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[03:27] schestowitz-TR config'd rianne's barrier, tuxmachines-new (access to site, ssh keys), some other desktop stuff on a dedicated machine
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[04:29] schestowitz-TR config'd rianne's barrier, tuxmachines-new (access to site, ssh keys), some other desktop stuff on a dedicated machine
[04:29] schestowitz-TR I've just done another quick post to remind people who Microsoft obstructs Linux booting
[04:29] schestowitz-TR it needs to be repeated ad infinitum
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[05:08] schestowitz-TR Over 1,000 Brits Die Each Week With COVID-19 (Far Worse Than Prior Summers), BBC Pretends COVID-19 Ceased to Exist https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/30/over-1000-brits-die-each-week-with-covid-19-far-worse-than-prior-summers-bbc-pretends-covid-19-ceased-to-exist/
[05:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Over 1,000 Brits Die Each Week With COVID-19 (Far Worse Than Prior Summers), BBC Pretends COVID-19 Ceased to Exist
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[07:54] schestowitz-TR thr reboot ought to have fixed the disk issues, details in irc logs circa 7am today (you probablt want
[07:54] schestowitz-TR to read that)
[07:54] schestowitz-TR I've decided to wait for you before we make a procedural approach to reconstructing the tmux session
[07:54] schestowitz-TR on the new VMs, likely tuxmachines
[07:54] schestowitz-TR under uder "tuxmachines" I've started a tmux session which for now has only one pane, for TR
[07:54] schestowitz-TR I think we can consoliate nmon, apachetop, firewall, ddos protection etc. in that one session
[07:54] schestowitz-TR and make it persistent across reboots by using some settings file
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[08:23] Techrights-sec2 acck
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 gm
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 the tmux session had only the two scripts
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 though I guess the same session could have apachetop
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 what dimensions should it be? There might be a way to fix those dimensions
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 in the session so that when a wrong sized window is attached it doesn't resize
[08:23] Techrights-sec2 but instead waits without changing.
[08:24] schestowitz-TR gm
[08:24] schestowitz-TR TIL tmux-256color is a thing
[08:24] schestowitz-TR and some versions of tmux do not support it
[08:24] schestowitz-TR in TR under /root
[08:24] schestowitz-TR we have two shell scripts
[08:25] schestowitz-TR one for apachetop
[08:25] schestowitz-TR one monitor-techrights
[08:25] schestowitz-TR the latter creates two panes, with one just running standard top
[08:27] Techrights-sec2 one tracks http the other sshd on new TM
[08:28] schestowitz-TR inventory: nigel's monitor (nmon,), tuxmachines old and new http, TR http, firewall, ddos protection if turned on
[08:34] Techrights-sec2 tmux-3.3a-r0
[08:39] schestowitz-TR yeah
[08:39] schestowitz-TR consolidating everything in one session that survives reboots sans remote ssh connections (we can do key-based ssh)
[08:39] schestowitz-TR would be ideal
[08:39] schestowitz-TR I wish to start adding images, what would you suggest as base dir? we'll reuse these images
[08:39] schestowitz-TR I don't want to add imagemagick but I can quickly, e.g. from my machine toss small images from
[08:39] schestowitz-TR my machine to news.tuxmachines.org, then 'hotlink' from tuxmachines.org to them
[08:39] schestowitz-TR and link locally in news.tuxmachines.org
[08:39] schestowitz-TR a lot of images are reusable, e.g. good mug of torvalds for kernel announcments
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 Are they site images? Then /Images is where the could go
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 If they are for posts, then we should make a subdirectory ther
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 It'd be best to keep the content separate from the "infrastructure", it makes
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 things easier to manage.
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 Yes /Features can work
[08:42] Techrights-sec2 Double check that permissions are OK
[08:42] schestowitz-TR I don't think subdirs would be needed as many images will be reused and adding more (long) path levels would slow down the linking process
[08:42] schestowitz-TR maybe /Features/imagename.jpg
[08:42] schestowitz-TR OK
[08:42] schestowitz-TR this means tuxmachines.org (old) will not hotlink in new nodes anymore
[08:43] schestowitz-TR but use the sister subdomain
[08:48] Techrights-sec2 "hotlinking" generally refers to linking to objects on another domain / server
[08:52] Techrights-sec2 img.samdomain.suffix
[08:52] Techrights-sec2 cdn.xxxxxx.xxxxxx
[08:52] Techrights-sec2 bbl in some mins
[08:52] Techrights-sec2 testing the workflow
[08:52] Techrights-sec2 can you remind me the css button block type/syntax?
