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[00:06] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/XwCthF8.mp4
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[00:17] schestowitz psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs
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[00:17] TR Bot Publishes Signed Ampere Firmware To Finally Allow Accelerated Open-Source Support - Phoronix
[00:17] schestowitz some kits, there you go
[00:17] schestowitz but "only" a handful
[00:18] schestowitz Than "AMD content" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs
[00:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Ampere-Firmware-Blobs
[00:19] psydruid IBM/Red Hat <3 Nvidia
[00:19] TR News 04/11: release of RebornOS 2022.04.10 https://rebornos.org/
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[00:19] TR Bot Homepage rebornos - RebornOS
[00:20] TR News This ladder must be fake and sold considering how many workers, including managers, are fleeing Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-named-fortunes-100-best-companies-work-list-fourth-year-row
[00:20] TR Bot Red Hat named to Fortunes 100 Best Companies to Work For list for the fourth year in a row
[00:21] TR News "Linux-based portable gaming PC has a few creative tricks up its sleeve" https://www.musicradar.com/news/valve-steam-deck-bitwig-studio-daw-vcv-rack-plugin
[00:21] TR Bot Steam Deck can run Bitwigs DAW and the VCV Rack 2 Pro synth as a plugin: a gaming handheld that music producers should be interested in, too? | MusicRadar
[00:22] TR News "This may give the impression that Firefox would feel absolutely at home on the GNU/Linux desktop." https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-make-firefox-feel-native-on-linux/
[00:22] TR Bot How to Make Firefox Feel Native on Linux Desktops
[00:23] TR News "If you're looking for a way to better organize your Firefox bookmarks, the built-in tagging system might be a big help. Learn how to take advantage of this feature." https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-firefox-tagging/
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[00:23] TR Bot to use the Firefox tagging system | TechRepublic
[00:23] TR News How to use Ghosterys privacy-minded Dawn browser | TechRepublic https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-use-ghosterys-privacy-minded-dawn-browser/ Source: techrepublic
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[00:23] TR Bot to use Ghosterys privacy-minded Dawn browser | TechRepublic
[00:24] TR News How to Install Your Own Federated Twitter with Pleroma - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-federated-twitter-pleroma/ Source: maketecheasier
[00:24] TR Bot How to Install Your Own Federated Twitter with Pleroma - Make Tech Easier
[00:25] TR News "Any code submission to LibreOffice should pass Gerrit code review in order to get merged into the LibreOffice codebase. This is possible using the code review tool Gerrit." https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/04/11/how-to-use-gerrit-code-review-effectively/
[00:25] TR Bot How to use Gerrit code review effectively - LibreOffice Development Blog
[00:26] TR News What are Vim Modes? How to Change Them? https://linuxhandbook.com/vim-modes/ Source: LinuxHandbook | GNU | Linux
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[00:26] TR Bot What are Vim Modes? How to Change Them?
[00:30] TR News Implementing buzzwords https://devops.com/3-must-haves-when-implementing-devsecops/
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[00:30] TR Bot Must-Haves When Implementing DevSecOps - DevOps.com
[00:30] TR News A buzzwords strategy https://www.suse.com/c/glimpse-reduces-time-to-launch-with-agile-devops-strategy/
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[00:30] TR Bot reduces time-to-launch with agile DevOps strategy | SUSE Communities
[00:31] bnchs__ you've heard of DevOps
[00:31] bnchs__ now HERE COMES
[00:31] bnchs__ DEVSECOPS
[00:31] TR News SUSE is pushing SAP's proprietary software AGAIN https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/
[00:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/accelerate-your-cloud-vision-join-suse-at-sap-sapphire-orlando/
[00:31] TR Bot Your Cloud Vision. JOIN SUSE at SAP Sapphire Orlando | SUSE Communities
[00:32] TR News 2022.15 Wordling - Rakudo Weekly News
[00:32] TR Bot 2022.15 Wordling Rakudo Weekly News
[00:32] TR News "SmokeMachine reported on IRC to have found an unusual use of subset." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/04/11/a-subset-of-red/
[00:32] TR Bot A Subset of Red | Playing Perl 6b6xA Raku
[00:32] TR News "Tyler Limkemann returns (after an extended absence) with a very nice article about how they used the Raku Programming Language to solve Wordle challenges. With plenty of code and theoretical background." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/04/11/2022-15-wordling/
[00:33] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: devDevs
[00:33] bnchs__ now be prepared for
[00:33] bnchs__ DevBallSecksOps
[00:33] schestowitz MedveDEV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin-Medvedev_tandemocracy?wprov=srpw1_0
[00:33] TR Bot Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy - Wikipedia
[00:35] TR News "Hello, everyone --let's review the Apache community's activities from over the past week" https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-weekly-news-round21
[00:35] TR Bot The Apache Weekly News Round-up: week ending 8 April 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
[00:35] psydruid SpecialMilitaryOps
[00:36] bnchs__ Microsoft(R) Presents
[00:36] bnchs__ SpecialMilitaryOps
[00:36] bnchs__ PLS GIVE US YOUR TAX MONEY!!!!
[00:36] schestowitz-TR TAXOps
[00:37] schestowitz-TR lessons of Monday:
[00:37] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot
[00:37] schestowitz-TR (also why I didn't post anything)
[00:37] schestowitz-TR never mistakenly try to upload concurrently 150MB every 5 minutes
[00:37] schestowitz-TR concurrently
[00:37] schestowitz-TR you will suffocate your home networek
[00:37] bnchs__ wow
[00:38] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot
[00:38] bnchs__ i don't even upload that much
[00:38] bnchs__ i can't say the same for most people in this country
[00:38] bnchs__ suffocating my entire ISP
[00:38] bnchs__ instead of a home network
[00:38] TR News "In this video, we are looking at how to install Flightgear on Debian 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE
[00:38] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE
[00:38] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE )
[00:38] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: it was a mistake
[00:39] schestowitz-TR generated i
[00:39] schestowitz-TR in a most bizarre
[00:39] schestowitz-TR way
[00:39] bnchs__ also privacy.gd is still dead
[00:39] bnchs__ maybe a outage
[00:39] bnchs__ or maintence
[00:39] TR News "Most Arch Linux installers including the primary iso require an internet connection to complete the installation process but what if you don't have one well you're in luck because Arch Boot exists." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU
[00:39] TR Bot https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU
[00:39] TR Bot invidious.weblibre.org | How To Install Arch Linux With NO INTERNET - Invidious
[00:40] XRevan86 Mariupol is not taken.
[00:40] bnchs__ how to install arch linux with no internet?
[00:40] TR News "Firewalls are made to protect the network from any threat by filtering both the in and outbound traffic and ensuring network security as well. The first thing when we talk about the 9 best open source firewalls is that they are free, well let us explain such a term for [Free] software" https://dekisoft.com/best-free-open-source-firewall/
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[00:40] TR Bot Best Free Open Source Firewall in 2022 - Windows/Linux - DekiSoft
[00:40] bnchs__ that's a dream
[00:41] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: not in one bite
[00:42] XRevan86 The Mariupol defenders claim that the chemical attack was not effective, and just three persons have severe symptoms.
[00:42] TR News WTH is "Gaming Monitor"? Way to charge several times more for the same thing and bribe sites like "maketecheasier" for hype. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/lg-27-ultrascreen-gaming-monitor/
[00:42] TR Bot Save $120 on an LG 27" Ultrascreen Gaming Monitor - Make Tech Easier
[00:43] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: they should catapultin it back to putler
[00:43] bnchs__ it's a GAYMING MOONITIER
[00:43] bnchs__ Boasting, aa
[00:43] bnchs__ a
[00:43] bnchs__ HIGHER PRICE
[00:43] bnchs__ and NO DIFFERENCES
[00:43] bnchs__ from a regular monitor
[00:43] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 730 for the week of April 3 9, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/04/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-730/
[00:44] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 730
[00:44] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: try gaming mouse
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming keyboard
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming shoes for PC gaming
[00:44] MinceR > WTH is "Gaming Monitor"?
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming gloves
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming pizza
[00:44] *schestowitz-TR gets a gaming teamug
[00:44] MinceR typically it has higher refresh frequency and shorter response time
[00:44] MinceR which leads to lower input lag
[00:45] schestowitz-TR like those gaming wifi things
[00:45] MinceR the one i have here also caters to TFPS players by having an option for adding a crosshair :>
[00:45] schestowitz-TR which claim the connection is better
[00:45] schestowitz-TR lower latency
[00:45] schestowitz-TR I bet you can get the same without Gaming(TM)
[00:45] schestowitz-TR you just buy a decent machine
[00:45] bnchs__ MinceR: i thought all the games already had that
[00:45] schestowitz-TR MinceR: "legit" cheating
[00:46] MinceR the good ones have it
[00:46] MinceR "modern" "tactical" FPS-es don't
[00:46] schestowitz-TR "I only took 'a little' EPO"
[00:46] MinceR or they have one that often disappears, or grows to the size of a house
[00:46] schestowitz-TR tim swine-e's server gets kernel report about "unauthorised" monitor
[00:47] bnchs__ be ready for the new fortnite pack
[00:47] bnchs__ gaming monitor
[00:48] MinceR fortinayti ile babacii
[00:48] TR News Years ago FOSS Force spoke about the corruption of Linux Foundation. Now, after getting money from Linux Foundation, it does puff pieces for the corrupt Linux Foundation. SJVN effect. https://fossforce.com/2022/04/protecting-open-source-security-as-cold-war-turns-hot/
[00:48] TR Bot OpenSSF Protects Open Source Security as Cold War Turns Hot- FOSS Force
[00:48] bnchs__ iybir ikis ikis ikis ikis ile GIRAAFIDADODINIII
[00:48] MinceR :>
[00:49] bnchs__ i don't know how they got grand theft auto to sound like that
[00:49] MinceR i don't know either
[00:49] MinceR i know the subtitles are turkish but i don't know what language they were actually speaking in
[00:50] TR News Microsoft, Microsoft... more than anything else https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/11/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
[00:50] TR Bot CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
[00:50] TR Bot Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog | CISA
[00:51] TR News Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online tomorrow.
[00:51] TR Bot Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[00:53] kingoffrance literally from a cover/title page ignorat terminis ignoratur et ars and je sais que chaque science et chaque art a ses termes propres, inconnus au commun des hommes any fundamentalism type "plain english" "law" is "bad faith" by definition
[00:53] TR News Destination Linux 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 https://destinationlinux.org/episode-273/
[00:53] TR Bot 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 - Destination Linux
[00:54] TR News Jussi Pakkanen: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch" https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/getting-web-proxys-and-certificates.html
[00:54] TR Bot Nibble Stew: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch"
[00:55] bnchs__ MinceR, https://youtube.com/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo
[00:55] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo
[00:55] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | fortnite or pubg 2 but other words - Invidious
[00:55] TR News "Because all Librem computers share are built on base OS/PureOS, there are many crossovers when it comes to software. Here is the guide you can use for all Librem Computers." https://puri.sm/posts/definitive-guide-to-user-documentation-for-librem-devices/
[00:55] TR Bot Definitive Guide to User Documentation for Librem Devices Purism
[00:57] bnchs__ figured out his name
[00:57] bnchs__ lilhancha
[00:57] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/search?q=lilhancha
[00:57] TR Bot lilhancha - Invidious
[00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 347.15
● Apr 12
[01:04] TR News How to Install and NSA shit on GNU/Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-ghidra-linux/ Source: makeuseof
[01:04] TR Bot How to Install and Run Ghidra on Linux
[01:06] TR News Ubuntu News and HowTos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163618
[01:06] TR Bot Ubuntu News and HowTos | Tux Machines
[01:07] TR News Firefox Nightly: These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/
[01:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/
[01:07] TR Bot These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 Firefox Nightly News
[01:07] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163619
[01:07] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:07] bnchs__ i used ghidra
[01:07] bnchs__ yes i know
[01:08] TR News Salix 15.0-alpha1 is release. But no message yet in https://blog.salixos.org/
[01:08] TR Bot The Salix Blog
[01:09] TR News "To take advantage of performance improvements, the latest security-vulnerability enhancements, and bug fixes, we've upgraded JRE for Cassandra and Elasticsearch. Both, Cassandra and Elasticsearch will now use JRE 8u322. Other components will now use JRE 11.0.14." https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/DYNATRACE-INC-63216144/news/Dynatrace-Managed-release-notes-version-1-238-40023980/
[01:09] TR Bot : Managed release notes version 1.238 | MarketScreener
[01:10] TR News Those are not "Linux" things; you are reinforcing misconceptions about what Linux actually is... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657050/demystifying-and-on-linux.html
[01:10] TR Bot Demystifying &&, ||, and ! on Linux | Network World
[01:11] TR News Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs https://hurricanelabs.com/blog/extracting-credentials-from-multifunction-devices Source: hurricanelabs
[01:11] TR Bot Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs
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[01:16] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163620
[01:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163620 )
[01:35] schestowitz-TR yikes
[01:35] schestowitz-TR I think the DB shat itself
[01:38] bnchs__ wtf
[01:38] schestowitz-TR it happened years ago as well
[01:38] schestowitz-TR an innodb error
[01:38] bnchs__ well at least it didn't happen like my ministry of education's website
[01:39] chunky failed kindergarten + your shower never gets cleaned + u watch and enjoy LRH every week + hoes mad + u take yr socks off on airplanes + broken startup scripts + you use mac
[01:39] MinceR lol @ LRH
[01:40] bnchs__ wtf is LRH
[01:40] schestowitz-TR XRevan86 is good at these things
[01:41] MinceR lafayette ronald hubbard, cult founder
[01:41] XRevan86 What things?
[01:41] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I will share with you excerpts
[01:41] bnchs__ [...] broken startup scripts + you use mac
[01:41] bnchs__ very accurate
[01:42] MinceR i don't know if crapOS uses scripts in its startup, but it is broken :>
[01:42] schestowitz XRevan86: sunday morning:
[01:42] schestowitz d
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:45 InnoDB: Starting shutdown...
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:47 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 44233
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:47 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:47 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 [Warning] '--log_slow_queries' is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Please use ''--slow_query_log'/'--slow_query_log_file'' instead.
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 8.0M
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 44233
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 [Note] Event Scheduler: Loaded 0 events
[01:42] schestowitz 220410 11:17:49 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
[01:42] schestowitz that led to a very slightly odd behaviour. so I noticed that
[01:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: This is perfectly clean. Apart from the deprecation warning.
[01:43] schestowitz then, half an hour ago:
[01:43] schestowitz n
[01:43] schestowitz 220412 0:15:17 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it
[01:43] schestowitz 220412 0:15:17 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it
[01:43] XRevan86 MyISAM? Oh boy.
[01:43] MinceR maybe mysql wants you to switch to postgres :>
[01:43] schestowitz drupal.node
[01:43] schestowitz error : Can't read key block from filepos: 10805248
[01:44] schestowitz error : Found key at page 1629184 that points to record outside datafile
[01:44] schestowitz Error : Incorrect key file for table './drupal/node.MYI'; try to repair it
[01:44] schestowitz status : Operation failed
[01:44] schestowitz drupal.node_access OK
[01:44] schestowitz drupal.node_comment_statistics
[01:44] bnchs__ IT'S OVER
[01:44] schestowitz warning : Can't change size of indexfile, error: 5
[01:44] schestowitz status : OK
[01:44] XRevan86 MyISAM has repair utilities, they are lossy of course.
[01:44] schestowitz Repairing tables
[01:44] schestowitz drupal.node
[01:44] schestowitz warning : Can't change size of indexfile, error: 5
[01:44] schestowitz status : OK
[01:45] XRevan86 MinceR: postgres is the best DBMS, but this isn't really mysql's fault, this is legacy.
[01:45] schestowitz my last "good" backup, assuming before the sunday night thing, is sunday 5am
[01:45] MinceR :>
[01:45] XRevan86 My closest experience with MyISAM was when I was migrating MyISAM tables to InnoDB.
[01:45] MinceR :>
[01:46] bnchs__ schestowitz, you can try doing "perror 5"
[01:46] bnchs__ to get more information about the error code
[01:46] chunky your grandma is 40 + ur house has roaches + your links r 404 + you save forums as a pdf + u went to fyre feast + u breathe loud as fuck
[01:46] MinceR lol
[01:46] XRevan86 I guess a good idea would be to figure out what the "node" table is about.
[01:47] schestowitz it's the table with all the posts
[01:47] schestowitz a similar situation happened a couple of time years ago
[01:47] schestowitz the simplest fix was,
[01:47] chunky u have a favorite commercial + u pay for pornhub + u still wear covid masks + your blogs are retarded + go outside + car infested with squirrels
[01:47] schestowitz restore from backup
[01:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: Was that the time when I recommended to you to migrate to InnoDB?
[01:47] schestowitz then readd the missing nodes
[01:47] XRevan86 I'm pretty sure I said it at least once.
[01:47] bnchs__ [...] u went to fyre feast [...]
[01:47] bnchs__ i still haven't recovered
[01:48] schestowitz XRevan86: maybe this is a good opportunity to update the whole OS, Ariadne?
[01:48] chunky the typo gives it character
[01:48] schestowitz I can move everything there, then load a better DB and import the latest good backup into that
[01:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: The database is not going to migrate itself regardless of the OS.
[01:49] schestowitz yeah, but the mysql dump would, I think
[01:49] XRevan86 Unless it explicitly mentions "ENGINE = 'MyISAM'"
[01:49] XRevan86 (not verbatim)
[01:49] schestowitz though in the past we got the same issue when importing this site's dump onto a newwe version of mariadb/mysql
[01:50] schestowitz XRevan86: ah, maybe that's why it did not work when we tried
[01:50] schestowitz we tried several times
[01:50] my computer instead of shuting down is rebooting
[01:50] linux is crazy
[01:50] XRevan86 mysqldump will preserve the selected engine, because it's a back-up after all, it won't lose the engine information willy-nilly.
[01:51] bnchs__ : what did you do
[01:51] nothing
[01:51] schestowitz XRevan86: that's good to know, thanls
[01:51] at least its booting
[01:51] schestowitz that would likely explain why we failed to export the DB to a more modern DB server
[01:51] i was giving me a had time booting
[01:51] schestowitz XRevan86: is there a means for conversion?
[01:51] XRevan86 It would import successfully, it just won't improve.
[01:52] now it boots ok it just foesent shutdown ok
[01:52] schestowitz there's 18 years of data in it
[01:52] schestowitz I guess it's our biggest technical debt
[01:53] i blame google for it
[01:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Either ALTER TABLE with ENGINE = 'InnoDB' and then back-up (time-intensive to do both), or patch the back-up file to mention "InnoDB" instead of "MyISAM".
[01:53] i bet its elon musk having fun at my expense
[01:53] XRevan86 s/MyISAM/InnoDB/g won't do because that will also mess up the data.
[01:54] schestowitz XRevan86: :-(
[01:54] schestowitz so no simple .dump -> .dump for another storage engine?
[01:54] chunky u buy cigarettes online + u use library internet + u make everyone depresed + yr mom is attracted to u + dick so small cant even hit the IUD + u do this meme all day + get a fucking life + ur mom chugs hand sanitizer + overdosed on herbal ecstasy
[01:55] schestowitz tbh, I don't mind re-adding a day's worth of nodes
[01:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm not aware of mysqldump being capable to replace stuff on the fly.
[01:55] bnchs__ "yr mom is attracted to u + dick so small cant even hit the IUD"
[01:55] bnchs__ ok now that doesn't make sense
[01:55] schestowitz if we can at least evacuate the DB to a more modern machine
[01:55] schestowitz Ariadne: are you around?
[01:56] schestowitz XRevan86: let's just say I have a working backup, pre-incident
[01:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also remember that "SHOW TABLE STATUS" will show all the relevant information about the tables in the current database.
[01:56] XRevan86 One can overview it and then ALTER TABLE the relevant tables.
[01:56] chunky u like seagulls (dumb) + no1 noticed u were here + u draw on money + u believe popups that say u have a virus + cheap cologne + u breathe loud as fuck
[01:57] schestowitz it's possible that this morning's backup is in OK state too
[01:57] schestowitz because you said that Sunday warning did not indicate a fatal panic
[01:58] chunky is a racist pig
[01:58] schestowitz at the moment we have a poorly 'repaired' DB
[01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 323.76
[01:59] chunky : i am not wtf
[01:59] you didnt upload your DB backup to ipfs?
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[02:00] schestowitz I have two backups from this morning, 4am and 5am. Bur the Sunday 5am one seems 'safer' to try
[02:00] psydruid
[02:00] schestowitz but we've long had an issue with this DB as the moment we export it to a newer installation it would then break itself when modified
[02:01] schestowitz likely, as you noted, since the storage engine isn't set "properly"
[02:01] schestowitz but we deal with almost 20 years of work here, and could really use a way to 'modernise' the DB, XRevan86
[02:02] .
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[02:04] ypu upload it to IPFS and let the community solve it
[02:04] schestowitz XRevan86: if you had to choose a backup, would you choose the one from sunday morning before the first little panic?
[02:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: As MinceR pointed out, the ultimate modernisation is to use mysql_fdw and migrate to postgres :)
[02:05] psydruid
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[02:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: That sounds reasonable.
[02:05] schestowitz let's say this version of drupal does not support postgres
[02:06] schestowitz (I don't think it does)
[02:06] schestowitz I could, at the moment, revert back to the sunday morning backup
[02:06] schestowitz but I thought of having a go at moving to a whole new OS for the site during easter
[02:07] schestowitz so this is an opportunity, too
[02:07] chunky im not strung out enough to chat with u + u tried on a burka + no one talks to u on omegle + u listen to kpop + you dont even skate + micropenis + u watch yoga pants vids
[02:07] XRevan86 I'm going to sleep though.
[02:07] XRevan86 Is chunky a person?
[02:07] chunky sup
[02:08] schestowitz XRevan86: ok, thank you
[02:08] psydruid ,
[02:09] XRevan86 , ?
[02:09] kingoffrance i was hoping chunky would bust out some rhymes
[02:10] chunky u pay for youtube premium + u shower with sister + save hot water + cant bbq + don't care + your mom fucks your friends + u pay for pornhub
[02:10] psydruid
[02:10] fucking script kifs
[02:10] script kids
[02:10] chunky :(
[02:10] chunky lighten up pal
[02:10] chunky have some FUN
[02:11] XRevan86 psydruid:
[02:11] psydruid just ignore him in your client
[02:11] why you whont let me?
[02:11] chunky u think anonymous is cool + your dad fucked my ass + proactiv didnt work for u + u thought invading iraq was a good idea + all ur memes are deepfried + micropenis + irrelevant
[02:11] psydruid until someone here sees the light and bans him
[02:12] XRevan86 psydruid: I think MinceR should actually consider.
[02:12] XRevan86 MinceR: It is time.
[02:12] chunky MODS!!!!! BAN THIS EVIL PERSON!!!
[02:12] psydruid XRevan86, he could have done so a long time ago, if he wanted
[02:13] XRevan86 I'm impressed, that looked coherent.
[02:13] psydruid not evil, just stupid beyond limits
[02:14] chunky yea well..
