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00:22 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/23/morning-funny-pic-dump-6-23-22/
00:22 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
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02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250622.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-250622.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-250622.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-250622.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:00 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/in-1st-year-covid-19-vaccines-saved-20m-lives-scientists-say/
03:00 TR Bot; In 1st year, COVID-19 vaccines saved 20M lives, scientists say | WGN-TV
03:00 DaemonFC; "The London scientists excluded China because of uncertainty around the pandemics effect on deaths there and its huge population."
03:00 DaemonFC; The Communists lie and say it's not a problem and have a fake vaccine.
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04:01 schestowitz-TR; [03:00] <DaemonFC> The Communists lie and say it's not a problem and have a fake vaccine.
04:01 schestowitz-TR; not just China
04:01 schestowitz-TR; and not just"Communists"
04:04 TR News; A Day at Faslane gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/peacecamp_protest.gmi
04:05 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D624.jpg
04:05 TR News; 2022-06-25 Locrian.Zone: THE SEA RAIDERS added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Raiders.gmi
04:06 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, June 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:06 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:06 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:06 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:13 TR News; "Tmux is a great program if you need everything it does, but it seriously does a lot luckily there are programs like MPROCS which take small pieces of what Tmux offers without all of the stuff I don't need." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WHajHA2ilpE
04:13 TR Bot; MPROCS Offers The Best TMUX Feature Minus The Bloat - Invidious
04:13 TR News; Better export and delete. GitHub is a prison run by the criminals (Microsoft). http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26576/backup-all-starred-repositories-from-github
04:13 TR Bot; Backup all starred repositories from Github Using grep, xargs
04:14 TR News; How to Use tree to Show a Directory Tree in the Linux Terminal https://www.makeuseof.com/use-tree-to-show-directory-tree-linux/ Source: makeuseof
04:14 TR Bot; How to Use tree to Show a Directory Tree in the Linux Terminal
04:15 TR News; Trying to recycle CoreOS to pretend it's not just a dead brand https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/OSHZEHWTYSACVKJEPLVL2EVJ3GDY3AE2/
04:15 TR Bot; F37 change proposal: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide change) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
04:16 TR News; A roundup of this past weeks EPO coverage at Techrights, based mostly on internal documents/publications http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/most-corrupt-patent-office/
04:16 TR Bot; The Past Week at EPO, Europes Most Corrupt Patent Office | Techrights
04:17 TR News; Shotcut 22.06 Video Editor Brings Glaxnimate Support, Keyframes Expansion, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166487
04:17 TR Bot; Shotcut 22.06 Video Editor Brings Glaxnimate Support, Keyframes Expansion, and More | Tux Machines
04:18 TR News; My viewpoint on how Gemini communities can encourage more people not only to join Geminispace (Gemini has just made it into Linux Magazine) but also to stay there http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/making-geminispace-better/
04:18 TR Bot; Making Gemini Better and Helping It Grow Even Faster | Techrights
04:18 TR News; The imposter EPO President Antnio Campinos loves having his scripted fireside chats during Christmas; now in summertime he struggles to show any signs of peace because its crystal clear that the EPO has set fire to the EPC and work atmosphere is up in flames http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/epo-fireside-chat/
04:18 TR Bot; [Meme] Fireside Chat With EPO Management | Techrights
04:20 TR News; eBPF - Understanding How It Works https://blog.sofiane.cc/eBPFunderstanding/ Source: sofiane
04:20 TR Bot; eBPF - Understanding How It Works
04:23 TR News; 'Untold Stories of Open Source' outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software (don't miss the irony!) https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/06/25/0041218/new-linux-foundation-podcast-untold-stories-of-open-source
04:23 TR Bot; New Linux Foundation Podcast: 'Untold Stories of Open Source' - Slashdot
04:24 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166488
04:24 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
04:24 TR News; 203: Linus Torvalds at Open Source Summit, Manjaro 21.3, AMD, KDE, Steam Summer Sale and more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-203/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
04:24 TR Bot; Linus Torvalds at Open Source Summit, Manjaro 21.3, AMD, KDE, Steam Summer Sale and more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
04:33 TR News; More surveillance in the home (it usually sends data back from the so-called 'phone') https://staceyoniot.com/how-use-both-hue-bulbs-and-lutron-switches-in-your-smart-home/
04:33 TR Bot; How use both Hue bulbs and Lutron switches in your smart home - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
04:34 TR News; Perrottets land tax: how does it work and what will it do? - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/perrottets-land-tax-how-does-it-work-and-what-will-it-do/ Source: michaelwest
04:34 TR Bot; Perrottet's land tax: how does it work and what will it do? - Michael West
04:35 TR News; Charting Kaggles growth to 10 million users | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/charting-kaggles-growth-to-10-million-users/ Source: r-ers
04:35 TR Bot; Kaggles growth to 10 million users | R-bloggers
04:35 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: MPROCS, Linus Torvalds, and Linux Foundation Outsourcing to Microsoft Proprietary Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166489
04:35 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: MPROCS, Linus Torvalds, and Linux Foundation Outsourcing to Microsoft Proprietary Software | Tux Machines
04:38 TR News; Ocean view property with carpark views? Exciting ASX float a tough sell, then theres title - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/ocean-view-property-with-carpark-views-exciting-asx-float-a-tough-sell-then-theres-title/ Source: michaelwest
04:38 TR Bot; Ocean view property with carpark views? Exciting ASX float a tough sell, then there's title - Michael West
04:58 TR News; ZDNet moved to the "infinite scroll" (JavaScript) BS, so it is harder demonstrate the site's death based on posting volume in monthly archives
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05:29 TR News; After Gulag killed everything from RT this interview with RMS needed to be re-uploaded https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7mTcuIXaiP8
05:29 TR Bot; Keiser Report Happy Hacking! ft Richard Stallman E344 480p hls - Invidious
05:34 TR News; Mobile phones are Stalin's dream https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cfmeJL4Ly5k
05:34 TR Bot; Mobile phones are Stalin's dream - Invidious
05:35 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/vkiohg/chinas_mass_stabbing_crisis_2021_china_has_seen_a/
05:36 TR Bot; China's Mass Stabbing Crisis (2021) - China has seen a huge surge in public knife attacks, often targeting children. [00:16:21] : Documentaries
05:40 DaemonFC; I don't get why you'd just randomly kill people who haven't wronged you.
05:40 DaemonFC; Like, no list of any particular grievances, just they go to a mall and stab people.
05:40 DaemonFC; And it doesn't get covered because Communists.
05:40 DaemonFC; And these knife attacks kill as many people as the average "mass shooting", but it's knives so who cares?
05:41 DaemonFC; You can't go off brand. Knives don't kill people. Only guns do.
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05:55 schestowitz_TR; knives cannot kill as efficiency
05:55 schestowitz_TR; *at same
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06:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Tell that to those four dead people that got knived in Huntington by Illinois Man the other day down the street from mom's house.
06:02 DaemonFC; Almost everyone in town has a gun, and he caused the first murder (four of them at once) in the city since 2001 with a knife.
06:03 DaemonFC; They caught the bastard. He came to the wrong state to do that shit.
06:03 DaemonFC; Indiana has prisons and the death sentence, and he's gonna get one of them.
06:03 DaemonFC; Sad to say that Illinois doesn't use its prisons and doesn't have the death sentence for these folks.
06:04 DaemonFC; The city is open carry and there's a gun shop at Walmart, and nobody in Indiana needs a permit.
06:04 DaemonFC; Somehow the city goes 21 years without a murder until Illinois Man comes over and takes out a family of 4 with a knife.
06:05 mjg59_; Huh almost everyone in town had a gun but they didn't stop a bad guy who didn't have a gun?
06:05 DaemonFC; Because that one family didn't have one.
06:06 DaemonFC; Should have had one.
06:06 DaemonFC; There's always those people that go "This is a safe town away from this liberal shit pits like Chicago, and I'll probably be fine." and then they aren't.
06:06 DaemonFC; *those
06:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_, The reason lots of people have guns there and it hasn't turned into a free for all. Well, I'll let you work that out with your keen powers of observation.
06:07 DaemonFC; *Dangles fingers in SJW*
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06:09 DaemonFC; Small towns away from major cities, where they tell people to get up off their ass and earn what they've got, and where it's well known people can and will defend themselves, do not have huge crime problems, in general.
06:09 DaemonFC; It's just a fact. An inescapable fact.
06:10 DaemonFC; Unless you call "crime" some guy smoking pot with the curtains drawn, or the occasional DUI, but I mean, murder is almost unheard of in a lot of these towns.
06:11 DaemonFC; It's the kind of place where the police respond to cats stuck in a tree, not some crackhead raping someone and then setting the L on fire.
06:12 mjg59_; I mean yeah statistically the smaller a community is the lower the probability it contains someone who'll do that sort of thing
06:13 DaemonFC; Well, you obviously can't work out statistics I suppose.
06:16 DaemonFC; If Huntington had the crime statistics of Chicago at scale, then there would be 5 murders per year and 16 people being shot non-fatally.
06:17 DaemonFC; In 2020, Huntington had 0 murders and 0 gun injuries unless you count a guy who got shot in the leg out in the county who ended up being taken to the town hospital, where he lived. He accidentally shot himself.
06:18 DaemonFC; So, I mean, that's safer than Chicago. Unless you shoot yourself in the ass, I guess.
06:18 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: I have a draft that is on topic
06:18 schestowitz_TR; wannna see?
06:19 schestowitz_TR; it's about mobile phones
06:19 DaemonFC; If Huntington (city) had Chicago gun crime statistics, 100 people would have been killed in just the last 20 years, guns alone.
06:19 DaemonFC; In reality, it was the four knife victims and the DEA agent in 2001 that got burned on a bed soaked in gasoline.
06:19 DaemonFC; So we could call that like 4-5% as dangerous as Chicago.
06:20 DaemonFC; Because to get to the DEA agent, you have to go back more than 20 years now.
06:20 DaemonFC; Call it 4%.
06:20 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR> wannna see?
06:20 DaemonFC; Sure.
06:21 DaemonFC; Indiana isn't so openly corrupt and disgusting that they would have a state holiday over an S&M museum.
06:21 schestowitz_TR; just hang on while it is uploading
06:21 DaemonFC; In fact, while Chicago puts sex toys in the windows of a sex shop 20 feet from a children's park, Huntington County, Indiana has an ordinance that makes it illegal to open one in the county.
06:22 DaemonFC; It puts so many regulations as to where you could open one that while you could open one somewhere, you'd still need a permit that they won't approve.
06:24 DaemonFC; Parents shouldn't have to deal with the shit that goes on in Chicago. Perverts and murderers near a park.
06:24 DaemonFC; But that's the Democrats for you.
06:25 DaemonFC; Around these parts, the judges just let them out after 45 days in county.
06:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I'm starting to wonder if Rick Jones was barely slapped on the wrist because Gates got involved, or if the courts in Seattle just work like they do in Chicago.
06:27 DaemonFC; https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2022/6/24/23181382/shootings-homicides-chicago-june
06:27 TR Bot; 17-year-old boy among 3 people killed by gunfire in Chicago Thursday, two 13-year-old boys among 13 others wounded - Chicago Sun-Times
06:28 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Let's just say it's worth having a gun in the house.
06:29 DaemonFC; The liberal media doesn't like running stories about FOID card holders who shoot and kill a bad guy or hold them there until the cops arrive.
06:29 DaemonFC; What are you going to do when someone breaks into your house and you have nothing to fight them off with?
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:31 DaemonFC; The cops in my town didn't even bother to stop the looters and rioters two years ago.
06:31 DaemonFC; They just stood there and watched.
06:31 DaemonFC; JB Pritzker should have activated the National Guard and told them to shoot looters on sight.
06:32 DaemonFC; The police lost control of the situation immediately and had no backup from the Illinois National Guard because the governor is a Democrat.
06:37 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/
06:37 TR Bot; Rogan and Richard Stallman: What Mobile Phones Really Are | Techrights
06:42 TR News; Being A Confident Pedestrian gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1035
06:42 TR News; Rogan and Richard Stallman: What Mobile Phones Really Are | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/
06:52 DaemonFC; Looks okay.
06:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, T-Mobile is now selling app data about their customers.
06:53 schestowitz_TR; of course they do
06:53 DaemonFC; Even if the apps themselves don't collect it.
06:53 schestowitz_TR; and more of it over time
06:53 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: draft
06:53 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/
06:53 TR Bot; Richard Stallman Interview Removed by Google (Because He Was on RT) | Techrights
06:55 TR News; Richard Stallman Interview Removed by Google (Because He Was on RT) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/
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07:00 DaemonFC; Looks okay.
07:01 DaemonFC; Heh, YouTube
07:05 AdmFubar; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/westinghouse-ap-federal-trade-commission-washington-americans-b2107960.html
07:05 TR Bot; Fix the Hog: Harley, Westinghouse ordered to fix warranties | The Independent
07:06 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166490
07:06 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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08:14 psydruid; https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1820621
08:14 TR Bot;
08:17 schestowitz; :-)
08:17 schestowitz; "India launches Digital India RISC-V (DIR-V) program for next generation Microprocessors to achieve commercial silicon & Design wins by December'2023"
08:17 schestowitz; ASPX... some IF number
08:17 schestowitz; stay classy
08:17 schestowitz; *ID number
08:18 schestowitz; no support for permalinks or some kind
08:18 schestowitz; "dude, just use the primary key!"
08:18 schestowitz; it's a potential security issue
08:26 TR News; This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/lf-disinformation-ploy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/lf-disinformation-ploy/
08:26 TR Bot; This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin | Techrights
08:30 TR News; "This capsule is now self-hosted on an ESP32 development board (ESP32-DevKitC V4) connected to a phone charger and Wi-Fi." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/self-hosting-on-esp32.gmi
08:35 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166491
08:35 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:42 TR News; "Famously, one difference between HDDs and SSDs is that SSDs have limits on how much data you can write to them" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/SSDWriteLimitsCanMatter | Source: uni Toronto
08:42 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/SSDWriteLimitsCanMatter
08:42 TR News; "details" element https://css-tricks.com/quick-reminder-that-details-summary-is-the-easiest-way-ever-to-make-an-accordion/ | Source: CSS Tricks
08:42 TR Bot; Reminder that Details/Summary is the Easiest Way Ever to Make an Accordion | CSS-Tricks - CSS-Tricks
08:42 TR News; "My goals can be broken down into two parts. First, what types of IO (input/output) to support" https://jpieper.com/2022/06/24/beginnings-of-more-flexible-encoder-and-i-o-support/ | Source: J Pieper
08:42 TR Bot; Beginnings of more flexible encoder and I/O support | A Modicum of Fun
08:43 TR News; "Circuit diagrams play a vital role in the design process for any electronics project." https://www.makeuseof.com/free-schematic-drawing-software-arduino-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Make Use Of
08:43 TR Bot; Where to Find Free Schematic Drawing Software for Arduino, Raspberry Pi, and Other SBCs
08:43 TR News; "While Mac and Windows computers tend to dominate the discussions, Linux laptops deserve your consideration." https://www.popsci.com/gear/best-linux-laptops/ | Source: Popular Science
08:43 TR Bot; Best Linux laptops of 2022 | Popular Science
08:44 TR News; "Not one to dismiss feedback lightly, I decided to actually test pretty much every program mentioned in these email responses" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/notepadqq.html | Source: Dedoimedo
08:44 TR Bot; Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten
08:45 TR News; "My talk at AppDevCon discussed the Requirements Trifecta but turned it into a Quadrinella" https://www.sicpers.info/2022/06/more-detail-on-software-requirements/ | Source: SICP
08:45 TR Bot; More detail on software requirements | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers
08:45 TR News; "Some examples of sequencing across different disciplines" https://matt-rickard.com/sequencing/ | Source: Matt Rickard
08:45 TR Bot; Sequencing
08:45 TR News; "Blockchains have significantly different constraints, security properties, and resource requirements than traditional data storage" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/06/24/managing-risk-in-blockchain-deployments/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
08:45 TR Bot; Managing risk in blockchain deployments | Trail of Bits Blog
08:46 TR News; "This walkthrough of the fundamentals of shell programming with Z shell (Zsh) and Bourne Again SHell (BASH) includes a comparison of similar components and features in R and RStudio." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/shell-vs-r-fundamentals-from-syntax-to-control-structures-with-zsh-bash/ | Source: Rlang
08:46 TR Bot; vs R Fundamentals From Syntax to Control Structures with Zsh & BASH | R-bloggers
08:47 TR News; "Right now, platforms have an easy answer to threats: Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/25/23181689/online-abortion-information-ban-roe-wade-section-230-first-amendment | Source: The Verge
08:47 TR Bot; The brewing fight to keep abortion info online - The Verge
08:49 TR News; "For several years now, Minecraft has been split into two versions." https://gamerant.com/minecraft-chat-moderation-changes-microsoft-backlash/ | Source: Game Rant
08:49 TR Bot; Microsoft Receives Backlash Over Minecraft Moderation Changes
08:49 TR News; Proprietary crap: "To accomodate the chat reporting system, chat messages are now signed using the user's keypair." https://blog.bithole.dev/mc-report.html | Source: Adriaan Zhang
08:49 TR Bot; A Deep Dive into Minecraft 1.19.1's Report System
08:50 TR News; Microsoft just bought Minecraft to control (*manipulate) children. For more information ask Bill Gate and his BFF Jeffrey Epstein. They know all about kids....
08:54 TR News; "head of Microsoft Philanthropies" = head of a crime syndicate disguised as a charity, much like the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/3-5-million-cyber-security-jobs-will-open-up-by-2025/92447785 | Source: India Times
08:54 TR Bot; 3.5 Million Cyber Security Jobs Will Open Up By 2025, CIO News, ET CIO
08:54 TR News; Unlike corrupt EPO... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3665054/cisco-announces-plan-to-exit-russia-and-belarus.html | Source: Network World
08:54 TR Bot; Cisco announces plan to exit Russia and Belarus | Network World
08:55 TR News; "Mediaphiles have had years to cope with the imminent demise of the Plex Media Player." https://www.androidpolice.com/plex-media-player-home-theater-pc-player/ | Source: Android Police
08:55 TR Bot; After years of delay, Plex replaces its desktop media player client
08:58 TR News; "If youre scratching your head on why thats necessary, Mullvad explains in a blog post (spotted by TechRadar)." https://www.pcworld.com/article/794377/mullvad-vpn-ditches-subscriptions-to-protect-user-privacy.html | Source: PC World
08:58 TR Bot; VPN ditches subscriptions to protect your privacy even more | PCWorld
08:58 TR News; "A House subpanel on consumer protection approved a comprehensive data privacy bill, advancing the legislation to the full committee." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/overnights/3535277-hillicon-valley-data-privacy-bill-inches-forward-in-house/ | Source: The Hill
08:58 TR Bot; Hillicon Valley Data privacy bill inches forward in House | The Hill
08:58 TR News; "The flash drive also contained sensitive information including tax details, bank account names and numbers, and information on households receiving public assistance such as childcare payments." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/24/asia/japan-amagasaki-usb-data-intl-hnk/index.html | Source: CNN
08:58 TR Bot; Japan: Man loses USB flash drive with data on entire Amagasaki city's residents after night out - CNN
08:58 TR News; "It may sound like a crazy far-fetched dystopian claim, but its todays reality." https://itwire.com/science-news/health/eff-cybersecurity-head-warns-us-women-to-delete-their-period-tracking-apps-in-post-roe-v-wade-world.html | Source: IT Wire
08:59 TR Bot; - EFF cybersecurity head warns US women to delete their period tracking apps in post Roe v. Wade world
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
09:08 TR News; "Several mayors in Europe have been contacted by a fake mayor of Kyiv who has been saying absurd things" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/european-mayors-duped-calls-fake-kyiv-mayor-85700329 | Source: ABC
09:08 TR Bot; European mayors duped into calls with fake Kyiv mayor - ABC News
09:08 TR News; "Unfortunately, a minority of doctors seem to have recently obtained an outsized voice through the use of social [control] media" https://www.salon.com/2022/06/25/state-legislatures-are-effectively-helping-rogue-doctors-spread-misinformation/ | Source: Salon
09:08 TR Bot; legislatures are effectively helping rogue doctors spread misinformation | Salon.com
09:14 TR News; Minnesota farmers take the L on right to repair; heres why. Im sorry, I tried https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/minnesota-farmers-take-the-l-on-right-to:0 Source: rossmanngroup
09:14 TR Bot; Minnesota farmers take the L on right to repair; here's why. I'm sorry, I tried
09:14 TR News; Microsoft layoffs https://www.govtech.com/products/microsoft-layoffs-signal-a-changing-culture.html blocked by javascript
09:14 TR Bot; Microsoft Layoffs Signal a Changing Culture
09:14 TR News; "Cons: Intel UHD 620 graphics dont support gaming well" https://www.popsci.com/gear/best-linux-laptops/ that is their disadvantage in the category "work" :/
09:15 TR News; So-called 'open source' https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/open-source-software-bugs--attackability
09:15 TR Bot; Only 3% of Open Source Software Bugs Are Actually Attackable, Researchers Say
09:15 TR News; Famous criminal who enables child sex trafficking... owns your farmland? https://nypost.com/2022/06/23/bill-gates-purchase-of-north-dakota-farmland-has-locals-livid-official/
09:15 TR Bot; Bill Gates' purchase of North Dakota farmland has locals 'livid': official
09:17 TR News; Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61938111 Source: BillBC, which covered up for Jimmy Savile and now does the same for Jeffrey Esptein's enabler Bill Gates while taking bribes from him
09:17 TR Bot; Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles - BBC News
09:17 TR News; Microsoft is the REASON this is happenin.? Why does VICE treat the CULPRIT as the EXPERT? https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgyzqj/microsoft-compares-russian-hacks-of-ukraine-to-assassination-that-started-world-war-i
09:17 TR Bot; Microsoft Compares Russian Hacks of Ukraine to Assassination That Started World War I
09:18 TR News; the REAL reason employers cant find workers in 2022 https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-real-reason-employers-can't-find:4 Source: rossmanngroup perpetuating the myth of lack of workers??
