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00:07 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ
00:07 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ
00:07 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers - Invidious
00:08 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
00:08 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
00:08 TR Bot; youtube.owacon.moe | Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper. - YouTube
00:16 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/china-auto-sales-automakers-ford-gm-making-losing-market-share-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T
00:16 TR Bot; China Doesn't Want American Cars Anymore. That's a Problem.
00:16 DaemonFC; In many ways I think this is a good thing.
00:16 MinceR; maybe it's time for the USA to stop trading with red china
00:16 DaemonFC; A trade war is a good thing.
00:16 DaemonFC; China has never let us operate in their markets without serious interference.
00:17 DaemonFC; When an American company operates there, it's got to be some kind of joint venture with a Chinese company, and they control if you can actually take your profits anywhere else and they force you to have workers under a government controlled "union".
00:17 DaemonFC; There are no such restrictions in the US.
00:18 DaemonFC; When you invest here and profit, it's yours.
00:18 MinceR; and they conduct industrial espionage
00:19 MinceR; and while their masses are behind the Great Wall, they flood your masses with propaganda.
00:19 DaemonFC; Yeah.
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 DaemonFC; MinceR, When mom handed me her retirement account, I dumped all of the holdings in third world countries and China.
00:20 DaemonFC; Oh my God.
00:20 DaemonFC; :P
00:20 DaemonFC; There wasn't much of that, but 3% of the Portfolio is too much.
00:20 DaemonFC; The biggest holding in that fund was Tencent.
00:22 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tencent-suffers-heavy-losses-news-152454584.html
00:22 TR Bot; Tencent Suffers Heavy Losses On News Of Largest Shareholder's Stock Sale
00:22 DaemonFC; I don't want any holdings in China for a lot of reasons.
00:22 DaemonFC; Why invest in a country that abuses its citizens like that and steals from us and violates our airspace and threatens war against their neighbors?
00:24 DaemonFC; Tencent has learned from Apple and Microsoft I guess.
00:24 DaemonFC; Fire everyone and buy back worthless shares.
00:24 DaemonFC; :)
00:26 DaemonFC; What's going on inside the big tech companies is the worst accounting scandal since Enron, especially at Microsoft.
00:26 DaemonFC; They're dead broke and covering it up with hiring freezes, mass layoffs, product cancellations, disinvestment even from Windows and Office, and filling up unused Azure capacity with Chaff Bots.
00:26 DaemonFC; If they had use for the money they allegedly have, then they wouldn't be retreating and doing share buybacks.
00:26 TheRealPhanes; DaemonFC, thats war propaganda talking
00:27 TheRealPhanes; i think sometimes you forget that all of this is programming
00:30 MinceR; it's all a videogame
00:30 MinceR; but you can't play if you don't use the programming
00:31 TheRealPhanes; i do
00:31 MinceR; none of it exists without the programming
00:31 TheRealPhanes; oh, well yeah, i mean its an interaction platform still
00:32 TheRealPhanes; and in all fairness im still constantly finding things that i realize are just public programming that i need to unlearn so im just as guilty
00:33 MinceR; Your wicked acts are endless through the crimes we cannot name,
00:33 MinceR; Innocent or guilty proved, we'll burn you just the same.
00:34 TheRealPhanes; ha that actually sounds like some of the libera shits when they talk about me
00:34 TheRealPhanes; what's that from?
00:34 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOFSKCi9IUk
00:34 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=qOFSKCi9IUk
00:34 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | 12-cradle of filth - For Those Who Died - Invidious
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00:37 TheRealPhanes; im exploring the idea of using BRICS forex
00:40 MinceR; what for?
00:40 TheRealPhanes; well, there's a chance the dollar will collapse over the next few years
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00:41 TheRealPhanes; and is facing competition as a reserve currency
00:41 TheRealPhanes; from BRICS nations
00:46 TheRealPhanes; unfortunately the US has gripped such a tight fist around western reporting that it's hard to get information about
00:48 psydruid; the new gold-backed BRICS currency?
