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08:11 Techrights-sec2; can SFTP be used instead?
08:11 Techrights-sec2; # df -h /home/roy/temp/
08:11 Techrights-sec2; Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
08:11 Techrights-sec2; /dev/sdb1 7.0G 24K 6.7G 1% /home/roy/temp
08:11 Techrights-sec2; I've put a detachable USB stick there temporarily
08:12 schestowitz-TR; the files (2 of them) are not on this machine but the camera
08:12 schestowitz-TR; they are old photos anyway
08:12 Techrights-sec2; can they be transferred via an intermediary system?
08:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, but there is really nothing special about then
08:13 schestowitz-TR; *them
08:13 schestowitz-TR; I just popped them off the queue when I realised smtp had failed
08:13 Techrights-sec2; ok
08:13 Techrights-sec2; STMP fails a lot
08:17 Techrights-sec2; as mentioned many times, e-mail is not a surrogate for a file sharing system
08:17 Techrights-sec2; but when M$ killed Novell's Netware, they then followed up by attacking and
08:17 Techrights-sec2; destroying even the phrase file sharing such that no business can really do
08:17 Techrights-sec2; it any more, technically, and lack the political will to even try since it
08:17 Techrights-sec2; would mean an escape from M$
08:23 schestowitz-TR; draft
08:23 schestowitz-TR; rianne got the url working at the end, chocolatre was uppsercase, but should be lowercase
08:23 schestowitz-TR; she saw other recipes and is on holiday from work today, so will bake instead
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08:27 Techrights-sec2; excellent
08:27 Techrights-sec2; this time of year the coconut or lemon pies are quite good to have
08:27 Techrights-sec2; the lemon (meringue) is work though
08:27 Techrights-sec2; i found that if you start the mixer on low while beating the meringue the
08:27 Techrights-sec2; bubbles are smaller and thus the foam sturdier
08:28 schestowitz-TR; depending on the weather, we might cycle again, she has a percel to send
08:28 schestowitz-TR; but too early to tell
08:28 schestowitz-TR; the video processed overnight, I'll get is out of thee way, then do links
08:35 Techrights-sec2; bicycling is always good
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11:15 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/JRepin/status/1535558218667241474#m
11:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jure Repinc (Mastodon: @JRepin@mstdn.io) (@JRepin): "Also, if you are interested in some English texts on copyright/patents/privacy in Slovenia the articles by @schestowitz on Tech Rights are quite a good read: http://techrights.org/index.php?s=Slovenia+Slovenian+Slovene"|nitter.it
13:13 schestowitz-TR; topics needed ;-)
13:13 schestowitz-TR; see latest on wipo and debian
13:13 schestowitz-TR; getting interesting
13:14 Techrights-sec2; There were some Debian items in the links recently
13:14 schestowitz-TR; there is more today, you can see some background in techrights irc logs
13:20 Techrights-sec2; There were some Debian items in the links recently
13:20 Techrights-sec2; Google is misusing its web browser dominance to e=try to eliminate
13:20 Techrights-sec2; certain type of plug-ins like "ad-blockers". With Baker and Mozilla so damn
13:20 Techrights-sec2; dependent, intentionally, on Google's money Firefox will probably soon to
13:20 Techrights-sec2; ^toe
13:20 Techrights-sec2; that line
13:23 schestowitz-TR; regulag, (re gulga) I saw several articles to that effect in recent days, one sent by you
13:23 schestowitz-TR; I say to people, move to librewolf
13:23 schestowitz-TR; assuming they use firefox
13:23 schestowitz-TR; what worries me though is that out of the box librewolf subscribes VERY strictly to the CA cartel mindset
13:26 Techrights-sec2; retreating (by moving to librewolf) won't make a dent in the market share
13:26 Techrights-sec2; and allows them to continue to corner the browser market
13:28 schestowitz-TR; but what, like Gal said years ago, Chrome won [sic] and I think it's too late to expect a Firefox/Gecko rebound
13:28 schestowitz-TR; XUL is mostly dead and buried, thunderbird killed off many useful extensions that I use, and I think
13:28 schestowitz-TR; an approach like Gemini is worth investing in, e.g. by creating ore tools for it
13:28 schestowitz-TR; our www proxy, for example, shows you can focus on gemini and still present near pages to the web users
13:28 schestowitz-TR; with no extra effort
13:30 schestowitz-TR; yes for the most part FF is gone
13:30 schestowitz-TR; especially while Baker is still ostensibly at the helm
13:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, Gemini is quite valuable
13:30 schestowitz-TR; apropos your post from the other day: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/10/1242257
13:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | The Code: Story of GNU and Linux (2001) Complete Documentary - SoylentNews
13:30 Techrights-sec2; yes for the most part FF is gone
13:30 Techrights-sec2; especially while Baker is still ostensibly at the helm
13:30 Techrights-sec2; yes, Gemini is quite valuable
13:30 Techrights-sec2; apropos your post from the other day: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/10/1242257
13:31 schestowitz-TR; go to the official mozilal blog
13:31 schestowitz-TR; check the latest blog post
13:31 schestowitz-TR; this is what LF does too
13:31 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather not even say what I think
13:31 schestowitz-TR; same for the sysadmin we have, a brilliant, caring, very nice person... but I'd rather not say anything about other stuff
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13:39 Techrights-sec2; wtf? the mozilla blog is no longer about the WWW
13:41 schestowitz-TR; they did several blog posts like this the past week alone
13:41 schestowitz-TR; maybe they reckon their market share is so small already that they might as well use a niche's identity poilitics
13:41 Techrights-sec2; it just limits them further
13:43 schestowitz-TR; "Mozilla will be represented on the WHATWG Steering Group by Tantek elik going forward." https://annevankesteren.nl/2022/06/after-mozilla
13:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-annevankesteren.nl | After Mozilla Annes Blog
13:43 schestowitz-TR; see the departure post as well, a day earlier
13:43 schestowitz-TR; read between the lines
13:46 Techrights-sec2; Who / what is tantek elik?
13:50 schestowitz-TR; ytalk chomps the (I think) Turkish character
13:50 schestowitz-TR; Tantek was well known in the early blog era
13:50 schestowitz-TR; he was well regarded as Mr. Technorati
13:50 schestowitz-TR; where we would find other blog posts by topics etc.
13:50 schestowitz-TR; That Tantek ended up in Mozilla some years ago says a lot
13:50 schestowitz-TR; about his demise
13:50 schestowitz-TR; like Sternberg joining Mozilla
13:50 schestowitz-TR; he left years ago, but wolfssl isn't much betteer
13:50 schestowitz-TR; but I guess they needed a salary
13:50 schestowitz-TR; and they are given freedom and access through these orgs
13:50 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla lost many others too
13:50 schestowitz-TR; iirc, dennies schuberg (de) from joindiaspor also left
13:50 schestowitz-TR; Schubert
13:50 schestowitz-TR; *Dennis
13:51 schestowitz-TR; A lot of the Web is collapsing
13:51 schestowitz-TR; while few malicious compsnies pocket some ad revenue here and there
13:51 schestowitz-TR; or just weaponise the Web to advance some imperial agenda
13:51 schestowitz-TR; subsidised by debt or real produce, such as agriculture
13:51 schestowitz-TR; or oil/gaS (rUSSIA)
13:53 schestowitz-TR; names are VERY important to remember
13:53 schestowitz-TR; they are like ID or barcode for certain topicsa
13:53 schestowitz-TR; if you forget the name, you can struggle to find relevant idea or information
13:53 schestowitz-TR; like "what's his name" who said X
13:53 schestowitz-TR; "shit, I don't even know his first name... don't know what to search for... something "politics"... Russia.... TOO BROAD"
13:53 schestowitz-TR; Names are more unique
13:57 schestowitz-TR; it is not your fault when their namne is very common, but making files with lists of people can help
13:57 schestowitz-TR; about a decade ago I exported the list of contacts, inc. email (this was POSSIBLE), from linkedin
13:57 schestowitz-TR; Those included some old university friends
13:57 schestowitz-TR; the email addresses might perish, but the names aree important
13:57 schestowitz-TR; we did not have yearbooks for uni
14:01 schestowitz-TR; a lot of old names and old literature is obsolete
14:01 schestowitz-TR; but being able to resurrect hard-to-find old facts helps
14:01 schestowitz-TR; esp. when you are the only/last person left with such data, and can prove something
14:01 schestowitz-TR; or make a point
14:01 schestowitz-TR; technical debt is a thing that now impacts "e" libraries
14:01 schestowitz-TR; and almost nobody talks about it
14:01 schestowitz-TR; even physical libraries might perish completerly
14:01 schestowitz-TR; so unique book IDs and full detailed refs with page numbers and everything might be just that:
14:01 schestowitz-TR; title, page, author
14:01 schestowitz-TR; but no actual access to the material cited
14:02 schestowitz; https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/24194-never-memorize-something-that-you-can-look-up
14:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Albert Einstein: Never memorize something that you can look up.
