Howdy ~detritus, computers are first and foremost this: a time sink!

~bartender? That refill jar is empty again :-)

> fancy GUIs

are a complete mystery to me. I have ranted about this elsewhere. I'm not alone, here's one about scroll bars

gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2024-03-19_How_hard_is_a_scroll_bar_.gmi

IFFF you miss the shell, well, possibly you can do away with the fancy GUI by using a tiling window manager, for example i3 or its wayland sibling sway. I did start with xmonad fully expecting it to make me angry within half an hour or so. But no, a week later I realized, I'm still using this thing :) I changed to i3 due to my lack of Haskell foo. I never looked back to fvwm2 or Xfce. I can still start mouse driven things like KiCAD or gimp and give them a full screen. So if you feel adventurous, you might want to try this. Have fun!

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~detritus wrote:

Yeah I generally use tiling wms, well, I used to, for a while I used i3 and hebstluftwm, but lately I just slap stumpwm and use a single application any time, I use stumpwm because lisp is my favorite language but I really haven't cared to figure it out lol.

Godot is less misterious now, but I realized it's a bit too complex for what I want. I'm looking for something far simpler than godot.