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00:00 schestowitz[TR]; when i left sirius we could barely take holiday
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; time off work
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; understaffed
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; or pretending to
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; maybe not money to pay subs
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; so the bosses pretended to be techs
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; but did not do anything
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; I covered it
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; the company can file its insolvency forms any day now
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; and pension providers are too slow to hold it accountable
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; so that's a scandal on top of a scandal
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "you f*ing rascal"
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "Microsoft Is Shutting Down Its Metaverse Unit Amidst Broader Layoffs</a></h5><blockquote><p>Microsoft is shutting down its metaverse unit comprising 100 employees amidst broader layoffs. Microsoft has internallyannounceddisbanding its Industrial Metaverse Core group, a division comprising around 100 employees focused on bringing the metaverse to industrial environments through software."
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/30/microsoft-is-shutting-down-its-metaverse-unit-amidst-broader-layoffs/
00:01 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/30/microsoft-is-shutting-down-its-metaverse-unit-amidst-broader-layoffs/ )
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "what do you do at Micorosft?"
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "I do meta"
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "cool,. what does that mean?"
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "honestly, i don't klnow"
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; "but they say it's hot"
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; "so they hired me....[snorts cocaine]"
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: azure crisis
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; security mayhem
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; and losses
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; clients leaving
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; no more bailouts from bailoput biden
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; too busy printing money for ammo
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; soon for taiwan
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; because the us problem is china, OBVIOUSLY
00:03 TR News; STMicro STLINK-V3PWR debugging & programming probe supports power measurement https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/03/31/stmicro-stlink-v3pwr-debugging-programming-probe-supports-power-measurement/
00:03 TR Bot; STMicro STLINK-V3PWR debugging & programming probe supports power measurement - CNX Software
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; US to go to war with china
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; to liberate the sweatshop workers
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; who make nike and staff
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; oppressed by their regimes
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; for US brand names
00:04 psydruid; Azure caught mono and now it's dying
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; *and stuff
00:04 psydruid; Yuhong Bai Bai
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; Azure was based ona false premise
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; that people needed "clown computing';
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; and it was inevitable
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; and would always grow
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; even AAWS had layoffs last month
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; so what hope is there for wee azure?
00:05 psydruid; Death
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; they jacked up the prices _too_ much
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; also spent billions on "marketing"
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; "clown clown clown"
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; clown native
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; on-=prem clowwn
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; you need your own clown at home
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; on-prem entertainment
00:06 psydruid; I'm glad this happened, though
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; hard drive + tcp/ip stack = clown
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; and at the same time "IoT"
00:06 psydruid; A lot of on-premises vista went to the clown
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
00:06 psydruid; And now the clown is moribund
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; fucking mayham :/
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; my parents are both ill atm
00:06 psydruid; so vista is going to die
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; not even sure what they caught
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; last time I was seriously ill was 2005
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; and it was for less than a day
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; some virus I caught in the hotel
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; (when I had first met and spoke to Theresa May)
00:07 TR News; OCD Is a Serious Illness, And It's More Common Than You Think https://www.sciencealert.com/ocd-is-a-serious-illness-and-its-more-common-than-you-think
00:07 TR Bot; Is a Serious Illness, And It's More Common Than You Think : ScienceAlert
00:08 psydruid; Covid has been a total disaster for my family except for my father
00:08 AdmFubar; more like food poisoning
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/03/31/the-new-normal-in-2023/
00:08 TR Bot; Blog Archive How 2023 (When They Tell Us Pandemic is Over) Compares to 1999-2018 Death Rates
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: yes
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; but that does not last long
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; my mom had that for a week already
00:09 TR News; "HEY HI" in headline? INSTANT skip. Marketing is NOT news.
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00:10 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/risk/stop-blaming-the-end-user-for-security-risk
00:10 TR Bot; Stop Blaming the End User for Security Risk
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: JS only
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: microsoft operandi:
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; 1) blame nation
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; 2) blame the attacker
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; 3) blame the sys admin
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; 4) blame the user
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; 5) but never patch the bug
00:13 TR News; EU May Need To Reintroduce Tariffs On Ukrainian Grain, PMs Say https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-eu-grain-tariffs/32343843.html
00:13 TR Bot; EU May Need To Reintroduce Tariffs On Ukrainian Grain, PMs Say
00:16 TR News; Hong Kong police ask for billions to fund digital network linked to bodycams https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/bodycams-digital-network-03312023143148.html
00:16 TR Bot; Hong Kong police ask for billions to fund digital network linked to bodycams Radio Free Asia
00:16 TR News; North Korean hacker group poses as journalists and experts to steal intel https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/apt43-03312023164851.html
00:16 TR Bot; North Korean hacker group poses as journalists and experts to steal intel Radio Free Asia
00:20 TR News; "Over 11 days the researchers at Marttila & Kiley Inc. asked 1,001 US citizens a series of survey questions." https://www.alexmurrell.co.uk/articles/the-age-of-average
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR Bot; The age of average Alex Murrell
00:20 TR News; Don't drown https://www.oliverburkeman.com/river
00:20 TR Bot; Treat your to-read pile like a river | Oliver Burkeman
00:21 TR News; "It's amusing to reflect that at an earlier stage in the history of the web, information overload was widely held to be a temporary issue." https://www.oliverburkeman.com/river
00:22 TR News; Incompetent but Nice - Jacob Kaplan-Moss https://jacobian.org/2023/mar/28/incompetent-but-nice/ Source: Jacob Kaplan Moss | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jacobian.org/2023/mar/28/incompetent-but-nice/
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00:22 TR Bot; Incompetent but Nice - Jacob Kaplan-Moss
00:23 TR News; Make your own Optionals https://mccue.dev/pages/3-28-23-custom-optional Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mccue.dev/pages/3-28-23-custom-optional
00:23 TR Bot; Make your own Optionals
00:23 TR News; The Ambiguous Zone - Ben Northrop https://www.bennorthrop.com/Essays/2023/the-ambiguous-zone.php Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bennorthrop.com/Essays/2023/the-ambiguous-zone.php
00:23 TR Bot; The Ambiguous Zone - Ben Northrop
00:24 TR News; "I hated writing in high school. It wasnt objective like my favorite subjects, math and science. It also didnt help that we had to write about old, hard-to-understand literature like Shakespeare. But my perspective on writing changed once I started working full-time as a software engineer." https://www.developing.dev/p/why-engineers-need-to-write
00:24 TR Bot; Why Engineers Need To Write - by Ryan Peterman
00:24 TR News; The Definition of Senior: A Look at the expectations for Software Engineers https://loige.co/the-senior-dev/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//loige.co/the-senior-dev/
00:24 TR Bot; The Definition of Senior: A Look at the expectations for Software Engineers
00:25 TR News; The Twitter API is now effectively unmaintained | snarfed.org https://snarfed.org/the-twitter-api-is-now-effectively-unmaintained | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//snarfed.org/the-twitter-api-is-now-effectively-unmaintained
00:25 TR Bot; Twitter API is now effectively unmaintained | snarfed.org
00:26 TR News; Making Python 100x faster with less than 100 lines of Rust https://ohadravid.github.io/posts/2023-03-rusty-python/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ohadravid.github.io/posts/2023-03-rusty-python/
00:26 TR Bot; Making Python 100x faster with less than 100 lines of Rust
00:28 TR News; "Authorities are hunting down a [cr]acker who has threatened to release the personal data of 55 million Thais if the government agency allegedly involved in the leakage of information fails to meet a ransom demand by April 5." https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2540650/agencies-hunt-for-hacker
00:28 TR Bot; Agencies hunt for hacker
00:29 TR News; FDA requires medical devices be secured against cyberattacks | CNN Business https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/tech/fda-medical-devices-secured-cyberattacks/index.html Source: CNN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/tech/fda-medical-devices-secured-cyberattacks/index.html
00:29 TR Bot; FDA requires medical devices be secured against cyberattacks | CNN Business
00:29 TR News; "Fake extortionists are piggybacking on data breaches and ransomware incidents, threatening U.S. companies with publishing or selling allegedly stolen data unless they get paid." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-ransomware-gang-targets-us-orgs-with-empty-data-leak-threats/
00:29 TR Bot; Fake ransomware gang targets U.S. orgs with empty data leak threats
00:30 TR News; "six years of calls for more transparency in breach notifications. Sadly, the situation has gotten worse in the past year. Not only do entities fail to admit they suffered a ransomware attack, but they fail to inform patients if the patients protected health information was leaked or is freely available on the internet." https://www.databreaches.net/todays-dont-say-ransomware-award-goes-to/
00:30 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/todays-dont-say-ransomware-award-goes-to/ )
00:37 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
00:38 TR News; (NEW): Software: Alchemy, EazyLoader, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Software_Alchemy_EazyLoader_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Software_Alchemy_EazyLoader_and_More.gmi
00:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software: Alchemy, EazyLoader, and More
00:38 TR News; (NEW): Games: DOOM, Epic Linux Gaming Predictions, and ScummVM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Games_DOOM_Epic_Linux_Gaming_Predictions_and_ScummVM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Games_DOOM_Epic_Linux_Gaming_Predictions_and_ScummVM.gmi
00:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: DOOM, Epic Linux Gaming Predictions, and ScummVM
00:47 TR News; (NEW): Bloomberg Launches FOSS Fund to Support Free and Open Source Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Bloomberg_Launches_FOSS_Fund_to_Support_Free_and_Open_Source_Pr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Bloomberg_Launches_FOSS_Fund_to_Support_Free_and_Open_Source_Pr.gmi
00:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Bloomberg Launches FOSS Fund to Support Free and Open Source Projects
00:47 TR News; (NEW): Google says Microsoft cloud practices are anti-competitive http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Google_says_Microsoft_cloud_practices_are_anti_competitive.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Google_says_Microsoft_cloud_practices_are_anti_competitive.gmi
00:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Google says Microsoft cloud practices are anti-competitive
00:47 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Red_Hat_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/Red_Hat_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers
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01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:23 TR News; Links 01/04/2023: Bloomberg Places Stake in Free Software, Microsoft Banned and Slammed for Antitrust Abuses | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/01/bloomberg-places-stake-in-freesw/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/01/bloomberg-places-stake-in-freesw/
01:23 TR Bot; Links 01/04/2023: Bloomberg Places Stake in Free Software, Microsoft Banned and Slammed for Antitrust Abuses | Techrights
01:23 TR News; (NEW): Italy Blocks Microsoft's Chaffbot/Vapourware/Plagiarist Spying Machine http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Italy_Blocks_Microsoft_s_Chaffbot_Vapourware_Plagiarist_Spying_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Italy_Blocks_Microsoft_s_Chaffbot_Vapourware_Plagiarist_Spying_.gmi
01:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Italy Blocks Microsoft's Chaffbot/Vapourware/Plagiarist Spying Machine
01:23 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
01:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
01:30 TR News; Almost 2.4k live capsules now, 30 more to go gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
01:32 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D876.jpg
01:32 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D549.jpg
01:33 TR News; "I did not realise until very recently that jq, the command line utility for working with JSON files, is a fully fledged programming language. Like AWK, script files can be passed in with the -f flag in addition to the one-lines that are passed in as string args." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/techGuides/twoNeatFeaturesOfJq.gmi
01:33 TR News; "/bin//sh is typically used for not so legal purposes. /bin//sh unlike the normal form /bin/sh fits neatly into a 64-bit box, and one may not want any NUL characters in that box...because reasons." gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/04/02/wacky-unix-paths.gmi
01:53 TR News; Microsoft Layoffs in the Buzzwords Department | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/01/buzzwords-no-more/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/01/buzzwords-no-more/
01:53 TR Bot; Microsoft Layoffs in the Buzzwords Department | Techrights
01:57 TR News; (NEW): Graphics in GNOME and KDE Itinerary Report http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Graphics_in_GNOME_and_KDE_Itinerary_Report.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Graphics_in_GNOME_and_KDE_Itinerary_Report.gmi
01:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Graphics in GNOME and KDE Itinerary Report
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02:13 t0talist; live with GNUsystemd... which was hitting oom and zram-swapping with a single browser tab regularly
02:14 t0talist; some debian systemd installation
02:14 t0talist; anyway, i decided, hey, why not, give xinit/i3-wm a try; apt-get purge various junk... reboot ...nice
02:14 t0talist; then, first surprise: $ xinit fails over permissions errors
02:15 t0talist; ok, next one chmod g+s /usr/bin/Xorg /user/bin/xinit ... chgrp video ... nothing helped... this
02:15 t0talist; allright, apt-get install lightdm again... this could launch a session at least... reboot
02:16 t0talist; and now comes the real systemd fun: "Start job is running for hold until boot process finishes up" ... and no way to drop to a rescue shell (with or without passowrd)
02:17 t0talist; pressing escape, well, this swaps the screen to some greyish progress bar, pressing escape again, back to the tty showing systemd booted my system into an uninterruptible while(1) loop
02:17 t0talist; the best operating system and init ever: dropping to while(1) which doesn't at least permit to enter any password
02:18 t0talist; it's apt-get install lightdm which caused this... not an unusual task, just in case i enjoyed "freedom", of choice in this case, with "free software"
02:18 t0talist; to remove or re-install any "free software" if i wished to
02:18 t0talist; Gnome/systemd, are wrecked beyond repair
02:18 t0talist; and with it debian/canoncial
02:19 t0talist; seems, although my self-made GTK3-profile (removed systemd/dbus), wasn't that bad after all; i am not willing to maintain it
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 t0talist; it's just too much clutter, and it requires hours and days, to compile all this junk
02:20 t0talist; got that, an apt-get purge lightdm, and re-install apt-get install lightdm, this wrecked the whole system, which requires a re-install due to this
02:21 t0talist; with systemd i couldn't at least drop to a /bin/login anylonger
02:21 t0talist; just insane
02:21 t0talist; besides, it's nice Xorg/xinit are restricted, to prevent access to various /dev/ nodes
02:22 t0talist; however, if I myself, as the user of this system, decided it's OK for them to do it... why can't this be administered correctly?
02:23 t0talist; i mean, little while ago, i had to patch both Kernel and Xorg... due to the systemd clutter introducing changes
02:23 t0talist; if Gnome wanted to wreck their system, who cares? yet wrecking the non-gnome installations, that's a whole other issue
02:25 t0talist; anyway, this was the idea, i won't care about a non-systemd/non-dbus GTK anymore, and use some debian instead if necessary, if there's some tasks i couldn't do at framebuffer terminal
02:28 t0talist; "a start job is running for Hold" no limit... btw. it's the re-installed lightdm which doesn't launch, it's not at least some crucial daemon which could have prevented to offer /bin/login at a tty
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; gentoo?
02:28 t0talist; no, Debian/systemd
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; ah
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; debian had a bsd deriv at one point
02:29 t0talist; my gentoo profile for GTK3(systemd/dbus wiped 100%_, this worked
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; i think now it has a hurd version
02:29 t0talist; however, it's not specific to debian, it is systemd in particular, which is wrecked
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02:29 t0talist; even if you don't appreciate the idea of systemd, at least it had to work
02:30 t0talist; which, as shown, doesn't simply be doing this: apt-get purge lightdm; apt-get install lightdm ...
02:30 t0talist; and the problem is, systemd is blocking the init-procedure, because of a non-critical task which doesn't launch (lightdm)
02:30 t0talist; that's just, silly, by design
02:31 t0talist; and the system doesn't have GRUB either, it's uboot-loader launched, so you can't intercept at the boot-loader stage, to do whatever magic there
02:32 t0talist; even when, why would systemd not at least permit to drop to /bin/login? while(1)... that's the best so far an init system came up with
02:32 TR News; Geminispace: Still Growing, Still Community-Controlled | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/01/gemini-capsules-april-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/01/gemini-capsules-april-2023/
02:32 TR Bot; Geminispace: Still Growing, Still Community-Controlled | Techrights
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02:33 TR News; Two weeks passed. Still no LibrePlanet talks. They probably try to release everything at once, i.e. neutrally. https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/
02:33 TR Bot; libreplanet's profile GNU MediaGoblin
02:34 t0talist; besides, it wouldn't be that annoying, if systemd had not broken what worked without it: the init procedure itself
02:34 t0talist; and there's no administrative security concern either, because systemd may only have allowed to offer /bin/login, which it does otherwise with or without any lightdm (or similar)
02:35 t0talist; it's just a secondary symptom, a non-critical init-task, lightdm, which fails to launch for whatever reason ( i don't care ), this is blocking the _entire_ init
02:36 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
02:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
02:36 t0talist; obviously, there hasn't been some bare minimum acceptence testing either, with systemd and the administrative guideline, a non-critical task blocking the _entire_ init process
02:36 t0talist; and, i wouldn't want to know, how much money was dumped into this nonsense
02:37 TR News; What Are the Bots Doing to Art? https://reason.com/2023/04/01/what-are-the-bots-doing-to-art/
02:37 TR Bot; What Is A.I. Doing to Art?
02:37 TR News; Pluralistic: Flickr to copyleft trolls: drop dead (01 Apr 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/01/pixsynnussija/
02:37 TR Bot; Pluralistic: Flickr to copyleft trolls: drop dead (01 Apr 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-010423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-010423.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 01, 2023
02:38 t0talist; even worse, the whole GTK3 locked into systemd (by dbus), even when systemd init was removed, it requires notable patching and hacking, to remove dbus too
02:38 TR News; How to Install Spotify on Manjaro Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-spotify-on-manjaro-linux/
02:38 TR Bot; to Install Spotify on Manjaro Linux - LinuxCapable
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-010423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-010423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-010423.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 01, 2023
02:39 t0talist; and of cause, then, most "desktop environments" are gone nowadays, except openbox iirc, or some i3 with xinit (which to was broken due to perission problems)
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-010423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-010423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-010423.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 01, 2023
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 01, 2023
02:41 t0talist; it's just i moved to framebuffer-console already, knowing with GTK4 life will suck endlessly, i won't maintain anything of this
02:41 t0talist; and i am working towards removing GNU toolchain too, if i can, there's some blockers remaining
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-04-01.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-04-01.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:42 t0talist; leaving me with a linux-2.2 or linux-2.4 type kernel at best, 32bit... it's worth it, long-term, given where GNU and Mapple/llvm are heading
02:43 t0talist; python, that's a m$ employee already, systemd is, and whoever is behind gentoo... i don't care anymore
02:44 t0talist; it won't take much longer, it's all wrecked beyond repair, finally, once question marks are raised over their toolchains and system-integration
02:44 t0talist; among *bsd, they moved onto Mapple llvm/clang... enjoy, i won't
02:45 TR News; "March has been unbelievably busy in my real life. We are moving into a smaller, cheaper house next month in preparation for my wife to attend graduate school, and we've spent the last few weeks packing like madmen to ready our current house for showings. [...] much less specifically devote to Gemini." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2023/202303/20230331-end-of-march-status-update.gmi
02:46 TR News; Hello, April gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/nm03/2023/APR2023/entry_1 "I inhaled some of that early Summer air today, and it was fantastic."
02:46 t0talist; the whole browser-www-crap, this can't be supported reasonably anylonger either... not with netsurf at least, and it's not desirable either, to implement some malware-execution-environment, just for them, Mapple/Google/Wintel
02:46 t0talist; to inject their wasm.js crap
02:46 t0talist; no thanks
02:47 t0talist; it's a knee-jerk for THEM too, because they couldn't abandon it anymore, what they did
02:47 TR News; How to Install Deepin on Manjaro Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-deepin-on-manjaro-linux/
02:47 TR Bot; to Install Deepin on Manjaro Linux - LinuxCapable
02:47 t0talist; even if they wanted to
02:47 TR News; How to Install Snap on Manjaro Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-snap-on-manjaro-linux/
02:47 TR Bot; to Install Snap on Manjaro Linux - LinuxCapable
02:47 TR News; How to Install Liquorix Kernel on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-liquorix-kernel-on-linux-mint/
02:47 t0talist; it's funny how, techrights here floods a news-ticker, with a dozen different distro brandings, for the same junk all day
02:47 TR Bot; to Install Liquorix Kernel on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable
02:48 TR News; How to Install Scrot on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-scrot-on-linux-mint/
02:48 TR Bot; to Install Scrot on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable
02:48 t0talist techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; t0talist: flood?
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; it is at least on-topic
02:49 t0talist; swapping dress every 5 minutes, to re-appeal the malware which it is
02:49 t0talist; it's not at least "Linux"
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; you use linux
02:49 t0talist; for a linux, you had to fork at some 2.x kernel version
02:49 t0talist; any later... is toxic, for several reasons
02:49 t0talist; and with 2.x microsoft wintel had begun, to seize control over it
02:50 t0talist; linux itself, couldn't abandon most of what they had integrated anymore either
02:50 t0talist techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
02:50 t0talist; most of the code bloat, is used to support proprietary malice, even without firmware loaded
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; t0talist: want to do some development?
02:50 t0talist; sure i do
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; what langs aee you good at?
02:51 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
02:51 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser
02:51 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; maybe you want to improve techrights-news
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; uses bash, perl, python
02:51 t0talist; tomorrow i'll hack a little inside bootloader parts, assembly and C
02:52 t0talist; the tcc-compiled kernel, does bootload and execute already, but it crashed still, due to some memory-layout issue, related to GNU-linker specifics
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; working on sort.sh today
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; simpler than kernel stuff
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; with pointers and all
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; i've not done C in years
02:52 t0talist; the real challenge will be rewriting some ASM parts for bootloader, to avoid GNU binutils
02:53 t0talist; before this, i need to confirm, a tcc-compiled kernel does boot
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; ok
02:53 t0talist; without crashing
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; into windows
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; like hans the crow
02:53 t0talist; it just sucks, systemd wrecked a trash-bin installation
02:54 t0talist; most of this, is as awful as once win95 was
02:54 t0talist; or worse
02:54 t0talist; and it's labeled "free software" nowadays, or linux
02:54 TR News; Microsofters try to make it all about Microsoft https://www.neowin.net/news/wine-85-released-with-winrt-dark-theme-support/
02:54 TR Bot; Wine 8.5 released with WinRT dark theme support - Neowin
02:55 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: i stumbled upon some interesting linux-2.2 kernel fork recently, it's actively developed even
02:56 t0talist; to my surprise; they chose a linux-2.0 systemcall ABI
02:56 t0talist; to serve a GNU userspace
02:56 TR News; Linux Lite 6.4 released with WebP support, runs on just 768 MB RAM https://www.neowin.net/news/linux-lite-64-released-with-webp-support-runs-on-just-768-mb-ram/
02:56 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.4 released with WebP support, runs on just 768 MB RAM - Neowin
02:57 t0talist; it's just, hardware-support, for practical reasons, i won't roll-back that far
02:58 t0talist; next one, Linux Lite... with 768MB RAM, it couldn't at least git-clone it's own kernel source without hitting oom-killer
02:58 t0talist; nor compile it's own toolchain, that's why, such news are awkward, mis-leading, and fraudulent in a way
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 t0talist; and who is sponsoring all this, with money?
