●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 ●● ● Nov 11 [00:00] schestowitz hmmm... it uses colour though [00:00] schestowitz we cannot do shades in utf-8 files [00:01] schestowitz fim isn't fit for purpose then [00:01] schestowitz giving up on this for now [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:22] *timur_demin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [00:23] *tdemin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:51] *DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: tenor_gif2011649917674315514_207326285102576.gif (160KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/yMrNzTKVWnEoeMUcwKCSlrJj/tenor_gif2011649917674315514_207326285102576.gif > [00:56] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Nov 11 [01:02] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:31] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 - A full computer in a keyboard! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-27105 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7027b405-5c52-42bd-9794-d4de3635902a] [01:38] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: This New System76 Linux Laptop Packs Something Special http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144229#comment-27106 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4bb5f46c-b384-45ba-be8c-31ae2e5d0f4b] [01:48] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144234 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f537ccb9-4d84-4530-8e4c-274b18571302] ● Nov 11 [02:26] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google, Andreessen Horowitz lead $29M round for Linux kernel networking startup Isovalent http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144235 [https://pleroma.site/objects/544d49da-23a6-442e-ba56-76b3e7168039] [02:28] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144236 [https://pleroma.site/objects/52eac525-17c4-4d05-bea0-d75080e8eea5] [02:44] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144237 [https://pleroma.site/objects/365d910a-d15f-468e-bd04-1e5102bfcf1f] [02:49] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Linux 5.9.8, 5.4.77, 4.19.157, 4.14.206, 4.9.243, and 4.4.243 released with #security fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144227#comment-27107 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5850af07-0d6b-483c-9b40-829f9ff3274e] [02:57] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [02:58] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Plasma 5.20.3 Desktop Update Arrives with More Than 30 Bug Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144233 [https://pleroma.site/objects/11dcddbf-84df-4c93-ad4f-73958fbbde0e] ● Nov 11 [03:12] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Talk Python To Me Podcast, Vifm and LINUX Unplugged http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144239 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5ed1cfbe-4e9c-471c-bc5d-d7da3b3b9a66] [03:14] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.10 Gets Its First Linux Kernel Security Patch, Update Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144238 [https://pleroma.site/objects/599e376b-7141-48cd-beff-66a48dd6636b] [03:23] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: SDL2, Everafter Falls and Godot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144240 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37eb7827-aa8a-401a-902c-74f8b9c7e0de] [03:27] DaemonFC[m] That's nice. [03:27] DaemonFC[m] I got a Firefox ESR 78.5 upgrade and it says no release notes yet. ● Nov 11 [04:38] *tessier (~treed@kernel-panic/copilotco) has joined #techrights [04:58] *oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:58] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights ● Nov 11 [05:28] *umask5 (c11d51e7@193.29.81.231) has joined #techrights [05:50] *umask5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Nov 11 [06:11] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Save The Planet, Kill Yourself! https://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/) [06:28] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc0f:7c00:9d78:8894:8f6f:9e9d) has joined #techrights [06:54] *peppe8o (5d30bcd6@93.48.188.214) has joined #techrights [06:55] peppe8o Hello [06:55] peppe8o I whould like to speak with Roy Schestowitz [06:55] peppe8o how can I do? [06:55] peppe8o (Mr. Roy Schestowitz) ● Nov 11 [07:02] peppe8o someone available in this channel??? [07:15] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:41] *peppe8o (5d30bcd6@93.48.188.214) has left #techrights [07:44] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:47] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MX Linux 19.3 Released with Latest Debian Buster 10.6 Updates, BleedingTooth Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144241 [https://pleroma.site/objects/82c8bc96-3811-4ee6-9e84-bb88aec2fe36] [07:51] scientes schestowitz, ^ [07:52] schestowitz saw that [07:52] schestowitz and spoke with him/her [07:52] scientes oh hes gone [07:52] scientes as always [07:52] schestowitz it's settled now [07:52] schestowitz spoke privately [07:52] scientes ppl that don't know how to IRC [07:52] schestowitz yeah [07:52] schestowitz or how the Web works [07:52] schestowitz he thinks that us linking to his site can harm the site [07:52] scientes wow [07:53] schestowitz seriously [07:53] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Nov 11 [08:01] schestowitz https://danielpocock.com/withdrawing-fedora-council-nomination-2020/ [08:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Withdrawing my nomination for Fedora Council [08:01] schestowitz " [08:01] schestowitz The deadline for Fedora Council nominations is tomorrow, 11 November. I've decided to withdraw my nomination and I'd like to do so publicly so that anybody else who wants to contest the position has an opportunity to hastily submit a nomination in the hours that remain before the deadline.

[08:01] schestowitz

Even without going as far as the voting stage, I believe my brief campaign has already achieved some remarkable things. [08:01] schestowitz " [08:01] schestowitz https://daniel.haxx.se/us-visa.html#got-it [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel.haxx.se | Time it took for Daniel to get a US visa [08:02] schestowitz " [08:02] schestowitz 937 days since my application, I have a visa in my passport. Valid for 10 years.