09:18 TR Bot; the REAL reason employers can't find workers in 2022
09:19 TR News; Why does a famous criminal who has strong connections to child sex trafficking find it possible to do this? Are authorities OK with it? https://www.agweek.com/business/entity-linked-to-billionaire-bill-gates-pays-13-5-million-for-campbell-farms-north-dakota-farmland
09:19 TR Bot; linked to billionaire Bill Gates pays $13.5 million for Campbell Farms' North Dakota farmland - Agweek | #1 source for agriculture news, farming, markets
09:20 TR News; "The Pixhawk 6X is based on the Pixhawk FMUv6x Open Standard and the Pixhawk Autopilot Bus Standard." https://linuxgizmos.com/holybros-unveil-pixhawk-6x-and-pixhawk-6c-flight-controllers/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
09:20 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/holybros-unveil-pixhawk-6x-and-pixhawk-6c-flight-controllers/ )
09:21 TR News; "New Ipsos research carried out on behalf of Italian anti-piracy group FAPAV reveals that 43% of the adult population engaged in some type of audiovisual piracy [sic] in 2021" https://torrentfreak.com/movie-tv-pirates-increase-in-italy-but-they-are-pirating-less-than-ever-220625/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:21 TR Bot; & TV Pirates Increase in Italy But They Are Pirating Less Than Ever * TorrentFreak
09:21 TR News; "Theres a schadenfreude going around when it comes to Julian Assange." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/the-assange-animus-and-the-spy-trial-ahead/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:21 TR Bot; Assange Animus and the Spy Trial Ahead scheerpost.com
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 TR News; Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166492
09:30 TR Bot; Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:30 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 25, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/irc-log-250622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/irc-log-250622/
09:30 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 25, 2022 | Techrights
09:31 TR News; "digital authoritarianism" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3664078/theres-just-one-thing-businesses-can-do-about-the-splinternet-adapt.html | Source: Computer World
09:31 TR Bot; just one thing businesses can do about the splinternet adapt | Computerworld
09:31 TR News; "Netflix's first-quarter revenue call in April revealed slowing revenue growth" https://text.npr.org/1107360500 | Source: NPR
09:31 TR Bot; Netflix lays off several hundred more employees
09:32 TR News; Patents lunacy. "The US patent office has rewarded somebody else with the patent on Hangprinter." https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-hangprinter-free |
09:32 TR Bot; Fundraiser by Torbjrn Ludvigsen : Help Keep Hangprinter Free
09:33 TR News; "It calls for a temporary restraining order on the proposed MetaDoor platform, which has been set up as a direct competitor to WorldCat" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/claws-out-worldcat-sues-clarivate-over-plan-rival-platform | Source: Times Higher Education
09:33 TR Bot; WorldCat sues Clarivate over Metadoor plan | Times Higher Education (THE)
09:34 TR News; [Old] "Those who willingly share papers are, in most cases, breaking copyright laws." https://qz.com/528526/academics-have-found-a-way-to-access-insanely-expensive-research-papers-for-free/ | Source: Quartz
09:34 TR Bot; Academics have found a way to access insanely expensive research papersfor free Quartz
09:34 TR News; [Old] "requesting access to journal articles and books via colleagues and authors is a long-established academic practice" https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/jchla/index.php/jchla/article/view/26060/20281 |
09:34 TR Bot; View of Scholarly Sharing via Twitter: #icanhazpdf Requests for Health Sciences Literature | Journal of the Canadian Health Libraries Association / Journal de l'Association des bibliothques de la sant du Canada
09:34 TR News; Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/the-assange-case-international-solidarity-and-implications-for-press-freedom-globally/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
09:34 TR Bot; The Assange case: International solidarity and implications for press freedom globally - Don't Extradite Assange
09:36 TR News; feeling alone again gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/feeling-alone-again "I broke up with her over 6 months ago. I'm glad I did because I'm a lot more honest with myself now, but sometimes I miss her , or not her but being in a relationship"
09:37 TR News; "I'm planning to buy a new tablet/2 in 1 soon, that should be powerful enough for me to play with various types of software (let it be video editing softwares or the tty, games aren't a requirement), as well as install Linux in i" gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random2
09:41 TR News; The target audience for the "Microsoft loves Linux" lie isn't geeks. They know it's a lie. They know Microsoft is a big bunch of criminals. But Microsoft wants some young or non-technical people to think it is acceptable to like "Linux" and at the same time pay [1] the crime syndicate (Microsoft). Which HURTS Linux. [1] Or let is host a site, or code, or sell some physical peripheral...
09:42 TR News; Inflation Sparks Global Wave of Protests https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/inflation-sparks-global-wave-of-protests-for-higher-pay-aid/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:42 TR Bot; Sparks Global Wave of Protests for Higher Pay, Aid scheerpost.com
09:43 TR News; US Labor Organizers https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/can-workers-overseas-provide-tips-for-us-labor-organizers/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:43 TR Bot; Workers Overseas Provide: Tips for US Labor Organizers? scheerpost.com
09:46 TR News; Yesterday I went up to the Embedded World trade fair in Nuremburg, Germany" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/25/hacker-diary-embedded-world-2022/ | Source: Hackaday
09:46 TR Bot; Diary: Embedded World 2022 | Hackaday
09:51 TR News; The media fails to calls this a Jihadi attack https://truthout.org/articles/oslo-cancels-pride-parade-after-mass-shooting-at-gay-bar/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/25/hate-crime-oslo-pride-parade-canceled-after-deadly-shooting-gay-bar https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1932791.html
09:51 TR Bot; Oslo Cancels Pride Parade After Mass Shooting at Gay Club
09:51 TR Bot; 'A Hate Crime': Oslo Pride Parade Canceled After Deadly Shooting at Gay Bar
09:51 TR Bot; RTL Today - Norway: Two killed, 21 wounded in Oslo terror attack
09:52 TR News; So-Called Free Trade https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/25/continuing-damages-corporate-managed-so-called-free-trade | Source: Common Dreams
09:52 TR Bot; Opinion | The Continuing Damages From Corporate-Managed So-Called Free Trade | Ralph Nader
09:59 TR News; NASA https://hackaday.com/2022/06/25/nasa-called-they-want-their-cockroaches-back/ | Source: Hackaday
09:59 TR Bot; Called, They Want Their Cockroaches Back | Hackaday
10:03 TR News; The worst attacks have come from Jihadis so far https://truthout.org/articles/bigoted-attacks-are-injecting-fear-into-pride-month-but-we-wont-back-down/ | Source: TruthOut
10:03 TR Bot; Bigoted Attacks Are Injecting Fear Into Pride Month, But We Wont Back Down
10:18 TR News; Download YouTube Videos with VLC (Because, Why Not?) https://itsfoss.com/download-youtube-videos-vlc/ Source: ItsFOSS | GNU | Linux | Freesw
10:18 TR Bot; Download YouTube Videos with VLC (Because, Why Not?)
10:18 *matey (~matey@n2qpw3v9yas46.irc) has joined #techrights
10:18 schestowitz_TR; gm
10:19 matey; i see the timeline is full of stallman today
10:20 TR News; "It's release day, sorta. Both libopenraw and Exempi got a new release within two days. Here is what's up." https://www.figuiere.net/hub/wlog/release-day/
10:20 TR Bot; Release day - Hubert Figuire
10:20 matey; and the lf is being its usual self if moreso
10:20 schestowitz_TR; gemini
10:20 schestowitz_TR; epo
10:20 schestowitz_TR; rms
10:21 schestowitz_TR; lf
10:21 matey; i dont suppose google has any legal obligation to remove rt videos does it?
10:21 schestowitz_TR; i don't think gulag specified
10:21 matey; i mean the sanctions havent gone that far, as far as i know
10:21 schestowitz_TR; it just banned rt, period
10:22 matey; well, maybe it will convince some people to leave youtube (probably not, but that would be cool)
10:22 matey; i used to have a youtube account
10:22 matey; every 6-12 monthts they would do something so fucked up i would delete it in protest
10:22 matey; then i wouldnt create a new one for a year or two
10:22 schestowitz_TR; yes, when did you dleete?
10:22 matey; the last time (this will date it of course) was when they rolled out country restrictions
10:22 schestowitz_TR; the worst f*ups were in recent years
10:23 schestowitz_TR; geoblocking was ages ago
10:23 matey; i considered it breaking the internet, and told them to go fuck themselves
10:23 schestowitz_TR; like 10 years?
10:23 matey; geoblocking was ages ago <- yes, and we met not long after that
10:24 matey; the quote in techrights (i dont know if it had changed yet or not, but it was about that time either way) is still there
10:24 schestowitz_TR; gulagtube does nto make money
10:24 matey; of course, you dont know what handle i used back then
10:24 schestowitz_TR; but I cannot prove it
10:24 schestowitz_TR; nobody can
10:24 schestowitz_TR; except few in MANAGMENT there
10:24 matey; gulagtube does nto make money but I cannot prove it <- i mean
10:24 matey; they make enough to pay top producers
10:24 matey; im not sure thats significant from a business standpoint
10:25 matey; i dont have an mba
10:25 matey; my best man did
10:25 matey; we kind of lost touch after i moved out of state, and hes not big on electronic communcation
10:25 matey; even as my best man id only known him for a couple years
10:26 matey; but i never did get back onto youtube
10:26 matey; they added the phone number thing, and thats a dealbreaker
10:27 matey; i think i made it through two steps of fool them with an online voicemail, and said "this is silly, no one should have to do this"
10:27 matey; you may think its funny that someone like me would have a youtube account at all
10:27 matey; i mean, did i make videos?
10:27 matey; i made playlists
10:28 matey; i got to play dj / librarian
10:28 matey; i talked to people on youtube
10:28 matey; i didnt leave a lot of comments though
10:28 matey; its been a long time but i think i mostly talked in profiles, if that was even a thing
10:28 TR News; Phoronix continues jumping the shark. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CBL-Mariner-2.0-June-2022
10:28 TR Bot; CBL-Mariner 2.0 Linux Distro Now Supports Kernel Live Patching, PXE Boot - Phoronix
10:29 matey; i could be conflating that with some other online service
10:30 matey; my playlists wouldnt include songs that couldnt be embedded in a website
10:30 matey; if i found those i would remove them
10:31 matey; the result though was that you could watch a string of videos that fit together nicely, or on a theme
10:31 matey; and it made things that werent meme-ish or mainstream discoverable
10:32 matey; i really loved doing that, but today it just isnt the same
10:32 matey; i could have just listed urls on some website but i liked the playlist feature
10:33 matey; id consider doing the same on the internet archive but their interface is as much like treading on glue as the phoronix forums
10:33 matey; and its just a fucking pain to find anything (which does increase the value at least of people who work to do just that, but it makes it so tedious)
10:34 schestowitz_TR; nowadays the phoronix forums can be better han articles
10:34 matey; kahle at lieplanet is a farce, but everything about lieplanet is
10:34 matey; i dont think ia even uses free js
10:34 matey; and why not, its a non-profit based on the internet, kahle should know better
10:34 schestowitz_TR; his talk had technical issues
10:35 matey; i dont know if you mean it flickered or lost sound or contained points that contradicted facts
10:35 matey; the phrase is that broad
10:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166493
10:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:37 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166494
10:37 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:38 matey; lieplanet has technical issues
10:38 matey; its technically not about freedom
10:38 matey; they should call it fundraising planet, afaict
10:38 matey; i dont know if/how it affects the budget
10:39 matey; but its typical for non-profits to have fundraiser events, on top of membership drives
10:39 matey; i presume thats the niche lieplanet fills
10:39 matey; they also increase "awareness" (in the early part of a nonprofits life, for the cause-- in the latter part, for the org itself)
10:39 matey; "we still exist!"
10:39 schestowitz_TR; is has sponsors
10:39 matey; no you dont
10:39 schestowitz_TR; and they get thiongs in exchange for the sponsorship
10:40 matey; is has sponsors <- heh
10:40 schestowitz_TR; I compared that to LF 'lite'
10:40 matey; and they get thiongs in exchange for the sponsorship <- heh
10:40 matey; I compared that to LF 'lite' <- if the shoe fits
10:40 schestowitz_TR; atm, purism is one sponsor of fsf
10:40 schestowitz_TR; so even if purism does something wrong, fsf cannot talk about that
10:40 matey; or since these are tech people
10:40 matey; if the foo shits
10:40 schestowitz_TR; same for system while ibm and red hat paid
10:40 schestowitz_TR; but they won't admit this
10:40 schestowitz_TR; rms was careful about gulag
10:41 matey; purism is one sponsor of fsf <- thats just sad
10:41 schestowitz_TR; it was at one point biggest sponsor iirc
10:41 schestowitz_TR; they gave an award to one employee
10:41 schestowitz_TR; who boosted intel/microsoft 'secure' boot
10:41 matey; same for system while ibm and red hat paid <- yeah, i remember when we talked about that
10:41 matey; but it seems clear...
10:41 schestowitz_TR; which they had COMPLAINED about
10:41 schestowitz_TR; for over a year
10:41 matey; that even after funding is pulled
10:41 schestowitz_TR; while intel paid fsf
10:41 matey; the "gesture" (that is, self-censorship) remains
10:41 schestowitz_TR; all those sponsorships make a multidimensional space for speech
10:42 matey; so you can pay the fsf to NOT FIGHT for your freedom
10:42 schestowitz_TR; you need to memroise which company does what and whether it pays you and how much
10:42 matey; which imo is fraud, but i doubt the sec / ftc gives a shit
10:42 schestowitz_TR; before you utter a senstence
10:42 matey; i mean, it might be fraud on a moral level, they have legal people to figure out what they can get away with
10:42 matey; all those sponsorships make a multidimensional space for speech <- you mean for censorship
10:43 matey; also, i think youre shoehorning all their failures into a single cause / factor
10:43 schestowitz_TR; PIA was the biggest FSF sponsor for a year
10:43 schestowitz_TR; while it ran freenode
10:43 matey; i dont believe sponsors are the only factor in their silence / uselessness / corruption / fecklessness
10:43 matey; of course we agree they play a major role
10:43 schestowitz_TR; it was hurt when FSF finally pulled the plug
10:43 schestowitz_TR; not to self-host
10:44 schestowitz_TR; FSF should promote freedom bymaking its own comms
10:44 matey; libera is still a mountainous turd of stalinist bullshit
10:44 schestowitz_TR; own mastodon
10:44 schestowitz_TR; own peertube (it has this)
10:44 schestowitz_TR; own jabber
10:44 schestowitz_TR; own irc
10:44 matey; FSF should promote freedom <- thats not what the fsf does anymore
10:44 matey; though if they did, that would be a good strategy
10:44 schestowitz_TR; not be controlled by liberaa staf that called on fsf to kick out its founder
10:44 matey; the problem with the fsf is
10:44 matey; first, they dont treat volunteers well.
10:45 matey; second, they are poached AND attacked by competitors and marketing trolls
10:45 matey; they make their own problems. then industry multiplies them.
10:45 matey; it isnt either/or
10:45 matey; maybe they could address their own problems
10:45 matey; industry is there to make sure that never happens
10:45 matey; note i said maybe-- not definitely
10:46 schestowitz_TR; because they are a target
10:46 schestowitz_TR; mayb e youm cna emphatise more
10:46 schestowitz_TR; or sympathise
10:46 matey; and i mean it in the past tense, not present or ffuture
10:46 matey; theyre done
10:46 matey; as in steak
10:46 schestowitz_TR; vegan
10:46 matey; i sympathised for years
10:46 matey; i gave money to them
10:46 matey; they shit on users.
10:46 schestowitz_TR; so did we
10:46 matey; im all out of fucks to give
10:46 schestowitz_TR; no, they don;t
10:46 matey; YES
10:46 matey; THEY DO.
10:46 schestowitz_TR; they're being shat and sat on
10:46 schestowitz_TR; by IBM
10:46 matey; and you apologise for them
10:46 schestowitz_TR; by Intel
10:46 matey; its bullshit thought
10:46 schestowitz_TR; etc etc
10:47 matey; yeah well
10:47 matey; if they cant fight
10:47 schestowitz_TR; no, they're by far the LESSER evil
10:47 matey; and others can / do
10:47 schestowitz_TR; among the other orgs
10:47 schestowitz_TR; who would you support then?
10:47 matey; lesser evilism doesnt impress me at all
10:47 schestowitz_TR; look at the "proxies"
10:47 matey; its a canker on american "democracy"
10:47 schestowitz_TR; or approximates
10:47 schestowitz_TR; OSI? SFFE?
10:47 schestowitz_TR; far worse
10:47 schestowitz_TR; EFF, CC>..
10:47 matey; again, youre playing the same game as every american "election"
10:47 schestowitz_TR; so tell me, who to follow on SF?
10:48 schestowitz_TR; SFFI?
10:48 schestowitz_TR; FSFi?
10:48 matey; the alternative to bullshit isnt LESSER bullshit
10:48 schestowitz_TR; was it IFSF?
10:48 matey; roy, i know this will fall on deaf ears, thats why im comfortable saying it
10:48 matey; there IS another free software movement being built
10:48 matey; if i relocated to the moon, it would happen with or without me
10:48 schestowitz_TR; to make progress you need allies
10:49 matey; i happen to be involved
10:49 schestowitz_TR; by aliminating all possible allies as unworhty
10:49 schestowitz_TR; you lessen chance ofi progress
10:49 schestowitz_TR; not because of compromises
10:49 matey; you need allies <- just because you dont know who they are, doesnt mean they dont exist
10:49 schestowitz_TR; but because of weakness in numbers
10:49 schestowitz_TR; I tturned some enemies of TR into allies
10:49 matey; lessen chance ofi progres <- yeah, the perfect is the enemy of the good, etc
10:49 schestowitz_TR; over time
10:49 schestowitz_TR; and sometimes they get tugged away from corporate bribes
10:49 matey; this isnt a utopian deal
10:49 schestowitz_TR; like LF money
10:49 matey; they get tugged away from corporate bribe <- which is why anticapitalism is the only hope for free software (imo)
10:50 matey; free software (by definition) neednt be anticapitalist, per se
10:50 schestowitz_TR; I'd put it differently
10:50 matey; it just probably wont ever work without that
10:50 schestowitz_TR; not anticapitalism
10:50 matey; I'd put it differentl <- of course you would
10:50 matey; not anticapitalism <- mmhmm
10:50 schestowitz_TR; becaus eit's "too anti" :-)
10:50 schestowitz_TR; use a positive term
10:50 schestowitz_TR; like pro-sharing
10:50 matey; you tought "boycottnovell" was too anti!
10:50 schestowitz_TR; or commune
10:50 schestowitz_TR; etc etc.
10:50 schestowitz_TR; digital commune
10:50 matey; i still think thats hilarious
10:51 schestowitz_TR; I didn;'t chose the name botcott novell
10:51 schestowitz_TR; shane did
10:51 matey; i know that
10:51 schestowitz_TR; techrights was tracy'sname
10:51 matey; shane had the right idea
10:51 matey; i didnt hate the name techrights
10:51 matey; i liked that it was broader too
10:51 matey; but boycottnovell wasnt too negative
10:51 schestowitz_TR; RMS antagonised it gently
10:51 schestowitz_TR; as he thought it did not emphasise freedom
10:51 matey; boycotts are an important part of standing up to corporate bullies
10:52 matey; you probably think "killercoke.org" is too negative
10:52 schestowitz_TR; so we dded sentry.. he modeled it on JW's
10:52 matey; a website stallman promotes
10:52 matey; he modeled it on JW <- im sure even if he grabbed one idea
10:52 matey; it was NOT modeled on anything else of theirs
10:52 matey; theyre a cult that protects child rapists
10:52 schestowitz_TR; iirc, it isn a newsletter's name
10:52 matey; im not saying its their main feature, like some kind of epstein shit
10:52 schestowitz_TR; or somethign to thateaffect
10:53 matey; but even as a side effect thats pretty nasty
10:53 matey; obviously, the catholic church is just as bad about this
10:53 schestowitz_TR; mormons too
10:53 schestowitz_TR; novell
10:53 matey; it isn a newsletter's name <- not their publication is called the watchtower
10:53 matey; no, their ^{
10:53 schestowitz_TR; yeah
10:53 matey; obviously the "watchtower" isnt watching for child abuse
10:54 matey; they also split up families like the moonies
10:54 schestowitz_TR; I wonder what amish rms would look like
10:54 matey; but theyre WAY more mainstream
10:54 matey; you can find them on the sidewalks here
10:54 matey; i mean they had an amish computer, if you ever saw that
10:54 matey; i dont mean the lol one that ran on a chicken conveyor belt like a hamster wheel
10:55 schestowitz_TR; never saw that
10:55 schestowitz_TR; they should film it
10:55 matey; amish is a specrtrum
10:55 matey; the stricter ones dont use electricity but
10:55 matey; the main thing about the amish is staying off the grid
10:55 matey; no landline
10:55 matey; no electrical plants
10:55 schestowitz_TR; wood for heat?