[08:53] schestowitz-TR img.samdomain.suffix
[08:53] schestowitz-TR cdn.xxxxxx.xxxxxx
[08:53] schestowitz-TR bbl in some mins
[08:53] schestowitz-TR testing the workflow
[08:53] schestowitz-TR can you remind me the css button block type/syntax?
[08:53] Techrights-sec2 iirc
[08:53] Techrights-sec2 ...
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[09:03] schestowitz-TR how does it check for hotlinking? it rejects https://news....
[09:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: news; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://news )
[09:03] Techrights-sec2 it checks for absolute links, it can probably be tuned to skip the local
[09:03] Techrights-sec2 domain (with a bit of work though)
[09:03] Techrights-sec2 relative links would work best and be portable; they are necessary once
[09:03] Techrights-sec2 news.tuxmachines.org becomes tuxmachines.org and the former retired or repurposed
[09:11] schestowitz-TR i just wanted a domain dpscified that would work across old and new
[09:14] Techrights-sec2 absolute paths will break in the near future and possibly again in the more
[09:14] Techrights-sec2 distant future
[09:15] schestowitz-TR OK, see latest node
[09:15] schestowitz-TR uses 30% so it scales as the browser is resized
[09:20] schestowitz-TR I seem to recall the button looking different the first time you showed it to me
[09:20] schestowitz-TR so I assume you have tweaked it further, esp. padding and colours?
[09:21] Techrights-sec2 checking
[09:21] Techrights-sec2 yes, it looked different, the gradient is missing from this one though it
[09:21] Techrights-sec2 is in the CSS. There may be a conflicting rule in place.
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[09:29] schestowitz-TR it looked better when I saw it the first time around, I'll make more test pages of this kind now
[09:29] schestowitz-TR if Ic an find any news
[09:29] Techrights-sec2
[09:29] Techrights-sec2 Found the conflict, ...
[09:29] Techrights-sec2 kludge in place
[09:30] schestowitz-TR ah, nice, much better now
[09:30] schestowitz-TR I'll do a test page shortly, a cluster re raspi
[09:30] schestowitz-TR different template type
[09:36] schestowitz-TR I retrofit this into "old" site atm
[09:36] schestowitz-TR need to bypass caches to test
[09:36] schestowitz-TR the css is heavily cached and condensed
[09:36] schestowitz-TR ---------------------------------------------------
[09:46] schestowitz-TR added a cluster-type node with locally-hosted image
[09:46] schestowitz-TR now catching up with tmux here, sorry, was focusing on one thing at a time
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 ok slightly less kludgy
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 The image floats over too far though. Checking...
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 the image has many problems, one is that it is a full image and then "scaled"
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 in the browser, instead of a thumbnail. The markup is missing a width and
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 height as well. Lacking those, the rendinging goes much more slowly.
[09:47] Techrights-sec2 I wonder what, short of Imagemagick, can be used to measuer the width and height?
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[10:04] schestowitz-TR just showed rianne how images are done and 00-README
[10:04] schestowitz-TR but she iw working today and tomorrow
[10:04] schestowitz-TR not yet ready to post in 2 places
[10:04] schestowitz-TR oh, wow
[10:04] schestowitz-TR counterpunch
[10:04] schestowitz-TR 2 stories again on sat.
[10:04] schestowitz-TR they used to do like 51 aka "weekend edition"
[10:04] schestowitz-TR so they're cutting
[10:04] schestowitz-TR talk about bucking the trend
[10:04] schestowitz-TR scheer post is doing ok
[10:04] schestowitz-TR it's t he new truthdig
[10:04] Techrights-sec2 the new site would render the image much better without the inline styles
[10:04] Techrights-sec2 ack
[10:04] Techrights-sec2 ok
[10:04] Techrights-sec2 ack
[10:06] schestowitz-TR the inline stile assumed bland white BG
[10:06] schestowitz-TR which is now ahat we have in new
[10:06] schestowitz-TR we'll tweak over time..
