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00:00 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
00:00 matey; one file had 40 copies (on the same partition)
00:00 matey; if you merge backups, a lot, this can happen
00:00 matey; over years
00:02 XRevan86; Maybe it's not the video I was thinking of.
00:03 XRevan86; Or I misremembered.
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00:05 matey; /me wonders if anyone has noticed that people who dont blame their tools, while also being more skilled, also tend to avoid using shittier tools when possible
00:06 matey; i mean yeah you can still do more than the average bloke with some fisher price bullshit
00:06 XRevan86; I guess I misremembered his having a desperate radical message for his desperation.
00:06 matey; xrevan86 who
00:06 matey; /me is curious now
00:07 XRevan86; matey: Luke Smith on November 4th 2020 was talking about how the USA needs a divorse, effectively because the conservatives/whites need their own states.
00:08 XRevan86; That's a great solution to difference in opinion, just split the country every time there's a disagreement.
00:08 XRevan86; Until every household is its own country of course.
00:09 matey; oh
00:09 matey; i dont know why people put stock in that guy
00:09 matey; hes such a pandering douchebag
00:09 XRevan86; * divorce
00:10 XRevan86; matey: He's talking about "history" and religion now too.
00:10 MinceR; s/household/person/
00:10 MinceR; FTFY
00:10 XRevan86; What's there not to like?
00:10 MinceR; i'm all for it
00:10 matey; your scarequotes are a service
00:11 MinceR; though it's faster to just abolish every state
00:11 matey; mincer: if that were true wed have done it by now
00:11 MinceR; what
00:11 matey; /me is all for abolishing the state, just not via a route that most anarchists would favour
00:11 matey; the state is horrible
00:12 MinceR; well yeah, splitting the state until it ends up there is probably not the most reliable route
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00:12 matey; thats not what id advocate
00:12 activelow; "A long rant on why I believe sixel support has been blocked deliberately and unfairly" ...
00:12 activelow; "Some maintainers are holding users hostage to favor their preferred formats"
00:12 matey; sixels are not that important
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00:12 matey; theyre cool, implement them, its cool
00:13 matey; mozilla did more to gopher than anyone did to sixels
00:13 matey; you cant just find a corpse and say THIS MAN WAS MURDERED!!!!!!
00:13 matey; like, why does it look like foul play?
00:14 activelow; there is some remarks about gnome terminal/vte too...
00:14 matey; all gnome is death for free software
00:14 activelow; can't wait for the next glorious announcement of GNOMEbuntu... what's next on their roadmap... gtk4 with opengl?
00:14 matey; its not easy to get rid of, but the more you can remove the better
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00:14 matey; /me still uses gtk, but isnt happy about it
00:14 activelow; yet, for sixels, there is no need for any opengl compositor
00:15 matey; i was happy to replace icewm with dwm
00:15 matey; no gtk
00:15 activelow; with gtk4 it's mandatory now, opengl, yet no sixels ... what a brainfuck
00:15 matey; icewm is cool, wish someone would port it to work with tk (but thats not how such projects usually work)
00:15 matey; /me checks something
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00:16 psydruid; IBM: THE GREAT PRETENDER
00:16 psydruid; IBM: THE GREAT BANKRUPTCY
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00:16 psydruid; IBM: THE GREAT NAZI COLLABORATOR THAT WAS
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00:17 activelow; you see, a terminal emulator with sixels, what would i need... a single core, maybe 256MiB RAM...
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00:17 MinceR; what would icewm need tk for?
00:18 matey; mincer: if the goal is to get rid of gtk
00:18 matey; then gtk is sort of an impediment to that
00:18 MinceR; i thought icewm didn't depend on gtk
00:18 matey; then its a very reasonable question
00:18 MinceR; well, maybe their optional config tool does
00:18 matey; im pretty sure its gtk2
00:18 MinceR; if it has one
00:18 MinceR; i'm not sure it does
00:18 matey; no i think it uses
00:18 matey; you know? im happy to check
00:18 matey; either way i got rid of it because github
00:18 matey; i miss icewm, its nice.
00:19 matey; ive used it a lot
00:19 MinceR; doesn't seem to depend on gtk
00:19 matey; the first time i ran x at all, it was running icewm
00:19 matey; ill check again
00:19 matey; but yeah if youre right, then it wouldnt need tk at all
00:19 matey; that would be cool
00:19 MinceR; it's my fallback wm in case i don't have time to configure stuff
00:19 matey; i just used it because its fast and has good defaults
00:19 matey; it behaves as expected
00:19 MinceR; i just run icewm, set theme to infadel, set it to mouse focus and it's usable and pretty
00:20 activelow; jwm is quick and easy to use too
00:20 activelow; however, this doesn't answer the question wtf happened to "free software" terminal emulators... including linux console
00:20 activelow; i mean... if graphics capabilities are gone... which terminal emulator could be used to plog diagrams and render TeX and whatever?
00:21 matey; pkg_info -f icewm | grep "@dep"
00:21 matey; @depend audio/libao:libao @depend audio/libsndfile:libsndfile @depend devel/desktop-file-utils:desktop-file-utils @depend devel/fribidi:fribidi @depend graphics/gdk-pixbuf2
00:21 MinceR; jwm seems very similar to icewm, i should probably try it someday
00:22 matey; /me tries to think what fucked up shit jwm did recently
00:22 matey; i literally just saw something
00:22 matey; i used jwm a lot because of dsl and puppy
00:22 matey; but icewm is always a step forward from there
00:22 activelow; icewm -> media-libs/fontconfig ... jwm doesn't need this crap
00:23 matey; do a dependency graph on jwm
00:23 MinceR; do a beryl roll
00:23 matey; ill be very surprised if you still like it
00:23 matey; that was horrible :)
00:23 MinceR; :)
00:23 bnchs; SGI BAD
00:23 matey; im not going to be able to sleep after that
00:24 matey; i was editing jwm config at one point
00:24 matey; and i thought
00:24 matey; i fucking hate xml
00:24 matey; i dont ever want to edit xml EVER AGAIN
00:24 matey; config files are ok
00:25 matey; xml is just sugar
00:25 matey; and people feel comfortable with it, so they add more and more xml
00:25 matey; until theres nothing but fucking bloated syntax everywhere
00:25 matey; and there are 80 fucking attributes in one line of <bullshit>
00:25 MinceR; :)
00:26 matey; its one of those things where making it MORE comfortable actually makes it worse to use
00:26 matey; like when you find a nice fluffy pair of gloves-- and need to pick your nose.
00:27 matey; which is fine, as long as the gloves can be removed
00:28 matey; its kind of like the friendly gui of syntax-- more than a decade ago i seriously considered making an xml programming language
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00:28 activelow; icewm -> glib ... GNOMEified
00:29 matey; <loop counter=v start=5 stop=10 step=1><print "hi"></loop>
00:29 matey; but what happens to xml is, because it seems friendly and familiar to people
00:29 matey; it gets used as a shoehorn for all kinds of shit
00:30 activelow; jwm is simple to use and simple to configure, and it barely needs any configuration
00:30 matey; like a "friendly gui" thats horrible for some purpose, so you get 30 tabs with 50 controls and none of it is consistent
00:30 matey; also known as vlc player
00:30 activelow; anyway... jwm isn't any recommendation, it is an alternative to icewm, and it is a better choice given the dependencies of icewm (which are gnomeishy)
00:30 matey; jwm is simple to use and simple to configure <- im not going to trust the opinion on whether or not xml is a pain in the arse from someone using gentoo to remove unicode.
00:31 activelow; i didn't remove unicode support
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00:31 matey; its really just the fact that youre using gentoo
00:31 matey; which is awesome by the way
00:31 matey; but just like the super rich dont know what its like to wonder where next meal comes from
00:31 matey; gentoo users probably can no longer say if something is easy to use or not
00:32 matey; or maybe they can, for now i think probably not.
00:32 psydruid; SGI causes you nightmares featuring dinosaurs
00:32 matey; as i said, jwm made me realise i hate xml
00:32 matey; /me only has nightmares that theyll make even more sequels
00:33 matey; theyre going to make michael crichton into the next george lucas
00:33 matey; does disney own that franchise yet? did crichton sign the usual oath in blood?
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00:34 TR News; From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/
00:34 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights
00:34 activelow; apropos unicode... can your terminal emulator do this:
00:34 matey; it literally just did
00:34 activelow; and well, i do not need any ICU or whatever
00:35 activelow; and this terminal too already got sixels...
00:35 matey; i dont think those are enabled in this build, but they are a feature
00:35 activelow; which i think, should be default with _all_ distros
00:36 matey; even if theres a security flaw in the code and they cant be bothered fixing it?
00:36 matey; /me is taking a wild guess
00:36 matey; as you said its not just a few pixels, its a protocol
00:36 matey; protocols have to do several things-- sometimes the implementation has flaws
00:36 matey; so reimplement or turn off
00:36 activelow; the attack vector against terminals with sixels is, in practice, this: {0, 0, 0}
00:37 *psydruid is frank and only remembers jurassic park because of laura dern
00:37 matey; sounds like youve never heard of a buffer overflow in cat or strings
00:37 psydruid; I did watch it with my friends at the cinema at the time
00:37 matey; she was ok
00:38 matey; i like tall, and i think shes tall, so theres that
00:38 activelow; ok... sixel support is working now... i switched framebuffer to 16bit... and sixels require a 24/32bit framebuffer... well
00:39 activelow; you see... too sixels can be rendered HighColor
00:39 matey; sixels require a 24/32bit framebuffer <- maybe thats why its turned off
00:39 activelow; the sixel implementation i tested required 24/32bit within X11... it is a bug
00:40 matey; sixels can be rendered HighColor <- they should work in monochrome, wth
00:40 activelow; it too works with 16colors... and moment ... yes, greyscale too :)
00:41 matey; weird
00:41 activelow; it was some bug against the X11 API and XPutImage...
00:41 activelow; because, internally, the color palettes must be converted...
00:41 matey; i think its a very cool hack
00:41 matey; im less prepared to believe in some conspiracy about it
00:42 matey; too obscure
00:42 activelow; DEC VT341 is a _standard_
00:42 matey; so is the stuff youre turning off
00:42 activelow; with a proven track record of... 40 years
00:42 activelow; which stuff?
00:42 matey; standard features get axed all the time
00:43 matey; how many of the dec standards were implemented COMPLETELY in any free software?
00:43 matey; some im certain were partial to begin with
00:44 activelow; anway... some TODOs remaining, such as sixel to epson-raw-bitmap conversion
00:44 activelow; because then my terminal can do this: $ img2sixel <jpg> >/dev/lp0 ; echo "fck you" >/dev/lp0
00:45 matey; heh
00:45 activelow; and support for this for linux console _without_ x11 is remaining on TODO too
00:48 activelow; TeX typesetting to sixel, gnuplot to sixel ... some minor things remaining
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00:54 TR News; Tetzle 2.2.1 released https://gottcode.org/tetzle/
00:54 TR Bot; Tetzle
00:55 TR News; Tanglet 1.6.2 released https://gottcode.org/tanglet/
00:55 TR Bot; Tanglet
00:57 activelow; since i wiped apple CUPS and replaced it with lpr-ng, configured for matrix printers already, some format conversion handler there shouldn't be too difficult
00:57 *activelow needs to check epson-raw-bitmap
00:58 activelow; because sixels are supported by DEC printers... either epson matrix printers can support DEC sixel format or a conversion is needed
00:58 activelow; btw. 256color-palette looks very good, almost indistinguishable from HighColor or TrueColor
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 500.56
00:59 TR News; How to Install Slackware Linux 15: A Full Step-by-Step Guide https://linuxiac.com/install-slackware-linux/ Source: linuxiac
00:59 TR Bot; ( status 522 @ https://linuxiac.com/install-slackware-linux/ )
01:00 TR News; Clownflare fake 'security' https://dekisoft.com/ways-to-find-real-ip-behind-cloudflare/
01:00 TR Bot; Ways to find real IP behind Cloudflare or a Proxy Server - DekiSoft
01:01 TR News; Graeme Gott Ports to Qt6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164447
01:01 TR Bot; Graeme Gott Ports to Qt6 | Tux Machines
01:01 matey; 256color-palette looks very good, almost indistinguishable from HighColor or TrueColor <- yeah, i used 256 colour vga for MANY years
01:02 matey; its NOTHING REMOTELY like highcolor
01:02 TR News; The EPOs outsourcing to Belarus should leave Antnio Campinos a little shy of association in spite of the comment he made back in March http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/
01:02 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights
01:02 matey; about as similar as english and french
01:02 schestowitz-TR; pixel density is important
01:02 schestowitz-TR; with high density you get a lot
01:03 matey; yeah i used to favour a certain graphics editor for its capable dithering of 16 colours too
01:03 schestowitz-TR; people forget what res we had in cga/ega/vga days
01:03 matey; you should both sell used cars like this
01:03 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/trump-judge-deemed-unqualified-by-the-american-bar-association-was-the-one-that-threw-out-the-face-mask-mandate/
01:03 TR Bot; Trump judge deemed unqualified by the American Bar Association was the one that threw out the face mask mandate. BaronHK's Rants
01:03 schestowitz-TR; somje screens now have like 100 times more pixels in them
01:04 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: in the US you get a front row seat
01:04 schestowitz-TR; in the freaskshow
01:04 schestowitz-TR; according to george carlin
01:04 schestowitz-TR; some kid becomes judge
01:04 schestowitz-TR; just a few years after barely finishing law school
01:05 matey; somje screens now have like 100 times more pixels in them <- sure, but 1920x1080 is only 32 times 320x200
01:06 matey; then again if you have 6 monitors, thats 6 times as many pixels :)
01:06 goosestepping_; before I go, could somebody please tell me, if a Book has references to drug use and the likes, but not in any sort of derogatory fashion, then would I check Yes, or No, on a question as this: Does this book contain language, situations, or images inappropriate for children under 18 years of age?
01:06 matey; so if you have 6 1920x1080 screens, thats 180 times 320x200
01:07 matey; kids use drugs
01:07 matey; sometimes they write books for kids about kids who have used drugs
01:07 matey; i imagine at least a few do so in a reasonable (non-propaganda-like) fashion
01:08 matey; so making a hard rule about 100% of instances would be difficult
01:08 matey; as making hard rules about nearly anything is difficult
01:08 matey; including that one
01:08 TR News; "The good news, though, is that there is no indication theyve been exploited by attackers in the wild." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/03/tlstorm-2-0/
01:08 TR Bot; TLStorm 2.0: Critical bugs in widely-used Aruba, Avaya network switches - Help Net Security
01:08 matey; hence "nearly anything"
01:09 matey; hard rules, simple answers, impossible solutions, continuing problems
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01:11 TR News; Phoronix outsourced to clownflare... AAAANNNNND... "Error 526 Ray ID: 705d03dbcfe576d5 2022-05-04 00:10:44 UTC Invalid SSL certificate"
01:12 TR News; SSL certs improve security if you don't deem long, unexpected downtime a security issue. Clownflare makes that even WORSE.
01:12 activelow; thinking about gemini with sixels... for wikipedia inside gemini space
01:13 activelow; this may be the easiest route to take to browse www/html, with a germini protocol conversion, and a terminal germini client with sixels output
01:14 activelow; because, illustrations, monocrome or 16 colors, at some bare minim, are useful for scientific publications
01:14 activelow; not sure, if animated sixels are possible or desireable
01:15 activelow; scientific authoring and publication... thinking thinking thinking
01:15 activelow; since, the economic war and acts of sabotage against this, made in USA and their corporate interests mainly...
01:16 activelow; can't have this without a matlab license, adobe premiere and whatever else... f**** this
01:17 activelow; on IBM wintel PC only... another one... such business habits are economic warfare
01:17 activelow; not some minor criminal incident relevant to anti-trust, it is an economic war
01:17 activelow; attacking and sabotaging science
01:19 activelow; the era, when this escalated, i think, was Raegan presidency in 1980s, with protectionist and aggressions such as the 1984 semiconductor protection act... prolonged until today
01:20 activelow; the technological ruins and shattered pieces of the last 40 years
01:21 activelow; reminds me of TempleOS again... which got vector graphics capabilities too, including animated, and realtime
01:21 bnchs; wait does altlink rely on a list
01:21 activelow; i mean... what happened to "free software" elsewhere?
01:23 activelow; got that? a DEC VT341 was more capable than most terminals shipped as "free software" nowadays
01:25 activelow; someone posted a link to PDP-11 with tektronix 4050 or 4014 terminal capabilities, this had monochrome graphics capabilities for scientific plots and illustrations, within the terminal
01:25 activelow; that's late 1970s... almost 50years anniversary
01:26 activelow; and the hardware required, the board seemed to be assembled from some TTL7400 chips, little RAM, little ROM, and basic interpreter and vector graphics support
01:27 activelow; nowadays... Nvidia advertises their CUDA for "AI", sucking 500Watts, which can be accomplished with some milliwatts power draw
01:28 activelow; in any case... with or without them... most terminals lack the capabilities
01:28 activelow; guess what happened, if a humbla ARM with 16MiB RAM could do it... animated vector graphics
01:30 activelow; "super computer"... granted, neural network perceptrons require excess computational power
01:30 activelow; nonetheless, those were implemented, late 1050s already iirc... by IBM i think
01:31 schestowitz; clownflare https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.19-FW_UPLOAD-sysfs
01:31 TR Bot; ( status 526 @ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.19-FW_UPLOAD-sysfs )
01:31 schestowitz; clownflare https://www.phoronix.com/
01:31 TR Bot; ( status 526 @ https://www.phoronix.com/ )
01:31 schestowitz; some CDN...
01:31 schestowitz; no SSL, no access
01:31 schestowitz; I wonder if clownflare respects self-signed certs
01:31 schestowitz; no graceful fallback here
01:32 schestowitz; bad cert, STAY OUT
01:32 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164448
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01:49 activelow; since tty was tailored for exactly this, teletype terminals, working remotely connected with SSH or any telephone line providing a terminal with related capabilities, it's fast and efficient
01:50 activelow; of cause, with lower bandwidths, any illustrations and graphics, better remain limited to 16 colors
01:50 activelow; which is another minor todo, to estimate the required bandwidth for this... i think 2Mbit synchronous uplink/downlink are superb already
01:51 activelow; one disadvantage of sixels... i don't think they are suitable for realtime animated graphics output, which is overrated anyway
01:58 bnchs; schestowitz, lol
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02:04 bnchs; hey schestowitz do you have that bill gates video that crashes the bot
02:04 bnchs; sorry if i double pinged
02:16 activelow; given the experience i had, with gnome/gtk, another one seems to be glib library... which i am not sure yet if this dependency graph should be wiped
02:17 activelow; ... midnight commander... irssi .... which can be replaced
02:17 activelow; suckless.org doesn't seem to appreciate glib, not exactly sure yet why
02:17 activelow; because in comparison to c++, glib seems a lesser evil
02:21 activelow; navigating www implies most of this, as soon as any gtk is involved
02:21 activelow; yet, if any text-browser can integrat with sixels, then i won't miss gtk
02:22 activelow; i won't miss gimp, vector graphics/maths are more important
02:23 activelow; printing and scanning (sane) do not require any x11 nor gtk
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02:26 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/new-regulations-give-indian-orgs-6-hours-to-report-cyber-incidents
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03:26 DaemonFC; I love it when my insurance app wakes up and records like 1/10th of a trip.
03:26 DaemonFC; Wonder what that's all about.
03:31 activelow; One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code. Ken Thompson
03:31 activelow; http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/
03:31 TR Bot; All software sucks
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04:42 DaemonFC; Mom was reading a story about a woman being arrested for refusing to return $1.2 million the bank accidentally put into her account.
04:42 DaemonFC; How do you get $1.2 million in cash out of a bank?
04:43 DaemonFC; I went into my bank to get enough to buy an $8,000 car and they said "If we have it.". I walked out of the bank with it singing "The Man Who Broke the Bank at Monte Carlo".
04:45 matey; she got a million dollars AND they gave it to her in cash?
04:45 matey; its settled then, you have the wrong bank.
04:46 matey; even as a loan, a million isnt bad. she could have gone to vegas and spent it all on strippers.
04:46 matey; /me has no idea what a million equates to in strippers
04:47 matey; thats a lie, ive done the math down to the decimal.
04:50 matey; /me thinks such rates should be on booking websites like priceline, william shatner could promote this
04:51 matey; "you save a lot of money if someone has hired and then cancelled"-- tully from ghostbusters (but not reall)
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05:47 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FTlzaDgzPY8
05:47 TR Bot; 7th Edition Unix at 40 by Warner Losh - Invidious
05:52 matey; it explains a lot of things that people might otherwise think were invented by linus, or something like that
05:52 matey; c came from b, which would have been fortran otherwise
05:53 matey; if you try to make a systems language based on fortran for the pdp-7, maybe you end up with b (then c) instead
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05:53 matey; and i guess unix was originally called "kens new system"
05:53 matey; kenux
05:53 matey; they never called it kenux
05:56 activelow; nice... removed c++ configure check ... /usr/bin/w3m -sixel :)
05:57 matey; also it was originally designed to repurpose e-waste (specifically the pdp-7 the visual and acoustics department had gotten bored with)
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05:57 activelow; working... finally the somewhat buggy links-browser can be removed, i'll not bother with gtk/netsurf/ or any other like this anymore
05:58 activelow; yet, before gnome/glib can be removed, i need to replace midnight commander and irssi irc with something else...
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05:59 activelow; irssi is somewhat sad, it is better to remain consistent with the decisions... and remove glib and all dependencies ... it isn't required anymore
05:59 activelow; somehow, even irssi is conceptually slightly flawed, because it duplicated functionalities of a terminal multiplexer
06:00 activelow; instead of managing servers/channels with irssi, i think tmux-screens with separate irc-client instance are preferable
06:01 activelow; anyway... w3m+sixels... i'll bundle this into a clean ebuild, fix some color scheme issues
06:03 matey; ken thompson apparently made a version of basic (yes, basic) for the pdp11
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06:03 matey; with if else fi
06:04 matey; it used line numbers-- possibly optional ones
06:04 matey; the language was probably not yet 20 years old (first version in 63 or 64)
06:05 activelow; seems i am not alone http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/
06:05 TR Bot; C++ is Good for the Economy, It Creates Jobs!
06:08 matey; Turn your PC into a PDP-11 running Seventh Edition UNIX. This way you can run UNIX just like Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson did back in 1979. This is a sanos port of Bob Supnik's PDP-11 simulator. I have made an ISO image with sanos, the PDP-11 simulator, and the UNIX V7 kit from The Computer History Simulation Project. Just put the CD-ROM in your PC and boot. Then your PC is turned into a PDP-11 running UNIX V7!