10:55 matey; but some consider generators okay
10:55 matey; they use fuel
10:55 matey; wood is one kind
10:56 matey; some even use gmos, which i think is a terrible shame
10:56 matey; but thats not "on the grid"
10:56 matey; even if it sort of it
10:56 matey; the smuckers brand is from an amish family
10:56 schestowitz_TR; Pennsylvania gets very cold
10:56 schestowitz_TR; iirc, many have swiss roots... that's cold too
10:56 matey; some smuckers are still amish, others... the ones that have the company are hardly observant
10:57 matey; many have swiss roots <- i thought the whole point was they were "dutch" but i honestly dont know where they came from
10:57 matey; they remind me of roma, but i dont think thats their origins
10:57 matey; unless theyre some kind of dutch roma (i consider that farfetched)
10:58 schestowitz_TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
10:58 TR Bot; Amish - Wikipedia
10:58 schestowitz_TR; ""Swiss Amish", Amish America, Type pad, archived from the original on March 2, 2009, retrieved March 26, 2009.
10:58 schestowitz_TR; "
10:58 schestowitz_TR; https://web.archive.org/web/20090302035944/http://amishamerica.typepad.com/amish_america/swiss_amish/
10:58 TR Bot; Amish America: Swiss Amish
10:58 schestowitz_TR; Swiss Brethren
10:59 matey; https://amishamerica.com/an-amish-computer/
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
10:59 TR Bot; An Amish Computer?
10:59 schestowitz_TR; say they speak "Pennsylvania Dutch."
10:59 matey; yes, its an amish website
10:59 matey; they speak "Pennsylvania Dutch." <- thats why i think
10:59 schestowitz_TR; ""Contrary to popular belief, the word "Dutch" in "Pennsylvania Dutch" is not a mistranslation, but rather a corruption of the Pennsylvania German endonym Deitsch, which means "Pennsylvania Dutch / German" or "German"
10:59 matey; but maybe its just the language
10:59 schestowitz_TR; "Pennsylvania Dutch is 'one of a handful of minority languages in the United States that is neither endangered nor supported by continual arrivals of immigrants.'"
10:59 matey; yeah i knew it was close to german at least
10:59 schestowitz_TR; "
10:59 schestowitz_TR; The Amish largely share a German or Swiss-German ancestry"
10:59 schestowitz_TR; So I remembered correctlyt
11:00 matey; ahh, ok
11:00 matey; yeah, there it is
11:00 matey; id never heard that though
11:00 matey; and they make good solid furniture
11:00 schestowitz_TR; doiuble glazed
11:00 schestowitz_TR; double dutch
11:00 matey; a truck vs amish furnuture would be a fair fight
11:03 schestowitz_TR; who will win? stay tuned
11:05 matey; i honestly think the truck would win
11:06 matey; its only hyperbole to illustrate the quality of amish furniture
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11:06 matey; of which i own none, because i dont need furniture that makes a decent heirloom
11:06 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166495
11:06 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
11:07 matey; on the contrary, i look for things that make it easier to move
11:07 matey; ive been a bit unconventional (but imo practical) regarding furniture
11:07 TR News; The One True Way of teaching maths gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-06-26.gmi
11:08 matey; in japan they sit closer to the ground, the tables are lower
11:08 matey; at least, traditionally.
11:08 matey; i think they still do that, but i know theres more western influence now
11:08 TR News; "If youve been waffling back and forth on whether you want to, on net, have a /now/ page on your capsule, know that youre not alone." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~adiabatic/scrawlspace/
11:08 matey; its got to be a mix of things at this point
11:09 matey; asia is depressingly western sometimes, but its still distinctive in many regards
11:09 matey; and not everything about the west is worse either
11:09 schestowitz_TR; asia?
11:09 schestowitz_TR; asia where??
11:09 schestowitz_TR; asia is most of the world
11:09 matey; i was speaking broadly for a reason
11:10 matey; asia is most of the world <- and yet, not even all of russia
11:10 schestowitz_TR; asian mean "brown people" here
11:10 matey; if you say so
11:10 schestowitz_TR; *meaning
11:10 schestowitz_TR; indians, pakistanis, arabs...
11:10 schestowitz_TR; in uk : "asians"
11:10 matey; it may surprise you to know that indians consider themselves asian too
11:11 matey; its not just an exonym
11:11 matey; i know fewer pakistanis
11:11 schestowitz_TR; it's a connotion game
11:11 matey; not enough to get a good idea
11:12 matey; it's a connotion game <- you must have missed what i just said
11:12 schestowitz_TR; when some lebel is considered better you hijack it
11:12 matey; "its not just an exonym"
11:12 schestowitz_TR; like "bright" for atheists
11:12 matey; falling on deaf ears again
11:12 schestowitz_TR; they would not go by "gay"
11:12 matey; anyway, when youre referring to customs broadly common to a large region
11:13 matey; its not a "connotation" to refer to the whole region
11:13 matey; you dont say "sydney" when you mean the entirety of australia
11:13 matey; you dont say mexico when you mean north america
11:13 schestowitz_TR; words change meaning over time
11:13 schestowitz_TR; here, gypsy is no longer ethnic
11:13 matey; words change meaning over time <- i doubt that applies here
11:13 matey; gypsy is no longer ethni <- what makes you think so?
11:14 schestowitz_TR; travelers-> gypsies
11:14 matey; gypsy is an exonym-- some take it upon themselves but its still used as a slur
11:14 schestowitz_TR; they can be irish
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11:14 schestowitz_TR; not egyptian or romany
11:14 schestowitz_TR; brb
11:14 matey; im not 100% certain irish travellers are completely separate from roma origins
11:14 matey; also romani is a language, the people are more accurately referred to as roma
11:15 matey; but its mis/used commonly enough that not many will likely correct it
11:15 matey; when enough people get something wrong, it can (often does) enter the lexicon
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11:16 matey; im not 100% certain irish travellers are of roma origin, but im also not convinced they exist separately
11:17 matey; around 1500 years ago, they set out across the world (in different directions) and there is no unified/non-contradictory history of them
11:17 matey; its still being sorted out
11:18 matey; the links that have been made scientifically are cultural, linguistic and genetic
11:19 matey; earlier genetic studies were less specific, they found trends-- newer research is more detailed
11:19 matey; the linguistic findings are also telling
11:19 matey; imo cultural ethonographies provide hints and leads, at least
11:20 matey; for scientistsi mean
11:23 matey; Also (somewhat) like the cellphone, the computer has even affected the way some Amish communicatethere are a few Amish that use email, as Ive found as I continue to add to my (admittedly still meager) Amish email rolodex.
11:23 matey; https://amishamerica.com/an-amish-computer/
11:23 TR Bot; An Amish Computer?
11:25 matey; In general, the Amish are more willing to adopt new technology if they can justify it for business reasons and they can keep it out of the home.
11:26 matey; Amish Electricity, Living Off-Grid [Culture & Beliefs]
11:26 matey; www.electricrate.com/amish-electricity
11:26 matey; Way back in 2008, someone developed what was dubbed as the Amish computer. The machine is a basic word processor that came devoid of any features typical computers have. All it does is process documents and was touted as a machine made for plain people. From this, you can see that the Amish do use electricity in their homes.
11:26 matey; (some)
11:28 matey; The Amish are not allowed to own automobiles, and that is a rule they adhere to across all communities. The reason for this is that owning a car is a sign of status and could promote vanity and competition between members of the community. This is very much against the Amish values of modesty and the simple life. However, this doesnt mean that they are not allowed to use modern transport
11:28 matey; Theyre free to hop on trains and buses, even hiring taxis if necessary. The use of public transport is reserved for necessary business (including important social events such as weddings, funerals, barn-raisings, and auctions), with frivolous trips being highly discouraged.
11:28 matey; https://listverse.com/2015/05/24/10-modern-luxuries-the-amish-actually-use/
11:28 TR Bot; Modern Luxuries The Amish Actually Use - Listverse
11:28 matey; Biotechnology and the genetic modification of crops is perhaps the most modern farming technique one could think of, but 550 Amish farmers in Pennsylvania alone grow and harvest genetically modified crops
11:28 matey; too bad
11:29 DaemonFC; Right now, there are Web sites that offer to "help" women get abortion pills in the mail from India.
11:30 DaemonFC; I can see two things coming from this.
11:32 DaemonFC; 1. The US Constitution says that if a state demands a felony extradition, then the state that person is in must surrender the person named in the arrest warrant. The only time the state that is responsible for extraditing the suspect has the ability to refuse is in misdemeanor cases, but in many of these states, abortion and helping people obtain one is a felony. Since the crime involves the state and one of its residents, they can press felony
11:32 DaemonFC; charges against someone out of state for that and demand their surrender by the other state.
11:32 DaemonFC; 2. More of these sites will go up and a lot of them will be sting operations set up by the states themselves. Women will get on there, identify themselves, and try to buy an abortion pill, and then they will have broken the law and given the government all of the evidence it needs.
11:33 matey; In 1993, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the US military, and the University of Alaska created the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, otherwise known as HAARP. Since then, numerous conspiracy theories have sprung up surrounding the mysterious project, everything from satellites that can cause earthquakes to huge transmitters that can create tornadoes and tsunamis.
11:33 DaemonFC; Primarily, I think the states are going to issue felony arrest warrants for the people operating the Web sites.
11:33 matey; However, what most people dont know is that there actually was documented weather manipulation project during the Vietnam War
11:34 DaemonFC; <matey> However, what most people dont know is that there actually was documented weather manipulation project during the Vietnam War
11:34 DaemonFC; Cloud seeding?
11:34 DaemonFC; Well, it didn't work.
11:34 matey; Operation Popeye was an five-year project in which the US government used the age-old technique of cloud seeding to increase precipitation during the rainy seasons over North Vietnams Ho Chi Minh Trail in order to disrupt the NVAs moving of vehicles, weapons, and rations across the trail.
11:34 matey; The general idea of cloud seeding is to send an airborne object, typically an airplane, flying through a cloud while releasing small particulates that give water vapor something to cling to so that it can condense and become rain.
11:34 DaemonFC; They shut it down after they seeded a hurricane and it suddenly changed direction and hit Florida, iirc.
11:34 DaemonFC; Since the government didn't know if the seeding did that, they shut the project down.
11:35 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye Operation Sober Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 19671972. The highly classified program attempted to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in order to disrupt North Vietnamese military supplies
11:35 TR Bot; Operation Popeye - Wikipedia
11:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, The Amish are pretty crooked, you know. They consider cheating "The English", which is what they would call me, to be perfectly fine.
11:36 DaemonFC; They consider us sinners and the damned anyway, so what the hell?
11:36 matey; The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities
11:36 matey; you can say that again
11:36 DaemonFC; They won't pickpocket you or anything, but watch what you're buying at one of their markets.
11:36 matey; The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.
11:37 DaemonFC; The Amish are pretty weird, tbph.
11:37 matey; simply neglect to inform the secretary of defence, and the programme doesnt even exist :)
11:37 DaemonFC; Like they consider it a sin to drive a car, but if they pay someone else to do it and drive them around, that's fine.
11:37 matey; of course these days the military is MUCH MUCH more transparent
11:37 DaemonFC; Paying someone to sin isn't a sin? Oh wow!
11:37 matey; heh heh
11:37 DaemonFC; And partaking of it doesn't hurt you with God at all, you know.
11:38 matey; A report titled Rainmaking in SEASIA outlines use of lead iodide and silver iodide deployed by aircraft
11:38 matey; "seasia!"
11:38 DaemonFC; Now if you'll excuse me, I have some prostitutes to do business with. Not a sin! (just kidding)
11:38 matey; se presumably meaning southeast
11:39 matey; Reporter Jack Anderson published a story in March 1971 concerning Operation Popeye (though in his column, it was called Intermediary-Compatriot). The name Operation Popeye (Pop Eye) entered the public space through a brief mention in the Pentagon Papers
11:39 DaemonFC; In theory, since Illinois is a Compact State, we would have to respect an Amish horse and buggy using our roads, but since there are no Amish here and it's unlikely that the Amish would ride such a thing into Illinois, I don't think it comes up much.
11:39 matey; the same pentagon papers that snowdens report was compared to (by the same journalist responsible for the pentagon papers)
11:39 DaemonFC; They couldn't take them on the freeway of course, because they can't get up to at least 45 miles per hour, which makes it illegal to operate the vehicle on the freeway.
11:40 DaemonFC; matey, Two horse power. B-)
11:40 matey; Despite being one of the strongest proponents of the LGBT community today, Canadas history isnt as clean as one would think. In the 1960s, the Canadian government hired a university professor to create a gaydar, what it called the Fruit Machine at the time.
11:40 matey; The university professor, Frank Robert Wake of Carleton University, went about this by forcing subjects to look at same-sex erotic imagery while he measured pupil dilation, perspiration levels, and changes in pulse
11:40 matey; a gay lie detector!
11:41 DaemonFC; I have one of those older engines in my car that doesn't really work optimally until you've been driving it for about 10 miles.
11:41 matey; it wouldnt work of course-- straight people get aroused by gay things sometimes
11:41 matey; the human body/mind isnt so SPECIFIC
11:41 DaemonFC; I mean you don't have to warm it up for too long, but there's a very noticeable difference in the way it performs after it's fully warmed up.
11:41 matey; it doesnt have completely straight / completely gay modes
11:41 DaemonFC; There was not in the Kia.
11:42 matey; like some kind of sexual vim
11:42 DaemonFC; vim is a lie
11:42 matey; The program was part of a long-term effort to remove homosexuals from positions of civil service. In the late 1960s, funding was cut offbut not before the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had collected files on over 9,000 suspected homosexuals.
11:43 matey; hehehe
11:43 DaemonFC; There's no way to improve on vim because it sucks too bad to ever start out with the mentality that you're going to improve it.
11:43 matey; "mounted"
11:43 DaemonFC; I'm telling you, the Canadians are more right-wing and fascist than anything going on in the US.
11:43 DaemonFC; It's just that they're so damned polite about it, you wouldn't think about it too much.
11:44 DaemonFC; Justin Trudeau wants more oil, is suing the US to try to force us to take more oil, and has the immigration policy of Donald Trump.
11:45 DaemonFC; And do they ever get any blame for it?
11:45 DaemonFC; Of course not. Like Bogus Johnson, Mr. Police Bill, they just say the Supreme Court's decision on abortion was "horrific".
11:45 matey; Operation Mockingbird was a 1950s program in which the CIA recruited and propped up various media organizations to influence public opinion. In April 1976, the Church Committee, a US senate task force, conducted an investigation into the CIAs influence over both foreign and national news organizations
11:45 matey; and stated that the CIA maintained a huge global network that provided intel for the organization and at times attempted to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda.
11:45 DaemonFC; They bash us, act like their own failed country has no problems. Days, weeks, months...
11:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR does it.
11:47 DaemonFC; An empire driven back to an island, where they pretend at the trappings of an empire, and blame all of their problems on "foreigners" and people who sleep on the bus.
11:47 DaemonFC; And then say the US is nasty.
11:47 matey; This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin
11:47 matey; maybe the linux foundation is a cia operation :D
11:48 matey; agent zemlin only uses a mac
11:48 DaemonFC; CNN was bashing Tesla for setting up in Texas.
11:48 DaemonFC; Like they're going to be headquartered ANYWHERE soon.
11:48 schestowitz_TR; layoffland
11:48 DaemonFC; The going out of business sale is coming. When the company fails, you won't be able to service your $160,000 car.
11:48 schestowitz_TR; mayeb they can share a building with netflix and microsoft
11:48 schestowitz_TR; see who turns the light off last
11:49 matey; imo netflix is going to be part of the next bubble
11:49 matey; and go the way of myspace
11:49 DaemonFC; The US is going the same way the UK did years ago, is now.
11:49 matey; but that seems hard to imagine now, and obviously it could last as long as hbo
11:49 DaemonFC; Tennessee passed the felony homelessness bill.
11:50 schestowitz_TR; tesla can be sold and folded, cheaply, into some automobile giant
11:50 DaemonFC; And that goes into effect in 5 days.
11:50 schestowitz_TR; for the brands
11:50 matey; i dont know when the next bubble would be
11:50 matey; but i must think its far off if it takes netflix with it
11:50 DaemonFC; The whole point is to chase them all out into some other state.
11:50 matey; tesla can be sold and folded, cheaply, into some automobile giant <- i mean
11:50 matey; i wont be surprised if it becomes part of gm in the long run
11:50 matey; that sort of thing
11:50 DaemonFC; What a great thing to do to other Americans. War veterans? The Republicans say they like those people.
11:51 DaemonFC; Like them so much here's a felony, you know.
11:51 schestowitz_TR; people who waste $160,000 on a "smart" car would bpay a lot of repair
11:51 matey; particularly when you consider that volkswagon now owns lambo
11:51 schestowitz_TR; a
11:51 schestowitz_TR; "reomium" repair market
11:51 schestowitz_TR; here, that'll be $10000 for your replacement door
11:51 matey; if volkswagon can own a famous italian luxury sports car maker
11:51 matey; anybody could own tesla
11:51 DaemonFC; Illinois has a "Homeless Bill of Rights".
11:52 DaemonFC; It starts out with the legislative intent that it's the policy of the state that nobody should be homeless and that nobody will be charged with a criminal offense simply for being homeless, nor deprived of any legal right because of being homeless.
11:52 DaemonFC; So that's at least better than some states, like California and Tennessee.
11:53 schestowitz; [09:46] <techrights-news> Homelessness https://truthout.org/articles/arresting-unhoused-people-doesnt-fix-homelessness-police-do-it-anyway/ | Source: TruthOut
11:53 TR Bot; Arresting Unhoused People Doesn't Fix Homelessness. Police Do It Anyway.
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11:53 DaemonFC; No it doesn't help them. It gives them a criminal background and then they CAN'T get a home because they cna't get a job or an apartment.
11:54 DaemonFC; You create a vicious cycle where all they can do is go back to prison.
11:54 DaemonFC; I don't respect that, you know. Kicking a person while they're down. And mjg59_'s politicians are doing that in California.
11:55 TR News; LOL "Using an External Graphic Card"... does not look safe and beats the purpose of the darn thing https://linuxhint.com/can-you-upgrade-a-gaming-laptop/
11:55 TR Bot; Can You Upgrade a Gaming Laptop?
11:55 DaemonFC; First they tried making it a felony to "bring in a homeless person" and when the Supreme Court told California that American citizens can go wherever the hell they want to go within the country back in 1999, California launched the war against the homeless themselves.
11:55 DaemonFC; By making it a crime to sleep somewhere.
11:55 DaemonFC; They "get it".
11:56 DaemonFC; Then the Ninth Circuit said unless California wanted to give them a designated place to sleep at night, they couldn't arrest them for sleeping somewhere in public.
11:57 DaemonFC; The state that keeps attacking the homeless and setting federal court precedent is liberal Californai.
11:57 DaemonFC; *California
11:57 DaemonFC; It's not Indiana doing it.
11:57 DaemonFC; South Park even made fun of it in that episode with the homeless.
11:57 DaemonFC; Cartman singing "California....super cool to the homeless!".
11:58 DaemonFC; They were trying to lure the homeless (depicted as zombies wanting change for the bus) into California so they wouldn't have to deal with them in Colorado.
11:59 DaemonFC; It's a race to the bottom to see which state can be nastiest to them so someone else gets them all and has to deal with the problems it causes.
11:59 DaemonFC; States all do share one thing in common.
11:59 DaemonFC; They only value citizens who work and pay taxes.
12:00 DaemonFC; Once you can't pay taxes and can't afford rent, they don't want you.
12:00 DaemonFC; Go bother someone else. If you don't leave after they read you the Riot Act, then you're going to prison.
12:04 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/25/1107416457/monkeypox-outbreak-in-us
12:04 TR Bot; Monkeypox outbreak in U.S. is bigger than the CDC reports : Shots - Health News : NPR
12:04 DaemonFC; :P
12:04 DaemonFC; Yeah, panic and blame gay people!
12:04 DaemonFC; -Bill
12:05 DaemonFC; We have one of those good vaccines. You'll test it like a broken Windows update and then pay patent licenses.
12:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I don't believe that 1.9 million lives in the US were saved by COVID vaccines.
12:05 DaemonFC; It's something they say after the fact so people aren't pissed at all the money that got wasted.
