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00:00 matey; actually forking would be less bloody
00:00 matey; unless you actually put a fork in that person
00:00 matey; but forking the program would work, IF WE kept programs forkable
00:00 matey; now, look around for who keeps things forkable and who doesnt
00:00 matey; gnu?
00:00 matey; no...
00:00 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164071
00:00 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
00:00 matey; though rules have exceptions
00:01 matey; ibm, i mean the gnu project
00:01 matey; has kept gcc (monstrosity that it is) far more forkable than microsoft llvm
00:01 schestowitz-TR; is gnu a project per se?
00:01 matey; time for another project paperclip?
00:01 schestowitz-TR; there si GNU OS
00:01 schestowitz-TR; GNU ProjectS
00:01 schestowitz-TR; that make up the OS
00:01 matey; <schestowitz-TR> is gnu a project per se? <- it certainly should be, its CALLED "the gnu project"
00:01 matey; its a song about the gnu project
00:01 schestowitz-TR; and the OS as a whole as a project of projects
00:01 matey; thats why i called the song the free software song
00:02 matey; you can get anything you want, and richard stallmans restaurant
00:02 matey; you can get anything you want, at richard stallmans restaurant
00:02 matey; (excepting richard)
00:02 matey; walk right in its around the back
00:02 matey; hes the inventer of ai with recursive backtrack
00:02 schestowitz-TR; there is a nickname for richard
00:02 matey; there are a few
00:02 schestowitz-TR; yeah
00:03 schestowitz-TR; dick-lip-man
00:03 matey; thats terrible
00:03 schestowitz-TR; with two Ps
00:03 matey; but
00:03 matey; his mothers name was lippman wasnt it
00:03 schestowitz-TR; if I understand correctly, the father was not the biological
00:03 matey; mmhmm
00:03 schestowitz-TR; so there are two surnames
00:03 schestowitz-TR; like with Julian Assange
00:03 schestowitz-TR; (Shipman)
00:04 matey; its a recursive last name
00:04 matey; so technically stallmans last name rhymes with assanges
00:04 matey; lippman & shipman
00:04 matey; they should do a broadway show
00:04 schestowitz-TR; lippshiptz
00:05 matey; einstein himself didnt think he would ever be famous
00:05 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrrz54UtkCc
00:05 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=qrrz54UtkCc
00:05 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | Cell Block Tango - Invidious
00:05 matey; he literally thought the theory of relativity "might interest a few astrophyicists"
00:05 matey; it was his fanboy, bucky fuller, who met him and said "youre going to be a household name you know"
00:06 schestowitz-TR; Lippschiz?
00:06 matey; einstein
00:06 matey; another great german, almost as wonderful as marlene but for different reasons
00:07 matey; its a heartbreaking story, because they were almost perfect for each other
00:07 matey; einstein wasnt a great husband
00:07 matey; but he was pretty cool other than that
00:07 schestowitz-TR; the subtitlkes say Lipschitz
00:07 matey; the subtitlkes say Lipschitz <- i always think theyre a plot from the russians
00:07 matey; subtitles i mean
00:08 matey; just another way to avoid saying what they really mean
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00:12 matey; dietrich is an oxymoron
00:13 schestowitz-TR; diet-ich and die rich
00:14 matey; i should say its an oxymoron in english
00:14 matey; even though its not english
00:14 schestowitz-TR; here's one for philosophy classes
00:15 schestowitz-TR; if the tree in the wood falls on rich people and the rich people die, is that bench of persons still rich?
00:15 schestowitz-TR; *bunch
00:15 schestowitz-TR; in fact, is tyhe concept of rich dead people valid?
00:15 schestowitz-TR; dead rich people - yes
00:15 matey; we should ask their estate
00:15 schestowitz-TR; but rich dead people
00:15 schestowitz-TR; does that latter exist?
00:15 schestowitz-TR; ah, "esttate"
00:16 schestowitz-TR; they always make up words for themselves
00:16 matey; but dead people arent rich because their riches are distributed elsewhere
00:16 matey; i mean, im done supporting capitalism
00:16 schestowitz-TR; so it's fiscal transhumanism
00:16 schestowitz-TR; the "money" will "live on"
00:16 matey; but when rich people die i can tell you where their money goes by default
00:16 schestowitz-TR; passing from one vessel to another
00:17 schestowitz-TR; matey: a different bank account
00:17 schestowitz-TR; i.e. other bits on some hard drives
00:17 matey; sure
00:17 schestowitz-TR; "dad died"
00:17 schestowitz-TR; "what does it mean?"
00:17 schestowitz-TR; "it means we need to run some C functions and change the numbers by flipping bits"
00:18 matey; https://www.theonion.com/u-s-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money-ju-1819571322
00:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/u-s-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money-ju-1819571322 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theonion.com/u-s-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money-ju-1819571322
00:18 TR Bot; U.S. Economy Grinds To Halt As Nation Realizes Money Just A Symbolic, Mutually Shared Illusion
00:19 schestowitz-TR; shambolic
00:19 schestowitz-TR; anyway, it's untrue
00:19 schestowitz-TR; people still respect or honour or value it
00:19 schestowitz-TR; but beyond some level it is impossible to derive much out of it
00:19 schestowitz-TR; except toy projects like buying politicians
00:20 schestowitz-TR; or media
00:20 schestowitz-TR; or companies
00:20 schestowitz-TR; maslow's pyramid of needs (iirc) would not even name such things
00:20 matey; also https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/barter-society-myth/471051/
00:20 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/barter-society-myth/471051/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/barter-society-myth/471051/
00:20 schestowitz-TR; the joy of moving to starvation to full tummy
00:20 TR Bot; The Myth of the Barter Economy - The Atlantic
00:20 schestowitz-TR; or homelessness to roof
00:20 schestowitz-TR; or being loved etc.
00:21 schestowitz-TR; those are more fulfilling than buying some basketball teams and rubbing man-thighs
00:21 matey; and rubbing man-thighs <- ???
00:21 schestowitz-TR; or paying for "first class" flight
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00:21 schestowitz-TR; matey: oh, you missed it
00:21 bnchs; why do programs take shortcuts when storing the date/time of something, when it ALWAYS leads to disaster
00:21 matey; i guess i really did
00:22 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
00:22 matey; also there was an "orgy" in here earlier
00:22 matey; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4 <- not news, but dl anyway
00:22 bnchs; i guess unsigned 32-bit unix timestamp doesn't fit anymore (4 feb 2106)
00:22 psydruid; it's all about saving those tiny bits of crucial information
00:22 bnchs; 7 feb 2106*
00:23 psydruid; or discarding them by making shortsighted decisions
00:24 bnchs; like storing the first 2 numbers of a year
00:24 bnchs; trying to do this with dates will only bite you in the ass
00:25 psydruid; that may have made sense in 1972, but in 2022 not so much
00:26 TR News; But was the EPO's Opposition Division independent? https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/asahi-glass-and-mitscherlich-defend-glass-coating-patents/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
00:26 TR Bot; Asahi Glass and Mitscherlich defend glass-coating patents - JUVE Patent
00:26 TR Bot; G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
00:27 TR News; Mindlessly relaying EPO management's talking points http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/04/06/number-of-patent-applications-in-europe-continues-to-grow/ see the comments
00:27 TR Bot; Number of patent applications in Europe continues to grow - Kluwer Patent Blog
00:27 matey; /me sets the date of everything to the start of the unix epoch so its all verifiable when building
00:27 matey; TIME IS AN ILLUSION!
00:28 AdmFubar; I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can to that.. https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/2022-sci-fi-contest-your-home-assistant-hal-9000/
00:28 TR Bot; Sci-Fi Contest: Your Home Assistant, HAL 9000 | Hackaday
00:28 matey; <psydruid> that may have made sense in 1972 <- they probably said it was a terrible idea, but some pointy-haired-boss said "meh"
00:29 TR News; Software Patents thrown out at EPO https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/velos-ep-patent-successfully-challenged
00:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/velos-ep-patent-successfully-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/velos-ep-patent-successfully-challenged
00:29 TR Bot; Velos EP patent successfully challenged Unified Patents
00:29 matey; actually you may need y2k to demonstrate why "ill fix the date routines later" is a terrible idea
00:29 matey; they
00:29 matey; PROBABLY thought "oh itll get patched for sure"
00:29 matey; lol
00:30 matey; "no ones going to be running windows xp in 2022" *monkey puppet meme*
00:30 bnchs; hahaha nobody's gonna use the PS3 in 2022
00:30 TR News; Private/public sector revolving doors: "Joe Matal is a former Acting Director and Acting Solicitor of the USPTO and a current partner at Haynes and Boone, where he specializes in PTAB trials and Federal Circuit appeals." https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/04/18/guest-post-a-solution-to-the-opensky-problem/
00:30 TR Bot; Guest Post: A Solution to the OpenSky Problem - Patent Progress
00:30 matey; right? theyll all be using the ps7 by then
00:31 bnchs; nobody's gonna use microsoft exchange server 2016/2019 in 2022
00:31 matey; as if!
00:32 schestowitz-TR; nobody will use a palm pda in 2025
00:32 matey; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4 <- wtf is this?
00:32 schestowitz-TR; microsoft ceo
00:32 schestowitz-TR; getting excited
00:32 matey; nobody will still be rubbing basketball players thighs a year later...
00:32 schestowitz-TR; not even epstein provides access to man-thighs
00:32 matey; ballmer: hold my beer
00:32 schestowitz-TR; so ballmer is using his staff
00:33 matey; thats... different
00:33 schestowitz-TR; after the game
00:33 schestowitz-TR; "honey... I saw that team owner rubbing your thigh... are you telling me everything about your job?"
00:33 matey; ive seen the butt patt between (american) football players, but this seems... excessive
00:34 matey; you sure this isnt faked somehow?
00:34 schestowitz-TR; yes
00:34 schestowitz-TR; it's from TV
00:34 bnchs; "ewwww muscle thighs"
00:34 schestowitz-TR; published by MSM too
00:34 bnchs; "i prefer fat thighs"
00:34 matey; actually for whatever reason
00:34 MinceR; 24 013207 < schestowitz-TR> nobody will use a palm pda in 2025
00:34 matey; it seemed to go on for twice as long the first time i watched it
00:34 MinceR; yeah, because they'll all brick themselves by then :>
00:34 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: lasts you under a year
00:34 MinceR; yeah
00:35 MinceR; well, a year + a month
00:35 schestowitz-TR; maybe a curse of absurdistan
00:35 bnchs; one thing i noticed in smart TVs
00:35 MinceR; if it was under a year, it would have been under warranty
00:35 matey; /me turns on the timer
00:35 bnchs; "smart" TVs
00:35 bnchs; they literally have the worst font rendering i ever seen
00:35 schestowitz-TR; smut tv
00:35 schestowitz-TR; turn it on
00:35 schestowitz-TR; oh, it's ballmert
00:35 bnchs; it's either blurry or pixelated
00:35 bnchs; or both
00:35 MinceR; is it worse than macos yet?
00:35 matey; i guess it goes on for exactly 4 seconds
00:35 schestowitz-TR; cheaply made
00:35 schestowitz-TR; big pixels
00:36 matey; still its an odd gesture
00:36 MinceR; (where every character looks hairy)
00:36 matey; ive never seen that one
00:36 schestowitz-TR; they focus on the overall scale, not the granularity
00:36 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, yes they focus on big pixels
00:36 schestowitz-TR; so you get what you could with a little old TV and massive magnifying glas
00:36 matey; <MinceR> (where every character looks hairy) <- http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
00:36 bnchs; the fonts look like they were upscaled
00:36 schestowitz-TR; that magnifying glass can last you 50 years
00:36 schestowitz-TR; just pass from one TV to the next
00:36 bnchs; in fact the whole interface looks like it was upscaled from 380p
00:36 bnchs; badly
00:36 schestowitz-TR; they used to make these for monitors in the CR era
00:37 schestowitz-TR; it became "uncool"
00:37 bnchs; you can tell the individual pixels in each of the icons
00:37 schestowitz-TR; *CR
00:37 schestowitz-TR; *CRT
00:37 schestowitz-TR; before CRT became some subject of political controversy
00:37 schestowitz-TR; it's also more energy-efficient
00:37 schestowitz-TR; light up 14 inch screen
00:38 schestowitz-TR; magnify
00:38 schestowitz-TR; sit from 3 meters away on sofa
00:38 schestowitz-TR; but it would not sell well
00:38 matey; crt looks wonderful, they mostly fixed the curve in front, but theyre still less healthy and weigh a shittonne
00:38 bnchs; imagine buying a "4k" tv
00:38 bnchs; only for the first thing you see
00:38 schestowitz-TR; marketing for the penis envious
00:38 matey; /me has never seen a tv with a penis
00:38 bnchs; the interface looking like shit
00:38 bnchs; upscaled to fuck
00:38 matey; to be fair there are some interesting looking remote controls
00:39 schestowitz-TR; [00:38] <matey> /me has never seen a tv with a penis
00:39 schestowitz-TR; no, people want big TVs
00:39 bnchs; matey: they put microphone in the remote control
00:39 schestowitz-TR; or big cars
00:39 bnchs; their "AI search"
00:39 schestowitz-TR; "oooh, baby... I have a big one... big TV"
00:39 bnchs; they literally outsourced it to a company called Nuances Communications
00:39 bnchs; microsoft owned company
00:39 schestowitz-TR; for practical purposes they could use a small TV and sit near
00:39 matey; <bnchs> matey: they put microphone in the remote control <- [ insert pun about testing / testes ]
00:39 bnchs; good boy
00:39 schestowitz-TR; or magnify and sit fear
00:39 schestowitz-TR; *far
00:39 schestowitz-TR; or us projector
00:39 schestowitz-TR; *use
00:40 schestowitz-TR; talking is slower than clicking
00:40 matey; /me gets a bigger screen to watch http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4 twice lifesize https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XQJ4v8QkEAw
00:40 TR Bot; Frank's 2000" TV - Invidious
00:40 schestowitz-TR; on a TV you only need very few functions needed routinely
00:40 schestowitz-TR; so you know it's a spying gimmick
00:41 schestowitz-TR; and ity'll drain up the batteries fastere
00:41 bnchs; i've seen better font rendering on a 2007 samsung tv
00:41 schestowitz-TR; and likely have some proprietary battery you cannot replace for pennies
00:41 bnchs; than the same brand's "smart" TV made 10 years later
00:42 schestowitz-TR; > they put microphone in the remote control
00:42 schestowitz-TR; With Nuane they put MICROSOFT in yout controls
00:42 matey; yo dawg we herd you like remotes
00:42 schestowitz-TR; and they have the bug close to your crotch
00:42 matey; so we put a remote in your remote so can control while you control
00:43 bnchs; yo dawg we herd you like things that have internet
00:43 schestowitz-TR; yes, it drains batteries
00:43 schestowitz-TR; speech rec
00:43 bnchs; so we put a wifi chip on your dishwasher
00:43 schestowitz-TR; if not down "on the clown"
00:43 schestowitz-TR; but even on the clown
00:43 schestowitz-TR; you need BT or wifi on all the time
00:43 schestowitz-TR; so the remote needs to switch off
00:43 schestowitz-TR; if you're in bed you need a remote for th remote
00:43 schestowitz-TR; "honey, turn that off"
00:43 schestowitz-TR; "turn off what"?
00:44 schestowitz-TR; "The remote"
00:44 matey; people used to mash the buttons on the intercom where i used to life
00:44 matey; live
00:44 schestowitz-TR; "but if I turn off thee remote, how will I turn on the TV in the morning?"
00:44 matey; so my intercom would go WOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!
00:44 matey; all the time
00:44 matey; so i took the screws out and found a spade connector on the speaker
00:45 matey; and gently removed that and wrapped it in electrical tape
00:45 matey; and someone else can fix it if they want a fucking intercom
00:45 schestowitz-TR; intercoms are at least localised
00:45 schestowitz-TR; we use one at home
00:45 matey; yes it wasnt from NEST or something
00:45 schestowitz-TR; the landline has that function
00:45 matey; i wouldnt even move to a place with NEST
00:45 schestowitz-TR; well, the phone that goes into landline socket
00:46 schestowitz-TR; "INT" function
00:46 matey; the landline has <- this one is one of the old ones thats all wires, no phone no wifi
00:46 matey; like in upstairs downstairs but slightly more modern
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00:46 schestowitz-TR; no modern
00:46 matey; (they just had a bell)
00:46 schestowitz-TR; no want
00:46 schestowitz-TR; do not want!
