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00:02 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coke-exploring-ways-to-leverage-ai-because-every-company-needs-an-ai-strategy-now-160228764.html
00:02 TR Bot; Coke 'exploring ways to leverage AI'
00:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Coke AI
00:03 DaemonFC; "The AI stock surges are not in line with fundamentals and are reminiscent of past instances of companies throwing out buzzwords to appease eager investors. Take blockchain, for instance."
00:03 DaemonFC; At least this article SAYS IT.
00:08 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/subway-reports-121-same-store-sales-jump-as-company-eyes-sale-this-quarter-120016246.html
00:08 TR Bot; Subway reports 12.1% same-store sales jump as company eyes sale this quarter
00:08 DaemonFC; People complaining in the comments about what it costs to have fucking Subway delivered.
00:09 DaemonFC; Getting it delivered adds at least 60% by the time you tip and they jack all the prices up because "delivery fees".
00:09 DaemonFC; Also, you typically can't redeem paper coupons, which they still issue.
00:09 DaemonFC; You have to take those into the store.
00:09 DaemonFC; If you get the paper coupons, two footlong subs are like $13+tax, not $30.
00:10 DaemonFC; I hear mjg59_ like cold cuts though.
00:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz, https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-earnings-ai-hype-could-take-backseat-to-cloud-growth-troubles-201023413.html
00:11 TR Bot; Microsoft earnings: AI hype could take backseat to cloud growth troubles
00:11 DaemonFC; "Microsoft (MSFT) will report earnings for its fiscal third quarter after the bell on Tuesday as the company continues to ride the generative AI hype train while a decline in cloud revenue could spoil the tech giant's quarter."
00:11 DaemonFC; In other words, MSM is saying what you said for months.
00:11 DaemonFC; Their "cloud" division is in trouble and it's finally being reflected, in the books. Although still probably understated.
00:12 DaemonFC; Accounting practices? What accounting practices?
00:12 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, AI hype runs up the stock with fake value while execs dump it.
00:13 DaemonFC; "According to Gartner, worldwide PC shipments declined a stunning 30% in the first quarter of this year to 55.2 million units."
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:30 psydruid; years even
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00:55 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/arkus83/art/Soshka-and-Ignat-2-905046138
00:55 TR Bot; and Ignat 2 by Arkus83 on DeviantArt
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01:07 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/25/what-frightens-me-the-most-about-stock-investing-ai-microsoft-google-coca-cola-bonus-crypto-and-samsung/
01:07 TR Bot; What Frightens Me the Most About Stock Investing? AI (Microsoft, Google, Coca-Cola..) Bonus: Crypto and Samsung | BaronHK's Rants
01:07 DaemonFC; "Microsoft cant seem to really enter into new markets, but it can do an enormous amount of damage on the way down. Its basically turning Samsung into the sequel of what happened to Nokia."
01:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
01:09 DaemonFC; Still working on this.
01:12 psydruid; Microsoft can only retreat from markets
01:13 DaemonFC; https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/walmart-marks-black-history-month-with-14m-initiative
01:13 TR Bot; Walmart donates $14M to nonprofits targeting racial inequity as part of 5-year plan | Fox Business
01:14 DaemonFC; I thought they already donated at least $14 million in free TVs to black people in South Chicago.
01:14 DaemonFC; Before giving up and shutting the stores down.
01:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, "Maybe if we donate to the group representing the people setting our stores on fire they'll stop...nope, there went another store."
01:16 DaemonFC; Worked well for SVB too, you know.
01:18 DaemonFC; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4F3qESu6JFI
01:18 TR Bot; South Park Walmart 2004 - Invidious
01:19 DaemonFC; MinceR, Any of this going on in Hungaristan?
01:19 DaemonFC; People setting stores on fire to take the televisions?
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 MinceR; DaemonFC: not yet
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02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-240423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-240423.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 24, 2023
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-240423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-240423.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 24, 2023
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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 24, 2023
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 24, 2023
02:45 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-04-24.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-04-24.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:57 TR News; (NEW): Machine Learning in Linux: Upscaler upscale and enhance images http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/24/Machine_Learning_in_Linux_Upscaler_upscale_and_enhance_images.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/24/Machine_Learning_in_Linux_Upscaler_upscale_and_enhance_images.gmi
02:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Machine Learning in Linux: Upscaler upscale and enhance images
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:02 TR News; Clown computing https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-earnings-ai-hype-could-take-backseat-to-cloud-growth-troubles-201023413.html"
03:02 TR Bot; Microsoft earnings: AI hype could take backseat to cloud growth troubles
03:03 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> In other words, MSM is saying what you said for months.
03:03 schestowitz; it was common sense
03:03 schestowitz; based on the available data
03:03 schestowitz; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- finance.yahoo.com | Coke 'exploring ways to leverage AI'
03:03 schestowitz; WHAT DA???
03:03 MinceR; intelligent soft drink
03:05 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 386675 total Total number of pages in capsule: 45889 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 1 months 16 days ago
03:05 schestowitz; <martylake> schestowitz: it was the link "Red Hat To Lay Off Over 700 Employees"
03:05 schestowitz; i see, thanks for clarifying
03:06 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:06 TR News; Microsoft Wednesday, 10 years ago: BUT THE CLOWN BUT THE CLOWN. Microsoft this coming Wednesday, 10 years ago: BUT THE HEY HI BUT THE HEY HI!!
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 TR News; Microsoft is a one-trick pony. The trick is bribing the media like you bribe officials and various decision-makers.
03:11 TR News; Red Hat: GOOD NEWS! "Help Company Compete In a New Environment.... focus on cloud." https://www.channelfutures.com/business-models/red-hat-layoffs-environment CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN
03:11 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/business-models/red-hat-layoffs-environment )
03:14 TR News; So who will speak for Vladimir Putin in Rupert's empire? https://radaronline.com/p/tucker-carlson-fox-news-cut-ties/
03:14 TR Bot; Tucker Carlson & Fox News Cut Ties, No New Shows Or Farewell To Audience
03:20 TR News; "FMN's web interface will be inaccessible during the outage, but the backend service that sends notifications will keep running. No notification will be lost." https://status.fedoraproject.org/2023-04-26-fmn.html
03:20 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://status.fedoraproject.org/2023-04-26-fmn.html )
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 TR News; The NeuroFedora project met yesterday in IRC https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2023/04/24/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-24-April-1300-utc.html
03:21 TR Bot; Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 24 April 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog
03:21 TR News; "We just wrapped up the 2023 edition of Linux App Summit here in Brno, and the conference was a blast! I was delighted to see so many friends and new people. I feel the future of Desktop Linux and our ecosystem is in very good hands!" https://feborg.es/thanks-everyone-for-las-2023/
03:21 TR Bot; Thanks everyone for Linux App Summit 2023! Felipe Borges
03:22 TR News; Fedora Magazine: The Community Platform Engineering F2F 2023 Experience Part I https://fedoramagazine.org/the-community-platform-engineering-f2f-2023-experience-part-i/
03:22 TR Bot; The Community Platform Engineering F2F 2023 Experience Part I - Fedora Magazine
03:24 TR News; "If you're an avid user of AppImages wondering why they don't appear to work in Ubuntu 23.04, I've got you covered." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/04/appimages-libfuse2-ubuntu-23-04
03:24 TR Bot; How to Enable AppImage Support in Ubuntu 23.04 - OMG! Ubuntu
03:25 TR News; Optimise your ROS snap Part 5 https://ubuntu.com//blog/optimise-your-ros-snap-part-5
03:25 TR Bot; your ROS snap Part 5 | Ubuntu
03:27 TR News; Joe Brockmeier: See you at Open Source Summit North America! https://dissociatedpress.net/2023/04/24/see-you-at-open-source-summit-north-america/
03:27 TR Bot; See you at Open Source Summit North America!: Dissociated Press
03:29 TR News; Double patenting and the Brazilian patent practice https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/04/24/double-patenting-and-the-brazilian-patent-practice/
03:29 TR Bot; Double patenting and the Brazilian patent practice - Kluwer Patent Blog
03:29 TR News; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI (yes, infantile fools reciting buzzwords) Inventor [sic] and the Ethics Trap for US Patent Attorneys https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/04/cert-denied-inventorship.html
03:29 TR Bot; AI Inventor and the Ethics Trap for US Patent Attorneys | Patently-O
03:30 TR News; 55k page requests in Gemini capsule of Techrights yesterday. All-time record?
03:32 TR News; Postfix SASL Configuration gopher://gopher.unixlore.net:70/1/glog
03:32 TR News; "Tomorrow will be the year anniversary of the first post I made to Gemini" gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2304/Dating-Apps-Suck-2:-Electric-Boogaloo.gmi
03:33 DaemonFC; https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/inflation-battered-retirement-savings-2022
03:33 TR Bot; Inflation battered retirement savings in 2022 | Fox Business
03:33 TR News; notes about Firefox gemini://gemini.thebackupbox.net/~epoch/blog/firefox "/I/ prefer to not use DNS over HTTPS because I run my own DNS servers and would prefer for everything on my network to use them."
03:33 DaemonFC; "A new study found 1 in 4 Americans cut back on saving for retirement in 2022 due to high inflation."
03:34 DaemonFC; Yeah, if it's eating into your employer match you really need to find something else to cut.
03:34 TR News; "I found that about:config option privacy.resistFingerprinting has a feature that breaks light and dark mode css styling. so if you're scratching your head why websites stay stuck in light mode even if about:config's style changes, it is probably this." gemini://gemini.thebackupbox.net/~epoch/blog/darkmode
03:35 TR News; "Surprisingly, I am really fond of this device -- even though it is pretty much an undocumented hodgepodge of weird crap. However, it is _a lot_ of weird crap in there, and the CPU is interesting." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-04-24.esp32.gmi
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03:36 TR News; Online Gambling gemini://rawtext.club/~winter/gemlog/2023/4-24.gmi "Or maybe it should just be called gambling? I don't know. Regardless, the ads are everywhere. I've been a baseball fan since I was a teenager."
03:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D898.jpg
03:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D572.jpg
03:39 TR News; gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2304/Dating-Apps-Suck-2:-Electric-Boogaloo.gmi "I've come to realize that many of the things I described are just part of the game of online dating. Being left without a response is par for the course, along with unprompted unmatching."
03:40 TR News; "Recently, I got into a debate with a friend of mine about whether AI art is.. art and whether is should be allowed in commercial projects. He is on the position that it is not as it can only mix and replicate existing works." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2023/04-24-armchair-philosopher-on-defining-creativity.gmi
03:41 TR News; "I caught this nice sunrise on the way into work, about 6am." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230424-0.gmi
03:41 TR News; Gemini even has bible stuff these days... gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/your-word/20230423-0.gmi
03:43 TR News; Andy Wingo: structure and interpretation of nativescript https://wingolog.org/archives/2023/04/24/structure-and-interpretation-of-nativescript
03:43 TR Bot; structure and interpretation of nativescript -- wingolog
03:45 TR News; Luis Villa: says he uses "iPad"... lectures us about freedom?? https://lu.is/blog/2023/04/24/notes-on-using-freedom-to-block-digital-distractions/
03:45 TR Bot; Notes on using Freedom to block digital distractions Luis Villa: Open Tech and Policy
03:48 TR News; Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2023/04/24/akonadi.html
03:48 TR Bot; Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD | [bobulate]
03:49 TR News; Kernel Podcast: S2E4 2023/04/24 https://kernelpodcast.org/2023/04/24/s2e4-2023-04-24/
03:49 TR Bot; S2E4 2023/04/24 Linux Kernel Podcast
03:50 TR News; Linux Plumbers Conference: eBPF & Networking Track https://lpc.events/blog/current/index.php/2023/04/24/networking-and-bpf-track/
03:50 TR Bot; eBPF & Networking Track Linux Plumbers Conference
03:52 TR News; The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 784 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/04/24/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-784/
03:52 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 784
03:53 TR News; Red Hat: come back to the office or you're fired. Oh, here you are. You're fired anyway.
03:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Just ordered another shipment of coffee.
03:56 schestowitz; mir Putin in Rupei got 15 packs
03:56 schestowitz; 8+7
03:56 schestowitz; oops
03:56 schestowitz; i got 15 packs
03:56 schestowitz; "mir Putin in Rupe"
03:56 DaemonFC; 2 Tim Hortons Colombian Roast and 3 Tim Hortons Decaf.
03:56 schestowitz; that's me searchig the channel earlier
03:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I finally got my checkbook for the money market today.
03:57 DaemonFC; The post office did not leave a note. I had to go to the window and say I had been expecting a package from the bank.
03:57 DaemonFC; Anyway, I did the math. If my landlord takes his usual sweet time to deposit the check, then I will earn about $20 a year in interest by leaving the money in the money market while he's getting around to it.
03:57 DaemonFC; But as long as he gets the check before the first, I am not late on the rent.
03:58 TR News; What Frightens Me the Most About Stock Investing? AI (Microsoft, Google, Coca-Cola..) Bonus: Crypto and Samsung https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/25/what-frightens-me-the-most-about-stock-investing-ai-microsoft-google-coca-cola-bonus-crypto-and-samsung/
03:58 TR Bot; What Frightens Me the Most About Stock Investing? AI (Microsoft, Google, Coca-Cola..) Bonus: Crypto and Samsung | BaronHK's Rants
03:58 DaemonFC; So I get to earn a little money on the money I've already paid him.
03:58 DaemonFC; I expect rent will go up another $50 or so next renewal if he still owns the building.
03:58 DaemonFC; At which point, leaving the money invested for the turnaround time will earn about $25-26 a year.
03:58 DaemonFC; I mean, it isn't nothing.
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:59 DaemonFC; If you pay the landlord on Zelle, the money gets debited from your account and stops earning interest right away.
04:00 TR News; Annual Report: The Document Foundation in 2022 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/04/24/annual-report-the-document-foundation-in-2022/
↺ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/04/24/annual-report-the-document-foundation-in-2022/
04:00 TR Bot; Annual Report: The Document Foundation in 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog
04:00 DaemonFC; So the interest while the check is in the mail and then in his queue to be deposited earns much more than the cost of the stamp to mail it in.
04:00 DaemonFC; :)
04:01 TR News; Xorg back to old-school without libinput https://bkhome.org/news/202304/xorg-back-to-old-school-without-libinput.html
04:01 TR Bot; Xorg back to old-school without libinput
04:04 TR News; (NEW): LibreOffice, LibreArts, and Luis Villa Talking About Freedom While Using iPad http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LibreOffice_LibreArts_and_Luis_Villa_Talking_About_Freedom_Whil.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LibreOffice_LibreArts_and_Luis_Villa_Talking_About_Freedom_Whil.gmi
04:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice, LibreArts, and Luis Villa Talking About Freedom While Using iPad
04:04 TR News; (NEW): LINUX Unplugged Episode 507 and Kernel Podcast S2E4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LINUX_Unplugged_Episode_507_and_Kernel_Podcast_S2E4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LINUX_Unplugged_Episode_507_and_Kernel_Podcast_S2E4.gmi
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04:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines LINUX Unplugged Episode 507 and Kernel Podcast S2E4
04:04 TR News; (NEW): OpenEmbedded and EasyOS Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/OpenEmbedded_and_EasyOS_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/OpenEmbedded_and_EasyOS_Updates.gmi
04:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenEmbedded and EasyOS Updates
04:06 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Monday, April 24, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
04:06 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:06 TR News; Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt
04:06 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:06 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I finally got my checkbook for the money market today.
04:06 schestowitz; wow
04:06 schestowitz; they still ship these?
04:07 DaemonFC; Yes.
04:07 DaemonFC; I still request checks and I pay the landlord with them.
04:07 schestowitz; good.
04:07 schestowitz; people need to keep these available
04:07 schestowitz; and still around
04:07 schestowitz; not just very old people.
04:07 DaemonFC; I don't want to use "apps" and money orders keep getting more expensive.
04:07 DaemonFC; Why should I pay $1.65 just to pay someone?
04:08 DaemonFC; That shit adds up!
04:08 TR News; Rupert Murdoch still pushing the lie of "worker shortage" or "skills shortage". Gaslighting the victims. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/employers-say-hiring-workers-is-a-struggle-despite-layoffs-jr735st5t
04:08 TR Bot; Employers say hiring workers is a struggle despite layoffs
04:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz, When I was at my attorney's office she said I could pay immigration with credit cards "for a fee" so I wrote them a check. I told her there's no way to even know when they'd run my credit card.
04:10 DaemonFC; So I wrote the check and said "Let me see here.....department of homeland stupidity.....no that's not right."
04:10 schestowitz; https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-obsessed-with-ai-meta-facebook-change-name-metai-2023-4?r=US&IR=T
04:10 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg's AI Obsession: Could Facebook Change Its Name Again?
04:10 schestowitz; lol
04:10 schestowitz; fluff
04:10 schestowitz; https://www.marketwatch.com/story/after-a-2-trillion-stock-rebound-big-tech-wades-into-sea-of-uncertainty-eba2ea66
04:10 TR Bot; After a $2 trillion stock rebound, Big Tech wades into sea of uncertainty - MarketWatch
04:11 schestowitz; offloading people's money into bubbles
04:11 schestowitz; this won't end well
04:12 schestowitz; what has "the media" become?
04:12 schestowitz; rah rah PR churnalism
04:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz, They had Biden's Disinformation Minister singing a "Marry Poppins" song on TikTok, a big source of disinformation. Ironic, right?
04:13 DaemonFC; Anyway, they should have done a follow up of the song about putting your money in the bank last month.
04:13 DaemonFC; :)
04:14 DaemonFC; They want the kid to put his money in the bank and sing about it earning compounding interest.
04:14 DaemonFC; And of course he's a kid so he wants to run off and use it to buy feed for the pigeons.
04:16 DaemonFC; https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=_cerBB6nVHM
04:16 TR Bot; Fidelity Fiduciary Bank (From "Mary Poppins"/Soundtrack Version) - Invidious
04:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Amusingly, they tell him what the bank invests the money in to earn the interest, as well.
04:18 DaemonFC; Imperialism.
04:18 schestowitz; banking
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:21 TR News; Nym Technologies for Privacy - and Freedom - on GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/
04:21 TR Bot; Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux | Techrights
04:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz, At least that much never changes.
04:21 DaemonFC; Well, it has for the UK.
04:21 DaemonFC; All you get is Prime Minister Restaurant Scheme.
04:21 DaemonFC; Old what's his nuts.
04:21 DaemonFC; People that can't pay their light bill.
04:21 schestowitz; 2020?
04:21 schestowitz; wait, that was before
04:22 DaemonFC; Media says your big problem is fish & chips shops closing.
04:22 schestowitz; almost 2 eyears before russia invade
04:22 schestowitz; many shops
04:22 schestowitz; not just foods
04:22 schestowitz; we still find some pennies to run a coronation party
04:22 schestowitz; god save de queeeeen
04:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, fish & chips is still relatively affordable in the US.
04:22 DaemonFC; Especially at home.
04:23 DaemonFC; You can just buy bags of frozen breaded fish (Gortons or something) and a bag of fries and fry it all yourself.
04:23 DaemonFC; I use a spray bottle of oil and an air fryer to cut down on the cooking oil we use.
04:23 DaemonFC; Not the canned oil, because that will ruin your frying basket.
04:24 DaemonFC; But you just pour regular olive oil into a spray bottle.
04:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I was singing that song in the shower while SVB was failing.
04:29 DaemonFC; Just to amuse myself.
04:29 DaemonFC; The kid accidentally causes a run on the bank at the end by panicking everyone.
04:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I just don't see much in the way of investments with decent interest and short term liquidity other than no penalty CDs right now.
04:32 DaemonFC; If you invest it in Savings Bonds right now you will need to hold them for at least a year. True, even if you withdraw them and take the 3 month penalty, you'd earn at least 4.48% still.
04:32 DaemonFC; But then you're back where you are with a no penalty CD, with the only perk being you don't owe state income tax on the interest.
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05:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz, It's really funny watching CEOs scream about "worker shortage" and "disloyal workers".
05:10 DaemonFC; Loyalty is earned. When you turn employment into some low wage Hell where the employees have no input and it's hostile and toxic, what do you think happens if they can find a job that pays even $1 an hour more?
05:11 DaemonFC; Loyal employees are basically, they were my dad's type.
05:11 DaemonFC; They came to work every day for over three decades. Never called off sick. Maybe used their vacation time with plenty of notice. But they poured their life into this company and got screwed badly.
05:12 DaemonFC; At the end they just wipe the pension and fire you by email now.
05:12 DaemonFC; And they wonder why people hate, despise, and distrust them all.
05:12 DaemonFC; The end comes soon for some.
05:13 schestowitz; draft, DaemonFC
05:13 DaemonFC; Nobody likes you when you're 40, at established tech companies.
05:13 schestowitz; relates to yyour post
05:13 DaemonFC; One day, GULAG will wake up to an email or text from Aurora.
05:13 schestowitz; it's mentioned
05:13 DaemonFC; Soon!
05:13 DaemonFC; He couldn't hack it at Google and won't even say why he left, on the record, near as I can figure.
05:14 schestowitz; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/
05:14 TR Bot; One Common Theme is That Companies That Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto | Techrights
05:14 schestowitz; draf
05:14 DaemonFC; Nobody pulling down a good salary at an established employer with a positive balance sheet would leave on their own accord unless they were insane.
05:14 schestowitz; DaemonFC:see above
05:15 DaemonFC; "The chaffbots arent even producing useful output. Theyre full of errors. Its not viable."
05:16 DaemonFC; Code that doesn't work or has serious errors.
05:16 DaemonFC; Or is flat-out stolen.
05:16 schestowitz; yes
05:16 schestowitz; you waste a lot of timing fixing it
05:16 DaemonFC; Can't do simple math.
05:16 schestowitz; and it is not code you grasp
05:16 schestowitz; waste of time
05:16 DaemonFC; Can't answer questions about interest or coupons.
05:16 schestowitz; and it has gpl violations (open hey hi copilot)(
05:16 DaemonFC; Told me a tornado touched down in Waukegan on April 29th, 2023.
05:16 DaemonFC; :D
05:17 DaemonFC; I asked Google Bard for a list of tornadoes that touched down in Waukegan since 1950.
05:17 DaemonFC; It was wrong about all of them and told me one of them happened in the future.
05:17 schestowitz; lol
05:17 schestowitz; gish gallop
05:18 schestowitz; gobbledegook
05:18 schestowitz; word spew
05:18 schestowitz; blme the media for thbis too
05:18 schestowitz; bribes liars
05:18 schestowitz; likem spamnil
05:18 schestowitz; hyping u[ hey hi for years
05:18 schestowitz; and chaffbots
05:18 schestowitz; when msft paid them to
05:19 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG told me he wouldn't advise investing in Aurora and that he doesn't.
05:19 DaemonFC; It's basically a way to con investors who don't know any better and then bleed it like a stuck pig for paychecks until the company falls over.
05:19 schestowitz; yes
05:19 schestowitz; exactly
05:19 schestowitz; selling fantasies
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05:20 DaemonFC; Make it fat with "VC" and then siphon.
05:20 DaemonFC; Declare bankruptcy.
05:20 schestowitz; keep salarn aside
05:20 schestowitz; banks ask for bailout
05:20 schestowitz; taxpayers
05:20 schestowitz; population impoverished
05:20 schestowitz; austerity
05:20 DaemonFC; It's no different than running around stealing gas out of people's tanks for your car.
05:20 schestowitz; while the con jobs hoard capital
05:20 DaemonFC; Except it happens on a very big scale and "white collar".
05:21 DaemonFC; You're not buying gas with your income. You benefit at someone else's expense.
05:21 DaemonFC; Whatever you drained from their tank into your gas can.
05:22 DaemonFC; The Fed is going to kill Aurora pretty soon.
05:22 DaemonFC; Companies like this are now being largely cut off from cheap debt-fueled finance.
05:23 mjg59_; DaemonFC: No, I said I wouldn't advise that people hold significant amounts of stock in their employer, no matter who that is
05:23 DaemonFC; I wouldn't count Walmart out.
05:24 DaemonFC; They'll be around a long time after Aurora is gone.
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05:24 mjg59_; It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company
05:24 DaemonFC; They close stores in Democrat Shitholes like California where there is no justice system.
05:25 DaemonFC; The legal system in California is based on the voters there, which are stupid assholes who will pass anything that sounds vaguely social-justice-ey.
05:25 DaemonFC; Now there's no penalty for organized retail theft and all the stores close.
05:25 DaemonFC; :)
05:25 schestowitz; that's the system
05:25 DaemonFC; Nothing to punish the looters, so they loot.
05:26 DaemonFC; Taxes twice as high as any other state.
05:26 schestowitz; white-collar criminals defend other white-collar criminals
05:26 schestowitz; but they don't tolerate "petty thieves"
05:26 schestowitz; they don't do the theft "With style"
05:26 DaemonFC; A political party that thinks everything will be electric and you don't need any electricity to run it.
05:26 DaemonFC; Why stay?
05:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, I mean the laws ARE there to punish white collar criminals a lot harder.
05:28 DaemonFC; A lot of them commit wire fraud, violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, deceptive practices, lie to the IRS (and the state), make false statements to investors, make false statements to the SEC, and the list goes on for a mile.
05:28 DaemonFC; Then they get a slap on the wrist.
05:28 DaemonFC; So white collar crime costs the US economy about $200 billion a year. It's that bad.
05:28 DaemonFC; "Blue collar crime" costs about $16 billion.
05:28 DaemonFC; But the prisons are full of poor people.
05:29 DaemonFC; Even though every crime they do put together is hardly 5% as damaging to the economy.
05:29 DaemonFC; The government doesn't investigate white collar crime too much unless it becomes impossible to hide.
05:30 DaemonFC; These cases are complex, they're hard to investigate. The people who do it are "untouchable" anyway.
05:30 DaemonFC; So they focus on the small business owner with a big sign on her ice cream shop.
05:30 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
05:31 DaemonFC; If Bill Gates was a poor pedophile, the police would just do a no knock warrant.
05:31 DaemonFC; Yank him out of his house in his underwear in the middle of the night.
05:32 DaemonFC; He has "people" bring him "the stuff".
05:32 DaemonFC; He would never risk doing it on his home network or in a US state.