[10:06] schestowitz-TR I don't want to use "too" advanced CSS
[10:06] schestowitz-TR as many browsers do not support that
[10:06] schestowitz-TR so you treat some people as "second class"
[10:06] schestowitz-TR apropos, with locally hosted images we can reuse them in gemini
[10:06] schestowitz-TR e.g. by softlinking them in the gemini dirs
[10:11] schestowitz-TR "Running FreshRSS has been a great experience. So much so that I almost forgot that I had Feedly account, despite using it for more than a decade." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-30-i-just-left-feedly.gmi
[10:11] schestowitz-TR RSS is garlic to the GAFAM vampire
[10:21] Techrights-sec2 ack
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[10:40] schestowitz-TR sooo.... the tmux on alpine has colour in tmux itself, but programs like nmon and
[10:40] schestowitz-TR apachetop do not seem to work
[10:40] schestowitz-TR they want tmux-256color
[10:40] schestowitz-TR I alreayd tried workaround
[10:40] schestowitz-TR wait, this is strange, even htop and top won't run
[10:40] schestowitz-TR if I hope to another machines from TM-new over ssh
[10:42] Techrights-sec2 If you're doing it that way, you should run tmux on your local computer and
[10:42] Techrights-sec2 then in each of the various panels SSH into the remote systems.
[10:42] Techrights-sec2 That ought to work a bit more reliably
[10:43] schestowitz-TR 1) many are running locally on the server
[10:43] schestowitz-TR 2) I shsare them with you sometimes
[10:43] schestowitz-TR 3) lcoally I have lots of screenspace, no need for multiplexer
[10:43] Techrights-sec2 ok
[10:52] Techrights-sec2 apachetop is not available in Alpine
[10:53] schestowitz-TR that's OK, I originally installed it from a third party source to better understand patterns and block accordingly
[10:53] schestowitz-TR in a hurry
[10:58] Techrights-sec2 something at ipv4 address 81.154.171.101 is hammering the feed every few seconds
[10:58] Techrights-sec2 should we block it ;)
[10:59] schestowitz-TR no
[10:59] schestowitz-TR this is a checker
[10:59] schestowitz-TR I will slow it down
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[11:02] Techrights-sec2 what is it checking for? there is a much better way.
[11:02] Techrights-sec2 it has filled the logs, displacing everything else
[11:03] schestowitz-TR I started running it some days ago to detect new pages being added and chain it to the "old" style IRC stuff
[11:03] schestowitz-TR but forgot to pace it down while testing
[11:03] schestowitz-TR hence grep -v feed
[11:07] Techrights-sec2 -v won't include records that have been displaced
[11:07] Techrights-sec2 we can add a hook to the tm-add-entry-sql.pl or the wrapper script so that
[11:07] Techrights-sec2 you can get pinged somehow,
[11:07] Techrights-sec2 MQTT might be of use
[11:07] Techrights-sec2 ^MQTT over TLS
[11:08] schestowitz-TR I've longer wanted to automate these, but that can go horribly wrong after downtime and then flood the channel
[11:08] Techrights-sec2 right now the log files consist almost only of the feed queries and we might
[11:08] Techrights-sec2 as well turn off logging completely to save space
[11:08] Techrights-sec2 similar for Git vs sshd
[11:10] schestowitz-TR that typically runs once in 200 seconds, for the old site
[11:10] schestowitz-TR some daysago when testing I removed a zero
[11:10] schestowitz-TR that was excessive
[11:11] Techrights-sec2 yes, and the log rotation is quite short
[11:11] Techrights-sec2 Can you use the hook script mentioned the other day?
