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[08:28] schestowitz-TR LOL! Lunduke is back on YouTube..
[08:28] schestowitz-TR I assume he's also back in Twitter, but did not check
[08:28] schestowitz-TR Anything he says is not credible.
[08:28] schestowitz-TR he posted a new video in YoiuTube just now...
[08:28] schestowitz-TR desperate for audience
[08:35] Techrights-sec :(
[08:35] Techrights-sec Probably. I guess at this point it is necessary to admit that he is completely
[08:35] Techrights-sec full of shit and should be 99% - 100% ignored.
[08:35] Techrights-sec If he wanted an audience, he should work on some actual relevant content
[08:35] Techrights-sec not just blathering and bloviations. They might be amusing once or twice, for
[08:35] Techrights-sec some subset of the population, but without any substance there is no reason
[08:35] Techrights-sec to even check on what he is doing. Along those lines, some weeks ago I notice
[08:35] Techrights-sec that I hadn't even been checking his RSS feed and then moved his feed into
[08:36] Techrights-sec a subfolder for defunct feeds. :/
[08:36] Techrights-sec It's been there in that folder since...
[08:36] Techrights-sec I wish him well and would prefer that he would refocus on FOSS-related topics
[08:36] Techrights-sec once again.
[08:36] Techrights-sec But if I want blather I can talk to myself / think outloud just fine on my
[08:36] Techrights-sec own without Youtube.
[08:37] schestowitz-TR yesterday fossforce was brought up
[08:37] schestowitz-TR it used to raise funds and had ken starks on
[08:37] schestowitz-TR then it became an anti-FSF bbyfield dump
[08:37] schestowitz-TR then some other thins
[08:37] schestowitz-TR like "quiz"
[08:37] schestowitz-TR that stopped about a month ago
[08:37] schestowitz-TR the site's purpose is unknown
[08:38] schestowitz-TR then there are some sites I followed for years -- sites that were OK
[08:38] schestowitz-TR they started experimenting with SEO spam and spamfarming
[08:39] schestowitz-TR really awful
[08:39] schestowitz-TR like, what do they think? Longtime readers won't notice?
[08:39] schestowitz-TR Then there's spamnil turning muktware/themukky/linuxveda into a junkfarm of proprietary people, "tfir"
[08:41] Techrights-sec I've wondered about Ken from time to time, now that he is reaching the
[08:41] Techrights-sec end of the trail and cannot participate in anything any more. His programme
[08:41] Techrights-sec ReGlue was great
[08:41] Techrights-sec Now I wonder what / how FOSSForce and many other sites have been turned so
[08:41] Techrights-sec hostile to FOSS and, in particular, Software Freedom and how they have come
[08:41] Techrights-sec to thrive on disinformation on many topics.
[08:43] schestowitz-TR some years ago phil shapio (son of unicef exec iirc) and roblimo did work with fossforce
[08:43] schestowitz-TR that was before bbyfield took over for 1-2 years
[08:43] schestowitz-TR to better understand fossforce now see the rms cancel letter, the LF ads in fossforce (diploma mills)
[08:43] schestowitz-TR then contrast with older fossforce articles about how LF sucks
[08:43] schestowitz-TR what changed the policy?
[08:43] schestowitz-TR billg and epstein at mit?
[08:43] schestowitz-TR lf donating $100,000,000 to community devs?
[08:43] schestowitz-TR rms eating babies?
[08:51] schestowitz-TR about to finish my 3rd night shift in a row, will have 3 days off after this
[08:56] Techrights-sec ack
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[09:01] Techrights-sec Roblimo died a while back.
[09:01] Techrights-sec https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rip-robin-roblimo-miller
[09:01] Techrights-sec The second generation is dying off / retiring. The newer generations have
[09:01] Techrights-sec been indoctrinated in anti-FOSS and even anti-OSS attitudes since their
[09:01] Techrights-sec earliest days, so there are as a result very, very few skilled people in
[09:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxjournal.com | RIP Robin "Roblimo" Miller | Linux Journal
[09:01] Techrights-sec computing coming in to replace anyone.
[09:02] schestowitz-TR some old timers too participated in the coup
[09:02] schestowitz-TR so age groups are not the best criterion for pro- or anti-
[09:02] schestowitz-TR joe barr died ages ago
[09:02] schestowitz-TR i reckon his linux.com articles are gone or lost in a sea of webspam
[09:05] Techrights-sec Yes, thus the reference to disinformation further above.
[09:05] Techrights-sec Yes, Barr was another important author. There were never any public details of
[09:05] Techrights-sec his sudden demise.
[09:05] Techrights-sec Some of his articles are still around, but likely buried, as you point out.
[09:05] Techrights-sec https://www.linux.com/news/my-first-10-years-linux/
[09:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-My first 10 years with Linux - Linux.com
[09:05] schestowitz-TR I showed what happens whewn you search linux.com for microsoft
[09:05] schestowitz-TR I think the word "shrine" in the the title in case you want to find that
[09:06] Techrights-sec That aritcle mentions another publication, Infoworld, which used to cover FOSS
[09:07] schestowitz-TR Infoworld editor is a Microsoft boosters since a decade back
[09:07] schestowitz-TR Paul
[09:09] Techrights-sec Between 1 and 2 decades ago, pretty much all the publications were subsumed or
[09:09] Techrights-sec shutdown. Most authors, at least the ones with a clue, were fired as far
[09:09] Techrights-sec as I can tell.
[09:09] Techrights-sec Back then 2 hours was not even enough to do more than partially cover headlines
[09:09] Techrights-sec Now it is enough to cover *all* of them in the last 24 hours plus leave time
[09:09] Techrights-sec over to read some of the more promising one in full while skimming many of the
[09:09] Techrights-sec rest.
[09:11] schestowitz-TR idea:
[09:11] schestowitz-TR we did breakdown by sources beforef
[09:11] schestowitz-TR for daily links
[09:11] schestowitz-TR sort sets by year
[09:11] schestowitz-TR for linux news
[09:11] schestowitz-TR then analyse % that is blogs
[09:11] schestowitz-TR MSM
[09:11] schestowitz-TR and others
[09:11] schestowitz-TR plot difference
[09:11] schestowitz-TR in TM< we used to have many MSM or "tech press" links
[09:11] schestowitz-TR now it's mostly blogs
[09:11] schestowitz-TR this idea is only theoretical to 'make a point'
[09:11] schestowitz-TR no need to work hard to show what many people uintuitivelyt know already
[09:13] Techrights-sec It'd have to exclude the automated links.
[09:13] Techrights-sec That'd be some effort, tere are over 4k sites:
[09:13] Techrights-sec $ grep -c '=>' ./Links/lib/CamelCase.pm
[09:13] Techrights-sec 4068
[09:13] Techrights-sec I wonder if it would be appropriate to modify the CamelCase.pm module
[09:13] Techrights-sec to include categories for the type of source. Two downsides are that it would
[09:13] Techrights-sec bloat the hell out of that file and it would take an enornmous amount of
[09:13] Techrights-sec work to set up and then increase the amount of effort to maintain the whole thing
[09:13] schestowitz-TR I was actually thinking maybe we should add site name to links in
in TM
[09:13] schestowitz-TR like we do in TR daily links
[09:13] schestowitz-TR it would be better use of time and require no annotation of sites
[09:20] Techrights-sec NewsForge was rather good for many years but shut down suddenly, too.
[09:20] Techrights-sec Adding site names to links in