05:32 DaemonFC; So they have yachts that go out into the middle of the ocean.
05:32 DaemonFC; They have people to bring them the smut over the sneakernet.
05:33 DaemonFC; Then there's no way for the cops to even come up with a chain of evidence.
05:33 DaemonFC; There's really no good excuse for a guy like Rick Allen Jones to have ever been in the Gates Mansion.
05:33 DaemonFC; Everyone knows that he was Bill's Cheese Pizza delivery man.
05:34 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company
05:34 DaemonFC; There's a Walmart employee stock purchase plan that has a 15% discount on shares.
05:35 DaemonFC; It does match 15% up to the first $1,800 you buy per year.
05:35 DaemonFC; Technically you CAN dump it immediately but you'd be making a short term capital gain.
05:36 DaemonFC; If you wait a year, you can take the long term rate, which is 0%.
05:36 DaemonFC; Your cost basis will be 15% lower than the share price the date your paycheck went out and the sale price will be whatever the public can buy it for in a year.
05:36 DaemonFC; You pay no capital gains.
05:37 DaemonFC; It does actually make sense to buy $1,800 worth of the stock each year and get the discount and then sell it at the long term capital gain rate. If you can.
05:37 DaemonFC; Scoop and toss.
05:38 DaemonFC; And if some of it goes down vs what you paid, you can take a tax write off of the difference.
05:38 DaemonFC; It can be a totally decent way to earn a little money on the side.
05:39 DaemonFC; As long as the shares don't fall more than 15% in the year you have to hold them, you make at least some profit and don't pay tax on it.
05:40 DaemonFC; If you want to toss them as soon as you can after buying them, FIFO accounting for acquisition and sale works well.
05:41 DaemonFC; mjg59_, I guess if your employer is a volatile cash furnace, you can't bet that you'd probably profit.
05:41 DaemonFC; Even if they sold it to you at a discount.
05:42 DaemonFC; I try to toss my shares after the earnings report. If the earnings report causes the shares to drop, then I just hold and wait for the next opportunity.
05:43 DaemonFC; TurboTax clued me in to the fact that I should be doing this when I noticed that I could take a long term rate of zero.
05:43 DaemonFC; It's tax free income on the gain and it's hard not to gain.
05:44 DaemonFC; You manage it through BofA.
05:44 DaemonFC; And there's no fees for dumping it.
05:45 DaemonFC; So basically even the lowest paid employees at Walmar could be making hundreds of dollars in capital gains each year, if they want to.
05:45 DaemonFC; And paying nothing on it.
05:45 DaemonFC; They just have to be willing to tie up some money for a little while.
05:46 DaemonFC; You could dump it immediately but then your tax rate would be the same as your income tax rate.
05:46 DaemonFC; The tax code rewards people who hang onto things for a while before selling.
05:47 DaemonFC; You can use Schedule D for all sorts of things, including selling coin that you bought earlier and realizing a profit.
05:47 DaemonFC; Anyway, mjg59_ $1,800 is a fair chunk of a typical Walmart employee's paycheck.
05:48 DaemonFC; So it requires discipline and it's also the stock of the company they work at.
05:49 DaemonFC; I'll wait while you go load Wiktionary or something to read up that discipline means something other than whatever you and Buffy are into.
05:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Picard was a great series from start to finish.
05:50 DaemonFC; But Vadic was probably the best Star Trek villain so far.
05:52 DaemonFC; "The shrike is a small bird, but it is a predator. It picks apart its prey, piece by piece. It is a survivor. And so am I."
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05:59 DaemonFC; "At least I went out with guns blazing" has never really been my strategy for dealing with confrontation. I just pick apart the opponent a piece at a time. In ways they think I'm too provincial to have considered.
06:00 DaemonFC; In ways they never would have anticipated.
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06:01 DaemonFC; I appreciated Vadic for what she was. She didn't start out very confrontational at all. She tried making them think she was there as a mercenary to retrieve a pirate she had been assigned to catch. It was only when it didn't work that she resorted to attack, in stages.
06:02 DaemonFC; It was what the Founders should have been in DS9.
06:02 DaemonFC; The series was terrible. It plodded along. The Dominion War never felt threatening.
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06:26 DaemonFC; mjg59_, There's also the fact that a majority of Americans are pressured to shop at Walmart now.
06:26 DaemonFC; Even MARISOL had to stop getting her truck water.
06:56 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> but they don't tolerate "petty thieves"
06:57 DaemonFC; We gave the cops the security camera footage of John getting mugged the first time in Chicago.
06:57 DaemonFC; They didn't solve it.
06:57 DaemonFC; The guy was on the video grinning for the camera and they didn't solve it.
06:57 DaemonFC; The second time he got mugged, the renter's insurance policy paid me about $700 to replace his stuff.
06:58 DaemonFC; I'll take it off what he owes me.
06:58 DaemonFC; His dumb ass also managed to get me another $600 this year. They say that's what the check will be for the insurance company settling for the BIPA violation.
06:58 DaemonFC; He still owes me more.
06:59 DaemonFC; If I got ten more checks this size it would just about cover the damages, honestly.
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07:00 DaemonFC; $5,000 in attorneys fees and court filing fees to put out that fire.
07:00 DaemonFC; There's not a place in Hell hot enough for him to burn.
07:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Mandy was amused with me pulling out the checkbook to write the payments for the landlord and the utilities.
07:04 DaemonFC; I asked him what he thought people did before debit cards.
07:04 DaemonFC; They don't teach balancing your checkbook in school anymore.
07:04 DaemonFC; They don't teach driver's education.
07:04 DaemonFC; They got rid of art and music.
07:05 DaemonFC; Now they want them to drop out and work at 15.
07:05 DaemonFC; :)
07:05 DaemonFC; It was always coming to this I guess, once Creepy Uncle Bill and Fuckerberg paid off the politicians to use Common Core.
07:05 DaemonFC; "You only need to teach them math and reading."
07:05 DaemonFC; Half can't do either?
07:05 DaemonFC; Okay, put em on a burrito assembly line.
07:06 DaemonFC; The app can figure out what the customer owes.
07:06 DaemonFC; We'll get rid of their jobs with a robot arm eventually.
07:06 DaemonFC; Great success!
07:06 DaemonFC; They don't care about a well rounded individual.
07:07 DaemonFC; They don't care about teaching them the importance of art.
07:07 DaemonFC; Now all they care about is having them on a hamburger assembly line at 15 while they work the bugs out of the robot arm.
07:07 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
07:07 DaemonFC; Society is finished. There is no art anymore.
07:08 DaemonFC; You flip on the radio and it's just some idiot using the N word a lot and rapping about his crack.
07:08 DaemonFC; They train GPT to say that this is art and you just need to appreciate their culture.
07:08 DaemonFC; :)
07:09 DaemonFC; The only places left to get an education usually are Christian schools.
07:10 DaemonFC; They cost a lot of money and they're the only one that resists Creepy Uncle Bill gAIDS.
07:10 DaemonFC; The liberals are in there replacing math class with a lesson on getting your penis cut off when you're older, say 12 or so.
07:11 DaemonFC; It's terrible.
07:11 DaemonFC; Head Start (on turning into Uncle Jessica)
07:12 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company
07:12 DaemonFC; I noticed you went silent when I recommended dumping $1,800 a year into Walmart stock if you work at Walmart.
07:13 DaemonFC; Technically it's not a discount, it's extra stock for free. But what it cost you doesn't really matter when you sell it at long term tax rates with the pay of a Walmart worker.
07:17 DaemonFC; You're basically saying no to $270 in free stock every year you work there. You can sell it the next year and pay no taxes on whatever the capital gains end up being. Even if you sell it at face value, you're essentially telling them not to pay you an extra 13 cents an hour by not doing it. But Walmart stock usually appreciates over time.
07:18 DaemonFC; Since there's FIFO accounting, it's not just dollar cost averaging at work here like a retirement plan.
07:19 DaemonFC; If you want to hurry up and dump some of the extra shares you acquired at a loss before holding them exactly a year, you can do that, lower your tax bill, and still at the very worst break even.
07:19 DaemonFC; That's because if you held it for less than a year, you can dump and the Schedule D will reflect a Short Term capital loss, which is at your income tax rate.
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07:20 DaemonFC; So you can cut your taxes by declaring a loss on some of your shares and then sell the rest later, the ones that have appreciated.
07:21 DaemonFC; You'd hang onto the ones that they give you that would be considered a 100% gain and sell out of the ones that you purchased.
07:22 DaemonFC; This is surprisingly legal.
07:22 DaemonFC; You can use the Associate Stock Purchase program to profit and still declare a tax loss.
07:22 DaemonFC; By using FIFO accounting and tactical selling.
07:24 DaemonFC; That's because the "loss" would be out of shares you paid for at the short term rate that you held for under one year, and the "profit" would be on the ones you got from Walmart and held for at least a year at the long term rate on a future year's tax filing.
07:26 DaemonFC; I suppose you could also do it on the same return.
07:26 DaemonFC; It's one calendar year, not one tax year.
07:27 DaemonFC; It's set up this way on purpose.
07:28 DaemonFC; Stock trading rules mainly benefit the rich and they know how to structure things like this on an enormous scale.
07:29 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, they corrupt the public schools so that everyone else is loading up on credit card debt and can't balance a checkbook.
07:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
07:29 DaemonFC; I don't think the money markets are going to slow down much.
07:30 DaemonFC; I'm going to see what the Federal Reserve does with interest rates and where that takes CDs.
07:30 DaemonFC; I might pull them all early (no penalty) and buy fresh ones if the rate goes up.
07:33 DaemonFC; Walmart's revenue and net income are doing a lot better lately than they usually do.
07:33 DaemonFC; Like I said, more people have to shop there.
07:33 DaemonFC; It's the economy, stupid!
07:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Tesla investors reacted badly to the price cuts.
07:34 DaemonFC; Stock down 10% in one day.
07:35 DaemonFC; https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-ship-china-model-y-to-canada-tsla-stock-keeps-falling/
07:35 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-ship-china-model-y-to-canada-tsla-stock-keeps-falling/ )
07:35 DaemonFC; They have no pricing strategy.
07:35 DaemonFC; Musk fucked Tesla bad when he made the decision to use foreign-made battery components and materials and GM and Ford didn't.
07:36 DaemonFC; If you thought the cars were shit before, wait until they have to cut corners to deal with this.
07:37 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-fox-news-exit-162319291.html
07:37 TR Bot; Tucker Carlsons Fox News Exit Erases $507 Million in Value
07:38 DaemonFC; Carlson's firing triggered a stock selloff that was almost the size of what they lost in the settlement.
07:41 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-deepening-selloff-shows-investors-040140031.html
07:41 TR Bot; Chinas Deepening Selloff Shows Investors Are Losing Confidence
07:42 DaemonFC; The US markets certainly have their flaws, there's no doubt about it. But we're a relatively free market to invest in compared with China.
07:43 DaemonFC; Had the government not listened to Education Expert Creepy Bill the workforce quality may not have deteriorated to the point where China is overcoming the fact that the government may not even let you have your money or could seize your business with no warning.
07:44 DaemonFC; https://www.barrons.com/articles/bud-light-exec-takes-leave-after-boycott-calls-15a86829?siteid=yhoof2
07:44 TR Bot; Two Bud Light Execs Leave After Calls to Boycott | Barron's
07:45 DaemonFC; The real scandal shouldn't be their tranny issues.
07:45 DaemonFC; It should be that a beer company whose customers are mainly conservative thought they should partner with a TikTok Tranny to do what exactly?
07:45 DaemonFC; "Influencer"
07:46 DaemonFC; Their beer isn't particularly good.
07:46 DaemonFC; Its selling points are it's cheap and they have rebates all the time, making it super cheap.
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08:23 DaemonFC; Nitter works again.
08:23 DaemonFC; ": @Twitter has quietly removed a section of its hateful conduct policy that aimed to protect transgender people from targeted misgendering and deadnaming."
08:24 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG re-tweeted.
08:24 DaemonFC; From Twitter.
08:24 DaemonFC; :)
08:24 DaemonFC; mjg59_, :D
08:24 schestowitz; tesla is a joke
08:24 schestowitz; it is worthless
08:24 DaemonFC; How does it feel to be on Gab, Matt?
08:24 schestowitz; it may never make a dine for shareholders
08:26 TR News; The 6.3 kernel is released https://lwn.net/Articles/929851/
08:26 TR Bot; 6.3 kernel is released [LWN.net]
08:26 DaemonFC; "You can't require people have a Twitter account to file a DMCA takedown request. The law just doesn't work that way. And nor can you ignore requests that come from people without accounts, unless you're ok losing your Safe Harbor protections."
08:26 DaemonFC; -GULAG
08:26 DaemonFC; So what did he do? Make it an autoresponder with a shit emoji?
08:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz, When I had AT&T DSL it kept sending me email about being infected by a virus that was "using IRC".
08:27 DaemonFC; So you had to reply "I am taking steps to address this infection." or they'd terminate your account.
08:27 DaemonFC; So I set up an autoreply to that email that kept saying that.
08:30 TR News; San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department shuts down internet systems following recent cyberattack https://abc7.com/san-bernardino-cyberattack-ransomware-hyperlink/13176620/
08:30 TR Bot; Bernardino County Sheriff's Department shuts down internet systems following recent cyberattack - ABC7 Los Angeles
08:30 TR News; Yellow Pages Canada confirms cyber attack as Black Basta leaks data https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/yellow-pages-canada-confirms-cyber-attack-as-black-basta-leaks-data/
08:30 TR Bot; Yellow Pages Canada confirms cyber attack as Black Basta leaks data
08:31 TR News; Naivas Supermarkets System Hacked, Data Stolen https://www.databreaches.net/naivas-supermarkets-system-hacked-data-stolen/
08:31 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/naivas-supermarkets-system-hacked-data-stolen/ )
08:32 TR News; (NEW): What's new in GNOME 44 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/What_s_new_in_GNOME_44.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/What_s_new_in_GNOME_44.gmi
08:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines What's new in GNOME 44
08:35 schestowitz-TR; https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mjWkWja#replies
08:35 TR Bot; Earnings are today - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
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08:36 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi
08:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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08:37 TR News; (NEW): Programming: nativescript and Rust http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_nativescript_and_Rust.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_nativescript_and_Rust.gmi
08:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming: nativescript and Rust
08:37 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> schestowitz, When I had AT&T DSL it kept sending me email about being infected by a virus that was "using IRC".
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08:38 schestowitz; connection terminated for the rime of using IRC
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08:44 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 24, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/irc-log-240423/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/irc-log-240423/
08:44 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 24, 2023 | Techrights
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08:56 TR News; Microsofts Share in China: From Web Dominance to Almost Nothing in Less Than a Decade | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/loss-of-dominance/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/loss-of-dominance/
08:56 TR Bot; Microsofts Share in China: From Web Dominance to Almost Nothing in Less Than a Decade | Techrights
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
09:00 TR News; Error mounting /dev/sdb2 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, missing codepage or helper program, or other error gemini://nuacht.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-error-mounting.gmi
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09:01 TR News; "It was I guess "technically" the first chatbot to use GPT-4, and I would say it is still the best one currently on the market. Initially rolled on February 7th, it was memed at launch. Not only did it make errors, it made headlines when it seemingly tried to convince people it wanted to be human, along with flirting with people." gemini://linuxnerd.smol.pub/4-24-2023
09:01 schestowitz; DaemonFC: disconnected for using irc
09:02 TR News; Album #244: B.B. King - Live at the Regal gemini://hammock.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-244-bb-king-live-at-the-regal.gmi
09:03 TR News; "The good songs are great. There just aren't that many great songs on here. By the end it really starts tailing off. It's a quintessential solo effort after a band breaks up: some good ideas, but too much filler." gemini://hammock.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-243-george-michael-faith.gmi
09:03 DaemonFC; Installing updates.
09:04 TR News; "The marketers are at it again, whipping up a public frenzy with generative AI. To be fair, it's pretty amazing, but once again it is not what it looks like, and the backlash will inevitably come, bringing yet another AI winter." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-04-25.ai.gmi
09:05 TR News; "I thought back on my time when I was really active in the nosurf subreddit. I used to be one of the three taking care of the project around 2018/19; I helped moderate the subreddit, build the site, write articles for the blog, make informative threads on the forum and so on (as anthymnx)" gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/thoughtsonnosrf
09:06 TR News; Splitting French and English capsules gemini://albertlarsan68.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-split-french-english.gmi "I was posting both french and english posts on this capsule, but since I created a new one, I will only post english posts here."
09:08 TR News; "So a few years ago I was in a Discord chat for /r/worldbuilding. I was talking to one of the mods, who happened to be running a web comic at the time. As it turned out, the comic is mostly horror-themed, which is /entirely/ not my cup of tea, so I don't actually read it." gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/not-a-merc.gmi
09:09 TR News; "... or, we're buying a house!" gopher://alexkarle.com/0/phlog/035.txt
09:13 TR News; "While the jury will hear the recordings of both songs, probably many times" https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ed-sheeran-hit-marvin-gaye-classic-soul-of-copyright-trial-1.6368114 | Source: CTV News
09:13 TR Bot; Ed Sheeran-Marvin Gaye copyright trial begins | CTV News
09:13 TR News; "The music industry is keenly interested in the outcome" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/24/arts/music/ed-sheeran-marvin-gaye-copyright-trial.html | Source: New York Times
09:13 TR Bot; Ed Sheeran Trial: Did He Copy Marvin Gaye? Heres What to Know. - The New York Times
09:14 TR News; "The heirs of Ed Townsend, who co-wrote the 1973 soul classic, are suing Sheeran" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-24/ed-sheeran-sued-by-for-copyright-violation-of-marvin-gaye-song/102262156 | Source: ABC
09:14 TR Bot; Ed Sheeran to face trial over copyright claim involving Marvin Gaye's Let's Get it On - ABC News
09:14 TR News; "The lawsuit filed in 2017 has finally made it to a trial that is expected to last a week in the Manhattan federal courtroom of 95-year-old Judge Louis L. Stanton." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/04/24/ed-sheeran-copyright-lawsuit-marvin-gaye-townsend/b345f58c-e25d-11ed-9696-8e874fd710b8_story.html | Source: The Washington Post
09:14 TR Bot; Did Ed Sheeran hit pilfer Marvin Gaye classic? Trial to tell - The Washington Post
09:15 TR News; "the patent itself does not mention Meteor Lake" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-patent-reveals-meteor-lake-adamantine-l4-cache | Source: Tom's Hardware
09:15 TR Bot; Intel's Patent Details Meteor Lake's 'Adamantine' L4 Cache | Tom's Hardware
09:15 TR News; "The USPTO, however, didn't accept Thaler's paperwork since it could only consider inventions from "natural persons" and not machines." https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/us_supreme_court_patent_ai_inventor/ | Source: The Register UK
09:15 TR Bot; Supreme Court won't hear plea to recognize AI as inventors The Register
09:17 TR News; "An appeals court on Monday mostly sided with Apple over its App Store rules in a suit with Epic Games." https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/24/apple-declares-victory-after-decision-reached-in-epic-games-appeal-.html | Source: CNBC
09:17 TR Bot; Apple declares victory after decision reached in Epic Games appeal
09:17 TR News; "Apple said it may appeal the decision." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/apple-cannot-ban-links-to-outside-app-store-payments-us-appeals-court-says/articleshow/99745915.cms | Source: India Times
09:17 TR Bot; apple: Apple cannot ban links to outside App Store payments, US appeals court says - The Economic Times
09:17 TR News; ellsberg https://www.projectcensored.org/celebrating-daniel-ellsberg-week-a-special-episode-of-the-project-censored-show-with-kevin-gosztola-and-daniel-ellsberg/ | Source: Project Censored
09:17 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/celebrating-daniel-ellsberg-week-a-special-episode-of-the-project-censored-show-with-kevin-gosztola-and-daniel-ellsberg/ )
09:19 TR News; "Hardware Security Modules (HSMs) have not substantially evolved in the last two decades." https://unmitigatedrisk.com/?p=733 | Source: Unmitigated Risk
09:19 TR Bot; The Evolution and Limitations of Hardware Security Modules | UNMITIGATED RISK
09:19 TR News; "Bowser was sentenced in February 2022 to 40 months in prison for his part as a member of a hacking group called Team-Xecuter" https://www.databreaches.net/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ | Source: Data Breaches
09:19 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ )
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 TR News; "In order to pay off Nintendo fully under this agreement" https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ | Source: 1981 Media Ltd
09:20 TR Bot; Switch hacker Gary Bowser released from jail, will pay Nintendo 25-30% income for the rest of his life | VGC
09:20 TR News; "Netflix is delighted to confirm that we will invest USD 2.5 billion in Korea including the creation of Korean series, films, and unscripted shows over the next four years" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/netflix-to-invest-2-5-billion-in-south-korean-content/articleshow/99746427.cms | Source: India Times
09:20 TR Bot; netflix: Netflix to invest $2.5 billion in South Korean content - The Economic Times
09:25 TR News; "These towers will provide connectivity to 336 villages, mostly in border areas." https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/northeast/2023/apr/23/boosting-connectivity-in-border-villages-254-4g-mobile-network-towers-launched-in-arunachal-2568607.html | Source: New Indian Express
09:25 TR Bot; Boosting connectivity in border villages: 254 4G mobile network towers launched in Arunachal- The New Indian Express
09:25 TR News; "The Philippines is an archipelago comprising three major island groups" https://blog.apnic.net/2023/04/25/the-philippines-internet-landscape/ | Source: APNIC
09:25 TR Bot; The Philippines Internet landscape | APNIC Blog
09:26 TR News; "On 4-5 April, the South East Europe (SEE) Internet community gathered in the coastal town of Split" https://labs.ripe.net/author/anastasiya-pak/all-we-saw-at-see-11/ | Source: RIPE
09:26 TR Bot; All We Saw at SEE 11 | RIPE Labs
09:27 TR News; "Amazon drivers and dispatchers in California have joined the International Brotherhood of Teamsters" https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ygaw/a-group-of-amazon-drivers-just-joined-one-of-the-biggest-unions-in-the-us | Source: Vice Media Group
09:27 TR Bot; A Group of Amazon Drivers Just Joined One of the Biggest Unions in the US
09:27 TR News; "The European Council on April 24 said it was placing sanctions on eight individuals" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-west-tightens-sanctions/32377386.html | Source: RFERL
09:27 TR Bot; U.S., EU, Britain Tighten Sanctions On Iran For Rights Abuses, With Focus On IRGC
09:29 TR News; "In his memo announcing the closure of BuzzFeeds news operations, CEO Jonah Peretti acknowledged a grave mistake" https://www.wired.com/story/buzzfeed-news-facebook-future/ | Source: Wired
09:29 TR Bot; Made BuzzFeed, Then Killed It | WIRED
09:29 TR News; "On April 20, authorities in Tehran arrested Samimi, the editor-in-chief of the state-run Iran-e Farda magazine, and took him to an undisclosed location, according to news reports." https://cpj.org/2023/04/journalist-kayvan-samimi-rearrested-in-iran-held-in-undisclosed-location/ | Source: CPJ
09:29 TR Bot; Journalist Kayvan Samimi rearrested in Iran, held in undisclosed location - Committee to Protect Journalists
09:29 TR News; "On March 23, 2023, Dongs family was notified that he would face trial for espionage" https://cpj.org/2023/04/chinese-journalist-dong-yuyu-held-since-february-2022-facing-espionage-charges/ | Source: CPJ
09:29 TR Bot; Chinese journalist Dong Yuyu held since February 2022, facing espionage charges - Committee to Protect Journalists
09:33 TR News; "Matt Hicks, CEO of IBM-owned Red Hat, said the Linux distro maker plans to lay off just under four percent" https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/ibm_red_hat_layoffs/ | Source: The Register UK
09:33 TR Bot; IBM announces small layoff at Red Hat The Register
09:33 TR News; "The two cases right now may not have the same spotlight appeal" https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/supreme-court-hear-cases-involving-disputes-public-officials-blocking-people-social-media/ | Source: Silicon Angle
09:33 TR Bot; Court to hear cases involving disputes over public officials blocking people on social media - SiliconANGLE
09:33 TR News; "the content of these bills varies drastically from state to state." https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/04/24/1071992/child-safety-privacy-bills-us-tech-policy/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
09:33 TR Bot; Why child safety bills are popping up all over the US | MIT Technology Review
09:34 TR News; "Musk has always been at the loggerheads with traditional media." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitter-a-serious-danger-for-traditional-media-to-control-the-narrative-elon-musk/articleshow/99724771.cms | Source: India Times
09:34 TR Bot; twitter news: Twitter a serious danger for traditional media's ability to control narrative: Elon Musk - The Economic Times
09:34 TR News; "In an interaction with IANS during his India visit last week" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/coding-is-the-only-global-language-i-wish-more-indian-kids-learn-it-tim-cook/articleshow/99721470.cms | Source: India Times
09:34 TR Bot; Tim Cook: Coding is the only global language, I wish more Indian kids learn it: Apple CEO Tim Cook - The Economic Times
09:37 TR News; "Formed only in 2021, Stellantis is a merger of two legacy carmakers" https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/stellantis-e-fuels-decarbonize-combustion-engines | Source: Interesting Engineering
09:37 TR Bot; EU-based automaker is testing 'low carbon fuels' for existing cars
09:37 TR News; "Having an Eaton Ellipse ECO UPS, I use the NUT project to manage it under OpenBSD." https://doc.huc.fr.eu.org/en/sys/openbsd/nut/ | Source: Stphane Huc
09:37 TR Bot; Stphane HUC :: IT Log :: OpenBSD: Managing an inverter/converter with NUT
09:37 TR News; "creating more sustainable urban mobility" https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/stockholm-launches-worlds-first-autonomous-fully-electric-passenger-ferry | Source: Interesting Engineering
09:37 TR Bot; Stockholm launches worlds first autonomous, fully-electric passenger ferry
09:37 TR News; "Stockholm launches the world's first self-driving commercial passenger ferry" https://news.cision.com/zeam/r/premiere-of-the-world-s-first-self-driving-ferry,c3756788 |
09:37 TR Bot; Premiere of the world's first self-driving ferry - Zeam
09:42 TR News; "Experts pointed out that the international norms for age of consent is 16 and are arguing that a significant part of the population will have to go through many hoops to get Internet access." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/data-bill-agegating-worries-edtech-gaming-social-media-firms/articleshow/99740502.cms | Source: India Times
09:42 TR Bot; data bill agegating: Data Bill age-gating worries edtech, gaming, social media firms - The Economic Times
09:42 TR News; "In an open letter, seven secure messaging appsincluding Signal and WhatsApppoint out that the UKs Online Safety Bill could destroy end-to-end encryption: [...]" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/04/uk-threatens-end-to-end-encryption.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
09:42 TR Bot; Threatens End-to-End Encryption - Schneier on Security
09:42 TR News; "Metas WhatsApp is threatening to leave the UK if the government passes the Online Safety Bill, saying it will essentially eliminate its encryption methods." https://gizmodo.com/whatsapp-signal-uk-online-safety-bill-encryption-censor-1850347516 | Source: Gizmodo
09:42 TR Bot; WhatsApp, Signal Threaten to Leave UK Over 'Online Safety Bill'
09:42 TR News; [Old] "WhatsApps warning follows similar threats from another encrypted messaging app" https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/10/23633601/uk-online-safety-bill-encryption-whatsapp-leave | Source: The Verge
09:42 TR Bot; WhatsApp says it will leave the UK rather than weaken encryption under Online Safety Bill - The Verge
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10:11 TR News; Links 24/04/2023: A Focus on Red Hat and Fedora | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/red-hat-and-fedora/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/red-hat-and-fedora/
10:11 TR Bot; Links 24/04/2023: A Focus on Red Hat and Fedora | Techrights
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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10:38 TR News; Proprietary crap from Microsoft spoils the broth https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/04/24/deleting-system32curl-exe/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
10:38 TR Bot; system32\curl.exe | daniel.haxx.se
10:39 TR News; "The outage is only the latest to hit Microsoft this year and comes just days after a problem causing high CPU utilization rates in some of its infrastructure" https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/microsoft_365_search_outage/ | Source: The Register UK
10:39 TR Bot; Users complain as Microsoft 365 hit by yet another outage The Register
10:39 TR News; "Is the addiction caused and fueled by social networks a new drug?" https://www.ekathimerini.com/opinion/interviews/1209227/expert-warns-of-mental-toll-of-social-media/ | Source: Greece
10:39 TR Bot; warns of mental toll of social media | eKathimerini.com
10:40 TR News; "Health Behavior in School-aged Children (HBSC)" https://www.ekathimerini.com/culture/1209298/teens-still-reading-books-in-age-of-social-media/ | Source: Greece
10:40 TR Bot; still reading books in age of social media | eKathimerini.com
10:48 TR News; Simplest-possible examples, pointy regions, and nearly-orthogonal vector https://blog.plover.com/2023/04/20/#2023-04 | Source: Mark Dominus
10:48 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Math SE report 2023-04: Simplest-possible examples, pointy regions, and nearly-orthogonal vectors
10:49 TR News; "Drones as heavy as 300 pounds have found a home in New York." https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/04/20/300-pounds-drones-new-york-nuair/ |
10:49 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/04/20/300-pounds-drones-new-york-nuair/ )
10:49 TR News; "In mild cases, the difference between the stereo and mono versions of a song or album can be summarised by the different mixing techniques" https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/significantly-different-mono-stereo-mixes-on-records/ |
10:49 TR Bot; Significantly Different Mono/Stereo Mixes on Records - Sound Matters
10:50 TR News; "Discover the world of indie music, its rich history, and its diverse sub-genres" https://www.provos.org/p/what-is-indie-music/ | Source: Niels Provos
10:50 TR Bot; What is Indie Music? Activ8te's Comprehensive Guide for New Listeners and Musicians
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:21 *immibis is now known as SolidGoldMagikarp
11:32 TR News; The Sirius Open Source Fantasy Part III Staff Input (From Technical Workers) Not Accepted | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/input-unwelcomed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/input-unwelcomed/
11:32 TR Bot; The Sirius Open Source Fantasy Part III Staff Input (From Technical Workers) Not Accepted | Techrights
11:34 SolidGoldMagikarp; i see psydruid still has immibis derangement syndrome
11:35 psydruid; lol
11:35 martylake; This chan has so many articles per day. How do you keep up ?