12:06 DaemonFC; It's impossible to verify, so they could say it saved 3-4 million if they wanted to.
12:06 DaemonFC; Even better.
12:13 DaemonFC; "Some of the most common offenses reflected particular challenges for someone living outside: failing to appear for court dates and keeping up with the terms of their probation or parole."
12:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Yes, they order you to have a job and a regular address if you're on probation.
12:14 DaemonFC; Obviously a court order that you'll have a job and a house makes both appear, right?
12:19 DaemonFC; https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/03/broken-windows/304465/
12:19 TR Bot; Broken Windows - The Atlantic
12:19 DaemonFC; This says that "people in the neighborhoods would reassert control" eventually.
12:19 DaemonFC; People move around so much these days that they're unlikely to consider where they live to be their neighborhood to the extent that it's worth putting any work into.
12:20 DaemonFC; If things get totally out of control, you just rent another apartment when your lease is up and move.
12:22 matey; anyway to answer your question schestowitz_TR
12:22 matey; supporting any organisation that has failed to do its job for 7 years is pointless
12:22 DaemonFC; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/inflation-economy-midterm-elections-2022/661354/
↺ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/inflation-economy-midterm-elections-2022/661354/
12:22 TR Bot; Why Does 2022 Feel Like 1979? - The Atlantic
12:23 matey; the corruption continues with folding to coup demands in january, to making lieplanet more a farce in march
12:23 DaemonFC; "and, yes, an influenza epidemic broke out."
12:23 matey; it never ends
12:23 DaemonFC; Except it didn't.
12:23 DaemonFC; The flu never escaped Fort Dix.
12:23 matey; they are the former organisation known as the fsf
12:23 DaemonFC; But the vaccination campaign killed or paralyzed 146 people in America.
12:23 matey; osi is a former organisation that has achieved its goal of supplanting free software, for which you dont hold it accountable (only for other things that are important, but less so)
12:24 matey; both are non-answers to the problem
12:24 matey; non-solutions, non-starters. like asking whether we should use mozilla or chrome for privacy
12:24 matey; the correct answer is neither
12:24 matey; it would be BETTER, hypothetically and if it happens
12:24 matey; to have a REAL organisation that STILL stands for something
12:24 matey; the fsf never will. never. will.
12:25 matey; so IF but only IF such an org is built at some point
12:25 matey; or if im wrong (but im not) and the fsf became that again and actually answered for previous shit
12:25 matey; im not falling for their bullshit, its pretty plain to see
12:26 matey; thats great if such an org is built
12:26 matey; but it will be built, mark my words
12:26 matey; by individuals LIKE the ones who actually care about these issues today
12:26 matey; when no org bothers to care
12:26 matey; even dyne has sold out
12:26 matey; i still like its founder but hes not doing what he should
12:26 matey; dyne is a mess
12:26 matey; i dont think its bribes, i think its misplaced trust
12:27 matey; until there is an org worthy of donations
12:27 matey; that ACTUALLY DOES what it says
12:27 matey; the best bet for now is inviduals
12:27 matey; i support individuals
12:27 matey; ill support an org if a real, honest, useful, non-corrupt non-useless one comes along
12:27 matey; i have no need for any of the ones that cant do shit for users.
12:28 matey; the fsf cant-- wont-- never will do shit.
12:28 matey; whats more
12:28 matey; you personally write apologetics for their nonsense for self-serving reasons
12:29 matey; keeping a foot in the door while throwing people who actually stand for something under the bus
12:29 matey; it means you get a story
12:29 matey; but the story you get is bs.
12:29 matey; thats the bone they throw you
12:29 matey; and it doesnt keep you "in line" but you still serve the coup inadvertently
12:29 matey; you do their bidding sometimes, and thats too often.
12:29 matey; then you turn around and play for the other side for a while
12:30 matey; but only until they invite you in again
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:30 matey; that does more harm than good but
12:30 matey; hey, its your blog.
12:31 matey; also before you talk about guest contributions
12:31 matey; your posting overtook shane in the first 365 days i think
12:32 matey; guest contributions are a sliver of the whole thing, at least by post count (which isnt the only useful metric of course)
12:32 matey; its not hard to get concrete numbers on the percentage of guest contributions
12:33 DaemonFC; "People who should be linking arms to save democracy are grousing about their student loans and the price of gas"
12:33 matey; it really is YOUR blog.
12:33 DaemonFC; LOL, this is ridiculous.
12:33 DaemonFC; Had Biden not cut off oil production, the Democrats wouldn't be about to blow the election with $6 gas on election day.
12:33 TR News; "Building and creating content for a Gemini capsule is a great excuse to play around, and create or enhance scripts. The only real problem is, that it has to stop somewhere, there comes a moment in time when it is "finished". Well, there are always small things that you could improve..." gemini://box.matto.nl/tinkering.gmi
12:33 matey; guest posts are welcomed, but frankly the collaboration (in direct contributions) is exaggerated
12:34 matey; there are a lot of people who help you indirectly, here for example. im well aware of that.
12:34 matey; the community, to put it in the most realistic possible terms
12:35 TR News; "This project has kept me super busy. I haven't ran Xen in over ten years. I haven't used Ansible for over five. I discovered how great Alpine Linux is outside of Docker. And most of all, I've fallen in love with OpenBSD." gemini://shit.cx/tech/meta/2022-06-26-new-tls-certificates/
12:35 matey; doesnt decide where the blog goes (not that it necessarily should-- it might help, but thats not the same thing)
12:35 matey; the blog goes in circles
12:35 matey; the community has some notable influence on where you stop for a toilet break
12:35 matey; but then its back on the road
12:36 matey; im not suggesting blogs have to be democratic
12:36 matey; its less about what it should be-- and more about what it actually is, vs what is portrayed
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12:37 matey; the tactics dont change, but the framing moves around now and then
12:37 matey; thats how it works
12:39 matey; i woke up today and there was a large spider in the bath
12:39 matey; in theory (sometimes in practice) i prefer to let them live, they can be useful
12:40 matey; but it was too early and the location was too unsuitable-- not only because it was the bath, but for other reasons
12:40 matey; im afraid s/he didnt make it
12:40 TR News; Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit-mini-pc-iot-gateway-supports-an-external-20a-battery-pack/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
12:40 TR Bot; Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack - CNX Software
12:40 matey; first thing in the morning, a spider in the bath gets the water treatment
12:41 matey; it was also larger than i would have preferred, which was a factor in its demise
12:41 TR News; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Role-Playing Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166496
12:41 TR Bot; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Role-Playing Games | Tux Machines
12:41 TR News; An open source project that opens the internet for all Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166497
12:41 TR Bot; An open source project that opens the internet for all | Tux Machines
12:41 matey; the larger ones move too fast
12:42 matey; a much larger yellow garden spider (not common but making their way) would have survived
12:42 matey; i know exactly what they are, theyre cool
12:42 matey; but youd never find one inside anyway
12:44 TR News; EasyOS: Boot menu in initrd when no password https://bkhome.org/news/202206/boot-menu-in-initrd-when-no-password.html
12:44 TR Bot; Boot menu in initrd when no password
12:45 TR News; EasyOS and similar sadly still outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software https://bkhome.org/news/202206/limine-373-compiled-in-oe.html
12:45 TR Bot; Limine 3.7.3 compiled in OE
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12:51 TR News; "At this reading, I also for the first time met the people from O'Reilly"... so FSFE, which uses "FSF" in the name in violation of an agreement with "FSF", liaises with O'Reilly, which helped attack Free software with the "Open Source" canard https://k7r.eu/recent-readings-of-ada-zangemann/
12:52 TR Bot; Matthias Kirschner's Web log Recent Readings of Ada & Zangemann
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12:53 TR News; Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166498
12:53 TR Bot; Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack | Tux Machines
12:53 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166499
12:53 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:53 TR News; Motion Detection with PIR and Raspberry PI: HC-SR501 wiring and Python Code Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166500
12:53 TR Bot; Motion Detection with PIR and Raspberry PI: HC-SR501 wiring and Python Code | Tux Machines
12:56 TR News; "By default, if you create a React application using create-react-app, the application does not use HTTPS. Enabling HTTPS for your app is useful especially if you plan to proxy requests to an API that serves them via HTTPS." https://www.makeuseof.com/create-react-app-ssl-https/
12:56 TR Bot; How to Use SSL in a Create-React-App Application
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:00 TR News; Edge opportunities guide Red Hats evolving partnerships with GM and chipmakers - SiliconANGLE https://siliconangle.com/2022/06/22/edge-opportunities-guide-red-hats-evolving-partnerships-gm-chipmakers-rhsummit/ Source: siliconangle
13:00 TR Bot; opportunities guide Red Hats evolving partnerships with GM and chipmakers - SiliconANGLE
13:01 TR News; The acronym "FLOSS" is being hijacked https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28776
13:01 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
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13:04 TR News; Chaining together highly malicious spying devices... like a "boss"? https://gizmodo.com/google-chromebook-apple-macbook-chrome-os-update-phone-1849096712
13:04 TR Bot; Google Mimics Apple's Convenience in Chromebook Update
13:04 *psydruid compromises the compromised software foundation a little more
13:05 matey; compromise! no opportunity evades your eyes! remember why the good lord made your eyes, so dont shade your eyes but
13:06 matey; compromise compromise compromise!
13:06 matey; only but to call it always please: strategy!
13:07 matey; https://www.fsf.org/news/compromise
13:07 TR Bot; "Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard Stallman Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
13:07 matey; a requiem for the fsf
13:07 matey; for the past 7 years, helping the fsf has only given them a platform to be hijacked repeatedly by the coup
13:08 matey; youre REALLY only helping the coup if you help the fsf
13:08 matey; the coup is all thats left
13:08 TR News; Speeding up autoconf with caching - Julio Merino (jmmv.dev) https://jmmv.dev/2022/06/autoconf-caching.html Source: jmmv
13:08 TR Bot; up autoconf with caching - Julio Merino (jmmv.dev)
13:08 matey; any "good people" still there are like slaves
13:08 matey; the civil war wasnt fought because america was fighting against the slaves
13:08 matey; it was fighting against their owners
13:08 matey; (and a lot of it was opportunistic. but the outcome did help the situation with slavery-- ending MOST of it)
13:09 matey; if you want to own slaves you have to build a prison first. thats the new rules
13:09 matey; and it was a major reform
13:09 matey; there were more plantations than prisons
13:09 matey; the prison industrial complex is STILL working to catch up
13:10 matey; i mean it used to be if you owned something made of cotton, you had a product of slave labour
13:10 TR News; Minions 2: The Rise of Gru, is a movie about labor exploitation and capitalism. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/23177505/minions-2-rise-of-gru-explained-capitalism
13:10 matey; now, if you want cotton produced by slaves, you have to get specific brands-- like victorias secret
13:10 TR Bot; Minions 2: The Rise of Gru explains capitalism - Vox
13:10 matey; that really is progress-- even if its exaggerated (its not QUITE as much progress as it ought to be)
13:11 matey; what its NOT is a solution to the problem of slavery
13:11 matey; not solved yet
13:11 matey; progress can be 9/10 of a solution
13:11 matey; progress can also be 1/2 of a solution
13:11 matey; it can even be 1/100 of a solution
13:11 matey; this is why progress is such a slippery word
13:12 matey; the fsf is run by plantation owners
13:13 matey; who have taken the fight for freedom and turned it into subsidised, tax-free support for corporate applications
13:13 psydruid; some progress is actually regression
13:13 *psydruid is heading out the door again
13:13 matey; some progress is actually regression <- too much of it
13:13 matey; ACTION is heading out the door again <- cheers
13:13 matey; the fsf is regressive
13:14 matey; the more support they are given, the more damage they can do
13:14 TR News; Tiny Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Robot Made For Robot Sumo | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-robot-sumo Source: tomshardware
13:14 TR Bot; Tiny Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Robot Made For Robot Sumo | Tom's Hardware
13:14 matey; they have become open source
13:14 matey; whats open source? controlled opposition
13:14 matey; the only fight for freedom going on is NOT controlled opposition
13:15 matey; it is independent of the fsf and its charlatanism
13:15 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico Drives $10 Nintendo 64 Flash Cart | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-picocart64 Source: tomshardware
13:15 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico Drives $10 Nintendo 64 Flash Cart | Tom's Hardware
13:15 matey; stallman wasnt a charlatan-- neither was oskar schindler
13:15 matey; hes not in, never again will be, in charge
13:15 matey; they use him like a prop
13:15 matey; like a brand
13:15 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico Detects Gamma Rays in Open Spectroscopy Project | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-detects-radiation Source: tomshardware
13:15 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico Detects Gamma Rays in Open Spectroscopy Project | Tom's Hardware
13:15 matey; the same way republicans use jesus
13:16 matey; i dont think he realises hes being used this way
13:16 matey; hes not stupid, he might notice
13:16 matey; but they lie to him and exploit him
13:16 matey; and even smart people dont always notice thats happening to them
13:16 matey; the scientists who worked on the manhattan project were not conquerors
13:17 matey; they were not warmongers
13:17 matey; if any WANTED the thing to be used, most did not
13:17 matey; einstein himself told the usa, you have to make this-- if you dont, HITLER will do it first
13:17 matey; the scientists believed they were doing something necessary
13:17 matey; they too were exploited, like stallman
13:18 matey; (some may have been bloodthirsty. im not concerned with exceptions. but these are hypothetical exceptions)
13:18 TR News; "Facebook hacks are out of control" https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/06/the-sex-tape-link-facebook-hackers-have-hit-zim-heres-how-to-secure-your-account/
13:18 TR Bot; The sex tape link Facebook hackers have hit Zim, here's how to secure your account - Techzim
13:18 matey; with stallman, his trust in people was what was exploited
13:19 matey; with esr, his narcissism was exploited
13:19 matey; if anyone can show that esr was a willing participant in this, apart from his ego being leveraged, show it.
13:19 matey; i dont wish to defend him, only to not accuse him of what he is innocent of.
13:19 matey; i dislike him greatly.
13:20 matey; as a tech person he had useful skills
13:20 matey; as a reformer, he was a charlatan.
13:20 matey; as a blogger, hes a fucking nutbag.
13:20 TR News; If Microsoft wants to detect criminals, Microsoft employees should turn THEMSELVES in https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-shutting-down-azure-facial-emotion-recognitio-1849090511
13:20 TR Bot; Microsoft's Calling It Quits on Creepy Emotion Recognition Tech
13:20 matey; i consider him an opportunist
13:21 matey; even so, getting history right means...
13:21 matey; when you put the wrong person away for a murder-- even if theyre KNOWN for a fact to have killed someone else
13:21 matey; it only means the real killer goes free
13:21 TR News; "Microsoft isn't the first company to have second thoughts about facial recognition. IBM stopped work in that field over worries its projects could be used for human rights abuses." Just because ICBM got EXPOSED doing this. https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-retires-facial-recognition-ai-emotion-detection-183010078.html
13:21 matey; i dont wish to pin anything on esr he didnt actually do
13:21 TR Bot; will phase out facial recognition AI that could detect emotions | Engadget
13:22 matey; and let the real culprit off the hook
13:22 TR News; That just means mass surveillance city if one omits meaningless buzzwords https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/24/1053969/smart-city-unrealized-utopia/
13:22 TR Bot; The smart city is a perpetually unrealized utopia | MIT Technology Review
13:22 matey; i think he played a role in the destruction of the fsf, but mostly i think he was used and exploited
13:22 matey; the pawn that thought he was king of something
13:23 matey; its too bad, because at least at one point i think he genuinely hated microsoft
13:23 matey; and osi became a base of operations for microsoft cronies
13:24 matey; thats a sad story
13:24 matey; and all esr can do is blame the commies
13:24 matey; because its a well known fact that microsoft is a front for the comintern.
13:24 matey; esr is a fool
13:25 matey; but he did some cool technical shit, which makes you wish you liked him
13:25 TR News; Windows 10 and 11 Downloads Mysteriously Halted in Russia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277#comment-34141
13:25 TR Bot; Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux Machines
13:26 matey; he thinks hes stallmans friend
13:26 TR News; ICBM: we helped Hitler profit, now we claim to "Fight Bias in Online Ad Targeting" https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2022-06-20/delta-kellogg-join-ibm-pledge-to-fight-bias-in-online-ad-targeting
13:26 matey; but people like esr dont know what a friend even is
13:26 matey; they treat people like tools
13:26 matey; and sometimes they get used like one too
13:26 matey; maybe its karma, but the sort of person who uses people that way
13:27 matey; is often oblivious to being manipulated
13:27 matey; theyre paranoid-- but not wise.
13:27 matey; fearful-- but careless.
13:27 TR News; There's also social control media in the West, e.g. if you mention that Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein were bribing MIT https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/20/1054466/download-trolling-text-scammers-spam-china-social-media-censorship/
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13:28 matey; hes not half as smart as he thinks he is
13:28 matey; and you can see the results of that
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13:28 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
13:28 TR News; Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Pico Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166501
13:28 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Pico Projects | Tux Machines
13:29 matey; the people who attacked stallman are cut of the same cloth
13:29 matey; theyre hypocrites, mirror gazers, self-promoters
13:29 matey; theyll become tweet-sellers just like zemlin
13:29 matey; "lf-lite"
13:30 matey; lieplanet is lf lite because the people in charge are zemlin-lite
13:30 TR News; Stop saying "big tech"; you help lobbyists of criminals from Microsoft... also stop parroting statement from Microsoft. They're chronic liars who break the law like it's a bodily function https://gizmodo.com/salary-big-tech-microsoft-equal-pay-1849071451
13:30 TR Bot; A Pay Transparency Reckoning Is Coming for Big Tech
13:30 TR News; Fan Builds Custom Miniature IBM Model F 40% Keyboard https://gizmodo.com/fan-builds-custom-miniature-ibm-model-f-40-keyboard-mec-1849070632 Source: gizmodo
13:30 TR Bot; Fan Builds Custom Miniature IBM Model F 40% Keyboard
13:30 matey; lieplanet runs the fsf, not the other way around
13:31 TR News; "The 90s brought the era of globalization, the tech boom, and management philosophies that embraced cheap offshore production, creating a profitable but brittle global supply chain, one that no longer had national security front of mind." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/us-supply-chain-semiconductor-production-economic-warfare/661267/
13:31 TR Bot; The War in Ukraine Has Exposed a Critical American Vulnerability - The Atlantic
13:31 matey; its not the fsf anymore, its fsf/osi
13:31 matey; its not gnu/linux anymore, its ibm/microsoft
13:31 matey; why would people DONATE money to ibm/microsoft?
13:31 matey; they would have to be manipulated into doing that
13:32 matey; someone would have to bullshit them, a lot
13:32 MinceR; it gives them a cult to belong to
13:32 MinceR; like crApple
13:32 TR News; Sad that Quantum became a marketing buzzword if not junkword. Even flailing Mozilla uses it.
13:32 matey; +
13:32 matey; leah was right that the fsf is a cult (at least it is now)
13:32 matey; but its not a cult of stallman, its a cult of corporate shit
13:33 MinceR; https://nitter.it/pic/orig/enc/bWVkaWEvRGJGVUxTNlUwQUVGTG9wLmpwZw==
13:33 matey; using stallman the way rome/the pope/republicans use jesus
13:33 matey; not that stallman is (or would want to be compared to) jesus
13:33 matey; only hes not as bad as the people using him now
13:34 matey; /me wants a buddy stallman bobblehead guy, but wont buy it from the fsf directly
13:35 matey; <MinceR> https://nitter.it/pic/orig/enc/bWVkaWEvRGJGVUxTNlUwQUVGTG9wLmpwZw== <- nihilism is cuter when tweens do it
13:35 TR News; 15 Open-source Physics Simulation Engine https://medevel.com/os-physics-engine/
13:35 MinceR; i don't know if Jeff is a tween
13:35 TR Bot; 15 Open-source Physics Simulation Engine
13:36 matey; still, alice cooper does goth okay
13:36 matey; i didnt really respect him until he did waynes world, now i think hes awesome
13:36 matey; i was never a michael bolton fan until he did the jack sparrow video
13:36 matey; making fun of yourself is powerful
13:37 TR News; Re: Terminal Programs I Like gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-06-26-Re-terminal-programs-i-like.gmi
13:37 matey; but the dinner they have at the white house for similar purposes isnt funny anymore
13:37 matey; now its like-- dont make me get the hose, mike godwin
13:38 matey; 20th century dictators laughing about how evil they are
13:38 matey; "i bet you killed a bunch of jews and roma and russians this week"
13:38 matey; "haha! you know it!"
13:38 matey; "youre such a dick, adolf"
13:38 matey; "bahaha, its so true!"