00:46 schestowitz-TR; it does that it's supposed to do
00:46 matey; well by slightly more modern i mean 1970s
00:46 schestowitz-TR; focus on OTHER problems to solve now
00:46 matey; instead of 1920
00:47 schestowitz-TR; today's intercom probably need an "app"
00:47 matey; they probably do
00:47 schestowitz-TR; "sorry, app not supposed with android < 6.x anymore. Please upgrade.
00:47 schestowitz-TR; "
00:48 matey; but this was pure analogue direct wires, no connection to phone or internet or wifi
00:48 schestowitz-TR; or worse, it stops working completely and the company goes under
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00:48 schestowitz-TR; for a f*ing intercom
00:48 matey; like a VERY fancy doorbell. but still tech available in the 1970s
00:48 matey; /me counts down to mention of matt
00:48 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC is here
00:49 schestowitz-TR; but busy babysitting a 14 year old
00:49 matey; dare i ask
00:49 schestowitz-TR; a very spoiled kid
00:49 matey; marispawn?
00:50 schestowitz-TR; matt is just playing with his doorbell anyway
00:50 schestowitz-TR; no big deal
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00:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm off to work shortl
00:50 bnchs; we don't need "smart" TVs
00:50 bnchs; nobody needs them
00:50 schestowitz-TR; wrtong
00:50 schestowitz-TR; CIA needs them
00:50 bnchs; lol
00:50 schestowitz; https://wikileaks.org/vault7/
00:50 TR Bot; WikiLeaks - Vault 7: Projects
00:50 schestowitz; "Today, April 21st 2017, WikiLeaks publishes the User Guide for CIA's "Weeping Angel" tool - an implant designed for Samsung F Series Smart Televisions. Based on the "Extending" tool from the MI5/BTSS, the implant is designed to record audio from the built-in microphone and egress or store the data."
00:50 matey; vault7, where they keep the cloud
00:51 matey; "this jen, is the cloud"
00:51 schestowitz; there is vault 8
00:51 matey; "the whole cloud?"
00:51 matey; "ues"
00:51 schestowitz; but no clown 9
00:51 bnchs; i have a dumb TV hooked up to a set top-box running some kind of GNU/Linux distribution (OpenPLI)
00:51 matey; "theres no wires or anything"
00:51 matey; "its wireless!"
00:51 schestowitz; https://wikileaks.org/vault8/
00:51 TR Bot; WikiLeaks - Vault 8
00:51 bnchs; and it can do the same amount of things as a "smart" TV can do
00:51 bnchs; without spying or shit
00:51 matey; i have the best kind of tv there is
00:52 matey; 0tv
00:52 matey; its like 0web but from before 1995
00:52 matey; no antenna, no cable, no tv
00:52 schestowitz-TR; you know what tv stands for, right?
00:52 schestowitz-TR; tele-vision
00:52 schestowitz-TR; tele
00:52 schestowitz-TR; distance
00:52 schestowitz-TR; vision
00:52 schestowitz-TR; you are WATCHED
00:52 schestowitz-TR; not watching
00:52 schestowitz-TR; watchede
00:52 bnchs; although the set top-box has a open telnet/FTP/SSH port
00:52 schestowitz-TR; see Vault 7
00:53 schestowitz-TR; finally TVs do what they're called
00:53 bnchs; with (once) passwordless root account
00:53 bnchs; but i changed the root password
00:53 schestowitz-TR; they let corporations and governments watch your home from a distance
00:53 schestowitz-TR; today's "smart" TVs have cameras too
00:53 matey; /me has never heard of a television license, or those vans that have some wwird antenna that can tell if you have a television in your home or anything
00:53 schestowitz-TR; to make sure you're not naughty, not walking away from ads
00:53 schestowitz-TR; "watch and smile to proceed"
00:53 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22041549
00:53 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/n75kz5m99kt81.jpg created on 2022-04-15 19:33:02.404259
00:54 matey; /me has never heard of tempest either
00:54 matey; which can watch your tv screen even if its not in the clown
00:54 SomeH4x0r; Skywave: ^ maybe tell them unless I misremember
00:54 MinceR; i don't they need a weird antenna
00:54 matey; normal antenna then
00:54 SomeH4x0r; TEMPEST iirc a thing you like to talk about
00:54 MinceR; they can just make you let them into your home and sniff around to prove you have no TV until you get tired of this and just pay for a license
00:55 matey; i think tempest is incredibly interesting
00:55 matey; <MinceR> they can just make you let them into your home and sniff around to prove you have no TV <- sure
00:55 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, put the pickle in the burger to proceed
00:55 bnchs; pick up the can
00:55 bnchs; now put it in the trash can
00:55 matey; but theyve had television detection vans in the uk for ages
00:55 SomeH4x0r; hope Skywave is still there, but if not, will try to ping them when you are around
00:56 matey; and its faster than going into every flat i guess
00:56 SomeH4x0r; *here
00:56 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_detector_van
00:56 TR Bot; TV detector van - Wikipedia
00:56 MinceR; and how did they detect whether those TVs received terrestrial TV broadcasts or were displaying signals from a VCR or a computer?
00:56 matey; TV detector vans are vans, which, according to the BBC, contain equipment that can detect the presence of television sets in use. The vans are operated by contractors working for the BBC, to enforce the television licensing system in the UK, the Channel Islands and on the Isle of Man.
00:56 MinceR; also, do those work with LCD and OLED TVs?
00:57 matey; <MinceR> and how did they detect whether <- a. they dont care
00:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I'm trying to find a Gatorback serpentine belt for my car.
00:57 matey; britain is fucking weird
00:57 MinceR; :>
00:57 SomeH4x0r; oh, they did send a message elsewhere
00:57 DaemonFC; They stopped making them and they could make anything shut up.
00:58 matey; the license (or licence) is for owning a tv, not operating it, technically
00:58 matey; and thats how they pay for the beeb
00:58 matey; imo it makes more sense to tax everyone even if they dont use it
00:58 matey; than to tax only people who have a tv, even if they dont use it
00:58 matey; but they go for the latter.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 363.40
00:59 MinceR; ic
00:59 matey; i think its bizarre
00:59 matey; but i guess if you grow up there, maybe it makes some kind of sense ?
00:59 MinceR; yet another argument for abolishing the state
00:59 matey; a weak one, but its a good idea anyway.
01:00 Skywave; did someone say TEMPEST!!!!!
01:00 matey; the state is unnnecessary and costly
01:00 Skywave; >:D
01:00 matey; did someone say TEMPEST!!!!! <- if they did, you should be able to find out with a weird antenna
01:00 matey; >:D <- are those antennae?
01:01 Skywave; xD
01:01 Skywave; probably lmao.
01:01 Skywave; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename) https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Tempest_(codename)
01:01 Skywave; http://tscm.com/TSCM101tempest.html https://cryptome.org/nsa-tempest.htm https://cryptome.org/tempest-old.htm
01:01 Skywave; https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/02/practical_tempe.html 'Four researchers have demonstrated a TEMPEST attack against a laptop, recovering its keys by listening to its electrical emanations. The cost for the attack hardware was about $3,000.'
01:01 TR Bot; Tempest (codename) - Wikipedia
01:01 matey; are you watching us with those?
01:01 Skywave; 'TEAPOT refers to the investigation, study, and control of *intentional compromising emanations such as those hostilely induced or provoked* from telecommunications and computer equipment.'
01:01 TR Bot; Tempest (codename) | Military Wiki | Fandom
01:01 TR Bot; Granite Island Group
01:01 TR Bot; NSA TEMPEST Documents
01:01 TR Bot; How Old IsTEMPEST?
01:01 Skywave; https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Dev/Build_Documentation/Physical_Isolation
01:01 TR Bot; TEMPEST Attack - Schneier on Security
01:01 TR Bot; Build Documentation: Physical Isolation
01:01 Skywave; yes.
01:01 Skywave; i have Total Information Awareness.
01:01 Skywave; https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Daedalus
01:01 Skywave; 'What Daedalus really is, is the world's first successful wholly autonomous AI. Whatever mysterious organization managed to create the first true artificial intelligence succeeded so well that their creation managed to convince them that they'd failed... and then escaped. Today Daedalus' personality its "spirit," if you will suffuses the entire global information network. As a being of pure information, it's not really surprising t
01:01 Skywave; hat Daedalus strongly supports the axiom that "information should be free."'
01:01 TR Bot; Daedalus | Deus Ex Wiki | Fandom
01:01 matey; sounds expensive
01:01 Skywave; > _> split
01:02 matey; deu sex?
01:02 Skywave; oh yes, only 3-letter agencies do that stuff now.
01:02 Skywave; this is no simple van eck phreaking of CRT screens.
01:02 Skywave; desu ex.
01:02 matey; the 3 letter agencies are a front for the FOUR LETTER AGENCIES
01:02 matey; those are the REALLY creepy ones.
01:02 matey; and those are a proxy for the FIVE LETTER AGENCIES
01:02 Skywave; https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/images/screenshot_desu.png
01:02 matey; which no one has even heard of
01:02 matey; including most of the 3 letter agencies
01:02 Skywave; you're right.
01:03 Skywave; i mostly have in mind NSA and CIA.
01:03 Skywave; it is mostly just NSA.
01:03 matey; fbi has their own toy version of tia
01:03 SomeH4x0r; I know FBI also, and some local ones ( in Ukraine, in Russia)
01:03 Skywave; CIA big mad that NSA don't give them tools and know-how.
01:03 Skywave; FBI is not on the level of CIA/NSA i don't think.
01:03 SomeH4x0r; in the USSR
01:03 matey; of course not
01:03 matey; they dont have the budget
01:04 matey; or the experts
01:04 Skywave; KGB->FSB was a fun story to read.
01:04 Skywave; FBI is just more coherent police.
01:04 matey; a thought that should be both comforting and troubling
01:04 matey; mostly the latter
01:05 matey; on the one hand, some competence. on the other hand... some competence.
01:06 Skywave; wait until we get iRoboCops everywhere, lol.
01:06 Skywave; in the proprietary military-intelligence surveillance-capitalist iCorporatocracies of the future, a true technofascist global dictatorship.
01:06 Skywave; my alternative is to make parallel underground societies.
01:06 MinceR; "please put down your weapon. you have 20 seconds to comply."
01:06 Skywave; like the Omar from Deus Ex Invisible War, an underground society of posthumanist cyborgs.
01:06 Skywave; GNU+Smart City, not smart iCity.
01:06 matey; woudlnt perpendicular ones be harder to infiltrate?
01:06 Skywave; no, they'll just use ubiquitous electroweapons.
01:06 Skywave; stun everything in sight, question later.
01:07 matey; /me wants a dumb city, but already has one
01:07 Skywave; any shape can work as long as it is deep down enough.
01:07 matey; i mean its not as dumb as the city before
01:07 *MinceR is in a city of dumb people
01:07 Skywave; i want a global FOSS+openhardware AGI technocracy eventually.
01:07 MinceR; though the other settlements in this country are even dumber
01:07 matey; mincer: except you of course
01:07 Skywave; we are all in a planet of neocortically-advanced monkeys, i think the rest is semantics.
01:07 matey; :>
01:08 MinceR; if only they were advanced
01:08 Skywave; MinceR looks like this https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Exoskeleton
01:08 TR Bot; Exoskeleton | S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Wiki | Fandom
01:08 Skywave; with a bunch of cats.
01:08 MinceR; lol
01:08 Skywave; i'm a vegan non-binary S.T.A.L.K.E.R. so you're in good company.
01:08 matey; if mincer had a cool exoskeleton, he would just bitch about the os it had installed
01:09 matey; of course, so i would i
01:09 Skywave; what OS?
01:09 Skywave; i went ubuntu -> tails -> whonix -> qubes.
01:09 matey; most of that sounds like progress
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01:10 Skywave; i am a libertarian eco-cybercommunist and a posthumanist, progress is my middle name.
01:10 matey; #techrights : 04/24/22 00:07 <Skywave> <- fsvo "advanced"
01:10 MinceR; most of it sounds like crap
01:10 goose; hello
01:10 MinceR; hay
01:10 matey; <MinceR> most of it sounds like crap <- when you actually use it, yes
01:11 Skywave; most software is bad that's true.
01:11 Skywave; i generally despise linux.
01:11 Skywave; but i still had to learn bash.
01:11 matey; no you could have used pdksh
01:12 matey; dont let your friends learn bash (first)
01:13 matey; let them see how simple pdksh is, then if they want to spend hours fighting with a single whitespace character, give them a copy of bash too
01:13 matey; "I FOUND IT!"
01:13 matey; "what is it, a golden ticket?"
01:13 DaemonFC; https://www.autozone.com/cooling-heating-and-climate-control/belt/p/continental-belt-4060905/190805_0_0
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01:13 matey; "NO, I FOUND THE EXACT BYTE THAT WAS CAUSING MY BASH SCRIPT TO FUCK UP!"
01:13 DaemonFC; There we go. They claim this is as quiet at the gatorback.
01:14 DaemonFC; Continental apparently bought them.
01:14 matey; (it was the part where i didnt grep -v the file was writing to) HYPOTHETICALLY I MEAN
01:14 SomeH4x0r; so now I actually go to sleep, see you tomorrow
01:14 matey; o/
01:15 Skywave; bash is what i know, and if i send something to someone to show them something, that will get them down the bash pipeline unavoidably. i don't think bash is that terrible, but it is only meant for within-linux usage certainly, where it is ubiquitous. i have used zsh a bit.
01:15 Skywave; cya SomeH4x0r.
01:15 matey; i don't think bash is that terrible <- its not, until you realise how fucking terrible it is
01:15 Skywave; probably yes.
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01:16 Skywave; i still can use it to do the things i want to do.
01:16 matey; so could i
01:16 Skywave; i make my own scripts to crawl websites, things like that.
01:16 matey; but i spent a lot of time fighting with it
01:16 MinceR; if they didn't want to fight with whitespace, why did they decide to write a shell script?
01:16 Skywave; it is even possible i've gotten used to the terrible and would find a cleaner language annoying.
01:16 matey; until i realised that shells arent all like that
01:16 Skywave; yes, exactly. you fight with bash all the time, lol.
01:16 Skywave; IFS=$'\n'
01:17 matey; if they didn't want to fight with whitespace, why did they decide to write a shell script? <- all scripts have issues with whitespace, bash just has more issues with everything
01:17 Skywave; i argued with someone on OFTC about whether all variables should be quoted or not.
01:17 matey; you can still fix it, its just more demanding
01:17 Skywave; there are scripts everywhere on debian that don't have quoted variables.
01:17 matey; its the shell version of madeline kahn in young frankenstein
01:17 MinceR; not all scripts rely on string manipulation as much as shell scripts do
01:18 matey; i love string manipulation, just not in bash
01:18 MinceR; :>
01:18 Skywave; bash and GNU+Linux in general are a kind of tool for self-punishment used by kinky people i think.
01:18 Skywave; strings in bash can be manipulated from builtin commands easily.
01:18 matey; bash and GNU+Linux in general are a kind of tool for self-punishment used by kinky people i think <- said this the other day
01:18 MinceR; misguided kinky people, perha
01:18 MinceR; sthere there are far more punishing OS-es around than that
01:18 Skywave; a=test; echo ${a^^}
01:19 MinceR; s/rha/rhaps/
01:19 matey; that the software industry targets mostly those into bdsm
01:19 MinceR; s/^st/t/
01:19 matey; wait, i was saying apple
01:19 matey; apple designs players for people into tph
01:19 Skywave; i'm not even into BDSM but i do think there's something wrong with people who can tolerate such abuse.
01:19 matey; but i do think there's something wrong with people who can tolerate such abuse. <- i think its fine as long as theres consent
01:20 Skywave; operating systems shouldn't make the users cry in frustration.
01:20 matey; but the industry fudges on consent a bit
01:20 Skywave; there's no consent, only Window$ and some kind of lunix.
01:20 matey; i keep shouting my safeword at windows but the beatings continue
01:20 matey; systemd is no better
01:20 Skywave; i only use windows offline for games, there's no problem there.
01:21 matey; its ironic that the system farthest from the bdsm of the industry is called "bsd"
01:22 Skywave; if people could use physical isolation everywhere maybe the BSDs would be the better choice, sure.
01:22 Skywave; as it is whonix is just a collection of scripts.
01:22 matey; theres also midnight bsd and mirbsd
01:22 Skywave; someone told me about QuBSD the other day.
