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00:00 TR News; 24 hours have passed and #twitter did not even REPLY to my appeal, let alone processed it http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/straw-man-censorship/ #censorship #microsoft #osi #socialcontrolmedia
00:00 TR Bot; Criticising Microsoft and the OSI is COVID-19 Misinformation | Techrights
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00:01 TR News; #fsfe doesn't like it when I call it Gulag (Google) Deutschland. It even tried to get #twitter to kick me off the platform for it... (that failed) http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/
00:01 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights
00:02 TR News; Judging the "success" of FOSS NGO by how much money it is amassing is like judging the worth of a person by bodyweight
00:04 MinceR; the latter is pretty common too :>
00:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, He's still the only fat guy in the country.
00:06 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: maybe in some african nations
00:06 schestowitz-TR; and that too is no longer the case
00:06 DaemonFC; Everyone else seems to be willing to run though a field of landmines and possibly get shot in the back for a chance at making it to South Korea if they think they have any chance at all.
00:06 schestowitz-TR; it used to be a status symbol
00:06 schestowitz-TR; before processed foods, made cheaply
00:07 DaemonFC; For some strange reason, I think the person on the loudspeaker might be full of shit.
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00:08 TR News; Urgent Assignment https://assets.amuniversal.com/3ce3141038ea013a8a21005056a9545d #dilbert
00:09 DaemonFC; kingoffrance was right though.
00:09 DaemonFC; The sabotage seems to not work as well when the chunks in a torrent are smaller.
00:10 DaemonFC; The one I have now is 1 MB chunks and even though malicious peers manage to sabotage some, by the time they do, I already have several other good chunks.
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00:10 DaemonFC; 1 MB is not the most efficient chunk size, but when you're under attack it can limit the damage from a few malicious peers.
00:11 DaemonFC; To get a chunk, you have to set up a negotiation/connection with the peer, and that's overhead.
00:11 DaemonFC; And then you only get 1 MB and have to do this all the time, each time only getting 1 MB for the trouble of setting up the connection.
00:12 DaemonFC; In a swarm with no malicious peers, you could jack up the size of the chunks to 4 or 8 MB and cut the overhead down, as well as mitigating the loss if some peers disconnect in the middle of the chunk and you have to connect somewhere else and restart the chunk.
00:13 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: it is nowadays more commonly the other way around, i think
00:13 DaemonFC; 16 MB is a bad chunk size if you anticipate that peers will disconnect or that there will be malicious peers, because they can just feed you a lot of crap and very little good data gets through because you download so much crap it ties up your connection and client getting it and find out it's no good, over and over again.
00:14 DaemonFC; People who know what the fuck they're doing who make a torrent tend to stick to about 4 MB chunks.
00:15 DaemonFC; If the torrent is extremely small, 1 MB or 2 MB will also be okay.
00:17 DaemonFC; These earplugs are a real life saver.
00:17 DaemonFC; The upstairs neighbors listen to rap.
00:17 DaemonFC; It's bad enough when you can make out the lyrics. Mostly obscene and unintelligible.
00:18 DaemonFC; But when there's a wall, it's just an annoying thump.
00:18 DaemonFC; Bad either way.
00:18 TR News; Rule number one for 'FOSS' NGOs like FSFE, OSI, LF, SFC: Do NOT 'disparage' our sponsors. Rule number one for monopolies and oligarchs: fund (bribe) all the 'FOSS' NGOs that might otherwise say something negative about us. #bribery #scam http://techrights.org/2020/04/30/copyleft-conf-2020/
00:18 TR Bot; Platinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copylefts Father, Richard Stallman | Techrights
00:18 DaemonFC; Every stupid idiot who figures out autotune can "rap".
00:19 DaemonFC; I wonder if they figured out MP3 or if they actually pay for this shit.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; "rap"
00:19 schestowitz-TR; you mean, talk
00:19 DaemonFC; It's horrible.
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00:24 TR News; Stallman (2020) said: "I don't do any kind of digital payments, and the reason is the systems that exist do not respect the user's privacy, and that includes Bitcoin. Every Bitcoin transaction is published." It's also causing #pollution https://www.fudzilla.com/news/51317-stallman-gives-cryptocurrencies-the-thumbs-down
00:24 TR Bot; Stallman gives cryptocurrencies the thumbs down
00:25 psydroid4; now I understand what happened to Moronix
00:25 psydroid4; Michael became a spokesperson for the Linux-destroying Foundation
00:25 TR News; "LOL, you only get a third jab? LOSER!" https://www.arabnews.com/node/1993741/middle-east
00:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arabnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.arabnews.com/node/1993741/middle-east
00:25 TR Bot; Israeli hospital starts 4th jab trial as ministry weighs rollout | Arab News
00:26 TR News; #7Zip 21.07 is out https://www.neowin.net/news/7-zip-2107/ #freesw #gpl
00:26 TR Bot; 7-Zip 21.07 - Neowin
00:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR,
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00:31 TR News; #pfizer CEO insinuated #israel was an experiment to him (he called it "world's lab"). Only 45% of the people there agreed to take "booster". That's even less than the #uk (49%). The more they bring out those "booster of booster of booster..." (while cases still soar), the more sceptical people get. Good vaccines aren't like this...
00:33 MinceR; according to this, the mandatory against diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus administered in hungary has something like 6 doses >> https://vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu/Scheduler/ByCountry?SelectedCountryId=95&IncludeChildAgeGroup=true&IncludeChildAgeGroup=false&IncludeAdultAgeGroup=true&IncludeAdultAgeGroup=false
00:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu/Scheduler/ByCountry?SelectedCountryId=95&IncludeChildAgeGroup=true&IncludeChildAgeGroup=false&IncludeAdultAgeGroup=true&IncludeAdultAgeGroup=false
00:33 TR Bot; Vaccine Scheduler | ECDC
00:33 MinceR; so there's nothing strange or outrageous about administering 3 doses of a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2
00:33 TR News; "The Iranian regime is secretly executing dozens of children every year in violation of international law, according to a rights group." https://www.arabnews.com/node/1993636/middle-east
00:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arabnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.arabnews.com/node/1993636/middle-east
00:33 TR Bot; Iran secretly executing dozens of children: Rights group | Arab News
00:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/12/31/nordvpn-under-investigation-in-california-for-making-it-difficult-to-cancel/
00:34 TR Bot; NordVPN under investigation in California for making it difficult to cancel. BaronHK's Rants
00:34 MinceR; (or even 4)
00:35 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: the effects of taking these is less severe and some combine several dozes
00:35 schestowitz-TR; and come in tablets
00:35 schestowitz-TR; *doses
00:36 MinceR; so?
00:37 TR News; He shot the wrong animal https://beatricedailysun.com/news/national/tiger-at-florida-zoo-shot-to-death-after-pulling-mans-arm-into-enclosure-sheriffs-office/article_694d5b08-a19c-5679-a351-f9eb79a84510.html
00:37 TR Bot; man suffered serious injuries after being attacked by a tiger at a Florida zoo. The tiger was shot and killed | | beatricedailysun.com
00:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I mentioned to my psychiatrist the month long bronchitus that took two rounds of antibiotics to finally kill.
00:38 DaemonFC; He was surprised that I got that sick as I'm not a smoker.
00:38 schestowitz-TR; psychiatrist?!
00:38 DaemonFC; Mom said, "Well, he obviously doesn't practice medicine.".
00:38 schestowitz-TR; drug pushers
00:39 DaemonFC; I said, "He's a psychiatrist, not general practice.".
00:40 TR News; #uk #copaganda ... people who kill people... love penguins... aawwww jubbly lovely https://www.suasnews.com/2021/12/royal-navy-supports-international-research-into-penguin-population/
00:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suasnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suasnews.com/2021/12/royal-navy-supports-international-research-into-penguin-population/
00:40 TR Bot; Royal Navy supports international research into penguin population - sUAS News - The Business of Drones
00:42 TR News; #torygraph : the army isn't killing people, it is SAVING ANIMALS!! That's what we have troops with firearms for... saving the world! #uk #copaganda https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/26/royal-navys-mission-one-remote-places-earth-study-shrinking/
00:42 TR Bot; Royal Navy's mission in 'one of most remote places on Earth' to pick up penguin populations
00:42 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: DaemonFC can give a more authoritative advice then me
00:42 schestowitz-TR; as he took 3 shots
00:42 schestowitz-TR; and he's about our age afaik
00:42 MinceR; i took 3 shots too
00:43 schestowitz-TR; I'll take 3 shots tomorrow
00:43 schestowitz-TR; "happy new year"
00:43 DaemonFC; Was it Pfizer or some random Chinese shit?
00:43 MinceR; i got 2 doses of AstraZeneca Vaxzevria and 1 dose of Moderna Spikevax
00:43 DaemonFC; "From the people who brought you COVID-19 comes live hopefully-inactivated COVID-19!
00:44 TR News; Combination of tucatinib and neural stem cells secreting anti-HER2 antibody prolongs survival of mice with metastatic brain #cancer https://www.pnas.org/content/119/1/e2112491119
00:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pnas.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pnas.org/content/119/1/e2112491119
00:44 TR Bot; Combination of tucatinib and neural stem cells secreting anti-HER2 antibody prolongs survival of mice with metastatic brain cancer | PNAS
00:44 DaemonFC; The Chinese managed to make the most questionable vaccine out there.