14:05 schestowitz-TR; bbig rant: my dad is full of BS on Russia and China, spent an hour arguing politely on the phone today
14:05 schestowitz-TR; he seems to forget very easily some key historic events or is not properly familiar
14:05 schestowitz-TR; with them
14:05 schestowitz-TR; and he's bad at admitting he might be wrong
14:06 Techrights-sec2; probably he is unfamiliar with the historical facts
14:06 Techrights-sec2; digging one's heels in only makes the error worse and that's what social
14:06 Techrights-sec2; control media exacerbates terribly: people are fed shit at the first possible
14:06 Techrights-sec2; opportunity and they take it to heart and adopt it as their world view,
14:06 Techrights-sec2; then as facts come to light they refuse to update their position and worldview
14:08 schestowitz-TR; it used to be a problem before social control media
14:08 schestowitz-TR; when it was word of mouth
14:08 schestowitz-TR; but social control media spreads these thingss quadratically
14:08 schestowitz-TR; when broadcast TV you could more or less conmtain baseless hearsay
14:08 schestowitz-TR; and peple spoke to one person at a time
14:08 schestowitz-TR; i.e. it was linear, not quadratic
14:10 Techrights-sec2; yes but word of mouth was slower, with social control media, various
14:10 Techrights-sec2; interests can stake out a position very quickly in advance of any upcoming
14:10 Techrights-sec2; debate and effectively poison the well
14:10 Techrights-sec2; a big difference was that, at least in most countries, when there were
14:10 Techrights-sec2; only a few channels available only via broadcast television, there was
14:10 Techrights-sec2; great effort expended to stick to facts and only the facts and avoid
14:10 Techrights-sec2; opinions from anyone even those who were interviewed
14:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Wait! What happened to RSS?! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165889
14:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Wait! What happened to RSS?! | Tux Machines
14:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Wait! What happened to RSS?! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165889
14:35 schestowitz-TR; OSOR sued to have rss feeds
14:35 schestowitz-TR; when the drupal 'redesign' totally killed these off I asked givs (some dutch/.belgian name) what would happen
14:35 schestowitz-TR; he never got back to me
14:35 schestowitz-TR; mind the last sentence there about EU action
14:35 schestowitz-TR; the wwww as useless nonsense
14:35 schestowitz-TR; a bunch of "apps" ("platforms")
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14:36 schestowitz-TR; history shows that when something gets killed off it almost nnever comes back again
14:36 schestowitz-TR; it's not how it works
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14:36 schestowitz-TR; rss won't make a comeback/rivival
14:36 schestowitz-TR; revival
14:36 schestowitz-TR; tghere would be no mopmentum to it
14:36 schestowitz-TR; it's not "addictive" enough
14:37 schestowitz-TR; and RSS businesses won't get "angel investors"
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14:47 Techrights-sec2; too much of what's left ofthe net is not just about centralized service
14:47 Techrights-sec2; monopolies but also about farming addictive behaviors
14:47 Techrights-sec2; through intentionally designed addictive interfaces
14:50 schestowitz-TR; it is gamification of sorts
14:51 schestowitz-TR; some good posts in gemini lately
14:51 schestowitz-TR; about people's pov on the www
14:51 schestowitz-TR; they speak of it as outsiders or recovering ex addicts
14:51 schestowitz-TR; there was a time, not too long ago, when you could run a blog like techrunch and sell it for a long of money
14:51 schestowitz-TR; now you would just shut the same thins for financial reason
14:51 schestowitz-TR; like omalik/gigaom
14:51 schestowitz-TR; to name one example
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14:57 Techrights-sec2; yes the political dynamics regarding the control of public discourse have
14:57 Techrights-sec2; changed drastically since the metastasization of social control media
14:57 Techrights-sec2; througout society and through, especially, the shell that is left of
14:57 Techrights-sec2; journalism
14:57 Techrights-sec2; gamification is just a way of exploiting addictive behaviors through addictive interfaces and monetizing the farmed "behaviors"
14:57 Techrights-sec2; which people "emit" there
14:57 schestowitz-TR; "gamification" is the term used by the perpatrators themselves
14:57 schestowitz-TR; not me
14:57 schestowitz-TR; but I did experiuence game addiction when I was young
14:57 schestowitz-TR; the sense of progress or getting the upper handover other
14:57 schestowitz-TR; and starting to blieve this game you care about so much really matter
14:57 schestowitz-TR; or will received widespread recognitoon
14:57 schestowitz-TR; kind of like twitter
14:57 schestowitz-TR; to many people it is what tiktok is to me
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15:09 schestowitz-TR; a personl with many patents judges others by # of patents
15:09 schestowitz-TR; a person with many publications assumes the worth of a scholar is weighed sum of pub impact factor erc.