02:59 t0talist; because, rather important projects, are abandoned, for decades
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03:00 TR News; My Complaint Against GEICO is on the Docket for the Illinois Department of Insurance https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/01/my-complaint-against-geico-is-on-the-docket-for-the-illinois-department-of-insurance/
03:00 TR Bot; My Complaint Against GEICO is on the Docket for the Illinois Department of Insurance | BaronHK's Rants
03:01 TR News; AppImage Installer first download working version https://bkhome.org/news/202304/appimage-installer-first-download-working-version.html
03:01 TR Bot; AppImage Installer first download working version
03:01 TR News; (UPDATED): PCLinusOS Updates Thunderbird Email Client and Browsers (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/31/PCLinusOS_Updates_Thunderbird_Email_Client_and_Browsers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/31/PCLinusOS_Updates_Thunderbird_Email_Client_and_Browsers.gmi
03:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines PCLinusOS Updates Thunderbird Email Client and Browsers (UPDATED)
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03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 16473 total Total number of pages in capsule: 45510 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 3 weeks 3 days ago
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: net issues?
03:02 XRevan86; schestowitz: Just server reboot.
03:03 XRevan86; And maybe Internet issues too, but I'm not sure.
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:03 TR News; TikTok = disinformation https://www.axios.com/2023/04/01/tiktok-warn-act-layoffs-tech-experts-true-false
03:03 TR Bot; Experts debunk viral TikTok videos about WARN Act and major layoffs
03:04 XRevan86; But that's unrelated to IRC
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 TR News; Why Is Finland the Happiest Country on Earth? The Answer Is Complicated. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/01/world/europe/finland-happiness-optimism.html
03:04 TR Bot; Why Is Finland the Happiest Country on Earth? The Answer Is Complicated. - The New York Times
03:06 TR News; I blocked Hacker News and you can too https://www.akselmo.dev/2023/04/01/I-blocked-Hacker-News-and-you-can-too.html
03:06 TR Bot; I blocked Hacker News and you can too | AksDev
03:11 t0talist; anyway, if i fail with linux-2.4, i could still try to play with some other linux-2.0 type kernel
03:11 t0talist; which then, required much efforts, to support some relevant hardware... probably too much
03:12 t0talist; as soon as acpi/usb get involved to run any such kernel on real hardware...
03:12 TR News; GNU Guix: Reinstating an iconic error message https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2023/reinstating-an-iconic-error-message/
03:12 TR Bot; Reinstating an iconic error message 2023 Blog GNUGuix
03:13 t0talist; you see, in the end... the same type of companies control it then
03:13 t0talist; because, you can't just hack a kernel, and expect some long-term stable hardware-support
03:13 TR News; Hubert Figuire: Niepce March 2023 updates https://www.figuiere.net/hub/wlog/niepce-march-2023-update/
03:13 TR Bot; Niepce March 2023 updates - Hubert Figuire
03:14 TR News; Jussi Pakkanen: Got the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Director's Edition box set? You might wan to check your discs https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2023/04/got-star-trek-motion-picture-directors.html
03:14 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: Got the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Director's Edition box set? You might wan to check your discs
03:14 TR News; (NEW): GNUnet 0.19.4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GNUnet_0_19_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GNUnet_0_19_4.gmi
03:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNUnet 0.19.4
03:15 t0talist; with a tcc-compiled linux-2.x kernel that doesn't crash, i could avoid alot of problems, and retain some essential hardware support at least
03:16 t0talist; and, it is possible; i couldn't identify yet, why the kernel crashes, after several days and nights of diffing and bisecting this
03:17 TR News; Failing Disks http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2023-04-01-failing-disks.en.html
03:17 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: Failing Disks
03:18 t0talist; i think, the tccboot-loader loads kernel at a different address, which is compatible with what tcc-linker emits
03:18 t0talist; so, although my kernel does bootload and execute, some address-mappings/translations do not match, for interrupt-service-routines at some place
03:19 t0talist; and as soon as an interrupt triggers, it crashes or gets stuck...
03:19 TR News; Equinix retiring copper https://rubenerd.com/equinix-retiring-copper/
03:19 TR Bot; Equinix retiring copper
03:19 t0talist; for quick-testing, i'll hook into tccboot-loader, to confirm this theory... and i could live with it, writing/hacking a tiny custom boot-loader compatible with tcc-compiler/linker emitted kernel.bin
03:20 TR News; The ESS AudioDrive ES1868F for sound and IDE https://rubenerd.com/the-ess-audiodrive-es1868-for-sound-and-ide/
03:20 TR Bot; The ESS AudioDrive ES1868F for sound and IDE
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 t0talist; if this works, i too consider a notable section of a chain of trust re-established, which GNU/Linux lost two decades ago
03:22 TR News; Mike Hommey: Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0 https://glandium.org/blog/?p=4292
03:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0
03:22 t0talist; on the software side, with such a tcc-compiled linux-2.x kernel and toolchain, dependencies against the supply chains from ibm/m$/mapple/google are absent or minimal then
03:23 TR News; Paul Wise: FLOSS Activities March 2023 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2023/04/01/floss-activities/
03:23 TR Bot; FLOSS Activities March 2023
03:24 TR News; Clown computing and HEY HI hype = waste of energy, more pollution https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/01/generative-ai-cloud-zombies-raising-alarm-global-climate-impact/
03:24 TR Bot; AI and cloud zombies: Raising the alarm about global climate impact - SiliconANGLE
03:24 TR News; Sparky news 2023/03 https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-news-2023-03/
03:24 TR Bot; Sparky news 2023/03 SparkyLinux
03:25 TR News; How to Install Krita on Ubuntu/Linux https://trendoceans.com/install-krita-on-ubuntu-linux/
03:25 TR Bot; How to Install Krita on Ubuntu/Linux - TREND OCEANS
03:28 TR News; (NEW): $70 RISC-V Computer from Pine64 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/_70_RISC_V_Computer_from_Pine64.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/_70_RISC_V_Computer_from_Pine64.gmi
03:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines $70 RISC-V Computer from Pine64
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; t0talist: maybve for you? ^
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; risc-v
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; open ISA
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; european
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; can run various OSes
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; cheap
03:30 TR News; Hello world! Bruce Perens now on WordPress https://perens.com/2023/04/01/hello-world/
03:30 TR Bot; world! Bruce Perens
03:31 TR News; Junichi Uekawa: April. http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2023-Apr-2.html.en#2023-Apr-2-07:49:17
03:31 TR Bot; April.
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03:33 TR News; Debian Brasil: First 2023 translation workshop from the pt_BR team https://debianbrasil.org.br/blog/first-2023-translation-workshop-from-the-pt-BR-team/
03:33 TR Bot; First 2023 translation workshop from the pt_BR team Debian Brasil
03:33 TR News; Russ Allbery: rra-c-util 10.4 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2023-03/001.html
03:34 TR Bot; Eagle's Path: rra-c-util 10.4 (2023-03-31)
03:34 TR News; Linux Lite 6.4 Released, Based on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS https://www.omglinux.com/linux-lite-6-4-released/
03:34 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.4 Released, Based on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS - OMG! Linux
03:35 TR News; Install and Use bottom on Ubuntu / Debian yet another process/system visualization https://unixcop.com/install-and-use-bottom-on-ubuntu-debian-yet-another-process-system-visualization/
03:35 TR Bot; Install and Use bottom on Ubuntu / Debian - yet another process/system visualization - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
03:36 TR News; European Commissions Margrethe Vestager: Europe must de-risk, not de-couple, from China https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/european-commissions-margrethe-vestager-europe-must-de-risk-not-de-couple-from-china/
03:36 TR Bot; European Commissions Margrethe Vestager: Europe must de-risk, not de-couple, from China - Atlantic Council
03:36 TR News; Ban private jets of rich people, instead https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/01/world/europe/paris-electrict-scooter-referendum.html
03:36 TR Bot; Green Savior or Deadly Menace? Paris Votes on E-Scooter Ban - The New York Times
03:37 TR News; Linus Tech (Illiteracy) Tips, LTT, Buys Phoronix Media http://techrights.org/2023/03/31/linus-and-michael/
03:37 TR Bot; Linus Tech (Illiteracy) Tips, LTT, Buys Phoronix Media | Techrights
03:37 TR News; Decided to Quit Debian and Use WSL Instead (Best of Both Worlds) http://techrights.org/2023/03/31/best-of-both-worlds/
03:37 TR Bot; Decided to Quit Debian and Use WSL Instead (Best of Both Worlds) | Techrights
03:37 TR News; Microsoft Has Laid Off Lennart Poettering and Hired Elon Musk http://techrights.org/2023/03/31/microsoft-fires-lennart-poettering/
03:37 TR Bot; Microsoft Has Laid Off Lennart Poettering and Hired Elon Musk | Techrights
03:39 TR News; Repurposing Hotel Keycards https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/recycling-hotel-keycards/
03:39 TR Bot; Repurposing Hotel Keycards Buttondown
03:40 TR News; How to Properly Use Reflection in Java http://knowledgebasement.com/how-to-properly-use-reflection-in-java/
03:40 TR Bot; How to Properly Use Reflection in Java |
03:41 TR News; How to Host A Website for Free at Your Home Linux System https://www.tecmint.com/host-website-locally/
03:41 TR Bot; How to Host A Website On Your Home Linux System for Free
03:42 TR News; 10 Tweaks to Supercharge Gedit as Code Editor https://itsfoss.com/gedit-tweaks/
03:42 TR Bot; 10 Tweaks to Supercharge Gedit as Code Editor
03:46 TR News; (NEW): Debian: Sparky Report, git-cinnabar 0.6.0, rra-c-util 10.4, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Debian_Sparky_Report_git_cinnabar_0_6_0_rra_c_util_10_4_and_Mor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Debian_Sparky_Report_git_cinnabar_0_6_0_rra_c_util_10_4_and_Mor.gmi
03:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian: Sparky Report, git-cinnabar 0.6.0, rra-c-util 10.4, and More
03:46 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.gmi
03:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
03:49 TR News; Prank: HOLLYWOOD, CA. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE https://www.davidrevoy.com/article961/hollywood-ca-for-immediate-release
03:49 TR Bot; HOLLYWOOD, CA. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - David Revoy
03:49 TR News; 18 Years Later https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/04/01/old-photos-and-memories/
03:49 TR Bot; Blog Archive 18 Years Later
03:55 TR News; T-Firefly reveals modular PC with Rockchip SoC https://linuxgizmos.com/t-firefly-reveals-modular-pc-with-rockchip-soc/
03:55 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/t-firefly-reveals-modular-pc-with-rockchip-soc/ )
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03:59 yuhong; http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/
03:59 TR Bot; Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:59 yuhong; Actually in many browsers you can block CAs and certificates.
04:00 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: good question
04:00 t0talist; currently, RISC-V hasn't got any clean bootstrapping path
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04:01 TR News; When Instagrammers go off the beaten track, theres a price to pay https://www.theage.com.au/culture/books/when-instagrammers-go-off-the-beaten-track-there-s-a-price-to-pay-20230318-p5ct9a.html
04:01 TR Bot; Photo-hungry tourists have little conscience or conservation awareness in the hunt for the perfect snap
04:01 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: furthermore, the relevant (linux) kernel-versions for RISC-V can't be compiled/linked/assembled with tcc-toolchain
04:02 t0talist; as a consequence, RISC-V isn't desirable, if the "free software" stack for it doesn't pass minimum acceptance criteria
04:02 t0talist; this isn't specific to RISC-V, regardless of it's advantages over other ISAs
04:03 t0talist; the whole infrastructure/supply-chains/system-integration for it, isn't ready
04:03 TR News; "Health professionals are concerned about a dip in vaccination rates ahead of winter, predicting the next flu season will be as bad, or worse than before the pandemic." https://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/doctors-sound-alarm-about-flu-season-20230402-p5cxcc.html
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04:03 TR Bot; Video: Doctors sound alarm about flu season
04:03 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: and the parts which are ready, built upon compromised toolchains/kernels/etc
04:03 yuhong; To be honest, the entire idea of CAs dates back to the 1990s.
04:03 MinceR; it's a bad idea
04:04 MinceR; PKI is very vulnerable, especially to states
04:04 t0talist; bootstrappable.org, a rather important GNU project, doesn't bother with any other system than x86 yet, for obvious reasons
04:04 schestowitz[TR]; why?
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; yuhong: straw man
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; nobody talked about the age
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; enjoy your xi-controlled or putin-controlled or trumo-controlled CA
04:06 mjg59_; What are your concerns about CAs that aren't mitigated via CT?
04:06 MinceR; or a set of CAs controlled by various entities, each of which can sign a certificate for any domain
04:07 *MinceR scans mjg59_ in a CT machine
04:07 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, April 01, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:07 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: if you do it often enough, there will be tumours
04:07 TR News; Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt
04:07 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:08 schestowitz[TR]; computer tomboy
04:08 yuhong; MinceR: I wonder what do you think of CT BTW.
04:08 yuhong; https://certificate.transparency.dev/
04:08 TR Bot; Certificate Transparency : Certificate Transparency
04:08 mjg59_; Given browsers will reject certs that haven't been validated via CT, what's the threat model?
04:09 mjg59_; Someone issues an invalid cert, logs it, it gets immediately flagged and that CA gets distrusted?
04:09 mjg59_; Or doesn't log it, in which case it doesn't work?
04:09 TR News; National 'security' expert: REVOKE THE CERTIFICATE of these missiles, "block" GPS https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/high-activity-spotted-at-north-korea-nuclear-complex-after-kims-bomb-fuel-order-says-report
04:10 TR Bot; High activity spotted at North Korea nuclear complex after Kim's bomb-fuel order, says report | The Straits Times
04:10 mjg59_; There are obvious reasons to worry about CAs being compelled to act against the interests of users, which is why a whole bunch of infrastructure has been built to prevent that sort of abuse
04:11 mjg59_; So, what's the actual concern?
04:11 TR News; Download Video & extract only a specific Time of it http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/30575/download-video-extract-only-a-specific-time-of-it
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04:11 TR Bot; Download Video & extract only a specific Time of it Using sed
04:11 TR News; How to Center New Windows in Ubuntu (Hidden Setting) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/04/center-new-windows-ubuntu-gnome
04:11 TR Bot; How to Center New Windows in Ubuntu (Hidden Setting) - OMG! Ubuntu!
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04:13 TR News; Kids who played sports before pandemic did better during lockdowns: Study https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/23285-kids-who-played-sports-before-pandemic-did-better-during-lockdowns-study.html
04:13 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/23285-kids-who-played-sports-before-pandemic-did-better-during-lockdowns-study.html )
04:13 mjg59_; Does https://tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/297876977 work in here as well?
04:14 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: i know
04:14 TR News; Read how mindfulness activities can play important role in improving mental health https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/23286-read-how-mindfulness-activities-can-play-important-role-in-improving-mental-health.html
04:14 MinceR; i'll have to look at this particular flavor of CT
04:15 mjg59_; Sorry, have you spent years complaining about CAs with no idea of what's happened in the past decade
04:15 mjg59_; This stuff isn't new
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04:15 MinceR; i've seen plenty of hype around PKI, most of which didn't really seem to deal with the root of the problem
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04:15 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
04:16 yuhong; MinceR: As a side note, do you like or hate spinning rust?
04:16 MinceR; i guess i don't mind it for archival/backup purposes
04:16 MinceR; as external drives
04:16 MinceR; i don't really want it in my computers, unless it's a file server
04:16 mjg59_; MinceR: The idea is that yes, you can't trust individuals (or individual entities), but you can enforce transparency that makes it easy to identify when anyone violates that trust
04:16 TR News; Pico Bricks Review: Great STEM Learning Platform https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pico-bricks-review-great-stem-learning-platform
04:16 TR Bot; Pico Bricks Review: Great STEM Learning Platform | Tom's Hardware
04:17 MinceR; mjg59_: how quickly?
04:17 mjg59_; MinceR: Any attacker gets one shot at issuing malicious certificates for a short window of time, and then that CA loses trust forever
04:17 mjg59_; MinceR: Depends whether the site owner is monitoring the logs or not
04:17 t0talist; regardless of CAs, the TLS implementations are, weird, if you wanted to establish a local certificate store, of trusted certs, with libressl/openssl i couldn't find an easy solution, to store certs locally and label them trusted if present
04:17 TR News; Too much of tomshardware has become just sales/marketing in disguise. 20 years ago the site was very different.
04:17 t0talist; similar to ssh... yep, i trust this fingerprint, save it, done...
04:18 t0talist; the openssl-implementation itself, is weird, to say the least
04:18 t0talist; in comparison
04:18 mjg59_; Oh, sorry, I wasn't entirely accurate in my assertion that browsers check for CT validation - Firefox apparently still doesn't(!)
04:18 mjg59_; I'm genuinely surprised by that
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04:21 mjg59_; Anyway hmm looks like TechrightsBot-tr can be DoSed pretty easily. Unfortunate.
04:22 TR News; X88Pro 13 8K TV box runs Android 13 on Rockchip RK3528 SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/04/01/x88pro-13-8k-tv-box-android-13-rockchip-rk3528-soc/
04:22 TR Bot; X88Pro 13 8K TV box runs Android 13 on Rockchip RK3528 SoC - CNX Software
04:23 TR News; Using Linux grep and Windows findstr to Manipulate Files, (Fri, Mar 31st) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29696
04:24 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
04:24 t0talist; a local trusted certificate store, would be an additional attack vector, putting too much trust into users though... so it's probably better the way it is
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: quit trolling and changing rhe subject
04:24 TR News; Demystifying Ubuntu: A guide to choosing the right version for you https://www.fosslinux.com/109208/demystifying-ubuntu-a-guide-to-choosing-the-right-version-for-you.htm
04:24 TR Bot; Ubuntu Selection Simplified: Finding Your Ideal Linux Flavor
04:24 TR News; Streamlining your tmux workflow by synchronizing panes https://www.fosslinux.com/105799/streamlining-your-tmux-workflow-by-synchronizing-panes.htm
04:24 TR Bot; Streamlining Your Tmux Workflow by Synchronizing Panes
04:24 TR News; Effortlessly sending commands to multiple tmux panes https://www.fosslinux.com/105802/effortlessly-sending-commands-to-multiple-tmux-panes.htm
04:24 TR Bot; Effortlessly Sending Commands to Multiple Tmux Panes
04:25 t0talist; an even worse problem, may arise, to navigate "the web" without any support for recent TLS versions; most sites nowadays insist on TLS-session established, even when i didn't want to
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: you don't know what DoS means
04:25 MinceR; wrong nick
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; oops
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; sorry
04:26 TR News; How to Use RPM Command in Linux https://linuxhint.com/use-rpm-command-linux/
04:26 TR Bot; How to Use RPM Command in Linux
04:26 t0talist; meaning, you do need a portable implementation of TLS, such as bearssl.org, neat little project i must admit
04:26 TR News; Is There a goto Statement in Bash https://linuxhint.com/goto-statement-bash/
04:26 TR Bot; Is There a goto Statement in Bash
04:27 TR News; What Does -z Mean in Bash https://linuxhint.com/z-mean-in-bash/
04:27 TR Bot; What Does -z Mean in Bash
04:27 TR News; How Do I Configure sources.list on Debian 11 https://linuxhint.com/configure-sources-list-debian/
04:27 TR Bot; How Do I Configure sources.list on Debian 11
04:28 TR News; How to Configure Automated Security Updates on Debian 11 https://linuxhint.com/configure-automatic-security-updates-debian/
04:28 TR Bot; How to Configure Automated Security Updates on Debian 11
04:28 TR News; How to use binary logging in MySQL https://linuxconcept.com/how-to-use-binary-logging-in-mysql/
04:28 TR Bot; How to use binary logging in MySQL
04:29 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: It can be provided with input that causes it to cease providing service, which is absolutely a DoS
04:30 TR News; Pakistan Posts Highest-Ever Inflation In March https://www.rferl.org/a/pakistan-record-inflation/32344940.html
04:30 TR Bot; Pakistan Posts Highest-Ever Inflation In March
04:31 schestowitz[TR]; you could paste in your child porn URLs
04:31 schestowitz[TR]; and do a lot more dmage
04:31 schestowitz[TR]; and put the whole server at risk
04:32 TR News; Ship of Fools: The Race to Ban TikTok https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2023/4/ship-of-fools-the-race-to-ban-tiktok
04:32 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Ship of Fools: The Race to Ban TikTok
04:32 schestowitz[TR]; there is a mitigation for attacks like these
04:32 schestowitz[TR]; which we used until last year or 2021
04:32 schestowitz[TR]; you were muted
04:32 MinceR; lol
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; then you started troilling users
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; like direct messaging ryan
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; asking him about kiddie porn
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; "hey kid... "
04:33 TR News; MySQL Binary Logging https://linuxconcept.com/mysql-binary-logging/
04:33 TR Bot; MySQL Binary Logging
04:34 TR News; How To Install FreeIPA on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-freeipa-ubuntu-22-04/
04:34 TR Bot; How To Install FreeIPA on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
04:34 TR News; How To Install Neovim on Rocky Linux 9 https://idroot.us/install-neovim-rocky-linux-9/
04:34 TR Bot; How To Install Neovim on Rocky Linux 9 - idroot
04:34 TR News; How To Install Fail2ban on Fedora 37 https://idroot.us/install-fail2ban-fedora-37/
04:34 TR Bot; How To Install Fail2ban on Fedora 37 - idroot
04:34 yuhong; Background: I was talking about "Google survelliance" which Shane was responsible not long ago.