[02:14] chunky u watch hentai (weeb) + u talk to mormons that come to your house + irrelevant + u wear a bath robe + u were born with herpes + proactiv didnt work for u + ur dehydated
[02:14] XRevan86 What is a sign that someone should get banned? When they fail to string a sentence together?
[02:14] chunky i can string so many sentences together dude
[02:14] chunky i can string them all around you
[02:14] MinceR chunky: yeah, but can you make them make sense?
[02:14] chunky you'll be covered in strings that are actually sentences
[02:14] psydruid if this is the best LF and friends can do, they need to try harder
[02:14] chunky gonna be fun
[02:14] chunky sounds like a party tbh
[02:14] pig talk
[02:14] MinceR :>
[02:15] chunky what's LF?
[02:15] schestowitz XRevan86: https://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/22684/drupal-6-database-has-mixed-innodb-myisam-need-to-fix-before-migration
[02:15] TR Bot Drupal 6 database has mixed InnoDB & MyISAM. Need to fix before migration - Drupal Answers
[02:15] low life
[02:15] kingoffrance linux foundation
[02:16] chunky ah
[02:16] chunky you guys do kernel stuff?
[02:16] schestowitz https://groups.drupal.org/node/95364 https://www.drupal.org/project/dbtuner
[02:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://groups.drupal.org/node/95364 )
[02:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.drupal.org/project/dbtuner )
[02:16] chunky any thoughts on io_uring?
[02:17] kingoffrance long ago there was free software, and then there was open source, and now its just a confusion of tongues :D
[02:17] schestowitz db tuner deprecated like 8 years ago
[02:17] chunky long ago there was free software, and then there was open source, and now there's both
[02:18] schestowitz XRevan86: if you're still about, any way of running things with MyISAM on a modern OS?
[02:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: I never said MyISAM won't run.
[02:19] XRevan86 It's just not a reliable way of storing information.
[02:19] schestowitz-TR right, thanks.
[02:19] schestowitz-TR so a modern OS can be configured to use it?
[02:20] schestowitz-TR we typically make backup dumps each morning, locally and remotely
[02:20] chunky slipknot + u still wear your highschool football jersey + career complainer + ratio'd + u have mold under your sink + u pay for cable + u bought fake kratom
[02:20] are you using mango or maria DB?
[02:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: MariaDB and Oracle MySQL both maintain compatibility.
[02:20] schestowitz-TR ah, OK, so if I were to install them, I just need to set some flag right?
[02:21] schestowitz-TR and that would be done separately from handling the DB dump?
[02:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: There's no flag.
[02:22] XRevan86 MyISAM tables will just work (badly, but that's just their nature).
[02:23] bnchs__ gn
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[02:23] schestowitz-TR when we imported this DB about 2 years ago it was failing the moment I added new nodes
[02:24] schestowitz-TR everything else seemed OK, when importing, but when Drupal got used it would break. We tried 2-3 times.
[02:24] schestowitz-TR So the goal is to preserve all site data (18 years) while moving to a modern OS.
[02:24] schestowitz-TR MyISAM was "good enough" to come this far
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[02:26] you should use bleachbit and start anew
[02:27] schestowitz-TR we need solutions, not jokes
[02:28] chunky cancelled + u read articles about celebs + u think u 'have a connection' with the stripper + micropenis + u punch holes in your walls + u own collectibles + u use telegram + u draw on money
[02:29] AdmFubar schestowitz-TR: did you check aria for a db replacement?
[02:29] all i know about MyISAM is that its an exploit waiting to happen
[02:29] schestowitz-TR I have not
[02:30] DaemonFC Well, now I officially own a luxury car.
[02:30] DaemonFC B-)
[02:30] how much CO2 per galon?
[02:30] DaemonFC The old lady that owned it before me drove it over a curb and fucked up the front suspension too, so they had to do a front end rebuild on it.
[02:31] DaemonFC Rides like a dream.
[02:31] DaemonFC <> how much CO2 per galon?
[02:31] DaemonFC That would be consistent among all cars.
[02:31] DaemonFC You mean how much CO2 per mile driven?
[02:32] DaemonFC Who knows. It's a 3800 V6 Series III so probably a lot.
[02:32] DaemonFC I'd rather buy more gas than deal with an aluminum and plastic engine.
[02:32] no luxury cars release more CO2 per galon
[02:32] XRevan86 : Aria is better, but InnoDB would still be a better fit for this type of table.
[02:32] DaemonFC Well, with aluminum and plastic, you can't win on TCO vs. an old gas guzzler.
[02:33] MinceR how much CO2 does a BMW release while burning into a pile of ash?
[02:33] DaemonFC Just warming it up and cooling it back down fatigues the plastic intakes.
[02:33] DaemonFC how much CO2 does a BMW release while burning into a pile of ash?
[02:33] XRevan86 pick one that you can port in another 5 years
[02:33] DaemonFC With a BMW, you _can_ keep the engine going a long time, but few of them listen to the mechanic when they tell them how you manage that.
[02:33] MinceR just don't start it, ever
[02:33] MinceR keep it in a garage
[02:34] MinceR better yet, don't even buy it
[02:34] DaemonFC You basically have to proactively replace the entire cooling system every 7 years or 75,000 miles, MinceR
[02:34] MinceR as for plastic parts, some manufacturers manage to get away with them
[02:34] DaemonFC It's VERY expensive, so then their engine gets destroyed the first time it overheats.
[02:34] MinceR just not the germans
[02:34] DaemonFC And they need a new engine PLUS a cooling system.
[02:35] DaemonFC MinceR, The 3800 V6 has some quirks, but the later models were very reliable overall.
[02:35] DaemonFC Cheap to fix.
[02:35] DaemonFC It was ranked one of the top 10 engines of the 20th century.
[02:35] so they are perfect cars for innuits
[02:35] DaemonFC Though GM improved it again in 2005.
[02:35] AdmFubar https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-youre-muted-videoconferencing-apps-mic.html
[02:35] TR Bot You're muted... or are you? Videoconferencing apps may listen even when mic is off
[02:35] DaemonFC Better connecting rods.
[02:36] MinceR usually i just used the hw mute switch on my headset
[02:36] DaemonFC MinceR, I have it scheduled back into the shop on Wednesday.
[02:36] MinceR good luck listening through that :>
[02:36] DaemonFC Coolant and transmission flush and oil change.
[02:36] DaemonFC I'm picking up a new AGM style car battery too eventually.
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[02:37] DaemonFC I was talking to Shaq about that and said "Well, I always flush the coolant and get the transmission serviced after I buy a used car. Sometimes a new S-belt right away too, but this one looks fine. In the long run, it's a lot cheaper than what continuing to run old fluid will do.".
[02:38] chunky lmao
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[02:39] schestowitz "The USE_FRM option is available for use if the .MYI index file is missing or if its header is corrupted. This option tells MySQL not to trust the information in the .MYI file header and to re-create it using information from the .frm file. This kind of repair cannot be done with myisamchk."
[02:39] schestowitz https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2428738/how-do-you-fix-a-mysql-incorrect-key-file-error-when-you-cant-repair-the-tabl
[02:39] TR Bot How do you fix a MySQL "Incorrect key file" error when you can't repair the table? - Stack Overflow
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[02:42] AdmFubar https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-transistor-world-digital-energy.html
[02:42] TR Bot New transistor could cut 5% from world's digital energy budget
[02:53] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-jnkQcj0sA
[02:53] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J-jnkQcj0sA
[02:53] TR Bot yewtu.be | Allstate Insurance "Lawyer" - Invidious
[02:55] kingoffrance lol well hegelianism sells
[02:55] kingoffrance great example of "the system" co-opts any real resistance
[02:56] kingoffrance "anarchy for sale" -- dead kennedys
[02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 307.20
● Apr 12
[03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 148858 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40133 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 2 days ago
[03:04] the site is ofline
[03:05] chunky dick so small cant even hit the IUD + never grilled corn + u still play pokemon go + u call ppl beta and alpha males + you leave the tags on your hats + you blame black folk for ruining your life
[03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 432 MB TotalOut: 104 MB
[03:05] stfu pig
[03:05] schestowitz-TR can we be on topic?
[03:06] schestowitz-TR so anyway, anyone here good at DBs?
[03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:06] schestowitz-TR I tried manual repairs too
[03:06] schestowitz-TR to be clear:
[03:06] Firefox cant establish a connection to the server at www.tuxmachines.org.
[03:06] schestowitz-TR this happened before
[03:06] schestowitz-TR the simplest fix is, revert back to OK backup
[03:06] schestowitz-TR you try https probab
[03:07] IPFS QmXXLtscfDbwVhn13YG3uYit85zkFCS4WjNa9MM64s3Ee4
[03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:07] schestowitz-TR one route out of this is to upgrade a bunch of other stuff too, and add TLS
[03:07] MinceR chunky: you're becoming repetitive
[03:07] chunky sowwy :(
[03:07] chunky owl do better
[03:07] your new Drupal website!
[03:07] schestowitz-TR fixing the site isn't impossible, I could fix it in a couple of minutes
[03:08] schestowitz-TR but I contacted Ariadne as it might be a good chance to just move it to another OS, too
[03:08] schestowitz-TR ahead of Easter Weekend
[03:09] what os?
[03:10] AdmFubar from the don't tase me bro department https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/04/cops-take-dim-view-of-autonomous-vehicle-driving-with-no-lights-at-night/
[03:10] TR Bot Driverless car appears to flee the scene after being pulled over by cops | Ars Technica
[03:10] schestowitz-TR centos
[03:10] schestowitz-TR the dying os
[03:10] you trust redhat suits you right
[03:11] schestowitz-TR tessier was good at centos
[03:11] schestowitz-TR so it was his choice
[03:11] everyone knows the best server is debian
[03:11] schestowitz-TR it used to be on debian until 2013, gentoo in the early days
[03:12] distrowatch is using debian
[03:13] MinceR deadian used to be a good server, but that was long ago
[03:13] MinceR before they gave up everything debian was about
[03:14] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme
[03:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/former-dhs-acting-it-chief-convicted-in-software-database-theft-scheme
[03:14] TR Bot Former DHS Acting IT Chief Convicted in Software, Database Theft Scheme
[03:14] MX linux
[03:15] mexican linux holle
[03:16] it doesn't sport systemd
[03:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm back on Fedora.
[03:20] DaemonFC 36 seems to run well on this computer.
[03:21] isnt it at 42?
[03:21] DaemonFC GNOME? Yes.
[03:21] ha okay
[03:22] luxury OS for ya
[03:22] chunky guys i am sorry for my past behavior
[03:23] chunky really hope u can find it in your hearts to forgive me
[03:23] chunky i am a good person
[03:23] gnome tablet od on the desktop ?
[03:23] DaemonFC https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99
[03:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/99
[03:23] TR Bot Firefox 99 for developers - Mozilla | MDN
[03:23] IM NOT
[03:23] DaemonFC No notable changed to the web platform in Firefox 99.
[03:24] psydruid
[03:24] kingoffrance i dont believe there's such a thing as good people, but you are forgiven chunky lol
[03:24] gnome is a WM designed for a tablet
[03:24] chunky ty kingoffrance what a big heart u must have to say something like that
[03:25] kingoffrance no, no heart
[03:25] chunky damn, how does your blood get pumped?
[03:25] kingoffrance caffeine
[03:25] chunky that's cool
[03:25] chunky sounds like new technology
[03:26] get a room
[03:28] schestowitz-TR I think (THINK!) I might manage to repair the existing 'broken' DB
[03:28] schestowitz-TR with myisamchk
[03:29] schestowitz-TR but even if I did, not too sure I'd trust its integrity after this repair, unlike older backups which predate the incident
[03:30] psydruid how much data are we talking about here?
[03:30] schestowitz-TR 470mb compressed
[03:31] psydruid that isn't a lot, but I'm not that familiar with mysql
[03:31] schestowitz-TR this is rather old mysql
[03:31] schestowitz-TR but then again the DB was populated since 2004
[03:31] schestowitz-TR I was a student back then
[03:32] psydruid my experience is mostly with oracle at a former employer, one of the major data integration companies
[03:33] psydruid and postgres more recently
[03:33] schestowitz-TR this repair operation did not help
[03:33] try it on windows :D
[03:33] schestowitz-TR I can access everything OK only if I am logged in
[03:33] psydruid the tools don't work?
[03:35] kingoffrance we cant get a room, mincer doesnt believe in rooms, everyone is supposed to delphi technique synthesize
[03:35] kingoffrance and with that i bid you adieu
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[03:38] psydruid maybe you have to set the permissions correctly
[03:38] psydruid but using myisam isn't really recommended
[03:38] schestowitz-TR no, it seems to have been caused by a bad write
[03:39] schestowitz-TR which messes up a table
[03:39] psydruid I thought everything ws innodb for years
[03:39] schestowitz-TR and makes recovery hard or impossible
[03:39] psydruid do you have a backup that you know is good?
[03:40] schestowitz-TR yes
[03:40] schestowitz-TR but it would be nice to upgrade the whole system
[03:40] schestowitz-TR while we're at it
[03:40] schestowitz-TR I've put the site in offline mode to prevent confusion
[03:40] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/
[03:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/11/symantec-says-that-hackers-distributed-a-modified-version-of-vlc-and-exploited-it-for-malware-attacks/
[03:40] TR Bot Symantec says that hackers distributed a modified version of VLC and exploited it for malware attacks - gHacks Tech News
[03:41] schestowitz-TR Windows users downloading exe and msi files?
[03:43] psydruid and what cms are you using? Drupal?
[03:43] schestowitz-TR yes
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[03:46] psydruid I see that Drupal supports Postgres in addition to MySQL now
[03:46] schestowitz-TR yes, but moving upwards in drupal versions renders lots of stuff obsolete
[03:47] matey i see that drupal is self-hosted, nice
[03:48] matey (its also in the fsd fork)
[03:48] matey SO MUCH OF WHICH is fucking cpan (this isnt cpans fault-- if indeed it is anyones)
[03:49] matey i made another little automated tool to help me manage all of that
[03:49] matey its not really "automated", it just does most of the work for me
[03:49] matey mostly automated
[03:50] psydruid which version of Drupal are you currently on?
[03:50] matey i spent about 30 minutes making it, it already saved me 2 or 3 hours, and that was less than 2 or 3 hours ago
[03:51] matey oh im not using drupal, sorry
[03:51] psydruid neither am I
[03:51] matey what i meant was, if you fork the fsd
[03:51] psydruid I've never even used it
[03:51] matey and you remove projects that dont meet its rather strict criteria
[03:51] matey drupal is still there
[03:51] matey both hypothetically and actually
[03:51] psydruid I'm just trying to understand what the situation is
[03:52] matey what situation exactly?
[03:52] matey with drupal adding support?
[03:52] matey for postgres?
[03:53] psydruid mysql data dump from a mysql myisam database that seems corrupt and can't be moved to something like postgres, because the drupal cms is an older version
[03:53] chunky hacked your site
[03:54] psydruid newer versions of drupal have removed support for certain things, so moving to them is not an option
[03:54] psydruid that's my understanding at present
[03:54] schestowitz-TR I am rebuilding the index
[03:54] chunky : woah there, that's not true and a serious accusation!!
[03:54] schestowitz-TR seems promising
[03:54] matey oh that sucks
[03:54] matey do you suspect foul play?
[03:54] schestowitz-TR like I said before, even if I FIX the existing thing, I would not trust its integrity going foward
[03:55] schestowitz-TR not without tons of testing
[03:55] matey /me is asking psydroid because he isnt sure what roy is talking about is even related yet
[03:55] matey though it could be the same thing
[03:56] * Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 3
[03:56] schestowitz-TR 17,000,000 data records in search index
[03:56] psydruid no foul play, just not great technology
[03:57] schestowitz-TR psydruid: just throwing out there this remark, ymmv
[03:57] schestowitz-TR techdirt moved to wordpress last month
[03:57] schestowitz-TR they were anxious to migrate
[03:57] schestowitz-TR not sure what they used before
[03:57] schestowitz-TR techdirt goes back to the 1990s
[03:57] matey "just not great technology" when technology gets worse, i dont rule out foul play until i come up with a better explanation :)
[03:57] matey only because ive learned its fucking common
[03:57] schestowitz-TR running sites for this long is very hard, without "overhaul", as technology changes far too fast
[03:58] matey techdirt moved to wordpress last month <- masochism?
[03:58] matey technology changes far too fast <- technology tends to change more slowly if you keep things simple
[03:58] schestowitz-TR php may not work after a version bump, OSes deprecate support for "old" things, some projects get abandoned, so no security fixes
[03:58] matey /me hasnt considered php stable since it turned into a langauge he cant figure out how to use
[03:59] schestowitz-TR meh
[03:59] matey /me used to code in php (though nothing extensive)
[03:59] schestowitz-TR even after this long repair process it still does not work :/
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[04:00] matey php was so simple you could mock it for its simplicity, and people did
[04:00] matey then they fixed it.
[04:00] matey /me wouldnt know how to follow
[04:01] matey i used to be able to make a really simple guestbook in php in minutes
[04:01] matey i can still do it in python
[04:01] chunky that guy sure didn't seem to like me!
[04:02] matey i think half the people here consider you a troll
[04:02] psydruid is rainian
[04:02] matey though thats just my impression
[04:02] chunky i'll have to do some public image repairing around here
[04:02] chunky i've gone TOO FAR this time
[04:02] matey rofl
[04:02] psydruid I consider him a dead troll
[04:02] chunky that sounds menacing
[04:03] psydruid I just need to write some patches to add ignore functionality in XMPP clients
[04:03] psydruid not menacing, just dead
[04:04] chunky please do not hurt me :(
[04:04] chunky i swear i'm alright
[04:04] matey pipelines make things too fucking easy
[04:04] chunky i just got caught up the meme
[04:04] psydruid it's too late for that now
[04:04] psydruid try in your next life
[04:04] matey :)
[04:04] matey whats something you like and something you dislike
[04:05] matey i will judge you for the next 100 years based on the answer (or not)
[04:05] chunky i like freebsd, i hate windows
[04:05] matey its a start
[04:05] chunky wait can i change my answer
[04:05] chunky let me edit
[04:05] chunky s/windows/microsoft
[04:06] matey even better would be s/windows/windows and microsoft/
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[04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives
[04:06] chunky microsoft covers a great many thing
[04:06] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:06] chunky getting angry rn thinking about how microsoft owns github
[04:06] matey it covers too much (though thats not your fault)
[04:06] chunky brb gotta pace around the room for 3-8 minutes
[04:06] matey /me knows hes taking the piss
[04:06] chunky ;D
[04:07] chunky yeah i don't feel too much anger but i sincerely dislike microsoft's history of abuse
[04:07] chunky and i don't see how them controlling the open source dev ecosystem is good for anyone
[04:07] matey theyre a bit crap
[04:07] chunky it's gonna flop on everyone
[04:07] matey open source was always a scam imo
[04:07] matey though the prehistory and VERY early history im still unsure on
[04:07] chunky the wrong people were definitely in charge of the freedom movement
[04:07] matey not because im unfamiliar, some of it remains a mystery
[04:07] chunky stallman has basically sabotaged it w/o trying
[04:07] chunky just by being himself
[04:08] chunky i think the guy is a genius but he should have delegated the public figure stuff
[04:08] matey i mean youve got it backwards but
[04:08] psydruid microsoft only looks big because people allow it to look big
[04:08] matey i dont think its his public figure that has done the real damage tbh
[04:08] matey though its a common scapegoat
[04:08] psydruid in reality they are nothing and their solutions don't even work
[04:08] schestowitz-TR the size is not the issue
[04:08] schestowitz-TR it's the behaviour
[04:08] psydruid or not for long
[04:08] chunky github works fine because microsoft didn't build it
[04:08] chunky but they are screwing it up fairly quickly
[04:09] schestowitz-TR they are
[04:09] matey the size is not the issue <- it's the behaviour <- if you mean github, the two are definitely related
[04:09] psydruid microsoft could be ousted from every organization within a few years at most, but there are microsoft moles who keep it in place for selfish gains
[04:09] matey monopoly behaves like a monopoly
[04:09] matey monopoly becomes monopoly by behaving like one
[04:10] matey the size is a product of the monopoly
[04:10] chunky microsoft owning github and the most popular text editor on the market is a bad thing, they've fooled a lot of new and old devs alike by virtue signalling about how much they love open source
[04:10] matey and the most popular text editor on the market <- which?
[04:10] chunky "microsoft is good now!!!" jslover34
[04:11] psydruid I consider the devs the fools and make no excuses for them
[04:11] matey ^
[04:11] matey call me sentimental, i want projects run by people who give a shit about my freedom
[04:11] chunky that's pretty fair psydruid but ultimately everyone suffers for it
[04:11] matey people who hold the door open for microsoft are no better for free software than people who held the door open for the early january coup are for america
[04:11] psydruid if you are a good dev you can create anything from scratch given enough resources
[04:12] chunky and i think a lot of devs could be convinced to not prop up microsoft if they even had a clue about it
[04:12] chunky but most people just want to get stuff done and use the popular/available tools for the job
[04:12] matey which text editor is the most popular on the market?
[04:12] chunky vscode
[04:12] matey hehehe
[04:12] chunky and it's barely even open source
[04:12] chunky all the good features are proprietary plugins by microsoft
[04:13] chunky they've taken everyone for absolute fools!
[04:13] matey its what they do best
[04:14] psydruid I've avoided anything from microsoft for decades
[04:14] psydruid you never use it and don't become dependent on it
[04:15] chunky yeah i don't use any of their products
[04:15] psydruid but I understand the market has changed and embraced all of these "freebies"
[04:15] psydruid especially in "hip" fields like web development
[04:17] schestowitz-TR psydruid: I will try another pair of recovery modes, but failing that we can always recover fully, manually, though i assume Ariadne is afk (it would be better to also move to a newer OS while at it; should not be hard technically
[04:17] chunky i do a bit of webdev and there's absolutely no reason to use m$ products
[04:18] chunky the one good thing microsoft did was create LSP
[04:20] matey /me can access techrights.org, the wiki and an article, wonders whats down
[04:20] chunky maybe if it were hosted on azure it would be working fine
[04:20] matey granted its an old article and i didnt check any links on the front page
[04:20] *chunky runs away FAST
[04:21] psydruid schestowitz-TR, I think it would be better to get Ariadne involved when available, because it's about several things I am not familiar with
[04:21] matey maybe if it were hosted on azure <- maybe if it were written on a macbook :)
[04:21] chunky hahahaha
[04:21] matey /me wonders what the linux-killing foundation uses for a server
[04:21] psydruid never used Azure or Oracle Cloud, only IBM Cloud with free credits
[04:22] matey i wonder if anyone has ever used a pickup truck chassis in a "server room"
[04:22] psydruid they all want that credit card info that I don't have
[04:22] psydruid at least not anymore
[04:22] matey either for bitcoin mining, or even an actual server (this would probably be in texas or something)
[04:23] matey its hard to imagine no one else has thought of it at least
[04:23] chunky i have to use google cloud stuff for work
[04:23] matey "why a pickup truck chassis?"
[04:23] matey "i mean, yknow, it was just sittin there"
[04:23] matey "and theyre real sturdy, so i just put the servers up on that on cinder blocks, an there ya go"
[04:24] matey "what kind of rack is that?"