15:09 schestowitz-TR; a person who write code might assess the importance and size of projects/programs
15:09 schestowitz-TR; a person who thinks some silly corporate game matter to society (like Kim Dotcom) will get obese and lazy
15:09 schestowitz-TR; a person who spends 24/7 in FB thinks a popularity of a person is # of likes, "friends" etc.
15:09 schestowitz-TR; A saners person has balance
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15:12 schestowitz-TR; (note: good scholars do a lot of teaching too. Since 2005 many acaemic papers were ready by maybe a few dozens, past ther abstract, so a classrom
15:12 schestowitz-TR; listening for 40 minutes can have more impact than a paper taken 3 months to produce)
15:12 schestowitz-TR; that's partly the reaosn academia did not appeal to me
15:12 schestowitz-TR; it felt like a dying profession and dead end
15:13 schestowitz-TR; of course you also get the opccasional "fun" of marking up exams, a motoric, repetitive job
15:14 Techrights-sec2; since the Bologne Agreement that has been the case, that more or less was
15:14 Techrights-sec2; a death blow to the institution as it had existed, at least in Europe
15:14 schestowitz-TR; they have made some propaganda films like beatiuful mind about john nmash to entice or lure in some people into acadeia
15:14 schestowitz-TR; but that is a mostly mythical version of what it's like, even if you make it into the redbrick league in the us of a
15:17 Techrights-sec2; that was not academia, Nash was a street person venerated by MBAs because
15:17 Techrights-sec2; he told them what they wanted to promote at that particular moment,
15:17 Techrights-sec2; they also lie about him getting a Nobel Prize when in reality he was
15:17 Techrights-sec2; rewarded with a non-scientific bankster gimmick
15:17 Techrights-sec2; masquerading as an honor
15:18 schestowitz-TR; iirc, his dissertation was astyoundingly short
15:18 schestowitz-TR; like 30 pages?
15:18 schestowitz-TR; and they hail that as a "success" story
15:19 Techrights-sec2; yep and in some countries that level of superficiality has become the norm
15:19 Techrights-sec2; you read them and thing, good start but where is the substance and research?
15:19 Techrights-sec2; the banksters again hail that as a success story for the same reason
15:19 Techrights-sec2; the promote their own prize and pretend that it has any intellectual significance
15:20 schestowitz-TR; Turing Machine => drop dead, after we used you for ENIGMA
15:20 schestowitz-TR; Cold War PR => here, have this honour and Hollywood film
15:25 schestowitz-TR; reading comments on "non-recprocal licencing" and the scoring of that comment in particular, I see social contron media
15:25 schestowitz-TR; earlier today I linked to an articles about RSS
15:25 schestowitz-TR; I have put that in the FP of TM
15:26 schestowitz-TR; but towards the end he boasts that he reads 'hacker' 'news'
15:26 schestowitz-TR; I assume over RSS
15:26 schestowitz-TR; without bothering to think who curates it
15:26 schestowitz-TR; that's not rss feeds
15:26 schestowitz-TR; that's social control media or "platform"/centrlisation that ALSO has RSS feeds to rope people in
15:26 schestowitz-TR; in geminispace
15:26 schestowitz-TR; there would be a new page
15:26 schestowitz-TR; "Re: Licence"
15:26 schestowitz-TR; it would contain a proper post and then no score associated with it
15:26 schestowitz-TR; it stands out on its own
15:26 schestowitz-TR; no moderators
15:26 schestowitz-TR; and those who follow that capsule can read it, unadulterated
15:26 schestowitz-TR; that's how we did blogging in 2004
15:26 schestowitz-TR; sometimes with "trackbacks" or "pingbacks'
15:27 Techrights-sec2; correct
15:27 Techrights-sec2; that would be social control but via RSS as a novelty
15:27 schestowitz-TR; combative "ideas wars" might be OK
15:27 schestowitz-TR; piutting everyone in the same stage does not work
15:27 schestowitz-TR; the "moderator" is put there by the platform owner, e.g. TV conglemerate
