydroid2; so why should it happen now
22:02 *psydroid2 doesn't know when exactly Apple was founded
22:02 TR News; The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/cult-amiga-sgi-workstations-matter/ Source: PeterCzanik
22:02 TR Bot; The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
22:02 kingoffrance; somewhere i saw a coc terms of service that you cannot discriminate against "caste" LOL
22:03 schestowitz-TR; lol
22:03 schestowitz-TR; CoC's minds will be blown, knowing the multitude of cultural baggages
22:03 schestowitz-TR; does CoC say something about serving kosher and haram foods?
22:03 schestowitz-TR; not YET?
22:04 kingoffrance; well its like lee you cannot discriminate against kings lol
22:04 schestowitz-TR; does it impose quotas for people with lack of limbs?
22:04 schestowitz-TR; they don't try to solve any technical issues
22:04 schestowitz-TR; just more pretexts for removing community members
22:04 schestowitz-TR; based on some shitpost or tweet from 15 years ago
22:05 schestowitz-TR; (they've repeatedly done this to Torvalds and RMS)
22:05 schestowitz-TR; btw, bkuhn went out of his way to delete all his dents
22:06 schestowitz-TR; months ago Zemlin deleted ALL his tweets
22:06 schestowitz-TR; those CoC lovers know it can be weaponised against them, too
22:06 schestowitz-TR; they go about evaporating what they wrote
22:06 schestowitz-TR; while digging dirt in their 'enemies'
22:06 DaemonFC; "<bnchs> "They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. " - Tim swine-e to microsoft hololens"
22:06 schestowitz-TR; this is so Soviet Stalin
22:07 schestowitz-TR; and they tell us it's about manners and decency
22:07 schestowitz-TR; whey they stalk remarks out of context
22:07 schestowitz-TR; like Torvalds responding to provocation
22:07 DaemonFC; Easier to harass people who make products that sell and turn your apps into a tapeworm infestation, like what Microsoft did to Samsung.
22:07 bnchs; DaemonFC: Tim swine-e reacting to microsoft hololens DYING
22:07 bnchs; He was citing an article that was saying that hololens was dying
22:07 schestowitz-TR; but biden paid 22 BILLION to Microsoft for it
22:07 schestowitz-TR; no?
22:08 schestowitz-TR; so it's a scam
22:08 schestowitz-TR; also, Microsoft fired all that staff
22:08 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is now a US espionage service
22:08 schestowitz-TR; funded by taxpayers
22:08 schestowitz-TR; against their will
22:08 DaemonFC; "XAudio2 abstracts audio generation by separating sound data from "voice", allowing each voice to be filtered by programmable digital signal processing and effects processing functions. Voices can be "submixed" together into a single stream. "
22:08 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
22:08 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
22:08 DaemonFC; I don't even know what this means. I'm sure there's a patent.
22:08 bnchs; <techrights-news> The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik
22:08 bnchs; man i'm in love with amiga and SGI computers
22:09 TR News; Microsoft is not a company. Microsoft is organised crime. But it presents itself as a company. http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
22:09 DaemonFC; It seems Microsoft is baiting Wine and Vulkan into depending on their patents, and then with the ultimate plan of suing.
22:09 schestowitz-TR; either suing or blackmailing
22:09 psydroid2; bnchs, are you also in love with their prices?
22:09 schestowitz-TR; do X, or we sue
22:09 schestowitz-TR; ask Samsung
22:09 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft did sue them
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22:10 bnchs; psydroid2, sheesh no
22:10 schestowitz-TR; then Samsung before carrier of Microsoft viruses
22:10 psydroid2; it makes me wonder what this guy is trying to sell exactly
22:11 TR News; European Parliament recognises Free Software as key for fair HEY HI https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202204.en.html
22:11 TR Bot; AI in EU +++ Open letter to Bundestag +++ Plasma Mobile +++ Meshnet - FSFE
22:11 kingoffrance; well its pretty funny. the intelligence services got to google, apple, you name it, but they left ms alone lol
22:11 DaemonFC; If you want Android without the parasites (Microsoft and Carrier Junk) you pretty much have to buy a phone from Google now.
22:12 kingoffrance; people have suggsted the lack of prosecution in the 90s was a "deal" made lol
22:12 schestowitz-TR; yeah
22:12 kingoffrance; i mean, ms is older if nothing else, its just amazing spin of history
22:13 DaemonFC; Apple turns over detailed files on their users apparently without even verifying that the person making the request is a police officer. Much less has a warrant. See; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
22:13 schestowitz-TR; some report said microsoft had lost money in 1998
22:13 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
22:13 TR Bot; Are Now Forging Emergency Data Requests To Talk Tech Companies Out Of User Data | Techdirt
22:13 schestowitz-TR; and we also know mass bribery keeps them funded
22:13 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I linked to it earlier
22:13 DaemonFC; So "Apple Privacy". Your ex who might be stalking you to murder you, can just go to them and say he's a cop.