[04:24] matey "its an old chevy"
[04:26] schestowitz-TR psydruid: yes, she's very helpful and better than me at those things
[04:29] matey psydruid: do you know whats actually down? its a mystery to me
[04:30] psydruid matey, one of the sites has a corrupt database, so it's offline now
[04:30] matey ust be tuxmachines, techrights seems fine
[04:31] matey ah yes, tuxmachines is doing 503
[04:33] chunky men of culture idb (in dis bitch)
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[04:44] matey kingoffrance no, as your punishment you must write 200 pages single spaced defining "state" and "rights" and "person" and "human" and "property" and "family" and how abolishing the "state" will magically lead to a coherent system instead of just meaningless gibberish and more confusion of tongues <- i knew it would come to this
[04:45] matey thats a terrible setup, it would be more coherent in less than 200 pages and its only going to be padded with more of the same problem
[04:48] matey "hai is shark in german" <- shark exists. man boat mein. boat paina mein. shark paina mein. humira shark.
[04:49] matey s/paina/pani
[04:49] matey i knew that was wrong
[04:49] matey main ishaan hoon
[04:53] psydruid haai is Dutch for German Hai
[04:54] psydruid main sochta hun ki hindi mein boat ko "kishti" bolte hain
[04:54] matey hmm
[04:55] matey distrowatch is using debian <- funny, i was sure they said they used bsd (freebsd?) and i used to think "good luck with that"
[04:55] matey /me doubts they use debian, but maybe its possible
[04:58] chunky what's wrong w/ freebsd?
[04:58] chunky i use it
[04:58] psydruid aur shark ko "grah", lekin ye shabd mujhe malum nahin tha
[04:58] matey what's wrong w/ freebsd? <- this was years before i switched to bsd, and figured they were makings things difficult for themselves
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[05:00] psydruid FreeBSD used to not fix bugs for years according to what some people told me, but I haven't had problems with 13.0 running on an older laptop
[05:00] matey /me gets "hangar" and "sark" for m / f hindi
[05:01] psydruid that is, until the hard drive broke
[05:01] matey my limited experience with freebsd was mostly positive
[05:01] matey t was my first bsd really
[05:01] psydruid it was for me too
[05:02] psydruid but it also depends on your hardware
[05:02] matey i would use it before midnightbsd :)
[05:02] matey it also depends on your hardwar <- hence "mostly" as it didnt install on the laptop
[05:02] matey surprisingly, openbsd did
[05:02] psydruid and after midnightbsd?
[05:02] matey after midnightbsd of course i would run dd
[05:03] psydruid OpenBSD installs on almost anything I've thrown at it
[05:03] matey i know someone who had trouble getting it onto an sbc
[05:03] matey lack of documentation
[05:03] psydruid I thought it would be something like earlymorningbsd or ghostbsd :)
[05:04] matey midnightbsd is both github based and a stallman backstabber
[05:04] psydruid yes, ARM support is a weakness
[05:04] matey i sometimes confuse it with mirbsd but im 85% certain mir is the good one
[05:04] psydruid I talked to some OpenBSD people this weekend
[05:04] matey nice, howd that go
[05:05] psydruid I think NetBSD is more suitable for ARM SBCs
[05:05] psydruid well, it was more of a general discussion
[05:06] matey I think NetBSD is more suitable for ARM SBCs <- thats what they went for instead
[05:06] matey on the sbc
[05:07] matey where kajol gets her cute from https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aR3wrIa1Iis
[05:07] TR Bot Raat Akeli Hai, Bhuj Gaye Diye(HQ) JEWEL THIEF (1967) - Invidious
[05:10] psydruid I don't know so much about that era of film and music
[05:10] matey but im sure youve seen kajol in something
[05:11] matey probably with shah rukh khan
[05:11] psydruid yes, I know her
[05:11] matey thats her mother
[05:11] matey from "jewel thief"
[05:13] matey whats funnier (imo) is that kajol played someone named anjeli opposite a girl named angeli and in jewel thief her mother is also named angeli
[05:13] psydruid sometimes I'm wondering if people in our family would have ended up in film and music if we had stayed in india
[05:13] matey or anjuli
[05:14] matey i dont know, it seems like the most common jobs are doctor, pharmacy, entertainment and it
[05:14] psydruid my grandparents were touring musicians long before I was born
[05:14] matey even if those are also stereotypes
[05:14] psydruid and also involved in theatre
[05:15] matey i never wanted to play the flute, but the tiny brass indian ones sound so fucking beautiful
[05:15] matey i think a lot of it is probably the style
[05:15] psydruid sometimes I find some of their music such as folk songs on youtube
[05:16] matey thats awesome
[05:16] psydruid recently even someone from india told me they know some of my relatives from suriname
[05:17] matey the internet definitely makes the world smaller
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[05:21] psydruid my generation is really the first in my family that had the opportunity to go to university, so becoming a doctor or an engineer wasn't really an option
[05:21] matey of course
[05:21] matey its like that for so many
[05:23] matey by the way if you see a good movie (or any movie) on t-series let me know-- i dont do netflix
[05:23] matey ive seen a bunch of them
[05:23] matey same for any other channel, if you watch movies at all i mean
[05:23] psydruid I do, but I don't watch that many
[05:24] matey i dont watch that many, though i try to
[05:24] matey subtitles arent important. sometimes i find them distracting but theyre not a dealbreaker
[05:24] matey theyre probably in 1/3 of what i watch
[05:25] psydruid with the number of languages I speak hindi movies are a small part of what I watch, although I do enjoy them at times
[05:25] matey of course
[05:26] matey and i never bother with english movies at all, not in years
[05:26] psydruid there are many older films also from shemaroo and yash raj
[05:26] matey i passionately hate hollywood
[05:26] matey i love yashraj
[05:27] psydruid I saw quite a mix of movies at film festivals
[05:27] psydruid I watch very little in the way of hollywood
[05:27] matey ive apart from the fact that the past 10-20 years are recycled everything
[05:27] psydruid it's all so hollow and inane
[05:27] matey i think to some degree thats true of bollywood too
[05:28] psydruid yes
[05:28] matey hollywood is like going to the mafia for entertainment
[05:28] matey as long as you have cash and never do anything they dont like, youre fine
[05:28] psydruid I've probably watched just as many Iranian movies over the years
[05:28] matey but you hear stories about what happens to other people, and youre like wtf
[05:28] psydruid which are not on netflix
[05:29] matey ive watched netflix just enough to be familiar with it
[05:29] matey but of course i dont own anything capable of playing it and ive never paid them for anything
[05:29] matey but ive lived with people who had it before
[05:29] psydruid I've never paid for it either
[05:30] matey i havent seen it in years, but ive binge watched stuff on it
[05:30] matey when people i know have technology id never want to own
[05:30] matey ill often play with it a couple times to get an idea
[05:31] matey ive used an xbox with the face recognition thing. i put something over my head too.
[05:31] matey i looked like the robot guy from the lmfao video
[05:32] psydruid it's just that you look for something on Netflix and you can't find anything
[05:32] matey granted ive only used an xbox about 3 times
[05:32] psydruid lol
[05:32] matey no, one of the experiences i had with netflix was that anything that was really good, they would pull after a few months!
[05:32] matey then they added commercials (that was after i stopped watching)
[05:32] matey and you pay them, to watch commercials
[05:32] matey wtf?
[05:33] psydruid movies from "unapproved country" in "unapproved language"
[05:33] psydruid zero results
[05:33] psydruid oh wow
[05:33] matey yeah thats when i deleted my youtube account
[05:33] matey when they started doing country restrictions i was like "you broke the internet, bye"
[05:34] matey didnt go back for years, then they wanted a phone number, so of course i didnt bother
[05:34] psydruid you can still get phone numbers without registration here
[05:34] matey sure
[05:34] psydruid but it's almost impossible anywhere else
[05:34] matey but its none of googles fucking business
[05:34] activelow don't ask what the remaining www experience is with netsurf-gtk gui browser and no other remaining
[05:34] psydruid yes
[05:35] matey which is only true by figure of speech, because of course googles business is literally being a nosy fuck
[05:35] matey i think weve all seen what the web is like with netsurf-gtk
[05:36] activelow yet i must admit, the remaining content is rather pleasent, no advertisements, no tracking, no cookies, no js, none of this
[05:36] psydruid I had my gmail account "recovered" a few days ago and they were asking for a current phone number, which I hadn't set
[05:36] matey google is terrible, i wouldnt host shit there
[05:37] psydruid if it doesn't work in netsurf, I consider it broken
[05:37] matey theres still some js worth loading (not a lot) and i have yet to see netsurf load any of it
[05:37] psydruid I have different e-mail addresses for different purposes
[05:37] activelow netsurf does implement the relevant w3c standards, these are _not_ obsolete, it is the content which doesn't recognize those standards anymore
[05:37] matey theres a js feature, aka crash instantly feature
[05:38] matey is netsurf to blame? probably. is pledge to blame? possibly
[05:38] activelow yes, too, with the w3c standards netsurf does implement, modern features including multimedia were possible too, yet GAFAM chose to implement theirs violating those w3c standards
[05:38] matey pledge is awesome but they wanted to get it working on ff simply because its basically a miracle
[05:38] matey and they did it
[05:39] matey sometimes you cant go to about:preferences but maybe thats reveal (which is less hardcoded anyway afaik)
[05:39] matey this is research of course-- its less of a product
[05:39] matey which is mostly a good thing, most of the time
[05:40] matey linus says fapping monkeys, but corporations fap all the time as well
[05:40] matey only difference is that openbsd cleans up after and corporations do it in your face
[05:40] matey like systemd isnt the biggest fap of all time
[05:41] matey jesus lennart, where i can go to get out of the line of fire?
[05:41] matey gentoo, here is your umbrella
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[05:49] matey raat akeli hai (american version... not really) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C5TaeDhPUQQ
[05:49] TR Bot Lonely Is The Night - Invidious
[05:51] psydruid https://lateblt.livejournal.com/413260.html
[05:51] TR Bot My take on "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy": lateblt LiveJournal
[05:55] matey abolishing private property would be better than letting the corporations abolish personal property
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[05:55] matey and if everything is smart and controlled with drm, theres is no personal property
[05:56] matey your car, your computer, your stereo, your air conditioner, your appliances, everything is leased from the company that makes it
[05:56] matey theyre trying to absolish personal property, and keep private property
[05:57] matey when people realise that, they will be less upset about abolishing private property
[05:57] matey realising that the ultimately outcome of private property is that corporations own everything, and people own nothing at all
[05:58] matey thats the direction weve been headed in since steve ballmer ran microsoft
[05:58] matey steve ballmer didnt manage to get microsoft into the cloud
[05:58] matey but he set the wheels in motion. now hes one of the 10 richest people on earth. not exactly the image of a failure, even if he is insane
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[05:59] matey where weve gotten to, at the hands of capitalism is basically this
[05:59] matey you can have 99% of the world own everything, OR
[05:59] matey you can have 1% of 1% of the world own everything
[05:59] matey pick one. there should be a third option-- theyve already gotten rid of it.
[05:59] matey so pick one.
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[06:00] matey when enough people realise those are the choices, theyre going to choose to abolish private property, so that personal property isnt abolished
[06:00] psydruid I don't think people are aware of the extent to which they're being taken for a ride
[06:00] matey of course not
[06:00] matey the ride wouldnt last if people saw where it was going
[06:01] matey software is a microcosm of this
[06:01] psydruid or if they are aware if of they don't know what to do about it
[06:01] matey people like mincer assume its hopeless
[06:01] psydruid of it*
[06:01] matey based o failures that are put in a context that makes the good ideas seem the same as the bad ideas
[06:01] matey theyre completely separate ideas
[06:01] psydruid I'll keep fighting until the very end
[06:02] psydruid at least until my end
[06:02] psydruid but that's me
[06:02] matey unions arent the answer
[06:02] matey but theyre a step in the right direction
[06:02] matey a necessary step
[06:04] matey recent: https://nitter.fdn.fr/MITGradUnion
[06:04] TR Bot MIT Graduate Student Union (@MITGradUnion) | FDNitter
[06:04] psydruid if what is happening in Ukraine and happened in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan before is a sign of what is to come, we'll have more of the same elsewhere soon
[06:05] matey war can only get so bullshit until the military itself pushes for change
[06:05] matey and not from the top down
[06:05] matey and not necessarily in a violent coup per se
[06:05] matey of course it would be incredibly naive to think that everythings going to be gandhi and sitins
[06:06] matey but for example, consider the american revolution
[06:06] TR News "Moving on from legacy BIOS and Xorg, Raspberry Pi OS finally catches up with security basics, the UK government give us more reasons to be angry, the usual KDE goodness, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-172/
[06:06] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 172 Late Night Linux
[06:06] psydruid I think that was rather a historical anomaly
[06:06] matey it really isnt, it just looks like one
[06:06] matey once you manage to put it in context of other things, it makes sense
[06:06] matey and paints SOME hope for the future
[06:07] matey im a pessimist, however
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[06:07] psydruid I meant the peace we have right now
[06:07] matey im a pessimist constantly on the lookout for reasons to avoid being a nihilist
[06:07] matey and things are bad right now.
[06:07] matey but the thing is, the american revolution wasnt america attacking britain
[06:08] matey they got together and simply said "no more"
[06:08] matey no fucking more
[06:08] matey and britain said "ok, then we will attack you"
[06:08] matey and america fought back
[06:08] matey this of course, is an incredibly oversimplification
[06:08] matey but if you want to win a revolution, you dont START the fight
[06:08] psydruid we need more of that attitude now
[06:08] matey you start living the way you should live, and the fight will come to you
[06:09] matey more people should read about the russian revolution
[06:09] matey not because it will be the same
[06:09] matey revolutions arent cookie cutter, theyre incredibly depedendent on context
[06:09] matey other revolutions dont look the same
[06:09] matey no two are identical
[06:09] matey or whoever said history doesnt repeat itself, but it often rhymes
[06:10] matey youll know when revolution is here because everyone will be talking about it
[06:10] matey openly
[06:10] schestowitz-TR we are building a test machine for tuxmachines
[06:10] matey but if you look around, people are talking more and more
[06:10] matey everywhere
[06:10] schestowitz-TR devuan probably, might export to gemini also (160,000+ pages)
[06:13] matey one of the most important things for people to understand about revolution isnt even revolution
[06:13] matey but what counterrevolution looks like
[06:13] matey for free software, counterrevolution looks like (is) open source
[06:13] matey but history is full of counterrevolution
[06:13] schestowitz-TR maybe not initially
[06:13] schestowitz-TR OSI
[06:14] matey the conditions that led to stalinism and the conditions that led to the osi you see today are similar
[06:14] matey stalin, funnily enough, wasnt originally hitler
[06:14] matey he was originally just kind of a cunt
[06:15] matey like esr he was jealous of people like lenin and trotsky
[06:15] matey ultimately he had all the bolsheviks murdered
[06:15] matey the people who created the revolution, who won it-- he knew they were the greatest threat to his bureaucracy
[06:16] matey and at some point the bureaucracy became more important than the workers
[06:16] matey and once that happens, the workers are the threat
[06:16] matey stalin created a monster out of himself
[06:17] psydruid that's where we seem to be at when it comes to free^Wopen source software
[06:17] matey starved and murdered millions
[06:17] matey well at least esr isnt at the helm of this monstrosity
[06:17] matey but the "modest" beginnings of osi (which within one year were running off the track, if we believe perens in his 1999 letteR)
[06:18] matey had already co-opted free software
[06:18] matey and ive always tried to understand why
[06:18] matey ive spent years trying to come up with some reason other than "esr was jealous"
[06:18] matey ive looked at pretty much every story on techrights too
[06:18] matey minus the epo stuff
[06:19] matey ive even talked to esr
[06:19] matey stalins rise to power started modest-- and with jealous
[06:19] matey jealousy
[06:20] matey and it led to a chain reaction of sacrifices of good for less good
[06:20] matey leading to one of the most terrible governments in the history of civilisation
[06:20] matey by far
[06:20] psydruid esr's claim to fame was more important than letting free software thrive?
[06:21] matey and almost certainly inspiring the only ones that were worse (on a competing scale at least)
[06:21] matey esr's claim to fame was more important than letting free software thrive? <- almost beyond any doubt
[06:21] matey id LOVE a better theory
[06:21] TR News Keeping algae in check with a DIY pond monitor | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/12/keeping-algae-in-check-with-a-diy-pond-monitor/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
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[06:21] matey because if the truth comes down to something that petty, no one believes it
[06:21] TR Bot Keeping algae in check with a DIY pond monitor | Arduino Blog
[06:21] matey now this isnt openbsd, this is ORIGINAL bsd history
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[06:22] psydruid wasn't he put there as a puppet for the closed source software industry?
[06:22] matey kirk mckusick of bsd and freebsd
[06:22] SomeH4x0r hi
[06:22] schestowitz-TR 0.
[06:22] matey says of linus
[06:23] matey linus said that if bsd had been available (at&t lawsuit etc)
[06:23] matey he wouldnt have written linux
[06:23] matey but then by the time bsd was freely available, linux was a thing
[06:23] psydruid
[06:23] matey and i think mckusick was sort of joking that at that point he could have simply ported / adapted a better (bsd) kernel instead
[06:23] matey but by then it was running on its own steam
[06:24] matey so today we have this... i mean you can see what linux is not
[06:24] matey is now ^
[06:24] matey its a sort of corporate gangbang now
[06:24] psydruid a nice throwaway kernel
[06:24] matey fsvo nice
[06:24] psydruid lol
[06:25] matey but linux and open source (hand in hand) were absolutely a counterrevolution
[06:25] psydruid I think linux may get abandoned before any of the less corporate kernels
[06:25] matey and i think both open source and the kernel are the way they are because of ego stuff
[06:25] matey and i mean ego stuff is common
[06:25] psydruid even illumos may outlive it at some point
[06:25] matey but the level of... fuckery
[06:26] matey i cant imagine illumos ever being relevant, but you know a lot more about this shit than i do
[06:27] matey i originally turned my nose up at mp3 because id always wanted flac
[06:27] matey and except for a couple experiments, ive simply never used flac
[06:27] psydruid it still does quite a few things better than gnu/linux does, but its footprint is too large
[06:27] matey but when mp3 came out i was like "bah, why"
[06:27] psydruid so while gnu/linux ballooned, so did Illumos
[06:27] matey flac is the ccompressed music i imagined before it existed
[06:27] matey not mp3
[06:28] matey its footprint is too larg <- linux is already a beat
[06:28] matey beast
[06:28] matey i mean we should be able to port software to tiny things
[06:28] matey maybe not internet of trash tiny
[06:28] psydruid I only created mp3s on a per case basis
[06:28] matey but you know, we should be able to use the same os on a router and a mainframe really
[06:29] psydruid now there isn't a point anymore
[06:29] matey whether its the best option is another matter
[06:29] psydruid linux is also becoming too large, which us natural
[06:29] matey i dont think natural is the right word
[06:29] matey maybe you mean typical
[06:30] psydruid but therefore other things will take its place
[06:30] matey some projects stay small without being abandoned
[06:30] psydruid well, typical is probably the right word
[06:30] psydruid but it happens even to BSD kernels
[06:30] matey sure, you can bastardise bsd like anything else
[06:31] matey how the ecosystem works around that is what matters
[06:31] psydruid OpenBSD kernels have grown in size too over the years
[06:31] matey i know stallman hates that word. if he cant offer a replacement and the concept is useful then its too fucking bad
[06:32] matey OpenBSD kernels have grown in size too over the years <- of course
[06:32] matey but its not a dumping ground the way that linux is
[06:32] matey and if it was, someone would (hopefully) fork it into a non-dumping ground
[06:33] matey the thing i worry about most is whether its forkable
[06:33] psydruid I think the world needed at least one dumping ground
[06:33] matey if its forkable you can salvage it, if its forkable you have freedom 3
[06:33] matey if its pretend-forkable like a lot of gnu, theres no freedom 3, its imaginary
[06:33] psydruid that doesn't mean we should all use that dumping ground
[06:33] matey I think the world needed at least one dumping ground <- windows isnt good enough?
[06:34] psydruid unfortunately not
[06:34] matey the harder it is to fork, the more doomed it is
[06:34] psydruid it doesn't even meet Linux's already low standards
[06:35] matey this is basic freedom 3, but from an angle the fsf gets wrong
[06:35] matey so they fail to protect freedom 3, even while demanding it in theory
[06:36] matey they have a piece of paper that says you have freedom 3 on paper
[06:36] matey but you cant find freedom 3 in the wild
[06:36] matey you just have to trust god
[06:36] matey stallmans an atheist, he should know better
[06:37] matey freedom 0, freedom 1, freedom 2 and faith 3
[06:37] psydruid it looks like going to trial in a sham court
[06:38] matey one guy in here says he knows some people who forked the linux kernel so maybe im wrong
[06:38] psydruid as long as you can parrot the freedoms you are free to live as a parrot
[06:38] matey but i dont think the world is going to see a linux fork
[06:38] psydruid I hope the world will see many linux forks
[06:38] psydruid but I don't think it's going to happen
[06:39] matey the thing is, if you have something thats underrated and easy to fork
[06:39] matey and you have something thats overrated and really difficult to fork
[06:39] matey its not hard to guess whats going to happen in terms of forks later on
[06:39] activelow OpenBSD switched to llvm/clang
[06:39] psydruid other than the "forks" that already exist on current kernel developers' drives
[06:39] matey i think everyone is going to switch to llvm/clang. i am not saying this as a fan.
[06:40] matey i taught someone how to use gcc recently
[06:40] matey theyve used it since then
[06:40] activelow a kernel which can be compiled with a c++ compiler only (llvm is a c++ compiler, written in c++), no thanks
[06:40] activelow and the BSD pushed aggresively towards llvm, linux too
[06:41] matey i wonder when c became impossibly bloated under our noses really
[06:41] matey another mystery
[06:41] psydruid I think it's going to happen too
[06:41] psydruid but for reasons of hackability
[06:41] matey mincer will like my associates quote "bloat is sort of like the state"
[06:42] activelow C itself, although troublesome, isn't impossibly; it is the compilers, with a demaracation line drawn at C11 features
[06:43] activelow *isn't impossibly bloated
[06:43] matey actually it was "bloat is a lot like the state, really."