13:39 matey; michael bolton at least, probably wasnt involved
13:40 TR News; Cortex XSOAR Tips & Tricks Creating indicator relationships in automations https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/06/23/cortex-xsoar-tips-tricks-creating-indicator-relationships-in-automations/
13:40 TR Bot; Cortex XSOAR Tips & Tricks Creating indicator relationships in automations NVISO Labs
13:40 matey; i don't know if Jeff is a tween <- its a little known fact that no one over 30 actually runs the internet
13:40 TR News; Social Engineering KillChain: Predicting, Minimizing & Disrupting Attack Verticals https://ahead.feedly.com/posts/social-engineering-kill-chain-predicting-minimizing-and-disrupting-attack-verticals Source: ahead
13:40 TR Bot; Social Engineering KillChain: Predicting, Minimizing & Disrupting Attack Verticals
13:41 matey; from the nsa to gchq, to jack dorsey to microsoft
13:41 matey; theyre all trying to get it BACK
13:41 matey; and they do try, really hard
13:41 TR News; CRTC Chair Ian Scott Confirms Bill C-11 Can Be Used To Pressure Internet Platforms to Manipulate Algorithms https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/crtc-chair-ian-scott-confirms/
13:41 matey; the threat is a real one
13:41 TR Bot; CRTC Chair Ian Scott Confirms Bill C-11 Can Be Used To Pressure Internet Platforms to Manipulate Algorithms - Michael Geist
13:42 matey; it shouldnt be taken too lightly. but we can still joke about it.
13:42 TR News; "In dystopian news we cover China using COVID tracking apps to lock down protesters" https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-why-there-were-56-ot-vulnerabilities-this-week/
13:42 TR Bot; Podcast: Why there were 56 OT vulnerabilities this week - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
13:43 TR News; Innovation Center Visits SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4728 Source: sparkfun
13:43 TR Bot; Center Visits SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics
13:44 matey; "they may cut your dick in half, and feed it to a pig-- and though it hurts youll laugh, and dance a dickless jig"
13:45 matey; "and thats just how it goes, in life youre shat upon! though you die, la resistance lives on!"
13:47 matey; they didnt show donald rumsfeld in that movie, but among the other things he had in common was satan was
13:47 matey; he was also in bed with saddam at one point
13:49 matey; /me glees
13:49 matey; theres a mailing list thread for it!
13:50 matey; ha, figures
13:50 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oYYnAX-zx-4
13:50 TR Bot; Charles Hoskinson - Why Cardano Will Crush Ethereum And Others - Invidious
13:50 schestowitz_TR; LF now boosting "crypto" crap
13:51 matey; no discussion https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-fsf/2008-09/threads.html#00004
13:51 TR Bot; info-fsf (thread)
13:51 schestowitz_TR; because it's PAID to do this
13:51 matey; <schestowitz_TR> LF now boosting "crypto" crap
13:51 matey; like bigfoot?
13:52 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology
13:52 TR Bot; Cryptozoology - Wikipedia
13:53 matey; "particularly those popular in folklore, such as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, Yeti, the chupacabra, the Jersey Devil, or the Mokele-mbembe."
13:53 TR News; After taking Cardano money, plus Dreck Hondahl's new job, the LF nowadays increasingly associates "Linux" with NFT and other scams. by boosting "crypto" crap and cargo cults it lends to this idea that Linux is a "crank" thing...
13:53 matey; the guy i met who worked on the manhattan project also went looking for the loch ness monster
13:53 matey; with jaques cousteu
13:53 matey; you may wonder what the connection is
13:54 matey; he was a specialist in lighting-- making optical switches for the manhattan project
13:54 matey; and inventing the strobe light
13:54 matey; so he made some underwater lighting equipment for jaques cousteu
13:54 matey; and what better way to test it than to go hunting for nessie
13:55 matey; if they found the monster, they didnt mention it
13:55 schestowitz_TR; wtf? smoking a fag and showing his bed all messed up.
13:55 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mKyedIQrI98
13:55 TR Bot; Is Canonical Evil? - The Linux Cast Live! - Invidious
13:55 matey; wtf? smoking a fag and showing his bed all messed up
13:55 matey; what, linus working on the kernel in his bathrobe?
13:56 matey; /me has coded in less
13:57 matey; im sure some men write code in lace stockings and a neglige
13:57 matey; zemlin will still find a bathrobe to be a scandal
13:58 matey; the real atrocity is that richard stallman wrote emacs WITHOUT WEARING A TIE
13:58 matey; not even a bowtie, ffs
13:58 matey; how can you have any pudding if you dont eat your meat?
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14:02 schestowitz_TR; bowtie is IBM
14:03 matey; bowtie is IBM <- and the guy who (practically) invented timesharing
14:03 schestowitz_TR; bottomley
14:03 schestowitz_TR; Linux SCSI maintainer James Bottomley
14:04 schestowitz_TR; he has ben relatively quiet lately
14:04 schestowitz_TR; used to blog a lot more
14:04 schestowitz_TR; lwn showed a photo of him weeks ago
14:04 schestowitz_TR; still wearing the bowtie
14:05 schestowitz_TR; https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2248551674/photo_james_w800_400x400.jpg
14:05 matey; i was thinking of this guy https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q07PhW5sCEk
14:05 TR Bot; 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks - Invidious
14:05 schestowitz_TR; https://cdn.facesofopensource.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/09202139/bottemley.faces22141.web_.jpg
14:05 schestowitz_TR; https://static.lwn.net/images/2022/lsfmm-bottomley-sm.png
14:05 schestowitz_TR; that's the recent one I saw ^
14:05 schestowitz_TR; white hair
14:05 schestowitz_TR; either the colour changed fast or he stopped with the dyes
14:06 matey; theres a guy from mongolia wearing a bowtie here https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RPUsuDTnnFM
14:06 TR Bot; Looking For Love In A Ukrainian Village ( Isn't Easy ) - Invidious
14:06 matey; as racist as it may be, i find it really hard not to picture him throwing a hat as a weapon...
14:06 schestowitz_TR; https://www.linux.com/images/stories/714/james_bottomley-1312393394.jpg
14:06 matey; (i dont think thats actually racist though. hes built just like the guy)
14:06 matey; (ben even hired him as his 'bodyguard')
14:06 matey; (and hes in a fucking bowtie)
14:07 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2f_Vjz66gh8
14:07 TR Bot; that 60s russian lalala singing guy love him (him = "Edward Gil") - Invidious
14:07 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86 can translate this to us
14:07 schestowitz_TR; he looks a bit like bottomley
14:07 matey; i didnt know bottomley was a stocky asian guy
14:08 XRevan86; > a 1976 video of Khil singing a non-lexical vocable version of the song "I am very glad, as I'm finally returning back home"
14:08 schestowitz_TR; wow, 1976
14:08 matey; > a 1976 video of Khil
14:09 matey; /me wonders what katharsisdril is up to
14:09 matey; the world is full of more intrigue than his comic right now
14:10 matey; i think his comic became harder to follow when he moved his website to some other platform
14:10 matey; like tumblr or whatever it was
14:10 matey; i hope im wrong, that would be lovely
14:11 XRevan86; Apparently the recording is from a tour in Sweden.
14:13 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252589
14:13 TR Bot; Ukrainian Armed Forces start using HIMARS MLRS to shell Russian military facilities. Video
14:13 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252591
14:13 TR Bot; Apartment building in Kyiv shelled
14:15 matey; "A subset of cryptozoology promotes the pseudoscience of Young Earth creationism, rejecting conventional science in favor of a Biblical interpretation"
14:15 XRevan86; The woman is a Russian citizen, and her (Ukrainian citizen) husband died.
14:15 matey; if you want to go to a cryptozoo, you need to pay them in cryptocurrency
14:15 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/26/russias-war-protesting-artists-denied-concerts-by-authorities-news "Russias war protesting artists denied concerts by authorities"
14:15 TR Bot; .
14:16 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/kids-eat-free.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-kids-eat-free#comic )
14:16 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
14:16 matey; Media outlets have often uncritically disseminated information from cryptozoologist sources, including newspapers that repeat false claims made by cryptozoologists or television shows that feature cryptozoologists as monster hunters (such as the popular and purportedly nonfiction American television show MonsterQuest, which aired from 2007 to 2010).
14:16 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/26/7354718/ this article covers that detail
14:16 TR Bot; Missile strike on Kyiv causes fatality | Ukrayinska Pravda
14:17 matey; they do similar promotion of quakery such as iraq war justification and microsoft
14:17 matey; sorry, thats quackery
14:17 matey; /me didnt mean to implicate quakers
14:18 matey; "quakers settled and built this town-- mostly so they could use it to sell dr maxs miracle serum!"
14:19 schestowitz_TR; so now ukraine plays with American toys
14:19 MinceR; or so they had a place for LAN parties
14:19 schestowitz_TR; totally not proxy war!
14:19 MinceR; what's belarus doing?
14:19 matey; if youre going to have a proxy war, you should do it at a lan party
14:19 MinceR; :>
14:19 matey; that way the other teams dont know how to mitm you
14:19 schestowitz_TR; "Depending on the ammunition, the range is from 45 to 500 km.
14:19 schestowitz_TR; "
14:20 schestowitz_TR; They make nintendo-like 8-bit sounds
14:20 schestowitz_TR; like it's a game
14:20 schestowitz_TR; they kill people
14:20 MinceR; "Videogames don't kill people, I do!"
14:20 matey; "pew pew pew?"
14:20 schestowitz_TR; Reasonable! Otherwise, if our cities had been attacked, the Russian Armed Forces would have carried out their threat and struck at the centers of these criminal decisions. Some of them are not in Kiev at all. I don't need to explain what happens next.
14:20 schestowitz_TR; Biden lips icevream
14:20 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1540836111781691392
14:21 schestowitz_TR; as Russian fires at apartment buildings
14:21 schestowitz_TR; with humans, digs, cats
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14:21 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1541035666187980800
14:21 schestowitz_TR; US fanning the flames, still
14:21 schestowitz_TR; not that Putin is justified
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14:21 schestowitz_TR; they just ruin the world
14:21 matey; han pewed first
14:22 schestowitz_TR; as they did for many decades after ww2
14:22 MinceR; should they just appease vladolf instead?
14:22 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russia is pretty angry with Germany these days. Emboldened by his recent meetings with Putin, top pro-Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov threatened Berlin and insulted Olaf Scholz for helping Ukraine and criticizing the Kremlin (clips from 2 recent broadcasts)."|nitter
14:22 schestowitz_TR; then in 2000 the US became hardly morally better than Russia
14:22 MinceR; "yes, you can have ukraine"
14:22 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Andrey Gurulyov, State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, discussed how to best attack the West, while also purging internal opposition & hunting them down abroad. Fellow propagandist warned I would use those quotes, but he kept talking."|nitter
14:22 MinceR; "yes, you can have moldova"
14:22 schestowitz_TR; and that has hardly changed since
14:22 MinceR; "yes, you can have lithuania"
14:22 MinceR; "yes, you can have hungary, just please don't go beyond the eastern bloc"
14:22 MinceR; you know the west tried that before, and it didn't work
14:23 MinceR; it started with poland that time, iirc
14:23 matey; https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/russia-under-sanctions-but-putin-becomes-new-fsf-president
14:23 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/russia-under-sanctions-but-putin-becomes-new-fsf-president )
14:24 schestowitz_TR; now they just need th write that page
14:24 schestowitz_TR; and choose this URL slug
14:24 MinceR; :>
14:24 matey; you heard it here first!
14:24 schestowitz_TR; matey: OK, when does Putin send weapons to guam?
14:24 schestowitz_TR; MinceR: ^
14:24 schestowitz_TR; or to cuba?
14:25 matey; is this like a riddle? or a pun?
14:25 MinceR; he can't even afford to supply his own army
14:25 matey; he can't even afford to supply his own arm <-
14:25 matey; he needs to make those tanks with a replacable turret that has a second fuel tank
14:25 schestowitz_TR; 'replenish'
14:25 MinceR; he needs to suck off a shotgun
14:25 matey; we herd you like tanks, so we put a tank your tank so you can refuel while you refuel
14:26 matey; he needs to suck off a shotgun <- tbh an exhaust pipe would work just as well
14:26 matey; even from a tank!
14:26 schestowitz_TR; what percent of "modern" russian tasks are even destroyed?
14:26 schestowitz_TR; They can make lots of new ones
14:26 matey; they must emit exhaust somewhere...
14:26 schestowitz_TR; maybe faster than they get destroyed
14:26 XRevan86; schestowitz: Define ""modern" russian tank".
14:26 MinceR; they can make them if they can smuggle tech in from red china
14:26 matey; what percent of "modern" russian tasks are even destroyed? <- enough to make the invasion look iffy
14:26 *schestowitz_TR checks how many tanks germany made in rearmanment
14:27 matey; they can make them if they can smuggle tech in from red china <- ohho, touchscreen controls!
14:27 schestowitz_TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_the_German_Army
14:27 TR Bot; Tanks in the German Army - Wikipedia
14:27 matey; "i cant find them, where did they go?"
14:27 matey; "here, pinch to zoom out like this"
14:27 MinceR; also, if they can afford to pay their workers
14:27 XRevan86; Armata? They haven't seen in combat at all.
14:28 XRevan86; A real modern Russian tank is T-72.
14:28 matey; "fire at bill!"
14:28 matey; "AT BILL!"
14:28 matey; "damn autocorrect"
14:28 MinceR; it's william either way, they'll know whom to shoot
14:29 schestowitz_TR; https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/03/15/how-many-tanks-does-russia-have-in-ukraine-and-how-many-have-they-lost-so-far/?sh=46239d1a5682
14:29 TR Bot; How Many Tanks Does Russia Have In Ukraine And How Many Has It Lost So Far?
14:29 matey; he must be the guy in the red shirt
14:29 schestowitz_TR; https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/05/25/the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-tanks-for-the-war-in-ukraine-these-60-year-old-t-62s-are-proof/?sh=3b8411b052ec
14:29 TR Bot; The Russian Army Is Running Out Of Tanks For The War In Ukraine. These 60-Year-Old T-62s Are Proof.
14:29 schestowitz_TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_main_battle_tanks_by_country
14:29 TR Bot; List of main battle tanks by country - Wikipedia
14:30 matey; /me wonders why putin wants military tech that can be all be defeated by john conner
14:30 matey; its like he didnt see the movies!
14:30 schestowitz_TR; Egypt has about 4000, mostly American
14:31 schestowitz_TR; most of ukraine's are soviet tanks
14:31 matey; if you see a russian tank being lowered into a vat of molten metal, youll know why
14:31 matey; russian tanks cant self-terminate. fortunately they dont have to.
14:32 XRevan86; Most of Ukraine's are T-72's
14:32 MinceR; putler should self-terminate
14:32 schestowitz_TR; this says russia has about 15000 thanks
14:32 schestowitz_TR; inc. in storage
14:32 schestowitz_TR; *tanks
14:32 schestowitz_TR; no thanks
14:33 MinceR; how many of them work?
14:33 matey; <MinceR> putler should self-terminate <- maybe he can morph into a tank, and then get taken out by shoulder-launched weapons
14:33 MinceR; how many of them can they supply outside orcland?
14:33 XRevan86; MinceR: I was about to say. That's the main catch.
14:33 MinceR; how many of them do they have trained operators for?
14:33 XRevan86; And the reason why T-62 are being deployed: they are generally in better condition as because they're phased out, they weren't stripped for parts.
14:33 schestowitz_TR; fchina supplies tanks to african nations
14:34 XRevan86; And because they're much more archaic, they weren't stripped for valuables.
14:34 matey; they are generally in better condition as because they're phased out, <- my god, hes using windows strategy
14:34 MinceR; lol
14:34 schestowitz_TR; has a working fleet of over 5000 chinese-made tanks
14:34 matey; the new tanks will be called: russian EDGE!
14:34 schestowitz_TR; they are good for running ovrer students
14:34 schestowitz_TR; "low risk" attack
14:34 schestowitz_TR; to the tank operator
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14:34 matey; #techrights : 06/26/22 13:34 <- except for that one dude (he was too tall)
14:34 MinceR; finally, an improvement on russian GSM
14:34 matey; chinese students are not known for their height
14:34 schestowitz_TR; the main one is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_tank
14:34 TR Bot; Type 96 tank - Wikipedia
14:35 matey; they are good for running ovrer students <- was responding to this of course
14:35 schestowitz_TR; "ManufacturerFirst Inner Mongolia Machinery Factory"
14:35 schestowitz_TR; Mongolia... maybe the next Tibet
14:37 schestowitz_TR; "capable of firing ATGMs and depleted uranium rounds"
14:37 schestowitz_TR; ""According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) The Military Balance, the Russians have 2,800 tanks and 13,000 other armored vehicles (reconnaissance and infantry fighting vehicles) in units with another 10,000 tanks and 8,500 armored vehicles in storage.12 Apr 2022
14:37 schestowitz_TR; "While Ukrainian losses should not be underestimated, Russia's tribute in terms of lost vehicles either destroyed or captured is huge and reaches levels not seen since World War II, with almost 800 lost tanks now visually confirmed through open-source data, and around 3,500 other armored vehicles.2 days ago
14:37 schestowitz_TR; "
14:38 schestowitz_TR; so that sort of settles the original question
14:38 schestowitz_TR; they have many left
14:38 schestowitz_TR; and took many cities already
14:39 schestowitz_TR; but without nukes and planes (blitz) they can't get far further than ukraine
14:39 matey; when putin sends in replacements: https://www.flushmaterepairparts.com/parts-by-category/replacement-tanks
14:39 TR Bot; You are being redirected...
14:39 schestowitz_TR; without influx of arms
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14:39 schestowitz_TR; hi, alf
14:40 matey; "and depleted uranium rounds" <- just what the world needs more of
14:40 schestowitz_TR; mongolia's poulation is very small
14:40 schestowitz_TR; china could take it ina day without a shot fired
14:40 schestowitz_TR; like crimea
14:40 schestowitz_TR; what would donald biden do?
14:40 matey; <schestowitz_TR> mongolia's poulation is very small <- but stocky
14:41 schestowitz_TR; like pood the bear
14:41 matey; im just saying, i woudlnt talk about their size face-to-face
14:41 schestowitz_TR; pooh\
14:42 TR News; How To Put Linux On A Laptop <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://linuxhint.com/how-to-put-linux-on-a-laptop/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
14:42 TR Bot; How To Put Linux On A Laptop
14:42 matey; pooh the bear gives china its own internet
14:42 matey; but its actually a honeypot
14:43 TR News; What Is cURL Command and How to Use It (With Examples) https://linuxiac.com/curl-command-in-linux-with-exaples/ Source: linuxiac
14:43 TR Bot; What Is cURL Command and How to Use It (With Examples)
14:43 TR News; How To Put Linux On A Laptop https://linuxhint.com/how-to-put-linux-on-a-laptop/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
14:44 matey; https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/the-new-yorker-how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens/
14:44 TR Bot; The New Yorker: How democracies spy on their citizens - The Citizen Lab
14:45 matey; https://citizenlab.ca/2022/02/reuters-how-a-saudi-womans-iphone-revealed-hacking-around-the-world/
↺ https://citizenlab.ca/2022/02/reuters-how-a-saudi-womans-iphone-revealed-hacking-around-the-world/
14:45 TR Bot; Reuters: How a Saudi woman's iPhone revealed hacking around the world - The Citizen Lab
14:45 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/selfie-stick2.gif ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-selfie-stick#comic )
14:45 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
14:47 matey; https://citizenlab.ca/2022/05/bada-bing-bada-boom-microsoft-bings-chinese-political-censorship-autosuggestions-north-america/
14:47 TR Bot; Bada Bing, Bada Boom: Microsoft Bings Chinese Political Censorship of Autosuggestions in North America - The Citizen Lab
14:47 matey; chinasoft!
14:49 MinceR; jyna
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14:53 matey; /me got free chopsticks yesterday
14:53 matey; theyre usually free, but you usually get them with a meal
14:53 matey; i offered to buy them
14:54 matey; theyre the fancy (disposable) ones too-- rounded at the end you dont eat with
14:54 matey; ill have to eat there some time soon-- i was actually getting takeout from a place that doesnt have them :/
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:01 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166502
15:01 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:02 schestowitz_TR; matey: r u jynis?
15:02 schestowitz_TR; * MinceR
15:06 TR News; Clown computing = vendor lockin and proprietary software. Let's NOT promote that. Like the "serverless" lie. https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/23/filtering-numbers-quickly-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/
15:06 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/23/filtering-numbers-quickly-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/ )
15:08 TR News; Weird 'humour' https://lunduke.substack.com/p/google-pulls-plug-on-sentient-ai
15:08 TR Bot; Google pulls plug on "Sentient A.I." after it begins using Arch Linux
15:10 TR News; "Migrant workers are returning to their home states again as COVID-19 pandemic lashes out brutally at several urban centres" https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/economy/will-mgnrega-help-again-rs-1-387-crore-pending-in-wages-76585
15:10 TR Bot; Will MGNREGA help again? Rs 1,387 crore pending in wages
15:10 TR News; Daycare apps are insecure surveillance dumpster-fires https://pluralistic.net/2022/06/23/peek-a-boo/#attack-helicopter-parenting "Apps are like software, only worse."