15:27 Techrights-sec2; ack
15:27 schestowitz-TR; and so there's no room for everyoner to speak as equal
15:27 schestowitz-TR; there can also be mobbing/grouping
15:27 schestowitz-TR; which begets self-censorship
15:31 schestowitz-TR; I said in 2009 ish I'd stop leaving commetns in othwer people's blogs
15:31 schestowitz-TR; imposters became an issue
15:31 schestowitz-TR; and Groklaw's Pamela Jones had the same problem
15:31 schestowitz-TR; so she had said she would not comment
15:31 schestowitz-TR; and any comment is thus presumed imposter
15:31 schestowitz-TR; of course it's tragic what happened to all her work
15:31 schestowitz-TR; someone even pretended to be me and called people nazis
15:31 schestowitz-TR; or pretended to be one
15:31 schestowitz-TR; I recently worried about neonazis in our irc network pushing some limits
15:31 schestowitz-TR; but they self-vanished
15:31 schestowitz-TR; that puts some people off regardless
15:31 Techrights-sec2; yes she did
15:31 Techrights-sec2; or at least no comments under a recognized name
15:31 Techrights-sec2; too bad her site got only partially archived
15:31 Techrights-sec2; maybe the good parts which remain accessible there would be a good topic
15:31 Techrights-sec2; for a post some time
15:31 Techrights-sec2; yes
15:34 schestowitz-TR; the full site DB is still there somewhere
15:34 schestowitz-TR; frozen in time
15:34 schestowitz-TR; read-only
15:34 schestowitz-TR; but..
15:34 schestowitz-TR; I have not kept up with how geeklog is maintained for longterm "longin the tooth" users
15:34 schestowitz-TR; there is usually some tightly-knit community that hacks on the code to race past php version upgrades
15:34 schestowitz-TR; I did that a few times myself, even as recently as months ago
15:35 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it's just the same change in many lines
15:35 schestowitz-TR; extends the lifetime
15:35 schestowitz-TR; this Groklaw DB also contains ALL the "News Picks" (if that's what she called them, I do not remember anymore)
15:35 schestowitz-TR; there must be many thousands there, with her commentary added
15:35 schestowitz-TR; Techrighs reproduced some, but not all
15:35 Techrights-sec2; yes but abandoned more or less
15:35 Techrights-sec2; It's going on 10 years now since Groklaw shut down, and the SCO case is still
15:35 Techrights-sec2; festering
15:37 schestowitz-TR; we need to spent less time producing and more time strategising I think
15:37 schestowitz-TR; on both technical and editorial grounds
15:37 schestowitz-TR; sometimes the sites become irrelevant or sell out because they are too impulsive
15:37 schestowitz-TR; money, trends, clickbait etc.
15:37 schestowitz-TR; fsf is become "news desert" (sad to say)
15:37 schestowitz-TR; *becoming
15:38 Techrights-sec2; yes that has been a problem, and as a paying member I am rather annoyed that
15:38 Techrights-sec2; they are keeping members in the dark
15:38 schestowitz-TR; fig wrote about it about 3 years ago
15:38 schestowitz-TR; "member fodder" irc was his term
15:40 Techrights-sec2; yes they made a point of not benefiting from or to the membership
15:40 Techrights-sec2; I probably won't donate to them this year, especially if nothing improves
15:40 Techrights-sec2; on their part regarding membership news and active work by staff
15:40 schestowitz-TR; Liam Dawe told me (when you suggesting resorting to Patreon) that the one lesson he learned from his experience
15:40 schestowitz-TR; in GamingOnLinux is that you MUST offer SOME benefits to people who choose to pay
15:41 Techrights-sec2; yes there must be some benefits, not necessarily exclusive benefits but
15:41 Techrights-sec2; something better than just flushing the money away
15:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> The Harsh reality of living offgrid. gemini://atyh.net/post-2022-06-11-the-harsh-reality-of-living-offrid.gmi "The most difficult part of living offgrid has nothing to do with the work, equipment, and life habits required to live off grid."