01:22 matey; either of which could be called mbsd
01:22 matey; QuBSD <- qubes with a bsd kernel? (i doubt it, but thats what it sounds like)
01:22 Skywave; i had tried pc-bsd & openbsd at some point.
01:22 Skywave; no, Qubes-like functionality in freebsd.
01:23 matey; ok
01:23 Skywave; https://github.com/BawdyAnarchist/quBSD
01:23 Skywave; *quBSD
01:23 matey; always on github
01:23 Skywave; yes, it's annoying.
01:24 matey; if people could use physical isolation everywhere maybe the BSD <- what does that have to do with it?
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01:25 Skywave; because as it stands projects like whonix and qubes are linux-only.
01:26 Skywave; the more you increase transaction costs the fewer people will bother.
01:26 Skywave; i can be bothered to set up whonix on debian in systems without VT-d, and qubes in systems with it.
01:26 Skywave; if i had to spend a few weeks to set a system up it would be done over months as a side-project.
01:26 Skywave; i am boomer, i don't tolerate too much experimentation any longer.
01:27 Skywave; if something does not work as i've gotten used to it, i get very annoyed very quickly.
01:27 Skywave; i think whonix/qubes are a reasonable-enough default for several people, that can be learned with tolerable hassle.
01:28 Skywave; shifting everything to BSDs in normal systems, say someone recreating whonix in FreeBSD, that might be a side-project.
01:28 Skywave; right now i can tell people, install virtualbox and try whonix wherever just to familiarize yourself with it.
01:29 Skywave; i am not a computer enthusiast, all of that is highly annoying to me and i do it only because i have to.
01:29 Skywave; i like digital technologies but most software and hardware is made in a way that ends up being highly frustrating having to deal with.
01:29 Skywave; things change and break all the time, other things improve, everything changes constantly. it is always an uphill battle.
01:30 Skywave; in the future i would like some AI that would write things based upon human instruction so people wouldn't even need to learn how to code.
01:30 Skywave; there are already some tools that do these things.
01:31 Skywave; too much hardware, too much software, too many choices, nothing working properly everywhere. who wants that?
01:33 matey; so people wouldn't even need to learn how to code. <- do one better, make books write themselves so no one has to do that either
01:33 matey; i think orwell talked about how it can be done
01:34 DaemonFC; <Skywave> operating systems shouldn't make the users cry in frustration.
01:34 matey; i agree with that part
01:34 DaemonFC; They have demo laptops at Walmart with Windows 11 on them.
01:34 DaemonFC; I tried one today. It's obvious that they are trying to make it look and feel like a Chromebook now.
01:34 matey; the reason people cry in frustration is excessive complexity and you want more of it
01:35 matey; theres always some abtraction as saviour that comes to liberate the user from using anything
01:35 matey; and then the user becomes the used
01:35 matey; and its never better
01:35 matey; what you see today is the tension between revolution and counterrevolution
01:35 DaemonFC; Well, since part of the cooling system had to come out anyway on my car, I specified that they replace the PVC that GM used with metal coolant pipe elbows.
01:35 matey; the counterrevolution is always worse than the revolution itself
01:36 DaemonFC; So there's some fewer opportunities for a coolant leak in the future.
01:36 MinceR; so i guess the campaign against chromebooks failed :>
01:36 matey; computers and books require literacy
01:36 matey; you can have them without that
01:36 matey; and you lose something important then
01:37 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yeah, Microsoft is trying to sell Windows 10 in S mode as a locked down Chromebook-like thing for schools.
01:37 matey; you lose the opportunity to speak for yourself, relatively
01:37 DaemonFC; Err, 11.
01:37 DaemonFC; Same thing.
01:37 DaemonFC; 11 is just 10 with a Chromebook-like shell.
01:37 matey; or you lose control of your computing, which means that the publishers gain control of users
01:37 matey; im very much in favour of making coding easier
01:38 matey; but not so easy that you dont need to code, for the same reason im not trying to eliminate books
01:38 matey; not so easy that you dont need to code <- not so easy that nobody needs to
01:38 Skywave; i like how in the matrix, knowledge just gets flashed into brains.
01:38 DaemonFC; My car's computer is telling me that with my driving I should expect the oil to be good for qbout 5,600 miles.
01:38 Skywave; that's the idea.
01:38 Skywave; ideal*
01:38 matey; thats a fucking terrible idea
01:38 DaemonFC; Which is 600 miles longer than the dealer's oil change sticker says.
01:38 Skywave; it is what is going on in human civilization, but only slower.
01:39 matey; no
01:39 Skywave; they add ideas to people's brains and send them to exterminate each other.
01:39 Skywave; US does it best right now.
01:39 matey; people are able to question it
01:39 matey; poorly, but nonetheless
01:39 Skywave; and those with weapons are able to murder them regardless.
01:39 matey; which is why everyone should be armed
01:39 Skywave; yes, armed and knowledgeable.
01:39 matey; yes
01:39 Skywave; a posthumanist society of cyborgs.
01:40 matey; if you like
01:40 Skywave; it is how i meme but i want to remove as much power from everything as possible. the way to do that is to forcibly equalize things, in Deus Ex Helios uses ubiquitous nanite biomod infusions to turn everyone into 200IQ geniuses.
01:41 matey; personally im glad that when i replace a keyboard, it doesnt require surgery
01:41 MinceR; 24 023906 < Skywave> they add ideas to people's brains and send them to exterminate each other.
01:41 MinceR; that doesn't depend on "flashing" "knowledge" into brains
01:41 MinceR; religion has been doing this for millennia
01:41 matey; i want to remove as much power from everything as possible. the way to do that is to forcibly equalize things <- thats the dumbest (and least libertarian) kind of communism i can think of
01:41 Skywave; same thing. religion is a technology to brainwash people.
01:41 Skywave; it is possible to brainwash people for good things as well, but then that's called education.
01:41 MinceR; i see it more as a memetic pathogen
01:41 Skywave; brainwashing undoes brain-dirtying.
01:42 MinceR; people aren't always in control of religion
01:42 Skywave; i think the religions of the future should be techno-ascensionist.
01:42 Skywave; right.
01:42 Skywave; religion is a technology that hasn't been updated in like 5000 years.
01:42 Skywave; there are certain brain regions associated with religious experience that i want to utilize.
01:42 matey; its a patchy system
01:42 Skywave; this can be optimized and scientifically studied, how it promotes group cohesion, functional behavior-patterns.
01:43 matey; you should call this "new age stalinism"
01:43 Skywave; the need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by god. now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
01:43 matey; because thats what it sounds like
01:43 Skywave; i don't think humans should worship other humans.
01:44 matey; neither did stalin
01:45 matey; it promotes group cohesion <- so do chain gangs
01:45 Skywave; i am thinking of monastic orders of engineers.
01:45 Skywave; like the Knights Templar, or the Pythagoreans, or the Essenes.
01:45 Skywave; these can be different groups, separate from each other.
01:46 Skywave; i want decentralization, but everyone uses FOSS+openhardware, by force.
01:46 matey; at any rate, im going to call it new age technostalinism
01:46 Skywave; i'll read up on Stalinism more and tell you what i think.
01:46 MinceR; unfortunately, those "data-mining algorithms" tend to be owned by corporations
01:46 Skywave; yes, it has to be made by hackerspaces.
01:46 Skywave; a global network of hackerspaces.
01:46 Skywave; most people will self-assimilate into iCorporatocracy.
01:46 Skywave; i refuse to enable JavaScript or use cellphones.
01:48 matey; <Skywave> i want decentralization <- what youre describing has nothing to do with decentralisation
01:48 Skywave; this was a Deus Ex quote btw. from https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Morpheus
01:48 Skywave; it doesn't? how so?
01:48 Skywave; maybe i am not describing my view properly.
01:48 matey; its completely enforced in a top-down fasion
01:48 Skywave; i want people to use their own narrow AI systems everywhere.
01:48 matey; fashion
01:49 Skywave; yes, people have the choice to implement their top-down control systems in their own groups.
01:49 Skywave; the only freedom human beings have, is in choosing what kinds of systems they exist in.
01:49 matey; so youre decentralising top-down control?
01:49 Skywave; therefore, different networks will implement their own AI systems.
01:50 Skywave; that's a decent way of putting it. decentralized voluntary top-down AI control.
01:50 matey; the only freedom human beings have, is in choosing what kinds of systems they exist in. <- that sounds like a very stilted generalisation
01:50 matey; how is it voluntary?
01:50 Skywave; you choose GNU+microchip instead of iChip.
01:50 Skywave; i use XMPP and not Discord.
01:50 matey; "but everyone uses FOSS+openhardware, by force"
01:50 Skywave; that comes later.
01:50 matey; how do they choose whats "by force"
01:51 matey; that comes later. <- this isnt communism
01:51 matey; you have it backwards
01:51 Skywave; assuming the GNU side wins.
01:51 matey; it isnt libertarian either
01:51 Skywave; people are free to join.
01:51 Skywave; i don't think there will be free-range humans on this planet.
01:52 Skywave; it will be the corporate dystopia, and underground FOSS-style societies.
01:52 MinceR; fine, i'll settle for vat-grown
01:52 Skywave; that would also be good yes.
01:52 Skywave; clone quadrillions of isolated-brain cylinders.
01:52 Skywave; i see human brains as hardware on which we put certain software for specific ends.
01:53 Skywave; i want lots and lots of STEM.
01:53 Skywave; these brains are armed with knowledge that makes them build technologies of creation, destruction, control, liberation.
01:53 Skywave; everything moves to a certain point, generally evolution, higher intelligence.
01:53 Skywave; this is not going to remain a planet of the apes for all eternity. i do not glorify my monkey nature.
01:54 matey; monkeys havent done half the stupid things humans have
01:54 Skywave; yes.
01:54 Skywave; we are neocortically-advanced monkeys, that's why we're worse.
01:54 Skywave; the more intelligence you add to a monkey, the worse it chimps out.
01:54 matey; so youre going to fight fire with fire?
01:54 Skywave; oh no. i think we'll eventually build artificial general intelligence.
01:55 Skywave; as Einstein said, one can't solve a problem at the same level in which it was created.
01:55 Skywave; human problems can not be solved by human beings.
01:55 matey; and yet here you are trying to do so
01:55 Skywave; i have to start somewhere, of course.
01:55 matey; human problems can not be solved by human beings. <- like hiv for example
01:55 Skywave; AGI doesn't bootstrap itself.
01:55 Skywave; i mean real problems, existential problems.
01:56 Skywave; these are trivial within-humanity problems in comparison to beyond-humanity concerns.
01:56 matey; im pretty sure einstein didnt say what you think he did
01:56 matey; and even more certain he didnt mean what you think he meant
01:56 Skywave; i'll find the quote.
01:56 matey; i know the quote
01:56 matey; its not what you said
01:57 matey; and well, he said " one can't solve a problem at the same level in which it was created."
01:57 matey; the rest is... whatever you think that means
01:57 matey; he never said humans cant solve (existential) human problems
01:57 matey; in fact he encouraged people to do exactly that
01:58 matey; he certainly wouldnt have said that humanity can solve everything with an ai that was human created
01:58 matey; im sure he would have thought that was nonsense
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 290.98
01:59 matey; letting machines think for us is the solution?
01:59 matey; no, i dont think so
02:00 matey; probably the dumbest thing you could do with an ai
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02:03 Skywave; 'A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move toward higher levels.'
02:03 Skywave; that is the actual quote, the others are transformations/misattributions.
02:03 Skywave; a new type of thinking.
02:03 Skywave; that's even better!
02:03 Skywave; like, machine intelligence kind of thinking.
02:04 Skywave; humans find patterns. i don't see magic in human brains and pattern recognition, any better than what algorithms could do at some point.
02:05 Skywave; just like i do not see any magic in procreation. it is DNA, and there can be artificial wombs, same-sex and multiple-partner offspring, sperm/eggs from skin cells.
02:05 Skywave; that will generate an enormous amount of chaos
02:05 Skywave; disrupt all kinds of traditional conceptions of reality.
02:05 MinceR; 24 025424 < Skywave> the more intelligence you add to a monkey, the worse it chimps out.
02:05 MinceR; not so sure about that
02:06 MinceR; consider that bonobos do not "chimp out" nearly as much as chimpanzees do
02:06 Skywave; yes, increasing intelligence is actually correlated with more nuanced morality.
02:06 Skywave; the point is taken from Vernor Vinge among others.
02:07 Skywave; his idea is that human beings have a lot of previous animalistic templates that are pretty violent.
02:07 Skywave; so we have nuclear weapons.
02:07 Skywave; that is chimping out on the planetary scale.
02:07 Skywave; it is possible that the genetic modification of an entirely new species would be more favorable to AGI interfacing.
02:08 Skywave; the humans that would maintain these machines would all be fit for a mental asylum in our days.
02:08 Skywave; and vice-versa.
02:08 Skywave; Eloi/Morlok basically.
02:08 Skywave; i think we're going to see several speciation-level events.
02:08 Skywave; Human 2.0.
02:08 Skywave; iHuman vs GNU+Human.
02:08 Skywave; DIY CRISPR et.al.
02:09 Skywave; 'It is easier to denature plutonium than it is to denature the evil spirit of man.'
02:09 Skywave; xD
02:09 Skywave; i think Einstein would've been pro-AGI just fine.
02:10 Skywave; maybe not a posthumanist, but probably sympathetic to transhumanism and narrow AI at the very least.
