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00:00 bnchs; do you have allow_url_fopen enabled in php.ini
00:00 TR News; 1960s stereo console modernized with an Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/23/vintage-stereo-console-modernized-with-a-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
00:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/23/vintage-stereo-console-modernized-with-a-arduino/
00:00 TR Bot; 1960s stereo console modernized with an Arduino | Arduino Blog
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00:00 bnchs; if you don't, then enable it, or we have to use curl
00:01 schestowitz; ; Whether to allow the treatment of URLs (like http:// or ftp://) as files.
00:01 TR Bot; not resolve host: or; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// or )
00:01 schestowitz; ; http://php.net/allow-url-fopen
00:01 schestowitz; allow_url_fopen = On
00:01 TR Bot; PHP: Runtime Configuration - Manual
00:01 bnchs; ok you do
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00:04 TR News; Privileged Conversations: March 2022 - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/privileged-conversations-march-2022/ #publicknowledge should (in another context) promote #encryption otherwise it's a waste of time...
00:04 TR Bot; Privileged Conversations: March 2022 - Public Knowledge
00:05 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/pd6qv
00:05 bnchs; replaced it with curl
00:05 bnchs; just to see if it works
00:05 TR News; Pulling Off A #CRT Transplant Doesnt Have To Be Tricky! | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/23/pulling-off-a-crt-transplant-doesnt-have-to-be-tricky/ #hackaday
00:05 TR Bot; Off A CRT Transplant Doesnt Have To Be Tricky! | Hackaday
00:05 bnchs; since the URL parser also uses curl
00:05 bnchs; schestowitz, ^
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00:06 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:06 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:06 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
00:06 TR Bot; message found
00:07 bnchs; oops
00:07 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/prhsr
00:08 TR News; #Axiomtek limits itself to CPUs with #nsa #backdoors even in 2022 when the world is moving on... https://linuxgizmos.com/3-5-inch-tiger-lake-u-sbc-offers-triple-m-2-slots/
00:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/3-5-inch-tiger-lake-u-sbc-offers-triple-m-2-slots/
00:08 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/3-5-inch-tiger-lake-u-sbc-offers-triple-m-2-slots/ )
00:09 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:09 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
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00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.45
00:11 schestowitz; syntax issue?
00:11 bnchs; hmmm
00:11 bnchs; yes i forgot a semicolon
00:11 bnchs; on 855
00:11 schestowitz; ok
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00:12 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:12 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
00:12 TR Bot; message found
00:13 TR News; Coin Cell Eliminator Does More Than Save Batteries | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/23/coin-cell-eliminator-does-more-than-save-batteries/ #hackaday
00:13 TR Bot; Cell Eliminator Does More Than Save Batteries | Hackaday
00:13 TR News; A General-Purpose Personal Computer https://hackaday.com/2022/02/23/inputs-of-interest-canadian-mcm-70-was-kinda-like-the-first-cyberdeck/
00:13 TR Bot; Of Interest: Canadian MCM/70 Was Kinda Like The First Cyberdeck | Hackaday
00:15 bnchs; hmm
00:15 TR News; #elonmusk and the #militaryIndustrialComplex ? https://hackaday.com/2022/02/23/astras-frugal-design-leads-to-latest-unusual-failure/
00:15 TR Bot; Frugal Design Leads To Latest Unusual Failure | Hackaday
00:17 bnchs; there's an if and else, so why is it not executing the else if it failed
00:17 TR News; #Arduino #Hack but needs to #deletegithub because #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is totally unsuitable for hacking/modding, it's a #censorship monster https://hackaday.com/2022/02/23/pressure-gauge-built-in-a-vacuum/
00:17 TR Bot; Gauge Built In A Vacuum | Hackaday
00:21 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/oxqci
00:21 bnchs; i hope i'm not bothering you too much
00:22 TR News; Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson for February 23, 2022 - GoComics <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2022/02/23"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
00:22 TR Bot; and Hobbes by Bill Watterson for February 23, 2022 - GoComics
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00:22 DaemonFC; I don't even know how a one gallon pump of lube is a thing on Amazon.
00:22 schestowitz-TR; it's ok, i don't mind
00:22 DaemonFC; And frankly, I don't think I want to know.
00:23 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161786 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:23 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:23 DaemonFC; $250
00:24 DaemonFC; Maybe for Mr. Gulag's open sores conference.
00:24 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:24 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:24 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
00:24 TR Bot; error should only appear if the else condition has not been executed
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00:25 DaemonFC; I'm no expert, but I think the else condition has not been executed.
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00:25 bnchs; of course
00:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon we can have a fancy, multi-field thing for videos
00:26 schestowitz-TR; we already got very close earlier
00:26 schestowitz-TR; json object showing up
00:26 schestowitz; Phoronix86, sponsored by AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=xf86-video-amdgpu-22.0
00:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=xf86-video-amdgpu-22.0
00:26 TR Bot; X.Org 22.0 Driver Released With AsyncFlipSecondaries, GLAMOR Fixes - Phoronix
00:27 TR News; "Last week I received (finally) my Fairphone 4, supplied with a de-googled operating system, which I had ordered from the E Foundations shop in December. (Im am very hard on hardware and my venerable #Fairphone 2 is really on its last legs.)" https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/11154.html
00:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/11154.html
00:27 TR Bot; diziet | Rooting an Eos Fairphone 4
00:28 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/5taii
00:29 TR News; https://reclaimthenet.org/facebook-shadowbanning-patent/ (2019, before we all took the interwebs and yelled at each other for two years)
00:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: reclaimthenet.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://reclaimthenet.org/facebook-shadowbanning-patent/
00:29 TR Bot; Facebook's shadowbanning process is now patented
00:29 TR News; #microsoft #windows TCO: "It's not entirely clear right now how the malware is dropped onto victims' machines and run, though in one case, said ESET, an organization's Active Directory server was probably compromised to distribute the wiper through the network via a group policy object." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/
00:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/
00:29 TR Bot; Hundreds of Ukraine computers hit with wiper malware ESET The Register
00:31 TR News; The #cyberattack in #ukraine is a #microsoft #windows thing, but Microsoft-sponsored media keeps throwing in the word #linux to confuse and distract.
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00:34 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:34 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:34 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
00:34 TR Bot; error has occured: https://invidious.snopyta.org/api/v1/videos/yb4IRNtRBk0?fields=title,author
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00:34 schestowitz-TR; ^ latest
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00:34 bnchs; yes
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00:36 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22022066
00:36 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/lftsrih4uki81.gif created on 2022-02-20 23:31:17.987384
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00:37 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/igljh
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00:40 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:40 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
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00:40 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
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00:40 TR Bot; error has occured: INSTANCE: invidious.snopyta.org VIDEO_ID: yb4IRNtRBk0 RESP:
00:40 bnchs; empty response?
00:41 schestowitz-TR; I csan try the other instance
00:41 bnchs; try it
00:42 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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00:42 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
00:42 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
00:42 TR Bot; error has occured: INSTANCE: yewtu.be VIDEO_ID: yb4IRNtRBk0 RESP:
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00:44 TR News; 'Training' people to become enslaved by #adobe #ProprietarySoftware http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/02/23/back-to-school/
00:44 TR Bot; Harvey Tobkes Blog Archive BACK TO SCHOOL
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00:55 bnchs; so file_get_contents just returns an empty string
00:55 bnchs; without any message
00:56 bnchs; i'm gonna sleep anyway goodnight
00:56 schestowitz-TR; thanks
00:56 bnchs; and i hate php
00:56 bnchs; at least i tried
00:57 schestowitz-TR; do you want me to make more changes?
00:57 bnchs; you can use var_dump right?
00:58 schestowitz-TR; not sure
00:58 schestowitz-TR; for now maybe just display the url as alternative to youtube.com
00:59 schestowitz-TR; without extracting any info like title
00:59 bnchs; yeah
00:59 schestowitz-TR; could do the same for nitter.eu
00:59 schestowitz-TR; I did that in bash last year
01:01 TR News; Microsoft-funded SFC today: we are creating a "think tank" to check what #microsoft #github means to #gplViolations disguised as "Hey Hi". We've created for this a group of RMS attackers (RMS is the pioneer of copyleft), who even publicly defended this practice...
01:02 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/ctqnx
01:02 bnchs; patch that does what you said
01:02 bnchs; lets see if it works
01:02 schestowitz-TR; thanks
01:04 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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01:04 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
01:04 bnchs; wait
01:04 schestowitz-TR; syntax?
01:04 bnchs; can you move the */ in line 864 up to line 863
01:07 schestowitz-TR; it's still unhappy about it
01:08 bnchs; https://termsend.pl/o/ie1dr
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01:10 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
01:10 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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01:10 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
01:10 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
01:10 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yb4IRNtRBk0
01:10 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Rosetta Stone: Putin Edition - Invidious
01:10 schestowitz-TR; cool!
01:10 bnchs; ehh
01:10 bnchs; it uses the twitter message format
01:10 schestowitz-TR; that's what we want
01:10 schestowitz-TR; should I push to git?
01:11 schestowitz-TR; or do you want to do more hacking on it?
01:11 bnchs; i commented out the invidious API crap
01:11 bnchs; but i guess push it to git
01:11 schestowitz-TR; OK
01:11 schestowitz-TR; cheers!
01:11 schestowitz-TR; well done
01:11 bnchs; thx
01:12 schestowitz-TR; i'll anme you in the commit log
01:12 schestowitz-TR; as bnchs
01:12 bnchs; sure just bnchs
01:12 schestowitz-TR; gn
01:12 bnchs; gn
01:13 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9hn4IGofM&t=123s
01:13 TR Bot; NO TITLE
01:14 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9hn4IGofM&t=123s
01:14 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Rv9hn4IGofM
01:14 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Iguana vs Snakes | Planet Earth II - Invidious
01:14 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=_JUuPSe9T_8
01:14 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_JUuPSe9T_8
01:14 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_JUuPSe9T_8 )
01:14 schestowitz; I will add handling of www
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01:15 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161787 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:15 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; Devices: #Fairphone , Axiomtek, and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161788 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:18 TR Bot; Devices: Fairphone, Axiomtek, and Arduino | Tux Machines
01:20 TR News; Links 24/2/2022: #TrueNAS SCALE 22.02 and Linux FUD in #Ukraine Clothing Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/23/truenas-scale-22-02/ #Techrights #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/23/truenas-scale-22-02/
01:20 TR Bot; Links 24/2/2022: TrueNAS SCALE 22.02 and Linux FUD in Ukraine Clothing | Techrights
01:21 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161789 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:21 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
01:23 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/videos/Gates6Depo.ogg
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01:23 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
01:23 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wKu13wmHog
01:23 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7wKu13wmHog
01:23 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Kung Fu Mantis Vs Jumping Spider | Life Story | BBC - Invidious
01:23 schestowitz; https://youtube.com/watch?v=7wKu13wmHog
01:23 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7wKu13wmHog
01:24 schestowitz-TR; OK, handles WWW now as well
01:25 MinceR; no title for it though?
01:25 schestowitz-TR; because it is repeaterd
01:25 MinceR; (test) https://youtube.com/watch?v=MTHGsjNX4BY
01:25 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MTHGsjNX4BY
01:25 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Cute cat meows very loudly as if to say I'm so hungry - Invidious
01:25 MinceR; ic
01:25 schestowitz-TR; it was expanded seconds earlier
01:25 schestowitz-TR; it keeps track
01:25 MinceR; nice
01:26 schestowitz-TR; we still need a 'niter' for shithub
01:26 schestowitz-TR; none exists
01:26 schestowitz-TR; and given what microsoft did to linkedin mirrors
01:26 schestowitz-TR; you'd imagine they... go legal, fast
01:26 schestowitz-TR; mafiasoft
01:26 schestowitz-TR; we "own" people's profiles
01:26 MinceR; i've been thinking of an automatic rehost
01:26 MinceR; but it would eat tons of disk space
01:27 schestowitz-TR; or on the fly
01:27 schestowitz-TR; proxy made when you link to it
01:27 MinceR; even if it only rehosts repos you specifically ask it to rehost
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01:46 schestowitz; not it's all tidied up and pushed to git
01:46 schestowitz; MinceR: you could make transient mirrors
01:46 schestowitz; of shituhub
01:46 schestowitz; and then remove them
01:47 schestowitz; just to avoid touching that site directly
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01:49 MinceR; i'm not really concerned with touching the site directly
01:49 MinceR; i'm concerned with MICROS~1 pulling the plug on projects they don't like, or sneaking changes into them
01:53 schestowitz; just passed the same to the other channels
01:53 schestowitz; MinceR: that's the cost of touching ANYTHING "Microsoft"
01:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.45
01:53 schestowitz; so the solution is for projects to delete Microsoft
01:53 schestowitz; and github
01:53 schestowitz; [23:41] <techrights-news> #python is 'dying'. #microsoft bought its founder and now Python is becoming #ProprietarySoftware #slave https://lwn.net/Articles/885854/ #deletegithub
01:53 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/885854/ )
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01:59 TR News; #www #snakeoil #fakePrivacy #illusion #FalseSenseOfPrivacy https://www.maketecheasier.com/incognito-mode-privacy/
01:59 TR Bot; The Truth Behind Private Browsing or Incognito Mode - Make Tech Easier
02:08 TR News; #Debian reconsiders NEW review https://lwn.net/Articles/884301/ #gnu #linux
02:08 TR Bot; reconsiders NEW review [LWN.net]
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02:22 TR News; "Barry, I've been tweaking this a bit to work in my current install of MX Linux." https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?p=50687&i=1 "This is good news, Jason (plinej in the forum) is getting #BluePup to work in #MXLinux " https://bkhome.org/news/202202/bluepup-coming-to-other-distros.html
02:22 TR Bot; NO TITLE
02:22 TR Bot; BluePup coming to other distros
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02:30 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel: #36: pub/sub for live market monitoring with R and Redis http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/02/23#036_pub_sub_for_market_monitoring_with_r_and_redis
02:30 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
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02:31 TR News; I have the #HackenDECK in my hands! 10 things you need to know about the UM700. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=farxrXRM1bc #video #invidious #multimedia
02:31 TR Bot; I have the HackenDECK in my hands! 10 things you need to know about the UM700. - Invidious
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02:33 TR News; "I feel bad that SJVN did not survive until retirement. He was one of the last good ones until he suddenly went over to say-for-pay." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230222.html#tFeb%2023%2010:27:51
02:33 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
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02:34 TR News; "i do not believe any of the current public reporting anymore" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230222.html#tFeb%2023%2012:06:26
02:34 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:35 TR News; "ssl is transport-layer encryption, which isn't the favorable choice with #irc anyway" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230222.html#tFeb%2023%2015:18:27
02:35 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-230222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-230222.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-230222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-230222.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-230222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-230222.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-230222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-230222.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:40 TR News; Overnighty we've added a conversion from #gulagtube URLs to #invidious instances in #irc http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230222.html#tFeb%2023%2022:52:00
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, February 23, 2022
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:49 TR News; In #geminispace both #kristall and #lagrange are unable to handle animated GIF files, they show these as static, at least in #gnu #linux
02:53 TR News; Just added to Gemini a video of the server of the capsule; but I've found no Gemini capsule that can actually play that. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/images/ipfs-lights-sbc.gif
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03:22 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 351944 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39432 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 weeks 2 days ago
03:23 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 57 GB TotalOut: 43 GB
03:24 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
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03:34 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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05:30 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/tech-trends/automakers-need-to-lock-their-doors
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05:30 TR Bot; Automakers Need to Lock Their Doors Against Ransomware
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08:44 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, February 23, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:44 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:45 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:45 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
08:54 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 7.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.43
08:58 TR News; NEWS #OpenSSH #BSD OpenSSH 8.9 Released https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-8.9
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09:01 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Health #Gulag will no longer require US employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/23/22948219/google-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-employees-mask-policy
09:01 TR Bot; Google will no longer require US employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 - The Verge
09:01 TR News; NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Health #Gulag eases pandemic rules for employees in the U.S. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/technology/google-pandemic-rules-us.html
09:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/technology/google-pandemic-rules-us.html
09:01 TR Bot; Google Eases Pandemic Rules for U.S. Employees - The New York Times
09:03 TR News; NEWS #ComputerWorld #Apple #ProprietarySoftware Is Apples #Qualcomm relationship already on the rocks? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3651069/is-apples-qualcomm-relationship-already-on-the-rocks.html
09:03 TR Bot; Apples Qualcomm relationship already on the rocks? | Computerworld
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09:04 TR News; NEWS #ScottHelme Can you get pwned with CSS? https://scotthelme.co.uk/can-you-get-pwned-with-css/
09:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: scotthelme.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://scotthelme.co.uk/can-you-get-pwned-with-css/
09:04 TR Bot; Can you get pwned with CSS?