06:09 matey; http://www.jbox.dk/sanos/pdp11.htm
06:09 TR Bot; Sanos PDP-11 Simulator with UNIX V7
06:09 matey; http://www.jbox.dk/downloads/pdp11.zip
06:10 matey; that iso (zipped) is possibly 15 years old
06:10 matey; you can run it in qemu
06:11 matey; as for the age of the binaries therein...
06:11 matey; # Restricted rights: Use, duplication, or disclosures
06:11 matey; is subject to restrictions stated in your contract with
06:11 matey; Western Electric Company, Inc.
06:11 matey; Thu Sep 22 19:44:08 EDT 1988
06:11 activelow; what's interesting about the dependency graph with sixels in place and w3m for example... the typical fbcon (linux framebuffer console driver) backend isn't necessary to output bitmap graphics; instead sixels in between are the vendor-independent abstraction, and the capability can be advertised correctly depending on the terminal available
06:12 activelow; given the fact, fbcon too is a vendor-lock, against linux
06:12 matey; a 34 year old copy of unix v7
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06:14 activelow; too, sixels are agnostic towards X11 or none at all... either the terminal got it, or it didn't
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06:17 activelow; matey: would be curious what the termcaps of this unix v7 were
06:17 activelow; such as, ReGIS/sixels
06:18 activelow; because, the prime use case of computer systems was, science, mathematics, with the possibility to plot graphs
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06:19 activelow; of cause, vector graphics aren't the only criteria, nonetheless a Ti89 calculator could do it, with it's limited BASIC interpreter shell and low-res display
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06:23 matey; at bell labs there were 3 pdp9s and 2 pdp15s that ran php7 unix
06:23 matey; because of broad (but incomplete) binary compatbility from model to model
06:24 matey; and the pdp7 emulator, a computer implemented as software, was written for (and won) the obfuscated c contest
06:24 activelow; this is how C language andc compilers evolved, with the promise of an abstraction above hardware-specific ASM programming
06:26 activelow; anyway, w3m is cool... it is 100% c-only (only removed c++ check from configure.ac)
06:26 activelow; the only c++ code inside is to target... a voila ... Microsoft IBM Wintel PC
06:26 matey; the discarded pdp7 that unix was developed on originally was about $250,000 in 1965 money, maybe a million or a million and a half (e-waste) that unix salvaged
06:27 activelow; a fun feature, the output rendering of graphics can be easily switched to monochrome, which the epson matrix printer got
06:28 activelow; if terminal is set to 80 characters width, the virtual-terminal output should match 100% what is plotted onto a matrix printer
06:28 activelow; or 120 characters, which is possible too with epson matrix
06:30 matey; "first edition sounds really fancy... it means they printed a manual 'and this is the first edition because thats the date we printed the manual'"
06:30 matey; "they didnt have cvs, or sscs, or git or anything like that"
06:30 matey; sccs
06:31 matey; by 5th edition they had completed the kernel rewrite (porting it to c)
06:32 matey; the userland however, was still not ported to c
06:32 matey; a lot of this information is from tuhs.org
06:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, We should get rid of the useless eaters, really, when you think about it.
06:32 DaemonFC; Let's kill all the lawyers.
06:32 matey; which stallman might call "retrocomputing" bu
06:32 matey; while the world wouldnt miss lawyers
06:33 matey; and that part is a nice thought...
06:33 matey; (i would personally miss lessig)
06:33 DaemonFC; They don't add anything to the economy.
06:33 matey; " rid of the useless eaters" isnt entirely fair (or different from what hitler)
06:33 matey; dont make me get the hose, mike...
06:33 DaemonFC; They don't invent, they don't even promote the arts and sciences.
06:33 DaemonFC; They don't even dig ditches and fill them back in.
06:33 DaemonFC; They're terrorists for hire.
06:33 matey; the economy is a piece of shit, its barely nicer to humanity than nazi germany all in all
06:34 matey; They're terrorists for hire. <- lawyers or people you think are lazy?
06:34 DaemonFC; Lawyers.
06:34 matey; oh them
06:34 DaemonFC; Their job is mostly vexatious litigation.
06:35 matey; well its a dangerous argument, because it wont end with just lawyers
06:35 DaemonFC; Only rarely does it get so bad that even the courts and other lawyers step in and ban them from practicing law anymore.
06:35 matey; other than that... *shrug*
06:35 activelow; the term "retrocomputing" doesn't do justice to what real unix is
06:35 DaemonFC; People on welfare can't do as much damage to the economy as just one lawyer.
06:35 matey; if anything they help it (considering what the economy IS)
06:36 matey; the economy is the greatest pyramid scheme since... well, actual pyramids
06:36 DaemonFC; Assuming people on welfare don't do anything useful, at all, and just eat and take space and tax money (which is how they are viewed, even though it's not the facts...) it would take about 10,000 of them to do as much harm as having 1 lawyer.
06:36 matey; lol
06:36 matey; time to write a book ryan
06:37 matey; even if its just a comedy one like carlin or seinfeld did
06:37 matey; which wasnt their best work, but there were some good bits
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06:38 DaemonFC; Lawyers are worse than people who are in advertising.
06:38 DaemonFC; Even the ones that made ads for cigarettes.
06:38 matey; i dont know
06:38 DaemonFC; Ads can't make you do anything you didn't kind of want to already. Courts can.
06:38 matey; the problem with marketing is its long term impacts on how society works
06:38 matey; i actually think theyre worse than lawyers
06:38 matey; but bill hicks is a huge inspiration there
06:38 matey; but i really mean it (he probably did too)
06:39 DaemonFC; "Kill yourself! There's no joke coming."
06:39 matey; Ads can't make you do anything you didn't kind of want to already <- long term manipulation from birth to death can have a really incredible impact
06:39 DaemonFC; My feelings about lawyers.
06:39 matey; bill hicks was a prophet.
06:40 matey; its outrageous that anyone (even jones himself) ever compared alex jones to bill hicks
06:40 DaemonFC; I think Bill Hicks would like me. I think he would.
06:40 matey; thats blasphemy
06:40 matey; better you than alex jones
06:41 matey; you do have a hicks-like flavour to your schtick, at least
06:41 DaemonFC; I slept until 12:30 today. Bill Hicks said his boss told him to look busy. He says, "You get paid more than me. You fantasize. You're lucky I'm even here. My bed was like a womb.".
06:41 DaemonFC; That's how I feel about bed vs. doing stuff.
06:42 DaemonFC; If he could just be here to see all the abortion stuff.
06:42 DaemonFC; The evil insane idiot fucks finally won.
06:42 matey; /me is on the evil insane idiot fucks side
06:43 matey; im not offended, its the sort of issue where being passionate is often unavoidable
06:43 DaemonFC; To get an abortion, you have to have the presence of mind to see how it will ruin you financially, and ruin your body and mind, if you commit to having children.
06:43 DaemonFC; So even in Illinois, most of them don't get an abortion, even when they really should have done anything besides having children.
06:44 matey; i thought you were anti-abortion
06:44 DaemonFC; Well, I am. I think it's nuts that it ever got to that point.
06:44 DaemonFC; But the Republicans are laying the foundation to take away birth control too.
06:45 matey; more birth control, fewer abortions, its true
06:45 matey; but never count on consistency from republicans, or sanity from democrats
06:45 DaemonFC; That was the way it was heading anyway.
06:45 DaemonFC; People are having fewer abortions now than ever.
06:46 matey; they feed from the same trough
06:46 DaemonFC; About half a many as when Roe was being argued, even though abortion was only legal in like 6 states then.
06:46 DaemonFC; After Roe, it will still be legal in 30.
06:46 DaemonFC; And even if we lose the three that are expected to ban it, then 27.
06:46 matey; which 3?
06:46 DaemonFC; 27 states with over 80% of the US population, and most are in range of a state that banned it.
06:47 DaemonFC; Indiana for sure.
06:47 DaemonFC; Saw a couple others. Can't remember which. NPR had a map.
06:47 DaemonFC; But it's not difficult to get from Indiana to Illinois even without a car.
06:47 matey; i guess theyre still happy to be progessive when it dovetails with eugenics :)
06:47 DaemonFC; You buy a bus ticket or you take the commuter rail or something.
06:48 matey; if you take a greyhound the fetus will probably be dead from stress before you get to the clinic
06:49 matey; project paperclip was mostly about scientists and the space programme
06:49 matey; however greyhound makes me wonder if a few transporation projects werent lifted from nazi germany as well
06:49 matey; mostly the way they train the drivers
06:49 matey; granted its not an enviable occupation
06:50 matey; but its basially a hostage situation whenever youre on board, run by the driver
06:50 matey; you might think id be against greyhound drivers being armed
06:50 matey; im not, if anything it might help them relax a little
06:50 matey; itd be worth the risk
06:51 matey; but credit where credit is due, theyll get you to the abortion clinic
06:52 matey; i got on a greyhound-like bus in europe once
06:52 matey; thats a lie, they dont exist as far as i know
06:52 matey; it was like a palace on wheels
06:52 matey; they have the same ones in russia and poland for fucks sake
06:52 matey; america the beautiful
06:53 matey; unless you need to get on a fucking bus, then its america, welcome to hell on earth
06:53 matey; maybe its better than buses in mexico, but that depends on whether the ones in mexico are being shot at at the time
06:54 matey; or how hot it is that day
06:54 matey; they should make you take a trip on greyhound in lieu of community service for petty offenders
06:54 matey; it should keep more people out of jail for worse offenses
06:55 matey; "yeah i could use the money, but fuck it, im not risking another bus ride"
06:55 DaemonFC; I've taken Greyhound before. It's a better idea to use Amtrak unless you're just going one or two states over.
06:55 matey; no shit
06:56 DaemonFC; Anyway, past my bedtime.
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06:56 matey; have fun
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06:59 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, May 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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07:00 TR News; elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164449
07:00 TR Bot; elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details | Tux Machines
07:00 matey; unix 6ht edition still didnt have stdio but it had been worked on
07:00 matey; 6th even
07:03 matey; named pipes were inspired by rand pipes
07:04 matey; bsd started with unix version 6
07:05 matey; that was when (im not giving bsd the credit for this, bsd was an effect of this rather than a cause) things started getting ported and the unix family tree really started growing
07:05 matey; mid 1970s
07:06 matey; its also worth noting that even back then, ports and derivatives would feed fixes back to upstream
07:06 matey; so all these people making use of version 6, many helped (a little) to create version 7
07:07 TR News; "I need a flipchart or a whiteboard while teaching" https://jpmens.net/2022/05/03/one-gotty-per-user/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens
07:07 TR Bot; Jan-Piet Mens :: One gotty(1) Web terminal per user
07:07 TR News; "A wide variety of media players are MPRIS-enabled and can be queried using the above command" https://yarmo.eu/blog/playerctl/ | Source: Yarmo Machenbach
07:07 TR Bot; playerctl: get currently playing music
07:07 matey; as for bsd, they received direct contributions from thompson and/or ritchie
07:07 matey; i think thompson
07:08 TR News; "I realize not everybodys going to ditch the Web and switch to Gemini or Gopher today" https://seirdy.one/2020/11/23/website-best-practices.html | Source: Rohan Kumar
07:08 TR Bot; Best practices for inclusive textual websites - Seirdy
07:08 TR News; "This is approximately as wise as taking off from Mars in a ragtop rocket, but dont worry, the math all checks out." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/compiling-an-openbsd-kernel-50-faster | Source: Ted Unangst
07:08 TR Bot; compiling an openbsd kernel 50% faster
07:08 TR News; "syspatch71-001_wifi was somewhat broken (in terms of the housekeeping rather than the functionality of the patch)" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220503072835 | Source: Undeadly
07:09 TR Bot; syspatch71-001_wifi reissued
07:09 TR News; "a few weeks ago we had an article describing how most people using ProtonDB have moved away from using Ubuntu" https://boilingsteam.com/the-fall-of-ubuntu-as-a-gaming-distro-in-video/ | Source: Boiling Steam
07:09 TR Bot; The Fall of Ubuntu as a Gaming Distro in Video - Boiling Steam
07:10 TR News; "Given how rapidly the security situation can change, and in light of the recent (and well-publicized) vulnerabilities" https://staceyoniot.com/industrial-software-is-a-prominent-target-what-should-we-do/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
07:10 TR Bot; Industrial software is a prominent target. What should we do? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
07:10 TR News; "As you can imagine it's just gotten harder and harder to slide the the right holes." https://bkardell.com/blog/UAGottaBeKidding.html |
07:10 TR Bot; UA gotta be kidding
07:11 TR News; "When I left my React focused role behind I expected to find the transition hard, and miss what React had to offer" https://www.jackfranklin.co.uk/blog/working-with-react-and-the-web-platform/ |
07:11 TR Bot; Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform - Jack Franklin
07:11 matey; when bell labs wasnt able to provide support for 6th edition, dennis ritchie accidentally left 50 or so patches on a tape that somehow got mailed to the university of delaware
07:11 matey; this was during the big legal thing
07:12 TR News; "There was a project announced this week that lets you write python scripts in HTML" https://matt-rickard.com/java-py-script/ | Source: Matt Rickard
07:12 TR Bot; {Java,Py}Script
07:12 matey; so this helped with a lot of support issues from the 6th edition
07:12 TR News; "Samples taken from the girl's wounds were used to confirm that the animal that bit her had been killed" https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dna-confirms-coyote-attacked-year-dead-84449964 | Source: ABC
07:12 TR Bot; DNA confirms coyote that attacked 2-year-old is dead - ABC News
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07:13 TR News; "Researchers will work to deliver the first-ever optical communications from a 1U CubeSat" https://itwire.com/science-news/space/curtin-uni-teams-with-nasa-jpl-spin-off-chascii-in-spacecraft-optical-communications.html | Source: IT Wire
07:13 TR Bot; - Curtin Uni teams with NASA JPL spin-off Chascii in spacecraft optical communications
07:16 TR News; Kubernetes 1.24: Stargazer "We are excited to announce the release of Kubernetes 1.24, the first release of 2022!" https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/05/03/kubernetes-1-24-release-announcement/
07:16 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.24: Stargazer | Kubernetes
07:16 matey; 7th edition came out in 1979 and was the one that got ported to the x86
07:17 TR News; At clownflare, the shilling increases https://www.techspot.com/news/94416-cloudflare-mitigated-one-most-powerful-ddos-attacks-ever.html
07:17 TR Bot; just mitigated one of the most powerful DDoS attacks ever | TechSpot
07:17 TR News; On decentralisationhttps://andregarzia.com/2022/05/working-on-a-new-book-four-decentralisation-protocols.html
07:19 matey; this is the video that i learned sed 10q from
07:20 matey; which still works on bsd but i dont think it did on gnu/linux (i tried it a year or so ago)
07:20 TR News; The criminal uses a red herring to distract from Jeffrey Epstein https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/bill-gates-opens-up-about-divorce-and-infidelity-accusations-139231813684
07:20 TR Bot; Bill Gates opens up about divorce and infidelity accusations
07:20 matey; tail came first
07:20 matey; people piped to sed 10q instead of head
07:20 TR News; EU site still blocked by javascript https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_22_2764
07:20 TR Bot; Press corner | European Commission
07:21 TR News; It was long coming.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/grindr-user-data-has-been-for-sale-for-years-11651492800 WSL paywall
07:21 TR Bot; User Data Was Sold Through Ad Networks - WSJ
07:21 TR News; Muskian Stupidity, Market Cupidity - emptywheel https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/05/02/muskian-stupidity-market-cupidity/ Source: emptywheel
07:21 TR Bot; Muskian Stupidity, Market Cupidity - emptywheel
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07:22 matey; job control (ctrl-z) was done at berkeley by bill joy based on work done at mit (by jim kulp)
07:23 TR News; Editorial: The Belmarsh Tribunal is right Washington, not Assange, should be on trial | Morning Star https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/e/belmarsh-tribunal-right-washington-not-assange-should-be-trial Source: morningstaronline
07:23 TR Bot; Editorial: The Belmarsh Tribunal is right Washington, not Assange, should be on trial | Morning Star
07:23 matey; and bourne shell in v7 was the one that added inherited variables
07:23 activelow; matey, weren't thompson and ritchie affiliates of berkeley university?
07:24 TR News; Twitter https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/05/03/varfor-lamnar-socialdemokraterna-twitter/
07:24 TR Bot; Varfr lmnar Socialdemokraterna Twitter?
07:24 TR News; Government Collecting Everything You Do - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/government-collecting-everything-you-do/ Source: neritam
07:24 TR Bot; Government Collecting Everything You Do neritam
07:24 matey; im not sure if thats where we got things like $PATH but it might be exactly that
07:24 TR News; John Deere Remotely Disables Farm Equipment Stolen by Russians from Ukraine Dealership - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/02/152234 Source: soylentnews
07:24 TR Bot; John Deere Remotely Disables Farm Equipment Stolen by Russians from Ukraine Dealership - SoylentNews
07:25 TR News; Conflicts of Interest in OSI Election - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/03/047246 Source: soylentnews
07:25 TR Bot; Conflicts of Interest in OSI Election - SoylentNews
07:25 matey; 7th edition is when you could do pipelines in bourne shell
07:27 TR News; "Business and government users on Twitter may need to pay a "slight" fee to stay on the social media platform" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61303221 | Source: BBC
07:27 TR Bot; Musk says Twitter may see 'slight cost' for businesses and governments - BBC News
07:28 TR News; "The Russian hacking group behind the SolarWinds hack, Nobelium, is setting up new infrastructure" https://www.cyberscoop.com/solarwinds-recorded-future-nobelium-apt29/ | Source: Scoop News Group
07:28 TR Bot; hackers set up phony media outlets to trick targets - CyberScoop
07:28 TR News; "Last year we danced in court with a Patent Troll and they eventually backed off." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4598 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
07:28 TR Bot; Theft - News - SparkFun Electronics
07:29 matey; a full build of venix system 7 on the dec rainbow takes about 15 hours to build
07:30 matey; the rainbow had an 8086 and a z80-- two cpus
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07:31 TR News; "Felix Bolanos, a cabinet minister, told a news conference on Monday that the phones of Socialist Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1907824.html | Source: RTL
07:31 TR Bot; RTL Today - "We don't know who it is": Spanish government on defensive over spyware claims
07:31 TR News; "So, instead of importing the public key from a keyserver, fetch it from the smartcard with the following commands" https://yarmo.eu/blog/gpg-import-from-smartcard/ | Source: Yarmo Machenbach
07:31 TR Bot; GPG import public key from smartcard
07:33 matey; note that all this information comes from freebsd people and mckusick was in the audience
07:34 TR News; Clearview AI https://www.inc.com/steven-i-weiss/clearview-ai-facial-recognition-technology.html | Source: Mansueto Ventures
07:34 TR Bot; Facial Recognition Technology Has an Uncertain Future with Small Business | Inc.com
07:34 matey; im not a very big fan of freebsd itself but some of the people are legends
07:34 TR News; "The report says the information has been for sale since at least 2017 and that historical data may still be obtainable." https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/02/grindr-user-location-data-reportedly-collected-sold/ | Source: Silicon Angle
07:34 TR Bot; user location data was reportedly collected and sold - SiliconANGLE
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07:38 TR News; "As in previous years, we dispatched a handful of our researchers and engineers to attend the conference" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/05/03/themes-from-real-world-crypto-2022/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
07:38 TR Bot; Themes from Real World Crypto 2022 | Trail of Bits Blog
07:38 TR News; "As a general rule, when people keep doing something wrong, they're actually right and your system is wrong." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/MonitoringTooHard | Source: uni Toronto
07:38 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/MonitoringTooHard
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07:43 matey; ukranian buses have throw rug carpets on the floors
07:43 matey; thats too awesome
07:44 matey; and those frilly things on the windows, the genesis if which ive no idea
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07:50 TR News; "Scared of being left in the digital dust, private equity investors are stampeding towards crypto projects" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/venture-capitalists-catch-crypto-fever/91285257 | Source: India Times
07:50 TR Bot; crypto: Venture capitalists catch crypto fever, CIO News, ET CIO
07:51 TR News; "If you told me you own all of the bitcoin in the world and you offered it to me for $25 I wouldnt take it because what would I do with it?" https://futurism.com/the-byte/warren-buffett-bitcoin-crypto-scam | Source: Futurism
07:51 TR Bot; Warren Buffett Says He Wouldnt Buy All the Bitcoin in the World for $25
07:51 TR News; "Even bitcoin enthusiasts tend to regard the cryptocurrency as a passive asset that investors buy and hold and hope to see increase in price over a long period" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/30/warren-buffett-gives-his-most-expansive-explanation-for-why-he-doesnt-believe-in-bitcoin.html | Source: CNBC
07:51 TR Bot; Warren Buffett gives his most expansive explanation for why he doesn't believe in bitcoin
07:51 TR News; "Sri Lanka has run sizeable trade deficits for decades. As the debts matured, the years after 2020 were expected to see high levels of debt-servicing." https://qz.com/india/2161330/some-sri-lankans-invested-in-cryptocurrency-to-tackle-crisis/ | Source: Quartz
07:51 TR Bot; Some Sri Lankans invested in cryptocurrency to tackle crisis Quartz India
07:52 TR News; "The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that owns Wikipedia, said it will no longer accept cryptocurrency as a means of donating." https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/crypto/wikipedia-set-to-stop-accepting-cryptocurrency-donations/ | Source: CNET
07:52 TR Bot; Set to Stop Accepting Cryptocurrency Donations - CNET
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07:52 TR News; "US Securities and Exchange Commission recently have proposed amendments in Exchange act of 1934 with an objective of standardizing disclosures regarding cyber security risk management" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/secs-proposed-cyber-disclosure-a-game-changer/91248278 | Source: India Times
07:53 TR Bot; SECs proposed cyber disclosure: A game changer, CIO News, ET CIO
07:53 TR News; "In a press release, the SEC cited a booming period for [cryptocurrency] markets and a corresponding responsibility to keep investors safe from the growing risk of fraudulent investment schemes." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23055499/sec-nearly-doubles-cryptocurrency-enforcement-unit | Source: The Verge
07:53 TR Bot; SEC nearly doubles crypto enforcement unit, citing fraud risk in booming market - The Verge
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 361.11
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08:06 TR News; "Over the past few days, several independent news outlets and journalists have had their PayPal accounts abruptly canceled and their funds frozen by the company" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/paypal-independent-media-journalism-censorship-tech | Source: Jacobin Magazine
08:06 TR Bot; PayPal Has Begun Quietly Shuttering Left-Wing Media Accounts
08:06 TR News; "In a legal opinion for the campaign group Index on Censorship, Millar said that the bill would lead to algorithms deciding what people could say online" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/online-safety-bill-threatens-rights-to-free-speech-claims-top-lawyer-g2fd585zs | Source: The Sunday Times UK
08:07 TR Bot; Online Safety Bill threatens rights to free speech, claims top lawyer | News | The Times
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08:08 TR News; "Spotifys plans for enhanced content moderation came to light in a report from the Irish Independent." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/02/spotify-content-moderation-hires/ | Source: Digital Music News
08:08 TR Bot; Spotify Pursues Content Moderation With Multiple 'Trust and Safety' Hires
08:08 TR News; "To summarise, I define totalitarianism as a) the attempt to use the power of the state to dictate" https://www.devever.net/~hl/soctol | Source: Devever
08:09 TR News; "Russia's invasion of Ukraine has contributed vastly to the spread of fake news and propaganda" https://www.voanews.com/a/press-freedom-advocacy-group-says-propaganda-a-global-threat-to-free-media/6554791.html | Source: VOA News
08:09 TR Bot; Disinformation, Censorship, Trigger Global Retreat of Press Freedom
08:22 psydruid; says Voice of America
08:28 TR News; Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/
08:28 TR Bot; Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights
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08:42 TR News; "the misuse of the extradition treaty which specifically prohibits political extradition" https://labouraffairs.com/2022/05/01/the-persecution-of-julian-assange-part-3/ |
08:42 TR Bot; The Persecution of Julian Assange Part 3 Labour Affairs
08:44 activelow; navigating www with a text-browser is somewhat flawed
08:44 activelow; conceptually, by design
08:45 activelow; nonetheless, w3m with sixels, better than nothing
08:47 TR News; "The recent string of elections started in Bessemer, Alabama, when the Retail" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23056053/amazon-warehouse-union-organization-drives-latest-news | Source: The Verge
08:47 TR Bot; The fight to unionize Amazons warehouses - The Verge
08:48 TR News; "Voting will begin on June 2nd and end on June 4th." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23055452/apple-retail-store-atlanta-union-vote-date-set-june-cwa | Source: The Verge
↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/3/23055452/apple-retail-store-atlanta-union-vote-date-set-june-cwa
08:48 TR Bot; First US Apple Store union election set for June 2nd in Atlanta - The Verge
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08:51 activelow; year 2002, when i first installed a linux, RedHat 9 Desktop, this presented an already blurred vision of *nix
08:52 activelow; resembling exactly what it shouldn't be, a consumer grade user interface tailored for comfort and little understanding
08:56 activelow; even programs such as irssi or conceptually flawed, such as duplicating terminal multiplexing internally, when instead this functionality belongs into screen or tmux
08:56 activelow; *are
08:56 TR News; "other platforms do permit third parties to access NFC tech to make such payments" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3658858/eu-accuses-apple-of-market-abuse-with-nfc-and-apple-pay.html | Source: Computer World
08:56 TR Bot; accuses Apple of market abuse with NFC and Apple Pay | Computerworld
08:56 -jess-[Global Notice] Good morning. A critical vulnerability in the Matrix IRC bridge has been patched, deployed, and disclosed (see https://matrix.org/blog/2022/05/04/0-34-0-security-release-for-matrix-appservice-irc-high-severity for details) and we will shortly be disconnecting all affected third party Matrix bridges we can find in the interest of protecting their users.
