●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Friday, November 13, 2020 ●● ● Nov 13 [00:58] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [00:58] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● Nov 13 [04:31] schestowitz >> If it helps, it doesn't surprise me. Look where he worked in recent years. [04:31] schestowitz > [04:31] schestowitz > It doesn't surprise me either. Though it would help if while you're [04:31] schestowitz > attacking Python (which is called for IMO) you were making the point a [04:31] schestowitz > bit more often that PyPy is not like this. [04:31] schestowitz > [04:31] schestowitz > When people think of Python they think of the language, not the [04:31] schestowitz > implementation or the foundation. The latter is the problem, the former [04:31] schestowitz > is the victim. Ideally we would preserve the language (as many former [04:31] schestowitz > target of colonialism do) and condemn the takeover and parties involved. [04:31] schestowitz > [04:31] schestowitz > Obviously I don't expect you to espouse any views you do not yourself [04:31] schestowitz > hold-- rather I think you are a bit sympathetic, while your rhetoric is [04:31] schestowitz > more one-sided about it than you are. It doesn't bother me that it's [04:31] schestowitz > passionate and waves a finger-- I think it ought to. [04:31] schestowitz > [04:31] schestowitz > PyPy (which you rarely mention) deserves a bit better. It's not as if it [04:31] schestowitz > needs equal time, but projects to preserve what was attacked/taken [04:31] schestowitz > over/abandoned such as Mate, Trinity, PyPy never get much love from the [04:31] schestowitz > community-- but they work so hard to preserve culture and offer choices. [04:31] schestowitz > When rms started doing this it was to preserve a culture. But that's in [04:31] schestowitz > very broad terms-- when other people work to preserve subcultures, [04:31] schestowitz > everybody acts like they are just pushing obsolete tools. Free Software [04:31] schestowitz > becomes more like Open Source all the time. Not a compliment. [04:31] schestowitz I am not familiar enough with PyPy. [04:31] schestowitz That is why I rarely mention it. [04:33] schestowitz By all means prepare an article about this if you can. You know more than me about Python. ● Nov 13 [05:55] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [05:56] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [05:56] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz ● Nov 13 [18:55] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-131120.txt

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