11:35 SolidGoldMagikarp; now you get to complain about pokemon names
11:35 SolidGoldMagikarp; martylake: don't
11:35 psydruid; long time no see, immibis
11:35 martylake; SolidGoldMagikarp: I am interested by people conversing, and that happens on another timezone it seems.
11:36 martylake; (gm everyone)
11:36 psydruid; how is professional Minecraft modding going?
11:36 psydruid; immibis is the one who impersonates members of this channel
11:37 schestowitz; martylake: groupwork
11:37 psydruid; that looks like a far worse impersonation syndrome
11:37 martylake; schestowitz: What is groupwork?
11:37 schestowitz; it's not just one person
11:37 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
11:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
11:37 schestowitz; ^^ my wife
11:37 psydruid; I suppose it's gulagboy, immibitch and friends
11:38 schestowitz; Andropid new curation
11:40 SolidGoldMagikarp; martylake: as you can see people here are a little toxic
11:41 psydruid; wie de schoen past, trekke hem aan
11:44 SolidGoldMagikarp; I wonder how long it will take them to forget who this nick is
11:44 psydruid; "him" not "them"
11:45 SolidGoldMagikarp; I wasn't aware everyone here was one person, though I suppose it makes sense
11:46 psydruid; it does indeed
11:47 psydruid; anyway, I'm waiting for the next article about Microsoft and IBM layoffs
11:47 TR News; Part 4 will be out this week or coming weekend. Might be the latest of this series on Sirius 'Open Source'. http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source#The_Post_Mortem
11:47 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source - Techrights
11:48 TR News; This other ongoing series may go on for 1-2 months longer. Until prosecution. http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source#Police_Gets_Involved
11:48 TR Bot; Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights
11:49 SolidGoldMagikarp; psydruid must work at microsoft and IBM and got laid off, that's how they have time to be delusional about me
11:50 psydruid; ^ clown
11:50 SolidGoldMagikarp; says the deranged one
11:51 psydruid; says one of immibis's twisted personalities
11:51 *SolidGoldMagikarp is now known as TwistedPersonality
11:51 psydruid; but keep going, it's becoming clear how much of a clown you are
11:53 TwistedPersonality; What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the IRCeals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on libera, and I have over 300 confirmed sockpuppets. I am trained in gorilla warezfare and Im the top shitposter in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will troll you the fuck out with precision the likes of which
11:53 TwistedPersonality; has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.
11:53 psydruid; http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/microsofts-quarterly-results-for-this-week-expected-to-disappoint-more-layoffs-this-week-or-in-summer-july/
11:53 TR Bot; Microsofts Quarterly Results for This Week Expected to Disappoint, More Layoffs This Week or in Summer (July) | Techrights
12:03 schestowitz; is bndtroll still a thing
12:03 schestowitz; call BND
12:03 schestowitz; get back your little baby
12:04 schestowitz; Finalising a blog posy
12:04 schestowitz; post
12:04 schestowitz; "All Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction"
12:04 schestowitz; it has a video, too
12:04 psydruid; yes
12:04 schestowitz; "hail hitler"
12:05 psydruid; a truly pathetic excuse for a human being
12:06 schestowitz; " Microsoft is losing it; as a result, the media is being co-opted and trolling by Microsoft enablers appears to have gotten worse than usual (broderline illegal)"
12:06 schestowitz; waiting for video processing to finish..
12:08 psydruid; the job isn't done until Microsoft and IBM are gone
12:08 schestowitz; not just them
12:08 schestowitz; but I'd start with MSFT
12:08 psydruid; that's only the first job
12:09 schestowitz; creepy bill bribed my employer
12:09 schestowitz; at the time
12:09 schestowitz; and signed NDA
12:09 schestowitz; many things made no sense after that
12:09 psydruid; I want IBM gone too
12:09 schestowitz; ICBM is still bigger
12:09 schestowitz; iirc
12:09 schestowitz; unless you count "channel"
12:09 schestowitz; MSVs etc.
12:09 psydruid; in headcount perhaps
12:09 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM?wprov=srpw1_0
12:09 TR Bot; IBM - Wikipedia
12:10 schestowitz; Number of employees288,300
12:10 schestowitz; direct
12:10 schestowitz; microsoft has
12:10 schestowitz; temps
12:10 schestowitz; contractors
12:10 schestowitz; channel partners
12:10 schestowitz; and moles
12:10 schestowitz; inc. "ex" MSFT
12:10 schestowitz; gov. offcials
12:10 schestowitz; or peopel like Chris Krebs
12:10 schestowitz; talking about politics
12:10 schestowitz; pushing MSFT
12:10 schestowitz; after working there
12:10 schestowitz; having said hat,
12:10 schestowitz; microsoft
12:10 schestowitz; has the same
12:10 schestowitz; as ICBM
12:10 schestowitz; examples
12:11 schestowitz; AMD CEO
12:11 schestowitz; iirc, she used to be ICBM
12:11 schestowitz; same with Novell
12:11 schestowitz; Hovsepian came from ICBM
12:11 schestowitz; several other execs at Novell had come from there
12:11 schestowitz; ICBM employed millions over the years
12:11 schestowitz; people still in the workforce
12:11 schestowitz; like, ICBM 1980-1990, then some other company
12:12 schestowitz; millions of people like these all around the world
12:12 schestowitz; IICBM used to employ about half a million directly
12:12 schestowitz; HP/HPE also massive
12:12 schestowitz; i was surprised whe I checked
12:12 psydruid; massive printer performance
12:12 psydruid; with compliments from Belluzzo
12:12 psydruid; and Fiorina
12:13 schestowitz; HPE is now 60,200 (2022)
12:13 schestowitz; HP was MASSIVE
12:13 psydruid; HP was once innovative
12:13 schestowitz; 1980s
12:13 schestowitz; "Sales reached $6.5 billion in 1985 with 85,000 employee"
12:13 psydruid; when Hewlett and Packard were still around
12:13 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hewlett-Packard
12:13 TR Bot; Hewlett-Packard - Wikipedia
12:13 schestowitz; "At the end of 2013 the company had 317,500 employees"
12:14 schestowitz; 317k!
12:14 schestowitz; many ex-HP
12:14 schestowitz; I worked with some
12:14 schestowitz; as clients and colleagues
12:14 schestowitz; lots of people still pre-pension age
12:14 schestowitz; mmmany worked there
12:14 schestowitz; even directly
12:15 schestowitz; now we have samsung
12:15 schestowitz; in korea many work for samsung, hyundai, and lg
12:15 schestowitz; even military
12:16 schestowitz; psydruid: notice the trolls went quiet
12:16 schestowitz; working on ""All Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty)
12:16 schestowitz; "
12:16 psydruid; the trolls are going out of their minds trying to stem the tide of bad news flooding this and other channels of communcation
12:17 psydruid; I am also going to watch this one
12:17 psydruid; http://techrights.org/2023/04/23/v-alex-brennen-kurt-keville-on-freedom-hardware/
12:17 TR Bot; LibrePlanet Talk About ARM and RISC-V | Techrights
12:17 schestowitz; yeah
12:17 schestowitz; i watched part of that
12:17 schestowitz; gonna add another talk now
12:18 schestowitz; maybe i will submit a talk for next year
12:18 schestowitz; on a technical topic
12:18 psydruid; hopefully that will put the final nail in the coffin of the likes of Dell, Asus, Acer, HP/HPE etc. in the longer term
12:18 psydruid; x86 is more about tech colonialism than anything else
12:18 psydruid; get rid of it, get rid of all of those companies too
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:27 TR News; Lori Angela Nagel on Promoting Free/Libre Software Philosophy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/libre-software-philosophy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/libre-software-philosophy/
12:27 TR Bot; Lori Angela Nagel on Promoting Free/Libre Software Philosophy | Techrights
12:28 schestowitz; video ready..
12:33 TR News; All That Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-losing-it/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-losing-it/
12:34 TR Bot; All That Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty) | Techrights
12:37 TR News; blog
12:38 TR News; "A lot of programming languages allow variable shadowing in new scopes." https://ntietz.com/blog/rust-shadowing-idiomatic/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
12:38 TR Bot; Rust allows redeclaring local variables to great benefit | nicholas@web
12:38 TR News; "This isn't just an aspect of general Unix development after all sorts of people got their hands on it (and created things like Perl)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/UnixAndAutomaticMemoryManagement | Source: University of Toronto
12:38 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/UnixAndAutomaticMemoryManagement
12:38 TR News; <li>
12:39 TR News; "In a previous installment of this series, I wrote about adding a project-specific .pryrc to Ruby/Rails projects." https://citizen428.net/blog/rails-quick-tips-7-project-specific-irbrc/ | Source: Michael Kohl
12:39 TR Bot; quick tips #7: Project-specific .irbrc - citizen428.net
12:39 TR News; "With a lot of my time on the command line being spent using git..." https://www.olafalders.com/2023/04/23/autocorrecting-my-git-commands/ | Source: Olaf Alders
12:39 TR Bot; my Git Commands - olafalders.com
12:39 TR News; [Old] "In this article, I would like to find out the concrete performance penalty of false sharing for my data structure." https://alic.dev/blog/false-sharing.html |
12:39 TR Bot; Measuring the Impact of False Sharing
12:40 TR News; "At the closing ceremony, the con chair asked the GoHs there was anything that went wrong." https://mwl.io/archives/22740 | Source: MWL
12:40 TR Bot; Ten Years of Penguicon Pop Tarts Michael W Lucas
12:41 TR News; "Here is a fun little view on the progress of PostgreSQL." http://peter.eisentraut.org/blog/2023/04/25/create-commands-in-postgresql-releases | Source: Peter Eisentraut
12:41 TR Bot; CREATE commands in PostgreSQL releases | Peter Eisentraut
12:41 TR News; Singapore tells its people: Go forth and block those ads https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/25/singapore_gov_ads/ | Source: The Register UK
12:41 TR Bot; Singapore govt pushes use of ad blockers The Register
12:43 TR News; "Audacity 3.3 comes seven months after the Audacity 3.2 series and introduces a new Shelf Filter effect that can be set for High-shelf or Low-shelf" https://9to5linux.com/audacity-3-3-audio-editor-adds-new-shelf-filter-effect-experimental-beats-and-bars | Source: 9to5Linux
12:43 TR Bot; 3.3 Audio Editor Adds New Shelf Filter Effect, Experimental Beats and Bars - 9to5Linux
12:43 TR News; "Audacity 3.3.0 makes more of its built-in effects realtime" https://www.omglinux.com/audacity-3-3-released/ | Source: OMG! Linux
12:43 TR Bot; Audacity 3.3 Released with More Real Time Effects - OMG! Linux
12:44 TR News; "don't we already have a rigid, stable, movable" https://www.markhansen.co.nz/pramera/ | Source: Mark Hansen
12:44 TR Bot; Pram/Stroller Camera Mount
12:45 TR News; "Whenever a new Camera Module, or updated software for existing camera hardware comes out" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/cinepi-a-high-end-film-camera-built-on-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
12:45 TR Bot; CinePI: a high-end film camera built on Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi
12:47 TR News; "To test this idea, Burton 3D-printed almost the entirety of the vehicle." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/24/bendy-tank-steers-by-flexing/ | Source: Arduino
12:47 TR Bot; Bendy robotic tank steers by flexing | Arduino Blog
12:47 TR News; "Weve covered sending sensor data over Wi-Fi before" https://www.sparkfun.com/news/6675 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
12:47 TR Bot; Sensor Data Over Bluetooth - News - SparkFun Electronics
12:47 TR News; "At the end of my keyboard PC blog post I mentioned that I really wanted a Schneider Euro PC." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2023/04/24/schneider-euro-pc-restoration-part-1/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
12:47 TR Bot; Schneider Euro PC: Restoration Part 1 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
12:48 TR News; "If this seems like a tough job, it is." https://staceyoniot.com/what-to-expect-with-6g-and-the-industrial-iot/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
12:48 TR Bot; What to expect with 6G and the industrial IoT - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
12:49 TR News; "I expect this article will be of broader interest than just to Haikus community" https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2023-04-24_condition_variables/ | Source: HaikuOS
12:49 TR Bot; Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation | Haiku Project
12:50 TR News; "it allows me to work faster when Im not home and with a poor internet connection" https://carlosbecker.com/posts/pbcopy-pbpaste-open-ssh/ | Source: Carlos Becker
12:50 TR Bot; Sharing open, pbcopy and pbpaste over SSH
12:50 TR News; "Metawork is so much more fun than real work. Sharpening your pencils." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/04/using-pandoc-to-format-a-dissertation-from-markdown-to-html-pdf-and-epub/ | Source: Terence Eden
12:50 TR Bot; Using Pandoc to format a Dissertation from Markdown to HTML, PDF, and ePub Terence Edens Blog
12:53 TR News; "Based on the recently released Linux 6.3 kernel" https://9to5linux.com/gnu-linux-libre-6-3-kernel-is-out-for-those-seeking-100-freedom-for-their-pcs | Source: 9to5Linux
12:53 TR Bot; Linux-Libre 6.3 Kernel Is Out for Those Seeking 100% Freedom for Their PCs - 9to5Linux
12:53 TR News; "At its core, a semaphore is an integer counter used to control access to a resource." https://lwn.net/Articles/928026/ | Source: LWN
12:53 TR Bot; shrinking role of semaphores [LWN.net]
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:01 TR News; "This article describes target-specific details about AArch32 in ELF linkers." https://maskray.me/blog/2023-04-23-linker-notes-on-aarch32 | Source: MaskRay
13:01 TR Bot; Linker notes on AArch32 | MaskRay
13:01 TR News; "ptrace (process trace) is a system call in Unix and Unix-like operating systems" https://matt-rickard.com/the-ptrace-syscall | Source: Matt Rickard
13:01 TR Bot; The ptrace syscall
13:02 TR News; "Tanenbaum-Torvalds debates" https://matt-rickard.com/tanenbaum-torvalds-debates-part-1 | Source: Matt Rickard
13:02 TR Bot; TanenbaumTorvalds Debates, Part 1
13:02 TR News; QEMU uses Microsoft hosting. Boo. https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/qemu_8/ | Source: The Register UK
13:02 TR Bot; QEMU 8.0 hatches more support for Arm and RISC-V The Register
13:03 TR News; billionaires as a failure https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/24/every-billionaire-is-a-policy-failure/
13:03 TR Bot; Every Billionaire Is a Policy Failure neritam
13:04 TR News; Oligarchy enforcing link rot: "Red Alert: ICANN and Verisign Proposal Would Allow Any Government in the World to Seize Domain Names" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/04/23/143222#1302793
13:04 TR Bot; Red Alert: ICANN and Verisign Proposal Would Allow Any Government in the World to Seize Domain Names - SoylentNews
13:04 TR News; EU chat control https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2023/04/24/chat-control-ministerradet-vill-lagra-metadata-och-blockera-sokresultat/
13:04 TR Bot; Chat Control: Ministerrdet vill lagra metadata och blockera skresultat
13:05 TR News; "TikTok users are demanding that their favorite musicians release sped-up songs" https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/viral/tiktok-sped-up-fast-songs-sounds-rcna79256 iophk: cultural genocide; the algorithm steers the sheeple, who then turn on and destroy their own culture
13:05 TR Bot; TikTok users are demanding that artists release sped-up songs
13:07 TR News; "C language is usually considered the base for many other programming languages" https://www.tecmint.com/best-ide-editor-linux/ | Source: TecMint
13:07 TR Bot; 27 Best IDEs or Source Code Editors for Linux
13:07 TR News; "Node Version Manager (NVM in short) is a simple bash script to manage multiple active node.js versions" https://www.tecmint.com/nvm-install-multiple-nodejs-versions-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint
13:07 TR Bot; NVM - Install and Manage Multiple Node.js Versions in Linux
13:07 TR News; "Recently OpenSSH 9.3 was released and ships with many new features and bug fixes" https://www.tecmint.com/install-openssh-server-from-source-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint
13:07 TR Bot; How to Install OpenSSH Server from Source in Linux
13:08 TR News; How to Configure DHCP Server on RHEL 9 / Rocky Linux 9 https://www.linuxtechi.com/configure-dhcp-server-on-rhel-rockylinux/ | Source: LinuxTechi
13:08 TR Bot; How to Configure DHCP Server on RHEL 9 / Rocky Linux 9
13:08 TR News; C vs. Go https://opensource.com/article/23/4/c-vs-go-programming-languages | Source: OpenSource.com
13:08 TR Bot; vs. Go: Comparing programming languages | Opensource.com
13:09 TR News; Message to Red Hat associates today https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today | Source: Red Hat Official
13:09 TR Bot; Message to Red Hat associates today
13:12 TR News; "As a system administrator, you might need to check all the processes that are consuming your computer's resources." https://linuxhandbook.com/check-running-process/ | Source: Linux Handbook
13:12 TR Bot; Check All Running Process in Linux
13:14 TR News; "Linus Torvalds announced the full release of Linux kernel 6.3, and with it plenty of the usual improvements everywhere." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/linux-kernel-6-3-out-now-some-quick-highlights/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:14 TR Bot; kernel 6.3 is out now here's some quick highlights | GamingOnLinux
13:16 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.gmi
13:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
13:16 TR News; "patches to improve HDR and Colour Management on Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/hdr-and-colour-management-patches-for-steam-deck-amd-gpus-under-review/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:16 TR Bot; and Colour Management patches for Steam Deck + AMD GPUs under review | GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR News; "Fanatical and accessory brand JSAUX have teamed up for a bundle of games" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/fanatical-team-up-with-jsaux-again-and-you-can-win-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR Bot; team up with JSAUX again and you can win a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR News; "Ellpeck Games have announced their pixel-art game inspired by The Sims" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/pixel-art-sims-styled-game-tiny-life-hits-early-access-on-may-3rd/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR Bot; Sims styled game Tiny Life hits Early Access on May 3rd | GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR News; "It's a compatibility layer (like Proton) but designed to help you run Native Linux game engines" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/linux-and-steam-deck-compatibility-tool-luxtorpeda-gets-upgraded-in-v63/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:17 TR Bot; and Steam Deck compatibility tool Luxtorpeda gets upgraded in v63 | GamingOnLinux
13:18 TR News; "Certain games on Steam that you play across either Linux desktop or Steam Deck get a specific version of Proton set by Valve" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/valve-moves-elden-ring-back-to-proton-7-as-it-has-issues-with-newer-proton/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:18 TR Bot; moves ELDEN RING back to Proton 7 as it has issues with newer Proton | GamingOnLinux
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; (NEW): Kernel/Linux News and Analysis http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Kernel_Linux_News_and_Analysis.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Kernel_Linux_News_and_Analysis.gmi
13:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kernel/Linux News and Analysis
13:21 TR News; (NEW): Games: HDR and Colour Management, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Games_HDR_and_Colour_Management_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Games_HDR_and_Colour_Management_Steam_and_More.gmi
13:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: HDR and Colour Management, Steam, and More
13:22 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: CinePI, Arduino, SparkFun, and Retro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Open_Hardware_Modding_CinePI_Arduino_SparkFun_and_Retro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Open_Hardware_Modding_CinePI_Arduino_SparkFun_and_Retro.gmi
13:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: CinePI, Arduino, SparkFun, and Retro
13:24 TR News; Microsoft. "What do you think will happen? Regarding layoffs, of course." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mjWkWja#replies
13:24 TR Bot; Earnings are today - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
13:25 TR News; "Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi said that employment instability at the major tech firms is making it easier to poach star talent even when they still have jobs." https://fudzilla.com/news/ai/56771-big-tech-lay-offs-are-already-costing-them
13:25 TR Bot; Big Tech lay-offs are already costing them
13:27 TR News; LibrePlanet: Weiming Hu on Free software for Environmental Sciences | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/weiming-hu-at-libreplanet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/weiming-hu-at-libreplanet/
13:27 TR Bot; LibrePlanet: Weiming Hu on Free software for Environmental Sciences | Techrights
13:39 martylake; schestowitz: psydruid: its crazy ! I never seen smoke operation *that* targetted before.
13:39 schestowitz; hard to prove it
13:39 schestowitz; but
13:39 schestowitz; it seems to be coordinated
13:40 schestowitz; gulagboy and some guy who claims to be german
13:40 schestowitz; they weapopnise trans people
13:40 schestowitz; they are not trand
13:40 schestowitz; gulagboy was in fact anti-trans
13:40 schestowitz; by his own admissionm
13:40 schestowitz; the goal is just to derail the channel/network
13:40 martylake; damned
13:41 psydruid; they are trying to portray completely reasonable people as deranged
13:41 martylake; I suppose it is not easy to ban this type of actors, isnt it ?
13:41 martylake; (new to IRC)
13:41 schestowitz; bans won't work
13:41 schestowitz; they will claim to eb "victims"
13:41 schestowitz; it's a trick/bait
13:41 schestowitz; they did this to FSF for years
13:42 martylake; ow, thats how it works then!
13:42 schestowitz; https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html
13:42 TR Bot; Updates | Stallman Support
13:42 schestowitz; "April 21, 2023
13:42 schestowitz; Added some posts from RMS's website that provide evidence he is not transphobic.
13:42 schestowitz; Updated a paragraph in the home page to say it's no longer possible to sign the support letter. Those who want to show support can send us comments, articles, testimonies, references, for us to publish.
13:42 schestowitz; April 20, 2023
13:42 schestowitz; Added a comment of support from a transgender person."
13:42 schestowitz; https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#polynka
13:42 TR Bot; Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
13:42 schestowitz; "And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none.
13:42 schestowitz; No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gender identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith."
13:42 psydruid; they are just not used to people calling them out for their destructive behaviour
13:43 psydruid; so when it happens they shrivel back to their corner planning for the next attack
13:43 psydruid; because they are like kids in grown people's bodies
13:44 psydruid; grown up*
13:51 schestowitz; techrights in past 24 hours: 16 posts
13:51 *schestowitz back to news curation
13:52 TR News; "HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI!!!" They actually meant... Large Language Models (LLM) https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/chatting-with-local-ai-moves-directly-in-browser-thanks-to-webllm/ | Source: Hackaday
↺ https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/chatting-with-local-ai-moves-directly-in-browser-thanks-to-webllm/
13:52 TR Bot; With Local AI Moves Directly In-Browser, Thanks To Web LLM | Hackaday
13:53 martylake; duely noted, thanks for the clarification.