09:05 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #Privacy #EU looks to end data hoarding by companies https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/eu-looks-to-end-data-hoarding-by-companies/89787955 start with #epo then? http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/
09:05 TR Bot; EU looks to end data hoarding by companies, CIO News, ET CIO
09:05 TR Bot; The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) Needs to Get Its Act Together on the EPOs GDPR Violations | Techrights
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09:08 TR News; NEWS #HelsinkiTimes #Finland #Energy #fi Forecast: Number of plug-in vehicles to rise faster than expected in Finland https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21051-forecast-number-of-plug-in-vehicles-to-rise-faster-than-expected-in-finland.html
09:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21051-forecast-number-of-plug-in-vehicles-to-rise-faster-than-expected-in-finland.html
09:08 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21051-forecast-number-of-plug-in-vehicles-to-rise-faster-than-expected-in-finland.html )
09:08 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Politics #Twitter accounts sharing video from #Ukraine are being suspended when theyre needed most https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/23/22947769/twitter-osint-russia-ukraine-invasion-suspended-error
09:08 TR Bot; Twitter accounts sharing video from Ukraine are being suspended when theyre needed most - The Verge
09:12 TR News; NEWS #Salon #Politics Less than social media: How hashtags have hindered progressive movements and fueled the right https://www.salon.com/2022/02/23/less-than-social-media-how-hashtags-have-hindered-progressive-movements--and-fueled-the-right/
09:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/02/23/less-than-social-media-how-hashtags-have-hindered-progressive-movements--and-fueled-the-right/
09:12 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.salon.com/2022/02/23/less-than-social-media-how-hashtags-have-hindered-progressive-movements-&/ )
09:14 TR News; NEWS #TheHill Accounts highlighting Russian #disinformation improperly suspended, #Twitter says https://thehill.com/policy/technology/595525-accounts-highlighting-russian-disinformation-improperly-suspended-twitter
09:14 TR Bot; highlighting Russian disinformation improperly suspended, Twitter says | TheHill
09:14 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge Trumps Truth Social app cant beat Twitter, but it doesnt have to https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/23/22947756/truth-social-donald-trump-facebook-twitter-talk-radio-rush-limbaugh
09:14 TR Bot; Trumps Truth Social app cant beat Twitter, but it doesnt have to - The Verge
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09:16 TR News; "the only solution to the overreach of big tech, is to use open source operating systems" https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/apple-quack:a 22:45; iophk: thus the massive concerted efforts to derail all the projects, large and small, infiltrating those that cannot be derailed outright
09:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/apple-quack:a
09:16 TR Bot; Does Apple Quack Like a Duck?
09:17 TR News; Contrary to what the so-called Linux Foundation is trying to say, the most toxic element is itself; its maligning the real community while protecting abusive and racist corporations that profit from war and tribalism-motivated hatred http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/
09:17 TR Bot; The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights
09:17 TR News; Not a novel concept, maybe even a marketing stunt in this context https://odysee.com/@purism:8/anti-interdiction-on-the-librem-14:0
09:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@purism:8/anti-interdiction-on-the-librem-14:0
09:17 TR Bot; Anti Interdiction on the Librem 14
09:17 *spazzz is now known as spazz
09:18 TR News; NEWS #BBC #Censorship #Facebook accused of blacklisting #OnlyFans rivals https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60497274
09:18 TR Bot; Facebook accused of blacklisting OnlyFans rivals - BBC News
09:20 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Monopolies #Apple prefers fines to obeying #antitrust order, says #Vestager https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/apple-prefers-fines-to-obeying-antitrust-order-says-vestager/89787999
09:20 TR Bot; apple: Apple prefers fines to obeying antitrust order, says Vestager, CIO News, ET CIO
09:21 TR News; NEWS #TheWashingtonPost #Copyrights To expunge his daughters murder from the Internet, a father created an NFT of the grisly video https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/22/expunge-his-daughters-murder-internet-father-created-an-nft-grisly-video/
09:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/22/expunge-his-daughters-murder-internet-father-created-an-nft-grisly-video/
09:21 TR Bot; Andy Parker created an NFT of his daughter Alison Parkers murder in hopes of ridding it from the web - The Washington Post
09:23 TR News; #gopkkk insurrection party: we not only loathe the word "Democrats" but also "Democracy"
09:26 TR News; iophk: [this] misunderstands the anti-FOSS agenda and goals of HN owners https://bsd.network/@stsp/107820691222804810
09:27 TR Bot; Stefan Sperling: "Oh wow... HN is grieving so much over the lack of" - BSD Network
09:30 TR News; old: DOES THE U.S. #PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE GRANT TOO MANY BAD PATENTS?: EVIDENCE FROM A QUASI-EXPERIMENT https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6324&context=faculty_scholarship #dukescholarship #duke
09:30 TR News; "The non-US world really should be looking at Google, Amazon and Microsoft as analogous to Nord Stream 2." https://mastodon.social/@natecull/107844372291032932
09:30 TR Bot; Nate Cull: "The non-US world really should be looking at Goo" - Mastodon
09:32 TR News; "Now think: these folks also make autonomous killing machines." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107840865053675464
09:32 TR Bot; ar.al: "So how embarrassingly bad? Not reusing salt value" - Arals Mastodon
09:33 TR News; #microsoft funded by US taxpayers through the US Army: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
09:33 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
09:34 TR News; NEWS #FOSSForce #freesw Free & Online: Open Source 101 Coming March 29 With Great Speakers and Wow! Prizes https://fossforce.com/2022/02/free-online-open-source-101-coming-march-29-with-great-speakers-and-wow-prizes/
09:34 TR Bot; Free & Online: Open Source 101 Coming March 29 With Great Speakers and "Wow!" Prizes - FOSS Force
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #TVAddons Adam Lackman Agrees to Pay US$14.5m https://torrentfreak.com/tvaddons-adam-lackman-admits-tv-show-piracy-agrees-to-pay-us14-5m-220224/
↺ https://torrentfreak.com/tvaddons-adam-lackman-admits-tv-show-piracy-agrees-to-pay-us14-5m-220224/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/tvaddons-adam-lackman-admits-tv-show-piracy-agrees-to-pay-us14-5m-220224/
09:34 TR Bot; Adam Lackman Admits TV Show Piracy, Agrees to Pay US$19.5m * TorrentFreak
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Reddit Banned 2,625 Subreddits For Excessive Copyright Infringement in 2021 https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-banned-2625-subreddits-for-excessive-copyright-infringement-in-2021-220223/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-banned-2625-subreddits-for-excessive-copyright-infringement-in-2021-220223/
09:34 TR Bot; Banned 2,625 Subreddits For Excessive Copyright Infringement in 2021 * TorrentFreak
09:36 TR News; Controlling who has and hasn't a voice; or a BIG audience... is the business model of #socialcontrolmedia ... or what they're being subsided for. #censorship
09:48 TR News; "I never had much interest in web development and the complexities that come with it." #javascript became associated with #surveillance and bloat. gemini://kota.nz/notes/javascript_troubles/
09:50 TR News; "I've always attempted to have a general understanding of how all the parts of my computer work together. I don't know or care if it's logical or practical; I love small elegant software." gemini://kota.nz/notes/javascript_troubles/
09:51 TR News; 3 more months and #tuxmachines turns 18
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09:58 TR News; NEWS #ProPublica #proprietarySoftware #TurboTax Maker #Intuit Faces Tens of Millions in Fees in a Groundbreaking Legal Battle Over Consumer #Fraud https://www.propublica.org/article/turbotax-maker-intuit-faces-tens-of-millions-in-fees-in-a-groundbreaking-legal-battle-over-consumer-fraud
09:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/turbotax-maker-intuit-faces-tens-of-millions-in-fees-in-a-groundbreaking-legal-battle-over-consumer-fraud
09:58 TR Bot; TurboTax Maker Intuit Faces Tens of Millions in Fees in a Groundbreaking Legal Battle Over Consumer Fraud ProPublica
10:01 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Medical, Home Alarm Industries Warn Of Major Outages As #ATandT Shuts Down 3G Network https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220221/09103048513/medical-home-alarm-industries-warn-major-outages-as-att-shuts-down-3g-network.shtml
10:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220221/09103048513/medical-home-alarm-industries-warn-major-outages-as-att-shuts-down-3g-network.shtml
10:01 TR Bot; Home Alarm Industries Warn Of Major Outages As AT&T Shuts Down 3G Network | Techdirt
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10:12 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/irc-log-230222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/irc-log-230222/
10:12 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 | Techrights
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10:52 TR News; #redhat hiring is crap. They're bringing the enemy into the company: "she served as commercial director at Microsoft Indonesia" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-know-vony-tjiu-country-manager-red-hat-indonesia
10:52 TR Bot; Getting to know Vony Tjiu, country manager for Red Hat Indonesia
10:54 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Even As #Trump Relies On Section 230 For #TruthSocial , He's Claiming In Lawsuits That It's Unconstitutional https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220222/01034948518/even-as-trump-relies-section-230-truth-social-hes-claiming-lawsuits-that-unconstitutional.shtml
10:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220222/01034948518/even-as-trump-relies-section-230-truth-social-hes-claiming-lawsuits-that-unconstitutional.shtml
10:54 TR Bot; As Trump Relies On Section 230 For Truth Social, He's Claiming In Lawsuits That It's Unconstitutional | Techdirt
11:01 TR News; 7 Things I Want to See in #Ubuntu 22.04 LTS [I Know I Wont Get it] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161790 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:01 TR Bot; 7 Things I Want to See in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS [I Know I Won't Get it] | Tux Machines
11:01 TR News; 5 Best Free and Open Source Digital Asset Management Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161791 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:01 TR Bot; 5 Best Free and Open Source Digital Asset Management Software | Tux Machines
11:10 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Apple Finally Defeats Dumb Diverse #Emoji Lawsuit One Year Later https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220217/13010848495/apple-finally-defeats-dumb-diverse-emoji-lawsuit-one-year-later.shtml "Parrott had created some emojis featuring more diverse and expansive color/skin tones"
11:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220217/13010848495/apple-finally-defeats-dumb-diverse-emoji-lawsuit-one-year-later.shtml
11:10 TR Bot; Finally Defeats Dumb Diverse Emoji Lawsuit One Year Later | Techdirt
11:11 TR News; NEWS #TruthOut #Censorship Trump's "Truth Social" Site, Branded as Beacon of Free Speech, Is Banning Users https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-truth-social-site-branded-as-beacon-of-free-speech-is-banning-users/
11:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-truth-social-site-branded-as-beacon-of-free-speech-is-banning-users/
11:11 TR Bot; Trump's "Truth Social" Site, Branded as Beacon of Free Speech, Is Banning Users
11:12 TR News; [4 years ago] #Gab is Not a Site That Tolerates Nazis. It is a Nazi Site That Bans People Who Object to Nazism. Its a Censorship Site With a Dangerous Agenda. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2018/11/06/gab-is-pro-nazis/
11:12 TR Bot; Blog Archive Gab is Not a Site That Tolerates Nazis. It is a Nazi Site That Bans People Who Object to Nazism. Its a Censorship Site With a Dangerous Agenda.
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11:14 DaemonFC; I posted, on Facebook: "The funny thing was that even Trump, idiot that he was, told Europe to stand up and get ready to defend itself, and they dismissed the need for a capable defensive force. The Germans have the biggest military budget in the EU (post-Brexit) and only spend half of what NATO requires of their military. The historical irony will note that when World War 3 started, Russia just took whatever it wanted, perhaps even Germany, in
11:15 DaemonFC; a Hitler-style grab, because Europe didn't do the bare minimum and make sure they had working tanks and attack helicopters in case this day ever arrived."
11:15 DaemonFC; Angela Merkel rolled her eyes and kept spending half the minimum that NATO requires, figuring the US would intervene at some point if war were to break out.
11:16 DaemonFC; For the last 70+ years, Europe has been so decadent and corrupt that that's been their entire defense strategy.
11:16 DaemonFC; Figure that the US will get involved if they come under attack, shortchange their defense budgets, and spend on welfare programs, and then mock the United States pretty openly while at the same time pointing at "treaty obligations" to defend them.
11:17 DaemonFC; Of course, treaties always work out very well.
11:18 DaemonFC; I predict that many people in the US will "feel bad" about what's going on "over there".
11:18 DaemonFC; But that there will be a big movement to stay out of Europe's problems.
11:18 DaemonFC; It would only be the third time.
11:20 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Privacy #Surveillance #Clearview Pitch Deck Says It's Aiming For A 100 Billion Image Database, Restarting Sales To The Private Sector https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220218/13594848498/clearview-pitch-deck-says-aiming-100-billion-image-database-restarting-sales-to-private-sector.shtml
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11:20 TR Bot; Pitch Deck Says It's Aiming For A 100 Billion Image Database, Restarting Sales To The Private Sector | Techdirt
11:25 DaemonFC; https://vivaldi.com/blog/why-vivaldi-will-never-create-thinkcoin/
11:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: vivaldi.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vivaldi.com/blog/why-vivaldi-will-never-create-thinkcoin/
11:25 TR Bot; Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin | Vivaldi Browser
11:25 DaemonFC; I replied:
11:25 DaemonFC; First off, let me say thanks. Brave partnered with Uphold as their cryptocurrency exchange partner, and Uphold is locking people out of their accounts and seizing thousands of dollars from some customers. Many more have had account takeovers and lost everything.
11:25 DaemonFC; Yet more, Uphold did not issue 1099-B tax forms by the IRS deadline 8 days ago and is now in violation of the United States Internal Revenue Code and puts all of their customers at risk of a tax audit by forcing them to figure out their own Capital Gains taxes to report to the IRS.
11:25 DaemonFC; Uphold itself is a horrible scam, and in Techrights, we've taken to calling it "HoldUp".
11:29 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/szrfkp/not_surprised_remember_she_didnt_even_know_how_to/
11:29 TR Bot; Not surprised, remember she didn't even know how to read : LateStageCapitalism
11:29 DaemonFC; As the Arthur TV series ends, the tattle tale who couldn't read grew up to become a police officer.
11:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, MinceR https://abc7chicago.com/apple-store-hostage-amsterdam-ransom-of-cryptocurrencies-suspect-chases/11591801/?ex_cid=TA_WLS_FB
11:32 TR Bot; Amsterdam Apple Store suspect run over by police while chasing hostage, authorities say - ABC7 Chicago
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11:42 DaemonFC; I love how the surveillance videos of a robbery in Chicago shows a line of inflatable tents that homeless people are sleeping in.
11:42 DaemonFC; Bang up job by mayor Lightfoot.
11:43 DaemonFC; The news has no comments about the tent cities. Just that the businesses were robbed.
11:46 XRevan86; Oh fuck
11:48 XRevan86; Today is the worst day of my life.
11:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 19.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.42
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11:55 XRevan86; I would've felt like I woke up in an alternative reality if I hadn't been slipping into it already for the past decade.
11:56 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Peloton Outage Prevents Customers From Using $2,500 Exercise Bikes https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220222/08400148521/peloton-outage-prevents-customers-using-2500-exercise-bikes.shtml
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11:56 TR Bot; Outage Prevents Customers From Using $2,500 Exercise Bikes | Techdirt
11:58 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt The GOP Knows That The Dem's #Antitrust Efforts Have A Content Moderation Trojan Horse; Why Don't The Dems? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220221/00070948511/gop-knows-that-dems-antitrust-efforts-have-content-moderation-trojan-horse-why-dont-dems.shtml
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11:58 TR Bot; GOP Knows That The Dem's Antitrust Efforts Have A Content Moderation Trojan Horse; Why Don't The Dems? | Techdirt
11:58 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ye were laughing at the US intelligence' information.
11:59 TR News; #patent #patents #vaccines #monopolies https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/23/game-changer-defying-big-pharma-who-expands-vaccine-tech-sharing
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11:59 TR Bot; 'A Game-Changer': Defying Big Pharma, WHO Expands Vaccine Tech Sharing
11:59 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: their guess is as good as anybody's
11:59 schestowitz-TR; a hunch based on probabilities
12:00 schestowitz-TR; and MAYBE
12:00 schestowitz-TR; in itself a self-fulfilling prohecy
12:00 schestowitz-TR; iow, maybe egging Putin on... to actually do this
12:00 XRevan86; schestowitz: It wasn't a self-fulfilling prophecy for sure.
12:00 schestowitz-TR; [11:48] <XRevan86> Today is the worst day of my life.
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12:00 schestowitz-TR; because of politics?
12:01 schestowitz-TR; i read that (iirc) finland is taking russian-speaking tv off the air
12:01 schestowitz-TR; very nlittle for russians to gain
12:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe good for Vlad's ego
12:01 XRevan86; My friends are in direct danger, I'm partly responsible.
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12:01 schestowitz-TR; life threatening?
12:01 XRevan86; The economy is in shambles.
12:02 schestowitz-TR; how are you responsible?
12:02 schestowitz-TR; or are those 2 separate things?
12:02 schestowitz-TR; btw, the economy is globally in the toilet
12:02 schestowitz-TR; china, us, europe, russia
12:02 XRevan86; schestowitz: Only in that I'm on this side of the border.
12:02 psydroid4; When was the (Russian) economy not in shambles?
12:03 schestowitz-TR; it works ok for russians in london, crete, malta, cyprus...
12:03 XRevan86; It's been bad since 2013, now it's in shambles, know the difference.
12:03 schestowitz-TR; [09:25] <techrights-news> NEWS #CounterPunch #uk #borisnaro Londongrad: Putins Easy Access To The #Tories https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/23/londongrad-putins-easy-access-to-the-tories/
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12:03 TR Bot; Putins Easy Access To The Tories - CounterPunch.org
12:03 psydroid4; What has caused that? And what makes it so the Russian economy can't become good?