00:44 schestowitz__[TR]; https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.html
00:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.html
00:44 TR Bot; Outrage in China over thousands of faulty vaccines for children - CNN
00:45 schestowitz__[TR]; (2018)
00:45 MinceR; iirc the EMA is reviewing an inactivated vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 that is from a more trustworthy source
00:45 schestowitz__[TR]; https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/16/asia/china-vaccine-scandal-doses-intl/index.html
00:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/16/asia/china-vaccine-scandal-doses-intl/index.html
00:45 TR Bot; Number of faulty children's vaccines in China surges to over 900,000 - CNN
00:45 schestowitz__[TR]; clinical trials are importanty
00:45 schestowitz__[TR]; we're in phase 2 now
00:46 MinceR; it comes from the French company Valneva SE
00:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz__[TR], Regarding the bag....
00:49 DaemonFC; It's actually the most comfortable way I've ever slept.
00:49 TR News; Long enough for me to get some tea... https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/31/this-gear-turns-only-once-every-346-quintillion-years/
00:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/31/this-gear-turns-only-once-every-346-quintillion-years/
00:49 TR Bot; This gear turns only once every 346 quintillion years | Arduino Blog
00:49 DaemonFC; It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to spend money on tons of electricity when your own body is more than capable of producing enough waste heat to fill up a sleeping bag and surround you.
00:50 DaemonFC; Bill Nye even mentioned how wasteful the human body is with energy.
00:50 DaemonFC; It spends an incredible amount trying to keep a constant temperature no matter what.
00:50 DaemonFC; You give an alligator a chicken a month, it's fine.
00:51 TR News; #vpn companies were always as dodgy as hell, more so than their customers https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/12/31/nordvpn-under-investigation-in-california-for-making-it-difficult-to-cancel/
00:51 TR Bot; NordVPN under investigation in California for making it difficult to cancel. BaronHK's Rants
00:51 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:51 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:52 schestowitz__[TR]; give a chicken one alligator a month
00:52 schestowitz__[TR]; and the chicken won't ask for food ever again
00:53 schestowitz__[TR]; DaemonFC: you can also use exercise for warm-up
00:53 schestowitz__[TR]; you can even do exercise while reading a book
00:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz__[TR], The Peter Staley thing, I should have blogged about him at the time.
00:54 DaemonFC; I wonder if he's had to work ever since the drug companies turned him into a Judas for AIDS patients.
00:54 DaemonFC; In the 1980s it was him screaming about them fleecing dying men.
00:55 DaemonFC; Then they got to him and now he says nothing bad about them, just blogs about all of their new "products" and how to get the government (taxpayers) to get fleeced if you have it.
00:56 DaemonFC; "A former crystal meth addict himself, Staley" -Wikipedia
00:57 DaemonFC; Oh, you don't say. Calling my phone number as fast as he could hang up and hit redial until I finally unplugged it from the wall until I could call the phone company and change it to an unlisted number.
00:57 DaemonFC; I wonder about "former".
00:58 MinceR; 31 015228 < schestowitz__[TR]> and the chicken won't ask for food ever again
00:58 MinceR; nice
00:58 DaemonFC; "Staley divides his time between rural Pennsylvania and an apartment in New York City's West Village, not far from where ACT UP first recruited him."
00:58 DaemonFC; Not bad on the salary of an "independent editor" and "activist".
00:59 DaemonFC; The part-time NYC apartment in one of the most expensive areas on a blogger's income, sure. Right. Okay.
00:59 DaemonFC; To say nothing of a house in Pennsylvania.
01:00 DaemonFC; MinceR, Did you know that I too am an activist?
01:00 DaemonFC; As of now I officially want to be an activist.
01:00 MinceR; lol
01:00 MinceR; how well does it pay?
01:00 DaemonFC; Then I can move back into the city and get a part-time $6,000 a month apartment, and a house in Indiana.
01:00 DaemonFC; :)
01:01 DaemonFC; <MinceR> how well does it pay?
01:01 DaemonFC; HIV is one of the most expensive conditions to treat.
01:01 DaemonFC; The medicine alone can run you over $60,000 a year, not to mention the tests and doctor visits to get refills.
01:01 MinceR; protip: don't get HIV
01:01 DaemonFC; Yeah, I know some people with it.
01:01 DaemonFC; Some are on government programs.
01:02 DaemonFC; One is a landlord who had to take out HELOC loans on all of his properties and max out his credit cards.
01:02 MinceR; another protip >> https://doomwiki.org/w/images/6/6a/Protip.jpg
01:02 DaemonFC; He himself benefited from Obamacare because they have to do about $150,000 a year worth of shit for him.
01:03 DaemonFC; But he complains that he makes millions a year and has to pay $2,600 a month for health insurance.
01:03 DaemonFC; Read: If I have to pay anything, I'll grouse. If I was poor, they'd just GIVE me my meds.
01:03 DaemonFC; I work very hard. I own a lot of houses working people pay rent on.
01:03 DaemonFC; It's not like I'm just waiting for a check in the mail.
01:04 DaemonFC; He's so cheap it's self-defeating.
01:04 DaemonFC; One of his tenants had plumbing problems, so he doesn't want to hire a plumber.
01:04 DaemonFC; Comes out, pours a bunch of shit down the pipe, which eats the pipes.
01:04 DaemonFC; And then he had to call a plumber.
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02:08 DaemonFC; I need to get a bacon rack for the microwave.
02:08 DaemonFC; I almost never use the microwave.
02:09 DaemonFC; My dad was so cheap when I was a kid that we had one of the first microwaves they ever built because in the 1970s, mom said "Whatever you do, don't buy a microwave. They're just a glorified hotdog cooker!".
02:09 DaemonFC; So he ran out the next day and bought one for $500, in the 70s.
02:10 DaemonFC; And we had to keep it forever because that's how dad was about everything, so it followed us around every move.
02:11 DaemonFC; And in the 90s, I was afraid of the damned thing, even more so when my dad brought home a "tricorder mark I" from work (which was a real thing) and it was leaking a shit ton of EM band radiation. I used to run and hide behind the wall until it dinged if I did use it.
02:12 DaemonFC; So I just fry bacon on the skillet and boil hotdogs.
02:12 DaemonFC; I only use the microwave for leftovers.
02:15 DaemonFC; It's like every appliance.
02:16 DaemonFC; $500 in 1974 was almost $3,000 today.
02:16 DaemonFC; Imagine paying $3,000 for a microwave today. But it's how gadgets are.
02:17 DaemonFC; You soak the early adopters who want to brag that they own one. Then the market becomes saturated and there's few left in each price range that still want one, and the price creeps down.
02:20 DaemonFC; What's going on with iPhones now is everyone has them, the snob appeal is pretty much gone, and there's a huge outflow to Android because people go "You know what, these aren't terribly impressive and all you use it for is online banking and hate liking other people's vacation on Facebook and making phone calls. I think I'll go get the $300 Android phone instead. It does all that.".
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02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-301221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-301221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-301221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-301221.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 30, 2021
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 30, 2021
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04:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz__[TR], I asked Northwestern Medicine for a cost estimate for one hour of family therapy with a psychologist, no insurance.
04:56 DaemonFC; $6,056
04:57 DaemonFC; A lot of these are actually court-ordered and the judge doesn't care if you can pay or not.
04:57 DaemonFC; So getting a divorce might entail 10 sessions like this, and over $60,000 in therapy bills.