15:55 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:06 schestowitz-TR; coming 2 weeks will be busy in epo as meetings approach (3 meetings)
16:06 schestowitz-TR; so will keep hands free of freesw topics unless there is a lot of unused time at hand
16:06 schestowitz-TR; our company's direction (at work) is challenged by me, but another person does the same
16:06 schestowitz-TR; they don't seem to grasp the concept of client confidence and skill retention
16:06 schestowitz-TR; they want OPTICS, instead
16:06 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:07 Techrights-sec2; important to collaborate with that other person then
16:08 schestowitz-TR; no, it would be problematic because she sleeps with someone who is close to the boss
16:08 schestowitz-TR; and is generally doing that for other motivations
16:08 schestowitz-TR; sorry, not "she"
16:08 schestowitz-TR; she goes by "they"
16:12 schestowitz-TR; (not taking the piss at all btw, perfectly factual; and used the wrong pronoun by accideent. nether technical nor suitably qualified)
16:12 Techrights-sec2; :/
16:13 schestowitz-TR; "our system is done, the database if fucked, but at least it is being looked at by one girl, two boys, and one nonbinary..."
16:13 schestowitz-TR; *down
16:13 schestowitz-TR; *is
16:14 Techrights-sec2; :/
16:14 schestowitz-TR; I guess it's a successful technique for distracting from and preventing actual
16:14 schestowitz-TR; work
16:14 Techrights-sec2; I guess it's a successful technique for distracting from and preventing actual
16:14 Techrights-sec2; work
16:15 schestowitz-TR; I think that is just a side effect
16:15 schestowitz-TR; there have been some altruistic intentions
16:15 schestowitz-TR; how they're being co-opted is not the fault of those who meant well
16:15 schestowitz-TR; and thus we should be careful todinstguish and perprly attribute
16:15 schestowitz-TR; it has been the same at the epo
16:17 schestowitz-TR; the net effect is Team A and team B are both shit
16:17 schestowitz-TR; and your colleagues are not as useful as they otherwise would be
16:17 schestowitz-TR; collectively, as a community of a company or as an org, you are worse off and weaker
16:19 schestowitz-TR; nobody knows everything
16:19 schestowitz-TR; posers and imposters can pretend to be everything
16:19 schestowitz-TR; but a dgree in "classics" or similar may mean you're not in the right domain or ballpark
16:19 schestowitz-TR; and that putsd a burden on the rest of the team
16:19 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:19 schestowitz-TR; I'm not a great sys admin or programmer
16:19 schestowitz-TR; I'm "OK"
16:19 schestowitz-TR; but I'm better at some other things
16:19 schestowitz-TR; so can make up for it
16:20 schestowitz-TR; rianne's programming skills are rather basic
16:20 schestowitz-TR; she did a cs degree
16:20 schestowitz-TR; but she is meticulous at work
16:21 schestowitz-TR; and has access to good equipment and to me
16:21 schestowitz-TR; so I think some colleagues are a little intimidated
16:21 schestowitz-TR; and that leads to cat fights
16:22 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:22 Techrights-sec2; cat fights are all too common and, sadly, part of a lot of human nature
16:22 Techrights-sec2; especially women. men tend to have conflicts but often settle into
16:22 Techrights-sec2; some stable situation begrudgingly or otherwise rather quickly at least until
16:22 Techrights-sec2; something major changes to affect the dynamics
16:23 schestowitz-TR; right, that suitably describes some of the conflicting (on technical matters) views 3 of us
16:23 schestowitz-TR; have, e.g. ansible vs puppet or shitware vs freesw
16:23 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:25 schestowitz-TR; I'm relatively easy to work with, I think, that's why I'm there 11.5 years (could leave many times)
16:25 schestowitz-TR; and TM and TM age OK, inc. the community (even those who ragequit often come back later)
16:25 schestowitz-TR; BTW, TM depends a lot on RSS
16:26 schestowitz-TR; if the RSS web culture dies, both TR and TM might suffer
16:26 schestowitz-TR; but there is no simple solution to that, other than diversifying a bit
16:26 schestowitz-TR; "Social media" or "SEO" are not valid options
16:26 schestowitz-TR; those are controlled by very large companies
16:26 schestowitz-TR; with whims of shareholders