04:34 TR News; How To Install Nomacs on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-nomacs-ubuntu-22-04/
04:34 TR Bot; How To Install Nomacs on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
04:35 TR News; Not far from reality, not satire. These judges are corporate puppets. Some still work for the corporations they're meant to rule on. https://ffii.org/unified-patent-court-will-replace-its-judges-and-lawyers-with-ai-to-make-justice-finally-affordable-to-smes/
04:35 TR Bot; Unified Patent Court will replace its judges and lawyers with AI to make justice finally affordable to SMEs | FFII
04:37 TR News; Arduino IDE Cant Find ESP8266WiFi.h: No such file or directory https://linuxhint.com/esp8266-wifih-no-such-file-directory-error/
04:37 TR Bot; Arduino IDE Cant Find ESP8266WiFi.h: No such file or directory
04:37 TR News; What is String equals() in Java https://linuxhint.com/string-equals-in-java/
04:37 TR Bot; What is String equals() in Java
04:37 TR News; Arrays.stream() Method in Java https://linuxhint.com/arrays-stream-method-in-java/
04:37 TR Bot; Arrays.stream() Method in Java
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; yuhong: you're an idiotic chatbot knockofff
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; 15+ years ago is not "not long ago"
04:38 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
04:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
04:38 yuhong; The only reason Google servers booted from spinning rust was there was no other reasonable choice in the 1990s.
04:39 yuhong; (and yes they were still doing it 10 years ago)
04:40 TR News; Chinas art factory painters turn from fakes to originals amid booming domestic market https://hongkongfp.com/2023/04/01/chinas-art-factory-painters-turn-from-fakes-to-originals-amid-booming-domestic-market/
04:40 TR Bot; China's 'art factory' painters turn from fakes to originals amid booming domestic market - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
04:40 MinceR; kinky
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; "them still doin' it"
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; soon there will be a little rust-putin
04:42 yuhong; MinceR: If Google was designed today there would be no way the servers would be booting from spinning rust, right?
04:42 TR News; "Hong Kong has long been renowned for its huge fiscal reserves and prudence in public spending. Ahead of the Covid-19 pandemic, in January 2020, the government had nearly HK$1.2 trillion in fiscal reserves, the equivalent of 22 months of public expenditure." https://hongkongfp.com/2023/04/01/explainer-why-hong-kong-is-constitutionally-obliged-to-balance-the-books/
04:42 TR Bot; Explainer: Why Hong Kong is constitutionally obliged to balance the books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
04:43 MinceR; yuhong: why are you asking me?
04:43 MinceR; you can even netboot a server if you want to
04:43 psydruid; why does this chaffbot keep going over the same irrelevant things over and over?
04:43 MinceR; or from a flash card
04:43 TR News; April Fools Collection https://mwl.io/archives/22675
04:43 TR Bot; April Fools Collection Michael W Lucas
04:44 TR News; Is that because more people quit looking for jobs? Because not many openings exist? You measure the wrong thing. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/unemployment-in-mexico-reaches-historic-low/
04:44 TR Bot; Unemployment in Mexico reaches historic low
04:44 yuhong; Of course, in 2000 NAND flash wasn't as good as it is now.
04:44 psydruid; with an unhealthy obsession with Google too
04:45 TR News; US citizens living abroad still must pay the IRS taxes. Is that fair? https://mexiconewsdaily.com/community/us-citizens-abroad-must-pay-irs-is-fair/
04:45 TR Bot; US citizens living abroad still must pay the IRS taxes. Is that fair?
04:45 MinceR; they probably do pay for unhealthy obsessions with gulag at MICROS~1
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04:46 yuhong; I am of course talking about Shane here.
04:46 TR News; Capitalisms Definition is NOT Innocent https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/01/capitalisms-definition-is-not-innocent/
04:46 TR Bot; Capitalisms Definition is NOT Innocent neritam
04:46 psydruid; Gulag will easily outlive MICROS~1
04:46 MinceR; not necessarily
04:46 MinceR; we could all be fried by a gamma ray burst
04:46 psydruid; that's true
04:47 t0talist; they're all dead already; because they can't abandon the junk they vendor-locked against themselves
04:47 t0talist; they couldn't just say, meh, it's all doomed, let's play with the tiny-basic paper tape from evil BillG
04:47 TR News; "In this blog post, I explore who are the Twitter Blue subscribers. It is not celebrities, businesses or governments. It is our regular old Joe with fewer than a hundred followers" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/03/who-are-twitter-blue-users/
04:47 TR Bot; are Twitter Blue Users? | R-bloggers
04:48 t0talist; and the required hardware for at least this, isn't produced anymore either
04:48 psydruid; Gulag has the talent but has just chosen to be evil
04:48 t0talist; so, ibm ms mapple wintel computer, are all nuckling from the same clusterfcked supply chains, which will collapse
04:48 psydruid; MICROS~1 has no talent and can only do evil
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; don't be eVel
04:49 t0talist; they can't abandone the junk they introduced themselves, even if they wanted to, it must be maintained, for all eternity
04:49 TR News; Pets Reduce Allergy Risk For Kids: Just Don't Get a Hamster https://www.sciencealert.com/pets-reduce-allergy-risk-for-kids-just-dont-get-a-hamster
04:49 TR Bot; Reduce Allergy Risk For Kids: Just Don't Get a Hamster : ScienceAlert
04:49 t0talist; posix 32bit, may put an end to this, i hope
04:49 yuhong; My point is that "don't be evil" search engine was designed when most PCs booted from spinning rust.
04:50 t0talist; spinning rust?
04:51 yuhong; Exactly my point. There are now papers on SSD based search engines.
04:51 TR News; Java Syntax for print() and println() https://linuxhint.com/java-syntax-for-print-and-println/
04:51 TR Bot; Java Syntax for print() and println()
04:52 TR News; How to Compare Two BigDecimals in Java https://linuxhint.com/compare-two-bigdecimals-in-java/
04:52 TR Bot; How to Compare Two BigDecimals in Java
04:52 yuhong; Back when Shane had Google ads on this site most PCs still booted from spinning rust in fact.
04:52 MinceR; i'm still not quite sure how CT would protect against a state creating burner leaf CA-s and moving on to the next once one gets its certificates revoked by its parent CA
04:53 TR News; 'A polarised debate': Paris to vote on banning self-service e-scooters https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230401-a-polarised-debate-paris-to-vote-on-banning-self-service-e-scooters
04:53 TR Bot; 'A polarised debate': Paris to vote on banning self-service e-scooters
04:53 psydruid; Gulag ads that nuked your Backdoors, that's so evil
04:53 mjg59_; MinceR: You don't get to just create a CA
04:53 mjg59_; It's an astonishingly tedious process
04:53 TR News; Disinformation in Twitter will only increase now. Leave. https://www.france24.com/en/technology/20230401-musk-to-go-ahead-with-new-controversial-paiement-based-verification-policy
04:53 TR Bot; Musk defends paid verification for Twitter as blue tick ultimatum looms
04:53 mjg59_; Even by government standards
04:54 TR News; How to detect 'deepfakes' https://observers.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20230329-how-to-detect-deepfakes
04:54 TR Bot; How to detect 'deepfakes' - Truth or Fake
04:54 MinceR; states have access to lots of money that they extract from their subjects
04:54 psydruid; "paiement"
04:54 mjg59_; It's not a financial thing
04:54 psydruid; someone needs to get a new dictionary
04:54 MinceR; and there's no practical limit to how many fraudulent certificates such a CA could issue in the time before it's found out and shut down
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; there is no qualify control
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; and has not been for ages
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; CAs number went down
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; still goes down
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; consolidation
04:55 MinceR; also, sounds like yuhong wants to sell a search engine to us
04:55 mjg59_; There literally is quality control!
04:55 MinceR; not sure why
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; mostly pentagon vounching for pentagon
04:55 mjg59_; There's more quality control than there's ever been!
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; adn systems/browsers enforcing this hegemony
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; you can ls -la | wc -l the number of certs on the system
04:56 mjg59_; The baseline requirements CAs need to adhere to keep getting stricter!
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; and see them going down and down
04:56 psydruid; there is trust!
04:56 psydruid; and there is spinning rust!
04:56 MinceR; spinning trust
04:56 psydruid; we're all set now
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04:56 schestowitz[TR]; TRust languagfe
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; da fyucher!
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; anything else is transphobia
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; says gulagboy
04:56 MinceR; the x-ray sources and detectors are also spinning in a CT
04:57 yuhong; Part of the reason why I pay attention to https://search.marginalia.nu/ is the hardware problem it shows.
04:57 TR Bot; Marginalia Search
04:57 TR News; Laboratory for Dismantling Democracy https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/01/laboratory-for-dismantling-democracy/
04:57 TR Bot; Laboratory for Dismantling Democracy neritam
04:58 TR News; How To Echo Shell Commands as They Are Executed in Bash https://linuxhint.com/echo-shell-commands-as-executed-bash/
04:58 TR Bot; How To Echo Shell Commands as They Are Executed in Bash
04:58 yuhong; MinceR: I wonder if you have ever seen https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~jhe/fast20-wiser.pdf
04:59 TR News; Microsoft blocked for privacy abuses https://www.securityweek.com/italy-temporarily-blocks-chatgpt-over-privacy-concerns/
04:59 TR Bot; Temporarily Blocks ChatGPT Over Privacy Concerns - SecurityWeek
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 MinceR; have you ever seen a flower?
04:59 TR News; How to Initialize Vector in C++ https://linuxhint.com/initialize-vector-in-cpp/
04:59 TR Bot; How to Initialize Vector in C++
04:59 TR News; How to Convert a Python Program to C/C++ Code https://linuxhint.com/convert-python-program-to-cpp/
04:59 TR Bot; How to Convert a Python Program to C/C++ Code
05:00 MinceR; yuhong: so, is bng going to deliver useless irrelevant results much more quickly now or what?
05:01 yuhong; Not talking about bing here of course.
05:02 TR News; What is cout in C++ Language https://linuxhint.com/cout-cpp/
05:02 TR Bot; What is cout in C++ Language
05:02 psydruid; let's launch MICROS~1 bingbows
05:02 TR News; Little Endian vs Big Endian in C https://linuxhint.com/little-endian-vs-big-endian-c/
05:02 TR Bot; Little Endian vs Big Endian in C
05:03 psydruid; the bot in botNET
05:03 MinceR; run it on a used pc bought from Michaelsoft Binbows
05:03 yuhong; That being said, there is many domain verified certificates these days.
05:04 TR News; Activists sue China's education ministry over rainbow flag reprimand https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/lgbtq-03312023131243.html
05:04 TR Bot; Activists sue China's education ministry over rainbow flag reprimand Radio Free Asia
05:05 TR News; Russian Pianist, Rock Group Face More Pressure As Kremlin Seeks To Crush Dissent https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-pianist-rock-group-pressure-ukraine-war-criticism/32345159.html
05:05 TR Bot; Russian Pianist, Rock Group Face More Pressure As Kremlin Seeks To Crush Dissent
05:06 TR News; UK Government announces plans for a clean future and reduced household bills https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/04/uk-government-announces-plans-for-a-clean-future-and-reduced-household-bills/
05:06 TR Bot; UK Government announces plans for a clean future and reduced household bills - JURIST - News
05:07 TR News; This One Strategy Will Reveal if Someone's Lying With 80% Accuracy, Study Finds https://www.sciencealert.com/this-one-strategy-will-reveal-if-someones-lying-with-80-accuracy-study-finds
05:07 TR Bot; One Strategy Will Reveal if Someone's Lying With 80% Accuracy, Study Finds : ScienceAlert
05:08 TR News; A Musical War of the Worlds https://feed.tedium.co/link/15204/16052836/jeff-wayne-war-of-the-worlds-history
05:08 TR Bot; Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds: The Rock Opera That Shaped the Form
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05:27 TR News; (NEW): 15 Common Ubuntu Terms, Jargon, and Lingo: Explained http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/15_Common_Ubuntu_Terms_Jargon_and_Lingo_Explained.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/15_Common_Ubuntu_Terms_Jargon_and_Lingo_Explained.gmi
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05:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines 15 Common Ubuntu Terms, Jargon, and Lingo: Explained
05:35 TR News; "In this quick how-to, we are going to explain how to fix this by installing the iDRAC service module. We are going to use Ubuntu 22.04 LTS as our OS." https://www.servethehome.com/how-to-install-the-dell-idrac-service-module/
05:35 TR Bot; How to Install the Dell iDRAC Service Module
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05:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
05:41 TR News; Bing fell below 3% globally https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/#monthly-200901-202304 MICROSOFT-BRIBED MEDIA: GULAG IS DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!! WE HAVE A CHAFFBOT!!! RAH RAH RAH. Market share... falling. and Bing LAYOFFS.
05:41 TR Bot; Search Engine Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
05:52 TR News; (UPDATED): Linux Lite 6.4 Released with Updated Ubuntu LTS Base, Under the hood updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Linux_Lite_6_4_Released_with_Updated_Ubuntu_LTS_Base_Under_the_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Linux_Lite_6_4_Released_with_Updated_Ubuntu_LTS_Base_Under_the_.gmi
05:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Lite 6.4 Released with Updated Ubuntu LTS Base, Under the hood updates
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:04 TR News; Links 02/04/2023: GNUnet 0.19.4 and Pine64/RISC-V SoC | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/pine64-riscv/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/pine64-riscv/
06:04 TR Bot; Links 02/04/2023: GNUnet 0.19.4 and Pine64/RISC-V SoC | Techrights
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06:14 TR News; COVID-19 was costly (patent licences), but to oligarchy it was helpful financially. Oligarchs shaped the policy. It helped them "balance" the budget associated with National Insurance/pensions. People die younger and millions of pensioners died/die prematurely.
06:16 TR News; Mobile OS Market Share (as Judged by Web Access) More Than Double All Versions of Windows Combined | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/mobile-os-market-share/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/mobile-os-market-share/
06:16 TR Bot; Mobile OS Market Share (as Judged by Web Access) More Than Double All Versions of Windows Combined | Techrights
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07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:16 TR News; Mobile OS Market Share (as Judged by Web Access) More Than Double All Versions of Windows Combined | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/mobile-os-market-share/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/mobile-os-market-share/
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 TR News; "One of the unusual things about HTTP/3 is that it doesn't use TCP but instead a new network transport protocol, QUIC" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/AvoidingHTTP3ForNow | Source: University of Toronto
09:20 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/AvoidingHTTP3ForNow
09:20 TR News; "A member of our Storage Team, Cloud Engineer Goran Mekic, shared that documentation and books on DTrace were not terribly helpful to him in finding out what function he should trace." https://axcient.com/blog/using-dtrace-to-find-block-sizes-of-zfs-nfs-and-iscsi/ | Source: Axcient
09:20 TR Bot; DTrace to find block sizes of ZFS, NFS and iSCSI - Axcient
09:21 TR News; "The secret ingredient is Tasker" https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/recycling-hotel-keycards/ | Source: Buttondown
09:21 TR Bot; Repurposing Hotel Keycards Buttondown
09:22 TR News; "RISC-V (pronounced risk-five) is an open-source processor spec designed to be modular, extensible" https://www.omglinux.com/star64-is-a-risc-v-single-board-pc/ | Source: OMG! Linux
09:22 TR Bot; $70 RISC-V Computer from Pine64 Goes on Sale April 4 - OMG! Linux
09:22 TR News; "There are lots of designs out there to build electric planes that carry a small LiPo cell and a timer circuit" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/supercapacitor-free-flight-planes-hackspace-65/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
09:22 TR Bot; Supercapacitor free flight planes | HackSpace #65 - Raspberry Pi
09:23 TR News; "The recommendations algorithm source code explains why tweets appear on a user's "For you" timeline." https://www.dw.com/en/twitter-reveals-code-showing-why-tweets-pop-up/a-65204619 | Source: Deutsche Welle
09:23 TR Bot; reveals code showing why tweets pop-up DW 04/01/2023
09:25 TR News; "The International Pascal Congress (IPC) is an international forum dedicated to bringing together the different players in the software industry whose technologies are based on the Pascal family of programming languages." https://www.pascalcongress.com/index.html | Source: International Pascal Congress
09:25 TR Bot; International Pascal Congress
09:27 TR News; "[thing] is now about [opposite thing]" https://idiomdrottning.org/a1 | Source: Idiomdrottning
09:27 TR Bot; Have an A1 day
09:28 TR News; "The third is deeply disturbing. It is a compelling dive into the community aspect of radicalisation." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/04/book-review-radicalized-cory-doctorow/ | Source: Terence Eden
09:28 TR Bot; Book Review: Radicalized Cory Doctorow Terence Edens Blog
09:29 TR News; "devices meet specific cybersecurity guidelines" https://www.databreaches.net/fda-requires-medical-devices-be-secured-against-cyberattacks/ | Source: Data Breaches
09:29 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/fda-requires-medical-devices-be-secured-against-cyberattacks/ )
09:29 TR News; "the sweeping $1.7 trillion federal omnibus spending bill" https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/tech/fda-medical-devices-secured-cyberattacks/index.html | Source: CNN
09:29 TR Bot; FDA requires medical devices be secured against cyberattacks | CNN Business
09:30 TR News; Windows TCO: "DataBreaches had noticed a listing on LockBit3.0s site on January 29." https://www.databreaches.net/todays-dont-say-ransomware-award-goes-to/ | Source: Data Breaches
09:30 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/todays-dont-say-ransomware-award-goes-to/ )
09:33 TR News; "By installing the Facebook Pixel on its Website, (Orlando Health) effectively planted a bug on (W.W.) and Class Members web browsers and compelled them to disclose their communications with (Orlando Health) to Facebook" https://floridapolitics.com/archives/598399-orlando-health-accused-of-sharing-patients-information-with-facebook-lawsuit-says/ | Source: Extensive-Enterprises
09:33 TR Bot; Orlando Health accused of sharing patients' information with Facebook, lawsuit says
09:34 TR News; "The researchers have published an open source tool called MacStealer to test Wi-Fi networks for the vulnerability." https://www.computerworld.com/article/3692434/researchers-warn-of-wi-fi-security-flaw-affecting-ios-android-linux.html | Source: Computer World
09:34 TR Bot; warn of Wi-Fi security flaw affecting iOS, Android, Linux | Computerworld
09:41 TR News; "I stopped using Citibank for travel as soon as the sale was announced, because we all knew this would happen." https://rubenerd.com/citibank-australia-were-pleased/ | Source: Ruben Schade
09:41 TR Bot; Citibank Australia were pleased to close our account
09:45 TR News; "GnuCash is an accounting software that offers basic accounting functionality and is completely free" https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/small-business/accounting/gnucash-review/ | Source: The Motley Fool
09:45 TR Bot; GnuCash Review 2023: Features, Pricing & More
09:46 TR News; "Apple, at roughly [faked] $2.4 trillion, and Microsoft, at [faked] $2.1 trillion, are so large that, taken together" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/how-big-tech-camouflaged-wall-streets-crisis/articleshow/99165905.cms | Source: India Times
09:46 TR Bot; wall street: How Big Tech camouflaged Wall Street's crisis - The Economic Times
09:47 TR News; "TikToks proposed $1.5 billion plan to avoid a U.S. ban would cordon off American user data in Texas-based Oracle servers." https://cyberscoop.com/white-house-tiktok-negotiations-congress-china/ | Source: Scoop News Group
09:47 TR Bot; House talks with TikTok stall after blistering congressional hearing | CyberScoop
09:47 TR News; "In addition to Mucha, TikTok tapped former Obama advisers David Plouffe and Jim Messina to prep Shou Zi Chew, CEO of TikTok" https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/tiktok-zenia-mucha-adviser-us-app-ban-1235570149/ | Source: Variety
09:47 TR Bot; Enlists Ex-Disney Communications Chief Zenia Mucha as Adviser - Variety
09:48 TR News; "Americans who are aware that TikTok is owned by the ByteDance are particularly likely to support banning it" https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/tiktok-ban-survey-half-americans-support-1235570024/ | Source: Variety
09:48 TR Bot; US Ban Survey: Half of American Adults Favor Ban, Pew Finds - Variety
09:48 TR News; "These so-called concerns seem to entirely revolve around the idea that because TikTok is owned by ByteDance" https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2023/4/ship-of-fools-the-race-to-ban-tiktok | Source: Jay Little
09:48 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Ship of Fools: The Race to Ban TikTok
09:49 TR News; "Since 1999, security researchers have logged at least 189 vulnerabilities in Exchange Server" https://cyberscoop.com/software-liability-biden-microsoft-vulnerabilities/ | Source: Scoop News Group
09:49 TR Bot; a White House initiative compel tech companies to write safer code? | CyberScoop
09:50 TR News; Tesla lost half its so-called 'market value' in a few months. So should GAFAM. They overvalued about a TENFOLD.