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06:17 AdmFubar1; Shocking news! https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/tesla-recalling-cars-defect
06:17 TR Bot; is recalling 475,000 cars in the United States - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
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06:39 AdmFubar1; https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich
06:39 TR Bot; Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity | Erin Brockovich | The Guardian
06:53 AdmFubar1; not sure how good or bad this is https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/31/woman-self-isolates-in-plane-toilet-for-five-hours-after-covid-positive-test-mid-flight
06:53 TR Bot; Woman self-isolates in plane toilet for five hours after Covid-positive test mid-flight | Coronavirus | The Guardian
06:55 AdmFubar1; https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/texas-team-vaccine/
06:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: alternet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/texas-team-vaccine/
06:55 TR Bot; team applauded for giving what Big Pharma refuses: A patent-free vaccine to the world - Alternet.org
06:56 AdmFubar1; https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/american-fascism/
06:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: alternet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/american-fascism/
06:56 TR Bot; Americans are blithely ignoring the dire warning signs of fascism's rise - Alternet.org
06:56 AdmFubar1; https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/marjorie-taylor-greene-voting/
06:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: alternet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/marjorie-taylor-greene-voting/
06:56 TR Bot; isn't fringe anymore': Democrats express horror at Marjorie Taylor Greene's dangerous idea - Alternet.org
06:57 AdmFubar1; https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/biden-medicare/
06:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: alternet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alternet.org/2021/12/biden-medicare/
06:57 TR Bot; faces calls to end Trump-era push to undermine Medicare - Alternet.org
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07:07 AdmFubar1; ooohhhh this sounds secure!!!!! http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=309612
07:07 TR Bot; New Linux Build Allows BIOS Updates Without a Reboot | Tom's Hardware
07:09 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, December 30, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:09 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:09 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:09 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:15 AdmFubar1; https://www.salon.com/2021/12/29/rogue-planets/
07:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2021/12/29/rogue-planets/
07:15 TR Bot; planets are more common than we thought: Astronomers find 70 "rogue" planets in our galaxy | Salon.com
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07:42 TR News; Goodbye #CentOS 8 and Thanks for Everything! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159732 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:42 TR Bot; Goodbye CentOS 8 and Thanks for Everything! | Tux Machines
07:44 TR News; postmarketOS 21.12 improves Firefox UI and support - http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159687#comment-32339
07:44 TR Bot; postmarketOS // Release: v21.12 | Tux Machines
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07:44 TR News; A message from FSF president Geoff Knauth: Will you support user freedom by helping to reach our membership goal before December 31? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159733 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:44 TR Bot; A message from FSF president Geoff Knauth: Will you support user freedom by helping to reach our membership goal before December 31? | Tux Machines
07:46 TR News; #IBM uses deep pockets to push itself as the 'standard' https://www.itsfoss.net/red-hat-donates-10000-and-the-flatpak-package-will-be-official/ #redhat #flatpak
07:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/red-hat-donates-10000-and-the-flatpak-package-will-be-official/
07:46 TR Bot; Hat donates $10,000 and the Flatpak package will be official - itsfoss.net
07:49 TR News; Mico - A USB microphone based on Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/31/mico-a-usb-microphone-based-on-raspberry-pi-rp2040-mcu/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
07:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/31/mico-a-usb-microphone-based-on-raspberry-pi-rp2040-mcu/
07:49 TR Bot; Mico - A USB microphone based on Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software
07:51 TR News; #Exe 20211228 is released. #devuan based #gnu #linux distro. https://sourceforge.net/projects/exegnulinux/files/iso/
07:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: sourceforge.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/projects/exegnulinux/files/iso/
07:51 TR Bot; GNU/Linux - Browse /iso at SourceForge.net
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07:51 TR News; #Kernel : Intel and BLAKE2s in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159734 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:51 TR Bot; Kernel: Intel and BLAKE2s in Linux | Tux Machines
07:53 AdmFubar1; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/30/french-border-officials-in-uk-turn-back-british-residents-of-other-eu-countries
07:53 TR Bot; France suspends rule denying British residents of other EU countries transit | Coronavirus | The Guardian
07:53 TR News; #ArcoLinux 22.01.10 is out. "SURPRISE WE RELEASE THE ISOS EARLIER THAN PLANNED AAG ON 25/12/2021 OFFICIAL RELEASE ON 01/01/2022" https://www.arcolinux.info/ #gnu #linux
07:53 TR Bot; ArcoLinux | ArcoLinux
07:55 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 30, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/irc-log-301221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/irc-log-301221/
07:55 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 30, 2021 | Techrights
07:57 TR News; NEWS Literate Korn Shell http://zeus.jtan.com/~chohag/ksh/
07:57 TR Bot; Literate Korn Shell
07:59 TR News; 22858478
07:59 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Fortnite servers were down for five hours, but now the game is back online https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/29/22858478/fortnite-down-servers-offline-banned-epic-games-store
↺ https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/29/22858478/fortnite-down-servers-offline-banned-epic-games-store
07:59 TR Bot; Fortnite has been down for three hours and players are unable to log-in - The Verge
08:01 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Censorship Palestinians raise alarm over #Facebook content 'suppression' https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/palestinians-raise-alarm-over-facebook-content-suppression/88604726
08:01 TR Bot; Palestinians raise alarm over Facebook content 'suppression', CIO News, ET CIO
08:02 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Metaverse is unsafe for women already! Reports of groping, harassment rising in VR games https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/metaverse-is-unsafe-for-women-already-reports-of-groping-harassment-rising-in-vr-games/88604409
08:03 TR Bot; Metaverse is unsafe for women already! Reports of groping, harassment rising in VR games, CIO News, ET CIO
08:03 TR News; NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Monopolies #ATandT Gets Favorable IRS Ruling on Discovery-WarnerMedia Merger https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/discovery-warnermedia-merger-favorable-tax-ruling-irs-1235068056/
08:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/discovery-warnermedia-merger-favorable-tax-ruling-irs-1235068056/
08:03 TR Bot; Discovery-WarnerMedia Merger in Favorable Tax Ruling: IRS The Hollywood Reporter
08:03 TR News; "third-most viewed story was about a Turku firm that patented a [COVID] drug" https://yle.fi/news/3-12240860 #Patents #Patent #covid19 #monopolies
08:03 TR Bot; Yle News' 15 most-read stories of 2021 | News | Yle Uutiset
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08:38 TR News; NEWS #EFF #Broadband #internet Every State Has a Chance to Deliver a Fiber for All Broadband Future: 2021 in Review https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/every-state-has-chance-deliver-fiber-all-broadband-future-2021-review
08:38 TR Bot; Every State Has a Chance to Deliver a Fiber for All Broadband Future: 2021 in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:39 TR News; NEWS #EFF #proprietarySoftware Shining a Light on Black Box Technology Used to Send People to Jail: 2021 Year in Review https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/shining-light-black-box-technology-used-send-people-jail-2021-year-review
08:39 TR Bot; Shining a Light on Black Box Technology Used to Send People to Jail: 2021 Year in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:43 TR News; #GhislaineMaxwell found guilty of helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse girls https://text.npr.org/1066219689 #npr takes bribes from #billgates so he's not mentioned at all http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
08:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1066219689
08:43 TR Bot; Ghislaine Maxwell found guilty of helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse girls
08:43 TR Bot; Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights
08:43 TR News; "Four victims took the stand to ..." https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/587710-five-takeaways-from-the-ghislaine-maxwell-verdict iophk: a carefully curated testimony I presume http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
08:43 TR Bot; takeaways from the Ghislaine Maxwell verdict | TheHill
08:45 TR News; "Movie screening and extended discussion with the directors and editors, part of the #WikiLeaks team." https://mastodon.social/@emergeheart/107537178510240584
08:45 TR Bot; Emerge Heart - Challenge Power: "STARTING IN A FEW MINUTES! "THE WAR ON JOURNALIS" - Mastodon
08:47 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Huawei #china Internal Documents Show Huawei Is Staying On The Cutting Edge Of Oppression Tech https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211218/14003948143/internal-documents-show-huawei-is-staying-cutting-edge-oppression-tech.shtml
08:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211218/14003948143/internal-documents-show-huawei-is-staying-cutting-edge-oppression-tech.shtml
08:47 TR Bot; Documents Show Huawei Is Staying On The Cutting Edge Of Oppression Tech | Techdirt
08:56 TR News; NEWS #DemocracyNow #patent #monopolies Noam Chomsky: Corporate #Patents & Rising Anti-Science Rhetoric Will Prolong #Pandemic https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/30/noam_chomsky_corporate_patents_rising_anti
08:56 TR Bot; Noam Chomsky: Corporate Patents & Rising Anti-Science Rhetoric Will Prolong Pandemic | Democracy Now!
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08:57 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt DHS, ICE Begin Body Camera Pilot Program With Surprisingly Good Policies In Place https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211226/12382048179/dhs-ice-begin-body-camera-pilot-program-with-surprisingly-good-policies-place.shtml
08:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211226/12382048179/dhs-ice-begin-body-camera-pilot-program-with-surprisingly-good-policies-place.shtml
08:57 TR Bot; ICE Begin Body Camera Pilot Program With Surprisingly Good Policies In Place | Techdirt
09:00 TR News; NEWS #DemocracyNow #Chomsky Blasts the Torture of Julian #Assange & Bidens Provocative Acts Against #China https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/30/chomsky_blasts_the_torture_of_julian
09:00 TR Bot; Chomsky Blasts the Torture of Julian Assange & Bidens Provocative Acts Against China | Democracy Now!