15:10 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 23 Jun 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
15:12 matey; matey: r u jynis? <- no, im indian
15:12 matey; oh you were asking mincer
15:13 matey; i think hes from neither land
15:15 TR News; Adding a new application shortcut to the panel in Lubuntu https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/304
15:15 TR Bot; Adding a new application shortcut to the panel in Lubuntu, Lubuntu
15:16 matey; 867-5309 (jyni)
15:25 MinceR; schestowitz_TR: no
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15:28 TR News; Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt is now part of the mission of the Linux Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34144
15:28 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines
15:29 TR News; Windows vs Linux: Whats the best operating system? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166503
15:29 TR Bot; Windows vs Linux: What's the best operating system? | Tux Machines
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:33 TR News; Mindless, facts-free greenwashing by LF https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/feature/How-to-approach-sustainability-in-IT-operations
15:33 TR Bot; How to approach sustainability in IT operations
15:37 TR News; More greenwashing from LF https://www.techtarget.com/searchsoftwarequality/news/252521642/Green-software-summit-outlines-developer-best-practices see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/
15:37 TR Bot; Green software summit outlines developer best practices
15:37 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
15:38 alf; lol, "climate science"
15:39 alf; truth is, global heating surpassed any supposed margin by several degrees
15:40 TR News; Marketing spam disguised as article https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Inspect-a-Gadget/NordVPN-Meshnet-device-diversity-encrypted-against-adversity
15:40 TR Bot; NordVPN Meshnet: device diversity encrypted against adversity
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15:42 TR News; "A host of software tools, code samples, an app store, and pre-configured Linux images make getting started surprisingly simple." https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcochiappetta/2022/06/22/amd-xilinx-makes-machine-vision-ai-development-quick-easy-and-affordable/
15:42 TR Bot; AMD Xilinx Makes Machine Vision AI Development Quick, Easy And Affordable
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15:44 alf; typical "climate science", it's colder outside than during nightime
15:45 TR News; Microsoft blocks Windows downloads in Russia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277#comment-34145
15:45 TR Bot; Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux Machines
15:49 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22062310
15:49 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://0x0.st/oSXN.jpg created on 2022-06-23 03:36:59.414808
15:51 matey; sciece is a conspiracy to make people less superstious and idiotic
15:51 TR News; SpellBinding: EKMNPTU Wordo: HEATS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-26.gmi
15:51 alf; the oil industry knew, they couldn't hide the truth, hence the sponsorship of "climate science"
15:51 matey; /me still cant type for shit
15:52 matey; the oil industry knew <- it was their own scientists that told them
15:52 alf; they are lying
15:53 TR News; "Having said that, it's not only China and Russia that gets this benefit. Japan is also an empire in the sense that it had and still does rule over areas once owned (in some sense of the word) by other tribes that have been there since before records began." gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/history-line.gmi
15:53 matey; being a scientist for the oil industry is a bit like being a journalist in china
15:53 alf; all of them, in particular "climate scientists", who are mouth pieces of this industry
15:53 alf; well paid, to stfu
15:53 alf; temperature anomalies, reached almost 10degC already
15:53 schestowitz_TR; matey: in china they're called inmates
15:54 matey; inmates <-
15:54 matey; <matey>
15:54 matey; i dont like this term
15:54 alf; only godd news today, russia relocates nukes close to nato borders, belarus
15:55 matey; today its an anomaly, tomorrow its the new normal
15:55 matey; there is one way we could buy some time though
15:56 matey; for example, we could put a dent in the population problem by making all the politicians live on another planet
15:56 matey; even the moon would do
15:56 schestowitz_TR; if putin nukes kiev tonight, nato and eu will do nothing
15:56 schestowitz_TR; they are not obliged to, either
15:57 schestowitz_TR; sad but true
15:57 schestowitz_TR; they will issue "twetes"
15:57 schestowitz_TR; strong condemntation in tweets
15:57 schestowitz_TR; and there will be new colour HASHTAGS
15:57 schestowitz_TR; and the kids will do FB "polls"
15:57 schestowitz_TR; and putin will lol at them
15:57 matey; "it sank"
15:57 matey; :D
15:57 schestowitz_TR; "well, he's dead"
15:58 schestowitz_TR; but at last some US corporations got graft
15:58 schestowitz_TR; 30+ billion dollars from taxpayeras
15:58 schestowitz_TR; for some rocklers shot at russian targets
15:58 schestowitz_TR; ukraine is very, very far from USA
15:58 matey; if we do like lucy from peanuts
15:58 matey; and make everything cost 5 cents
15:59 schestowitz_TR; CENTCOM
15:59 schestowitz_TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Central_Command
15:59 TR Bot; United States Central Command - Wikipedia
15:59 schestowitz_TR; not CENTOS
15:59 schestowitz_TR; but close
15:59 matey; well then it would be 5CENTCOM
15:59 matey; like the pentagon
15:59 schestowitz_TR; CENTOS is or was used a lot by the US Army
15:59 schestowitz_TR; RHEL is better
15:59 schestowitz_TR; it lets the taxpayers pass money to Red Hat workers
15:59 matey; because of inflation its now DOLLAROS
16:00 schestowitz_TR; for nothing
16:00 schestowitz_TR; graft for ICBM
16:00 schestowitz_TR; literal ICBM
16:00 matey; rhel really went to rhell
16:00 schestowitz_TR; ICBM still does arsenal systems for warheads
16:00 matey; missiles that avoid white people and aim at brown ones
16:00 matey; you can just fire them into space and they find their own way
16:01 schestowitz_TR; putin could drop a "Small" nuke just to make a statement
16:01 schestowitz_TR; we didn't think he'd invade ukraine
16:01 schestowitz_TR; but he did
16:01 matey; al jolson may be an acceptable loss
16:01 schestowitz_TR; even the troops on the border did not expect this
16:01 matey; and sarah silverman!
16:02 matey; /me isnt that offended by blackface, but sarah silvermans an idiot anyway
16:02 schestowitz_TR; sarah GOLDman
16:02 schestowitz_TR; goledwoman
16:02 matey; no, she only gave 1m to lie-nux foundation
16:03 matey; so silverman
16:03 schestowitz_TR; golno platinum?
16:03 matey; but she still gets a dozen tweets a year
16:03 schestowitz_TR; no voting power for board
16:03 schestowitz_TR; only half a seat for you
16:03 schestowitz_TR; neaxt to Lady GitHub
16:03 matey; github invented software
16:03 schestowitz_TR; Zemlin selling board seats like clinton sell a chair at their dinners
16:03 matey; it was amazing
16:03 schestowitz_TR; to "raise money"
16:03 schestowitz_TR; noft for TOrval;ds
16:03 schestowitz_TR; for Microsoft openwashing campaigns
16:04 schestowitz_TR; and greenawashing
16:04 schestowitz_TR; joiun OSI today as a member
16:04 matey; Zemlin selling board seats <- yeah, just list the fsf started doing this year
16:04 schestowitz_TR; help promote simplydefined (github)
16:04 matey; but theyre being "classy" about it
16:04 matey; /me thinks its incredible that the fsf has adopted all the tactics of what they oppose
16:04 schestowitz_TR; matey: if you buy a CHAIR NEXT TO THE CLINTONS YOU CAN FART
16:04 matey; /me but not surprising anymore
16:04 schestowitz_TR; AND THEY I INHALE IT
16:05 schestowitz_TR; oops, caps
16:05 matey; truth be told thats why i dont like sarah silverman
16:05 schestowitz_TR; FSF hd that event cancled
16:05 schestowitz_TR; due to COVID-19 in 2020
16:05 schestowitz_TR; but we'll see in physical events
16:05 schestowitz_TR; raising money from sold endorsements
16:06 matey; <schestowitz_TR> Zemlin selling board seats <- https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-expands-process-for-associate-members-to-nominate-new-members-of-the-board
16:06 TR Bot; FSF expands process for associate members to nominate new members of the board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
16:06 matey; "announced today that associate members of the FSF will be able to nominate and evaluate candidates"
16:06 matey; translation: buy candidates
16:06 schestowitz_TR; buy them with cookies?
16:07 matey; look up the cost of membership
16:07 schestowitz_TR; it should be based on meir
16:07 schestowitz_TR; or contribution
16:07 schestowitz_TR; like code
16:07 schestowitz_TR; not money
16:07 schestowitz_TR; but others have said that too
16:07 schestowitz_TR; I would not be the first
16:07 matey; it should cost 5 cents
16:07 schestowitz_TR; otherwise you risk becoming "rich men's club"
16:08 matey; yeah, gosh, it would SUCK if the fsf stopped being about freedom
16:08 matey; and started being entirely about sponsors, marketing and fundraisers
16:08 matey; IF
16:08 schestowitz_TR; matey: at 5 cents you can overwhelm the system
16:08 schestowitz_TR; you need to slow down the 'minting' of new members
16:08 schestowitz_TR; and throttle it down
16:08 schestowitz_TR; like "crypto" "coins"
16:09 matey; but im not, and i cant, and i wont, but-- if https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BTSd4vqnMwo
16:09 TR Bot; Janet Jackson - If - Invidious
16:10 matey; you need to slow down the 'minting' of new members <- selling out to microsoft ought to do that
16:10 matey; but they thought it would help
16:11 matey; one page too many from the open source playbook
16:11 matey; /me only reads the open source playbook for the articles
16:12 matey; i actually get a bit queasy when i see corporations fucking
16:12 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166504
16:12 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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16:12 matey; /me plays steve ballmer at the clippers game again
16:13 SaphirJD; wow... finally i made it to log into here :D
16:13 matey; CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS!
16:13 matey; CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! WOOOOOOO!
16:13 matey; finally i made it to log in <- you dont have to login
16:13 MinceR; s/./Developers! /g
16:14 SaphirJD; matey i know, but still its nice that sasl finally works for me :D
16:14 schestowitz_TR; SaphirJD: hello
16:14 SaphirJD; Hey there!
16:14 matey; but still its nice that sasl finally works for me <- fair point
16:16 SaphirJD; too bad i have forgotten the password of my first registered nick, as i was unable to login to my account i have afterwards not visited here anymore :D
16:18 schestowitz_TR; sasl is anathema to irc
16:18 schestowitz_TR; in very large networks with imposters and people sending passworda and stuff, OK..
16:19 schestowitz_TR; but for irc networks and for the protocol to be sustainable we need thousands of networks
16:19 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166505
16:19 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:20 SaphirJD; I agree, more irc networks would be great
16:20 SaphirJD; brb, i try if i perhaps can remember my origin account
16:20 TR News; Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166506
16:20 TR Bot; Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:20 *SaphirJD has quit (Quit: Leaving)
16:20 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166507
16:20 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:21 MinceR; SASL doesn't have to be mandatory
16:21 MinceR; so i don't see how it's anathema to IRC
16:21 MinceR; it's just another way to log into NickServ
16:22 alf; anyone knew an efnet onion?
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16:22 schestowitz_TR; how many networks have onion addresses?
16:23 schestowitz_TR; https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant
16:23 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:23 alf; without SASL requirements? wouldn't know.
16:23 alf; techrights service is the only acceptable i know.
16:23 SaphirJD; back. Too bad i cant remember my old accounts password anymore, well... then i simply use that from now on :/
16:24 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22062550
16:24 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/xu4558sqs5791.jpg created on 2022-06-25 17:41:40.283633
16:25 TR News; Links 26/06/2022: Windows vs GNU/Linux and Mixtile Edge 2 Kit | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit/
16:25 TR Bot; Links 26/06/2022: Windows vs GNU/Linux and Mixtile Edge 2 Kit | Techrights
16:27 schestowitz_TR; 504 networks https://netsplit.de/networks/
16:27 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:31 matey; <schestowitz_TR> how many networks have onion addresses? <- i think the number grows by the day
16:31 matey; i dont think theres any threat of them taking over though
16:31 matey; its more like babies born in third world countries
16:35 matey; /me checks if the cooler has any water left
16:35 matey; ooh
16:36 matey; its a miracle
16:36 XRevan86; matey: The cooler needs to be about 20% cooler.
16:36 matey; why 20?
16:37 XRevan86; matey: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/20-cooler
16:37 TR Bot; 20% Cooler | Know Your Meme
16:37 matey; ha
16:37 matey; i missed one
16:37 matey; /me didnt expect xrevan to start telling jokes now, but hes as entitled to as anyone else here
16:38 matey; fwiw, it feels about 20% cooler
16:38 XRevan86; I used to do plenty.
16:38 matey; i dont blame you for giving it up
16:38 matey; in a world this ridiculous, its either too much work or too easy
16:39 matey; they tried to make the gnu 20% cooler with sunglasses
16:41 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: 20% cool war
16:41 schestowitz_TR; "turn it up TURN IT UPPP!"
16:42 matey; they should give him a hat that reflects whats happened to the movement, they can get it from scumbag steve
16:42 MinceR; crank it uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
16:44 matey; wow, ning?
16:44 matey; what year is it?
16:44 *XRevan86 doesn't get it.
16:45 matey; /me just found a search result from NING
16:45 matey; i think ning got sucked into the whirlpool that myspace made when it went down
16:46 matey; ning climbed into cyberspace right after the dotcom bubble, as if to say "its cool now, right guys?"
16:46 matey; /me waves
16:49 matey; then they did similar to imagebucket i think
16:49 matey; oh you have a free site, thats nice, well its not free anymore
16:50 matey; then strangely, no one ever posted a link to ning ever again
16:50 matey; it just wasnt that much of a premium
16:51 matey; they basically said "hey, people are so much more into this than twitter and facebook. OH HEY, is that my foot? BANG!!!"
16:51 matey; and then just to kill them a little more, twitter and facebook remained free to join
16:51 matey; oops
16:53 matey; on top of this, ning went premium around the same time things like diaspora were coming out
16:53 matey; o after they shot themselves in the foot, they must have gone for a killshot
16:54 schestowitz_TR; FB and linkedin are also bubbles
16:54 schestowitz_TR; linked tried to reinvent iutself as blogging platform
16:54 matey; diaspora of course, was crap
16:54 schestowitz_TR; and ms spaces collapsed
16:54 matey; but it also lasted longer than ning in terms of relevance
16:54 schestowitz_TR; *msn
16:54 matey; hehehehe msn
16:54 schestowitz_TR; ning or xing?
16:54 matey; msn was inspired by the betamax player
16:55 matey; ning or xing <- ning is so insignificant you think im talking about something else!
16:55 schestowitz_TR; https://www.ning.com/ ?
16:55 TR Bot; your own social network with the best community website builder - NING
16:55 schestowitz_TR; https://www.ning.com/ ?
16:55 matey; it cant be ning, ive never even heard of it
16:55 matey; must be "xing" then
16:55 schestowitz_TR; https://www.ning.com/
16:55 matey; ning.com
16:55 schestowitz_TR; https://www.xing.com/
16:55 TR Bot; Ideen fr eine neue Arbeitswelt
16:55 schestowitz_TR; the german rival
16:55 matey; rutube.ru
16:55 schestowitz_TR; the xing lists
16:56 schestowitz_TR; stored on icbm punchcards
16:56 matey; i was disappointed to find that ru paul didnt have their own video host!
16:56 matey; its some russian youtube thing
16:56 matey; /me thinks ru paul tube would be cooler
16:56 schestowitz_TR; which paul?
16:56 schestowitz_TR; rand
16:56 schestowitz_TR; or ron?
16:56 schestowitz_TR; gulag censored him
16:56 schestowitz_TR; around the wave of latest culls
16:56 matey; /me pictures rand paul in makeup
16:56 schestowitz_TR; probably using covid as a pretext
16:56 matey; ron i guess!
16:56 MinceR; russian paul
16:57 schestowitz_TR; https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/business/youtube-rand-paul-covid-masks.html
16:57 TR Bot; YouTube Suspends Rand Paul Over Video Disputing Mask Benefits - The New York Times
16:57 schestowitz_TR; https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/rand-paul-youtube-suspension/index.html
16:57 TR Bot; suspends Rand Paul for seven days - CNN
16:57 schestowitz_TR; 7 dass means last warning
16:57 schestowitz_TR; 4th strike
16:57 schestowitz_TR; oh, wait
16:57 schestowitz_TR; no, that's twitter
16:57 schestowitz_TR; https://www.thewrap.com/rand-paul-youtube-ban/
16:57 TR Bot; Rand Paul Suspended by YouTube for Video Questioning Mask Effectiveness
16:57 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=igQlbesF0zA
16:57 TR Bot; "Ron Paul" A BLR Soundbite - Invidious
16:58 schestowitz_TR; there is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Paul
16:58 TR Bot; Logan Paul - Wikipedia
16:58 schestowitz_TR; back when gulagtube actually tried to reard SOME "creatores"
16:58 schestowitz_TR; *reward
16:58 schestowitz_TR; https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/11/rand-paul-youtube-ban-face-masks-503742
16:58 TR Bot; Paul cut off from YouTube for a week following criticism of face masks - POLITICO
16:58 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ru_Paul
16:58 TR Bot; RuPaul - Wikipedia
16:58 schestowitz_TR; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/11/youtube-suspends-rand-paul-covid-masks
16:58 TR Bot; YouTube suspends Rand Paul for video claiming masks dont prevent infection | YouTube | The Guardian
16:58 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/
16:59 TR Bot; Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
16:59 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
16:59 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
16:59 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
16:59 TR Bot; Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
16:59 matey; /me wonders if xrevan86 can translate "SKRELNIG" to something or if its gibberish
16:59 schestowitz_TR; welcome to the 21st century www
17:00 schestowitz_TR; controlled by saudis, gates, musk..
17:00 matey; its allegedly russian, most likely very informal
17:00 matey; possibly made up
17:01 matey; /me will be sure to ask herr doktor sixel if its of german origins like everything else
17:02 matey; das linux! now with free armbands
17:02 schestowitz_TR; frie
17:02 schestowitz_TR; freedom started in germany
17:02 matey; frei as in freihoit
17:03 schestowitz_TR; Gute Fahrt
17:03 matey; freedom started in germany <- it was the first thing they invented after irony
17:03 schestowitz_TR; that always makes me chuckle
17:03 schestowitz_TR; in ski resorts and stuch
17:03 matey; Gute Fahrt <- i didnt know anyone noticed *blush*
17:04 matey; yeah i imaine theres a few phrases that dont survive learning english
17:05 matey; but if youre on skis youll be gone before anyone knows you did it
17:05 matey; if anything it might give you the lead!
17:05 matey; das propellunt und skijetten
17:06 matey; no i think thats swedish
17:06 matey; "ski" polish!
17:06 matey; skis were invented in poland obviously
17:06 matey; ironically, ski poles were not
17:07 alf; po-land... po is the butt
17:07 XRevan86; > matey wonders if xrevan86 can translate "SKRELNIG" to something or if its gibberish
17:07 alf; german po
17:07 XRevan86; Makes no sense to me.
17:08 matey; its from clerks
17:08 matey; probably adlibbed
17:08 matey; /me doesnt even think it sounds that russian
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17:09 alf; matey: wanted to ask while ago already. are you involved with any free software project?
17:09 XRevan86; matey: Sounds German to me subjectively.
17:09 matey; technically a few of them
17:10 matey; though to make it clearer
17:10 matey; probably none youve heard of
17:10 matey; nothing high profile at all
17:10 alf; just curious, any link to some of it?
17:10 matey; yeah hold on
17:11 matey; https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170102
17:12 TR Bot; Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.
17:12 matey; read the last article from robert storey
17:12 matey; it was submitted to the editor by storey, i wrote it
17:12 matey; note thats 5 years ago
17:15 alf; w3m browser is confusing me... to navigate to what the project was
17:15 alf; i see tiny core linux is listed as an article
17:16 matey; w3m browser is confusing me... <- are you the one that uses windows and freebsd?
17:16 matey; yes i know how weird that sounds
17:16 matey; i think he used w3m as well
17:16 alf; what is the project's name, to search for?
17:17 matey; try this article instead https://techrights.org/2019/08/10/fig-project/
17:17 TR Bot; Guest Post: Why I Wrote Fig (the Computer Language That Helps Techrights Operations) | Techrights
17:17 matey; that will work in w3m
17:23 alf; thanks
17:23 matey; sure, its a weird question though
17:24 matey; when someone i dont know asks " are you involved with any free software project?" im just as curious what made them curious
17:24 matey; you could have asked mincer, hes a software engineer
17:25 matey; or fuzzy, hes a nazi distro developer
17:25 matey; SORRY, i mean "german nationalist"
17:25 matey; /me wouldnt want to offend
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17:27 alf; Nazophobia
17:27 matey; yes, its a common trait among human beings
17:27 matey; authoriphobia
17:27 matey; people who fear or hate authoritarians
17:27 matey; (or authors)
17:28 matey; of course if you ask him, its not authoritarianism if it protects the HOMELAND :)
17:29 matey; which is funny to me, thats basically what donald rumsfeld said too
17:29 alf; respecting national borders is not authoritarian, it is international law
17:29 matey; oh well
17:29 matey; if theres one thing hitler and donald rumsfeld are INFAMOUS for
17:29 matey; its respecting borders
17:30 matey; especially those of poland and iraq
17:30 matey; and france, and... i dont think we need to list them all
17:30 alf; quid-pro-quo
17:30 matey; russia was BLOWN AWAY by how much their
17:31 matey; borders were respected
17:31 matey; quid-pro-quo <- as hannibal lechter was known for saying
17:31 matey; and probably caesar as well
17:31 matey; another well known respecter of borders
17:32 matey; israel respects borders far more than it respects international law
17:32 matey; sometimes to the exclusion of everything else
17:32 matey; they know where the border is supposed to be-- and they have the UTMOST respect for it
17:33 matey; even when it keeps moving farther away from their capital, they chase after it with the greatest respect
17:33 matey; they dont even let houses get in their way
17:33 matey; theyre very determined to show how respectful they are
17:35 matey; respecting national borders is not authoritarian <- i thinks its naive to suggest that theres no such thing as an authoritarian approach to borders
17:35 matey; there are authoritarian approaches to most issues really
17:36 matey; the issue itself does nothing to negate the nature of the approach to the issue
17:36 matey; (of which lieplanet is a prime example)
17:36 matey; (also comically authoritarian)
17:36 matey; (they literally have an oath!)