↺ https://matrix.org/blog/2022/05/04/0-34-0-security-release-for-matrix-appservice-irc-high-severity
08:56 TR News; "At issue is Apple Pay, a contactless-payment service introduced in 2014." https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/watchdogs-take-a-swipe-at-apple-pay/21809094 | Source: The Economist
08:56 TR Bot; take a swipe at Apple Pay | The Economist
08:57 TR News; "The EU Commission finding follows a months-long preliminary investigation." https://www.dw.com/en/eu-hits-apple-with-antitrust-charge-over-digital-wallet/a-61661965 | Source: Deutsche Welle
08:57 TR Bot; hits Apple with antitrust charge over digital wallet | News | DW | 02.05.2022
08:57 TR News; "The Commission holds that Apple is restricting competition in the mobile wallets market on iOS by limiting access to NFC" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/European-Union-Escalates-Antitrust-Case-Against-Apple-20220503-0005.html | Source: teleSUR
08:57 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:57 TR News; "The Canadian government plans to extend the term of copyright from the international standard of life of the author plus 50 years to life plus 70 years" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/04/the-canadian-government-makes-its-choice-implementation-of-copyright-term-extension-without-mitigating-against-the-harms/ | Source: Michael Geist
08:57 TR Bot; The Canadian Government Makes its Choice: Implementation of Copyright Term Extension Without Mitigating Against the Harms - Michael Geist
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 497.18
08:59 activelow; https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux/blob/main/RANTS.md
08:59 TR Bot; at main csdvrx/sixel-tmux GitHub
09:00 TR News; "false information" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/03/influencing-fragile-minds | Source: Meduza
09:00 TR Bot; NO TITLE
09:00 activelow; "Bug reports tmux#1019 (comment) tmux#1502 (comment) mention serious issues, such as being unable to cat a long text file without some parts being cut off"
09:01 activelow; didn't expect a fork of an OpenBSD-related project was necessary
09:04 activelow; anyway, i made the decision, to remove gnu glib entirely too, and all dependencies
09:05 TR News; "Claiming that criminals use encryption to stay anonymous, last year a parliamentary committee urged the Indian government to ban VPNs" https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-users-anonymity-under-threat-following-indian-security-order-220503/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:05 TR Bot; Users' Anonymity Under Threat Following Indian Security Order * TorrentFreak
09:05 TR News; "Piracy [sic] is on the rise." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-site-traffic-surges-with-help-from-manga-boom-220503/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:05 TR Bot; Site Traffic Surges With Help From Manga Boom * TorrentFreak
09:06 activelow; for example, various tiny irc clients exist, which can be managed within a tmux session, instead of irssi duplicating terminal multiplexing
09:07 activelow; by coincidence, irssi depends on... gnu glib, so, when wiping gnu glib irssi is gone
09:07 TR News; "Ok, the title is a bit misleading. Like most things in life, it really isnt infinite." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/linux-fu-the-infinite-serial-port/ | Source: Hackaday
09:07 TR Bot; Fu: The Infinite Serial Port | Hackaday
09:07 activelow; next reasoning, ok, manage simple irc client terminals within tmux, yet see above what happened to it
09:07 activelow; tmux needs forking
09:08 activelow; didn't expect such an instability hitting an OpenBSD related component
09:08 activelow; nonetheless, benefit of this, sixel support with tmux
09:09 activelow; meaning, close to zero reliance on any X11 dependency anymore
09:09 activelow; although, i'll keep X11, sort of a comfort zone
09:10 activelow; another one, gnu glib... which is transmission supporting torrent
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09:10 activelow; this one is noteworthy too, torrent, either libtorrent pulls in c++ with various implementations, or transmission torrent which depends ... gnu glib which will be removed
09:11 activelow; otherwise, there isn't any torrent client/server remaining written in C-only, without glib dependency; or long story short, besides irssi transmission torrent isn't available neither
09:12 activelow; that's another two taken down, against GNU/GNOME/glib
09:12 activelow; next is "midnight commander"... which i became accustomed too... yet again, GNU glib
09:13 TR News; "Despite being a computer with some extra chips, synthesizers today are still quite expensive." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/patching-the-kurzweil-k2500-synthesizer/ | Source: Hackaday
09:13 TR Bot; The Kurzweil K2500 Synthesizer | Hackaday
09:14 activelow; ^ apropos... fluidsynth -> GNU glib ... timidity then, let's see
09:14 activelow; an alternative to fluidsynth exists
09:15 activelow; that's it mainly, and i do feel, strange, somehow, about GNU year 2020
09:17 activelow; suckless.org is pointing to, GNU, directly and indirectly; and it isn't "philosophical" nor "political" reasons to depart as far as possible
09:17 activelow; it is _technical_ reasons
09:18 activelow; and it isn't all components, although i couldn't dig into gnuplot peculiarities yet, for example
09:19 activelow; anyway, tmux got ISC smeared onto, and many other stuff GPL
09:21 activelow; "internet standards consortium" licensed tmux? ... and then we got this: https://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux/blob/main/RANTS.md
09:21 TR Bot; at main csdvrx/sixel-tmux GitHub
09:21 activelow; https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/1502#issuecomment-429710887
09:21 TR Bot; passthrough of large data sequence Issue #1502 tmux/tmux GitHub
09:21 TR News; "If youre a radiation enthusiast, chances are youve got a Geiger counter lying around somewhere" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/identify-radioactive-samples-with-this-diy-gamma-ray-spectrometer/ | Source: Hackaday
↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/identify-radioactive-samples-with-this-diy-gamma-ray-spectrometer/
09:21 TR Bot; Radioactive Samples With This DIY Gamma-Ray Spectrometer | Hackaday
09:23 TR News; Cancel the patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/03/complete-garbage-campaigners-blast-wto-alternative-covid-patent-waiver | Source: Common Dreams
09:23 TR Bot; 'Complete Garbage': Campaigners Blast WTO Alternative to Covid Patent Waiver
09:24 activelow; btw. roughly at the time when german wings 9525 crashed into the alps mountains, a job offer arrived at my desk, to track licensing issues and such
09:25 activelow; not interested, due to the typical "outsourcing" constructions involved
09:26 activelow; my last official job, which generated some rudimentary income, german aerospace supplier, with the boss of this company connected to switzerland, airbus constructors, TU munich
09:26 activelow; crazy... then some lunatic went amok in Munich, ordered a Glock
09:27 activelow; then i was fired, little later IBM proposed to conduct an IQ test with me... said no thanks, response, ok you got the job if you relocate to munich... by phone
09:28 TR News; "We are especially proud to present you Tails5.0, the first version of Tails based on Debian11 (Bullseye)." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tails-50/ | Source: Tor
09:28 TR Bot; New Release: Tails 5.0 | The Tor Project
09:28 TR News; "Tor Browser 11.0.11 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-11011/ | Source: Tor
09:28 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.11 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
09:29 TR News; New Release: Tails 5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164428#comment-33538
09:30 TR Bot; Tails 5.0 Anonymous OS Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
09:30 activelow; anyway, a typical GNU system with some tasks ... is ... less capable than a TI89
09:31 activelow; f(x)=x ... calculate data points... plot graph
09:32 activelow; ok... for this task, with a gnu linux bsd whatever... when working from source, the software needs to be compiled... which requires 12hours or 24 round about
09:32 *activelow is scratching his head
09:32 activelow; terminal opened... no sixel support... what is this?
09:33 activelow; that's why, i began to appreciate, some gear and stuff from Texas Instruments
09:34 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/irc-log-030522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/irc-log-030522/
09:34 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 | Techrights
09:34 activelow; the job offer to track licensing was from Airbus, almost missed it
09:35 activelow; given in the realm of theirs... minimum acceptance criteria are slightly different, i think
09:35 activelow; nonetheless, this is another misconception, aerospace or ISS were equipped with any different quality tech than ordinary consumer equipment
09:36 activelow; if Linux kernel is *ff*** the so is windriver systems mars rover
09:36 activelow; if *BSD is screwed, then is QNX
09:37 mjg59_; Not sure how that follows
09:41 activelow; because a QNX isn't that different, compared to *BSD
09:42 activelow; they got the *BSD packet filter, netbsd pkgsrc, whatever can be pulled into QNX realtime operating system
09:42 mjg59_; It's an extremely different kernel to *BSD
09:43 mjg59_; It was originally written from scratch
09:43 activelow; i didn't dig further into QNX, although the employer got access to the sources
09:44 TR News; "Baseball jokes aside, holograms have been a dream for decades" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/stop-motion-angels-in-the-light-field/ | Source: Hackaday
09:44 TR Bot; Angels In The Light Field | Hackaday
09:44 activelow; QNX is intersects with *BSD, without doubt
09:44 mjg59_; Intersects in what way
09:45 mjg59_; It's an entirely independent OS
09:45 TR News; Amazon Union Organizers https://truthout.org/articles/biden-may-invite-starbucks-and-amazon-union-organizers-to-the-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut
09:45 TR Bot; Biden May Invite Starbucks and Amazon Union Organizers to the White House
09:45 activelow; some other, rumors in this case, were, WindowsCE was stuffed with GNU licensed
09:45 mjg59_; It's like saying Linux intersects with BSD
09:45 activelow; of cause it does
09:45 matey; sure
09:45 matey; if ken thompson took time away from work to spend on helping linus write it
09:46 matey; or if linus had started out as a series of patches to system 6...
09:46 matey; s/linus/linux/ or, s/out/with/
09:46 matey; i mean it rewrote unix, but not from scratch
09:46 mjg59_; If all you're saying is that POSIX operating systems end up incorporating bits of userland from each other than that's not a surprising outcome?
09:47 mjg59_; But QNX is entirely architecturally different from BSD
09:47 mjg59_; It's a genuine microkernel and everything
09:47 matey; you must be talking to ativelow
09:48 mjg59_; Oh yeah sorry
09:48 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D578.jpg
09:48 mjg59_; Not directed at you
09:48 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D221.jpg
09:48 matey; rofl, its entirely my fault
09:48 matey; im taking a break from activelow
09:49 matey; i like some of his work, but im starting to think its a kind of...
09:49 matey; lets call it a mixed bag
09:49 mjg59_; matey: activelow is trying to build an OS without understanding hardware, firmware or software
09:49 matey; andy warhol was an artist. if he had been a developer that would have been interesting
09:50 matey; i learned a lot about sixels though
09:50 activelow; another one from the economic war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_signing_key_controversy
09:50 TR Bot; Texas Instruments signing key controversy - Wikipedia
09:50 matey; or i might have dreamt it
09:50 matey; the latter would make more sense
09:51 mjg59_; And understanding how all of these things interact is pretty important in figuring out how to actually support freedom
09:51 matey; freedom requires truth
09:51 matey; facts and contexts help tremendously with that
09:51 activelow; the conclusion, concerning calculators... the TI series didn't meet acceptance criteria for use in schools and universities
09:51 matey; without truth, freedom stands very little chance
09:52 activelow; nonetheless, after 1990, ... cash funneled here and there, and this shit was approved in schools and universities in free state of saxony
09:52 matey; activelows concept of history (i still admire some of what hes working on) reminds me of the google algorithms that dream and make up weird images covered in eyeballs
09:52 activelow; sadly, i must say, we quit uranium mining there
09:53 activelow; and the UFO airports are defunct...
09:53 mjg59_; matey: The goal of having complete freedom from silicon fabrication up is admirable
09:53 mjg59_; I agree that we shouldn't ignore hardware as part of this
09:53 matey; so do i, i have been saying so since 2017
09:54 matey; and i was talking about fpgas before they were a thing
09:54 mjg59_; But making design decisions that are based on not understanding what modern hardware actually does is not helpful
09:54 mjg59_; Neon is not a replacement for GPU acceleration
09:55 matey; well he compared 8 bit colour to 24 earlier
09:55 mjg59_; Yeah there was that too
09:55 activelow; sixels are 7bit
09:55 matey; and roy explained that at 100x times the number of pixels (which you get if you add his 6 monitors together, but not in a way thats relevant) you can hardly see the join
09:56 matey; thats 100 times 320x200, while 1920x1080 is merely 32 times that
09:57 matey; but 32 times 6 is 192, so
09:57 matey; if you line up his screens just right and sit far enough away
09:57 matey; then again
09:57 matey; if you just sit REALLY FAR away from 8bit colour
09:58 mjg59_; sixels are a perfectly reasonable way to represent graphical content in a constrained resolution environment, with additional GPU overhead
09:58 mjg59_; Eh I guess additional CPU overhead, the GPU is still just scanning stuff out
09:59 mjg59_; You make the CPU render a bunch of stuff into graphics memory
09:59 matey; at some point it crosses the line from research to performance art
09:59 mjg59_; Which means the CPU has less time to do anything else
10:00 mjg59_; When instead you could just pass commands to the GPU to render instead
10:01 matey; what would impress me is if he found a way to bypass the buggy gpu on one of those piece of shit hp laptops and get it running despite itself
10:01 matey; even if it was monochrome, id still be impressed
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10:02 matey; i suspect its a firmware issue though
10:02 matey; and since he doesnt do firmware (to the best of my knowledge) its sort of moot
10:03 activelow; another irony, TempleOS shell, not only got vector graphics, it got realtime animated vector graphics...
10:03 matey; imo if your gpu isnt working, it should just boot without that
10:03 matey; or at least provide that option to the os
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10:05 activelow; gigatron ttl too demonstrated it... realtime animated vector graphics
10:05 *activelow is staring at *nix command line
10:07 activelow; nonetheless, with sixel support, at least, i got back what a Ti89 aleady had... computer algebra together with support for plotting graph
10:09 activelow; anyway, the Nazi UFOs existed, really, the airport was located a few hundred meters away from my home, as a child
10:09 activelow; after 1990, the airport was closed
10:10 activelow; and the former Soviet aircraft hangars too
10:11 *activelow is torn apart metnally
10:11 activelow; mentally
10:12 activelow; a friend of mine, interested in avionics... didn't crash land with a glider, smashed into a train
10:12 activelow; either this was some story made up by the CIA, or it's something else
10:13 activelow; got some photos from the dismantled airports, which is why i am surprised, of accusations, of aggressions and whatnot
10:13 activelow; there wasn't any
10:14 activelow; as far as i can tell, east-germany dismantled
10:14 activelow; and the entire bureaucratic/political/media apparatus is hijacked by loyal washington/redmond minions
10:15 activelow; whe set the standards nowadays, which is what it is
10:15 activelow; who
10:16 activelow; the psycho-fuckery, after 1990, besides the economic war, was psychological war against the young generation of myself
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10:17 activelow; both, the economic and psychological warfare, originating from... USA
10:17 activelow; that's 30 years now
10:17 activelow; i don't give it another decade
10:18 activelow; i think, the difference was, existential crisis, if this isn't far away, a thousand miles
10:19 activelow; instead grandfathers themselves pointed rocket launches and flak air defense against US and soviets
10:19 activelow; then 1990
10:20 activelow; an epic propaganda campaign
10:20 activelow; nowadays, i am asked to justify, whatever...
10:20 activelow; some relatives were Stasi border guards, some others were the first to protest on the streets against it... that's not the point here
10:21 activelow; so how should i respond to any accusation?
10:21 activelow; for all i know, the graves and names are already gone
10:22 activelow; if you can't afford to pay for the grave, it is removed quickly
10:22 activelow; so, they wipe the entire history
10:23 activelow; here is another thing, my grandmother, married my grandfather; the history behind the "racism" of this she was stunned by his southern appeal with dark eyes and dark hair
10:24 activelow; this exact same grandfather, as a teenager, was ordered to flak air defense
10:24 activelow; he hated east-german stasi
10:24 activelow; later
10:24 activelow; so do i
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10:25 activelow; so, i was born, with blond hair and blue eyes, my sister wasn't; one is designated "Nazi", the other one isn't...
10:26 activelow; I, myself, do speak the original dialect, nonetheless i am lectured by those who don't
10:27 activelow; they say what is german and what isn't; they say what is historical fact and what isn't; who was supposed to be a Nazi and who wasn't
10:27 activelow; yet, they don't at least speak the language... so who is this?
10:27 activelow; hence, i decided to study something non-political
10:29 activelow; my grandfather gave me his hitler youth back pack and iron-spring expander for muscle training
10:30 activelow; i carried this back pack, for almost 20 years, in school
10:30 activelow; it was produced from "organic" materials, i would say
10:30 activelow; olive green, haven't got it anymore
10:32 activelow; my uncle, who served in france at big berta artillery, had given me some books, native americans
10:32 activelow; which was another moment of clarity, to remember this
10:32 activelow; which was, scientific books, of explorers, not some racist rubbish
10:32 activelow; priceless books
10:33 activelow; anyway, nowadays, it's all portrayed and framed into the usual narrative, as if some teenagers 70 years were responsible
10:34 activelow; and they wipe all history and memory
10:34 activelow; "code of conduct"
10:35 activelow; in germany, the legislation is to sanction "defamation of deceased"
10:36 TR News; Smartphones are good, actually gemini://tilde.town/~nihilazo/log/phone.gmi
10:37 TR News; A Scarf is just an unfinished Afghan... gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220503.gmi
10:38 TR News; "You like OpenBSD? Then, I'm quite sure you can contribute to it! Let me explain the many ways your skills can be used to improve the project and contribute back." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/contributing-to-openbsd.gmi
10:39 TR News; The legality of double slashes in URIs gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/03.2
10:40 TR News; I'm hoping this is a joke, because if it's not, I'm not sure what that says about our society gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/03.1
10:41 TR News; "Okay, one more post thats vaguely on the topic of free speech, and then I promise Im done for a while." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220503_free_speech_again
10:42 TR News; The path through prose gemini://idiomdrottning.org/path-through-prose
10:43 TR News; "When you need a super-zoomed out view, left and right is fine. Thats how I feel about the many political camps. A lot of the time, we need more nuance, and thats great, too. Its fine to discuss topics, both separately and in the context of larger frameworks." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/political-label
10:48 TR News; Creative Commons "welcome Nate Angell as our new Director of Communications and Community" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/03/cc-welcomes-nate-angell/
10:48 TR Bot; CC welcomes Nate Angell - Creative Commons
10:52 TR News; On retrocomputing and cyberdecks https://hackaday.com/2022/05/03/designing-for-the-small-grey-screen/ | Source: Hackaday
10:52 TR Bot; For The Small Grey Screen | Hackaday
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 11.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 466.50
11:12 TR News; Why is EFF trying to boost and save BAD things???? "LISTEN ONYOUTUBE [...] How to Prevent Twitter from Going the Way of the Dodo" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/digital-rights-updates-effector-343 | Source: EFF
11:12 TR Bot; Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.3 | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:13 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2zmw9s63d4rea.irc) has joined #techrights
11:14 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1095909869/starbucks-union-ceo-howard-schultz-workers-united-labor-benefits
11:14 TR Bot; Starbucks announces new benefits but only for stores that aren't organizing : NPR
11:15 DaemonFC; The company can't even give a COLA raise to stores that have unionized or are in the process of deciding on one because they have to negotiate a contract.
11:15 TR News; EFF 'activism': aiming very, very low
11:15 DaemonFC; So pretty much the only thing the union has done for them so far is prevent a pay raise.