13:53 TR News; 1940s: "mommy, will people one day speak to a machine?" 1950s: "yes, darling, here you go!" 2023: same, but with a lot more hype and more brute force (computing power/cycles).
13:54 TR News; LLMs are older than the person who invented the Internet
13:54 TR News; the public image of renesas will suffer profoundly for this! https://linuxgizmos.com/renesas-board-supports-microsoft-azure-cloud-connectivity/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
13:54 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/renesas-board-supports-microsoft-azure-cloud-connectivity/ )
13:55 TR News; Useless inventions much? If it's warmer, then it's not ICE cream. https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/warmer-ice-cream/ | Source: Hackaday
13:55 TR Bot; Ice Cream? | Hackaday
13:57 TR News; The strikes mean they hate you, Viktor https://telex.hu/english/2023/04/24/orban-praises-hungarian-teachers-on-day-of-nationwide-strike-but-fails-to-mention-the-strike | Source: Telex (Hungary)
13:57 TR Bot; Telex: Orbn praises Hungarian teachers on day of nationwide strike but fails to mention the strike
13:59 TR News; Worth every penny? What does this tell about the current system? https://cybernews.com/news/alphabet-ceo-sundar-pichai-salary/
13:59 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://cybernews.com/news/alphabet-ceo-sundar-pichai-salary/ )
14:00 TR News; Microsoft losing it, lying, pretending, distract from MOAR layoffs this week. Can the "market" sense it? https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/23/stock-futures-inch-down-as-wall-street-awaits-tech-earnings.html
14:00 TR Bot; Stock market today: Live updates
14:00 TR News; pwc = connected to corrupt EPO, Microsoft, and Sheela Microsoft (Jim Zemlin's wife, she came from there) https://michaelwest.com.au/pity-about-the-corporate-treason-pwc-is-back-winning-juicy-government-contracts/ | Source: Michael West Media
14:01 TR Bot; Pity about the corporate treason; PWC is back winning juicy government contracts - Michael West
14:02 martylake; techrights-ipfs-bot LLMs are older than the peron who invented the Internet: really ?!
14:05 TR News; Microsoft attacking anything that resembles what it overpaid for, even Free software clones https://torrentfreak.com/mojang-continues-crackdown-on-minecraft-pirates-230224/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:05 TR Bot; Continues Crackdown on Minecraft 'Pirates' * TorrentFreak
14:05 schestowitz; martylake: let's see year..
14:06 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model
14:06 TR Bot; Large language model - Wikipedia
14:06 schestowitz; PR-maniupulated
14:06 schestowitz; let's check a proper page
14:06 schestowitz; not corporate propaganda...
14:06 schestowitz; need to see history
14:07 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgen
14:07 TR Bot; SCIgen - Wikipedia
14:07 schestowitz; perl
14:07 schestowitz; 2005
14:07 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar
14:07 TR Bot; Context-free grammar - Wikipedia
14:07 schestowitz; chomsky worked on such things
14:07 schestowitz; "The formalism of context-free grammars was developed in the mid-1950s by Noam Chomsky"
14:07 schestowitz; 1950s
14:07 schestowitz; chomsky is about 95 now
14:08 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky
14:08 TR Bot; Noam Chomsky - Wikipedia
14:08 schestowitz; 94
14:08 martylake; schestowitz: 9 March 2023 creation of the wikipedia page about LLM
14:08 schestowitz; so initial work by man born 1928
14:08 schestowitz; martylake: probably by mirosoft
14:08 schestowitz; trhey edit wikipedia
14:08 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Waggener_Edstrom
14:08 TR Bot; Waggener Edstrom - Techrights
14:09 martylake; schestowitz: you mean, outside of the normal edit-publish cycle whitin wikipedia editor?
14:10 schestowitz; it's widely manipulated
14:10 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/
14:10 TR Bot; Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights
14:10 schestowitz; many more in http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/
14:10 TR Bot; Wikipedia | Techrights
14:10 schestowitz; i've lessened how much i link to wikipedia
14:10 schestowitz; it was taken over by governments and companies
14:10 schestowitz; inc. PR firms of companies
14:10 schestowitz; let them destroy it
14:11 schestowitz; till people realise what happened
14:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/lf-year-of-formation/
14:11 TR Bot; Wikipedia Helps Linux Foundation Spread Lies, Revisionism | Techrights
14:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/
14:11 TR Bot; Wikipedia is No Longer Trustworthy on Matters of Commerce and Politics (Because of Financial Motives and Power Incentives) | Techrights
14:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/
14:11 TR Bot; The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights
14:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/02/25/cancelled-in-wikipedia/
14:11 TR Bot; If Wikipedia is Controlled by Corporations and Mobs, It Needs to Be Cancelled | Techrights
14:11 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2014/03/17/wikipedia-and-microsoft/
14:11 TR Bot; Wikipedia Got Ruined by the Likes of Microsoft Who Pay People to Edit Articles About Microsoft | Techrights
14:12 TR News; iptv https://torrentfreak.com/leaked-ec-plan-to-combat-iptv-piracy-disappoints-rightsholders-230424/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:12 TR Bot; EC Plan to Combat IPTV Piracy Disappoints Rightsholders * TorrentFreak
14:12 schestowitz; wikipedia became "too" big
14:12 schestowitz; hence it was targeted
14:12 schestowitz; and it did not cope with the attack
14:12 schestowitz; it let it happen, eventually
14:13 TR News; Alex Salmond https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/04/defence-fund-appeal-united-nations-human-rights-committee/ | Source: Craig Murray
14:13 TR Bot; Defence Fund Appeal - United Nations Human Rights Committee - Craig Murray
14:18 TR News; "Moscows Bolshoi Theater dropped Kirill Serebrennikovs Nureyev, a ballet production" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/24/nureyev-will-live-on-in-freedom | Source: Meduza
14:18 TR Bot; Nureyev will live on, in freedom Stage director Kirill Serebrennikov on the Bolshoi-banished ballet and why Rudolf Nureyevs story matters today Meduza
14:19 TR News; Semiel Vedel https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/former-law-enforcement-officer-sentenced-to-7-years-in-penal-colony-for-private-phone-conversations-they-were-qualified-as-public-disinformation-because-his-phone-line-was-tapped | Source: Meduza
14:19 TR Bot; Former law enforcement officer sentenced to seven years in penal colony for private phone conversations, qualified as public since phone line was tapped Meduza
14:20 TR News; "Cassette players and tapes are fertile hacking ground." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/messing-with-a-cassette-player-never-sounded-so-good/ | Source: Hackaday
14:20 TR Bot; With A Cassette Player Never Sounded So Good | Hackaday
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; "Thanks to 3D printing and inexpensive controllers" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/60-robot-arm-is-compact/ | Source: Hackaday
14:20 TR Bot; Robot Arm Is Compact | Hackaday
14:25 martylake; schestowitz: I have troubles reading the articles, as they are all written as diffs, and require more context to grasp and reconstruct the meaning.
14:25 schestowitz; he images?
14:25 schestowitz; *the images
14:25 martylake; re wikipedia defacing: of course it is used for PR stunts.
14:25 schestowitz; it's hard to show what they do
14:25 schestowitz; as showing the actual diffs would be long
14:26 schestowitz; but they are removing bad press
14:26 schestowitz; and adding puff
14:26 martylake; yes.
14:26 schestowitz; and they are connected to the topic of the artticle
14:26 schestowitz; so they are there for PR
14:26 schestowitz; wikipedia is their "platform"
14:26 martylake; it is hard to track all these "isolated" and "coincidental" actions.
14:26 martylake; and reconstruct proper intent from.
14:26 TR News; (NEW): Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Interview_about_Linux_libre_to_nixsanctuary_com.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Interview_about_Linux_libre_to_nixsanctuary_com.gmi
14:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com
14:27 schestowitz; martylake: wikipedia has an editorial control problem
14:27 schestowitz; in many topics/strands
14:27 schestowitz; and it got worse
14:27 schestowitz; in recent years
14:27 schestowitz; criminals are "controversial"
14:27 schestowitz; controversials are good people
14:27 schestowitz; good people are deleted
14:27 martylake; re LLM, I am not well versed into AI, but I though LLM were different than previous technologies. I fail to understand how Context-free grammar is equivalent to LLM in that regard.
14:28 schestowitz; llms are trained on text
14:28 martylake; yes
14:28 schestowitz; and predict likely next x words
14:28 martylake; yes
14:28 schestowitz; with some grammatical rules
14:28 martylake; (they call words "token" for some reason)
14:28 schestowitz; they are just statistical lipsticks on the previous generation
14:29 martylake; sure
14:29 schestowitz; in LLMs, words are token too
14:29 schestowitz; they are just some object
14:29 martylake; all the "intelligence" is just emergent behavior, usefull ones though.
14:29 schestowitz; there is no real understanding
14:29 martylake; indeed.
14:29 schestowitz; only simulation thereof
14:30 schestowitz; it wasn't done much before as:
14:30 schestowitz; 1) it's expensive
14:30 schestowitz; 2) no business model (See (1))
14:30 schestowitz; 3) it's useless
14:30 martylake; still, a gap was bridged in usability of these tools. I can confess that it saved me a lot of time by not having to help a friend get started into learning python.
14:30 schestowitz; 4) it would not be accurate, see (3)
14:30 schestowitz; the media bribed by microsofty makes faux "sue cases" for it
14:31 schestowitz; llke "passing exam"
14:31 martylake; yep. all PR stunt for sure.
14:31 schestowitz; yeah
14:31 schestowitz; expensive PR stunt
14:31 schestowitz; plus,
14:31 schestowitz; expensive training
14:31 schestowitz; GPT-3
14:31 schestowitz; than 4
14:31 schestowitz; or "3.5"
14:31 schestowitz; no such thing
14:31 schestowitz; lots of vapourware
14:31 schestowitz; now they need more vapour, so some say "5"
14:32 martylake; _yet_, my friend was able to write its python script to scrap some webpage in a few hours of back and forth with the tool. as a real newbie in python scripting, it would have been more lengthy to just type search engine queries for sure!
14:32 martylake; /s/the tool/GPT-4/
14:33 TR News; Netherlands and UK expand energy collaboration https://www.h2-view.com/story/netherlands-and-uk-expand-energy-collaboration/
14:33 TR Bot; Netherlands and UK expand energy collaboration
14:34 schestowitz; martylake: go to google.com
14:34 martylake; I agree that there is tons of PR stunt, and lots of fear-mongering (AGI lol). still, these tools seem to provide an interface that "ticks" for some human because natural language, isnt it?
14:34 schestowitz; or searx.be
14:34 schestowitz; search for
14:34 schestowitz; examples python scraping
14:34 schestowitz; and some might be complete examples
14:34 schestowitz; and they are tested and work
14:34 schestowitz; not some spewed junk from a bag of "tokens"
14:36 martylake; I understand your harsh cricitism of early versions of this category of tools, but Ican attest that my friend was complete noob, and got its task done. It doesnt matter that internet already had all of the answers, in pieces, somewhere. Here, the answers were retrieved at the right moment, tuned for the problem at hand, hence, useful bag of "tokens".
14:37 martylake; once you know your way in python programming, you can already get things done by doing googl or searx searches, for sure!
14:37 schestowitz; sounds like the friend needed code
14:37 schestowitz; not words
14:37 schestowitz; so it was not the chaffbot
14:37 schestowitz; but maybe a GPL violation
14:38 schestowitz; some code harvesting like shithub co-pilot
14:38 martylake; probably.
14:38 schestowitz; without any attribution or markings
14:38 schestowitz; so many it was code ripped off
14:38 schestowitz; and there is a class action lawsuit over it right now
14:38 schestowitz; hence, possibly risky
14:38 martylake; scrapping the whole internet is not an operation that embarasses itself with copyrights.
14:38 schestowitz; the friend does not know where the code came from
14:39 schestowitz; <martylake> once you know your way in python programming, you can already get things done by doing googl or searx searches, for sure!
14:39 schestowitz; if you don't know how to run .py files, thewn you are doomed also
14:39 martylake; no, and the friend cannot care less! the code will be used and thrown away.
14:39 schestowitz; using google is eaier than running a .py file
14:39 martylake; I am trying to understand your point, which is more elaborate than "LLM = bad".
14:40 martylake; what you are saying is: LLM are expensive, and built on top of risky data sources,
14:40 martylake; therefore, they are not useful ever ?
14:40 schestowitz; that's nottt what i said
14:40 MinceR; they seem to understand language and they can use it
14:40 martylake; please correct me.
14:40 schestowitz; you are conflating two things
14:40 MinceR; they seem to be working fine in that regard, but people overhype them
14:41 martylake; nods at MinceR overyhpe comment
14:41 schestowitz; you moved the debate from chaffbots (chatbots)
14:41 schestowitz; to code
14:41 martylake; I tried to pick a concrete example, because staying vague enough doesnt get me to understand.
14:41 martylake; moving the debate wasnt the goal.
14:41 schestowitz; i see
14:41 schestowitz; anyway, those are different things
14:42 schestowitz; like debating copyrights
14:42 schestowitz; and then trademarks
14:42 martylake; it started out as "LLM is not new"
14:42 TR News; Why are April 24 remembrances being banned? https://www.bianet.org/english/minorities/277680-why-are-april-24-remembrances-being-banned
14:43 TR Bot; Why are April 24 remembrances being banned? - Evrim Kepenek - english
14:43 martylake; which expanded to "usefulness of LLM is better than previous working examples of related AI-tech like context-free grammar"
14:44 TR News; Turkey with Putin.. AND NATO? https://www.bianet.org/english/politics/277698-defense-ministers-of-turkey-russia-syria-and-iran-to-meet-in-moscow
14:44 martylake; and I tried to pick a concrete example of emergent behavior of LLM that I havent seen of related AI-tech like context-free grammar.
14:44 TR Bot; Defense Ministers of Turkey, Russia, Syria and Iran to meet in Moscow - english
14:45 martylake; Phrased differently then: how come LLM are not new, but they werent accessible before?
14:46 schestowitz; they are a generation
14:46 schestowitz; on top of something old
14:46 schestowitz; that nobody bothered with much
14:46 schestowitz; otuside academia
14:47 schestowitz; <schestowitz> it wasn't done much before as:
14:47 schestowitz; <schestowitz> 1) it's expensive
14:47 schestowitz; <schestowitz> 2) no business model (See (1))
14:47 schestowitz; <schestowitz> 3) it's useless
14:47 schestowitz; all 3 are still applicable
14:47 schestowitz; but that helps Mcirosoft distract
14:47 schestowitz; it needs to change subject
14:47 schestowitz; "clown colmputing" failed
14:47 schestowitz; "mobile-first" failed
14:47 schestowitz; Windows is failing
14:47 martylake; about $crosofrt distract, there is no debate.
14:47 schestowitz; so they need to present a "New Deal"
14:47 schestowitz; for shareholders
14:47 schestowitz; so they took some kids in california
14:47 schestowitz; who toyed around with some models
14:48 schestowitz; and then rbibes publishers
14:48 schestowitz; aka "media partners"
14:48 schestowitz; when i did my phd we did PCM
14:48 martylake; but "3) its useless" is not the reality.
14:48 schestowitz; a new version of PDMs
14:48 schestowitz; point distribution models are 1990s
14:48 schestowitz; invented here in manchester
14:48 schestowitz; we saw other potential
14:48 schestowitz; for colour analysis
14:48 schestowitz; and some incubated startups did it here
14:48 schestowitz; in the science parks etc.
14:49 schestowitz; but there was no good business case
14:49 schestowitz; martylake: it's pretty useless
14:49 schestowitz; the case you prsented is not LLMs
14:49 schestowitz; it's code
14:49 schestowitz; plagiarism likely
14:49 schestowitz; of GPL violation
14:49 schestowitz; biab
14:50 TR News; Censorship of history https://www.bianet.org/english/minorities/277713-police-prevent-armenian-genocide-commemoration-in-istanbul
14:50 TR Bot; Police prevent Armenian Genocide commemoration in stanbul - Evrim Kepenek - english
14:50 martylake; friend uses google to create python script to scrap, fails. same friend chats with GPT4, succeeds. how is that not success ?
14:51 martylake; how is that not related to LLMs ?
14:51 schestowitz; chats are not for code
14:51 schestowitz; better use stack exchange
14:51 schestowitz; or similar
14:51 schestowitz; they have working examples
14:52 schestowitz; btw, scrape/scraping is not hard
14:52 psydruid; how much did training GTP4 cost and how will it ever give a positive return on investment?
14:52 schestowitz; and hardly a unique thing
14:52 schestowitz; now I feel a little trolls tbh
14:52 schestowitz; *trolled
14:52 psydruid; if it wasn't for billions in investment, would it ever get off the ground?
14:52 schestowitz; it's like branson with his spaceship
14:53 schestowitz; for rich 'tourists'
14:53 psydruid; the ongoing cost is astronomical
14:53 schestowitz; it CAN be done
14:53 schestowitz; but how many would do it
14:53 schestowitz; and how many times?
14:53 psydruid; hence queries are rate-limited
14:53 martylake; schestowitz: am not trolling Ipromise. I just try to understand how people who thinks by themselves arrive at different conclusions.
14:53 schestowitz; concorde is dead
14:54 psydruid; isn't branson's spaceship business dead too?
14:54 schestowitz; martylake: your friend did not need scraping code
14:54 schestowitz; could get a catch-all toolbox
14:54 schestowitz; and configure it
14:54 schestowitz; scraping is a very widespread and generic task
14:54 schestowitz; like global REP
14:54 martylake; schestowitz: this failed too, because pages to be scrapped needed pagination (remember, friend it not computer-litterate)
14:54 schestowitz; psydruid: like spacex and starlink
14:54 schestowitz; not yet
14:54 schestowitz; but it will be
14:55 martylake; schestowitz: what you are saying, is that the apparent usefulness of LLM is just reaping the work of others ?
14:55 schestowitz; that's not LLM
14:55 schestowitz; you seem to be describing code scraping
14:55 schestowitz; for scraping
14:56 schestowitz; which is what microsoft did
14:56 schestowitz; scraped lots of stuff in shithub
14:56 schestowitz; inc. gpl/copyleft
14:56 schestowitz; then spewed out large portions of code
14:56 schestowitz; with attribution stripped off intentionally
14:56 martylake; I am describing the task that friend could not accomplish before, and succedded with help of chatbot.
14:56 schestowitz; back late
14:56 psydruid; martylake, would your friend use this code to get the results your friend needed, if this friend had to pay the actual cost of training and running the code?
14:56 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/funny-tax-memes-tweets-5.jpg
14:56 psydruid; is Microsoft even charging what it actually costs?
14:57 schestowitz; back later
14:57 schestowitz; this "Askign for a friend" stuff feels like drive-by time-wasting
14:57 psydruid; it does
14:57 MinceR; when was the last time MICROS~1 could charge a price that covered their costs?
14:57 TR News; Over 100 journalists, lawyers, politicians detained in raids targeting pro-Kurdish groups https://www.bianet.org/english/law/277727-over-100-journalists-lawyers-politicians-detained-in-raids-targeting-pro-kurdish-groups
14:57 TR Bot; Journalists, lawyers, politicians detained across Turkey in raids targeting pro-Kurdish groups - english
14:58 martylake; huh, I dont understand how LLMs can be considered useless for everyone and all use-cases.
14:58 *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights
14:58 martylake; maybe I dont speak proper english.
14:58 psydruid; they don't exist without huge investments that most companies can't make
14:58 psydruid; and then the benefits aren't clear
14:58 *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights
14:58 TR News; AXIOS = MOAR Microsoft spam, same day as Microsoft layoffs https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/ai-chatgpt-blogs-web-writing-training-data
14:58 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/ai-chatgpt-blogs-web-writing-training-data )
14:59 MinceR; there's a leaked LLM and its derivatives already
14:59 martylake; psydruid: cost of training: no one can, its too expensive. Like the cost of writing your own linux kernel for scratch before using a computer.
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:00 martylake; psydruid: cost of running the model: there are leaked LLM that you can run locally, they output 1 or 2 words per second, so less usefull, but still manageable.
15:00 psydruid; that wouldn't be a linux kernel, but something else
15:00 psydruid; leaked by whom? and was this planned?
15:00 TR News; Terrible attack on people's rights. Do not promote this utter junk. https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/reverse-atms-banking-cashless-payments
15:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/reverse-atms-banking-cashless-payments )
15:00 psydruid; is that like stealing?
15:00 psydruid; I don't think that's what should be encouraged
15:00 MinceR; afaik LLaMA was leaked from meta AI
15:01 TR News; Cashless is for the brainless. Look up "sheep".
15:01 psydruid; better to develop it out in the open with a free licence from the very beginning
15:01 psydruid; at least then you know what you are up to
15:01 MinceR; allegedly the accompanying code is free
15:01 MinceR; but, as usual, the model is a black box
15:01 martylake; psydruid: some people are doing that too, see gpt4all
15:01 MinceR; or at least the information stored in its weights is
15:02 schestowitz; let's talk about microsoft layoffs again
15:02 schestowitz; not the chaff
15:02 psydruid; I can't get excited about a chatbot using data from a company called "ClosedAI"
15:02 martylake; psydruid: agreed!
15:02 schestowitz; https://www.businessinsider.com/it-is-easier-to-poach-big-tech-staff-now-says-intuit-ceo-2023-4?r=US&IR=T
15:02 TR Bot; It's Easier to Poach Big Tech Staff Now, Says Intuit CEO
15:03 TR News; "But the company still faces headwinds, as a decline in cloud revenue could spoil the tech giant's quarter." https://www.aol.co.uk/news/trending-tickers-microsoft-alphabet-visa-102831659.html
15:03 TR Bot; Trending tickers: Microsoft | Alphabet | Visa | UBS | Anglo-American
15:04 martylake; so, all those layoffs, hourly rate of developpers went up since forever. Is it time for developers to change job yet?
15:04 TR News; "Microsoft reports its third quarter earnings after the close of trading this Tuesday." https://www.aol.co.uk/news/trending-tickers-microsoft-alphabet-visa-102831659.html there are MOAR Microsoft layoffs this week
15:05 TR News; 3M Lays Off 6,000 https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/04/25/2023-layoff-tracker-3m-lays-off-6000-while-disney-cuts-4000/
15:05 TR Bot; 2023 Layoff Tracker: 3M Lays Off 6,000 While Disney Cuts 4,000
15:06 TR News; VR, HEY HI, meta smart clown clown clown .... AKA "tech" journalism [sic] in 2023
15:07 TR News; oscillator https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/op-amp-contest-go-down-an-octave-no-fft-no-pll-no-oscillator/ | Source: Hackaday
15:07 TR Bot; Amp Contest: Go Down An Octave, No FFT, No PLL, No Oscillator! | Hackaday
15:08 TR News; "Recently, I wrote about the mistake that Neil deGrasse Tyson made by appearing on the podcast of antivaccine leader and influencer Del Bigtree." https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/04/24/antivaxxers-attack-scientific-consensus-as-a-manufactured-construct/ |
15:08 TR Bot; Antivaxxers attack scientific consensus as a "manufactured construct" - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
15:09 martylake; "Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella, who spearheaded the firm's multibillion-dollar investment with ChatGPT-maker OpenAI": is it the root-cause of all those layoffs ? (sorry of naive question)
15:10 schestowitz; i did not quote that
15:10 schestowitz; why did you?
15:10 schestowitz; Nadella is a dumb man dancing to the tune of Creepy Bill and Smith
15:10 schestowitz; i don't mention Nadella
15:10 schestowitz; it's a decoy
15:11 psydruid; Nadella is a puppet while Bill and Smith still pull the strings
15:11 schestowitz; primitive person too
15:11 schestowitz; watch what he said about women
15:11 schestowitz; like some idiot from a villege
15:11 schestowitz; in the middle ages
15:11 schestowitz; *village
15:11 psydruid; fortunatley I don't know him all that well
15:11 schestowitz; at least afaik he did not fly Epstei Airlines
15:11 psydruid; fortunately*
15:11 schestowitz; unlike Creepy Bill
15:12 schestowitz; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
15:12 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
15:12 schestowitz; i spoke to someone from microsoft
15:12 schestowitz; about Microsoft and ICE
15:12 schestowitz; he assured me nadella sent an emaiol
15:12 schestowitz; to say it's OK
15:12 schestowitz; he is indian
15:12 schestowitz; so it's OK
15:12 schestowitz; and he sent message to all the employees
15:12 schestowitz; Microsoft racism is OK
15:13 schestowitz; Microsoft imperial, is OK
15:13 schestowitz; according to a "real" indian
15:13 schestowitz; controlled by other people
15:13 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
15:13 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
15:13 schestowitz; "http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/"
15:13 schestowitz; "http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/"
15:13 schestowitz; "
15:13 schestowitz; While the CEO position has changed hands several times, Brad Smiths role in the company has only increased exponentially and is to the point where he is both wearing the pants and leading the dance while Satya is wearing the skirt and doing what hes told. "
15:13 schestowitz; firefox stack defective
15:13 schestowitz; since ages ago
15:14 schestowitz; maybe one day firefox will regain clipboard compatibiliry
15:14 schestowitz; maybe baker will write the patches
15:14 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/
15:14 TR Bot; People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights
15:14 schestowitz; if microsoft added india to the ban
15:14 schestowitz; nadella will write to 150k "MSFT" salary receivers
15:14 schestowitz; and insist it's OK
15:14 schestowitz; and totally not racist
15:15 schestowitz; now they run puff pieces about him
15:15 schestowitz; being "humble"
15:15 schestowitz; 3.5 million dollar house
15:15 schestowitz; they try to demonise the gulag CEO
15:15 schestowitz; and never mind shares they hold
15:15 schestowitz; it's a smear campaign
15:15 schestowitz; poor little satya
15:15 schestowitz; with his home wine cellar and a home theatre
15:15 schestowitz; evil pichai
15:15 schestowitz; greedy gulag!!
