●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, October 31, 2020 ●● ● Oct 31 [00:28] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [00:41] schestowitz > So another GNU -> Github move then. [00:41] schestowitz > [00:41] schestowitz > I do the same thing with Python (preferably PyPy) though not as a [00:41] schestowitz > serious effort to redo all local bash scripts. In fact when a task with [00:41] schestowitz > bash (or ksh) is simple enough, I just use that. [00:41] schestowitz > [00:41] schestowitz > Plus the way software is developed these days, it's only going hasten [00:41] schestowitz > some "stop using Perl, use Raku instead" bullshit a la Python 3, so fuck [00:41] schestowitz > Raku, for as long as possible. I'm tired of developers telling me what [00:41] schestowitz > tools to use. If I wanted developers to tell me what tools to use, I'd [00:41] schestowitz > be using Windows or a Mac. [00:42] schestowitz Context: [00:42] schestowitz > FORGOT THIS [00:42] schestowitz > vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx [00:42] schestowitz > I've been moving my bash scripts to Raku recently. It's been saving me [00:42] schestowitz > a lot of time. Are you lot aware of the language? [00:42] schestowitz > Oct 29 11:25 [00:42] schestowitz > 29 11:25:40> [00:42] schestowitz > vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx [00:42] schestowitz > It's very Bash-like so it feels like a natural extension. 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Mandy demanded to stay another night for some reason and got angry when I said I wanted to stay at the new place. Don't understand. I'll just get things finished up tomorrow I guess. [07:34] schestowitz if it don't pay extra for the extra night, then fine [07:34] schestowitz otherwise waste of money when you already pay for somewhere else that you can move into [07:51] *sb0_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 31 [08:04] *oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:04] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [08:07] schestowitz groklaw as a whole is now down :/ http://www.groklaw.net/ [08:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.groklaw.net/ ) [08:08] schestowitz it's a good thing we got the deposition videos out of there [08:08] schestowitz in case they don't repair this [08:54] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux App Touchgg v2.0.2 Released With Touchscreen Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143860 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79b61baf-161c-4347-b94f-dc2832fea402] [08:54] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:55] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [08:56] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143859 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e7c9bf0a-cca3-4166-88b5-6f2fd3ab19bb] ● Oct 31 [09:04] *inky (~norayr@5.77.208.34) has joined #techrights [09:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:14] *vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx (5c14e751@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx schestowitz: your email was sent unencrypted btw. [09:14] schestowitz Another lockdown here would mean more time to write in Techrights... [09:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Don't know if you noticed [09:15] schestowitz vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: oh, that must be thunderbird being dumb [09:15] schestowitz after they dumped enigmail [09:15] schestowitz (which would not allow that) [09:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I binned it as soon as I read it [09:16] schestowitz let me try again [09:16] schestowitz mozilla -1 [09:17] schestowitz wtf, indeed it was not encrypted [09:18] schestowitz don't ask me why the new thunderbird system decided not to encrypt it by default... [09:19] schestowitz but I can make a guess [09:19] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Mozilla seriously going down the drain [09:20] schestowitz the settings of the message I replied to [09:20] schestowitz where the encrypted part was an attachment [09:21] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I got it encrypted, this time. [09:22] schestowitz Mozilla detected it as not needing crypto [09:22] schestowitz I suppose because the message replies to isn't considered as such [09:22] schestowitz I can reproduce this issue [09:23] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Btw, re: accessing the file I sent you. You can just ask `file(1)` for what kind of file you're dealing with. [09:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx So even if the filename gets mangled (for whatever reason), `file(1)` should tell you what needs doing [09:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx So I sent you a zipped archive that was encrypted [09:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx so decrypt->decompress->un-archinve [09:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx archive* [09:25] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx `.tar.xz.gpg` [09:29] schestowitz seems like many layers [09:29] schestowitz where only one actually protects from snooping [09:29] schestowitz and the email has its contents not encrypted, the enclosing envelope anyway [09:31] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Saves bandwidth [09:31] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I communicate with quite a few people that live in countries where bandwidth is an issue so I do it out of force of habit sometimes [09:32] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx For stuff like this I just use my Gmail account. The contents are the only thing I bother guarding. For more sensitive stuff I use my own email server. [09:33] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:35] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Re: the whole access thing. Take your time. I was just giving notice in advance before I forget about it. [09:35] schestowitz I got some suggestion already [09:35] schestowitz but I need a nap [09:35] schestowitz only had 2 hours [09:36] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I went to bed early last night [09:36] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Have a good one [09:36] schestowitz I'll be back soon [09:36] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I'm around [09:36] schestowitz I got two more things to publish in the meantime [09:38] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:38] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:39] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Oct 31 [10:42] *obarun has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:43] *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights [10:51] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:51] *inky (~norayr@5.77.208.34) has joined #techrights [10:53] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [10:53] *rianne