16:26 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:26 Techrights-sec2; social control media works actively against software freedom, note
16:26 Techrights-sec2; the agenda and owners of reddit as one example
16:27 schestowitz-TR; I prefer to call it Internet freedom
16:27 schestowitz-TR; because, like swpats, it affects both us the freesw community and the rest of the technical folks
16:27 schestowitz-TR; with whom we need an alliance on certain matters, hecen ffii
16:27 schestowitz-TR; *hence
16:28 Techrights-sec2; FFII also seems a bit quiet of late
16:28 Techrights-sec2; last blog post in 2021 and invisible in the search engine results
16:30 schestowitz-TR; pedants' point: never say "Web freedom"; that's a paradox in 2022 or the past 10 years
16:30 schestowitz-TR; if not 20+ years
16:30 schestowitz-TR; gulag does not like ffii ;-)
16:30 schestowitz-TR; zoobab told me that his press releases show up first as techrights, before ffii
16:30 schestowitz-TR; not my fault
16:30 schestowitz-TR; that may change in the future
16:30 schestowitz-TR; just some knobhead at gulag seeing we don't fancy "gulag" and pulling a knob to derank us
16:30 schestowitz-TR; we're of no value to "alphabet agency" shareholders anyway
16:30 schestowitz-TR; not anymore
16:31 Techrights-sec2; no gulag hates and the others
16:33 schestowitz-TR; gulag noise: we syndicate microsoft.com as a NEWS site
16:33 schestowitz-TR; also "Microsoft on te Issues" (lobbying blog)
16:33 schestowitz-TR; but not techrights, ffii etc.
16:33 schestowitz-TR; mondaq/lexology are OK becayse they are "professional"
16:33 schestowitz-TR; they take BRIBES to push lies
16:33 schestowitz-TR; so they have a businessModel(R)
16:33 schestowitz-TR; hence Professional(TM)
16:34 Techrights-sec2; sadly bribes are a business plan
16:36 schestowitz-TR; larabel and I cheered him being enlisted in Gulag Noise years ago
16:36 schestowitz-TR; to me, those are just more cruft in my rss feeds now
16:36 schestowitz-TR; but sometimes I use them to follow through to originals, such as patchsets
16:40 schestowitz-TR; (i don't envy michael, we've spoken since the BN days. we both work like horses around the clock to produce stories
16:40 schestowitz-TR; but the relationship with vendors is like "doping"... and it'll become a major liability down the line as readers leave and sponsors
16:40 schestowitz-TR; are companies, not people)
16:40 schestowitz-TR; fossforce killed itself
16:40 schestowitz-TR; check date of last story
16:40 schestowitz-TR; it tries to come back, shills some corporarte bullshit
16:40 schestowitz-TR; then coredumps
16:40 schestowitz-TR; too focused on trying to raise money, one war or the other
16:40 schestowitz-TR; years ago christine and I were close, blasted LF
16:40 schestowitz-TR; now the site is a shrine to LF
16:40 schestowitz-TR; like Putin invaded Ukraine and planted a flag in it
16:41 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:41 Techrights-sec2; yes
16:41 Techrights-sec2; she sold out
16:41 Techrights-sec2; probably had to
16:41 Techrights-sec2; for economic reasons
16:43 schestowitz-TR; based on photos poasted a decade ago of her car windows getting smashed by a brick, it's very "hand-to-mouth"
16:44 Techrights-sec2; most in the US are in that situation and the gutting of their savings in 2008
16:44 Techrights-sec2; did not advance the standard of living to put it mildly
16:44 schestowitz-TR; plus medical bills and partented prescription drugs
16:44 schestowitz-TR; the other day I read that in 2020 it became a $500 BILLION industry
16:44 schestowitz-TR; those repeat drugs
16:44 schestowitz-TR; they shoulds be generic really
16:44 schestowitz-TR; but politicians take bribes and with Microsoft Vidal the patents will stay
16:44 schestowitz-TR; something "property"
16:45 Techrights-sec2; still say-for-pay is awfully degrading
16:45 Techrights-sec2; yes and generics are usually unavailable or otherwise blocked
16:47 schestowitz-TR; 'coz "counterfeit"
16:47 schestowitz-TR; or maybe if you know someone in India and can pray it gets through customs
16:47 schestowitz-TR; the "counterfeit"
16:47 schestowitz-TR; police
16:47 schestowitz-TR; protecting you from drugs... that you can afford and would extend your life
16:47 schestowitz-TR; the "war on (legal) drugs"
16:48 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:48 Techrights-sec2; war on inexpensive or effective drugs