[06:44] matey "it is the compilers" first it is the compilers
[06:44] matey then it is the compiled programs
[06:44] matey then the language changes
[06:45] matey we can use sane languages while programs are written in them
[06:45] matey then when programs shift towards insane languages, so do we
[06:45] matey and its via the compilers but ultimately its the culture that shits itself
[06:45] matey the only solution is to fix the culture-- the software will echo the culture
[06:46] matey if the culture is sane the tools will be sane
[06:46] matey if not at first then as they are worked on
[06:46] matey and vice versa, if the culture is nuts, the tools will be ridiculous
[06:46] psydruid it's failure on multiple levels
[06:46] matey yes
[06:46] matey but tools always conform to culture, with exceptions that come and go
[06:47] matey tools can change culture, but only if culture is ready to make the mistake (or progress)
[06:47] matey culture is always at a crossroads
[06:47] matey sometimes it makes a good choice, other times it does something really stupid
[06:47] psydruid if no one documented how the first free software was developed people are doomed to reinvent it, because the process got lost
[06:47] matey youre talking about collective history
[06:48] matey which is one of the most important things about a culture
[06:48] matey its fucking nearly synonymous
[06:48] matey collective historical awareness
[06:48] matey has much more to do with the present than the past
[06:49] matey the past didnt just shape the present once
[06:49] matey it is constantly shaping the present
[06:49] matey the future also shapes the present
[06:49] matey although people dont think of it that way
[06:49] matey their perception of the future is constantly shaping the present
[06:50] matey but their perception of the past does at least as much
[06:50] matey if we dont understand the past, we fuck with the present and the future
[06:50] matey most of the most important information we have comes from the past
[06:50] psydruid if there were history books (unix v7, MINIX, bsd), you could go back and build a better future from there skipping over the present
[06:51] AdmFubar https://www.thedailybeast.com/psilocybin-magic-mushrooms-fight-depression-better-than-normal-medication-study-suggests?source=articles&via=rss
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[06:51] TR Bot Psilocybin Magic Mushrooms Fight Depression Better Than Normal Medication, Study Suggests
[06:51] matey history is very important
[06:51] matey the present is also somewhat important
[06:51] matey even now, people are making good decisions we can learn from
[06:51] matey but lots more people are making stupid decisions right now
[06:51] psydruid I consider gnu/linux a deadend
[06:51] matey we have to be able to tell the difference
[06:52] matey it is a dead end
[06:52] matey if i ran the world there would be a museum for gnu
[06:52] matey before they fuck it up any worse
[06:52] matey youd still be free to work on it of course
[06:52] matey ie to continue fucking it up
[06:52] matey its freely licensed
[06:53] matey then people would have a museum to look back on before it fucked itself
[06:53] matey before fucking half of it was run by fucking microsoft
[06:53] matey idiots
[06:53] matey seriously, idiots!
[06:54] matey dumb shit like this is what put stalin power
[06:54] matey in power
[06:54] psydruid gnu/linux has found a new home at microsoft and its abusive dad ibm
[06:54] matey big disasters always start with little stupid things
[06:54] matey like running windows on a fucking oil rig.
[06:54] matey an oil rig!
[06:54] matey and what happened, a fucking disaster
[06:55] matey running windows on hospital equipment
[06:55] matey so people see disasters like the deepwater horizon
[06:55] matey like hospital equipment fucking up
[06:55] matey and some stupid fuck at gnu says
[06:55] matey hey, ive got a great idea!
[06:55] matey lets trust these fuckwits with our gnu project!
[06:55] matey fucking stupid.
[06:55] matey its not even gnu at that point
[06:55] matey its just fucking dumb.
[06:55] psydruid systemdead at the hospital
[06:56] matey so yeah, build gnu a museum
[06:56] matey so people can see what it was before it was fucking stupid.
[06:56] psydruid humandead at the hospital
[06:56] chunky u use emacs + u suffer from jaundice + slipknot + u got a DNA test for all of ur children + u pay for spotify
[06:56] matey brb
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[06:57] matey at least gnu is making these mistakes in public
[06:57] matey where more people can learn from them
[06:57] matey too bad the public isnt more keen on learning
[06:57] matey too bad gnu isnt either
[06:58] matey "how to fuck up your revolution"
[06:58] matey stalin made a pact with hitler for fucks sake
[06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 55.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 81.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 349.48
[06:59] chunky "Sorry we had to shut down your oil rig for updates"
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[07:00] matey stalin wasnt the worst communist in history, but he almost certainly inspired (and was one of) the worst communists in history
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[07:00] matey the worst sorts of "communism" take many pages from him
[07:00] matey and they often get similar reults
[07:01] matey you see a lot of mistakes being made in free software
[07:01] matey ones that will destroy the movement for a while
[07:01] matey could take years to rebuild
[07:02] matey imo already has taken years. ive called systemd a cyberweapon against software freedom
[07:02] matey its certainly effective
[07:02] psydruid I hope some people eventually will do just that
[07:02] matey freedom matters
[07:02] chunky sometimes i wake up at night sweating thinking about how i use systemd and it makes me feel like i deserve to live in a sewage processing plant
[07:03] psydruid maybe the likes of alan cox and activelow
[07:03] matey and the answer isnt going pre-industrialist like pol pot wanted
[07:03] matey i have no faith in alan cox. dont hate him or anything
[07:03] matey he does some neat stuff
[07:03] matey but he also really doesnt give a shit
[07:03] matey so maybe someone who gives a shit can learn from his tech and apply it
[07:03] matey but cox wont lead anything
[07:03] matey he wont even follow anything
[07:04] matey cox personality wise reminds me so much of linus i think they must be close relatives
[07:05] matey most technologists dont give a shit about "other things"
[07:05] matey stallman does, thats too rare
[07:05] matey but free software is built on giving a shit about more than just tech
[07:05] matey open source is like "we get it. you dont care. neither do we. join us."
[07:06] psydruid it looks like most technologists care about some things
[07:06] matey sure, the thing about blanket statements is none of them are true :)
[07:06] psydruid like screwing over others for their personal gain
[07:06] matey i mean thats corporate culture
[07:06] psydruid even whole societies
[07:06] matey society is owned by corporations
[07:07] matey sure, the thing about blanket statements is none of them are true <- for kingoffrance
[07:08] psydruid "world economic forum" for "society"
[07:08] matey heh
[07:09] matey madmen and upper class twits
[07:09] psydruid makes me want to colonize mars to get away from all of these twats
[07:09] psydruid but mincer would say the problem is us humans
[07:11] chunky how can i cure my systemd dependence?
[07:11] psydruid you are on freebsd so you have no systemd
[07:12] matey mincer has run out of solutions
[07:12] matey with that said hes funny as hell and smarter than average
[07:12] matey being smart sucks
[07:12] matey it means you too often know how full of shit people are
[07:12] matey how bullshit so many things are
[07:12] matey being smart makes you more likely to feel depressed and hopeless
[07:13] matey as the same time, fighting that all your life can make you seriously fucking hilarious.
[07:13] matey or suicidal
[07:13] matey mincer is both
[07:13] matey hes an extremely funny person, and hes waiting for the entire species to kill itself
[07:13] matey suicide by proxy, times billions
[07:14] matey im not saying hes likely to off himself, just that he wouldnt say no to the entire species doing it
[07:14] matey but thats a KIND of suicidal.
[07:14] psydruid then he wins
[07:15] matey theres a talk that daniel quinn gave once called "the little engine that couldnt"
[07:15] matey which is very much a response to what mincer says
[07:15] chunky psydruid: i use arch on this machine
[07:15] matey but this idea that the human race itself is so fundamentally fucked that it cant justify its existence
[07:15] chunky i have a laptop w/ freebsd and i run it on any servers where i get to choose the OS
[07:15] matey humanity is still fucking young
[07:16] matey look at a toddler ffs
[07:16] matey how can a toddler justify its existence? its the centre of its own universe and simply destroys everything until it gets its way
[07:16] activelow there isn't any clean distribution remaining; not at least BaphometOS, which requires gcc-4.7 still
[07:16] matey then it carries on its reign of destruction, while crying, laughing and shitting everywhere
[07:17] matey and this grows into something that can give a shit about other people
[07:17] activelow nonetheless, my IRC box and firewall are already migrated to the c-only system profile of baphometos
[07:17] matey something that can reason and create and plan and make sense (sometimes)
[07:17] activelow meaning, if it can be fed into tinycc compiler, baphometos will be the _last_ remaining
[07:17] matey its very clear that humanity is in a toddler like state
[07:18] matey or maybe its teens
[07:18] matey and you know teen angst and teen suicide are very common themes
[07:18] matey humanity needs to grow up, and its trying
[07:18] activelow currently, baphometos is the last line of defense against gnu/linux/gcc and bsd/llvm distributions
[07:19] matey its hard to look at a pissed off teen whose life is going nowhere, and try to figure out what you can even do with such a person
[07:19] matey and yet some people manage just that
[07:19] matey i havent given up on humanity yet, though ive gotten awfully close a bunch of times
[07:19] matey to where im like "yeah, go ahead humanity, just kill yourself"
[07:20] matey but usually only for a day.
[07:20] matey i havent got that outlook like mincer does
[07:20] matey and yet i agree with him on like 95% of the problem
[07:20] matey its the rest of the picture that makes the world of difference
[07:21] matey the thing is, even mincer still sort of believes in human evolution as a concept
[07:21] matey but its obvious he barely manages to cling to it
[07:21] psydruid mincer loves minced meat
[07:22] matey i dont think ive ever had it
[07:22] matey unless it was an ingredient in something
[07:22] psydruid that was figuratively speaking
[07:23] matey im not hopeless about free software either
[07:23] matey its just that a lot of shits going to be very ugly
[07:23] psydruid one of the things I realized a long time ago is that you can't stop people from dying
[07:23] matey and i have no patiences for people polishing a golden turd
[07:23] psydruid I'm not pessimistic at all
[07:24] psydruid it's just that gnu/linux is an evolutionary dead end
[07:24] matey its missing freedom 3
[07:25] matey but it swears otherwise, so thats the same as actually having it
[07:25] activelow freedom 3, which was?
[07:25] psydruid but baphometos can save it and also humanity
[07:25] matey REALLY, YOU HAVE IT! LOOK AT THE LICENSE!
[07:25] psydruid and the galaxy
[07:25] matey i think baph is most useful as a tutorial
[07:25] matey and performance art
[07:25] matey if more people watched baph being made
[07:26] matey they woudl learn something
[07:26] matey it might change the way they do things
[07:26] matey this is about all the praise i can muster for something based on the linux kernel
[07:26] matey but im not being charitable
[07:26] matey and im not joking either
[07:30] psydruid you are being fair
[07:33] matey i always try to be fair
[07:33] matey its neither easy nor (imo) simple
[07:33] matey because people are fucked up, almost like mincer says
[07:33] matey almost
[07:33] matey also i didnt learn fairness from my parents
[07:34] matey i had to teach myself
[07:34] matey i mean everybody can be fair to themselves, except masochists
[07:34] matey simple, just give yourself loads of slack
[07:34] matey being fair to other people is tricky
[07:35] matey im using the word masochists as a joke, lots of people are actually really hard on themselves
[07:35] matey for various reasons
[07:35] matey suicide almost always happens to the wrong people
[07:36] matey its almost never the people who can really make the world a better place by doing that
[07:36] matey but lets say youre fair to yourself
[07:36] matey being fair to other people is usually the tricky bit
[07:37] SomeH4x0r could go to some corporation building and bomb oneself
[07:37] matey i dont think that would help much
[07:37] matey ive never seen much accomplished by people doing that either
[07:37] matey the best way to be a martyr is to get killed by someone other than yourself
[07:38] matey also martyrdom is not necessarily the best route to progress
[07:39] matey martyrs have get this idea that the best way to get progress is to figure out how much your life is worth
[07:39] matey and then they just try to cash that in on a one-time payment
[07:39] matey you can make an economic argument that its stupid. i think most people go for an argument that its insane
[07:39] matey but im sceptical that its the most useful course of action
[07:41] matey che guevara was a martyr, and imo roughly useless as a revolutionary
[07:41] matey he probably did everything wrong
[07:42] matey most revolutionaries that make any sense dont propose anything remotely like what he did
[07:42] matey starting out by resorting to violence in general is fucking stupid
[07:42] matey thats not the same as being pacifist
[07:43] matey somewhere between gandhi and che theres a good idea
[07:43] matey but theres an awful lot of ideas between gandhi and che
[07:44] matey gandhi was a bit of a charlatan
[07:44] matey a lot of people i know would laugh at the understatement
[07:45] matey i like thoreau and mlk
[07:46] matey thoreau inspired both gandhi and mlk, and one of the reasons he was a minimalist was "voluntary poverty" to avoid being taxed and having taxes go to wars he thought were bullshit
[07:46] matey not because he was a pacifist, afaik he just didnt like profiteering
[07:47] matey thoreau inspires a lot of my approach to software
[07:48] matey though so does one gandhi quote, from the movie, which may not even be his
[07:51] matey for whatever reason, gandhi pushed the importance of homespun fabric
[07:51] matey the mainstream western version of this is "buy local"
[07:53] matey i got so tired of stores using "buy local" as an opportunity to milk customer and craftmaker alike that i wanted to wear a parody shirt to mock it
[07:54] matey i wanted something to show two objects with quantum entanglement and for it to say "bi-local"
[07:54] matey but i didnt think people would get it was a protest, and i dont have shirts made very often
[07:54] matey it still would be a fun shirt though
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[07:55] matey people could say "oh, heh, like buy local and i could say "yes, except it actually means something"
[07:57] matey "On 23 December 2019, Drupal patched an arbitrary file upload flaw. The file-upload flaw affects Drupal 8.8.x before 8.8.1 and 8.7.x before 8.7.11, and the vulnerability is listed as moderately critical by Drupal."
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[07:59] matey "In late March 2018, a patch for vulnerability CVE-2018-7600, also dubbed Drupalgeddon2, was released. The underlying bug allows remote attackers without special roles or permissions to take complete control of Drupal 6, 7, and 8 sites."
[07:59] matey ouch
● Apr 12
[08:04] matey "Kris Buytaert is one of instigators of the devops movement and a long time Linux and Open Source Consultant."
[08:04] *activelow hasn't decided about a CMS yet
[08:04] matey he also signed the anti-rms letter
[08:04] activelow if a static site generator suffices, i'll choose this
[08:05] SomeH4x0r I should have signed both letters just for fun
[08:06] chunky hugo is a very good static site generator
[08:08] matey /me is sure its fun for 3000 idiots to say all sorts of horrible generally untrue things about you and then sign it while demanding for a second time you get deposed from the very thing you founded thirty fucking years ago
[08:09] matey but some people just dont give a fuck
[08:14] matey at any rate i can be pretty sure that 90%+ of the people who signed it dont give a shit about my freedom, nor stallmans, and not likely anyone elses
[08:14] matey but im not a statistician, so i cant be completely sure
[08:15] matey ironically, mjg is. he MIGHT be able to help me figure it out, but i wouldnt count on it.
[08:16] matey then again, taking it in school and doing it on a daily basis are two different things
[08:17] matey but lets assume for one moment theyre the same, and-- same conclusion
[08:17] matey we could simply invoke sturgeons law
[08:20] mjg59_ My stats is pretty out of date
[08:21] mjg59_ Over a decade since I really did statistical analysis of anything
[08:21] matey it was mostly rhetorical
[08:21] matey still you have far more statistics training than i do
[08:21] mjg59_ I even used to teach some!
[08:21] matey there you go
[08:22] mjg59_ It's usually taught dreadfully
[08:22] matey most things are
[08:22] matey teaching i figure, isnt taught well either
[08:22] matey though i dont always blame the teachers. schools DO get in the way
[08:22] matey and the state in the way of the schools
[08:22] matey sometimes in good ways, and certainly not always
[08:23] mjg59_ Eh this was at Cambridge, I think blaming the teachers there is legit
[08:23] matey ive never heard of a school where all the teachers were good
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[08:39] SomeH4x0r no idea why would one go work into a weird education system which damages children mental health for their entire life
[08:40] matey i think a lot of people view university as separate from that
[08:40] matey which i agree and disagree with
[08:40] SomeH4x0r past child education it is probably different
[08:40] matey child education has barely evolved in 1000 years, though its certainly scaled up a bit
[08:41] SomeH4x0r I meant to say adult education
[08:41] matey also children are beaten less, though most abuse (at school or anywhere else) isnt physical in nature
[08:41] SomeH4x0r governments treats children as slaves of their parents
[08:41] matey yes and no
[08:42] matey one of the goals of marxism is to make it so that children arent property of the state or their parents
[08:42] SomeH4x0r some restrictions of course, but otherwise yes
[08:42] SomeH4x0r I'm for banning of reproduction
[08:42] matey in a society where basic needs are taken care of, you dont technically have to raise, feed or even clothe your kids
[08:43] matey I'm for banning of reproduction <- somehow i think thats worse
[08:43] matey china and nazi germany have both toyed with that idea, rather infamously
[08:43] matey unfortunately mike godwin was still born
[08:44] matey or i should say, born anyway
[08:44] SomeH4x0r though I got my mental health damaged by parent stupidity and I am now unhappy when I see kids or pets
[08:44] matey a lot of mental health problems are treatable
[08:44] matey which isnt as good as prevention obviously
[08:45] matey but prevention isnt the last option
[08:46] SomeH4x0r won't forget "baby talk" and not taking children seriously, and lies
[08:47] matey i think baby talk is well intentioned
[08:48] matey its always been my inclination to talk to babies with normal language
[08:48] SomeH4x0r years of my life were wasted on stupid things my parents have had no interest in, but pretended like they did
[08:48] matey i dont think most people have great parents
[08:48] matey some at least have decent parents
[08:49] SomeH4x0r I don't talk to kids, at least on purpose. Thanks to evil laws, if one is less than 13 on the Internet, they'd better not disclose it.
[08:49] matey that was a naive law, at best
[08:50] matey its the sort of law they pass to prevent a mob
[08:50] SomeH4x0r oh, though I talk to some people who are less than 18, but I don't treat them any different
[08:51] SomeH4x0r wasting one's time on purpose is not productive at all, and people generally don't know when they die
[08:52] matey unfortunatly society is full of time sinks
[08:52] SomeH4x0r parents waste 18 years of their lives at least. A lot can happen during this time, wars escalate in a few days sometimes.
[08:53] matey a lot of parents dont consider it a waste of time
[08:53] SomeH4x0r I want to not have persistent people in my home, so they don't annoy me
[08:54] SomeH4x0r I don't get marriage and childbirth
[08:54] matey i think your take on this is highly subjective and probably doesnt explain society in general
[08:54] matey of course everyones take is subjective, some takes more than others
[08:55] matey marriage of course isnt required for childbirth
[08:56] matey a lot of people prefer childbirth in a situation where someone has promised to help them for a really long time
[08:57] matey childbirth isnt required for marriage either
[08:57] matey some people just like knowing someone has promised to help them for a really long time
[08:59] SomeH4x0r it is weird, I don't imagine having children with my IRC friends no matter what they do
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[08:59] matey i dont think thats weird
[08:59] matey most people dont imagine having kids with someone until theyve at least met in person
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[09:00] matey id say if youre not inclined to think of anyone as a life partner, youre a lot less likely to imagine having kids with them
[09:01] SomeH4x0r and I'm just too tired from my parents, would need to spend a while without persistent people at least before I feel better, if I ever do
[09:01] matey of course
[09:01] matey then again, if you dont want kids, you shouldnt have them
[09:02] SomeH4x0r I want offline AI to talk with
[09:02] SomeH4x0r though I won't want it anymore at some point as computers would turn into government abuse machines
[09:02] matey are you certain that would fulfil your needs for communication?
[09:03] matey yeah i mean most machines can be listened to from either the airwaves or the electrical system
[09:04] matey if you managed to shield your computer and monitor and keyboard sufficiently, its still possible to tap the power to your home
[09:04] SomeH4x0r not sure, though not sure if a properly isolated human would fulfil them either
[09:04] matey why isolated?
[09:04] SomeH4x0r so they don't leak stuff
[09:05] SomeH4x0r I try not to put random stuff I hear into search engines. Others probably will.
[09:05] matey i think you have an exaggerated case of a reasonable concern there
[09:06] matey or an extreme case of a reasonable concern
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[09:15] matey healthy relationships are based on the right level of trust
[09:15] matey too trusting and youll be taken advantage of, sometimes, maybe often
[09:16] matey not trusting enough and youll never gain the full benefits of friendship
[09:16] matey i started talking to a girl not too long ago, just as a friend
[09:16] matey shes in her late 30s
[09:17] matey she let me into her home to give me something, even though i did not need to enter her home to get it
[09:17] matey she joined me for lunch but was against either of us eating in her home, which is perfectly reasonable
[09:18] matey though from the details of what she said it was clear she trusted me enough to let me into her home, as long as i didnt stay there for lunch
[09:18] matey which i personally think is a bit weird, but not terribly
[09:18] matey i suppose lunch is a different level of comfortable than letting me in for a moment, even when i didnt need to enter at all
[09:19] matey but the point is that the entire time i knew her
[09:19] matey it was a mix of randomly displaying comfort and trust and the lack of an ordinary level of comfort and trust
[09:19] SomeH4x0r I have issues socializing irl, it is better on the Internet, but then the government will take the Internet and I will have to leave
[09:19] matey if there had been an adequate level of communication we could have worked around that
[09:20] matey but every conversation was the same way as the rest of the interaction
[09:20] matey she clearly has trust issues and i appreciate that
[09:20] matey but i was unable to find a way to navigate those, tried as i might
[09:20] matey ultimately i decided to leave her alone, as i felt that would make her more comfortable
[09:21] matey i appreciate her making the effort, and i tried to return the favour
[09:21] matey but i just didnt have any confidence it was doing either of us any good
[09:22] matey she has 5 ways to contact me-- more than most (i didnt supply all of them)
[09:22] matey she hasnt used any of them, i think i made the right choice.
[09:23] matey or maybe she feels bad, but either way it was just way too much trouble
[09:25] matey do you have cb radio in your country?
[09:26] matey ive known people who have serious problems interacting with people (on and off the spectrum) who enjoyed dealing with people over radio instead
[09:26] matey one is a ham operator but uses it a lot like cb
[09:26] matey the other had a cb radio in her home
[09:27] matey before the internet was common, a number of people had cb radios in their homes
[09:27] SomeH4x0r no idea if there is, but I only have FM receivers
[09:30] matey https://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Ham_Radio/Regional/Ukraine/ https://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Ham_Radio/Clubs/Europe/Ukraine/
[09:30] TR Bot : Ham Radio in Ukraine - The DXZone.com
[09:30] TR Bot Amateur radio clubs in Ukraine : Amateur radio clubs in Ukraine
[09:30] SomeH4x0r anyway, there is another person on IRC I know who is/was interested in this topic
[09:32] SomeH4x0r just realized there is a siren outside, bbl
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[09:33] matey "According to the media outlet Kyiv Independent, amateur radio transmitting devices have been suspended under the newly approved country-wide state of emergency."
[09:33] matey ffs
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[09:38] matey lol
[09:38] matey https://www.insider.com/hackers-change-call-sign-of-putin-linked-superyacht-to-fckptn-2022-3
[09:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: insider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.insider.com/hackers-change-call-sign-of-putin-linked-superyacht-to-fckptn-2022-3 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.insider.com/hackers-change-call-sign-of-putin-linked-superyacht-to-fckptn-2022-3
[09:38] TR Bot Hackers Change Call Sign of Putin-Linked Superyacht to 'FCKPTN'
[09:39] matey "You cannot change AIS data by hacking into the AIS transponder of a ship. This was done by feeding fake AIS messages into marinetraffic.com, something that everyone can do."
[09:39] matey "A friend of mine once wrote a small script that fed the data of 14 fake ships into marinetraffic.com, resulting in a clock drawn at sea (12 for each hour position in a circle) and two acting as hour and minute hands."
