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Posted by Roy Schestowitz on Jul 27, 2023


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There's more than one reason that people used (or use) CentOS


↺ There's more than one reason that people used (or use) CentOS


> The news of the time interval is that Red Hat has stopped making Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code generally available, although just as with the switch to 'CentOS Stream' from CentOS their article doesn't put it that way. This created difficulties for at least two CentOS replacement distributions, forcing AlmaLinux to change what they are. I don't have much to say on this specific topic, but it has sparked a series of exchanges about, for example, the history of RHEL rebuilds (via). As it happens, I have some views on why people would want to use a free 'clone' (rebuild) of RHEL, as CentOS was before it became CentOS Stream, partly based on personal experience.


> Here are some major reasons people could want or need CentOS, at least back in the era of CentOS, before CentOS Stream became your only option from RHEL 8 onward: [...]



RHEL Response Discussed by SFC Conference's Panel - Including a New Enterprise Linux Standard


↺ RHEL Response Discussed by SFC Conference's Panel - Including a New Enterprise Linux Standard


> "Red Hat themselves did not reply to our repeated requests to join us on this panel... SUSE was also invited but let us know they were unable to send someone on short notice to Portland for the panel."


> One interesting audience question for the panel came from Karsten Wade, a one-time Red Hat senior community architect who left Red Hat in April after 21 years, but said he was "responsible for bringing the CentOS team onboard to Red Hat." Wade argued that CentOS "was always doing a clean rebuild from source RPMS of their own..." So "isn't all of this thunder doing Red Hat's job for them, of trying to get everyone to say, 'This thing is not the equivalent to RHEL.'"


> In response Jeremy Alison made a good point. "None of us here are the arbiters of whether it's good enough of a rebuild of Red Hat Linux. The customers are the arbiters." But this led to an audience member asking a very forward-looking question: what are the chances the community could adopt a new (and open) enterprise Linux standard that distributions could follow. AlmaLinux's Vasquez replied, "Chances are real high... I think everyone sees that as the obvious answer. I think that's the obvious next step. I'll leave it at that." And Oracle's Wright added "to the extent that the market asks us to standardize? We're all responsive."



GUADEC


↺ GUADEC


> GUADEC 2023 is underway in Riga. It’s great to see people face to face after a long time. Kicked off the first day with an ADHD trip of a talk. Rather than putting links in my slides, where nobody has the chance of actually follow, I’ve assembled them here. Enjoy!




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