[11:12] schestowitz-TR git is checked every 10 mins
[11:12] schestowitz-TR it's about 140 times a day and usually just gets idnetical checksum
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[11:28] schestowitz-TR (i totally agree with you, btw, there's lots of stuff long overdue for improvement,
[11:28] schestowitz-TR I'm still undecided on the tmux monitoring as the problem domain changed)
[11:28] schestowitz-TR a) tea
[11:28] schestowitz-TR v0 did not sleep engough
[11:28] schestowitz-TR c) hence slow, soemtimes staring... mindlessly
[11:29] schestowitz-TR d) not pressured in terms of time, everything fits this weekend
[11:29] schestowitz-TR e) i work monday, once, then off till next weekend
[11:29] schestowitz-TR f) trying to think openly while making tea etc
[11:29] schestowitz-TR g) WHAT we need to monitor and HOW
[11:29] schestowitz-TR h) lots of attention spam wasted seeing things I did not need to see, force of habit
[11:29] schestowitz-TR at the moment two panes in tmux on tm-ne are shared across two PCs here, one is more visible
[11:29] schestowitz-TR but I don't know what REALLY needs monitoring, apache issues were ages ago
[11:29] schestowitz-TR I monitor the DB of tm-old more closely with system bell since the incident
[11:29] schestowitz-TR db issues not happpening for over 2 weeks already, i might be wasting my time watching it
[11:29] schestowitz-TR will need to check if after this reboot dmesg still shows any xfs errors
[11:29] schestowitz-TR just checked and no such error at all since this morning's reboot
[11:29] schestowitz-TR scsi/qemu issue, details in irc logs circa 7am today
[11:29] schestowitz-TR (still thinking, going bacck to kitchen)
[11:29] schestowitz-TR kitchen thought: should we make a tool that takes image url, downloads it, maybe processes it,
[11:29] schestowitz-TR then returns its relative url in "/Features"?
[11:29] schestowitz-TR just checked, both curl and wget are installed
[11:29] schestowitz-TR that an yield $URL" width=$W height="$H" ..
[11:29] schestowitz-TR not even checking the original
[11:29] schestowitz-TR if it it being resized the parameters fill those blanks
[11:29] schestowitz-TR so then copy paste into the hypetext
[11:29] schestowitz-TR I'm slow to type, not tired but slow, odd sleep patterns
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[11:33] Techrights-sec2 ack
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 ok
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 ack
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 yes that kind of tool would help, I think
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 unfortunately ImageMagick is likely needed for that, but it is usable in
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 as shell script
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 Or maybe Perl, again
[11:33] Techrights-sec2 yes
[11:36] schestowitz-TR I think we can CAN apachtop for now, unless we get some surges and attacks again, then it can come in handy
[11:36] schestowitz-TR running it 24/7 gives us nothing
[11:36] schestowitz-TR I detect downtimes in better ways, if I'm not AFK
[11:36] schestowitz-TR nmon was good when we didn't have mitigations for TM
[11:36] schestowitz-TR over the past week it has not given any essential alrt
[11:36] schestowitz-TR so sod Nigfelk's Monitor too
[11:36] schestowitz-TR I got accustomed to thinks that just made noise, like "SEO" or "ego surfing"
[11:36] schestowitz-TR or "checking stats"... waste of time, all of them... for a ffirmation
[11:36] schestowitz-TR If I get alerted that a site is slow I can fire up those tools and investigate
[11:36] schestowitz-TR php has funcions for resizing images, but like many others those are (IIRC) wrappers for imagemagick
[11:36] schestowitz-TR or another library
[11:36] schestowitz-TR wordpress, drupal, mediawiki uses these...
[11:36] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure there is some CPAN module which refers to GD whatever that is
[11:36] schestowitz-TR does perl have something native? webp not essential, png, jpg, maybe gif are common
[11:36] schestowitz-TR no bmp, tiff etc.