15:15 schestowitz; be most like bill
15:15 schestowitz; borrow a friend's plane
15:16 schestowitz; save the world
15:16 schestowitz; don't pollute
15:16 schestowitz; share a plane with underage girld
15:16 schestowitz; while your otherr 4 aircrafts park somewhere
15:16 schestowitz; (bill gates
15:16 martylake; schestowitz: " why did you?" that quote has nothing to do with teh previous discussion.
15:16 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/melinda-sickened-by-bill/
15:16 TR Bot; According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gatess Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony Scandal) | Techrights
15:18 TR News; "A rite of passage in decades past for the electronics experimenter was the crystal radio." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/half-crystal-radio-half-regenerative-radio/ | Source: Hackaday
15:18 TR Bot; Crystal Radio, Half Regenerative Radio | Hackaday
15:18 TR News; "If one is serious about testing the stiffness of materials or parts" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/testing-part-stiffness-no-need-to-re-invent-the-bending-rig/ | Source: Hackaday
15:18 TR Bot; Part Stiffness? No Need To Re-invent The Bending Rig | Hackaday
15:19 TR News; "The DEA has always been ridiculous when it comes to drugs." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/deas-fentanyl-narrative-clown-car-being-overseen-by-a-reformer-who-replaced-old-corruption-with-her-own-brand-of-corruption/ | Source: Techdirt
15:19 TR Bot; Fentanyl Narrative Clown Car Being Overseen By A Reformer Who Replaced Old Corruption With Her Own Brand Of Corruption | Techdirt
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; techdirt may be missing the point that those games are sometimes funded by the army, get used to make war looks like fun and games, then recruit https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/red-cross-continues-to-want-to-pretend-that-video-game-wars-are-irl-wars/ | Source: Techdirt
15:20 TR Bot; Cross Continues To Want To Pretend That Video Game Wars Are IRL Wars | Techdirt
15:21 psydruid; schestowitz, I'm getting the idea we have another troll on our hands, one that portrays itself as "more benign
15:21 psydruid; the topc keeps coming back to chaffbots
15:21 schestowitz; yes, it's a tactic
15:21 psydruid; topic*
15:21 schestowitz; hence I dais back later
15:21 schestowitz; politely
15:21 schestowitz; *said
15:22 schestowitz; it's like an anglican yuhong
15:23 TR News; Pooh's online army and offline army worldwide https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/us-located-chinese-cop-shops-allegedly-targeted-people-for-comparing-president-xi-to-winnie-the-pooh/ | Source: Techdirt
15:23 TR Bot; Chinese Cop Shops Allegedly Targeted People For Comparing President Xi To Winnie The Pooh | Techdirt
15:24 TR News; KOSA and EARN IT https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/senator-durbins-stop-csam-act-has-some-good-ideas-mixed-in-with-some-bad-ideas/ | Source: Techdirt
15:24 TR Bot; Durbins STOP CSAM Act Has Some Good Ideas Mixed In With Some Very Bad Ideas That Will Do More Harm Than Good | Techdirt
15:25 TR News; union-busting https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/workers-fighting-union-busting-may-have-a-new-legal-tool-at-their-disposal/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:25 TR Bot; Fighting Union-Busting May Have a New Legal Tool at Their Disposal - scheerpost.com
15:26 martylake; well, you have been trolled quite hard lately it seems, so its understandable that my questions appear as trolling too.
15:26 martylake; anyway, have a good day!
15:30 psydruid; goodbye troll!
15:30 schestowitz; come back with another sock?
15:31 schestowitz; or target a more gullible news site?
15:31 TR News; "EARN IT" https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/the-earn-it-bill-is-back-seeking-to-scan-our-messages-and-photos/ | Source: Scheerpost
15:31 TR Bot; EARN IT Bill Is Back, Seeking To Scan Our Messages and Photos - scheerpost.com
15:32 TR News; Weapons of secrecy? https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/new-york-court-rules-state-police-cant-keep-hiding-its-misconduct-records-from-the-public/ | Source: Techdirt
15:32 TR Bot; York Court Rules State Police Cant Keep Hiding Its Misconduct Records From The Public | Techdirt
15:33 psydruid; don't forget to bring yuhong and matlock with you next time
15:33 TR News; "key reason Elon Musk said he was getting rid of the legacy Twitter " https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/elon-seems-to-think-the-cruelest-thing-he-can-do-to-people-is-to-pretend-they-want-to-associate-with-him/ | Source: Techdirt
15:33 TR Bot; Seems To Think The Cruelest Thing He Can Do To People Is To Pretend They Want To Associate With Him | Techdirt
15:34 schestowitz; who was matlock?
15:34 schestowitz; it rings a bell
15:34 psydruid; hayden barnes
15:34 schestowitz; the WSL guy had several nyms
15:34 schestowitz; ah, it's another one of his nyms
15:34 schestowitz; he used 4 or 5 nyms
15:34 schestowitz; but never his real one
15:34 psydruid; I don't know which other ones he had
15:34 schestowitz; i cannot remember eithe
15:35 schestowitz; rand it does not matter
15:35 psydruid; I just remember destroying him in this chat
15:35 schestowitz; gonna look even harder at what they try to distract FROM
15:35 schestowitz; https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/economy/arid-41123761.html
15:35 TR Bot; Big Tech results to test whether layoffs is passing phase or indicator of recession
15:36 schestowitz; they lump them all together
15:36 schestowitz; which is unhelpful imho
15:36 schestowitz; GAFAM
15:36 schestowitz; aka MAGMA
15:36 schestowitz; "meta"
15:36 psydruid; they're coordinating with the x86 hardware people
15:37 TR News; "My Heart Goes Out To...": Meta Employee Writes Heartfelt Note On Getting Sacked https://www.ndtv.com/feature/facebook-my-heart-goes-out-to-meta-employee-writes-heartfelt-note-on-getting-sacked-3978225
15:37 TR Bot; Facebook - "My Heart Goes Out To...": Meta Employee Writes Heartfelt Note On Getting Sacked
15:37 psydruid; who are gaslighting people with "facts" about the rising cost of resources
15:37 psydruid; right from Microsoft's playbook
15:38 psydruid; https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-and-Intel-motherboard-prices-skyrocket-past-surging-inflation-rates-thanks-to-35-40-ASP-increases.704029.0.html
15:38 TR Bot; and Intel motherboard prices skyrocket past surging inflation rates thanks to 35-40% ASP increases - NotebookCheck.net News
15:38 TR News; LOOK OVA' THERE!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI IT"SSSSSSSSSS AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZING https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/04/25/tech-investors-focus-on-profits-after-layoffs-companies-to-highlight-ai/
15:38 TR Bot; Tech investors focus on profits after layoffs; companies to highlight AI | Cyprus Mail
15:38 psydruid; past inflation rates
15:38 psydruid; only have 3% margins
15:39 psydruid; welp, better get out of that business then
15:39 schestowitz; TESLA down 10% in ONE DAY
15:39 schestowitz; MSFT will collapse too
15:39 schestowitz; it's trying to buy time
15:39 psydruid; but that's not what the hardware troll wanted to hear
15:39 schestowitz; before the breakdown
15:40 psydruid; instead insisting on "educating" people about the fully valid reasons for increasing prices
15:40 psydruid; x86 hardware OEMs will collapse in the wake of Microsoft's collapse too
15:42 schestowitz; that can happen soon
15:42 schestowitz; tryint toi find what MSFT is trying to distract FROM
15:42 schestowitz; still looking
15:42 schestowitz; yesterday it was aazure layoffs
15:42 schestowitz; ainc. complete shutdown of a whole teamn
15:42 schestowitz; only ONE source covered this
15:42 schestowitz; amazing that no other publisher even bothered
15:43 schestowitz; if nobody reports it, does it ever "happen"?
15:43 psydruid; I don't think you'll see anything about it in the media
15:43 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/
15:43 TR Bot; Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights
15:43 psydruid; it will just be like "Microsoft is gone, but life goes on"
15:43 schestowitz; almost nobody covered how github had TWO waves of layoffs
15:43 schestowitz; so far this year
15:43 schestowitz; maybe there was a third
15:43 psydruid; and then they'll latch onto the next thing
15:43 schestowitz; but nobody reported it
15:43 schestowitz; media blackout
15:43 schestowitz; media denyout
15:43 psydruid; Indian sources?
15:43 schestowitz; one
15:44 schestowitz; iirc, they broke that news
15:44 psydruid; I think you'll see that increasingly US media won't report on things
15:44 psydruid; it's an incestuous relationship they have with their sponsors/investors
15:45 schestowitz; https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/stocks-lower-first-republic-microsoft-google-general-electric
15:45 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/stocks-lower-first-republic-microsoft-google-general-electric )
15:45 psydruid; so they may as well be considered useless
15:45 schestowitz; microsoft needs shareholders' money
15:45 schestowitz; inc. pensioners'
15:45 schestowitz; with money tired to MSFT crime
15:45 schestowitz; so they can keep losing OTHER people's money
15:45 schestowitz; with crap like "HEY HI"
15:45 schestowitz; and bribing the media, officials etc.
15:46 *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
15:46 psydruid; that's why I advocate pulling the plug fast
15:46 TR News; broadband https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/dumb-state-laws-blocking-community-broadband-could-mar-historic-subsidy-efforts/ | Source: Techdirt
15:46 TR Bot; State Laws Blocking Community Broadband Could Mar Historic Subsidy Efforts | Techdirt
15:46 *prurigro has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
15:47 TR News; The Layoffs at Red Hat Validate What Weve Said for Years About IBMs Hostility http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/in-retrospect-ibmhat/
15:47 TR Bot; The Layoffs at Red Hat Validate What Weve Said for Years About IBMs Hostility | Techrights
15:47 psydruid; the longer they can prolong this, the more industries they'll try to get into, infect and destroy
15:47 TR News; One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/
15:47 TR Bot; One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto | Techrights
15:47 TR News; The Clown Computing and AI Bubble http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/the-clown-computing-and-ai-bubble/
15:47 TR Bot; The Clown Computing and AI Bubble | Techrights
15:47 schestowitz; they identify critics
15:47 schestowitz; single them out
15:47 schestowitz; and attack
15:48 psydruid; like they attacked you and me
15:48 schestowitz; example:
15:48 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/
15:48 TR Bot; Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights
15:48 schestowitz; they automate this, too
15:48 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_PR_Agencies
15:48 TR Bot; Microsoft PR Agencies - Techrights
15:48 schestowitz; look under http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies
15:48 TR Bot; Visible Technologies - Techrights
15:48 schestowitz; it's how Microsoft selects "atargets"
15:48 schestowitz; people who say "undesirable" (to Microsoft) things
15:48 TR News; Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/
15:49 TR Bot; Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux | Techrights
15:49 TR News; Linux Foundation Formally Selling SPAM Services in Violation of Terms of Services http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/lf-lecturing-us-while/
15:49 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Formally Selling SPAM Services in Violation of Terms of Services | Techrights
15:49 psydruid; repurposing old hardware with free software should be encouraged more again
15:49 schestowitz; they can also send thugs like gulagboy
15:49 schestowitz; to harass people, projects, orgs
15:49 psydruid; even if it's Microsoft Surface
15:49 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/funny-tax-memes-tweets-26.jpg
15:49 *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights
15:49 schestowitz; while sliding microsoft code
15:49 schestowitz; and calling that "security"
15:49 TR News; Sean OBrien and Mikalai Birokou on Least Authority Services via Free Software http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/least-authority-services-via-free-software/
15:50 TR Bot; Sean OBrien and Mikalai Birokou on Least Authority Services via Free Software | Techrights
15:50 psydruid; gulagboy sides with Microsoft over the real free software community
15:50 schestowitz; opposing nsa and microsoft back doors is "transphobic"
15:50 psydruid; why he was ever in the FSF, I don't know
15:50 TR News; In the Worlds Biggest Population, Microsofts Bing Fell Below 1%, Down Sharply Since ChatGPT First Announced http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/chatgpt-failure/
15:50 TR Bot; In the Worlds Biggest Population, Microsofts Bing Fell Below 1%, Down Sharply Since ChatGPT First Announced | Techrights
15:50 schestowitz; psydruid: it's called infilltration
15:50 psydruid; that's like a mole right in the heart of the enemy's base
15:50 schestowitz; and it can be facilitated with ourside forces/money
15:50 schestowitz; so the outsider becomes insider
15:51 schestowitz; it's called "campaign contribution" in USA
15:51 psydruid; you remove the tumor and recover
15:51 schestowitz; or "lbbying"
15:51 schestowitz; how corporations put their people inside Senate, Congress, High office
15:51 schestowitz; even Supreme Court
15:51 schestowitz; they tild the scale
15:51 schestowitz; *tilt
15:51 TR News; Aggressive Microsoft Marketing/Lies as Bing Falls Closer to 2% Market Share, Google Gains More Share (ChatGPT Has Only Harmed Bing, Which Has Layoffs Too) http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/chatgpt-has-only-harmed-bing/
15:51 TR Bot; Aggressive Microsoft Marketing/Lies as Bing Falls Closer to 2% Market Share, Google Gains More Share (ChatGPT Has Only Harmed Bing, Which Has Layoffs Too) | Techrights
15:52 schestowitz; spy agencies do the same
15:52 schestowitz; they groom foreign people
15:52 schestowitz; to enter a government
15:52 schestowitz; and then work for them from the inside
15:52 *prurigro (~prurigro@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights
15:52 schestowitz; usa and russia do this a lot
15:52 schestowitz; see what moldova deals with this year
15:53 schestowitz; "Working behind the scenes to orchestrate "independent" praise of our technology, and damnation of the enemy's, is a key evangelism function during the Slog. "Independent" analyst's report should be issued, praising your technology and damning the competitors (or ignoring them). "Independent" consultants should write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up
15:53 schestowitz; as experts in the new technology, available for just $200/hour). "Independent" academic sources should be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). "Independent" courseware providers should start profiting from their early involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage should be sought and turned to our advantage."
15:53 schestowitz; -Microsoft, internal document
15:53 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf
15:53 TR News; The Microsoft Spin Machine Resumes Amid Layoffs, Azures Decline, and Worse News http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/microsoft-spin-machine-hey-hi/
15:53 TR Bot; The Microsoft Spin Machine Resumes Amid Layoffs, Azures Decline, and Worse News | Techrights
15:53 TR News; LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/boeing-737-max-aircraft/
15:53 TR Bot; LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths | Techrights
15:53 schestowitz; pay gartner et al
15:53 schestowitz; to make "clown" seem trendy
15:53 schestowitz; and they "hey hi"
15:54 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
15:54 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
15:54 schestowitz; gartner also lobbies officials
15:54 schestowitz; for microsoft
15:55 TR News; Press Report This Morning: Microsoft Azure Layoffs Again, Entire Team Laid Off (Updated) http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/wiki-layoffs-nz/
15:55 TR Bot; Press Report This Morning: Microsoft Azure Layoffs Again, Entire Team Laid Off (Updated) | Techrights
15:56 TR News; People Are Getting Laid Off https://www.manufacturing.net/operations/news/22847192/people-are-getting-laid-off "continue to piggyback on each other, with Microsoft"
15:56 TR Bot; Are Getting Laid Off | Manufacturing.net
15:57 TR News; AZURE HAD MORE LAYOFFS THIS WEEK! "Microsoft: Wall Street is going to zero in on what the software giant has to say about its Azure clown business" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4596228-wall-street-breakfast-big-week-big-tech
15:57 TR Bot; Wall Street Breakfast: Big Week, Big Tech | Seeking Alpha
15:58 TR News; Ocado closes centre as grocery inflation dips https://www.cmcmarkets.com/en-gb/opto/ocado-closes-centre-as-grocery-inflation-dips
15:58 TR Bot; Ocado closes centre as grocery inflation dips
15:59 TR News; Precedential No. 13: TTAB Allows Cancellation Respondent to Correct Registration Ownership http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/04/precedential-no-13-ttab-allows.html
15:59 TR Bot; The TTABlog: Precedential No. 13: TTAB Allows Cancellation Respondent to Correct Registration Ownership
16:00 TR News; amazon https://www.commondreams.org/news/amazon-drivers-teamsters-union-california | Source: Common Dreams
16:00 TR Bot; 'Historic Victory': Amazon Contractor Delivery Drivers Join Teamsters
16:11 psydruid; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-chatbot-crackdown-microsoft-co-201820752.html?.tsrc=rss&guccounter=1
16:11 TR Bot; AI Chatbot Crackdown: Microsoft & Co. Face Regulatory Heat In Europe as ChatGPT Reignites Debate
16:12 psydruid; they should be fined and forbidden
16:13 TR News; "The blue state could become the 20th in the U.S. to enact a so-called critical infrastructure law." https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/a-new-bill-in-oregon-could-target-environmental-protesters-as-terrorists/ | Source: Scheerpost
16:13 TR Bot; New Bill in Oregon Could Target Environmental Protesters as Terrorists - scheerpost.com
16:14 psydruid; https://ts2.space/en/italy-becomes-first-western-country-to-block-chatgpt-over-privacy-concerns/
16:14 TR Bot; Italy Becomes First Western Country to Block ChatGPT Over Privacy Concerns TS2 SPACE
16:14 schestowitz; psydruid: bribe em some more?
16:15 psydruid; schestowitz, bribes are always welcome
16:15 psydruid; it used be developers developers developers
16:15 psydruid; these days it's all about bribes bribes bribes
16:17 TR News; CLASS ACTION against MSFT. "The amended complaint against Microsoft includes new comparisons and metrics for judging the BlackRock funds, but these changes arent enough to state a viable claim for fiduciary imprudence under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, the court said." https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/microsoft-again-beats-challenge-to-401k-plans-blackrock-funds
16:17 TR Bot; Microsoft Again Beats Challenge to 401(k) Plans BlackRock Funds
16:18 MinceR; it was always all about litigation, corruption and cult-building
16:18 MinceR; maybe the cult-building started with a little delay, after the cult leaders realized what crApple was doing
16:19 TR News; (NEW): Next Version of Leap Micro Reaches Release Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Next_Version_of_Leap_Micro_Reaches_Release_Candidate.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Next_Version_of_Leap_Micro_Reaches_Release_Candidate.gmi
16:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Next Version of Leap Micro Reaches Release Candidate
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:20 TR News; (NEW): cURL Fed Up With Microsoft, Microsoft Attacks Some More Free Software Projects (and the Internet), Microsoft 360 Down Again http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/cURL_Fed_Up_With_Microsoft_Microsoft_Attacks_Some_More_Free_Sof.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/cURL_Fed_Up_With_Microsoft_Microsoft_Attacks_Some_More_Free_Sof.gmi
16:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines cURL Fed Up With Microsoft, Microsoft Attacks Some More Free Software Projects (and the Internet), Microsoft 360 Down Again
16:21 schestowitz; warn?
16:21 schestowitz; close?
16:22 schestowitz; no cigar?
16:22 schestowitz; will keep checking
16:22 schestowitz; martylake: are've gone quiet
16:22 schestowitz; help us out here..
16:22 *schestowitz checks for weat marks
16:22 schestowitz; *sweat
16:25 psydruid; martylake will be back soon
16:25 psydruid; but reporting to Nadella is more important now
16:27 schestowitz; they doin't work for microsoft typically
16:27 schestowitz; not directyly
16:28 schestowitz; the briefings come from pr firms
16:28 schestowitz; that microsoft lists as official pr contacts
16:28 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_PR_Agencies
16:28 TR Bot; Microsoft PR Agencies - Techrights
16:28 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Edelman
16:28 TR Bot; Edelman - Techrights
16:28 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies
16:28 TR Bot; Visible Technologies - Techrights
16:28 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies
16:29 psydruid; the goal is the same
16:30 psydruid; the information must go back to the mothership
16:30 psydruid; he's gone silent because he's been found out
16:30 TR News; Lisa Abramowicz a new Microsoft "asset" in Bloomberd "media"? Preparing the investors for the collapse by diverting attention to vapourware? One hour ago (headline): "Perhaps ChatGPT Will Make Us All Rich and Efficient: Surveillance". HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI "Will Make Us All Rich and Efficient"
16:31 TR News; So how much budget did Microsoft set aside/allocate for today's trolling, spam and propaganda (bribed "media")? Bad results due soon. DO NOT MIND THE CLOWN COZ HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI!
16:32 TR News; There are laws against lying to shareholders, but not against bribing the media to lie to shareholders. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI!
16:33 TR News; Python https://opensource.com/article/23/4/retry-your-python-code-until-it-fails | Source: OpenSource.com
16:33 TR Bot; your Python code until it fails | Opensource.com
16:33 TR News; Tcl/Tk https://opensource.com/article/23/4/learn-tcltk-wish-simple-game | Source: OpenSource.com
16:33 TR Bot; Tcl/Tk and Wish with this simple game | Opensource.com
16:33 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
16:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:35 schestowitz; <martylake> This chan has so many articles per day. How do you keep up ?
16:35 schestowitz; "your channel is on topic and there are many articles my boss does not like"
16:35 schestowitz; "How can I slow y'all down?"
16:36 TR News; Wall Street down sharply ahead of MSFT results (we already got told Azure is going down he toilet) https://www.reuters.com/markets/global-markets-wrapup-1-2023-04-25/
16:36 TR Bot; St dips, dollar gains on mixed earnings, economic worries | Reuters
16:38 TR News; ""Investors are holding their breath for the earnings reports from Alphabet and Microsoft later in the day, and theyre worried that they may be disappointed," Stovall added." https://www.reuters.com/markets/global-markets-wrapup-1-2023-04-25/
16:39 psydruid; martylake, are you all-right, buddy?
16:39 psydruid; we don't have to call an ambulance, do we?
16:39 schestowitz; martylake: I need to tell you something
16:39 schestowitz; it's important
16:40 schestowitz; it's abour your family
16:40 TR News; SCOTUS, Inc. https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/supreme-court-fights-future | Source: Common Dreams
16:40 TR Bot; Opinion | Grandpa, Tell Me About the Time the Supreme Court Picked a Fight With the Future | Common Dreams
16:41 TR News; EFF: The F stands for "trans" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/california-bill-stop-dragnet-surveillance-people-seeking-reproductive-and-gender | Source: EFF
16:41 TR Bot; California Bill to Stop Dragnet Surveillance of People Seeking Reproductive and Gender-Affirming Care Passes Key Committees | Electronic Frontier Foundation
16:42 TR News; EFF: we do advocacy, but Barlow was wrong and we got rid of the other co-founder. He stood in our way. http://techrights.org/2023/04/19/framing-privacy-as-sex-issue/
16:42 TR Bot; EFF Takes Money From US Nazis to Speak for Prostitutes and Frame Privacy (or Net Liability) as a Sex Issue | Techrights
16:44 TR News; "automated content moderation tools"... or EFF for Islam (in this context) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/eff-and-ecnls-comment-meta-oversight-board-term-shaheed | Source: EFF
16:44 TR Bot; EFF and ECNL's Comment to the Meta Oversight Board on the Term 'Shaheed' | Electronic Frontier Foundation
16:44 TR News; "founder of the anti-corruption project Gulagu.net" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/former-wagner-group-commander-who-described-killing-children-in-ukraine-brought-in-for-questioning-in-saratov | Source: Meduza
16:44 TR Bot; Former Wagner Group commander, who described killing children in Ukraine, brought in for questioning in Saratov Meduza
16:45 TR News; Polina Barskova https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/24/does-that-make-me-charon | Source: Meduza
16:45 TR Bot; Does that make me Charon? In her fiction, Polina Barskova is determined to see through the endless shimmer of untruths, half-truths, and pseudo-truths. Anna Razumnaya reviews her new book. Meduza
16:45 TR News; lavrov https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/300-former-foreign-correspondents-in-moscow-demand-lavrov-release-evan-gershkovich | Source: Meduza
16:45 TR Bot; 300 former foreign correspondents in Moscow demand Lavrov release Evan Gershkovich Meduza
16:46 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/17/funny-parenting-tweets-james-breakwell/
16:46 TR Bot; Dad Documents The Funniest Conversations He Has With His Daughters (40 Tweets)
16:52 TR News; Shell got (bought) a seat there, offered by Koch and Trump a few years ago https://www.commondreams.org/news/supreme-court-fossil-fuels-climate | Source: Common Dreams
16:52 TR Bot; US Supreme Court's Blow to Big Oil 'Should Open the Floodgates for More Lawsuits'
16:53 TR News; Well, the economy is FINE. Providers you are in the business of KILLING people, legally. https://www.commondreams.org/news/global-military-spending | Source: Common Dreams
16:53 TR Bot; Global Military Spending Hits All-Time High of $2.24 Trillion: Analysis
16:55 TR News; WOW! "Trading sideways" is new euphemism for "COLLAPSING..." in this .... "slowing growth" economy https://www.investing.com/analysis/indexes-trade-sideways-ahead-of-big-tech-earnings-200637535
16:55 TR Bot; Trade Sideways Ahead of Big Tech Earnings | Investing.com
16:55 TR News; So pundits already note Microsoft's results will suck. LOOK OVA' THERE! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI
16:56 TR News; HEY HI is so young that even Bill Gates might want to look at it beneath the skirt
16:56 TR News; unconstitutional https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/first-us-appellate-court-decide-finds-geofence-warrant-unconstitutional | Source: EFF
16:57 TR Bot; First Appellate Court Finds Geofence Warrant Unconstitutional | Electronic Frontier Foundation
16:57 TR News; EFF, funded by some of the world's most aggressive DMCA abusers :/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/dmca-cannot-save-you-your-own-words | Source: EFF
16:57 TR Bot; The DMCA Cannot Protect You From Your Own Words | Electronic Frontier Foundation
16:58 TR News; "A new bill on taxing remote workers has been submitted for consideration by Russias State Duma." https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/state-duma-to-consider-bill-on-30-percent-income-tax-withholding-for-russians-working-from-abroad | Source: Meduza
16:58 TR Bot; State Duma to consider bill on 30-percent income tax withholding for Russians working from abroad Meduza
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:00 TR News; EFF meanwhile promotes back-doored messaging disservices while shilling Microsoft spyware to people, calling it "privacy" (EFF spreads FUD against real solutions) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/your-messaging-service-should-not-be-dea-informant | Source: EFF
17:00 TR Bot; Your Messaging Service Should Not Be a DEA Informant | Electronic Frontier Foundation
17:01 TR News; Pro Publica, bribed by the most militant anti-education fanatic in the world (Bill Gates, never even finished college), writing about schools again https://www.propublica.org/article/washington-private-special-educatino-schools-oversight
17:01 TR Bot; Washington State Legislature Strengthens Oversight of Private Special Education Schools ProPublica
17:02 TR News; Fake "populism"... must be the gulagboy type https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/zombie-populism/ | Source: The Nation
17:02 TR Bot; The Zombie Populism of Today's GOP | The Nation
17:03 TR News; Why work for (or buy from) Amazon? https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/labor-union-amazon-organizing/ | Source: The Nation
17:03 TR Bot; There Is No Future for a Labor Movement That Fails to Organize at Amazon | The Nation
17:08 psydruid; RIP martylake
17:09 schestowitz; preoduct recalled
17:19 TR News; Microsoft, Based in Redmond, is Exiting Redmond Amid Layoffs and Other Troubles | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/
17:19 TR Bot; Microsoft, Based in Redmond, is Exiting Redmond Amid Layoffs and Other Troubles | Techrights
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 schestowitz; martylake: I need to tell you something urgently
17:20 schestowitz; are you about?