[08:02] schestowitz

As an unexpected bonus, there's also a 30 days "NIE" (National Interest Exception) that allows me a single entry to the US during "PP" (Presidential Proclamations) - which is restricting travels to the US from the European Schengen zone. [08:02] schestowitz " [08:19] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:23] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techrights [08:25] scientes XRevan86, you quoted my MEH response to the ambition of azerbaijan, but I feel that is the approach that Tolstoy was taking [08:25] scientes the book started out with the title War, what is it good for? [08:27] scientes I've had women come at me with this "men are violent creatures" attitude, and when you just turn it right back on them they don't know what to do. [08:28] scientes MEH really is the most human response, because any other response requires creating a US and a tHEM [08:32] *timur_demin is now known as tdemin [08:35] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:37] scientes (and if you are caught in the violence, sometimes that is warranted) [08:37] scientes which is why it is written "do not think of what you will say, as the word will come to you" [08:37] scientes *words [08:46] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 is Awesome! A Computer in A Keyboard! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144242 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f6194e9a-4084-42cf-b899-4b75c2dd9d6f] [08:48] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 is Awesome! 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[09:53] schestowitz some say industrial-grade' [09:53] schestowitz military-industrial complex comes to mind [09:53] schestowitz Tor might be the "best we have"(TM) [09:57] scientes it could be much faster if it used UDP as a transport [09:57] scientes TCP-over-TCP is really dumb [09:58] vZS1 I only use Tor for browsing [09:58] scientes although it is quite an accomplishment [09:59] vZS1 I wouldn't trust it with any sensitive data ● Nov 11 [10:00] vZS1 To me it's just a basic privacy tool. Nothing else. [10:01] scientes I don't trust any software organization that asks for open-ended (not feature-specific) donations [10:01] vZS1 Any system where you rely on relays is prone to exploitation [10:01] *tdemin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:01] scientes because anyone that knows anything about software knows that developent doesn't work that way [10:02] *tdemin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [10:02] scientes windows sucks BECAUSE you pay for it [10:02] vZS1 schestowitz: it's not like when I SSH into your Pi. We don't even use DNS for that. It's a pretty secure workflow we have there. [10:05] vZS1 We have an established relationship of trust. You know my IP, I know yours. Based on that relationship we use methods to allow real privacy and security between the two of us [10:05] schestowitz vZS1: question [10:05] schestowitz would having in bulletin CIDs of previous bulletins be useful? [10:06] vZS1 Yeah. That's a good idea [10:06] schestowitz at end or start? [10:06] vZS1 I'd say start [10:06] schestowitz I cannot name the cid for current one as it needs to be generated before it's put on ipfs [10:07] vZS1 Yeah but that's what the index is for [10:08] schestowitz i can use the index online to pull that part of the bulletin from [10:08] schestowitz instead of rerunning a command [10:08] vZS1 I just use wget to grab the index [10:08] vZS1 The URI is easy enough to memorise [10:09] schestowitz can you paste here your parser of the index [10:09] schestowitz with cut and all? [10:09] schestowitz that might give a good 'starting point' [10:09] schestowitz BTW, the Pi's IP addressed rolled over yesterday after a disconnection [10:09] vZS1 Give me a sec [10:10] vZS1 Just email me the new IP address [10:10] schestowitz sent in another channel [10:10] schestowitz the unlogged one [10:10] vZS1 That works too [10:10] schestowitz I might start linking less within articles [10:11] schestowitz seeing that over time more people just read the text version [10:11] schestowitz so it's more like printed news [10:11] schestowitz after you went to bed I gave up on doing image-to-unicode [10:11] schestowitz without colour in the mix (or shades) it's hard to get useful images -- the terminal tools I downloaded yesterday rely on colour [10:12] vZS1 Just make IPFS objects out of the real images [10:12] vZS1 Compress them with xz [10:12] vZS1 Problem solved [10:12] schestowitz it would be a lot of work (coding) [10:12] schestowitz and big volume [10:12] schestowitz the images are huge [10:12] vZS1 xz has the best ratios around [10:12] vZS1 Try it [10:13] vZS1 `xz --compress --keep -9 /path/to/image` [10:13] MinceR you could just process it so that you end up with bracketed numbers in the text and a list of numbers and URLs afterwards :> [10:14] schestowitz MinceR: I tried that [10:14] schestowitz had python issues [10:14] MinceR maybe lynx can do it for you [10:14] schestowitz does it have pipe mode? [10:14] MinceR not sure [10:15] schestowitz dont' think so [10:15] schestowitz it's interactive [10:15] MinceR i think it can render html to text with links processed as stated above [10:15] schestowitz it's not a tool for converting a page into fixed ascii [10:15] MinceR -dump [10:15] MinceR and yes, it goes to stdout [10:15] schestowitz or maybe for each article, not Daily Links, we can present two modes [10:15] schestowitz let's try [10:16] vZS1 You should take