00:48 TheRealPhanes; yeah
00:49 psydruid; I came across it somewhere, but it was just a single site or so
00:49 TheRealPhanes; complete media blackout
00:49 psydruid; I'm sure more about it exists in media from BRICS countries
00:50 MinceR; pillars of honesty that they are
00:52 TheRealPhanes; I suspect the RAND will increase a great deal in value
00:53 psydruid; honesty and virtue only exist in the west obviously
00:53 MinceR; well, they certainly don't exist in red china, or in the land of the child-abducting nuclear terrorists
00:53 MinceR; brazil keeps supporting the latter even after bolsy lost power
00:54 TheRealPhanes; interesting that you'd mentioned brazil
00:54 TheRealPhanes; russia and brazil are the two currencies who have grown the most over the last few years and are both participants in BRICS' challenge to the USD as a reserve currency
00:54 MinceR; every year humanity keeps making great arguments for the desirability of Giant Meteor
00:54 TheRealPhanes; shortly before gaddaffi was assassinated, libya tried to form a gold backed currency
00:55 MinceR; the rubble has grown?
00:55 TheRealPhanes; yes
00:55 TheRealPhanes; 30 percent in 2022
00:56 TheRealPhanes; our country values are less important when we're lying to everyone about everything
00:57 MinceR; which state isn't lying to everyone about everything?
00:57 TheRealPhanes; norway
00:58 MinceR; lol
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:00 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was looking at the Red Robin menu again.
01:01 DaemonFC; It occurred to me that if you take the Arctic Cod sandwich and substitute a hamburger patty at no additional charge, add lettuce (no charge), and cheese (no charge), you have a Frisch's Big Boy at Red Robin.
01:01 MinceR; red robbin', eh?
01:01 DaemonFC; Their burgers are pretty good.
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01:01 DaemonFC; They keep bringing you unlimited fries.
01:02 DaemonFC; I mean, you CAN go in there and just get the cheapest thing that comes with the fries and just keep eating tons of fries if you wanted to.
01:02 TheRealPhanes; but potatoes are poor people food
01:03 MinceR; then don't eat potatoes
01:03 MinceR; not my problem
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01:04 TheRealPhanes; you should save them
01:05 MinceR; are they in danger?
01:06 MinceR; also, how much of the growth of the rubble remains if you factor in that nobody's buying or selling it?
01:09 TheRealPhanes; i suspect that the idea that no one is, is western propaganda
01:09 TheRealPhanes; it would have to be
01:09 MinceR; i suspect we'll find out in a few years how much was propaganda, and whose
01:10 TheRealPhanes; oh the russkis are just as bad with it
01:10 TheRealPhanes; but i think it is a distraction from the point that "just as bad" means we do it a whole lot too
01:10 MinceR; i'm not worried about that
01:10 MinceR; either humanity gets its shit together or it gets wiped out by a natural disaster eventually
01:12 TheRealPhanes; as long as there is no invasion or disruption of our singular food supply chain we'll be alright
01:13 MinceR; yeah, who cares about meteorites and stars going red giant when you can still eat tree bark
01:15 TheRealPhanes; i wonder if you have to go through a clearance interview to work at mansanto/beyer
01:17 TheRealPhanes; if i were a russian or chinese general i'd flood mansanto with infiltrants in every crevice of the organization, from sales to R&D and flood my western enemies with grain that produced a high yield but was indigestible and caused allergy problems and then use the PR arm to make anyone who complained about it sound like a tin foil hat nut
01:18 TheRealPhanes; and then just wait like 2 years for it to become part of every food item in the west, since the farmers are forced to buy the seeds
01:19 TheRealPhanes; if we were smart we'd be guarding mansanto's hiring process with national security screening services
01:19 MinceR; if we were smart we wouldn't let bayer have that much power in the first place
01:19 TheRealPhanes; i agree, it should be destroyed
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 MinceR; along with the Imaginary Property bullshit that gave them so much power
01:20 TheRealPhanes; its a huge vulnerability in our food supply chain and it has a horrible impact on everyone's health
01:21 TheRealPhanes; laser it from orbit
01:53 XRevan86; MinceR: "the rubble has grown?" <- In 2022 when import collapsed the ruble grew. It's falling now as export's collapsing but let's not talk about that.