11:17 matey; lol, COLA
11:18 matey; the reason we are both here
11:19 matey; techrights is a spinoff of comp.os.linux.advocacy
11:19 matey; cola
11:20 schestowitz-TR; matey: interesting statement
11:20 matey; oh its flattery
11:20 schestowitz-TR; not provocative, as it is partly true
11:20 matey; but not intentional
11:20 schestowitz-TR; some of the early people here came from COLA
11:20 matey; where did they go
11:20 schestowitz-TR; you can still see that in published logs
11:20 matey; ive seen most of the website
11:20 schestowitz-TR; matey: I'm still in touch with some, even this year
11:21 matey; im most curious about shane
11:21 matey; but ive said that already
11:21 matey; i dont think he had the same level of ambition
11:21 matey; bn was a project, not a vocation
11:21 schestowitz-TR; there must have been two dozen in and our over time
11:21 matey; keith is my favourite
11:21 schestowitz-TR; both irc and usenet have waned since 2006
11:21 schestowitz-TR; yes, keith is awesome
11:21 matey; though his javascript is an abomination, his writing is excellent
11:21 schestowitz-TR; his site is still going, so you know he's ok
11:22 schestowitz-TR; [H]omer aka Slated(.org)
11:22 schestowitz-TR; is [H]ardOCP still going?
11:22 schestowitz-TR; I've not seen it in years!
11:22 schestowitz-TR; Fedora is dying
11:23 schestowitz-TR; he sank a lot of work into Fedora Core
11:23 matey; i wont miss fedora
11:23 matey; i wouldnt miss red hat, though its clear fedora was the least shit part of it
11:23 schestowitz-TR; part of the issue is related to form factors
11:23 schestowitz-TR; fedora is not a mobile OS
11:24 matey; no, its bleeding edge
11:24 schestowitz-TR; it's not for touchscreen, gnome did have some netbook slant and plasma mobile are not a fedora thing
11:24 matey; empahsis on bleeding
11:24 schestowitz-TR; in fedora 14 you could run the mobile alternatives
11:24 schestowitz-TR; but android dominates it now, sailfish and tizen didn't catch on much
11:24 matey; thats like being dominated by smurfs
11:25 schestowitz-TR; if fedora does not bleed, how will ICBM detect bugs?
11:25 matey; but some evil corporate variety of-- pretty much the opposite of what smurfs are like
11:25 matey; if it bleeds, it leads (a path to destruction)
11:25 matey; dod seems to like it, so they enjoy the bleeding part
11:26 matey; now its a bloody mess
11:26 matey; im not against war per say, im against profiteering
11:26 matey; i was always against wars for profit
11:26 matey; per se
11:26 TR News; EFF doing buzzwords and fluff. HEY HI. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-teaching-ai-its-targets | Source: EFF
11:26 TR Bot; Podcast Episode: Teaching AI to Its Targets | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:27 matey; anyway, i try to think of a tech writer i find more inspirational than keith
11:27 matey; lessig probably, if talking were the same thing as writing
11:28 matey; but as a writer, i prefer lessig when hes talking
11:28 matey; he does good talks
11:28 matey; the slides are annoying but the minimalism is okay
11:28 matey; ill take lessigs slides over keiths javascript but theyre both inspiring
11:29 matey; he should really fix that
11:29 matey; its not his use that bothers me, its his abuse
11:29 matey; but im sure if anyone was going to get through to him they would have already done so
11:29 matey; i still admire his work
11:30 matey; ive spent too much time hunting down an archived copy of his best two articles that doesnt have the javashit on it
11:31 matey; but there no alternative to those articles. one is about jono bacon. but its about so much more than just (jono) bacon
11:31 matey; open source has some real slimeballs
11:32 matey; jono bacon could take credit for inventing the code of conduct
11:32 matey; im not sure hes earned it, but its plausible enough
11:32 schestowitz-TR; what is lessig doing now?
11:32 schestowitz-TR; does he still work for musk?
11:32 matey; still trying to save the world
11:33 matey; musk? i dont think he ever did
11:33 matey; maybe he collaborated. even that would be sad.
11:33 schestowitz-TR; I think he tweets
11:33 schestowitz-TR; \
11:33 matey; lots of people tweet
11:33 schestowitz-TR; he retweeted me a few times
11:33 matey; i sent him a copy of an article i wrote for you
11:33 schestowitz-TR; matey: yes, musk has many employees now
11:33 matey; about the constitution
11:33 schestowitz-TR; employees might be the wrong term
11:34 schestowitz-TR; slaves or serfs
11:34 schestowitz-TR; sharecropping
11:34 schestowitz-TR; he's accustomed to it
11:34 matey; pcmag: Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig discusses digital privacy, running for President, and why he agrees with Elon Musk about artificial intelligence. By Dan Costa January 29, 2018 My guest for this...
11:34 schestowitz-TR; his family made money off the locals, stealing the land's natural resources
11:34 matey; yeah employee implies he has musk as a boss
11:34 matey; thats not lessig
11:34 matey; he has harvard as a boss, sadly
11:35 schestowitz-TR; musk is in control of his public accountg
11:35 schestowitz-TR; not boss in the classic sense
11:35 matey; thats a stretch
11:35 schestowitz-TR; time will tell
11:35 schestowitz-TR; now they want to charge twitter useds
11:35 matey; www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/13/lawrence-lessig-harvard-law-professor-sues-new-yor/ 2020-01-13
11:35 matey; In the lawsuit, Lessig's attorney says The Times published a "sensationalized, false and defamatory 'clickbait' headline and lede," USA Today reported. The story's headline reads, "A Harvard...
11:35 schestowitz-TR; if they are businesses
11:35 schestowitz-TR; so you know it is going downhill
11:35 schestowitz-TR; twitter operates at a loss already
11:36 matey; good
11:36 schestowitz-TR; yup
11:36 matey; but so many things do
11:36 matey; walmart is famous for it
11:36 matey; theyre still here
11:36 schestowitz-TR; also, I checked this morning "analystics" for first time in 2 weeks
11:36 schestowitz-TR; twitter is faking traffic
11:36 schestowitz-TR; when musk entered the board it all quadrupled for no reason
11:36 schestowitz-TR; to inflate the value of the company was my guess...
11:36 schestowitz-TR; I did a video showing this
11:37 matey; no idea what this is
11:37 matey; uxdesign.cc/i-made-a-prototype-elon-musk-didnt-like-it-then-the-internet-went-nuts-9cef407ec686
11:37 matey; It was written about in Inc. Magazine. Even former presidential candidate Lawrence Lessig weighed in. The prevailing sentiment: "Automation should assist users, not tell them what they get." A sampling of reactions to Elon's response from Tesla fans in the TeslaLounge subreddit.
11:37 schestowitz-TR; then, a week later, he bought it
11:37 matey; then, a week later, he bought it
11:37 matey; i did say it would become a vanity project
11:37 schestowitz-TR; yes, exactly
11:37 schestowitz-TR; like a "pet"
11:37 schestowitz-TR; like omidyar with the intercept
11:37 matey; and youre probably right about him fucking with stocks
11:37 schestowitz-TR; and snowden leaks
11:38 schestowitz-TR; omidyar bought then and then buried the team studying them
11:38 matey; but thats more to do with being the richest person on earth than twitter
11:38 matey; i mean, im not saying twitter isnt a factor
11:38 matey; he will own the brand, not just a microblog
11:38 schestowitz-TR; the whole market is a giant cheat
11:38 matey; anybody can own a microblog
11:38 schestowitz-TR; "smart" and all
11:38 matey; capitalism itself is a cheat
11:38 schestowitz-TR; "smart" = shrewd = knows how to cheat and get away with it
11:39 schestowitz-TR; microblog is a black hole
11:39 matey; i dont hate musk for being the richest person on earth
11:39 matey; thank fuck its not ballmer
11:39 schestowitz-TR; it's very expensive to operate, esp. when you get many users
11:39 schestowitz-TR; then you become babysitter/moderator
11:39 matey; im not a fan of musk either
11:39 schestowitz-TR; I think it burned out ari4dne
11:39 matey; for the richest person on earth, hes such a tool
11:39 matey; I think it burned out ari4dne <- i think shes good at finding "better shit to do"
11:40 matey; this isnt sarcasm
11:40 matey; shes good at priorities
11:40 matey; the world might burn her out
11:40 matey; a microblog wont
11:41 matey; shes chaotic neutral
11:41 matey; she wont burn out from a project
11:41 matey; not a single one anyway
11:42 schestowitz-TR; later on href killed off pleroma.site
11:42 schestowitz-TR; after a hardware failure
11:42 matey; meh
11:42 schestowitz-TR; he had backups
11:42 schestowitz-TR; but did not use them
11:42 matey; the whole fediverse is rot
11:42 schestowitz-TR; let me show you something
11:42 schestowitz-TR; bear with me...
11:42 schestowitz-TR; as I forgot the URL
11:42 schestowitz-TR; it'll show you the death of all this decent/foss/federates bubble
11:43 schestowitz-TR; *federated
11:43 matey; given what it could have been...
11:43 schestowitz-TR; I did this analysis earlier this year as I had assessed leaving everything behind
11:43 matey; the fediverse is more ridiculous than twitter
11:43 matey; you know this is not an endorsement of either
11:44 matey; at least the fediverse doesnt demand your fucking phone number (only a bit of your soul)
11:44 schestowitz; https://the-federation.info/node/diasp.de
11:44 TR Bot; the federation - a statistics hub
11:44 schestowitz; 11743
11:44 matey; jason whatshisface
11:44 schestowitz; Users
11:44 schestowitz; 93
11:44 schestowitz; Monthly users
11:44 schestowitz; many pods are like that
11:44 schestowitz; with maybe 1% of the users active
11:44 schestowitz; the rest are just archives
11:45 matey; the fediverse can be salvaged only by failure
11:45 schestowitz; expensive and time-intensive to maintain
11:45 matey; thats a flowery way of saying it doesnt scale for shit
11:45 schestowitz; https://the-federation.info/
11:45 TR Bot; the federation - a statistics hub
11:45 schestowitz; "This project is in low maintenance mode. Consider becoming a contributor to help change this! Potential ownership transfer possible."
11:45 schestowitz; Even this very site is being thrown over the fence
11:45 matey; translation: father, please take this cup
11:46 schestowitz; 1. look under Projects
11:46 schestowitz; 2. then study activity over time
11:46 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/location-tracking-company-selling-data-on-smartphone-users-who-visit-abortion-clinics/
11:46 TR Bot; Location tracking company selling data on smartphone users who visit abortion clinics. BaronHK's Rants
11:46 schestowitz; you see it's flatlining towards 0
11:46 matey; wow
11:46 matey; selling to whom
11:46 matey; who buys that?
11:46 DaemonFC; Anyone who wants to buy it.
11:46 matey; well yeah
11:47 DaemonFC; Vice bought some for the article.
11:47 schestowitz; DaemonFC: grindr selling data now
11:47 schestowitz; that's your data, too
11:47 schestowitz; and all your chats, who you met, where you walked
11:47 matey; god forbid someone should see dfc chatting :)
11:48 matey; its hard to worry about grindr doing it when everyone else does too
11:48 matey; but i get it, sex is sacred (but not really sacred on grindr)
11:48 schestowitz-TR; matey: date-chatting by DaemonFC would be even more daring than in IRC
11:48 matey; dont get me wrong, i refuse to date via an app
11:48 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to even imagine..
11:48 matey; if i need google to get me laid id rather be celibate
11:49 matey; well youre a prude, if i caught a glimpse of ryan chatting someone up im sure itd be good for a laugh
11:49 matey; and i guess all three of us like asians
11:49 schestowitz; https://the-federation.info/
11:49 TR Bot; the federation - a statistics hub
11:49 schestowitz; Go to Charts
11:49 schestowitz; Total Users
11:49 matey; though i married a white girl (the first time at least)
11:49 schestowitz; see how the line falls every now and then
11:49 schestowitz; as instances shut down
11:49 schestowitz; there is no overall growth, or barely
11:49 matey; i mean youre preaching to the choir on this
11:49 schestowitz; and that also counts inactive/stale accounts
11:49 matey; i know its a sham
11:50 DaemonFC; There's probably a lot of my chats telling the undercover cops to fuck off and take their ridiculously obvious profiles and pictures of cocaine with them.
11:50 matey; it has been for... oh, since the only decent dev "killed himself"
11:50 schestowitz; now click Active users ratio
11:50 matey; or killed himself
11:50 schestowitz; I cannot link to it, it's JS "app" (terrible)
11:50 schestowitz; it's not a page but rendered data
11:50 schestowitz; not rendered once, offline, but using up people's CPU over and over again
11:50 matey; /me has never snorted coke off a cops weiner, and never plans to
11:50 DaemonFC; "The coke is a lie! The coke is a lie!!!!!"
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11:51 DaemonFC; :)
11:51 barto; greetings
11:51 matey; i once turned down an amazing woman because her SON was a cop
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11:51 matey; also im not into hard drugs
11:51 matey; i mean real life is weird enough on its own
11:51 matey; hi barto
11:51 DaemonFC; Yeah, I wouldn't want to be closely affiliated with anyone whose family was in law enforcement.
11:51 schestowitz; https://the-federation.info/diaspora
11:51 TR Bot; the federation - a statistics hub
11:51 DaemonFC; Imagine holiday dinners and stuff.
11:52 DaemonFC; You let the police in because it's your brother-in-law.
11:52 schestowitz; Users: 822088
11:52 schestowitz; Last 6 months users: 30393
11:52 schestowitz; Last month users: 8825
11:52 DaemonFC; He sees something. You're arrested for Christmas.
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11:52 schestowitz; only 1 in 100 registered users if active
11:52 matey; last time i was looking for a place, i found a state trooper lived there
11:52 schestowitz; so for each user on the network you have to maintain data, inc. images, for 99 more people
11:52 matey; "oh, and it has wifi. ill see if theres a motel."
11:52 DaemonFC; There's too many apartments on the market to get one where the cops are living next door.
11:52 matey; or in the same house.
11:53 matey; "so you didnt get the place?"
11:53 DaemonFC; I don't think anyone should want that level of scrutiny. It's bad enough if they even notice you at all.
11:53 matey; "no, i took the one with the room directly between a blood and a crip instead"
11:53 schestowitz; click "active users ratio " and you will see it is getting worse, not better, over time
11:53 matey; "hopefully the walls are thick enough"
11:54 schestowitz; at some point it could be 1 in 500 users being active
11:54 schestowitz; in joindiaspora it reached about 1 in 600!
11:54 matey; thats assuming the instance is even online
11:54 DaemonFC; People seem to be quickly figuring out that "social" media doesn't matter.
11:54 matey; its a miracle there are more than 6
11:54 matey; its not social and its not media
11:54 DaemonFC; Facebook is a liability, not an asset. The cops love Facebook.
11:54 matey; its the grape nuts of the internet
11:54 DaemonFC; It's a confessional booth.
11:55 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/social-control-media-implosion/http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/
11:55 TR Bot; Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights
11:55 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/ http://techrights.org/2022/05/01/social-control-media-implosion/
11:55 TR Bot; Dont Become or Remain a Slave of Elon Musk (Social Control Media is Still a Bubble) | Techrights
11:55 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: employers also love FB
11:55 schestowitz-TR; more reasons to fire you
11:55 schestowitz-TR; even on "sick leave" days
11:55 schestowitz-TR; and for your views on things
11:55 schestowitz-TR; we published about this only hours ago
11:56 schestowitz-TR; [08:28] <techrights-news> Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/
11:56 TR Bot; Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights
11:56 DaemonFC; *calls off* *checks in at the mall*
11:56 schestowitz-TR; [01:02] <techrights-news> The EPOs outsourcing to Belarus should leave Antnio Campinos a little shy of association in spite of the comment he made back in March http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/alexander-deev-blunder/
11:56 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part XII: Alexander Deevs Provocative Comments | Techrights
11:57 DaemonFC; It's like my uncle said.
11:57 schestowitz-TR; [11:54] <DaemonFC> People seem to be quickly figuring out that "social" media doesn't matter.
11:57 schestowitz-TR; the platforms fake their importanace
11:57 DaemonFC; People go to work when they're sick. They call off when they'd just rather be doing something else.
11:57 schestowitz-TR; for FOMO
11:57 schestowitz-TR; a false sense that they drive traffic
11:57 schestowitz-TR; even gulagtube does it
11:57 schestowitz-TR; with "happy stories" or stenography in the media
11:58 DaemonFC; $48 billion to buy a microblogging platform....
11:58 schestowitz-TR; the media which boosts this perception that "be there or be square"
11:58 DaemonFC; Yeah, this isn't a bubble at all.
11:58 schestowitz-TR; twitter and FB both fake engagements [sic]
11:58 schestowitz-TR; Twitter was sued by shareholders and lost
11:58 schestowitz-TR; FB also faked number of video views
11:58 DaemonFC; You know, when Twitter stock crashes, at least it'll be Musk holding the bag.
11:58 DaemonFC; All because it amused him to use it for his shitposting and to allow the trolls back on.
11:59 matey; i doubt he considers it that sort of investment
11:59 schestowitz-TR; WHICH OPERATES AT A LOSS ---> [11:58] <DaemonFC> $48 billion to buy a microblogging platform....
11:59 matey; both of you (mostly roy) underestimate how many things are purchased with INTENT to kill them off
11:59 schestowitz-TR; [07:27] <techrights-news> "Business and government users on Twitter may need to pay a "slight" fee to stay on the social media platform" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61303221 | Source: BBC
11:59 TR Bot; Musk says Twitter may see 'slight cost' for businesses and governments - BBC News
11:59 matey; even though roy is perfectly aware that happens
11:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, If you're not working at or buying shares of a company that's in San Francisco and taking on losses, you don't "get it".
12:00 DaemonFC; mjg59_ lives there, so he "gets it".
12:00 schestowitz-TR; I am already loving it, he'll kill it a lot faster then i thought possible
12:00 matey; though i dont think thats why musk is buying twitter
12:00 matey; he might kill it
12:00 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel MindManager Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164450
12:00 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel MindManager | Tux Machines
12:00 matey; maybe hes only buying it to show up mark zuckerberg in the rap battle of history
12:01 matey; "when im conquoring myspace... its actual SPACE, man!"
12:01 schestowitz-TR; [11:59] <matey> both of you (mostly roy) underestimate how many things are purchased with INTENT to kill them off
12:01 schestowitz-TR; no, this is discussed every week in #boycottnovell
12:01 schestowitz-TR; that's also the story of novell
12:01 schestowitz-TR; and what happened to it
12:01 matey; indeed
12:02 schestowitz-TR; last week I got my full twitter archive (final), over 5gb zip file
12:02 DaemonFC; What happened with Novell was so eyebrow raising that the government even got involved to try to limit the potential of their patents to cause harm.
12:02 matey; leave it to you to create 5gb, 140 characters at a time
12:03 DaemonFC; He wrote an operating system in brainfuck.
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12:03 DaemonFC; Posted it as a series of tweets.
12:03 DaemonFC; It came along nicely, especially the ports of systemd and GNOME.
12:04 matey; 5gb divided by 140 is 38(point 3) million tweets
12:04 DaemonFC; It bypassed GitHub and people can just quote the source code by embedding the tweets one by one unless they disappear.
12:04 matey; id flag that as spam, too
12:05 matey; how old is the account?
12:05 schestowitz-TR; I did not extract that, but I believe it contains images too
12:05 schestowitz-TR; the old archives were a lot smaller
12:05 matey; oh good point
12:05 schestowitz-TR; like 100mb
12:05 matey; i didnt think youd tweeted 38 million times, not even with a bot
12:06 matey; but your concept of a bot is different :) you use mouse macros i think, so its sort of like how people "bend the rules" while gaming
12:07 matey; ive seen some crazy tricks, the lengths people go to
12:08 DaemonFC; Every program should be neutral to existing toolkits and abstraction layers by reimplementing everything for itself with all new bugs.
12:08 DaemonFC; Like LightDM does, and like BtrFS did.
12:08 matey; what exactly did lightdm do?
12:08 DaemonFC; Your project is much too special for "generic" code and "shortcuts", and shouldn't integrate well with anything.
12:08 matey; besides the obvious and primary feature
12:09 matey; Your project is much too special for "generic" code and "shortcuts", and shouldn't integrate well with anything. <- i think they integrated with systemdaddy just fine, but devuan may have found an older version
12:09 DaemonFC; They had this idea of a generic X11 display manager. Unfortunately, it worked out a lot like SDDM which is pretty bad.
12:09 DaemonFC; SDDM is worse though.
12:10 DaemonFC; It doesn't integrate with anything and I think it even has Qt dependencies anyway.
12:10 matey; the bsd version of sddm is called, appropriately enough, BDSM
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12:10 matey; /me made it up
12:10 DaemonFC; True story, there is a museum for BDSM about a block from where I lived in Chicago.
12:10 DaemonFC; It's free on Thursdays.
12:11 matey; hey, i used to live down the street from some *cough* "club" that uh. *cough*
12:11 DaemonFC; Chicago has a city holiday every year to celebrate the museum on BDSM.
12:11 matey; nice!
12:11 TR News; Copyright https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/bungie-loses-on-copyright-claims-against-cheat-seller/ | Source: Techdirt
12:11 TR Bot; Loses On Copyright Claims Against Cheat Seller | Techdirt
12:11 matey; im sure its all tied up in local politics :)
12:11 matey; yuk yuk yuk
12:11 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164451
12:11 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
12:12 DaemonFC; Yeah, they were going to have a safe word but they got distracted by all the shootings and never agreed on one.
12:12 matey; lol
12:12 matey; too bad the economy doesnt have a safe word
12:13 DaemonFC; There was a guy that got gunned down on Monday about a block away from the shop where my Buick is parked at.
12:13 DaemonFC; I hope they get that into the body shop soon. If someone fucks up my car I'm going to be mad.
12:13 DaemonFC; 20 bullets hit the guy's car, but at least it was a BMW and spared the house that's going to have to be around for a while.
12:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
12:14 matey; getting shot might put a bmw out of its misery
12:14 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/03/man-injured-during-shooting-that-left-car-riddled-with-bullets-in-waukegan/
12:14 TR Bot; Man injured during shooting that left car riddled with bullets in Waukegan
12:14 DaemonFC; It adds flair.
12:14 matey; they should do that to reddit too
12:15 DaemonFC; By the time it could possibly rust, it won't matter anyway.
12:15 DaemonFC; BMW puts German steam engines in every car. I'm convinced that they run on steam, at least.
12:15 TR News; Firefox 100 Marks 17 Years of Development with Interesting Upgrades http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33539
12:15 TR Bot; Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux Machines
12:15 matey; lol
12:15 DaemonFC; Once the steam comes out from under the hood, the car doesn't work anymore.