22:13 kingoffrance; time is not on their side. time is on the side of they got to ms first, and then the internet companies came later
22:13 DaemonFC; They turn over everything.
22:13 schestowitz-TR; quests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/[12:35] <techrights-news> Bad laws beget bad faith https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
22:13 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/
22:14 schestowitz-TR; the wall street bubble need to burst already
22:14 schestowitz-TR; it's growing
22:14 schestowitz-TR; the bubble
22:14 schestowitz-TR; the explosion will be bigger
22:14 bnchs; <schestowitz-TR> and we also know mass bribery keeps them funded
22:14 bnchs; so you mean
22:14 schestowitz-TR; now the US progresses in another Cold War
22:14 bnchs; if people became less corruptible
22:14 schestowitz-TR; as the economy rots domestically
22:15 bnchs; then microsoft would go out of
22:15 bnchs; business????
22:15 schestowitz-TR; they can blame "the war"
22:15 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: it's not even a business anymore
22:15 DaemonFC; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/
22:15 Alternative link; CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/
22:15 TR Bot; Has Already Wasted Over $700k Of Taxpayer Funds Defending Its Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt
22:15 schestowitz-TR; they're bailed out by US taxpayers
22:15 DaemonFC; " Floridas bill was tossed out as unconstitutional, fairly easily. While an appeal on that ruling will be heard soon, all this is doing is racking up Floridas expensive legal bills."
22:15 schestowitz-TR; who already are tens of trillions in debt
22:15 schestowitz-TR; so they're like a scam
22:16 bnchs; so they managed to get bailed out
22:16 DaemonFC; Indiana didn't care how much money it spent defending the gay marriage ban law. Mike Pence forked over $7 million state taxpayer dollars to both the state's attorneys and to the people who sued (after the state lost).
22:16 bnchs; by showing them a vaporware product
22:17 DaemonFC; It's all political posturing. Voters reward them for losing $7 million because "they tried" to attack gays and it just didn't work out.
22:18 bnchs; i'm gonna kick bill gates' ass so hard, he won't be able to sit anymore
22:18 bnchs; this is not covid-19 misinformation
22:18 DaemonFC; If they hadn't tried to defend the ban and just gave the money back to the taxpayers, they all would have gotten at least $10 added on to their "surplus refund" that year. Instead, it all went to some lawyers who didn't even care who won the court case.
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22:19 DaemonFC; The worst part about living under a state is that it takes your money and uses it in ways you do not agree with.
22:19 DaemonFC; For example, Illinois taxes everyone who lives here and uses the money to kill babies with.
22:19 DaemonFC; Do you want to be a murderer? No? Too bad. You have to fund it anyway. -The State
22:20 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163391
22:20 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:20 bnchs; i'm pretty sure if they went bankrupt in 1998
22:20 bnchs; then, there wouldn't be so much software depending on windows
22:20 DaemonFC; The feds at least bother to joke about spending your tax money wisely.
22:21 DaemonFC; They don't mention that under "flood insurance" they pay oligarchs to stuff their money in shoreline condos in Miami that will be destroyed in hurricanes or by rising sea levels.
22:22 DaemonFC; They don't mention that "crop insurance" pays corporations to deliberately plant things on land that floods frequently just so they can claim a loss and get your money.
22:23 TR News; A new tool unsnap helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163392
22:23 TR Bot; A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | Tux Machines
22:24 schestowitz; https://www.thelandcle.org/stories/land-conservancy-wants-to-up-vacant-lots-littering-the-city
22:24 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.thelandcle.org/stories/land-conservancy-wants-to-up-vacant-lots-littering-the-city )
22:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The bubble is the government.
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22:27 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23010608/amazon-worker-social-app-banned-words-union-living-wage
↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23010608/amazon-worker-social-app-banned-words-union-living-wage
22:27 TR Bot; These are the words Amazons planned employee chat app reportedly wont let you say - The Verge
22:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz, They learn from China I guess.
22:27 DaemonFC; "With the filter in place, the app would block or flag messages that include words like union, slave labor, grievance, living wage, and more. Oh yeah, it would filter out restroom, too (probably to prevent you from telling your coworker you just went to the restroom in a bottle)."