[11:36] schestowitz-TR GD is the common alternative
[11:38] schestowitz-TR btw, f* howtoforge, they've blocked me consistently with clownflare for like 4 months already
[11:38] schestowitz-TR when lxer and linuxotday link there I cannot even enter
[11:38] schestowitz-TR this is the www they tell us is so accessible even blind people can use it
[11:38] schestowitz-TR clearly falko isn't running the site
[11:38] schestowitz-TR it's run by a total moron
[11:38] schestowitz-TR that site did exceptionally well in the digg.com
[11:38] schestowitz-TR esp. it's "perfect desktop" series
[11:39] Techrights-sec2 ok I'll look in to that, it will requite incron to watch the upload directory
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[11:44] schestowitz-TR iirc, atm the Features dir contains 2 objects
[11:44] schestowitz-TR they're not rescaled
[11:44] schestowitz-TR not statically anyway
[11:44] schestowitz-TR "old" tuxmachines links to that pair, too
[11:44] schestowitz-TR the inline css should not be inline, it can be passed to the css primary file and a class be used instead
[11:44] schestowitz-TR it's an old quick 'hack' for rianne and I
[11:44] schestowitz-TR with a proper class we can manage it all from one file as we see fit and as firefox reached sub-1% market share
[11:44] schestowitz-TR the www is in for a tough time, just like wall street, where standard and poors (s&p) is not hundereds of companies, it's
[11:44] schestowitz-TR primarily few like GAFAM and thus a massive bubble
[11:45] schestowitz-TR the www is imploding, sites shut down due to a lack of interest from readers and no incentive to write for them
[11:45] schestowitz-TR (or no salry for writers)... a vicious cycle
[11:45] schestowitz-TR so www will become more webspam and we need to massage tuxmachines into something that can adapt to that
[11:45] schestowitz-TR to me, phoronix is a marketing site that occasionally has a useful url in 'articles'
[11:49] Techrights-sec2 :(
[11:49] Techrights-sec2 inline overrides the others
[11:52] schestowitz-TR the old site is not a mess, but it was never elegant either
[11:52] schestowitz-TR not even when it was handed over to us back in 2013
[11:52] schestowitz-TR a lot of the enhancements were dirty hacks around drupal's limitations
[11:52] schestowitz-TR it's a miracle it stayed in OK shape so long thereafter
[11:52] schestowitz-TR with little over 170,000 pages now, not counting Gallery2
[11:52] schestowitz-TR not sure if you noticed, old tuxmachines now scales images with % for new nodes and does the rendering of "Read more" as CSS
[11:52] schestowitz-TR I had to unchain css from the combinedd, obfuscated since file
[11:52] schestowitz-TR *css file
[11:52] schestowitz-TR (mind working slowly)
[11:52] Techrights-sec2 ack
[11:58] schestowitz-TR I'll take a break too
[11:58] schestowitz-TR the moment we divert regulars to the new site the old site's traffic will collapse, as much of the remainign requests will be archives, searches, bots
[11:58] schestowitz-TR not new updates
[11:58] schestowitz-TR same as when leaving twitter
[11:58] schestowitz-TR old stuff does not age well
[11:58] schestowitz-TR come to think of it, when alpha goes beta... production
[11:58] schestowitz-TR I should let the old one run with the "abd" DB for a few weeks before reverting back and redirecting the pages "missing"
[11:58] schestowitz-TR then, tuxmachines.org front page should be something like in techrights.org front page
[11:58] schestowitz-TR with many places one can go, inc. gemini
[11:58] schestowitz-TR the rss feeds will obv. become a redirect
[11:58] schestowitz-TR maybe we'll add a new section with original articles and advocacy of gnu/linux
[11:58] schestowitz-TR news.tuxmachines.org will be one of several portions
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[12:27] schestowitz-TR Travel Fatigue and US hospitality gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1088
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[14:20] Techrights-sec2 back
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 I think it makes more sense to have the images in Images and the site's own
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 images can be in some other directory
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 instead
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 The resizing took only a few minutes to figure out, it uses Image::Scale
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 but working out the details for the work flow are taking a bit. I'm not sure
[14:20] Techrights-sec2 if a reboot is needed for inotify to finish installing
[14:21] schestowitz-TR it makes practical sense to keep these isiolated so backups can skip the directory as it grows larger
[14:21] schestowitz-TR (maybe at x10 times higher the rest of the site)
[14:25] Techrights-sec2 yes that is part of the reason
[14:26] Techrights-sec2 ok now to figure out inotify in Alpine
[14:27] schestowitz-TR I thought it waas file system (kernel) feature merely inherited by the OS
[14:27] Techrights-sec2 yes, thus I wonder if a reboot is required
[14:27] Techrights-sec2 there is also some configuration required too, but I think I have that set