12:15 matey; their owners do
12:15 matey; its like magic smoke except the steamyuppie version
12:16 matey; steamyuppies are like steampunks but they have slightly more expensive taste
12:16 DaemonFC; You can tell it was engineered to fail on schedule. What other reason could there be to make the coolant reservoir two pieces sandwiched together except that the plastic will fatigue at the narrowest point, and then crack?
12:17 matey; they tend to carry around a little dog in a purse, but the purse is made of brown leather with rivets and the dog is wearing black goggles
12:17 DaemonFC; It's like an hourglass. The plastic wears out as the payments go in.
12:17 matey; What other reason could there be to make the coolant reservoir two pieces sandwiched together except that the plastic will fatigue at the narrowest point, and then crack? <- maybe they were hoping on a joint venture with steve jobs
12:17 matey; it sounds like something he would do
12:19 matey; seriously though
12:19 matey; the reason they would do that is it looked less cool somewhere that made sense
12:20 matey; this is what happens when you make cars and computers using the same rules as a designer dress or purse
12:20 TR News; Axzez equips 8 port PoE+ board to their Interceptor Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164452
12:20 TR Bot; Axzez equips 8 port PoE+ board to their Interceptor Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board | Tux Machines
12:20 DaemonFC; Most newer cars look like that. There's absolutely no room between any of the components anymore.
12:21 DaemonFC; Everything is buried under something else.
12:21 matey; but id rather have a road full of bmws than a bunch of sensible cars and one audi, so
12:21 DaemonFC; The whole point is to get the labor hours up on every job so that the owner quickly gives up on it after their first few repair bills.
12:21 matey; Everything is buried under something else. <- like when you have to remove the keyboard to get to a laptop hard drive
12:21 matey; and hooray theres a ribbon cable
12:21 matey; and for some reason
12:22 matey; for some fucking reason
12:22 matey; even though those cables are about half a micron in thickness
12:22 matey; and often folded anyway
12:22 DaemonFC; It's amazing how Barra talked Warren Buffett into a new Cadillac.
12:22 matey; they cant spare the materials to make the length manageable
12:22 DaemonFC; They improved "50" things. Oh wow. I didn't see any.
12:22 matey; they always have to make sure theres no more than 1 mm of slack on them
12:22 DaemonFC; They made the engine half as big and started building the car in Mexico.
12:22 DaemonFC; What are the other 48?
12:23 matey; They made the engine half as big and started building the car in Mexico. <-
12:23 matey; /me pictures a bmw logo that says "nafta" instead
12:24 matey; i know youre talking about a cadillac
12:24 DaemonFC; You can't really improve the fuel economy that much with a smaller engine if you don't want the car to be unresponsive. The whole reason they cut the engines down to four cylinders is to save themselves money on material costs.
12:24 DaemonFC; The fact that the engine will be strained to move the car is just a happy side effect. It'll burn itself out pretty fast and then you're back buying another car.
12:24 matey; its a slippery slope
12:24 TR News; American Dream During Covid https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/homeownership-covid-pandemic/ | Source: The Nation
12:24 TR Bot; Homeownership and the American Dream During Covid | The Nation
12:25 matey; theyll end up with a luxury lada
12:25 matey; its got power windows and steering
12:25 matey; not power steering
12:25 matey; i mean this one you can move the car in directions other than straight ahead
12:26 TR News; "Courthouse News Service, as its name would imply, relies heavily on court documents to create content." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/appeals-court-revives-first-amendment-lawsuit-against-maines-court-system/ | Source: Techdirt
12:26 TR Bot; Court Revives First Amendment Lawsuit Against Maines Court System | Techdirt
12:27 matey; jeremy clarkson could barely contain himself
12:27 matey; i mean thats true in general
12:29 DaemonFC; https://twitter.com/peterwsinger/status/1440326845530992640?lang=en
12:29 TR Bot; The new Space Force uniform A blend of the Star Trek Enterprise dress uniform, but with the Mirror Universe diago https://t.co/hvrpleQHcH
12:29 TR Bot; The new Space Force uniform A blend of the Star Trek Enterprise dress uniform, but with the Mirror Universe diago https://t.co/hvrpleQHcH
12:30 TR News; Musk will kill Twitter, maybe deliberately too https://www.thenation.com/article/society/we-cannot-rely-on-billionaires-to-create-necessary-guardrails-on-social-media/ | Source: The Nation
12:30 TR Bot; We Cannot Rely on Billionaires to Create Necessary Guardrails on Social Media | The Nation
12:30 DaemonFC; Makes you wonder why every dystopian universe or timeline in Star Trek, they're wearing a Sam Brown Belt.
12:30 DaemonFC; When did those become evil and why?
12:30 TR News; "Elon Musks Starlink low-orbit satellite broadband service isnt going to have the impact many think" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/elon-musks-starlink-still-cant-seem-to-answer-basic-customer-support-emails/ | Source: Techdirt
12:30 TR Bot; Musks Starlink Still Cant Seem To Answer Basic Customer Support Emails | Techdirt
12:30 DaemonFC; *Browne
12:31 DaemonFC; Like, are the Royal Canadian Mounted Police going to become the military of the Terran Empire or Confederation of Earth.
12:31 DaemonFC; Or is it the New Jersey State Highway Patrol?
12:32 TR News; "Eight years ago, prompted by the Snowden revelations (and Senator Ron Wydens persistent questions)" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/national-intelligence-report-shows-fbi-warrantlessly-searched-americans-data-millions-of-times-last-year/ | Source: Techdirt
12:32 TR Bot; Intelligence Report Shows FBI Warrantlessly Searched Americans Data Millions Of Times Last Year | Techdirt
12:34 TR News; Microsoft picks the worst ofthr worst https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/02/activisions-plan-to-tackle-cod-online-cheaters-cheat-them-back/ | Source: Techdirt
12:34 TR Bot; Plan To Tackle CoD Online Cheaters: Cheat Them Back | Techdirt
12:34 TR News; SPAM https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/republicans-want-to-make-sure-your-inboxes-are-filled-with-spam-unless-the-spam-filters-block-democrats-emails/ | Source: Techdirt
12:34 TR Bot; Want To Make Sure Your Inboxes Are Filled With Spam (Unless The Spam Filters Block Democrats Emails) | Techdirt
12:35 TR News; Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/indian-government-now-wants-vpns-to-collect-and-turn-over-personal-data-on-users/ | Source: Techdirt
12:35 TR Bot; Government Now Wants VPNs To Collect And Turn Over Personal Data On Users | Techdirt
12:36 TR News; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/new-yorkers-famed-fact-checking-crew-apparently-unaware-of-the-1st-amendment/ | Source: Techdirt
12:36 TR Bot; Yorkers Famed Fact Checking Crew Apparently Unaware Of The 1st Amendment? | Techdirt
12:37 XRevan86; https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-hub-24-is-here/ Nextcloud 24
12:37 TR Bot; Hub 24 is here - Nextcloud
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14:14 MinceR; 04 131523 < DaemonFC> BMW puts German steam engines in every car. I'm convinced that they run on steam, at least.
14:14 MinceR; steam engines would probably be more reliable than their allegedly internal combustion engines
14:14 MinceR; (BMW tends to make them external combustion engines anyway)
14:18 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/new-sophisticated-malware.html
14:18 TR Bot; Sophisticated Malware - Schneier on Security
14:19 TR News; "Over one-third of organizations experienced seven or more impactful cyberattacks in the preceding 12 months, a 10% rise from the previous year." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/insecure-databases/
14:19 TR Bot; Researchers Find Nearly 400,000 Exposed Databases | eSecurityPlanet
14:20 TR News; "Unfortunately, this change resulted in some users no longer being able to use their OpenPGP keys. We learned that the affected users still depend on keys that were created or modified with OpenPGP software that used SHA-1 for the signatures that are part of OpenPGP keys." https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/05/openpgp-keys-and-sha-1/
14:20 TR Bot; OpenPGP keys and SHA-1 The Thunderbird Blog
14:22 TR News; EU Parliaments draft of AI Act: predictive policing is banned, but work remains to protect peoples rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/ai-act-predictive-policing/ Source: accessnow
14:22 TR Bot; EU Parliaments draft of AI Act: predictive policing is banned, but work remains to protect peoples rights - Access Now
14:24 TR News; "you might get a bill for the birth that is $550,000 dollars, and includes a $39.99 surcharge for holding the baby for $1,000." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/with-abortion-and-contraceptives-to-be-curtailed-in-america-the-guardian-says-that-births-outside-of-hospitals-are-up-not-citing-a-reason/
14:24 TR Bot; With abortion and contraceptives to be curtailed in America, The Guardian says that births outside of hospitals are up, not citing a reason. BaronHK's Rants
14:26 TR News; As the day turned we published Part 12 in a series about SaM, the EPOs partner in Belarus; events as recent as 1.5 years ago contribute to the perception that SaM is sympathetic towards Lukashenkos regime (at the higher tiers of the company) http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/deevgate-in-a-nutshell-an-epo-toxic-asset-in-minsk/
14:26 TR Bot; Deevgate in a Nutshell (an EPO Toxic Asset in Minsk) | Techrights
14:40 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164453
14:40 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:41 TR News; Security and Proprietary Traps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164454
14:41 TR Bot; Security and Proprietary Traps | Tux Machines
14:42 psydruid; Schneier is malware unleashed on the internet
14:45 TR News; Trump judge deemed unqualified by the American Bar Association was the one that threw out the face mask mandate. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/trump-judge-deemed-unqualified-by-the-american-bar-association-was-the-one-that-threw-out-the-face-mask-mandate/
14:45 TR Bot; Trump judge deemed unqualified by the American Bar Association was the one that threw out the face mask mandate. BaronHK's Rants
14:49 TR News; Mastodon Basics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164455 Twitter = one boss. Mastodon = one thousand bosses (some above others). Running your own blog, with RSS feeds = you're the boss.
14:49 TR Bot; Mastodon Basics | Tux Machines
14:55 TR News; Pstore, The Linux Kernel Persistent Storage File System https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/pstore-linux-kernel-persistent-storage-file-system
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14:56 TR News; timeline of a successful attack on the most basic tools like: exiftool https://dwaves.de/2022/05/03/heightened-cyber-alarm-levels-timeline-of-a-successful-attack-on-the-most-basic-tools-like-exiftool-possible-mitigations/
14:56 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050156
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14:56 TR News; "Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly." https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-268.html
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15:00 TR News; Create Your Very Own Operating System With Linux From Scratch [Linux] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164456
15:00 TR News; Firefox 100 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33540
15:01 TR News; The real cost of internet shutdowns in South Asia -- Rest of World https://restofworld.org/2022/newsletter-south-asia-the-real-cost-of-internet-shutdowns-in-south-asia/ Source: restofworld
15:02 TR News; "Authoritarian Tech is a weekly newsletter tracking how people in power are abusing technology and what it means for the rest of us. Also in this edition: Mexican court axes biometric mobile registration scheme; Russias quiet cyber war" https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-tiktok-propaganda/
15:02 TR News; IF???? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220503-activists-urge-ad-boycott-if-musk-turns-twitter-toxic
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15:03 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
15:04 TR News; Vegetarians threaten to boycott Tyson if it STARTS selling meat
15:05 TR News; Don't worry, lads. Just stay in Twitter. Just don't condemn the new owner 'too much'.... that alone might be worth the purchase price to him...
15:07 TR News; Melinda Gates: I divorce my husband because of Jeffrey Epstein, whose only 'value' was giving access to underage sex. Corporate media: Gates is divorced over adult relationships. Yeah, gaslight the wife for your SPONSOR Bill...
15:14 TR News; elementary OSelementary OS Updates for April, 2022 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164449#comment-33541
15:15 TR Bot; elementary OS 7 Code Name Revealed. Here are the Details | Tux Machines
15:15 TR News; "The Steam Deck has been a popular launch but it's not been without it's flaws and turns out that a great feature that Valve added to steam worked completely opposite to what it was supposed to do." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5U2bTS4O-5U
15:15 TR Bot; Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads - Invidious
15:16 TR News; "I often hear from users of Windows, Mac and ChromeOS tell me that they are thinking about trying out Linux, but they are not sure if Linux is right for them. Well, let me ask you a question... " https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gIJl_69_a6M
15:16 TR Bot; Do You Want A Cloud Operating System? (SPOILER: I Don't!) - Invidious
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15:24 TR News; BSD Kernel and Linux Kernel Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164457
15:24 TR Bot; BSD Kernel and Linux Kernel | Tux Machines
15:33 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/WF0u13b
15:33 TR Bot; liked the crinkly paper - Album on Imgur
15:33 TR News; Many fools give away far too much personal data about themselves, wrongly assuming corporate and state benevolence https://www.maketecheasier.com/location-data-cdc-track-covid/
15:33 TR Bot; Location Data Used by CDC to Track COVID Compliance - Make Tech Easier
15:35 TR News; Mozilla browser Firefox hits the big 100 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33542
15:35 TR Bot; Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux Machines
15:36 TR News; NXP i.MX RT1180 Cortex-M7/M33 crossover MCU integrates GbE TSN for industrial IoT communication - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/04/nxp-i-mx-rt1180-cortex-m7-m33-crossover-mcu-integrates-gbe-tsn-for-industrial-iot-communication/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
15:36 TR Bot; NXP i.MX RT1180 Cortex-M7/M33 crossover MCU integrates GbE TSN for industrial IoT communication - CNX Software
15:39 TR News; "The problem is that there was nothing illegal about what he did, and a company can even make it a policy that someone of a certain age cant have a job there, so long as they dont discriminate against people over 40." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/in-america-anti-age-discrimination-laws-discriminate-based-on-age/
15:39 TR Bot; In America, anti-age discrimination laws discriminate based on age. BaronHK's Rants
15:42 TR News; Launching Unstable Antenna Test Instance gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-04-launching-unstable-antenna-test-instance.gmi
15:43 TR News; "So many bots, and the ratio of bot vs human traffic is continuing to increase. The same report tells that 29% of all web traffic is just malicious bots, while 23% are benign. The latter of course includes search engine crawlers and feed fetchers, for example." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-04-it-s-bots-all-the-way-down-what-s-an-ad-worth-anyway.gmi
15:44 TR News; HELP, accidentially deleted my capsule gemini://jdj.golf/gemlog/shit.gmi
15:54 TR News; "We happen to have a casino in town, which we've been to a few times this year after a couple year COVID-motivated hiatus, primarily due to some juicy "free money" enticement." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/918
16:11 TR News; Links 03/05/2022: Kubernetes 1.24 and Tor Browser 11.0.11 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/kubernetes-1-24/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/kubernetes-1-24/
16:11 TR Bot; Links 03/05/2022: Kubernetes 1.24 and Tor Browser 11.0.11 | Techrights
16:12 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164458
16:12 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:13 TR News; Videos: Clown Computing and Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164459
16:13 TR Bot; Videos: Clown Computing and Valve Accidently Blocked Steam Deck Downloads | Tux Machines
16:13 TR News; Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164460
16:13 TR Bot; Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 | Tux Machines
16:13 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164461
16:13 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
16:20 TR News; Calamares Future Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164462
16:20 TR Bot; Calamares Future | Tux Machines
16:23 TR News; Linux Lite: A Simple, Fast and Free Linux Lightweight Distro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164463
16:23 TR Bot; Linux Lite: A Simple, Fast and Free Linux Lightweight Distro | Tux Machines
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16:34 TR News; [PULL v3] drm/msm: display pull request for 5.19 - Dmitry Baryshkov https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220501234139.13513-1-dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org/ Source: linaro
16:34 TR Bot; [PULL v3] drm/msm: display pull request for 5.19 - Dmitry Baryshkov
16:34 TR News; Stats Suggest the Steam Deck May Have Influenced an Increase in Linux Gaming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164464
16:34 TR Bot; Stats Suggest the Steam Deck May Have Influenced an Increase in Linux Gaming | Tux Machines
16:36 TR News; KarTrak: How Railroads Got Barcodes First https://tedium.co/2022/05/04/kartrak-railroad-barcode-history/ Source: tedium
16:36 TR Bot; KarTrak: How Railroads Got Barcodes First
16:37 TR News; Proxmox 7.2 "VE" https://www.proxmox.com/en/
16:37 TR Bot; - Powerful open-source server solutions
16:37 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164465
16:37 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:39 TR News; Canonical Kubernetes 1.24 is now generally available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164460#comment-33543
16:39 TR Bot; Cockpit 268.1 and Kubernetes 1.24 | Tux Machines
16:44 TR News; Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164466
16:44 TR Bot; Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 released | Tux Machines
16:54 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050115
16:54 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/a40djifvmiw81.jpg created on 2022-05-01 04:46:26.212399
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17:03 TR News; "SpaceVim is great - I had planned on writing an entire post on the batteries-attached, sensible defaults value prop of software like SpaceVim or Rails. Alas, that post hasn't yet materialized. Until then, just know that getting up and running with SpaceVim has been a delight, and I appreciate an opinionated entryway into vim." gemini://dogbeach.club/blog/030922-playing-catchup.gmi
17:04 TR News; https://jcoterhals.medium.com/basic-and-the-roms-that-changed-the-world-and-then-disappeared-38318db4611c
17:04 TR Bot; BASIC and the ROMs that changed the world (and then disappeared) | by Jo Christian Oterhals | May, 2022 | Medium
17:04 TR News; BASIC and the ROMs that changed the world (and then disappeared) | by Jo Christian Oterhals https://jcoterhals.medium.com/basic-and-the-roms-that-changed-the-world-and-then-disappeared-38318db4611c
17:05 TR News; "Hokey religions and ancient weapons might not be a match for a good blaster, but Arduino Star Wars projects certainly are. To celebrate May the 4th (also known as Star Wars Day), weve put together a list of inspired builds from a galaxy far, far away that you can make yourself." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/04/the-force-is-strong-with-these-arduino-star-wars-projects/
17:05 TR Bot; Check out these top 10 amazing Star Wars projects built with Arduino
17:06 TR News; Take things up a notch by turning the humble OLED into a rotary dial | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/03/take-things-up-a-notch-by-turning-the-humble-oled-into-a-rotary-dial/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
17:06 TR Bot; Take things up a notch by turning the humble OLED into a rotary dial | Arduino Blog
17:07 TR News; [PATCH v2 0/4] Apple SoC cpufreq driver - Hector Martin https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220504075153.185208-1-marcan@marcan.st/ Source: marcan
17:07 TR Bot; [PATCH v2 0/4] Apple SoC cpufreq driver - Hector Martin
17:08 TR News; "Change proposal: Deprecate Legacy BIOS https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2780 REJECTED (+8, 0, -0)" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KCJCEQMHITAQUW4SMWU3AXIPZ65GSDSU/ http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
17:08 TR Bot; #2780: Change proposal: Deprecate Legacy BIOS - fesco - Pagure.io
17:08 TR Bot; Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-05-03) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
17:08 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
17:10 TR News; EU Declaration of Digital Rights & Principles: Free Software included by European Parliament Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164467
17:10 TR Bot; EU Declaration of Digital Rights & Principles: Free Software included by European Parliament | Tux Machines
17:12 TR News; "Automation is a hot topic right now." Not really. This is what computing was all about, always. But now the media props up buzzwords instead of substance, inc. clown, transformation and Hey Hi https://opensource.com/article/22/5/zerotier-network
17:12 TR Bot; I manage my own virtual network with ZeroTier | Opensource.com
17:14 TR News; It was not an issue unless you had installed dodgy, malicious software and then updated it to get a MORE malicious version https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/pixel-6-finally-getting-a-dirty-pipe-patch-one-month-after-the-galaxy-s22/
17:14 TR Bot; Pixel 6 finally getting a Dirty Pipe patch, one month after the Galaxy S22 | Ars Technica
17:16 TR News; Making a huge deal out of privilege escalation while there are many remotely-exploitable zero-days in Windows and other proprietary platforms https://9to5google.com/2022/05/03/dirty-pipe-major-exploit-android-12-pixel-6-galaxy-s22/
17:16 TR Bot; Pipe: Pixel 6 & Galaxy S22 affected by major exploit - 9to5Google
17:20 TR News; "The lies of the American system of government exposed by the Supreme Courts abortion draft ruling. Im not in favor of unrestricted abortion, but the way the US Supreme Court operates is the most terrifying thing about living in America today." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/03/the-lies-of-the-american-system-of-government-exposed-by-the-supreme-courts-abortion-draft-ruling/
17:20 TR Bot; The lies of the American system of government exposed by the Supreme Courts abortion draft ruling. BaronHK's Rants
17:21 TR News; The "smart" "phone" was always a liability with few practical benefit (easily outweighed by the liabilities) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/location-tracking-company-selling-data-on-smartphone-users-who-visit-abortion-clinics/
17:21 TR Bot; Location tracking company selling data on smartphone users who visit abortion clinics. BaronHK's Rants
17:22 TR News; "The nonfree app Along, developed by a company controlled by Zuckerberg, leads students to reveal to their teacher personal information about themselves and their families. Conversations are recorded and the collected data sent to the company, which grants itself the right to sell it." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10168
17:22 TR Bot; GNU Education - News: Along: an app to collect students' data for marketing purposes [Savannah]
17:23 TR News; "The Along app invites teachers to record personal questions on video and ask the student to respond with an audio or video recording. Through this process, the app systematically guides teachers to ask students about matters of interest for Facebook and other profilers" https://www.gnu.org/education/educational-malware-app-along.html
17:23 TR Bot; Educational Malware App Along - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
17:33 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164468
17:33 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
17:34 TR News; "The Eiffel tower has 3 floors that you can visit. If you have the chance, DO IT! I" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/04/europe-trip-journal-entry-1-vertigo/
17:34 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 1: Vertigo vanitasvitae's blog
17:35 schestowitz; LOL
17:35 schestowitz; "
17:35 schestowitz; Last night I learned that its possible to wish death upon a stranger you dont even know.
17:35 schestowitz; At first I thought Id be the only guest in the 4-bed room I booked a bed in. I intended to go to sleep so that Id get a healthy 8 hours of sleep. However, the place being a youth hostel, a group of kids kept running across the hallway, keeping me up. But hey, no hard feelings. At roughly 1:30 or so another guest arrived. He did not talk much and quickly went to bed. And then the snoring began
17:35 schestowitz; As if that was not enough, another guest arrived banging the door since his card didnt work and took the bed above mine. Apparently he could not sleep either due to the snoring, so at some point when I barely managed to drift away, he stood up and left the room for half an hour or so, leaving his light on and the room illuminated.