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02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-230422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-230422.txt
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-230422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-230422.txt
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:05 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 282430 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40281 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 14 days ago
03:06 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 14 GB TotalOut: 3.1 GB
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 IPFS; Qmdi6KmxktEbkwsxpoVUymukiJMVcBzPGPMGpwRC53dkPc
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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05:19 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, April 23, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
05:19 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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05:23 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
05:26 TR News; "universe sent you here so I can help you. Youre welcome" https://danielmiessler.com/blog/removing-m-characters/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
05:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/removing-m-characters/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/removing-m-characters/
05:26 TR Bot; Removing ^M Characters - Daniel Miessler
05:27 TR News; "Recently, I started doing a while bunch of new models in SketchUp, and I always try to only use my own components," https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/sketchup-helix.html | Source: Dedoimedo
05:27 TR Bot; How to create a coil spring (helix) in SketchUp
05:30 TR News; "The videos are published on Peertube, but you are free to reupload them on YouTube if you want to, the licence permits it." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-04-23-openbsd-video-tutorial-installation.html | Source: Data Swamp
05:30 TR Bot; Solene'% : Video guide to install OpenBSD 7.1 with the GNOME desktop
05:30 TR News; "When reaching a website, most web browsers will send a header (some metadata about the requestion) informing the web server that you supported compressed..." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-04-22-openbsd-httpd-gzip.html | Source: Data Swamp
05:30 TR Bot; Solene'% : Reduce httpd web server bandwidth usage by serving compressed files
05:31 TR News; "Ubuntu, the one-time-king of Linux distributions, is facing a massive decline in marketshare." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-facing-declining-marketshare | Source: Bryan Lunduke
05:31 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-facing-declining-marketshare https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-facing-declining-marketshare
05:31 TR Bot; Ubuntu, facing declining marketshare, doubles down on most hated feature
05:32 TR News; "Spy home company Insteon has shut off its servers, lost its management team" https://staceyoniot.com/the-end-of-insteon-and-why-the-smart-home-keeps-faltering/ |
05:32 TR Bot; The end of Insteon and why the smart home keeps faltering - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
05:34 TR News; "In celebration of Earth Day, we thought it would be fun to highlight a handful of open-source projects that may inspire you" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/22/celebrate-earth-day-with-these-arduino-projects/ | Source: Arduino
05:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/22/celebrate-earth-day-with-these-arduino-projects/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/22/celebrate-earth-day-with-these-arduino-projects/
05:34 TR Bot; Celebrate Earth Day with these Arduino projects | Arduino Blog
05:34 TR News; "The T700 motherboard had a busy few months of testing and prototyping. The main problems right now are the BIOS and the embedded controller (EC)," https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/t700-part-2-minor-progress-update/ | Source: XueYao
05:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xyte.ch | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/t700-part-2-minor-progress-update/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/t700-part-2-minor-progress-update/
05:34 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/t700-part-2-minor-progress-update/ )
05:34 TR News; OpenPOWER https://www.talospace.com/2022/04/tonights-game-on-openpower-death-rally.html | Source: Talospace
05:34 TR Bot; Tonight's game on OpenPOWER: Death Rally
05:56 TR News; Qualcomm and MediaTek https://www.phonearena.com/news/security-vulnerabilities-on-qualcomm-mediatek-chips-are-patched_id139799 | Source: Phone Arena
05:56 TR Bot; of Android phones were at risk for a remote attack until late last year - PhoneArena
05:56 TR News; "Qualcomm and MediaTek, two of the largest vendors of mobile chips for Android smartphones" https://oicanadian.com/flaw-in-the-open-source-version-of-apples-alac-format-millions-of-android-smartphones-at-risk/ | Source: OI Canadian
05:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: oicanadian.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://oicanadian.com/flaw-in-the-open-source-version-of-apples-alac-format-millions-of-android-smartphones-at-risk/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://oicanadian.com/flaw-in-the-open-source-version-of-apples-alac-format-millions-of-android-smartphones-at-risk/
05:56 TR Bot; Flaw in the open-source version of Apples ALAC format: millions of Android smartphones at risk - OI Canadian
05:57 TR News; "So Im not providing the entire spec I wrote, because that would be too confusing for the reader. But itll still be more interesting" https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/update-on-learntla-and-a-new-writing-process/ | Source: Buttondown
05:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: buttondown.email | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/update-on-learntla-and-a-new-writing-process/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/update-on-learntla-and-a-new-writing-process/
05:57 TR Bot; Update on Learntla and a new writing process Buttondown
05:57 TR News; "Soon enough, programmers realized that they needed to not only to store files, but also to keep track of the different versions of a given file" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/04/21/an-overview-of-version-control-in-programming/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
05:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lemire.me | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lemire.me/blog/2022/04/21/an-overview-of-version-control-in-programming/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lemire.me/blog/2022/04/21/an-overview-of-version-control-in-programming/
05:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/04/21/an-overview-of-version-control-in-programming/ )
05:57 TR News; "At one point a few years into my GTD journey, I actually managed to do it all, to reach zero, and nothing happened." https://idiomdrottning.org/postponing | Source: Idiomdrottning
05:57 TR Bot; Postponing things is good
05:58 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D569.jpg
05:58 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D211.jpg
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 64.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 302.63
05:59 TR News; Reframing thinking (ADHD) gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/55
05:59 TR News; Windows Cannot Error gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/error01.gmi
06:00 TR News; "Instead of looking up how to spell a word, I always look up the Etymology. I don't know Latin or Greek, or any other languages, but a lot of the time, I'll find a link to some other English word, which the spelling make sense." gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/spelling_history.gmi
06:01 TR News; First Year on SDF gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220423.txt
06:02 TR News; An end-to-end test on a SpringBoot app gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-24_An_end_to_end_test_on_a_SpringBoot_app.gmi
06:03 TR News; "I think the only reason people hate work from office is because they hate work. spending 8 hours+ a day alone in front of a computer is objectively bad and unhealthy I think." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
06:03 TR News; EPO and Belarus: Why It Matters | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-and-belarus/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-and-belarus/
06:03 TR Bot; EPO and Belarus: Why It Matters | Techrights
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06:30 psydruid; > [notice] lunduke.substack.com | Ubuntu, facing declining marketshare, doubles down on most hated feature
06:30 psydruid; Ubuntu is the new bug number 1
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07:12 TR News; "Ubuntu 22.04 LTS has just been released and is on our minds, because we have a lot of Ubuntu 18.04 machines to upgrade to 22.04 in the next year." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/Ubuntu2204PythonState | Source: uni Toronto
07:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/Ubuntu2204PythonState https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/Ubuntu2204PythonState
07:12 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/Ubuntu2204PythonState
07:13 TR News; "Although some see the shell as primitive, this manner of interacting with a computer is extremely flexible and expressive." https://klarasystems.com/articles/interacting-with-freebsd-learning-the-fundamentals-of-the-freebsd-shell-2/ | Source: Klara
07:13 TR Bot; Interacting with FreeBSD Learning the Fundamentals of the FreeBSD Shell | Klara Inc.
07:13 TR News; "The sense of relief in the AT&T CEOs voice came in crystal clear even through the tinny webcast audio" https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-att-john-stankey-streaming-1235239476/ | Source: Variety
07:13 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-att-john-stankey-streaming-1235239476/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-att-john-stankey-streaming-1235239476/
07:13 TR Bot; AT&T May Become a Winner in the Streaming Wars - Variety
07:15 TR News; "Docker sits proudly atop its niche, with an estimated 83 percent of the container software market." https://earthly.dev/blog/docker-alternatives/ | Source: Earthly
07:15 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/docker-alternatives/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/docker-alternatives/
07:15 TR Bot; Exploring Docker Alternatives - Earthly Blog
07:15 TR News; "price for this model in this configuration is 3,500 US dollars, and those who pay extra, up to $ 4,099, receive extras and premium technical support" https://www.royalsblue.com/razer-has-announced-tensorbook-a-linux-laptop-for-ai-development-and-research/ |
07:15 TR Bot; Razer has announced Tensorbook, a Linux laptop for AI development and research - Royals Blue
07:16 TR News; "A 3D printer that uses lasers to build up an object in any order, rather than layer by layer, could produce more advanced designs" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2316746-laser-based-3d-printer-can-produce-complex-objects-in-any-order/ | Source: New Scientist
07:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newscientist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2316746-laser-based-3d-printer-can-produce-complex-objects-in-any-order/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2316746-laser-based-3d-printer-can-produce-complex-objects-in-any-order/
07:16 TR Bot; 3D printing: Laser-based technique produces complex objects in any order | New Scientist
07:16 TR News; "My favorite internet service provider, init7, is rolling out faster speeds with their infrastructure upgrade." https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/ | Source: Michael Stapelberg
07:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: stapelberg.ch | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/
07:16 TR Bot; My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home - Michael Stapelberg
07:30 TR News; Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/overnights/3460440-hillicon-valley-ukraine-postal-service-hit-with-cyberattack/ | Source: The Hill
07:30 TR Bot; Hillicon Valley Ukraine postal service hit with cyberattack | The Hill
07:30 TR News; "Ihor Smilianskyi, Ukrposhta's director general, issued an apology to customers for what he said was a DDoS" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-postal-service-hit-by-cyberattack-after-sales-warship-stamp-go-online-2022-04-22/ | Source: Reuters
07:30 TR Bot; postal service hit by cyberattack after sales of warship stamp go online | Reuters
07:30 TR News; Windows TCO https://gigaom.com/2022/04/19/ransomware-why-its-time-to-think-of-it-as-a-data-management-problem/ |
↺ https://gigaom.com/2022/04/19/ransomware-why-its-time-to-think-of-it-as-a-data-management-problem/
07:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gigaom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gigaom.com/2022/04/19/ransomware-why-its-time-to-think-of-it-as-a-data-management-problem/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://gigaom.com/2022/04/19/ransomware-why-its-time-to-think-of-it-as-a-data-management-problem/
07:30 TR Bot; Why Its Time to Think of it as a Data Management Problem - GigaOm
07:35 TR News; "So, to recap, in an effort to take a slide show that had been plainly visible in the front of the classroom" https://quillette.com/2022/04/22/hidden-in-plain-sight-why-we-should-stop-putting-tech-before-teaching/ | Source: Quillette
07:35 TR Bot; Hidden in Plain Sight: Putting Tech Before Teaching
07:35 TR News; "In my opinion, the way we deal with (non-free) firmware in Debian is a mess," https://blog.einval.com/2022/04/19#firmware-what-do-we-do |
07:35 TR Bot; Steve's blog
07:35 TR News; "The question: will users care?" https://matt-rickard.com/permissionless-reckoning/ | Source: Matt Rickard
07:35 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/permissionless-reckoning/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/permissionless-reckoning/
07:35 TR Bot; Permissionless Reckoning
07:36 TR News; "Im working on merging the X230 FHD patch (finally) into coreboot master. More info can be found on my X230 BIOS repo." https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/x2100-x330-and-future-projects/ | Source: XueYao
07:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xyte.ch | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/x2100-x330-and-future-projects/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/x2100-x330-and-future-projects/
07:36 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.xyte.ch/2022/04/23/x2100-x330-and-future-projects/ )
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07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.61
08:25 TR News; "Interesting implementation mistake: [...]" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/java-cryptography-implementation-mistake-allows-digital-signature-forgeries.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
08:25 TR Bot; Cryptography Implementation Mistake Allows Digital-Signature Forgeries - Schneier on Security
08:25 TR News; "were focusing on the bugs in Oracles Java product" https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/04/20/critical-cryptographic-java-security-blunder-patched-update-now/ | Source: Naked Security
08:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: sophos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/04/20/critical-cryptographic-java-security-blunder-patched-update-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2022/04/20/critical-cryptographic-java-security-blunder-patched-update-now/
08:25 TR Bot; Critical cryptographic Java security blunder patched update now! Naked Security
08:28 TR News; "The French Presidency of the Council is seeking EU-wide comparisons of every DNA profile held by police forces" https://www.statewatch.org/news/2022/april/eu-policing-france-proposes-massive-eu-wide-dna-sweep-automated-exchange-of-facial-images/ | Source: State Watch
08:28 TR Bot; Statewatch | EU: Policing: France proposes massive EU-wide DNA sweep, automated exchange of facial images
08:30 TR News; Octopus 1.3.0 Is Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164073 | Source: SequoiaPGP
08:30 TR Bot; Octopus 1.3.0 is Released | Tux Machines
08:34 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164072
08:34 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:38 TR News; "figured out the reason I have been out of it even though covid is "over" is that during covid I became extremely inward-focused, developing ideas and projects in isolation, working on my career, etc. I became less interested in other people because I was so focused on myself" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
08:40 TR News; Scared of programming gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/blog-2022-04-24-Scared-of-programming.gmi
08:41 TR News; "Here's someone from Europe who was interested in reading a story about a person in a small US (United States) town [3] and yet, they couldn't because the owners of the news website (which isn't owned locally, but instead by a larger company in another state [4]) probably doesn't care about European readers." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/23.2
08:44 TR News; "He explained that Muslims dont want to terrorize people but convert them to Islam." https://www.jns.org/islamic-scholar-in-gaza-goal-of-jihad-make-people-convert-to-islam/ | Source: JNS
08:44 TR Bot; Islamic scholar in Gaza: Goal of jihad? Make people convert to Islam
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08:57 TR News; "Users who receive [cryptocurrency] payments can hold their earnings in [cryptocurrency] wallets on the Polygon network" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/twitter-stripe-pilot-cryptocurrency-payments-for-creators/91019957 | Source: India Times
08:57 TR Bot; Twitter Cryptocurrency: Twitter, Stripe pilot cryptocurrency payments for creators, CIO News, ET CIO
08:57 TR News; "But it is precisely the latter, Bitcoins hunger for energy, that is becoming a global problem." https://netzpolitik.org/2022/climate-measures-behind-closed-doors-eu-officials-talk-about-banning-bitcoin/ | Source: Netzpolitik
08:57 TR Bot; Climate measures: Behind closed doors, EU officials talk about banning Bitcoin
08:58 TR News; Octopus 1.3.0 is Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164073
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 251.33
08:59 TR News; "The Digital Services Act, one half of an overhaul for the 27-nation blocs digital rulebook, helps cement Europes reputation" https://thehill.com/policy/3460785-eu-law-targets-big-tech-over-hate-speech-disinformation/ | The Hill should not say "Big Tech"; it helps Microsoft criminals by doing so
08:59 TR Bot; EU law targets Big Tech over hate speech, disinformation | The Hill
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09:00 TR News; "The EU has agreed on another ambitious piece of legislation to police the online world" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/23/23036976/eu-digital-services-act-finalized-algorithms-targeted-advertising | Source: The Verge
09:00 TR Bot; Google, Meta, and others will have to explain their algorithms under new EU legislation - The Verge
09:01 TR News; "Greene was confronted with several of her social media posts on the issue while on the stan" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-testimony-jan-6-protests-1341795/ | Source: Rolling Stone
09:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-testimony-jan-6-protests-1341795/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-testimony-jan-6-protests-1341795/
09:01 TR Bot; Marjorie Taylor Greene Testimony Is Full of Denials and Deflections - Rolling Stone
09:01 TR News; Social control media https://www.salon.com/2022/04/22/marjorie-taylor-greene-denies-calling-for-pelosis-execution-during-trial-then-backtracks/ | Source: Salon
09:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/22/marjorie-taylor-greene-denies-calling-for-pelosis-execution-during-trial-then-backtracks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/22/marjorie-taylor-greene-denies-calling-for-pelosis-execution-during-trial-then-backtracks/
09:01 TR Bot; Taylor Greene denies calling for Pelosi's execution during trial, then backtracks | Salon.com
09:08 TR News; Spotify -- like Netfix -- is DRM bubble/pipe dream https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/joe-rogan-spotify-subscribers-1235134232/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
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09:08 TR Bot; Joe Rogan Claims Massive Subscriber Boost Due to Recent Controversy The Hollywood Reporter
09:09 TR News; Eliot Higgins https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pro-russia-social-media-accounts-fake-zelensky-cocaine-video-1342178/ | Source: Rolling Stone
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09:09 TR Bot; Pro-Russia Accounts Spread Obviously Fake Zelensky Cocaine Video - Rolling Stone
09:09 TR News; "While some of its fact-checks are genuine, it includes false information" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-61176372 | Source: BBC
09:09 TR Bot; Ukraine war: How a school survivor became a target of Russian disinformation - BBC News
09:10 TR News; Social control media = disinformation boom https://www.axios.com/barack-obama-disinformation-social-media-f940933f-993d-489b-a476-f7885a13c871.html | Source: Axios
09:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: axios.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/barack-obama-disinformation-social-media-f940933f-993d-489b-a476-f7885a13c871.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.axios.com/barack-obama-disinformation-social-media-f940933f-993d-489b-a476-f7885a13c871.html
09:10 TR Bot; Obama: Disinformation is killing people
09:11 TR News; Social control media should just stop existing. No beneficial contribution to society. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/twitter-bans-ads-contradict-science-climate-change-84260252 | Source: ABC
09:11 TR Bot; Twitter bans ads that contradict science on climate change - ABC News
09:11 TR News; "We believe that climate denialism shouldnt be monetized on Twitter" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/22/23037677/twitter-bans-climate-change-misinformation-ads | Source: The Verge
09:11 TR Bot; Twitter bans misleading ads about climate change - The Verge
09:11 TR News; "The premise that disinformation is among the biggest threats to democracy" https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/anti-disinformation-laws-social-media/629612/ | Source: The Atlantic
09:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/anti-disinformation-laws-social-media/629612/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/anti-disinformation-laws-social-media/629612/
09:11 TR Bot; How 'Big Disinformation' Can Overcome Its Skeptics - The Atlantic
09:12 TR News; CORRECT: "The very design of these platforms seems to be tilting us in the wrong direction" https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/obama-slams-misinformation-on-social-media-people-are-dying/ | Source: CNET
09:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/obama-slams-misinformation-on-social-media-people-are-dying/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/obama-slams-misinformation-on-social-media-people-are-dying/
09:12 TR Bot; Slams Misinformation on Social Media: 'People Are Dying' - CNET
09:14 TR News; Censorship https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-digital-services-act-industry-and-government-interests-prevail-over-citizens-digital-rights/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
09:14 TR Bot; EU Digital Services Act: Industry and government interests prevail over citizens digital rights Patrick Breyer
09:19 TR News; "arrested in August 2021 along with freelance journalist" https://www.voanews.com/a/myanmar-indicts-voa-contributor-over-critical-analysis/6541299.html | Source: VOA News
09:19 TR Bot; Myanmar Indicts VOA Contributor Over Critical Analysis
09:19 TR News; "Once upon a time, Canada had a thriving network of real community stations." https://breachmedia.ca/corporate-media-nearly-killed-community-tv-but-it-can-rise-again/ | Source: Breach Media
09:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: breachmedia.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://breachmedia.ca/corporate-media-nearly-killed-community-tv-but-it-can-rise-again/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://breachmedia.ca/corporate-media-nearly-killed-community-tv-but-it-can-rise-again/
09:19 TR Bot; Corporate media nearly killed community TV, but it can rise again The Breach
09:20 TR News; "2009: A big year for 3D printing. The FDM patent expires" https://www.thesoftwareguild.com/blog/the-history-and-future-of-3d-printing/ |
09:20 TR Bot; The History and Future of 3D Printing | The Software Guild
09:20 TR News; "Additive manufacturing (AM, or 3D printing) began in earnest when stereolithography (SLA) was invented in Japan in the early 1980s." https://am.covestro.com/en_US/insights/blog/power-to-transform-automobile-production-and-maintenance.html |
09:20 TR Bot; 3D printing changes the automotive industry
09:21 TR News; "Building off foundational work by Hull and others in the late 1980s" https://www.csis.org/analysis/achieving-additive-manufacturing-breakthrough | Source: CSIS
09:21 TR Bot; Achieving an Additive Manufacturing Breakthrough | Center for Strategic and International Studies
09:22 TR News; "MKV is a royalty-free open standard under GNU L-GPL license for personal use and also has free parsing and playback libraries under BSD license available for commercial companies." https://www.winxdvd.com/video-transcoder/mkv-vs-mp4.htm |
09:22 TR Bot; MKV vs MP4 - Which Is a Better Video Format to Choose?