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[09:41] kingoffrance just came to say i wont be back, cant be "governed" by "luciferian" MinceR with what could amount to an invisible undeclared CoCs. thats my pass T8Aq5735GYRmXTYb if anyone shows up on this server it aint me. seen enough trumpism nonsense from "anarchists" for one lifetime matey has a great sense of humor lol enjoy the "anarchy" with corporate "persons" as "god" i guess, inquisition 2.0 invisible "law" invisible "crimes" invisible "court
[09:41] kingoffrance s" lol adios amigos, you can ban my IP would be appreciated ANARCHY!!!
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[09:52] matey that was unexpected
[09:54] matey cheers kingoffrance
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[10:04] matey kof has been pretty chill every day ive known him, so i would have never expected burnout
[10:04] matey or for him to take mincer (too) seriously
[10:04] matey every day ive known him <- for more than a year
[10:05] activelow :(
[10:06] matey anarchy is a reasonable goal, i only differ enough on how to get there that i have to turn in my "anarchist" card
[10:06] matey i can probably get it back later, when i dont need it anyway
[10:06] *activelow did not follow the drama
[10:06] matey eh
[10:06] activelow exactly why did he leave?
[10:07] matey im blaming msg.
[10:07] activelow ?
[10:07] matey long story
[10:07] matey but seriously, im calling burnout
[10:08] matey i just wasnt expecting it from him
[10:09] matey i still think hes cool by the way
[10:09] matey burnout makes people quit
[10:09] matey or think they have to
[10:14] matey as for how to live without a state...
[10:14] matey humanity has done that for most of its existence
[10:14] activelow "humanity" is an _abstract_
[10:14] matey fair enough
[10:15] matey by "humanity" i mean the billions of people on the face of the planet at a given time
[10:15] matey in this instance i mean the ones on the planet right now
[10:15] matey though i wont promise to never speak of humanity in a historical context
[10:15] activelow unspecific again, then how do the billions live, where and when?
[10:16] matey actually in this instance im speaking of all the people who have lived on earth up to and including this point
[10:16] matey unspecific again <- you want me to be specific about every person ever?
[10:16] activelow even tribal societies establish some social order etc.; which served survival, and without it extinction
[10:16] matey thats not entirely reasonable is it?
[10:18] matey take the sum of the experience of the species homo sapiens, cut that in half, and even less of it has ever pertained to experience of a "state" of any sort
[10:18] matey in terms of government
[10:18] matey anarchy is natural, but more importantly its a default.
[10:19] matey the state is an exception
[10:19] matey sort of like internal combustion vehicles or copyright law
[10:20] matey most of the time that homo sapiens have existed, copyright, internal combusion vehicles and state governments did not exist
[10:21] matey of course since that time weve also been to outer space, developed treatments for diabetics and cancer patients, and harnessed (to some degree) the atom
[10:22] matey and if we arent careful, we will attribute those achievements to things that existed in the same timeframe, whether the credit can truly go to those or not
[10:23] matey but the state is a powerful drug, and people get addicted to it, and feel threatened without it
[10:24] activelow if you attribute "anarchy" with "natural", you're again resorting to some _abstract_; and again some type of natural order isn't anarchist - rather the opposite
[10:24] matey my argument doesnt depend on anarchy being natural
[10:24] matey the only reason i mention it is to show that our species has ALREADY managed to live without a state
[10:25] activelow it hasn't
[10:25] matey really
[10:25] matey so um
[10:25] matey how old is the state then?
[10:25] matey i mean how far back was the first one?
[10:25] activelow yet, a "government" isn't the state; or whatever else you are referring to with "the state"
[10:26] matey whether you call it government or state
[10:26] matey i think its safe to say that its newer than homo sapiens
[10:26] matey but maybe you know something i dont
[10:26] activelow well, this distinction is important, what government and state were
[10:26] activelow and both existed since the beginning, of homo
[10:27] matey that sounds a lot like rewriting history to me
[10:28] activelow within any family clan, if any social order exists, which it does, almost always among homo sapiens, then this establish both some "state", the social order, and any type of authority/ruler of it
[10:28] matey ah i see
[10:28] activelow anyway, why would anyone leave the server over a dispute concerning this?
[10:28] matey so you consider any form of social order to be government or state
[10:29] matey anyway, why would anyone leave the server over a dispute concerning this? <- burnout
[10:29] matey he was literally so tired of arguing that he decided not to anymore
[10:29] activelow the social order _is_ the state, yet states may exist without any excessive authority (government)
[10:30] chunky damn.. i miss kingoffrance..
[10:32] matey the social order _is_ the state <- not that i want to
[10:32] matey but somehow i think if we explore that idea far enough we will debunk it
[10:33] matey im content to simply disagree
[10:34] matey german communism is notoriously obtuse and i wouldnt really expect german concepts of state to be different
[10:34] matey i dont even know if germany is to blame here
[10:35] matey only that politically speaking... i mean i wouldnt be too surprised
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[11:27] DaemonFC I need an oil change. It seems like nobody really beats the dealership too much on those.
[11:28] DaemonFC :/
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[11:52] DaemonFC There we go. Dealership for an oil change and cabin air filter.
[11:52] DaemonFC Those videos make it look like cabin air filter replacement isn't a big deal on the Impala/Lacrosse, but it kind of is because of the way the filter goes in.
[11:53] DaemonFC GM couldn't just make it like most other cars where you open up the glove box, yank it, and push the new one in.
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[12:00] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 11, 2022 | Techrights
[12:03] DaemonFC matey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kKoqE-sAb8
[12:03] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=1kKoqE-sAb8
[12:04] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Slavery With Extra Steps - Invidious
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[12:14] DaemonFC schestowitz, People go to Walmart for oil changes and they shouldn't.
[12:15] DaemonFC Walmart costs about the same as a dealer oil change with a coupon, except that Walmart makes you wait 4 hours somehow to trap you in the stupid store.
[12:16] DaemonFC Then they have people who aren't mechanics work on your car for minimum wage. Half the time they strip out or round the oil pan drain plug, or cross thread it, or don't put oil in, and that will do a lot of damage to your wallet obviously.
[12:16] DaemonFC ANd then if you file an engine damage claim, Walmart is their own insurance company and goes "We're Walmart. Sue us. LOL".
[12:17] DaemonFC Half the time if you ask them for an air filter to be installed, they managed to break the retainer clips on your air intake box, and the other half the time they don't even do it, and still charge you for it.
[12:18] DaemonFC Of course, that all assumes that they agree to do anything to your car to begin with. THEY ARE PICKY. If your car has ANY quirks at all, they make you wait 4 hours and page you back to the automotive center and refuse to do the service.
[12:19] zuka whats the site that tell you what oil is suitable to what car?
[12:26] zuka DaemonFC https://speedcamanywhere.com/
[12:26] TR Bot Speedcam Anywhere
[12:26] zuka make your roads safer
[12:27] zuka Speedcam Anywhere turns your smartphone or tablet into a portable speed camera.
[12:27] zuka how cool is that
[12:28] zuka now anyone can be a trafic cop
[12:43] DaemonFC whats the site that tell you what oil is suitable to what car?
[12:44] zuka yes?
[12:44] DaemonFC Not sure. Typically, if it says you use 5w20, 5w30, or 5w40 in the owner's manual, you can use the corresponding 0wxx for the car.
[12:45] DaemonFC And a good rule is that engines that say you can use conventional oil will wear less on synthetic, but engines that specify full synthetic must not use conventional.
[12:45] DaemonFC Or it will do serious damage.
[12:46] zuka so whats the site?
[12:46] DaemonFC I just look at the manufacturer's manual or TSB.
[12:46] DaemonFC Ford said run the 1996 Crown Victoria with 5w30, but later said you could use 5w20 back to 1992.
[12:46] DaemonFC So I ran it on 0w20 for years and nothing bad ever happened.
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[12:52] TR News TuxMachines will be back shortly. Please do not submit any stories until the evening as we restore the site to its ptevious state (there was a DB issue)
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[13:44] zuka psydruid 13:33:37
[13:45] psydruid :)
[13:47] *zuka Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 2
[13:51] zuka cantt one virtualize a tpm chip
[13:51] zuka to make windows 11 happy
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[13:59] TR News Archcraft April Release Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163621
[13:59] TR Bot Archcraft April Release Available | Tux Machines
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[14:00] TR News TuxMachines now fully recovered from its database crash. We had to restore many nodes by hand.
[14:02] zuka the site is working agian :)
[14:04] schestowitz-TR yes, lots of work on that
[14:04] schestowitz-TR we'll need to also upgrade the software some time soon
[14:04] schestowitz-TR the storage engine is not so reliable
[14:04] schestowitz-TR we had an incident similar to this about 3-4 years agoi
[14:09] MinceR 12 080929 < psydruid> makes me want to colonize mars to get away from all of these twats
[14:10] MinceR with the right subset, it could theoretically work
[14:10] MinceR the problems are getting the right subset to go and terraforming mars
[14:10] MinceR we don't have the technology for the latter
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[14:26] TR News "Earlier this year I started a PhD in pure mathematics at KU Leuven in Belgium and in this blog post I discuss my research workflow." https://castel.dev/post/research-workflow/ | Source: 0
[14:26] TR Bot My Mathematics PhD research workflow | Gilles Castel
[14:26] TR News "It's amazing to me how much FUD is being spread about the Fediverse in that post." https://blog.peerverse.space/lets-talk-about-project/ | Source: 0
[14:26] TR Bot Let's talk about Bluesky
[14:29] TR News "At least 153 pieces of cryptocurrency-related legislation were pending this year in 40 states and Puerto Rico" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html | Source: New York Times
[14:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/politics/crypto-industry-states-legislation.html
[14:29] TR Bot Crypto Industry Helps Write, and Pass, Its Own Agenda in State Capitols - The New York Times
[14:44] TR News Hungary, Orban, and the other virus https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/fact-check-have-hungarian-researchers-proven-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-not-quite | Source: Hungary
[14:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: telex.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/fact-check-have-hungarian-researchers-proven-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-not-quite https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/fact-check-have-hungarian-researchers-proven-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-not-quite
[14:44] TR Bot Telex: Fact-check: Have Hungarian researchers proven that Covid escaped from a lab? Not quite.
[14:44] TR News They always say they care about children... https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/ngos-to-be-fined-for-encouraging-invalid-votes-at-the-hungarian-governments-child-protection-referendum | Source: Hungary
[14:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: telex.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/ngos-to-be-fined-for-encouraging-invalid-votes-at-the-hungarian-governments-child-protection-referendum https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/11/ngos-to-be-fined-for-encouraging-invalid-votes-at-the-hungarian-governments-child-protection-referendum
[14:44] TR Bot Telex: NGOs to be fined for encouraging invalid votes at the Hungarian governments child protection referendum
[14:49] psydruid > cantt one virtualize a tpm chip
[14:49] psydruid > to make windows 11 happy
[14:49] psydruid I did that, but it's slow as hell on my hardware when updating
[14:49] psydruid I would need to buy new hardware to be able to run it comfortably and to be abused by it properly
[14:51] activelow tpm => serial number => user identification
[14:52] activelow the idea, to install any operating system, is confabulated brain washing;
[14:53] activelow it is flawed by design somehow, not because of political reasons, because of technical ones; given the fact which benefit an immutable operating system residing on ROM-type memorys can have
[14:56] MinceR ah yes, immutable security holes
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[14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 122.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 300.96
[14:59] TR News "Although the hearing covered bread and butter issues, the mainstream corporate media ignored it." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/11/corporate-media-ignores-senate-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-inflation/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[14:59] TR Bot Media Ignores Senate Hearing on Corporate Greed and Inflation - CounterPunch.org
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[15:01] TR News "3D laser engraving" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/quick-hacks-countersinking-screw-heads-with-3d-laser-engraving/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:01] TR Bot Hacks: Countersinking Screw Heads With 3D Laser Engraving | Hackaday
[15:01] TR News "Computer memory has taken on many forms over the years" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/glow-in-the-dark-computer-memory-illuminates-the-fundamentals/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:01] TR Bot In The Dark Computer Memory Illuminates The Fundamentals | Hackaday
[15:02] TR News "Ilikened ivermectin to acupuncture" https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/11/sbm-versus-ivermectin-and-other-implausible-treatments/ | Source: Orac
[15:02] Alternative link CloudFlare: respectfulinsolence.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/11/sbm-versus-ivermectin-and-other-implausible-treatments/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/11/sbm-versus-ivermectin-and-other-implausible-treatments/
[15:02] TR Bot SBM versus ivermectin and other implausible treatments - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[15:02] TR News "/e/OS from /e/ Foundation is one of the very few Android-based operating systems" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/ | Source: PIA
[15:02] Alternative link CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/get-google-out-of-your-mobile-life-with-e-os/
[15:02] TR Bot Get Google out of Your Mobile Life with /e/OS
[15:06] TR News The 5 Things That Taught Me The Most About Linux https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/the-5-things-that-taught-me-the-most:7 Source: DistroTube
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[15:06] TR Bot The 5 Things That Taught Me The Most About Linux
[15:06] TR News iophk: MS = sabotage; microsofters = saboteurs; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/politics/us-russia-malware-cyberattacks.html
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[15:06] TR Bot U.S. Says It Secretly Removed Malware Worldwide, Pre-empting Russian Cyberattacks - The New York Times
[15:13] TR News Meet Lite XL: A Lightweight, Open-Source Text Editor for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163622
[15:13] TR Bot Meet Lite XL: A Lightweight, Open-Source Text Editor for Linux Users | Tux Machines
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[15:16] TR News A liberal education https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/liberal-education
[15:16] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Liberal Education
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[15:19] activelow MinceR: a ROM doesn't prevent "updates"; and updates are sickening more often than providing a cure
[15:19] TR News Try this open source alternative to Salesforce Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163623
[15:19] TR Bot Try this open source alternative to Salesforce | Tux Machines
[15:19] TR News 5 Best Free and Open Source Incident Response Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163624
[15:19] MinceR it's painful to fix bugs in ROM
[15:20] TR Bot 5 Best Free and Open Source Incident Response Tools | Tux Machines
[15:20] MinceR but sure, OS-es shouldn't be so crap that their updates make them worse
[15:20] activelow some bios roms got a mechanical dip switch, to enable read-only, floppy disk too contained a mechanical switch, for read-only
[15:21] activelow i keep my linux rootfs inside squashfs, for obvious reasons
[15:22] TR News "EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OBrien" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-making-hope-adam-savage | Gilmore and Barlow knew better how to run EFF
[15:22] TR Bot Podcast Episode: Making Hope, with Adam Savage | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[15:24] MinceR flip a switch to toggle read-only is a good idea
[15:25] activelow it is the basic principle, of many "security" features
[15:25] TR News "The fallout from Russia's invasion of Ukraine has reminded us of the unforeseeable disruptions constantly confronting the global economy." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/11/economic-shock-therapy-neoliberals | Source: Common Dreams
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[15:25] TR Bot Opinion | Economic Shock Therapy for Neoliberals | Joseph Stiglitz
[15:26] activelow reminds me, of the harvard architecture again, and the nx-bit, which Intel boasted about, yet rarely is any policy enforced, to utilize it, this read-only mechanism for memory
[15:26] TR News "The United Kingdom's ostensibly leftist Labour Party came under fire Monday after calling for nationwide injunctions to block direct actions" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/disgrace-uk-labour-party-slammed-seeking-injunction-against-climate-activists | Source: Common Dreams
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[15:26] TR Bot 'A Disgrace': UK Labour Party Slammed for Seeking Injunction Against Climate Activists
[15:27] activelow got some kernel patches still, for amd64, which i sraped and forward-ported to kernel 5.10, to enforce nx-bit policy for main memory
[15:27] TR News "A coalition of progressive leaders from across the globe demanded Monday that the Biden administration immediately drop all charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/11/global-progressive-leaders-urge-biden-drop-us-charges-against-assange | Source: Common Dreams
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[15:27] TR Bot Global Progressive Leaders Urge Biden to Drop US Charges Against Assange
[15:27] activelow no clue, why not at least this is maintained as it should, with the mountain of "security" fuzz around linux kernel
[15:30] TR News Linux 4.9.310 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163625
[15:30] TR Bot Linux 4.9.310 | Tux Machines
[15:30] TR News 8+ Locate command usage with examples for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163626
[15:30] TR Bot 8+ Locate command usage with examples for Linux | Tux Machines
[15:30] activelow anyway, "installation" of an operating system is CIA brainwashing their customers, to think this is how it should be, instead of loading DOS from read-only floppy disk into memory, as it was
[15:30] TR News Pscp in Linux System: Everything You Need To Know About Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163627
[15:30] TR Bot Pscp in Linux System: Everything You Need To Know About | Tux Machines
[15:30] TR News MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower" Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163628
[15:30] TR Bot MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower" | Tux Machines
[15:31] activelow and how much had progressed operating system design since then, what a glory
[15:31] TR News "Commenters told him that the best fluid level sensor was a hacked blood pressure monitor." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/blood-pressure-cuff-hacked-into-water-level-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:31] TR Bot Pressure Cuff Hacked Into Water Level Sensor | Hackaday
[15:32] TR News GulagTube is not suitable for science https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/trenton-computer-festival-makes-youtube-debut/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:32] TR Bot Computer Festival Makes YouTube Debut | Hackaday
[15:32] TR News 5G https://www.projectcensored.org/expansion-of-wireless-5g-technology-to-oceans-threatens-wildlife/ | Source: Project Censored
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[15:32] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/expansion-of-wireless-5g-technology-to-oceans-threatens-wildlife/ )
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[15:38] TR News "Steam Turbine Skateboard" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/12/a-v2-rocket-inspired-steam-turbine-skateboard-is-just-around-the-corner/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:38] TR Bot V2 Rocket Inspired Steam Turbine Skateboard Is Just Around The Corner | Hackaday
[15:38] TR News "Were fans of unusual forms of transport here, so when we saw an article featuring a home-made motorcycle chariot we knew we had to share it with you." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/11/this-chariot-is-pulled-by-a-team-of-motorcycles/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:38] TR Bot Chariot Is Pulled By A Team Of Motorcycles | Hackaday
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[15:41] TR News EndeavourOS Apollo Release Introduces a new Worm Window Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163607#comment-33327
[15:41] TR Bot EndeavourOS: The Apollo release has landed | Tux Machines
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[15:44] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163629
[15:44] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:45] TR News Patents kill. WTO profits from death. https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/11/leaked-wto-covid-patent-waiver-text-very-bad | Source: Common Dreams
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[15:45] TR Bot Opinion | The Leaked WTO Covid Patent Waiver Text Is Very Bad | Fatima Hassan
[15:58] TR News Qualcomm Edge AI Vision kit combines Qualcomm QCS610 SoC & Sony IMX415 4K ultra low light camera Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163630
[15:58] TR Bot Qualcomm Edge AI Vision kit combines Qualcomm QCS610 SoC & Sony IMX415 4K ultra low light camera | Tux Machines
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[16:11] matey well if the cia is trying to stop people from loading the os from a chip
[16:12] matey theyre losing big time on the smartphone front
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[16:19] zuka the cia wants to be able to load the ciaOS
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[16:52] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/criminalized-onion-relish.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/just-wait-til-the-onion-hits-my-colon/ )
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[16:52] TR Bot Just wait til the onion hits my colon
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● Apr 12
[17:04] TR News "Facebooks DIO consists of three tiers of banned users." https://www.projectcensored.org/facebooks-blacklist-of-dangerous-individuals-and-organizations-stifles-public-debate/ | Source: Project Censored
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[17:12] TR News ScamCoins https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/double-your-crypto-scams-share-crypto-scam-host/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[17:12] TR Bot Double-Your-Crypto Scams Share Crypto Scam Host Krebs on Security
[17:13] TR News "Today also marks the three year anniversary of when Julian Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy in London by the Metropolitan Police" https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/progressive-leaders-call-on-us-president-joe-biden-to-drop-the-charges-against-julian-assange/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
[17:13] TR Bot Progressive Leaders call on US President Joe Biden to drop the charges against Julian Assange - Don't Extradite Assange
[17:13] TR News "The charges against Assange are an affront to journalists everywhere and a threat to press freedom." https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/three-years-since-julian-assanges-arrest-from-the-ecuador-embassy-reactions-statements/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
[17:13] TR Bot Three years since Julian Assanges arrest from the Ecuador Embassy - Reactions & Statements - Don't Extradite Assange
[17:14] TR News "telecom monopolies" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/illinois-missouri-and-new-york-lawmakers-are-helping-telecom-monopolies-block-broadband-competition/ | Source: Techdirt
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[17:14] TR Bot Missouri, and New York Lawmakers Are Helping Telecom Monopolies Block Broadband Competition | Techdirt
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[17:15] TR News FBI works for... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/appeals-court-calls-out-fbi-for-treating-rich-people-better-than-poor-people/ | Source: Techdirt
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[17:15] TR Bot Court Calls Out FBI For Treating Rich People Better Than Poor People | Techdirt
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[17:18] TR News "This agenda is anti-worker, anti-consumer" https://robertreich.org/post/681207712764346368 | Source: Robert Reich
[17:18] TR Bot Robert Reich (How the Supreme Court Could Make Your Life More...)
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[17:20] TR News Avoid starbucks 'ambiance' cult https://truthout.org/articles/labor-officials-find-starbucks-illegally-fired-seven-union-organizers-in-memphis/ | Source: TruthOut
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[17:20] TR Bot Labor Officials Find Starbucks Illegally Fired 7 Union Organizers in Memphis
[17:22] TR News "interminably long tech CEO hearings in front of Congress" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/despite-what-fox-news-tells-you-a-new-study-did-not-prove-that-gmail-is-biased-against-conservatives/ | Source: Techdirt
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[17:22] TR Bot What Fox News Tells You, A New Study Did Not Prove That Gmail Is Targeting Conservatives | Techdirt
[17:24] TR News "Twitter labeled his account as being Russia state-affiliated media." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/uk-politician-who-had-shows-on-russian-tv-channel-threatens-to-sue-twitter-for-noting-his-connections-to-russian-media/ | Source: Techdirt, WTH??
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[17:24] TR Bot Politician Who Had Shows On Russian TV Channel Threatens To Sue Twitter For Noting His Connections To Russian Media | Techdirt
[17:27] TR News "Janine Jackson interviewed EFFs Dave Maass about transparency and journalism for the April 22, 2022, episode of CounterSpin." https://fair.org/home/you-have-to-laugh-at-the-ways-agencies-will-evade-giving-you-information/ | Source: FAIR
[17:27] TR Bot 'You Have to Laugh at the Ways Agencies Will Evade Giving You Information' - FAIR
[17:29] TR News "On April 1, a Moscow court debated the case of four editors from the student magazine Doxa on trial for charges of inciting minors to take part in protests." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/self-censorship-leads-to-impotence | Source: Meduza
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[17:29] TR Bot NO TITLE
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[17:31] TR News "The Government of Indonesia continues to crack down on piracy." [sic] https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-numbers-drop-after-indonesia-blocks-over-3500-pirate-sites-220411/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[17:31] TR Bot Numbers Drop After Indonesia Blocks Over 3,500 Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
[17:31] TR News "In 2013, pirate streaming site Afdah began offering a comprehensive library of infringing movies to millions of users." https://torrentfreak.com/ace-finally-seizes-pirate-streaming-domains-after-years-of-legal-action-220411/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[17:31] TR Bot Finally Seizes Pirate Streaming Domains After Years of Legal Action * TorrentFreak
[17:32] TR News "A couple months back, Starlink and Elon Musk got several weeks of press adulation for shipping thousands of low orbit satellite terminals to Ukraine" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/u-s-buries-fact-it-gave-elon-musk-3-million-to-send-satellite-dishes-to-ukraine/ | Source: Techdirt
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[17:32] TR Bot Buries Fact It Gave Elon Musk $3 Million To Send Satellite Dishes To Ukraine | Techdirt
[17:33] TR News Crazy trademark policy https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/11/stone-brewing-fresh-off-trademark-win-against-keystone-sued-for-blatant-tm-infringement/ | Source: Techdirt
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[17:33] TR Bot Brewing, Fresh Off Trademark Win Against Keystone, Sued For Blatant TM Infringement | Techdirt
[17:34] TR News COVID-19 still out there, getting stronger https://truthout.org/articles/the-ba-2-variant-is-now-dominant-and-weary-as-we-are-we-cant-dismiss-it/ | Source: TruthOut
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[17:34] TR Bot The BA.2 Subvariant Is Now Dominant, and Weary as We Are, We Can't Dismiss It
[17:42] zuka https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-12/microsoft-customers-decry-cloud-contracts-that-sideline-rivals
[17:42] TR Bot - Are you a robot?