09:52 TR News; "The new strategy "is the only realistic way to address advanced HEY HI bot swarms taking over" https://www.axios.com/2023/04/02/trump-indictment-2024-campaign-donations | Source: Axios
09:52 TR Bot; Trump raises over $5 million in first 48 hours after indictment news
09:52 TR News; "any layoff would necessarily trigger the WARN Act protections is not the case" https://www.axios.com/2023/04/01/tiktok-warn-act-layoffs-tech-experts-true-false | Source: Axios
09:52 TR Bot; Experts debunk viral TikTok videos about WARN Act and major layoffs
09:52 TR News; Censorship https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/03/31/russia-is-persecuting-dissenters-by-taking-away-their-children | Source: The Economist
09:52 TR Bot; is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children | The Economist
09:53 TR News; "authorities in the city of Faizabad, in Badakhshan province, shuttered the broadcasters operations" https://cpj.org/2023/03/taliban-shut-down-women-run-broadcaster-radio-sada-e-banowan-seal-office/ | Source: CPJ
09:53 TR Bot; Taliban shut down women-run broadcaster Radio Sada e Banowan, seal office - Committee to Protect Journalists
09:53 TR News; "laws and regulations of the Islamic Emirate" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taliban-afghanistan-women-only-radio-station-closed-music-ramadan-rcna77763 | Source: NBC
09:53 TR Bot; Taliban shutters women-run radio station for playing music
09:53 TR News; ">A Moscow court on Friday ordered Gershkovich to be held in pre-trial detention until May 29" https://www.voanews.com/a/let-him-go-biden-says-as-russia-orders-american-journalist-held-until-may-/7031267.html | Source: VOA News
09:53 TR Bot; Let Him Go, Biden Says as Russia Orders American Journalist Held Until May
09:56 TR News; "Since then, though, the Amazon Labor Union has gained little ground." https://text.npr.org/1165294695 | Source: NPR
09:56 TR Bot; Labor's labors lost? A year after stunning victory at Amazon, unions are stalled
09:56 TR News; "Its a great idea, but for traffic safety advocates, the commissioners words sounded like a bitter joke." https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/nypds-illegal-parking-needs-to-be-curbed.html | Source: NYMag
09:56 TR Bot; NYPDs Illegal Parking Needs to Be Curbed
09:59 TR News; "Effective 31 March 2024, all new Cross Connects globally will be Single-Mode Fiber (SMF)" https://rubenerd.com/equinix-retiring-copper/ | Source: Ruben Schade
09:59 TR Bot; Equinix retiring copper
09:59 TR News; "RTs decision to take the Long Wave service off air is based on three interrelated factors: [...]" https://about.rte.ie/2023/03/31/rte-radio-1-to-cease-broadcasting-on-long-wave/ | Source: RTE
09:59 TR Bot; RT RADIO 1 TO CEASE BROADCASTING ON LONG WAVE About RT
09:59 TR News; <h5><a href="https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2023/03/tribal-nations-face-challenges-in-accessing-and-maximizing-funding-connected-america-conference/">Tribal Nations Face Challenges in Accessing and Maximizing Funding: Connected America Conference</a></h5>
09:59 TR Bot; Tribal Nations Face Challenges in Accessing and Maximizing Funding: Connected America Conference : Broadband Breakfast
10:01 schestowitz[TR]; "Much of this development is being bolstered by federal funding. On March 23, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration announced two new grants through the Tribal Broadband Connectivity Program, bringing its total to more than $1.75 billion awarded to 135 Tribal entities."
10:02 TR News; "the legal system still hasn't figured out who owns the output" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/humans-vs-machines-the-fight-to-copyright-ai-art/articleshow/99170454.cms | Source: India Times
10:02 TR Bot; Humans vs. machines: The fight to copyright AI art - The Economic Times
10:05 TR News; "Kathy Hochul Is Trying to Privatize More of New Yorks Public School System" https://jacobin.com/2023/03/ny-hochul-charter-school-cap-public-education/
10:05 TR Bot; Kathy Hochul Is Trying to Privatize More of New Yorks Public School System
10:05 TR News; Not far from the truth... https://ffii.org/unified-patent-court-will-replace-its-judges-and-lawyers-with-ai-to-bmake-justice-finally-affordable-to-smes/
10:05 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://ffii.org/unified-patent-court-will-replace-its-judges-and-lawyers-with-ai-to-bmake-justice-finally-affordable-to-smes/ )
10:06 TR News; Daniel Jalkut on "advances" https://danielpunkass.micro.blog/2023/03/30/with-every-advance.html gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//danielpunkass.micro.blog/2023/03/30/with-every-advance.html
10:06 TR Bot; Daniel Jalkut
10:06 TR News; "April 1st is all about fake stories and pretending. This makes it the perfect day to talk about mocking." https://opensource.com/article/23/4/using-mocks-python | Source: OpenSource.com
10:06 TR Bot; mocks in Python | Opensource.com
10:07 TR News; "In this article, I'll cover the greatest coding language to learn how to make anything!" https://opensource.com/article/23/4/emojicode | Source: OpenSource.com
10:07 TR Bot; a cute program with Emojicode | Opensource.com
10:07 TR News; "For more than a decade, pirate streaming site PrimeWire took every anti-piracy measure Hollywood could muster and simply carried on." https://torrentfreak.com/primewire-wont-die-or-stop-pirating-21m-judgment-be-damned-230401/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:07 TR Bot; Won't Die or Stop Pirating, $21.7m Judgment Be Damned * TorrentFreak
10:09 TR News; "Russia will preside over the U.N. Security Council during April 2023, the U.N. reports [sic] on Twitter." Seriously? Twitter??? April 1st? https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/01/russia-will-preside-over-the-u-n-security-council-for-the-month-of-april | Source: Meduza
10:09 TR Bot; Russia will preside over the U.N. Security Council for the month of April Meduza
10:17 TR News; "[Emily Velasco] has an internet provider that provides sub-par connectivity" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/01/cat-skull-for-internet-connection-divination/ | Source: Hackaday
10:17 TR Bot; Skull For Internet Connection Divination | Hackaday
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: :-3
10:19 TR News; Stronger when united https://truthout.org/articles/united-auto-workers-prepare-for-big-fights-ahead-under-new-reform-leadership/ | Source: TruthOut
10:19 TR Bot; United Auto Workers Prepare for Big Fights Ahead Under New Reform Leadership - Truthout
10:19 TR News; "These days we use USB as a default for everything from low-speed serial ports to high-capacity storage" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/01/apple-never-gave-them-usb-now-theyre-getting-it-for-themselves/ | Source: Hackaday
10:19 TR Bot; Never Gave Them USB. Now, Theyre Getting It For Themselves | Hackaday
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 TR News; chicago https://truthout.org/articles/april-4-runoff-may-determine-whether-chicago-remains-playground-for-the-wealthy/ | Source: TruthOut
10:20 TR Bot; April 4 Runoff May Determine Whether Chicago Remains Playground for the Wealthy - Truthout
10:21 TR News; Escape From 1927 https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/01/game-jam-winner-spotlight-escape-from-1927/ | Source: Techdirt
10:21 TR Bot; Jam Winner Spotlight: Escape From 1927 | Techdirt
10:24 TR News; Paris Is Overflowing With Trashand With Rage at Macron https://www.thenation.com/article/world/paris-garbage-macron/ | Source: The Nation
10:24 TR Bot; Paris Is Overflowing With Trashand With Rage at Macron | The Nation
10:24 TR News; "corporate powers dominance is its 24/7 relentless" https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/how-corporate-america-subverts-reform | Source: Common Dreams
10:24 TR Bot; Opinion | How Corporate America Subverts Reform to Boost Profits | Common Dreams
10:28 TR News; Wall Street Bonuses Continue to Soar https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/wall-street-bonuses-worker-pay | Source: Common Dreams
10:28 TR Bot; Opinion | Wall Street Bonuses Continue to Soar Compared to Worker Wages | Common Dreams
10:29 TR News; (NEW): The 6 Best Lightweight Linux Distros http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/The_6_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distros.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/The_6_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distros.gmi
10:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines The 6 Best Lightweight Linux Distros
10:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
10:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
10:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/01/today_s_leftovers.gmi
10:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
10:31 TR News; (NEW): MusicPod: A Beautiful Flutter-based Music, Radio, and Podcast Player for Ubuntu http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/MusicPod_A_Beautiful_Flutter_based_Music_Radio_and_Podcast_Play.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/MusicPod_A_Beautiful_Flutter_based_Music_Radio_and_Podcast_Play.gmi
10:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines MusicPod: A Beautiful Flutter-based Music, Radio, and Podcast Player for Ubuntu
10:32 TR News; Bug/listening devices/spyware: "As we have seen time and time again, not every device stores our sensitive data in a respectful manner." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/01/squeezing-secrets-out-of-an-amazon-echo-dot/ | Source: Hackaday
10:32 TR Bot; Secrets Out Of An Amazon Echo Dot | Hackaday
10:32 TR News; "If youre wondering why there was no newsletter last weekend, it was because we had our hands full with Hackaday Berlin." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/01/hackaday-does-berlin/ | Source: Hackaday
10:32 TR Bot; Does Berlin | Hackaday
10:32 TR News; Florida https://truthout.org/articles/florida-teachers-unions-are-front-line-of-resistance-against-desantiss-fascism/ | Source: TruthOut
10:32 TR Bot; Florida Teachers Unions Are Front Line of Resistance Against DeSantiss Fascism - Truthout
10:33 TR News; "Theres tons of theory out there to explain the behavior of electronic circuits and electromagnetic waves." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/01/blender-and-openems-teamed-up-make-stunning-simulations/ | Source: Hackaday
10:33 TR Bot; And OpenEMS Teamed Up Make Stunning Simulations | Hackaday
10:35 TR News; (NEW): GnuCash Review 2023: Features, Pricing & More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GnuCash_Review_2023_Features_Pricing_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GnuCash_Review_2023_Features_Pricing_More.gmi
10:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines GnuCash Review 2023: Features, Pricing & More
10:46 TR News; Ukraine updates: Russia takes UN Security Council presidency https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-takes-un-security-council-presidency/a-65203121
10:46 TR Bot; updates: Russia takes UN Security Council presidency DW 04/01/2023
10:47 TR News; The worst April Fools' joke https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-takes-un-security-council-presidency/a-6520312
10:47 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-takes-un-security-council-presidency/a-6520312 )
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11:12 TR News; tiktok mention here is redundant https://jacobin.com/2023/04/tiktok-dream-of-labor-meme-socialism-organize-labor-movement/
11:12 TR Bot; If You Dont Dream of Labor, You Should Organize for Socialism
11:14 TR News; Countries agree. Social control media sucks, more so if controlled by hostile actors. https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-ban-how-many-countries-bytedance-china-1850238654
11:14 TR Bot; How Many Countries Have Banned TikTok?
11:15 TR News; TikTok (China) teaches in the West to steal and vandalise https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-challenge-hyundai-kia-steering-wheel-lock-1850287563
11:15 TR Bot; Hyundai and Kia Offer Free Steering Wheel Locks After Rise in Vehicle Thefts
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:22 TR News; So-called 'Libertarians' siding with Pooh https://reason.com/2023/03/31/the-restrict-act-would-restrict-a-lot-more-than-tiktok/ https://gizmodo.com/rand-paul-opposes-tiktok-ban-warns-republicans-1850278167
11:22 TR Bot; The RESTRICT Act Would Restrict a Lot More Than TikTok
11:22 TR Bot; Rand Paul Says a TikTok Ban Would Be Politically Disastrous
11:23 TR News; Other social control media sites [sic] should also be banned for the same reasons if not more https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/3/7/23628147/tiktok-ban-restrict-act-bill-warner-thune
11:23 TR Bot; biggest threat is the RESTRICT Act - Vox
11:24 TR News; Same conclusions reached https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/27/dutch-tax-office-also-wants-ban-apps-like-tiktok-work-telephones
11:24 TR Bot; Dutch tax office also wants to ban apps like TikTok from work telephones | NL Times
11:24 TR News; Telegram could be next https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/28/municipality-amsterdam-going-ban-tiktok-work-phones-telegram-next
11:24 TR Bot; Municipality of Amsterdam is going to ban TikTok on work phones; Telegram could be next | NL Times
11:25 TR News; Imposing a nationwide TikTok ban can be US lawmakers' only chance to restrict the app [sic] https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/imposing-nationwide-tiktok-ban-can-us-lawmakers-only-chance-restrict-app-1714614
11:25 TR Bot; Imposing a nationwide TikTok ban can be US lawmakers' only chance to restrict the app
11:26 TR News; France: yes, social control media is bad https://gizmodo.com/france-ban-recreational-apps-official-phones-tiktok-1850268079
11:26 TR Bot; France Bans All Fun Apps From Government Phones
11:27 TR News; Same conclusions https://nltimes.nl/2023/03/25/civil-servants-eindhoven-longer-allowed-use-tiktok-work
11:27 TR Bot; Civil servants in Eindhoven are no longer allowed to use TikTok at work | NL Times
11:27 TR News; CNN helps Pooh-tin frame rejection of opium as "racist" https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/26/tech/asian-americans-tiktok/index.html
11:27 TR Bot; Americans are anxious about hate crimes. TikTok ban rhetoric isn't helping | CNN Business
11:29 TR News; CNN pretends to be against racism, but then it does it its own way, with "style" https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/25/business/apple-tim-cook-visits-beijing-intl-hnk/index.html
11:29 TR Bot; TikTok chief's grilling in Washington, Apple's Tim Cook is all smiles in Beijing | CNN Business
11:30 TR News; astroturf https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-protestors-astroturf-ban-rally-in-dc-1850261777
11:30 TR Bot; Why TikTok Needed to Pay Influencers to Attend Anti-Ban Rally
11:31 TR News; Can? It does. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/afcl/fact-check-tiktok-03242023144611.html
11:31 TR Bot; Asia Fact Check Lab: Can TikTok share US user data with Chinas government? Radio Free Asia
11:32 TR News; The mains problem with TikTok is not the tracking
11:37 TR News; Paying by Microsoft; not really running in GNU/Linux, either https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-play-xbox-games-on-linux-cloud-gaming-remote-play/
11:37 TR Bot; How to Play Xbox One and Series X|S Games on a Linux PC With Cloud Gaming and Remote Play
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11:48 phanes; woot
11:49 phanes; just got Dark Horse Linux to boot from ISO finally
11:49 phanes; still has some init problems to work out, so it'll be a bit before something usable is there
11:51 phanes; damn iso is 8G tho
11:52 phanes; 7.8 to be exact
11:57 phanes; prob need to strip debug symbols and supply docs as a post-install add-on package
11:58 phanes; half that shit after that is the dam kernel modules themselves
11:58 phanes; thats nuts how bloated thats gotten
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12:14 schestowitz[TR]; bloated
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; 2 DVDs
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; for "base" system
12:15 phanes; yep there's lots to pare out there
12:18 phanes; then once i get the base system usable ill need to reflow the whole build project to work on itself instead of on a fedora build host
12:18 phanes; but before i do that i need to turn the livecd into an installer image
12:19 phanes; and then figure out how package management will work
12:19 phanes; i can see why this kind of work takes so many people, it just never ends
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 phanes; because once its usable and installable ill need to build out shitloads of package build infrastructure
12:21 phanes; and then sort out security patching
12:22 phanes; alot of corporate clients wont go for a distro even with vendor support if there is not patching thats very up to date.
12:42 TR News; Why Techrights Condones Fentanylware (TikTok) Ban and Suggests Extending Bans to Supposedly Good Fentanyl | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/saying-no-to-fentanylware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/saying-no-to-fentanylware/
12:42 TR Bot; Why Techrights Condones Fentanylware (TikTok) Ban and Suggests Extending Bans to Supposedly Good Fentanyl | Techrights
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:17 phanes; annnnnnnd booyah: https://www.darkhorselinux.org/download
13:17 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.darkhorselinux.org/download )
13:17 phanes; woops
13:17 phanes; annnnnnnd booyah: https://www.darkhorselinux.org/downloads
13:17 TR Bot;
13:19 TR News; Edge is proprietary Microsoft spyware which by default, without informing the user, passes all the user's passwords to the NSA and Microsoft. Why help users install such malware? Microsoft is laying off Edge staff already; it failed at market adoption. https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2023/03/how-to-install-microsoft-edge-on-linux.html
13:19 TR Bot; How to install Microsoft Edge on Linux Lite 6.2
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; Microsoft's proprietary spyware isn't a good fit on GNU/Linux; try Kate instead https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-ubuntu/
13:21 TR Bot; How to Install Visual Studio Code in Ubuntu
13:28 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
13:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; phanes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Horse_Beer
13:32 TR Bot; Red Horse Beer - Wikipedia
13:32 phanes; cool
13:32 phanes; ill have to try it
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; makers of corona
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; oh, never mind, no... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(beer)
13:33 TR Bot; Corona (beer) - Wikipedia
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; owned by Belgian company now
13:34 phanes; man i am tired
13:34 phanes; haven't been to bed yet to get this pushed out and downloadable
13:34 phanes; this has been just a stupid amount of work
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; "During the COVID-19 pandemic, the beer saw some controversy due to its similarity in name to coronaviruses. There was some reduction in the sales of the brand in China, but not in the United States (where the brand is much more popular than in China and where sales of the brand actually rose by 5% in early 2020), and the sales slump in China affected various brands, not just Corona"
13:36 TR News; The Year of the Linux Desktop - IS FINALLY HERE!!! https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=d5SXL40TKvA
13:36 TR Bot; The Year of the Linux Desktop: The Movie (Short Film by Jay LaCroix) - Invidious
13:36 TR News; CachyOS : Get Ready to Be AMAZED - The Ultimate Performance Linux Distro of 2023 (NEW) https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=d_qo_WXwiVc
13:37 TR Bot; CachyOS : Get Ready to Be AMAZED - The Ultimate Performance Linux Distro of 2023 (NEW) - Invidious
13:37 TR News; 2023-04-01: leaving ArchLinux https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=MPo1U2nJZN4
13:37 TR Bot; I'm Leaving Arch Linux For A Better Distro!! - Invidious
13:39 TR News; Linux Lite 6.4 Final Released https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/linux-lite-6-4-final-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/linux-lite-6-4-final-released/
13:39 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.4 Final Released
13:53 phanes; isnt linux lite just another ubuntu rebranding
13:58 phanes; cachyos is a rebranding of arch linux
13:59 phanes; they all have the same pipeline problems
13:59 phanes; s/pipeline/supply chain/
14:00 phanes; night folks
14:00 *phanes dies of sleep deprivation
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14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:27 MinceR; every Kroah-Hartmanux distro shares supply chain problems
14:29 TR News; Giving Gnome-Terminal some margins makes me happier with it https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/GnomeTerminalBiggerMargins
14:29 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/GnomeTerminalBiggerMargins
14:30 psydroid2; you can say yuhong bai bai to your (creative) freedom if you choose Kroah-Hartmanux as the base of your distro
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; horseshitlinus
14:33 TR News; The 8 Best DIY Security Camera Apps and Software for Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/awesome-diy-security-camera-clients-linux/
14:33 TR Bot; The 8 Best DIY Security Camera Apps and Software for Linux
14:34 TR News; Using LINUX at WORK - GNOME edition: extensions, apps & workflow https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=IPWdA0OYXVU
14:34 TR Bot; Using LINUX at WORK - GNOME edition: extensions, apps & workflow - Invidious
14:35 TR News; Linuxfx 11.3.1 is out https://distrowatch.com/linuxfx
14:35 TR Bot; Linuxfx
14:38 TR News; "Jealous of everyone who missed out on the endless stream of utterly boring April Fools jokes on IRC which were boring me to tears. I was crying bone" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/a1
14:38 TR News; SpellBinding: ACIYRVP Wordo: JESUS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-04-02.gmi
14:43 TR News; Sposonored crap, not review https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2023/03/internxt-cloud-storage-review.html
14:43 TR Bot; Internxt is a privacy-focused open-source cloud storage that supports Linux and offers lifetime plans (Review)
14:45 TR News; Manjaro Linux's Biggest Drama That Never Happened https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=oF991c0vDAg
14:45 TR Bot; Manjaro Linux's Biggest Drama That Never Happened - Invidious
14:45 TR News; 10 Things I Wish I Knew When I First Started With Linux https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=HIJ6LixbcAY
14:46 TR Bot; 10 Things I Wish I Knew When I First Started With Linux - Invidious
14:46 TR News; Proprietary Microsoft spyware; why use that? https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=wsajj2EB6Vs
14:46 TR Bot; How to install Visual Studio Code on Linux Lite 6.2 - Invidious
14:48 TR News; The Linux Link Tech Show Episode 998 http://www.tlltsarchive.org/archives/tllts_998-03-29-23.ogg almost 1000 now
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14:49 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
14:54 MinceR; https://i0.wp.com/digbysblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/image.png
14:54 TR News; (NEW): Alpine 3.17.3 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Alpine_3_17_3_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Alpine_3_17_3_released.gmi
14:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Alpine 3.17.3 released
14:57 TR News; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.8 and 9.2 Beta https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-88-and-92-beta
14:58 TR Bot; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.8 and 9.2 Beta
14:58 TR News; System76 Pangolin Review: the 15" all rounder AMD Linux laptop https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=VPIeUw3Zyds
14:58 TR Bot; System76 Pangolin Review: the 15" all rounder AMD Linux laptop - Invidious
14:59 TR News; How to install Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=tEMO88Ge4nY
14:59 TR Bot; How to install Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 - Invidious
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:00 TR News; ArcoLinux 23.04.03 is out
15:04 TR News; How to install Minetest on Linux Lite 6.2 https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=CkZXyYQcqmU
15:04 TR Bot; How to install Minetest on Linux Lite 6.2 - Invidious
15:04 TR News; Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 overview | 100% free as in freedom https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=rww0j8bXE-M
15:04 TR Bot; Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 overview | 100% free as in freedom - Invidious
15:13 TR News; Garuda Linux 230305 Quick Overview https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=xGIRjYKjXOI
15:13 TR Bot; Garuda Linux 230305 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious
15:13 TR News; An Update Borked My Linux System. How Did I Fix It? https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=tTS2KVCJ-MQ
15:13 TR Bot; An Update Borked My Linux System. How Did I Fix It? - Invidious
15:14 TR News; Why BSD Documentation Is Just Better Than Linux - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=rGSZFmQuQrU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/rGSZFmQuQrU
15:14 TR Bot; Why BSD Documentation Is Just Better Than Linux - Invidious
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:22 TR News; Framework 16" laptop, Nextcloud's HUGE AI update, Twitter goes Open Source: Linux - FOSS News - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=6J7qi2nchVs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/6J7qi2nchVs
15:22 TR Bot; Framework 16" laptop, Nextcloud's HUGE AI update, Twitter goes Open Source: Linux & FOSS News - Invidious
15:24 TR News; DoomLinux:the Distro That Loads Only Enough Software to Play DOOM https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/03/25/0427211/doomlinux-the-distro-that-loads-only-enough-software-to-play-doom
15:24 TR Bot; DoomLinux: the Distro That Loads Only Enough Software to Play DOOM - Slashdot
15:25 TR News; They have said this for like 7 years. But it's not happening. https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=yhT9UqlNsyU
15:25 TR Bot; Wayland Is Linux's Future, But Why Do I Care? - Invidious
15:39 TR News; Microsoft Windows Down to Just a Quarter of Connected Computers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/windows-quarter-share/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/windows-quarter-share/
15:39 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Down to Just a Quarter of Connected Computers | Techrights
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: ^