16:52 schestowitz-TR; s/or/and/
16:52 schestowitz-TR; through the two aren't necessarily coming in conjuction
16:52 schestowitz-TR; story of relevance: my mother had a prescirbed drug
16:52 schestowitz-TR; and iirc when the patent thing kicked in they stopped making it available
16:52 schestowitz-TR; instead pushing only a more expensive one, which ALSO was worse for her
16:52 schestowitz-TR; caused all sorts of issues
16:52 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:52 schestowitz-TR; so the more expensive was in fact worse
16:52 schestowitz-TR; and impose (now) if the previous one, which worked well, got blocked
16:52 schestowitz-TR; purely for business reasons
16:52 schestowitz-TR; thank you for the innovation, Antonio CamPoonios
16:52 schestowitz-TR; he doesn't have to worry about the price of medication
16:52 schestowitz-TR; he just takes REAL drugs
16:52 schestowitz-TR; the F* good ones
16:52 schestowitz-TR; s/impose/imports of the previous one
16:52 schestowitz-TR; she had to contact people with connections in India
16:52 schestowitz-TR; and was looking on the Web
16:53 schestowitz-TR; they are torturing people for profit
16:53 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Honestly speaking I never bothered about any of the Perl releases before. But Perl v5.36 is very special and close to me." https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/get-started-with-perl-v536/
16:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-theweeklychallenge.org | Get started with Perl v5.36
16:55 schestowitz-TR; based on the timestem, 8:42pm just now, Mo Anwar, who wrote this, is no longer in London but somewhere like India?
16:55 schestowitz-TR; He wrote many posts about his depression and sobbing
16:55 Techrights-sec2; ack
16:55 Techrights-sec2; I had not seen those
17:08 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft propagandist, liar, and shill Rob Enderle: "US Tech Market Leadership at a Crossroads" ... wait, what? What tech leadership? Almost EVERYTHING is made in China ALREADY.
17:12 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This market was not known as Facebook and it wasn't headed by Mark Zuckerberg, hence "bad" https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/08/us_feds_raid_dark_web/
17:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Feds raid dark web market where 24 Americans' data was sold The Register
17:12 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Good" spying versus "Bad" information sharing https://miro.medium.com/max/720/1*flkRZlw79d7EYWZkRltD0A.jpeg
17:12 schestowitz-TR; apropos pocock on privacy versus debian/fsfe on 'privacy'
22:02 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1534792966681894914#m
22:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC: 2/3 majority vote requirement was not followed (art3a Const) in Slovenia? 48 out of 90? https://www.bristowsupc.com/news/slovenia-passes-law-on-ratification-of-the-upc-agreement/"|nitter.it
22:02 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1535535606301921280#m
22:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "@piratskastranka do you have someone who could check?"|nitter.it
22:03 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/JRepin/status/1535556433231716352#m
22:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jure Repinc (Mastodon: @JRepin@mstdn.io) (@JRepin): "Unfortunately it's true :( The correct link for parliamentary voting documents (in Slovenian) related to this agreement is: http://www.dz-rs.si/wps/portal/Home/zakonodaja/izbran/!ut/p/z1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfIjo8zivSy9Hb283Q0N3E3dLQwCQ7z9g7w8nAwsnMz1w9EUGAWZGgS6GDn5BhsYGwQHG-pHEaPfAAdwNCBOPx4FUfiNL8gNDQ11VFQEAAXcoa4!/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?uid=C1257A70003EE6A1C1258 ...
22:03 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/JRepin/status/1535558218667241474#m
22:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Jure Repinc (Mastodon: @JRepin@mstdn.io) (@JRepin): "Also, if you are interested in some English texts on copyright/patents/privacy in Slovenia the articles by @schestowitz on Tech Rights are quite a good read: http://techrights.org/index.php?s=Slovenia+Slovenian+Slovene"|nitter.it
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