09:04 TR News; "Dear CEOsyour 'business needs' are not worth the life of a single worker." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/30/after-cdc-change-it-lobbied-delta-slashes-paid-sick-leave-workers-covid
09:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/30/after-cdc-change-it-lobbied-delta-slashes-paid-sick-leave-workers-covid
09:04 TR Bot; After CDC Change It Lobbied For, Delta Slashes Paid Sick Leave for Workers With Covid
09:18 TR News; 2022, Our Sixteenth Year Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/welcome-2022/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #HNY | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/welcome-2022/
09:18 TR Bot; 2022, Our Sixteenth Year | Techrights
09:19 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #facebook #Censorship Oversight Board Overturning #Instagram Takedown Of Ayahuasca Post Demonstrates The Impossibility Of Content Moderation https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211215/05563248124/oversight-board-overturning-instagram-takedown-ayahuasca-post-demonstrates-impossibility-content-moderation.shtml
09:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211215/05563248124/oversight-board-overturning-instagram-takedown-ayahuasca-post-demonstrates-impossibility-content-moderation.shtml
09:19 TR Bot; Board Overturning Instagram Takedown Of Ayahuasca Post Demonstrates The Impossibility Of Content Moderation | Techdirt
09:20 TR News; 1.5 days later #twitter has STILL not responded to my appeal. #censorship #microsoft #osi http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/straw-man-censorship/
09:20 TR Bot; Criticising Microsoft and the OSI is COVID-19 Misinformation | Techrights
09:23 TR News; #twitter : chokepoint for oversensitive self-serving dictators like #fsfe http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/
09:23 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights
09:26 TR News; Streaming Until 2021 Is Finally Over - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y5TdBLxkSJc "Welcome to the Year of [GNU] Linux"
09:26 TR Bot; Q&A + MoreStreaming Until 2021 Is Finally Over - Invidious
09:28 TR News; It's almost 2022 in #nz and the NZ-based #LinuxLite 5.8-rc1 is now ready https://www.linuxliteos.com/
09:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxliteos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxliteos.com/
09:28 TR Bot; Linux Lite Easy to Use Free Linux Operating System
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #India Expands #Internet Blacklist to Tackle 'Hydra Headed Rogue Websites' https://torrentfreak.com/india-expands-piracy-blocklist-to-tackle-hydra-headed-rogue-websites-211230/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/india-expands-piracy-blocklist-to-tackle-hydra-headed-rogue-websites-211230/
09:34 TR Bot; Expands Piracy Blocklist to Tackle 'Hydra Headed Rogue Websites' * TorrentFreak
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #LaLiga Wins Dynamic Court Injunction to Block 40 #IPTV Platforms https://torrentfreak.com/laliga-wins-dynamic-injunction-to-block-40-pirate-iptv-platforms-211230/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/laliga-wins-dynamic-injunction-to-block-40-pirate-iptv-platforms-211230/
09:34 TR Bot; Wins Dynamic Court Injunction to Block 40 Pirate IPTV Platforms * TorrentFreak
09:35 TR News; He did not create a fake, corrupt foundation like #billgates https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/30/elon-musk-only-paid-11-billion-taxes-because-he-had-no-other-rational-choice #gatesfoundation should pay a ton in tax; Bill should be arrested. http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique
09:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/30/elon-musk-only-paid-11-billion-taxes-because-he-had-no-other-rational-choice
09:35 TR Bot; Opinion | Elon Musk Only Paid $11 Billion in Taxes Because He Had No Other Rational Choice | Bob Lord
09:35 TR Bot; Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
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09:47 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159735 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:47 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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09:48 TR News; Let's see if in 2022 #eu officials and maybe some #de officials will finally crack down on #organisedCrime at the #epo (Europe's second-largest org after the EU itself)
10:00 TR News; Greetings in advance, as in some parts of the world 2022 is only 6 hours away (Japan) or 3 hours away (New Zealand) http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/welcome-2022/ #techrights
10:05 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #Texas Team Applauded for Giving What #BigPharma Refuses: A Patent-Free Vaccine to the World https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/30/texas-team-applauded-giving-what-big-pharma-refuses-patent-free-vaccine-world
10:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/30/texas-team-applauded-giving-what-big-pharma-refuses-patent-free-vaccine-world
10:05 TR Bot; Texas Team Applauded for Giving What Big Pharma Refuses: A Patent-Free Vaccine to the World
10:08 TR News; #watchtroll the hive of sociopaths and #patent extremists (same thing) has been demonising those looking to broaden the reach of medicine by putting #patents in the backburner. http://techrights.org/wiki/Watchtroll
10:08 TR Bot; Watchtroll - Techrights
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10:34 TR News; Links 31/12/2021: 7-Zip 21.07 and Goodbye to #CentOS 8 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/goodbye-to-centos-8/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/goodbye-to-centos-8/
10:34 TR Bot; Links 31/12/2021: 7-Zip 21.07 and Goodbye to CentOS 8 | Techrights
10:34 TR News; New #GNULinux Videos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159736 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:34 TR Bot; New GNU/Linux Videos | Tux Machines
10:35 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159737 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:35 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:35 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159738 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:35 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
10:47 TR News; Post updated with latest figures for first and second jab http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/26/bbc-coronavirus-jabs-misinformation/ #covid19 #bbc #billbc #misinformation
10:47 TR Bot; Blog Archive Bill BC (Bill Gates-Bribed BBC) Lies About COVID-19 Data, Again (Updated)
10:47 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159739 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:47 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
10:52 TR News; #Mico - A USB microphone based on Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159740 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:52 TR Bot; Mico - A USB microphone based on Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU | Tux Machines
10:53 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Intuit Mint Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159741 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:53 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Intuit Mint | Tux Machines
10:55 frankenstein; does anybody have a spare invite to riseup email account? please PM me if so...
10:59 TR News; LOL! Waste of #energy and waaaay too expensive, contains #nsa back doors https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/31/com-express-type-10-tiger-lake-up3-module-targets-embedded-mobile-applications/ #intel is doomed, the workers are fleeing http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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10:59 TR Bot; COM Express Type 10 Tiger Lake UP3 module targets embedded mobile applications - CNX Software
10:59 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
11:03 TR News; WTH, #aaeon ? 28 watts for a "mobile" processor? Should these be diesel powered? Also, including #malware like #vista drivers on top of M.E. back doors? This product is NOT competitive. https://www.aaeon.com/en/p/com-express-cpu-modules-nanocom-tgu#downloads
11:03 TR Bot; Express Compact Type 10 with 11th Generation Intel Core Processor Family (formerly Tiger Lake UP3) - AAEON
11:04 TR News; Using #GNOME Screenshot Tool in Linux Like a Pro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159742 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:04 TR Bot; Using GNOME Screenshot Tool in Linux Like a Pro | Tux Machines
11:04 TR News; #LinuxLite 5.8 Is Slated for Release on February 1st, 2022, Now Available for Testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159743 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:04 TR Bot; Linux Lite 5.8 Is Slated for Release on February 1st, 2022, Now Available for Testing | Tux Machines
11:12 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159744 #Linux #TuxMachines
11:12 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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12:18 TR News; Sky Noise: 40% of #covid19 vaccine appointments in the #uk are "no shows"
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13:59 schestowitz__[TR]; Slow news today for Michael https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Linux-OSS-2021
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13:59 TR Bot; Year Microsoft Embraced eBPF, Debuted CBL-Mariner, Continued With WSL Features - Phoronix
14:09 TR News; The man who brought GNU/Linux to IBM, Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The World Ahead 2022: Adjusting to New Realities: https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/the-world-ahead-2022-adjusting-to-new-realities.html
14:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: irvingwb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/the-world-ahead-2022-adjusting-to-new-realities.html
14:09 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The World Ahead 2022: Adjusting to New Realities
14:11 psydroid4; doing the good work for the Microsoft Misinformation Foundation
14:11 schestowitz-TR; sad
14:11 schestowitz-TR; rianne did not like that 'article'
14:11 schestowitz-TR; "meta" 'article'
14:15 psydroid4; they probably got to him, but it doesn't really matter
14:16 psydroid4; it's the actual "community" that is important, not some "community" coalesced around some website
14:17 psydroid4; looking at specs of Chromebooks that are about to be sold I can't help but wonder how many of those would be great for running GNU/Linux distributions on
14:17 psydroid4; https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1778438/lenovo-ideapad-3-cb-14m836-82kn002nmh0/specificaties/
14:17 TR Bot; Lenovo IdeaPad 3 CB 14M836 (82KN002NMH0 - Kenmerken - Tweakers
14:18 psydroid4; that's far beyond what we had in our first PCs but also decent enough for running today's bloated software stacks
14:18 psydroid4; now if only they sold such machines with GNU/Linux as a first-class operating system
14:18 psydroid4; as in not with Gentoo-based ChromeOS
14:20 TR News; 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 4 Years of #AntnioCampinos Failing and #EPO Granting Loads of Invalid #Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/campinos-far-below-expectations/ #Techrights #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/campinos-far-below-expectations/
14:20 TR Bot; 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 4 Years of Antnio Campinos Failing and EPO Granting Loads of Invalid Patents | Techrights
14:21 schestowitz-TR; [14:16] <psydroid4> it's the actual "community" that is important, not some "community" coalesced around some website
14:21 schestowitz-TR; yes, this is true
14:21 schestowitz-TR; but they die from their own actions
14:21 schestowitz-TR; we saw that with Novell and others
14:21 schestowitz-TR; I don't worry about it too much
14:21 schestowitz-TR; as eventually, they will get what they deserve
14:21 schestowitz-TR; people cannot be fooled for so long
14:22 schestowitz-TR; BTW, I need post ideas about OSI
14:22 schestowitz-TR; I want to devote this week to OSI
14:22 schestowitz-TR; as they abuse Twitter to censor me
14:22 schestowitz__[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/straw-man-censorship/
14:22 TR Bot; Criticising Microsoft and the OSI is COVID-19 Misinformation | Techrights
14:30 schestowitz-TR; laqst night I checked their board
14:30 psydroid4; I think it's an intricate matter with Microsoft losing its grip on the computer industry, OSI being irrelevant and the "Linux" Foundation doing all kinds of random things that don't have much to do with software or even hardware at all
14:30 schestowitz-TR; IBM, Gulag etc.