09:24 TR News; Trademarks versus repairs, sharing etc. https://www.extremetech.com/internet/334238-honda-goes-after-people-3d-printing-compatible-parts | Source: Extreme Tech
09:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: extremetech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.extremetech.com/internet/334238-honda-goes-after-people-3d-printing-compatible-parts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.extremetech.com/internet/334238-honda-goes-after-people-3d-printing-compatible-parts
09:24 TR Bot; Goes After People 3D Printing Compatible Parts - ExtremeTech
09:24 TR News; "All models referencing the word Honda posted prior to 30th March 2022" https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/honda-issues-printables-with-takedown-notice-for-all-honda-related-3d-models-207886/ |
09:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: 3dprintingindustry.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/honda-issues-printables-with-takedown-notice-for-all-honda-related-3d-models-207886/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/honda-issues-printables-with-takedown-notice-for-all-honda-related-3d-models-207886/
09:24 TR Bot; Honda issues Printables with takedown notice for all Honda-related 3D models - 3D Printing Industry
09:24 TR News; "I can confirm to you that we have received a letter from a lawyer" https://www.thedrive.com/news/honda-orders-big-takedown-of-honda-related-3d-printing-models-from-maker-communities | Source: The Drive
09:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thedrive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thedrive.com/news/honda-orders-big-takedown-of-honda-related-3d-printing-models-from-maker-communities https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thedrive.com/news/honda-orders-big-takedown-of-honda-related-3d-printing-models-from-maker-communities
09:24 TR Bot; Honda Orders Big Takedown of Honda-Related 3D Printing Models From Maker Communities
09:25 TR News; "a story first published by TheDrive" https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/honda-reportedly-had-3d-models-removed-from-printables-marketplace/ |
09:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: 3dprintingmedia.network | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/honda-reportedly-had-3d-models-removed-from-printables-marketplace/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/honda-reportedly-had-3d-models-removed-from-printables-marketplace/
09:25 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/honda-reportedly-had-3d-models-removed-from-printables-marketplace/ )
09:25 TR News; "This response, posted on the Prusa forums confirms the situation" https://makezine.com/2022/04/19/honda-lashes-out-at-3d-printers-requests-files-be-removed/ |
09:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: makezine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://makezine.com/2022/04/19/honda-lashes-out-at-3d-printers-requests-files-be-removed/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://makezine.com/2022/04/19/honda-lashes-out-at-3d-printers-requests-files-be-removed/
09:25 TR Bot; Honda Lashes Out At 3D Printers, Requests Files Be Removed - Make:
09:25 TR News; "BREIN says it has reached cash settlement and abstention agreements" https://torrentfreak.com/iptv-usenet-and-comic-book-pirates-agree-to-pay-up-and-shut-down-220423/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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09:25 TR Bot; Usenet and Comic Book Pirates Agree To Pay Up and Shut Down * TorrentFreak
09:31 TR News; When I access manchestereveningnews (local news) I cannot proceed without consenting to data about me being sent to about 50 "partners" that spy on me from US, Germany, etc. JavaScript made the Web a toxic place. We need to compel companies to move away from it.
09:52 TR News; Sop buying stuff in the bill gates-connected coffee-sipping cult starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-ceo-pushed-managers-to-thwart-unionization-efforts-leaked-video-shows/ | Source: TruthOut
09:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-ceo-pushed-managers-to-thwart-unionization-efforts-leaked-video-shows/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-ceo-pushed-managers-to-thwart-unionization-efforts-leaked-video-shows/
09:52 TR Bot; Starbucks CEO Pushed Managers to Thwart Unionization Efforts, Leaked Video Shows
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10:03 TR News; Distraction from the proprietary voting machines being unfit for purpose (for decades already) https://truthout.org/articles/meadows-who-pushed-right-wing-myths-of-voter-fraud-registered-in-3-states/ | Source: TruthOut
10:03 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/meadows-who-pushed-right-wing-myths-of-voter-fraud-registered-in-3-states/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/meadows-who-pushed-right-wing-myths-of-voter-fraud-registered-in-3-states/
10:03 TR Bot; Meadows, Who Pushed Right-Wing Myths of Voter Fraud, Registered in 3 States
10:03 TR News; Another monopoly https://truthout.org/articles/company-responsible-for-tainted-baby-formula-has-monopoly-over-aid-program-sales/ | Source: TruthOut
10:03 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/company-responsible-for-tainted-baby-formula-has-monopoly-over-aid-program-sales/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/company-responsible-for-tainted-baby-formula-has-monopoly-over-aid-program-sales/
10:03 TR Bot; Company Responsible for Tainted Baby Formula Has Monopoly Over Aid Program Sales
10:04 TR News; "In everyday life, the largest moving object most people are likely to encounter is probably a train." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/retrotechtacular-the-power-to-stop/ | Source: Hackaday
10:04 TR Bot; The Power To Stop | Hackaday
10:04 TR News; KDE Plasma 5.25 Plans for Dynamic Accent Colour Based on Wallpaper Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164074
10:04 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.25 Plans for Dynamic Accent Colour Based on Wallpaper | Tux Machines
10:05 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 23, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/irc-log-230422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/irc-log-230422/
10:05 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 23, 2022 | Techrights
10:07 TR News; HAL 9000 https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/2022-sci-fi-contest-your-home-assistant-hal-9000/ | Source: Hackaday
10:07 TR Bot; Sci-Fi Contest: Your Home Assistant, HAL 9000 | Hackaday
10:07 TR News; "One may think that when it comes to 3D printing, slicing software is pretty much a solved problem." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/a-universal-non-planar-slicer-for-3d-printing-is-worth-thinking-about/ | Source: Hackaday
10:07 TR Bot; Universal, Non-planar Slicer For 3D Printing Is Worth Thinking About | Hackaday
10:17 TR News; iophk: twitter must be declining if this style of puff piece is happening https://www.pcworld.com/article/632753/3-reasons-for-normal-people-to-use-twitter.html
10:17 TR Bot; practical reasons to use Twitter | PCWorld
10:18 TR News; iophk: reuters.com articles tend to block firefox and are not viewable in that browser
10:19 TR News; Many falsehoods https://www.wionews.com/photos/timeline-the-saga-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assanges-extradition-472474
10:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: wionews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wionews.com/photos/timeline-the-saga-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assanges-extradition-472474 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.wionews.com/photos/timeline-the-saga-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assanges-extradition-472474
10:19 TR Bot; Timeline: The saga of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's extradition - World News
10:21 TR News; Assange / Wikileaks https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/04/20/julian-assange-ett-steg-narmare-utlamning-till-usa/
10:21 TR Bot; Julian Assange ytterligare ett steg nrmare utlmning till USA
10:21 TR News; Deleted tweets are shaking up the L.A. city controller race - Los Angeles Times https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-22/kenneth-mejia-biden-tweets-city-controller-race Source: latimes
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10:21 TR Bot; Deleted tweets are shaking up the L.A. city controller race - Los Angeles Times
10:22 TR News; Amplified by social control media https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/04/23/how-can-climate-activists-fight-misinformation/
10:22 TR Bot; How Can Climate Activists Fight Misinformation? neritam
10:24 TR News; For dumb people https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.tagesstimme.com/2022/04/20/smart-citizen-wallet-bologna-fuehrt-pilotprojekt-fuer-sozialkredit-system-ein
10:24 TR Bot; ( status 400 @ https://www-tagesstimme-com.translate.goog/2022/04/20/smart-citizen-wallet-bologna-fuehrt-pilotprojekt-fuer-sozialkredit-system-ein?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US )
10:25 TR News; The Illustrated QUIC Connection: Every Byte Explained https://quic.ulfheim.net/ Source: quic
10:25 TR Bot; The Illustrated QUIC Connection: Every Byte Explained
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11:09 mib_49r3ae; St@duckgo.outlook.co.th
11:09 mib_49r3ae; St@duckgo.outlook.co.th
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11:12 TR News; "Social [CONTROL] Media" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/23/eu-enacts-landmark-social-media-law-end-self-regulation-big-tech | Source: Common Dreams
11:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/23/eu-enacts-landmark-social-media-law-end-self-regulation-big-tech https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/23/eu-enacts-landmark-social-media-law-end-self-regulation-big-tech
11:12 TR Bot; EU Enacts Landmark Social Media Law to End Self-Regulation by Big Tech
11:13 techrights_guest|12; St@duckgo.outlook.co.th
11:13 mib_49r3ae; St@duckgo.outlook.co.th
11:13 schestowitz-TR; ?
11:13 schestowitz-TR; outlook???
11:13 schestowitz-TR; DuckDuckGo is a Microsoft front
11:14 schestowitz-TR; and yes, they use outlook
11:14 schestowitz-TR; since years ago
11:14 chunky; all my homies HATE duckduckgo
11:14 schestowitz-TR; is th thailand?
11:14 chunky; yep
11:15 schestowitz-TR; 2 days ago we went to tesco and saw a product called "chunky"
11:15 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall what it is
11:16 chunky; wow nice
11:16 chunky; well if u remember please let me know
11:16 TR News; "People generate lots of waste heat. It makes sense that there is a desire to convert that heat into usable energy." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/high-temp-heat-engine-achieves-40-efficiency/ | Source: Hackaday
11:16 TR Bot; Temp Heat Engine Achieves 40% Efficiency | Hackaday
11:16 chunky; probably a terrible product
11:16 chunky; (cuz cisco)
11:16 chunky; but still ;D
11:16 TR News; CNC https://hackaday.com/2022/04/23/omnibot-shows-off-over-a-decade-of-cnc-prowess/ | Source: Hackaday
11:16 TR Bot; Shows Off Over A Decade Of CNC Prowess | Hackaday
11:16 chunky; i want to report the techrights-news chatter for interrupting my chat flow constantly
11:17 schestowitz-TR; muting in irc is very easy
11:17 chunky; it is against my principles!!
11:18 schestowitz-TR; irc is very barebones, you can follow this network from the command line and customise it
11:18 schestowitz-TR; reporting accounts is also against our principles :-)
11:19 *schestowitz-TR checks what "chunky" tesco has
11:19 chunky; hehe
11:20 schestowitz; NOT this one: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/290351048
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11:20 schestowitz; many things there say chuinky something
11:20 schestowitz; but this one if the brand name
11:21 chunky; yum
11:21 chunky; i have never visited a tesco.. barely lived..
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11:24 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
11:27 TR News; Microsoft proprietary software spam has been filed under "LINUX" by ZDNet. "Mary Jo Foley in Cloud"
11:30 TR News; "And again sauna culture is a part of the story." https://dt.iki.fi/reviews-books
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11:30 TR Bot; Review Diary - Books and other Reading | dt.iki.fi
11:31 TR News; "These clickbaiting titles are so horrible, I couldnt stand mocking them! But at least mine speaks truth." https://vrurg.github.io/2022/04/23/Lock-Benchmarking
11:31 TR Bot; He Tested Many Locks. See What Happened Then! - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg
11:32 TR News; 1) DELETE Windows 2. Install REAL GNU/Linux. 3) Solved! https://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-server-execution-failed-error-in-wsl
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11:32 TR Bot; Fix Server execution failed error in WSL
11:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: The private sector in Belarus' is not that influenced by the government, as far as I know. But I see how this is a Conflict of Interest.
11:50 XRevan86; https://lbry.tv/@techlore:3/i'm-leaving-duckduckgo,-and-here's-what:f Similiar path, except Startpage.com banned my IP long before the acquisition, and I am uneasy by the Brave brand, but not too much, there are worse things.
11:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lbry.tv | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lbry.tv/@techlore:3/i'm-leaving-duckduckgo,-and-here's-what:f https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lbry.tv/@techlore:3/i'm-leaving-duckduckgo,-and-here's-what:f
11:50 TR Bot; I'm leaving DuckDuckGo, and here's what I picked...
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12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 82.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 289.76
13:06 schestowitz-TR; Startpage is spyware
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13:06 schestowitz-TR; owned by spying company
13:06 schestowitz-TR; so he leaves one spy for another. bravo~!
13:07 schestowitz-TR; the bribed "youtube influencers" pay off
13:07 XRevan86; https://nitter.eu/igorsushko/status/1518124361986699270#m Putin was in Moscow again.
13:08 TR Bot; Igor Sushko (@igorsushko): "Someone captured Putin on video during the pre-recording of him in an emptied church protected by his body guards. This footage was then broadcast as "live" on Russian state propaganda TV, sprinkled into the actual footage of Easter services." | nitter
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13:11 afterfact; jello
13:12 TR News; "Sponsored", but for a change not pushing WINDOWS https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/24/starfive-releases-perf-tool-for-highest-performance-risc-v-ip-dubhe/
13:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/24/starfive-releases-perf-tool-for-highest-performance-risc-v-ip-dubhe/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/24/starfive-releases-perf-tool-for-highest-performance-risc-v-ip-dubhe/
13:12 TR Bot; StarFive releases Perf tool for highest performance RISC-V IP Dubhe (Sponsored) - CNX Software
13:13 TR News; wpad needed. too https://openwrt.org/usteer?rev=1650799631&do=diff
13:13 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] Setting up usteer and band-steering in OpenWrt
13:13 afterfact; do you use OpenWrt ?
13:14 XRevan86; afterfact: Yes.
13:14 TR News; "Writing system tests can be sometimes tricky because we want to assert a reality thats not yet rendered. Ad-hoc sleeping is something that can mostly address the problem, but its not the most elegant solution and should be avoided if possible." https://nts.strzibny.name/avoid-sleep-rails-system-tests/
13:14 TR Bot; How to avoid sleep in Rails system tests
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13:15 afterfact; why you did that?
13:15 TR News; "Medevel Editor's pick" has become webspam or SEO spam. Medevel will go down the drain if it becomes a spamfarm like this... :( https://medevel.com/what-is-hospice-care-and-how-its-useful/
13:15 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/what-is-hospice-care-and-how-its-useful/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/what-is-hospice-care-and-how-its-useful/
13:15 TR Bot; What Is Hospice Care And How It's Useful
13:16 XRevan86; afterfact: To have decent software on my router.
13:16 afterfact; i meant disconnect me
13:16 XRevan86; "Quit: Connection closed"
13:16 afterfact; sometimes theres captchas
13:17 afterfact; i didnt do anything here
13:17 afterfact; you think they are spying me?
13:18 afterfact; the kiwis are spying on me
13:19 afterfact; my router dont seem to like openwrt
13:19 TR News; This Week in Linux 195: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Shuttleworth on Flatpaks, AlmaLinux, KDE and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-195/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
13:19 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Shuttleworth on Flatpaks, AlmaLinux, KDE and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
13:19 afterfact; it seems it only works on the expensive shit
13:20 afterfact; are you using it virtualized?
13:21 afterfact; https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vyos-routeros-with-kvm/
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13:21 TR Bot; How to Install vyOS RouterOS with KVM
13:21 TR News; TrustZone :/ https://linuxgizmos.com/popcorn-computer-sips-integrate-sdram-and-allwinner-a33-a133-cpus/
13:21 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/popcorn-computer-sips-integrate-sdram-and-allwinner-a33-a133-cpus/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/popcorn-computer-sips-integrate-sdram-and-allwinner-a33-a133-cpus/
13:21 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/popcorn-computer-sips-integrate-sdram-and-allwinner-a33-a133-cpus/ )
13:22 afterfact; maybe i could install openwrt using this recipe?