01:53 MinceR; :>
01:53 TR News; (NEW): 8 Best Free and Open Source Steganography Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/8_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Steganography_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/8_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Steganography_Tools.gmi
01:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines 8 Best Free and Open Source Steganography Tools
01:54 TR News; (NEW): OpenShot Video Editor 3.1.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/OpenShot_Video_Editor_3_1_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/OpenShot_Video_Editor_3_1_1.gmi
01:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenShot Video Editor 3.1.1
01:54 TR News; (NEW): blendOS 2 Is Already Here and Supports Android Apps Out-of-the-Box http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/blendOS_2_Is_Already_Here_and_Supports_Android_Apps_Out_of_the_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/blendOS_2_Is_Already_Here_and_Supports_Android_Apps_Out_of_the_.gmi
01:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines blendOS 2 Is Already Here and Supports Android Apps Out-of-the-Box
01:55 XRevan86; Russia is staking everything into yuan right now. So phanes talking about the prospects of ruble is telling.
01:58 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D570.jpg
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 TR News; can you hear it, calling in the air tonight. hold on gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1365
02:02 TR News; Christina's 5 questions gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/2023-04-22-5q.txt "Give a child structure & space to be a child"
02:04 TR News; "I updated my Gopherhole a bit. I added a new article to my /Gopher Novice/ series. It's about zines because I had thought that there were absent on the 90's Gophersphere." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/szczezuja/phlog/2023-04-22-News-section.txt
02:11 TR News; The Fortra/GoAnywhere breach also affected healthcare entities. Heres what we know so far, Part 2. https://www.databreaches.net/the-fortra-goanywhere-breach-also-affected-healthcare-entities-heres-what-we-know-so-far-part-2/
02:11 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/the-fortra-goanywhere-breach-also-affected-healthcare-entities-heres-what-we-know-so-far-part-2/ )
02:19 TR News; Manjaro Linux 22.1 'Talos' is here with updates for GNOME, KDE Plasma, and Xfce https://betanews.com/2023/04/22/manjaro-linux-221-talos/
02:19 TR Bot; Manjaro Linux 22.1 'Talos' is here with updates for GNOME, KDE Plasma, and Xfce
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:21 TR News; "An old joke is that Emacs is a text editor with an operating system included, given that its extensibility and customization often goes far beyond traditional text editors." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/22/build-your-own-bootable-emacs-environment/
02:21 TR Bot; Your Own Bootable Emacs Environment | Hackaday
02:37 TR News; In Taiwan, Windows Shedding Off Share, GNU/Linux Gaining | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/taiwan-gnu-linux-gains/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/22/taiwan-gnu-linux-gains/
02:37 TR Bot; In Taiwan, Windows Shedding Off Share, GNU/Linux Gaining | Techrights
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-220423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-220423.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 22, 2023
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 22, 2023
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 22, 2023
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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 22, 2023
02:45 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-04-22.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-04-22.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:46 TR News; Sebastian Marchano on GNU Taler | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/sebastian-marchano-on-gnu-taler/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/22/sebastian-marchano-on-gnu-taler/
02:46 TR Bot; Sebastian Marchano on GNU Taler | Techrights
02:50 TR News; New EasyJWM https://bkhome.org/news/202304/new-easyjwm.html
02:50 TR Bot; New EasyJWM
02:51 TR News; Re-Balancing Moms Retirement. Chinese investments? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/re-balancing-moms-retirement-chinese-investments/
02:51 TR Bot; Re-Balancing Moms Retirement. Chinese investments? | BaronHK's Rants
02:51 TR News; Apple Savings Accounts. Just Marcus With Dependency on iPhones. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/apple-savings-accounts-just-marcus-with-dependency-on-iphones/
02:51 TR Bot; Apple Savings Accounts. Just Marcus With Dependency on iPhones. | BaronHK's Rants
02:53 TR News; Using dd to clone my portable Mageia Linux desktop http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2023/04/using-dd-to-clone-my-portable-mageia.html
02:53 TR Bot; Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Using dd to clone my portable Mageia Linux desktop
02:55 TR News; GNU World Order 509 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_509_ogg.ogg