advantage of IPFS's content-based addressing [10:17] vZS1 You can include entire archives in a bulletin [10:17] schestowitz what's your parser for the index like? [10:17] vZS1 Oh yeah [10:17] vZS1 It's pretty simple [10:17] schestowitz e.g. for past 7 days [10:18] schestowitz this way next bulletin will include that [10:18] schestowitz 'Previous bulletins in IPFS:' >> $IRCDATEFILE [10:19] vZS1 I use `wget http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt -O txt` as a scrpt in my Git repo for the index [10:19] vZS1 Then I run the script: [10:20] vZS1 `for i in $(cut -d ' ' -f 1 < txt); do ipfs pin add "${i}"; done` [10:23] schestowitz $ wget -q -O- http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt | grep bulletin | tail -n7 [10:23] schestowitz Qme6tUQz9HbrFEyLrXZYhJEVcqahaSMEEhmSsv1qky5Lux techrights-2020-11-04 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz Qma1Q1kNahagEkgXL7GiboNFEfw1WofSG4qB8nh3nes1Vf techrights-2020-11-05 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz QmYHrR1P7YFy5prPQ3pAK1DZaGm7Mrr75NwK4VhUeFsTLD techrights-2020-11-06 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz QmZ3Yy7uWVtMyGfgaCQYtpcJZBxS2LoLEFZPgRSiYBF73w techrights-2020-11-07 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz QmUzg7gYUYeQZnNpRqRFQDoWcbEZUSphfYKmDhSpEWWSMS techrights-2020-11-08 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz QmZqXrn8HKzFhZxbxuxfob86u5iANXocM81qQoKops1KiF techrights-2020-11-09 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:23] schestowitz QmQjedfsHmNZWLhwmpa4tVdn76zcDGmMHAfJ4E11EuRhwJ techrights-2020-11-10 (daily bulletin as plain text) [10:26] MinceR https://isthisacoup.com/ [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isthisacoup.com | Is this a coup? Home of the Coup-o-meter [10:28] vZS1 It's a good thing I got my bluetooth keyboard out. Makes typing code on my phone so much easier. [10:28] vZS1 Highly recommend [10:29] vZS1 I use a TeckNet X366 [10:30] schestowitz I'm testing it now [10:31] vZS1 I paid 11.99 for it. Over a year now without any battery or key issues. [10:32] vZS1 @sche [10:32] vZS1 schestowitz: should work. It's a really dumb script. [10:34] schestowitz RECENT BULLETINS [10:34] schestowitz Previous bulletins in IPFS: [10:34] schestowitz Qme6tUQz9HbrFEyLrXZYhJEVcqahaSMEEhmSsv1qky5Lux [10:34] schestowitz Qma1Q1kNahagEkgXL7GiboNFEfw1WofSG4qB8nh3nes1Vf [10:34] schestowitz QmYHrR1P7YFy5prPQ3pAK1DZaGm7Mrr75NwK4VhUeFsTLD [10:34] schestowitz QmZ3Yy7uWVtMyGfgaCQYtpcJZBxS2LoLEFZPgRSiYBF73w [10:34] schestowitz QmUzg7gYUYeQZnNpRqRFQDoWcbEZUSphfYKmDhSpEWWSMS [10:34] schestowitz QmZqXrn8HKzFhZxbxuxfob86u5iANXocM81qQoKops1KiF [10:34] schestowitz QmQjedfsHmNZWLhwmpa4tVdn76zcDGmMHAfJ4E11EuRhwJ [10:34] schestowitz does that look good and simple enough to parse? [10:34] schestowitz from each bulletin, past 7 days [10:34] MinceR bluetooth is insecure [10:35] vZS1 Not exactly worried about my security for typing into IRC chat lol [10:35] vZS1 schestowitz: yeah. Ican juts grab that with tmux easily. [10:35] schestowitz I will add a reference to the full ipfs indices [10:36] vZS1 Good idea [10:37] schestowitz Full IPFS index in http://techrights.org/ipfs/ and as plain text in http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt/ [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [10:37] schestowitz hmmm... [10:37] schestowitz no trailing slashes needed [10:38] vZS1 One of the great confusion points of anything unix [10:38] vZS1 The amount of times I fucked up my rsync scripts because of the trailing slash semantics [10:38] vZS1 too many lol [10:40] schestowitz one day I might make them files [10:40] schestowitz not dirs [10:40] schestowitz and files cannot have those slashes [10:40] schestowitz except with redirections set up [10:41] schestowitz this is php 'faking' being a text file [10:41] schestowitz and loading in the text files [10:42] vZS1 I'm going to head off and do some work now. Catch you all later. [10:53] schestowitz https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1004 [10:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.4 | Tor Blog [10:54] schestowitz "With COVID-19 pandemic this year, we didnt have the chance to tour our State of the Onion during any face-to-face conferences." https://blog.torproject.org/state-of-the-onion-2020 [10:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Youre Invited: State of the Onion 2020 | Tor Blog ● Nov 11 [12:02] *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:23] oiaohm MinceR: horrible part bluetooth is more secure than some countries telephone networks. [12:40] *psydread (eace4d91cc@149-210-220-39.colo.transip.net) has left #techrights [12:40] XRevan86 https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1058-release-notes/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MariaDB 10.5.8 Release Notes - MariaDB Knowledge Base ● Nov 11 [13:04] XRevan86 scientes: https://youtu.be/E1X8wkk_HsQ some analytics on Karabakh (in Russian) [13:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- , , - YouTube [13:25] vZS1 > "With COVID-19 pandemic this year, we didnt have the chance to tour our State of the Onion during any face-to-face conferences." https://blog.torproject.org/state-of-the-onion-2020 [13:26] vZS1 Aka we don't care. Otherwise we could have just discussed in a forum or VoIP. [13:26] schestowitz who are they accountable to? [13:26] schestowitz They sacked ioerror [13:27] vZS1 I have no bloody clue [13:27] schestowitz Their chief I never trusted. [13:27] vZS1 At m I'm pretty sure