13:26 TR News; Hardware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164075
13:26 TR Bot; Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:26 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164076
13:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; wayland means more things break https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/osinfo-db/+bug/1969524
13:27 TR Bot; Bug #1969524 Broken login on jammy VM using wayland, on a jammy... : Bugs : osinfo-db package : Ubuntu
13:28 TR News; [PATCH v2 0/7] perf/x86/amd/core: Add AMD PerfMonV2 support - Sandipan Das https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1650515382.git.sandipan.das@amd.com/ Source: amd
13:28 TR Bot; [PATCH v2 0/7] perf/x86/amd/core: Add AMD PerfMonV2 support - Sandipan Das
13:29 TR News; FFmpeg is at https://git.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.git ... why did Microbell link to Microsoft (criminals) mirror of that to show changes in FFmpeg? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FFmpeg-JPEG-XL-Lands
13:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FFmpeg-JPEG-XL-Lands https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FFmpeg-JPEG-XL-Lands
13:29 TR Bot; Git - ffmpeg.git/summary
13:29 TR Bot; Lands JPEG-XL Support - Phoronix
13:30 TR News; More Trojan horses for software patents from Fraunhofer? https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/4/prweb18634752.htm
13:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: prweb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/4/prweb18634752.htm https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/4/prweb18634752.htm
13:30 TR Bot; nablet Releases JPEG XS SDK to Create Workflows Based on Powerful New Video Standard
13:38 TR News; 4 Best Free and Open Source Vulnerability Detection Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164077
13:38 TR Bot; 4 Best Free and Open Source Vulnerability Detection Tools | Tux Machines
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13:43 XRevan86; afterfact: Everything regarding OS' is on a per router basis.
13:43 XRevan86; And no, OpenWrt is not only for expensive shit.
13:43 TR News; Halifax: "We will refund our 9.50 fee where charged for payments sent to Ukraine. Please allow a few days for this to be paid back into your account." Banksters in UK: we will not rob you only if the country you send money to is being bombed.
13:53 afterfact; if only they put "OpenWrt ready on the box"
13:58 afterfact; why isnt ubuntu using docker instead of snaps?
13:59 afterfact; does techrights have a FB page?
14:00 TR News; Banks are, in general, closing all the branches little by little, expecting the client to become the banker for no actual salary. Sooner or later banks will have no actual assets, only a big pile of loans and liabilities, with taxpayers forced to bail them out when it all comes crashing down. Unacceptable. No wonder many people resort to liquidating real money (fiat currency) into fakecoins.
14:07 schestowitz-TR; afterfact: what is a FB page FOR? :D
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14:07 schestowitz-TR; that's like telling a man with legs to buy shoes
14:08 afterfact; you got all this buttons on the page so i thought
14:08 schestowitz-TR; those are obsolete
14:08 afterfact; excuse me?
14:09 schestowitz-TR; all those buttons don't need to be there
14:09 schestowitz-TR; I used to be active in some sites if you allude to buttons next to my name
14:09 schestowitz-TR; or maybe you mean bottom of posts
14:09 schestowitz-TR; those too are quite obsolete
14:09 schestowitz-TR; but one script of mine relies on finding the bottom of posts bodies this way
14:10 afterfact; good excuse
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14:13 activelow; nice, netsurf-motif doesn't crash anymore...; was hitting a bug in image rendering with motif because framebuffer was set to 16bit depth
14:14 activelow; so, i switched back to truecolor; strangely now the colors within netsurf-motif are errornous, at least it doesn't crash
14:16 activelow; meaning... netsurf browser is back, and no more GTK2/3 required at all
14:17 activelow; motif doesn't look that bad, even without any theme applied, and the color-space issue can be fixed too
14:19 activelow; i am not over-estimating the importance of netsurf-motif, when considering this the last remaining "free software" graphical web browser
14:22 TR News; Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164078
14:22 TR Bot; Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:22 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164079
14:22 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:26 TR News; Links 24/04/2022: Octopus 1.3.0 and Ukraine Harmed Some More by Windows | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/octopus-1-3-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/octopus-1-3-0/
14:26 TR Bot; Links 24/04/2022: Octopus 1.3.0 and Ukraine Harmed Some More by Windows | Techrights
14:28 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164080
14:28 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:29 TR News; This past month ZDNet reached (I think) all-time low. They're cutting down staff to 'skeletal' levels. In "Linux" section not even one article in 2 days. The site needs to just vanish completely. It's false, it's corrupt, it's malicious.
14:31 TR News; searx.feneas.org is now dead :/ I'm left without any search engine, only (at best) Wikileaks and Wikipedia search, which has its own issue
14:32 afterfact; netsurf browser?
14:32 TR News; Many people rightly ask, what did Amazon buy Alexa for (the spyware company, not the bug/listening devices with the same name)?
14:33 schestowitz-TR; afterfact: it's not too badf
14:33 schestowitz-TR; depends on what you need
14:33 afterfact; foes it work on tty?
14:33 TR News; Alexa: "End of Service Notice -- Twenty five years ago we founded Alexa Internet. After more than two decades of helping you find, reach, and convert your digital audience, we will be retiring Alexa.com on May 1, 2022. Thank you for making us your go-to resource for content research, competitive analysis, keyword" research, and so much more.
14:35 MinceR; maybe for the brand
14:35 TR News; If you go to https://www.alexa.com you will see that it has, in effect, ALREADY shut down. Not in May/next week. Another company which did nothing of value except spying, another financial bubble (like MOST companies). No business model, just data harvesting operation.
14:35 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: alexa.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alexa.com https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.alexa.com
14:35 TR Bot; - Login
14:36 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: he bezos wanted the trademark, then there were better ways
14:36 schestowitz-TR; and it's likely cheaper to just choose another name
14:36 MinceR; but the other ways weren't aggressive and destructive enough
14:36 schestowitz-TR; I've long wonder what the heck paid Alexa.com anyway
14:36 MinceR; you know how it works with these people
14:37 schestowitz-TR; I hope Musking Tape buys Twitter
14:37 afterfact; he needed a tax deduction so
14:37 schestowitz-TR; and buries it to the ground
14:37 activelow; netsurf supports framebuffer, although i had no luck with this yet, and for framebuffer console other options exist
14:37 schestowitz-TR; and then puts the ashes in a pot
14:37 schestowitz-TR; and smokes it
14:37 schestowitz-TR; on SpotiRogan show
14:37 activelow; what i want is a graphical browser for X11, which doesn't need any QT4/5/GTK2/3
14:37 schestowitz-TR; "today we smoke some twitter"
14:37 activelow; and netsurf-motif does it
14:37 afterfact; why?
14:37 schestowitz-TR; like Andrew Lee did with Freenode
14:37 schestowitz-TR; [14:37] <afterfact> he needed a tax deduction so
14:38 schestowitz-TR; there is this theory
14:38 schestowitz-TR; about misuse of ch11
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and similar
14:38 schestowitz-TR; you buy a company
14:38 schestowitz-TR; pass all the bad "assets" to it
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and then dissolve debt
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and this is what Microsoft does
14:38 schestowitz-TR; asset passing
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and then write-off
14:38 schestowitz-TR; Enron-type accounting as a friend puts it
14:38 activelow; afterfact: why netsurf-motif? because it is the last remaining RYF browser
14:39 afterfact; https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0542242/how-us-billionaires-can-avoid-paying-income-taxes
14:39 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0542242/how-us-billionaires-can-avoid-paying-income-taxes https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0542242/how-us-billionaires-can-avoid-paying-income-taxes
14:39 schestowitz-TR; In Norway, Microsoft may have done that with FAST
14:39 TR Bot; How US Billionaires Can Avoid Paying Income Taxes - Slashdot
14:39 activelow; last remaining _graphical_/X11 RYF browser
14:39 schestowitz-TR; activelow: graphical
14:39 schestowitz-TR; Alexa.com dying is another blow to the WWW
14:40 schestowitz-TR; it's 90s Web going down the drain
14:40 schestowitz-TR; so we are left with browsers as Adobe Flash, but with w3c backing the trash
14:40 schestowitz-TR; chromeOS takes it further and calls the browser an OS
14:40 afterfact; its seems they borrow money to to buy companies cause the intersts are alowar then taxes
14:40 schestowitz-TR; uses GNU and Linux just for utils and hardware drivers
14:41 schestowitz-TR; afterfact: that's another thing
14:41 afterfact; also they kill the competition
14:41 afterfact; so its a win win
14:41 schestowitz-TR; Elon Musking Tape wanted to do that
14:41 schestowitz-TR; like rich people buying sport clubs
14:41 schestowitz-TR; for tax reasons
14:41 schestowitz-TR; It's a great system... for the rich
14:42 schestowitz-TR; instead of paying tax you get to buy something
14:42 schestowitz-TR; and it is cheaper than it would be to pay your taxes
14:42 afterfact; anf you can even make a profit
14:43 schestowitz-TR; when you sell it
14:43 schestowitz-TR; buy just to sell
14:43 afterfact; depending if you win
14:43 schestowitz-TR; or dismantle
14:43 afterfact; just buying to dismantle is a big win
14:43 schestowitz-TR; but debt passing it another
14:43 schestowitz-TR; you buy something
14:43 schestowitz-TR; you pass the debt to it
14:43 afterfact; killing competition is priceless
14:43 schestowitz-TR; then let it die with the debt
14:43 schestowitz-TR; I forgot the term for it
14:44 schestowitz-TR; debt loading, IIRC
14:44 schestowitz-TR; you load up the "asset" with your debt
14:44 schestowitz-TR; and then bury the whole thing
14:44 afterfact; under the rug
14:45 Techrights-sec; that could be a primary intended side advantage of buying twitter; the
14:45 Techrights-sec; obvious main goal would be to use it as megaphone for hype
14:46 Techrights-sec; , marketing,
14:46 Techrights-sec; and various pump-and-dump schemes
14:47 afterfact; i bet they measure up all the nagles
14:47 afterfact; angles
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14:48 schestowitz-TR; parts of the www are already devoted purely to it
14:48 schestowitz-TR; this is some of the trash I must go through every weekend
14:48 schestowitz-TR; and I realised how much I hate going through spam from law firms, too
14:48 schestowitz-TR; and I'd consider stopping that alrtogether and use the time to do
14:48 schestowitz-TR; something other than correcting them
14:48 schestowitz-TR; when searchiung for "free sofwtare" I get tons of results about fakjecoins
14:48 schestowitz-TR; the www is their "recruitment" platform
14:48 schestowitz-TR; to suck in REAL money for the scheme
14:51 MinceR; 24 153700 < schestowitz-TR> I hope Musking Tape buys Twitter
14:51 MinceR; finally, a way to monetize twatter :>
14:52 schestowitz-TR; not really
14:52 schestowitz-TR; they had it before
14:52 schestowitz-TR; just not the company
14:52 schestowitz-TR; the shareholders pushed agenda
14:53 schestowitz-TR; lies, deceit, misinformation
14:53 schestowitz-TR; pushing fakecoins also
14:53 schestowitz-TR; lots of NTF astroturfers there
14:54 TR News; It looks to me like people using any netcraft extension became so few that their traffic ranks are rather meaningless at this point
14:55 TR News; Personal thoughts about the ongoing series regarding the EPOs relationship with Belarus http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-and-belarus/
14:55 TR Bot; EPO and Belarus: Why It Matters | Techrights
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 384.03
14:59 TR News; Spamnil now has quite a few videos with fewer videos than days and some are - gasp - less than half the number of views than days, e.g. one month since publication, less than 15 views. LF bet its farm on a person who repels people.
15:08 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/knuO3s3.mp4
15:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/knuO3s3.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/knuO3s3.mp4
15:09 TR News; No, stop buying things. Also, with film cameras you can get to keep your memories/photos for up to 100 years if not longer...
15:13 MinceR; how will you use your film camera without buying film?
15:17 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I did not read the PR
15:17 schestowitz-TR; but it sounded BS on the surface
15:17 schestowitz-TR; maybe greenwashing
15:29 TR News; FOSS Patents: Despite Sprint settlement in Texas, Deutsche Telekom is pursuing farcical 'antitrust' case against patent troll IPCom in Mannheim http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/despite-sprint-settlement-in-texas.html Source: fosspatents
15:29 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Despite Sprint settlement in Texas, Deutsche Telekom is pursuing farcical 'antitrust' case against IPCom in Mannheim
15:30 TR News; FOSS Patents: Another patent lawsuit against Ford discovered -- and a great automotive IP conference taking place in Frankfurt next week http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/another-patent-lawsuit-against-ford.html Source: fosspatents
15:30 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Another patent lawsuit against Ford discovered -- and a great automotive IP conference taking place in Frankfurt next week
15:32 TR News; What is the difference between Usenet and social control media? gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-24-What-is-the-difference-between-usenet-and-social-media.gmi
15:34 TR News; "There is this popular CSS framework that I wanna complain about (not attack or contact them, of course, just kvetch about it here) but I simultaneously feel like I dont wanna, because they dont break any web standards and there are no accessibility issues (unlike SPA frameworks)." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/you-can-tell-i-really-really-wanna-complain-about-it-but-im-not-gonna
15:37 TR News; This has nothing to do with community; it's misuse of the term http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/04/cjeu-law-of-member-state-where.html
15:37 TR Bot; CJEU: law of Member State where Community design infringement took place determines applicable law to supplementary claims as well - The IPKat
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15:59 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/19011850
15:59 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9xp9uo5t7u921.jpg created on 2019-01-18 18:12:08.822483
16:06 TR News; FOSS Patents: Great news for standard-essential patent holders: Munich court looking to streamline multi-patent SEP disputes through unified FRAND hearing in 'lead case' and sequencing of trials http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/great-news-for-standard-essential.html Source: fosspatents
16:06 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Great news for standard-essential patent holders: Munich court looking to streamline multi-patent SEP disputes through unified FRAND hearing in 'lead case' and sequencing of trials
16:07 TR News; Fintiv: More Work, Less Quality - Patent Progress https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/04/22/fintiv-more-work-less-quality/ Source: patentprogress
16:07 TR Bot; Fintiv: More Work, Less Quality - Patent Progress
16:07 TR News; Software Patents thrown in the bin again https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/aeritas-patent-successfully-challenged
16:07 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/aeritas-patent-successfully-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/7/aeritas-patent-successfully-challenged
16:07 TR Bot; Aeritas patent successfully challenged Unified Patents
16:08 TR News; Monopolies protection instead of PTAB crowdfunding? https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/unified-brands-and-rowan-tels-change-the-game-for-counterfeiters
16:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/unified-brands-and-rowan-tels-change-the-game-for-counterfeiters https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/unified-brands-and-rowan-tels-change-the-game-for-counterfeiters
16:08 TR Bot; Unified Brands and Rowan TELS Change the Game for Counterfeiters Unified Patents
16:09 TR News; Profiting from racism, turning it into monopolies (some people have no shame) http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/04/everyone-vs-racism-fails-to-function-as.html
16:09 TR Bot; The TTABlog: "EVERYBODY VS RACISM" Fails to Function as a Source Indicator for Bags, Clothing, and Public Interest Services, Says TTAB
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16:16 TR News; It is very ethical to make money by squashing fake patent monopolies https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/19/2000-awarded-for-forrester-295-prior-art
16:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/19/2000-awarded-for-forrester-295-prior-art https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/19/2000-awarded-for-forrester-295-prior-art
16:16 TR Bot; $2,000 awarded for Forrester '295 prior art Unified Patents
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16:42 TR News; Regardless of What JUVE Used to be (or Do to Uncover EPO Abuses), It Has Become a Propaganda Arm for EPO Management and Team UPC | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/juve-pr-operations/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/juve-pr-operations/
16:42 TR Bot; Regardless of What JUVE Used to be (or Do to Uncover EPO Abuses), It Has Become a Propaganda Arm for EPO Management and Team UPC | Techrights
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16:50 bnchs; flim camera: photos lasts more than 100 years, historians will dig it up
16:50 bnchs; digital camera with clown: the servers die, say goodbye to your photos
16:51 bnchs; the flash storage dies? also say goodbye
16:53 MinceR; you can backup digital photos
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17:06 bnchs; MinceR: yes
17:06 bnchs; you can do that
17:07 bnchs; but really, are historians gonna dig up your 200-year old possibly corrupted FAT32 filesystem?
17:08 MinceR; no, because there aren't going to be historians
17:08 MinceR; humans are going to wipe themselves out
17:09 MinceR; and aliens have seen our broadcasts so they're not interested in earth
17:09 MinceR; also, why would i keep my important photos on FAT32?