14:30 schestowitz-TR; GAFAM controls OSI
14:30 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft has half the budget
14:31 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: LF is an openwashing incubator
14:31 schestowitz-TR; sometimes greenwashing+openwashing
14:31 schestowitz-TR; s "a service"
14:31 schestowitz-TR; IRS may be challenging its status
14:31 schestowitz-TR; I'[m not sure
14:32 schestowitz-TR; something doesn't seem right
14:32 schestowitz-TR; like massive delays
14:35 psydroid4; I think the news about the first affordable commercially available RISC-V board with decent specs is a bit of a landmark, just like the first Raspberry Pi was many years ago and which I completely missed at the time
14:35 psydroid4; everything seems in limbo nowadays, as if we are waiting for something big to happen
14:36 psydroid4; Microsoft is definitely getting nervous and involving as many third parties in their crusade as possible
14:44 TR News; [Meme] #EPO Social Dialogue: Blah Blah Blah Blah (But Nothing Gets Changed for the Better) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/meme-epo-social-dialogue-blah-blah-blah-blah-but-nothing-gets-changed-for-the-better/ #Techrights #Patents #Europe #Patent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/meme-epo-social-dialogue-blah-blah-blah-blah-but-nothing-gets-changed-for-the-better/
14:44 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Social Dialogue: Blah Blah Blah Blah (But Nothing Gets Changed for the Better) | Techrights
14:44 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft loves psydroid4
14:44 schestowitz-TR; wait for the job offer
14:44 schestowitz-TR; bribe
14:45 schestowitz-TR; I shall do a video about OSI
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14:49 psydroid4; Microsoft so far hasn't offered me a job, but maybe that's because I don't do anything with their "technologies"
14:49 psydroid4; and I wouldn't work there anyway
14:49 psydroid4; I'd rather go on a one-way trip to Antarctica
14:51 schestowitz-TR; looks like we made the front page somewhere
14:51 schestowitz-TR; not sure where
14:51 schestowitz-TR; 7000 hits per refresh
14:54 psydroid4; things like Twitter are made too important in the first place
14:55 psydroid4; I have an account but I never write anything there
14:58 schestowitz-TR; yup
14:58 schestowitz-TR; I am going to record now
14:58 schestowitz-TR; bbiab
15:22 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21122144
15:22 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6109577)
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15:52 psydroid4; even PCMag is calling out Microsoft on its miserable venture into keeping ARM laptops from being shipped with GNU/Linux distributions
15:52 psydroid4; https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/windows-on-arm-is-an-armbarrassment
15:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/windows-on-arm-is-an-armbarrassment
15:52 TR Bot; on ARM Is an ARMbarrassment | PCMag
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16:10 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9XdCN1ODJA
16:10 TR Bot; cat's first day at new home - YouTube
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16:26 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezg4sr67OGA
16:26 TR Bot; & Peele - Retired Military Specialist - YouTube
16:27 schestowitz-TR; [15:52] <psydroid4> even PCMag is calling out Microsoft on its miserable venture into keeping ARM laptops from being shipped with GNU/Linux distributions
16:27 schestowitz-TR; criminals gonna crim ;)
16:27 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft: we're hiring... criminals
16:27 schestowitz-TR; Uncle Bill: I WANT YOU!!! For the Mafia.
16:28 psydroid4; the hardware has been there for years, so I can only conclude that malicious dealings are going on behind the scenes
16:28 psydroid4; Mafia practices
16:30 schestowitz-TR; same with WSL and HP
16:30 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft seesm to have leaned on HP
16:30 schestowitz-TR; if you deliver with gnu/.linux, there will be consdequence
16:30 schestowitz-TR; eventually they shop Vista with WSL:
16:31 schestowitz-TR; And nobody will investigate this
16:31 schestowitz-TR; Judas Zemlin won't file an antitrust complaint
16:31 schestowitz-TR; thry just bribe everybody
16:31 schestowitz-TR; I am uploading a 75-min video on OSI at the moment
16:31 schestowitz-TR; didn't thik it would be this long
16:31 psydroid4; I have 2 HP laptops here that have no traces of Vista SP left on them
16:32 psydroid4; so HP must always sell more new hardware to keep Vista alive for their partner
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16:32 schestowitz-TR; in a pair of other channels you can see the background story
16:32 schestowitz-TR; from email
16:32 schestowitz-TR; OSI ppretends Microsoft is not an issue
16:32 schestowitz-TR; follow the money
16:32 schestowitz-TR; bribed
16:32 schestowitz-TR; dead
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; draft:
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; Why the Open Source Initiative Cannot be Saved (It's Too Heavily Controlled by Monopolies)
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; <em><b>Summary</b>: The Open Source Initiative (OSI) is a floundering institution whose real budget is decreasing (Microsoft is just 'laundering' money through the OSI) and it doesn't want people -- especially paying members -- to understand what's really going on</em>
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; <p class="dropcap-first"><a name="top">C</a>OMMUNITIES can see that the Open Source Initiative (OSI) does not represent them. The OSI cannot be slavaged. Throwing money at "membership" won't help either because [cref 154045 members' contributions are ony 4% of the budget]. Most of the OSI's spendings are a redirection of Microsoft to Microsoft and the <a href="https://opensource.org/docs/board-annotated" title="OSI Board of Directors">OSI's
16:33 TR Bot; Board - Annotated | Open Source Initiative
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; Board of Directors</a> is basically a bunch of "tech giants", with the odd pair that is not (still a minority of the whole).</p>
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; <p><span class="pullQuote" style="width:260px">"OSI isn't pressured to rename itself; but we need to recognise that today's OSI isn't the same OSI we knew over a decade ago."</span><em>Techrights</em> used to be an ally and a friend of OSI; heck, management figures from the OSI used to speak to us, send us material, and read us regularly. But today's OSI is an entirely different institution, mostly riding the reputation of its past self (as [
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; cref 15210 the Southern Poverty Law Center does]. We need to move on and focus on more legitimate institutions, not misleadingly named. Incidentally, the FSFE, which also tries to censor <em>Techrights</em> ([cref 153641 but fails]) [cref 132065 is in violation of its agreement with the FSF and it needs to rename]. OSI isn't pressured to rename itself; but we need to recognise that today's OSI isn't the same OSI we knew over a decade ago. <a
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; href="#top"></a>
16:33 schestowitz__[TR]; typos? ^
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16:34 TR News; iophk: even Amnesty is colluding to avoid naming #patents https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/12/covid-19-wealthy-states-and-pharma-companies-catastrophically-failed-to-ensure-equal-access-to-vaccines-in-2021/ #patent #monopolies #greed #coverup
16:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: amnesty.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/12/covid-19-wealthy-states-and-pharma-companies-catastrophically-failed-to-ensure-equal-access-to-vaccines-in-2021/
16:34 TR Bot; Covid-19: Wealthy states and pharma companies catastrophically failed to ensure equal access to vaccines in 2021 - Amnesty International
16:34 psydroid4; I didn't see any
16:50 TR News; #Xfce s Apps Update for December 2021: New Releases of Xfce Terminal, Whisker Menu, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159745 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:50 TR Bot; Xfces Apps Update for December 2021: New Releases of Xfce Terminal, Whisker Menu, and More | Tux Machines
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16:54 schestowitz-TR; psydroid4: thanks, that gives me more confidence in thr draft
16:54 schestowitz-TR; I can add a sentence/quote from you
16:54 schestowitz-TR; witty short insight
17:11 TR News; Phoronix #microsoft hustling again today. Link omitted. SMH.
17:12 TR News; Tonight #techrights will release a 72-minute video explaining what the #osi is (or what it became)
17:18 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comictoothfairy1.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2403/ )
17:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comictoothfairy1.png
17:18 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
17:23 TR News; Search for "ubuntu" news, get mostly Tutu eulogies. I suppose it was inevitable; corporate shark and multimillionaire Mark Shuttleworth co-opting a word contrary to what #canonical nowadays does: http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/
17:23 TR Bot; Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights
17:25 TR News; xkcd: Formatting Meeting https://xkcd.com/2562/ #xkcd
17:25 TR Bot; Formatting Meeting
17:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2562/
17:26 TR News; #Apple #AirTags Are Being Used to Track People and Cars https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/12/apple-airtags-are-being-used-to-track-people-and-cars.html #cars themselves are becoming the problem, too: http://techrights.org/2021/12/25/war-on-generalised-things/
17:26 TR Bot; AirTags Are Being Used to Track People and Cars - Schneier on Security
17:26 TR Bot; The Car Drives You Part V Part of the Coming War on General Computation | Techrights
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17:29 TR News; This title is NOT appropriate because #github is PROPRIETARY software and it gives POWER (or CONTROL) to #microsoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEW5f7F94FY
17:29 TR Bot; Live - Updating all my GitHub Projects - The Power of FOSS - YouTube
17:31 TR News; For #apple , the small "i" stands for "idiots" or "ignoramus" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/technology/apple-airtags-tracking-stalking.html also see http://techrights.org/2021/12/25/war-on-generalised-things/
17:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/technology/apple-airtags-tracking-stalking.html
17:31 TR Bot; Are Apple AirTags Being Used to Track People and Steal Cars? - The New York Times
17:32 TR News; Buying #apple is a class or status symbol. Not a positive one. To that same extent carrying water in piece of pottery on top of your head is a way to signal wealth...