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:02 TR News; (NEW): Turing Pi reveals RK1 CM specifications http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Turing_Pi_reveals_RK1_CM_specifications.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Turing_Pi_reveals_RK1_CM_specifications.gmi
03:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Turing Pi reveals RK1 CM specifications
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 325620 total Total number of pages in capsule: 45853 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 1 months 14 days ago
03:02 TR News; (NEW): GNU Parallel 20230422 ('Grand Jury') released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/GNU_Parallel_20230422_Grand_Jury_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/GNU_Parallel_20230422_Grand_Jury_released.gmi
03:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Parallel 20230422 ('Grand Jury') released
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:04 TR News; Bubble waiting to explode again https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/osfi-housing-warning-1.6815247
03:04 TR Bot; Banking regulator OSFI flags housing market as risk for Canada's economy | CBC News
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 TR News; Who was arrested for this? Nobody, as usual... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/19/us/politics/congress-stock-trading-banks.html
03:04 TR Bot; As Fears of Banking Crisis Surged, Members of Congress Sold Bank Stocks - The New York Times
03:06 TR News; They also invest in war companies, IOW they give a financial incentive to start and continue wars https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/canadian-banks-fossil-fuels-1.6814560
03:06 TR Bot; Banks' investments in fossil fuels threaten economy and climate alike, advocate says | CBC Radio
03:06 TR News; Classic greenwashing https://gizmodo.com/banks-with-net-zero-pledges-are-top-funders-of-fossil-1850347869
03:06 TR Bot; Banks With Net-Zero Pledges Are Top Funders of Fossil Fuels
03:07 TR News; Taxpayers paying the price again for white-collar crime https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/credit-suisse-class-action-could-force-banks-clean-their-act-says-finance-expert-1715144
03:07 TR Bot; Credit Suisse class action could force banks to clean up their act, says finance expert
03:08 TR News; </blockquote></li> When you keep failing to arrest white-collar criminals they know they can get away with anything without punishment https://jacobin.com/2023/04/greedflation-inflation-price-gouging-corporate-profits-central-banks-economists/
03:08 TR Bot; Many People Are Saying It: Corporate Greed Is Stoking Inflation
03:10 TR News; Move to GNU/Linux https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/microsoft-set-bring-more-ads-windows-11-start-menu-whether-you-like-it-not-1715229
03:10 TR Bot; Microsoft set to bring more ads to Windows 11 Start Menu, whether you like it or not
03:12 TR News; Revenue down, layoffs, now this https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-windows-11-ads-start-menu-365-onedrive-badgin-1850343412
03:12 TR Bot; Microsoft Isnt Done Shoving Ads Into Windows 11
03:13 TR News; Microsoft is criminals https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-farce-of-microsofts-anti-racism-and-the-capture-of-academia/
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03:13 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-farce-of-microsofts-anti-racism-and-the-capture-of-academia/ )
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03:14 TR News; A bogus patent battle https://www.patentdocs.org/2023/04/amgen-inc-v-sandoz-inc-fed-cir-2023.html
03:14 TR Bot; Patent Docs: Amgen Inc. v. Sandoz Inc. (Fed. Cir. 2023)
03:15 TR News; Strong evidence of USPTO revolving doors corruption (Kappos and Iancu) http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/draft-sep-regulation-threatens-eu.html
03:15 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Draft SEP regulation threatens EU Commission's credibility at WTO level, may backfire big-time: issues outlined by former U.S. government officials and senior Qualcomm lawyer
03:16 TR News; Germany uses corruption to attract patent litigation. ILLEGAL EPO, illegal UPC. what does that make Germany if not outlaw state? http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/interdigital-v-oppo-patent-infringement.html
03:16 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: InterDigital v. OPPO patent infringement lawsuits stayed in Mannheim (formally) and Munich (de facto) after Federal Patent Court rendered negative preliminary opinions
03:16 TR News; Software patents again http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/mpeg-la-settles-patent-enforcement.html http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA
03:16 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: MPEG LA settles patent enforcement actions against former pool contributor Samsung Electronics--but contract dispute apparently continues in NY state court
03:16 TR Bot; MPEG-LA - Techrights
03:17 TheRealPhanes; im blanking on the name of this thing, and i need to remember it so i can implement it in a system im building
03:17 TheRealPhanes; you know when you go to like a community cork bulletin board and somebody's selling a good or service, and they have little cuts on the bottom of the add that you tear off that act like calling cards?