12:04 psydroid4; I'm not lazy and try to read as much as possible before stating an opinion, but I haven't been able to read much about Russia yet apart from what I learned in school
12:04 schestowitz-TR; btw, being "Russian" doesn't mean it's your fauly many Ukrainians can die
12:04 schestowitz-TR; as you hardly participate in any meaningful way in politicvs
12:04 schestowitz-TR; it barely looks like you have a proper election, ever...
12:05 psydroid4; But yes, I have many Ukrainian friends from all over the country who can tell me everything about the Ukrainian side of things
12:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: But it will make it sound hypocritical that I also consider myself a victim of war
12:05 XRevan86; At least a literal bomb can't fall down on my head.
12:06 schestowitz-TR; not yet
12:06 schestowitz-TR; manchester was blitzed not too long ago
12:06 schestowitz-TR; 80 years
12:06 schestowitz-TR; some buildings were rebuilt since
12:06 schestowitz-TR; some
12:07 schestowitz; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-pictures-photos-b2022210.html
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12:07 TR Bot; Ukraine war: In pictures | The Independent
12:07 schestowitz; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-60505277
12:07 schestowitz; content warning:
12:07 TR Bot; In pictures: Destruction and fear as war hits Ukraine - BBC News
12:07 schestowitz; UK gov. propaganda
12:08 schestowitz; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/24/pictures-russian-troops-tanks-enter-ukraine/
12:08 TR Bot; Latest pictures: Civilians in firing line as Russia attacks Ukraine
12:08 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> It's been bad since 2013, now it's in shambles, know the difference.
12:08 DaemonFC; Same here.
12:09 schestowitz; Old: (photos)
12:09 schestowitz; https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/02/a-year-of-war-completely-destroyed-the-donetsk-airport/386204/
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12:09 TR Bot; A Year of War Completely Destroyed the Donetsk Airport - The Atlantic
12:09 DaemonFC; Each year, it gets worse while they tell us there's a recovery, for the 14th year running.
12:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
12:09 DaemonFC; Politicians..... Same everywhere, I suppose. In that sense.
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12:11 psydroid4; I'm more specifically interested in why Russia with all of its scientific development can't build an economy that is up there with the best of them
12:13 DaemonFC; The US can barely even have a post office now.
12:13 DaemonFC; With Louis DeJoy still jackhammering in the middle of the night.
12:13 DaemonFC; What the fuck is he still doing there? Biden must not want rid of him very much.
12:13 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Don't even try to compare.
12:14 XRevan86; Dollar grew from 79 roubles to 83 roubles today.
12:14 DaemonFC; Russia bans protests. The US doesn't. (officially)
12:14 XRevan86; And we thought 79 was bad.
12:14 DaemonFC; Unofficially, the police show up and unofficially fire teargas and rubber bullets at you, and CNN.
12:15 DaemonFC; They just declare everything a major riot now.
12:15 TR News; ALL top 5 stories in #bbc at the moment are about #russia and #ukraine ... as #borisnaro sighs in relief. #covid19 fiasco is off the headline...
12:15 DaemonFC; Showing up dressed in riot gear to provoke people.
12:16 DaemonFC; Slipping cops into the crowd wearing plain clothing to throw something at the uniformed cops.
12:17 DaemonFC; Well, obviously Putin sees no danger to himself from making the people there suffer greatly.
12:17 XRevan86; It comes as a surprise.
12:17 DaemonFC; That just means he's so well burrowed in that nobody can do anything about him.
12:18 DaemonFC; Repressive governments tend to pay the military and their secret service quite well.
12:18 XRevan86; This means he can sacrifice a lot just to punish Ukraine.
12:18 DaemonFC; That way, there's a bunch of people protecting them from their adoring public.
12:18 DaemonFC; As your currency goes to shit, Putin will just increase pay for these people so they don't feel any of it.
12:18 DaemonFC; And then they'll keep protecting him from all of you.
12:19 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> This means he can sacrifice a lot just to punish Ukraine.
12:19 DaemonFC; What is he sacrificing, exactly?
12:19 DaemonFC; He has fake elections and then poisons the people who ran against him and throws them in jail.
12:20 DaemonFC; So we have the only two ways he can lose power or be killed covered.
12:20 schestowitz-TR; hungary shates border with ukrussia
12:21 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure MinceR knows...
12:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, they could be next.
12:21 DaemonFC; But also Poland and Georgia are likely.
12:21 DaemonFC; There's really little stopping a march across Europe.
12:22 DaemonFC; Tanks from Belarus were pouring over the border with Ukraine this morning.
12:22 XRevan86; DaemonFC: He's one of the richest men in the world.
12:22 DaemonFC; Nothing was being done to stop them by the Ukrainian military.
12:22 XRevan86; But all this money is in the offshores.
12:22 DaemonFC; Even though that would have been the ideal place to engage them.
12:22 DaemonFC; There were very tall old growth trees on both sides of the road.
12:23 DaemonFC; If they blew up a few of the lead tanks, it would create a kill zone.
12:23 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> But all this money is in the offshores.
12:23 DaemonFC; Insurance policy.
12:24 DaemonFC; In case he has to flee quickly and set up somewhere else, he can take his stolen wealth with him.
12:24 XRevan86; Now he has nowhere to go.
12:24 DaemonFC; There's alays somewhere.
12:24 DaemonFC; The Nazis resettled in South America.
12:25 DaemonFC; They kept stashes of foreign currencies in a bugout bag in case things started to go wrong for the German war effort.
12:25 TR News; Important update on #joinDiapora https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/537493b07655013ae0f352540086c3e0
12:25 TR Bot; An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.com
12:25 DaemonFC; As long as you got on a plane before the paratroopers started dropping in, you were probably going to get out. :)
12:26 TR News; #HowTo find UUID of Disk Storage with the simple command Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161792 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
12:26 TR Bot; How to find UUID of Disk Storage with the simple command | Tux Machines
12:26 DaemonFC; Hitler could have survived the war if he hadn't insisted on staying in that bunker.
12:26 DaemonFC; Even he could have found someone willing to harbor him.
12:27 TR News; #Linux Candy: terminal-parrot - party parrot time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161793 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:37 TR News; 2 Best #FreeSW Racket Static Site Generators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161794 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:37 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161795 #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:37 TR News; 3 Top #FreeSW Julia Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161796 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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12:45 XRevan86; 84 roubles for a dollar.
12:45 XRevan86; One year ago it was 73
12:47 XRevan86; 62 in December 2019, pre-COVID-19
12:49 TR News; The admin of #pluspora died and #joindiaspora will, after all, shut down too. So sad... "If anyone from joindiaspora.com or pluspora is looking for a new pod to host your profile, please let me know and Ill send you an invite for mine, which has been running fine for eight plus years now." https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/948904
12:49 TR Bot; If anyone from joindiaspora.com or pluspora is looking for a new po...
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13:27 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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13:28 MinceR; 24 132054 < schestowitz-TR> hungary shates border with ukrussia
13:28 MinceR; it does
13:28 MinceR; but it's already a colony of the russian empire
13:28 MinceR; which could mean that russia would try to annex it only later, since they practically already own it
13:28 MinceR; but it could also mean that they'd get it early for a quick win
13:29 MinceR; show the drones that putler can paint this part of the map too
13:29 MinceR; but that would end their lobbyist in the EU and their spy in the NATO
13:29 MinceR; so i guess it depends on whether putler thinks there's anyone in the EU or the NATO who doesn't realize hungary is just his puppet
13:34 TR News; Links 24/2/2022: Little About Tech as #Ukraine Dominates News Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/ukraine-dominates-news/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/ukraine-dominates-news/
13:34 TR Bot; Links 24/2/2022: Little About Tech as Ukraine Dominates News | Techrights
13:34 XRevan86; Where's SomeH4x0r?
13:35 XRevan86; I know he lives in Ukraine, but I don't know which region.
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13:41 psydroid4; in the eastern part
13:41 psydroid4; he speaks Russian as his first language
13:42 psydroid4; and he said he might not be back anytime soon
13:42 psydroid4; in his quit message this morning
13:42 XRevan86; Oh, I didn't see the quit message.
13:43 CrystalMath; maybe he lives in DPR/LPR?
13:43 XRevan86; I know he won't see it, but: SomeH4x0r, good luck, and I'm sorry.
13:43 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Doubtful.
13:43 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Russia is actually attacking Ukraine *outside* DPR/LPR.
13:44 CrystalMath; that is true, and unfortunate
13:44 CrystalMath; but ukraine was attacking DPR and LPR for 8 years
13:44 CrystalMath; and nobody but me seemed to complain about it
13:45 MinceR; there's no "DPR" and "LPR"
13:45 CrystalMath; MinceR: yes there is, they declared independence
13:45 MinceR; putler declared them to exist because he believes it supports his agenda
13:45 CrystalMath; no, they existed since 2014
13:45 MinceR; CrystalMath: i declare independence of all humans from all states
13:45 MinceR; there. they do not exist.
13:46 XRevan86; CrystalMath: DPR/LPR are bandits who've taken the population hostage.
13:46 CrystalMath; MinceR: then there is alos no ukraine :P
13:46 CrystalMath; *also
13:46 MinceR; and also no russia
13:46 CrystalMath; MinceR: the people to the west were throwing explosive objects before the people on the east were
13:46 CrystalMath; so ther
13:46 CrystalMath; *there
13:47 MinceR; that sounds awfully specific
13:47 MinceR; and also false
13:47 CrystalMath; the people on the east just said "this is not your state anymore"
13:47 CrystalMath; and that state fired upon them
13:47 CrystalMath; believe it or not, that *always* happens
13:47 MinceR; ah yes, unlabeled russian soldiers said "this is not ukraine anymore"
13:47 CrystalMath; i live in a state that also fired upon people who declared independence, and then got bombed for it
13:47 MinceR; and since they weren't wearing russian flags, this is now fact
13:48 MinceR; you'll live in russia too
13:48 XRevan86; MinceR: CrystalMath would be okay with that.
13:48 MinceR; i know
13:48 XRevan86; We're all on the same page.
13:49 CrystalMath; MinceR: but if you believe in independence, you should know that to get it you have to face horrors, every time
13:49 MinceR; but if we surrender the eastern bloc to russia, the least we could do is deport all the authoritarian scum from the parts we keep into the russian empire
13:49 CrystalMath; just look at the catalan republic :(
13:49 MinceR; i'm tired of authoritarians taking over everywhere
13:49 MinceR; CrystalMath: not the same as putler's adventures
13:49 MinceR; CrystalMath: also, becoming part of russia is not "independence"
13:50 XRevan86; MinceR: What should be done is UN-recognised borders of states should be defended.
13:50 MinceR; and i guarantee that neither the catalan republic, nor scotland, nor the basque would want their region to become part of russia
13:50 CrystalMath; XRevan86: so no kosovo? no israel?
13:50 CrystalMath; XRevan86: i think it's too late for that
13:50 CrystalMath; and besides, that would not go along with MinceR's idea of people being free
13:51 CrystalMath; (nor mine)
13:51 MinceR; people are more free outside of shitholes like russia and red china, even if they have a state
13:51 CrystalMath; MinceR: they don't always feel that way
13:51 MinceR; people are usually stupid
13:51 XRevan86; PRC supports Russia in this, kind of.
13:51 MinceR; that's why fascism and stalinism are so popular
13:52 CrystalMath; preserving borders no matter what is just immensely stupid
13:52 CrystalMath; it's better to listen to the will of the people
13:52 MinceR; the solution would be deploying nuclear weapons or kinetic orbital strikes against all major cities and military bases in russia and red china
13:52 XRevan86; That came to me as a surprise, because I don't really get what PRC gets out of helping Russia.
13:52 MinceR; maybe we'd even survive it
13:52 MinceR; but even if we wouldn't, at least they wouldn't get to turn us all into slaves
13:52 MinceR; oh, let's not forget north korea either
13:52 XRevan86; CrystalMath: That is a bit before my time.
13:53 CrystalMath; MinceR: you're a psycho if you really believe that
13:53 XRevan86; Ironically, Russia supported Kosovo.
13:53 XRevan86; and then it forgot it did
13:53 MinceR; XRevan86: i think winnie the pooh imagines that taiwan is like ukraine, even though it isn't
13:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.41
13:53 MinceR; CrystalMath: no, the people you support are psychos
13:53 CrystalMath; XRevan86: russia supported serbia so far, against kosovo
13:53 XRevan86; MinceR: Ah, now it makes more sense.
13:53 MinceR; CrystalMath: you'd accept being turned into a slave as long as you "feel free" while it happens
13:54 TR News; In case I quit #socialcontrolmedia altogether (next month), follow me over RSS feeds. Personal: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/feed/ Techrights: http://techrights.org/feed/
13:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: no, i wouldn't want to become a citizen of the west :P
13:54 MinceR; XRevan86: also, they imagine they stand together against the "free" world
13:54 MinceR; CrystalMath: then either the west will save your country, or you will become a slave
13:54 CrystalMath; america and the west is not the free world, it's a horrible evil
13:54 MinceR; putler doesn't care for you
13:54 XRevan86; MinceR: PRC is the more successful of the authoritarians.
13:54 MinceR; winnie the pooh doesn't care for you
13:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: if the west takes over here, i'll have to run away
13:54 XRevan86; MinceR: So they have the most to lose.
13:55 MinceR; XRevan86: well, winnie the pooh is getting tired of letting others run the economy, so he'll probably fuck that up too
13:55 XRevan86; But they really want Taiwan, so that analogy makes sense.
13:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: i consider america and the west slavery
13:56 CrystalMath; imagine being so "free" that you need to be vaccinated to go to a grocery store
13:56 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Join a literal dictatorship, be free.
13:56 CrystalMath; XRevan86: i don't know if russia is better, but maybe; i already know china isn't better
13:56 MinceR; CrystalMath: yeah, i know, you think they're the same. then become a slave of putler, what do i care?
13:56 CrystalMath; but in america/canada/the west, it's bad
13:56 XRevan86; I'm willing to swap places.
13:57 MinceR; unfortunately, they won't let you use the Internet for long in the russian empire
13:57 MinceR; so we will lose contact with each other
13:57 MinceR; because, you know, "freedom" includes Internet censorship.
13:57 XRevan86; It's a possibility, yea.
13:57 CrystalMath; MinceR: like i said i don't know if it's necessarily better in russia
13:58 CrystalMath; but since the west is not great, they have no right to take over the whole world
13:58 CrystalMath; then we will have no competition
13:58 MinceR; neither does russia or red china
13:58 CrystalMath; i believe in a multipolar world with competition
13:58 MinceR; one of these sides is annexing countries
13:58 MinceR; the other isn't
13:58 CrystalMath; russia will never take over the US
13:58 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Imagine that the competition to Linux is Windows.
13:58 MinceR; that should be a pretty good hint for which one is more free
13:58 XRevan86; That's the kind of competition ye want.
13:59 MinceR; both owned by the same corporation?
13:59 XRevan86; MinceR: Let's not go into that territory.
14:00 CrystalMath; MinceR: that's also concerning, what if russia is working with the same evil people that run the west... who knows
14:00 CrystalMath; maybe we won't get that competition i'm hoping for :(
14:00 MinceR; there's no competition in a command economy
14:01 XRevan86; I wonder where activelow is also. His opinions reliably give me a headache.
14:01 MinceR; lol
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14:03 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_credit_card
14:03 TR Bot; Monument to credit card - Wikipedia
14:03 kingoffrance; is that east or west?
14:04 MinceR; east
14:04 kingoffrance; edward bellamy east?
14:04 XRevan86; kingoffrance: Err, middle.
14:04 MinceR; it's in russia
14:04 kingoffrance; francis bellamy, us pledge
14:04 kingoffrance; "christian socialist" mason
14:04 XRevan86; Right, we were talking about Eastern and Western *Ukraine*.
14:05 XRevan86; And this is the most prominent city of Siberia, Russia.
14:05 kingoffrance; pirate bellamy if you go back further :D wealthiest pirate ever, a "socialist" :D
14:05 schestowitz; Putin chose a good time to attack
14:05 CrystalMath; XRevan86: then MinceR erased all borders and we had less orientation
14:05 schestowitz; as NATO nations are reeling over not just COVID
14:05 schestowitz; and Russia to them will be "just some additional issue"
14:05 schestowitz; the media here is trying to deflect from the other crisies
14:06 schestowitz; but shifting ALL media attention to Russia
14:06 schestowitz; those are classic tactics
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14:06 schestowitz; I'm about to record 4 videos
14:06 schestowitz; techrights is not in social control media
14:06 schestowitz; I might not be in it either
14:06 schestowitz; soon, next month
14:07 schestowitz; the internet is a reflection of the world
14:07 schestowitz; rotting and crumbling
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14:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: "but shifting ALL media attention to Russia" <- I can hardly blame them. But I'm biased.
14:09 TR News; Next month I might leave behind 13 years of #socialcontrolmedia crap. I was VERY VERY reluctant to join in the first place (people pushed me repeatedly to join identica, which I eventually did). Looking back at the whole thing, I'd better not say what I think...
14:09 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: late stage capitalism
14:09 schestowitz-TR; phase 1: blame the poor
14:09 schestowitz-TR; phase 2: blame trump
14:09 schestowitz-TR; phase 3: blame nature (Covid)
14:09 schestowitz-TR; now we try the "external enemy"
14:10 schestowitz-TR; and Putin obliges
14:10 MinceR; what is "capitalism"?