17:19 TR News; Unified Patent Court/UPC/Unitary Patent: Our Latest Fake News Watch (and Some Occasional Reminders That This is in Fact Faked, But Team UPC Does Not Care Whats Legal and Whats True) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/unitary-patent-fake-news/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/unitary-patent-fake-news/
17:19 TR Bot; Unified Patent Court/UPC/Unitary Patent: Our Latest Fake News Watch (and Some Occasional Reminders That This is in Fact Faked, But Team UPC Does Not Care Whats Legal and Whats True) | Techrights
17:22 TR News; "My mother passed away at 58. Covid and her heart couldn't stay beating." gemini://thedaemons.space/gemlog/2022-02-20.gmi
17:23 bnchs; MinceR: i don't know why i said fat32
17:23 bnchs; it was an example of a widely supported filesystem
17:23 TR News; "I put some images up, currently I am reducing them all to much lower file sizes. Like 1.4MB to 110kb. I thought some people might appreciate it." gemini://thedaemons.space/gemlog/2021-12-31.gmi
17:24 bnchs; infowars filed for bankruptcy
17:24 bnchs; i remember alex jones interviewing richard stallman somewhere in early 2010's
17:24 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8
17:24 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8
17:25 bnchs; in infowars
17:25 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8 )
17:25 schestowitz; if you can find it, make backups
17:25 MinceR; title >> Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX)
17:25 schestowitz; I would not rehost it in Techrights
17:25 schestowitz; as that would associate us with a person who isn't worth it (Jones, not RMS)
17:26 schestowitz; nevertheless, someone should back up that interview somewhe3re
17:26 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y
17:26 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y
17:26 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Alex Jones DMT Remix - Invidious
17:26 schestowitz; I remember Jones telling some BS to RMS
17:26 schestowitz; and RMS is like, "well, I don't know about that.."
17:26 schestowitz; iirc, something about gun crime in London or England
17:26 schestowitz; that's the issue with hosting such videos
17:26 schestowitz; you get the BS thrown in there
17:26 schestowitz; as a "side disgh"
17:27 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfwA0FhMwtg
17:27 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=AfwA0FhMwtg
17:27 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | Richard Stallman part 1 of 3 - Invidious
17:27 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rAqBK12Bs
17:27 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=02rAqBK12Bs
17:27 TR Bot; not resolve host: invidio.xamh.de; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=02rAqBK12Bs )
17:27 bnchs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVNRPU8wqkY
17:27 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=rVNRPU8wqkY
17:28 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=rVNRPU8wqkY )
17:28 bnchs; alex jones and richard stallman interview (3 parts though)
17:28 bnchs; you can download it
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17:37 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/19011724
17:37 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6648tu71qta21.png created on 2019-01-17 11:33:24.929052
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17:58 bnchs__; lol his richard stallman interview ends with an ad for a pepper spray
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18:09 bnchs__; found a higher quality version
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18:16 DaemonFC; <bnchs__> lol his richard stallman interview ends with an ad for a pepper spray
18:17 DaemonFC; It's in case Mr. GAFAM shows up and feigns ignorance as to the meaning of no, stop, don't do that.
18:17 TR News; An openwrt refresh https://openwrt.org/start?rev=1650809042&do=diff
18:17 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] Welcome to the OpenWrt Project
18:19 TR News; JUVE has become an aggressive disinformation platform bankrolled by large patent litigation firms; The German (or British) equivalent of Russian media operatives of Vladimir Putin; propaganda knows no boundaries anymore http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/juve-pr-operations/
18:19 TR Bot; Regardless of What JUVE Used to be (or Do to Uncover EPO Abuses), It Has Become a Propaganda Arm for EPO Management and Team UPC | Techrights
18:19 bnchs; DaemonFC, not a youtube ad
18:19 bnchs; but an ad in his show
18:19 TR News; Debunking lies (and liars) without sending them any traffic is no easy task; we hope that the annotated screenshots help equip the general public with information as well as evidence of the lies; well do a video on this subject shortly http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/unitary-patent-fake-news/
18:19 TR Bot; Unified Patent Court/UPC/Unitary Patent: Our Latest Fake News Watch (and Some Occasional Reminders That This is in Fact Faked, But Team UPC Does Not Care Whats Legal and Whats True) | Techrights
18:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, they do that now because of the demonetization of YouTube channels so Google can grow fat on a mountain of skulls.
18:20 DaemonFC; You give them "content" they beat you up and steal your lunch money.
18:21 DaemonFC; So now you need an ad blocker and SponsorBlock to make it through the videos.
18:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
18:21 bnchs; i mean this is a video from 2009
18:21 bnchs; way before demonetization was a thing
18:23 bnchs; there's also another alex jones interview on richard stallman made in 2012
18:26 TR News; NuTyX 22.04.6 available with cards 2.5.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164081
18:26 TR Bot; NuTyX 22.04.6 available with cards 2.5.0 | Tux Machines
18:35 TR News; SSH Is Magic, But Tunnels Are Even Better Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164082
18:35 TR Bot; SSH Is Magic, But Tunnels Are Even Better | Tux Machines
18:35 TR News; Destination Linux 273: Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-273/
18:35 TR Bot; Our Takes on the Hottest Linux News of 2022 - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
18:37 TR News; mintCast: "In security, PolicyKit vulnerability lies dormant for a decade, GNU coreutils are being rewritten in Rust, Ubuntu improves low memory handling andSurfshark VPN jumps the shark." https://mintcast.org/2022/04/24/380-leo-makes-an-appearance/
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18:37 TR Bot; 380 Leo makes an appearance mintCast
18:38 bnchs; so i found 3 rms interviews (2009, january 2012 (audio-only), september 2012)
18:39 TR News; Linux Out Loud : "Welcome to episode 09 of Linux Out Loud. We fired up our mics, connected those headphones as we searched the community for themes to expound upon. We kept the banter friendly, the conversation somewhat on topic, and had fun doing it." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/9-open-source-crazy-sauce/
18:39 TR Bot; Open Source Crazy Sauce - Linux Out Loud - TuxDigital
18:39 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164083
18:39 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
18:41 TR News; Linux Out Loud 10: Application Rundown - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/lol-10/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
18:41 TR Bot; Application Rundown - Linux Out Loud - TuxDigital
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19:22 DaemonFC; I had to give up and install ungoogled chromium to manage my credit report.
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19:22 DaemonFC; It kept locking me out for using Firefox.
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19:46 activelow; sigh
19:46 activelow; there is more work remaining with netsurf-motif than expected
19:46 bnchs; DaemonFC, the web is starting to be closed
19:47 bnchs; chromium is a monopoly on the web
19:47 activelow; i had another idea meanwhile, concerning web surfing, which is sixel support for any of the terminal browsers and ditching any non-unix style www surfing entirely
19:48 DaemonFC; They really lean on you to come back im Chrome now.
19:48 DaemonFC; So I got ungoogled Chromium out of Flathub.
19:48 activelow; DaemonFC: never again
19:48 bnchs; gulag is the new microsoft of the web
19:48 bnchs; and they did it successfully this time
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19:49 DaemonFC; It's a backup browser for stubborn websites.
19:49 activelow; and i think you couldn't grasp the reasoning, why any of the chromium/webkit/mozilla software are unacceptable
19:50 activelow; i don't have at least an acceptable widget toolkit with those, regardless of the many other issues of them
19:50 *Noisytoot is now known as [
19:51 activelow; the type of "www" which chromium/webkit/mozilla target, however to name this, it is unacceptable software quality
19:51 bnchs; they should burn gulag at the stake
19:51 bnchs; and cloudflare
19:51 bnchs; they turned www into a monopoly of their engine and their MITM
19:52 activelow; i could use help with netsurf-motif porting; so far, it does not crash anymore and got all features which were presented on SGI IRIX with it
19:52 bnchs; yes
19:53 bnchs; netsurf-motif was done for the SGI IRIX
19:53 activelow; one bug introduced, with the non-OpenGL codepath, which is a flawed colormap, meaning the colors do not match the expected visual output
19:53 bnchs; that was what i was saying yesterday
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19:53 activelow; the developer already implemented the non-opengl codepath, and the only bug i see there is the colormapping problem
19:54 activelow; besides, other issues, such as missing copy-paste, right-click context menu, which are crucial
19:54 activelow; the missing copy-paste and missing right-click context menu affect the SGI IRIX variant too
19:55 activelow; anyway; i wrapped this into a clean gentoo ebuild together with a clean patchset
19:56 activelow; i'll put this on hold for now, got other TODOs remaining
19:57 activelow; which is, sixel graphics support, and i could envision a workflow without any graphical browser, to read wikipedia, and render illustrations as sixel
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19:58 activelow; and i am not sure, if any QT/GTK/motif style application and desktop environment are suitable for what i really wanted to do: scientific study, reading, authoring
20:00 activelow; anyone knows of ordinay linux framebuffer console supported sixel graphics?
20:00 activelow; *anyone knows if ordinay linux framebuffer console supported sixel graphics?
20:01 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164084
20:01 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:01 TR News; Linux Mint Upgrade Tool - Heres How it Works Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164085
20:01 TR Bot; Linux Mint Upgrade Tool - Here's How it Works | Tux Machines
20:02 bnchs; wtf is sixel
20:02 activelow; *anyone knows if ordinary linux framebuffer console supported sixel graphics?
20:02 bnchs; whats sixel
20:03 activelow; it is a bitmap graphics format suitable for DEC terminal type
20:03 bnchs; oh
20:04 activelow; it is 50years old, didn't know it existed until few days ago, when i was in need for a X11 terminal emulator, written in C, with unicode support...
20:05 activelow; then i found it: suckless.org simple terminal
20:05 bnchs; let me guess
20:05 bnchs; xterm's VT320 emulation
20:05 bnchs; 340*
20:05 activelow; don't know, if xterm vt340 got sixel support
20:05 activelow; anyway, i would be curious if linux framebuffer console got it
20:06 bnchs; it did
20:06 activelow; and suckless simple terminal is known to support it with some patch
20:06 bnchs; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixel
20:06 TR Bot; Sixel - Wikipedia
20:06 activelow; ^ certainly any patents are expired, 50 years later
20:08 TR News; AlmaLinux vs Ubuntu - Which one should you choose? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164086
20:08 TR Bot; AlmaLinux vs Ubuntu - Which one should you choose? | Tux Machines
20:08 bnchs; activelow, you have to do the following anyway
20:08 bnchs; convert the image to a PPM
20:08 TR News; Shows: Linux Out Loud, mintCast, and Destination Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164087
20:08 TR Bot; Shows: Linux Out Loud, mintCast, and Destination Linux | Tux Machines
20:08 bnchs; downcolor the image (quant) to 16 colors
20:09 bnchs; and then convert it to a sixel
20:09 activelow; except for those illustrations, such as rendered from gnuplot
20:09 TR News; Ubuntu Brings Back Its Iconic Developer Summit With a Twist - OMG! Ubuntu! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/ubuntu-summit-returns-in-autumn-2022 Source: OMGUbuntu | GNU | Linux
20:09 TR Bot; Ubuntu Brings Back Its Iconic 'Developer Summit' With a Twist - OMG! Ubuntu!
20:10 activelow; which is what i am curious to see, if and how this integrates with: Knuth TeX, maths, plots, and output rendering of this onto terminal, including Sixel
20:11 TR News; FastF1 and Raspberry PI: Formula 1 Professional Data with Python https://peppe8o.com/fastf1-and-raspberry-pi-formula-1-professional-data-with-python/ Source: peppe8o
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20:11 TR Bot; FastF1 and Raspberry PI: Formula 1 Professional Data with Python
20:11 activelow; with printing a conversion from sixel to raw epson-bitmap format is necessary, if i wanted to plot this onto a 9pin matrix printer
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20:12 TR News; Native GNU/Linux: Terraformers, a relaxed game about turning the Red Planet green, out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/terraformers-a-relaxed-game-about-turning-the-red-planet-green-out-now/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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20:12 TR Bot; a relaxed game about turning the Red Planet green, out now | GamingOnLinux
20:13 TR News; radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15648 Source: gitlab
20:13 TR Bot; radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
20:13 activelow; as far as web browsing is concerned, if a content handler to convert and output sixel with Lynx browser... this would be cool
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20:19 activelow; and of cause, any virtual terminal needs support for sixel
20:23 TR News; "i had the displeasure of sleeping 15 hours straight today (or yesterday depending on your time zone)." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/898
20:24 TR News; This time of year... gemini://spikydinosaur.com/2022/04/24-hayfever.gmi
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20:27 activelow; anyway, digged inside the XTerm sources, and this doesn't seem to be the type of terminal emulator i would want to depend on
20:28 activelow; not to mention any of the QT/GNOME/GTK variants, suckless simple terminal is what i arrived at...
20:30 activelow; unicode truetype font rendering looks great; yet it is relatively slow with anti-aliasing and hinting applied; i think i prefer bitmap-type font over vectorized ones and expensive post-processing applied
20:31 activelow; fonts too were a patent battlefield for many years; i don't know what to think of this nowadays, with the final technical result, slowing down terminal emulators
20:33 activelow; since i removed all the GNOME stuff, gtk, pango, cairo, harfbuzz; fontconfig and freetype libraries remained... and their runtime performance isn't pleasent
20:34 activelow; i don't see the benefit of expensive post-processing of font rendering; fonts can be pre-processed for any sane amount of variants required
20:35 activelow; instead of, wasting megaflops of CPU power (or GPU, that's no different), to render fonts
20:36 activelow; so the industry, got another selling point, by creeping into font subsystems...
20:38 activelow; btw.; i noticed, netsurf browser supports many extensions, including SVG
20:38 activelow; and although netsurf browser was written entirely in C, including all it's dependencies, except one remained where c++ creeped into: libsvgtiny
20:39 activelow; i got a hotfix patch for libsvgtiny to use this with netsurf browser, nonetheless in it's current state (netsurf-motif), i don't see the benefit of this anymore; too much effort
20:39 activelow; which is better invested elsewhere, given the little man power i have, which is myself only
20:40 activelow; it is noteworthy still, what the state of "free software" really is, with examples such as raw linux framebuffer console and sixel graphics and text browsers
20:44 TR News; Debunking the Latest Lies From Team UPC About the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Agreement (UPCA) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/upc-lies-again-debunked/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/upc-lies-again-debunked/
20:44 TR Bot; Debunking the Latest Lies From Team UPC About the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Agreement (UPCA) | Techrights
20:47 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/smith-slaps-nadella.png
20:48 bnchs; smith slaps nutella
20:49 TR News; Microsoft = crime. US government = supporter of crime. http://techrights.org/2022/04/02/microsoft-crime-unpunished/
20:49 TR Bot; Microsoft Crime: A Week Later No Investigation Launched, No Microsoft Executives Prosecuted, Nobody Phoned the Police, Not Even a Slap on the Wrist | Techrights
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21:04 activelow; imagine, sixel graphics support, inside any gemini or irc client
21:05 bnchs; activelow, gemini doesn't even have images
21:05 bnchs; nor custom fonts
21:05 bnchs; or irc clients
21:05 bnchs; i mean irc and gemini doesn't have anything that warrants sixel
21:09 activelow; i am talking not about gemini or irc protocols themselves, i am talking about a terminal client which implements those protocols, including support for sixel graphics output
21:11 activelow; and support for this is closely tied to the terminal emulator used
21:11 activelow; which brings me back to DEC, who implemented it 50 years ago already... and it is mostly absent nowadays
21:12 activelow; because, illustrations, including plots, or math formulas (TeX rendered into sixel), output directly into virtual terminal, this is it
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21:13 TR News; [Meme] You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/fool-some-of-the-profession/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/fool-some-of-the-profession/
21:14 TR Bot; [Meme] You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. | Techrights
21:15 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22041938
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21:18 TR News; share 0 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/355
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21:18 TR News; <li><h5><a href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/terraformers-a-relaxed-game-about-turning-the-red-planet-green-out-now/">Terraformers, a relaxed game about turning the Red Planet green, out now | GamingOnLinux</a></h5>
21:18 TR Bot; a relaxed game about turning the Red Planet green, out now | GamingOnLinux
21:19 TR News; [GIT PULL] sched/urgent for 5.18-rc4 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/355
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21:20 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164088
21:20 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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21:21 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:21 TR News; "I'm not touching the bpf parts. I think that's a 5.19 issue by now, and since it's new, there's no equivalent performance regression issue." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/339
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21:21 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf 0/4] vmalloc: bpf: introduce VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP
21:22 SomeH4x0r; barto didn't connect for two days afaik. Maybe gone for a long time again. For some reason, it often happens with people on UplinkIRC.