has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:57] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Oct 31 [11:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:01] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:02] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:07] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:11] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:16] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:17] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:29] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:34] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:42] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I've finished doing some evaluations with Bittorrent. I'm ditching it for IPFS instead. [11:42] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Bittorrent is too clanky. The magnet links use SHA1 which is broken. There are loads of other issues as well. And traffic shaping issues with ISPs [11:43] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Another issue with Bittorrent is that the documentation is not even passable. [11:44] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Each client does whatever the hell it wants. [11:44] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Too much bloat [11:47] brendyyn v2 uses sha256 i think [11:49] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Even then. That's just one problem [11:49] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Out of many [11:50] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:51] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:51] brendyyn does ipfs still copy all files into a block cache? [11:51] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Not sure [11:51] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Been a while since I tinkered with it [11:52] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I just remember it being easy to set up and use. I just wrote a Dockerfile and had it running in minutes. [11:52] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I see they have their own container images now too [11:53] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:53] brendyyn yeah. i wonder how good the performance is now. i tried testing making a torrent with millions of smallish files and it was fast. looked like it was going to take over an hour to finish adding them [11:53] brendyyn for ipfs [11:54] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx My use case is a lot smaller. I'm not going to be passing the 100 file mark any time soon [11:54] brendyyn i notice libgen.rs has ipfs links for books now, so thats cool [11:54] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx :) [11:54] brendyyn they all downloaded fast too, via the gateway [11:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:54] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That was a battle. I'm glad people are appreciating it [11:54] brendyyn battle? [11:55] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Yep. There was a lot of resistance against that decision, initially. [11:55] brendyyn why? are they phasing out bittorrent or is it gone already? [11:56] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Not sure on that. Would have to ask [11:58] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Certain someone spent a lot of time teaching people about containers. :) ● Oct 31 [12:01] brendyyn im just living life on Guix. who needs no docker [12:02] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Look up KnowlBookshelf [12:04] brendyyn just says coming soon [12:04] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx https://gitlab.com/lucidhack/knowl [12:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lucidhack / Knowl Bookshelf GitLab [12:05] brendyyn i want a smart tool that cleans up all the metadata automatically [12:05] brendyyn and i dont mean cleaning it up by fiddling around wasting lots of time [12:09] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I just looked up Guix [12:09] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I might actually migrate to this [12:09] *oarion7 (~anonymous@unaffiliated/oarion7) has joined #techrights [12:10] brendyyn thought you might have known about it [12:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I don't really look into userland very much [12:11] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I have a window manager, a text editor, and a browser. And that's pretty much my workflow. [12:11] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx So it looks identical on FreeBSD, GNU/Linux distros, etc. [12:11] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Oh and Git [12:12] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's so portable it even works across all the terminal emulators [12:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Because I do everything under tmux in that space [12:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I don't even need to start X half the time. Can just work on basic ttys with tmux [12:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I use Git submodules for all the system-specific stuff. And those submodules get pulled into a supermodule for each system (say Debian, for example). And I have a few supermodules. Currently, I have 2 funcitonal supermodules. 1 for FreeBSD and 1 for Debian. [12:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Those supermodules get synced to an external HDD via USB3 [12:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx with rsync [12:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx So I can get up and running on pretty much any AMD64 machine in a few minutes. [12:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx With containers these days, my config doesn't even need many files in it. [12:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's just the Jails vs Namespaces that breaks portability. Because BSD does OS-level virtualisation a bit different from Linux. [12:19] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And I've written loads of Git hooks to make sure I don't forget things. [12:22] brendyyn it should be easy enough for you to get guix running on your current distro, and then build your own os definition. then you can instatiate it in a virtual machine before installing it [12:22] *psydread2 (~psydread@83-86-167-92.