Tor is finished [13:27] schestowitz someone I never heard of beforehand [13:27] vZS1 And I'm* [13:27] schestowitz seems to have been chosen on "diversity" criteria tbh [13:27] schestowitz and for pointing that out alone I can receive flak [13:27] vZS1 They made it really hard for people to find the Unix docs [13:27] vZS1 Try looking on their website [13:27] schestowitz they sacked many people this year [13:28] schestowitz iirc, 35% of their staff [13:28] schestowitz after already sacking some of the most trusted devs [13:28] schestowitz and demonising them [13:28] schestowitz as "posers" [13:28] schestowitz like those who lead the projects aren't [13:28] schestowitz maybe they can promote signal like the EFF [13:28] vZS1 That's why these projects shoot themselves in the foot by making their ops so brittle. [13:28] schestowitz go download from Microsoft/NSA [13:29] schestowitz (GitHib) [13:29] schestowitz (GitHub) [13:29] schestowitz [13:22] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (): NEWS #TechDirt EU Takes Another Small Step Towards Trying To Ban #Crypto ; New Paper Argues Tech Can Nerd Harder To #Backdoor #Encryption https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201109/00092045673/eu-takes-another-small-step-towards-trying-to-ban-encrypt... [https://pleroma.site/objects/05ee5503-cb1a-4a40-aa8f-4e4a77b5bf5a] [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Takes Another Small Step Towards Trying To Ban Encryption; New Paper Argues Tech Can Nerd Harder To Backdoor Encryption | Techdirt [13:29] schestowitz mins ago [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site [13:29] vZS1 You should try to get in touch with the original devs and see if they want to fork the project [13:30] schestowitz When they had wikileaks on board you could believe they're anti-authority [13:30] schestowitz not after they fired them [13:30] schestowitz all that's left to me is their navy roots [13:30] schestowitz Military hegemony [13:30] vZS1 Even the navy can do good [13:30] vZS1 Depends who's in charge [13:31] schestowitz used to [13:31] vZS1 Yeah. I don't like throwing assumptions around [13:31] schestowitz [13:29] You should try to get in touch with the original devs and see if they want to fork the project [13:31] schestowitz I have no sway in cryptowars [13:31] schestowitz outside my ballpark [13:31] vZS1 This isn't really crypto [13:31] schestowitz tails uses tor [13:31] schestowitz but would use something else [13:31] vZS1 This is more privacy [13:31] schestowitz like many moved to libressl [13:32] schestowitz vZS1: it relies on crypto at the layers of the onion [13:32] schestowitz otherwise you could follow around easily the packets [13:32] vZS1 But so does most of the internet [13:32] schestowitz so-called [13:32] schestowitz so-called Internet [13:32] schestowitz so-called crypto [13:32] schestowitz weakened [13:32] schestowitz means [13:32] schestowitz fake [13:32] vZS1 Yep [13:32] schestowitz "weakened" [13:32] schestowitz [enter mini me meme] [13:33] vZS1 This is a binary situation [13:33] vZS1 There is no in between [13:33] vZS1 Either your system is true or false [13:33] schestowitz https://youtu.be/miCPfjucsB8 [13:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bert Hubert, PowerDNS - Encryption, data protection and law enforcement - YouTube [13:33] vZS1 The discussion ends there [13:33] schestowitz Berlin Wall era [13:33] vZS1 But we're in an echo chamber here [13:34] schestowitz where? [13:34] schestowitz corporate media maybe [13:34] vZS1 I'd say it's a good idea to push all these developments in the bulletins [13:34] schestowitz this channel isn't a bunch of fools [13:34] schestowitz it's there under the right section [13:34] vZS1 I mean us talking about fake E2EE [13:34] schestowitz usually privacy/surveillance and security [13:34] schestowitz I cannot write much about it because I'm no expert in that area [13:34] schestowitz and would be prone to making errors [13:35] vZS1 I can proofread for you [13:35] schestowitz I can do guest posts [13:35] schestowitz proofreading isn't the issue [13:35] schestowitz it's the knowledge [13:35] vZS1 Ah [13:35] vZS1 Okay then. [13:35] schestowitz typos aren't as bad as factual errors [13:35] vZS1 I'll write a guest post [13:35] schestowitz someone sent me a long message [13:35] schestowitz maybe I can reuse that a bit when the occasion arises [13:35] schestowitz guest posts can help too [13:36] schestowitz even reused from other pieces, old book chapters etc. [13:36] schestowitz right now I focus on patents and epo [13:36] vZS1 You alright if it's long-form? Because I'd want it to be readable by everyone. [13:36] schestowitz long form is excellent [13:37] schestowitz and it can be partly reused [13:37] vZS1 I'll establish definitions right at the start so readers can see the conclusion [13:37] schestowitz if that helps, as long as with correct copyright/attribution etc. [13:37] vZS1 See = grasp easily [13:37] schestowitz the premise/starting point, for us at least: [13:37] schestowitz encryption that works is rare [13:37] schestowitz what media promotes is mostly fake [13:37] schestowitz EFF also [13:37] schestowitz many things should be presumed corpromised [13:37] schestowitz (because they are) [13:37] vZS1 But Techrights isn't fake (! [13:38] vZS1 (; [13:38] schestowitz some are not even aware of it [13:38] schestowitz or only people at a higher level are aware [13:38] vZS1 I'll spend my weekend working on it [13:38] schestowitz Techrights is "FAKE NOOSE" - Donald Trump [13:38] vZS1 Will email you a draft, when it's ready. [13:38] schestowitz people who call out "fake" are sometimes the exposed [13:38] schestowitz cheers [13:39] vZS1 Also. If you've got the ipfs plaintext in an index, you can use this post-commit hook script that I will share shortly [13:40] schestowitz for the record, areas I'm comfortable with are (c)/patent law, maths, programming (esp. computer vision) [13:40] schestowitz now so much hardware (low level), encryption routines [13:40] vZS1 Just make a file called "post-commit", move it to ".git/hooks/" and set the file to executable [13:41] schestowitz I'll need to check the code in that [13:42] vZS1 https://pastebin.com/2QTSm5bn [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-#!