14:12 TR News; Had I never bothered with #socialcontrolmedia at all, there would be a lot more stuff produced in my personal spaces, which cannot be taken down against my will (like half a dozen "social" 'media' sites with their "financial" interests). Follow me over RSS feeds. Personal: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/feed/ Techrights: http://techrights.org/feed/
14:12 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: a cancer-like econom y
14:12 schestowitz-TR; it always expands
14:12 schestowitz-TR; until it outgrows the body's system
14:12 schestowitz-TR; then everything dies
14:12 MinceR; ah, so all human economy
14:12 MinceR; got it
14:13 schestowitz-TR; pretty much
14:13 schestowitz-TR; too many humansd, tbh
14:13 schestowitz-TR; that's what "the system" wants
14:13 schestowitz-TR; more troops
14:13 schestowitz-TR; for the dick-tator to have more power and ego
14:13 schestowitz-TR; and more "production"
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14:13 schestowitz-TR; animals other than humans are now part of it ("production")
14:13 schestowitz-TR; and the terms likewise
14:14 schestowitz-TR; "animal farming"
14:14 schestowitz-TR; we don't say "human farming"
14:14 kingoffrance; XRevan86, CrystalMath> america and the west is not the free world, it's a horrible evil you *were* talking about ukraine, yes
14:14 schestowitz-TR; apparently I cannot say "slavery" either
14:14 schestowitz-TR; because someone might get offended on behalf of long-dead ancestors
14:14 CrystalMath; kingoffrance: ukraine is about as evil as a kitten in comparison to the US
14:14 kingoffrance; there's bankers. that's it
14:15 schestowitz-TR; bbiab
14:15 kingoffrance; "the US" doesnt mean anything
14:15 kingoffrance; meaningless statement
14:15 schestowitz-TR; today is mentally chaotis not just because of geopolitics
14:15 kingoffrance; astrology, novus ordo seclorum
14:15 kingoffrance; thats the ultimate authority of "the US"
14:15 kingoffrance; egypt
14:15 schestowitz-TR; *chaotic also in joindiapora/diaspora project
14:15 kingoffrance; is egypt east or west?
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14:53 kingoffrance; there's no us except an annexation of pharoah. the only question is who is playing pharoah?
14:53 kingoffrance; *pharaoh
14:56 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/812588.jpg
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14:56 kingoffrance; thats why its the "american dream"...it was always astrology
14:56 kingoffrance; there's no other basis there :D
14:58 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc
14:58 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc
14:58 TR Bot; yewtu.be | George Carlin - The American Dream - Invidious
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15:34 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/d1f5w8y3hbd81.jpeg
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15:42 TR News; The decision is not final yet, but this might be my last month in #socialcontrolmedia so if you want to read material that I post online use RSS. Personal: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/feed/ Techrights: http://techrights.org/feed/ working on 4 videos in tandem at the moment.
15:54 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.40
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16:08 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: hi
16:08 SomeH4x0r; hi
16:09 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: Poiekhavshyj Died has decided it's time
16:09 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: How are ye holding up?
16:10 SomeH4x0r; I don't care about the panic, mostly
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16:14 TR News; #Nautilus 42 Arrives in Ubuntu 22.04 Daily Builds Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161799 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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16:14 TR News; #KFLuff New #KRunner web shortcuts for development and user support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161800 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:14 TR Bot; KFLuff New KRunner web shortcuts for development and user support | Tux Machines
16:14 TR News; 10 Best Free and Open Source Anti-Malware Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161801 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:14 TR Bot; 10 Best Free and Open Source Anti-Malware Tools | Tux Machines
16:24 TR News; Under #IBM Management, #RedHat Has No Will to Survive Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/microsoft-hat/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/microsoft-hat/
16:24 TR Bot; Under IBM Management, Red Hat Has No Will to Survive | Techrights
16:26 TR News; Follow Techrights over RSS: http://techrights.org/feed/ #socialcontrolmedia is a #censorship platform; don't allow other people or corporations decides for you what you can and cannot see
16:37 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/kpp33rr9zjc81.jpeg
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17:10 kingoffrance; lol MinceR . anyone, do a search for western civilization/philosophy/religion/society ...you will quickly see they are meaningless terms
17:10 MinceR; why do you connect those together
17:10 MinceR; civilization doesn't exist on earth
17:10 kingoffrance; :)
17:10 MinceR; western philosophy exists
17:10 MinceR; religion exists and is killing minds
17:11 MinceR; society sucks
17:12 kingoffrance; well romulus and remus founded rome. who founded greece? you just end up with "astrology" any which way you go :D
17:12 MinceR; lol
17:14 kingoffrance; The Minoans were the first great Greek civilisation. so you end up with a minotaur lol
17:15 kingoffrance; thats the only "history" you will find :D
17:17 kingoffrance; i dare anyone, find one country not founded on astrology
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17:29 schestowitz; DaemonFC: wanna read draft on end of joindiapora?
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17:41 TR News; The End of #JoinDiaspora . Thanks for All the Fish... Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/joindiaspora-technical-debt/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/joindiaspora-technical-debt/
17:41 TR Bot; The End of JoinDiaspora. Thanks for All the Fish | Techrights
17:41 TR News; Follow #Techrights over RSS feeds: http://techrights.org/feed/ #socialcontrolmedia may be deprecated soon, cannot be relied upon...
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17:51 SomeH4x0r; I have issues resolving techrights.org with Tor
17:51 SomeH4x0r; wtf
17:54 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22022054
17:54 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/xmnkt1gq9ni81.jpg created on 2022-02-20 20:25:54.645246
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17:57 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: tor browser?
17:57 SomeH4x0r; no, tor-resolve and TorDNS
17:58 schestowitz-TR; blame president putin
18:00 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22022416
18:00 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://sha1sum.ngrok.io/uploads/dd6f2c889d32fe76/8167afbf5d6e108c.jpg created on 2022-02-24 05:03:43.813456
18:10 schestowitz-TR; I don't suppose making ukraine memes is apprpriate now?
18:10 schestowitz-TR; given that people are dying?
18:11 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: right?
18:11 SomeH4x0r; I don't care tbh
18:11 schestowitz-TR; because of EPO, I am tempted
18:11 schestowitz-TR; to make some meme
18:11 SomeH4x0r; if you ban someone for them, I will leave
18:11 schestowitz-TR; with reference to kremlin
18:11 bnchs; memes do not kill people
18:19 schestowitz-TR; ok, will make a meme
18:29 TR News; Better Late Than Never: #ILO Subjects the EPOs Management to Some Belated Justice (Sans the Removal of Immunity, so Nobody is Being Held Accountable) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/ilo-slams-the-epo/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/ilo-slams-the-epo/
18:29 TR Bot; Better Late Than Never: ILO Subjects the EPOs Management to Some Belated Justice (Sans the Removal of Immunity, so Nobody is Being Held Accountable) | Techrights
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18:38 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/relax-your-eyes-to-see-the-picture-1.jpg
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18:43 schestowitz; MinceR: http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/epo-complicity/
18:43 TR Bot; [Meme] Josef the Spectator | Techrights
18:43 schestowitz; does this offend anyone?
18:43 MinceR; everything offends someone
18:43 SomeH4x0r; offend? SJW begin to attack?
18:45 bnchs; this meme seems like nothing to me
18:46 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: nexst I'll publish about your project
18:46 schestowitz-TR; you can see your name in the commit log today
18:46 MinceR; there are people who are paid to be offended, like bully deblanc
18:46 MinceR; or matthew googlette
18:46 MinceR; or GAFAM, or whatever
18:47 TR News; [Meme] Josef the Spectator Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/epo-complicity/ #Techrights #EPO #Crime #Corruption #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/epo-complicity/
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19:03 XRevan86; Ariadne: https://nitter.eu/ariadneconill/status/1496690279079985152#m what about OpenSearch?
19:03 TR Bot; Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "elasticsearch might be another contender, for the same reason. alpine will not ship packages under licenses that do not meet OSI guidelines" | nitter
19:09 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: do you want to see a draft?
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19:12 bnchs; about what?
19:13 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/self-host-if-possible/
19:13 TR Bot; We Need to Start Self-Hosting Wherever and Whenever Possible | Techrights
19:13 schestowitz; it mentions the IRC stuff
19:13 schestowitz; it's a draft still
19:17 bnchs; ok
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19:20 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/21/mind-blowing-scientific-facts/
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19:20 TR Bot; People Are Sharing Mind Blowing Scientific Facts In This Viral Thread (30 Pics)
19:25 DaemonFC; Sorry, I was asleep. Not really here. UPS is showing me where the driver is, but they look like they're close and keep circling the neighborhood.
19:26 DaemonFC; I was setting my phone to wake me up every so often to look.
19:26 bnchs; he's trolling
19:26 DaemonFC; I don't want my phone stolen. The you know who did the you know what over at T-Mobile's store here the other day.
19:27 DaemonFC; Tossed a brick through the window and made off with stacks of phones and tablets.
19:27 DaemonFC; So they had nothing in stock and I had to order it off the web.
19:27 MinceR; Voldemort?!
19:27 bnchs; i bet they were remotely bricked
19:27 bnchs; samsung has a feature that remotely bricks smart TVs
19:27 bnchs; you think you own them but you don't
19:27 MinceR; well, if the brick someone tosses in through the window hits a "smart" TV, it might well brick the TV
19:27 DaemonFC; The windows and the door were boarded up.
19:28 DaemonFC; MinceR, None of them are smart enough to know what remote brick is.
19:28 DaemonFC; They see something they want and they brick the glass to go in and get it.
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19:28 bnchs; oops
19:28 DaemonFC; Then while I was waiting to be told there were no phones instead of having the guy tell me that an hour earlier, some more of them came in with no masks and started a verbal argument about whether masks stop COVID or not.
19:29 bnchs; remote bricking is bad anyway
19:29 DaemonFC; And then walked out and got masks, and came back in, and told the T-Mobile guy he was "one dumb motherfucker".
19:29 DaemonFC; :)
19:29 DaemonFC; Which may have been true, for other reasons.
19:30 bnchs; i don't care if some retards steal electronics from a terrible store
19:30 DaemonFC; Like, if you know all the phones were stolen, wouldn't you tell customers who say "I want to upgrade my phone.", "Sorry, all of them were stolen last night."?
19:30 bnchs; but remote bricking them also means that remote bricking is also in other TVs that have been legally "bought"
19:30 DaemonFC; Yes, they can disable any TV they want, even if it's by mistake.
19:31 bnchs; if it was a bunch of old "dumb" TVs
19:31 DaemonFC; If one that has a serial that's one letter or number off from yours is reported stolen incorrectly by a police detective on a list, then you might be watching TV one evening and the screen just shuts off.
19:31 bnchs; the store owner and manufactor would cry to sleep
19:31 TR News; We Need to Start #SelfHosting Wherever and Whenever Possible Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/self-host-if-possible/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/self-host-if-possible/
19:31 TR Bot; We Need to Start Self-Hosting Wherever and Whenever Possible | Techrights
19:31 DaemonFC; And your TV won't ever come back on.
19:32 bnchs; people can just steal the "dumb" TVs
19:32 bnchs; and then samsung can go fuck themselves
19:33 SomeH4x0r; evil devices
19:33 bnchs; last time i used samsung "smart" tv
19:33 schestowitz-TR; aka humans
19:33 bnchs; it had a remote desktop connection
19:33 SomeH4x0r; evil "protection", fake excuses
19:34 bnchs; i thought it supported VNC
19:34 bnchs; but it only supported microsoft's garbage protocol
19:34 bnchs; and M$ office
19:35 bnchs; samsung is in bed with microsoft
19:35 DaemonFC; I'm excited. I think the modem in the new phone will actually work and I know there's no Microsoft shit baked into it.
19:35 DaemonFC; The last Samsung phone that had no Microsoft shit in it was the S5.
19:35 DaemonFC; That was also their last really good phone.
19:35 SomeH4x0r; fuck "smartphones" in general
19:35 bnchs; samsung "smart" TV only supports microsoft's RDP
19:35 schestowitz; gift https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NZXT-Vulkan-ID
19:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NZXT-Vulkan-ID
19:35 TR Bot; Developing Some Sort Of New Vulkan-Supported Software For Gamers - Phoronix
19:36 DaemonFC; Vizio TVs do support DLNA.
19:36 DaemonFC; Or at least mine does.
19:36 bnchs; instead of supporting some other remote graphical connection protocol
19:36 psydroid4; RDP for what?
19:36 psydroid4; built-in?
19:36 bnchs; yes
19:36 bnchs; built-in
19:36 bnchs; you can't use anything other than RDP anyway
19:36 DaemonFC; But the DLNA server software on GNU/Linux is unpleasant to use.
19:36 DaemonFC; It basically needs wherever the media is to be world read/write/execute.
19:36 DaemonFC; Or else nothing appears on the client side.
19:37 psydroid4; I have never connected the "smart" TV I use as a monitor to the internet
19:37 DaemonFC; And the reference server at least works, but the one built into GNOME doesn't even do that.
19:37 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161802 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:37 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
19:37 DaemonFC; I couldn't get the DLNA server in GNOME to show anything on the client except MP3 files.
19:37 bnchs; i'm pretty sure samsung was bribed to implement microsoft's only protocol
19:38 TR News; Challenging epic RPG adventure 'Tails of Iron' gets Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/challenging-epic-rpg-adventure-tails-of-iron-gets-linux-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/24/#latest
19:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/challenging-epic-rpg-adventure-tails-of-iron-gets-linux-support
19:38 TR Bot; epic RPG adventure 'Tails of Iron' gets Linux support | GamingOnLinux
19:38 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
19:38 DaemonFC; It doesn't know what MKV files with HEVC and AAC are, even if you have the codecs for gstreamer.
19:38 bnchs; i'm mad
19:38 DaemonFC; And it also can't play MKV files with AV1 and Opus.
19:38 psydroid4; bnchs, Samsung was sued by Microsoft
19:38 DaemonFC; Which are becoming more popular.
19:38 psydroid4; and now they are Microsoft's slave
19:38 TR News; Dota 2 gets another new hero with Primal Beast, Techies reworked | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/dota-2-gets-another-new-hero-with-primal-beast-techies-reworked/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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19:38 TR Bot; 2 gets another new hero with Primal Beast, Techies reworked | GamingOnLinux
19:38 DaemonFC; The pirate scene is adopting AV1 and Opus.
19:38 bnchs; oh so now that tells me why the TV only supports RDP
19:38 bnchs; and has office 365 advertisment
19:39 DaemonFC; Most rips are from Blu Ray discs, and AV1 and Opus is similar at 2.5 GB total to what it takes HEVC/AAC 4 GB to do and AVC/AAC about 7-8 GB.
19:39 psydroid4; https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-samsung-elec-lawsuit-idUSKBN0G152K20140801
19:39 TR Bot; sues Samsung in U.S. over patent royalties | Reuters
19:39 DaemonFC; AV1 is handled by hardware acceleration on my laptop.
19:39 TR News; Millions of #gnu #linux devices with #kde to ship https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/steam-deck-what-to-expect-for-launch-tomorrow-with-nearly-800-titles-playable
19:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/steam-deck-what-to-expect-for-launch-tomorrow-with-nearly-800-titles-playable
19:39 TR Bot; Deck - what to expect for launch tomorrow with nearly 800 titles Playable | GamingOnLinux
19:40 DaemonFC; So it uses about the same resources to decode as HEVC.
19:40 psydroid4; https://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-samsung-elec-settlement-idUSKBN0LD2LA20150209
19:40 TR Bot; Samsung settle contract dispute over patents | Reuters
19:40 TR News; Without #windows https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/02/musk-says-he-wants-to-install-steam-games-in-tesla-infotainment-centers/ #microsoft will try to crash the launch of #steamDeck with FUD
19:40 TR Bot; Musk says he wants to install Steam games in Tesla infotainment centers | Ars Technica
19:41 DaemonFC; I watched a movie in AV1 with Mandy last night.
19:41 bnchs; musk should go in the pit with tim
19:41 DaemonFC; He goes "You have that already!?".
19:41 bnchs; and bill and david
19:41 TR News; Dwarf Fortress gets a roadmap, GNU/Linux version included | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/dwarf-fortress-gets-a-roadmap-linux-version-included/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games m/2022/02/24/#latest
19:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/dwarf-fortress-gets-a-roadmap-linux-version-included/
19:41 TR Bot; Fortress gets a roadmap, Linux version included | GamingOnLinux
19:41 DaemonFC; It would have taken four times longer with h.264.
19:42 DaemonFC; We're now talking thousands of movies on a single hard drive.
19:42 DaemonFC; I wonder if the MPAA will freak out and try to declare hard drives illegal now.
19:42 bnchs; imagine playing a game while driving on a tesla
19:42 DaemonFC; They sued in the 1980s to declare that the VCR was illegal.
19:42 bnchs; i wonder how many car crashes elon had to downplay or coverup via NDA
19:42 DaemonFC; When the court ruled against them, they put movies out on the VCR and made many billions of dollars.
19:43 bnchs; DaemonFC, in the rise of clown storage
19:43 bnchs; they will outlaw hard drives
19:43 bnchs; and only allow small flash chips for consumers
19:44 DaemonFC; Well, the upcoming hard disks will allow for virtually unlimited storage.
19:44 DaemonFC; They're talking 40-50 TB hard disks coming in 5 years.