17:34 TR News; #Libadwaita 1.0 Arrives to Kickstart a New Era of GTK App Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159746 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:34 TR Bot; Libadwaita 1.0 Arrives to Kickstart a New Era of GTK App Development | Tux Machines
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17:36 frankenstein; i LOVE this.
17:36 frankenstein; https://www.quotemaster.org/images/26/266e6971935cc3db7402f4ac18090c80.jpg
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17:36 frankenstein; :-D
17:42 TR News; IBM's Assassination of CentOS Effective Today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159732#comment-32342
17:42 TR Bot; Goodbye CentOS 8 and Thanks for Everything! | Tux Machines
17:42 TR News; #Hugin 2021 Released! #HowTo Install via PPA in Ubuntu 20.04, 21.10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159747 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:42 TR Bot; Hugin 2021 Released! How to Install via PPA in Ubuntu 20.04, 21.10 | Tux Machines
17:44 TR News; #ibm "Smart" = defecting from support of Hitler to supporting the Allies when Hitler was losing the war and after the US had entered it (making money from BOTH sides) http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/
17:44 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
17:46 TR News; "That announcement created a lot of different sentiments in the community and even more among the #CentOS Linux users." You don't say, DO you? WHAT kind of sentiments? Even what's left of #fedora "community" fled (it took that as an #ibm hint) https://fale.io/blog/2021/12/31/centos-linux-8-eol
17:46 TR Bot; NO TITLE
17:48 TR News; #ibm is good at killing people and getting money from governments, i.e. from taxpayers. Right now it makes tons of money from governments looking to leverage #pandemic for mass #surveillance (billions of SUBJECTS, not customers) http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/
17:48 TR Bot; IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights
17:48 TR News; #ibm "values"#diversity as much as so-called #linuxfoundation does http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/lf-diversity-and-inclusion/
17:48 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Does Not Truly Care About Diversity and Inclusion, Its Just Using That | Techrights
17:49 TR News; #ibm 'diversity' is not what they want you to think http://techrights.org/2019/11/28/diversity-forms/
17:49 TR Bot; Diversity Comes in Many Forms | Techrights
17:50 TR News; #outreachy diversity, funded by ethnic cleansers http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/outreachy-funding/
17:50 TR Bot; Diversity Funding From Enablers of Adolf Hitler (Not a Joke, Not Even Funny) | Techrights
17:54 CrystalMath; Package: ibm
17:54 CrystalMath; Conflicts: rms
17:54 schestowitz__[TR]; Replace with: systemd
17:55 CrystalMath; hmm, i forgot the debian package definition for that
17:55 CrystalMath; it has "Replaces:"
17:55 CrystalMath; maybe Replaced-By
18:01 TR News; Lots of "meta" posts and articles today/this week, saying nothing new or interesting, just "top something" or "list of something". Please don't do these; they're pointless and clog up RSS feeds... ;-)
18:35 TR News; Profitable stupidity: Problem With The Product https://assets.amuniversal.com/bbcc856040d9013a8c65005056a9545d
18:37 TR News; The second Palm Tungsten, the Tungsten T, was introduced in November 2002. I still use it. So my PDA (like "smart" phone but a lot smarter and saner) will be 20 tomorrow.
18:38 TR News; My Year as a #DigitalVegan Part VII Staying the Course and Fake It Till You Make It? Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-7/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-7/
18:38 TR Bot; My Year as a Digital Vegan Part VII Staying the Course and Fake It Till You Make It? | Techrights
18:38 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: yours lasted a year
18:38 schestowitz-TR; also Tungten T?
18:38 schestowitz-TR; *Tungsten
18:42 TR News; #irc turns 34 this coming year! 3 years older than #linux the #kernel ... 1988 as opposed to 1991 but same month.
18:43 TR News; People should be proud of how old and long-lasting their stuff is (that means they care for it, they also take good care of it), not how "smart" or "new" something is. Remember: newer is not always better.
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18:46 TR News; Not only money is a motivator, but good luck explaining that to pointy-haired bosses who judge everything and everyone buy income https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/it-leadership-3-ways-cios-can-show-gratitude-their-teams
18:46 TR Bot; IT leadership: 3 ways to show gratitude to teams | The Enterprisers Project
18:50 TR News; #microsoft #github "only shows what I have published on github. I wanted to see how much activiity I had from my coding" ()perpetuating this illusion that code NOT GIVEN TO MICROSOFT FOR FREE DOES NOT EXIST!) http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-Dec-31.html.en#2021-Dec-31-20:50:01 #deletegithub
18:50 TR Bot; Plot something like github graph from my local repos.
18:51 TR News; #ReproducibleBuilds (diffoscope): #diffoscope 198 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-198-released/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/29/with-sponsors-like-these/
18:51 TR Bot; diffoscope 198 released
18:51 TR Bot; With Sponsors Like These | Techrights
18:53 TR News; This is misleading, but an #ibm employee wants you to think #fedora is having an "amazing" time when in reality all that's left of the project is IBM (or #redhat -- technically the same) staff because volunteers fled after IBM had abolished/scuttled #centos https://fedoramagazine.org/looking-back-on-2021-and-ahead-to-an-amazing-new-year/
18:53 TR Bot; Looking back on 2021 and ahead to an amazing new year - Fedora Magazine
18:56 TR News; Mr. Bryant should know better. #Microsoft is still attacking #Linux and it's also attacking (or bribing) the media to claim the very opposite https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NSqgp47BKKM #video #invidious #multimedia
18:56 TR Bot; Linux Daddies: The Corporations that make the Linux world go 'round - Invidious
19:00 TR News; According to an internal (February 2021) publication from elected leaders of #EPO examiners, #AntnioCampinos has failed to enchant the staff and has performed far below expectations Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/campinos-far-below-expectations/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/campinos-far-below-expectations/ #swpats #patents
19:00 TR Bot; 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 4 Years of Antnio Campinos Failing and EPO Granting Loads of Invalid Patents | Techrights
19:01 TR News; I appreciate that for some of you, things may not be changing as quickly as you would like, #AntnioCampinos said, but 2022 will be his fifth year in the Office (he was parachuted into the Office as President despite a lack of experience or an understanding of this institution) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/meme-epo-social-dialogue-blah-blah-blah-blah-but-nothing-gets-changed-for-the-better/ #epo #europe
19:01 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Social Dialogue: Blah Blah Blah Blah (But Nothing Gets Changed for the Better) | Techrights
19:01 TR News; #Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159748 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:01 TR Bot; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:03 TR News; Dr. #AndyFarnell continues sharing his Tech Vegan experiences from this past year; this series will carry on well into the new year (2022) http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-7/ #freesw #gnu #fsf #freedom
19:06 TR News; Project called "mold" using #proprietarySoftware #microsoft #monopoly for development and non-reciprocal licence. "I guess all the good names really are gone. I suppose it's better than "phlegm."" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1299340-mold-1-0-1-released-as-newest-version-of-this-high-speed-linker
19:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1299340-mold-1-0-1-released-as-newest-version-of-this-high-speed-linker
19:06 TR Bot; 1.0.1 Released As Newest Version Of This High-Speed Linker - Phoronix Forums
19:09 TR News; #KDE Has A New Desktop? - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/uS2JoiV57BiWLoE5qQTttD #gnu #linux #freesw
19:09 TR Bot; KDE Has A New Desktop? - Kockatoo Tube
19:10 TR News; A New KDE Web Browser Approaches! - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/fAXG7aMfXH5cJ5qGhmW6E8 #KDE #gnu #linux #freesw
19:10 TR Bot; A New KDE Web Browser Approaches! - Kockatoo Tube
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19:31 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: Tungsten E2
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19:44 DaemonFC; https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/30/iphone-plant-shutdown-india/
19:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I commented:
19:44 TR Bot; plant shutdown: Rats, worms, toilets w/o running water - 9to5Mac
19:44 DaemonFC; Someone told me I'm a hypocrite for having an Android phone that cost a few hundred bucks (that I rarely use for apps because apps are stupid and always want on your phone instead of the website because that way they can spy on you more, especially car insurance companies), but Apple's top of the line iPhone costs them less than $240 to produce, retails for almost $2,000, and then the people making them have living conditions like this, and
19:44 DaemonFC; suicide nets, while Tim Cook shakes hands with Trump and enters into contracts with ICE and HSI to help deport immigrants, and funded Trump 2020 (as a gay man himself) so we could get more Republican Supreme Court judges to reverse the marriage equality decision and others.
19:44 DaemonFC; Apple is a filthy rotten company, and they're a meme to boot. In 1974, my mom told my dad, "Whatever you do, don't get a microwave oven. They're an overglorified hotdog cooker." so he rushed out and bought one the next day for $500 ($3,000 with inflation). They always start very high because nobody has one yet and they want to feel snobbish and elite, and then when everyone has one and you're not special anymore, usually the price falls.