[17:43] zuka lol
[17:44] zuka this channel is too quite today
[17:45] zuka is anyone in here?
[17:51] SomeH4x0r I am
[17:55] *bnchs_ (~bnchs_@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights
[17:55] bnchs_ I am
[17:58] schestowitz-TR zuka: a lot of energy was expended this weekend
[17:58] bnchs_ hello anyway
[17:58] schestowitz-TR on stuff like codiming , maintaining and D-R
[17:58] bnchs_ was the DB recovered?
[17:58] schestowitz-TR also had problem with my connection for 4 hours last night, among DB issues... hence barely articles until tomorrow
[17:58] bnchs_ and working now?
[17:58] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: yes
[17:58] bnchs_ well thats great
[17:58] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: yes, we recovered from backup and merged in the diffs
[17:59] schestowitz-TR it's an old DB
[17:59] schestowitz-TR 18 years
[17:59] Ariadne the entire everything needs to be redone
● Apr 12
[18:00] Ariadne i dont have time to do it
[18:00] Ariadne i probably won't for a while
[18:00] Ariadne between work and other concerns, i don't have a lot of free time atm
[18:00] TR News Microsoft is bribery and the author of this article is Microsoft's media mole for nearly 15 years already https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-12/microsoft-customers-decry-cloud-contracts-that-sideline-rivals
[18:00] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: understandable
[18:00] bnchs_ techrights' technical debt
[18:01] schestowitz-TR just just ours
[18:01] schestowitz-TR tuxmachines started on gentoo
[18:01] schestowitz-TR ages ago
[18:01] schestowitz-TR we actually tidied up lots of things
[18:01] schestowitz-TR the site is in general easy to contribute to and navigate, imho
[18:02] schestowitz-TR all the stuff is in two CMSs, strictly, Gallery and Drupal
[18:02] schestowitz-TR today we split the backup regime so that it does remote at 5pm and local dump at 5am
[18:03] bnchs_ i can see you planned out your backups
[18:03] bnchs_ and it was all worth it
[18:03] schestowitz-TR yes, we keep many backups
[18:03] schestowitz-TR which is fortunate as 2 days of backups were broken
[18:03] schestowitz-TR we used the one from the 9th
[18:04] schestowitz-TR anyway, it used to tun on gentoo, then debian, before gentoo started running "Chrome" "books"
[18:04] schestowitz-TR those were the days when you could barely get your graphics card to work
[18:04] matey /me doubts gentoo had anything to do with gentoo running on chrome books (at least initially)
[18:05] TR News "digi-fascism" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/11/the-rise-of-digi-fascism/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[18:05] TR Bot Rise of Digi-Fascism - CounterPunch.org
[18:05] schestowitz-TR matey: yes, but it does no harm to them
[18:05] schestowitz-TR gentoo's founder is proud of it
[18:05] matey thats a bit perverse, but i can see it
[18:05] schestowitz-TR but then again, he joined part 25
[18:05] schestowitz-TR (microsoft)
[18:05] matey oh no
[18:05] schestowitz-TR *port 25
[18:05] bnchs_ "gentoo running on chromebooks"
[18:05] schestowitz-TR a very bad derivative of it
[18:05] bnchs_ and they used it like a marketing pro
[18:06] bnchs_ heres a locked down chromebook that can only use the clown
[18:06] bnchs_ but at least it runs gentoo
[18:06] matey i imagine siemens had a similar line in their brochures
[18:06] schestowitz-TR yes, they even bear Microsoft to it
[18:06] schestowitz-TR Microsoft pursued patents on the idea 15 years ago
[18:06] psydruid the worst part is that some laptop configurations are only available as chromebooks
[18:06] schestowitz-TR Gulag did it
[18:06] matey "the #1 industrial supplier of modern germany!"
[18:07] schestowitz-TR now Windows follows
[18:07] matey in the 1930s and 40s
[18:07] schestowitz-TR "can't afford a computer? Here, become our serf"
[18:07] schestowitz-TR psydruid: steam deck is a drm machine
[18:07] psydruid the war on general-purpose computing
[18:07] schestowitz-TR kde and arch but locked down to FS level
[18:07] schestowitz-TR but still, better than gpd and all that windows crap
[18:07] psydruid I would never buy a steam deck
[18:07] schestowitz-TR give them ma run for the money
[18:08] psydruid but kudos to valve
[18:08] schestowitz-TR psydruid: it's not for you
[18:08] matey /me hopes gentoo isnt behind steam dick too, or they could get a reputation for being drm happy
[18:08] psydruid lol
[18:08] schestowitz-TR it might help you convince some people to move to gnu/linux with steam store or whatever they call it
[18:08] matey i think freebsd is proud of netflix, sadly
[18:08] bnchs_ schestowitz-TR: not locked down enough for tim swine-e
[18:08] schestowitz-TR they used to have hotmail
[18:08] psydruid gabe newell is being a steam dick
[18:08] bnchs_ he needs rootkits
[18:08] schestowitz-TR this was actually brought up this morning
[18:09] schestowitz-TR freebsd and netflix
[18:09] schestowitz-TR (in antoher channel)
[18:09] psydruid yes
[18:09] matey netlix sponsored some of their talks
[18:09] bnchs_ gabe newell cant even count to 3
[18:09] psydruid there are presentations by netflix employees at fosdem
[18:09] matey getting on without takeover by corporate sponsors is vital to free software
[18:10] matey you can handle maybe a minimal percentage of such things
[18:10] matey until the microbel effect sets in
[18:10] *schestowitz-TR about to start "linux" links
[18:11] bnchs_ wait, freebsd and netfilx?
[18:11] psydruid yes
[18:11] matey for years now
[18:11] bnchs_ did they bribe freebsd to add DRM?
[18:11] matey netflix runs on freebsd
[18:12] psydruid freebsd's network stack is better than linux's
[18:12] matey i think they run their drm on top of freebsd
[18:12] matey its clown-based so you dont need a rootkit
[18:12] psydruid and can handle higher workloads
[18:13] matey of course you may need a rootkit on the client side, but that generally means windows or whatever roku runs on
[18:13] matey android as well
[18:15] matey roku os is based on "linux" it would seem
[18:15] Ariadne psydruid: not so much anymore
[18:15] Ariadne there is also a lot of alpine inside netflix these days
[18:19] psydruid did linux improve or is this completely because of alpine?
[18:19] Ariadne linux improved
[18:20] matey "You have to understand that the Roku OS isn't an Android-based operating system. This is a closed-loop Linux-based OS which wasn't designed to accommodate web browsers, online shopping, or mobile gaming. As such, when it comes to the types of APK files you can install, you're really limited only to entertainment channels."
[18:20] matey "closed-loop"
[18:20] matey not android-based. has "apks" anyway?
[18:20] schestowitz-TR netflix is connected to microsoft, so they dislike gpl
[18:20] schestowitz-TR I don't think freebsd there is based on merit vs linux
[18:21] Ariadne schestowitz-TR: mmm, no
[18:21] Ariadne freebsd has historically had superior networking performance
[18:21] Ariadne linux has just caught up in recent years
[18:21] schestowitz-TR i see...
[18:21] matey /me isnt a fan of freebsd, but is still aware of its technical merits
[18:22] TR News "I survived 30 days in ChromeOS as a poweruser. I dont use Chrome Browser and I dont enjoy using Andorid apps." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk
[18:22] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk
[18:22] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=fVRZlqmGrUk )
[18:22] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: that instance is still down ^^
[18:23] bnchs_ yeah
[18:23] matey for example, if something does a particular thing really well, and you still dont prefer it, you can say things like:
[18:23] bnchs_ its been down for days now
[18:23] TR News Mythbusting: Linux apps SUCK and they SLOW Linux growth - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[18:23] TR Bot Mythbusting: Linux apps SUCK and they SLOW Linux growth - Invidious
[18:23] matey "its a shame that freebsd isnt _____________ or _________, when its so good at ______________"
[18:23] matey though if youre not a fan, you probably wont bring it up as often until someone else does
[18:24] TR News Which is your preferred way to control logical flow? #programming #javascript - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o3pQbZpJ6Nc Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[18:24] TR Bot Which is your preferred way to control logical flow? #programming #javascript - Invidious
[18:24] matey microsoft takes things over by getting people to focus on the good and ignore the mountain of terrible faults, so this isnt a recommended approach for anything microsoft
[18:25] matey if someone say anything good about microsoft, the best response is "yes, buts its satans festering turds"
[18:25] matey or something along those lines
[18:25] bnchs_ theres no reason to stay on windows anymore
[18:25] bnchs_ unless you use abandonware
[18:25] bnchs_ unless you HAVE to use abandonware
[18:25] matey hyperbole is insufficient for describing the horrors of microsoft. english fails to convey it completely, you would need an entirely new language
[18:26] matey something like a cross between esperanto and the elder scrolls
[18:26] psydruid windows itself is abandonware
[18:26] matey if lovecraft were alive today he could do it
[18:26] matey it would still lose something in the translation to english
[18:27] psydruid they just put enough lipstick on the pig to make it look as it's still alive and thriving
[18:27] psydruid as if*
[18:27] matey "its a pig made almost entirely of lipstick!"
[18:27] matey to be fair, the lipstick is made partly of pork grease
[18:28] matey "clutching forks and knives, to eat their bacon!"-- beatles (from the allow album)
[18:28] TR News 'Security' as expensive gadgets that won't compensate for real issues: "Have you considered using a YubiKey? In this complete guide, you'll learn everything you need in order to get started with these awesome security keys." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pANjo6B09iI
[18:28] TR Bot https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=pANjo6B09iI
[18:28] TR Bot inv.riverside.rocks | YubiKey Complete Getting Started Guide! - Invidious
[18:29] bnchs_ if you really need adobe
[18:29] matey you dont
[18:29] bnchs_ then you can use wine
[18:29] TR News "In the 25th episode of Enterprise Linux Security, Jay and Joao catch up on a few things in the news, including the results of a recent Internet Crime Report, and more!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUYg-Pi2G8
[18:29] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=6EUYg-Pi2G8
[18:29] bnchs_ matey: i wouldnt use adobe photoshop in a bit
[18:29] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 25 - News Roundup - Invidious
[18:29] matey i know
[18:30] matey i just think its the best way to end the sentence
[18:30] matey "if you really need adobe... you dont"
[18:30] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of MX Linux 21.1 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oVCZtlVKZU
[18:30] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=1oVCZtlVKZU
[18:30] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | MX Linux 21.1 overview | simple configuration, high stability, solid performance. - Invidious
[18:30] bnchs_ bur even then
[18:30] psydruid adobe is offerings its applications on the web these days
[18:30] matey lol
[18:30] bnchs_ adobe is the ONLY reason
[18:30] bnchs_ why people stay on windows
[18:30] bnchs_ that and abandonware
[18:30] matey which is weird, i thought they had it on macs too
[18:30] bnchs_ you can use wine in the latter
[18:30] psydruid they realize they are missing out on a whole generation of useds
[18:31] matey watching a windows user use adobe would be like watching an amish person using a self-service kiosk at starbucks
[18:31] matey probably in more ways than one
[18:32] matey /me has never seen a self-service kiosk at starbucks, but has used one at mcdonalds a couple times
[18:32] matey before the pandemic. after? fuck that.
[18:32] bnchs_ but theres one
[18:33] bnchs_ adobe flash seems much easier to use
[18:33] bnchs_ than synfig
[18:33] matey i dont doubt it
[18:34] matey but when you use non-free software youre really just borrowing someone elses stuff
[18:34] matey its never yours, theyll see to that
[18:34] bnchs_ yeah
[18:34] psydruid I heard that people are using adobe animation to create games
[18:34] matey if youre replacing something where you buy tubes of paint and use them up, i can see how people get pulled into that
[18:34] psydruid and comics
[18:34] psydruid or whatever
[18:34] matey sure, you could
[18:34] matey i mean blender has been used the same way
[18:34] matey not that i can figure out how
[18:35] bnchs_ adobe flash is good for beginners because it doesnt overcomplicate shit
[18:35] mjg59_ It's often easier for businesses to account for ongoing costs rather than up-front costs
[18:35] matey sure, for the same reason its easier to navigate a ship than set it to run automatically from a to b
[18:35] TR News "Here is a stylisation research for "Pepper the traveler in incognito mode" for episode 37. But why a stylisation research now?" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article906/ep37-production-report-style
[18:35] TR Bot Ep37 production report: style - David Revoy
[18:35] mjg59_ Finance departments may well prefer spending $10 a month forever than $500 as a one-off
[18:36] psydruid animate*
[18:37] TR News Ruby Patches Important Bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163631
[18:37] TR Bot Ruby Patches Important Bugs | Tux Machines
[18:37] matey the whole idea of basing software choices on finance depts falls apart if you get rid of capitalism
[18:37] bnchs_ maybe because you can simply use it without that much knowledge of the software
[18:37] matey of course then it moves from finance depts to financial planning, but its not exactly the same
[18:38] mjg59_ And, of course, if you want meaningful support you're paying per month anyway
[18:39] matey except that if you stop paying you still have the software
[18:39] matey and a choice where you get support from
[18:39] matey my #1 gripe with any software is they make huge changes and then everyone waits for documentation to catch up
[18:40] matey all those books you purchased, trash
[18:40] psydruid that's a business too
[18:40] TR News Shows and Videos: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux, and New Videos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163632
[18:40] TR Bot Shows and Videos: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux, and New Videos | Tux Machines
[18:40] psydruid collateral business
[18:40] matey but what i really dont like is the customers-are-cattle model
[18:40] matey which permeates the software world
[18:41] TR News Software Patents legitimised by Open Invention Network (OIN) https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Truist+Joins+the+Open+Invention+Network/19902267.html
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[18:41] matey users, not just customers
[18:41] matey if you dont want them in this place, just move their entire workflow somewhere else
[18:41] psydruid it's because the software field is still so young
[18:41] matey maybe
[18:41] schestowitz-TR Corporations are people
[18:41] psydruid everyone should be a developer
[18:41] schestowitz-TR People are consumers
[18:41] schestowitz-TR consumed by corporations
[18:41] matey even if everyone could code
[18:41] matey not professionally, not even well
[18:41] matey just enough to have some idea how it works
[18:42] matey literacy would be so much better
[18:42] matey people would be better armed to understand whats being done to them
[18:42] psydruid software as products doesn't seem to make much sense
[18:42] matey of course microsoft already hijacks that
[18:42] matey coding itself
[18:42] schestowitz-TR it is infeasible in some parts of the world
[18:42] bnchs_ matey: they dont like that
[18:42] matey so that too has to be fought, but people being code literate still helps
[18:42] bnchs_ they rather want people to consume
[18:42] mjg59_ The problem here is that proprietary software generally doesn't allow you to get your support from someone else
[18:42] schestowitz-TR even language literacy is low in some countries
[18:42] psydruid but maybe that's because of how primitive this field still is
[18:42] matey proprietary software generally doesn't allow you to get your support from someone else <- also true, at least in part
[18:43] matey its more true to say that proprietary software companies have an unfair advantage in support
[18:43] matey because they can have undocumented features or change things at will
[18:43] mjg59_ I don't see the move to a subscription model as meaningfully worse than the previous model in that respect
[18:43] matey its worse in other respects
[18:43] mjg59_ matey: Also, if the issue I'm hitting is that there's a bug or missing feature, nobody else has the right to fix that for me
[18:44] matey moving to a situation where the developers have even more control, while users have even less, is the problem
[18:44] matey nobody else has the right to fix that for me <- freedom 3 disagrees entirely
[18:44] matey of course nobody has a right to fix YOUR copy, even the copy you host in your repo
[18:44] matey but they can fork
[18:44] matey i do not want people fixing my stuff for me
[18:44] matey but they can fork it
[18:45] TR News KeepItOn: Turkmenistan rips a page from the authoritarian playbook, digitally disconnects nation - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/turkmenistan-digitally-disconnects-nation/ Source: accessnow
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[18:45] TR Bot #KeepItOn: Turkmenistan rips a page from the authoritarian playbook, digitally disconnects nation - Access Now
[18:45] matey and maybe their fixed version is better, who knows
[18:45] bnchs_ also the developers can sneak in a miner
[18:45] bnchs_ or malware
[18:45] bnchs_ anything
[18:45] mjg59_ matey: If the software's proprietary then the only people who can legally modify the software to fix my problem are the vendor, so I'm tied to getting support from the vendor
[18:45] matey you mean support in terms of fixes
[18:45] psydruid with centralized free software we got into the situation of others fixing things for us
[18:45] matey i meant support in terms of calling for help with the software
[18:46] psydruid and breaking things for us too
[18:46] TR News Says the company where older colleagues get labeled "dinobabies" and dismissed https://opensource.com/open-organization/22/4/open-world-inclusivity-norberg-review
[18:46] matey i suppose both are legitimate uses of the word "support"
[18:46] TR Bot The path to an open world begins with inclusivity
[18:46] mjg59_ matey: Yes, support often involves fixes or feature development, not just telling me how to use the software
[18:46] mjg59_ matey: That's what people are paying for in many cases
[18:47] matey theyre suckers then, if theyre paying microsoft for support
[18:47] matey they leave critical bugs in place for years, even after people find them
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[18:47] TR News Microsofters; "it appears that the most recent update to the game has rendered the FPS game unplayable on the portable gaming PC and other Linux Proton systems." https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck http://techrights.org/wiki/AARD
[18:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: pcgamesn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pcgamesn.com/halo-the-master-chief-collection/update-breaks-steam-deck
[18:47] TR Bot MCC update breaks the game on Steam Deck and Proton | PCGamesN
[18:47] TR Bot AARD - Techrights
[18:47] matey maybe we can setup a fund for red hat to just stop developing software altogether
[18:47] matey pay them to go away, like the mafia
[18:47] matey obviously it wouldnt work, if you pay people to go away theyll be back
[18:47] psydruid lol
[18:48] TR News "Between 2022-04-05 and 2022-04-12 there were 25 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 195 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 12.8 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-04-12/
[18:48] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-12 Edition - Boiling Steam
[18:48] psydruid so microsoft is breaking games on steam deck now
[18:48] matey theyre ever so helpful
[18:48] matey move fast and break competitors things
[18:48] psydruid exactly what DaemonFC told us would happen
[18:48] matey he knows microsoft
[18:48] bnchs_ oh
[18:48] bnchs_ it appears like
[18:49] bnchs_ my UPDATE has broken your support
[18:49] bnchs_ definitely an accident
[18:49] bnchs_ i swear
[18:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC mas "Microsoft MVP" at one point
[18:49] schestowitz-TR ages ago
[18:49] matey yes but
[18:49] matey im still disappointed he wasnt an exec
[18:49] matey i seriously pictured him going in with a briefcase and a suit and tie
[18:49] schestowitz-TR not corrupt enough
[18:50] matey then defecting
[18:50] matey i mean its to his credit obviously that he never did that
[18:50] psydruid I abandoned Microsoft before I could ever become a VIP
[18:50] matey but i had this whole image of him
[18:50] matey and now thats dashed to pieces
[18:50] schestowitz some recently did just that http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
[18:50] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[18:50] matey sure, microsoft has real defectors
[18:50] bnchs_ what about former windows NT devs
[18:50] matey but i thought there was one here
[18:51] matey like mjg defected from google (but im sure we dont believe that)
[18:51] schestowitz-TR defective from google
[18:51] matey its a well known fact that google pays people to be undercover in techrights irc for years at a time
[18:51] bnchs_ or gulag pays trolls
[18:51] bnchs_ to raid techrights irc
[18:51] bnchs_ and derail them with infighting
[18:52] matey tnot many people know this but GAFAM is actually a global syndicate, like SPECTRE
[18:52] matey they have an underground base in a volcano and everything
[18:52] TR News Games: Most Steam and Handhelds Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163633
[18:52] TR Bot Games: Most Steam and Handhelds | Tux Machines
[18:52] psydruid bnchs_, Dave Cutler was on The Verge of cutting himself with the cutlery stored in his cupboard
[18:53] matey ask mjg, he has a hairless cat which he named univac
[18:53] bnchs_ linux has this rootkit backdoor that linus added
[18:53] bnchs_ but you cant see it in the source code because
[18:53] bnchs_ well because
[18:54] matey also im actually from forbes. well, i cant confirm or deny that.
[18:54] TR News WTF are you doing, ICBM Red Hat? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-deploy-run-and-monitor-microsoft-sql-server-rhel
[18:54] psydruid it's metacode in the metaverse
[18:54] TR Bot How to deploy, run and monitor Microsoft SQL server on RHEL
[18:54] matey the matrixverse
[18:55] schestowitz-TR metaBIGdata
[18:55] schestowitz-TR it's just "big data"
[18:55] schestowitz-TR and just 'metadata"
[18:55] matey google never metadata it didnt like
[18:55] schestowitz-TR "moving along, nothing too sniff here
[18:56] schestowitz Zubin Mehta Data
[18:56] schestowitz he is till alive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zubin_Mehta
[18:56] TR Bot Zubin Mehta - Wikipedia
[18:57] matey zooby zooby zooby, zooby zooby zooby, zoo zoo
[18:58] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HXbq49vLRC8
[18:58] TR Bot "Zooby Zooby" Lyrical Video | Dance Dance | Alisha Chinoy | T-Series - Invidious
[18:58] TR News Red Hat uses proprietary software here https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/ http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/
[18:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: tfir.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tfir.io/enterprise-open-source-adoption-is-growing-red-hat-report/
[18:58] TR Bot Enterprise Open Source Adoption Is Growing: Red Hat Report - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya
[18:58] TR Bot Red Hats State of Enterprise Open Source Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights
[18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 48.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 344.63
[18:59] TR News Red Hat loves "Open Source" so much that sometimes it even uses it itself. Sometimes...