19:45 kingoffrance; well, only pedophiles/terrorists/drug dealers use those things. im sure they will avoid ever mentioning "hard drives" and bury it in a barrage of new terms
19:45 bnchs; yes
19:45 kingoffrance; contraband
19:45 bnchs; they'll cherry pick details
19:45 bnchs; and say pedos and terrorists use hard drives
19:45 bnchs; boom outlawed
19:45 kingoffrance; unlicensed outlaw storage
19:46 DaemonFC; The problem has gone from it being possible to copy movies privately in your own home, but the quality wasn't great and they weren't able to be stored efficiently (VHS) to "You can download every movie out there and put it on a single hard drive.".
19:46 DaemonFC; Because of advancements in hard drives and in media codecs.
19:46 kingoffrance; insecure legacy devices without online clown anti virus scanning
19:46 DaemonFC; And you can do it in high definition too, now.
19:46 DaemonFC; My dad had thousands of movies on tapes, but you had to go into the basement and look through bankers boxes.
19:47 DaemonFC; He had them sorted out alphabetically into rows.
19:47 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArVid 2 and 4 GB on vhs
19:47 TR Bot; ArVid - Wikipedia
19:47 DaemonFC; One day a water pipe burst, and I had to go shut it off. Luckily, it was over on the side with the laundry machines.
19:47 DaemonFC; It could have destroyed every tape down there.
19:47 kingoffrance; dead links imply the ISA card was maybe $100 USD
19:50 DaemonFC; They've been putting anti-copying things on computers for a very long time. I think maybe Apple and Microsoft did it first.
19:50 DaemonFC; Apple had a BIOS that displayed a message if you did some keystrokes that only a few people knew and Steve Jobs demonstrated it in court when someone claimed to have reverse engineered their BIOS.
19:50 DaemonFC; And Microsoft rigged Commodore BASIC to say "Microsoft!" if you issued a certain command.
19:51 DaemonFC; It was meant so that if Commodore extended it without their permission and didn't pay them licenses, they knew to do this in court to prove it was theirs.
19:52 bnchs; good
19:52 DaemonFC; Then you had all sorts of things like code wheels where the game would make you align 4-5 runes and enter the word, or ask what the 13th word in paragraph 3 on page 7 of the manual was.
19:52 bnchs; it also means that the reverse-engineered BIOS doesn't have it
19:52 DaemonFC; AD&D games did this, the gold box one.
19:53 DaemonFC; Then there were disks with fake bad sectors so copying would fail. Disk drives would try to correct the bad sectors and when the setup program saw "good" sectors, it knew to accuse you of piracy and bail out.
19:53 TR News; Linux devs are faster, Sad #SteamDeck compat news, Intel ramps up Linux support - Linux News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nuXAJlHv044 #video #invidious
19:53 DaemonFC; Then there were CDs and DVDs with bad sectors, like Cactus Data Shield and Macrovision.
19:53 TR Bot; Linux devs are faster, Sad Steam Deck compat news, Intel ramps up Linux support - Linux News - Invidious
19:53 DaemonFC; And finally, and here we are today.
19:54 DaemonFC; Malware that just hooks right into the Windows kernel and runs functionality tests on it, and sets up a rootkit.
19:54 DaemonFC; And Microsoft signs this.
19:54 TR News; "The #Linux secret behind the new #TrueNAS release, Intel acquires a major Kernel contributor and our thoughts on #Podman 4.0." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147737/linux-action-news-229/
19:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147737/linux-action-news-229/
19:54 TR Bot; Linux Action News 229 | Jupiter Broadcasting
19:55 bnchs; you can actually inject a native program while the system is booting
19:56 bnchs; in windows
19:56 bnchs; if you have regedit access
19:56 TR News; #HeroicGamesLauncher 2.2 (plus a hotfix) adds GOG support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/heroic-games-launcher-22-plus-a-hotfix-adds-gog-support/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
19:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/heroic-games-launcher-22-plus-a-hotfix-adds-gog-support/
19:56 TR Bot; Games Launcher 2.2 (plus a hotfix) adds GOG support | GamingOnLinux
19:56 DaemonFC; The only reason Windows is around is legacy applications and because it would be far too expensive for one company to go back and repair everything they did wrong.
19:57 DaemonFC; It's an OS that was designed for PCs, not to be flexible, and now it pretty much only does that.
19:57 bnchs; a win32 native program that runs in true ring 0 level
19:57 bnchs; along with csrss.exe and others
19:57 DaemonFC; The native API is not win32.
19:57 TR News; All Hands on Deck: Preparing for the #SteamDeck - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/all-hands-on-deck-preparing-for-the-steam-deck/ #boilingsteam
19:57 TR Bot; All Hands on Deck: Preparing for the Steam Deck - Boiling Steam
19:57 DaemonFC; Win32 is an API personality.
19:57 bnchs; i mixed up terms
19:58 bnchs; s/win32//
19:58 DaemonFC; They implemented Win32 the same way they implemented their old POSIX support layer and OS/2.
19:58 bnchs; the problem is that the native program can run as a rootkit
19:59 DaemonFC; As far as I know, nobody ever wrote any Windows programs for the POSIX layer.
19:59 DaemonFC; It was there because government procurement rules required some level of POSIX compatibility.
19:59 DaemonFC; It was not meant to be used. In fact, they limited it to where you wouldn't even want to use it.
19:59 MinceR; it probably doesn't even work anymore since they decided to make everything depend on the windows layer anyway
19:59 bnchs; i wish they made microsoft implement full POSIX support
20:00 MinceR; i wish they executed all of MICROS~1's management
20:00 DaemonFC; Microsoft has had three POSIX-like systems in Windows. The POSIX API personality, the Windows Subsystem for UNIX Applications, and Windows Subsystem for Linux. Four if you count the fact that the original WSL was so bad they designed something else entirely and called it WSL2.
20:00 bnchs; i wish bill gates' dad aborted bill
20:00 bnchs; by hand
20:02 TR News; A Day before Launch, The Steam Deck Has Almost 800 Games Ready (Playable and Verified) - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/a-day-before-launch-the-steam-deck-has-almost-800-games-ready-playable-and-verified/ #boilingsteam
20:02 TR Bot; A Day before Launch, The Steam Deck Has Almost 800 Games Ready (Playable and Verified) - Boiling Steam
20:03 psydroid4; what is the native API for Windows?
20:03 psydroid4; and how do you write code for it?
20:03 MinceR; it's a ridiculous mess
20:04 schestowitz-TR; WHICH WIndows|?
20:04 bnchs; http://hex.pp.ua/nt-native-applications-shell-eng.php
20:04 TR Bot; Native shell a command prompt for native mode
20:04 schestowitz-TR; CE?
20:04 bnchs; this exists
20:04 schestowitz-TR; Vista?
20:04 MinceR; NT API + Win32 API + some random DLLs + some random mess for "universal" applications or whatever + etc
20:04 schestowitz-TR; ME?
20:04 schestowitz-TR; Windows cannot compete with Linux because of fragmentation.. Windows'
20:04 schestowitz-TR; there is only ONE Linux
20:04 bnchs; native shell literally still runs in Windows 11
20:04 schestowitz-TR; kernel.org
20:04 bnchs; even though it was written for windows xp
20:08 TR News; Discover SLAX, a Debian Desktop So Tiny on Your Pocket Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161803 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:08 TR Bot; Discover SLAX, a Debian Desktop So Tiny on Your Pocket | Tux Machines
20:08 bnchs; has anyone used the native API for rootkits
20:08 bnchs; since it runs in the same level as CHKDSK
20:09 TR News; "Here is also an accelerated timelapse of the screen recording captures while making this digital painting illustration with the software Krita 5.0.2 on Kubuntu Linux." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article894/the-market
20:09 TR Bot; The market - David Revoy
20:09 TR News; #Games : Heroic Games Launcher, #SteamDeck Hype, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161804 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:09 TR Bot; Games: Heroic Games Launcher, Steam Deck Hype, and More | Tux Machines
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20:11 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22022042
20:11 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/gru15sg45qi81.jpg created on 2022-02-20 16:04:06.741386
20:12 TR News; #RedHat seems to be falling apart and now it recruits from the company least suitable as a source of workforce; this isnt some isolated incident but part of a long-going pattern or trend http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/microsoft-hat/
20:13 TR Bot; Under IBM Management, Red Hat Has No Will to Survive | Techrights
20:13 TR News; The End of #JoinDiaspora . Thanks for All the Fish... Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/joindiaspora-technical-debt/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/joindiaspora-technical-debt/
20:13 TR Bot; The End of JoinDiaspora. Thanks for All the Fish | Techrights
20:13 DaemonFC; If I left GNU/Linux on my laptop, it would probably be for Chrome OS at this point.
20:13 DaemonFC; Honestly.
20:14 DaemonFC; It has the "Linux subsystem".
20:14 TR News; Theres some good news from Geneva; the #EPO is being served many rulings that reaffirm its negative stigma in spite of #AntnioCampinos wasting millions of Euros on lawyers who fight his own staff Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/ilo-slams-the-epo/ #Techrights #GNU #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/ilo-slams-the-epo/
20:14 TR Bot; Better Late Than Never: ILO Subjects the EPOs Management to Some Belated Justice (Sans the Removal of Immunity, so Nobody is Being Held Accountable) | Techrights
20:14 DaemonFC; So it does run all of the applications Debian can.
20:14 MinceR; lol
20:14 DaemonFC; Which is fine for me. As far as a practical matter.
20:15 DaemonFC; MinceR, Mozilla's been neglecting their sync system.
20:15 TR News; The EPOs fake chief (Josef) has done absolutely nothing to hold Benot Battistelli accountable and keep #AntnioCampinos honest Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/epo-complicity/ #Techrights #EPO #Corruption #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/24/epo-complicity/
20:15 TR Bot; [Meme] Josef the Spectator | Techrights
20:15 DaemonFC; Most of the time, when you update something on one end, it does not propagate to the other browsers you're logged into.
20:15 DaemonFC; Failfox. Sink.
20:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was thinking about getting two bumper stickers.
20:16 TR News; The #clowncomputing bubble is going to burst sooner or later, just like #socialcontrolmedia ; we need to prepare for the implosion and keep information circulating http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/self-host-if-possible/#comments
20:16 TR Bot; We Need to Start Self-Hosting Wherever and Whenever Possible | Techrights
20:16 DaemonFC; "My brakes work. How's your insurance?"
20:16 DaemonFC; and.... "Driver carries $50....in ammunition.".
20:19 bnchs; windows 10 was released 6 years ago
20:19 bnchs; time flies
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20:46 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/1709235
20:46 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21688090_10155715128583633_5090730685845720894_o.jpg?oh=51358ca29ebb7093e13dbf7fd3716e81&oe=5A48D4A9 created on 2017-09-23 05:07:39.188605
20:54 DaemonFC; Okay, I renewed my city window sticker online. If you do it early, they knock $5 off.
20:54 DaemonFC; Says they repealed the dog and cat tax.
20:54 DaemonFC; I was joking with mom about that.
20:54 DaemonFC; "80,000 people in the city and there's 4 dogs and 2 cats."
20:54 DaemonFC; :)
20:54 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
20:57 DaemonFC; Oddly, they charge you to use a credit card on your city sticker if you do it at town hall, but they don't if you do it online.
20:58 MinceR; city slicker
20:58 DaemonFC; So I can knock another 80 cents off (credit card points) and not have to go to city hall by doing it online.
20:59 DaemonFC; Or you can drop the application and a check in the mail. That way the post office can lose the application and check -or- the sticker itself, MinceR
20:59 DaemonFC; And you have to pay for a stamp. :)
20:59 DaemonFC; For some reason, the post office seems to lose outgoing mail less often than my incoming mail.
21:01 DaemonFC; But once you drop it in a mailbox, you have no idea where it is, unless you pay to track it. Then if they lose it, it changes from where it's at to "Your parcel is still in our system and is continuing to its destination. Rest assured that it will arrive eventually.".
21:01 DaemonFC; MinceR, The famous "I paid extra for two day shipping, and then you kept my money and it took 37 days." rate.
21:02 DaemonFC; The DeJoy of Christmas special.
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21:29 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/17092228
21:29 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/umxkn5jyt0mz.jpg created on 2017-09-22 16:57:50.023505
21:36 DaemonFC; MinceR, Someone on Reddit complained that when the city he lives in built a road that was designed to dead end with a perfect view of the lake, the private property owner planted hedges there to block the view.
21:36 DaemonFC; I said, "Well, it's not like you couldn't park there, get out, and spray it all down really good with Roundup.
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21:37 DaemonFC; "It's quiet, nobody would ever know you did that, and the property owner could either look as a bunch of dying shrubs or dig them back out."
21:37 MinceR; :>
21:50 CrystalMath; MinceR: russia blasted open the crimean canal dam, allowing millions of people to have water again
21:50 MinceR; whoop-de-fucking-do
21:50 CrystalMath; today was a good day
21:51 MinceR; ask the ukrainians they murdered about that
21:51 CrystalMath; the fascists that wanted to block people from having water?
21:51 CrystalMath; i don't talk to fascists
21:51 MinceR; riiiiight
21:51 MinceR; everyone who is opposed to vladolf putler is a "fascist"
21:51 MinceR; if vlad wants to enslave you and you don't want to be a slave, you're automatically a "fascist"
21:51 CrystalMath; if you think that if people don't vote the way you want and don't want to be in your country, they should die of thirst, you're a fascist
21:52 CrystalMath; what, you think people were enjoying the water shortage?
21:52 CrystalMath; because of how 80% of them voted
21:52 MinceR; how would you vote with an AK held to your head?
21:52 MinceR; is that referenda are supposed to work now?
21:52 CrystalMath; i would rather die than support america, but i would vote for Putin no problem
21:53 MinceR; why don't you move to russia then
21:53 XRevan86; That referendum had absolutely no control. But that is obvious.
21:53 CrystalMath; MinceR: regardless of the referendum though, who blocked out the water supply?
21:53 MinceR; apparently some people are so enamored with fascist dictators that to them, it's not obvious
21:53 CrystalMath; and is blocking out the people's water supply humane?
21:54 MinceR; CrystalMath: is blocking gas better?
21:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: Putin hasn't blocked gas though
21:54 CrystalMath; ukraine blocked water for 8 years now
21:54 CrystalMath; it's only been unblocked now
21:54 bnchs; how do they drink
21:54 CrystalMath; name one time when russia blocked gas for 8 years
21:55 CrystalMath; also, ukraine never unblocked it, russian troops blew the dam up
21:55 MinceR; what's the matter, russia can take over the region, they can fake a referendum, they can build a bridge, but they can't build a water pipe and can't transport water over road?
21:55 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Nice knowledge there, it was blocked only recently.
21:55 CrystalMath; XRevan86: i read on wikipedia ukraine blocked crimea's water supply in 2014
21:56 CrystalMath; also i heard about this years ago
21:56 MinceR; and you believe everything you read on wikipedia
21:56 CrystalMath; from a russian friend
21:56 MinceR; "it's OK, our trolls edited the page, comrade"
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21:56 CrystalMath; MinceR: there are serbian people reporting from DPR as well, detailing ukraine's crimes against humanity
21:56 MinceR; and you believe all of it
21:56 CrystalMath; sure, why wouldn't i?
21:57 CrystalMath; i'm a personal witness to western lies
21:57 MinceR; you haven't heard of
21:57 XRevan86; Ah, no, I confused myself because of the drought.
21:57 kingoffrance; CrystalMath, what is your definition of "western" ?
21:58 kingoffrance; proud boys?
21:58 MinceR; CrystalMath: have you forgotten the russian occupation of your country already?
21:58 CrystalMath; kingoffrance: the alliance of western europe, the united states, canada, and australia
21:58 kingoffrance; ok, thank you
21:58 CrystalMath; MinceR: the what?
21:58 MinceR; or you have a 1-bit mind that buys into false dichotomies?
21:58 CrystalMath; MinceR: what russian occupation?
21:58 kingoffrance; CrystalMath, how about england?
21:58 MinceR; the one that kept the eastern bloc under russian control until they destroyed their own economy
21:58 CrystalMath; kingoffrance: i count that as western europe
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21:59 CrystalMath; MinceR: we weren't a part of that
21:59 MinceR; oh well, you're free to sacrifice yourself to the russians
21:59 MinceR; learn the hard way
21:59 CrystalMath; and my question wasn't answered
21:59 CrystalMath; ukraine blocked out crimea's water for 8 years
21:59 CrystalMath; is that not a crime against humanity?
22:00 CrystalMath; you defend those people?
22:00 MinceR; does ukraine owe the russians a water supply?
22:00 CrystalMath; MinceR: they blocked a river
22:00 MinceR; russians blocked many rivers, afaik
22:01 CrystalMath; because they would rather have people die of thirst than accept that they don't want to be in their country
22:01 MinceR; didn't they even cause the aral sea to mostly dry up during the previous russian empire?
22:01 CrystalMath; that's a very high fascist "power level"
22:01 MinceR; people didn't want to be in russia
22:01 MinceR; your entire premise is based on a lie
22:01 CrystalMath; ukraine blocked up water for millions of people for 8 years
22:01 CrystalMath; it doesn't matter what others id
22:02 CrystalMath; *did
22:02 CrystalMath; that's a crime against humanity
22:02 CrystalMath; and you support those people
22:02 XRevan86; MinceR: It's unknown whether they were, because the referendum is a lie.