19:44 DaemonFC; But with iPhones, the price continues to go up, because their strategy is more like cigarettes. Apple lost (another) 14% of the smartphone market share in 2020 to Android and another 3% again this year, but they keep making money by selling less phones, to the even more incompetent user who will stick around and pay THAT even when smartphones aren't very useful and people who rushed to buy an iPhone eventually caught on that it's an
19:44 DaemonFC; overglorified text messaging device.
19:46 schestowitz-TR; well said, lol
19:46 schestowitz-TR; I am amazed that many in the US still fall for it
19:46 schestowitz-TR; hierarchy of needs: a) latest 'i' thing
19:46 schestowitz-TR; b) toilet at home
19:47 TR News; Full Circle Magazine #176 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2021/12/31/full-circle-magazine-176/ #gnu #linux
19:47 TR Bot; Full Circle Magazine #176 | Full Circle Magazine
19:50 DaemonFC; I called Golden Corral. No lunch today because it's a holiday. Figures.
19:50 DaemonFC; Well, if I'm going to pay dinner prices, no sense going on off hours.
19:50 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: can you read a draft?
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19:50 schestowitz-TR; we've just had our new year diner
19:50 schestowitz-TR; *dinner
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19:50 schestowitz-TR; we got things like a quarter original price
19:50 schestowitz-TR; inc. some vegan items
19:50 DaemonFC; Well, for dinner you get steak and things on the buffet that they don't have for lunch.
19:50 DaemonFC; It's usually ham or turkey for lunch.
19:51 schestowitz-TR; we don't leave home except for meds, running, and food
19:51 schestowitz-TR; buffet is mad
19:51 DaemonFC; To be fair, we probably shouldn't.
19:51 schestowitz-TR; with all the peoople touching the shared silverware
19:52 schestowitz-TR; never mind breazing or spitting near the food
19:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, they have gloves though.
19:52 DaemonFC; Eh, it's harder than usual to get the food because it's all behind a bigger sneeze guard than ever.
19:52 schestowitz-TR; security theatre
19:52 schestowitz-TR; ^ [19:52] <DaemonFC> Yeah, they have gloves though.
19:52 schestowitz-TR; so does TSA
19:52 schestowitz-TR; they still employe pedos
19:52 DaemonFC; John was telling me stories.
19:53 schestowitz-TR; the pedos still grope you kid and get hard under the uniform
19:53 DaemonFC; There was a big fat guy that broke all of their chairs. He'd sit in the break room watching porn on his phone until they eventually fired him.
19:53 DaemonFC; And there was another one that would feel women up, and men too.
19:53 DaemonFC; He told one "My, you're well endowed.".
19:53 DaemonFC; They moved him to third shift for a while and then fired him.
19:54 schestowitz-TR; can you read the draft?
19:54 DaemonFC; Yeah, need my glasses.
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19:55 DaemonFC; There we go.
19:56 schestowitz__[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/open-source-initiative-floundering/
19:56 TR Bot; Why the Open Source Initiative Cannot be Saved (Its Too Heavily Controlled by Monopolies) | Techrights
20:00 DaemonFC; slavaged
20:00 DaemonFC; "spendings are"
20:01 DaemonFC; spending is
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20:03 DaemonFC; http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/
20:03 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights
20:03 DaemonFC; LOL
20:03 DaemonFC; I'm not in Germany and fuck German law.
20:05 psydroid4; Deutschland has gotta die!
20:06 schestowitz-TR; hate speech!!
20:07 TR News; Why the #OpenSourceInitiative Cannot be Saved (Its Too Heavily Controlled by Monopolies) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/open-source-initiative-floundering/ #Techrights #OSI #OpenSource #Microsoft | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/open-source-initiative-floundering/
20:07 TR News; New Videos: KDE, Linux Daddies, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159749 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:07 TR Bot; New Videos: KDE, 'Linux Daddies', and More | Tux Machines
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20:11 schestowitz__[TR]; The #OpenSourceInitiative (OSI) is a floundering institution whose real budget is decreasing ( #Microsoft is just laundering money through the OSI) and it doesnt want people especially paying members to understand whats really going on Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/open-source-initiative-floundering/ #Techrights #OSI
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20:12 TR News; #epo has redefined "dialogue" http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/meme-epo-social-dialogue-blah-blah-blah-blah-but-nothing-gets-changed-for-the-better/ #corruption #europe #patents
20:12 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Social Dialogue: Blah Blah Blah Blah (But Nothing Gets Changed for the Better) | Techrights
20:21 TR News; #AMD 's FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) should be a huge deal for #SteamDeck based on its Linux performance | Windows Central https://www.windowscentral.com/amds-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-can-be-huge-deal-steam-deck #windowscentral
20:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/amds-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-can-be-huge-deal-steam-deck
20:21 TR Bot; AMD's FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) should be a huge deal for Steam Deck based on its Linux performance | Windows Central
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20:24 TR News; #Unitree Z1 Robotic Arm Can Pour You a Glass of Wine or Open the Door for You Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159750 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:24 TR Bot; Unitree Z1 Robotic Arm Can Pour You a Glass of Wine or Open the Door for You | Tux Machines
20:24 TR News; 10 #Selfhosting Ideas You Can Build with #Yunohost Server Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159751 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:24 TR Bot; 10 Selfhosting Ideas You Can Build with Yunohost Server | Tux Machines
20:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159752 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:29 TR News; Alexander Mikhaylenko: Libadwaita 1.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159746#comment-32343
20:29 TR Bot; Libadwaita 1.0 Arrives to Kickstart a New Era of GTK App Development | Tux Machines
20:41 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Had-to-wait-til-a-day-after-to-be-blasphemous.-You-know,-just-in-case..png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2431/ )
20:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Had-to-wait-til-a-day-after-to-be-blasphemous.-You-know,-just-in-case..png
20:41 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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21:07 TR News; #Crowdfunded Astro Slide phone with slide-out keyboard, Linux support should ship in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159753 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:07 TR Bot; Crowdfunded Astro Slide phone with slide-out keyboard, Linux support should ship in 2022 | Tux Machines
21:08 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159754 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:08 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:09 TR News; Celebrate New Year 2022 by switching from Windows 11 to Linux Lite 5.8 RC1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159743#comment-32344
21:09 TR Bot; Linux Lite 5.8 Is Slated for Release on February 1st, 2022, Now Available for Testing | Tux Machines
21:13 TR News; "or Corona reason (!?) it is forbidden to buy or sell fireworks in Germany in 2021 https://www.zeit.de/2022/01/feuerwerksverbot-silvester-2021-corona " https://dwaves.de/2021/12/31/as-happy-as-possible-new-year-everyone-keep-on-rockin/
21:13 TR Bot; ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. Sie haben die Wahl.
21:13 TR Bot; As Happy As Possible New Year everyone! Keep on Rockin | dwaves.de
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21:26 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7FW-NFxws
21:26 TR Bot; purring unbelievably cute - YouTube
21:26 TR News; Disappointing to see #medevel helping to promote #microsoft #proprietarySoftware ... Hamza Musa should know better https://medevel.com/dendron/
21:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/dendron/
21:26 TR Bot; Dendron converts VSCode to an intelligent Knowledge management tool
21:28 TR News; " #Tumbleweed had a small dip, as the last two snapshots that moved to #openQA had to be stopped from being published. Nevertheless, we still managed to publish 6 snapshots before heading out to the new-year celebrations (12231228)." https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/12/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-52/ #opensuse
21:28 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/52 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
21:28 TR News; #Steam Deck Speed and Installer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159755 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:28 TR Bot; Steam Deck Speed and Installer | Tux Machines
21:30 schestowitz__[TR]; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Happy-New-Year-2022
21:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Happy-New-Year-2022
21:30 TR Bot; New Year & A Wrap On 2021 - Phoronix
21:31 schestowitz__[TR]; who paid for all this? ;-)
21:33 TR News; #Libadwaita 1.0 Released For Kicking Off A New Year Of GNOME App Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159746#comment-32345
21:33 TR Bot; Libadwaita 1.0 Arrives to Kickstart a New Era of GTK App Development | Tux Machines
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21:42 TR News; Will Anyone Actually Show Up at #CES on Wednesday? https://fossforce.com/2021/12/will-anyone-actually-show-up-at-ces-on-wednesday/ http://ifthisbetreason.com/2021/12/ces-rolls-the-dice-and-gambles-on-becoming-a-superspreader-event/
21:42 TR Bot; Will Anyone Actually Show Up at CES on Wednesday? - FOSS Force
21:42 TR Bot; CES Rolls the Dice and Gambles on Becoming a Superspreader Event | If This Be Treason
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; wow!
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; https://www.windowscentral.com/tired-windows-its-time-give-linux-try
21:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/tired-windows-its-time-give-linux-try
21:44 TR Bot; Tired of Windows? It's time to give Linux a try. | Windows Central
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; windows fan site
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; "I'm a fan of what Microsoft finally brought to the desktop with Windows 11. Our resident Windows expert Zac Bowden gave the OS a positive score in his incredible in-depth review and I agree with the majority of what was written. Where Windows 11 falls flat for me, however, is with the installation process. It's an absolute mess.'
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; '
21:44 schestowitz__[TR]; "For a laugh, I installed Linux Mint on all the machines and didn't see a single problem. Not one. This is a billion-dollar company going up against average Joe and losing in my anecdotal experiences."