15:42 psydroid2; it's going to be a quarter of a quarter in 10 years
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/india/#monthly-200901-202304
15:42 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; wow
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; 13%
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; gonna add update
15:49 TR News; Microsoft controls Biden https://cyberscoop.com/software-liability-biden-microsoft-vulnerabilities/
15:49 TR Bot; a White House initiative compel tech companies to write safer code? | CyberScoop
15:50 TR News; Microsoft Florian still works for Microsoft http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/03/after-major-progress-toward-clearance.html
15:50 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: After major progress toward clearance over the course of the first quarter, Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard could consummate during the second quarter
15:53 TR News; Review: GNOME 44 is a Great Release (Mostly) - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=XmBVnZK7oag" | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XmBVnZK7oag"
15:53 TR Bot; Review: GNOME 44 is a Great Release (Mostly) - Invidious
15:53 TR News; John Deere Refuses To Respect Free Software - GPL - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=5rgsXq2e7Ck | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/5rgsXq2e7Ck
15:53 TR Bot; John Deere Refuses To Respect Free Software & GPL - Invidious
15:54 TR News; KDE Fixes Discord On Wayland Because Discord Can't - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=FKgD65Um8Mo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/FKgD65Um8Mo
15:54 TR Bot; KDE Fixes Discord On Wayland Because Discord Can't - Invidious
15:55 TR News; Xorg Foundation Has A Serious Problem - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=aWzhrMBN9fo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/aWzhrMBN9fo
15:55 TR Bot; Xorg Foundation Has A Serious Problem - Invidious
15:56 TR News; siduction 21.1.1 overview | the community based OS - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=TAJFJUXkrGY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/TAJFJUXkrGY
15:56 TR Bot; siduction 21.1.1 overview | the community based OS - Invidious
15:56 MinceR; https://explosm.net/comics/rob-blink
15:56 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
15:57 TR News; Nitrux 2.7.0 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=1h0TBxfIXCg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/1h0TBxfIXCg
15:57 TR Bot; Nitrux 2.7.0 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious
15:57 TR News; The Raspberry Pi Pironman Case - There's a Status Display! - Invidious https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=cCk8GTz4C9o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/cCk8GTz4C9o
15:57 TR Bot; The Raspberry Pi Pironman Case - There's a Status Display! - Invidious
15:59 TR News; ANF | YouTube closes Med Music TV channel without any explanation https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/youtube-closes-med-music-tv-channel-without-any-explanation-66332
15:59 TR Bot; ANF | YouTube closes Med Music TV channel without any explanation
16:05 psydroid2; I didn't know about Med Muzik, but I hope that in the future they will use a streaming service that they do control
16:09 TR News; (NEW): GNU/Linux and Free Software Videos/Shows From Past Week http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software_Videos_Shows_From_Past_Week.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software_Videos_Shows_From_Past_Week.gmi
16:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU/Linux and Free Software Videos/Shows From Past Week
16:14 TR News; (NEW): MidnightBSD 3.0.0 Released. This is What's New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/MidnightBSD_3_0_0_Released_This_is_What_s_New.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/MidnightBSD_3_0_0_Released_This_is_What_s_New.gmi
16:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines MidnightBSD 3.0.0 Released. This is What's New
16:16 TR News; Linux power SUSE appoints New CEO Dirk-Peter van Leeuwen https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/linux-power-suse-appoints-new-ceo-dirkpeter-van-leeuwen Source: SJVN
16:16 TR Bot; Linux power SUSE appoints New CEO Dirk-Peter van Leeuwen
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:22 TR News; IDG (now China) not paying writers? Not a single article in over 2 weeks now... https://www.networkworld.com/uk/blog/unix-as-a-second-language/
16:22 TR Bot; Unix as a Second Language
16:22 TR News; (UPDATED): Problems in SUSE (According to Former Employee, Mr. Lunduke) and openSUSE Conference 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/24/Problems_in_SUSE_According_to_Former_Employee_Mr_Lunduke_and_op.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/24/Problems_in_SUSE_According_to_Former_Employee_Mr_Lunduke_and_op.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Problems in SUSE (According to Former Employee, Mr. Lunduke) and openSUSE Conference 2023
16:22 TR News; (NEW): What's New in Fedora 38 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/What_s_New_in_Fedora_38.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/What_s_New_in_Fedora_38.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines What's New in Fedora 38
16:24 TR News; No "Linux" coverage at computing.co.uk... in 2+ weeks either (they ignore the most used OS/kernel, call themselves computing.co.uk) https://www.computing.co.uk/search?query=linux&date=this_year&type=&full_category=&per_page=24&sort=recent
16:24 TR Bot; Search results for linux - Page 1 | Computing
16:25 TR News; "CLOWN" backup: give all your PRIVATE files to somebody ELSE... for "security" https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatabackup/feature/Top-20-cloud-backup-services-for-2019
16:25 TR Bot; cloud backup services for businesses to consider in 2023 | TechTarget
16:26 TR News; Clop = Microsoft Windows https://www.computerweekly.com/news/365533015/Hitachi-Energy-emerges-as-victim-of-Clop-gangs-Fortra-attack
16:26 TR Bot; Hitachi Energy emerges as victim of Clop gangs Fortra attack | Computer Weekly
16:28 TR News; computerweekly used to cover some Linux every week, but this year if you look for anything "Linux" they spew out Windows
16:28 TR News; (NEW): NanoPi R6C review Ubuntu 22.04, NVMe SSD, USB debug http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/NanoPi_R6C_review_Ubuntu_22_04_NVMe_SSD_USB_debug.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/NanoPi_R6C_review_Ubuntu_22_04_NVMe_SSD_USB_debug.gmi
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16:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines NanoPi R6C review Ubuntu 22.04, NVMe SSD, USB debug
16:29 TR News; Oracle Cloud Native Environment 1.6 is available! blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/oracle-cloud-native-environment-16-is-available
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16:30 TR News; 6 Tips to Use the Steam Decks Desktop Mode Without a Dock https://www.makeuseof.com/tips-use-steam-deck-desktop-mode-without-dock/
16:30 TR Bot; 6 Tips to Use the Steam Decks Desktop Mode Without a Dock
16:32 TR News; How to Configure Networking on Ubuntu Servers https://www.makeuseof.com/configure-network-ubuntu-server/
16:32 TR Bot; How to Configure Networking on Ubuntu Servers
16:40 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/Android_Leftovers.gmi
16:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:40 TR News; (NEW): 6 Tips to Use the Steam Decks Desktop Mode Without a Dock http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/6_Tips_to_Use_the_Steam_Deck_s_Desktop_Mode_Without_a_Dock.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/6_Tips_to_Use_the_Steam_Deck_s_Desktop_Mode_Without_a_Dock.gmi
16:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines 6 Tips to Use the Steam Decks Desktop Mode Without a Dock
16:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: IKEA is back to doing the Easter buffet.
16:42 DaemonFC; I got us tickets for that. I never cook for holidays because there's nobody left.
16:42 TR News; (NEW): The 8 Best DIY Security Camera Apps and Software for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/The_8_Best_DIY_Security_Camera_Apps_and_Software_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/02/The_8_Best_DIY_Security_Camera_Apps_and_Software_for_Linux.gmi
16:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines The 8 Best DIY Security Camera Apps and Software for Linux
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: too much all at once
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; gluttony
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; today we got 310 pounds worth of food
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; cost us just 24 pounds
16:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The IKEA food isn't all that fattening. I've been there before.
16:49 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23032158
16:49 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
16:49 DaemonFC; It's mainly very lean fish, ham, some condiments, deviled eggs, Swedish meatballs of course.
16:49 DaemonFC; Bork bork bork!
16:49 MinceR; resistance is futile.
16:49 DaemonFC; MinceR: I am dyslexic of Borg.
16:49 DaemonFC; Fusistence is retile.
16:49 MinceR; :)
16:49 DaemonFC; Your ass will be laminated.
16:51 TR News; Forces is a Microsoft toilet bowl. Search "Linux" and get Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft propaganda instead. https://www.forbes.com/search/?sort=recent&q=linux&sh=501fda29279f
16:51 TR Bot; Search
16:51 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1166649732/conspiracy-theory-eating-bugs-4chan
16:51 TR Bot; Why a conspiracy theory about eating insects is gaining ground : NPR
16:51 DaemonFC; "The accusations arrived shortly after the European Union approved mealworms and crickets as food ingredients."
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; BillPR uses that straw man a lot
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; probably all that "reptllian" BS
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: did you know people don't like Bill Gates, sponsor of NPR "COZ HE IS REPTILE!!?"
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; there are many good reasons to condejn the EU
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; and its policies
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; inc. in agra
16:53 DaemonFC; Well, you've never seen him blink. It's because he blinks sideways.
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; and those reasons aren't to do with insect-eating
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; maybe BillPR ish shilling some BillCompany
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; with a straw man
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; looking for the most outlandish things online
16:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I wonder how much he lost on Bill's Burgers with McDonalds ditching it and Burger King up to closing 2 stores per day now.
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; McDonalds growing?
16:54 psydroid2; Subsistence is fertile
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; where did I hear that?
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; sounded improbable
16:54 DaemonFC; The CFO of one of the two Bill's Burgers companies biting another man on the ear.
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: maybe it was a big fight
16:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I don't doubt that McDonalds is growing.
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; at least he didn't eat his kids
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O2FnsUFD_hU
16:55 DaemonFC; The economy sucks and McDonalds is growing at the expense of more expensive restaurants goes the theory.
16:55 TR Bot; Mike Tyson: I wanna Eat his children - Invidious
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gbix8pfrBt4
16:55 TR Bot; Mike Tyson - I'll Eat Your Ass - Invidious
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PMERu5hpRcw
16:55 TR Bot; Mike Tyson I wanna eat his heart - Invidious
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N9m_7MkWrxE
16:55 TR Bot; Mike Tyson "I want to eat his children" - Invidious
16:55 DaemonFC; McDonalds didn't support their Black-owned franchises with the COVID benefits.
16:56 DaemonFC; They not only didn't float them the same loans that White owners were getting, they didn't cut their franchise fees as much.
16:56 DaemonFC; The whole point was to have "who they wanted to" re-emerge from the lockdowns and able to continue doing business.
16:57 DaemonFC; Bill Gates is tied up into McDonalds pretty tightly.
16:57 DaemonFC; His pal Warren Buffett owns a lot of shares and kicks business contract to Bill.
16:57 DaemonFC; Like those potato farms that Bill Gates bought up.
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; how much has he got left to live?
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; 20 years?
16:58 DaemonFC; Buffett?
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; ha
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; no way
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; billy burger
16:58 DaemonFC; You'd think he'd be dead already. 6 cans of Cherry Coke each day?
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; no salyt?
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; salt
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; jackendorsey salt and shitcoins
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; eat a coin eat monrning
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; and invest in salt water
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; right?
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; **each morning
16:59 DaemonFC; Himalayan Pink Salt, water, and lemon juice.
16:59 DaemonFC; I mean, bad for the blood pressure obviously.
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; endorsey by jack dorsey
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; must be something
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; he made a company that made deep losses 14 billions
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; and could barely even make money
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; just hire more losers
17:00 DaemonFC; There's no significant difference between pink salt and regular table salt in sodium content.
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes conned a conman
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; into paying 44 billion for that dumpster fire
17:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Dorsey lucked out on the Greater Fool Theory.
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17:01 DaemonFC; No matter what kind of piece of shit you have, you MAY talk someone else into buying it and THEN realizing what they have.
17:01 DaemonFC; Like this apartment building.
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; haha
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; true.. true..
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; i saw the photo
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; the marketing thing
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; sunny day
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; clean home
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; I'm sure all the unis are superb like that
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; families with 2 kids and a lab
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; labrador
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; not meth lab
17:01 DaemonFC; Whoever buys this place had better get a comprehensive inspection and then talk the seller down by at least 40%.
17:01 DaemonFC; That's all I'm saying.
17:02 DaemonFC; People who get hot to buy are going to be in on major repairs because they didn't look all that hard.
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; he did not show them
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; or only selectively show
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; the "show room"
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; aka "showroom"
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; they made it one word
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; "dressed to impress"
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; tidied up to fool the buyer
17:02 DaemonFC; He did not point out "Oh look at all that wood rot where the fucking pipes were dripping under the sink there."
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; than you get the real thing
17:02 immibis; <DaemonFC> The whole point was to have "who they wanted to" re-emerge from the lockdowns and able to continue doing business. <- the whole of capitalism is like this
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; like mandy's "pila' airpods
17:03 immibis; capitalism is basically dictatorship but the dictators are whoever has money, instead of a set person
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; or at music shops
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; you can listen to the CDs
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; on $200 hadsets
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; then you take it home
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; "oh shit"
17:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I locked the cards and banned Apple transactions from going through.
17:03 schestowitz[TR]; "20 dollars for 20 songs, and 19 of them suck"
17:03 immibis; Forces is a Microsoft toilet bowl. Search "Linux" and get Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft propaganda instead. <- it's a capitalist toilet bowl. Linux is meaningless for capitalism, while Microsoft is something you can invest money in.
17:04 DaemonFC; Every time you're not watching, he's in the bedroom feeding all of the money on a bank card into Apple games.
17:04 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
17:04 schestowitz[TR]; tonda trauma
17:04 schestowitz[TR]; tondo
17:04 schestowitz[TR]; this is BETTA than TONDO
17:04 psydroid2; Microsoft is a coin-operated slot machine?
17:04 schestowitz[TR]; "IMA DO THIS S**"
17:04 DaemonFC; So the bank card got shut off and most of the money is in an account where not only is there no debit cards, there's no checks!
17:04 DaemonFC; It's in a CD where I can ask for it back.
17:05 schestowitz[TR]; harvesting and saving for winter was a good investment
17:05 schestowitz[TR]; helped people survive cold winters
17:05 schestowitz[TR]; in resource-rich places
17:05 immibis; <DaemonFC> No matter what kind of piece of shit you have, you MAY talk someone else into buying it and THEN realizing what they have. <- actually, since about the dotcom bubble, this is THE way to get rich
17:05 schestowitz[TR]; without too much competition over them
17:05 schestowitz[TR]; people who don't save perish fast
17:06 immibis; you don't get rich by making goods and services any more - you do it by tricking other rich people
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; or get exploiited really badly
17:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: No thanks to him, we have enough money that even without another paycheck we could survive a year or more at our current spend rate.
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; good
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; less stress
17:06 DaemonFC; And the vast majority is earning decent interest while it's idle.
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; no high blood pressure = no john salinas-like burst nose veins
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; whiole sleeping
17:06 DaemonFC; I only keep enough in Checking to pay credit cards and the next month's rent.
17:07 immibis; you get interest on your savings accounts?
17:07 DaemonFC; Yes.
17:07 schestowitz[TR]; 5%
17:07 DaemonFC; 4% on the Savings and 5% in CDs.
17:07 DaemonFC; 6.89% on the bonds right now.
17:07 DaemonFC; That resets again in a couple months.
17:07 immibis; i have 5% on my NZD CDs and I could potentially get 1.5% on my EUR if I went through the effort of signing up for a *different bank in another country*'s CDs
17:08 immibis; but in no instance have I seen a bank offering decent interest on a savings account
17:08 DaemonFC; Probably not worth "foreign bank account" reporting.
17:08 immibis; it's all europe, i don't think there's special reporting
17:08 DaemonFC; In the US, you have to fill out special FATCA paperwork if you have a foreign account.
17:08 DaemonFC; It's not illegal but it complicates things.
17:08 immibis; that's because the USA is a nazi dictatorship
17:08 immibis; all banks ask you if you're a US citizen before signing up
17:09 immibis; except the ones in Iran and Cuba, presumably
17:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, I have to put down that Mandy isn't but they don't mind as long as he has a green card or the IRS substantial presence test.
17:09 DaemonFC; That technically means you could open a US bank account even if you're illegal.
17:09 immibis; all *non-US* banks ask if you're a US citizen before signing up
17:09 DaemonFC; As long as you've been here 180 out of the past 365 days.
17:09 DaemonFC; And have an ITIN.
17:09 DaemonFC; Illegals can also file for bankruptcy as long as they have an ITIN.
17:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I signed up on the Veriff lawsuit yesterday.
17:12 DaemonFC; So I should get at least $600 because Uphold took my picture.
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; biab
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; doing daily links
17:13 DaemonFC; I looked up what the fines are for GEICO in this case I filed against them for overcharging.
17:13 DaemonFC; Technically, the Department has the authority to fine them up to $10,000 if they refuse to answer the complaint within 3 weeks.
17:14 DaemonFC; They also have the authority to fine them up to $10,000 for overcharging me for insurance, and they can also demand records for all of the policyholders in Illinois and fine them for each and every time it happened.
17:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: This could turn into fines in the hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars if the Department determines that the overcharging was illegal and systemic.
17:15 DaemonFC; The Department can also go back and order them to refund the improper overage to all of the policy holders.
17:15 DaemonFC; I've declared war on the lizard.
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17:24 TR News; This planet us run by robber barons, who control everything including courts. Anything they don't like is "illegal" https://gizmodo.com/internet-archives-ebooks-digital-online-library-harp-1850268222
17:24 TR Bot; A Blow for Libraries: Internet Archive Loses Copyright Infringement Lawsuit
17:26 TR News; Craziness on Copyright https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/24/craziness-on-copyright/
17:26 TR Bot; on Copyright - CounterPunch.org
17:26 TR News; Nigeria's laws not written by Nigerians. The copyright cartel decides everything. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/nigeria-amends-its-copyright-act-to.html
17:26 TR Bot; Nigeria amends its Copyright Act to ratify outstanding copyright treaties and address other issues - The IPKat
17:27 TR News; We don't like this, so it's illegal, say the robber barons https://www.engadget.com/internet-archive-violated-publisher-copyrights-by-lending-ebooks-court-rules-164629790.html
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17:29 TR News; Copyrights twisted for censorship, too https://reason.com/volokh/2023/03/28/defamation-and-copyright/
17:29 TR Bot; Defamation and Copyright
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17:35 TR News; Nest is part of a surveillance framework, no point talking about "security" of such thing as they're inherently antithetic to security https://www.engadget.com/google-and-adt-team-up-for-new-nest-integrated-security-tools-185037191.html
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17:36 TR News; Unidentified attackers open fire on office of Albanian broadcaster Top Channel, kill security guard https://cpj.org/2023/03/unidentified-attackers-open-fire-on-office-of-albanian-broadcaster-top-channel-kill-security-guard/
17:36 TR Bot; Unidentified attackers open fire on office of Albanian broadcaster Top Channel, kill security guard - Committee to Protect Journalists
17:37 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: so easy even a caveman can scam you
17:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: GEICO has gotten downright nasty to deal with.
17:37 schestowitz[TR]; gaay Co.
17:38 DaemonFC; They used to have much better customer service.
17:38 schestowitz[TR]; now a machine?
17:38 schestowitz[TR]; HEY HI chatbot?
17:38 DaemonFC; Pretty much. They have this Hey Hi...
17:38 schestowitz[TR]; tat does not work?
17:38 DaemonFC; Yeah beat me to it.
17:38 DaemonFC; You have a claims bot, a bot for making changes to policies.
17:38 DaemonFC; They've outsourced everything, fired thousands.
17:38 schestowitz[TR]; no, no..
17:38 DaemonFC; Takes an hour to hit buttons on the phone and end up talking to someone.
17:38 schestowitz[TR]; they make "SAVINGS"
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; to "pass the savings to YOU"!!
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; you waste your time
17:39 DaemonFC; They're still cheaper than the other companies.
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; so they can pass the savings...
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; yourr time is worthless
17:39 DaemonFC; Yeah, they want to preserve that margin in the premiums between them and the competition.
17:39 DaemonFC; And so they gut the company in order to do it.
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; in my videos where i record calls you can hear british chatbots
17:39 schestowitz[TR]; can take 5-10 minutes toi get to an actual person
17:40 schestowitz[TR]; and not even the person you aim for
17:40 DaemonFC; I suppose I have the "plain midwestern accent".
17:40 DaemonFC; Which has been made the default for most of those synthetic voices anyway.
17:40 DaemonFC; It's fairly easy to understand.
17:40 schestowitz[TR]; which rreminds me
17:40 schestowitz[TR]; I need to chase someone..
17:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Well if GEICO is $85 a month and someone else demands $150-160 a month you do business with GEICO.
17:42 DaemonFC; Because I've seen that. A lot of companies don't want your business so they just come back with some outrageous quote so they can say they offered to do business with you.
17:42 DaemonFC; But you'd have to be nuts to take it.
17:43 DaemonFC; You have "factors" in the "risk models" they say, and some brutalize renters or people who have a bankruptcy on your record.
17:43 DaemonFC; So where do you even go?