22:02 MinceR; russians caused millions of ukrainians to starve to death
22:02 MinceR; XRevan86: yet CrystalMath pretends that it is known
22:02 XRevan86; MinceR: Yes.
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22:03 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/17092130
22:03 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/n453pzx9u0nz.jpg created on 2017-09-21 17:39:58.015158
22:04 CrystalMath; MinceR: i wonder what was bothering the people more, not having water or being in russia
22:04 CrystalMath; judging by what the people there said, it's not having water
22:05 CrystalMath; ukraine: "let's kill them all because they're in russia, that makes it okay"
22:05 MinceR; let me guess, russian propaganda media reported "what the people there said"
22:06 CrystalMath; MinceR: no it was a british journalist who went there
22:06 CrystalMath; he made a good documentary
22:06 CrystalMath; but, he is pro-russian
22:06 CrystalMath; i mean who wouldn't be
22:06 MinceR; RT managed to pay a british "journalist", even?
22:06 CrystalMath; whoever knows these facts would be pro-russian
22:06 MinceR; i think most people who remember what russians did to the eastern bloc would be anti-russian
22:07 CrystalMath; i truly don't care about what communists did... communists created ukraine and gave it crimea for free
22:07 MinceR; of course you don't care
22:07 MinceR; and so it will be done to you again
22:07 MinceR; and if it's up to you, it will also be done to everyone else in your country
22:07 CrystalMath; it's still quite shocking to hear that you're okay with millions of people being without water
22:08 CrystalMath; what kind of logic is that
22:08 CrystalMath; the only logic i see is
22:08 MinceR; right, i should have changed my mind based on that allegation
22:08 CrystalMath; ukraine wanted to punish people for wanting to be in russia
22:08 MinceR; i should have ran to putler and asked for my shackles and chains.
22:08 CrystalMath; MinceR: even XRevan86 confirmed that ukraine did this
22:09 CrystalMath; suppose if crimea had ukrainians living there, who wanted to live in ukraine instead - why would ukraine kill them? think about it
22:09 CrystalMath; or rather, want to kill them
22:09 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Crimean_Canal
22:09 TR Bot; North Crimean Canal - Wikipedia
22:09 XRevan86; I'll just reference Wikipedia to not get involved.
22:10 MinceR; lol
22:10 MinceR; wikipedia is unreliable in any matter in which putler's empire has a hand
22:10 MinceR; they've been writing bullshit into wikipedia for decades and jimbo did jack shit about it
22:11 CrystalMath; MinceR: it's the truth
22:11 CrystalMath; and yes, also the part about russia lying about the water supply not being that bad - it WAS bad
22:12 CrystalMath; ukraine was truly trying to kill those people
22:12 MinceR; russia didn't care about them either, obviously
22:12 XRevan86; > Water flows by gravity from Tavriysk to Dzhankoy, where it is elevated by four pump stations to a height of over 100 m (330 ft) to energize its continued downstream flow.
22:12 XRevan86; I guess Ukraine is obligated to supply Crimea even when it's occupied, right?
22:12 MinceR; apparently so
22:13 MinceR; everyone has an obligation to supply regions administered by russia; russia doesn't have an obligation to supply anything to anyone.
22:13 MinceR; what a comfortable position to be in
22:14 XRevan86; MinceR: Russia has the obligation to be upset when others don't do Putin's bidding.
22:14 MinceR; lol
22:14 MinceR; unfortunately, being upset has been devalued
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22:15 CrystalMath; it's funny, this is exactly the kind of situation that is often put against me as a libertarian, "but what if someone buys all the land that supplies water to you and cuts it"
22:15 CrystalMath; well, as we can see, this happens in a non-libertarian world as well
22:15 CrystalMath; because some people (current ukrainians authorities at least) are inhumane monsters
22:16 MinceR; how is it libertarian to support a christian fundamentalist dictator?
22:16 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Maybe don't annex land?
22:16 MinceR; "but the republicans said so"?
22:16 CrystalMath; XRevan86: you have no proof it's annexed
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22:16 MinceR; lol
22:16 CrystalMath; XRevan86: and also, there's plenty of proof that the people living there ARE russians
22:16 CrystalMath; including census results, which always had >50% russians for crimea
22:17 XRevan86; CrystalMath: According to Putin, Ukraine is 100% Russians.
22:17 MinceR; russian military forces occupied crimea, then, after some maneuvering, russia announced that crimea is now part of russia
22:17 MinceR; maybe you should look up "annex" in a dictionary.
22:17 CrystalMath; MinceR: according to your... what was the word
22:17 MinceR; according to everyone who isn't trying to push putler's agenda
22:18 CrystalMath;
22:18 CrystalMath; that's it
22:18 MinceR; i'm not russian secret services
22:18 CrystalMath; yes, well, it just means disinformation or something
22:18 MinceR; aren't you a slav who uses cyrillic writing?
22:19 CrystalMath; yes, i can read it
22:19 psydroid8; according to Putin all of Hungary consists of current and former Russians
22:19 CrystalMath; but i don't always know the precise meanings of the words
22:19 MinceR; then again, maybe russians decided that the dictator in charge of your country was a heretic by the time you were born
22:20 CrystalMath; MinceR: i believe that the people of crimea, which all voted for Yanukovich (can be proven) were upset about Euromaidan (american-paid morons) taking away their election result
22:20 CrystalMath; so they declared independence
22:20 MinceR; lol
22:20 XRevan86; I wonder if an open Jew who speaks Russian better than Ukrainian Volodimir Zelensky is one of the Nazis Putin is trying to purge.
22:20 MinceR; so where do the russian soldiers come in?
22:20 CrystalMath; i mean, listen, i'm a person who ALWAYS votes "NO!!!" to the EU
22:20 CrystalMath; i would be very upset if NO won, and then some morons try to overturn that
22:21 CrystalMath; NO means NO
22:22 CrystalMath; the EU is a horrible organization that some people who happen to live geographically in europe (unfortunately) DO NOT WANT
22:22 MinceR; apparently some of those people want to live in russia
22:22 CrystalMath; i consider the EU the worst stinking pile of garbage on this planet
22:22 MinceR; i think those people should just move to russia
22:23 CrystalMath; honestly, russia is only great to me because it's the only way to stop the EU
22:23 XRevan86; MinceR: And so we understand why exactly CrystalMath is so pro-Russian.
22:23 CrystalMath; otherwise the EU would just take over everyone with their fascist dictatorship
22:23 MinceR; i see you're not familiar with russia, or red china, or north korea, or venezuela, or cuba, or nicaragua
22:23 MinceR; lol
22:23 CrystalMath; MinceR: well, i want a multipolar world
22:23 MinceR; CrystalMath: i see you have no idea what a fascist dictatorship is
22:23 CrystalMath; people will be more free in a multipolar world
22:23 MinceR; CrystalMath: and how many millions of people are you willing to sacrifice to get it?
22:23 XRevan86; MinceR: Yanukovich was sabotaging the integration with the EU, that was the cause of the protests.
22:24 CrystalMath; XRevan86: if i was living in ukraine, that's exactly why i would vote for yanukovich
22:24 XRevan86; It was in law but he had his own plans (Russia).
22:24 MinceR; people are so keen to proclaim that ukraine should be a buffer zone. apparently keeping over 40 million people in slavery to get that buffer zone is an acceptable cost.
22:24 CrystalMath; where i live, i'm always voting for the most hopeful eurosceptics
22:24 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/02/russias-most-cut-throat-hackers-infect-network-devices-with-new-botnet-malware/
22:24 TR Bot; Russias most cutthroat hackers infect network devices with new botnet malware | Ars Technica
22:25 XRevan86; But that wasn't actually the reason why Yanukovich got the boot.
22:25 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/ransomware-extortion-doesnt-stop-after-paying-the-ransom/
22:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/ransomware-extortion-doesnt-stop-after-paying-the-ransom/
22:25 TR Bot; Ransomware extortion doesnt stop after paying the ransom
22:25 XRevan86; What destabilised the situation greatly was the order for Berkut to open fire.
22:25 MinceR; in red china, almost 1.5 billion people live as slaves owned by the CPC, but yay, there's another pole!
22:25 MinceR; fuck this kind of "thinking"
22:26 XRevan86; And then after this level of escalation he decided that he likes to live in Rostov.
22:26 XRevan86; !
22:26 MinceR; "i happily consign billions of people to a life of slavery, and i call myself a libertarian"
22:26 MinceR; laughable.
22:26 CrystalMath; MinceR: when the western world was left as the only pole, my city got bombed
22:27 MinceR; that's mainly because if your dictator
22:27 CrystalMath; but there's no telling how bad the world could get
22:27 MinceR; s/if/of/
22:27 MinceR; yes, dictatorships harm the people under them
22:27 AdmFubar; https://foreverwars.substack.com/p/unofficial-torture-cia-pennsylvania-no-ukraine
22:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://foreverwars.substack.com/p/unofficial-torture-cia-pennsylvania-no-ukraine
22:27 TR Bot; Pennsylvania Man Charged With Torture Outside Official CIA Channels
22:27 MinceR; notice this pattern
22:27 CrystalMath; MinceR: AMERICA bombed us
22:27 CrystalMath; MinceR: innocent civilians
22:27 MinceR; and we can have multiple poles that are not dictatorships
22:28 CrystalMath; america bombed iraq, afghanistan, syria, libya
22:28 MinceR; the EU could be one of them, if it wasn't so corrupt and impotent
22:28 CrystalMath; america helps israel kill innocent palestinians
22:28 CrystalMath; the western world is literally the greatest evil on earth
22:28 MinceR; no, it literally isn't
22:28 CrystalMath; the british empire has billions of deaths under its belt
22:28 MinceR; russia and other stalinist dictatorships are literally the greatest evil on earth
22:28 CrystalMath; the western world is the greatest evil on earth
22:29 XRevan86; Anyway, Yanukovich left the country, and then a bunch of Green Men entered the country.
22:29 CrystalMath; it wants to rule the entire world, did even hitler want that?
22:29 MinceR; oh, it does?
22:29 MinceR; so, did it annex crimea in 2014?
22:29 XRevan86; And soon after Crimea left the country with the Green Men.
22:29 MinceR; is it annexing the rest of ukraine now?
22:29 CrystalMath; MinceR: where is crimea
22:29 MinceR; it's the southernmost part of ukraine
22:29 CrystalMath; calculate the distance between crimea and russia
22:29 CrystalMath; now calculate the distance between libya and america
22:29 CrystalMath; now calculate the distance between syria and america
22:29 CrystalMath; now calculate the distance between afghanistan and america
22:29 CrystalMath; what the heck is america doing there?
22:30 MinceR; none of those states are part of the USA, as far as i know, not even according to the USians
22:30 psydroid8; collect precious resources
22:30 CrystalMath; according to russia, DPR and LPR aren't a part of it either
22:30 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/19/mozilla-removed-the-classic-print-preview-from-firefox-there-is-still-one-option/
22:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/19/mozilla-removed-the-classic-print-preview-from-firefox-there-is-still-one-option/
22:30 TR Bot; Mozilla removed the classic Print Preview from Firefox (there is still one option) - gHacks Tech News
22:30 CrystalMath; MinceR: anyone can play that game, really
22:30 MinceR; but according to russia, crimea is a part of russia
22:30 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161805 #Linux #TuxMachines
22:30 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:30 psydroid8; "what's mine is mine and what's yours is also mine"
22:31 MinceR; they also did some shit-stirring around armenia and georgia, iirc
22:31 TR News; #NetworkManager 1.36 Released with Improved WPA3 Security, 5G NR Modem Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161806 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:31 TR Bot; NetworkManager 1.36 Released with Improved WPA3 Security, 5G NR Modem Support | Tux Machines
22:31 CrystalMath; MinceR: why is america going all around the world, placing its puppets?
22:31 TR News; #Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS Released with Linux Kernel 5.13 and Mesa 21.2 from Ubuntu 21.10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161807 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:31 TR Bot; Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS Released with Linux Kernel 5.13 and Mesa 21.2 from Ubuntu 21.10 | Tux Machines
22:31 CrystalMath; MinceR: supporting independence when it needs to
22:31 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Did ye see the assembly of the Security Council?
22:31 CrystalMath; and trying to crush it otherwise
22:31 CrystalMath; XRevan86: no
22:31 MinceR; it's interesting how everyone who "chooses" to be aligned with russia does so under force of arms and often ends up as part of russia
22:32 MinceR; while people who vote in actual, real referenda to become part of the EU and the NATO are "puppets"
22:32 CrystalMath; MinceR: it's interesting how everyone who doesn't choose to be aligned with america gets bombed!
22:32 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Look up what kind of Freudian slip Patrushev did there.
22:32 MinceR; while maintaining their independence
22:32 MinceR; CrystalMath: really? when did russia and red china get bombed?
22:32 CrystalMath; MinceR: they would be, without Putin
22:32 MinceR; lol
22:33 MinceR; so, according to what you just said, russia and red china are aligned with america
22:33 CrystalMath; MinceR: i meant the smaller countries
22:33 CrystalMath; the ones that can't stand up to america
22:33 MinceR; did i fall through a wormhole or something?
22:33 AdmFubar; some type of hole... I think it starts with an "a"
22:34 CrystalMath; MinceR: why did libya get bombed by america?
22:34 MinceR; not sure
22:35 TR News; 10 Best #FreSW Anti-Malware Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-anti-malware-tools/
22:35 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Anti-Malware Tools - LinuxLinks
22:35 CrystalMath; why did afghanistan get bombed by america? 9/11 was done by saudis and an egyptian
22:35 CrystalMath; saudis actually tried it once before without the egyptian
22:35 MinceR; i forgot, but it was a bullshit reason
22:36 MinceR; the excuse was that they were hiding the al qaida
22:36 psydroid8; something something gold dinar
22:36 MinceR; which had something to do with 9/11, allegedly
22:36 TR News; So sad; #linuxlinks now posting #webspam for money; fake articles (SEO) disguised as "content" https://www.linuxlinks.com/tips-creating-winning-sales-deck-converts/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/23/www-of-spam/
22:36 TR Bot; Tips For Creating A Winning Sales Deck That Converts - LinuxLinks
22:36 TR Bot; SPAM is Ruining the World Wide Web and We Need to Talk About That | Techrights
22:37 MinceR; why did the russian empire occupy afghanistan?
22:37 CrystalMath; MinceR: and you don't care that 500,000 people died?
22:37 CrystalMath; because america had some bullcrap reason
22:37 MinceR; what would caring about it mean?
22:38 CrystalMath; condemning america
22:38 TR News; #ibm #redhat posts mindless #buzzwords and hype too https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-baicells-and-red-hat-are-driving-connectivity-and-wireless-accessibility-5g-future
22:38 TR Bot; How Baicells and Red Hat are driving connectivity and wireless accessibility for a 5G future
22:38 MinceR; that i should feel duty bound to become putler's property?
22:38 MinceR; in your 1-bit world, condemning "america" means swearing fealty to russia
22:38 MinceR; and i'm not going to do that
22:38 CrystalMath; saying you'd rather die than give one cent to america and aligning with ANY opponent of america, just to make sure america is freaking wiped off the map as it should be
22:38 MinceR; i think all states should be wiped off the map
22:38 CrystalMath; i even support china, as long as they wipe america off the map
22:39 MinceR; and, frankly, unless humanity gets its collective head out of its ass, humanity will wipe itself off the map anyway, along with all the states
22:39 MinceR; i think all states are evil, but autocratic states are magnitudes worse than the flawed democracies of the west
22:39 CrystalMath; killing 500,000 people is quite a flaw
22:40 CrystalMath; well, way more, that's just afghanistan
22:40 CrystalMath; going all around the world, trying to make sure everyone follows your orders in lockstep
22:40 MinceR; killing millions of people is a greater flaw, by at least one order of magnitude
22:40 XRevan86; Thank goodness the Soviets didn't kill anyone in Afghanistan.
22:40 MinceR; that's not what the USA does, though
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22:41 XRevan86; They weren't even involved there, and certainly didn't have war that was instrumental to the collapse of the whole union.
22:41 MinceR; :>
22:41 CrystalMath; XRevan86: well, nobody can beat afghanistan
22:41 CrystalMath; it was foolish to try :P
22:41 MinceR; so, did the russians have the right to try while the usians did not?
22:41 CrystalMath; afghanistan has a track record of beating every world superpower that tried, and they're just asking "who's next"
22:41 MinceR; i don't think they're asking
22:42 CrystalMath; no, i don't support the soviet attack on afghanistan
22:42 MinceR; i've seen a documentary of how things are going there now and my impression was not that they were happy about their state of affairs
22:42 XRevan86; MinceR: CrystalMath hates the US and not Russia.
22:42 XRevan86; MinceR: So obviously and objectively yes, absolutely :D
22:42 CrystalMath; XRevan86: still, i don't support the soviet attack on afghanistan
22:42 MinceR; but you also don't condemn russia for it, while demanding that people condemn the usa for doing the same?
22:43 CrystalMath; the soviet union did do a lot of bad things, including invading afghanistan
22:43 MinceR; but it doesn't count because the russians were calling themselves "councils" or "pieces of advice" back then?
22:43 CrystalMath; i believe this invasion had something to do with communism
22:44 CrystalMath; trying to spread communism to afghanistan, kinda like how america tried to spread """democracy"""
22:44 MinceR; guess what putler has the greatest nostalgia for.