● Apr 12
[19:00] matey strangers in the night, exchanging data
[19:01] bnchs_ i didnt even know
[19:01] bnchs_ a PDF can leak information about whos using it
[19:01] bnchs_ and what software
[19:01] matey oh yeah
[19:01] bnchs_ maybe the software does it itself
[19:01] matey it can fucking go online too
[19:01] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: a lot more
[19:01] bnchs_ injects metadata without knowing
[19:02] matey you have three choices to keep a pdf from leaking data
[19:02] matey 1. open it without an internet connection
[19:02] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: use mat2
[19:02] matey 2. use a jail (even gnu/linux has one) to isolate it from the network
[19:02] schestowitz-TR it's in the repo
[19:02] matey 3. open it with a proxy, so at least the leak isnt tied to your ip
[19:02] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ mat2 -elp
[19:02] schestowitz usage: mat2 [-h] [-v] [-l] [--check-dependencies] [-V]
[19:02] schestowitz [--unknown-members policy] [-s | -L]
[19:03] schestowitz [files [files ...]]
[19:03] schestowitz mat2: error: unrecognized arguments: -elp
[19:03] matey you can also convert the pdf but i dont like this option as much
[19:03] bnchs_ matey: its not the pdf's fault
[19:03] matey as most of the converters suck
[19:03] bnchs_ i would say
[19:03] bnchs_ its the writer of the PDF's fault
[19:03] matey its not the pdf's fault <- i mean, if someone is brainwashed and reprogrammed to kill you its not their fault
[19:03] matey but you still shouldnt have them in for tea
[19:03] bnchs_ writers tend to inject very VERY detailed metadata
[19:03] bnchs_ into PDF
[19:04] schestowitz-TR bnchs_: your mind will blow over prints arcoding printouts in pale yellow
[19:04] bnchs_ without you knowing
[19:04] schestowitz-TR so the receiver can figure out where the paper came from
[19:04] bnchs_ yes
[19:04] bnchs_ thats the printer's fault
[19:04] bnchs_ not the paper
[19:04] matey solution: dont colour print
[19:04] schestowitz-TR *barcoding
[19:05] matey it will be interesting when people build their own high quality printers
[19:05] schestowitz-TR reality winner did not know
[19:05] schestowitz-TR smuggled papers in his pantyhose literally
[19:05] matey maybe the secret service will push towards cryptocurrency then
[19:05] schestowitz-TR then sent it to dirty pierre omidyar
[19:05] schestowitz-TR they burned many sources
[19:05] schestowitz-TR and they're still going
[19:05] matey or maybe all currency will have a tiny chip in it by then
[19:06] bnchs_ even if you print in color
[19:06] bnchs_ remember that printers sperg out
[19:06] bnchs_ about low color ink
[19:06] bnchs_ even if you print in B&W
[19:06] bnchs_ they secretly use the yellow ink
[19:06] matey no i mean dont use a colour printer
[19:06] bnchs_ in B&W
[19:06] matey not print in b&w on a colour printer
[19:07] bnchs_ matey: well idk about that
[19:07] schestowitz-TR new media campaign: onlyh pedohphiles print in b and w
[19:07] matey at some point people will figure out that half the world isnt pedos
[19:08] matey they exist, but they arent like 35% of the population
[19:08] matey so any time a movement is big enough, and they try to say "oh, theyre all perverts"
[19:08] matey well, obviously not
[19:09] bnchs_ only pedos use IRC
[19:09] matey and duckduckgo
[19:09] matey and linux
[19:09] matey its becoming as silly as no true scotsman
[19:09] matey "only a pedo would put sugar in his tea"
[19:10] matey you wouldnt download a child
[19:12] schestowitz-TR microsoft peter came here
[19:12] schestowitz-TR to troll us
[19:12] schestowitz-TR "drpizza"
[19:13] schestowitz-TR later he was arrested for raping kids
[19:13] schestowitz-TR while acting as microsoft's mole at arse technically pedo
[19:13] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fTaKDnSIb4c
[19:13] TR Bot The IT Crowd: Peter File - Invidious
[19:13] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163634
[19:13] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:14] matey microsoft peter came here <- i remember that story
[19:14] schestowitz-TR "peter, wtf are you doing here?"
[19:14] schestowitz-TR "we're all over 18"
[19:14] matey lol
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[19:15] schestowitz-TR he was not so Bright
[19:15] schestowitz-TR infantile mind
[19:15] schestowitz-TR but sucked up to Microsoft
[19:15] schestowitz-TR they used him
[19:16] schestowitz-TR of course the media never mentioned his relationship with Microsoft
[19:16] schestowitz-TR just "reporter"
[19:16] schestowitz-TR iirc, only sam varghese mentioned the Microsoft connection
[19:18] matey whats varghese up to these days
[19:19] schestowitz-TR not much, itwire stagnates
[19:19] schestowitz-TR far fewer stories
[19:19] matey tech press has nearly collapsed
[19:20] matey something about massaging press releases and doing fuck-all else doesnt help a lot
[19:20] schestowitz-TR " The media were happy to completely ignore the reality of declining real wages throughout the Reagan era "
[19:20] schestowitz-TR https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/12/the-reagan-and-biden-booms/
[19:20] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/12/the-reagan-and-biden-booms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/12/the-reagan-and-biden-booms/
[19:20] TR Bot Reagan and Biden Booms - CounterPunch.org
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[19:20] matey seems unsustainable
[19:20] schestowitz-TR "The hedge fund Alden Global Capital is notorious for plundering newspapers, relentlessly creating news deserts and ghost papers." https://fair.org/home/documenting-the-struggle-against-a-hedge-fund-stripping-journalism-for-parts/
[19:20] TR Bot Documenting the Struggle Against a Hedge Fund Stripping Journalism for Parts - FAIR
[19:20] matey one dept writes press releases, the other does marketing
[19:20] schestowitz-TR yes
[19:20] matey the tech press slaps them together and adds some animation, video snippets
[19:20] schestowitz-TR I get about 10 spam a day from PR agencies
[19:20] matey GRAPHICS!
[19:20] schestowitz-TR I delete immediately
[19:21] schestowitz-TR if they persist I shout at them
[19:21] matey "direct marketing"
[19:21] schestowitz-TR i always look at email addres first
[19:21] schestowitz-TR many say "comm" or "pr"
[19:21] schestowitz-TR so you know instant delete
[19:21] schestowitz-TR they target shits like spamnil
[19:21] bnchs_ only pedos go on techrights IRC
[19:22] bnchs_ like drpizza
[19:22] matey they should really shut it down
[19:22] schestowitz Years ago FOSS Force spoke about the corruption of Linux Foundation. Now, after getting money from Linux Foundation, it does puff pieces for the corrupt Linux Foundation. SJVN effect.
[19:22] schestowitz https://fossforce.com/2022/04/protecting-open-source-security-as-cold-war-turns-hot/
[19:22] TR Bot OpenSSF Protects Open Source Security as Cold War Turns Hot- FOSS Force
[19:22] matey the only legit network is libera chat
[19:22] bnchs_ i bet they still hire trolls
[19:22] bnchs_ to go on techrights IRC
[19:23] matey even if some of the other networks are sort of ok sometimes
[19:23] matey just to be safe its better to stick to just libera chat
[19:23] matey its what the fsf uses
[19:24] matey if anyone invites you to a self-hosted irc
[19:24] matey just say no, maybe report them
[19:24] MinceR illibera isn't safe, especially not for the fsf
[19:24] matey windows is perfectly safe, libera chat runs on windows, qed
[19:24] MinceR or at least it wouldn't be safe for them, if they still did something
[19:25] bnchs_ ok what about DAFnet
[19:25] matey i feel a lot safer knowing alexa is listening
[19:25] bnchs_ last time i went there
[19:25] matey if someone gets killed, alexa will say "hold on, let me find that for you"
[19:25] bnchs_ i saw tons of IRC color codes
[19:25] MinceR don't you mean DALnet?
[19:25] bnchs_ DALnet
[19:25] bnchs_ yes
[19:25] MinceR probably good
[19:25] bnchs_ tons of IRC color codes
[19:25] MinceR the last time i was there it was under heavy attack by script kiddies
[19:25] bnchs_ i mean i was used to seeing no colors
[19:25] bnchs_ then i saw dalnet
[19:26] MinceR colors aren't network-specific
[19:26] *matey has quit (connection closed)
[19:26] bnchs_ yes
[19:26] bnchs_ i know
[19:27] bnchs_ but techrights irc and liberachat had no color
[19:27] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/beaker.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-beaker#comic )
[19:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/beaker.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/beaker.png
[19:27] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[19:27] bnchs_ they rarely used colors
[19:27] MinceR think again!
[19:27] bnchs_ AHH
[19:27] MinceR lol
[19:36] TR News Links 12/04/2022: Ruby Patched and Linux 4.9.310 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/12/linux-4-9-310/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/12/linux-4-9-310/
[19:36] TR Bot Links 12/04/2022: Ruby Patched and Linux 4.9.310 Released | Techrights
[19:38] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163635
[19:38] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:38] TR News Open Hardware/Gadgets: Coverage of /e/OS and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163636
[19:38] TR Bot Open Hardware/Gadgets: Coverage of /e/OS and Arduino | Tux Machines
[19:38] TR News Openwashed Corporatism (IBM and SUSE) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163637
[19:38] TR Bot Openwashed Corporatism (IBM and SUSE) | Tux Machines
[19:38] TR News PeaZip 8.6 Released with More Customizable UI Layout, Improved Extraction and Archiving Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163638
[19:38] TR Bot PeaZip 8.6 Released with More Customizable UI Layout, Improved Extraction and Archiving | Tux Machines
[19:38] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163639
[19:38] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:40] schestowitz lol
[19:40] schestowitz lagrane would not start
[19:41] schestowitz "SDL init failed: Could not connect to PulseAudio"
[19:41] bnchs_ pulseaudio?
[19:41] MinceR lol
[19:41] schestowitz when you make a client for geminin in SDL...
[19:41] *bnchs (~bnchs@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights
[19:41] bnchs_ ah shit he came on bye
[19:41] *bnchs_ has quit (Quit: Quit)
[19:41] MinceR properly written SDL applications can work without poetteringaudio
[19:42] bnchs schestowitz, relying on pulseaudio is too much of a lockin
[19:42] bnchs for SDL programs
[19:44] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio --check
[19:44] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio -k
[19:44] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ pulseaudio -D
[19:44] schestowitz E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[19:44] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$
[19:44] schestowitz lol
[19:44] schestowitz welcome 2022
[19:44] schestowitz and NOW I can browser GEMINI
[19:44] schestowitz with no sounds in it
[19:44] schestowitz *browse
[19:44] schestowitz an application that does not even use sound
[19:45] schestowitz would not start without PA
[19:45] *bnchs_ (~bnchs_@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights
[19:45] MinceR turns out lagrange isn't only ugly and inflexible, but it's also poorly written
[19:45] bnchs_ thanks firefox
[19:45] bnchs_ consumed all my RAM in less than a second
[19:45] *bnchs has quit (connection closed)
[19:45] bnchs_ and completely froze my kernel
[19:45] bnchs_ fucking asshole
[19:46] MinceR welcome to the "modern" web
[19:46] *bnchs (~bnchs@k7khymixdihuq.irc) has joined #techrights
[19:46] bnchs_ it even consumed the swap
[19:46] bnchs_ which made my HDD usage go high up
[19:47] TR News Binary Coded Decimal gemini://hoseki.iensu.me/posts/binary-coded-decimal.gmi
[19:47] bnchs back
[19:47] TR News "So if you've read the last couple of entries on here you won't really be surprised to know that I'm quitting one of my jobs, the non-profit one that's been the source of a lot of my misery lately." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-11-quitting.gmi
[19:48] bnchs_ browsers dont have memory limit per page
[19:48] TR News "Yes, this is another post about my current project, mastersearch. But as progress was pretty good in the last two days, I thought I would just post a update." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/11/search-everything-with-dmenu/
[19:49] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D200.jpg
[19:49] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D558.jpg
[19:53] schestowitz-TR hmmm... our gemini proxy is offline
[19:53] schestowitz-TR fixing...
[19:53] schestowitz-TR first this this happens, since it started 2 months ago
[19:56] schestowitz-TR fixed
[19:56] schestowitz-TR need sleep now, back in a few, it's a long nap
[19:56] schestowitz-TR I'm on shift tonight :/
[19:57] bnchs one thing is
[19:58] bnchs your gemini proxy doesn't recognize code tags
[19:58] bnchs like ```
[19:59] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Im-Jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation,-making-it-that-much-more-Jewy.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-im-jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation-making-it-that-much-more-jewy#comic )
[19:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Im-Jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation,-making-it-that-much-more-Jewy.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Im-Jewish-so-this-counts-as-self-deprecation,-making-it-that-much-more-Jewy.png
[19:59] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[19:59] schestowitz-TR I've relayed your request
[19:59] schestowitz-TR that can be implemented
[19:59] schestowitz-TR in perl
● Apr 12
[20:00] TR News LXQt 1.1.0 Promises Major Visual Uplift and Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163640
[20:00] TR Bot LXQt 1.1.0 Promises Major Visual Uplift and Improvements | Tux Machines
[20:00] TR News Ubuntu MATE 22.04 New Features and Release Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163641
[20:00] TR Bot Ubuntu MATE 22.04 New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines
[20:10] AdmFubar https://b3ta.com/challenge/meta/
[20:10] Alternative link CloudFlare: b3ta.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://b3ta.com/challenge/meta/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://b3ta.com/challenge/meta/
[20:10] TR Bot challenge: meta
[20:11] bnchs AdmFubar, lol
[20:12] bnchs also nice lightweight website
[20:17] zuka https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpg Contra Strike might have copyright on META
[20:17] Alternative link CloudFlare: b3ta.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpg
[20:17] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/98688/1635491074/eta.jpg )
[20:18] zuka or maybe ETA does
[20:19] zuka is that site facebook with out java script?
[20:28] bnchs it's like 4chan
[20:28] bnchs maybe
[20:28] bnchs idk
[20:30] zuka its like something with out JS
[20:30] zuka or something like that
[20:31] zuka should i reboot after upfates?
[20:31] zuka updates
[20:32] zuka libx11 got update so i should right?
[20:33] zuka why is it that cromium asks me for some password at every boot and insists onb it 3 times
[20:34] zuka thats just annoying
[20:34] psydruid gulag is nosy
[20:34] psydruid labor liberates
[20:36] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/O0AK7RQ.jpeg
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[20:36] zuka i think its asking about some gnome feature called keyring
[20:37] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/singapore-to-license-pentesters-and-managed-infosec-operators/
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[20:37] TR Bot Singapore to license pentesters and managed infosec operators
[20:37] zuka i never entered anything f* that s*
[20:38] zuka can it be disabled?
[20:40] zuka must be some optin on about config
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[20:44] DaemonFC Okay, full synthetic 0w30 Delos oil change and Delco filter, new cabin air filter, new engine air filter, and a new Duracell Platinum AGM car battery and the terminals are cleaned and protected.
[20:44] DaemonFC Tomorrow, transmission fluid change and coolant flush.
[20:45] DaemonFC After I switched batteries, the TPMS light didn't come back.
[20:45] DaemonFC I think the computer just went weird or something.
[20:45] DaemonFC The car's computer was telling me that the battery voltage was getting weird and I popped the hood and looked and it's a Die Hard battery from Sears!
[20:46] DaemonFC Which is bankrupt and they don't even have auto centers anymore!
[20:46] DaemonFC These AGM batteries usually last a very long time. 7-8 years.
[20:46] DaemonFC Sometimes more.
[20:46] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/ngeurope_eng/status/1513881380622671872
[20:46] TR Bot Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@ngeurope_eng): "Here are some of Putins quotes from todays joint press conference with Belarusian leader Lukashenko: Whats happening in Ukraine is a tragedy, without a doubt, but Russia had no other choice. Ukraine, Belarus and Russia are three united nations." | nitter
[20:47] DaemonFC They don't work the alternator as hard either, so they'll last longer.
[20:48] DaemonFC An alternator that works harder is putting out more heat. Really shortens the life.
[20:49] zuka elon musk should had bought nitter instead of twitter because its got no w in it
[20:50] MinceR hopefully nitter is not for sale
[20:51] XRevan86 MinceR: It's too free for that.
[20:52] psydruid Prison as a Service
[20:52] XRevan86 "elon musk should had bought nitter instead of twitter because its got no w in it" <- I'm trying really hard to understand this reference.
[20:53] zuka elon musk was twirring that twitter should drop the w
[20:53] XRevan86 Oh. Hilarious.
[20:54] XRevan86 I guess he does have things in common with Rogozin.
[20:54] XRevan86 Or with activelow :)
[20:56] bnchs nitter?
[20:57] zuka i guess knitter was aready taken
[20:57] bnchs elon musk should kill himself
[20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 379.63
● Apr 12
[21:00] zuka does IPFS records every transaction just like bitcoin does?
[21:01] zuka thats the best copyright enforcement thing ever
[21:04] AdmFubar https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html
[21:04] TR Bot Release Notes
[21:05] AdmFubar twitter just reminds me of monty python sketches
[21:11] AdmFubar https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-president-admits-antitrust-complaints-against-company-highlight-valid-concerns
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[21:11] TR Bot Microsoft President admits antitrust complaints against company highlight 'valid concerns' | Windows Central
[21:16] AdmFubar https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/this-biden-proposal-could-make-the-us-a-digital-dictatorship/
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[21:16] TR Bot This Biden Proposal Could Make the US a Digital Dictatorship
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[21:19] AdmFubar https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/wearable-solutions-and-the-internet-of-incarceration/
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[21:19] TR Bot Wearable "Solutions" and the Internet of Incarceration
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[21:45] AdmFubar Mr. Hyde anyone? https://www.cynerio.com/jekyllbot-5-command-center
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[21:45] TR Bot JekyllBot:5 Command Center
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[22:27] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/diagnosis.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-diagnosis#comic )
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[22:27] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[22:30] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fedora-36-beta-the-new-adwaita-gtk4-work-breaks-the-world-causes-confusion-but-the-performance-is-terrific/
[22:30] TR Bot Fedora 36 Beta: The new Adwaita/GTK4 work breaks the world, causes confusion, but the performance is terrific. BaronHK's Rants
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[22:38] DaemonFC schestowitz, The Chevy dealer had their mechanic go over the car with their usual "inspect everything and recommend all services possible" routine.
[22:39] DaemonFC And when they were done with the Buick the guy said "I have never seen a 14 year old car that looked this good. The only thing that I could recommend is replacing the hood struts.".
[22:39] DaemonFC I said, "I already ordered some from China.
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[22:47] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hCuMWrfXG4E
[22:47] TR Bot Billy Joel - Uptown Girl (Official Video) - Invidious
[22:49] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/250244
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[22:49] TR Bot German authorities to nationalize energy companies in a crisis and wean the country off Russian gas in two years
[22:50] DaemonFC Glad I didn't get a lemon for that sack full of $100s.
[22:50] matey or a sack of 100 lemons
[22:50] DaemonFC "I don't know if these are still worth anything, man. I mean they are Biden dollars.".
[22:51] bnchs when life gives you lemons
[22:51] DaemonFC GET MAD!
[22:51] DaemonFC DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER!
[22:51] DaemonFC MAKE LIFE RUE THE DAY IT THOUGHT IT COULD GIVE CAVE JOHNSON CANCER!
[22:51] bnchs yeah i knew that was a portal reference
[22:51] DaemonFC BURN LIFE'S HOUSE DOWN WITH THE LEMONS!
[22:51] XRevan86 bnchs: Make Earl of Lemongrab?
[22:52] MinceR :>
[22:52] DaemonFC DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M GOING TO GET MY ENGINEERS TO MAKE COMBUSTIBLE LEMONS!