/usr/bin/bash# Update ipfs pins, after a commit is made. printf "Updat - Pastebin.com [13:42] schestowitz mama told me not to run them bin from stranjaas [13:42] vZS1 That's why I'm sending you the code lol [13:43] schestowitz which git install is that for? [13:43] schestowitz oh [13:43] schestowitz the rapi has git [13:43] schestowitz did I install that? [13:43] schestowitz did the pi come with it preloaded in the OS? [13:44] vZS1 Comes with Git now [13:44] schestowitz ok, wait [13:46] schestowitz done [13:47] vZS1 I did promise lol [13:47] schestowitz it's there in root [13:47] schestowitz or maybe should in in pi, wait [13:47] vZS1 The hook needs to be called "post-commit" [13:47] schestowitz git isn't even configured for anything yet [13:47] schestowitz it is [13:47] schestowitz in .git/hooks [13:48] vZS1 Yeah. For that repo [13:48] schestowitz chmod 755 [13:48] vZS1 700 is better [13:48] schestowitz ok [13:48] vZS1 And set it to executable [13:48] vZS1 Otherwise it won't work [13:48] vZS1 Pi has old Git [13:48] schestowitz anyway, I think it's there now [13:49] vZS1 Are you running the ipfs daemon on my account? [13:49] schestowitz you have the new ip address [13:49] vZS1 Yeah [13:49] schestowitz and can git on your account [13:49] vZS1 Ty [13:49] schestowitz vZS1: it's always on that account [13:49] vZS1 Just checking [13:50] vZS1 I haven't logged in in days [13:50] schestowitz Bandwidth [13:50] schestowitz TotalIn: 6.1 GB [13:50] schestowitz TotalOut: 2.5 GB [13:50] vZS1 Been busy [13:51] vZS1 Let me check mine [13:51] vZS1 In 4.6GB [13:51] vZS1 Out 2.9 GB [13:52] vZS1 People spend way more bandwidth just watching YouTube in a day [13:53] vZS1 And this is over multiple days lol [13:54] schestowitz what's a youtube? oh... yewtube [13:54] schestowitz it's playing all day long here [13:54] schestowitz landscapes and underwater stuff [13:55] vZS1 Re: Tor. I haven't looked into that kind of stuff in ages. Last similar thing I did was SOCKS proxy work [13:56] vZS1 But anyone reasonable should be able to see that the project looks fairly over now [13:56] vZS1 They sacked the people that really care [13:59] schestowitz my point from earlier [13:59] schestowitz first ousted [13:59] schestowitz than also sacked [13:59] schestowitz who's left? [13:59] schestowitz The admins? [13:59] schestowitz Who don't know jack about programming? [13:59] vZS1 And there's no lack of devs they can just drop into place [13:59] schestowitz and merely do "the talking"? [13:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights ● Nov 11 [14:00] vZS1 Whether they do a good job or not is irrelevant [14:00] schestowitz they cannot assess incoming patches and background checks of staff (and their commits) [14:00] schestowitz you don't need a line of code for a back doors [14:00] schestowitz *back door [14:00] schestowitz a few characters suffice [14:00] vZS1 It's like emat [14:00] schestowitz if constructed cleverly [14:00] vZS1 email [14:01] vZS1 Probably the most insecure protocol suite in history [14:01] schestowitz to cause a buffer to overflow onto another particular buffer with entropy generation [14:01] vZS1 God do I hate email [14:01] schestowitz join the club [14:01] schestowitz and it's usually not secure either [14:01] vZS1 Yep [14:01] schestowitz so it's worse than IRC [14:01] schestowitz the spies have good tools for tapping email [14:01] vZS1 IRC is far better [14:01] schestowitz freenode and logs are "not in the manual" [14:01] CrystalMath USENET!!! [14:02] schestowitz (call center humour) [14:02] vZS1 Lol [14:02] schestowitz but it's not the fault of email [14:02] vZS1 I've done extensive work on SMTP [14:02] schestowitz it's an old protocol [14:02] vZS1 It wasn't fun [14:02] schestowitz invented by a a fraud :-) [14:02] schestowitz actually military contractor [14:02] schestowitz the fraud Shiva threatened me with litigation [14:02] schestowitz through Trump's lawyer [14:03] vZS1 Btw, do you have an ipfs node running on your personal computer? [14:03] schestowitz because I called him out on lying about inventing email... right after the real inventor had died [14:03] vZS1 That way I don't need to feed pastebin spyware [14:03] schestowitz no, I don't want ipfs on my production machine [14:03] schestowitz seems unsafe tbh [14:03] schestowitz other people's traffic relayed through mine [14:03] vZS1 I can just post source code CIDs here then [14:03] vZS1 You can just turn off the daemon [14:04] vZS1 Run as a different user [14:04] vZS1 That's what I do [14:04] vZS1 Nothing committed or fancy [14:04] schestowitz I have 6 machines here [14:04] vZS1 Complicated* [14:04] schestowitz I might as well offload that to one [14:04] vZS1 Yeah [14:04] vZS1 Then I can send stuff a lot easier [14:04] vZS1 We can just exchange CIDs [14:04] schestowitz I never even install nonfree s/w on my main machine [14:05] schestowitz ssh is also secure [14:05] schestowitz you could chat with ytalk [14:05] schestowitz but it's arcane [14:05] schestowitz we tried it before [14:05] schestowitz logging those is really difficult [14:05] schestowitz so we gave u [14:05] schestowitz up [14:06] schestowitz afaict, it has not been maintained in decades [14:06] schestowitz hey, let's set up a sLack channel!!!! /saRCASM [14:06] vZS1 Dear God no [14:07] vZS1 You know [14:07] vZS1 I used to annoy some people by posting straight to their pty [14:07] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME 40 - Planned Features and Release Date http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144246 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0a1ca245-14b6-47e1-8a56-47003013ecd2] [14:09] schestowitz I opened their CD tray [14:09] schestowitz when PCs still came with one as standard [14:09] vZS1 You don't need anything fancy to do chat over SSH [14:09] vZS1 Just set a file to append-only [14:09] vZS1 And get everyone to write to that [14:10] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144247 [https://pleroma.site/objects/849ad514-b5e7-4223-97ee-caa783e0ef25] [14:10] vZS1 Can view real-time with tail(1) [14:11] vZS1 You can do timestamps and usernames in a message with command substitution and printf [14:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Intel Vulnerabilities Now Patched in All Supported Ubuntu Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144248 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d294bcc-8050-412c-9466-68806d3fff51] [14:11] schestowitz tmux [14:11] schestowitz two panes [14:11] vZS1 Yep [14:11] schestowitz cat / >> in one [14:11] schestowitz tail -f in the other [14:12] vZS1 I'd say hard-set the file to append-only [14:12] vZS1 So someone doesn't nuke it by accident [14:12] schestowitz read only [14:12] schestowitz for each user [14:12] schestowitz the other person only writes to the other [14:13] schestowitz but can do otr [14:13] schestowitz by emptying it [14:13] vZS1 Doesn't work that well for more than two people though [14:13] vZS1 Best to just have everyone appending to one file [14:14] schestowitz (main) in the middle [14:14] schestowitz voids the file [14:15] schestowitz return void; [14:15] schestowitz anyway, better get back to posting news now [14:15] schestowitz I fell behind [14:16] schestowitz partly intentionally... took advantage of day off gym to post new EPO docs/letters [14:27] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proprietary Software Misc. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144249 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8fb5a8f6-fe89-4d11-bc11-7d9c827a0aa0] [14:28] vZS1 Cya [14:30] schestowitz later [14:36] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144250 [https://pleroma.site/objects/188dc08b-901e-4576-a806-b2bde20e6021] [14:39] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144251 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b0d591ca-4549-427f-aeb4-6d2f2c6f665a] [14:54] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:54] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #MXLinux -19.3 now available! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144241#comment-27110 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec9088b6-6637-460f-abd0-1460a81da67f] [14:57] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Lutris, Darkside Detective and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144252 [https://pleroma.site/objects/40202fb3-9b85-4edd-97ba-5f814facb0b0] ● Nov 11 [15:51] MinceR 11 132348 < oiaohm> MinceR: horrible part bluetooth is more secure than some countries telephone networks. [15:51] MinceR at least you might be able to run a VPN on top of a telephone connection [15:52] MinceR no peripheral or host is likely to support that for bluetooth input devices [15:52] oiaohm MinceR: you can horrible run IP over bluetooth so you can VPN it. [15:52] MinceR hell, they aren't even willing to support Secure Simple Pairing in devices, they just hardwire a PIN and call it a day [15:53] oiaohm Yep the old party line phone line security. [15:53] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SysTray-X Is A Thunderbird 68+ Tray Icon With Unread Email Counter And Close / Minimize To Tray http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144256 [https://pleroma.site/objects/adf7388e-3868-4b69-9b56-b6a287021fbb] [15:56] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Regards modern photo viewer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144257 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9187ed87-473d-4220-903d-0a1df2030e2a] [15:58] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #RaspberryPi 400 Is An ARM Linux Desktop PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144242#comment-27112 [https://pleroma.site/objects/806d4a15-23ba-4656-a8d2-b411309ea0d5] [15:59] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Feren OS 2020.11 Carbon Is Here With New Base Ubuntu 20.04 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144199#comment-27113 [https://pleroma.site/objects/98132df6-fd85-4a10-9aea-fcd4f007b4f4] ● Nov 11 [16:04] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Mesa 20.3 RC 1 and Mesa 21.