17:44 DaemonFC; GEICO doesn't consider bankruptcy as highly predictive of accident risk, but about half of them weigh it heavily.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; Complaints now pensions support wrote on 16/03/2023 17:39:
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > Hi Roy,
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; >
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > Thank you for your call today, apologies for the bad communication and
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > service you have had from us regarding you concerns with your employer
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > Sirius Corporation.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; Hi, more than 2 weeks have passed. It's now April.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > As discussed,.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; >
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > * I will arrange for a letter to be sent to you and or email with
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > assurances that your pension money is safe with Now Pensions
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; This did not happen.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; My wife received no letter.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; I received no letter.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > * I will alert the team that deals with your employer that the CEO is
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > wanted for embezzlement and that he effectively scammed all his
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > employers previously through a pension scheme with Standard Life
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; Has that happened?" I heard nothing.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > * they put on hold/review any financial requests from the company
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > * request what due diligence they do when acquiring employers to use
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > NOW Pensions
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; I still received no communications, no letters, nothing.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > Please feel free to add to the above list with any further assurances
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; > that you would like and call or email me.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; I don't see the point to be honest. It does not seem like you did anything at all, i.e. it has been the same with you since January.
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; Please arrange for my wife and I to collect our pensions with an "unauthorisedd" (heavily tax) withdrawal. I will advise colleagues accordingly.
17:45 DaemonFC; So if you've had a bankruptcy in the past 7 years, you effectively can't do business with half the car insurance companies because you can't afford them.
17:45 MinceR; "Are you Serious?"
17:45 DaemonFC; Next month will be 3 years since the bankruptcy.
17:46 DaemonFC; They stay on your credit report for 10 years, but the accounts that went into bankruptcy are all gone within 7 years. Often a bit sooner.
17:47 DaemonFC; So the way that works is the bankrupt accounts factor into the "total size" of the bankruptcy and are the main factor in "how bad" it looks on your credit.
17:47 DaemonFC; I got lucky because I got the car deleted from the credit report by stating that the loan was reaffirmed by John so it should no longer count against me and they were reporting false information.
17:47 DaemonFC; So about $20,000 of it disappeared then and there and my FICO went up about 12 points.
17:48 DaemonFC; It's not nothing. :P
17:48 DaemonFC; You come out of bankruptcy with a FICO of about 540, but no credit history, so it basically forces you to jump through hoops taking on credit cards or fake loans to build up some accounts.
17:49 DaemonFC; Because landlords want to see 600-650 to rent apartments usually.
17:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I used to eat at IKEA a lot. They have a cheap cafe there.
17:53 DaemonFC; It's to lure people into the store to shop.
17:54 DaemonFC; This Easter buffet is the same price it was in 2018.
17:54 DaemonFC; They haven't raised the price even though I'm sure the stuff costs them a lot more than it did.
17:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: CNN changed the headline for an app with spyware in it from "CHINA SPYWARE APP THREAT" to "DATA SECURITY THREAT" very quickly.
17:59 DaemonFC; They yank down the racist and offensive stuff after one of the bosses sees it I guess?
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: doing a post re pension
18:02 immibis; DaemonFC: why do you use "illegal" as a noun?
18:03 DaemonFC; Quite common here.
18:03 DaemonFC; "Illegal immigrant"
18:03 DaemonFC; People who show up and just decide they're here now and they never file any paperwork.
18:04 DaemonFC; Some "migrant farm worker" with "no papers" impregnated a CNA my mother works with. Apparently, the guy and all his buddies take turns on the same hooker down at the farm, you know.
18:04 DaemonFC; And she's now on welfare, and the baby is automatically an American, and "dad" is too dumb to even realize he's got the golden ticket now because that qualifies him to adjust status.
18:05 DaemonFC; So he's down on the farm with no papers banging the shared hooker.
18:05 DaemonFC; No other country allows trash like this to stay very long.
18:05 immibis; The correct term is "illegal person"
18:06 DaemonFC; Much less to use their citizens as baby incubators for chain migration.
18:06 DaemonFC; Of course, like I said, he isn't that smart.
18:06 DaemonFC; He's already got her pregnant, he might as well make it right and get married and then what are they going to do if they find him?
18:06 DaemonFC; Nothing.
18:07 DaemonFC; Right now, he has a one way ticket back to Mexico if they get him in a round up.
18:07 DaemonFC; Absolute best case, he'll never be an American citizen or green card holder with an earnings record, so no Social Security and no Medicare.
18:08 DaemonFC; So even if they don't catch him, he'll wish he'd made this right in about 45 years or so.
18:08 DaemonFC; When he's worked under the table and doesn't qualify for anything.
18:08 DaemonFC; Social Security is only for Americans and Green Card holders with an earnings record.
18:09 DaemonFC; Mandy will have enough work credits to have bought into Disability Insurance here in about another year.
18:09 DaemonFC; And retirement after about another 6 years.
18:09 TR News; NOW: Pensions Has Offered 3 Months of Lies, Even From the Trust Administration Team (John Pattinson) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/02/nowpensions-means-no-pensions/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/02/nowpensions-means-no-pensions/
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18:09 DaemonFC; But he could also file based on my earnings record if we were married for at least 10 years and I die.
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18:10 DaemonFC; So even if he's not paid in fully, as long as we were married for a decade, he could file and get mine.
18:10 DaemonFC; Or if mine would be higher, he could file based on mine instead of his if I'm dead.
18:11 DaemonFC; Social Security is designed like that on purpose.
18:11 DaemonFC; Typically, men die earlier and women have a lower earnings record.
18:11 DaemonFC; To prevent the lower earning spouse from slipping into dire poverty, they allow them to file on the higher earning spouse if something happens to that person.
18:12 DaemonFC; I wonder what the UK system is like.
18:12 DaemonFC; I know Canada is bragging that their system is "solvent".
18:12 DaemonFC; The average benefit check is also about $700 less a month.
18:12 DaemonFC; So there's that.
18:13 DaemonFC; Most countries keep it functional by cutting and raising the claim age.
18:13 DaemonFC; As long as you never pay the money, it's fine.
18:13 DaemonFC; :)
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18:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I think that's why you're so furious over this private pension.
18:14 immibis; The proper way to keep it solvent is to lower payouts and lower the cost of living.
18:14 immibis; That money that comes out of the fund goes straight into corporate profits.
18:14 DaemonFC; Even after you adjust for Medicare premiums that Canadians don't pay, ours still pays over $500 a month more on average.
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18:15 DaemonFC; Yeah, Europeans brag about everything.
18:15 DaemonFC; Strangely not about their electric going up 900% in a single year.
18:15 DaemonFC; $13 for HALF a pound of butter.
18:15 DaemonFC; ($7.47 for a full pound in the US).
18:16 DaemonFC; Fuck Europe.
18:16 DaemonFC; I wouldn't live there if you doubled my household income because you'd still need more to make up for these incredibly stupid politicians they have running everything.
18:17 DaemonFC; CNN did an entire article about the collapse of the French baguette shops.
18:17 DaemonFC; Complaining mainly about their electric.
18:18 DaemonFC; One said it was $900 for their electric in December, then in January they "renewed their contract", whatever that means.
18:18 DaemonFC; And it was almost $8,500.
18:18 DaemonFC; But then the government came in with a bailout so it was "only" $4,500.
18:19 DaemonFC; They're in shock because they trusted a mad man that runs a terrorist state for their cheap electricity instead of keeping coal and nuclear power.
18:19 DaemonFC; Now it's all gone and their economies are dying.
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18:20 immibis; they chose to run their shop on russian gas
18:20 DaemonFC; Bad decision.
18:20 immibis; if it was up to me, I'd let everyone who bought renewable energy in 2021 keep paying 2021's prices, and everyone else should have to pay for the non-renewable energy they signed up for
18:21 immibis; they fucked around by trying to use fossil fuels to save a buck, so they can find out
18:23 immibis; you know, the energy companies that are like "we use 100% renewable energy" but it costs more. If you signed up for that you should get first dibs on the low-cost renewable energy.
18:23 immibis; and last dibs on the russian gas
18:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, Illinois has those renewable energy contract.
18:23 DaemonFC; But all it does is cost you more.
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18:23 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: ^
18:25 immibis; DaemonFC: I'm sure you'll be happy that if Saudi Arabia decides to stop selling oil, YOUR price will go through the roof while your neighbour's won't because he bought the renewable energy contract
18:25 immibis; right? you should get what you dserve
18:25 DaemonFC; We don't generate electricity from oil.
18:26 DaemonFC; There are other options to render gasoline. It doesn't even have to be from oil.
18:26 DaemonFC; If the price gets high enough, that becomes a profitable option.
18:26 immibis; what is it generated from, then?
18:26 DaemonFC; You can render coal into gasoline if you have to.
18:26 DaemonFC; We've got plenty of that.
18:26 immibis; why are you telling me this
18:27 immibis; If the fossil fuels stop, your price should go through the roof, but not your neighbour's who was buying renewable the whole time
18:27 DaemonFC; There's really no such thing as renewable power in Illinois.
18:27 immibis; then i guess you'll all pay through the roof
18:27 DaemonFC; When you look at the lifecycle and crappy generating potential of wind and solar "farms".
18:27 DaemonFC; Not really.
18:27 DaemonFC; We mostly use nuclear power.
18:28 DaemonFC; It's why we pay less for electricity than most states.
18:29 DaemonFC; Illinois still runs some coal plants as long as they have plenty of years left on their operating permits and are modern enough that they comply with the EPA's requirements.
18:29 DaemonFC; Some have closed.
18:29 DaemonFC; But it hasn't had much of an effect on rates.
18:29 DaemonFC; The one about a mile from my apartment shut down a few months ago.
18:29 immibis; what if there was no coal tomorrow
18:29 DaemonFC; It was very old and inefficient and hard to modernize.
18:30 DaemonFC; Well, we mine our own coal and I doubt we're going to declare war on ourselves and cut it off.
18:30 immibis; the coal billionaires might stop selling it to you
18:30 DaemonFC; We have the potential to extract more oil than we do now.
18:30 DaemonFC; Biden just auctioned off a ton of plots in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico.
18:30 immibis; they might suddenly realize you would pay out the wazoo for coal if they raised the price
18:30 immibis; the earth might become uninhabitable
18:31 DaemonFC; Mexico could be extracting more oil, but they have a shitty corrupt state-owned oil company.
18:31 immibis; but i know you're happy to literally murder me as long as your electricity is slightly cheaper
18:31 DaemonFC; So they've flatlined as to how much they can extract.
18:32 DaemonFC; Most of these disasters don't affect me much. We're nowhere near any ocean.
18:32 DaemonFC; You'd think that people would stop building things so close to the shore.
18:33 immibis; what disasters
18:33 DaemonFC; Much of the "increase" in damages in dollar terms are they aren't adjusting the dollar loss amount to inflation, and they've built more stuff there and valued it higher.
18:33 DaemonFC; It's not climate change. It's just stupidity and bad accounting practices.
18:33 immibis; what are you talking about
18:33 DaemonFC; The hurricanes.
18:34 immibis; who said anything about hurricanes
18:34 DaemonFC; Every year, the midwest gets outbreaks of tornadoes, dozens of them.
18:34 DaemonFC; Then suddenly something that's been known to happen for hundreds of years is "climate change".
18:35 DaemonFC; They censor anything saying it isn't from search results.
18:35 DaemonFC; You're not allowed to read anything that says it isn't, which really helps the credibility, that they just "tweak" algorithms to hide everything except "Bill says".
18:35 immibis; https://www.c2es.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/us-tornado-activity.png
18:37 DaemonFC; BIng and Google are psyop campaigns.
18:38 DaemonFC; They're designed to make it seem like everyone agrees with whatever their algorithms show you.
18:38 DaemonFC; If anyone develops a forum or search they don't control it's "terrorist tech", according to the SPLC.
18:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: ^
18:39 DaemonFC; Remember that?
18:39 DaemonFC; :)
18:49 schestowitz[TR]; splc
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; neo-splc
18:50 schestowitz[TR]; apologists of terror
18:50 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2023/04/02/959184720/ryuichi-sakamoto-a-godfather-of-electronic-pop-has-died
18:50 TR Bot; Ryuichi Sakamoto of Yellow Magic Orchestra dies at 71 : NPR
18:51 DaemonFC; "akamoto went on to score such films as Bernardo Bertolucci's The Last Emperor (1987) for which he won an Oscar, a Golden Globe and a Grammy, along with co-composers David Byrne and Chinese composer Cong Su"
18:51 DaemonFC; *Sakamoto
18:51 DaemonFC; I actually ended up watching that movie because I noticed who did the soundtrack.
18:51 DaemonFC; The movie was actually quite good.
18:52 DaemonFC; It was actually the Japanese that treated him very badly. They turned him into a puppet and murdered his child and wife.
18:52 DaemonFC; He figured that they were a way back into power, and he actually had no power.
18:53 DaemonFC; The Communists in China didn't treat him that badly after the end of the Japanese occupation.
18:53 DaemonFC; The Japanese figured they would win the war eventually and they didn't want him to have any heirs.
18:54 DaemonFC; He kept trying to convince himself that he was actually a head of state.
18:57 DaemonFC; I think the Chinese didn't really see the need to kill Puyi because he had no real power anyway and if they created a martyr it could make trouble.
18:57 DaemonFC; Better to just wait and let him die of old age.
18:57 DaemonFC; Like everyone does if they live long enough.
18:58 DaemonFC; I'm sure they had a close eye on him.
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
19:01 DaemonFC; It's interesting that the Russians didn't try to keep Manchuria for themselves.
19:01 DaemonFC; The Chinese military wouldn't have really been able to stop them.
19:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: This pulling out nearly WWII-era tanks thing is ridiculous.
19:03 DaemonFC; Ukraine operates a very heavily upgraded variant, about 28 of them.
19:04 DaemonFC; But they have modernized fire control, gun stabilization, reactive composite armor.
19:04 DaemonFC; I actually think they replaced the entire gun for that matter, with a British model that was designed to destroy those old T-55s.
19:05 DaemonFC; They modified the engine so it's rated at 600 horsepower instead of the Russian ones with 500, which increases the top speed to about 46 miles per hour, up from 38, which is comparable to a modern tank.
19:06 DaemonFC; A lot of countries inherited large stocks of old Soviet-era tanks, but they didn't just mothball them like the Russians did.
19:06 DaemonFC; They massively upgraded them because it's cheaper to do a modernization program than it is to build new tanks. But the Russians are sending these things in with their original specs from the 40s and 50s.
19:07 DaemonFC; I think the Russians will be sorry they did this.
19:07 DaemonFC; There's almost nothing there in the way of armor protecting the tank crews.
19:07 MinceR; depends on which russians
19:07 MinceR; putler doesn't care
19:08 DaemonFC; There's not even an autoloader.
19:08 MinceR; the underlings have been sorry for at least a year
19:08 DaemonFC; So you need an extra person in there to load shells.
19:08 MinceR; putler can only be made sorry by capturing him and torturing and/or executing him
19:14 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/04/02/two-men-accused-of-robbing-jewelry-kiosk-at-gunpoint-at-belvidere-mall-in-waukegan/
19:15 TR Bot; Two men accused of robbing jewelry kiosk at gunpoint at Belvidere Mall in Waukegan
19:15 DaemonFC; Prosecutor : Lincoln Sternn, you stand here accused of 12 counts of murder in the first degree, 14 counts of armed theft of Federation property, 22 counts of piracy in high space, 18 counts of fraud, 37 counts of rape...
19:16 DaemonFC; [pauses to check the criminal record]
19:16 DaemonFC; Prosecutor : ...and one moving violation. How do you plead?
19:16 MinceR; :)
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19:24 DaemonFC; Cristofer Y. Ixmay-Vicente, 19, of Waukegan, was charged with one count of aggravated robbery indicating a firearm, operating an uninsured motor vehicle, no valid registration and driving without a license.
19:24 DaemonFC; MinceR: Ixmay on the Vicente-hay.
19:25 DaemonFC; Most prosecutors pile on all these extra charges once they have you on something really bad.
19:26 DaemonFC; It dials up the pressure to plead guilty to something to get the rest to go away.
19:26 DaemonFC; I always get my vehicle registered about 5-6 months before it's even due.
19:27 DaemonFC; Sometimes on the 2nd of January, the first day they have the stickers.
19:27 DaemonFC; The fine for getting pulled over without the current sticker is pretty steep, and then you also have to go buy the sticker, obviously.
19:28 DaemonFC; Usually if you miss multiple years and don't get pulled over somehow, you have to prove that you had the car garaged and didn't drive it on any public streets or else they'll go back each year and force you to pay that year, plus a late fee equal to 100% of the sticker for that year.
19:28 MinceR; :)
19:29 DaemonFC; It works that way with city stickers too.
19:29 DaemonFC; It gets expensive to break the law.
19:29 DaemonFC; Or in some cases, to allegedly have broken the law.
19:30 DaemonFC; I'm surprised that GULAG didn't realize you could take a plea deal and enter a no contest plea and avoid any sort of conviction sometimes.
19:30 DaemonFC; It depends on what the prosecutor really wants to do with this.
19:31 DaemonFC; He keeps insisting that Roy did something wrong by reporting on the Microsoft Strangler.
19:31 DaemonFC; As long as that record is a public arrest record, you can say the guy was arrested.
19:32 DaemonFC; The only way Graveley could demand that Roy take it down is if a court expunged the arrest record.
19:32 DaemonFC; As long as you're only reporting it as what the public record reflects, you haven't done anything wrong or actionable.
19:33 DaemonFC; For example, if Mr. GULAG said I was arrested or convicted, that's defamation at this point.
19:33 DaemonFC; Because he'd be reporting something that didn't happen according to the public records.
19:34 DaemonFC; So basically if I go applying for apartments and they report anything, I have grounds for suing that background check company.
19:35 DaemonFC; Reputation harm, slander, costs of having to continue my apartment search, etc.
19:35 DaemonFC; They'd also be liable for action from state regulators for violating the relevant statutes on reporting false information.
19:52 phanes; <psydroid2> you can say yuhong bai bai to your (creative) freedom if you choose Kroah-Hartmanux as the base of your distro <--- it should actually be quite non-problematic to swap out a linux kernel with a bsd kernel in Pyrois
19:53 phanes; or use a librekernel etc
19:55 XRevan86; https://pine64.org/2023/04/01/march-update-tablet-bonanza/ RISC-V
19:55 TR Bot; March Update: Tablet Bonanza! | PINE64
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20:20 t0talist; didn't follow the discussion
20:21 t0talist; anyway, phanes, which compiler/toolchain to swap out then?
20:22 t0talist; of cause, swapping kernel isn't as trivial as a bootloader jmp main("hello world");
20:22 t0talist; but even for this, you need a compiler/assembler/linker
20:23 t0talist; it's stating the obvious, nonetheless, the problems involved, are greatly understimated
20:26 phanes; depends on what you're swapping it out for tbh. different bsd's have different kernels, build systems, supported architectures etc. but you'd probably also have to swap out the systemd unit for a more bsd-friendly init system
20:26 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tumblr-gets-deep-3-30-23-5.jpg
20:26 phanes; none of that is terribly difficult
20:27 t0talist; well, my system is init=/bin/sh with a while loop spawning gettys; that's a non-issue
20:27 t0talist; however, the compiler/toolchain choice, among *nix/bsd etc.. isn't trivial
20:28 phanes; im not sure why you wouldn't just continue to to use gcc
20:28 t0talist; well, i am using gcc/binutils still... an old version of it, which i want to abandon too
20:29 phanes; ok, well, that is a different problem than you were talking about
20:29 t0talist; phanes: well, why would anyone want to abandon it
20:30 t0talist; the entire toolchain from GNU, from Mapple llvm whichever version
20:30 t0talist; why would any sane developer want to abandon those?
20:30 phanes; well, honestly i see it. gcc is spaghetti. llvm is really quite promising.
20:31 phanes; clang and all that
20:31 t0talist; with either you may say "bai bai to your (creative) freedom if you choose" any
20:31 phanes; yeah there is a license issue
20:31 t0talist; i am not worried about either licensing of them
20:32 phanes; you sound like you have a point
20:32 phanes; i just dont see that you've actually expressed it
20:34 t0talist; i am not saying, for example, tcc-toolchain (it's a compiler/linker/assembler, that's why i call it toolchain)
20:35 t0talist; i am not saying it's perfect for everything
20:35 t0talist; however, creating a set of cross-compilers/linkers with it, requires less than 5 minutes to compile
20:35 t0talist; that's just one aspect
20:35 phanes; ok
20:36 t0talist; if i need to test various versions of any compiler for whatever reason
20:36 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/10-year-old-windows-bug-with-opt-in-fix-exploited-in-3cx-attack/
20:36 TR Bot; 10-year-old Windows bug with 'opt-in' fix exploited in 3CX attack
20:36 t0talist; and then, the fun begins, which freedom of choice remains, with *BSD/GNU their kernels and toolchains
20:36 t0talist; which are vendor-locked, bloated and obfuscated beyond repair
20:36 t0talist; and written in c++ besides, to accomplish even more bloat in particular
20:37 phanes; what
20:37 phanes; sorry i didn't realize you were completely full of shit
20:37 t0talist; it's none of mine
20:37 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-money-message-ransomware-demands-million-dollar-ransoms/
20:37 TR Bot; New Money Message ransomware demands million dollar ransoms
20:39 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/the-fda-medical-device-cybersecurity-overhaul-real-teeth
20:39 TR Bot; The FDA's Medical Device Cybersecurity Overhaul Has Real Teeth
20:39 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/automatic-officlal-updates-malicious-3cx-enterprises
20:39 TR Bot; Automatic Updates Deliver Malicious 3CX 'Upgrades' to Enterprises
20:40 t0talist; 99% of the advertisements from techrights-news here, refer to software and hardware products, which can't detangle from the mentioned bloatware from GNU/BSD and the entities behind controlling them
20:41 t0talist; simple test: CC=tcc LD=tcc AS=tcc AR=tcc ... and see how far you'll get, with any of the free malware
20:41 t0talist; i mean, it's fast, compile-time it's 10x faster than llvm/gnu; and as a sanity check, it's not too much to ask for
20:42 psydroid2; I don't read 99% of techrights-news
20:43 t0talist; and there's is other compilers/linkers/assemblers/binutils available, for x86 in particular, to see how awesome GNU/BSD really are
20:43 psydroid2; but someone must like reading it, I suppose
20:43 phanes; it has potential
20:43 phanes; he has a hard time distinguishing his feelings from facts
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20:47 AdmFubar; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/what-made-pre-elon-musk-twitter-relevant
20:47 TR Bot; Without Verification, What Is the Point of Elon Musks Twitter? | Electronic Frontier Foundation
20:49 AdmFubar; iphone user can now go both ways https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/samsungs-new-web-app-turns-your-iphone-into-a-galaxy-s23
20:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/samsungs-new-web-app-turns-your-iphone-into-a-galaxy-s23 )
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21:05 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey 2.53.16 is released.