[14:27] Techrights-sec2 (perhaps)
[14:53] schestowitz-TR Fast-forward
[14:53] schestowitz-TR bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl | 121 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[14:54] schestowitz-TR 1 file changed, 121 insertions(+)
[14:54] schestowitz-TR create mode 100755 bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl
[14:54] schestowitz-TR 2022-07-30 14:35 | Links: 2022-07-30.txt
[14:54] schestowitz-TR Git: 2022-07-30 09:20 | Git-TM: 2022-07-30 14:35 | Links: 2022-07-30.txt
[14:54] schestowitz-TR :)
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[15:05] Techrights-sec2 np
[15:05] Techrights-sec2 incrond started, but not sure if it is enabled after a reboot
[15:05] Techrights-sec2 but probably it is starting
[15:06] schestowitz-TR sounds like alpine would be very challenging as a desktop :-)
[15:06] schestowitz-TR then again, that's not its purpose and target users
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 I like it's leanness but taking shortcuts on manual pages is not saving much
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 of any space and kind of goes against the nature of things but its mostly
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 quite good otherwise
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 it's now set up such that image files which are uploaded to /var/www/tuxmachines.org/uploads/ get processed and put in /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/Images/
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 along with a thumbnail and a matching text file containing the corresponding
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 markup
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 Perhaps there should be a check to only try to proces files named *.jpeg, *.jpg,
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 *.png, and *.gif but for now it tries any which show up in the directory
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 and drops out if the file is not a proper image; if it is an image then it is
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 processed and moved
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 The old images still have to be removed from Images, what should the new
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 directory for the site's images be called, I'm kind of at a loss for a moment
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 maybe just "I" or "i" or maybe the post images should be in "i" since there
[15:18] Techrights-sec2 is an "n"
[15:20] schestowitz-TR i seems good
[15:20] schestowitz-TR probably lowercase
[15:20] schestowitz-TR if I understand correctly,
[15:20] schestowitz-TR I wget IMAGE_URL
[15:20] schestowitz-TR then wait a bit
[15:20] schestowitz-TR thn open a text file with the html in it to the resize image
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 ok
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 yes, just a sec
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 wget --directory-prefix /var/www/tuxmachines.org/uploads/ ...
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 then after a few seconds look in /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/i/
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 wget --directory-prefix /var/www/tuxmachines.org/uploads/ ...
[15:21] Techrights-sec2 todo: add provision for recogizing SVGs but skipping the scaling
[15:22] schestowitz-TR We very seldom use such files
[15:22] schestowitz-TR as they are barely used (they should be used more but sites transform them to raster space)
[15:22] schestowitz-TR maybe due to "old" browsers
[15:28] schestowitz-TR we add about 15k pages per year, maybe 7k of them have an image, so we can estimate sizes
[15:28] schestowitz-TR I still need to figure out the best way to handle page updates
[15:28] schestowitz-TR in drupal we used the comments section for updates
[15:29] Techrights-sec2 hmm Image::Scale cannot recognize SVG :(
[15:29] Techrights-sec2 what kind of page updates? The wrapper script updates the HTML automatically
[15:30] schestowitz-TR like, system76 has some product and later 10 more sites write about it
[15:30] schestowitz-TR and we add those too to the page
[15:32] Techrights-sec2 there is a wrapper script for updating posts, update-and-refresh-from-db.sh
[15:32] Techrights-sec2 Of course the new information would have to be part of the body
[15:32] Techrights-sec2 the date modified gets updated automatically and that is what is one of the
[15:32] Techrights-sec2 criteria for inclusion in the feeds
[15:32] Techrights-sec2 Yes the title could also be changed
[15:33] schestowitz-TR yes, I'm thinking of the format
[15:33] schestowitz-TR and whether to also change the date to bump it back up to the front page
[15:33] schestowitz-TR and alter headline with "UPDATE" ststus
[15:33] schestowitz-TR I need to practice that some more, as does rianne
[15:33] schestowitz-TR I think latest on top, not bottom, for the new updates
[15:35] Techrights-sec2 We do not track the hour/minute/second of the update. Just the date.