22:44 XRevan86; The US invasion had respectively something to do with stopping the Soviet bloc from expanding.
22:44 CrystalMath; it would stil be unprecedented for Putin to invade on an ideological basis
22:45 XRevan86; MinceR: For territory?
22:45 MinceR; is trying to restore the USSR an "ideological basis"?
22:45 MinceR; XRevan86: the USSR.
22:45 CrystalMath; MinceR: that depends, if it includes restoring the communist party and communist ideals, then it's ideological
22:45 XRevan86; MinceR: He also criticised it, so maybe a subset of it.
22:45 MinceR; probably earlier
22:45 CrystalMath; specifically, i can't imagine, let's say, Putin ordering an invasion of some island somewhere
22:45 MinceR; presumably, like orban, he was pretending to be against "communism" earlier
22:46 TR News; "They didnt know how to (or couldnt) find open source packages built specifically for IBM Power." https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/quickly-find-containerized-packages-built-for-ppc64le/ Oh... those "dinobabies..."
22:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/quickly-find-containerized-packages-built-for-ppc64le/
22:46 TR Bot; Quickly find containerized packages built for IBM Power (ppc64le) IBM Developer
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22:46 CrystalMath; MinceR: i can't imagine Putin invading a random island in the pacific
22:46 XRevan86; MinceR: His basis for Ukrainian invasion is also on that USSR did bad.
22:46 MinceR; CrystalMath: right, he has plenty of land to annex for now
22:46 MinceR; like "south ossetia"
22:46 CrystalMath; MinceR: he doesn't need land
22:46 MinceR; tell him that
22:46 CrystalMath; russia is bigger than the surface of pluto
22:46 MinceR; he doesn't seem to know
22:47 XRevan86; CrystalMath: I don't want to break it to you but
22:47 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Putin wants vassal states.
22:47 CrystalMath; the pacifist option that a russian leader could have taken, is just accepting russian refugees from all these areas that the evil west has conquered by force
22:47 MinceR; yeah, ukraine was fine for him as a vassal state until the people got tired of having putler's puppet as the president
22:48 MinceR; CrystalMath: why not accept non-russian authoritarian refugees though?
22:48 TR News; "Digital transformation is an inevitable part of todays uncertain and evolving marketplace." Stupid, managerial words. On "transformation"... like calling traditional stuff bad and people who exercise that "dinobabies"... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/digital-transformation-dos-and-donts-it-leaders-succeed
22:48 TR Bot; Digital transformation: Do's and don'ts for IT leaders to succeed | The Enterprisers Project
22:48 XRevan86; The force of voting and other evil machinations.
22:48 XRevan86; Good thing Russia has all that under control.
22:48 CrystalMath; XRevan86: the election results had yanukovich win
22:48 MinceR; they could make life hell for each other there and stop being a burden on me
22:48 TR News; #ibm #redhat hiring #buzzwords people instead of actual engineers http://techrights.org/2022/02/24/microsoft-hat/
22:48 CrystalMath; XRevan86: then *force* was used (euromaidan) orchestrated by the US
22:48 TR Bot; Under IBM Management, Red Hat Has No Will to Survive | Techrights
22:49 MinceR; CrystalMath: and we all know elections can't be manipulated.
22:49 XRevan86; CrystalMath: 2016 elections had Trump as the winner
22:49 kingoffrance; no no no so did 2020
22:49 XRevan86; So the US is Trump's now?
22:49 MinceR; in 2016, the popular vote was on hillarious' side
22:49 MinceR; it's just that the usian system is broken and the electoral college gave dump the victory
22:49 CrystalMath; MinceR: the clintons are literally behind a lot of the evil done to Libya
22:49 CrystalMath; that's why she was unelectable
22:50 XRevan86; MinceR: That's a detail unnecessary for my point.
22:50 MinceR; and yeah, i'm familiar with the "win the election once and now you own the country and everyone in it" argument
22:50 MinceR; orban is using that too
22:50 MinceR; hitler was using it too
22:50 schestowitz; Microsoft logos: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-eBPF-For-HID
22:50 MinceR; CrystalMath: if she was unelectable, how come most of the people voted for her?
22:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-eBPF-For-HID
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22:50 TR Bot; Hat Eyeing Innovative eBPF Uses For Linux's HID Subsystem - Phoronix
22:50 MinceR; CrystalMath: how does that work?
22:50 CrystalMath; MinceR: americans are evil and stupid
22:50 MinceR; uh huh
22:51 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Don't judge all Americans just by Trump.
22:51 MinceR; so when people don't vote the way you like, they're "evil and stupid"
22:51 MinceR; but when they vote the way you like, they're wise and must be obeyed
22:51 CrystalMath; XRevan86: voting for Hillary is evil and/or stupid
22:51 CrystalMath; she killed Gaddafi
22:51 CrystalMath; she's a psycho that enjoyed the video of his murder
22:51 CrystalMath; how can someone vote for that?
22:51 MinceR; do you miss qadhafi?
22:51 AdmFubar; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/02/why-is-new-yorks-bail-reform-so-controversial.html
22:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nakedcapitalism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/02/why-is-new-yorks-bail-reform-so-controversial.html
22:51 TR Bot; Why Is New Yorks Bail Reform So Controversial? | naked capitalism
22:52 CrystalMath; MinceR: he was the legitimate president of Libya, what happened to him was a horrible injustie
22:52 CrystalMath; *injustice
22:52 MinceR; i have doubts about that
22:52 MinceR; i don't see how any dictator can be seen as legitimate
22:52 MinceR; what justifies owning millions of people?
22:52 MinceR; especially to an alleged "libertarian"?
22:52 CrystalMath; i don't believe he did
22:53 TR News; #BSDNow : "Certifying an OS Unix compliant, 2021 #FreeBSD Foundation Impact Report, Netflix, Disney, and other widevine content on FreeBSD, file hashes updated for #NetBSD 8.1, Playing with CD-RWs on FreeBSD, Why "process substitution" is a late feature in Unix shells, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/443
22:53 TR Bot; BSD Now 443: Certified Unix Compliant
22:53 XRevan86; Somehow Putin manages to own the country to a much greater extent than even I realised.
22:53 CrystalMath; MinceR: but why did you deflect from the fact that Hillary is an evil psychopath?
22:53 MinceR; the only excuse "leaders" could possibly have for the legitimacy of their position is having a demonstrably democratic process, rule of law and maintaining human rights
22:53 DaemonFC; https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.me.me%2Fthumb_am-calling-from-my-android-yes-it-has-unlimited-data-62354508.png&sp=1645743111T5b31c8bce02608facd119ee4f8cfd44d05a0fd872f56df7465e03ebbba97f19b
22:53 DaemonFC; :)
22:53 MinceR; CrystalMath: because every successful politician is an evil psychopath
22:53 XRevan86; I called it a dictatorship and I still missed the mark.
22:54 MinceR; CrystalMath: also, because former president Mount Flushmore was even worse
22:54 TR News; "Here's all the news that's happened around the #SteamDeck in the last week or so. It launches tomorrow." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y1Y8dXcQuvI #gnu #linux
22:54 TR Bot; Squeezing 4 hours of battery out of your Steam Deck will be up to YOU! - Invidious
22:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: voting for someone who murders people and enjoys videos of that is... unspeakably evil
22:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: i just have no words for it
22:55 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #MassOS #GNU / #Linux 2022.02.2 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=skc1m1K8eC4
22:55 TR Bot; MassOS GNU/Linux 2022.02.2 | Completely independent, built from scratch. - Invidious
22:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: all i can wish for is the force-induced irrelevants of everyone who would do that
22:55 CrystalMath; *irrelevance
22:55 kingoffrance; 2020 us election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections 239m eligible, popular vote 81m biden 74m trump 239-(81+74) = 84m -- the winner, none of the above!!!
22:55 TR Bot; Voter turnout in United States presidential elections - Wikipedia
22:55 MinceR; CrystalMath: state organizations of violence do tend to murder people
22:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: and that's what i want, for europe and america to be forced into irrelevance
22:56 MinceR; CrystalMath: and if you set out to prove that a given candidate for "leader" doesn't enjoy videos of such, well... good luck.
22:56 XRevan86; Surprisingly, my want is for Russia and Ukraine to live long and prosper.
22:56 CrystalMath; irrelevance does not mean death, or struggling
22:56 MinceR; CrystalMath: ah, so you want _everyone_ on this planet to be owned by people like putler and winnie the pooh. how nice.
22:56 MinceR; and how "libertarian".
22:56 CrystalMath; irrelevance just means that i NEVER have to worry or stress because of those people
22:57 CrystalMath; that they are as far away from me as possible and that their views never affect me
22:57 MinceR; and you will never stress because of the people who own you?
22:57 MinceR; if you get what you want, russia won't be far from you for long
22:57 XRevan86; But that want is incompatible with having a dictator that puts his ambition over the people, the economy, lives, everything.
22:57 MinceR; since yugoslavia was part of the eastern bloc, you can bet vladolf wants to annex serbia eventually
22:58 MinceR; and if the major NATO members continue not caring, it will happen
22:58 CrystalMath; MinceR: that would be great, finally i would have someone to vote for!
22:58 MinceR; lol
22:58 MinceR; your votes will be meaningless
22:58 MinceR; you're confusing dictatorships with democracies
22:58 XRevan86; All the East Slavs (Ruthenians/Russians/doesn't matter how one calls them) are in perpetual suffering.
22:59 XRevan86; And a lot of that misery is produced by just one man.
22:59 TR News; #ibm and #gulag disguising their evil nature behind pleas of minorities https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-may-2022/
22:59 TR Bot; Call for Projects and Mentors for Outreachy May 2022 cohort Fedora Community Blog
22:59 CrystalMath; MinceR: well if all the options are either pro-EU or lying to be anti-EU.... i have nobody to vote for either
22:59 MinceR; but hey, the freedom of nearly 7 million people for having a particular owner is quite the bargain.
22:59 CrystalMath; MinceR: and i'm living under the dictatorship of others anyway
22:59 MinceR; and so you don't want anyone else to have a meaningful vote either
22:59 MinceR; are you?
22:59 TR News; #Outreachy sponsors http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/outreachy-funding/
22:59 TR Bot; Diversity Funding From Enablers of Adolf Hitler (Not a Joke, Not Even Funny) | Techrights
22:59 CrystalMath; MinceR: they dictate their green agenda crap to me, so i have to struggle to acquire crates of incandescent light bulbs
23:00 MinceR; lol
23:00 XRevan86; But sure, maybe throwing a country's potential down the drain and making enemies of everyone is worth it.
23:00 MinceR; why do you want to use bulbs that burn out in a few weeks and waste lots of power to produce a bit of light?
23:00 TR News; #KeepItOn: 2022 elections and #internet shutdowns watch https://www.accessnow.org/elections-internet-shutdowns-watch-2022/ #accessnow | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/24/#latest
23:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/elections-internet-shutdowns-watch-2022/
23:00 TR Bot; #KeepItOn: 2022 elections and internet shutdowns watch
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23:00 CrystalMath; MinceR: i do have a whole crate btw
23:00 XRevan86; At least the US has an opponent. Except the countries don't even compare.
23:00 MinceR; even CFLs became unobtainable simply because nobody wants to buy them anymore
23:00 TR News; "As of February 24, 2022, #Spotify has not provided a response to our letter. We urge the company to open a constructive dialogue with civil society and demonstrate that it takes its users human rights seriously." https://www.accessnow.org/stop-misinformation-spotify/
23:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/stop-misinformation-spotify/
23:00 TR Bot; Stop the misinformation experience: Spotify must intervene - Access Now
23:01 CrystalMath; MinceR: their light is nicer
23:01 CrystalMath; though idk, some LEDs are just as good and i couldn't tell the difference in some cases
23:01 MinceR; some LEDs have a pretty nice spectrum
23:01 MinceR; and high CRI
23:02 TR News; #tecmint running in autopilot... reposting in 2022 what it originally posted EIGHT years ago. https://www.tecmint.com/linux-performance-monitoring-tools/
23:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tecmint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tecmint.com/linux-performance-monitoring-tools/
23:02 TR Bot; 13 Useful Performance and Network Monitoring Tools for Linux
23:02 XRevan86; Maybe if the EU was really as evil as ye say they are, maybe then they'd be able to shut Russia down.
23:02 MinceR; yeah
23:02 CrystalMath; evil doesn't mean powerful
23:02 MinceR; they'd have established a military of their own despite everything
23:02 MinceR; and they'd just nuke every city and military base in russia for teh evulz
23:02 XRevan86; Germany doesn't want to shut Russia off SWIFT, because Germany is dependent on Russian natural gas.
23:03 CrystalMath; again, evil doesn't mean powerful
23:03 XRevan86; Hungary doesn't want it because their autocrat is bought.
23:03 CrystalMath; sometimes, evil can lose too, believe it or not
23:03 MinceR; i'm waiting for it to
23:03 MinceR; and i keep being disappointed
23:03 XRevan86; Italy and Cyprus don't want it because they have Russian dough as a major contributor to their economies.
23:04 XRevan86; EU can't even agree to disconnect Russia from SWIFT.
23:04 CrystalMath; MinceR: the western world is mainly evil because it wants to control the whole world
23:04 XRevan86; We're not talking about military force.
23:04 MinceR; CrystalMath: but it's OK for russia and red china to want the same. got it.
23:04 CrystalMath; if they did acquire such control, then we'd see the real hell
23:04 MinceR; sure.
23:04 CrystalMath; MinceR: no, russia has never tried to invade an area without russians
23:05 MinceR; we'd see somewhat free elections everywhere on the planet. the horror!
23:05 TR News; #Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 110 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/24/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-110/ get #librewolf instead, #mozilla sees you as a "PRODUCT", librewolf corrects this http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
23:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/24/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-110/
23:05 TR Bot; These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 110 Firefox Nightly News
23:05 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights
23:05 CrystalMath; china, well... is acquiring a lot of puppet governments through financial means
23:05 MinceR; we'd see some occasional effort to have rule of law everywhere the planet. can you imagine?
23:05 CrystalMath; it could be that china aspires to take over the world
23:05 CrystalMath; MinceR: but what law?
23:05 CrystalMath; MinceR: tyrannical laws
23:05 XRevan86; 1. visit a country
23:05 CrystalMath; SJW bullcrap
23:05 TR News; #microsoft #rustlang has a new release, will still censor people who condemn crimes of Microsoft https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/02/24/Rust-1.59.0.html
23:05 XRevan86; 2. "oh shit, we have Russians"
23:05 TR Bot; Announcing Rust 1.59.0 | Rust Blog
23:05 MinceR; no, rule of law has nothing to do with SJWs
23:06 XRevan86; Putin: they have Russians, invade, invade!
23:06 MinceR; and also is incompatible with tyrannical laws
23:06 MinceR; unlike russia
23:06 CrystalMath; MinceR: is that why the pro-Stallman list is full of russian names?
23:06 MinceR; and yeah, all russia has to do is claim that russians live in some area and suddenly it's their birthright to own that place
23:06 CrystalMath; russians have SJWs?
23:06 MinceR; it's not full of them
23:06 XRevan86; Russians have reverse SJWs in plenty.
23:06 MinceR; mine isn't russian, for example
23:06 SomeH4x0r; > librewolf correct this | if it notices it
23:07 SomeH4x0r; *notices this
23:07 XRevan86; Like Kadyrov, who makes everyone who offended him to personally apologise on camera.
23:07 SomeH4x0r; and if someone bothers to correct it
23:07 SomeH4x0r; the "modern" web is too evil
23:07 MinceR; i guess i'll have to make sure i never let russians into my home
23:07 XRevan86; MinceR: But what if Hungarians ARE Russians?
23:08 MinceR; lol
23:08 MinceR; i thought the party line was that hungarians are turks?
23:08 TR News; Managed Mutual Fund https://assets.amuniversal.com/186bf2106feb013a97a6005056a9545d #dilbert
23:08 XRevan86; MinceR: Maybe when Erdogan is around.
23:08 MinceR; lol
23:08 MinceR; or when the gypsy king wants money from some random asian turkic dictator
23:09 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/22/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-22-22/
23:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/22/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-22-22/
23:09 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
23:09 CrystalMath; MinceR: still, i believe that a world ruled by the west would become hell very quickly
23:10 XRevan86; Anyway, Russia has a lot of offended people.
23:10 CrystalMath; MinceR: maybe the world would be hell if it was ruled by russia or china, too
23:10 MinceR; CrystalMath: any world populated by humans is hell
23:10 CrystalMath; MinceR: what i advocate is a multipolar world
23:10 XRevan86; They're incidentally all connected to the ruling party.
23:10 CrystalMath; MinceR: freedom through the competition of tyranny? :P
23:10 MinceR; but a world owned by autocrats is even more hellish
23:10 XRevan86; So not SJ but UR? URW's?