21:05 DaemonFC; I was told that the actual changes "number in the thousands".
21:05 DaemonFC; They're not real good about maintaining the release notes, so those can be misleading.
21:05 AdmFubar; https://ffii.org/unified-patent-court-will-replace-its-judges-and-lawyers-with-ai-to-make-justice-finally-affordable-to-smes/
21:05 TR Bot; Unified Patent Court will replace its judges and lawyers with AI to make justice finally affordable to SMEs | FFII
21:08 MinceR; lol
21:08 MinceR; the UPC and justice
21:10 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/tumblr-gets-deep-3-30-23-7.jpg
21:10 DaemonFC; I was surprised at the sheer amount of Netscape-era mail and news code that got dumped this release cycle.
21:10 DaemonFC; And all to support some weird Sun calendar thing that hasn't even been used by anyone in years.
21:16 AdmFubar; i thought you'd be amused
21:16 AdmFubar; https://free.law/2023/03/28/relaunching-big-cases-and-bots-dot-law
21:16 TR Bot; Relaunching the Big Cases Bot and The RoadAhead | Free Law Project | Making the legal ecosystem more equitable and competitive.
21:17 DaemonFC; I can't wait for people to show up in court arguing motions that some chat bot hallucinated.
21:18 DaemonFC; I mean some of it might work, but it's going to lead to some awkwardness when the judge informs the person that's not how this works and they insist that ChatGPT knows more than the judge.
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21:20 DaemonFC; I had ChatGPT write up a Complaint against GEICO but I gave it about a paragraph of the things I wanted it to say and let it fill in the rest as sort of a form letter. It's okay as an autocomplete if you read what it actually produces.
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21:36 mjg59_; DaemonFC: On the contrary, there's plenty of legal precedent that it's not defamatory to say someone was arrested even if that arrest has since been expunged
21:36 mjg59_; As a matter of law, the arrest may not have happened. That doesn't mean it didn't happen as a matter of fact.
21:36 DaemonFC; It actually is defamatory.
21:36 DaemonFC; Illinois law says reporting an expunged arrest record gives the victim grounds to sue for monetary damages.
21:37 mjg59_; There may be other laws that come into play here! That doesn't make it defamation
21:38 DaemonFC; Well, for starters if you're a credit reporting bureau of any kind, you've violated federal law, which opens up the door to even more damages than the victim can get in state court.
21:38 DaemonFC; But they can sue you for both, of course.
21:38 mjg59_; I am, in fact, not a credit reporting bureau
21:38 DaemonFC; Well, that still leaves state law.
21:39 mjg59_; State law that binds individual speech, rather than prohibiting use of information under certain circumstances?
21:39 DaemonFC; I was simply saying that if it was a credit reporting bureau or tenant screening company, it also violates the FACT Act and the Fair Housing Act. (both in the case of tenant screening companies)
21:40 DaemonFC; In addition to being defamatory.
21:40 mjg59_; It's not defamatory
21:40 DaemonFC; It is.
21:40 mjg59_; Since it's true to say that someone whose arrest was expunged was arrested
21:40 phanes; i love how the only confirmed defamer in the channel has such nuanced opinions about what constitutes defamation or not, sounds like someone's been spending alot of time looking up ways to try to get around defamation law to meet the spirit of defamation without its consequences
21:41 phanes; dude is full of snakes
21:41 DaemonFC; " it is possible to sue someone for defamation if they make false statements about you that damage your reputation. If you were arrested in Illinois but the arrest was expunged, then the arrest record is no longer public information. Therefore, if someone were to say that you were arrested, they would be making a false statement. If that false statement caused you to suffer damages, such as...
21:41 DaemonFC; ...emotional distress or lost employment opportunities, then you may be able to sue the person who made the statement for defamation."
21:42 phanes; DaemonFC, the problem with defamation is it has such a short time limit to sue
21:43 DaemonFC; So yes, in addition to the credit and housing laws, there's a defamation case in it. Of course, since Graveley never expunged his arrest record, it is still public information in Texas.
21:43 DaemonFC; Therefore, true.
21:43 phanes; by the time you can quantify damages its usually too late to sue someone when they defame you
21:43 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Uh-huh. And can you point at the cases where that has worked out?
21:43 phanes; in the absence of judicial justice i advocate frontier justice
21:43 mjg59_; DaemonFC: (And where's that claim even from?)
21:44 DaemonFC; "Sure. Here are a few cases where someone has successfully sued for defamation due to reporting an expunged arrest in the United States:
21:44 DaemonFC; In the case of Glover v. Jefferson County Newspapers, Inc., 734 So. 2d 1084 (Ala. 1999), a man sued a newspaper for reporting that he had been arrested for drug possession. The man had been arrested, but the charges were later dropped. The man argued that the newspaper's report was false and defamatory, and he was awarded $100,000 in damages.
21:44 DaemonFC; In the case of Simmons v. City of New York, 98 N.Y.2d 248 (1990), a woman sued a website for reporting that she had been arrested for prostitution. The woman had been arrested, but the charges were later dropped. The woman argued that the website's report was false and defamatory, and she was awarded $250,000 in damages.
21:44 DaemonFC; In the case of Barnes v. Yahoo! Inc., 570 F.3d 1096 (9th Cir. 2009), a man sued a website for reporting that he had been arrested for child pornography. The man had been arrested, but the charges were later dropped. The man argued that the website's report was false and defamatory, and he was awarded $75,000 in damages.
21:44 DaemonFC; It is important to note that these are just a few examples, and the outcome of any particular case will depend on the specific facts and circumstances involved. If you are considering suing someone for defamation due to reporting an expunged arrest, it is important to speak with an experienced attorney to discuss your case and your legal options."
21:44 mjg59_; Are you seriously asking ChatGPT
21:45 mjg59_; Because I'm pretty sure those cases don't exist
21:45 DaemonFC; " In the case of Brogan v. Missouri, 483 S.W.3d 716 (Mo. Ct. App. 2016), a man sued the state of Missouri for reporting that he had been arrested for drug possession. The man had been arrested, but the charges were later expunged. The man argued that the state's report was false and defamatory, and he was awarded $100,000 in damages.
21:45 DaemonFC; In the case of Crawford v. City of San Diego, 2017 WL 4108783 (S.D. Cal. 2017), a man sued the city of San Diego for reporting that he had been arrested for domestic violence. The man had been arrested, but the charges were later expunged. The man argued that the city's report was false and defamatory, and he was awarded $250,000 in damages.
21:45 DaemonFC; In the case of Ramos v. Google, 2018 WL 4025444 (N.D. Cal. 2018), a man sued Google for reporting that he had been arrested for drug possession. The man had been arrested, but the charges were later expunged. The man argued that Google's report was false and defamatory, and he was awarded $75,000 in damages."
21:45 mjg59_; Dude.
21:45 mjg59_; Come the fuck on.
21:45 MinceR; Dude!
21:45 mjg59_; These cases literally don't exist.
21:46 MinceR; Brains!
21:46 psydroid2; Gulag!
21:47 mjg59_; Here's a case that really does exist! "G.D. v. Bernard Kenny and The Hudson County Democratic Organization, Inc."
21:47 phanes; i think the more important question is "why do I and everyone around me spend so much time trying to justify things as not being defamation that are clearly defamatory"
21:48 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/
21:48 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew
21:48 mjg59_; Turns out criticising people isn't defamation, Chris
21:49 phanes; no but defaming them with false accusations is
21:49 phanes; or using color of wording to imply criminal activity where there is none on non-public individuals
21:49 DaemonFC; If a court has ruled that an arrest never happened, then claiming it happened is a false statement and designed to cause someone's reputation to be harmed.
21:50 phanes; it also carries the color of guilt DaemonFC
21:50 mjg59_; DaemonFC: A court can rule that an arrest didn't occur *as it pertains to the law*, but it can't retroactively alter history
21:50 DaemonFC; If anyone continues to report it on a background check, they're in deep shit.
21:51 phanes; DaemonFC, one thing serial defamers rely on like a drug is using innuendo and to communicate to people defamation that they know they cannot say directly, so, they'll use the color of language to give any idiot the same impression as having directly said it
21:51 mjg59_; The law can also forbid the use of expunged arrest information under various circumstances
21:51 phanes; s/and//
21:52 mjg59_; But it would obviously be a free speech issue to forbid someone who saw someone being arrested for saying so, even if the arrest was later expunged
21:52 phanes; like, for example, calling a satire act "identity theft" to give idiots the impression of felony activity
21:53 mjg59_; phanes: Does you saying that I engaged in defamation imply that you believe I engaged in illegal activity?
21:53 phanes; instead of calling it "identity theft", according to our resident bag of snakes, you can just say "stole someone's identity to harass" and suddenly the color of the description implies the same meaning without having said the name of the crime you intend to falsely convey
21:53 DaemonFC; TransUnion can't report court supervision in the first place.
21:54 DaemonFC; They got sued big time for that and decided to just quit reporting it at all, even if underlying records existed somewhere.
21:54 phanes; mjg59_, i think any person above about an 8th grade reading level would find it fairly obvious that you're a habitual liar that harms people with false words and innuendo
21:54 mjg59_; phanes: Do you believe that I'm breaking the law?
21:54 DaemonFC; What about Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
21:55 psydroid2; she turned into a vampire herself in the end
21:55 phanes; i think anyone who spends any time looking into it will also find that you do this deliberately, mjg59_, with alot of time and attention spent looking for ways to do it that would allow you to claim technicalities to escape accountability for it
21:55 mjg59_; phanes: Do you believe that I'm breaking the law?
21:56 phanes; i believe you've caused actional damages to people repeatedly for most of your career, though I would treat that as civil tort and not criminal
21:56 phanes; *actionable
21:57 phanes; if everyone who has different objectives than you has to have a community fund for legal pursuits in case you target them, then you might just be a bag of snakes
21:57 mjg59_; phanes: Well, yes, defamation is generally understood to be a matter of civil law
21:58 mjg59_; phanes: But cool! I'm glad that you admit that you're accusing me of having violated civil law. Would you say that this is a statement of fact or a statement of opinion?
21:59 phanes; honestly the radical leftist crowd you associate with is hallmarked by acts of targeting innocents with defamation, particularly on social media in like situations, so, it's not as outrageous as i make it sound -- i think probably the part I dislike is you're childish lack of accountability for it based on your faulty perception of what that person's social standing is
21:59 mjg59_; I mean, it doesn't really matter here, under any realistic standards I'd probably be held as a limited public figure, and there's no realistic chance that I'd be able to demonstrate active malice against you here
22:00 phanes; you're missing the point entirely
22:00 phanes; im currently not speaking about law. im speaking of your morality and character. you're a bag of snakes.
22:00 mjg59_; Well, no, this is me saying that you accusing me of violating the law doesn't meet the standard of defamation, regardless of its factual basis
22:00 DaemonFC; It would be true if you said that someone who had their record SEALED had been arrested or convicted.
22:00 DaemonFC; But with expungement, that isn't true anymore.
22:01 MinceR; this is an insult to snakes
22:01 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Ok, find a case that backs you up here.
22:01 DaemonFC; A record sealing means that the records still exist, it just makes it impossible for the public to look at them through the court's computer system or by asking the clerk.
22:01 phanes; mjg59_, look, if the end result of your statement is a false impression to tens of thousands of people that a felony was committed by someone, then you've absolutely defamed someone in every sense that matters.
22:01 DaemonFC; Expungement means the records are destroyed and it no longer actually happened, meaning it would be a lie to report that it did at that point.
22:02 DaemonFC; Getting a record sealed doesn't reverse a conviction, it just reduces the number of people who can look at it.
22:02 mjg59_; phanes: I think you'd be hard pressed to find tens of thousands of people who interpreted my tweet as asserting you'd committed a felony
22:02 DaemonFC; It can still show up on background checks sometimes, depending on the context.
22:02 DaemonFC; So a sealing isn't great, but it's better than nothing.
22:02 mjg59_; phanes: I think you'd be hard pressed to find one
22:02 mjg59_; (other than yourself)
22:03 DaemonFC; For example, if you were going to work at a nursing home but had a conviction for domestic or elder abuse.
22:03 phanes; i think you know that matt, and that all this faux-legalise is just one more point in your life where you passed up on doing the right thing to try to falsely argue your innocence through technicalities and loopholes and innuendo and supposition
22:03 DaemonFC; They could see that.
22:03 phanes; mjg59_, just like your partner
22:03 DaemonFC; If you were going to work at a daycare center, but had sealed a charge of statutory rape, they could see that.
22:03 mjg59_; phanes: And, remember, I did offer to expressly make it clear that I wasn't accusing you of a crime
22:03 DaemonFC; But if you're applying to work at McDonalds, no.
22:03 phanes; mjg59_, yes you should be doing that anyway
22:04 DaemonFC; It's like a need to know basis with a record sealing.
22:04 DaemonFC; For many jobs and purposes, the public no longer has a "need to know".
22:04 DaemonFC; But expungement wipes the records themselves. Not even the cops know.
22:04 phanes; Satire is not "stealing someone's identity", and you crafted that statement for the sole purpose of people interpreting it as identify theft.
22:04 phanes; *identity
22:05 DaemonFC; The police in Illinois have 60 days from the expungement order to destroy your RAP sheet with the state police, and shred and delete any files with the arresting agency.
22:05 DaemonFC; It also sends the order to the FBI, which destroys all information about why you were fingerprinted.
22:05 mjg59_; phanes: If you believe you have an actionable claim then there's an appropriate mechanism to deal with that
22:05 phanes; the same way you crafted your statements about Ted T'so to falsely give the impression he was a "rape apologist"
22:06 DaemonFC; It gets removed from the court's public records terminal very quickly.
22:06 mjg59_; DaemonFC: All of this is true, and entirely irrelevant
22:06 phanes; mjg59_, there is a term of one year to file suit in both jurisdictions
22:06 DaemonFC; Often by 12:01 AM the next day.
22:06 phanes; mjg59_, guess how i know that
22:06 mjg59_; phanes: And yet you chose not to, interesting
22:06 phanes; mjg59_, it's not a relevant point
22:06 mjg59_; phanes: It's pretty relevant!
22:07 DaemonFC; In short, not even the court itself will know it happened within 60 days.
22:07 mjg59_; If you had any honest conviction in the justice of the situation, you'd have taken action against me
22:07 mjg59_; But you chose not to
22:07 mjg59_; Because you know you had no case
22:07 mjg59_; And so you continue to whine on the internet
22:07 phanes; people who aren't bags of snakes don't spend their lives roaming around looking for oppertunities to sue people
22:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_: What do you think about these figures.... Black defendants are 48% less likely than White ones in Illinois to get an order of expungement in similar cases.
22:07 DaemonFC; Which is just slightly better than Florida (52%).
22:08 mjg59_; You weren't looking for an opportunity! You expressly accused me of defamation!
22:08 mjg59_; And then, rather than actually filing suit, you did nothing
22:08 mjg59_; Except write a bizarre website
22:08 psydroid2; what was the goal of defaming Ted T'so?
22:08 mjg59_; psydroid2: I didn't
22:08 phanes; they really should do class actions for defamation and extend the window
22:08 DaemonFC; Judges obviously look at Black defendants differently and it's not even a partisan thing.
22:08 phanes; i think you'd qualify tbh
22:08 DaemonFC; The Democrat judges look at Black defendants and see a baseline level of criminality there that's just much higher.
22:09 DaemonFC; But somehow they campaign making it seem like it's only going on in red states.
22:09 mjg59_; phanes: You were aware of what I wrote well within a year, asserted that I'd be hearing from your lawyers, and then nothing happened
22:09 mjg59_; phanes: Why not?
22:09 phanes; mjg59_, if you don't like the site, you can always wrap up the entry series with a published apology and retraction/correction.
22:09 mjg59_; phanes: I could! And you could also have sued me, but you didn't
22:10 phanes; I have no qualms of including that because it would demonstrate character growth
22:10 mjg59_; phanes: Did you even speak to a lawyer?
22:10 DaemonFC; I don't know if he is capable of growth.
22:10 DaemonFC; Growth requires some amount of humility.
22:10 phanes; which, besides vindication, is really my ultimate goal
22:11 mjg59_; Losing a lawsuit would definitely be a trigger for personal reflection
22:11 phanes; yeah, there he is
22:11 phanes; lost in his own dark woods of trivialities, searching for water in a crystal clear creek
22:11 mjg59_; Because it would be a pretty strong indiciation that my underlying assumptions were wrong
22:12 mjg59_; phanes: So, did you even speak to a lawyer?
22:12 phanes; mjg59_, it's none of your business what i talk to my attorneys about
22:12 mjg59_; phanes: Why did you not sue me?
22:13 phanes; this isn't a discussion about my relationship with my attorneys this is a discussion about your chronic behaviour that is really a matter of public record at this point
22:13 mjg59_; phanes: If I were to say "Chris Punches didn't sue me because his lawyers told him there was no chance of him winning", would that be untrue?
22:13 phanes; and your horrible soul behind it that knows, fully, of its culpability, and wants to hide behind some technical argument
22:13 phanes; that would be untrue
22:14 phanes; in any case, you're still missing the point
22:14 mjg59_; Ok! If I were to say "Chris Punches didn't sue me because he never even asked a lawyer whether my tweet was defamatory", would that be untrue?
22:15 phanes; you want to change the topic to one about technicalities in law so you can worm around in a complex set of legal rules totally separated from the morality of your repeated act, which is the actual discussion topic
22:15 phanes; no that would be untrue as well
22:15 mjg59_; No, I want to understand why you threatened to sue me and then didn't
22:15 phanes; because i was angry and then changed my mind about the strategy I want to take
22:15 phanes; based on the result of my actions
22:15 mjg59_; Ah! Was that so hard?
22:16 phanes; nothing is harder than getting a narcissist to admit wrongdoing
22:16 psydroid2; in order to have a horrible soul you have to have a soul in the first place
22:16 psydroid2; I don't think there is any
22:16 mjg59_; Anyway, you believe that there is no potential at this stage for a court to find that my actions constituted defamation?
22:16 psydroid2; a narcissist never does anything wrong
22:17 psydroid2; so there is nothing to admit
22:17 phanes; yeah. either way, the guy's got a 13 year track record of defaming people with politically charged accusations with a consistent theme, and is even partnered (married?) to someone with the same track record
22:17 phanes; so it's obviously behaviour that's being socially reinforced
22:18 phanes; and tbh that specific community has gained a reputation in recent years for that being a common theme
22:18 mjg59_; DaemonFC: I guess you haven't found any cases that support your claim that it's defamatory to say that someone with an expunged arrest was arrested?
22:18 phanes; if a new law were passed that said "anybody can say anything about anybody" everything I've said here would still be true.
22:18 DaemonFC; Well, Graveley wasn't even expunged.
22:19 DaemonFC; So what did Roy do that could even possibly be improper>
22:19 DaemonFC; ?
22:19 phanes; he deliberately crafts accusations that either directly or indirectly assert things that he knows is not true so that others can lynch his target, and at times he's done this for career advancement
22:19 phanes; going on 13 years now
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 DaemonFC; Microsoft Loves Stabbers.
22:20 psydroid2; this muppet shouldn't even have a career
22:20 DaemonFC; Especially ones that are Nazis and high on PCP.
22:20 phanes; and has never admitted culpability despite huge waves of people demanding some inkling of human reconciliation on a moral level
22:21 phanes; so i do think we are dealing with a personality disorder and not just some ignorance of the base morality that any person would be expected to meet in a functional community
22:21 DaemonFC; mjg59_: What do you suppose led to the hiring of a Nazi Stabber high on PCP in the first place?
22:21 phanes; it's not "oh im autistic so I don't understand the nuance of what is repeatedly a theme in my life"
22:21 DaemonFC; Or their doing nothing about his frankly termination-worthy comments in the workplace?
22:22 phanes; it's deliberate malice that exploits communities with valid angst to attack his targets on false grounds and its caused serious damage to both those communities and some of his targets
22:22 DaemonFC; Do you think that saying that Indians working at Microsoft with you should have their Green Card canceled for being from India is a productive thing to say in the workplace?
22:22 mjg59_; phanes: By "huge waves" you mean, uh, what?
22:23 DaemonFC; Do you think if he was making comments about prostitutes giving him "unknown STDs" during staff meetings, they should have done....something?
22:23 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23032135
22:23 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
22:23 mjg59_; DaemonFC: I'm assuming you have no evidence to support your assertion about defamation, then?
22:24 phanes; mjg59_, do you deny it?
22:24 mjg59_; phanes: Do I deny there being huge waves of people demanding anything from me? Yeah.
22:24 DaemonFC; Well, Matt, as soon as anyone reports anything in a background check that's not allowed....
22:24 DaemonFC; They will be hearing about it.
22:24 phanes; no, im not talking about that sophistry you're trying to weave, im talking about what DaemonFC said
22:24 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Then that'll be a matter of law regarding background checks, not defamation
22:24 DaemonFC; And paying me a lot of money for having said that, in the end.
22:25 phanes; you request evidence for an event you do not deny so that you can try to shift the argument from a moral one to a technical one
22:25 phanes; is that not what you're doing?