17:35 schestowitz; "
17:36 TR News; No more Windows. "File management software maker Peer Software plans to launch Linux file server compatibility this summer, along with enhanced artificial intelligence/machine learning (AI/ML)-based file access anomaly detection and storage audits." https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252516669/PeerGFS-adds-AI-ML-anomaly-detection-to-distributed-file-system
17:36 TR Bot; PeerGFS adds AI/ML anomaly detection to distributed file system product
17:37 TR News; Tachyum Prodigy FPGA Running Applications in Linux Interactive Mode https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/05/b26964632/tachyum-prodigy-fpga-running-applications-in-linux-interactive-mode
17:37 TR Bot; Prodigy FPGA Running Applications in Linux Interactive Mode - Benzinga
17:38 TR News; scrcpy compiled in OpenEmbedded https://bkhome.org/news/202205/scrcpy-compiled-in-openembedded.html
17:38 TR Bot; scrcpy compiled in OpenEmbedded
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17:39 TR News; "As a consequence of my doing Debian development but running Debian stable everywhere, I accumulate a number of tweaks like this one over the course of each Debian stable release." https://spwhitton.name//blog/entry/for-bullseye/
17:39 TR Bot; for-bullseye
17:40 TR News; Did the xubuntu site suffer a breach? Some spam was submitted into its blog/news... then removed.
17:41 TR News; "Stackedit is a free, open-source web-based Markdown editor that comes with many useful features for web writers." https://medevel.com/dir/stackedit-markdown/ Apache License
17:41 TR Bot; Stackedit is a browser-based Markdown editor
17:42 TR News; "ASCIIFlow is a client-side only web based application for drawing ASCII diagrams. You can use it at asciiflow.com." https://medevel.com/dir/asciiflow/
17:42 TR Bot; ASCIIFlow is a web-based ASCII diagram editor
17:45 TR News; 1980s: let's move all the programs to the GUI, for GUI's sake. 1990s: let's move all the programs to the OS, complete with holes. 2000+: let's move all the programs to the browser because "ajax" etc. 2020+: let's outsource everything to spies (clown computing) due to media hype (pressure/shaming/buzzwords).
17:47 TR News; Cargo cults are for the weak, who lack character, identity and cannot form their own judgments. Or reject marketing bullies. Like kids who join gangs to feel "Strong" (be used).
17:49 TR News; The last week which for which data on deaths with COVID-19 is on the death certificate (22-04-2022) is the HIGHEST since winter https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
17:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom )
17:51 TR News; Don't be misled by media counting COVID-19 cases. The TESTING level is now lowest since 2020. We're just blinding ourselves to the issue. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
17:51 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom )
17:53 bnchs; 403 status lol
17:53 bnchs; are sites starting to block you?
17:54 TR News; All this home assistants/automation/"smart home" BS is a whole lots of FOMO. You're meant to think you're "behind" if you don't boobytrap your home with spying junk while draining your wallet (these gadgets do not last long, either)
17:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe they block a lot of bots, bnchs
17:55 schestowitz-TR; it does not matter if the human visitor can access it OK
17:55 schestowitz-TR; page title it not so meaningful, there are many section to these pages, which are JS mess
17:55 schestowitz-TR; *sections
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17:55 schestowitz-TR; our gov. is gradually abandoning this portalk
17:55 schestowitz-TR; it's "bad for business..."
17:55 SomeH4x0r; hi bnchs__
17:56 bnchs__; hey
17:56 SomeH4x0r; still seeing no players on UplinkIRC, though had a chat with a regular
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17:58 Ariadne; https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/4/23056799/github-contributors-2fa-two-factor-authentication-2023
17:58 TR Bot; GitHub will require all code contributors to use two-factor authentication - The Verge
17:58 TR News; Educational Malware App Along | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/
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17:58 TR Bot; Educational Malware App Along | Techrights
17:58 Ariadne; i wish github would have the balls to say "2fa required in 90 days"
17:58 matey; /me reads a large percentage of websites with a text editor
17:58 Ariadne; this 2024 thing is lame
17:58 bnchs__; Ariadne, 2fa is bullshit
17:58 bnchs__; maybe make it optional
17:58 Ariadne; bnchs__: depends on what 2FA is. WebAuthn is not bullshit
17:59 bnchs__; but not required
17:59 matey; websites are more and more like ipod playlists
17:59 bnchs__; yes
17:59 matey; people still make them, so things are in a certain order
17:59 *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
17:59 matey; but shuffle is king
17:59 matey; so when i go to a website, usually its one page
17:59 Ariadne; you can download FOSS security token software and schematics for libre security keys
17:59 bnchs__; 2FA is a vague term
18:00 bnchs__; it depends on what implementation they're gonna use
18:00 matey; 2 fucking annoying
18:00 Ariadne; to be clear, i think that serious maintainers should have something like a yubikey (or the FOSS one that i can't think of atm)
18:01 Ariadne; maintainers should not be using password auth to distribute their software, it is too easy for a bad actor to fuck with
18:01 bnchs__; maybe use SSH keys
18:01 bnchs__; or sign their commits with PGP
18:01 Ariadne; if it is the 2FA that is "we send you an SMS", that's obviously bullshit
18:02 Ariadne; you can sign commits with SSH now
18:02 matey; sms is like fort knox, sms is impenetrable
18:03 matey; i just got one from george washington, i think he would know if it wasnt safe
18:03 Ariadne; the GNU project used to be ahead of the curve on stuff like that, but in recent years, things like commit signing and even signed tarballs have become inconsistent in GNU deliverables
18:03 bnchs__; there's only a few TOTP 2FA apps for mobile devices
18:03 bnchs__; the rest is proprietary shit
18:03 matey; join us now and help us sabotage our own software
18:03 bnchs__; a few free TOTP 2FA apps for mobile devices*
18:04 Ariadne; i use the one redhat makes, freeotp
18:04 Ariadne; or whatever it is called
18:04 SomeH4x0r; Google Authenticator was free, but is no longer
18:04 bnchs__; google auth is proprietary though
18:04 SomeH4x0r; make a thing popular, then close it
18:04 bnchs__; when i mean free, i mean free as in freedom
18:05 SomeH4x0r; iirc it used to be under Apache license
18:05 Ariadne; one thing i've learned about on android devices is that you can plug a yubikey into them
18:05 Ariadne; it "just works"
18:05 matey; i think openbsd supports it too
18:05 Ariadne; well yeah on desktop it is easy
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18:06 bnchs__; didn't yubikey get tivoized
18:06 Ariadne; there's a libre one
18:06 Ariadne; i can't remember the name of it
18:06 Ariadne; i just buy yubikeys because i can have them same day delivered on amazon prime
18:07 matey; libreswan?
18:07 SomeH4x0r; YubiKey is an evil device by design
18:08 SomeH4x0r; "physical security"
18:08 SomeH4x0r; trash it
18:08 bnchs__; whats the point of it if it's gonna be proprietary
18:09 matey; this fucker is hard to find
18:09 matey; librem has a key but
18:09 matey; im sure its not that one
18:09 bnchs__; "we, as a product company, have taken a clear stand against implementations based on off-the-shelf components and further believe that something like a commercial-grade AVR or ARM controller is unfit to be used in a security product"
18:10 bnchs__; so becau
18:10 matey; as a bullshit company
18:10 bnchs__; they went proprietary because they went greedy
18:10 matey; profit over security
18:10 SomeH4x0r; big companies become evil
18:10 Ariadne; nitrokey
18:10 Ariadne; that's the one
18:10 SomeH4x0r; don't let your friends grow big
18:11 matey; Nitrokey is an open-source USB key used to enable the secure encryption and signing of data. The secret keys are always stored inside the Nitrokey which protects against malware and attackers. A user-chosen PIN and a tamper-proof smart card protect the Nitrokey in case of loss and theft. The hardware and software of Nitrokey are open-source. The free software and open hardware enables independent parties to verify the security of the device.
18:12 bnchs__; if you can flash your own firmware into the USB key
18:12 bnchs__; then that would be great
18:12 matey; /me refuses to use it unless it supports sixels
18:12 bnchs__; the active low meme
18:13 matey; though you should never send your private key to /dev/lp0 because its not a secure channel
18:13 matey; it might get leaked onto paper by your epson 9 pin
18:14 bnchs__; i would definitely trust a tivoizated, proprietary USB key with my private PGP key
18:15 bnchs__; yubico is another example of what happens when you go big
18:16 matey; power corrupts
18:16 Ariadne; bnchs__: yes you can flash your own firmware onto nitrokey
18:16 bnchs__; well that's great
18:17 Ariadne; though i think the secure element is wiped every time you flash a new firmware
18:17 Ariadne; so you would need to reenroll your keys
18:17 Ariadne; (the rationale behind this is antitampering and it makes sense)
18:17 bnchs__; i can understand why
18:17 matey; perfect sense
18:18 matey; otherwise you could just install something else to read it
18:18 matey; "now its a usb keyboard. wait, let me type the keys in for you"
18:19 Ariadne; the yubikey has a usb keyboard mode where it will type in random data if you touch it
18:19 Ariadne; which is annoying
18:19 Ariadne; thankfully, the nitrokey does not have this "feature"
18:21 matey; registering itself as an input device is probably annoying too
18:21 *psydroid2 grabs hammer and sixel
18:21 TR News; Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid-test-case-ratio/
18:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading
18:22 bnchs__; Ariadne, why would it do that
18:22 bnchs__; entropy?
18:22 matey; forward, to 8bit colour!
18:22 TR News; "Through this process, the app systematically guides teachers to ask students about matters of interest for Facebook and other profilers that would be willing to buy the resulting data." http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/fsf-on-app-along/
18:22 TR Bot; Educational Malware App Along | Techrights
18:23 bnchs__; to the sixel-mobile!
18:23 Ariadne; bnchs__: it's some integrated OTP thing
18:23 bnchs__; so basically nothing but annoying
18:25 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/intuit-to-pay-141m-settlement-over-free-turbotax-ads-heres-who-is-eligible/
↺ https://wgntv.com/news/intuit-to-pay-141m-settlement-over-free-turbotax-ads-heres-who-is-eligible/
18:25 TR Bot; Intuit to pay $141M settlement over free TurboTax ads, heres who is eligible | WGN-TV
18:25 DaemonFC; I replied: Intuit is one of the companies lobbying to prevent the IRS from automatically telling you what your tax bill is, sending you one form to sign (and if it was wrong, you'd tell them why and show your work, which would be no worse than filing taxes is now).
18:25 DaemonFC; The IRS already knows everything except possibly some very small amounts of income that are below the reporting threshold. Every bank interest form, most "buttcoin" pretend money Capital Gains, you name it. If they get information and you don't disclose it, you can be in serious trouble.
18:25 DaemonFC; So right now, thanks to H&R Block and Intuit and a few others, you have to HOPE you get every form you need that the IRS already knows about (because they get them electronically), report it all, and that you've done your math right, or else it will result in an income mismatch and it's up to the IRS what they want to do about it. AND you get to pay TurboTax or H&R Block or someone for the right to use their software, AND if you get a
18:25 DaemonFC; calculation wrong and it results in an overpayment to the IRS or state they might just never tell you and keep it.
18:28 matey; "we make your life easier, so if it gets easier without our help we have to stop that"
18:29 matey; red hat had a similar ethic
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18:30 matey; they should have bought intuit
18:30 matey; then instead of controlling just gcc and all your daemons they could be in charge of your taxes as well
18:31 matey; systemd-taxformd
18:31 matey; /me waits for systemd to integrate its own compiler in pid 1
18:32 bnchs__; systemd-compilerd
18:32 bnchs__; to compile your systemd
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18:32 matey; then when it takes 45 minutes to shut down at least you know its doing something useful
18:32 *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@jubkat3igexrk.irc) has joined #techrights
18:32 bnchs__; i search "systemd is an OS"
18:32 bnchs__; i get techrights on the third result
18:33 bnchs__; nobody is talking about it
18:33 matey; oh which article
18:33 bnchs__; http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/systemd-os/
18:33 TR Bot; Systemd Has Become (Almost) an Operating System | Techrights
18:34 matey; lol
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18:37 TR News; Fewer than 50 million Brits got a second shot of 'fake' COVID-19, which means that almost 20 millions have not. But our government brags about figures like "92.5%" -- a misleading peer pressure tactic
18:38 bnchs__; "the NSA spends $250 million per year to insert backdoors in software and hardware as part of the Bullrun program"
18:38 matey; ripping you off sp they can rip you a new one
18:38 matey; i wish they would hang already
18:38 bnchs__; so help me god i'll tear you a new one
18:38 bnchs__; bigger than the grand canyon
18:39 matey; their families should disown them
18:39 TR News; It's beyond provable and demonstrable that what kills off COVID-19 (but not eradicates it) is social distancing. Masks help too when many wear them as aerosols/droplets is how it passes.
18:39 bnchs__; i'm thinking about the U.S. army esports thing
18:40 matey; every security tech company should have one by the entrance on a spike
18:41 matey; worthless traitors
18:42 bnchs__; "hoo, when i think of all my hard earned tax dollars, going to pay a bunch of little twig-boys playing vidya games"
18:42 bnchs__; "it just makes me wanna..."
18:42 matey; lol
18:44 bnchs__; https://recruiting.army.mil/army_esports/
18:44 TR Bot; U.S. Army Esports Team
18:44 bnchs__; recruiting
18:44 bnchs__; but not recruiting
18:44 TR News; CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/cisa-adds-five-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog 40% are APPLE and 40% are Microsoft, but CIA is omitting that because it does not wish to admonish proprietary stuff with NSA back doors?
18:44 TR Bot; CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
18:44 matey; i thought that was a typo for exports
18:45 schestowitz-TR; *CISA
18:45 psydroid2; https://m.interglot.com/nl/en/ronselen
18:45 TR Bot; Translate 'ronselen' from Dutch to English
18:45 InxI; https://goarmysof.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
18:45 TR Bot; Account Suspended
18:45 TR News; YaST Development Report - Chapter 3 of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164469
18:45 TR Bot; YaST Development Report - Chapter 3 of 2022 | Tux Machines
18:46 psydroid2; "to shanghai" or "to crimp"
18:46 psydroid2; recruiting sounds so polite
18:47 InxI; the russian use conscripts
18:47 bnchs__; 2022: your tax dollars goes to us army's fortnite team
18:47 bnchs__; to recruit young kids
18:47 TR News; What is the Matrix Protocol and #HowTo Install It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164470
18:47 TR Bot; What is the Matrix Protocol and How to Install It | Tux Machines
18:47 psydroid2; "you're going to join the army or we're going to kill your squirrel"
18:47 TR News; Microbell helping Microsoft openwashing campaigns again. I suppose he doesn't like his audience and doesn't want reader anymore.
18:47 InxI; the chinese use esports bot teams
18:48 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FqJwD35wWhY
18:48 TR Bot; Operation Get Behind The Darkies - Invidious
18:49 bnchs__; people are complaining about their tax money being wasted
18:49 bnchs__; but nobody talks about the hololens thing
18:49 bnchs__; or this garbage
18:49 schestowitz-TR; it's theft
18:49 schestowitz-TR; it's microsoft crime
18:49 schestowitz-TR; they call crime "business
18:50 schestowitz-TR; and say they fight crime
18:50 matey; people talk about whats in the news
18:50 schestowitz-TR; the criminals love saying things like things
18:50 matey; bill gtes buys the news
18:50 schestowitz-TR; projection tactics
18:50 matey; thats that then
18:50 bnchs__; https://nitter.net/USArmyesports
18:50 TR Bot; U.S. Army Esports (@USArmyesports) | nitter
18:50 bnchs__; their twitter is full of the most cringiest shit i ever seen
18:50 bnchs__; they're trying to be hip with the kids with memes
18:50 matey; USArmy, thats really clever
18:51 matey; because united states army is a recursive acronym for "die for corporations"
18:51 InxI; BRHOOAH
18:51 matey; with apologies to ryan
18:51 TR News; At risk of sounding repetitive, Microsoft is organised crime disguised as a legitimate software business http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
18:51 TR Bot; Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
18:52 TR News; Security Patches, Linux FUD, and Apple and Microsoft as the Real Danger/Culprits Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164471
18:52 TR Bot; Security Patches, Linux FUD, and Apple and Microsoft as the Real Danger/Culprits | Tux Machines
18:52 bnchs__; "i got PTSD and lost both of legs in vietnam war"
18:52 bnchs__; "ok boomer lol hahahaha"
18:52 matey; oof
18:52 InxI; YOLO
18:53 schestowitz-TR; "what did we win?"
18:53 schestowitz-TR; saigon become hon chi ming or whaqtever
18:53 schestowitz-TR; like fighting taliban for over 20 years and 'losing'
18:54 schestowitz-TR; scare quotes
18:54 schestowitz-TR; because many corporations won
18:54 schestowitz-TR; trillions in graft
18:54 psydroid2; Microbell has matured and is looking for a more mature and more professional audience now
18:54 psydroid2; the one Gates and Epstein were experts in
18:55 TR News; Linux New Media Launches Free Software JobHub https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-New-Media-Launches-Open-Source-JobHub
18:55 TR Bot; Linux New Media Launches Open Source JobHub Linux Magazine
18:56 SomeH4x0r; PulseAudio went crazy again. Is it possible to fix it?
18:56 SomeH4x0r; setting sound to 74% when I plug/unplug earphones
18:56 SomeH4x0r; fixable by reboot, but is there other way?
18:57 psydroid2; PulseAudio is unfixable
18:57 TR News; Microsoft media operative (Tung) spreads FUD, site called "linuxsecurity" repeats it again; it's equally problematic in proprietary and you CANNOT even audit it. BONUS: this kind of malware is typically transmitted BY MICROSOFT https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-projects/open-source-security-it-s-too-easy-to-upload-devastating-malicious-packages-warns-google
18:57 psydroid2; that's why they wrote Pipewire
18:57 TR Bot; Open-source security: It's too easy to upload 'devastating' malicio...
18:57 psydroid2; to introduce new bugs and fixes
18:58 InxI; i need to keep pulse mixer open all the time so not yo get bruuuuuh noise
18:58 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vb5rHthCXoAi have mixed feelings on the onions portrayal of autists but that one is brilliant
18:58 TR Bot; Four American Troops Tragically Killed Along With 23 Afghanis - Invidious
18:58 TR News; ICBM is a fossil, living off its long past as the brand rots away https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/ibm_power_i_7_5/
18:58 TR Bot; IBM outlines update to i OS for Power servers The Register
18:58 matey; i need to keep pulse mixer open all the time so not yo get bruuuuuh noise <- theres a fix for that
18:58 InxI; how?
18:58 matey; install openbsd
18:58 InxI; piss off
18:59 InxI; the card must be going into powersave
19:00 TR News; Microsoft just bought some influence, as usual http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164307#comment-33544
19:00 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Takes More Microsoft Money and Does Openwashing | Tux Machines
19:00 SomeH4x0r; stopped pipewire
19:00 bnchs__; matey: i have openbsd in a CD
19:00 InxI; i have no such issue on windows
19:01 bnchs__; can't say the same for most GNU/Linux distributions
19:01 *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
19:01 matey; i have no such issue on windows <- no, windows has its own mountain of problems
19:01 bnchs__; they're so bloated that they can't fit in a CD
19:01 *psydroid2 prefers dealing with sndio
19:01 TR News; Zemlin sells influence, seats, and lies to/for Microsoft. He's an enemy of civilisation, abetting crime for personal gain. http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/
19:01 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
19:01 matey; windows sucking arse was my idea
19:02 psydroid2; you deserve all the credit for that
19:02 bnchs__; openbsd is good
19:02 matey; "rounding up jews with punched cards was my idea"-- ibm
19:02 bnchs__; i mean i did manage to install it
19:03 matey; <psydroid2> you deserve all the credit for that <- i cant, they were very helpful
19:03 TR News; Microsoft: let's toss some fossilised trash from 27 years ago into PROPRIETARY ShitHub, which we control, and call that "open". That shit is twice as old as girls that Jeffrey Epstein sells access to...
19:04 InxI; isnt Jeffrey Epstein like dead?
19:04 TR News; Microsoft has successfully turned "Open Source" into a satirical term.
19:04 bnchs__; maybe
19:04 bnchs__; but all the celebrites went to him
19:04 schestowitz-TR; leah: well, he's dead
19:04 schestowitz-TR; oops
19:04 schestowitz-TR; @ ln
19:05 schestowitz-TR; InxI:
19:05 schestowitz-TR; it looked like an L to me
19:05 InxI; changr fonts
19:05 InxI; change your fonts
19:05 TR News; GREAT news. LESS consumption. Now we're getting somewhere! https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/logitech_sales_plunge_20_in/
19:05 TR Bot; Logitech sales plunge 20% in wake of slowing PC demand The Register
19:06 bnchs__; monospace fonts emphanize I and L
19:06 InxI; ima gona register googIe.com domain
19:07 InxI; some one already did
19:07 matey; try my googie googie
19:08 matey; epstein didnt kill himself, but i think blackmailing the rich and powerful with sex scandals probably helped him get killed
19:08 TR News; 5G really IS a problem https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/faa_5g_altimeters/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/27/fact-based-5g-criticism/
19:08 TR Bot; FAA tells airlines to replace 5G-sensitive altimeters The Register
19:09 TR Bot; What Real (Fact-Based) 5G and Privacy Issues the Media Casually Distracts From | Techrights
19:09 matey; "guns dont kill people... but i think the gun helps"-- eddie izzard
19:09 matey; "you have to have a pretty dodgy heart for someone to just walk up to you and go 'BANG!'"
19:10 TR News; Tails 5.0 Most Secure Linux Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164428#comment-33545
19:10 TR Bot; Tails 5.0 Anonymous OS Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
19:11 TR News; Both Unity and Trinity desktops get new releases Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164472
19:11 TR Bot; Both Unity and Trinity desktops get new releases | Tux Machines
19:12 bnchs__; can you make a VR device
19:12 bnchs__; with free drivers
19:12 TR News; These companies should become extinct. They're a disservice which abuses both drivers and passengers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/chinese_ridehailing_company_didi_global/
19:12 TR Bot; Didi Global reveals it is under SEC investigation The Register
19:13 bnchs__; fuck that's a bad question
19:13 matey; ah vr
19:13 bnchs__; you can already recycle a phone as a VR headst
19:13 matey; finally a way to exfiltrate data from someones head on the cheap
19:13 InxI; how to get cardboard working with games?
19:13 bnchs__; all you need is the hands
19:13 bnchs__; the fucking hands
19:13 matey; really its not that kind of game
19:13 bnchs__; i would rather wear an entire motion capture suit
19:14 bnchs__; and a headset
19:14 InxI; VR is the new sexy thing
19:14 matey; its not new
19:14 TR News; Phoronix 2022: Microsoft apologist. Not interest. DO NOT WANT.
