●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 05, 2021 ●● ● Jul 05 [00:00] XRevan86 Now free speech will go undisturbed on Gab [00:00] MinceR you get to pick one: silence people for their political opinions ("drain the swamp") OR have free speech [00:00] CrystalMath maybe parler's better? [00:00] MinceR it doesn't go both ways [00:01] schestowitz also on gab http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2018/07/18/gab-not-free-speech/ [00:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath still doesn't get it [00:01] schestowitz they also ban for the 'wrongthink' [00:01] XRevan86 "free speech" is not something these people *actually* care about. [00:01] schestowitz rightthing = insurrection and running people over [00:01] schestowitz it's hilarious [00:01] XRevan86 It's not surprising that rasengan is same way. [00:02] schestowitz I was there as a joke in a sense... or to make a point when twitter shadowbanned me like 50 times in a year [00:02] schestowitz oops, wrong link [00:02] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2018/11/06/gab-is-pro-nazis/ [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Gab is Not a Site That Tolerates Nazis. It is a Nazi Site That Bans People Who Object to Nazism. Its a Censorship Site With a Dangerous Agenda. [00:02] schestowitz (the second one) [00:02] CrystalMath XRevan86: people are different, i know that *I* care about free speech [00:03] MinceR XRevan86: SJWs don't care about it either [00:03] CrystalMath exactly [00:03] schestowitz I think CrystalMath does cae [00:03] schestowitz *care [00:03] schestowitz can't recall him endorsing gagging anybody [00:03] CrystalMath i mean if the situation is that depressing, we may need to create yet another twitter/parler alternative [00:03] XRevan86 MinceR: If we talk about Libera, they're trying to make consistent rules what is allowed and what isn't. [00:04] XRevan86 while freenode is a wild west of bans [00:04] MinceR XRevan86: that isn't going to change their characters [00:04] techrights-news #Kernel Extended to Rust, New Stuff in Linux 5.14, and Linux Foundation 'Dilutes' Linux Mark http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153037 #rustlang #Linux #TuxMachines [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel 'Extended' to Rust, New Stuff in Linux 5.14, and Linux Foundation 'Dilutes' Linux Mark | Tux Machines [00:04] XRevan86 MinceR: freenode is made in rasengan's image [00:04] CrystalMath XRevan86: still haven't seen people network-banned for politics [00:05] CrystalMath only for spam [00:05] CrystalMath telling people who came to freenode to go to another network is advertising and it's spam [00:05] CrystalMath i explained my view on that [00:05] CrystalMath i believe every network should have a channel for some topic, be it cooking or the FSF [00:06] CrystalMath freenode has a right to have an #blender channel, whether the blender team likes it or not [00:06] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Maybe burning the Jews should not be such a topic though. [00:06] CrystalMath it doesn't have to be official [00:06] MinceR XRevan86: illibera is made in amdj's, jose's and nhandler's image [00:06] CrystalMath XRevan86: well i don't like to be morbid but a #blender channel could be about all kinds of things [00:06] XRevan86 MinceR: Ye just said that by analogy. [00:06] CrystalMath i mean it doesn't really have to be about the software :P [00:06] MinceR XRevan86: what do you mean? [00:06] CrystalMath it could be about the machine [00:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: On Libera (pre-May freenode) it has to be. [00:07] MinceR XRevan86: do you think that the staff of illibera have no effect on how illibera is operated? [00:07] XRevan86 because it's a network about software [00:07] MinceR also, what does that mean? [00:07] kingoffrance XRevan86, re: "A pro-Hitler and a pro-Stalin channels" "and then when both get banned, we'll call Libera centrist" yep, thats why left and right and alt and "far" and "modarate" are all meaningless, or distractions at best [00:07] XRevan86 MinceR: I think that they're working by the rules. [00:07] MinceR was staff required to enforce ontopic chat on all channels? [00:07] MinceR XRevan86: you trust rules way too much. have you seen a CoC up close? [00:08] CrystalMath MinceR: on old freenode, and on libera, staff joins your channels and bans people [00:08] XRevan86 MinceR: Is staff even monitoring all channels? [00:08] CrystalMath and harasses you if you allow things they don't [00:08] MinceR CrystalMath: only if they notice you [00:08] CrystalMath XRevan86: liberia's DOES monitor a lot [00:08] MinceR XRevan86: i don't think they can afford to [00:08] CrystalMath MinceR: heh, then i had bad luck maybe? :P [00:08] CrystalMath MinceR: jess bragged to me that she's on 250 channels [00:08] MinceR but i'm sure if some random griefer calls their attention to it, they suddenly will [00:08] CrystalMath when she stopped being staff she left ~240 [00:08] CrystalMath i wonder why? [00:08] MinceR you know, kind of like in the eastern bloc [00:09] CrystalMath why did her interest in all those topics fade? [00:09] MinceR you talk to the police about your neighbor and a black car comes for them [00:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: left freenode? [00:09] CrystalMath XRevan86: no, she was monitoring and banning people on all those channels [00:09] MinceR XRevan86: old staff resigned, didn't they? [00:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: Fuchs and her destroyed ##goodolddays, and we had to move it to LunarIRC [00:10] CrystalMath it was shut down [00:10] CrystalMath it was a retrocomputing channel [00:10] CrystalMath but we allowed flat earthers to talk [00:10] CrystalMath because free speech [00:11] schestowitz [00:08] MinceR: jess bragged to me that she's on 250 channels [00:11] schestowitz fuchs was on techrights [00:11] CrystalMath yes [00:11] CrystalMath monitoring [00:12] CrystalMath searching for reasons to shut it down [00:12] *bradchaus (~bchadwick@4pjad2wvr9yr4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:12] XRevan86 trolls and schizoids need a space, I get it [00:12] CrystalMath that's what the liberians always do [00:13] MinceR XRevan86: well, now they have 2 whole networks [00:13] CrystalMath MinceR: OFTC and illibera, right? [00:13] CrystalMath :P [00:13] MinceR obviously [00:13] MinceR and TR doesn't have to use either of them [00:14] techrights-news " So based on that I expect revenues to drop significantly. IBM projections, we all know, are always total BS. [the #IBM CEO] AK will be replaced by the end of 2022." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFrUGmG [00:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | cloud paks = $300B, don't cry ibmers - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:15] techrights-news "Looks like you are from Red hat... You are fooling yourself if you think Red Hat will stay independent. AK just started the consolidation of his power and the blue-washing of #RedHat has just accelerated big time. #IBM always destroys the company it acquires." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFQRoEF#replies [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM CEO to CNBC: Paul Cormier is staying, running Red Hat - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:15] phobos/fn I thought that was MS that always destroyed everything it acquired [00:15] techrights-news #RedHat CEO is Still Connected to the NSA Through the #Hortonworks Board http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/ [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hats CEO is Still Connected to the NSA Through the Hortonworks Board | Techrights [00:16] MinceR seems to be a combination of lots of money and a certain kind of suit [00:16] phobos/fn After all, they don't have a single product that they actually created. Everything was bought or stolen from someone else [00:16] MinceR crApple bought CUPS and drove it into the ground [00:16] phobos/fn No argument here [00:16] MinceR zenimax bought what was left of id Software and drove it into the ground [00:17] phobos/fn but I will say this; at least apple contributes back to the community from time to time [00:17] techrights-news "Yes, you are correct. AK is is about 1000 worse than Ackers. Just wonder which Gerstner will come and save the company this time around. We now know it is not JW. Though who knows, once the board finally realize that AK sucks, they may just go" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFaNvmD#replies [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | AK the next John Aker? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:18] phobos/fn MinceR: Yes... yes, they did. I'm still bitter about that. When they conned Carmack and the others with the 'We'll handle the money, you just make great games. We'll keep out of the way' promise, I knew it was BS and was surprised that Carmack fell for it [00:18] techrights-news #IBM CEO "AK is one of the incompetent exec. He doesn't know anything about sales. Without sales people, IBM can't survive. And without good products, sales can't survive. Currently, that's happening." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFu5faU#replies [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Could this be a good thing? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:18] phobos/fn MinceR: And now MS owns iD software [00:18] MinceR indeed [00:18] phobos/fn as far as I'm concerned, they are dead. [00:18] MinceR same [00:18] schestowitz IBM and Microsoft have LOTS in common --> [00:15] I thought that was MS that always destroyed everything it acquired [00:19] MinceR i mean, they kind of lost their way before then, but i'll never forgive zenimax suits for banning GNU/Linux binaries [00:19] schestowitz A lot of the worst elements of Microsoft were inherited from IBM [00:19] phobos/fn exactly [00:19] MinceR and from what i've heard, zenimax were always a bunch of suits who knew and cared nothing about videogames [00:19] phobos/fn MinceR: I had to shut the video off when Carmack flatly said 'Linux doesn't keep the lights on' or something along those lines. [00:20] kingoffrance eh, that is not a surprise, but if he cant escape who can? [00:20] MinceR Romero could [00:20] phobos/fn MinceR: That isn't far from the truth, but when they refused to release linux/osx client binaries, but wanted the community to host the games with their binaries... [00:20] techrights-news Don't believe what #corruptmedia (paid for in part by IBM) says about IBM http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [00:21] phobos/fn Carmack and the remainders eventually escaped too [00:21] phobos/fn just that Carmack did it slowly and flat told them he would only be there like 2-3 days a week so he could work on Occulus or his space program, they fired him [00:21] phobos/fn if memory serves [00:22] phobos/fn I think his space program is dormant, but listed as possibly resuming at some point [00:22] phobos/fn Armadillo Space or something like that [00:22] kingoffrance "He co-founded the video game company id Software" yeah thats always a good move. fire a founder [00:23] MinceR they didn't want the founders [00:23] MinceR they wanted the brands, the trademarks [00:23] techrights-news #ibm as a #patent collection agency and #swpats #lobbying machines is NOT compatible with what #redhat is/was [00:23] phobos/fn Yeah, and they paid a price for it too... outside of the new doom games, I don't think they've had anything successful since they canned him [00:23] kingoffrance not that i think anyone is above firing, but makes you wonder what tehy wanted. brands,trademarks, yeah makes sense [00:23] MinceR oh, and the copyrights, so they could tell Romero he's not allowed to distribute content the sort of which zenimax's suits have no idea how to use or to produce [00:23] kingoffrance makes sense in their eyes i guess [00:24] phobos/fn https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/2/4583304/john-carmack-armadillo-aerospace-in-hibernation-after-progress-stalled [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | John Carmack's private space program 'in hibernation' after progress stalled - The Verge [00:25] kingoffrance (im familiar with carmack a little, just wasnt sure if he was a founder, re: that quote) [00:25] MinceR curious he didn't call it Union Aerospace Corporation though :> [00:25] schestowitz how to get a car accidet [00:25] schestowitz and produce evidence of the cause: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDE87W_HrmY [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "Free Software Movement" Is as Good as Over (RIP in peace) - YouTube [00:26] phobos/fn Kingoffrance: Yeah, he was one of... 6? founders. its often said that 'individually, they were mediocre at best. Together, they produced awesome games.' [00:26] MinceR i wouldn't say that John Carmack or John Romero were mediocre [00:26] phobos/fn I liked quake 4 and doom 3, but it was obvious that with each founder leaving, stuff wasn't as ground breaking or great as it once was [00:26] MinceR Carmack revolutionarized computer graphics [00:27] MinceR Romero did legendary levels on his own [00:27] phobos/fn MinceR: No argument here. I was just repeating a quote I've often heard [00:27] MinceR but by the time the company made Doom3, they only had Carmack remaining from the original team [00:27] phobos/fn MinceR: I think Adrian was still there [00:27] MinceR afaict [00:28] MinceR possible [00:28] MinceR wikipedia doesn't list him, but that doesn't mean much [00:28] phobos/fn checking now [00:28] MinceR though they might have been on another project [00:28] MinceR or some sort of management position, as others seem to have ended up in [00:28] techrights-news Back when #fsfe was a thing and actually values #freesw and FSF alike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTcm6Nl_mkI [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Free Software Foundation in Europe - YouTube [00:28] MinceR (i mean above