17:37 matey; the issue itself does nothing to negate the nature of the approach to the issue <- its incredible that anyone with half a clue can get away from this fact
17:37 matey; like it isnt obvious enough
17:37 matey; "its not authoritarianism! its PROTECTING BORDERS!"
17:38 MinceR; borders > people
17:38 matey; they have 5 year olds that spot the fallacy there
17:38 matey; if anything, people are the biggest problem with protecting borders
17:39 matey; if we could just get rid of them, our borders would probably be safe
17:39 matey; guns dont threaten our borders, PEOPLE do!
17:40 alf; schengen-agreement, relied on EU-border protection for free internal roaming
17:40 matey; theres no point in denying it, people are a huge problem
17:40 alf; that's a fact, wether it hurts your feelings or not
17:40 matey; hitler wanted to solve the people problem but he was too compromising
17:40 matey; in the end he said "i know! lets just figure out which people we dont like, and solve THOSE"
17:41 matey; that's a fact, wether it hurts your feelings or not <- if by feelings you mean having two clues to rub together
17:41 matey; sociopaths and morons think theyre naturally superior
17:41 matey; which one are you?
17:41 matey; im not trying to be picky, maybe youre both
17:42 MinceR; hitler was way too picky
17:42 matey; probably anal retentive
17:42 matey; maybe he was toilet trained at gunpoint
17:42 matey; after irony, then freedom, i think germans invented ocd
17:43 matey; they would have done so a lot sooner but they wanted to get it "just right"
17:44 alf; more than a dozen million of germans were deported from their homelands
17:44 matey; are you german?
17:45 matey; do you know lennart?
17:45 matey; how many sausages are in your icebox?
17:46 matey; you can tell me
17:46 matey; my family fled germany (their HOMELAND) because it was being run by fucking idiots
17:47 matey; who whinge like insane bitches about how people dare to cross the borders
17:47 matey; UNDER THEIR OWN FUCKING LAWS!
17:47 matey; dont they teach basic literacy and simple first-year logic in german schools anymore?
17:48 matey; i dont know, based on what i see from the internet they clearly stopped at some point
17:48 matey; maybe because they were afraid immigrants would use logic against them
17:48 alf; logic
17:48 matey; yes, what you call "Feelings"
17:48 TR News; Next stage is: meat eaters excluded from "ethical source" https://blogs.fsfe.org/franz.gratzer/2022/06/26/fsfe-information-stand-at-veganmania-mq-2022/
17:48 TR Bot; FSFE Information stand at Veganmania MQ 2022 FSFE supporters Vienna
17:48 matey; but thats telling
17:49 matey; like your own frothing paranoia isnt what you have the audacity to call "logic"
17:49 schestowitz_TR; got butter?
17:49 matey; i mean
17:49 matey; youre projecting
17:49 schestowitz_TR; sorry, no open source for you !! -soup nazi
17:49 schestowitz_TR; FSFE searching for a purpose
17:49 MinceR; isn't that the open source nazi?
17:49 matey; FSFE searching for a purpose <- i can think of lots of useful things for them to do
17:50 matey; landmine detection, for example
17:50 schestowitz_TR; "The front of our stall was covered with a big FSFE banner while the sides are used for posters explaining the four freedoms and GnuPG email encryption."
17:50 matey; The front of our stall <- gents?
17:50 matey; explaining the four freedoms <- oh, they didnt cancel those?
17:50 schestowitz_TR; they appropirate them
17:50 matey; thats true
17:50 MinceR; they just pretend to promote those while promoting software that infringes on them
17:51 schestowitz_TR; and then ask FSF supporters in Europe to shell over the money to kirschner
17:51 matey; they just pretend to promote those while promoting software that infringes on them <- just another idea they stole from the fsf
17:51 schestowitz_TR; instead of those "extremists" in boston
17:51 matey; and then ask FSF supporters in Europe to shell over the money to kirschner <- the free software apartheid foundation
17:51 matey; help us support free software apartheid! join today!
17:52 TR News; liburing outsourced to Microsoft Proprietary Software... BAZZZT! Wrong approach. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=liburing-2.2
17:52 TR Bot; 2.2 Released For Easier IO_uring Usage On Linux - Phoronix
17:53 matey; instead of those "extremists" in boston <- the two kids with the killer kitchenware?
17:54 matey; wearing scumbag steve hats? (im sorry steve, i know youre innocent)
17:54 schestowitz_TR; fsfe is losing it
17:54 schestowitz_TR; because
17:54 schestowitz_TR; 1) bad reputation
17:54 schestowitz_TR; 2) bad reaction
17:54 matey; 3) full of sheisse
17:54 schestowitz_TR; like attacking their exposers
17:55 schestowitz_TR; now trying to deplatform them from twitter
17:55 schestowitz_TR; and from debian
17:55 schestowitz_TR; etc.
17:55 schestowitz_TR; like hitler would do
17:55 matey; frei sheisse foundation epo
17:55 schestowitz_TR; kill the ones you don't agree with
17:55 schestowitz_TR; problem solves
17:55 schestowitz_TR; *solved
17:55 matey; sometimes it works
17:55 MinceR; gratis scheisse
17:55 matey; but when youre doing it wholesale in your own fucking country, people will talk!
17:56 schestowitz_TR; fsfe attacks have harmed debian
17:56 schestowitz_TR; they spilled over to another project
17:56 matey; gnome aint helping either
17:56 MinceR; have they contributed to debian betraying its userbase?
17:56 matey; <MinceR> have they contributed to debian betraying its userbase? <- redundant
17:56 matey; debians got that one covered
17:56 matey; i saw a place the other day with debians logo
17:56 matey; i mean
17:56 matey; it LOOKS like debians logo
17:57 matey; its the same colour
17:57 MinceR; yeah, and after it, debian is just irrelevant
17:57 matey; its the same shape
17:57 MinceR; "oh look, i can get the same thing as fedora, except somehow even jankier?"
17:57 matey; its your computer
17:57 matey; its 5 months old, you need better one
17:58 MinceR; with windows preinstalled
17:58 MinceR; and now you're years ahead of systemd/Linux
17:58 matey; "my god... its full of shit"
17:58 matey; "stars, stars"
17:58 matey; "oh yeah"
17:59 schestowitz_TR; systemd-shitd
17:59 matey; sheissed
17:59 alf; FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore
17:59 alf; so, why bother?
17:59 matey; they host the mailing list for tinycc
18:00 matey; <alf> FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore <- oh its you
18:00 matey; how often are you going to change your handle now
18:00 matey; goosestep a new step today?
18:00 schestowitz_TR; activelow aka fuzzy
18:00 alf; huh?
18:01 matey; you dont think were that stupid, do you?
18:01 matey; well, you probably do
18:01 *alf reads scrollback
18:01 matey; <alf> FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore <- oh its you
18:02 MinceR; how are you gentlemen !!
18:02 MinceR; all your base are belong to us.
18:02 matey; most of the western europe ones at least
18:02 matey; we can try eastern eur-- oh, shit!
18:02 matey; didnt work for napoleon either
18:03 matey; doesnt look like its even going to work for putlin, and he was fucking born there
18:03 matey; step 1. emulate napoleon
18:03 matey; step 2. invade shit
18:03 matey; step 3. waterloo
18:04 matey; he was good at annexing, less good at holding onto it
18:04 matey; hitler, same
18:05 matey; britain was better at holding onto things, but like caesar
18:05 matey; eventually whole nations escaped
18:05 matey; some of them were really big nations
18:06 matey; fortunately the royal family still has some of the money
18:06 matey; i mean, i presume thats how it works
18:06 matey; one is only HALF a billionaire, isnt one?
18:06 matey; so not MUCH of that money
18:07 matey; still, one didnt get it selling crocheted oven mitts on etsy
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18:08 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M8JO51TLGgg
18:08 TR Bot; One - Invidious
18:11 matey; its funny because
18:11 matey; you need a more powerful military to hold onto shit than to take it over in the first place
18:11 matey; so a lot of people are like "ill have that one, and that one-- and then when theyre mine ill use them to-- oh, god, what the hell is going on?"
18:12 matey; youd think if they read enough history theyd have noticed this by now
18:12 matey; but then history is told by the victors, eh?
18:12 matey; and generally while things are still going well
18:20 schestowitz_TR; victors... and vladminirs
18:21 schestowitz_TR; on V-Day
18:21 TR News; "My trip to the city has been a failure. I lost the war against calories. It has been more than a week and I have not stuck to my diet plan. I feel bloated. Hence I came here, to talk about it. I am going to start tomorrow, of course." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1037
18:23 TR News; "Should the Transjovian Council ever expand to more than just one person, then we're going to work out some governance for this space I'm thinking about a non-profit association according to Swiss law." gemini://transjovian.org/page/Introduction
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:33 TR News; Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-mint/ Source: DebugPoint | GNU | Linux
18:33 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-mint/ )
18:38 TR News; "Another foreigner is unlikely to be offered the red carpet on arrival to the land of the free: investigative journalist Julian Assanges extradition to the U.S. was approved by U.K. authorities. The president reiterated his objection to Assanges imprisonment." https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/statue-of-liberty-news-conferences/
18:38 TR Bot; Taking away the Statue of Liberty: the week's morning news conferences
18:40 TR News; "The people are calling for the release of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Blow-for-British-PM-as-Conservatives-Lose-Two-Parliament-Seats-20220624-0006.html
18:40 TR Bot; NO TITLE
18:41 TR News; "If President Biden really cared about press freedom, he would have canceled the extradition request months ago." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/britain-exradition-julian-assange/
18:41 TR Bot; Americas Lapdog Britain Moves to Extradite Julian Assange | The Nation
18:41 TR News; "We are demanding that Julian Assange be freed, he returned to his family, and finally permitted to live a normal life," she stressed. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Coalition-of-Journalists-Demands-Release-of-Julian-Assange-20220623-0007.html
18:41 TR Bot; Coalition of Journalists Demands Release of Julian Assange | News | teleSUR English
18:42 TR News; Andrew P. Napolitano: Julian Assange and Personal Freedom https://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2022/06/22/julian-assange-and-personal-freedom/
18:42 TR Bot; Julian Assange and Personal Freedom - Antiwar.com Original
18:43 TR News; "China and the U.S. should focus on developing their relations based on mutual respect and peaceful coexistence. As the world's leading economies, the two nations need to avoid conflict by boosting efforts to build a broader dialogue." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Seeks-To-Contain-China-on-Xinjiang-Issue-20220622-0022.html
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18:44 TR Bot; US Seeks To Contain China on Xinjiang Issue | News | teleSUR English
18:44 TR News; Outcry for Assange oddly absent for those held by China https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/outcry-for-assange-oddly-absent-for-those-held-by-china/
18:44 TR Bot; Outcry for Assange oddly absent for those held by China | The Strategist
18:45 TR News; "the threat to free speech and the reported C.I.A. plot to kidnap or kill Assange before his arrest." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/22/assange-put-on-suicide-watch-after-patel-decision-father-says/
18:45 TR Bot; Put on Suicide Watch After Patel Decision, Father Says scheerpost.com
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18:49 TR News; Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166508
18:49 TR Bot; Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone | Tux Machines
18:50 TR News; ((US WANTS A STRONG PRECEDENT: you expose OUR war crimes, we'll KILL you) AMLO to bring up case of Wikileaks founder Assange during Biden meeting https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/amlo-to-bring-up-case-of-wikileaks-founder-assange-during-meeting-with-biden/ Source: mexiconewsdaily
18:50 TR Bot; AMLO to bring up case of Wikileaks founder Assange during Biden meeting
18:51 TR News; Its Time for Australia to Demand Julian Assanges Release https://jacobin.com/2022/06/julian-assange-australia-labor-albanese-diplomacy/ Source: jacobin
18:51 TR Bot; Its Time for Australia to Demand Julian Assanges Release
18:52 TR News; "Assange's wife vowed to fight using every possible legal avenue." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-21/mexico-president-will-ask-biden-to-look-into-wikileaks-assange-case
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18:54 TR News; Don't be a journalist in Australia. The government will execute you for ANOTHER nation... if you 'embarrass' it https://www.theage.com.au/national/government-right-to-avoid-megaphone-diplomacy-on-assange-joe-hockey-says-20220621-p5avdk.html
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18:55 TR News; China: Assange Case Reflects US & UK Hypocrisy on Press Freedom https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/China-Assange-Case-Reflects-US--UK-Hypocrisy-on-Press-Freedom-20220620-0023.html Source: telesurenglish
18:55 TR Bot; China: Assange Case Reflects US & UK Hypocrisy on Press Freedom | News | teleSUR English
18:56 TR News; West/NATO: we don't need to properly respond to allegations and evidence of war crimes. We just need to torture and then kill the person proving it and scare anyone else who thinks about doing the same. IOW, same as Russia and China.
18:58 TR News; "The first thing that comes to mind for me is using executive pardon capabilities for Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, but the list certainly doesn't stop there." https://reason.com/podcast/2022/06/20/biden-falls-off-the-metaphorical-bike/ even if Biden 'pardoned' Snowden, I doubt Putin would set Snowden free (to fly)
18:58 TR Bot; Biden Falls Off the Metaphorical Bike
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 TR News; "In an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporations (ABC) Radio National on Monday, Stella Assange stated that journalist Julian Assange's health is rapidly deteriorating while he remains a prisoner in London's Belmarsh prison." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Julian-Assanges-Health-Is-Deteriorating-His-Wife-Warns-20220620-0009.html "suffered a minor stroke in October 2021."
18:59 TR Bot; Julian Assange's Health Is Deteriorating, His Wife Warns | News | teleSUR English
19:00 TR News; Public had a right to know what Assange exposed https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/public-had-a-right-to-know-what-assange-exposed-20220620-p5auzh.html
19:00 TR Bot; Public had a right to know what Assange exposed
19:01 TR News; "The global ruling class is cementing into place a world where they govern without accountability, we are reduced to serfdom, the climate crisis accelerates, and mass death is normalized. [...] Julian Assange, the most important publisher of our generation" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/20/hedges-the-triumph-of-death
19:01 TR Bot; The Triumph of Death scheerpost.com
19:02 TR News; Human culling in the UK: 200,000 dead and our regime lifted all restrictions, now hides the extent of the spread of COVID-19.
19:02 TR News; Former foreign minister says Australia should demand Assange release https://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-news-live-former-foreign-minister-says-australia-should-demand-assange-release-omicron-wave-was-twice-the-size-of-recorded-cases-20220620-p5auyf.html
19:02 TR Bot; Australia news LIVE: Former foreign minister says Australia should demand Assange release; Omicron wave was twice the size of recorded cases
19:04 TR News; "Australia's prime minister said Monday (June 20) he will engage "diplomatically" over the US prosecution of Julian Assange, but he is standing by earlier remarks questioning the purpose of further legal action." IANAL, but they can initiate legal action against UK and/or US to halt the extradition of THEIR citizen. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australian-pm-hopes-for-diplomatic-progress-in-assange-legal-saga
19:04 TR Bot; Australian PM hopes for diplomatic progress in Assange legal saga | The Straits Times
19:04 TR News; Like an Empire's Bunny https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-20/australian-leader-refuses-to-publicly-intervene-on-assange
19:05 TR News; "Crimes have been committed, and examples DO need to made of the criminals who committed them." https://original.antiwar.com/thomas-knapp/2022/06/19/free-assange-yes-but-thats-not-nearly-enough/
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19:06 TR News; "In an op-ed for the Sydney Morning Herald, Mr Carr argued that Assange's prosecution stood in sharp contrast to the US pardoning former military intelligence officer Chelsea Manning, who had leaked the secret files to WikiLeaks." https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/ex-australian-foreign-minister-bob-carr-urges-assanges-freedom
19:06 matey; victors... and vladminirs <- victorski victorova
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19:07 TR News; "He is effectively a political prisoner, an example to other journalists who would dare expose US war crimes. His lawyer, Jennifer Robinson, has said the Australian government needs to ask the Biden administration to drop the spying charges." https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/pm-s-intervention-crucial-to-save-assange-from-life-in-jail-20220619-p5aut2.html
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19:07 matey; the russian spy who disguised herself as a male spy disguised as a female ally
19:08 matey; known to most people as jill stein
19:08 TR News; "Though hes not a Russian national, has never lived in the country, nor was he there when he committed his supposed crime,..." https://jacobin.com/2022/06/julian-assange-trial-updates/
19:08 TR Bot; We Would Never Tolerate Julian Assanges Persecution If Any Other Country Carried It Out
19:09 TR News; Assange: In the interests of justice bring him home https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/assange-in-the-interests-of-justice-bring-him-home-20220619-p5auvp.html
19:09 TR Bot; Assange: In the interests of justice bring him home
19:10 TR News; We are not at the end of the road, we are going to fight this, Stella Assange, the publishers wife, told the press conference. We are going to spend every waking hour fighting for Julian until he is free, until justice is served. https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/18/stella-assange-we-are-going-to-f
19:10 TR Bot; Assange: We Are Going to Fight This scheerpost.com
19:10 schestowitz_TR; matey: funny you mention here
19:10 schestowitz_TR; only hours ago I recalled her kremlin triup
19:10 matey; i dont know if shes a russian agent
19:10 schestowitz_TR; because i saw that Max Seiser had taken some photos outside the kremlin
19:11 schestowitz_TR; those things never age well
19:11 matey; personally i think shes cute
19:11 schestowitz_TR; she is nice
19:11 schestowitz_TR; I interacted with her in 2016
19:12 matey; stallmans a green supporter, he may have spoken with her before his trip to microsoft
19:12 matey; something they have in common-- wrong place, wrong time
19:12 TR News; Our right to the truth https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/our-right-to-the-truth-20220618-p5auq5.html
19:12 TR Bot; Our right to the truth
19:12 schestowitz_TR; RMS was trippin'
19:13 schestowitz_TR; I asked him to explain
19:13 matey; but the media is very opportunistic with things like that
19:13 schestowitz_TR; he wrote an essay
19:13 schestowitz_TR; and then the media started attacking him
19:13 matey; I asked him to explain <- he wrote an essay <- thats certainly true to form
19:13 schestowitz_TR; about totally unrelated things
19:13 schestowitz_TR; same as the theme about Gates and Epstein in MIT
19:13 matey; e an essay <- thats certainly true to form
19:13 schestowitz_TR; MIT:
19:13 matey; #techrights : 06/26/22 18:13 <schestowitz_TR> <- true to form for them too
19:13 schestowitz_TR; crime: sending an email that might insult someone
19:14 schestowitz_TR; night a crime: bribing MIT while working behind the scene for child sex trsafficker
19:14 matey; mit are a bunch of bastards
19:14 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
19:14 TR Bot; Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
19:14 matey; first they killed aaron, then they tried to off stallman
19:14 schestowitz_TR; like the swartz report
19:14 schestowitz_TR; some "investigation"
19:15 schestowitz_TR; overup job with glossy paper
19:15 matey; awful
19:15 schestowitz_TR; wasting institution's resources
19:15 schestowitz_TR; to add insult to injury
19:15 matey; well i hope they hope they end up sponsored by coca cola
19:15 matey; or spam
19:16 TR News; "The spokesman for Assange's legal team in Ecuador, lawyer Carlos Poveda, has cast doubt this Friday that the U.S. justice system will abide by due process in the case of Julian Assange if he is tried in this country." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Assanges-Defense-No-Guarantees-of-Fair-Trial-in-the-US-20220618-0004.html
19:16 TR Bot; Assanges Defense: No Guarantees of Fair Trial in the US | News | teleSUR English
19:16 matey; "the hormel nanotechnology wing"
19:16 matey; not an unlikely sponsor, they already use microphages
19:17 TR News; The UK's Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UK's Freedom Lectures Are a Farce https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-uks-decision-to-extradite-assange
19:17 TR Bot; The UK's Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UK's Freedom Lectures Are a Farce
19:17 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svMuGhYqNnw
19:17 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=svMuGhYqNnw
19:17 matey; they could just go organic, instead theyd rather have factory farming and early 20th century russian science experiments
19:17 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | MC Hawking - The Hawkman Cometh - Invidious
19:17 matey; dont get me wrong, microphage research will probably save lives someday
19:18 TR News; "The president of the European Federations of Journalists, Maja Sever, described the British decision as "shameful" and said it would cheer "the autocrats and the enemies of press freedom."" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Journalists-Federations-Condemn-Assanges-Extradition-20220617-0015.html
19:18 TR Bot; Journalist's Federations Condemn Assange's Extradition | News | teleSUR English
19:18 matey; but its a shame that hormel needs to be so experimental with meat theyre already fucking around with
19:18 matey; (it didnt pan out for the russians though)
19:19 matey; (dont know if that was under the same scientist that believed genes store your personality)
19:19 matey; (like literally)
19:19 matey; lamark?
