Frustrated at Programmers

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Hello everyone,

I am back from a much needed respite but with some complaining, meh. I went in search of a gemtext to html conversion tool and all I found was some ultimate geek fest of numbers and other assorted shit that might as well be a foreign language not of this planet. Whatever happened to programs that consisted of clicking on download button and off it went, 2 minutes tops and you had a copy of the program you needed.

Nowadays, you need a masters degree in computer languages just to download one lousy program. I build websites, I am not familiar with any programming languages. I wish you programmers get it in your heads that the world does not revolve around all that gibberish on git hub.

Can you lot do those of us who are programming language illiterates a favor and have two version of your programs:

1. for your fellow programmers who get hot and bothered for all that programming shite

2. and the same version but more simpler for the illiterates among us

Thank you

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~ew wrote (thread):

Hey ~rosie88,

good to read you again. I was a little afraid you took the sideways 8 hallway and didn't find your way back :-)

Programming.

Well, programming imho is a kind of magic, ranging from colorful to black ... Programs come in stages of life:

0. A one-line hack which will work only now, only here, and only because I happen to know, what I do. None of this might be true in 10 minutes from now.

1. A script/program, which will work for me repeatedly. It requires detailed knowledge of how and where to run it, what assumptions are coded in, the order of options or arguments might be following some hidden logic. There is no documentation, because the code is.

2. A script/program, which works for me any time. It still harbors assumptions, but "--help" will spit out enough documentation, that I can forget about the details.

3. A script/program, which works for others. It still harbors assumptions, but it will go to some length to check all those things: are the other programs this script relies on installed? Are all the things that this script expects actually existing and of the correct type? Does the content of whatever needs to be used, make any sense? No? Bail out on the slightest error. Actually printing out a /useful/ error message is another art, which cannot be mastered fully, imho. Documentation actually is written, and I have tried to explain it to the novice (and probably failed, because I cannot temporarily un-know my knowledge).

Stage 2 might be useful for my colleagues. Stage 3 might be useful to more people.

Now there are options:

4a. Make the program work 24x7 --- another whole universe of funny, delicate, hidden, subtle details will show up at my desk. Some of them are invisible. Some of them will speak a language unknown. Most of them will speak in confusing riddles.

4b. Make the program really fast, so you can serve like 1000s of request in a few seconds. The funny mix of details will change.

4c. Make the program work on tiny machines.

4d. Other. Like add a GUI, or add translations to other languages, scripts, direction of writing/reading ...

So, depending on which stage the program is that you happen to try, your experience will range from awful to surprisingly pleasant. The thing is, neither you nor the author knows exactly the state of the program.

I could give you my gem2html shell script, it's in stage 2[a]. You probably don't want this. By the way, I have written only one program up to stage 3 and shared it in public. I'm not aware that anyone else is using it, although I do use it daily.

Well. Never mind. ~fish-fingerer says the same in less words, it seems.

Welcome back!

Cheers,

~ew

[a] gem2html.sh

~fish-fingerer wrote:

~pink2ds wrote (thread):

Hi. You can use Midnight Pub to do this.

Go to "Manage site"

Upload a gemtext file from your computer.

If you don't like to write the files on your computer and would prefer to write it in the web page, you can. Just hit "New page" and remember to type in a file name and then type in or paste in your gem text.

Either way, then click on the gemtext file's name. Now you have a HTML version of it. You can save that page to your computer if you wish.

Good luck♥

~axionfield wrote (thread):

I suspect you're talking about some open source you've found somewhere on the internet. I kind of write some myself. And when I think they may benefit to other people, I share them. Remember that these tools are often built to address one particular problem for a single guy in a particular context. And this guy nicely shares them with the world, for free in case they could help someone else.

But they owe you nothing.