21:45 schestowitz__[TR]; Now even shilling wsl
21:45 schestowitz__[TR]; even the microsoft shills are bailing out
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21:50 TR News; "From Kates development perspective this year looks fantastic. If you track a bit the development via our merge requests overview page or even better participate yourself in our projects, you might have already noticed it ;=)" https://kate-editor.org/post/2021/2021-12-31-kate-in-2021/
21:50 TR Bot; The Kate Text Editor in 2021 - Kate
21:56 TR News; #Windows Central: Tired of Windows? Its time to give Linux a try. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159756 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:56 TR Bot; Windows Central: Tired of Windows? It's time to give Linux a try. | Tux Machines
21:59 TR News; "COVID-19 remains an extremely dynamic part of the way that we live and experience the world. But even if optimism was in short supply (and less so after learning that as I was posting this, Betty White died just three weeks before her 100th birthday)" https://tedium.co/2021/12/31/tedium-trends-2022/
21:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2021/12/31/tedium-trends-2022/
21:59 TR Bot; Strategies To Make 2022 Better: Embrace the Folks Around Us
22:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159757 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:05 TR News; #GIMP 2021 annual report Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159758 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:05 TR Bot; GIMP 2021 annual report | Tux Machines
22:06 TR News; #Anklang takes over Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159759 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:06 TR Bot; Anklang takes over | Tux Machines
22:11 psydroid4; Cutler's hatred for anything UNIX has continued with the Windows crowd
22:11 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159760 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:11 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:11 psydroid4; even if GNU/Linux is 100x better they would still invent reasons to call it worse
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22:21 activelow; psydroid4: GNU/Linux is better than IBM Wintel Vista
22:21 activelow; even if GNU/Linux was closed source, as a bonus it isn't
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22:26 TR News; Links 31/12/2021: #Libadwaita 1.0 and Hugin 2021 Released Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/31/libadwaita-1-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/31/libadwaita-1-0/
22:26 TR Bot; Links 31/12/2021: Libadwaita 1.0 and Hugin 2021 Released | Techrights
22:27 TR News; #Kernel : Intel, Lenovo, and AMD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159761 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:27 TR Bot; Kernel: Intel, Lenovo, and AMD | Tux Machines
22:27 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159762 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:27 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:27 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159763 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:27 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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22:42 MinceR; every OS is absolute total garbage
22:42 MinceR; this whole industry is absolute total garbage
22:43 psydroid4; I agree with that, but even then there are degrees of garbage
22:43 MinceR; i'm tired of every degree
22:44 MinceR; i had a power outage for a few minutes and both laptops (one running openbsd, the other running gnu/linux) went full retard
22:44 MinceR; no error handling, no error recovery
22:44 MinceR; and on the gaming laptop i run backdoors10, on which explorer.exe freezing for 5 minutes is just standard now
22:44 psydroid4; I'm tired of it too, but until we have replacements I am trying to make the best out of this huge pile of garbage
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22:45 MinceR; on the gnu/linux laptop, the battery bulged and it required 3 hands to remove because it was designed by retards
22:45 MinceR; (thinkpad x270)
22:45 MinceR; also the fan died so i'm not sure if i'll dare turn it on again
22:45 psydroid4; I don't have backdoors 10/11 except for a pair of VMs
22:46 psydroid4; the industry has become the enemy of the people who operate computers
22:46 psydroid4; so it should be wiped out
22:48 XRevan86; MinceR: 3 hands? How come?
22:48 XRevan86; On X230 there are two fixators, and one of them doesn't require to be held in an open position.
22:48 MinceR; there are 2 spring-loaded latches you must hold while sliding out the battery
22:48 MinceR; yeah, lenovo got rid of every engineer since then
22:49 MinceR; now both latches are spring-loaded, because fuck the user
22:49 MinceR; but they still call these piles of garbage "thinkpad"
22:49 psydroid4; I'm worried about hardware that has come out since 2017
22:49 XRevan86; I have to admit I did forget to close that other latch a few times.
22:49 MinceR; my X60s will still be workable (though too slow to run practically anything) when this will just be a pile of ash
22:50 psydroid4; if (industry standard) systems are all garbage, why should I even get something new
22:51 XRevan86; psydroid4: "too slow to run practically anything" <- Probably that.
22:52 psydroid4; XRevan86, do you see a Core i7-6700HQ with 32 GB of RAM not being sufficient to "run practically anything" in the near future?
22:52 psydroid4; if that is the case I'm screwed and many others, because that is about the most powerful hardware I have
22:52 XRevan86; psydroid4: That is pretty new.
22:53 psydroid4; from 2016
22:53 XRevan86; psydroid4: My laptop is from 2012.
22:53 TR News; #LinuxMagazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159764 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:53 TR Bot; Linux Magazine | Tux Machines
22:54 psydroid4; but I mainly use this laptop with a Celeron N3060 and 8 GB of RAM from 2017
22:55 TR News; "Weve been covering 3D printer hacking since the dinosaurs were roaming. This is the oldest, and still one of the strangest, posts that we could find in a quick search. Anyone care to find something older?" https://hackaday.com/2021/12/31/3d-printering-adding-a-web-interface-where-there-was-none-before/
22:55 TR Bot; Printering: Adding A Web Interface Where There Was None Before | Hackaday
23:02 TR News; Threaded Wires Save Phone Numbers | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/30/threaded-wires-save-phone-numbers/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/31/#latest
23:02 TR Bot; Wires Save Phone Numbers | Hackaday
23:02 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
23:02 TR News; A Tidy Cyberdeck That You Could Take Anywhere Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159765 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:02 TR Bot; A Tidy Cyberdeck That You Could Take Anywhere | Tux Machines
23:03 psydroid4; XRevan86, that powerful laptop was my first new one in 15 years after my previous one from 2002 died
23:04 XRevan86; psydroid4: That's a genuine antique.
23:04 psydroid4; I used it until 2012
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:52] <psydroid4> XRevan86, do you see a Core i7-6700HQ with 32 GB of RAM not being sufficient to "run practically anything" in the near future?
23:07 schestowitz-TR; "crypto"
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23:08 tech_exorcist; happy new year, utc+1!
23:09 psydroid4; happy new year, (utc+1)+!
23:09 schestowitz-TR; 0/
23:10 schestowitz-TR; herp derp gnu here
23:10 *schestowitz-TR sips old wine
23:11 psydroid4; free wine
23:11 psydroid4; for everyone
23:15 schestowitz-TR; free as in freedom
23:15 schestowitz-TR; not free W.I.N.E.
23:16 TR News; Behold, the Deepest-Dwelling #Squid Known to Science | Hakai Magazine https://hakaimagazine.com/news/behold-the-deepest-dwelling-squid-known-to-science/ #hakaimagazine | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/31/#latest
23:16 TR Bot; Behold, the Deepest-Dwelling Squid Known to Science | Hakai Magazine
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23:19 MinceR; happy new year, mortals
23:19 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159766 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:19 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:20 XRevan86; MinceR: Either two hours late (for me) or one hour early (internationally) :)
23:20 MinceR; it's 0:20 here
23:20 MinceR; (CET)
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23:20 schestowitz-TR; mortal wombats
23:20 XRevan86; MinceR: So congratulating yourself? :D
23:20 psydroid4; now that makes me think of something else, such as mortality freaks
23:20 MinceR; no
23:20 XRevan86; MinceR: Happy New Year, by the way
23:20 MinceR; we didn't even know when it was 0:00 because my mother insists on relying on TV even though hungarian TV is absolute shit
23:21 psydroid4; Now we must kill Bill!
23:21 schestowitz-TR; happy 0010 000 0010 0010 MinceR
23:21 psydroid4; figuratively speaking
23:22 psydroid4; as is Dutch TV
23:22 schestowitz-TR; fourbitistan forbits 8 bits
23:22 TR News; 4 metrics to measure sustainable open source investments. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159767 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:22 TR Bot; 4 metrics to measure sustainable open source investments. | Tux Machines
23:29 TR News; Header Guards C++ https://linuxhint.com/header-guards-in-c/ #programming
23:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/header-guards-in-c/
23:29 TR Bot; Header Guards C++
23:30 TR News; Highlights from 2021 - Adventures in Linux and #KDE https://pointieststick.com/2021/12/31/highlights-from-2021/ #pointieststick
23:30 TR Bot; Highlights from 2021 Adventures in Linux and KDE
23:33 TR News; Use basegfx to convert angle unit EasyHack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159768 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:33 TR Bot; Use basegfx to convert angle unit EasyHack | Tux Machines
23:34 TR News; David REVOY: Happy New Year 2022! https://www.davidrevoy.com/article888/2022
23:34 TR Bot; 2022 - David Revoy
23:36 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 247.09
23:36 MinceR; crybullies don't deserve happy years
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23:55 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: inow what you refer to, MinceR
23:56 schestowitz-TR; but he was mostly passive
23:56 schestowitz-TR; he had just presented in klibreplanet
23:56 MinceR; not passive enough
23:56 schestowitz-TR; man who draw sexy underage girl complains about RMS views
23:59 psydroid4; those fireworks nowadays sound more like bombs
23:59 psydroid4; they're still going at it at 1 am
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