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[05:13] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [05:13] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [05:13] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [05:13] *libertybox____ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *tokwe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *libertybox____ (~schestowitz_log@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:14] *techrightssec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *VonNaturAustreVe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *fury999i- has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *libbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *libertybox______ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *libertybox_____ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:15] *rianne (~rianne@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:15] *schestowitz-pi has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:15] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:15] *libertybox_____ (~schestowitz_log@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:15] *libertybox______ (~schestowitz_log@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:22] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [05:22] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:27] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [05:27] *jacobk (~quassel@32hz32it3ih2k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:27] *rianne__ (~rianne@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:28] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:28] *asusbox2 (~rianne@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:34] *pi is now known as techrights-sec [05:37] *logbu (~schestowitz_log@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:49] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:50] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 22 [06:34] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:36] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:39] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:43] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:45] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 22 [07:01] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 22 [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > Hi Roy, [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > This week's blog post looks at the roots of attacks on education to [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > keep people stupid and compliant around digital technology. [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/miscalculation [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > One way cybersecurity got so bad is through declining education. Many [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > people understand the risks of insecure software, but don't realise [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > popular brands like Microsoft and Google are dangerous, because [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > educators are too timid or confused to tell them. [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > Finally some are catching on... an ex-White House cyber policy [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > director now says that "Microsoft is a national security threat". [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/21/microsoft_national_security_risk/ [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > School teacher should be telling this to children, not encouraging [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] > them to use products from these companies. [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] it's own future > its own future [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/22/An_unfortunate_miscalculation_of_capital.shtml [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] Can I have your permission to reprint in techrights with attribution and link tom original? It's spot on and on-topic. [08:05] schestowitz[TR2] I saw the El Reg article last night. It did not go far enough. [08:05] *TechBN has quit (connection closed) [08:05] *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:05] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! [08:05] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! 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[08:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:13] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 22 [09:12] *iNvERSeD has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:20] *Rodney_ (~DaxSon@freenode-2ue.6ih.pu7h8v.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 22 [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > Morning Roy, [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > Yes I'm happy if you do a full reprint if in its entirety - it's a bit [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > lengthy but I have no time to edit it down right now, cheers! [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] > all good wishes, [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] Thanks for quickly granting permission. [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] Before I read the later message I had reproduced it with the following corrections: [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] it's -> its in [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] away it's own future [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] it's democratising influence [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] The West has had it's own much slower-burning purge [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] it's direction is important [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] "are relegated to faults," - full stop? [11:18] schestowitz[TR2] Or is that by intention. left as is. [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > Roy, Ive made a few small corrections since this morning. [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > Lots of apostrophe pedantry from the internet :) [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > Helen noted it would be*great* if you can end on a link to our [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > Boudica Cybersecurity, and maybe say that more "joined-up thinking" is [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > the ethos of our school. [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] > many thanks [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] Yes, I can still edit the text or add bits of HTML, I will check email again later today ;-) [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] >> Finally some are catching on... an ex-White House cyber policy [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] >> director now says that "Microsoft is a national security threat". [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > We've been here before. There are, somewhere in the older Links, [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > articles from decades past calling out m$ as a a national security [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > threat. It is essential to find those and move the counter forward [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > rather than starting at zero again. [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] > MSFT? Double-tap to be sure. [11:23] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/o/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [11:23] *TechBN has quit (connection closed) [11:23] *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:23] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! [11:23] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] Here is a recent one, but which only focuses on the monoculture not the shoddy design and piss poor implementation: [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/files/documents/cyber/IEEE%20-%20IT%20Monoculture.pdf [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] It also fails to call out the inherently insecure nature of proprietary software. [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] Still looking. This is not it: [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.networkworld.com/article/895510/software-retiring-exec-tells-microsoft-to-embrace-open-source.html [11:24] schestowitz[TR2] There was some colonel or similar, IIRC, in the late 1990s which called out m$ insecurity as a threat to national security. [11:24] *TechBN has quit (connection closed) [11:24] *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:24] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! [11:24] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.strassmann.com/pubs/computerworld/ms-security.shtml [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] "Microsoft: A U.S. Security Threat" by Paul A. Strassmann [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] originally from /Computerworld/ published November 30, 1998 [11:25] schestowitz[TR2] can't find the original atm [11:25] *TechBN has quit (connection closed) [11:25] *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:25] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! 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