[22:52] bnchs no
[22:52] bnchs you're all not thinking well
[22:52] bnchs make a lemonparty
[22:52] bnchs ;)
[22:52] matey eww
[22:52] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/ZzSBka1.jpeg
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[22:56] XRevan86 https://yewtu.be/uVFU6dss3sE
[22:56] TR Bot POV: The Lock Picking Lawyer is Outside your Bunker - Invidious
[22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 334.01
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[23:00] MinceR Want to know how I got these cars? >> https://i.imgur.com/UBz5m9k.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/n1S6HbG )
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[23:00] TR Bot to know how I got these cars? - Album on Imgur
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[23:16] TR News written on Pinebook Pro gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/phlog/2022-03-25-mo.txt
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[23:17] TR News New-to-me Mandolin gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-04-12-new_mandolin.gmi
[23:18] TR News A sort of 'photojournalism' in Gemini gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/korruptor/blog/2022-04-12-OLL22.gmi
[23:20] TR News "In this blog, we will be introducing the concept of High-performance computing (HPC) and HPC clusters. We will also introduce a few categories of practical workloads important in the HPC space." https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-high-performance-computing-hpc-part-1
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[23:20] TR Bot is High-performance computing (HPC)? [part 1] | Ubuntu
[23:22] TR News PostgreSQL: pg_dbms_job v1.2.0 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_dbms_job-v120-released-2435/ Source: postgresql
[23:22] TR Bot PostgreSQL: pg_dbms_job v1.2.0 released
[23:23] TR News On "privacy initiatives" by spying companies... like Mozilla https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/12/competition-should-not-be-weaponized-to-hobble-privacy-protections-on-the-open-web/
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[23:23] TR Bot Competition should not be weaponized to hobble privacy protections on the open web - Open Policy & Advocacy
[23:24] TR News Michael now shows just two from the AMD 'crate' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-aocc-milanx&num=1 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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[23:24] TR Bot AOCC Performance On EPYC 7773X Milan-X Against GCC, Clang Compilers Review - Phoronix
[23:24] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
[23:25] TR News "April is a transition month, with the season starting to change from winter to spring, and a new quarter is beginning to unfold. A lot to plan, but it also means a lot of things to be excited about. With that spirit, lets see what the Mozilla Support community has been up to these days..." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2022/04/11/whats-up-with-sumo-april-2022/
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[23:25] TR Bot Whats up with SUMO April 2022 The Mozilla Support Blog
[23:27] TR News IBM openwashing surveillance, or spying "lite", with Microsoft proprietary GitHub (tied to NSA) https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/12/observability-2022-why-it-matters-and-how-opentelemetry-can-help
[23:27] TR Bot Observability in 2022: Why it matters and how OpenTelemetry can help | Red Hat Developer
[23:29] TR News ICBM Red Hat uses GNU logo while attacking the founder of GNU, defaming him to hijack his work/projects https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/12/state-static-analysis-gcc-12-compiler
[23:29] TR Bot The state of static analysis in the GCC 12 compiler | Red Hat Developer
[23:29] TR News FAQ: The EUs plan to regulate political ads - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/eu-regulation-political-ads/ Source: accessnow
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[23:29] TR Bot FAQ: The EUs plan to regulate political ads - Access Now
[23:30] TR News IFF writes to the Chief Secretary of Rajasthan urging greater scrutiny of internet shutdown orders. KeepItOn https://internetfreedom.in/iff-writes-to-the-chief-secretary-of-rajasthan-urging-greater-scrutiny-of-internet-shutdown-orders-keepiton/ Source: internetfreedom
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[23:30] TR Bot IFF writes to the Chief Secretary of Rajasthan urging greater scrutiny of internet shutdown orders. #KeepItOn
[23:31] TR News The Great Resignation myth/narrative is being promoted by IBM, which lays off its own workforce https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-hiring-4-tips-retain-attract-top-it-talent
[23:31] TR Bot IT hiring: 4 tips to retain and attract top IT talent right now | The Enterprisers Project
[23:32] TR News ICBM pushing buzzwords at the expense of actual substance or science https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/agile-hybrid-work-benefits
[23:32] TR Bot Agile: 3 ways your organization can benefit during hybrid work | The Enterprisers Project
[23:33] TR News "This year the syslog-ng project will participate in the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) as a mentor organization again. If you are a university student or otherwise eligible to participate in the GSoC program, you can choose to develop a new feature for syslog-ng." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-in-gsoc-2022
[23:33] TR Bot in GSoC 2022 - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
[23:34] matey /me sees tuxmachines is up
[23:34] TR News "Some criticisms though; the GUI has limited adjustments, mostly just colours. You copy an existing theme, then modify colours -- and you can't import a theme. Another criticism is that the generated theme is large, mostly because, for gtk 3.20+, it has a file 'gtk.gresource' that is about 5MB." https://bkhome.org/news/202204/oomox-gtk-theme-designer.html
[23:34] TR Bot Oomox GTK theme designer
[23:35] TR News "In this project, were going to be making a set of wirelessly controlled animatronic eyes. Ive been wanting to do this project for a while, so when Quantum Integration launched their new Motor & Servo Driver board, this project immediately came to mind." https://www.the-diy-life.com/3d-printed-wireless-joystick-controlled-animatronic-eyes/
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[23:35] TR Bot 3D Printed Wireless Joystick Controlled Animatronic Eyes - The DIY Life
[23:36] schestowitz-TR matey: yes, took a lot of effort
[23:36] TR News Use of isset() Function in PHP https://linuxhint.com/isset-function-php/ Source: LinuxHint | PHP | FreeSW
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[23:36] TR Bot Use of isset() Function in PHP
[23:37] matey upgrades soon now
[23:38] schestowitz-TR matey: rms talk today
[23:38] schestowitz-TR weds
[23:38] TR News "How do different free and open source software projects do mentorship, and how can we all learn from each other? Daniel Garcia Moreno (EndlessOS Foundation and GNOME), Emily Gonyer (openSUSE), Ilmari Lauhakangas (The Document Foundation), and Marie Nordin (Fedora) discuss this in a panel moderated by Ben Cotton" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/12/panel-discussion-on-mentorship-fedora-mentor-summit-2022-including-lib
[23:38] TR Bot Panel Discussion on Mentorship (Fedora Mentor Summit 2022) including LibreOffice - The Document Foundation Blog
[23:38] matey still 10 where you are, iicc
[23:38] schestowitz-TR 23:40
[23:38] matey but yes ive been counting down
[23:38] matey oh youre on dst now
[23:39] schestowitz-TR Even Linux FoundationForce mentioned this talk
[23:39] schestowitz-TR mentioned by a signer of the letter
[23:39] schestowitz-TR and former OSI
[23:39] matey that sounds sinister
[23:39] schestowitz-TR who sold to the org that was once criticised... because of money
[23:39] matey maybe he really is a hostage
[23:40] matey maybe he will announce a partnership with github
[23:40] matey yes im being cynical
[23:40] matey except the sinister part
[23:40] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032433
[23:40] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/jtazo4nb9to81.jpg created on 2022-03-24 07:17:31.043950
[23:40] TR News IBM zSystems: Add support for z16 as CPU name. https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=82a4c5c704433249aa2adc89ef58b6b70e50c930 Source: gcc | ibm
[23:40] TR Bot Git - gcc.git/commitdiff
[23:41] matey i dont think the fsf is going to turn away from "ruinous compromise" but i do think they will make greater efforts at obfuscation
[23:41] matey cloaking, gaslighting, "marketing"
[23:42] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I found a Buick LaCrosse one model year newer at Carvana with about the same mileage.
[23:42] matey im not the only cynic in this bunch. i dont really think im cynical either
[23:42] DaemonFC They wanted an additional $3,000 for it.
[23:42] TR News How come the Microsoft boosters at BleepingComputer never use similar wording like 1.5 billion Windows users impacted...? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-hp-teradici-pcoip-flaws-impact-15-million-endpoints/
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[23:42] TR Bot Critical HP Teradici PCoIP flaws impact 15 million endpoints
[23:42] DaemonFC Carvana is a bubble.
[23:42] matey but the funnier lines about it are
[23:43] DaemonFC Those idiots down in Skokie are going to be so sorry when they let Carvana build a "glass vending machine" there and only to watch it go bankrupt.
[23:43] matey it vends glass?
[23:43] DaemonFC No, it's like, a car vending machine that you can see into.
[23:43] matey /me presses b5 and feeds in 16,000 ones
[23:44] MinceR it's going to take a while to put in all those coins
[23:44] DaemonFC You go up to a kiosk and tell it which one you want and it sets you up to pay for it or finance it with them, or you punch in a code for one you paid for and it pops out and hands you the keys.
[23:44] DaemonFC It's dumb.
[23:44] matey 15,997, 15,998...
[23:44] TR News "Open-source Audacity can record and edit audio files on more tracks than you can imagine. It then outputs exactly what you need. It is perfect for noobs and pros alike, on any desktop OS." https://www.pcmag.com/picks/best-free-software
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[23:44] TR Bot Best Free Software of 2022 | PCMag
[23:44] MinceR and then the car gets damaged when it gets pushed out by the helix and falls to the opening
[23:44] matey /me tries to rock the machine
[23:44] MinceR :)
[23:44] matey fuckers heavy as fuck
[23:44] DaemonFC It's a really stupid way to buy a car because you're going to pay about 25-30% more on the car, plus you may decide to finance it and they want you to go 7 years at 14%.
[23:44] DaemonFC LOL
[23:45] TR News "Im happy to announce that Qt 6.3 has been released today. As always, the release is packed with many new features as well as a large amount of bug fixes." Still proprietary software though. No-go area? https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.3-released
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[23:45] TR Bot Qt 6.3 released
[23:45] matey does it include a coke at least? preferably a cold one
[23:45] matey for that price they could throw in some pretzels
[23:45] matey and a snickers
[23:45] TR News Microsoft tumbles as UBS suggests Office 365 could see 'gentle deceleration' (NASDAQ:MSFT) | Seeking Alpha https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration Source: seekingalpha http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials
[23:45] Alternative link CloudFlare: seekingalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3822364-microsoft-tumbles-as-ubs-suggests-office-365-could-see-gentle-deceleration
[23:45] TR Bot Microsoft tumbles as UBS suggests Office 365 could see 'gentle deceleration' (NASDAQ:MSFT) | Seeking Alpha
[23:45] TR Bot Microsoft - Financials - Techrights
[23:46] MinceR dunno, but there are some that can cool your coke down for you
[23:46] MinceR like Land Cruisers :>
[23:46] matey maybe one of those pine tree air fresheners that smell like the diseases they likely cause
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[23:46] TR News Microsoft = corruption. Bribes. Crime. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
[23:46] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[23:46] MinceR what disease smells like pine trees?
[23:46] matey beaveritis
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[23:46] matey ive only heard of it, it sounds terrible
[23:47] TR News Move to LibreOffice https://www.techradar.com/in/news/microsoft-365-is-getting-a-rather-uncharitable-price-hike stop supporting crimes; quit paying criminals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988
[23:47] TR Bot 365 is getting a rather uncharitable price hike | TechRadar
[23:47] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[23:48] DaemonFC does it include a coke at least? preferably a cold one
[23:48] schestowitz https://lwn.net/Articles/891052/
[23:48] TR Bot kernel 4.9.310 [LWN.net]
[23:48] schestowitz "The 4.9.310 stable kernel update has been released; the changes consist mostly of backported Spectre mitigation patches. "
[23:48] schestowitz I've not seen Microsoft Levin for a while...
[23:48] DaemonFC I admit I go to the dealerships to use oil change coupons and suck them dry of Diet Pepsis in the waiting room.
[23:48] DaemonFC Nobody there cares.
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[23:48] MinceR lol
[23:49] DaemonFC MARISOL was bragging that they had complimentary sodas at BMW.
[23:49] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS3LWOTCW4A
[23:49] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wS3LWOTCW4A
[23:49] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Naked Gun - Nice Beaver - Invidious
[23:49] MinceR DaemonFC: lol
[23:49] matey and suck them dry of Diet Pepsis in the waiting room. <- goddammit enough with the straight lines
[23:49] DaemonFC I said, "So does Chevy but I didn't need a $1,200 wheel bearing to get a Coke.".
[23:49] MinceR DaemonFC: well, at least MARISOL could get something at BMW that doesn't suck
[23:49] TR News Ksplice Known Exploit Detection for VM_IO Use After Free, BPF bounds checking, and more https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001
[23:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: oracle.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/ksplice-known-exploit-detection-001
[23:49] bnchs__ schestowitz, does your website's cert SHA 256 fingerprint begin with a 2D:E3:9F:A3:85:46:B6:B6
[23:49] matey regulars here already know marisol sucks enough for everybody
[23:50] DaemonFC Carvana basically buys up people's old cars and sells them to you.
[23:50] TR News "Today's story, from a reader Regomised as "Al", concerns his time at a company in the 1980s. The company was working on a project to replace thousands of ageing "dumb" terminals with PCs. "The Great PC Invasion and Distributed Computing Revolution were under way," Al observed." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/
[23:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/who_me/
[23:50] DaemonFC So it's hoping that instead of you finding a car at a fair price, private party, they can just suck up the market of decent used cars and then raise prices.
[23:51] DaemonFC They're a predatory car lot that's saying they're a tech company.
[23:51] DaemonFC More mjg59_ "San Francisco People Get It" crap.
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[23:52] matey the linkin park pirates
[23:52] matey the california chapter
[23:52] DaemonFC From Wilmette to Gary, there's nothing so hairy, and we always collect our fee!
[23:52] matey they need to use the vending machine idea to get your car back
[23:53] matey jokes on them if you have arms like mr fantastic
[23:53] DaemonFC And when all the cars are collected
[23:53] DaemonFC And all of their fenders are ruined
[23:53] DaemonFC Then I'll tow every boat in Belmont Harbor
[23:53] DaemonFC To the Lincoln Park Lagoon
[23:53] DaemonFC And when I've collected the ransom
[23:53] DaemonFC And sunk all the ones that won't yield
[23:53] DaemonFC Then I'll tow all the planes that are blocking the runways
[23:53] DaemonFC At Midway, O'Hare and Meigs Field!
[23:54] DaemonFC (Meigs Field is gone.)
[23:54] DaemonFC Mayor Richard J. Daley blew it up.
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[23:54] DaemonFC He reckoned paying the $40,000 fine to the FAA for illegally closing an airport (now a million dollars because of him), it would avoid court costs to sue the feds to allow it to shut down.
[23:55] matey maybe they should have named it after him, it might still exist
[23:55] DaemonFC It belongs to the parks department now.
[23:55] DaemonFC He said he was worried about another 9/11 because there was an airfield so close to the buildings downtown.
[23:55] DaemonFC But that makes no sense.
[23:56] matey yes, thats how it works
[23:56] TR News
[23:56] DaemonFC The hijackers that day flew the planes several hundred miles.
[23:56] TR News Git has security only on Microsoft Windows (the NSA back doors) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/xmqqv8veb5i6.fsf@gitster.g/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[23:56] matey because planes looking to crash always check for an airstrip first
[23:56] DaemonFC O'Hare and Midway are only about a few miles from the buildings.
[23:56] matey before shoving themselves into a tall building
[23:57] DaemonFC Old versions of Microsoft Flight Simulator have Meigs Field.
[23:57] TR News "Google has released Chrome version 100.0.4896.88 for Windows, Mac, and Linux. This version addresses vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/12/google-releases-security-updates-chrome https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/04/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_11.html
[23:57] matey just like the ones in 9/11 were full of fuel-- because they were hoping to slam into the eiffel tower (but they got lost)
[23:57] TR News US says internet services are exempt from Russian sanctions https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/11/23020221/us-russian-sanctions-treasury-department-exemption-internet-services because US spies on Russia
[23:57] matey and no one stopped them because no one likes frenchies anyway
[23:58] DaemonFC They chose international flights so they'd have lots of fuel.
[23:58] bnchs__ https://youtube.com/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE
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[23:58] TR News Costa Rica: first country to call for a moratorium on spyware technology https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ Source: accessnow
[23:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/costa-rica-first-country-moratorium-spyware/
[23:59] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0fJQ-EoQauE
[23:59] bnchs__ linux apps sucks
[23:59] TR News "Mary Gartside's Essay antedates James Sowerbys and Goethes treatises on colour, while its illustrations have been deemed some of the earlier examples of abstraction in painting." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/gartside-theory-of-colours/
[23:59] matey Old versions of Microsoft Flight Simulator have Meigs Field. <- but the mayor had it removed so terrorists couldnt practice missing it entirely
[23:59] bnchs__ all my boys hate linux apps
[23:59] bnchs__ also the techrights bot is dead
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[00:32] TR Bot 2022.15 Wordling Rakudo Weekly News
[00:32] TR News "SmokeMachine reported on IRC to have found an unusual use of subset." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/04/11/a-subset-of-red/
[00:32] TR Bot A Subset of Red | Playing Perl 6b6xA Raku
[00:32] TR News "Tyler Limkemann returns (after an extended absence) with a very nice article about how they used the Raku Programming Language to solve Wordle challenges. With plenty of code and theoretical background." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/04/11/2022-15-wordling/
[00:33] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: devDevs
[00:33] bnchs__ now be prepared for
[00:33] bnchs__ DevBallSecksOps
[00:33] schestowitz MedveDEV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin-Medvedev_tandemocracy?wprov=srpw1_0
[00:33] TR Bot Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy - Wikipedia
[00:35] TR News "Hello, everyone --let's review the Apache community's activities from over the past week" https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-weekly-news-round21
[00:35] TR Bot The Apache Weekly News Round-up: week ending 8 April 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
[00:35] psydruid SpecialMilitaryOps
[00:36] bnchs__ Microsoft(R) Presents
[00:36] bnchs__ SpecialMilitaryOps
[00:36] bnchs__ PLS GIVE US YOUR TAX MONEY!!!!
[00:36] schestowitz-TR TAXOps
[00:37] schestowitz-TR lessons of Monday:
[00:37] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot
[00:37] schestowitz-TR (also why I didn't post anything)
[00:37] schestowitz-TR never mistakenly try to upload concurrently 150MB every 5 minutes
[00:37] schestowitz-TR concurrently
[00:37] schestowitz-TR you will suffocate your home networek
[00:37] bnchs__ wow
[00:38] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot
[00:38] bnchs__ i don't even upload that much
[00:38] bnchs__ i can't say the same for most people in this country
[00:38] bnchs__ suffocating my entire ISP
[00:38] bnchs__ instead of a home network
[00:38] TR News "In this video, we are looking at how to install Flightgear on Debian 11." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE
[00:38] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE
[00:38] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=UHUT3ScE3NE )
[00:38] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: it was a mistake
[00:39] schestowitz-TR generated i
[00:39] schestowitz-TR in a most bizarre
[00:39] schestowitz-TR way
[00:39] bnchs__ also privacy.gd is still dead
[00:39] bnchs__ maybe a outage
[00:39] bnchs__ or maintence
[00:39] TR News "Most Arch Linux installers including the primary iso require an internet connection to complete the installation process but what if you don't have one well you're in luck because Arch Boot exists." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU
[00:39] TR Bot https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=mb3ykTklnWU
[00:39] TR Bot invidious.weblibre.org | How To Install Arch Linux With NO INTERNET - Invidious
[00:40] XRevan86 Mariupol is not taken.
[00:40] bnchs__ how to install arch linux with no internet?
[00:40] TR News "Firewalls are made to protect the network from any threat by filtering both the in and outbound traffic and ensuring network security as well. The first thing when we talk about the 9 best open source firewalls is that they are free, well let us explain such a term for [Free] software" https://dekisoft.com/best-free-open-source-firewall/
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[00:40] TR Bot Best Free Open Source Firewall in 2022 - Windows/Linux - DekiSoft
[00:40] bnchs__ that's a dream
[00:41] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: not in one bite
[00:42] XRevan86 The Mariupol defenders claim that the chemical attack was not effective, and just three persons have severe symptoms.
[00:42] TR News WTH is "Gaming Monitor"? Way to charge several times more for the same thing and bribe sites like "maketecheasier" for hype. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/lg-27-ultrascreen-gaming-monitor/
[00:42] TR Bot Save $120 on an LG 27" Ultrascreen Gaming Monitor - Make Tech Easier
[00:43] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: they should catapultin it back to putler
[00:43] bnchs__ it's a GAYMING MOONITIER
[00:43] bnchs__ Boasting, aa
[00:43] bnchs__ a
[00:43] bnchs__ HIGHER PRICE
[00:43] bnchs__ and NO DIFFERENCES
[00:43] bnchs__ from a regular monitor
[00:43] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 730 for the week of April 3 9, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/04/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-730/
[00:44] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 730
[00:44] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: try gaming mouse
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming keyboard
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming shoes for PC gaming
[00:44] MinceR > WTH is "Gaming Monitor"?
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming gloves
[00:44] schestowitz-TR gaming pizza
[00:44] *schestowitz-TR gets a gaming teamug
[00:44] MinceR typically it has higher refresh frequency and shorter response time
[00:44] MinceR which leads to lower input lag
[00:45] schestowitz-TR like those gaming wifi things
[00:45] MinceR the one i have here also caters to TFPS players by having an option for adding a crosshair :>
[00:45] schestowitz-TR which claim the connection is better
[00:45] schestowitz-TR lower latency
[00:45] schestowitz-TR I bet you can get the same without Gaming(TM)
[00:45] schestowitz-TR you just buy a decent machine
[00:45] bnchs__ MinceR: i thought all the games already had that
[00:45] schestowitz-TR MinceR: "legit" cheating
[00:46] MinceR the good ones have it
[00:46] MinceR "modern" "tactical" FPS-es don't
[00:46] schestowitz-TR "I only took 'a little' EPO"
[00:46] MinceR or they have one that often disappears, or grows to the size of a house
[00:46] schestowitz-TR tim swine-e's server gets kernel report about "unauthorised" monitor
[00:47] bnchs__ be ready for the new fortnite pack
[00:47] bnchs__ gaming monitor
[00:48] MinceR fortinayti ile babacii
[00:48] TR News Years ago FOSS Force spoke about the corruption of Linux Foundation. Now, after getting money from Linux Foundation, it does puff pieces for the corrupt Linux Foundation. SJVN effect. https://fossforce.com/2022/04/protecting-open-source-security-as-cold-war-turns-hot/
[00:48] TR Bot OpenSSF Protects Open Source Security as Cold War Turns Hot- FOSS Force
[00:48] bnchs__ iybir ikis ikis ikis ikis ile GIRAAFIDADODINIII
[00:48] MinceR :>
[00:49] bnchs__ i don't know how they got grand theft auto to sound like that
[00:49] MinceR i don't know either
[00:49] MinceR i know the subtitles are turkish but i don't know what language they were actually speaking in
[00:50] TR News Microsoft, Microsoft... more than anything else https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/11/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
[00:50] TR Bot CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
[00:50] TR Bot Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog | CISA
[00:51] TR News Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online tomorrow.
[00:51] TR Bot Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[00:53] kingoffrance literally from a cover/title page ignorat terminis ignoratur et ars and je sais que chaque science et chaque art a ses termes propres, inconnus au commun des hommes any fundamentalism type "plain english" "law" is "bad faith" by definition
[00:53] TR News Destination Linux 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 https://destinationlinux.org/episode-273/
[00:53] TR Bot 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 - Destination Linux
[00:54] TR News Jussi Pakkanen: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch" https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/04/getting-web-proxys-and-certificates.html
[00:54] TR Bot Nibble Stew: Getting web proxys and certificates working on Linux or "if it's all the same to you, I'd rather take a thousand years of the Sarlacc pit, thankyouverymuch"
[00:55] bnchs__ MinceR, https://youtube.com/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo
[00:55] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=MKALbpKuDdo
[00:55] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | fortnite or pubg 2 but other words - Invidious
[00:55] TR News "Because all Librem computers share are built on base OS/PureOS, there are many crossovers when it comes to software. Here is the guide you can use for all Librem Computers." https://puri.sm/posts/definitive-guide-to-user-documentation-for-librem-devices/
[00:55] TR Bot Definitive Guide to User Documentation for Librem Devices Purism
[00:57] bnchs__ figured out his name
[00:57] bnchs__ lilhancha
[00:57] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/search?q=lilhancha
[00:57] TR Bot lilhancha - Invidious
[00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 347.15
● Apr 12
[01:04] TR News How to Install and NSA shit on GNU/Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-ghidra-linux/ Source: makeuseof
[01:04] TR Bot How to Install and Run Ghidra on Linux
[01:06] TR News Ubuntu News and HowTos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163618
[01:06] TR Bot Ubuntu News and HowTos | Tux Machines
[01:07] TR News Firefox Nightly: These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/
[01:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/11/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-113/
[01:07] TR Bot These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 113 Firefox Nightly News
[01:07] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163619
[01:07] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:07] bnchs__ i used ghidra
[01:07] bnchs__ yes i know
[01:08] TR News Salix 15.0-alpha1 is release. But no message yet in https://blog.salixos.org/
[01:08] TR Bot The Salix Blog
[01:09] TR News "To take advantage of performance improvements, the latest security-vulnerability enhancements, and bug fixes, we've upgraded JRE for Cassandra and Elasticsearch. Both, Cassandra and Elasticsearch will now use JRE 8u322. Other components will now use JRE 11.0.14." https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/DYNATRACE-INC-63216144/news/Dynatrace-Managed-release-notes-version-1-238-40023980/
[01:09] TR Bot : Managed release notes version 1.238 | MarketScreener
[01:10] TR News Those are not "Linux" things; you are reinforcing misconceptions about what Linux actually is... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657050/demystifying-and-on-linux.html
[01:10] TR Bot Demystifying &&, ||, and ! on Linux | Network World
[01:11] TR News Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs https://hurricanelabs.com/blog/extracting-credentials-from-multifunction-devices Source: hurricanelabs
[01:11] TR Bot Extracting Credentials from Multifunction Devices - Hurricane Labs
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[01:16] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163620
[01:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163620 )
[01:35] schestowitz-TR yikes
[01:35] schestowitz-TR I think the DB shat itself
[01:38] bnchs__ wtf
[01:38] schestowitz-TR it happened years ago as well
[01:38] schestowitz-TR an innodb error
[01:38] bnchs__ well at least it didn't happen like my ministry of education's website
[01:39] chunky failed kindergarten + your shower never gets cleaned + u watch and enjoy LRH every week + hoes mad + u take yr socks off on airplanes + broken startup scripts + you use mac
[01:39] MinceR lol @ LRH
[01:40] bnchs__ wtf is LRH
[01:40] schestowitz-TR XRevan86 is good at these things
[01:41] MinceR lafayette ronald hubbard, cult founder
[01:41] XRevan86 What things?
[01:41] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I will share with you excerpts
[01:41] bnchs__