19:14 InxI; its *NEW*
19:14 matey; neither is the cloud
19:14 schestowitz-TR; metaclown
19:14 matey; oh well if you add asterisks, it becomes true
19:15 psydroid2; the cloud is a new of doing old things
19:15 psydroid2; it's where companies go to die
19:15 InxI; its whatever the markting people tell you it is
19:15 matey; killer clown
19:15 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: like where many companies I work/ed with go
19:15 schestowitz-TR; the clown
19:15 schestowitz-TR; outsourcing
19:15 schestowitz-TR; then the costs go up and kill them
19:16 schestowitz-TR; yet worse, many clowns
19:16 schestowitz-TR; a) lose data
19:16 psydroid2; it's natural selection at its finest
19:16 schestowitz-TR; b) shut down
19:16 schestowitz-TR; google plus
19:16 schestowitz-TR; join diaspora
19:16 schestowitz-TR; twitter fb (Musk Zuck): IN PROGRESS
19:16 matey; roy wants to work at home, but not in the metaverse
19:17 psydroid2; new way*
19:17 schestowitz-TR; it's hard to think of ANY online "hosting" service that lasted 20 years
19:17 schestowitz-TR; thanks to Microsoft, not even Geocities lasted that long
19:17 schestowitz-TR; they killed Yahoo! to steal some search share
19:17 InxI; Musk wnat polititians to pay foe tweets XD
19:17 schestowitz-TR; now they have a "privacy" (fake) proxy, DDG
19:17 psydroid2; politwitter
19:17 schestowitz-TR; InxI: let him
19:18 schestowitz-TR; he'll kill Twitter faster
19:18 InxI; what a way to shoot him self in the foot
19:18 matey; he has feet to spare
19:18 matey; he can replace them with self-driving wheels
19:18 InxI; musk already is an expert at that
19:18 schestowitz-TR; he can buy a new foot
19:18 schestowitz-TR; he keeps buying new hair
19:19 matey; the new tesla foot
19:19 matey; it knows where you want to go, so you dont have to
19:19 matey; "hi elon, on the way to work?"
19:19 matey; "i dont know, ill send you a tweet when i get there"
19:19 InxI; musk is aiming to be the worlds global leadr
19:20 matey; elon musk is an upper class tweet
19:20 TR News; OH L@@@@K!!! HEY HI !!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI META META META https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/meta_releases_code_for_175billion/ the core product is dying, so they're faking it...
19:20 TR Bot; Meta releases code for language model to AI researchers The Register
19:20 matey; self-driving government?
19:21 matey; worse than it sounds
19:21 schestowitz-TR; matey: rapson creek?
19:22 InxI; i bet twitter warned him about is tweets so he bought them off just to show then who is the boss
19:22 matey; im sure theres plenty of examples
19:22 matey; i bet twitter warned him about is tweets <- i bet they have a setting that doesnt do exactly that
19:23 InxI; the only fair and uncorrptef form of govermenant is the AI governmjent
19:23 matey; yes, it will maximise unfairness and corruption so it deserves its own version of those words
19:24 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGB7yTZEZE4
19:24 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=hGB7yTZEZE4
19:24 matey; it will replace injustice and corruption with artificial injustice and artificial corruption
19:24 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Betty Hutton sings "You Can't Get A Man With A Gun" - Invidious
19:24 matey; a bit like synthetic oil replaces organic oil
19:24 matey; then injustice and corruption will be more efficient than ever before
19:24 InxI; the algo will br open source and a proved by a foundation
19:24 InxI; no more biased laws
19:25 matey; and the foundation of course, wont be corrupt, because the ai that watches the foundations isnt the same one that the foundation produces
19:25 InxI; th eonly true and fair form of goverment
19:25 matey; anyone who thinks biased corrupt people will implement an unbiased uncorruptable ai is fucking high
19:25 TR News; With sanctions, the entire world is worse off https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/russian_counter_sanctions/
19:25 TR Bot; Putin threatens supply chains with counter-sanction order The Register
19:25 matey; the only fair form of government is none at all
19:26 InxI; LOL
19:26 matey; keep learning
19:26 matey; or you know, start
19:26 InxI; fair for musk
19:26 *matey has quit (connection closed)
19:27 bnchs__; altlink hasn't come back for a day or 2
19:27 InxI; the only fair form of government is none at all <- who is that supposed to work?
19:27 InxI; how
19:28 InxI; thats exactlly how musk ill become the boss of thew world
19:29 TR News; LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 False dichtomy? CLOWN versus CLOWN. Have you tried using... like... you own goddmman server? https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/aws_amd_intel/
19:29 TR Bot; Using newer virtual machines can drive down cloud costs The Register
19:30 InxI; the AI is not a government in the sense it doesn't dictate policies
19:31 TR News; Choice between clowns (cloud computing) is like choosing whether to use the toilet of the neighbour to your left of the neighbour to your right. Get you own shitty toilet.
19:31 SomeH4x0r; SkywaveC3: keyword ping
19:31 InxI; it just issues guidelines that you will follow freewillingllly because they are fair based in sci9ence and make sence
19:32 TR News; LOL "Google Cloud AI"... I do gulag clown... hey hi! Welcome to ma circus, ma dear! have a seat! https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/galileo_ml_error_detection/
19:32 TR Bot; Google, Uber alumni launch ML error-detection platform The Register
19:33 InxI; THE ai IS THE MOST INTELIGENT BEING IN THE WORLD
19:33 *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights
19:33 TR News; The high-tech industry is rapidly becoming self-satirising pile of steaming crap. You have to be miserable to actually want to work in it (IIRC, 90% of people in software hate their job, based on polls).
19:34 InxI; so you would better to do has it says event if at 1st it doesnt makes sense
19:35 TR News; I have magnetic drives that have lasted this long https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/samsung_endurance_sc_cards/
19:35 TR Bot; Samsung unveils hardened SD card that can survive 16 years The Register
19:35 InxI; anly an AI can see the bigger picture
19:35 InxI; and at the same time the finer details
19:36 InxI; no human cant match it
19:36 TR News; "Modern" "progress": make stuff that increases sales by breaking down often, fast. "Legacy": stuff made to last long. Nowadays business "success" is the former, the latter is just "not good for business" (whose?)
19:36 InxI; its orders of magnitudes smarter
19:36 bnchs__; like the lightbulb cartel
19:36 bnchs__; they make things intentionally short
19:36 bnchs__; short on lifespan
19:37 schestowitz-TR; within years the bulb exceed in cost the price of the lamp+housing
19:37 schestowitz-TR; you can get long-lasting ones
19:37 schestowitz-TR; but they are super expensive
19:37 InxI; the AI is in essence GOD materialized
19:37 schestowitz-TR; like x10 more than the 'disposables'
19:38 TR News; It was not an issue unless you had installed dodgy, malicious software and then updated it to get a more malicious version https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/explained-what-is-dirty-pipe-and-how-it-can-affect-some-android-phones/articleshow/91321668.cms
19:38 TR Bot; dirty pipe: Explained: What is Dirty Pipe and how it can affect some Android phones - Times of India
19:38 *SkywaveC3 is now known as Skywave
19:38 bnchs__; india times: dirty pipe
19:39 bnchs__; i know india is poor, but dirty pipes
19:39 MinceR; dirty sanchez
19:39 TR News; Load Cell with Arduino Uno Using HX711 Amplification https://peppe8o.com/load-cell-with-arduino-uno-using-hx711-amplification/ Source: peppe8o
19:39 TR Bot; Load Cell with Arduino Uno Using HX711 Amplification
19:39 Skywave; InxI, what do you think about IA?
19:39 bnchs__; they should get a plumber to fix those dirty pipes
19:39 Skywave; i want a global FOSS AGI technocracy.
19:40 InxI; whats IA?
19:40 bnchs__; internet archive
19:40 schestowitz-TR; beat me to it
19:40 Skywave; open source is enforced by law, decentralized-distributed algocracies everywhere, a resource-based economy, proprietary-anything is a crime against humanity punished by putting one's brain in a vat.
19:40 Skywave; Intelligence Amplification.
19:40 Skywave; the backdoor to Artificial General Intelligence.
19:40 Skywave; we will have AGI whether by conquest or consent.
19:41 Skywave; what that will look like, is ubiquitous computing everywhere. smartphones tried to be the trojan horse to it, but due to capitalism, they end up barely working.
19:41 Skywave; imagine open human instrumentation everywhere, recording everything, open data, all logs available to everyone.
19:41 Skywave; the end of privacy.
19:41 MinceR; Industrial Automation
19:41 Skywave; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_popular_culture
19:41 Skywave; 'The Light of Other Days is a science-fiction book that praises mass surveillance, under the condition that it is available to everyone. It shows a world in which a total lack of privacy results in a decrease in corruption and crime.'
19:41 TR Bot; Mass surveillance in popular culture - Wikipedia
19:41 Skywave; complete human transcendence.
19:41 bnchs__; got dang it clownflare
19:41 Skywave; human beings as the bootstrap to artificial intelligence.
19:41 schestowitz-TR; "big data"
19:41 bnchs__; i fucking hate their error page
19:42 Skywave; yes. record everything, and make it all available to everyone.
19:42 bnchs__; they went from captcha to straight out blocking tor users
19:42 Skywave; analyze all patterns and organize human beings on the bioenergetic level towards building ever-higher forms of intelligence.
19:43 Skywave; most people will self-assimilate into iCorporatocracy.
19:43 Skywave; which is what is already happening right now.
19:43 Skywave; so i imagine competing teams basically, people using FOSS will eventually take this to the physical.
19:43 Skywave; i imagine parallel underground societies of posthuman cyborgs.
19:44 TR News; New Arduino Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164473
19:44 TR Bot; New Arduino Projects | Tux Machines
19:44 Skywave; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7gSU_Xes3GQ 'China - Surveillance state or way of the future? | DW Documentary'
19:44 TR Bot; China - Surveillance state or way of the future? | DW Documentary - Invidious
19:44 Skywave; at some point everyone will have to have a proprietary smartphone with closed-source hardware and government "apps" just to move around.
19:44 bnchs__; Skywave, not without CLOWN
19:44 schestowitz-TR; [15:33] <techrights-news> Many fools give away far too much personal data about themselves, wrongly assuming corporate and state benevolence https://www.maketecheasier.com/location-data-cdc-track-covid/
19:44 TR Bot; Location Data Used by CDC to Track COVID Compliance - Make Tech Easier
19:44 bnchs__; it will be thin clients connectd to the clown
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19:45 Skywave; i am looking at movements like the Pythagoreans and the Knights Templar for inspiration, i think this will have to become a new kind of techno-ascensionist religion, like the Adeptus Mechanicus from 40k.
19:45 TR News; 5G-like hype. Meh. Boring. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/qualcomm_sampling_wifi_7_silicon/
19:45 TR Bot; Qualcomm sampling Wi-Fi 7 silicon The Register
19:45 TR News; 5 Ways to Make Your Photos as Wallpaper Slideshow in Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164474
19:45 TR Bot; 5 Ways to Make Your Photos as Wallpaper Slideshow in Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines
19:45 Skywave; bnchs__, clown wut?
19:45 TR News; Auto-save in GEdit vs the new GNOME Text Editor Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164475
19:45 TR Bot; Auto-save in GEdit vs the new GNOME Text Editor | Tux Machines
19:45 bnchs__; the cloud
19:45 bnchs__; but i call it clown
19:46 schestowitz-TR; clown storage
19:46 Skywave; the cloud is a meme term that is right now used by evil corporations for evil purposes.
19:46 schestowitz-TR; we use clown chat
19:46 schestowitz-TR; on the clown computer
19:46 Skywave; i want everyone to have like IPFS stuff.
19:46 Skywave; this will require ubiquitous high-speed internet, massive storage capacity, and powerful-enough hardware.
19:46 Skywave; we are getting there eventually i think.
19:46 Skywave; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave
19:46 TR Bot; Skywave - Wikipedia
19:46 schestowitz-TR; we have hit bottlenecks in ipfs ages ago
19:46 Skywave; i want a global uncensorable communications network eventually.
19:46 schestowitz-TR; mostly b/w
19:46 Skywave; yes.
19:46 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is a pig
19:46 Skywave; i just like the idea.
19:47 Skywave; i download everything first, use later.
19:47 Skywave; the consoomer mode-set is completely beyond me.
19:47 Skywave; i've been an opportunistic hoarder ever since i was a kid, i have every page i ever visited, saved.
19:47 Skywave; i have like 100TB of data.
19:47 Skywave; people go on some page, read something, and that's it. no. i want to download everything i put into my mind first.
19:47 Skywave; how people do not have that instinct, i never understood.
19:47 psydroid2; thin clients connecting to the clown is what they want us to think of as the only possibility, but that's not what is actually going to happen
19:47 Skywave; psydroid2, yes.
19:47 TR News; Ubuntu identifying as clown garbage https://ubuntu.com//blog/cost-optimised-private-cloud-for-financial-services just say SERVERS.
19:47 TR Bot; optimised private cloud for financial services | Ubuntu
19:48 Skywave; i want everyone to have massive servers basically and connect to one another over darknets. true decentralization.
19:48 Skywave; most things in this world are evil.
19:48 Skywave; even matter itself is evil.
19:48 InxI; Skywave just download the internet
19:48 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n8tf_LAPIuY
19:48 TR Bot; How to install Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - Invidious
19:48 InxI; i downloaded wikipedia once
19:48 Skywave; most human information is worthless, and only of emotional significance to the people who got exposed to it. i don't care about downloading the internet, only what _i_ experienced.
19:49 Skywave; but yes me too.
19:49 Skywave; i have crawled a bunch of stuff opportunistically. if i like someone's video i'll get their channel over yt-dlp etc.
19:49 Skywave; but i still fully understand most of that information is completely irrelevant beyond the human.
19:49 schestowitz-TR; Skywave: I used to save a lot, but it's a pain to maintain
19:49 Skywave; we are in the pre-history of post-humanism.
19:49 schestowitz-TR; 100TB of storage is expensive
19:49 schestowitz-TR; never mind backups
19:49 Skywave; schestowitz-TR, i just get more HDDs.
19:49 Skywave; few backups.
19:49 Skywave; it is like 5$/month.
19:49 schestowitz-TR; 5TB is about 100 pounds
19:50 schestowitz-TR; and might last 10 years
19:50 schestowitz-TR; so that's like 2000 pounds for 100TB
19:50 schestowitz-TR; and again after 10 years
19:50 Skywave; in 10y we'll have even bigger drives.
19:50 schestowitz-TR; not counting backups
19:50 Skywave; i archived some 1TB drives on 4TB drives a few years back, that cost the same.
19:50 schestowitz-TR; I do the same, but not at the scale of 100
19:50 InxI; hopefully there will be DNA archival soon
19:50 schestowitz-TR; my biggest drivce has 4tb
19:51 schestowitz-TR; InxI: waste of space
19:51 Skywave; it does take some money but it is not beyond the reach of everyone. many people waste a lot of money on things much less important than digital preservation.
19:51 InxI; you can have the hole of the internet in a grain of sand
19:51 schestowitz-TR; better to find a way to stop wars soon
19:51 Skywave; yes a teaspoon or so.
19:51 bnchs__; i download channels to a DVD
19:51 bnchs__; or 2
19:51 Skywave; schestowitz-TR, i agree. repurpose humanity into a new species.
19:51 schestowitz-TR; ot nobody will be left to store or even use the DNA
19:51 Skywave; fellow posthumanist.
19:51 Skywave; i think human beings are a failed species.
19:52 Skywave; the only redeeming aspect we have is our ability to maybe build something better than ourselves.
19:52 Skywave; it is like a higher lifeform cursed us, giving intellect. a bunch of neocortically-advanced monkeys.
19:52 Skywave; Vernor Vinge talks about these things.
19:52 schestowitz-TR; who?
19:52 InxI; we need to creat the GOD like AI before we go MAD
19:52 Skywave; AGI will create completely new "humans", Human 2.0
19:52 Skywave; a big inspiration to many AGI researchers.
19:53 Skywave; Ben Goertzel behind OpenCog, Hugo de Garis.
19:53 schestowitz-TR; why human 2.0?
19:53 bnchs__; i don't want to be a human 2.0
19:53 schestowitz-TR; what are humans good for?
19:53 schestowitz-TR; why not some other animal species?
19:53 bnchs__; or whatever human-created humans
19:53 Skywave; i agree.
19:53 Skywave; it is mostly an idea, something at least not human 1.0.
19:53 schestowitz-TR; look who leads the species
19:53 bnchs__; ok that sounded weird
19:53 Skywave; "human" in name only.
19:53 schestowitz-TR; a bunch of 80s years olds and perverts who want yougn flesh
19:53 Skywave; yes it's cringe.
19:54 schestowitz-TR; and sociopaths mostly
19:54 schestowitz-TR; like the fraud and liar Musk... or gates
19:54 InxI; bnchs__ you wont be you can make an upgraded clone of your self
19:54 Skywave; the problem is that our elites probably aren't sociopath _enough_. the worst of all worlds.
19:54 schestowitz-TR; this is what alphamale culture gravitates towards
19:54 schestowitz-TR; sociopathy
19:54 Skywave; cringeopathy.
19:54 bnchs__; that's also cringe
19:54 Skywave; i am not married to silicon, or wetware.
19:55 Skywave; i want substrate-independent cognition.
19:55 Skywave; if the quantum vibrations in brain microtubules are good enough tech for the next several tens of thousands of years, then we'll have biological brains, whatever.
19:55 Skywave; brains are just hardware, the rest of the body is there to move it around.
19:55 TR News; You can almost assume this has back doors, as that's what VMware does https://unixcop.com/photon-os-on-vsphere/
19:55 TR Bot; Photon OS on vSphere - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
19:56 bnchs__; the idea of robot humanoid wives are insane
19:56 Skywave; yes.
19:56 Skywave; it is some of the dumbest **** ever.
19:56 Skywave; the cringiest thing unimaginable.
19:56 Skywave; imagine making artificial intelligence only to please some monkey senses.
19:56 Skywave; disgusting.
19:56 bnchs__; it's made by people who can't deal with human females
19:56 TR News; "Linux kernel versions 5.17 (March 21, 2022), 5.16.11 (February 23, 2022) and 5.15.35 (April 20, 2022) included a patch to fix the s0ix sleep entry issue on AMD processors, resulting in spontaneous freezes" https://linuxstoney.com/hanging-of-32-bit-processors-on-linux-kernels-branches-5-15-5-17/
19:56 Skywave; yes.
19:56 TR Bot; of 32-bit processors on Linux kernels branches 5.15-5.17 - LinuxStoney
19:57 Skywave; human sexuality is messed up in general.
19:57 Skywave; traditionalism et.al.
19:57 schestowitz-TR; [19:55] <Skywave> brains are just hardware, the rest of the body is there to move it around.
19:57 schestowitz-TR; not necessarily
19:57 bnchs__; and ever since i heard it (on 4chan) i knew it was absolutely pathetic
19:57 Skywave; it's an old meme, to be fair.
19:57 schestowitz-TR; you could reverse it to say the pump of air and bloods are the core
19:57 schestowitz-TR; and the brain helps as their controller
19:58 Skywave; yes.
19:58 Skywave; i just think that it is much easier to theoretically replace _everything else_ than the brain.
19:58 Skywave; right now, the entire organism is one unit.
19:58 Skywave; a brain outside of its humanoid body might even go insane.
19:58 Skywave; i want quadrillions of isolated-brain cylinders for instance.
19:58 schestowitz-TR; we have dialysis
19:58 Skywave; fuel with proper nutrient infusions etc and connect into a hivemind.
19:58 Skywave; welp yes i mean full-on sci-fi cyborgs.
19:59 Skywave; brain the only biological thing in a completely mechanical exoskeleton.
19:59 schestowitz-TR; anyway, animal design is miles ahead of human-made tech
19:59 schestowitz-TR; compare a bee to a processor
19:59 Skywave; yes absolutely agree.
19:59 *CrystalMath (~coderain@2y67ajwccuc9s.irc) has joined #techrights
19:59 Skywave; biology fascinates me.
19:59 Skywave; know thy enemy.
19:59 schestowitz-TR; which one can fly, reproduce, make decisions, and is also a lot smaller?
20:00 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050111
20:00 Skywave; it is possible the silicon AI stuff will never even materialize, that we'll always need _some_ kind of biotech. i am also fine with that.
20:00 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9fbhcrkfumw81.jpg created on 2022-05-01 03:46:00.788286
20:00 Skywave; digital technology as it exists is just glorified calculators.
20:00 Skywave; abacus etc.
20:00 schestowitz-TR; we mostly do mechanical hot swaps
20:00 schestowitz-TR; but the rest is beyond our ability to repair
20:00 schestowitz-TR; stuff like prosthetic
20:01 Skywave; proprietary iHand.
20:01 schestowitz-TR; the bodies are also self-repairing
20:01 Skywave; to some extent.
20:01 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR, animals are designed pretty well
20:01 schestowitz-TR; our tech rarely has any mechanism like that, except metaphorically
20:01 bnchs__; unlike human-made tech
20:01 Skywave; well yes. right now nothing like that exists.
20:01 Skywave; human beings can't solve human problems.
20:01 Skywave; only posthuman beings can.
20:01 bnchs__; that's basically what i was thinking these days
20:02 Skywave; we are 1 step forward 2 steps back.
20:02 schestowitz-TR; reproduction is important
20:02 schestowitz-TR; we just do MASS production
20:02 schestowitz-TR; more and more crap that breaks a month after waranteee runs out
20:02 Skywave; i like experimental gene recombination, sure.
20:02 bnchs__; human-made tech is more flawed than animal design
20:02 schestowitz-TR; it's so "smart" it "knows" when ti break
20:02 Skywave; same-sex and multi-partner offspring, sperm/eggs from skin cells, artificial wombs, human cloning.
20:03 schestowitz-TR; most humans still want to live forever
20:04 schestowitz-TR; so they take on burden like many offspring
20:04 schestowitz-TR; so they never "love"
20:04 schestowitz-TR; *live
20:04 schestowitz-TR; they die faster
20:04 schestowitz-TR; and poorer
20:04 Skywave; i think people misunderstand immortality.
20:04 Skywave; genetics recombine endlessly, and over time will form more or less comparable human beings. and then humans build institutions and develop certain ideas, which they read and reflash their brains so to speak.
20:04 SomeH4x0r; living forever will lead to eventually getting bored
20:05 Skywave; not necessarily, it would require tinkering with the neural architecture though.
20:05 Skywave; so to create mental calculators for example that couldn't _feel_ boredom.
20:05 SomeH4x0r; I am supporting players on UplinkIRC. Then WolfLord dies and UplinkIRC goes down. Or Steam dies a while later.
20:06 SomeH4x0r; IRC will die. Old computers will die. I will have nothing to do.