17:20 schestowitz; this is urgent
17:20 schestowitz; hello?
17:20 martylake; martylake: sure?
17:20 schestowitz; did you see the above?
17:20 schestowitz; what are your thoughts?
17:21 martylake; not yet.
17:21 schestowitz; why woluld they shut down part opf redmond?
17:21 schestowitz; LLMs are "useful"
17:22 TR News; Freedom https://www.thenation.com/article/world/horn-of-africa-athlete-refugees/ | Source: The Nation
17:22 TR Bot; One Runner's Journey to Freedom | The Nation
17:22 martylake; schestowitz: so many articles, are you referring to one in particular?
17:22 TR News; "Martinez, now 64, had fled days before, one of 15,000 people ordered to leave as the fire spread." The sponsor of Pro Publica, Bill Gates, profits from fires. https://www.propublica.org/article/new-mexico-hermits-peak-calf-canyon-fema-housing | Source: Pro Publica
17:22 TR Bot; The Federal Government Accidentally Burned Down Their Houses, Then Made It Hard to Come Home ProPublica
17:23 schestowitz; martylake: http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/
17:23 schestowitz; it sounds like LLMs are not so useful
17:23 schestowitz; if they were, this would not happen
17:23 martylake; thanks
17:23 schestowitz; this is the nervous system of the company
17:23 schestowitz; sounds like they prepare for very major downsizing
17:23 schestowitz; if this is done in redmond
17:23 schestowitz; and 3k layoffs in 3 months in seattle
17:23 schestowitz; looks like they're collapsing but try to deny it
17:25 martylake; I see, when I meant useful, it was one annecdotical evidence, and you mean useful as in generating enough income to sustain investors?
17:25 schestowitz; don't worry, the chaffbots can run the company
17:25 schestowitz; surely
17:25 martylake; haha
17:25 schestowitz; martylake: ok, so they are f*ed
17:25 schestowitz; wasting billions of energy bills etc.
17:26 schestowitz; while having nothing to show for it
17:26 schestowitz; bing is also collapsing
17:26 schestowitz; in spite of all this LLM hype
17:26 schestowitz; they basically capitulated
17:26 schestowitz; Gulag Search won
17:26 schestowitz; so they throw bing under the rug
17:26 schestowitz; and say,
17:26 schestowitz; look, LLM!
17:26 schestowitz; "useful!"
17:26 schestowitz; people sometimes try this and go,
17:26 schestowitz; "hmm... not so useful"
17:26 martylake; it was whole-in for LLM but didnt work in the end?
17:27 schestowitz; nope
17:27 schestowitz; it distrracted from the layoffs
17:27 schestowitz; months and months of layoffs
17:27 schestowitz; all around thr world
17:27 schestowitz; maybe 30k?
17:27 schestowitz; maybe only 20k?
17:27 schestowitz; more coming in July
17:27 schestowitz; 93% of the office in redmond vacated?
17:27 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/arkus83/art/Soushka-904307297
17:27 TR Bot; by Arkus83 on DeviantArt
17:28 schestowitz; see 4th paraagraph in the article
17:28 martylake; how "great" is this great reset going to be?
17:28 schestowitz; they are basically acting like they're shuttinfg down in redmondd
17:28 martylake; and stunt llm pr to keep actions afloat
17:30 martylake; thanks for clarification, I appreciate it!
17:30 schestowitz; Brushed Under a Rug Today? Microsoft Exiting Redmond (93% of the Office Space Offloaded)
17:30 schestowitz; martylake: did you know about this?
17:30 schestowitz; all the news is like RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS
17:30 martylake; schestowitz: not at all
17:30 schestowitz; and HEY HI HEY HIHEY HIHEY HIHEY HI\
17:30 martylake; I just learned reading your link
17:31 martylake; but this chan has so many links, I cannot keep up
17:33 martylake; another thing I dont understand, is the fear-porn that "ai experts" are agitating about soon to be released AGI that will kill humanity. I mean, you can get 5 mins of glory and likes, but it doesnt fit to this general RESULTS RESULTS scheme to me
17:36 schestowitz; updatinh post
17:36 schestowitz; with more info
17:36 schestowitz; martylake: thanks for the tip
17:36 schestowitz; and for bringing this to our attention
17:36 schestowitz; martylake: , this has NOTHING to do with "AGI"
17:36 schestowitz; we keep on topic
17:37 schestowitz; it's anything but all that "HEY HI" stuff
17:37 schestowitz; the signal is the collapse of the real business
17:37 schestowitz; rather than vapourwar
17:42 TR News; Because COVID is over. OBVIOUSLY! https://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/washingtons-covid-19-exposure-notification-app-to-end-may-11/
17:42 TR Bot; Washingtons COVID-19 exposure notification app to end May 11 | Redmond Reporter
17:48 martylake; (catching up on previous chat): I went back to work, ha, my employer isnt $crosoft, not indirectly so thats good.
17:48 martylake; but I wonder what is the magnitude of that mode of failure.
17:48 schestowitz; edo you like microsoft at all?
17:48 schestowitz; you use bsd or gnu/linux, right?
17:48 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi
17:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
17:49 schestowitz; martylake: in case you missed some posts
17:49 schestowitz; they are listed above
17:49 martylake; $crosoft have many many contractors, and I suspect if they are laying off 93% of redmont, most of their contractors will be gone.
17:49 schestowitz; just now
17:49 schestowitz; busy news day again
17:49 martylake; schestowitz: thanks.
17:49 schestowitz; no, reddmond is not the contractors
17:49 schestowitz; contractors are companies like infosys
17:49 schestowitz; managing their infra from india
17:49 schestowitz; redmond is their very core
17:49 martylake; this is what I meant, but english is not my main language so it went out poorly.
17:49 schestowitz; and some bing people are moved there
17:49 schestowitz; exiting bellevue
17:50 schestowitz; https://www.seroundtable.com/photos/bing-team-moves-back-to-redmond-35278.html
17:50 TR Bot; Bing Team Moves Back To Redmond From Bellevue After 13 Years
17:50 schestowitz; essential context:
17:50 martylake; yeah. so companies like infosys will surely be impacted.
17:50 schestowitz; LOADS of bing layoffs this year
17:50 schestowitz; maybe they allocate them a tiny office space
17:50 schestowitz; to keep it running till it dies
17:50 schestowitz; bing market share has collapsed in recent months
17:50 schestowitz; but they want to keep those lights on
17:50 schestowitz; and the brand
17:50 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Bing_Reality_Log#2023
17:50 TR Bot; Bing Reality Log - Techrights
17:51 schestowitz; martylake: the contractors
17:51 schestowitz; the temps
17:51 schestowitz; the perms
17:51 schestowitz; lots of perms
17:51 schestowitz; perms: http://techrights.org/2023/03/29/microsoft-seattle-layoffs/
17:51 TR Bot; In One City Alone Microsoft Fired Almost 3,000 Workers This Year (Were Still in March) | Techrights
17:51 schestowitz; not contractors!
17:51 schestowitz; they do not even count the contractors!
17:51 schestowitz; those 3k people are not contractors
17:52 martylake; DuckDuckGo is Bing ?! (catching up http://techrights.org/2023/02/10/bing-falls/ )
17:52 TR Bot; This Month, Microsoft Bing and Its Fake Privacy (Proxy) DuckDuckGo Fall to Lowest Share in Over a Year! | Techrights
17:52 schestowitz; seems like a company shuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic
17:52 schestowitz; and shouting HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI from the deck
17:52 martylake; I am being redpilled at a speed I am not ready.
17:52 schestowitz; "it's ok, shareholders, stay onboard"
17:52 schestowitz; "we'll get this ship running again soon
17:52 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
17:52 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
17:53 schestowitz; short story: they have a microsoft nda
17:53 schestowitz; they report to micropsoft
17:53 schestowitz; hosted by microsoft
17:53 schestowitz; taking search results from bing
17:53 schestowitz; and refuse to talk about why they pass data to microsoft
17:53 schestowitz; aside from being hosted on it
17:53 schestowitz; they also use microtosft for comms
17:53 *martylake s head is exploding
17:53 schestowitz; it's basically a scam
17:53 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/
17:53 TR Bot; Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights
17:53 schestowitz; summary ^&
17:54 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/
17:54 TR Bot; Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights
17:54 schestowitz; more detailed version
17:54 schestowitz; biab
17:55 TR News; Libraries https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/libraries-don-t-want-book-bans | Source: Common Dreams
17:55 TR Bot; Opinion | Small Town Libraries Don't Want Imported Book Bans | Common Dreams
17:58 martylake; great.
17:58 *martylake tries to stay calm.
17:58 schestowitz; did you use ikt?
17:58 schestowitz; *it
17:59 martylake; of course I did, trusted the whole thing for years.
17:59 schestowitz; i said for 12 years already it was a microsoft front
17:59 martylake; got PR pranked.
17:59 schestowitz; people ignored the evidence
17:59 martylake; shit.
17:59 TR News; Mexico https://www.commondreams.org/news/migrants-march-mexico | Source: Common Dreams
17:59 TR Bot; 3,000 Migrants March Through Mexico to Protest Detention Centers After Deadly Fire
17:59 martylake; schestowitz: I only discovered your website a few days ago, looking for cool IRC networks to idle.
17:59 schestowitz; ddg market share collapsed last year
18:00 schestowitz; as their NDA with Microsoft became very widespread knowledge
18:00 schestowitz; months ago I saw DDG billboards
18:00 schestowitz; in BUS STOPS
18:00 schestowitz; who PAID for this?
18:01 schestowitz; a US company
18:01 schestowitz; with a tiny office in the US?
18:01 schestowitz; without staff in it?
18:01 schestowitz; they lacka business model
18:01 schestowitz; so you know who funds them
18:01 schestowitz; their webhost
18:01 schestowitz; microsoft
18:02 TR News; publishers too https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/french-publisher-moret-detained-uk/ | Source: The Nation
18:02 TR Bot; What the UKs Arrest of a French Publisher Means for Public Intellectuals the World Over | The Nation
18:04 TR News; "At the start of Milton Wexlers career as a psychoanalyst" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/analyst-memoir-alice-wexler/ | Source: The Nation
18:04 TR Bot; Whats Life Like for the Child of a Psychoanalyst? | The Nation
18:06 martylake; schestowitz: which search engine do you recommend ?
18:06 martylake; you mentionned searx before ?
18:06 schestowitz; none in particular, but i use searx mostly
18:06 schestowitz; depends on which instance
18:07 TR News; Dabbling in Dart gemini://clanmorgan.org/gemlog/2023-04-25-dabbling-in-dart.gmi
18:07 schestowitz; search engines are VERY expensive to run
18:07 schestowitz; the real thing
18:07 schestowitz; like indexing too
18:07 schestowitz; DDG does not index
18:07 schestowitz; it's a sieve
18:07 schestowitz; so they all end up being like governmentr projects
18:07 schestowitz; baidu, yandex, etc.
18:08 schestowitz; and the business model is deception (ads, bias, omission)
18:08 TR News; SpellBinding: AGINUTQ Wordo: CALLA gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-04-25.gmi
18:08 schestowitz; in the 90s many people did use in-site search
18:08 schestowitz; not "Google in this site"
18:09 schestowitz; proper search
18:09 schestowitz; and directories like DMOZ
18:09 -amdj/Wallops-We are pleased to announce the change of default stance for failed password-based login attempts previously announced here <https://libera.chat/news/badpasswdmsg-default>. Services will now no longer tell you about these unless you explicitly opt in to these messages. Instructions are located on that page.
18:09 TR News; "Trademarks, patents, and copyrights are different types" gemini://dt.smol.pub/2023-04-24_10-trademarks-patents-copyrights
18:10 martylake; I think Ifound your website when searching gemini websites, I find the idea interesting, but other IRC channels dedicated to gemini were very opiniated in terms of minorities-phobism.
18:10 TR News; Cars and Power Demonstration gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/cars.gmi
18:11 schestowitz; we were targeted a lot lately
18:11 schestowitz; hence we tend to be suspiccious by default of new people
18:11 martylake; your article about chatpgt-crosoft mention that it started one week ago
18:11 schestowitz; we get extremists from both sides
18:12 schestowitz; it intensified about 5 days ago
18:12 TR News; Here we go round the tech failure bush gemini://textmonger.pollux.casa/gemlog/2023-04-24-01-here-we-go-round-the-tech-failure-bush.gmi
18:12 mjg59_; schestowitz: What did you mean when you claimed I "deny biology"?
18:12 schestowitz; how to ruins irc network
18:13 schestowitz; -breing in nazis
18:13 schestowitz; bring in aggressive anti-nazis
18:13 schestowitz; let thewm fight each other
18:13 schestowitz; network in chaos
18:13 schestowitz; the network can be about gardening
18:13 mjg59_; Maybe you should ban the naxis
18:13 schestowitz; ^ case of point
18:13 martylake; ^ gotcha
18:14 martylake; I read once: dont feed the troll. Is this really working?
18:14 schestowitz; we suspected you too might be trolling
18:14 schestowitz; now i am not so sure
18:14 schestowitz; but either way it was very chaotic lately
18:14 martylake; thanks for reconsidering this.
18:14 schestowitz; biab
18:14 martylake; Iappreciate that.
18:14 mjg59_; I'm surprised that "Maybe you should ban the nazis" is a controversial suggestion
18:16 *schestowitz back to writing about gardening
18:18 mjg59_; Framing it as anti-nazis being as much of a problem as nazis seems, uh, fucked up
18:19 schestowitz; gulagboy punched a nazi and his hand broke
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:21 mjg59_; ?
18:21 schestowitz; we know your modus
18:21 schestowitz; go somewhere else
18:21 schestowitz; put your CoC in some other network
18:23 schestowitz; if you want to actually help, go gather more info on that redmond capus of your masters at MSFT
18:23 schestowitz; https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#polynka
18:24 TR Bot; Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
18:24 schestowitz; "And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none.
18:24 schestowitz; No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gender identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith."
18:24 mjg59_; I'm not sure what to say here. Stallman has, for years, refused to use appropriate pronouns.
18:24 mjg59_; There's literally no argument here. He has an entire webpage justifying it.
18:25 schestowitz; you are not trans
18:25 schestowitz; the above person is
18:25 mjg59_; So?
18:25 schestowitz; you don't speak for what you are not
18:26 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
18:26 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
18:26 mjg59_; You're not a free software developer
18:26 mjg59_; You're certainly not a kernel developer
18:26 mjg59_; And yet you keep speaking for people who are
18:26 mjg59_; Which is ok!
18:27 mjg59_; You should feel entitled to do so if you feel it's the right thing to do
18:27 martylake; Professional trolling is annoying indeed.
18:28 TR News; Links 25/04/2023: More Downtimes and Financial Woes at Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/
18:28 TR Bot; Links 25/04/2023: More Downtimes and Financial Woes at Microsoft | Techrights
18:28 mjg59_; But there is literally no argument that RMS refuses to use appropriate pronouns for some trans people
18:28 mjg59_; And has done so for years
18:28 martylake; I have a "not found, sorry" for gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/
18:30 TR News; (NEW): Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Haiku_s_Kernel_Condition_Variables_API_Design_Implementation.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Haiku_s_Kernel_Condition_Variables_API_Design_Implementation.gmi
18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation
18:30 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
18:31 schestowitz; martylake: it is being generated rigth now
18:31 schestowitz; the address is tentative
18:32 martylake; schestowitz: works now
18:32 martylake; thanks
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18:33 martylake; some links are just articles, and some other are groups of articles, isnt it?
18:33 schestowitz; gulagboy: i will ask rms what they think and tell them that their views are wrong. all 3 of them (rms).
18:33 schestowitz; martylake: yes, there is a daily format
18:34 schestowitz; it's many years old
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18:35 martylake; okok
18:37 schestowitz; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed/
18:37 schestowitz; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/daily-feed/
18:39 TR News; Microsoft doing illegal stuff again. Stuffing unwanted crapware. https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-will-reportedly-unbundle-teams-from-office-to-avoid-antitrust-concerns-183139403.html
18:39 TR Bot; will reportedly unbundle Teams from Office | Engadget
18:40 TR News; ICBM/Red Hat hyping up Microsoft. Who does this company exist to serve anyway? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/gpt-4-digital-transformation
18:40 TR Bot; GPT-4: 5 ways it can help your digital transformation | The Enterprisers Project
18:41 TR News; Will Microsoft even exist in a decade? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-365-search-outage-affects-outlook-teams-and-sharepoint/
18:41 TR Bot; Microsoft 365 search outage affects Outlook, Teams, and SharePoint
18:42 TR News; "Recent accidents with the Boeing 737 Max Aircraft illustrate the failure of proprietary software required to have undergone careful review following the F.A.A.s DO-178x certification process." http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/boeing-737-max-aircraft/
18:42 TR Bot; LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths | Techrights
18:44 TR News; Did Red Hat outsource marketing to Microsoft? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/artificial-intelligence-decision-making
18:44 TR Bot; Artificial intelligence: 6 ways it improves decision-making | The Enterprisers Project
18:45 TR News; Red Hat: listen to 'the suits' (like Jim AllowHurst), not techs https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/5-hbr-articles-cios
18:45 TR Bot; 5 Harvard Business Review articles that will resonate with CIOs right now | The Enterprisers Project
18:46 TR News; Vendor lock spun as "digital transformation" again https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/rethinking-digital-transformation
18:46 TR Bot; 4 ways CIOs are rethinking digital transformation | The Enterprisers Project
18:46 TR News; Huh? What employee retention? Red Hat, you've just fired over 700 of your OWN staff!! https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/employee-retention-tips
18:46 TR Bot; Reimagining employee retention: 4 tips | The Enterprisers Project
18:47 TR News; Why only Apple customers though? What has Apple even done for WINE? Nothin! https://www.wine-reviews.net/2023/04/bundlehunt-2023-summer-macos-app-bundle.html
18:47 TR Bot; Wine Reviews : BundleHunt 2023 Summer macOS App Bundle is live
18:48 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/millions-artifacts-misconfigured-enterprise-software-registries-pwning
18:48 TR Bot; Millions of Artifacts, Misconfigured Enterprise Software Registries Are Ripe for Pwning
18:49 TR News; For many of us, seeing people who are STILL active in Twitter feels like they are Musk's "enablers" (esp. if they have blue tick, i.e. they SPONSOR him!!). Why do this to oneself?? Have dignity, people. Move on. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7beya/elon-musk-twitter-blue-verification
18:49 TR Bot; Elon Musk Just Had His Most Humiliating Weekend at Twitter Yet
18:50 AdmFubar; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/your-messaging-service-should-not-be-dea-informant
18:50 TR Bot; Your Messaging Service Should Not Be a DEA Informant | Electronic Frontier Foundation
18:51 schestowitz; EFF has tasteless recommendation
18:51 schestowitz; like centralised services
18:51 schestowitz; with proprietary software
18:51 schestowitz; they also hoard bribes
18:51 schestowitz; toi recommend bad things
18:51 schestowitz; this isn't barlow's eff
18:51 schestowitz; this eff is lolsing money fast
18:51 schestowitz; millions per year
18:51 schestowitz; see irs.gov
18:53 schestowitz; https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/display_990/43091431/05_2021_prefixes_04-06%2F043091431_202006_990_2021052018152795
18:53 TR Bot; ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION INC - Form 990 for period ending Jun 2020 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
18:53 schestowitz; 2020
18:54 schestowitz; lost 3 million dollars
18:55 TR News; Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2023-04-24-linux-libre-interview-nixsanctuary.en.html
18:55 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com
18:56 mjg59_; Kind of ignoring the prior years where they had a net income of significantly more than $3 million
18:57 schestowitz; still riding the barlow effect
18:57 schestowitz; before cohn was getting people to ask funn y questions
18:57 schestowitz; eff is infiltrated
18:57 schestowitz; mostly by idiots
18:57 schestowitz; not all of then
18:57 schestowitz; but too many
18:57 schestowitz; *them
18:58 schestowitz; your buddies
18:58 schestowitz; idiots attract other idiots
18:59 schestowitz; barlow built something good
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 schestowitz; like splc
18:59 schestowitz; and now it's hijacked by other people
18:59 schestowitz; for other purposes
18:59 schestowitz; and goes down, circling into the drain
19:02 TR News; Use cash, it's a lot safer in most ways. Better for human rights, too. It can even save your life if mugging attempted. https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23441-over-half-of-finns-worried-about-card-security-yet-card-payments-remain-popular-for-app-purchases.html
19:02 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23441-over-half-of-finns-worried-about-card-security-yet-card-payments-remain-popular-for-app-purchases.html )
19:03 TR News; It's better to give away all your cash than to give away some "smart" phone, which typically means you lose far more than just the worth of the phone.
19:14 TR News; Satire: sounds like a job for Microsoft. Bots that "lie" or spread falsehoods. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-replaces-tucker-carlson-with-lying-chatbot
19:14 TR Bot; Fox Replaces Tucker Carlson with Lying Chatbot | The New Yorker
19:14 AdmFubar; https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/u-s-treasury-faces-a-wave-of-criticism-over-faltering-push-to-unmask-anonymous-companies-and-track-dirty-money/
19:14 TR Bot; U.S. Treasury faces a wave of criticism over faltering push to unmask anonymous companies and track dirty money - ICIJ
19:15 schestowitz; AdmFubar: :-0 it's almost like this government is controlled by those companies !!
19:16 AdmFubar; whoda thunk!
19:17 TR News; https://www.newyorker.com/feed/everything Mon, 24 Apr 2023 14:27:02 +0000 Elon Musk Falls Below Clarence Thomas on List of Worlds Richest People
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 TR News; Oh. Oops. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-to-downsize-office-space-with-redmond-exit
19:21 TR News; Oops oops oops. https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-msft-q3-earnings-report-2023-66390b7c
19:21 psydruid; Redmond exit -> relocating to Bill's apartment?
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19:25 schestowitz; updated http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/
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19:26 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
19:26 schestowitz; psydruid: they are too old for this
19:26 psydruid; they are not
19:26 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/
19:26 TR Bot; Mansion of Pedophilia Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights
19:26 psydruid; they're kids
19:26 psydruid; oh that
19:26 psydruid; yes
19:27 schestowitz; gulagboy is not a kid
19:27 schestowitz; he just pretends to be one
19:27 psydruid; only underage kids are welcome in Bill's villa
19:27 psydruid; so sneaky
19:28 psydruid; he wants to be in Bill's place but he isn't let in
19:28 psydruid; I feel so sorry for him
19:30 TR News; LOL. Israel offering to host PEACE talks while a criminal and war criminal is re-elected instead of arrested. Is this satire or PR stunt? https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/sudan-israel-invite-burhan-hemedti-talks
19:30 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/sudan-israel-invite-burhan-hemedti-talks )
19:32 TR News; Detect a crying baby with tinyML and synthetic data https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/24/detect-a-crying-baby-with-tinyml-and-synthetic-data/
19:32 TR Bot; Detect a crying baby with tinyML and synthetic data | Arduino Blog
19:33 schestowitz; psydruid: back doors expertise is insufficient
19:33 schestowitz; might be required to have a massive CP stash like Rick Allen Jones'
19:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/07/29/spd-handover/
19:33 TR Bot; Techrights Now Has All Pages (Nearly 3,000 of Them) About the Famous Police Arrest, an Arrest for Pedophilia by Engineer of Bill Gates, Working at His Home (the Gates Estate Where He Was Busted, Admitted Guilt) | Techrights
19:34 schestowitz; https://www.investopedia.com/amazon-q1-fy2023-earnings-preview-7484530
19:34 TR Bot; Amazon Projected to Turn a Profit Despite Slowdown in Cloud Services Revenue
19:34 schestowitz; income of 2 billion
19:34 schestowitz; monopoly
19:35 schestowitz; but income of 2000 million
19:35 schestowitz; net loss of 4 billion a year agoi
19:35 schestowitz; yes, clown is doing VERY wel
19:35 schestowitz; "show me the profits..."
19:35 schestowitz; "SOON, WE PROMISE!"