and outside the team developing the game) [00:29] phobos/fn Yeah, Adrian was still there.. he left in '05 [00:29] MinceR the timeline indeed says Adrian Carmack was at the company then [00:30] MinceR and so was Kevin Cloud, though he wasn't one of the founders [00:30] phobos/fn Whatever happened to American McGee? After the Alice games, he seems to have disappeared from the game universe [00:30] MinceR Sandy Petersen said, but i forgot [00:30] MinceR iirc he indeed gave up on videogames [00:31] phobos/fn Looks like Willits is still there [00:32] phobos/fn I know that TTimo gave Zenimax the middle finger and quit after Carmack gave that 'Linux doesn't pay the electric bill' comment [00:32] MinceR Willits came even later [00:32] MinceR also, i suspect Willits is the "snake" Petersen said was the reason for many people leaving, though i can't really prove it [00:32] phobos/fn He was one I was sorry to see go. He did the OSX/Linux ports and was largely responsible for making sure that the engine was compatible with said OS during the development phase [00:33] MinceR yeah, TTimo is cool [00:33] MinceR but the suits didn't let him work [00:33] phobos/fn I kinda hoped he'd pick up where he left off with the id tech3/4/5 open source ports, but he seems to be so disillusioned that he won't even look at them now [00:36] phobos/fn sorry for the rant [00:37] MinceR np [00:37] techrights-news The lies spread about RMS, such as the fake 'sign' (vandalism) on his door, are still circulating without challenge in social control media such as Twitter and YouTube, e.g. days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRw994w7Qk [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Free Software Foundation in Trouble? - YouTube [00:44] CrystalMath with all due respect, Luke Smith is totally deluded if he truly believes free software has won [00:44] CrystalMath just because we have something on the table doesn't mean we won [00:45] MinceR he seems to be deluded about several things [00:45] schestowitz I did not say that I agree [00:46] MinceR also, that video is boring as fuck [00:47] schestowitz he did make some better videos more recently [00:47] schestowitz e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/05/16/luke-smith-on-freesw/ [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Luke Smith on Why Free Software Matters and Open Source is Meaningless | Techrights [00:47] schestowitz doing a video about freesw inside a car on a 'smart' 'phone' [00:48] techrights-news "Recently a known strong-opinion-holder Casey Muratori wrote a reference implementation for a new fast terminal renderer." https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2021/07/looking-at-performance-of-refterm.html [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew: Looking at the performance of Refterm [00:49] techrights-news Ruining fine trees to make useless crap. Well done, Red Hatters... http://adam.younglogic.com/2021/07/rough-turning-bowls/ [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | Rough turning bowls | Adam Youngs Web Log [00:51] Ariadne schestowitz: actually wooden bowls when glazed are quite reliable [00:51] Ariadne and high quality [00:52] schestowitz yes, but we can use other materials [00:52] Ariadne ceramic bowls break when dropped [00:52] Ariadne melamine bowls are considered microwave unsafe [00:52] schestowitz plastic does not [00:53] schestowitz wood can crack [00:53] Ariadne hmm, i was banned from freenode again for simply asking why irccloud is banned [00:53] MinceR "free speech" [00:53] schestowitz hahaha [00:53] Ariadne indeed [00:54] XRevan86 Ariadne: CrystalMath can explain to you why this is an exercise of free speech. [00:54] techrights-news #audacity https://nitter.eu/csolisr/status/1411805290304053256 [00:54] CrystalMath i wonder who banned you though [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Carlos Sols (@csolisr): "I'm already following how will the fork be renamed" | nitter [00:54] Ariadne he is allowed to express his speech through the form of a z-line [00:54] Ariadne CrystalMath: rasengan, right after he threatened to sue me, after which i asked to clarify if he was going to sue me [00:55] CrystalMath what did you do? [00:55] Ariadne i literally asked why irccloud is banned [00:55] CrystalMath okay but that's not something to sue over [00:55] CrystalMath there must be something else [00:55] Ariadne no shit [00:55] Ariadne well whatever [00:55] CrystalMath other people have asked, and didn't get that response [00:56] Ariadne i think i just happened to strike a nerve [00:56] CrystalMath and i mean, tons of people have asked that same question, over and over [00:56] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ye should have said that Earth is flat [00:57] XRevan86 Ariadne: That seems to help with the banning thing [00:57] CrystalMath huh? [00:57] Ariadne oh, i did say i dont give a shit about his damn bouncer [00:57] Ariadne thats probably why [00:59] XRevan86 Ariadne: Is that a reason for sueing? [00:59] Ariadne oh [00:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Just mocking what ye've said before. [00:59] Ariadne he isnt going to sue me [00:59] Ariadne he just threatened to because he was mad [00:59] MinceR why was he mad? ● Jul 05 [01:00] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ah. [01:00] schestowitz he keeps escalating [01:00] schestowitz very dumb [01:00] Ariadne because i pointed out that he was violating the non-aggression principle by banning irccloud [01:00] schestowitz like threatening to sue tomaw [01:00] MinceR ic [01:00] schestowitz or lawyerig up [01:00] CrystalMath XRevan86: i mean, liberians shut down a channel i frequented because we allowed flat earth theory and christian fundamentalism [01:00] schestowitz siccing lawyers [01:00] schestowitz with gags [01:00] MinceR it would have made more sense to point out that ircclown shot first :> [01:00] CrystalMath although technically i didn't personally need to allow it, i wasn't an op [01:01] Ariadne ircclown should not have commented, imo [01:01] Ariadne but whatever [01:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.30 swarm size (avg): 306.06 [01:01] Ariadne on the other hand, freenode hijacked like 700 channels or some shit [01:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's not a theory, I need to point out. [01:01] Ariadne so, it is understandable that they would have something to say about that [01:01] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's a hypothesis [01:01] XRevan86 I know that's not an answer, just wording. [01:01] Ariadne but, generally, businesses should not play politics [01:02] CrystalMath XRevan86: but it has its own body of thought, where the bible is what is used for evidence, rather than reality [01:02] MinceR not much of a body of thought, then [01:02] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "trolls and schizoids" [01:03] CrystalMath MinceR: a body of "thought" [01:03] CrystalMath :P [01:03] MinceR :> [01:03] Ariadne speaking of schizophrenia, i've been dealing with a schizophrenic troll who is under investigation by the LKA (german FBI) [01:03] Ariadne for stalking people [01:06] Ariadne CrystalMath: literally the entire conversation is here: https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1411823197478137857/photo/1 [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: freenode is not FOSS :( https://t.co/LB4BrsXZHx [01:06] Ariadne and here: https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1411825196550561796/photo/1 [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: apparently wanting to use irccloud on freenode is "spreading hate" https://t.co/J9Ae2XeAG5 [01:06] schestowitz freenode WAS FOSS [01:07] MinceR ah, a channel about the Lexus LFA. nice. [01:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not according to MinceR [01:07] MinceR > i want to pay $50 per year to jwheare [01:07] MinceR lold [01:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:07] *XRevan86 is officially tired, so will try others to talk about this for him. [01:07] schestowitz maybe I saw just a narrow cross section [01:08] schestowitz I never explored channels outside the real of sw/ [01:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:08] MinceR i don't know what "freenode is FOSS" is even supposed to mean [01:08] MinceR i had the impression that freenode was a company and a service, but not software [01:08] schestowitz Big FOSS [01:08] schestowitz Big Big [01:08] schestowitz Big Crown [01:08] MinceR Big Money, Big Guns! [01:08] CrystalMath well tbh that's not what freedom 0 means [01:08] schestowitz Big Overdraft [01:08] CrystalMath freedom 0 doesn't mean you get to use someone else's server however you want [01:08] schestowitz you get a crowd for the overdraft [01:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: I think the problem is that I don't see a problem with removing flat earthers from the channels. [01:09] CrystalMath yes but XRevan86, what if someone does not? [01:09] XRevan86 I am not going to fight for them. [01:09] schestowitz XRevan86: channel ops can do that [01:09] MinceR i do see a problem with the network mandating removing flat earthers from the channels [01:09] schestowitz if trolling disrupts their channels [01:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: I do wonder what the context for ##goodolddays is [01:10] XRevan86 because on IRC no one's actually looking for channels to shut down, like CrystalMath thinks [01:10] Ariadne CrystalMath: but freenode is FOSS [01:10] schestowitz sounds to me like "MAGA" rhetoric [01:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: it is also true that the channel owner (Moebius) has also said on the channel that he is a bigot, even though he never demonstrated this [01:11] schestowitz this keyboard is killing me, 4 dying keys [01:11] CrystalMath Ariadne: does freedom 0 really prevent any and all bans? [01:11] MinceR it doesn't have to be MUGU rhetoric [01:11] Ariadne CrystalMath: i don't see how freedom 0 and bans are compatible, no [01:11] MinceR when you consider that KDE 3.5 was the best KDE and D&D 3.5 was the best D&D and GNU's and Linux's best days are already in the past [01:11] Ariadne i also don't see how an IRC network can be FOSS, but i didn't claim that [01:12] MinceR or that ThinkPads used to be better than they are now [01:12] schestowitz MinceR: plasma 5 is better [01:12] schestowitz it also looks better [01:12] MinceR no, it is not [01:12] CrystalMath Ariadne: well i think of it like, running free software [01:12] schestowitz behaves better, more stable [01:12] schestowitz 3.5 is nostangia [01:12] Ariadne CrystalMath: that would be "freenode is running FOSS" [01:12] MinceR "plasma" puts trendy looks above functionality and systemd above free unix [01:12] schestowitz when "ted" (PC) was dying last year I put a KDE 3.5 live CD on it [01:12] Ariadne "freenode is FOSS" implies that freenode itself is FOSS [01:12] schestowitz I realised how not-so-good it really was [01:13] Ariadne and thus bound to freedom 0 [01:13] MinceR yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. [01:13] CrystalMath Ariadne: i'm not sure the semantics of that are to be taken so literally [01:13] schestowitz Ariadne: well, I did convince them to self-host git [01:13] Ariadne CrystalMath: he could have clarified that freenode itself is not FOSS [01:14] Ariadne i guess he will sue irccloud [01:14] Ariadne lol [01:14] CrystalMath but that would again imply something else to a reader, like that it's not usable with FOSS [01:14] CrystalMath which is not true [01:14] schestowitz there is still a debate about whether freee sw implies free speech [01:14] schestowitz we wrote TONS about it 2 years ago, many articles [01:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: defamation? [01:14] CrystalMath schestowitz: i see them as two separate things but both very important for freedom [01:14] Ariadne XRevan86: i haven't defamed him, or any of them really [01:15] Ariadne i just posted OSINT that i personally verified about all of them [01:15] XRevan86 Ariadne: By the way, I keep asking but I just don't know whom to ask: is what freenode, Ltd. doing with Shells actually legal? [01:15] schestowitz very weak grounds for any lawsuits that are SUCCESSFUL here [01:15] schestowitz the burden of proof is high [01:15] schestowitz you need to also prove intent to lie [01:15] Ariadne i mean if they wish to sue me, i will get them classified as a vexatious litigant [01:15] Ariadne sooo [01:15] Ariadne :) [01:15] schestowitz and for that you then prove 1) high damage and 2) the lies were understood and intended only to harm [01:16] *schestowitz never got sued, but got empty threats [01:16] schestowitz Lee is just prick-waving [01:16] Ariadne ^ [01:16] schestowitz a lot of it is posturing [01:17] schestowitz so lads, who will win, Lee of Habbeb? [01:17] schestowitz Habeeb [01:17] Ariadne habeeb duh [01:17] schestowitz they even asked that [01:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [01:17] schestowitz like both of them are fighters [01:17] Ariadne like that is not a contest lol [01:18] Librarian This looks like a pretty fun project: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Hardware/research/e-readers [01:18] schestowitz I mean, ask something like, can Habbeb win in <10 seconds [01:18] Ariadne that shit would be like one-punch man [01:19] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LlI5lgWvg [01:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fastest Knockout in UFC history ( 3 seconds! ) - YouTube [01:19] schestowitz you can watch it like 10 times [01:19] schestowitz ina minute [01:20] Ariadne yeah that's basically [01:20] Ariadne how andrew vs habeeb would go [01:21] schestowitz gn [01:21] MinceR o/ [01:22] CrystalMath goodnight schestowitz [01:23] XRevan86 , , . . [01:24] immibis Okay, that's enough repeating what I've already answered. You are welcome to continue to provide evidence of your psychopathy, by ingoring what I've already written and making up additional falsehoods. [01:29] Librarian That message was brought to you by someone who is mentally incapable of discerning whether what he pastes is actually relevant to the context in which he pastes it. [01:30] Librarian Take note: his mental incapacity, both the inability to judge context and his psychopathy, are common to *all* socialists who are not already living in kibbutzim or communes. There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than immibis is demonstrating himself to be here. 