20:06 Skywave; what allows people to have the kind of energy to be upbeat and go to work designing nuclear weapons now is a kind of insipid insidious monkey supremacism. i never understood it.
20:06 bnchs__; SomeH4x0r, a protocol won't die
20:06 Skywave; well that's a bit grim and dark SomeH4x0r xD
20:06 SomeH4x0r; and for the rest of the "immortal" life I will be bored
20:06 bnchs__; as long as the protocol specification still exists
20:07 Skywave; there will be other things you'll be able to do eventually, the mind always changes.
20:07 bnchs__; and software implementing it exists
20:07 Skywave; every day neuroplasticity changes brain connections.
20:07 TR News; IBM Red Hat values money, not tech https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/5-harvard-business-review-articles-will-resonate-cios-right-now
20:07 TR Bot; 5 Harvard Business Review articles that will resonate with CIOs right now | The Enterprisers Project
20:07 Skywave; do not feel too attached to things, everything changes.
20:07 Skywave; what doesn't change is some eternal principles, philosophy.
20:07 SomeH4x0r; a protocol as a thing is not the same thing as its representation in the real world. Papers do burn, computers do break.
20:07 SomeH4x0r; eventually it will be forgotten
20:08 Skywave; i lost some online friends a decade ago and it felt awful for me too, but i eventually found other things to do anyway.
20:08 TR News; "Remember when IT leaders and tech pundits endlessly debated the meaning of the word cloud?" Meaningless, shitty, misleading buzzword. We should condemn people who peddle it. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/managed-services-vs-hosted-services-vs-cloud-services
20:08 TR Bot; Managed services vs. hosted services vs. cloud services: What's the difference? | The Enterprisers Project
20:08 Skywave; i primarily want to learn, not to make friends. i would ideally make friends who also want to learn, that would be the best. but knowledge always comes first.
20:09 Skywave; i have other sources of satiating my knowledge if the internet stops.
20:09 Skywave; way too many books, for example.
20:09 Skywave; language is consciousness. as long as i read, i'm happy.
20:09 Skywave; (or to be more precise i can't be sad)
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20:12 TR News; Red Hat is promoting Microsoft's vendor lock-in and proprietary prison, which is self-harming and self-discrediting https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/04/schedule-tests-gitops-way-testing-farm-github-action
20:12 TR Bot; Schedule tests the GitOps way with Testing Farm as GitHub Action | Red Hat Developer
20:13 TR News; Red Hat Satellite 6.10.5 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-6105-has-been-released Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
20:13 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.10.5 has been released
20:14 TR News; Fedora only publishes site statistics when they're not embarrassingly low https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-april-2022/
20:14 TR Bot; Community Blog monthly summary: April 2022 Fedora Community Blog
20:16 TR News; GNOME Foundation Board, like OSI, works for the giant corporations https://feborg.es/gnome-foundation-board-elections-2022/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
20:16 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation Board Elections 2022 Felipe Borges
20:16 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights
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20:23 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164476
20:23 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
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20:32 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22043015
20:32 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/tdiwbkdaisv81.jpg created on 2022-04-30 08:17:51.710183
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20:34 XRevan86; https://nitter.eu/kamilkazani/status/1521477751210971140
20:34 TR Bot; Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani): ""Why not peace with Hitler?" "Arm Britain and prolong war" "Lend-lease, lose-lives" "Europe for Europeans, America for Americans" "Stay out of South America, Europe, War" Videotape of an anti-war march in NYC July 7, 1941. Pretty much the same arguments as the ones we hear today" | nitter
20:35 TR News; mesa 22.1.0-rc4 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-May/225767.html
20:35 TR Bot; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc4
20:41 TR News; The problem here is Microsoft Mono https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oYaftsMtbNo Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
20:41 TR Bot; Playing with Unity Landscape Generation - Invidious
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20:46 TR News; "Hello and welcome to the 465th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack. In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest long-term-support release of Ubuntu, 22.04, otherwise known as Jammy Jellyfish" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-465-ubuntu-22-04-lts-deep-dive-3/
20:46 TR Bot; LHS Episode #465: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack
20:47 TR News; It won't last 3 years. It's clobbered to death and it loses money. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/elon_musk_twitter_public/
20:47 TR Bot; Elon Musk wants to take Twitter public in matter of years The Register
20:47 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: Godwin Putin
20:48 schestowitz-TR; Putin God
20:48 schestowitz-TR; Putin win
20:49 MinceR; putindows
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20:50 TR News; "Security researchers have uncovered a critical vulnerability that could lead to DNS spoofing attacks in two popular C standard libraries that provide functions for common DNS operations." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/dns-spoofing-attack-millions-of-devices-at-risk/ Uclibc and uClibc-ng libraries
20:50 TR Bot; DNS Spoofing Threat Puts Millions of Devices at Risk | eSecurityPlanet
20:51 TR News; Windows itself is a security hole. What does this AV bloat accomplish? Some of it ads more holes or spies on users. https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/04/av-comparatives-microsoft-defender-has-a-large-impact-on-system-performance/
20:52 TR Bot; AV-Comparatives: Microsoft Defender has a large impact on system performance - gHacks Tech News
20:52 TR News; Releases of openmediavault Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164477
20:52 TR Bot; Releases of openmediavault | Tux Machines
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20:56 TR News; todays howtos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164478
20:56 TR Bot; today's howyos | Tux Machines
20:56 TR News; Audiocasts and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164479
20:56 TR Bot; Audiocasts and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS, and More | Tux Machines
20:57 schestowitz-TR; Putitin the graveyard
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20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 359.63
20:59 TR News; Tired of Windows and Mac? Check out the Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164286#comment-33546
20:59 TR Bot; Kubuntu Focus M2 Linux laptop now available with Intel Core i7-12700H Alder Lake-H | Tux Machines
21:00 TR News; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/cisco_ai_network/
21:00 TR Bot; Cisco says its AI technology can predict network errors The Register
21:00 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:00 schestowitz-TR; oi!
21:01 TR News; "plus: problems with charging the battery constantly dead." https://dwaves.de/2022/05/04/last-time-siemens-tried-to-build-a-mobile-phone/
21:01 TR Bot; last time Siemens tried to build a mobile phone | dwaves.de
21:02 TR News; Windows 95 was (not) so great THE most beautiful (?) errors an OS EVER produced https://dwaves.de/2022/05/04/windows-95-was-not-so-great-the-most-beautiful-errors-an-os-ever-produced/
21:02 TR Bot; Windows 95 was (not) so great THE most beautiful (?) errors an OS EVER produced | dwaves.de
21:03 MinceR; lol
21:04 TR News; First Real Madrid-Man City match was nonstop action? This second lag is a snooze. Hardly any good chances. Cagey.
21:05 TR News; "An attacker could exploit CVE-2022-1388 to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/f5-releases-security-advisories-addressing-multiple
21:05 TR Bot; F5 Releases Security Advisories Addressing Multiple Vulnerabilities | CISA
21:06 TR News; "Mozilla has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in Firefox and Firefox ESR. An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-and-firefox-esr https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2022-16/
21:06 TR Bot; Mozilla Releases Security Updates for Firefox and Firefox ESR | CISA
21:06 TR Bot; Security Vulnerabilities fixed in Firefox 100 Mozilla
21:07 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/spacex-texas-starbase-piping-plover
21:07 TR Bot; Starbase hurts endangered species, FWS docs show - Protocol
21:07 TR News; Kernel: Mesa 22.1.0 RC4,, 32-Bit Issues, and Peer Software Targets Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164480
21:07 TR Bot; Kernel: Mesa 22.1.0 RC4,, 32-Bit Issues, and Peer Software Targets Linux | Tux Machines
21:07 TR News; Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164481
21:07 TR Bot; Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software | Tux Machines
21:07 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/tech-abortion-snitch-culture
21:07 TR Bot; data will will be used against abortion seekers - Protocol
21:18 TR News; Links 04/05/2022: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 and openmediavault 6 (Shaitan) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/proxmox-virtual-environment-7-2-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/proxmox-virtual-environment-7-2-released/
21:18 TR Bot; Links 04/05/2022: Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.2 and openmediavault 6 (Shaitan) | Techrights
21:18 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164482
21:18 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
21:21 TR News; "We consistently follow the upstream release cadence to provide our users and customers with the latest improvements and fixes" https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical%EF%BB%BF-kubernetes-1-24-is-now-generally-available | Source: Ubuntu
21:21 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.24 is now generally available | Ubuntu
21:22 TR News; Community??? "Trending content is surfaced so you can easily engage with community discussions" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/whats-new-red-hat-customer-portal | Source: Red Hat Official
21:22 TR Bot; Whats new on the Red Hat Customer Portal
21:23 TR News; "try to reduce management tools proliferation" says the systemd company... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/integrate-red-hat-insights-your-existing-operational-workflow | Source: Red Hat Official
21:23 TR Bot; Integrate Red Hat Insights into your existing operational workflow
21:24 TR News; "Another big milestone has been hit for the Steam Deck from Valve." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/steam-deck-hits-2500-games-verified-or-playable/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
21:24 TR Bot; Deck hits 2,500 games Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux
21:24 TR News; "Love some retro action-platformer to fill your time? Janosik quite a popular one, likely because it's free, and it just got a big upgrade." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/free-and-popular-precision-platformer-janosik-gets-a-big-upgrade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
21:24 TR Bot; and popular precision-platformer 'Janosik' gets a big upgrade | GamingOnLinux
21:25 TR News; The deb-get tool helps Ubuntu (and derivative distro) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164481#comment-33548
21:25 TR Bot; Deb-Get is Apt-Get for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software | Tux Machines
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21:27 TR News; "MangoHud is something that Valve use on the Steam Deck, specifically for the performance HUD that shows various details like FPS, frame timing, temperatures and more." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/linux-gaming-overlay-mangohud-has-a-new-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
21:27 TR Bot; gaming overlay MangoHud has a new release | GamingOnLinux
21:27 TR News; "While Valve has yet to actually release a proper iso for SteamOS 3 used on the Steam Deck, others have been taking it into their own hands to provide, like with the new HoloISO." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/holoiso-brings-valves-steamos-3-from-the-steam-deck-to-everyone/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
21:27 TR Bot; brings Valve's SteamOS 3 from the Steam Deck to everyone | GamingOnLinux
21:28 TR News; "With great brevity comes great responsibility." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/
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21:29 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:30 TR News; GNU/Linux preloaded https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/star-labs-add-an-amd-ryzen-option-to-the-starbook-mk-v/
21:30 TR Bot; Labs add an AMD Ryzen option to the StarBook Mk V | GamingOnLinux
21:30 bnchs; hey
21:30 TR News; "Kodi (originally XBMC), is a free and open source media center and entertainment hub, and the latest release up on Flathub adds in support for the Steam Deck controller" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/media-center-and-entertainment-hub-kodi-adds-steam-deck-controls-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
21:30 TR Bot; center and entertainment hub Kodi adds Steam Deck controls support | GamingOnLinux
21:30 SomeH4x0r; still nothing on UplinkIRC
21:31 SomeH4x0r; (aside my talks with other people)
21:31 TR News; "Master Linux" says ICBM sponsored site. Will ICBM vomit in its mouth a little? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/master-linux-docker-before-next-boom/
21:31 TR Bot; Linux and Docker before the next Linux adoption boom | TechRepublic
21:34 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-stole-data-undetected-from-us-european-orgs-since-2019/
21:34 TR Bot; Hackers stole data undetected from US, European orgs since 2019
21:35 schestowitz; haha
21:35 schestowitz; cars have killed people since 2019
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21:39 bnchs; <AdmFubar> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-stole-data-undetected-from-us-european-orgs-since-2019/
21:39 bnchs; pickpocket increased to 100
21:39 bnchs; sneak increased to 100
21:40 bnchs; windows is not for security
21:42 TR News; 4th Man City win (in a row) against Real Madrid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVeMcseUwLM
21:42 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=wVeMcseUwLM
21:42 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Real Madrid Vs Manchester City (0-1) Gol de Marhez | Champions League - Invidious
21:42 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, MangoHud, HoloISO, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164483
21:42 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, MangoHud, HoloISO, and More | Tux Machines
21:45 bnchs; https://github.com/jamiebuilds/anti-fascist-mit-license
21:45 TR Bot; - jamiebuilds/anti-fascist-mit-license: MIT license with additional text to prohibit use by fascists
21:45 bnchs; YOU MUST NOT BECOME A FASCIST
21:46 bnchs; but my program is open source
21:46 bnchs; BUT NO FASCISTS!!!
21:46 bnchs; schestowitz, ^
21:47 bnchs; but don't worry: nothing of value was lost
21:47 bnchs; because he's a webdev
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21:51 TR News; AlmaLinux 9 beta has arrived, and it means business | TechRepublic http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163920#comment-33550
21:51 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available | Tux Machines
21:54 TR News; A cautionary tale about locking Linux & FreeBSD user accounts https://www.cyberciti.biz/networking/a-cautionary-tale-about-locking-linux-freebsd-user-accounts/
21:54 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/networking/a-cautionary-tale-about-locking-linux-freebsd-user-accounts/ )
21:54 TR News; Fedora 36 Release Has Been Delayed for the Second Time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164484
21:54 TR Bot; Fedora 36 Release Has Been Delayed for the Second Time | Tux Machines
21:55 TR News; PGConf.be : Speakers and schedule online https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconfbe-speakers-and-schedule-online-2446/
21:55 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PGConf.be : Speakers and schedule online
22:01 chicksahoy; an anti-fascist software license seems pretty cool
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22:02 chicksahoy; im sad that fedora was delayed :(
22:03 bnchs; and pretty non-free
22:04 chicksahoy; fascists can die in a fire for all i care
22:09 bnchs; but a non-free license won't help
22:11 chicksahoy; also, a lot of fascists probably don't consider themselves fascist
22:11 chicksahoy; ".. we're not facist! we're conservative!"
22:13 bnchs; chicksahoy, i know
22:13 bnchs; but really this non-free license will only make the software in question less used
22:13 bnchs; because license conflicts
22:18 MinceR; "we're not fascist! we're fascist!"
22:20 activelow; next famine, see then who is and who isn't
22:22 activelow; anyway, decision made, i'll remove gnome glib too
22:23 MinceR; no need to wait until then
22:23 activelow; i will miss midnight command and irssi
22:23 bnchs; "you use sixel"
22:23 MinceR; just check who are the "conservative" allies of fideath and PiS when they turned two republics into dictatorships
22:23 bnchs; "but what if they want X11"
22:23 MinceR; s/are/were/
22:23 bnchs; "you tell them kindly to leave"
22:24 MinceR; not one of them raised their voices about it. not one of them broke alliance with either of them.
22:31 TR News; From Belarus With Love Part XIII: Marat Ebzeev Tries to Defuse the Situation | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/04/marat-ebzeev-sam/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/04/marat-ebzeev-sam/
22:31 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part XIII: Marat Ebzeev Tries to Defuse the Situation | Techrights
22:32 DaemonFC; https://www.vice.com/en/article/5db4ad/google-bans-safegraph-former-saudi-intelligence
22:32 TR Bot; Google Bans Location Data Firm Funded by Former Saudi Intelligence Head
22:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The company that was selling the location data on people who went to abortion clinics is operated by Saudi intelligence officials and Peter Thiel.
22:33 DaemonFC; And Google (but not Apple) banned it in June of last year.
22:33 DaemonFC; Of course, more companies could be doing the same thing.
22:33 schestowitz-TR; proxies
22:33 DaemonFC; The CDC was paying them to monitor "compliance" with their COVID-19 decrees.
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22:34 DaemonFC; I finally watched the last season of The Strain.
22:35 DaemonFC; When The Master lost Eichorst (a Nazi concentration camp official who he turned to a Strigoi) he eventually put a former head of the CDC in charge of his "final solution".
22:35 DaemonFC; Very appropriate.
22:36 DaemonFC; https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkpnpy/dababy-felony-battery-assault-charge-is-the-latest-in-a-long-history-of-controversies
22:36 TR Bot; DaBaby's Felony Battery Charge Is the Latest in a Long History of Controversies
22:36 MinceR; very different from the STRAIN i played :>
22:36 DaemonFC; He's black and rich. That's how he gets away with the shit.
22:36 MinceR; https://doomwiki.org/wiki/STRAIN
22:36 TR Bot; - The Doom Wiki at DoomWiki.org
22:36 DaemonFC; Anything terrible he does just draws attention to his career.
22:36 DaemonFC; People will even applaud it.
22:37 TR News; Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid-test-case-ratio/
22:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading
22:37 DaemonFC; A month later, we get to hear about the Will Smith slapping incident.
22:37 DaemonFC; Like what kind of a man slaps someone.
22:37 DaemonFC; "I'm gonna slap you! I'm gonna slap you so hard!"
22:38 MinceR; i'm guessing the kind that wants to cause more pain than damage
22:38 DaemonFC; Well if it's the same crime anyway, just punch them for god's sake.
22:38 DaemonFC; Go big or go home.
22:39 MinceR; s/punch/stab/
22:39 InxI; that wasn't a slap
22:40 InxI; it was a cinematic punch
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22:42 DaemonFC; "The Dow was up 700 points." soon after a half point rate hike.
22:42 DaemonFC; Remember them saying that rate hikes would cause a collapse and they needed to remain low to keep the stock market going?
22:42 DaemonFC; Remember that?
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22:57 InxI; s/stab/vacine
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23:00 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsFTAJTEZGQ
23:00 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=JsFTAJTEZGQ
23:00 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | Black cat gets close to the camera and purrs very loudly - Invidious
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23:13 InxI; freaking cats
23:13 MinceR; :)
23:14 InxI; im a mouse person
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23:14 MinceR; i just use mice
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23:17 bnchs; who the fuck is wallace
23:17 InxI; have you tested positive for https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/toxoplasmosis/index.html
23:17 TR Bot; CDC - Toxoplasmosis
23:18 MinceR; no
23:18 psydroid2; william wallacer the sixelth
23:18 MinceR; williamr wallacer
23:18 wallacer; William Wallacer XV
23:18 wallacer; maybe
23:19 wallacer; Wallacer Wllliams XV perhaps
23:19 MinceR; :)
23:20 InxI; "Toxoplasmosis: A pathway to neuropsychiatric disorders".
23:20 InxI; it makes mouse not to fear cats
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23:21 bnchs; i was thinking of a different wallace
23:22 MinceR; i'm not a mouse
23:22 bnchs; when i read your name
23:23 InxI; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1690701/
23:23 TR Bot; Fatal attraction in rats infected with Toxoplasma gondii. - PMC
23:24 MinceR; i'm also not a rat
23:24 InxI; it infects people yoo
23:24 InxI; too
23:24 schestowitz-TR; said the rats
23:25 InxI; MinceR is a rat
23:26 InxI; sif i had a mouse pet id named it mincer
23:26 MinceR; well, there were a couple mice i did throw out the window
23:26 InxI; :]
23:27 MinceR; they got trapped in the mouse trap
23:27 MinceR; after a while they stopped coming back
23:27 InxI; mouse trap? you must live in a dumpster
23:27 MinceR; something like that
23:27 MinceR; though the comrades called it an "apartment"
23:28 MinceR; they never had to live in one, of course
23:28 MinceR; they moved into villas after throwing out their predecessors
23:29 bnchs; minceraft
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23:32 InxI; why did you do that?
23:32 MinceR; why did i do what
23:32 InxI; matey
23:33 InxI; matey = comrade in english
23:33 MinceR; comrade is already in english
23:33 matey; 00DA
23:34 InxI; australian english
23:34 matey; /me thinks the hex codepoint for hammer and sickle unicode should be DADA but thats dadaist
23:35 InxI; and the star?
23:36 InxI; or the star is just bling
23:36 matey; and obviously the hex codepoint for cow unicode should be BEEF
23:36 matey; and the codepoint for the windows flag should be B00B
23:37 InxI; X)
23:37 MinceR; 0D 0A
23:37 InxI; this must be the debian emogi
23:38 matey; for years i used a tom petty song (and frankenstein reference) to remember which order the hexcodes for windows/dos newlines went
23:38 matey; (boris) CRLF
23:38 matey; LF is 10 of course, but in hex thats 0A
23:39 matey; i only needed this reference because i dealt with CR+LF that often, and i didnt want to get them mixed up 1/3 of the time
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23:40 InxI; hexcodes are for people who cant talk binary
23:41 MinceR; (long) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxmiSRD0ZqU
23:41 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=OxmiSRD0ZqU
23:41 TR Bot; y.com.sb | George Carlin -- It's Bad for You -- 1080p Remaster - Invidious
23:41 MinceR; also for people who don't have time to talk binary
23:48 InxI; George Carlin is just a grumpy old man
23:49 MinceR; no
23:49 MinceR; he was a funny grumpy old man
23:49 MinceR; now he's just dead
23:49 InxI; i dont think he even think his jokes are funny
23:50 matey; most people cant pull off dead in a funny way
23:50 InxI; is like those people that use jokes as a way to say vile crap with out the social outrage
23:50 matey; eric morcambe died in a funny way (sort of)
23:51 matey; i thought it was sad, but he might have thought it was funny (after the fact... if possible)
23:51 schestowitz-TR; carlin was a commentator
23:51 schestowitz-TR; he used humour and tone to deliver it well
23:51 matey; morcambe died on stage of a heart attack
23:51 matey; everyone thought it was a bit, they were hysterical
23:51 schestowitz-TR; iirc, his parents (or one of them) was a journalist
23:51 InxI; commentator? like sports?
23:51 schestowitz-TR; so the family had strong views, sans the jokes
23:51 matey; now journalism is a big joke
23:51 schestowitz-TR; he comments on language and society
23:52 matey; he said if ptsd was still called "shell shock" maybe people suffering from it would get more help
23:52 MinceR; although he did say once that he was not an "old man" but an "old fuck"
23:53 psydruid; oh, you are actually talking about this guy
23:53 psydruid; https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44916496
23:53 TR Bot; Fife 4 Forfar 5 - the comedy result that finally came true (on penalties) - BBC Sport
23:54 InxI; yes it seems is unable to put together a sentence with out expelatives
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23:54 InxI; or maybe cause the public thinks it funnyer that way
23:55 bnchs; sixel
23:55 MinceR; maybe you'd think it's funnier if you removed the stick from your ass :>
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23:56 matey; /me tries to imagine a world where no one has a stick in their arse
23:56 InxI; he said hes 69 with a stick up his ass
23:57 InxI; so that explains why he dosent even think his jokes are funny
23:57 matey; for starters there would be no copyright lawyers
23:58 matey; and the record industry in general would be quite different
23:58 matey; alex jones would not exist
23:58 matey; thats okay
23:59 InxI; alex jones should not exist
23:59 matey; trump would still have supporters, but not enough to constitute political power
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