19:36 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/24/funny-dad-moments/
19:36 TR Bot; People Reveal The Most Classic 'Dad Moments' Their Dads Ever Had (24 Tweets)
19:36 TR News; Gap Inc to cut hundreds of jobs in another round of layoffs: report https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1013236/gap-to-cut-hundreds-of-jobs-in-another-round-of-layoffs-report-1013236.html
19:36 TR Bot; Gap Inc to cut hundreds of jobs in another round of layoffs: report
19:37 TR News; RapidAPI: WE ARE WORTH $1,0000,000,000! YEAH BABY. Oh. Also: https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/rapidapi-valued-at-1-billion-last-year-cuts-staff-by-50/
19:37 TR Bot; valued at $1 billion last year, cuts staff by 50% | TechCrunch
19:38 TR News; Microsoft: Oh. Do you wanna hear ALL ABOUT OUR CHATBOTS??? https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-falls-with-fang-stocks-on-deck-transports-under-pressure-as-ups-plummets-9/
19:38 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-falls-with-fang-stocks-on-deck-transports-under-pressure-as-ups-plummets-9/ )
19:40 TR News; Microsoft is doing SO well that it's selling off 93% of its MAIN office. nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-to-downsize-office-space-with-redmond-exit
19:41 TR News; Cable news in chaos after 3 major departures https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-fox-don-lemon-cnn
19:41 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-fox-don-lemon-cnn )
19:41 TR News; (NEW): Microsoft Crises, Shutdowns, Downtimes, Antitrust Abuses http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Microsoft_Crises_Shutdowns_Downtimes_Antitrust_Abuses.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Microsoft_Crises_Shutdowns_Downtimes_Antitrust_Abuses.gmi
19:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Microsoft Crises, Shutdowns, Downtimes, Antitrust Abuses
19:43 TR News; "This changes things permanently": Tucker Carlson firing stuns conservatives https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-firing-conservative-maga-movement
19:43 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-firing-conservative-maga-movement )
19:44 TR News; A jury is weighing up Ed Sheerans Thinking Out Loud against Marvin Gayes Lets Get It On https://qz.com/a-jury-is-weighing-up-ed-sheeran-s-thinking-out-loud-1850367744
19:44 TR Bot; A New York jury is considering if Ed Sheeran copied Marvin Gaye
19:45 TR News; How many of them are natives/indigenous? https://qz.com/johannesburg-africas-wealthiest-city-1850367718
19:45 TR Bot; Johannesburg is Africa's wealthiest city
19:55 TR News; LibrePlanet Talk: Rayner Lucas and Tristan Miller on USENET and How Its Moderated | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/rayner-lucas-and-tristan-miller-in-libreplanet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/rayner-lucas-and-tristan-miller-in-libreplanet/
19:55 TR Bot; LibrePlanet Talk: Rayner Lucas and Tristan Miller on USENET and How Its Moderated | Techrights
19:57 TR News; Microsoft controls (and censors for) the British government https://qz.com/rishi-sunak-took-questions-on-linkedin-and-no-one-menti-1850367679
19:57 TR Bot; Rishi Sunak took LinkedIn questions but not on NHS or inflation
20:04 TR News; VirtualBox 7 on Fedora 38: A Complete Installation Guide https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-virtualbox-on-fedora-38/
20:04 TR Bot; VirtualBox 7 on Fedora 38: A Complete Installation Guide
20:05 TR News; RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available https://koutoupis.com/2023/04/24/rapiddisk-9-1-0-now-available/
20:05 TR Bot; RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available Random [Tech] Stuff
20:06 TR News; Late Night Linux Episode 226 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-226/
20:06 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 226 Late Night Linux
20:06 AdmFubar; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/04/do-not-use-generative-ai-for-health-advice-if-you-value-your-life.html
20:06 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/04/do-not-use-generative-ai-for-health-advice-if-you-value-your-life.html )
20:06 schestowitz; of course
20:08 TR News; The issue here is 3CX, not "Linux" https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/lazarus-hackers-linux-malware-linked-to-3cx-supply-chain-attack-177020.html
20:08 TR Bot; Lazarus Linux Malware Linked to 3CX Supply-Chain Attack
20:09 TR News; Updates to the Auto-refreshing Official CVE Feed https://kubernetes.io/blog/2023/04/25/k8s-cve-feed-beta/
20:09 TR Bot; Updates to the Auto-refreshing Official CVE Feed | Kubernetes
20:10 TR News; "Senator at Large for diversity"... making more redundant jobs for "goodfeel"... and PR posturing https://kentwired.com/96862/latest-updates/usg-continues-progress-with-dei-plan/
20:10 TR Bot; USG continues progress with DEI plan Kent Wired
20:11 TR News; Open Source is Striving in Latin America, Here is Why! https://medevel.com/open-source-is-striving-in-latin-america-here-is-why/
20:11 TR Bot; Open Source is Striving in Latin America, Here is Why!
20:13 AdmFubar; https://www.osnews.com/story/136050/the-weird-world-of-windows-file-paths/
20:13 TR Bot; weird world of Windows file paths OSnews
20:13 TR News; Still insanely high level https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/at-6-24-inflation-drops-to-lowest-level-in-18-months/
20:13 TR Bot; At 6.24%, inflation drops to lowest level in 18 months
20:15 TR News; "President Lpez Obrador has tested positive for COVID-19 for a third time" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/amlo-positive-covid-19-says-not-serious/
20:15 TR Bot; AMLO tests positive for COVID-19; says it's 'not serious'
20:15 TR News; Blitz Adds Full-stack Engine To Next.js https://medevel.com/blitz-adds-fullstack-for-next-js/
20:15 TR Bot; Blitz Adds Full-stack Engine To Next.js
20:15 TR News; 13 Most Used Open-source Free Laravel CMS For Building Scalable Sites In 2023 https://medevel.com/laravel-cms-23/
20:15 TR Bot; 13 Most Used Open-source Free Laravel CMS For Building Scalable Sites In 2023
20:19 martylake; re "Amazon Projected to Turn a Profit": the last paragraph displays the fact that stock price is not correlated anymore to reality: " Amazon shares are up 26% year-to-date, outperforming the broader S&P 500 Consumer Discretionary sector, which has risen 14% over the same period."
20:19 TR News; Jonathan Dowland: Separate hledgers https://jmtd.net/log/hledger/separate/
20:19 TR Bot; jmtd log hledger Separate hledgers
20:19 schestowitz; martylake: yes, see also:
20:20 schestowitz; <techrights-news> RapidAPI: WE ARE WORTH $1,0000,000,000! YEAH BABY. Oh. Also: https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/rapidapi-valued-at-1-billion-last-year-cuts-staff-by-50/
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:20 TR Bot; valued at $1 billion last year, cuts staff by 50% | TechCrunch
20:20 schestowitz; tesla shares collapsed 10%
20:20 schestowitz; they were valued at over a trillion dollars
20:20 schestowitz; despite almost never making a profit
20:20 schestowitz; twitter is just losing money
20:20 schestowitz; musk bought it for $44ml with help from saudi, larry ellison etc.
20:20 schestowitz; and got another 14 billion debt with twitter
20:21 schestowitz; so the profits, if any, would go towards serving the debt
20:21 schestowitz; twitter was just "toxdic asset"
20:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.3.gmi
20:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:23 psydruid; what do the saudis, larry ellison etc. think of their "investment"?
20:23 TR News; (NEW): Debian Project Leader Election 2023, Jonathan Carter re-elected http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Debian_Project_Leader_Election_2023_Jonathan_Carter_re_elected.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Debian_Project_Leader_Election_2023_Jonathan_Carter_re_elected.gmi
20:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian Project Leader Election 2023, Jonathan Carter re-elected
20:24 schestowitz; psydruid: let's just say if i were musk, i'd be picky which consulate i enter
20:25 schestowitz; (also: don't don't go the NUFC's stadium to watch a match)
20:25 martylake; twitter is like another press company, a premium PR platform, isnt it?
20:26 schestowitz; sometimes like that
20:26 schestowitz; to that effect
20:26 schestowitz; <techrights-news> "key reason Elon Musk said he was getting rid of the legacy Twitter " https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/elon-seems-to-think-the-cruelest-thing-he-can-do-to-people-is-to-pretend-they-want-to-associate-with-him/ | Source: Techdirt
20:26 TR Bot; Seems To Think The Cruelest Thing He Can Do To People Is To Pretend They Want To Associate With Him | Techdirt
20:28 TR News; Microsoft layoffs https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/25/business/layoffs-2023/index.html
20:28 TR Bot; 2023 layoff tracker: The latest on which companies have announced job cuts | CNN Business
20:29 TR News; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI KEYWORD STUFFING. No substance. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-q3-2023-earnings-what-to-expect
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20:30 TR News; Microsoft: we wasted computing resources and wasted money on media bribes to call us market leader... in HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI (that just means useless chatbot)
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20:30 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
20:32 TR News; Microsoft: we are market leader in a chatbot that tells falsehoods and spews out junk. King of misinformation. We also lose billions of that. LOOK OVA' THERE!! Don't mind mass layoffs.
20:33 TR News; Strings To Numbers gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/04/25/strings-to-numbers.gmi
20:33 AdmFubar; martylake: twitter is like another press company, a premium PR platform, isnt it?
20:33 AdmFubar; it used to be... not anymore
20:34 TR News; Robotics company says HEY HI means robotics. Worthless Microsoft says HEY HI means advanced ELIZABOT. What is HEY HI anyway? Nothing. A worthless buzzword.
20:34 martylake; AdmFubar: how come?
20:34 AdmFubar; you hadnt noticed??
20:34 TR News; "My capsule currently uses Jetforce, a Python-based Gemini server. I've been quite happy with its versatility and ease of setup, and I think it works well for anyone who wants a no-nonsense hosting solution." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2023/202304/20230425-exposed-capsule-directories.gmi
20:35 AdmFubar; they guy who bought it is finding new and creative ways to trash it...
20:35 AdmFubar; https://www.propublica.org/article/do-courts-use-roadside-drug-tests-accuracy
20:35 TR Bot; Courts Are Beginning to Prevent the Use of Roadside Drug Tests ProPublica
20:35 TR News; A rub, or a couple rubs gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~tfurrows/phlog/2023-04-25_aRub.txt
20:36 schestowitz; martylake: http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/
20:36 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation is Selling Tweets, Access, Thank Yous and SPAM Services | Techrights
20:36 AdmFubar; more on the war to close libraries https://www.propublica.org/article/judy-eledge-alaska-libraries-recordings-dunleavy
20:36 TR Bot; Secret Recording of Alaska Library Official Judy Eledge ProPublica
20:37 schestowitz; AdmFubar: maybe he can buy libera.chat next
20:38 schestowitz; libera.za? libera.kr?
20:38 schestowitz; power to the people!~
20:38 psydruid; libera.brics
20:39 AdmFubar; maybe he will collect them all... like chia pets...
20:40 TR News; "With the IRS Files, Propublica ripped away the veil of performative complexity disguising the scams that the ultra-rich use to amass billions and billions (and billions and billions) of dollars, paying next to no tax, or even no tax at all." https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/24/tax-loss-harvesting/
20:40 TR Bot; Pluralistic: How Goldman Sachss tax-loss harvesting lets the ultra-rich rake in billions tax-free (24 Apr 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
20:40 TR News; Public Knowledge Responds to Ninth Circuit of Appeals Epic v. Apple Decision https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-responds-to-epic-v-apple-decision/
20:40 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Responds to Ninth Circuit of Appeals Epic v. Apple Decision - Public Knowledge
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20:41 martylake; schestowitz re selling tweets: well, trademark is hard to defend. anything is business, IP and patent eventually.
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20:41 TR News; rakudoweekly: 2023.17 ReleasePeriod https://rakudoweekly.blog/2023/04/24/2023-17-releaseperiod/
20:41 TR Bot; 2023.17 ReleasePeriod Rakudo Weekly News
20:42 schestowitz; the linux TM is getting associates with rogue activities
20:42 schestowitz; monopolies, spying, spam...
20:43 TR News; Golang crypto/ecdh and the TPM https://linderud.dev/blog/golang-crypto/ecdh-and-the-tpm/
20:43 TR Bot; Golang crypto/ecdh and the TPM
20:48 TR News; Microsoft SVP quits Microsoft https://www.theinformation.com/articles/meta-to-bring-in-microsoft-exec-to-lead-chips-effort-as-it-evaluates-strategy
20:48 TR Bot; Meta to Bring In Microsoft Exec to Lead Chips Effort as It Evaluates Strategy The Information
20:48 AdmFubar; https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/ai-education-anthropomorphism/
20:48 TR Bot; How anthropomorphism hinders AI education - Raspberry Pi Foundation
20:49 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/celebrities-insist-they-won-t-pay-for-twitter-as-blue-ticks-reappear/
20:49 TR Bot; Celebrities insist they won't pay for Twitter as blue ticks reappear - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism
20:50 TR News; Proprietary monoliths perishing, leaving empty offices https://news.theregistryps.com/salesforces-tableau-to-sublease-212000-sqft-in-seattle-and-kirkland/
20:50 TR Bot; Salesforces Tableau to Sublease 212,000 SQFT In Seattle and Kirkland - The Registry
20:51 schestowitz; AdmFubar: if they have more than a million "followers"
20:51 schestowitz; or whatever the latest musk "whim" is
20:51 schestowitz; or PR stunt
20:51 schestowitz; "i paid for this"
20:51 schestowitz; Stephen King
20:52 TR News; Urban sprawl guarenteed the success of online retail https://rubenerd.com/urban-sprawl-and-online-retail/
20:52 TR Bot; Urban sprawl guarenteed the success of online retail
20:55 DaemonFC; Musk * 1000
20:55 DaemonFC; The algorithm of Twitter says so.
20:55 DaemonFC; Angry that he got upstaged by......Joe Biden. LOL
20:56 DaemonFC; This is what algorithms do. They pervert and they distort the reach that a person can manage to get all by themselves.
20:56 DaemonFC; Musk owns Twitter and he's very famous, but he lost the ratings to Joe Biden's speech.
20:57 DaemonFC; So they changed Twitter to boost Musk's actual reach by a thousand.
20:57 MinceR; they'll just start setting ratings manually
20:57 DaemonFC; That's what he's doing.
20:57 MinceR; oh, they've already started doing that
20:57 MinceR; it's what you can expect from a narcissist
20:57 DaemonFC; For every 1 person he could have reached before, they multiplied it by a thousand by altering one line of code.
20:57 psydruid; how long until we see the implosion of Microsoft on the client side?
20:57 DaemonFC; We're seeing it now.
20:58 DaemonFC; PC shipments are a disaster.
20:58 DaemonFC; But Gartner doesn't count Chromebooks as PCs of course.
20:58 psydruid; I would be really worried if I had any desktop infrastructure built on Microsoft
20:58 DaemonFC; Chromebooks are up. They're up because they're cheap and they do every important thing Windows laptops can.
20:59 DaemonFC; Microsoft has been ripping out all of the "I hate Windows, but this one thing is actually kind of cool." things.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 DaemonFC; They tossed Homegroups completely as of Windows 11.
20:59 DaemonFC; So people are not happy about that.
20:59 MinceR; gartner publishes what MICROS~1 writes
20:59 DaemonFC; I've read about people reverting to Windows 10 just to get it back. But they have a few years and then they're sunk again.
20:59 DaemonFC; No more updates.
21:02 psydruid; the implosion has been going faster in the US, the UK, Canada etc.
21:03 psydruid; here in continental Europe people still have to see the light
21:03 schestowitz; psydruid: DaemonFC typo check? http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/
21:03 TR Bot; Software Freedom Conservancy is Selling Verbal Thank-Yous So That Its Chief Can Earn a Quarter Million Dollars Per Year, Tax-Free | Techrights
21:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz, When I'm right I'm right.
21:04 DaemonFC; In the last two days I've made Mandy's retirement account hundreds of dollars in the bond fund already.
21:04 DaemonFC; Things are "normalizing" there while the stock market is listing.
21:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz, They were the ones that helped me get Samsung to turn over a source code tarball for my old blu ray player.
21:05 DaemonFC; At first Samsung said that they didn't have to comply because the GPL was unenforceable since it was open source.
21:05 DaemonFC; This was Samsung in 2009.
21:05 TR News; Software Freedom Conservancy is Selling Verbal Thank-Yous So That Its Chief Can Earn a Quarter Million Dollars Per Year, Tax-Free | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/
21:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I sent them a letter explaining that it could be considered a binding contract with me, the user.
21:06 DaemonFC; Which is now what the Vizio case is all about.
21:06 DaemonFC; It's nice to see someone testing this in court./
21:07 schestowitz; DaemonFC: but this is different
21:07 schestowitz; rem,emver sfc sold keynote to msft
21:07 schestowitz; for two years ina row
21:07 DaemonFC; Yes, organizations get corrupted.
21:07 schestowitz; the person who did this then bbecome interim gm for osi
21:07 schestowitz; *becamew
21:07 schestowitz; deb icaza
21:08 schestowitz; she vanished after this
21:08 schestowitz; not even mentioned in SeaGL
21:08 schestowitz; they underestimated people's memory
21:08 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-gm-is-dropping-apple-carplay-164546895.html
21:08 TR Bot; Here's why GM is dropping Apple CarPlay
21:09 AdmFubar; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PPIZsDQNYlk&listen=false
21:09 DaemonFC; Apple CrApplay is nasty, but GM is hoping it can foist their own subscriptions on you.
21:09 TR Bot; Amazon has gone too far - Invidious
21:09 DaemonFC; Rent your own car, which you have also bought.
21:09 schestowitz; cars used to be for driving
21:09 schestowitz; not playing games on touchscreens
21:09 schestowitz; you got from a to b
21:09 schestowitz; not with $80,000 automobile
21:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Yeah, I've had a list of "old car" issues with the Buick.
21:10 DaemonFC; But it's still been preferable to taking on a $1,000 car loan only to still rent bits and pieces.
21:10 DaemonFC; Which the Buick already has.
21:11 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/business/gm-earnings-first-quarter.html
21:11 TR Bot; G.M.s Profits Fell 18.5% in the First Quarter - The New York Times
21:11 DaemonFC; :)
21:11 schestowitz; "how much to enable the toaster in this goddman car?"
21:11 schestowitz; *goddman
21:11 DaemonFC; Obviously their strategy of only putting any effort into $70,000 SUVs is working fabulously for them.
21:11 schestowitz; > *goddamn
21:11 DaemonFC; Profit down 18.5%.
21:12 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:12 DaemonFC; As big as a house and about as aerodynamic as one, with a battery that weighs more than the Buick. It's back! Big is back! The 6000 SUX EV (Hummer EV).
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21:13 DaemonFC; Nobody cares how bad it is for the planet as long as it's electric.
21:14 DaemonFC; Brawndo! The thirst mutilator! It's got what plants want! Electrolytes!
21:14 DaemonFC; "G.M. said its net income in the first three months of the year fell to $2.4 billion, from $2.9 billion in the first quarter of 2022. Revenue in the first quarter rose 11 percent, to $40 billion."
21:15 DaemonFC; It doesn't matter if you profit as long as gross revenue goes up.
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21:15 TR News; Social control media a fad _YET_? https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/on-thecube-pod-elon-musks-very-bad-week-and-the-ban-on-tiktok-in-montana-thecubepod/
21:15 TR Bot; theCUBE Pod: Elon Musks very bad week and the ban on TikTok in Montana - SiliconANGLE
21:15 DaemonFC; mjg59_ works for an employer like this.
21:15 DaemonFC; New GM works this way now.
21:15 DaemonFC; "In 2021, G.M. recalled all the Bolts made to that point to replace their battery packs after it found that a manufacturing defect had caused fires in a small number of them. After halting production to address the problem, the company resumed Bolt sales in 2022."
21:15 DaemonFC; So it occasionally bursts into flames, killing everyone in the car, but you get a tax incentive.
21:15 DaemonFC; :D
21:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Do it for the incentive.
21:16 DaemonFC; You need an incentive to do it.
21:16 DaemonFC; mjg59_ needs incentives to do it.
21:16 DaemonFC; With the vampire slayer.
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21:17 MinceR; 25 221119 < schestowitz> "how much to enable the toaster in this goddman car?"
21:17 MinceR; i think that turns on automatically when the engine sets itself on fire
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21:18 MinceR; at least that's how german alleged cars do it
21:18 MinceR; \_()_/
21:18 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/microsoft-q3-earnings-despite-cloud-struggles-tech-giant-beat-on-revenue-and-eps-200655635.html
21:18 TR Bot; Microsoft Q3 earnings: Despite cloud struggles tech giant beat on revenue and EPS
21:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Only revenue matters.
21:18 DaemonFC; Not the struggles to obtain profit.
21:18 DaemonFC; :D
21:19 psydruid; schestowitz, this has been going on all over markets
21:19 DaemonFC; If you throw $10 billion at something and make a net profit of $1 billion that's bad. If you throw $100 billion at something and take a net loss of $50 billion, that's good. More revenue is good. Always good. It's all about revenue.
21:19 TR News; Those are not "serverless"; quit using such misleading buzzwords https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/amazon-updates-threat-detection-capabilities-containers-databases-serverless-apps/
21:19 psydruid; upselling gimmicks has become the main way to extract more money out of people
21:19 TR Bot; updates threat detection capabilities for containers, databases and serverless apps - SiliconANGLE
21:19 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/spacex-rocket-launch/
21:19 TR Bot; Giant SpaceX rocket leaves crater, serious damage at Texas base - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism
21:19 psydruid; also in the x86 PC market
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 psydruid; or crApple
21:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz, After hours, Microsoft is up, but this is because or "roboadvisors".
21:21 psydruid; and then you get clowns like gulagboys and minecraft professionals fawning all over them
21:21 schestowitz; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI
21:21 DaemonFC; It's a phenomenon where you just have "AI" reading "the news" and if it sounds right, throw people's money at it.
21:21 schestowitz; and "then news" is up for sale
21:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I'm considering investing in some "real assets".
21:21 schestowitz; so you bribe some outlets
21:21 schestowitz; and they game the robots for you
21:21 DaemonFC; Restaurants might still have some value.
21:21 schestowitz; crime at several levels
21:21 schestowitz; but white-collar, so "OK" :))
21:22 DaemonFC; They got beaten down pretty bad during COVID so there's some room for a comeback at some, if they're managed tightly.
21:22 DaemonFC; Bed Bath & Beyond will be good for Walmart.
21:22 DaemonFC; Very good.
21:22 DaemonFC; I expect to see a sizable redistribution of BB&B's merchandise categories going to Walmart.
21:23 DaemonFC; Total economic activity may go down, but Walmart will get the remainder.
21:24 TR News; How to install Red Hat OpenShift Local on your laptop https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/install-openshift-local
21:24 TR Bot; How to install Red Hat OpenShift Local on your laptop | Enable Sysadmin
21:25 TR News; How to debug OpenShift operators on a live cluster using dlv https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/04/24/how-debug-openshift-operators-live-cluster-using-dlv
21:25 TR Bot; How to debug OpenShift operators on a live cluster using dlv | Red Hat Developer
21:25 TR News; Optimize container images for NGINX and Apache HTTPd https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/04/25/optimize-container-images-nginx-and-apache-httpd
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21:25 TR Bot; Optimize container images for NGINX and Apache HTTPd | Red Hat Developer
21:27 TR News; Canonical markets Ubuntu to Micrtosofters https://petri.com/ubuntu-23-04-azure-active-directory/
21:27 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://petri.com/ubuntu-23-04-azure-active-directory/ )
21:27 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E
21:27 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E
21:28 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E )
21:30 TR News; How to Customize Ubuntu 23.04 to Look Like macOS https://www.makeuseof.com/customize-ubuntu-23-04-to-look-like-macos/
21:30 TR Bot; How to Customize Ubuntu 23.04 to Look Like macOS
21:30 DaemonFC; I need to clean the fridge more often.
21:30 DaemonFC; Mandy is in there trying to cook browned bacon that's been open in the fridge for 3 weeks.
21:30 DaemonFC; He keeps trying to make us sick with food that's turned.
21:30 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi
21:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers
21:31 TR News; Installing and Using Yarn on Ubuntu https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/installing-and-using-yarn-ubuntu
21:31 TR Bot; Installing and Using Yarn on Ubuntu | Linux Journal
21:31 AdmFubar; https://www.salon.com/2023/04/25/twitter-blue-celebrity-mess-elon-musk/
21:31 TR Bot; a sad, muddled place this has become": The madness of Twitter's blue checkpocalypse | Salon.com
21:32 TR News; Mozilla confirms memory leak in Firefox https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/24/mozilla-confirms-memory-leak-in-firefox/ only one??
21:32 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/24/mozilla-confirms-memory-leak-in-firefox/ )
21:33 TR News; Ros 2 robotics software now on iWave single-board computers running Ubuntu 20.04 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/software-products/ros-2-robotics-software-now-on-iwave-single-board-computers-running-ubuntu-20-04-2023-04/
21:33 TR Bot; Ros 2 robotics software now on iWave single-board computers running Ubuntu 20.04
21:34 TR News; How to install XFCE GUI on AWS Ubuntu EC2 Instance https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-xfce-gui-on-aws-ubuntu-ec2-instance/
21:34 TR Bot; How to install XFCE GUI on AWS Ubuntu EC2 Instance
21:34 TR News; Redis Made Easy: A Step-by-Step Guide to Installing Redis on AlmaLinux 9 https://www.howtoforge.com/redis-made-easy-a-step-by-step-guide-to-installing-on-almalinux-9/
21:34 TR Bot; Redis Made Easy: A Step-by-Step Guide to Installing Redis on AlmaLinux 9
21:34 martylake; DaemonFC: is investirg in houses still an option? might be the most conservative one, but not so lucrative.
21:34 TR News; How to Install Cacti on Rocky Linux https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-cacti-on-rocky-linux/
21:34 TR Bot; How to Install Cacti on Rocky Linux
21:36 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/20/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_I.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/20/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_I.gmi
21:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
21:36 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
21:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
21:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
21:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
21:37 schestowitz; martylake: you can only live in one house
21:37 schestowitz; (at a time)
21:39 psydruid; we can introduce the Heisenhaus to solve that problem
21:40 schestowitz; tenants are a risk
21:40 DaemonFC; <martylake> DaemonFC: is investirg in houses still an option? might be the most conservative one, but not so lucrative.
21:40 schestowitz; they might not pay
21:40 schestowitz; maybe unable to pay
21:40 schestowitz; can ruin the place
21:40 schestowitz; the place ruins itself
21:40 DaemonFC; Investing in the debt of the home "owner" while you're renting.
21:40 schestowitz; needs maintenance
21:40 DaemonFC; Based.
21:40 schestowitz; and rent might be not much higher than what banks now give in interest
21:40 schestowitz; andf you end up spending lots of time
21:40 schestowitz; chasing payments, fixing etc.
21:41 DaemonFC; If you have to plonk down $400,000 to get a house that
21:41 DaemonFC; *that's not a total piece of shit.
21:41 DaemonFC; And there's all these hidden fees that aren't just interest, thousands of dollars of fees.