[15:35] Techrights-sec2 So the day's batch is a day's batch. But if it is essential to have a strict
[15:35] Techrights-sec2 chronological sequence then a timestamp can be added to the keys table and
[15:35] Techrights-sec2 included in the sort
[15:35] Techrights-sec2 ^sorting
[15:38] schestowitz-TR it's fine as it is
[15:38] schestowitz-TR years ago a reader from germany said it was hard to follow the site as he was missing some older stories, which moved to page 2
[15:38] schestowitz-TR if the front page is almost a day's lump
[15:38] schestowitz-TR plus summaries/desc
[15:38] schestowitz-TR than it'll make skimming easier
[15:38] schestowitz-TR inc. newly updated (on the day) news
[15:38] schestowitz-TR rss readers treat duplicates differently
[15:38] schestowitz-TR and dor xml/rss
[15:38] schestowitz-TR some show items with updated titles again
[15:38] schestowitz-TR some do not unless the url change
[15:38] schestowitz-TR depending on criterion/a for duplicate/new item
[15:38] Techrights-sec2 the batch is n days worth of posts or n posts, whichever is the larger size
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[16:08] Techrights-sec2 ok
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[17:28] schestowitz-TR first reboot after 102 days
[17:28] schestowitz-TR after full system update
[17:28] schestowitz-TR will take advantage of this to re-arrange EVERYHTUNG
[17:28] schestowitz-TR based on EXISTING workflow
[17:28] schestowitz-TR not old habits
[17:28] schestowitz-TR this takes a lot of thinking
[17:28] Techrights-sec2 it seemed the connection broke
[17:28] schestowitz-TR the temptation to run back to the familiar
[17:28] Techrights-sec2 ack
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[18:13] schestowitz-TR darn, I mostly came back to the old workflow
[18:13] schestowitz-TR it means I'm not improving it
[18:13] schestowitz-TR I am goint to abandon tmux @ TR
[18:13] schestowitz-TR it had it purpose in the past
[18:21] Techrights-sec2 ack
[18:21] schestowitz-TR updating the pi fully
[18:21] schestowitz-TR now backing it up (/home)
[18:21] schestowitz-TR to make best use of this wash-off
[18:22] schestowitz-TR WordPress to Gemini gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-07-30-Wordpress-to-Gemini.gmi
[18:23] Techrights-sec2 yes reboots and such are an opportunity to ensure that everything is up to date
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[18:43] schestowitz-TR ok, almost happy with all the changes
[18:43] schestowitz-TR will go show rianne how to post
[18:43] schestowitz-TR ok, rianne has just posted her first page
[18:44] Techrights-sec2 ack
[18:44] Techrights-sec2 excellent, was the workflow and process acceptable?
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[19:48] schestowitz-TR is the image resizer operational already?
[19:48] schestowitz-TR can I try it?
[19:48] schestowitz-TR ah, ok
[19:49] Techrights-sec2 not sure, it's untested
[19:49] Techrights-sec2 sure try it just look out for mistakes and oversights, such as the
[19:49] Techrights-sec2 inability to handle SVG
[19:49] Techrights-sec2 THough SVG is XML so it may just be a matter of using an XML parser to
[19:49] Techrights-sec2 pull out two attributes from the right element(s)
[19:54] schestowitz tuxmachines-new:/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/i$ ls -la ../../uploads/
[19:54] schestowitz total 12
[19:54] schestowitz drwxr-sr-x 2 tuxmachines webmasters 37 Jul 30 18:52 .
[19:54] schestowitz drwxrwsr-x 8 tuxmachines webmasters 101 Jul 30 11:44 ..
[19:54] schestowitz -rw-r--r-- 1 tuxmachines webmasters 8825 Jul 30 18:52 terminal-linux-logo.png
[19:54] schestowitz-TR ok, so I added a png file to uploads
[19:54] schestowitz-TR now I check under i/
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 it is intended to function when a file lands in /uploads the file gets moved
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 to /i along with a thumbnail and a text file containing the markup. The text
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 file probably ought to be deleted once the markup is collected
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 I see the problem, I missed adding the module. It's not in the repository,
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 it'll have to be added manually.
[19:55] Techrights-sec2 Checking ...
[19:55] schestowitz-TR thanks
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[20:13] Techrights-sec2 it'll take quite a while there are some prereqisites which are not easy to
[20:13] Techrights-sec2 solve in Alpine
[20:13] Techrights-sec2 at least not for me
[20:14] schestowitz-TR in the meantime I'll use the Features directory
[20:14] schestowitz-TR as a sort of fallback of sorts
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[23:38] Techrights-sec2 the research won't be so quick but I figure it's solveable
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