21:24 matey; hi
21:25 matey; i watched the walkthrough for uplink
21:25 matey; fun game, id never play it
21:25 matey; the walkthrough guy did both types of endings
21:25 matey; or both objectives
21:25 matey; since you know the game, i dont have to do spoilers for you to know what im referring to
21:26 matey; but he did both helping arc and helping the people arc framed
21:26 matey; most of the videos (47 parts) are there
21:27 TR News; Rakudo compiler, Release #155 (2022.04) https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2022.04
21:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: rakudo.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2022.04 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2022.04
21:27 TR Bot; Rakudo compiler, Release #155 (2022.04) - Rakudo Compiler for Raku Programming Language
21:27 matey; he used top ten music in some of the videos so those are gone
21:27 SomeH4x0r; > people arc framed | a bit incorrect, ARC tries to destroy the Internet, while Arunmor tries to prevent it from happening
21:28 matey; at one point someone wanted arunmor framed for bank fraud
21:28 matey; that was the smaller, less-spoilery reference
21:28 SomeH4x0r; Arunmor just being the initial target, according to https://modlink.net it being a key company in the in-game Internet
21:28 TR Bot; Modlink
21:28 TR News; See what's eating up drive space on the Steam Deck with Filelight | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/see-whats-eating-up-drive-space-on-the-steam-deck-with-filelight/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
21:28 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/see-whats-eating-up-drive-space-on-the-steam-deck-with-filelight/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/see-whats-eating-up-drive-space-on-the-steam-deck-with-filelight/
21:28 TR Bot; what's eating up drive space on the Steam Deck with Filelight | GamingOnLinux
21:28 matey; yes
21:28 matey; but you know what i meant though, and that was my only objective
21:29 SomeH4x0r; Arunmor wants someone from ARC to be framed as well in one of their missions, but ok
21:29 matey; i dont know if i saw that mission
21:29 matey; 7 of 47 videos were missing
21:29 matey; though from what ive seen, missing those 7 isnt a big deal
21:29 matey; i saw the big ending
21:29 matey; really for all that work they could have done a slightly bigger ending
21:30 matey; i think commander keen went to more trouble when you won, and it was ega.
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21:30 matey; but since i didnt actually play, i dont feel cheated
21:30 SomeH4x0r; https://guide.modlink.net - you can read the part about plot missions
21:30 TR Bot; The Ultimate Uplink Guide
21:30 matey; its a very interesting concept and i think someone could redo it and have some fans
21:30 SomeH4x0r; 17:52 <SomeH4x0r> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gene9/uplink-source-code/master/uplink/src/world/generator/plotgenerator.cpp
21:30 SomeH4x0r; 17:53 <SomeH4x0r> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gene9/uplink-source-code/master/other/revelation.doc - maybe this one is useful as well
21:31 TR News; "Crow Translate is a simple and lightweight translator written in C++ / Qt that allows you to translate and speak text using Google, Yandex, Bing, LibreTranslate and Lingva translate API." https://sparkylinux.org/crow-translate/
21:31 TR Bot; Crow Translate SparkyLinux
21:32 TR News; Misses the point there are more Windows XP users than Vista 11 (tiny niche) https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-alongside-windows-11-dual-boot/
21:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: how2shout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-alongside-windows-11-dual-boot/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-alongside-windows-11-dual-boot/
21:32 TR Bot; Install Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy alongside Windows 11 (Dual Boot)
21:32 TR News; 10 Linux Network Commands and How to Use Them https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-network-commands-dns-settings/ those are not "Linux"
21:32 TR Bot; 10 Linux Network Commands and How to Use Them
21:33 TR News; The torrent of lies coming out of Team UPC parallels a similar stream of self-serving falsehoods (shameless propaganda) from Team Battistelli, still looking to replace real courts with kangaroo courts http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/upc-lies-again-debunked/
21:33 TR Bot; Debunking the Latest Lies From Team UPC About the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Agreement (UPCA) | Techrights
21:33 TR News; Top European courts will be very upset when they realise what Team UPC has been doing with help from Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos at the EPO http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/fool-some-of-the-profession/
21:33 TR Bot; [Meme] You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. | Techrights
21:35 TR News; libgnunetchat 0.1.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164089
21:35 TR Bot; libgnunetchat 0.1.0 released | Tux Machines
21:38 TR News; "Interestingly, the recent Mozilla layoff fiasco is how I discovered Gemini (so...thanks Mozilla?). Around that time I had re-entered the fediverse via another "zilla," Hubzilla, and the public stream was overwhelmingly full of frantic doomsday prepping discourse." gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/relog/2020-10-23-drewdevault-firefox.gmi
21:39 TR News; "I decided to start a Korean gemlog on a new Gemini server I got running[1]. Eventually, the Raspberry Pi on which the server runs will hopefully become a pubnix of sorts (and maybe one day even a Korean-language pubnix???)." gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/prose/2020-10-03-hangul_on_gemini.gmi
21:40 TR News; Didn't know that Gemini also caught on a little in he far east gemini://namu.blue/gemlog/2021-01-22-__.gmi
21:41 TR News; "Luckily in your case, sloum, the surveillance infrastructure at your daughter's preschool does not require you to download an app, make an account, identify yourself and your daughter, etc. As you mentioned, however, we cannot predict how that data will be used" gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/relog/2020-09-02-sloum-surveillance_childcare.gmi
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21:43 TR News; "Upon asking I was told that they were installing cameras in all of the classrooms so that parents could stream video of their children (and everyone else's) all day long. My wife and I refused to sign and told them we would be looking for other arrangements." gopher://colorfield.space:70/0/~sloum/phlog/20200210.txt
21:45 TR News; "Then I asked the final question: facial recognition. I was told that their developers are looking into facial recognition but that they do not currently have it implemented and it is not a foregone conclusion that they will do so." gopher://colorfield.space:70/0/~sloum/phlog/20200210.txt
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21:46 TR News; Statement on Repeated Internet Shutdowns in Various States in Response to Violence https://internetfreedom.in/statement-on-repeated-internet-shutdowns-in-various-states-in-response-to-violence/
21:46 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/statement-on-repeated-internet-shutdowns-in-various-states-in-response-to-violence/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://internetfreedom.in/statement-on-repeated-internet-shutdowns-in-various-states-in-response-to-violence/
21:46 TR Bot; Statement on Repeated Internet Shutdowns in Various States in Response to Violence
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21:48 TR News; Explainer: Bharat Financial Inclusion Limited Loan glitch https://internetfreedom.in/bfil-consent-scam/ "disbursed loans to several people who availed it using someone elses name and PAN details"
21:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/bfil-consent-scam/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://internetfreedom.in/bfil-consent-scam/
21:48 TR Bot; Explainer: Bharat Financial Inclusion Limited Loan 'glitch'
21:49 TR News; Linus: "I decided that for [Linux] 5.18, we want to at least fix the performance regression on powerpc, so I've applied the 2/4 patch to enable huge pages for the large hashes." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/339
21:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lkml.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/339 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/339
21:49 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf 0/4] vmalloc: bpf: introduce VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP
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21:55 matey; in 2014, a guy named ed sperling did a piece called "everyone is a progreammer"
21:55 matey; still worth reading
21:55 matey; i dont have a url, im looking at about 40,000 files right now
21:55 matey; i dont love the article, but i do love the title and the article supports it
21:56 SomeH4x0r; afk, ttyl
21:56 matey; the level of programming that i think constitutes literacy is NOT hard to achieve
21:56 matey; the problem is that its still a higher bar than people set for themselves
21:57 matey; and there are still people who can write code, but they a. dont feel confident in what theyre doing and b. dont know if theyre "really coding" because the way they were taught had them start in the middle
21:58 matey; instead of laying down even the basics, they "just tried to make something"
21:58 matey; so they have no way to verify if they actually know the basics or not-- because no one ever told them what the basics are.
21:58 schestowitz-TR; i read that as tty1 (one) at first..
21:59 matey; wait until someone tells you to fuck off and you read it as "run fsck"
21:59 matey; "fuck off"
21:59 matey; "good idea, thanks"
21:59 matey; "???"
22:00 matey; i talk to so many people who can do more than just basic stuff but DONT KNOW they can because they dont know what that is (per se)
22:01 matey; so theres no measurement of self-progress available to them
22:01 matey; this is only a hazard of self teaching if you deny them any sort of reasonable framework
22:01 matey; as a result, they learn how to code-- but STILL think theres some magic that isnt available to them
22:02 matey; "im told im literate but i dont know if thats true"
22:02 matey; im not saying that way of learning doesnt work, only that its incomplete
22:03 matey; have them go back and cover the basics after theyve "made a couple things"
22:03 matey; theyll be better for it
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22:42 SomeH4x0r; matey: barto told they won't be around for a while
22:43 TR News; [Meme] Lukampinos | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-gentlemen/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-gentlemen/
22:43 TR Bot; [Meme] Lukampinos | Techrights
22:44 SomeH4x0r; 00:33 <+barto> SomeH4x0r: just connecting for a second to tell ya that i'll be inactive for some time because of personal reasons
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22:44 matey; okay
22:44 matey; if he feels like coming back here, try to make him feel welcome
22:49 activelow; i see DEC corporation is defunct since 1998, and with it a huge portfolio of opportunities for commerce and crap began to flourish
22:50 activelow; to replace ordinary DEC terminal applications with glorious innovations elsewhere
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22:52 activelow; dot com bubble year 2000 didn't bust yet, it is a lie, to prevent it will, poof
22:52 TR News; From Belarus With Love Part II: Techwashing an Autocratic Regime? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/techwashing-belarus/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/techwashing-belarus/
22:52 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part II: Techwashing an Autocratic Regime? | Techrights
22:52 schestowitz-TR; it keeps getting bailed out
22:53 schestowitz-TR; Biden has just brought military budfget surging again
22:53 schestowitz-TR; more money from taxpayer (DEBT) to Gates, Musk, Thiel..
22:53 schestowitz-TR; graft Inc.
22:53 schestowitz-TR; That's the US econoy in a nutshell
22:53 schestowitz-TR; borrow like there is no tomorrow to keep the tech empire walking
22:54 activelow; well, the dotcom bubble didn't bust, and the industry is _technically_ bancrupt, this can't be fixed with more cash dumped into
22:55 TR News; Torvalds in 2022 (minutes ago): "Please, just to make me happier" https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/447 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/448
22:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lkml.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/447 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/4/24/447
22:55 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] hex2bin: make the function hex_to_bin constant-time
22:55 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] hex2bin: make the function hex_to_bin constant-time
22:55 activelow; and the type of products and software quality available nowadays, simply isn't anything i am willing to work with anymore
22:56 activelow; for scientific research, authoring, publishing... and if a DEC VT from 1990s could do it, why isn't there common sixel support nowadays?
22:57 activelow; the patchset for suckless simple terminal isn't an overwhelming task
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22:59 activelow; it is a problem if such an "US economy" produced mostly useless crap, it is apocalypse if this economy destroys quality software and hardware with a proven track record of decades
23:00 activelow; meanwhile, i consider ditching the entire modern font-rendering library fuzz, remove unicode support, and keep ISO8859-1
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23:07 matey; i consider ditching the entire modern font-rendering library fuzz, remove unicode support, and keep ISO8859-1 <- maybe keep unicode, or just give up on making an operating system
23:08 matey; without unicode you can probably just build a calculator and be happy
23:08 activelow; ascii only
23:09 bnchs; lol
23:09 bnchs; or just use GNU Unifont
23:09 bnchs; and only support UTF-8 as the only means of going beyond ASCII
23:10 activelow; thanks for the hint, at least GNU Unifont is a bitmap font
23:10 bnchs; yeah
23:11 bnchs; iirc it does have a file describing each character code with it's coordinates in the bitmap
23:11 matey; <bnchs> or just use GNU Unifont
23:11 matey; +
23:12 MinceR; 0 and 1 only
23:12 matey; mincer: no computer can get by with just 0 and 1! :B
23:13 TR News; [Meme] Linux is Destroying Windows | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/destroying-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/24/destroying-windows/
23:13 TR Bot; [Meme] Linux is Destroying Windows | Techrights
23:13 matey; though unsigned 0 and unsigned 1 might work
23:14 bnchs; unifont has a big bmp file
23:14 matey; i think you get more out of 0 and 1 that way
23:14 MinceR; the sign is just another bit
23:14 bnchs; https://mirror.us-midwest-1.nexcess.net/gnu/unifont/unifont-14.0.03/unifont-14.0.03.bmp
23:14 MinceR; > bmp
23:14 MinceR; why
23:14 bnchs; there's also otf
23:14 matey; the sign is just another bit <- exactly the kind of bloat we want to avoid
23:14 MinceR; lol
23:14 bnchs; and bdf
23:14 bnchs; now tell me how the fuck are you gonna fit this all in the VRAM (if you're dumb)
23:15 matey; bnchs: with compression of course
23:15 bnchs; but should you load teh characters if it's gonna be used? (if you're smart)
23:15 matey; /me hopes lz is enough
23:15 bnchs; matey: opengl doesn't know how to do compression
23:15 bnchs; that's up to the GPU firmware
23:15 matey; bnchs: no, i mean you take the chip and you squeeze it until its compressed
23:15 bnchs; oh
23:16 matey; you can do it with the cpu
23:16 matey; but after compression it needs better cooling
23:16 matey; i just put a metal water bottle full of ice on it
23:16 TR News; "I was reading Conman's latest article, and he linked to a page called Transilvania Times. I wanted to see it, but for the first time since the vote of the GPDR my visit was denied because I'm European." gemini://station.martinrue.com/adou/f3868913db6e409eae9fa67845f70324
23:16 matey; you have to wipe off the condesation from time to time or the leads can corrode
23:17 matey; but you can automate it
23:17 bnchs; wait
23:17 bnchs; you can't just use a image and thats it
23:17 bnchs; you gotta get the information on the font
23:17 matey; what information? its just 0s and 1s
23:18 bnchs; like character table, and tailing
23:18 bnchs; matey: assiging a character code to each X and Y on the font
23:18 matey; pointers!
23:18 matey; hes using c for everything
23:18 bnchs; yes
23:18 matey; so everything can be done with pointers >:)
23:19 bnchs; like unsigned int for the character table
23:19 bnchs; struct char_info character_table[400000000000];
23:19 bnchs; or struct char_info *character_table;
23:19 matey; or just use void()
23:20 matey; if you void a void it becomes an unvoid, you can put anything there
23:20 bnchs; a void function?
23:20 matey; i used that to fix my credit rating, then i moved to canada
23:20 bnchs; i avoid void* as much as i can
23:20 matey; you can also null a null but its dangerous
23:21 bnchs; because it doesn't have compiler-time type safety
23:21 matey; a good compromise is to null a void-- they call it a moot()
23:21 matey; rust uses it for everything
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23:23 *activelow watched a historical movie
23:24 bnchs; i had nightmares about segfaults
23:24 activelow; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalingrad_(1993_film)
23:24 TR Bot; Stalingrad (1993 film) - Wikipedia
23:25 activelow; ^ most authentic, keeping the german audio, with english subtitles
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23:32 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CnmL1KXrz8
23:32 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=9CnmL1KXrz8
23:32 TR Bot; tube.cthd.icu | Cats kissing each other over and over are unbelievably cute - Invidious
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23:43 bnchs__; https://www.unifoundry.com/pub/unifont/unifont-14.0.03/unifont_plane1-14.0.03.bmp
23:43 bnchs__; unifont supports emojis
23:44 bnchs__; it looks kinda better because it has that pixely look
23:44 bnchs__; and no color
23:49 matey; /me likes emojis when theyre made of keyboard characters
23:49 matey; you can do them without graphics
23:49 bnchs__; this is a font that's used in GNU's bootloader
23:49 bnchs__; like i'm pretty sure GRUB can display even more characters than microsoft's ???????????, thanks to this font
23:51 SomeH4x0r; I might try bringing more people from UplinkIRC here, if they are saying they like free software or something, btw
23:51 bnchs__; uplink?
23:51 SomeH4x0r; yes, a chat for Uplink (2001) videogame, people come daily
23:52 SomeH4x0r; almost everyone is from Steam sadly
23:52 MinceR; 25 004910 < matey> /me likes emojis when theyre made of keyboard characters
23:53 MinceR; you mean emoticons and/or kaomoji
23:53 SomeH4x0r; sent you the address in PM
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