19:19 TR News; "other facts have emerged that could form part of the cross appeal. The C.I.A. plot against Assange was further corroborated by U.S. officials in a Yahoo! News report. A key U.S. witness on computer charges against Assange recanted his testimony. And Assanges health has further deteriorated when he suffered a mini-stroke last October." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/17/home-secretary-signs-assange-extradition-order/
19:19 TR Bot; Secretary Signs Assange Extradition Order scheerpost.com
19:19 matey; he thought mendel was a quack!
19:20 matey; sort of like herr doktor thinks einstein was an ignorant child
19:21 matey; the fuhrer, now there was a painter
19:21 TR News; Some days left: "WikiLeaks said it would challenge the order, and Assange's lawyers have 14 days to lodge an appeal." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-17/uk-govt-approves-extradition-of-assange-appeal-possible
19:21 matey; he could do an entire apartment in one hour-- TWO COATS
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19:22 TR News; "WikiLeaks revealed US military documents that some authorities believe jeopardized national security, but Assanges partner Stella Moris thinks the US government continues to target Assange for other reasons." https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/06/uk-home-secretary-approves-assange-extradition-to-us/
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19:23 TR News; CNET relaying the lies: "If convicted, Assange could receive up to a 175-year jail sentence, although the US government has said he would likely face a sentence of between four and six years." https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/julian-assange-us-extradition-given-green-light-by-uk-home-secretary/
19:23 TR Bot; Assange US Extradition Given Green Light by UK Home Secretary - CNET
19:23 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvOEFr03ea8
19:23 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=qvOEFr03ea8
19:23 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | MC Hawking - All My Shootings Be Drivebys - Invidious
19:24 TR News; "This is a dark day for Press freedom and for British democracy. Anyone in this country who cares about freedom of expression should be deeply ashamed." https://reason.com/2022/06/17/u-k-approves-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-the-u-s/
19:24 TR Bot; U.K. Approves Julian Assanges Extradition to the U.S.
19:25 TR News; "Assange is currently in the high-security Belmarsh Prison in London, where he has been held since being dragged out of the Ecuadorian embassy in London three years ago." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html
19:25 TR Bot; Julian Assange's extradition to US approved by UK government - CNN
19:26 TR News; "Around the world people and organizations such as Amnesty International voice distrust over the U.S. court systems ability to handle this case fairly" https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2022/0617/Journalist-or-spy-WikiLeaks-founder-to-face-U.S.-trial
19:26 TR Bot; orders extradition of WikiLeaks founder Assange to face U.S. trial - CSMonitor.com
19:28 TR News; "The STM32 has an IDE that has a pin configurator. I wondered if perhaps we could code at a higher level than C by using some other kind of generator. I decided to see if Guile could be used as a generator language. I'm really just dabbling at this stage to see if I could get something working." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-26-guile-mcu.gmi
19:29 matey; what happens if youre in a biplane and the top or bottom wings fall off
19:29 matey; do you glide to the ground or just become a rock
19:30 TR News; Two-tier(ed) legal system? NO! Law for some people. NO law for a few. The latter isn't another legal system but an absence of one. Not enforced anyway. See EPO and US Army.
19:30 TR News; US accountability = megaCoC
19:31 schestowitz_TR; matey: you jump at the lake
19:31 schestowitz_TR; I've often wondered
19:31 schestowitz_TR; say you jump from a plane without mask or equipment into the sea
19:31 schestowitz_TR; and hit the water perfectly
19:32 schestowitz_TR; any chance of survival?
19:32 schestowitz_TR; I am guessing you need to lie down on the way down
19:32 schestowitz_TR; fo drag, to slow down
19:32 schestowitz_TR; and then hit the water toe first
19:32 *schestowitz_TR searches a bit
19:33 schestowitz_TR; https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/jump-airplane-sea-water-without-parachute-survival-free-fall.html
19:33 TR Bot; What If You Jump Out Of A Plane Without A Parachute?
19:35 schestowitz_TR; "Before actually jumping out, you should try to find a large object that you can ride during your imminent free fall. In other words, be a wreckage rider (a term coined by Jim Hamilton, a historian who compiled an online database of every imaginable human plummet). Your chances of surviving such a deadly plunge might improve slightly when youre somehow padded by semi-protective debris that will absorb some of the enor
19:35 schestowitz_TR; mous amount of energy youll experience when you land on the waters surface.
19:35 schestowitz_TR; "
19:36 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2206258
19:36 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mm1ld39yrs391.jpg created on 2022-06-25 02:53:31.364041
19:38 matey; you still have to wonder about someone who insists on doing that
19:39 matey; /me thinks of nicholas cage
19:39 matey; i mean if they have no other choice, thats different obviously. but setting it up on purpose?
19:40 schestowitz_TR; seems hopeless as a strategy
19:40 schestowitz_TR; based on the above, you need a lot of large objects for drag
19:41 schestowitz_TR; to break off the impact's pressure
19:41 schestowitz_TR; like a bike's helmet
19:41 schestowitz_TR; maybe fake wings
19:41 schestowitz_TR; like very large things around your torso
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19:41 schestowitz_TR; that would not break from the wind on the way down
19:42 schestowitz_TR; maybe it you hit the water at 60 m/hour you can be OK
19:42 schestowitz_TR; not 180
19:42 schestowitz_TR; the good news is,
19:42 schestowitz_TR; you will like suffer less by jumping into a volcano
19:43 schestowitz_TR; I wonder how altitude gliders can handle
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19:44 matey; if they live, ill give them that it was cool and everything
19:44 matey; theyre still certifiable though
19:44 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vFiBttsG1DY
19:44 TR Bot; High altitude Hang Gliding - Invidious
19:45 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Pd9OFHehFu8
19:45 TR Bot; Hang Gliding World Altitude Record - 36,700 feet June 1984 - Invidious
19:45 schestowitz_TR; 1984
19:47 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=csDRdqMH3Kk
19:47 TR Bot; The flight that almost killed me - Invidious
19:51 TR News; Two types of privacy gemini://seirdy.one/posts/2022/06/25/two-types-of-privacy/index.gmi "Threat modelling provides important context to security and privacy advice. Measures necessary to protect against an advanced threat are different from those effective against unsophisticated threats"
19:53 TR News; What about Team Trump? This is a two-party problem. Graft and waste. https://reason.com/2022/06/21/6-trillion-covid-spending-team-biden-complaining-lack-pandemic-funds/
19:53 TR Bot; Biden Complains About COVID Funds After Already Spending $6 Trillion
19:54 TR News; "Part of the concern about patents in the growing psychedelic industry, is that once a patent is granted, it is costly and laborious to challenge itwith no guarantee of success. At the end of last year, the non-profit Freedom to Operate challenged two patents on a synthetic form of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/93a5x3/judges-deny-challenge-to-psilocybin-patent
19:54 TR Bot; Judges Deny Challenge to Psilocybin Patent
19:56 TR News; Raiding the domestic Taliban (GOP)? https://www.twincities.com/2022/06/23/feds-search-trump-era-officials-home-subpoena-gop-leaders/
19:56 TR Bot; Feds search Trump-era officials home, subpoena GOP leaders Twin Cities
19:57 TR News; A linguist weighs in on Ohio State Universitys trademark on the word the https://qz.com/2181567/ohio-state-secures-the-trademark-for-the-word-the/
19:57 TR Bot; Ohio State secures the trademark for the word "THE" Quartz
19:59 TR News; Patents that literally kill millions of people for billions in profits https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/06/wto-reaches-agreements-including-covid-19-vaccine-patent-waiver-and-ban-on-subsidies-for-illegal-fishing/
19:59 TR Bot; WTO agreements include COVID-19 vaccine patent waiver and ban on subsidies for illegal fishing - JURIST - News
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19:59 TR News; Appalling slant, as if this favours the poor somshow? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/asset-economy-high-interest-rates-inflation/661323/
19:59 TR Bot; Why Stocks, Crypto, and Home Values Are All Plunging at Once - The Atlantic
20:01 TR News; "And part of the obstacle is big pharma got inserted, into so-called free trade agreements, binding obligations on countries to maintain and enforce these monopolies, which are government-created monopoly licenses called patents" https://fair.org/home/a-handful-of-billionaire-companies-have-monopoly-control-over-life-saving-medicines/
20:01 TR Bot; 'A Handful of Billionaire Companies Have Monopoly Control Over Life-Saving Medicines' - FAIR
20:02 TR News; "Chan Zuckerberg Initiative" creeping into more things, just like the Bill and Lolita gates Foundation https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/16/1053758/running-tide-seaweed-kelp-scientist-departures-ecological-concerns-climate-carbon-removal/
20:02 TR Bot; Running Tide is facing scientist departures and growing concerns | MIT Technology Review
20:03 TR News; "The Polish DPA fined a car trailer manufacturer approximately 3,492 (16,000 PLN) for failing to report a data breach which involved the loss of an employee's employment certificate." https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=UODO_(Poland)_-_DKN.5110.12.2021
20:03 TR Bot; UODO (Poland) - DKN.5110.12.2021 - GDPRhub
20:04 TR News; "Court filing reveals CIA director Gina Haspel participated directly in the spy agencys black site illegal torture program while fellow officer Kiriakou was imprisoned for exposing it." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/14/john-kiriakou-the-triumph-of-bloody-gina-the-cias-torture-queen/
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20:04 TR Bot; Kiriakou: The Triumph of Bloody Gina, the CIAs Torture Queen scheerpost.com
20:05 TR News; DW, which turns a blind eye to CRIMES at the EPO, as WTO mouthpiece ... including "waiving vaccine patents" (which did not happen) https://www.dw.com/en/wto-to-talk-pandemic-fishing-subsidies-at-geneva-summit/a-62106293?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-xml-atom
20:05 TR Bot; to talk pandemic, fishing subsidies at Geneva summit | News | DW | 12.06.2022
20:06 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2206251
20:06 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6z6lmmtnkd691.jpg created on 2022-06-25 00:39:13.396263
20:06 TR News; RAND Corporation Research [sic]... and patents https://cissar.com/use-of-predictive-analytic-tools-to-assess-technological-emergences-and-acquisition-targets/
20:07 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://cissar.com/use-of-predictive-analytic-tools-to-assess-technological-emergences-and-acquisition-targets/ )
20:08 TR News; Assange case: when you finally make some gains against a deeply corrupt system they will torture you and kill you. Deliberately, too. To scare other people who might "get ideas"...
20:09 TR News; Access GNOME Shells Advanced Settings Easily - OMG! Ubuntu! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/06/gnome-shell-configurator-extension-advanced-settings Source: OMGUbuntu | GNU | Linux
20:09 TR Bot; Access GNOME Shell's Advanced Settings Easily - OMG! Ubuntu!
20:11 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166509
20:11 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:27 TR News; 1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and It's Not Over) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/26/covid-19-not-over/
20:27 TR Bot; Blog Archive 1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and Its Not Over)
20:30 TR News; "For the past few months I've been realizing just how easy it is to enter the field of amateur journalism. I've never been very interested in the field, never took any courses about it, and I've never even been inside a newspaper office." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1038
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20:59 DaemonFC; https://news.yahoo.com/maga-voters-send-50-million-152821829.html
20:59 TR Bot; MAGA Voters Send a $50 Million GOP Plan Off the Rails in Illinois
20:59 DaemonFC; Trump showed up at a rally for a Republican downstate Congresswoman who slipped and said that the court decision is a victory for "white life".
20:59 DaemonFC; And he also stumped for Gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey.
21:00 DaemonFC; It effectively turned into a Nazi/White Pride rally down there.
21:00 DaemonFC; Bailey was even photographed "waving" at the crowd with what was very obviously a Nazi salute.
21:09 schestowitz_TR; >> GOP Plan Off the Rails in Illinois
21:09 schestowitz_TR; US has been off the rails for 20 years
21:09 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.18.7, 5.15.50, 5.10.125, 5.4.201, 4.19.249, 4.14.285, and 4.9.320 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166510
21:09 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.18.7, 5.15.50, 5.10.125, 5.4.201, 4.19.249, 4.14.285, and 4.9.320 | Tux Machines
21:10 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166511
21:10 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:16 TR News; FSFE Information stand at Veganmania MQ Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166512
21:16 TR Bot; FSFE Information stand at Veganmania MQ | Tux Machines
21:17 TR News; Links 26/06/2022: New Stable Kernels and Freedom of the Press on Trial | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/freedom-of-the-press-on-trial/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/freedom-of-the-press-on-trial/
21:17 TR Bot; Links 26/06/2022: New Stable Kernels and Freedom of the Press on Trial | Techrights
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21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:30 matey; US has been off the rails for 20 years <- lets just call it the first world
21:30 matey; unless you can think of a country other than sweden that hasnt been fucking bullshit for the past two decades
21:30 matey; and sweden isnt utopia
21:31 matey; the first world <- and thats being nice
21:32 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/illinois-trump-appears-for-a-stump-speech-for-darren-bailey-that-turns-into-a-nazi-white-pride-rally/
21:32 TR Bot; Illinois: Trump appears for a stump speech for Darren Bailey that turns into a Nazi/White Pride rally. BaronHK's Rants
21:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Ken Griffin of Citadel (an investment company) threw $50 million dollars at Richard Irvin and then Trump ruined it by showing up one afternoon.
21:38 DaemonFC; Then Griffin announced he and Citadel are leaving Illinois and going to Florida.
21:39 DaemonFC; To be fair, some of Irvin cratering is his own spinelessness. He sent out a text saying he hated Trump back in 2018. Now he's saying he doesn't remember that.
21:40 DaemonFC; The smart thing to do would be pivot and try to peel away some of Pritzker's supporters.
21:41 DaemonFC; 3 hours ago
21:41 DaemonFC; Is there any state where the rural portion does not want to cut ties with the major city, and the complaints are always the same. "We send them our taxes and get nothing back."
21:41 DaemonFC; I remember it in every state I ever lived in, including Colorado. Here we even talked about splitting away from the front range and joining with Western Kansas, who would split from Eastern Kansas, and we would form a new state.
21:41 DaemonFC; The real problem lay in the fact that the new state would be dirt poor and have no resources beyond farming. That is also a commonality with the other states I have lived in where they talked about splitting the state away from the major cities.
21:41 DaemonFC; (Someone else's comment)
21:42 DaemonFC; Yes, I've pointed out before that if you cut out Chicago, Cook County, and the collar counties, and made a state of Chicago and a state of Illinois, the state of Illinois would be poorer than Mississippi (currently the poorest in America) and the state of Chicago's median household income would more than double vs. the current Illinois median income.
21:43 DaemonFC; Then there would be no tax base in Chicago to pay for things downstate, including roads, bridges, schools, utilities, farm subsidies, energy subsidies....
21:44 DaemonFC; They'd lose a lot more than they'd gain. It would be better for them to just continue the status quo. Saying they hate Chicago and electing local boards that like to thumb their noses at us.
21:44 DaemonFC; If they seceded, we'd no longer be under any obligation to carry them, and they'd be dirt broke.
21:45 DaemonFC; It's totally predictable what will happen if Darren Bailey wins the primary because we saw a sneak preview in the 2018 election. Governor Rauner went up against a fire breathing right-wing witch named Jeanne Ives.
21:46 DaemonFC; It split the party right in two. Rauner survived his own primary, but only barely, and Jeanne Ives' attack ads badly damaged him with Republicans, who went on to abandon him in the general election.
21:48 DaemonFC; She released an extremely racist and anti-LGBT attack ad that was just so bizarre.
21:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, She had YouTube take it down.
21:48 DaemonFC; So it's no longer there to be seen.
21:49 DaemonFC; It basically went from a woman in a pink hat thanking Bruce Rauner for "making taxpayers cover all of my abortions", then an Occupy Wall Street-style protester thanking him for "protecting illegal alien criminals instead of American citizens", followed by a sleazy ComEd executive thanking him for putting all the people in Illinois on the hook for a corrupt bailout.
21:50 DaemonFC; The funny part was that 4 years after he lost the election (starting last month), the clawback provision that nobody thought anything of in 2018 kicked in.
21:51 DaemonFC; And it reduced our electric bill 25% last month, because the price of power shot sky high and ComEd's nuclear plants started turning a profit by selling electricity in the region.
21:51 DaemonFC; ComEd didn't fight the clawback section of the bailout law because they figured there would be no way to ever make money on those nuclear power plants, and so they could just force taxpayers to hand over the money and they'd never have to give any of it back.
21:57 matey; speaking of pissing matches
21:58 matey; einstein is dead, but we had hawking
21:58 matey; hawking died in 2018, but
21:58 matey; where the fuck is the next guy?
21:58 matey; or girl, she could be female
21:58 matey; wheres the worlds top scientist? we should probably have one somewhere
21:59 matey; superman was bullshit, but hawking at least was real
21:59 matey; and neither would get far on foot
22:00 matey; i havent heard anything about the worlds top astrophysicist since the last one died
22:00 matey; is the universe not important anymore?
22:01 matey; we still have kanye, ffs
22:01 matey; we need someone to balance this
22:02 matey; we cant just be in a zero-hawking, several-kardashian world here
22:02 matey; maybe if we have a brilliant astrophysicist wear luis vitton
22:02 matey; whatever it takes, you know
22:04 matey; i dunno, maybe we can draft someone from the ramtha school of enlightenment
22:04 matey; who doesnt want happy little water crystals
22:05 matey; i try to get about half of my physics from stifflers mom in a sgt peppers army coat smoking a pipe anyway
22:06 matey; thank god for model trains, because if they didnt have the model trains how would they get the idea for the big trains
22:13 matey; do we even have a carl sagan? i mean, theres neil degrasse tyson, i suppose hes sort of sagan-like
22:15 matey; and theres the we live a woooowld of woooonders guy, but i think he disappeared after hbo become netflix
22:15 matey; maybe while flying a helicopter to the moon
22:16 matey; brian cox
22:16 matey; not the actor
22:17 matey; /me imagines carl sagan doing cockney rhyming slang
22:36 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/google-youtube-gulagtube-removes-incredibly-racist-and-transphobic-political-ad-from-illinois-state-rep-jeanne-ives/
22:36 TR Bot; Google YouTube (GulagTube) removes incredibly racist and transphobic political ad from Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives. BaronHK's Rants
22:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, ^
22:36 DaemonFC; I might work on this again.
22:36 DaemonFC; Brb.
22:37 DaemonFC; "Case in point, when Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives ran against Governor Bruce Rauner in the Republican Primary in 2018, she released a a very racist and transphobic ad (which had an obvious man with a five oclock shadow in a dress excited that he would be in the little girls bathroom) which also accused all immigrants of being criminals."
22:38 DaemonFC; mjg59_ thinks I'm transphobic and I'm actually not. Keith was something else entirely (verified by every psychiatrist he saw, which was many, not just the opinion of one or two).
22:39 DaemonFC; And then so was the ad from Jeanne Ives.
22:40 DaemonFC; It's a recurring theme among some of them that all transgender people are really just "men in a dress who want into the little girls bathroom so they can molest your daughter", and that really is transphobia.
22:40 DaemonFC; By accusing everyone they see of it, people like mjg59_ cheapen the entire concept and make it harder to call out people like Ives for that.
22:42 DaemonFC; His former employer protects Ives from criticism by preventing the public from seeing her video and coming to their own conclusion about why they should not vote for her.
22:42 DaemonFC; She's obviously calculated that it will be easier to stay in Illinois elected office if people don't see that video.
22:42 DaemonFC; That's why it's gone now.
22:45 DaemonFC; I wonder if mjg59_ would be willing to comment on this video and to say more about the nature of his departure from Google.
22:45 DaemonFC; Such as whether it was his idea and if things like protecting transphobes from public opinion was part of that?
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23:15 DaemonFC; I have no idea what the point is of a "Save America" rally in Illinois is, unless maybe he thinks that he'll keep the grift going.
23:15 DaemonFC; Even though their votes don't matter, they can open their checkbooks. Some of them.
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23:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR there's no corruption in the UK.
23:21 DaemonFC; Certainly not Qatar handing Prince Charles duffelbags full of cash.
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23:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, NordVPN changed their terms of use the other day.
23:35 DaemonFC; It conflicts, it seems.
23:35 DaemonFC; It maintains that they don't log anything about you, but that they can remove you for violating laws or infringing copyrights.
23:35 DaemonFC; How can they do that if they really don't know what you're doing?
23:52 DaemonFC; https://www.charminsolutions.com/
23:52 TR Bot;
23:53 DaemonFC; A one month toilet paper roll.
23:53 DaemonFC; For people who have trouble changing a roll of toilet paper?
23:53 DaemonFC; Why don't they just go back to 400 sheets per roll, which fits in a standard dispenser instead of 284 sheets per roll?
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