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [12:23] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It looks like they have an OS of their own [12:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I have a spare SSD [12:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I can just try their OS on my spare [12:24] brendyyn It's a GNU/Linux distro essentially [12:25] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Looks like they've got Sway and Wayland as the default. Might just give it a try since I've got the time now. [12:25] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I use X with AwesomeWM atm [12:25] brendyyn there is no default. its more like Arch where you can choose what bits you want to put together [12:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Ah okay [12:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I was just looking at the front page of their website [12:26] brendyyn Have you heard of Nix? [12:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I have heard of it. I forgot what it is. [12:27] brendyyn ok nevermind then [12:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Re: Guix. Looks like they use Guile. That's definitely something I'm interested in as well. [12:28] brendyyn It's hard to summaries what Guix is, because its a lot of things all in one project [12:28] brendyyn package manager, distro build using that, a init daemon, various tools built on it [12:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Looks like the future to me [12:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx GNU/Linux distros have been going down the dumbdumb avenue, in the last few years. [12:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I think FreeBSD manages to get the balance between appealing to experienced hackers as well as noobs. [12:31] brendyyn i really hope guix can gather a larger user base and really make an impact. it still needs more packaging effort. currently there is around 15k packages, compared to debians 60k+ [12:32] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:33] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I'll give Guix a go on Monday. [12:34] brendyyn you can always test out the installer for the up coming release https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-10/msg00095.html [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Call for 1.2 installer testing. [12:35] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Thanks for the link. [12:37] brendyyn anyway im tired. going to sleep. you can jump in #guix when you try it and ill help if im there. itd suck if you experience some bug and gave up on joining the community [12:38] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Thanks for the help. I'll keep that in mind. :) [12:39] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Have a good night! [12:42] *brendyyn has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:48] *psydread2 has quit (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!) ● Oct 31 [13:14] *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:14] *gde34 (~gde333@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [13:14] *zoobab has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:14] *zoobab (zoobab@5.226.149.169) has joined #techrights [13:16] schestowitz vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: a message to you re raku [13:17] schestowitz re raku [13:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Hmm? [13:17] schestowitz in the upcoming article [13:17] schestowitz and also: [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > So another GNU -> Github move then. [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > I do the same thing with Python (preferably PyPy) though not as a [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > serious effort to redo all local bash scripts. In fact when a task with [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > bash (or ksh) is simple enough, I just use that. [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > Plus the way software is developed these days, it's only going hasten [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > some "stop using Perl, use Raku instead" bullshit a la Python 3, so fuck [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > Raku, for as long as possible. I'm tired of developers telling me what [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > tools to use. If I wanted developers to tell me what tools to use, I'd [13:17] schestowitz [00:41] > be using Windows or a Mac. [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] Context: [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > FORGOT THIS [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > I've been moving my bash scripts to Raku recently. It's been saving me [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > a lot of time. Are you lot aware of the language? [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > Oct 29 11:25 [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > > 29 11:25:40> [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx [13:17] schestowitz [00:42] > It's very Bash-like so it feels like a natural extension. [13:17] schestowitz (from someone who reads IRC through daily logs) [13:18] schestowitz The article I edit at this moment has: "Systemd is developed on GitHub as well, as is Raku, as is NPM, as is Python." [13:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You can get tarballs of the source from the Rakudo website though [13:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx But I get your point [13:20] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Breaking news [13:20] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Sean Connery passed away [13:24] schestowitz hmm. [13:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Going to have to rewatch the old Bond films with my pop now. [13:30] schestowitz I'm sure many others will too [13:31] schestowitz with talks about impending full lockdown and all [13:31] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Great [13:31] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Another one [13:36] *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:39] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Users Have Nowhere to Go http://techrights.org/2020/10/31/useds/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/d551e94f-bdc5-440d-95f6-5d5c12451101] [13:40] schestowitz vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: "For xmas' [13:40] schestowitz the spin is, to be "free" in xmas we have to be locked down for a month again [13:40] schestowitz shopkeepers out of work again [13:41] schestowitz gee, back in summer he said it'd be all back to normal by now [13:41] schestowitz only to be corrected by the health minister [13:41] schestowitz vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: the article that mentions that rust passage is now live @ http://techrights.org/2020/10/31/useds/ [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Users Have Nowhere to Go | Techrights [13:41] schestowitz also mentions gemini and gopher [13:42] schestowitz which I suppose is where we might go [13:42] schestowitz you have your expertise with other protocols [13:42] schestowitz when I use hyperlinks now I'm thinking of the text version [13:42] schestowitz and make sure it reads OK even without those links being clickable [13:42] schestowitz so as to make it more self-contained [13:44] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx This is why I'm against both the terms "Free Software" and "Open Source" [13:44] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx They've ambiguous [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I just specify the license [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx They're* [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx GPLv3 [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx AGPLv3 [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx BSD 3-clause [13:45] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx etc etc [13:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I feel like a lot of this drama could be avoided if people just made it normal to use the exact license in discourse [13:47] schestowitz Re: RMS Lessig Video 2001 San Francisco [13:47] schestowitz > Hi. [13:47] schestowitz > [13:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Now you have people hijacking the original intent [13:47] schestowitz > This took longer than expected to post as I had to retrieve video from old backup machine. [13:47] schestowitz > I have 3 videos of archive interest. Not sure any of these videos interest you, but I'm glad at least 1 held up so far on my host. [13:47] schestowitz > [13:47] schestowitz > The first is posted at: [13:47] schestowitz > [13:47] schestowitz > https://dmcasucks.com/ [13:47] schestowitz > https://dmcasucks.com/rmslessig.mp4 [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmcasucks.com | 20 Years Under the DMCA Copyfighter: A look into life on the front lines of the DMCA [13:47] schestowitz > [13:47] schestowitz > will update with others. [13:47] schestowitz > [13:47] schestowitz > What I did was use vlc to compress the video - I believe the quality is similar. [13:47] schestowitz > So, the originals are something like 11Gb but after conversion using vlc, 1.2Gb (ish). [13:47] schestowitz Thanks, I am going to take a look. [13:48] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:48] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I got my IPFS node working [13:48] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@199.19.78.19) has joined #techrights [13:48] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [13:49] smnthermes https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/06/fish-climb/ [13:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quoteinvestigator.com | Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid Quote Investigator [13:49] smnthermes Quote falsely credited to Einstein [13:52] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx What's the correct source? ● Oct 31 [14:06] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You know. Now that I think about it. IPFS is actually pretty damn good for development as well [14:06] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx People can just pin their Git repo on IPFS [14:07] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx schestowitz: you should try IPFS out. Only takes a minute to set it up. [14:07] schestowitz I lack experience [14:07] schestowitz which is why it's good to have people help out [14:07] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx http://blog.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/1-run-ipfs-on-docker/ [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to blog.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://blog.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/1-run-ipfs-on-docker/ ) [14:07] schestowitz I could learn, it's just a daemon then? [14:07] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Ye [14:08] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And you can get a browser plugin [14:08] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx For the UI [14:08] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ipfs-companion/ [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | IPFS Companion Get this Extension for Firefox (en-US) [14:08] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Just read the first block of that blog post. Install the browser addon. [14:09] schestowitz I cannot even open that page [14:09] schestowitz i that really http [14:09] schestowitz ? [14:09] schestowitz even the bot had it "refused" [14:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Oh shit [14:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I sent the wrong link [14:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Sorry [14:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx hold on xD [14:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx https://blog.ipfs.io/1-run-ipfs-on-docker/ [14:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ipfs.io | Run IPFS in a Docker container [14:11] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's because that blog post is on IPFS and I had a node running. So it immediately used my "localhost" to grab it because that was the closest source. [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/31/rms-lessig-video-2001-san-francisco/ [14:11] schestowitz part 2 and 3 coming? [14:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Video Release by Marcia K. Wilbur: Richard Stallman (RMS) and Larry Lessig | Techrights [14:12] schestowitz ok, so it uses those high numbered ports [14:12] schestowitz and protocols [14:12] schestowitz and can serve alongside the existing stuff [14:12] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Yeah. No port forwarding required [14:12] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx On your router [14:13] schestowitz what does it serve? any object? [14:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Yep [14:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Any file [14:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Give me a sec [14:13] schestowitz maybe we can set up a container for you, which can sort out some other unspeakable requirement [14:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I just want you to grab a file from me [14:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx In the addon, go to "Files->Import->From IPFS" [14:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And past the following hash: QmNWYWSE4jjditfbLPHJXqfnhyAJ1KR3uC2APsxsWGc9Jh [14:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's just a simple text file with 1 line of text [14:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Should say "Arbitrary data." [14:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx All you have to do to host a file on your node is just "pin" that file. [14:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That stops the garbage collector from cleaning it up [14:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's all in a container so it's not scooping things from other directories on your system [14:18] schestowitz I can't even find where to open this FF extension from [14:18] schestowitz I even restarted FF, just in case [14:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's on the top right [14:18] schestowitz I tried [14:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Next to the search bar [14:18] schestowitz