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144258 [https://pleroma.site/objects/527310c5-e7e4-4d25-97bb-60bf8ec65892] [16:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: JASP: A Less Complicated Free Open-source SPSS Alternative for Advanced Statistics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144259 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1394af05-4da8-45ad-a6c5-a63afa7d31ef] [16:18] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:19] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: GCC, Elixir and JavaScript http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144260 [https://pleroma.site/objects/481e0281-9dd0-4a86-bc14-412eff938383] [16:20] MinceR https://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2729.html [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Back to School Sale. [16:23] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation: Buzzwords, Courses and Zoom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144261 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e6ec5b79-c2d5-4213-ac78-a4cd3b355491] [16:33] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SUSE/OpenSUSE Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144263 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a0e781d8-e99a-4aa1-b5ca-ff6704acd0cd] [16:35] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144262 [https://pleroma.site/objects/269b66b7-b310-4191-8f6d-00e5daa964aa] [16:37] MinceR (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/L0JfYdt.mp4 [16:38] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:45] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Elementary OS, mintCast, I Will Not Watch These Linux YouTubers by Derek Taylor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144264 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dae06cc6-f7fa-4522-9eac-d0d6c6e259eb] [16:53] *inky (~inky@5.77.129.40) has joined #techrights [16:55] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenRazer 2.9 Released with New Razer Peripherals Support [PPA] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144158#comment-27116 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90b44597-4084-4c09-ba42-cec8da4a1f51] ● Nov 11 [17:11] XRevan86 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/11/ink-stained-wretches-battle-soul-digital-freedom-taking-place-inside-your-printer "HP's latest gambit challenges the basis of private property itself" wait, aren't they lawyers? they should know the distinction between personal ("end user") property and private property. [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Ink-Stained Wretches: The Battle for the Soul of Digital Freedom Taking Place Inside Your Printer | Electronic Frontier Foundation [17:12] XRevan86 HP is a private company, their leased an ink cartridge or something, I'm pretty sure what they did is perfectly within private property rights. [17:15] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144265 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3c089b33-9aa7-4427-851e-1d4a2d442ed8] [17:20] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144266 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f89d0220-7f49-440f-b6b3-99bd00451105] [17:23] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 11/11/2020: Clonezilla Live 2.7.0, Feren OS 2020.11, MX Linux 19.3 Released http://techrights.org/2020/11/11/mx-linux-19-3-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/98c0f303-6084-422a-aa85-2e7287b2164c] [17:27] *tr_guest|92389 (519aad70@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.154.173.112) has joined #techrights [17:29] *tr_guest|92389 has quit (Client Quit) [17:35] *birkoff has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [17:44] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-imptrxdlfcnbcvrk) has joined #techrights [17:49] schestowitz > I wish Microsoft would stop trying to control everything! *moves large [17:49] schestowitz > project team to Github* [17:49] schestowitz > [17:49] schestowitz > DaemonFC[m] [17:49] schestowitz > This is utter crap. We need a new viable political party. It has [17:49] schestowitz > happened before. [17:52] schestowitz vZS1: [17:52] schestowitz $650 [17:52] schestowitz https://www.yubico.com/product/yubihsm-2/ [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yubico | YubiHSM 2 | Hardware Security Module | USB-A [17:52] schestowitz Crazy. [17:52] schestowitz someone sent me this reply ● Nov 11 [18:01] vZS1 Bunch of overpriced garbage [18:02] vZS1 Tamper-resistant HSMs aren't available to ordinary consumers [18:02] vZS1 And it's a fully closed product which means hello NSA backdoor [18:03] vZS1 And it's a marketing scam [18:05] vZS1 You know a product is shit when you see clueless YouTubers shilling it [18:05] vZS1 That's basically Yubico [18:06] vZS1 I think they're just trying to see how far they can take it now [18:08] vZS1 It allows concurrent connections and network sharing [18:09] vZS1 Which are both terrible idea [18:09] vZS1 ideas [18:09] vZS1 For example, I have a smart card which I use only on an offline machine. To prevent memory attacks and such [18:10] vZS1 Then I have a smart card which I use on online machines. [18:12] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkDMspBhGA [18:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Swan Lake in Ultra HD 4K - YouTube [18:13] scientes that is the only swan lake available in 4K [18:13] scientes or anything better than 480p [18:13] schestowitz what about nitrokey, vZS1 [18:13] schestowitz ? [18:13] schestowitz they gave up kernel hackers some [18:13] schestowitz which I thought was a PR stunt [18:14] schestowitz but I don't know if they use free/libre