23:10 MinceR; i've experienced life in a russian empire and i don't want it
23:11 MinceR; and, once more, a multipolar world can exist where none of the poles are dictatorships
23:11 TR News; Sanctions https://www.gocomics.com/viewsamerica/2022/02/24
23:11 TR Bot; by CartoonArts International for February 24, 2022 - GoComics
23:11 CrystalMath; MinceR: people who lived in multipolar times were very happy then
23:11 MinceR; i doubt that
23:11 CrystalMath; aside from hungary and romania
23:11 MinceR; afaict most of human existence is suffering
23:12 XRevan86; The perfect multipolar world: Russia (Putin), PRC (Xi), Turkey (Erdogan)
23:13 TR News; #ubuntupit ought not promote #Hiri ... #proprietarySoftware for #Microsoft #Surveillance
23:13 CrystalMath; XRevan86: that's more unipolar with a very slight variance
23:13 CrystalMath; :P
23:14 CrystalMath; america, EU, russia, china - a relatively good 4-pole system
23:14 *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
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23:15 MinceR; i'd prefer something like EU, USA, australia, japan
23:15 CrystalMath; MinceR: that's unipolar again
23:15 XRevan86; MinceR: Well, those are all allies.
23:15 CrystalMath; i wouldn't like just america-china, either, that will mean surveillance has no alternative
23:15 XRevan86; MinceR: What if we throw just a little tiny-teeny dictator in there?
23:15 MinceR; XRevan86: is that a problem?
23:16 XRevan86; MinceR: How about Belarus' (Lukashenko)?
23:16 MinceR; i'd throw dictators elsewhere
23:16 MinceR; like a woodchipper.
23:16 MinceR; or a furnace.
23:16 MinceR; again, i don't think that humans are suitable for the role of pawns whose freedom is sacrificed for some crazy idea of a multipolar world.
23:16 CrystalMath; it's not crazy
23:16 MinceR; the point is not that some humans should be slaves, but competition
23:17 CrystalMath; it brings freedom simply by having the poles cancel each other out
23:17 MinceR; no, it brings the opposite of freedom simply by stipulating that people in some regions do not deserve to be free
23:18 XRevan86; MinceR: I mean, slave is literally derived from "Slav", so maybe Putin and CrystalMath have a point
23:18 MinceR; XRevan86: that was the vikings' idea though, not the slavs'
23:18 XRevan86; MinceR: Could count as cultural appropriation, yea.
23:19 MinceR; lol
23:19 MinceR; not the point
23:19 MinceR; the vikings thought that slavs would be good to have as slaves
23:19 MinceR; the slavs generally disagreed
23:20 CrystalMath; if the poles are different enough, people can always find a place closest to their beliefs
23:20 kingoffrance; "it brings freedom simply by having the poles cancel each other out" you realize this was the american theory of government?
23:20 XRevan86; MinceR: "generally" <- True, we have one counter-example literally here with us :)
23:20 MinceR; well, i suppose that could work too
23:20 MinceR; we could round up all the authoritarians of the planet and put them in one small place where they could make life hell for each other
23:20 MinceR; and not for the rest of us
23:21 MinceR; maybe some remote part of siberia could suffice
23:21 TR News; #Microsoft is a #backdoors company, not a #security company https://www.reviewgeek.com/110528/microsofts-critical-windows-security-tool-is-an-epic-fail/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
23:21 TR Bot; Microsofts Critical Windows Security Tool Is an Epic Fail Review Geek
23:21 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
23:21 XRevan86; MinceR: What if they'll start making out instead?
23:21 MinceR; we'll bomb them.
23:21 CrystalMath; MinceR: ANY unipolar world would leave no room for dissent
23:21 XRevan86; That seems to be what's already happening.
23:21 MinceR; they didn't have rights, so they won't have rights.
23:21 MinceR; they didn't want to have rights, so they won't have rights.
23:21 CrystalMath; MinceR: as a libertarian, i know what it feels like to have absolutely no majority support in any part of the world ever
23:21 MinceR; CrystalMath: how much room does putler leave for dissent?
23:21 CrystalMath; MinceR: all of america
23:22 MinceR; CrystalMath: what has he done to Navalny, for example?
23:22 CrystalMath; everyone in america, and half the world at least, is allowed to oppose Putin
23:22 TR News; #linuxsecurity (site) helps #microsoft #zdnet farm us like slaves, in effect helping a back doors company build a list of flaws to exploit and keep proprietary https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-projects/github-calls-for-contributions-to-new-cybersecurity-advisory-database
23:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-projects/github-calls-for-contributions-to-new-cybersecurity-advisory-database
23:22 TR Bot; GitHub calls for contributions to new cybersecurity Advisory Databa...
23:22 XRevan86; 1700 people were detained on anti-war protests.
23:22 MinceR; CrystalMath: dissenters in red china get to go to a "re-education camp"
23:22 CrystalMath; and thanks to russia's existence, we're also allowed to oppose biden
23:22 MinceR; CrystalMath: dissenters in the usa organize parties, movements, protests, and somehow get to keep their freedom.
23:22 CrystalMath; XRevan86: canada is arresting truckers
23:23 MinceR; CrystalMath: your right to oppose Biden does not depend on russia's existence
23:23 MinceR; it depends on the usa being at least nominally multi-party
23:23 CrystalMath; MinceR: nope, canadians still can't go to a grocery store without injecting an experimental vaccine
23:23 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Oh, how many of them were beaten up?
23:23 CrystalMath; XRevan86: plenty, unfortunately
23:23 CrystalMath; one older woman was hit by a horse
23:23 MinceR; CrystalMath: at least they don't get polonium in their tea.
23:23 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Any WW2 veterans and children there?
23:24 MinceR; CrystalMath: or novichok.
23:24 TR News; In case you have not paid attention, #microsoft #github is an ATTACK on #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/
23:24 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VIII Mr. Graveleys Long Career Serving Microsofts Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHubs GPL Violations Machine) | Techrights
23:24 CrystalMath; XRevan86: there are children there, the truckers brought children to the protest
23:24 CrystalMath; some have criiticized this move
23:24 XRevan86; Having a vaccine!? That's just as bad as being sentenced to a decade in prison for a like.
23:25 XRevan86; No, actually it's worse.
23:25 TR News; In case you have not paid attention, #linuxfoundation is an #openwashing #propaganda arm of #microsoft and #ibm and barely cares about LINUX!
23:25 DaemonFC; Mozilla added another "data collection and use" toggle switch.
23:25 XRevan86; With sentencing there are no bodily fluids involved.
23:25 DaemonFC; This time you have to log in to your Firefox account and notice that it's there. It's on by default.
23:25 XRevan86; At least not at first.
23:26 TR News; #jcorbet has this new piece, "Moving the [ #linux ] kernel to modern C". Why are they always shaming people who keep what works using words like "modern" or "dinobabies"? New stuff typically stops working very fast...
23:27 TR News; At least #NetworkManager does not use #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #github ... it uses #gitlab which isn't great but a tad better and in this case #selfhosted with #freedesktop
23:28 XRevan86; MinceR: Do ye really think that a court assembled in prison with fake witnesses is anywhere near as bad as vaccination?
23:28 MinceR; why ask me?
23:28 XRevan86; Russia has both, but let's not go into such details.
23:28 MinceR; lol
23:29 XRevan86; MinceR: "why ask me?" <- Was useful to the rhetoric :)
23:29 MinceR; :)
23:29 CrystalMath; XRevan86: i think russia is like that because it's constantly under attack
23:29 CrystalMath; which is why i'm not sure about moving there
23:30 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Honestly, for you it might be beneficial to move here.
23:30 TR News; About a week or two ago #lwn stopped posting the summaries of #security updates, except in RSS (maybe also front page). After "ris" (Rebecca Sobol) left is seems like they cut corners.
23:30 CrystalMath; a place that's constantly under attack is likely to become paranoid
23:30 XRevan86; First-hand experience does wonders to one's perspective.
23:30 MinceR; russia wouldn't be under attack if putler wasn't constantly looking for enemies
23:30 CrystalMath; MinceR: i know for sure that everyone who doesn't want to toe the western line is going to get hit by the west
23:31 MinceR; was russia hit between 1990 and 2014?
23:31 CrystalMath; MinceR: Lukashenko didn't want to do a lockdown, he got staged protests
23:31 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Odds are ye'll get hit not by the West but by a corrupt police officer.
23:31 MinceR; did westerners move to belarus, just to protest against lack of a lockdown?
23:31 MinceR; that sounds far-fetched.
23:31 TR News; Remember to #boycottzdnet because it's a fake news site, slander and spam for corporations albeit disguised as "news" http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet #zdnet
23:31 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights
23:31 CrystalMath; MinceR: no, they paid a small minority of people to do that
23:31 MinceR; uh huh
23:31 XRevan86; "Lukashenko didn't want to do a lockdown, he got staged protests" <- This is a new level of dumb.
23:32 MinceR; so you say that you need a multipolar world so that people can dissent, but when people actually dissent, it's an "attack" by the "evil" west. interesting.
23:32 CrystalMath; MinceR: people are allowed to leave belarus
23:32 MinceR; how nice
23:32 CrystalMath; but why is NO country allowed to not have a lockdown???
23:32 CrystalMath; how can there be an a problem in every single one
23:32 XRevan86; "people are allowed to leave belarus" <- Often by force :)
23:32 MinceR; i thought not only did turkmenistan not have a lockdown, their dictator forbade even mentioning the plague
23:33 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Because they're morons.
23:33 MinceR; but hey, it's an improvement compared to the USSR
23:33 CrystalMath; MinceR: yes well that's not in europe, so it's not on the top of the west's hit list
23:33 XRevan86; There's a correlation.
23:33 MinceR; people weren't even allowed to leave the USSR
23:33 *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: bbl tomorrow if I'm not under attack)
23:33 MinceR; it was such a shitty place the stalinist had to build 2 monuments to their own incompetence and evil (the iron curtain and the berlin wall) just to keep slaves from escaping
23:34 TR News; "Bash scripts are, essentially, just a series of Linux commands"... no, they're not. Linux is a #kernel ... and those "commands" are typically #gnu programs (Bash also has a gnu program) https://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-execute-command-from-within-the-script
23:34 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-execute-command-from-within-the-script )
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23:35 MinceR; s/ist/ists/
23:37 MinceR; hell, people weren't even normally allowed to move around inside the USSR
23:37 MinceR; iirc russia had some sort of internal passport bullshit
23:38 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/08/04/tearing-up-my-passport-was-the-right-decision old
23:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/08/04/tearing-up-my-passport-was-the-right-decision
23:38 TR Bot; NO TITLE
23:39 XRevan86; CrystalMath should read that to understand to what extent "people are allowed to leave belarus".
23:39 schestowitz-TR; covid vaccine 'passport'? ;)
23:39 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161808 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:39 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:39 XRevan86; no
23:40 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights
23:40 schestowitz-TR; I will see that article tomorrow
23:40 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ye've seen it before.
23:40 schestowitz-TR; oh, so it's not news..
23:41 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's for a person that hasn't followed any news but thinks that he knows the context.
23:42 schestowitz-TR; thanks
23:42 schestowitz-TR; timely
23:42 TR News; Lightweight Linux distribution #Slax rides again with v11.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161725#comment-32900
23:42 TR Bot; Slax Linux: Releasing final Slax 11 2 0 | Tux Machines
23:42 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: technically tearing it up is symbolic
23:42 schestowitz-TR; it does not annual citizenship
23:42 schestowitz-TR; the process for that can be long, cumbersome, time-consuming, even expensive
23:43 schestowitz-TR; to formalise it
23:43 schestowitz-TR; some citizens have no passport at all
23:43 schestowitz-TR; and if you tears yours up you can stioll get a new one
23:43 XRevan86; schestowitz: It was practical: so that they couldn't let her through the border.
23:43 schestowitz-TR; you say you lost it
23:43 XRevan86; i.e couldn't exile her
23:43 schestowitz-TR; she can just say she cannot find it
23:44 XRevan86; That was one of the approaches taken to opposition in Belarus'.
23:44 schestowitz-TR; unless she did that at the airport
23:44 schestowitz-TR; and even then..
23:45 CrystalMath; XRevan86: but keep in mind, i regret the current strikes in ukraine, aside from the one good result of reopening the water to crimea
23:45 XRevan86; Incarceration and murder are also used. These are also ways for people to leave Belarus' I suppose.
23:45 CrystalMath; XRevan86: in general i wish it didn't happen like that
23:45 TR News; #TechRadar is still garbage #clickbait ... avoid. http://techrights.org/2021/12/03/techradar-and-tns-spam-recorded/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/22/techradar-misinformation/
23:45 TR Bot; Media Coverage for Sale | Techrights
23:45 TR Bot; TechRadar is an Irresponsible Clickbait and Misinformation Site Disguised as News | Techrights
23:46 CrystalMath; XRevan86: but, what russia did is nothing more than what america did to us
23:46 CrystalMath; it's also probably less since americans targetted civilians
23:46 TR News; Judging quality and accuracy of #journalism by the number of clicks is like judging a person's beauty by how many people that person slept with
23:47 TR News; #MythTV 32.0 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161809 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:47 TR Bot; MythTV 32.0 Released | Tux Machines
23:47 XRevan86; Also on people being allowed to leave Belarus': https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/05/24/a-case-of-state-sponsored-hijacking
23:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/05/24/a-case-of-state-sponsored-hijacking
23:47 TR Bot; NO TITLE
23:48 XRevan86; A journalist whose worst mistake in life was being on an aeroplane that flies over Belarus'
23:49 schestowitz-TR; belarussia
23:49 schestowitz-TR; or ukrussia
23:49 schestowitz-TR; ask the dutch
23:49 schestowitz-TR; they lost a plane that way
23:49 schestowitz-TR; (not just a plane)
23:50 schestowitz; speaking of planes https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/02/a-year-of-war-completely-destroyed-the-donetsk-airport/386204/
23:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/02/a-year-of-war-completely-destroyed-the-donetsk-airport/386204/
23:50 TR Bot; A Year of War Completely Destroyed the Donetsk Airport - The Atlantic
23:50 schestowitz; powerful photography
23:50 schestowitz; dead people shown, too
23:51 MinceR; https://nitter.net/robert08908774/status/1496992168250073090
23:51 TR Bot; robert (@robert08908774): " The radioactive radiation at the reactor of Chernobyl has increased significantly in the last few hours from 3200 nSv/h to 65,500 nSv/h #Ukraine #UkraineInvasion" | nitter
23:51 schestowitz-TR; airplanes cause pollution
23:51 schestowitz-TR; but this isn't the way to tackle the issue
23:51 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: what is the meaning of the number?
23:51 schestowitz-TR; 65,500 code for something?
23:52 MinceR; nSv/h
23:52 XRevan86; MinceR: Bloody how!?
23:52 MinceR; russians took over
23:52 XRevan86; MinceR: I know
23:52 XRevan86; what are they doing there?
23:52 MinceR; i'm no expert, but i guess they're trying to blow it up
23:52 MinceR; trying to irradiate most of europe
23:53 schestowitz-TR; oh, this was not satirical?
23:53 XRevan86; schestowitz: No, Russians really did take it over.
23:53 XRevan86; No one knows what for
23:53 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161810 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:53 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:53 MinceR; there's a link to some sort of interactive map
23:53 schestowitz-TR; oh, crap
23:53 XRevan86; But the world is so scary I can't even rule out what MinceR said.
23:53 MinceR; well, what else would they want it for?
23:53 schestowitz-TR; not even the locals want to be there
23:53 schestowitz-TR; michael larabel went there 15 years ago
23:53 schestowitz-TR; I think his wife is from there
23:54 MinceR; it's not like russia urgently needs a lot of electricity right now, is it?
23:54 MinceR; or like the soldiers' phones ran out of power and they need to recharge them
23:54 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161811 #GNU #Linux
23:54 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:54 XRevan86; MinceR: The region that will be the most affected by the radiation is Belarus'
23:54 MinceR; do you think vladolf gives two fucks about the people of belarus?
23:54 schestowitz-TR; [23:53] <XRevan86> But the world is so scary I can't even rule out what MinceR said.
23:55 schestowitz-TR; the "irradiate" thing?
23:55 XRevan86; MinceR: The invasion is coming from Belarus' as well.
23:55 XRevan86; It's a unified front against Ukraine.
23:55 schestowitz-TR; I dread checking the "general" news...
23:55 schestowitz-TR; too much propaganda from both side
23:55 MinceR; he could get lukashenka let his forces through russia, doesn't make him care any more about the people
23:55 schestowitz-TR; *sides
23:55 MinceR; or even lukashenka
23:56 *schestowitz-TR would father focus on tech today
23:56 MinceR; lukashenka is just a subordinate to putler
23:56 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Video: MassOS, Steam Deck, TLLTS, BSD Now, Linux Action News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161812 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:56 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Video: MassOS, Steam Deck, TLLTS, BSD Now, Linux Action News | Tux Machines
23:57 XRevan86; Zelensky says Putin is targeting him and his family.
23:57 XRevan86; I can believe that.
23:58 XRevan86; He is a Russian-speaking Jew Ukrainian Nazi after all.
23:58 MinceR; lol
23:58 MinceR; i see what putler's problem would be with that -- he's not also a communist!
23:58 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: regarding nitter, news sites are generally not reliable
23:59 schestowitz-TR; social media is the least reliable
23:59 schestowitz-TR; and at times of war both are not reliable
23:59 schestowitz-TR; and are gamed by governments heavily
23:59 XRevan86; schestowitz: I know what I trust.
23:59 schestowitz-TR; meduza seems ok
23:59 schestowitz-TR; because they write detailed reports
23:59 schestowitz-TR; and seem not corrupted
23:59 schestowitz-TR; (by either side)
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