let me try again [14:18] scientes schestowitz, I am having trouble getting the context of this video [14:18] schestowitz scientes: there's none in particular [14:19] scientes they are talking about some law [14:19] schestowitz but dmca-related [14:19] scientes ahh DMCA [14:19] scientes well then RMS's "garbage in, garbage out" I would agree, and I don't really need to finish the video [14:20] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx "Ctrl+Shift+A" should open addons in Firefox. You should look for "IPFS Companion" [14:20] schestowitz [14:18] Next to the search bar [14:20] schestowitz can't find any [14:21] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Try the keyboard method I just mentioned [14:21] schestowitz I did [14:21] schestowitz it's not even listed there [14:21] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Then it hasn't installed [14:21] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You can look it up in the addon search at the top of that page [14:22] schestowitz seems like I missed a consent step [14:25] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Ping me once the container is up and running and the addon is connected to it [14:25] schestowitz I need to read up on the whole thing, I'm new to this [14:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx No worries [14:26] *inky (~norayr@37.186.105.91) has joined #techrights [14:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx This is a nice way to keep your archive online btw [14:27] schestowitz it always says it's offline, cannot figure out what put in configs [14:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Did you start the container? [14:27] schestowitz no [14:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You'll need to do that [14:28] schestowitz now it's online as embedded [14:28] schestowitz but it says "Experimental" [14:28] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Hmm [14:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Can you see a "Files" option? [14:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx On the left side of the interface [14:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Also, here's a summary of Docker instructions: https://pastebin.com/WWUeJP5W [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-> mkdir /tmp/ipfs-docker-staging> mkdir /tmp/ipfs-docker-data> docker run -d - Pastebin.com [14:30] schestowitz import and share files [14:30] schestowitz with drag-and-drop ui [14:30] schestowitz not what I need [14:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx There's a CLI version too [14:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx But you need the container for that [14:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx The Addon is just an interface [14:32] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx In "Settings" you should see "CLI TUTOR MODE" which will add a CLI alternative to the GUI version of an operation [14:33] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx But you will need to install the daemon via container of whatever other deployment method you want [14:33] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx or whatever* [14:33] schestowitz n such option [14:33] schestowitz anyway, I need "for dummies" guidance on this [14:33] schestowitz I don't have time to learn every facet of this [14:33] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That's fine. I can do a writeup of this some other time [14:33] schestowitz which is why I hoped someone can help do this directly [14:36] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx There's an electron app as well [14:37] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx http://docs.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/install/ipfs-desktop/#ubuntu [14:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to docs.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://docs.ipfs.io.ipns.localhost:8080/install/ipfs-desktop/#ubuntu ) [14:37] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Bugger [14:37] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Sec [14:37] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx https://docs.ipfs.io/install/ [14:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.ipfs.io | Install IPFS | IPFS Docs [14:37] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx There we go [14:38] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Just for proof of concept [14:38] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx https://docs.ipfs.io/install/ipfs-desktop/ [14:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.ipfs.io | IPFS Desktop | IPFS Docs [14:38] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That's the right link. [14:42] schestowitz why do they use shithub? [14:43] schestowitz lol, dweb [14:43] schestowitz developed centrally on Microsoft server [14:43] schestowitz it's like timbl doing the same [14:43] schestowitz his 'fix' for the WWW is some shithub (proprietary) stuff [14:43] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's funny because they're building the technology that can be used to destroy ShitHub [14:44] schestowitz they basically do the very thing they preach against [14:44] schestowitz XRevan86: samem for gitea [14:44] schestowitz *same [14:44] thddx the other day, i read about microsoft's mobile azure server farm project [14:44] schestowitz and gitlab was using azure until 2 years ago [14:44] schestowitz Microsoft really grabbed many things by the throat [14:44] schestowitz it waited for 4 years for this to happen... like a submarine attack [14:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx wub wub wub [14:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx whooosh [14:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx boom [14:47] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You got torpedoed [14:52] schestowitz not blender [14:52] schestowitz they foresaw the risk [14:54] schestowitz nevertheless: :/ http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/influence-for-sale-to-microsoft/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Turn Away From Microsoft Money (Influence for Sale) | Techrights [14:54] schestowitz also http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/blender-payments-from-microsoft-and-unity/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Hand Inside the Blender: Microsoft Money for Blenders Development Fund is Not a Cookie Jar Donation But Another Power Move | Techrights [14:57] schestowitz looking for the Ton Roosendaal one [14:58] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Don't forget The "Linux" Foundation [14:58] schestowitz oh, crap, I look for something that does not exist [14:58] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/blender-payments-from-microsoft-and-unity/ [14:58] schestowitz I already quoted him in full ehre [14:58] schestowitz as text rather than screenshots of tweets [14:59] schestowitz vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: what;s the xuniL Foundation? [14:59] schestowitz is that any good? ● Oct 31 [15:00] schestowitz xuniL Foundation should check out this "LINUX" thing [15:00] schestowitz techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ [15:00] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/ [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | Techrights [15:00] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/ [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights [15:00] schestowitz stupid FIrefox now chops off the http(s):// [15:00] schestowitz that happened years ago [15:00] schestowitz they fixed it for a few years [15:01] schestowitz I should really just use Falkon 100% of the time, right now it's about 90% [15:01] schestowitz Firefox tends to annoy more more [15:01] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:01] schestowitz they make bloated translucent dropdowns in the address bar that only harm usability [15:02] schestowitz I can barely even copy a part of a URL from there [15:02] schestowitz as it keeps adding "Effects" and interferes with the selection [15:02] schestowitz this is how you make a browser like fisher price toy [15:02] schestowitz and this is who runs Mozilla now [15:02] schestowitz Fisher Price Inc. [15:02] schestowitz "click here to enable DRM" [15:02] schestowitz click, done, yay! Disney videos work now. [15:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm one of those people who likes full selection on first click, so selecting a part when I want to is not a problem for my habits. [15:03] XRevan86 just click twice [15:03] schestowitz XRevan86: try with latest Firefox ESR [15:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm on 82 [15:03] schestowitz it keeps doing transitions when you already work on the text in there [15:03] schestowitz and if you copy paste it'll omit the protocol [15:03] schestowitz they used to have this chrome-borrowed idiocy about 7 years ago [15:03] schestowitz then it was solved [15:03] schestowitz now it's back again [15:04] schestowitz so I keep posting URls that are not clickable, by accident [15:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ah, the good-old browser.urlbar.trimURLs [15:04] schestowitz Falkon never does this [15:04] schestowitz it keeps things simple and tidy [15:04] Chaekyung so I'm looking at the videos from the linux corporation now that the conference is over and it's possible to watch without paying $50 [15:04] XRevan86 I have it disabled for many years, so I don't even know the behaviour %). [15:05] XRevan86 Screw trimURLs, yea. [15:05] schestowitz but my older browsing history is in Firefox, so sometimes I need to fetch old articles from "AwesomeBar" (they used to actually call it that) [15:05] schestowitz Chaekyung: LF? [15:05] Chaekyung please look at https://yoona.everdot.org/i/linux-foundation.jpg and tell me the first two things that pop into your mind [15:06] Chaekyung the actual page is https://youtu.be/ag1taYKGhJI?t=2808 btw [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Networking & Edge Summit Keynote - Day 1 - YouTube [15:06] schestowitz hmm... unity in 2020 [15:06] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx No window manager [15:06] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx respect -1 [15:06] Chaekyung bandicam watermark in 2020 [15:06] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx lmao [15:06] Chaekyung old ubuntu in oracle VM on windows in 2020 [15:06] schestowitz lol [15:07] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I didn't even notice the Windows [15:07] Chaekyung also beecutu watermark [15:07] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Linus sucking that Micro$oft phallus [15:10] schestowitz How microsoft deals with projects that defy the Microsoft monopoly 1) http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/blender-payments-from-microsoft-and-unity/ 2) http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/influence-for-sale-to-microsoft/ #cult #deletegithub [15:10] schestowitz Torvalds is finished after they canceled him one time [15:10] schestowitz The New Yorker [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Hand Inside the Blender: Microsoft Money for Blenders Development Fund is Not a Cookie Jar Donation But Another Power Move | Techrights [15:10] schestowitz Conde Nast [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Turn Away From Microsoft Money (Influence for Sale) | Techrights [15:10] schestowitz Whose award-winning writer was jerking off on ZOOM [15:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Amateur [15:10] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That's why you set up macros [15:11] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx :') [15:11] schestowitz and whose Microsoft writer was arrested for raping little kids [15:11] schestowitz Peter Bright [15:11] Chaekyung I really enjoyed the defense on that zoom thing [15:11] schestowitz he came here to IRC in the past [15:11] Chaekyung "I thought only the microphone was on" [15:11] schestowitz he even used his nickname "drPizza" here [15:11] Chaekyung so.. it's alright to be on a zoom call and jerk it off if the camera's off [15:11] Chaekyung idk [15:12] schestowitz https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/30/zoom-dick-follies/ [15:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zoom Dick Follies - CounterPunch.org [15:12] schestowitz "Just in case you were looking at porn or pics of cute Pomeranians instead of the gossip we call news, allow me the honor of spilling it: Esteemed best-selling author, Emmy-winning New Yorker staff writer and CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin was caught with his pants down, literally, masturbating, as so many of us do these days and every dayexcept most of us dont do it on a New Yorker staff Zoom call, which is what Mr. Toobin was [15:12] schestowitz doin." [15:12] schestowitz New Yorker 'ousted' Torvalds in 2018 [15:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx "as so many of us do these days" *these days*? [15:13] schestowitz using the guise of "sex" [15:13] schestowitz now look at their own "award-winning" 'pros' [15:13] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx They got RMS for the same [15:13] schestowitz writing stars fancying themselves as pr0n stars [15:14] MinceR conde nasty [15:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Microsoft is using the last resource they have left [15:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Money [15:14] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Once that runs out they're finished [15:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx They didn't bother to diversify. They went on with dumb ideas like Windows phone [15:15] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Look at Zuckerbot. You got a load of stuff out of FB. Btrfs, React framework, etc [15:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Like him