designs [18:14] schestowitz or how much they charge [18:14] schestowitz lwn did a puff piece about it, iirc [18:15] scientes all the security keys are too expensive [18:15] scientes a pretty simple design gets you at under $10 [18:16] scientes and if you could be as clever as metro cards it would be cheaper [18:17] scientes I got a FPGA for the price of a security key [18:18] vZS1 It's open hardware/software [18:19] vZS1 Pricing is alright. But could be a lot cheaper [18:20] scientes these security keys that are over $50 are rediculous [18:20] scientes the electronics in those things are less than $1 [18:22] vZS1 For the average person, you just need something that is physically separate from the consuming device [18:22] scientes <$10 in parts, claims these slides https://tomu.im/fomu.html [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tomu.im | Fomu - An FPGA which fits in your USB port. | Im Tomu - A tiny ARM microprocessor which fits in your USB port. [18:23] scientes see $2.15 will get you there [18:23] vZS1 And has a form of authentication that's physical [18:23] scientes this fomu can be a security key [18:23] scientes because you can't read a FPGA, only reprogram it [18:23] scientes and this one is directly hooked up to the usb pins [18:23] scientes so you can do anything usb 2.0 can [18:24] vZS1 Anything that advertises more than that is extremely sketchy [18:24] scientes dude $50 is rediculous [18:24] scientes and they don't even store keys for you [18:24] vZS1 Because three-letter agencies have equipment that can get to the bits in memory [18:25] scientes they don't even store your keys [18:25] scientes it is super lame, they only work with dumb web apps, so there is no point [18:25] vZS1 And hardware that resists that kind of stuff costs in the thousands of $ [18:25] scientes there is no security to that, only liability [18:25] scientes vZS1, you are not using your brain [18:26] scientes the point of these things is to shift liability, not increase security [18:28] vZS1 So anything in between something that's equivalent to using an air-gapped machine and a non-consumer grade HSM is not actually giving you a lot of extra protection. Smartcards fall in that middle area but i they only really protect you from people that aren't three-letter agencies [18:29] scientes what is your threat model? [18:30] DaemonFC[m] Sometimes I just want to quote Jayne from Firefly. [18:30] vZS1 Also, when you go around looking for a top-end HSM, you can bet you've just got yourself onto some sort of list [18:30] DaemonFC[m] "Do you know what the chain of command is? That's the chain I go and beat you with until you figure out who's in command.". [18:31] DaemonFC[m] Did he just go crazy and then pass out? [18:31] DaemonFC[m] [18:36] schestowitz just got about 8gb of videos from 2001 [18:36] schestowitz rms included [18:36] schestowitz will post them this coming week [18:56] DaemonFC[m] "Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar, who is Pennsylvania's top election official, spoke to reporters yesterday. And while she said a great deal, the most important detail she shared was this: The state received just 10,000 ballots between Election Day and the deadline for receipt on Nov. 6." [18:56] *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/PCpxtuKfeAZoECNYAHLgxvQF/message.txt > [18:56] DaemonFC[m] -electoral-vote dot com [18:57] DaemonFC[m] So even if Trump did get them thrown out (1) some would be for him and (2) even if all of them were for Biden, it would come up 37,000 votes short of reversing the election. [18:57] DaemonFC[m] So no judge is going to do that because it would be pointless and even if they did, it wouldn't change the outcome. [18:58] smnthermes https://kddit.kalli.st/r/pics/comments/jsa03h/now_thats_what_i_call_irony/ [18:58] DaemonFC[m] Secondly, Biden expanded his lead in Georgia to 14,000 votes. [18:58] DaemonFC[m] So it would now take the largest recount turnaround in US history for a state times 13 for Trump to reverse the result there. [18:59] DaemonFC[m] Then he's suing to stop the election results from being certified in Michigan, where the same judge who declined to stop the votes from being counted is presiding. [18:59] DaemonFC[m] And he's arguing over about a million times too few ballots to change anything in Nevada. ● Nov 11 [19:00] DaemonFC[m] This is absolute hogwash, and the courts are not going to give this too him because it would be a flagrantly stolen election and their decision would cause the entire country to burn down and when people got done doing that, they'd probably kill the judges. [19:01] DaemonFC[m] On top of that, those judges have nothing to fear from Trump, who has 70 days left and is powerless to remove any of them from the bench. [19:03] DaemonFC[m] The most this will do is muddy the waters a little bit. Not enough to change the election, but enough for him to continue to claim mass fraud after he leaves office, and it's powering a surge of fundraising for his new PAC which is siphoning off nearly all of the "election dispute" money, but you wouldn't know that unless you read the size 1 font in the emails. [19:06] DaemonFC[m] Trump is planning a hostile takeover of the RNC once he leaves and this mountain of cash will make it easier. [19:07] DaemonFC[m] The party will still be too afraid to defy him, goes the thinking, so he'll continue to have significant sway over most of them in Congress and maybe even some state governors too. 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