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TotalIn: 1.7 GB TotalOut: 472 MB [03:06] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:08] techrights-ipfs-bot QmeUHDj1sX5kJUYKzH1rtAQ3jcDnWVSc1LmvbW2UUK6NTN [03:14] psydruid https://www.golem.de/news/windows-und-office-tausende-verfahren-wegen-unserioeser-microsoft-lizenzen-2103-154691.html [03:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Golem.de: IT-News fr Profis [03:35] AdmFubar psydruid: that link is funny as can be! [03:37] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:37] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:37] AdmFubar https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/29/22555371/microsoft-windows-11-cpu-support-hardware-requirements-tpm-response [03:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Windows 11 will leave millions of PCs behind, and Microsoft is struggling to explain why - The Verge [03:37] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [03:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:42] MinceR because got to force the DRM chip and Restricted Boot onto people, obviously [03:44] AdmFubar Linux users need to leverage the switch in hardware requirements, to use GNU/Linux to all the affected users of win10 as the upgrade path. [03:45] MinceR from the golem.de article: "The buyers are not only accused of violating copyright law, but also money laundering." [03:45] MinceR also sends a clear message: don't buy microshit license keys [03:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:46] AdmFubar don't buy into m$ at all [03:46] MinceR indeed [03:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:48] AdmFubar uhg... july 4th always feels like one is living in a war zone... 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There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than Librarian is demonstrating himself to be here. 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The community deserved the announcement." https://phanes.silogroup.org/the-gods-can-bleed/ #GnomeFoundation http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation#Introduction [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes First compliance report by #Google , #Facebook under IT rules big step towards transparency: Prasad https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/first-compliance-report-by-google-facebook-under-it-rules-big-step-towards-transparency-prasad/84091948 [09:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | new IT rules: First compliance report by Google, Facebook under IT rules big step towards transparency: Prasad, IT News, ET CIO [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #TheStrategist #Misinformation #Disinformation #StopAsianHate: Chinese diaspora targeted by CCP disinformation campaign https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/stopasianhate-chinese-diaspora-targeted-by-ccp-disinformation-campaign/ [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aspistrategist.org.au | #StopAsianHate: Chinese diaspora targeted by CCP disinformation campaign | The Strategist [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Censorship Indiscriminate Messaging And #CHATCONTROL: Last Chance To Protest https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/indiscriminate-messaging-and-chatcontrol-last-chance-to-protest/ [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Indiscriminate messaging and #chatcontrol: Last chance to protest Patrick Breyer [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #India #Censorship Censoring films https://www.newagebd.net/article/142821/censoring-films "The film producer labours under a grave handicap. He has either to submit to the cuts or fight it out in the courts." [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newagebd.net | Censoring films [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #MSPoweruser #Censorship Microsof [sic] reportedly hides your #LinkedIn profile in #China if you mention #Tiananmen Square https://mspoweruser.com/microsof-reportedly-hides-your-linkedin-profile-in-china-if-you-mention-tiananmen-square/ [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsof reportedly hides your LinkedIn profile in China if you mention Tiananmen Square - MSPoweruser [09:30] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:31] techrights-news NEWS #TheJewishVoice #Censorship NJ Beauty Queen Rails Against Censorship & Champions First Amendment at Atlantic City Competit ion https://thejewishvoice.com/2021/07/nj-beauty-queen-rails-against-censorship-champions-first-amendment-at-atlantic-city-competition/ [09:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thejewishvoice.com | NJ Beauty Queen Rails Against Censorship & Champions First Amendment at Atlantic City Competition - The Jewish Voice [09:34] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Monopolies #FTC charges chip supplier #Broadcom with monopolizing the market https://thehill.com/policy/technology/561374-ftc-charges-chip-supplier-broadcom-with-monopolizing-the-market [09:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FTC charges chip supplier Broadcom with monopolizing the market | TheHill [09:34] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #PresumptionOfGuilt Should Internet Users Pay a #sharing Levy To Ensure Creators Get Paid? 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Doctolib stores your medical records and is used to take medical appointments..." ttps://mamot.fr/@sossalemaire/106521154527535621 [12:24] techrights-news "How would you feel if your private mail was opened and scanned without any reason?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/106521635969483718 [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "All EU MEPs were sent opened letters by @gbs_org@" - chaos.social [12:24] techrights-news Sounds like #ibm #microsoft etc. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/04/drop-woke-posing-stick-day-job-companies-told/ [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Drop the woke posing and stick to your day job, companies told [12:25] techrights-news Lets Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peoples Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb in Peace') http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peoples Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb in Peace) | Techrights [12:56] techrights-news Do Not Settle on Just One Internet Protocol and Supplier http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/no-single-point-of-failure/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/no-single-point-of-failure/ [12:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Do Not Settle on Just One Internet Protocol and Supplier | Techrights ● Jul 05 [13:01] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.16 swarm size (avg): 305.48 [13:01] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [13:36] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:37] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:45] bradchaus one has to laugh ... there is a guy I know who is apparently a devop (so he says ... no quals ... not that that is necessarily a factor ... but is a windows aficionado ... I made the comment "why does a desktop OS (win11) need 64GB ... he went into his usual spin about how I have no job (because I am retired, with 50 years IT experience) ... so therefore I know F*ck all ... so I did some tests, and found that even RHEL8 Workstation, [13:45] bradchaus with virtually EVERYTHING installed that one could install, used about 22GB ... so I wrote a short spiel and whilst he is yet to denounce me as an idiot, another person wrote, when I asked, why does an OS need 64GB to install, when all of this in RHEL8 Workstation fits in 22GB, she answered "of course that will be small you didn't install all the tracking tools and telemetry" ROFL [13:46] bradchaus any interested in what my experiments showed is welcome to the data [13:53] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:53] XRevan86 https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1411070627713277955 the conclusion of that story. [13:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WilliamShatner: Let me be crystal clear. I dont know this woman at all. In NO WAY am I going to tolerate vernacular like this. I a https://t.co/jDElKgA7iE [13:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WilliamShatner: Let me be crystal clear. I dont know this woman at all. In NO WAY am I going to tolerate vernacular like this. I a https://t.co/jDElKgA7iE [13:56] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [13:57] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [13:57] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [13:58] schestowitz XRevan86: that didn't work out well [13:58] schestowitz told you [13:58] schestowitz no good can come out of this [13:58] schestowitz same thing happened to Wikileaks [13:59] schestowitz after RT had merely licensed some RT series [13:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: Did RT lie about them too? ● Jul 05 [14:00] schestowitz https://www.dartmouthfilms.com/ [14:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dartmouthfilms.com | Dartmouth Films | Documentary Production and Distribution | [14:00] schestowitz XRevan86: maybe not RT [14:00] schestowitz corporate media in US [14:00] schestowitz looking to paint WL as "rusha" [14:00] MinceR Phanes/fn: if it bleeds, we can kill it. [14:01] schestowitz https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794070774659371008?lang=en-gb [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: @MarkDiStef The interview was given to Dartmouth Films for ITV. It has been sold to Australian broadcaster SBS, RT and others. [14:01] bradchaus evening folks from oz, by the way ... hope youe are all well [14:02] schestowitz they keep bringing that up, even 1 decade later https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/794071129178701825 [14:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @MarkDiStef Seeing "Russia" in everything. HRC syndrome. [14:02] schestowitz f! I cannot type [14:03] schestowitz my keyboard is pure shit now [14:03] schestowitz 4 bad keys [14:03] bradchaus read about Larry Ellison (Oracle) today (I think I got the link from here) ... and I have to say I am not surprised ... tha a-hole stole SQL from IBM in the beginning ... and has perpetrated his methods ever since [14:03] schestowitz HP should die [14:03] bradchaus thats way back when I was just starting in this ibdustry .. (70s) [14:05] bradchaus all the "good" guys would turn in their graves [14:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: I think Shatner can make an episode of "I don't understand" about this situation where he didn't understand why a lot of people are angry with him :) [14:06] bradchaus I hope techrights carried for many years after I am gone turning this industry back into something decent and worthwhile for humans [14:06] bradchaus currently t disgusts me [14:06] bradchaus it [14:06] MinceR also, it's hilarious that aaron basset drank so much of the microsoft koolaid he expects people who support free software to use shithub [14:08] MinceR s/et/ett/ [14:09] XRevan86 > In a press release promoting I Don't Understand the show's executive producer, Mikhail Solodovnikov said, "We are very proud to bring the inimitable talent of William Shatner to our network. [14:10] XRevan86 Boy oh boy, that's quite a rabbit-hole. [14:11] bradchaus the biggest problem is that the law is so far behind the tech, AND, that there are such pricks that have influence with no fear of retribution ... this isn't what people, like me, saw the net and software development, tech generally, becoming because of the, what we all thought, was the liberating effect of the public internet ... [14:11] XRevan86 Mikhail Solodovnikov is the news director of RT America, so that means that the show still has direct ties to RT. [14:11] bradchaus it hasnt grown ... its festered [14:12] schestowitz bradchaus: yes, there are issues [14:14] techrights-news #GamingOnLinux is 12 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/12-years-ago-we-appeared-online-happy-birthday-to-gamingonlinux [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-12 years ago we appeared online, Happy Birthday to GamingOnLinux | GamingOnLinux [14:15] techrights-news Destination Linux 233: Its Time Pipewire Faces The Music & Jills Treasure Hunt https://destinationlinux.org/episode-233/ #destinationlinux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 233: It's Time Pipewire Faces The Music & Jill's Treasure Hunt - Destination Linux [14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [14:17] techrights-news DOSBox-X and #DOSBox Staging both had new releases lately https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/dosbox-x-and-dosbox-staging-both-had-new-releases-lately [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOSBox-X and DOSBox Staging both had new releases lately | GamingOnLinux [14:18] techrights-news #ibm is dead man walking https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/ibm_opinion_column/ [14:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Big Blue's big email blues signal terminal decline unless it learns to migrate itself The Register [14:19] bradchaus heh ... the register [14:20] techrights-news "$300B over how many decades? If this market segment ever reaches $300B, IBM will onlt have a minuscule share of it. If there is money to be made in cloud, it won't be IBM taking the lion's share of it." #clowncomputing = unicorns, imperialistic scam, subsidised #surveillance https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFrUGmG#replies [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | cloud paks = $300B, don't cry ibmers - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:21] MinceR paks? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paks [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Paks - Wikipedia [14:21] techrights-news #Lutris needs to #deletegithub ... there cannot be proper #freesw when so dependent on #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly and criminal mobsters like #microsoft https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/game-manager-lutris-0584-out-as-a-small-fixup-before-the-next-major-release [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Game manager Lutris 0.5.8.4 out as a small fix-up before the next major release | GamingOnLinux [14:22] schestowitz MinceR: sounds racist [14:22] schestowitz but IBM is not racist [14:22] MinceR lol [14:22] schestowitz it says it is not [14:22] schestowitz say "Pak" here and you're instantly racist [14:23] MinceR they merely help racists? [14:23] schestowitz 'merely' [14:23] schestowitz I did a 43-min video about it [14:23] schestowitz uploading atm [14:23] schestowitz will be ready soon [14:24] schestowitz want to check it? [14:24] MinceR don't have time [14:24] schestowitz understandable.. [14:25] techrights-news "Sadly, they've been pretty quiet on what's going on with the #GNU #Linux version. However, the official website still clearly has the Linux icon and their direct pre-orders using BackerKit still very clearly mention it too so hopefully they won't go back on it since they're still taking money for it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/nightdive-studios-show-off-new-system-shock-footage [14:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nightdive Studios show off new System Shock footage | GamingOnLinux [14:25] bradchaus this may seem like a silly question, or maybe I am not well-read enough, but why does so much of this "problem" seem to stem very largely from the USA ... not that I am saying oz, uk, eu etc are blameless, but the so called big 4 (8 by my count) ... are US companies [14:28] techrights-news "The Kickstarter managed to raise around $1,350,700 back in 2016, with #GNU #Linux support being confirmed after they hit the $1.1 million stretch-goal." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/nightdive-studios-show-off-new-system-shock-footage [14:29] Ariadne these days, all of the game engines like Unity and Unreal Engine and so on support Linux, so there is really no reason not to do a Linux release [14:29] Ariadne (and many do for the GNU/Linux world) [14:32] schestowitz uuity is mono :( [14:32] schestowitz *unity [14:32] schestowitz broken keyboard [14:34] MinceR does UE even support Linux anymore? [14:35] MinceR the FAQ says "You can view our recommended and minimum hardware and software specifications for Windows, macOS, and Linux here.", and links to https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/Basics/RecommendedSpecifications/ [14:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.unrealengine.com | Hardware and Software Specifications | Unreal Engine Documentation [14:35] schestowitz MinceR: not properly [14:35] MinceR which is just windows, windows, windows [14:35] schestowitz mono first [14:35] schestowitz microsoft first [14:35] schestowitz hungar... oops, linux second [14:35] MinceR also, apparently epic believes windows is "hardware" now [14:35] schestowitz lol [14:35] schestowitz epic fail [14:35] MinceR or even both hardware and software [14:35] schestowitz well, google also [14:35] schestowitz "chromeook" [14:36] schestowitz like google is baked into it [14:36] schestowitz apple "i" and "mac" [14:36] MinceR fuck epic, they've fucked up hard [14:36] MinceR they promised a GNU/Linux client for UT3, which never appeared [14:36] bradchaus if windows is hardware, its about as hard as my 70yo penis :P [14:36] MinceR then they killed UT4 off in favor of that piece of shit called fortnite [14:37] schestowitz did you ever play it? [14:37] schestowitz the game, not he penis? [14:37] schestowitz *the [14:37] bradchaus hehe [14:37] schestowitz broken keyboard here [14:37] MinceR i played UT1, UT2003, UT2004 and what little of UT4 exists [14:37] schestowitz fortnite became like a cult followig [14:37] schestowitz "everyone is playing it" [14:38] schestowitz "so I should too" [14:38] schestowitz same for FB, twitter [14:38] MinceR fortnite is super-casual pay2win shit designed to milk players for money [14:38] bradchaus computer games has never been an interest of mine ... not shoot 'em up, car crashing, mad max type anyway [14:39] MinceR (typically their parents' money) [14:42] techrights-news Corporations Are Not People and They Care About No People Other Than Their Own Executives http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/corporations-are-not-people/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/corporations-are-not-people/ [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Are Not People and They Care About No People Other Than Their Own Executives | Techrights [14:46] techrights-news Index PnP An open-source pick-and-place machine for mid-scale manufacturing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153049 [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Index PnP An open-source pick-and-place machine for mid-scale manufacturing | Tux Machines [14:47] techrights-news #Games : The Greatest Penguin Heist of All Time, Lutris, Minesweeper, RimWorld and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153050 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: The Greatest Penguin Heist of All Time, Lutris, Minesweeper, RimWorld and More | Tux Machines [14:50] techrights-news #QNAP QTS 5 .0 beta now available with Linux Kernel 5.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153051 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QNAP QTS 5 .0 beta now available with Linux Kernel 5.10 | Tux Machines [14:51] schestowitz bradchaus: it is not innovative anymore [14:51] schestowitz I played wolfenstein [14:51] schestowitz and warcraft 1+2 [14:51] schestowitz a lot [14:51] schestowitz those were introducing new concepts [14:52] schestowitz later we just got more polygons and stuff, but the gameplay remained largely the same [14:52] schestowitz for touchscreens things like cut the rope and angry birds were a thing [14:52] bradchaus gawd ... i remember something way back in the 80/90s ... invasion of planets type of thing ... what was that? [14:53] schestowitz Dune [14:53] bradchaus civilisation or something? [14:53] bradchaus Dune ... hats it [14:53] bradchaus thats [14:53] schestowitz very good game [14:53] bradchaus great game [14:53] bradchaus networked [14:53] schestowitz now PCs are too powerful [14:53] bradchaus mke a move, and wait an eternity for someone else to make a move LOL [14:54] schestowitz so people focus on how to use up their capacity [14:54] schestowitz with limited resources they focused on making games engaging and fun [14:54] bradchaus exactly [14:54] bradchaus its al bling these days [14:54] bradchaus like movies really [14:56] bradchaus I did play kings quest ... that was good [14:56] Ariadne honestly warcraft 3 was the shit [14:56] Ariadne making warcraft 3 mods was my first taste of writing code [14:56] Ariadne in lua [14:56] techrights-news #MakuluLinux Flash 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152852#comment-30143 #gnu #linux [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Flash is Live + Extras ! | Tux Machines [14:57] techrights-news #darktable 3.6: Summer Release 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153052 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | darktable 3.6: Summer Release 2021 | Tux Machines [14:57] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153053 #Linux #TuxMachines [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:58] bradchaus lua is interesting ... combines c++/pascal/alogol/ada/modula/ and all sorts of things ... a mixed bag ● Jul 05 [15:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.15 swarm size (avg): 305.34 [15:03] schestowitz tears in tagalog [15:03] *CrystalMath (~coderain@cjxres4nvhgyy.irc) has joined #techrights [15:03] schestowitz bradchaus: kings quest had many in the sequel [15:03] schestowitz because it was that good [15:03] bradchaus they did [15:04] bradchaus oly played 1,2,3 [15:04] bradchaus only [15:04] schestowitz later monkey island, police quest, space quest etc. [15:04] schestowitz sierra era [15:04] schestowitz sierra is dead now [15:04] bradchaus yep [15:04] schestowitz the music you can get online [15:05] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:06] techrights-news "Explore how the principles behind open source--collaboration, transparency, and rapid prototyping--are proven catalysts for innovation." https://opensource.com/article/21/7/legacy-code [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I avoid breaking functionality when modifying legacy code | Opensource.com [15:10] techrights-news Things to do after installing Fedora 34 Workstation - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/things-to-do-after-installing-fedora-34-workstation/ #Fedora #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linuxmagazine [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Things to do after installing Fedora 34 Workstation - Fedora Magazine [15:10] techrights-news #ibm #fedora today: "We will be applying updates and rebooting servers into new kernels. During the outage window some services may be up and down, but we will try and keep downtime as minimal as possible." [15:13] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153054 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:14] techrights-news #PostgreSQL Weekly News - July 4, 2021 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-weekly-news-july-4-2021-2256/ #psql [15:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Weekly News - July 4, 2021 [15:15] techrights-news "Version 22.0 of Ora2Pg, a free and reliable tool used to migrate an Oracle database to PostgreSQL, has been officially released and is publicly available for download." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/ora2pg-v220-and-221-released-2252/ [15:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Ora2Pg v22.0 and 22.1 released [15:18] techrights-news Very sad to see #IBM boosting #CompTIA after what those crooks had done to #opendocument in an effort to secure #microsoft #monopoly and many crimes committed https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/digital-transformation-7-signs-of-progress [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 7 signs you're making progress | The Enterprisers Project [15:20] Librarian Looks like immibis is still suffering from his mental breakdown in which he's incapable of judging the context into which he's pasting his mindless parroting, to ensure what he pastes is relevant to the context. :D [15:21] techrights-news Helping Josef Strzibny for money https://nts.strzibny.name/how-i-earn-over-750-month/ #programming skills needed [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | How I earn over $750 a month from my unfinished book [15:21] Librarian That's okay: it's just still more evidence that socialists (aside from the ethical ones, who are already living their ideals in kibbutzim and communes) are really just violent, greedy totalitarians with zero capacity for rational thought. [15:21] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.217.252) has joined #techrights [15:25] techrights-news A diversity or an abundance of technical means, not superficial political stuff, is more likely to assure sustainable and uninterrupted (unfettered) operations in an age of a deeply divisive culture http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/no-single-point-of-failure/ [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Do Not Settle on Just One Internet Protocol and Supplier | Techrights [15:26] techrights-news #PostgreSQL : Datasentinel, Ora2Pg, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153055 #db #psql #TuxMachines [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL: Datasentinel, Ora2Pg, and More | Tux Machines [15:27] techrights-news The #Conservative media in the #UK says that almost half of Britons are fed up with companies interjecting #politics and posing as Ethical (based on mostly superficial issues) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/corporations-are-not-people/ #morality #ethics | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/corporations-are-not-people/ [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Are Not People and They Care About No People Other Than Their Own Executives | Techrights [15:27] Librarian This isn't related to tech rights, but it is an interesting anecdote about how, when socialism deprives people of economic freedom, it always drives up the cost of living and impoverishes people who live there. Trying to implement imaginary economics in the real world has real consequences. [15:27] Librarian https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/04/apple-expanding-silicon-valley-talent/ [15:27] Librarian "Gurman reports that Apple has faced a variety of problems recruiting and retaining talent because of its emphasis on Silicon Valley. [15:27] Librarian Gurman writes that Apple has been losing talent because of the high-cost of living in the San Francisco Bay Area. Many engineers lamented that they couldnt balance living expenses with other pursuits like college tuition for their children and long-term savings, Gurman says." [15:28] techrights-news New Linux 5.14 Tracer To Help With Measuring Operating System Noise - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-Tracers #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Linux 5.14 Tracer To Help With Measuring Operating System Noise - Phoronix [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:28] techrights-news Linux 5.14's Perf Tooling Makes Preparations For Intel Alder Lake - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-Perf-Tooling #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14's Perf Tooling Makes Preparations For Intel Alder Lake - Phoronix [15:29] MinceR 05 155218 <~schestowitz> later we just got more polygons and stuff, but the gameplay remained largely the same [15:29] MinceR not true [15:29] MinceR doom changed a lot of gameplay and introduced multiplayer [15:29] MinceR quake introduced client-server architecture [15:30] MinceR quakeworld introduced client-side prediction [15:30] MinceR unreal tournament also brought some innovation [15:31] MinceR and xonotic combined a lot of what was invented before and formalized some things that appeared accidentally before (various modes of fast movement -- and it also added its own) [15:31] techrights-news #Audacity is SPYING on You! What the alternative!! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30144 [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux Machines [15:32] MinceR hexen and hexen2 added puzzle and rpg elements; strife added even more rpg elements [15:33] techrights-news Enter invisible passwords using this #Python module | https://opensource.com/article/21/7/invisible-passwords-python #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enter invisible passwords using this Python module | Opensource.com [15:37] techrights-news #Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.27 For Messing Up https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/07/05/2021-27-for-messing-up/ #rakulang #programming [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.27 For Messing Up Rakudo Weekly News [15:38] techrights-news WP Briefing: Episode 12: WordPress In Person! https://wordpress.org/news/2021/07/episode-12-wordpress-in-person/ #wordpress #freesw #www [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News Episode 12: WordPress In Person! WordPress.org [15:38] bradchaus schestowitz ... i been thinking about that old game I was reminiscing about ... i think it was Federation [15:38] techrights-news #Kernel: Noise, Hardware, and Storage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153056 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Noise, Hardware, and Storage | Tux Machines [15:39] superkuh Why not just ignore him, immibis? [15:43] schestowitz does not ring a bell,bradchaus [15:43] schestowitz Tactico? [15:43] bradchaus its an oldie, like me LOL [15:45] bradchaus played it on a DEC Ultrix workstation in the 80s [15:54] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:55] schestowitz ah, predates me [15:57] bradchaus hehe [15:58] techrights-news Daniel Stenberg: #curl user survey 2021 https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/07/05/curl-user-survey-2021/ [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl user survey 2021 | daniel.haxx.se [15:58] Librarian Or, better yet: simply stop fighting against that which you cannot refute, and accept it. [15:58] Librarian In science it often happens that scientists say, You know thats a really good argument; my position is mistaken, and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesnt happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last [15:59] Librarian time something like that happened in politics or religion. [15:59] Librarian -Carl Sagan, 1987 CSICOP keynote address [15:59] techrights-news Reports for #GSoC in #LibreOffice and #OpenSUSE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153057 #TuxMachines [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reports for GSoC in LibreOffice and OpenSUSE | Tux Machines ● Jul 05 [16:00] techrights-news #hp sucks https://etbe.coker.com.au/2021/07/05/servers-and-lockdown/ [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Servers and Lockdown etbe - Russell Coker [16:05] techrights-news As usual, like every month, 90% #GNU / #Linux and 10% #FreeBSD . No Windows. https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/07/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-june-2021.html [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in June 2021 | Netcraft News [16:06] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:06] *pandakekok9 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:07] techrights-news darktable 3.6: Summer Release 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152985#comment-30145 [16:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Darktable 3.6 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Released with Many New Features | Tux Machines [16:11] techrights-news #JupiterNano Is a Tiny Microcontroller That Runs Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153047#comment-30146 [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jupiter Nano tiny Cortex-A5 board runs Linux or NuttX RTOS (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines [16:11] techrights-news #HowTo Open a Magnet Link in Any Browser - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-magnet-link-in-browser/ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Open a Magnet Link in Any Browser - Make Tech Easier [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:14] techrights-news Calls to Help Creating an #Audacity Fork http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153021#comment-30147 #gpl #freesw [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity is now a Possible Spyware, Remove it ASAP | Tux Machines [16:16] techrights-news #USENIX #LISA2021 Computing Performance: On the Horizon http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-07-05/computing-performance-on-the-horizon.html [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brendangregg.com | USENIX LISA2021 Computing Performance: On the Horizon [16:18] techrights-news Imagine doing an 'open' spec on a #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of convicted gangsters https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-1.2.184 #Vulkan [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan 1.2.184 Includes NVIDIA Extension For RDMA Usage - Phoronix [16:20] techrights-news Mass #surveillance in "good Samaritan" clothing https://popey.com/blog/2021/07/my-least-used-favourite-app/ first they told us "apps" would make us "healthy" and "safe" or "fit"... [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | My Least Used Favourite App - Alan Pope's blog [16:21] techrights-news #rms talk which covers many of the reasons NOT to carry around a so-called 'phone' http://techrights.org/2021/07/04/rms-switzerland-talk/ [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman 2019 Free Software Speech: Ethics and Freedom in a Digital Age (Zurich, Switzerland) | Techrights [16:22] techrights-news One year ago: 'Linux' (or Linux Foundation) Rapidly Becoming Stalins Dream techrights.org/2020/07/21/stalin-dream/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: techrights.org/2020/07/21/stalin-dream/ [16:24] techrights-news WTH? "linuxtechlab" (yes, Linux) boosting #ProprietarySoftware that does not even support #gnu #linux at all. What's the point?! https://linuxtechlab.com/which-tools-does-game-artist-use/ [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Which Tools does Game Artist use? - LinuxTechLab [16:28] techrights-news #Monopolies on recipes without #copyright and #patent #law https://www.managingip.com/article/b1skpm2m3n4fws/july-4th-special-trade-secrets-and-family-recipes [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | July 4th special: trade secrets and family recipes | Managing Intellectual Property [16:30] techrights-news #EPO scandal still an ongoing circus and kangaroo court-like rigged panels https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1087290/g121-hearing-at-the-epo-july see http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/no-decision-on-vico/ [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | G1/21 Hearing At The EPO July - Intellectual Property - UK [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ViCo Technical Issues Already Curtail the Case About EPO ViCo, Decision Cannot be Issued Today! | Techrights [16:31] techrights-news The Enlarged Board of Appeal (EBA) has no legitimacy anymore because it is demonstrably rigged. Are we suddenly supposed to look past this issue, or cherry-pick things? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/double-trouble-eba-finds-legal.html [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Double trouble: EBA finds legal justification for the prohibition of double patenting (G4/19) - The IPKat [16:33] techrights-news #Patents on cars and shapes? Or someone doesn't know the difference between patents and #trademarks , and moreover thinks #EUIPO grants patents??? https://www.autoevolution.com/news/beetle-rip-off-ora-punk-cat-is-now-patent-protected-164632.html se e [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beetle Rip-Off ORA Punk Cat Is Now Patent-Protected - autoevolution [16:43] *ornxka has quit (Changing host) [16:43] *ornxka (~ornxka@user/ornxka) has joined #techrights [16:46] *psymin (~psymin@9yf7rmsqpjjte.irc) has joined #techrights [16:46] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [16:51] *superkuh has quit (Excess Flood) [16:52] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [16:52] *L0j1k (~L0j1k@irc.tckrsystems.net) has joined #techrights [16:53] *L0j1k is now known as Guest1643 [16:53] *bleb_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:54] *L0j1k- has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:54] *bleb (~cm@user/bleb) has joined #techrights ● Jul 05 [17:01] *ciphrCat has quit (Quit: outta here) [17:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.91 swarm size (avg): 305.28 [17:02] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [17:07] techrights-news "Bob Lord ran AOL into the ground and is now helping to do the same at IBM. AOL remember those guys? They should be ruling the world. Great track record Bobby boy! Your a real visionary LOL" #aol #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bEhoBch#replies [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM chief Arvind Krishna cements his position as heir apparent quits - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:07] techrights-news #Community Member Monday: Tim Brennan Jr. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153058 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Community Member Monday: Tim Brennan Jr. | Tux Machines [17:10] techrights-news "At #SecureDrop project we have #Python wheels built for Python 3.7 on Buster in a reproducible way. We use the same wheels inside of the #Debian packages. The whole process has checks to verify the #sha256sums based on gpg signatures, and at the end we point pip to a local directory to find all the dependencies." https://kushaldas.in/posts/reproducible-wheel-buidling-failure-on-circleci-container.html [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Reproducible wheel buidling failure on CircleCI container [17:11] techrights-news Three is the lucky number? #Fedora 33 on #IdeaPad 3 https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/lenovo-ideapad-3-fedora-33.html #dedoimedo | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Three is the lucky number? Fedora 33 on IdeaPad 3 [17:12] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153059 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:13] techrights-news "I also have had very unpleasant experiences working with Red Hat. Their professional services people arent even certified in Red Hat products - a gigantic red flag in the IT biz." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bELRu7j#replies #ibm #redhat [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Bye RH Culture - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:13] techrights-news " #RedHat was never going to save them anyway. Just sell the dog" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bELRu7j#replies #ibm [17:14] techrights-news "RedHatters: The extended honeymoon has officially ended. Your Godfather is dead. Get ready for the real bending over" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bELRu7j#replies #redhat #ibm [17:14] techrights-news "I can confirm been working on various projects that required Red Hat involved and it was a disaster with these guys. They never want to help and are definitely working against IBM." #ibm #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bELRu7j#replies [17:16] techrights-news #JimWhitehurst "becoming a "special advisor to AK", that's code for he'll spend the next couple of months helping with the transition while negotiating his exit package before leaving completely. They've already removed him from the external facing Executive Bio page." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bD34kMD#replies [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Systems - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:17] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [17:17] AdmFubar https://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/regulating-e-commerce-should-not-involve-spying-on-consumers-101625408642972.html [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | Regulating e-commerce should not involve spying on consumers - Hindustan Times [17:18] schestowitz it's a clusterf- [17:18] schestowitz look what computing has turned into [17:18] schestowitz everything worse in more ways than beneficial than analogue world [17:18] schestowitz no customer service [17:18] schestowitz more spyong [17:18] schestowitz RMS has moaned about this for decades [17:18] schestowitz it has only gotten worse since... [17:21] techrights-news Philip Withnall: Dont (generally) put documentation license in appdata https://tecnocode.co.uk/2021/07/05/dont-generally-put-cc-by-sa-in-appdata/ "the expression as a whole is considered not free software (CC-BY-SA-3.0 is not a free software license as per the FSF or OSI lists)." [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecnocode.co.uk | Dont (generally) put documentation license in appdata | Philip Withnall [17:21] techrights-news Regulating e-commerce should not involve spying on consumers https://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/regulating-e-commerce-should-not-involve-spying-on-consumers-101625408642972.html via AdmFubar. #privacy #surveillance #hindustantimes [17:22] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153060 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:24] techrights-news Gurman: #Apple rapidly expanding outside of Silicon Valley as it struggles to recruit and retain talent - 9to5Mac https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/04/apple-expanding-silicon-valley-talent/ #pentagonValley is no disneyworld [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gurman: Apple rapidly expanding outside of Silicon Valley as it struggles to recruit and retain talent - 9to5Mac [17:25] techrights-news I'm not sure #Apple attracted talent to begin with, but cults tend to confuse blind loyalty or faith for other things [17:27] techrights-news #Patents that typically ought not exist in the first place; making licensing mandatory makes them seem tolerable or honourable, but in fact there's no justification for them (economically or otherwise) http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/05/compulsory-licensing-australia/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Compulsory Licensing Australia - Kluwer Patent Blog [17:28] techrights-news Instead of saving lives they try to save their #patents https://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/uk_supreme_court_rules_in_favour_of_servier_in_nhs_patent_lawsuit_1372669 #france #nhs #Coversyl #Servier [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Supreme Court rules in favour of Servier in NHS patent lawsuit - PMLiVE [17:41] techrights-news Links 5/7/2021: Audacity Fork, Jupiter Nano With Linux and XiangShan With Free Design http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/xiangshan-with-free-design/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/xiangshan-with-free-design/ [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/7/2021: Audacity Fork, Jupiter Nano With Linux and XiangShan With Free Design | Techrights [17:43] techrights-news #FreeSofrware , #Programming , and Standards http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153061 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Sofrware, Programming, and Standards | Tux Machines [17:46] techrights-news "That would be the real #ibm transformation. Become a company of experts (not accountants and sales)." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bGf6TVS#replies [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Quit financial engineering and go back to your roots, IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:46] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153062 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:48] techrights-news "Continuing with #newinbullseye. One package that isnt new but its tools are used by many of us is util-linux, providing many essential system utilities. There is util-linux v2.33.1 in #Debian /buster and util-linux v2.36.1 in Debian/bullseye, and as usual there are many new features and options available." https://michael-prokop.at/blog/2021/07/05/debian-bullseye-changes-in-util-linux-newinbullseye/ [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael-prokop.at | mikas blog Blog Archive Debian bullseye: changes in util-linux #newinbullseye [17:49] techrights-news #HowTo Use seq to Generate a Sequence of Numbers in Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-seq-to-generate-a-sequence-of-numbers-in-linux/ #gnu ... not #linux http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Use seq to Generate a Sequence of Numbers in Linux [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights [17:51] MinceR 05 182831 < techrights-news> Instead of saving lives they try to save their #patents [17:51] MinceR bill gAIDS is doing the same [17:52] techrights-news #gnu #Linux overview | #deepinLinux 20.2.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152930#comment-30148 [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Linux Deepin/Hiweed Linux, Sparky Linux, and Vincent Bernat's Upgrade | Tux Machines [17:53] schestowitz MinceR: but CHARITY! [17:54] schestowitz don't say this in Twitter [17:54] schestowitz they would BAN you [17:54] schestowitz to protect the criminal [17:56] MinceR :> [17:58] schestowitz social control media = mass control over speech, at scale... [17:59] schestowitz harder to enforce against millions of blogs ● Jul 05 [18:06] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/carpmaels-ransford-sued-for-missed.html?showComment=1625392051259#c7529123109071725061 [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Carpmaels & Ransford sued for missed appeal deadline - The IPKat [18:06] schestowitz "The European Patent Office issued the minutes of oral Proceedings and stapled the written decision to the back, which sets the appeal deadline. It is totally understandable that it was missed by Carpmaels Records department and the EPO have to take some of the blame for the way the dispatched the communications. I therefore feel the the restoration decision was very harsh and wish Carpmaels luck." [18:08] techrights-news Ron Katznelson in #patent extremists' site #watchtroll the latest to attack #scotus for merely assserting that #ptab is OK to throw out #fakePatents (which should NEVER HAVE BEEN GRANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE!) [18:11] techrights-news The more corrupt element of #europe -- the #epo -- hasn't been tackled in any way by Brexit. Instead the #eu came under attack, ignoring the corrupt elephant in the Munich/Haar hunger room https://www.womblebonddickinson.com/uk/insights/articles-and-briefings/brexit-and-patents http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/ [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.womblebonddickinson.com | Brexit and patents | Womble Bond Dickinson [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Looney Tunes Part 2: The Difficult Legacy and Its Dark Historical Shadow | Techrights [18:12] techrights-news I know this isn't applicable to most projects/orgs, but for #techrights the #irc activity has, on average, actually increased during and after the IRC chaos and network wars [18:13] techrights-news SPAMnil doing ads for #microsoft again. The #linuxfoundation shows us not the worst elements of "Linux"; it has nothing at all to do with Linux... and sometimes it actively attacks it. Which makes sense given that LF staff isn't USING Linux. Abolish LF. Disband this thing. [18:22] techrights-news #RichardStallman 2019 Free Software Speech: Copyright, Freedom, and Privacy (Copenhagen, Denmark) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/richard-stallman-copenhagen/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/richard-stallman-copenhagen/ [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman 2019 Free Software Speech: Copyright, Freedom, and Privacy (Copenhagen, Denmark) | Techrights [18:28] gustaf https://juliareda.eu/2021/07/github-copilot-is-not-infringing-your-copyright/ [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-juliareda.eu | Julia Reda GitHub Copilot is not infringing your copyright [18:34] MinceR how is restricting copying source code is an "extension of copyright"? [18:34] MinceR and if that's an "extension of copyright", what does copyright apply to? [18:35] techrights-news #epo 'leak' to be published. ETA 20 mins. #techrights [18:36] schestowitz julia was a TOP signature in the anti-RMS letter [18:36] schestowitz makes me wonder if she bothered understanding copyleft [18:36] MinceR oh, i missed that [18:37] schestowitz of course [18:37] schestowitz many missed that [18:37] MinceR "pirate", my ass [18:37] MinceR more like corporate drone [18:38] techrights-news Turns out Julia Reda is a #microsoft apologist and #google apologist alike, just like SFC. And she signed the anti-FSF petition (personified as anti-RMS). Bye, Julia. Go enjoy your money... [18:40] gustaf heh, had no idea [18:41] schestowitz they push this narrative that RMS attacks women [18:41] schestowitz and show fake evidence [18:41] schestowitz and some women fall for it [18:41] schestowitz military-grade BS from IBM and co [18:41] gustaf I found it a useful corrective to the online clamor re: Copilot [18:41] schestowitz same tactics used against Julian Assange and others [18:41] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/18/libreplanet-2021-talk-reda/ [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video and Transcript of Julia Redas LibrePlanet Keynote Talk | Techrights ● Jul 05 [19:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.71 swarm size (avg): 305.06 [19:14] techrights-news EPOs Towards a New Normal Hogwash Just Another Attempt to Make Unlawful and Unconstitutional Policies Seem OK and Normalised http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/epo-towards-a-new-normal/ #epo #patent #patents #europe [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOs Towards a New Normal Hogwash Just Another Attempt to Make Unlawful and Unconstitutional Policies Seem OK and Normalised | Techrights [19:18] techrights-news #hp makes defective products, the silences people who point that out. I suffer a lot from their shit products... again. [19:29] techrights-news Making #EPO Crimes a New Normal http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/epo-moving-the-goalposts/ #microsoft #corruption #europe #coverup [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Making EPO Crimes a New Normal | Techrights [19:35] techrights-news No, #linux is only ever growing https://developer-tech.com/news/2021/jun/07/torvalds-hopes-future-linux-5-13-release-candidates-start-shrinking/ [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://developer-tech.com/news/2021/jun/07/torvalds-hopes-future-linux-5-13-release-candidates-start-shrinking/ ) [19:35] *zoobab has quit (*.net *.split) [19:35] *Librarian has quit (*.net *.split) [19:35] *rbraun has quit (*.net *.split) [19:35] *citoyen has quit (*.net *.split) [19:35] *immibis has quit (*.net *.split) [19:35] *KindOne has quit (*.net *.split) [19:36] techrights-news #ASUS Laptop dGPU Toggling, eGPU Handling, Panel Overdrive Patches For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASUS-Laptop-GPU-Panel-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/05/#latest [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASUS Laptop dGPU Toggling, eGPU Handling, Panel Overdrive Patches For Linux - Phoronix [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:39] *citoyen (trttl@user/io/x-8562675) has joined #techrights [19:39] *zoobab (zoobab@vic.ffii.org) has joined #techrights [19:39] *immibis (~immibis@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [19:39] *Librarian (~ld@user/librarian) has joined #techrights [19:39] *rbraun (2wwwxlhK@user/rbraun) has joined #techrights [19:39] *KindOne (kindone@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [19:40] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153063 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:40] *KindOne has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:40] *KindOne (~KindOne@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [19:40] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153064 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:41] techrights-news "I am happy observe that the The Debian Administrator's Handbook is available in six languages now."http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Six_complete_translations_of_The_Debian_Administrator_s_Handbook_for_Buster.html [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Six complete translations of The Debian Administrator's Handbook for Buster [19:43] techrights-news Sometimes it feels like the site "Linux Security" is mostly an amplifier of FUD in pursuit of sales (of products you do not really need and are connected to the site's owner) [19:45] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #ProprietarySoftware #ransomware #Kaseya https://www.govinfosecurity.com/revils-ransomware-success-formula-constant-innovation-a-16976 [19:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | REvil's Ransomware Success Formula: Constant Innovation [19:46] techrights-news Cockpit Project: Setting up PCP and #Grafana metrics with #Cockpit https://cockpit-project.org//blog/pcp-grafana.html [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Setting up PCP and Grafana metrics with Cockpit Cockpit Project [19:47] techrights-news #RMS in #Copenhagen #Denmark 4 months before #mit threw him under the bus... very shortly after an MIT scandal implicating them with #billgates and J. Epstein (underage sex trafficking) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/richard-stallman-copenhagen/ [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman 2019 Free Software Speech: Copyright, Freedom, and Privacy (Copenhagen, Denmark) | Techrights [19:47] immibis why just ignore him, superkuh? [19:47] immibis Take note: his mental incapacity, both the inability to judge context and his psychopathy, are common to *all* socialists who are not already living in kibbutzim or communes. There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than Librarian is demonstrating himself to be here. [19:47] techrights-news Documents from the #EPO serve to show the nature of the regimes agenda; it does not concern itself with the Rule of Law and it still in the latter half of 2021 tries to leverage an epidemic from 2019 to make crimes the new normal http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/epo-towards-a-new-normal/ [19:48] immibis his arguing strategy is based on throwing out so much false and irrelevant information that nobody wants to argue with him and he wins by default [19:48] techrights-news #microsoft #epo #crimes #corruption #espionage : Why bother with compliance when you can just move the goalposts instead? http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/epo-moving-the-goalposts/ [19:50] techrights-news Blint Rczey: Hello #zstd compressed .debs in Ubuntu! https://balintreczey.hu/blog/hello-zstd-compressed-debs-in-ubuntu/ #gnu #linux #debian [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-balintreczey.hu | Hello zstd compressed .debs in Ubuntu! | Obsessed with reality [19:52] techrights-news 30 mins ago: "The only business #IBM is going to get is the morsels that the big fish don't care about, and that don't get gobbled up by startups." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bGf6TVS#replies [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Quit financial engineering and go back to your roots, IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs ● Jul 05 [20:03] XRevan86 https://theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/05/russian-supermarket-faces-backlash-after-pulling-lesbian-couple-advert [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Russian supermarket faces backlash after pulling lesbian couple advert | Russia | The Guardian [20:04] XRevan86 The church has commented that pulling the ad was absolutely the right decision. [20:06] superkuh You seem to be the only person accepting the framing that there's a competition to win or lose. The only winning move is not to play. [20:21] Librarian If it's "false," why weren't y ou able to cite any dictionaries that supported your reversal of the definitions of "freedom" and "slavery?" [20:21] Librarian You seem to want to make it all about me, but it isn't about me. I've shown you the dictionary definitions and wikipedia articles that show how normal, intelligent, logical, ethical people use those terms. [20:22] Librarian It isn't me you're fighting against. It isn't me you need to "win" against. You are fighting against the basic laws of economics, ethics, and language that everyone else follows. [20:24] Librarian Well, unlike you, I'm capable of changing my mind. If you cite sources that say it's okay to enslave other people by forcing them to accept your determination of who should benefit from their labor, show me that source, and I can examine whether the foundational principles of their ethics are more peaceful and prosperous than what most of the world uses. [20:25] Librarian But, if all you have is more mental breakdowns in which you regurgitate my sentences as non-sequitur logical fallacies in contexts where they're meaningless, then we'll know you've been driven into cognitive dissonance that's caused a complete psychological break again. Up to you. [20:31] CrystalMath can't please everyone [20:44] schestowitz XRevan86: The Guardian does not write about Gates and Epstei [20:44] schestowitz but it takes money from Gates [20:45] schestowitz let's talk about RUSSIA [20:45] schestowitz it's not like in the UK we still have homophobia, right? ● Jul 05 [21:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.83 swarm size (avg): 304.89 [21:03] techrights-news Holiday for Antnio, Glass and Metal Cages for the Rest of Us http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/alicante-patent-office/ #epo #corruption #europe #patents [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Holiday for Antnio, Glass and Metal Cages for the Rest of Us | Techrights [21:07] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [21:19] gustaf "usual suspects" pushing Rust in the Linux kernel apparently https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/rust_for_linux_kernel_project/ [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Latest patches show Rust for Linux project making great strides towards the kernel The Register [21:20] gustaf ``Ojeda also mentioned that Microsoft's Linux Systems Group is contributing and hopes to submit "select Hyper-V drivers written in Rust." Arm is promising assistance with Rust for Linux on ARM-based systems. IBM has contributed Rust kernel support for its PowerPC processor.'' [21:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm just using whatever, seems like Meduza.io/en didn't cover it, so I took what I could. [21:28] schestowitz hm... did their rss feed break again? [21:28] schestowitz no update in days, maybe just weekend's impact [21:29] schestowitz gustaf: IBM, Microsoft, Google [21:29] schestowitz same who cancel RMS [21:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: I see fresh stuff in there. [21:29] schestowitz and RMS is no fan of Rust [21:29] schestowitz Rust bans Microsoft critics [21:29] XRevan86 RSSPreview is very convinient, I just open https://meduza.io/rss2/en/all in Firefox and see the feed. [21:30] XRevan86 And it shows me the most recent post that was indeed made at 2021-07-05 17:40:51 [21:31] techrights-news #Linux is besieged by #monopolies https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/rust_for_linux_kernel_project/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ #gafam #kernel #pentagon [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights [21:31] schestowitz XRevan86: I will pull RSS tomorrow [21:32] schestowitz anyone cares to proofread latest essay? [21:34] techrights-news #Debian: Blint Rczey on zstd, Petter Reinholdtsen on Book, Michael Prokop on #newinbullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153065 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Blint Rczey on zstd, Petter Reinholdtsen on Book, Michael Prokop on #newinbullseye | Tux Machines [21:34] techrights-news #darktable 3.6 Brings Some Big Summer Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153066 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | darktable 3.6 Brings Some Big Summer Updates | Tux Machines [21:38] techrights-news #Kernel : Rusty Sting, #ASUS Laptop Stuff, and Bloat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153067 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Rusty Sting, ASUS Laptop Stuff, and Bloat | Tux Machines [21:38] schestowitz going once, going twice... anyone? [21:46] techrights-news Liberation Sentry, Not 'Open Source' ( #Openwashing ) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/liberation-matters/ #freesw #opensource #rms #autonomy [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Liberation Sentry, Not Open Source (Openwashing) | Techrights [21:47] schestowitz done ^ [21:47] schestowitz I actually wrote that to pass time while the epo video is transcoding still [21:49] techrights-news #rms explains why #eBooks suck http://techrights.org/videos/rms-ebook.webm [21:55] psydruid I built Audacity 2.4.2 against as many system libraries as possible on Debian Testing/Bullseye amd64 about an hour ago, but when I run it it just crashes [21:57] psydruid There is an Audacity 2.4.2 package in the repositories that does work, so that should still be fine for the next few years [21:57] techrights-news #SocialControlMedia is grossly overrated. People out there gloat and get all excited about a million people reading some 'tweet' of theirs, but wouldn't they be better off getting a million people to read an ARTICLE of theirs, not a single sentence? (Without context) [21:58] psydruid But to me it looks like the sources have been rotting for some time without people realising [21:59] psydruid I also talked to people rallying around a/the fork today, but they all seem to be caught up in the Github spiderweb ● Jul 05 [22:00] psydruid As if they think Github equals FOSS development [22:01] psydruid And those people being suggested for maintaining such forks seem more interested in popularity contests than actually delivering a working application [22:02] XRevan86 I don't see any need for immediate actions from GNU/Linux users. [22:02] XRevan86 * action [22:03] techrights-news The EPO's Administrative Council Has Just Shown Evidence of Its Complicity (Again) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/complicity-of-epo-administrative-council/ #epo #patents #europe #corruption #microsoft [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Administrative Council Has Just Shown Evidence of Its Complicity (Again) | Techrights [22:10] schestowitz XRevan86: I'm with you on that [22:10] schestowitz sometimes negotiation can work out [22:10] schestowitz by flexing a muscle can help [22:10] schestowitz and sort out a middle ground [22:10] schestowitz I think that at the end audacity will have a PR hit [22:10] schestowitz not "pull request" [22:10] schestowitz from which it will never fully recover [22:11] schestowitz but the project will maintain the name and lose that spying agenda [22:11] schestowitz they announced this strategically before a long weekend [22:11] schestowitz but it wasn't quiet enough [22:11] schestowitz also EPO did two of the same things on Friday [22:11] schestowitz as did Microsoft [22:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: I mean it more in a sense that a user doesn't need to suddenly remove Audacity in panic now. [22:12] schestowitz this catastrophe: Kaseya https://www.govinfosecurity.com/revils-ransomware-success-formula-constant-innovation-a-16976 [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | REvil's Ransomware Success Formula: Constant Innovation [22:12] schestowitz XRevan86: with distros it's easier to remove like Debian did with iceweasel [22:12] XRevan86 but yes, I hope that this can be resolved without any drastic measures [22:12] schestowitz github, lol [22:12] schestowitz gotta love the shitshow [22:13] schestowitz we use a surveillance site to save you from audacity surveillance [22:13] schestowitz love, [22:13] schestowitz lady irony [22:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: Debian patches things out all the time, the thing about Iceweasel is trademark restrictions, which is not a thing for Audacity (yet). [22:13] psydruid that's what I meant [22:13] psydruid if you decide to fork, at least take it out of Github [22:13] XRevan86 so the repository packages in GNU/Linux distributions will be safe one way or another [22:13] schestowitz XRevan86: iirc, they later removed more cruft and antifeatures from FireFuck [22:13] schestowitz the TM issue was rendered moot only about 5 years later [22:14] schestowitz Debian stable still uses ESR, which I like [22:14] schestowitz XRevan86: wish I could say that is a "selling point" for GU [22:14] schestowitz GNU [22:14] schestowitz keyboard acting up again [22:15] schestowitz bbl when keyboard 'recovers' [22:15] schestowitz may hits today in http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/audacity-and-muse-group/ [22:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Takeover by Muse Group is No Cause for Celebration | Techrights [22:17] schestowitz I'll be off work after this coming night [22:17] schestowitz tbh, I did not pay close attention to the finer details in latest audacity backlash [22:17] schestowitz cla issue was thrown in there weeks ago [22:18] schestowitz maybe an attempt to discourage forks? [22:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: A CLA cannot stop forks though. [22:18] XRevan86 Nextcloud and MariaDB are big examples of that. [22:19] XRevan86 ownCloud and Oracle MySQL are CLAd [22:24] techrights-news #RichardStallman 2019 Speech: Free Software and Your Freedom http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/rms-bozeman/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/rms-bozeman/ [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman 2019 Speech: Free Software and Your Freedom | Techrights [22:25] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:25] techrights-news #RMS Says Stop Saying Adblock, BSD Style, Closed and More https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOlV2Qb6VsI [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RMS Says Stop Saying Adblock, BSD Style, Closed and More - YouTube [22:27] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [22:28] techrights-news "Since #Audacity was purchased by MuseGroup, they have been making some very questionable decisions with their software. The most serious things have been the introduction of data collection (including IP addresses) and the fact that they now prohibit children from using their software." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaX9LuOWRHE [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BEWARE! Audacity Is Now Spyware. Time To Fork? - YouTube [22:28] XRevan86 They also explicitly mentioned Russia [22:29] *immibis (~immibis@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [22:29] *immibis (~immibis@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [22:31] techrights-news This is NOT a review, this is #ProprietarySoftware SPAM in "review" clothing https://www.maketecheasier.com/emsisoft-anti-malware-review/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Emsisoft Anti-Malware Review: Feature-Rich & Affordable - Make Tech Easier [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights [22:32] techrights-news #EPO is a great place to work; provided youre in charge of it (connections required; qualifications dont apply) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/alicante-patent-office/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Nepotism | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/alicante-patent-office/ [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Holiday for Antnio, Glass and Metal Cages for the Rest of Us | Techrights [22:33] techrights-news Do not be seduced by the #OpenSource crowd; its looking to accomplish not necessarily things that truly matter to society and actually promote justice http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/liberation-matters/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/liberation-matters/ [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Liberation Sentry, Not Open Source (Openwashing) | Techrights [22:35] schestowitz This new video discusses the truly absurd situation that we have in civilised #Europe , where the largest #patent office and Europes second-largest organisation overall isnt just abundantly corrupt http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/complicity-of-epo-administrative-council/ #Techrights #EPO #patents [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Administrative Council Has Just Shown Evidence of Its Complicity (Again) | Techrights [22:35] techrights-news #RMS talk in #Bozeman http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/rms-bozeman/ #freesw #fsf #gnu [22:36] Phanes/fn fyi: https://phanes.silogroup.org/the-gods-can-bleed/ [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phanes.silogroup.org | The Gods Can Bleed Phanes' Canon [22:36] schestowitz XRevan86: https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [22:37] schestowitz still decreasing a bit, but not by much [22:37] schestowitz psydruid: IBM 'manages' this petition now [22:37] schestowitz in a Microsoft monopoly [22:37] schestowitz I mean Phanes [22:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: I've seen it be on 25K for like a week, then I wake up, check and it's suddenly 23K [22:38] XRevan86 now it's holding at 22K-23K [22:38] Phanes/fn schestowitz, ibm manages what petition now [22:38] schestowitz given that we're there, I hope they survive and stay around [22:38] schestowitz https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io [22:38] schestowitz all the recent commits (for months) only handled by IBM employee [22:38] schestowitz which is bad optics/scopes for IBM [22:39] schestowitz they make themselves even more enemies [22:39] schestowitz and people in the freesw community lost tolerance for them [22:39] schestowitz they also try to seize copyrights not [22:39] schestowitz *now [22:39] Phanes/fn i dont see where IBM ties in yet [22:39] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [22:39] schestowitz they have many people inside gnu [22:39] Phanes/fn elana hashman is RH and Debian, is that what you mean? [22:39] schestowitz but they want more control [22:39] XRevan86 schestowitz: Given how many people I know are blocked there, I am just enjoying the flames. [22:40] schestowitz IBM will die soon, maybe years from now [22:40] schestowitz XRevan86: like that dog on a stool, surrounded by fire [22:40] schestowitz the salary is IBM only [22:40] XRevan86 And I'm at a safe distance. [22:40] schestowitz Debian pays no salary [22:40] schestowitz XRevan86: the dog thought so too [22:41] schestowitz you still maintain a bridge to there [22:41] schestowitz the bridge is flammable [22:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: It only burns my time though. [22:41] techrights-news "Here is a list of games I'd suggest getting on the Steam sale, that are fully playable on Linux." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pimB6awO1RQ [22:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Sale Recommendations | Linux Gaming - YouTube [22:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: I won't need to reconfigure my client even if something happens to that. [22:42] XRevan86 it burns my time when freenode causes problems that is [22:43] XRevan86 It got better once I dropped the other two bridges I maintained as now I have just one connection. [22:43] techrights-news Do not equate #freespeech with "Be[ing] a Schmuck" (this is not what they do) https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/Che-Guevara-Posters-and-the-Freedom-to-Be-a-Schmuck-e13vn36 [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anchor.fm | Che Guevara Posters and the Freedom to Be a Schmuck by TIC TEK TOE A podcast on Anchor [22:43] Phanes/fn is GCC future-safe or should I be looking at CLANG? [22:44] Phanes/fn (building a distro) [22:44] Phanes/fn im seeing alot of indicators of infiltration in the gcc mailing lists [22:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: The way I see it, I cannot tell what's going to happen to freenode, its future is a very big unknown. [22:45] XRevan86 the whole network is built on a conflict and a broken legacy of a different network, and with irresponsible management like rasengan it's a pretty shaky foundation [22:48] XRevan86 maybe next week rasengan will get bored and suddenly decide that it's time for some cleansing [22:48] XRevan86 or maybe not, no one knows [22:49] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 Compressing #Debian Packages With #Zstd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153065#comment-30149 [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Blint Rczey on zstd, Petter Reinholdtsen on Book, Michael Prokop on #newinbullseye | Tux Machines [22:49] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: Steam, Audacity, and RMS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153068 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Steam, Audacity, and RMS | Tux Machines [22:50] schestowitz Phanes: clang is even less freedom-respecting [22:50] schestowitz if you consider the corporations behind it and the licence [22:51] Phanes/fn if the compilers go out the entire open source world goes out [22:51] schestowitz you can always fork, but those are massive projects [22:51] schestowitz iirc, 50,000,000+ LOCs [22:51] Phanes/fn yeah, thats well beyond my capability [22:52] schestowitz 2012: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1OTg [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC Compiler Is Up To 7.3 Million Lines Of Code - Phoronix [22:52] schestowitz ok, I went overboard a bit [22:52] Phanes/fn the project is just over my head [22:52] Phanes/fn i wouldn't be able to manage it [22:52] schestowitz 2015: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg3OTQ [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC Soars Past 14.5 Million Lines Of Code & I'm Real Excited For GCC 5 - Phoronix [22:52] schestowitz so maybe by now 25 million [22:53] schestowitz Microsoft Tim: https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/ [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux in 2020: 27.8 million lines of code in the kernel, 1.3 million in systemd The Register [22:53] schestowitz So Linux is still a bit bigger [22:53] schestowitz but GNU is more than GCC [22:53] schestowitz lots of gcc will be h/w-specific 'hacks' [22:54] schestowitz inc. for hardware almost nobody uses anymore [22:54] schestowitz Herculean task to fork that [22:54] schestowitz RMS wrote bits of it [22:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/ [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | Techrights [22:55] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:55] Phanes/fn part of being a competent engineer and architect is knowing the limits of your competence [22:56] Phanes/fn you can stretch them [22:56] Phanes/fn you can bend them [22:56] Phanes/fn but you have to respect them or you'll spin out [22:56] schestowitz you need to work within large groups [22:56] schestowitz and federate [22:56] schestowitz I think some people lack that skill [22:56] schestowitz megalomania and ego get in the way [22:56] Phanes/fn i can buy that [22:57] Phanes/fn ive always been on my own so i dont know if im good at that or not [22:57] schestowitz I think media perpetuates that sentiment to keep us divided and collectively worthless [22:57] schestowitz we're weaker when we don't focus on the biggest threats [22:59] techrights-news RMS: "One aspect of the Tories' proposed broad repression law would be to make nomadic life almost impossible, as they would be effectively forbidden to stop almost anywhere." #uk #rms https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_July_2021_(Making_nomad_life_impossible) [22:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman ● Jul 05 [23:01] techrights-news #Wordpress dot com says that I now have over a thousand "Followers" but I hardly know what that means and what proportion are: 1) real people and 2) actually follow. A lot of #socialcontrolmedia turns into farms of phantoms and noise. [23:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.60 swarm size (avg): 304.81 [23:04] techrights-news For a #socialcontrolmedia site #twitter is one of the very worst because it is infested/dominated by political #astroturfing as well as corporate trolling/PR/perception management, never mind the #misinformation and the malicious/nasty/rude elements. Size is inversely proportional to quality. [23:05] techrights-news #twitter is good use of time if you want to RESEARCH misinformation and shitposting [23:06] techrights-news #twitter now receives money from #gatesfoundation to interject their tweets (or #billgates propaganda) into my timeline. That helps explain why Twitter banned me this year, and @zoobab as well http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights [23:07] techrights-news #twitter is now in the business of #reputationLaundering for criminals. Ethics not a consideration at all. #billgates #gatesfoundation [23:08] techrights-news I could take a screenshot (but would rather not) to show #twitter now takes money from #billgates and #gatesfoundation to brainwash people. No wonder they ban Gates critics! http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [23:09] techrights-news #twitter : we take money to BAN your CRITICS. Click here to learn more... [23:10] techrights-news Would #twitter take money from Epstein for #reputationLaundering h Of course it would. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [23:11] techrights-news While the Poor Get Sick, #BillGates Just Gets Richer https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ #gatesfoundation profits while #twitter censors its critics (and Twitter gets paid for it) l http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [23:16] techrights-news 26 mins ago: "But in real #ibm has no money for research, all they do is squeeze their developers/sellers for pay, have no product managers for anything." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bGf6TVS#replies [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Quit financial engineering and go back to your roots, IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:17] techrights-news "The second factor is that #IBM is IBM. If a bank decides to migrate a massive on-prem farm into the cloud, it can choose between vendors." https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/ibm_opinion_column/ [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Big Blue's big email blues signal terminal decline unless it learns to migrate itself The Register [23:19] techrights-news "I met John Ackers. He may have not been the best CEO, but he was not arrogant like [the #IBM CEO]AK like the fool we have now." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bFaNvmD#replies see http://techrights.org/2020/10/24/militarised-elephants/ [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | AK the next John Aker? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Militarised Elephant in the Room Still Commands a Lot of Free Software Development | Techrights [23:20] techrights-news #microsoft turning #nokia into #patentTroll of sorts http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/guest-post-how-much-is-that-sep-in.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] How much is that SEP in the window? 5 Themes from the IPKat/LSE Nokia v Daimler seminar - The IPKat [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - Techrights [23:20] techrights-news Voice of the #patent extremists https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sjkwq653llgy/scotus-assignor-estoppel-edict-will-inflict-administrative-pain #patents #scotus #lobbying [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | SCOTUS assignor estoppel edict will inflict administrative pain | Managing Intellectual Property [23:21] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:21] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:22] techrights-news Imagine a system so insane that it treats life and nature as "inventions" and then gives some people #monopolies on both https://www.griffithhack.com/ideas/insights/guidance-on-patenting-diagnostics-in-australia-ariosa-diagnostics-v-sequenom/ #dna #australia #patents [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.griffithhack.com | Guidance on patenting diagnostics in Australia: Ariosa Diagnostics v Sequenom - Griffith Hack [23:23] techrights-news Imagine #patent #litigation zealots so greedy that they are cheering for #monopolies -- in the #patent sense -- on life itself https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/07/cvc-substantive-preliminary-motion-no-2-to-deny-priority-benefit.html [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CVC Substantive Preliminary Motion No. 2 to Deny Priority Benefit [23:25] techrights-news Well, "Intellectual Property" itself is a myth. It's also a misnomer and deliberately misused propaganda term of litigation fanatics/profiteers (fanatic about money, not science) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1084544/4-intellectual-property-myths-about-designs [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | 4 Intellectual Property Myths About Designs - Intellectual Property - UK [23:28] techrights-news Forking is a last resort in #freesw and in the case of #audacity I think there's still room for negotiation (fuck you, not fork you... if enough of us threaten to fork and remove malicious antifeatures, they may change course for purely financial reasons) http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/audacity-and-muse-group/ [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Takeover by Muse Group is No Cause for Celebration | Techrights [23:53] techrights-news [Meme] #IBM is NOT a Friend of Free Software http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/ibm-led-mob/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/05/ibm-led-mob/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IBM is NOT a Friend of Free Software | Techrights [23:54] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-050721.txt

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