or not, FB won't die because of those diversification decisions [15:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Meanwhile good old MS sat there thinking Windows will never be toppled off the top of the OS market [15:17] Chaekyung Not sure FB is that diverse. [15:17] Chaekyung What do they got beyond websites? [15:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Oculus [15:17] MinceR they did try to diversify, they just sucked at that too [15:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx loads of software projects [15:17] Chaekyung They _are_ diverse with facebook, instagram, and a few more [15:17] MinceR microshit bought a bunch of corporations too [15:17] Chaekyung oh yeah the Oculus is trendy right now. There's a new one or something. Not sure. [15:18] MinceR like linkedin and zenimax [15:18] schestowitz [15:14] conde nasty [15:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx zstd is a pretty good compression algorithm as well. That's from Facebook [15:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Cond) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights [15:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Facebook have done a lot tbh [15:18] MinceR :) [15:18] Chaekyung zstd is amazing [15:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's nowhere near GNU but still significant [15:18] schestowitz firefox again dropped the http [15:19] schestowitz who does this 'feature' of stripping off parts of addresses cater for? [15:19] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I'm not for social control media but credit is due where credit is due [15:19] Chaekyung What really annoys me about that is that it may say whatever.tld in the address bar but if you copy it you get https://whatever.tld [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: whatever.tld; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://whatever.tld ) [15:19] Chaekyung I don't like what you see is not what you get [15:20] MinceR and if you want to select part of it, it moves under the pointer when you click [15:20] MinceR yanking UI elements back and forth under the pointer is so hot right now [15:20] schestowitz right [15:21] schestowitz there are many issues with this [15:21] schestowitz I forgot which program it was that changed the UI under my mouse, so sometimes I'd click the wrong item [15:21] schestowitz sometimes Firefox expansion of history was like that [15:21] MinceR failfox does one better [15:22] MinceR if you press enter, it (sometimes?) pretends you left-clicked [15:22] schestowitz oh, twitter became like that [15:22] schestowitz the "desktop" or "full" version [15:22] Chaekyung I did read that it's somehow fraud prevention. if you make paypal.techrights.org and the address bar is short, like on mobiles, it may look like "https://paypal." [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://paypal ) [15:23] Chaekyung while that may or may not make sense on a smartphone, I don't get it on a desktop [15:23] Chaekyung how frequently does anyone re-size a browser window so only 8 chars of the address is shown if http or https is included? [15:23] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Good point [15:25] schestowitz sometimes I open a page just to get the url [15:26] schestowitz not I need to wait for like 5 seconds for Firefox to "settle" [15:26] schestowitz otherwise it'll f* around [15:26] schestowitz sometimes I open to grab post ID [15:26] schestowitz for old posts of mine [15:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx schestowitz: can you grab this? https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNWYWSE4jjditfbLPHJXqfnhyAJ1KR3uC2APsxsWGc9Jh?filename=test.txt [15:26] schestowitz in the latest update it went all wrong, they try to 'protect' me from getting just part of the URL [15:26] schestowitz I left FF completely 2016-2020 [15:27] schestowitz came back to it for a few months this year, now walking away again [15:27] schestowitz "Arbitrary data." [15:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Yep [15:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That's through the HTTP gateway [15:27] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx For people that don't have IPFS on their system [15:28] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx If you have any files you'd like me to archive, I can pin them on my IPFS node. [15:29] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx You can build up an index of HTTP gateway links to make content accessible to people who know nothing about IPFS [15:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Send those as RSS updates [15:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Distributed CMS [15:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Whazza [15:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx If someone likes what they read, they can just pin that content to their own IPFS node from the CID in the HTTP gateway link. [15:30] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Great way to build up DDoS resistance [15:34] MinceR nice [15:35] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And it's 100% decentralised [15:35] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx I need a break. 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[16:14] *tr_guest|41099 (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has joined #techrights [16:18] *Cqh81abs (490bb546@c-73-11-181-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #techrights [16:19] Cqh81abs Whoever wrote this is a moron [16:19] Cqh81abs http://techrights.org/2020/10/29/msft-mozilla/ [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Mozillas 2020 Vision | Techrights [16:20] Cqh81abs You understand his blog post is about moving from Azure to free software right [16:20] schestowitz hi [16:20] schestowitz it's on Azure [16:20] Cqh81abs This is why you actually read the article [16:21] schestowitz and github [16:21] schestowitz there was never a reason to use these in the first place [16:21] Cqh81abs Doing some poor keyword match do decide your opinion of everything makes you look like raving idiot [16:21] schestowitz and that's just generally the point [16:21] Cqh81abs Skme poorly calibrated AI [16:21] schestowitz I saw part II also [16:23] Cqh81abs Yes the core aspect is about migrating people to use free software [16:23] schestowitz Mozilla needs to self-host [16:23] schestowitz outside github [16:23] schestowitz bugzilla is OK [16:23] schestowitz then geeks like me can recommend FIrefox like we did for a decade [16:24] schestowitz just hours ago in this channel we blasted Firefox for a bunch of UI mistakes [16:24] Cqh81abs Use chrome if you don't like it [16:25] *tr_guest|41099 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [16:26] Cqh81abs Anyways please learn to read and improve your reading comprehension past that of a regex matching for Azure github and microsoft [16:26] *Cqh81abs