22:27 TR News; Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Hits Beta, and "Jammy Jellyfish" Is Looking Good So Far MUO - MakeUseOf http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33282
22:27 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines
22:28 DaemonFC; "The app would block unfair, master, slave, injustice, ethics, diversity, and fairness"
22:28 lightweight; but it wont block mmaster
22:29 TR News; "The credentials are even more insecure than we could have imagined: access to an email address. And the data, of course, isnt very secure. But imagine how this kind of thing could be abused with a law enforcement encryption backdoor." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/hackers-using-fake-police-data-requests-against-tech-companies.html
22:29 TR Bot; Using Fake Police Data Requests against Tech Companies - Schneier on Security
22:29 DaemonFC; "pay raise, and phrases like This is dumb or This is concerning."
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22:29 DaemonFC; Why would anyone who worked there create an account on this?
22:29 DaemonFC; So the company could monitor them and censor all of their posts?
22:30 lightweight; does it block nazi besos
22:30 bnchs; lightweight: hello
22:30 DaemonFC; Our teams are always thinking about new ways to help employees engage with each other, Amazon spokesperson Barbara Agrait said in a statement to The Verge. This particular program has not been approved yet and may change significantly or even never launch at all. If it does launch at some point down the road, there are no plans for many of the words youre calling out to be screened. The only kinds of words that may be scree
22:30 DaemonFC; ned are ones that are offensive or harassing, which is intended to protect our team
22:30 DaemonFC; Protect them from the pay raises!
22:30 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
22:30 schestowitz-TR; hi lightweight
22:31 lightweight; hi
22:31 schestowitz-TR; are you dave lane?
22:31 lightweight; who?
22:31 TR News; GNU Health declared Digital Public Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163372#comment-33283
22:31 TR Bot; GNU Health and Other GNU Projects (Amin Bandali Continues Mike Gerwitz's Work) | Tux Machines
22:31 schestowitz-TR; lightweight: someone who goes by your nickname
22:31 schestowitz-TR; free s/w advocate from nz
22:31 bnchs; "GNU Health declared Digital Public Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163372#comment-33283"
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22:31 MinceR; DaemonFC: i think they're having their employees think about new ways to express those things
22:32 bnchs; congrats
22:32 lightweight; foes it blocks besos is the boss
22:33 TR News; What Git aliases are in your .bashrc? | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-aliases-bashrc don't use Microsoft GitHub in the examples. GitHub is an ATTACK on Git.
22:33 TR Bot; Git aliases are in your .bashrc? | Opensource.com
22:33 MinceR; not only new words, new spellings and new expressions, but also new chat services
22:34 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was out driving today and some retard who couldn't bother to check his side mirror or signal pulled out into my lane. Then when I swerved and missed him, he gave me the finger.
22:34 DaemonFC; Why I hate living in cities.
22:34 MinceR; there are other reasons to hate it too
22:34 DaemonFC; Eh, I gave him the finger too.
22:34 MinceR; and most of them have to do with high population density
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22:34 kingoffrance; this newspeak thing sounds exciting MinceR, what could possibly go wrong?
22:34 MinceR; :>
22:35 DaemonFC; Maybe they could call Bezos "Pooh Bear", like Xi.
22:35 bnchs; DaemonFC: sometimes i feel like i'm playing a first-person video game
22:35 bnchs; then i realize ughhh, i'm playing real-life
22:35 lightweight; "Pooh Bear" doesent hace Z in it
22:35 schestowitz-TR; operation beZos
22:35 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4
22:35 Alternative link; CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4
22:36 bnchs; wait wait a minute
22:36 DaemonFC; Or maybe if restroom is banned they can just say "I'm going to the Jeff because I have to take a major Bezos. Cover me for a few minutes, will you?".
22:36 bnchs; did the bot change
22:36 MinceR; it apparently has 2 alternatives now
22:37 TR News; LOL. "Use Microsoft AppLocker or other similar"... CVSS v3 8.6 ... HIGHLY severe. The title says nothing about Microsoft amd Windows https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-095-01 see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/lies-infiltration-and-nsa/
22:37 TR Bot; Rockwell Automation ISaGRAF | CISA
22:37 bnchs; altlink_cd4,
22:37 TR Bot; Lies, Infiltration, and the National Security Agency | Techrights
22:37 bnchs; altlink_cd4, s
22:38 bnchs; i forgot the repo
22:38 bnchs; well whatever
22:38 DaemonFC; Oh man, that was a good Bezos. I think my pants fit better. The John Harrington is very fulfilled.