21:41 DaemonFC; Some get figured into the interest because you're financing the fees too.
21:42 DaemonFC; It's like doing to a car dealer and they won't just tell you what the real price of the car is.
21:42 DaemonFC; Sign these papers. Monthly payment.
21:42 TR News; Based on Papermag, the 'Linux' Foundations continues to allow the Linux brand to be abused by mentally ill persons
21:43 DaemonFC; I've noticed that the analysts encourage people to buy high and sell low.
21:44 DaemonFC; Stocks.
21:44 schestowitz; wow, the micrtosoft shills already at it
21:44 schestowitz; https://www.geekwire.com/2023/microsoft-stock-rises-4-as-tech-giant-beats-expectations-with-52-9b-in-q3-revenue/
21:44 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.geekwire.com/2023/microsoft-stock-rises-4-as-tech-giant-beats-expectations-with-52-9b-in-q3-revenue/ )
21:44 schestowitz; faking it
21:44 schestowitz; fake fake fake
21:44 schestowitz; vapourware
21:45 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-republic-stock-plummets-49-after-revealing-deposit-exodus-in-march-133338066.html
21:45 TR Bot; First Republic stock plummets after revealing deposit exodus in March
21:45 schestowitz; pure spin
21:45 schestowitz; microsoft site
21:45 schestowitz; "The PC shipment slowdown is not helping the Redmond, Wash. tech giant, which reported a 28% decrease in Windows OEM revenue (from PC manufacturers paying Microsoft to put Windows on their devices) and a 30% decrease in Devices, which includes Surface tablets and computers. Xbox hardware revenue declined 30%. "
21:45 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/video/first-republic-bank-liquidity-standpoint-132459653.html
21:45 TR Bot; First Republic Bank: From a liquidity standpoint, they are just fine, analyst says
21:46 psydruid; revenue up so much that the main campus in redmond has to be vacated
21:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I believe I said months ago that their XBOX division was doing poorly.
21:46 schestowitz; yeah
21:46 psydruid; these are Enron levels of deception
21:46 DaemonFC; Based on PornHub data.
21:47 psydruid; but no one in the corrupt US government cares anymore
21:47 schestowitz; revenue up based on... something
21:47 psydruid; a feeling
21:47 psydruid; of bribes
21:47 schestowitz; derivatives
21:47 schestowitz; buying one's own shares?
21:47 schestowitz; revenue
21:47 schestowitz; not profit
21:47 schestowitz; anyway...
21:47 psydruid; I don't think anyone knows what's going on there anymore
21:47 psydruid; except for microsoft insiders
21:48 psydruid; who can expose the guts of the company and lay them bare for everyone to see
21:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The downside to Microsoft is that three letters betray how XBOX is doing.
21:48 DaemonFC; Edg
21:48 MinceR; edging?
21:49 DaemonFC; Because the browser on the XBOX is Edge and it adds that to the UA string, so PornHub knows if you're not just another "Chrome" user.
21:49 DaemonFC; They post their statistics at least once every year.
21:50 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-first-quarter-earnings-top-estimates-announces-70b-stock-buyback-200904755.html
21:50 TR Bot; Alphabet earnings: First quarter results top estimates
21:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Google announces $70 billion share buyback.
21:51 DaemonFC; Alphabet (GOOG, GOOGL) reported first quarter earnings on Tuesday that beat expectations on the top- and bottom-lines, while also authorizing a massive $70 billion stock buyback. Alphabet stock rose as much as 5% in after hours trading on the news.
21:51 DaemonFC; The Share Buyback Tax means the government theoretically makes $700 million dollars on this.
21:54 schestowitz; it shows "the market" has no grip on reality
21:54 schestowitz; it's a bubble fantasy land
21:55 schestowitz; DaemonFC: guess who is left with the bill at the end?
21:55 schestowitz; see inflation, unemployment
21:55 schestowitz; (yes, the gov. lies about that one)
21:55 schestowitz; of course the "job creators" are the ones causing this
21:56 schestowitz; the "philanthropists"
21:56 schestowitz; the golobe trotters https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
21:56 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
21:56 schestowitz; *globe
21:56 schestowitz; bill gates, the blow job creator
21:57 psydruid; so the media are collaborators in a giant deception scheme
21:57 schestowitz; hey, kid, wanna pay your BILL?
21:57 psydruid; so much for them
21:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Mandy just got me going again.
21:58 DaemonFC; I told him "You want a $300 pair of shoes when there's nothing wrong with the dozen pair you already have and you dare yell at me about $2 of electric for my air purifiers!?"
21:58 DaemonFC; I finally got him to back off.
21:58 TR News; Josef Strzibny: Reflections on my 24h startup challenge https://nts.strzibny.name/24h-startup-challenge/
21:58 TR Bot; Reflections on my 24h startup challenge
21:59 schestowitz; DaemonFC: maybe tyhe ads on his skinnerbox
21:59 schestowitz; aka "smart" phone
21:59 schestowitz; which dumbs him down
21:59 DaemonFC; Why do you think I have the bank cards?
21:59 schestowitz; with or without radition, that thing rots the brain
21:59 DaemonFC; Jesus Fuck
21:59 TR News; WP Briefing: Episode 54: A Bill of Rights for the Open Web https://wordpress.org/news/2023/04/episode-54-open-webs-bill-of-rights/
21:59 TR Bot; Episode 54: A Bill of Rights for the Open Web WordPress News
22:00 schestowitz; implusive buying
22:00 DaemonFC; I told him if we have $300 we're putting it into bonds.
22:00 schestowitz; my name is bonds
22:00 schestowitz; james bonds
22:00 MinceR; my name is bonds
22:00 MinceR; covalent bonds
22:01 DaemonFC; I try to explain to him that when you save money it generates more money.
22:01 schestowitz; yo dawg, i herd you want to bondle with ma bonds
22:01 DaemonFC; He says "You're wasting my money on those bonds and CDs!"
22:01 schestowitz; ha
22:02 schestowitz; you can't wear CDs, ryan!
22:02 DaemonFC; You can pull a bond with interest and buy shoes later with the proceeds, when the shoes you have are worn out.
22:02 DaemonFC; And you will have another twenty dollars in interest by the time you've worn out your current pair.
22:03 schestowitz; who spends that much on a pair of shoes? hanmg on a second
22:03 schestowitz; you married marisol
22:03 DaemonFC; Yeah, if you let him near the money we're fucked.
22:03 DaemonFC; He spends it on iPhone games, shoes, and airpods.
22:04 schestowitz; "i'll be homeless, but with a nice shoe rack!"
22:04 schestowitz; does a shoe rack fit in an old buick?
22:05 schestowitz; a: "take a photo of me with thos "designers" shoes next to that expensive car I don't own
22:05 schestowitz; versus
22:05 schestowitz; b: "take a photo of me next to that house I don't have"
22:05 schestowitz; "my friends will LIIIIIKE"
22:07 TR News; Is the Government Tracking Your Social CONTROL Media Activity? https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/is-the-government-tracking-your-social-media-activity
22:07 TR Bot; Is the Government Tracking Your Social Media Activity? | ACLU
22:07 TR News; How to install CyberPanel on Ubuntu 22.04 / 20.04 https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-cyberpanel-ubuntu/
22:07 TR Bot; How to install CyberPanel on Ubuntu 22.04 / 20.04 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
22:08 TR News; Audacity 3.3 Released with More Real Time Effects https://www.omglinux.com/audacity-3-3-released/
22:08 TR Bot; Audacity 3.3 Released with More Real Time Effects - OMG! Linux
22:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The iPhone is the only thing he ever pays any attention to. It's the modern boob tube.
22:08 DaemonFC; You know how people used to veg out on the couch in front of the TV.
22:08 TR News; Destination Linux 320: The Chumby on Jills Treasure Hunt! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-320/
22:08 TR Bot; The Chumby on Jill's Treasure Hunt! - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
22:09 DaemonFC; Watching commercials about hearing aids and Fox News?
22:09 DaemonFC; Slowly dying.
22:09 psydruid; it's interesting how growing up in poverty makes people crave all kinds of things
22:09 DaemonFC; The iPhone is like that for younger people.
22:09 schestowitz; psydruid: very shiity things
22:09 schestowitz; *tty
22:09 psydruid; whereas those who grew up in relative wealth don't have that craving
22:09 schestowitz; DaemonFC: under the blanket
22:09 schestowitz; near a pillow
22:09 psydruid; it's like self-sabotage
22:09 schestowitz; the legs unusede
22:09 schestowitz; they might as well fall off
22:10 schestowitz; they won't even notice :/
22:10 schestowitz; psydruid: yes, over-compensating
22:10 schestowitz; sometimes people whio gre up poor want to collect money
22:10 schestowitz; to "be rich"
22:10 schestowitz; unlike people around them
22:11 schestowitz; that sort of does not exist when everyone around you is well off already
22:11 schestowitz; you would impress nobody anyway
22:12 TR News; Bash Examples for Press any key to continue https://tecadmin.net/bash-press-any-key-to-continue/
22:12 TR Bot; Bash Examples for "Press any key to continue..." TecAdmin
22:12 DaemonFC; The only reason he's not getting bedsores is because he works at Walmart.
22:12 DaemonFC; This is sad.
22:13 DaemonFC; If I want to stop him from jumping in bed with the phone I have to catch him off guard when I pick him up and say "We're going somewhere."
22:13 schestowitz; psydruid: they also witness that money does not buy happiness
22:13 schestowitz; poverty is unhappiness
22:13 schestowitz; but abject poverty
22:13 schestowitz; like food insecurity-level poverty
22:13 schestowitz; starvation is pain
22:14 schestowitz; DaemonFC: tell him he can but shoes when they are edible
22:14 schestowitz; and he can show you he eats them
22:15 DaemonFC; I put an end to the Apple Apple Apple very fast.
22:15 schestowitz; either that or you become a stickfigure like gullagboy
22:15 DaemonFC; They got about $100 from us while I going bankrupt.
22:15 DaemonFC; So he could imaginary things in his games.
22:16 schestowitz; iMF
22:16 DaemonFC; If I hadn't caught it when I did, he would have gotten us in trouble with the bank too.
22:16 TR News; (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and WordPress http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_Late_Night_Linux_and_WordPre.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_Late_Night_Linux_and_WordPre.gmi
22:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and WordPress
22:17 DaemonFC; He's one of those people who if he has $5 he won't two minutes later. He'll go buy garbage in the clearance aisle that we don't even have a use for.
22:17 DaemonFC; And toss it in the mound of trash over by the bed.
22:17 DaemonFC; And scream and throw things all over the bedroom if it's missing.
22:17 DaemonFC; Even though it's not useful.
22:17 schestowitz; food can be useful
22:18 schestowitz; you can also give some away
22:18 schestowitz; all people eat
22:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I told mom quit giving Mandy money.
22:19 DaemonFC; Put it in her retirement account. Not the big shit pile next to my bed.
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 TR News; Who should lead us? https://drewdevault.com/2023/04/24/2023-04-24-Who-leads-us.html
22:20 TR Bot; Who should lead us?
22:20 DaemonFC; I told her this is like Dave spending money on ebay and then having boxes of chains showing up at the house.
22:22 DaemonFC; I told her if he asks for something to please say "Gee I'd like to, but I have some unexpected bills and things are tight right now."
22:22 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> Put it in her retirement account. Not the big shit pile next to my bed.
22:22 schestowitz; that's her mom
22:22 DaemonFC; Oh it gets better.
22:22 schestowitz; undeer the bed
22:23 DaemonFC; They had to throw 90% of Grandma's shit in the garbage when she went to the home and rent a storage unit for the rest.
22:23 DaemonFC; They cycle out what she should be wearing by the season.
22:23 DaemonFC; Grandma left her kids with nothing so that she could buy thousands of outfits at Macy's for herself.
22:23 TR News; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://dwaves.de/2023/04/24/when-computers-learned-to-lie-a-ai-driven-automatic-labeling-machine-nvidia-video-generator-demo/
22:23 TR Bot; when computers learned to lie a AI driven automatic labeling machine NVIDIA Video generator demo | dwaves.de
22:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz, This is why you find nice things at thrift shops sometimes.
22:24 DaemonFC; Things that still have tags.
22:24 schestowitz; MSDE IN CHINA
22:24 DaemonFC; It's a dollar at Goodwill and it says $100 at "the store".
22:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Mandy's name is on the CDs.
22:25 DaemonFC; But I don't think he would know how to get them.
22:25 DaemonFC; So basically it's an investment in both our names, but only I know how to redeem the investment.
22:25 DaemonFC; And if I don't do this, we may not be able to buy food, pay rent, and make the medical bills.
22:25 DaemonFC; Because "Apple Apple Apple" on the statement.
22:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Every two weeks when he gets paid, I move it over to another bank and buy a CD.
22:27 TR News; (NEW): RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/RapidDisk_9_1_0_now_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/RapidDisk_9_1_0_now_available.gmi
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22:27 DaemonFC; Every month when I get paid, to the other bank.
22:27 DaemonFC; I only keep a few hundred in our other account.
22:27 DaemonFC; And I have it set up so that it can't overdraft.
22:27 DaemonFC; That's a safeguard against him figuring out how to get back in and pay iPhone games again.
22:28 DaemonFC; The very worst damage he can do is the few hundred bucks I keep in that account.
22:28 DaemonFC; This is horrible.
22:28 DaemonFC; I also blacklisted Apple from our card accounts so that any payments to them will be rejected immediately.
22:28 schestowitz; that's a premium
22:29 schestowitz; on having kids
22:29 DaemonFC; And turned off the ability to buy things and bill our phone bill.
22:29 schestowitz; or marrying "kids"
22:29 DaemonFC; Then he gets resentful and hateful.
22:29 DaemonFC; Because he wants ANOTHER pair of shoes.
22:29 DaemonFC; Even though he has a pair for every day of the month already.
22:29 schestowitz; marisol
22:29 DaemonFC; And someone has to be the grown up and say NO
22:29 schestowitz; it's contagious :-)
22:30 DaemonFC; Then it's "Leechey-ka Leechey-ka! I'm going to ask mom!"
22:30 DaemonFC; I said, "ASK MOM! MOM'S BROKE!"
22:30 schestowitz; mommy, just killed a man
22:32 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
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22:36 TR Bot; Links 25/04/2023: RapidDisk 9.1.0 and Microsoft Revenue Down in Many Areas | Techrights
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22:43 TR News; Corporate Layoff: 3M Announces Mass Cutback of Workforce Amidst Downtrend in Manufacturing https://insidebitcoins.com/news/corporate-layoff-3m-announces-mass-cutback-of-workforce-amidst-downtrend-in-manufacturing
22:43 TR Bot; Corporate Layoff: 3M Announces Mass Cutback of Workforce Amidst Downtrend in Manufacturing
22:43 TR News; "More than 183,000 global technology-sector employees have been laid off since the beginning of 2023" https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20230425498/meta-in-the-layoffs-spotlight-ahead-of-first-quarter-results
22:43 TR Bot; in the layoffs spotlight ahead of first-quarter results | Morningstar
22:47 TR News; Security updates for Tuesday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/930128/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/930128/
22:47 TR Bot; updates for Tuesday [LWN.net]
22:48 TR News; GCC 13 and the state of gccrs https://rust-gcc.github.io/2023/04/24/gccrs-and-gcc13-release.html
22:48 TR Bot; GCC 13 and the state of gccrs | GCC Front-End For Rust
22:49 TR News; Git v2.40.1 and friends https://lwn.net/ml/git/xmqqa5yv3n93.fsf@gitster.g/
22:49 TR Bot; Git v2.40.1 and friends [LWN.net]
22:50 TR News; Former Methodist employees plead guilty to HIPAA violations https://www.databreaches.net/former-methodist-employees-plead-guilty-to-hipaa-violations/
22:50 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/former-methodist-employees-plead-guilty-to-hipaa-violations/ )
22:51 TR News; CA: Elk Grove Unified School District investigating after employees report issues filing taxes https://www.kcra.com/article/elk-grove-unified-employee-tax-filing-issues/43690931#
22:51 TR Bot; Elk Grove Unified: Employees report issues filing taxes
22:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Can't have a downturn in the retirement plan if there's no retirement plan. -Mom
22:53 *DaemonFC points to head
22:53 schestowitz; lol
22:53 DaemonFC; That's usin' your noodle.
22:53 schestowitz; john salinas
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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23:01 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7szp5rqe2tdw8.irc) has joined #techrights
23:01 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/why-first-republic-bank-in-trouble-mortgages-backfired-rising-rates-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T
23:01 TR Bot; How First Republic Bank's Strategy of Low-Rate Mortgages Backfired
23:01 DaemonFC; "First Republic handed out billions in ultra-low-rate mortgages to the wealthy. It backfired horribly."
23:02 DaemonFC; "The bank said Monday that it will cut as much as 25% of staff, and is pursuing strategic options after revealing that deposits plunged by more than $100 billion in the first three months of the year.
23:02 DaemonFC; That sent the stock as much as 48% lower on the day, with First Republic now down 93% for the year to date. Gillian Tan and Matthew Monks at Bloomberg subsequently reported that the bank is exploring an asset sale in the range of $50 billion to $100 billion."
23:03 *DaemonFC giggles in a high pitch
23:03 DaemonFC; First Republic is going under and they're probably going to take the $30 billion from Chase with them.
23:04 DaemonFC; "One of the causes of First Republic's troubles is a strategy to woo rich clients with huge mortgages that offer sweet terms, as detailed in this story from Noah Buhayar, Jennifer Surane, Max Reyes, and Ann Choi at Bloomberg.
23:04 DaemonFC; In particular, First Republic would offer interest-only mortgages, where the borrower didn't have to pay back any principal for the first decade of the loan. In 2020 and 2021, it extended close to $20 billion of these loans in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York alone, per Bloomberg's analysis."
23:06 DaemonFC; "The quality of these loans isn't in question, as the borrowers are extremely safe bets."
23:07 DaemonFC; Very safe bets, works in "tech", tech having severe layoffs.
23:07 DaemonFC; Very safe bets.
23:08 DaemonFC; How do you write loans to tech workers who don't have jobs and some of whom are facing deportation where you can't even sue them?
23:08 DaemonFC; Then say it's "very safe"?
23:08 schestowitz; got draft
23:08 schestowitz; wanna check?
23:08 DaemonFC; Sure.
23:08 schestowitz; putin: hey, KID!
23:08 schestowitz; wanna try a DRAFT?
23:08 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Too soon?
23:09 schestowitz; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/
23:09 TR Bot; Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights
23:09 DaemonFC; "Wealthy clients can easily move their deposits away from First Republic while keeping their mortgage with the firm, which creates a liquidity challenge.
23:09 DaemonFC; And these loans are hard to sell to other lenders, given Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are limited to only purchasing mortgages up to just over $1 million. Should they successfully sell, it would also create a hole in First Republic's balance sheet. The bank would be forced to recognize the current value of these loans, and what are currently unrealized losses could suddenly wipe out the bank's capital."
23:09 DaemonFC; This is a disaster.
23:10 schestowitz; HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI
23:10 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Pfft.
23:10 schestowitz; problem solved
23:10 DaemonFC; firstrepublic dot ai
23:10 schestowitz; "here, have a chaffbot"
23:10 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So GULAG....
23:10 DaemonFC; Who has your mortgage?
23:10 schestowitz; banks: just use the app
23:10 schestowitz; no more service
23:10 schestowitz; no branches
23:11 schestowitz; app-only
23:11 schestowitz; crrapp
23:11 DaemonFC; firstrepublic dot app
23:11 schestowitz; throw employees under boss
23:11 schestowitz; save some money
23:11 schestowitz; for now
23:11 schestowitz; next: throw clients under bug
23:11 schestowitz; foreclose
23:11 DaemonFC; Well, tossing loan officers is an easy call.
23:11 schestowitz; *bus
23:11 DaemonFC; They're not going to be writing more loans with no assets.
23:12 schestowitz; DaemonFC: see draft
23:12 DaemonFC; "controversial practice of granting being the subject of recent leaks."
23:12 DaemonFC; Link doesn't cover the s
23:14 DaemonFC; "In this open letter, theyve told colleagues"
23:14 DaemonFC; sent to colleagues would sound better
23:15 DaemonFC; Is it just me or did triscuits get saltier?
23:16 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AGG?p=AGG&.tsrc=fin-srch
23:16 TR Bot; iShares Core U.S. Aggregate Bond ETF (AGG) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance
23:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz, It's a bit early to declare victory, but AGG is moving on up pretty nicely as S&P 500 sags.
23:16 DaemonFC; I wrote about selling Mandy's S&P shares and buying AGG shares on Friday I think.
23:17 DaemonFC; We've already realized a few hundred bucks in appreciation.
23:17 DaemonFC; At least things are finally looking up after the stocks have been so bleh under Joe Biden.
23:17 schestowitz; biden is running
23:17 schestowitz; at 1 mph
23:17 TR News; Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/
23:17 TR Bot; Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights
23:18 DaemonFC; Between tech and finance, and fintech, this earnings season is fucked.
23:18 psydruid; > banks: just use the app
23:18 psydruid; > app-only
23:18 psydruid; I still have this device so I can do online banking without a crapp. My mom's device broke and she was told she needed to use her "smartphone". So I can believe that you actually need a "smartphone" for online banking now.
23:18 DaemonFC; And next one will probably be a lot worse.
23:18 schestowitz; psydruid: "need"
23:19 schestowitz; there are fallbacks
23:19 schestowitz; they hide these
23:19 schestowitz; because it "costs themn"
23:19 schestowitz; they hand over the jobs to the cusatomers
23:19 psydruid; they still provide those devices to "business customer"
23:19 psydruid; because those are "rich" and normal people are "poor"
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 psydruid; it's disgusting
23:20 psydruid; customers*
23:21 schestowitz; they don't want to be banks
23:21 schestowitz; just some registered name
23:21 schestowitz; and customers "do their thing"
23:21 schestowitz; on "app"
23:21 schestowitz; and still risk losing all the money
23:21 schestowitz; because the "app" gave too many "toxic" loanss
23:22 schestowitz; and you cannot afford a bank account in bermuda or something
23:22 schestowitz; like creepy bill
23:22 schestowitz; so the deck is stacked against you
23:22 schestowitz; and you don't get 10% interest a year
23:22 psydruid; I also see ads for betting and cryptocurrency sites on national tv now
23:23 schestowitz; it's legal
23:23 schestowitz; because it robs poor people
23:23 psydruid; these societies are doomed
23:23 schestowitz; not rich people
23:23 schestowitz; rich people don't bet on football teams
23:23 schestowitz; they buy the teams
23:23 schestowitz; ask newcastle
23:23 schestowitz; their football club is not just "foreign asset
23:24 psydruid; you start wondering who is the crazy one now
23:24 schestowitz; *now
23:24 psydruid; "you" for being who you have always been
23:24 schestowitz; my close friend lost all his savings
23:24 schestowitz; in a "Crypto" site
23:24 schestowitz; they money was "lost"
23:24 schestowitz; gn
23:24 psydruid; or "they" for changing all the rules and values practically overnight
23:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The upside to this is you get paid interest.
23:33 DaemonFC; If you go to a bank with a lot of branches, ask them what their interest rate is.
23:33 DaemonFC; 0.03%?
23:33 DaemonFC; It's not gonna be 4%.
23:34 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-predict-stock-market-moves-185307674.html
23:34 TR Bot; ChatGPT Can Predict Stock Market Moves? New Study Shows ChatGPT Surprisingly Accurate in Predicting Stock Moves And Could Even Replace Investment Analysts
23:34 DaemonFC; LOL
23:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz, It wouldn't surprise me if the FDIC is having a meeting right now about seizing First Republic Bank on Friday.
23:39 DaemonFC; If things are so bad it can't wait, they could do it sooner.
23:43 *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights
23:45 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/software-engineer-coding-jobs-face-layoffs-this-year-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T
23:45 TR Bot; Layoffs Are Here for Those Who Chose to 'Learn to Code'
23:47 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/how-delivery-driver-gets-big-tips-declines-orders-wealthy-areas-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T
23:47 TR Bot; How Delivery Driver Gets Tips: Declines Orders, Waits in Wealthy Areas
23:50 DaemonFC; "I'm not doing this to gamble. I'm doing this to make money," he said. "So I'm not really interested in playing the game of, 'Oh, maybe I'll do this person's delivery for a guaranteed $2.50. Maybe it might be more.' I don't play that game. And most people don't like to play that game. That's what results and their order's not getting picked up, or it takes awhile for them to get their food."
23:50 DaemonFC; :)
23:50 DaemonFC; GULAG's Pizza
23:50 psydruid; Dr Pizza
23:50 DaemonFC; Just the tip.
23:51 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/sf-target-store-locking-up-shelves-to-deter-shoplifters-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T
23:51 TR Bot; SF Target Store Locking up Full Aisles of Shelves to Deter Shoplifters
23:51 DaemonFC; Dealing with doing business in Matt GULAG's city.
23:52 DaemonFC; Lock up your toothpaste.
23:52 DaemonFC; Lock up your deodorant.
23:52 DaemonFC; Lock up your sons and daughters.
23:52 DaemonFC; :)
23:53 DaemonFC; Things are starting to get that bad here.
23:53 DaemonFC; The Walgreens started to lock up tings like toothpaste.
23:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
23:53 DaemonFC; Walmart hasn't, yet.
23:55 DaemonFC; They lose so much to looters thanks to those laws that Matt GULAG and Buffy and all their friends voted for, that they have to throw the fuckin' toothpaste behind a locked door and you have to get an employee to grab some for you.
23:55 DaemonFC; Because that is now cheaper than tolerating all of the theft.
23:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Eggs got so expensive earlier this year that Walmart was putting alarms on each 60 count carton because they were $30.
23:57 psydruid; I wouldn't even deliver the pizza at home
23:57 psydruid; You pay in advance and I would drop it somewhere close to your place and you come and pick it up
23:58 psydruid; It's not worth risking your life for a few dollars
23:59 DaemonFC; I just stock up on toothpaste a couple years at a time and bank the rebates.
23:59 DaemonFC; Before you start throwing money in CDs, you should stock up on the stuff you're constantly using and bank rebates.
23:59 DaemonFC; They can't raise the price on that anymore.
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