has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:34] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [16:34] -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [16:34] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [16:40] schestowitz http://code.v.igoro.us/posts/2020/10/tc-db-part-1.html [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-code.v.igoro.us | Taskcluster's DB (Part 1) - Azure to Postgres [16:40] schestowitz "Until April 2020, Taskcluster stored its data in Azure Storage tables, a simple NoSQL-style service similar to AWSs DynamoDB. Briefly, each Azure table is a list of JSON objects with a single primary key composed of a partition key and a row key. Lookups by primary key are fast and parallelize well, but scans of an entire table are extremely slow and subject to API rate limits. Taskcluster was carefully designed within these [16:40] schestowitz constraints, but that meant that some useful operations, such as listing tasks by their task queue ID, were simply not supported. Switching to a fully-relational datastore would enable such operations, while easing deployment of the system for organizations that do not use Azure." [16:40] schestowitz I don't see where this was wrong [16:40] schestowitz surely it's just him trying to defend himself [16:40] schestowitz after negative publicity [16:40] schestowitz why was it stored with Microsoft until this past spring? [16:41] schestowitz it's not like Azure was a separate company bought by Microsoft this year [16:41] schestowitz unlike GitHub up until 2018 [16:41] schestowitz Clearly somebody CHOSE Microsoft [16:42] schestowitz potentially giving directly access, by Microsoft, to Firefox data ● Oct 31 [17:06] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Lite 5.2 Officially Released, Based on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143862 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0caa01d8-37bc-478c-ad18-47a0e1b63054] [17:09] *psydread (eace4d91cc@2a01:7c8:aab8:6b9:5054:ff:fec9:fd84) has joined #techrights [17:12] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: Psensor, Video Players and Cockpit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143864 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ff208b7-639e-46d9-a63c-1ce9cadc2fe3] [17:16] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5d15bc84-c4c3-4fbe-bc8b-c50b806d4796] [17:19] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Does Windows and ASUS Gaming Laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143866 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2a18a0ba-cced-4cef-8311-1fc4625a2c6c] [17:21] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143867 [https://pleroma.site/objects/850800c7-d6a7-4138-8ce8-e41743b7876b] [17:22] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[18:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx AGPLv3 changes that [18:16] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's a loophole that's been abused for decades now [18:17] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx SAAS = Software As A Service [18:19] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's a big part of how we ended up with all these cloud services that we have today. Users couldn't see a lot of the development that happened on GPL code [18:20] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx A few companies essentially hijacked GPL code through that loophole and turned it into a proprietary product [18:21] MinceR SaaSS = Service as a Software Substitute [18:22] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Very true [18:22] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Why should I pay for a business solution when I can just use software to give me that value [18:23] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx With GPL, devs basically work for free for someone to monetize their effort [18:23] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Just to have their hard work sold off as a SAAS product [18:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx The whole GNU project should dump the GPLv3 and re-license everything to AGPLv3 [18:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx That way it forces people to actually donate to the project or pay them for support [18:24] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And not steal their work [18:25] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's how Nmap has been operating long before AGPLv3 [18:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Nmap sells support and OEM licenses for inclusion of Nmap in proprietary products [18:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx And the Nmap license is essentially AGPLv3 with a few addons [18:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx It's the winning formula. [18:26] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx They've managed to keep control of their software and effectively fund the project. [18:35] scientes https://hackaday.com/2020/10/27/amd-acquires-xilinx-for-35-billion/ [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Acquires Xilinx For $35 Billion | Hackaday ● Oct 31 [19:15] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:18] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Nvidia bought ARM not long ago [19:30] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [19:33] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:34] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [19:36] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:42] scientes oh yeah I forgot about that one [19:42] scientes and IBM bought Red Hat [19:42] scientes Intel is small now [19:52] vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx Still a big player in the market [19:54] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights ● Oct 31 [21:24] schestowitz covid leads to consolidation, which helps nobody [21:25] schestowitz although you could argue that the sale prices would be the same regardless [21:26] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:28] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Control Philips Hue lights in Ubuntu 20.04, 20.10 via Gnome Extension http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143868#comment-26970 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bd668285-1363-4f8d-adc2-9588fa91a397] [21:31] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Control Philips Hue Lights on Ubuntu with this GNOME Extension http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143868 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ce32eed5-1594-4231-acd8-66c8f69c69cc] [21:32] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Brief History of Ubuntu Touch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143869 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a37209e7-56f0-456d-a9a4-e1e014921a9d] [21:34] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kick Microsoft Windows 10 to the curb switch to Ubuntu-based Linux Lite 5.2 today! 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