22:25 mjg59_; phanes: Which bit of what daemonfc said? He's got about 15 different conversations going on at once
22:25 phanes; ><mjg59_> DaemonFC: I'm assuming you have no evidence to support your assertion about defamation, then?
22:26 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I'm saying you should go on the record about Microsoft tolerating the inappropriate and bizarre workplace antics of a Nazi they hired who was hopped up on PCP, BEFORE the stabbing occurred.
22:26 phanes; yet again, he shifted it from a moral discussion about an event he knew took place to a technical one to try to muddy the conversation with red herrings
22:26 DaemonFC; Specifically, why they hired him and didn't get rid of him despite having nothing but problems leading up to the stabbing, for nearly 9 months.
22:26 mjg59_; phanes: I deny that saying that someone whose arrest was expunged was arrested is defamatory, since that's what the established law says
22:27 DaemonFC; Johnny Depp won a defamation lawsuit over things that were far less damaging and stupid than an expunged arrest that continued being reported on.
22:27 phanes; mjg59_, ok then can you plainly state that you have no moral disposition at all and rely purely on technical legal navigation instead of a moral compass where these definitions would be obvious and not technical at all?
22:27 DaemonFC; Amber Turd didn't really do so well in court.
22:28 phanes; DaemonFC, yeah, her legal team really shit the bed on that one
22:28 DaemonFC; She made false and misleading statements that were designed to nail herself up on a cross, claiming to be abused by Depp, and he won even though she never said his name.
22:28 mjg59_; phanes: No, whether or not I will engage in an act is an independent judgement from whether or not I believe that act would be illegal
22:28 DaemonFC; It's unfortunate that Anthony Rapp got away with something similar.
22:29 DaemonFC; But there's too much questionable behavior swirling around Kevin Spacey for him to take legal action against Rapp.
22:29 mjg59_; phanes: I don't believe it would be defamatory for me to say that daemonfc had been arrested even if said arrest had been expunged - but I don't think there's any circumstances where I think it would be a reasonable thing for me to do
22:29 phanes; mjg59_, right but do you take into consideration the moral disposition of an act when deciding or do you take into consideration whether you could be held accountable, because it sounds more like the latter based on the totality of your responses on pretty any time you've ever been confronted with your chronic, atrocious, damaging, and dishonest behaviours
22:30 phanes; certainly thoughtless
22:30 DaemonFC; I think it's important that we give Kevin Spacey the benefit of the doubt.
22:30 phanes; s/thoughtless/careless/
22:30 DaemonFC; First off, he's never been put on any sort of criminal trial yet.
22:30 DaemonFC; Secondly, the lawsuit against him ended in an acquittal.
22:31 DaemonFC; So unless the UK manages to convict him, he isn't legally guilty of anything, anywhere, yet.
22:31 mjg59_; phanes: I take a number of things into account before doing anything, just as anyone does
22:31 DaemonFC; They have a system in the UK that wouldn't even be considered a fair trial under American standards.
22:32 DaemonFC; So I'm not even sure I'd buy a conviction under the UK system.
22:32 phanes; i can't tell if it's narcissism or sociopathy
22:32 phanes; i suspect narcissism
22:32 mjg59_; phanes: But I never say anything I know to be false without clearly indicating it as such
22:32 DaemonFC; For starters, in the UK you have the right not to talk to the police, but if you don't, you can be harmed later in court if your defense depends on it.
22:33 mjg59_; Eh. Let's go further. I never say anything I *believe* to be false, even if I cannot absolutely assert that I know it to be false.
22:33 DaemonFC; So it's a question of the rights of the accused. They're just not as strong there. And I'd say it's nowhere near as bad as most legal systems, including China or Japan.
22:33 DaemonFC; But it's also not giving the defendant the right to a defense unencumbered by the police.
22:33 phanes; mjg59_, right, so, this would explain why when you cannot make materially false statements you use innuendo and emotionally charged rhetoric that would allow readers to get the false impression you want to convey right
22:34 mjg59_; phanes: I never intend to give an impression I believe to be false
22:35 phanes; mjg59_, so you believe that satire is identity theft
22:36 mjg59_; I don't believe that anyone's reasonable reading of my tweet would be to conclude you'd engaged in illegal identity theft
22:36 phanes; or was your statement in that specific incident of defamation just poor wording that anyone reading would garner that impression from
22:37 phanes; if it was just poor wording, i mean, i can forgive that
22:37 phanes; but im looking at a track record here going back 11 years
22:37 phanes; so
22:37 phanes; i find it kind of hard to believe, and you certainly haven't said that
22:39 phanes; is that your assertion? just poor wording and now you don't think anyone got that impression?
22:40 mjg59_; I don't believe any reasonable person reading my tweet would have concluded I was accusing you of doing anything illegal
22:40 phanes; then why haven't you clarified it since it was brought to your attention, it being a fairly obvious thing to see when made known to you
22:41 phanes; you don't think you're morally obligated to clarify words you typed that would damage someone's reputation with the tint of criminal accusation
22:42 mjg59_; I said I was happy to at the time, and you said that wasn't sufficient, so I didn't bother
22:42 phanes; especially when confronted with the reality that the person you are targeting lives a life where truth is very valuable and protected, in a community of likeminded people
22:42 phanes; yes taking it down completely would be more appropriate
22:42 phanes; well, to a certain extend
22:42 phanes; now you've done the damage
22:42 phanes; so a correction would be more appropriate at this point
22:43 phanes; because you left it up
22:43 phanes; with a 30,000 person audience
22:43 phanes; and you're going to act like you don't have a social responsibility with that kind of speaking range
22:43 mjg59_; Yes, because I don't think there's anything to correct
22:44 t0talist; i had noticed only, it's mjg59_ being smeared as "gulgaboy" and similar here, in this channel
22:44 mjg59_; I didn't accuse you of doing anything illegal
22:44 mjg59_; I don't think any reasonable person reading that tweet would conclude I did
22:44 t0talist; which is irritating, if there was a chance to talk to FSF people, time is wasted with insults and mud thrown at each other
22:44 phanes; mjg59_, then you should state that to the same audience you accused me of "stealing someone's identity" to
22:45 phanes; in ink-feathered pen imo
22:45 phanes; do you have any idea how much bullshit in the foss community i bite my tongue on because im hazy about a fact or two and dont want to contribute to the cesspool of misinformation that is the internet
22:46 mjg59_; phanes: Find me someone who interpreted it as a claim you'd done something illegal and I'll do so
22:46 phanes; then again, im not part of a community with a growing reputation for targeting heteronormatives with defamation and libel so there is some kind reputation to uphold
22:47 phanes; mjg59_, no i should not need to do anything as i am the one you injured with your false words
22:47 MinceR; t0talist: what's the point of talking to tax-free software foundation people?
22:48 MinceR; they don't even remember why they ran a campaign against mono
22:48 mjg59_; phanes: In the absence of any evidence that anyone interpreted what I wrote in the bizarre way you did, no
22:48 MinceR; they're all about licensing
22:48 MinceR; they're the OSI in a different color
22:48 phanes; mjg59_, what i can commit to as a show of good faith is to include a note with a capture of your correction and a declaration that the entry series is closed
22:48 DaemonFC; I just think mjg59_ could use some relaxation. Dial the Troll Factor down to like 1 or something. Go have a picnic with this Buffy person over at Hetch Hetchy.
22:49 phanes; i would have at some point considered full removal of all content mjg59_ but that was before you kept the original damaging statements published for 2 years, cementing the false impression you gave your audience
22:49 phanes; DaemonFC, im not convinced that he's just being defensive, i suspect he just is completely disconnected from his moral compass under a false entitlement belief
22:50 phanes; people like this think they're better than everyone because of some credential or pedigree and then coast off it for most of their lives hurting people everywhere they go
22:53 DaemonFC; I think they call that White Privilege.
22:54 DaemonFC; White San Francisco Man Sprays Black Homeless Person with Hose.
22:54 DaemonFC; In San Francisco, they get it. The hose.
22:54 MinceR; it puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again
22:58 t0talist; anyway, i'll see to hacking bootloader and linux-2.x meanwhile, to get back some clean free software stack
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:00 t0talist; i already got a linux-2.4 kernel compiled with tcc-toolchain, it boots, and executes, and crashes, because i suspect it's loaded at a wrong address, and then interrupt-service-routines aren't present where these should be
23:01 t0talist; the next test-case will be, utilizing some tccboot-loader snippet hooked into in between... if this works i am certain it's related to bootloader and binutils-linker doing some magic which tcc-linker doesn't
23:01 t0talist; and, if this works, i got a baseline to diff/bisect against; besides linux-2.4 was rather capable already
23:01 MinceR; t0talist: also, if you meant gulag boy, well, he tried to cancel rms
23:01 MinceR; how useful can he be?
23:02 t0talist; linux-2.4 already did have: ACPI, USB, SMP
23:02 t0talist; MinceR: i remain sceptical about both of them, rms and mjg59_
23:02 t0talist; because, i don't accuse them of bad intentions, they're not honest, with what both of them advertise as "free software"
23:03 MinceR; rms gave up on free software
23:03 phanes; lol @ the dracut team calling this "not a bug, but an enhancement request": https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/issues/2301
23:03 TR Bot; compilation requires network connectivity, preventing offline compilation on airgapped servers. Issue #2301 dracutdevs/dracut GitHub
23:03 MinceR; gulag boy serves the enemies of free software
23:03 MinceR; fuck dracut too
23:03 t0talist; nowadays, there isn't an _clean_ free software stack available; simplified speaking
23:03 phanes; like somehow introducing a network dependency on COMPILING THEIR PACKAGE for a low level initramfs management tool is not a serious bug
23:04 t0talist; as soon as anyone touches a typical "free software" system, you're dragged into the realm of those who seized control over it: ibm m$ mapple wintel whoever
23:04 MinceR; i could overlook it if 1) they had actual documentation and 2) the initramfs they generate wasn't dogshit
23:04 phanes; yeah no shit on docs. their docs are horrible and sparse.
23:04 phanes; what's wrong with the initramfs they generate? ive found it to be a useful tool
23:04 *psydroid2 never heard of dracut until now
23:06 MinceR; the way i have FDE set up, it spends minutes printing some message about looking for btrfs volumes before giving me a recovery shell
23:06 MinceR; i don't use btrfs
23:06 phanes; so dont include the module
23:06 MinceR; i wanted to fix it, but after looking at what they had instead of documentation, i got tired and looked for other shit to do
23:06 MinceR; i don't boot GNU/Linux on this system often anyway
23:06 phanes; ew
23:06 phanes; what do you boot
23:07 MinceR; i don't know why void insists on using this POS tool, but i guess there's no alternative in systemd land
23:07 MinceR; GNU/Linux and OpenBSD
23:07 MinceR; but i'm not in the "let's reboot 9001 times per day" club
23:07 MinceR; usually i just leave the thing running or suspend it
23:07 phanes; yeah if only kpatch worked as intended
23:08 MinceR; it's just one more reason for me to look into leaving Kroah-Hartmanux behind
23:08 phanes; what are you considering as an alternative? libre-kernel?
23:08 MinceR; OpenBSD
23:08 phanes; i mean
23:08 phanes; yeah
23:08 phanes; if you're desktoping on a router
23:08 MinceR; FDE Just Works on it
23:08 phanes; FDE?
23:08 MinceR; full disk encryption
23:09 phanes; just works on fedora too
23:09 phanes; quite well actually
23:09 MinceR; but what's the point of using it on fedora?
23:09 DaemonFC; MinceR: Firefox has an update.
23:09 MinceR; your system is chock full of backdoors, what's encrypting the disk going to do?
23:09 phanes; depends on who you're hiding your data from
23:09 DaemonFC; GNOME Software: TIME TO REBOOT!
23:09 MinceR; yeah
23:09 phanes; there are no backdoors in fedora
23:09 phanes; watchu talkin' about man
23:09 MinceR; DaemonFC: windows does it, so it's got to be the right way!
23:09 MinceR; phanes: systemd, for one thing
23:10 phanes; how is the presence of systemd a "back door"
23:10 MinceR; it runs as root all the time and it's deliberately full of bugs
23:10 phanes; systemd has a scope creep issue but not an integrity issue as far as im aware
23:10 MinceR; it listens to network connections
23:10 MinceR; its source code is an undocumented mess
23:10 MinceR; the main person responsible for it has no idea what he's doing
23:11 DaemonFC; https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/30/tech/ftc-openai-gpt-ai-think-tank/index.html
23:11 TR Bot; The FTC should investigate OpenAI and block GPT over 'deceptive' behavior, AI think tank claims | CNN Business
23:11 MinceR; and the cartel is doing everything they can to force it on us
23:11 psydroid2; and works for Microsoft
23:11 phanes; hey, if you fork systemd and strip out everything except "system initialisation" and "service state management" I'll move over to that
23:11 t0talist; at least, systemd can be removed/replaced easily, if you don't need Gnome/GTK dbus too is easily wiped
23:11 MinceR; working for dehomag wasn't better either
23:11 MinceR; if i fork systemd, i get to keep it up-to-date with upstream so gnome doesn't die on it
23:11 t0talist; however, there is other components, which have severe issues, and can't be replaced/removed with a decent alternative
23:11 MinceR; and its design would still be utter shit
23:11 phanes; fuck gnome
23:11 t0talist; which is, mainly, the GNU-toolchain itself (or mapple llvm alike)
23:11 MinceR; and i'd still have to deal with a ton of shitty code
23:12 phanes; i dont give a shit about gnome
23:12 MinceR; there's literally no point to forking systemd
23:12 psydroid2; no one should give a shit about gnomes, they're evil creatures
23:12 MinceR; it's a pointless piece of shit nobody asked for, trying to do the job of a thousand other things, poorly
23:12 t0talist; currently, i'm getting rid of the last remains which depend on gcc-compiler
23:12 MinceR; and it's going to be more than gnome anyway
23:12 phanes; yeah where i gave up on the systemd wave was when they started trying to fuck dns into it
23:12 t0talist; the GNU binutils assembler, this one, is alot of work remaining... although it's only a few lines of bootloader code, to assemble
23:13 phanes; ill admit that on newer fedora releases, trying to figure out the chain for dns resolution is a pita
23:13 *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed)
23:13 phanes; i usually disable most of systemd and turn on networkmanager
23:13 phanes; which isn't that much better but its better than that resolved shit
23:13 MinceR; even just getting by eithout [e]logind is becoming a challenge
23:14 MinceR; meanwhile OpenBSD has X without root via Xenocara in a way that isn't completely insane
23:14 phanes; im in the process right now of pruning alot of OOB configuration out of systemd for DHLP
23:14 phanes; people misunderstand how amazingly full of potential X really is
23:14 MinceR; and a sound server that isn't an eldritch horror
23:14 MinceR; yeah, people don't understand X
23:14 phanes; X was designed to be a network-based graphical system
23:15 MinceR; which is why waylandows exists
23:15 MinceR; though, speaking of [e]logind, there's seatd
23:15 MinceR; i suppose that lets you dodge a chunk of the insanity that's replacing GNU/Linux
23:16 psydruid; has the design of X ever been documented?
23:16 MinceR; \_()_/
23:16 phanes; so i think what the plan is for next steps here is i need to get this livecd panned out of boot kinks, and then copy the sysroot into a subdirectory of itself, then have it turn the livecd into an installer that selects target system
23:16 phanes; im using an ncurses approach for the installer to avoid having to fuck with X forever for a livecd
23:17 phanes; what's good these days for a tui based disk formatting tool
23:17 MinceR; if there's a book on the design of X, sign me up
23:17 MinceR; phanes: mkfs?
23:17 phanes; MinceR, ha, no man, i need some curses dialogs and disk selection and shit
23:17 MinceR; :)
23:17 phanes; it needs to be a wizard guided install
23:18 phanes; so they boot the livecd, get some branding, then put in hostname, prepare and format a disk, select their target mounts etc, set up initial user, and then it copies the sysroot to target mounts and reboots right
23:19 phanes; plus the curses dialogs is a great throwback to freebsd and slackware
23:19 MinceR; :
23:19 MinceR; :)
23:19 phanes; especially considering this first release when stable -should- allow users to install slackpkg
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23:20 phanes; so conceivably they could run "DHLP + Slackware Ecosystem"
23:20 phanes; the idea is to give developers alot of options about the distro they want to create
23:20 phanes; along the way to creating one more specialized
23:20 MinceR; might as well throw in pkgsrc :>
23:20 phanes; MinceR, or the fbsd ports system
23:21 phanes; i wouldn't be doing either of those, but i would want the first release to be clean and empty enough to allow someone to
23:22 phanes; because folks can then just fork that release, update some base package build scripts and sources, and then they've got their own thing and can spawn just fractals of new communities
23:22 mjg59_; phanes: What's broken with your distro that xsltproc can't find docbook.xsl?
23:22 phanes; hopefully ones that replace the old guard and the corporatist movement with people more sane
23:23 phanes; mjg59_, what do you mean
23:23 mjg59_; phanes: Look at the command line. xsltproc is being passed "-nonet", which means it won't actually try to download anything.
23:23 mjg59_; phanes: The URL is the canonical name of the xslt file. It should already be on your filesystem.
23:24 phanes; yeah i thought that was weird. it is being passed -nonet but then iits being fed a sourceforge url
23:24 phanes; compiles fine on a network-enabled system
23:24 mjg59_; phanes: This is you not understanding xsltproc, not dracut requiring network access
23:24 mjg59_; Just install the xsl file
23:25 phanes; dracut's makefile kicks off that xsltproc execution
23:26 mjg59_; Yes. The docbook.xsl file is a build dependency.
23:26 phanes; so if there was an issue it would likely be in the xsltproc compilation, i mean, i can't rule out that the xsltproc build is missing some option
23:26 mjg59_; xsltproc doesn't include the xsl files
23:26 mjg59_; The stylesheets are generally shipped separately
23:26 phanes; i was referring to it ignoring the -nonet option but admittedly i haven't debugged this
23:27 phanes; at an abstraction, dracut is telling xsltproc to download a network resource if docs are compiled.
23:28 mjg59_; dracut is explicitly telling xsltproc *not* to do that
23:28 mjg59_; Maybe your xsltproc is broken? Who knows!
23:28 phanes; and xsltproc is ignoring that and doing it anyway. yep i see it. this may end up being an xsltproc filing.
23:28 mjg59_; But the issue is still that you just don't have the relevant stylesheet available
23:29 mjg59_; Otherwise it'll use it
23:29 phanes; right that's what the error says.
23:29 mjg59_; So fix your build dependencies
23:29 mjg59_; dracut's doing nothing wrong here
23:29 mjg59_; Maybe you should apologise for defaming them
23:30 phanes; wish you were as good at fixing your own harm as you were at evaluating toolchain failure reports
23:30 mjg59_; Says guy who doesn't know how his tools work and immediately blames a project doing nothing wrong
23:31 phanes; could be
23:31 phanes; ill know for sure when its time to debug it
23:33 mjg59_; libxml2's error output is unhelpful here, but the "I/O error : Attempt to load network entity" error means "You attempted to load a network entity even though -nonet was passed"
23:34 mjg59_; It'll only get to there if it can't load it from the local catalog
23:34 phanes; yeah that libxslt compile is pretty clean.
23:34 phanes; https://github.com/SILO-GROUP/Pyrois/blob/master/rex.project/x86_64/components/livecd/libxml2.bash#L136
23:34 TR Bot; at master SILO-GROUP/Pyrois GitHub
23:36 phanes; there is a typoe in that configure but it should assume the PYTHON
23:38 phanes; not present in: https://github.com/SILO-GROUP/Pyrois/blob/master/rex.project/x86_64/components/livecd/libxslt.bash
↺ https://github.com/SILO-GROUP/Pyrois/blob/master/rex.project/x86_64/components/livecd/libxslt.bash
23:38 TR Bot; at master SILO-GROUP/Pyrois GitHub
23:39 phanes; stderr from libxslt build: https://paste.silogroup.org/ekeqavepik.cs
23:39 TR Bot; hastebin
23:39 phanes; yeah it's doing the same thing there
23:40 phanes; that's interesting
23:40 phanes; also looks like it's using python2 code where python3 code should be
23:40 phanes; damn that's ugly
23:43 phanes; yeah i have a feeling that'll be a libxslt bug report instead of a dracut report later
23:44 MinceR; assume the position
23:44 phanes; i already assumed :P
23:44 MinceR; :)
23:51 mjg59_; I don't know why you think there's a bug here!
23:51 mjg59_; You need the stylesheet. You don't have the stylesheet. It can't download it from the network.
23:51 phanes; well in all fairness we've established that you don't think alot of things
23:51 mjg59_; Just install the stylesheet
23:52 phanes; what's that phrase
23:52 phanes; oh
23:52 phanes; "pull requests are welcome"
23:53 mjg59_; ?
23:53 mjg59_; How do you expect it to build docs that require the docbook stylesheet without having the docbook stylesheet?
23:53 phanes; https://docs.github.com/en/pull-requests/collaborating-with-pull-requests/proposing-changes-to-your-work-with-pull-requests/creating-a-pull-request
23:53 TR Bot; Creating a pull request - GitHub Docs
23:57 mjg59_; phanes: What do you have in /etc/xml/catalog ?
23:57 phanes; im not sure, you can check, it's on the iso
23:58 mjg59_; It's likely that you don't have an entry for "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current" in there, or that the file it's pointing at doesn't exist
23:58 TR Bot; Index of /release/xsl/current
23:58 mjg59_; Fix that and your "bug" will go away
23:58 phanes; the Pyrois build project is only tested on fedora and i haven't mapped its package dependencies yet so some trial and error on getting it going is needed
23:59 phanes; ill eventually have one of the early build steps install those
23:59 mjg59_; If your build env is Fedora, make sure docbook-style-xsl is installed
23:59 phanes; the pyrois package dependencies i mean
23:59 phanes; the build env is not fedora
23:59 phanes; the build env is a cross-compiled sysroot
23:59 phanes; the pyrois orchestration of that process is on fedora
23:59 mjg59_; Are you installing the docbook stylesheets into it?
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