22:38 immibis; is france really holding an election this week to determine whether to become fascist
22:38 kingoffrance; lol @ harrington
22:40 immibis; oh, no, it's a normal election with a fascist party among other parties like usual
22:40 TR News; "Motorsport Manager is pretty much Team F1 in a more modern shape. It even has the 2D view of the race simulation - you really don't need fancy 3d graphics to get the immersion of a race day. Feeling like a teenager again... :)" gemini://en.gmn.clttr.info/
22:42 schestowitz-TR; immibis: whether to become MORE facist
22:42 schestowitz-TR; *fascist
22:43 bnchs; yes
22:43 bnchs; he published the irc bot source code
22:44 schestowitz-TR; it's open soros
22:48 TR News; Corporate Openwash Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163394
22:48 TR Bot; Corporate Openwash | Tux Machines
22:48 bnchs; it's a php file..
22:48 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163393
22:48 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:56 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Linux in the Ham Shack, Late Night Linux, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163395
22:56 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Linux in the Ham Shack, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines
22:56 TR News; todays lefovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163396
22:56 TR Bot; today's lefovers | Tux Machines
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22:58 TR News; Links 05/04/2022: Firefox 99, Q4OS 4.8, and LXD 5.0 LTS Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lxd-5-0-lts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/lxd-5-0-lts/
22:58 TR Bot; Links 05/04/2022: Firefox 99, Q4OS 4.8, and LXD 5.0 LTS Released | Techrights
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 324.23
23:06 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ38zxYopSQ
23:06 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dJ38zxYopSQ
23:06 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Fedora Linux Review - NEW Updated Apps! GNOME 42 Desktop - (2022) Workstation (36) - Invidious
23:07 DaemonFC; Might be worth kicking around.
23:07 DaemonFC; I left Ubuntu originally because of the crackpot desktop decisions.
23:08 bnchs; they smoked crack during the design
23:08 DaemonFC; They still do it. Even in the upcoming LTS, they mix and match pieces of GNOME which were not meant to be installed alongside one another, and were not tested by upstream for that.
23:10 DaemonFC; LOL. The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS ISO is about a full GB larger than Fedora 36's ISO.
23:11 bnchs; still fits in a DVD
23:11 DaemonFC; It does, if anyone uses those.
23:11 DaemonFC; But it does sort of say how much extra crap is going to be on the hard disk if you use Ubuntu.
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23:12 DaemonFC; I like to start out with a pretty vanilla desktop and few programs installed.
23:13 bnchs; you could store the entirety of english wikipedia
23:13 bnchs; current revision
23:13 bnchs; in about 5 fucking DVDs
23:13 bnchs; well compressed
23:14 bnchs; well
23:14 bnchs; inaccurate
23:15 bnchs; As of February 2013, the XML file containing current pages only, no user or talk pages, was 42,987,293,445 bytes uncompressed (43 GB). The XML file with current pages, including user and talk pages, was 93,754,003,797 bytes uncompressed (94 GB). The full history dumps, all 174 files of them, took 10,005,676,791,734 bytes (10 TB).
23:15 bnchs; first one: 10 DVDs
23:15 bnchs; second one: 21 DVDs
23:16 bnchs; third one: 2175 DVDs
23:23 immibis; bnchs: DVDs are obsolete
23:23 immibis; believe it or not
23:24 bnchs; immibis: shut up
23:24 bnchs; DVDs are still used
23:24 immibis; bnchs: at the very least you could upgrade to blu-ray and put the first one on 1 blu-ray and the second one on 1 dual-layer blu-ray
23:24 immibis; or wait, maybe the 50gb ones were dual-layer
23:24 immibis; i'm sure i've seen 100gb blu-ray disks
23:24 immibis; blu-ray is still obsolete though as a data storage medium. Plain old hard drives are where it's at.
23:25 immibis; they're actually cheaper per terabyte than blu-ray, last I checked
23:32 bnchs; oh really????
23:32 bnchs; immibis, can you think of a cheap bluray drive?
23:35 immibis; bnchs: well I have one, I don't remember how much it cost, but clearly not too much considering that I bought it without any plans and I've still never read or written a single disk of any variety whatsoever
23:35 immibis; google suggests in the <100 range
23:36 immibis; it's even internal because my PC case is old enough to have physical media drive slots - fancy that
23:37 immibis; (there's even a slot for a floppy drive. Turns out PC cases have better forwards compatibility than Windows)
23:51 DaemonFC; JWZ recently had more problems with his Mac.
23:51 DaemonFC; Because of the amazing immutable root file system.
23:54 MinceR; he gets what he deserves
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