03:17 TheRealPhanes; what are those called?
03:18 TR News; FRAND is a fraud and way of imposing illegal patents on those who can least afford that http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/qualcomm-outlines-reciprocal-frand.html
03:18 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Qualcomm outlines Reciprocal FRAND Agreement as superior alternative to European Commission's "fatally-flawed proposal" of non-binding standard-essential patent valuations
03:19 TR News; Avanci is a large patent troll http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/samsung-joins-avancis-automotive.html
03:19 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: Samsung joins Avanci's automotive standard-essential patent pools as licensor (in addition to previously announced participation in Avanci Broadcast)
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:21 TR News; Focusing on "diversity" instead of the disease of patent maximalism; nice distracting from the principal problem; corporations use women to change the subject http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/04/amendments-to-uk-patents-court-guide.html
03:21 TR Bot; Amendments to UK Patents Court Guide paves way for increased diversity - The IPKat
03:22 TR News; Bribery by large corporations will "correct" sane policies http://www.fosspatents.com/2023/04/european-commissions-take-on-patent.html
03:22 TR Bot; FOSS Patents: European Commission's take on patent pools has turned negative: draft impact assessment makes up and distorts facts, relies on conflicted "researcher"
03:26 TR News; Nazi era https://www.dw.com/en/photography-s-diverse-roles-during-the-nazi-era/a-65344222 https://www.dw.com/en/the-different-roles-of-photography-during-the-nazi-era/a-65344222
03:26 TR Bot; diverse roles during the Nazi era DW 04/17/2023
03:28 TR News; "cloudnativenow" = GAFAM and "LF" taking over sites to relay propaganda campaigns, not news, but they're hijacking actual sites that used to do news
03:30 TR News; ClownNative is a bit of a contradiction anyway, like "lovely tragedy". Clown computing typically means outsourcing, otherwise it's not "clown", it's just server in every traditional sense. They are just desperate to rebrand every single thing "clown" and then fake "growth"...
03:31 TR News; The latest propaganda from the car "industry" is that sales (of EVs) are soaring. Sure, sales in general are down, so let's focus only on the new models, ignore the rest...
03:32 TR News; Media should never have become a relayer of lies. More people became cynical about it, so no wonder it is collapsing. There's no trust anymore.
03:33 TR News; "Linux is hard to use" is still repeated by many so-called 'journalists' who never even bothered to try it.
03:40 TR News; Just end service. Get the F out. https://gizmodo.com/whatsapp-signal-uk-online-safety-bill-encryption-censor-1850347516
03:40 TR Bot; WhatsApp, Signal Threaten to Leave UK Over 'Online Safety Bill'
03:42 TR News; maybe if our politicians were NOT social control media ADDICTS, we'd not be easily BLACKMAILED by all those manipulation (censorship, surveillance, propaganda) companies from overseas
03:43 TR News; Politicians who rely heavily on tiktok/Fentanylware are pawns of China. Politicians who rely heavily on Twitter, Facebook etc. are beholden to the Pentagon.
03:45 TR News; Pakistan also has nuclear weapons https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/04/19/nuclear-energy-in-pakistan-harnessing-the-power-confronting-the-complexities/
03:45 TR Bot; Nuclear Energy in Pakistan: Harnessing the Power, Confronting the Complexities - Modern Diplomacy
03:46 TR News; What took so long. Denmark was never tough on white-dollar crime (see DKPTO) https://cphpost.dk/2023-04-20/news/eight-arrests-following-discovery-of-energy-company-fraud-amounting-to-billions-of-kroner/
03:46 TR Bot; Eight arrests following discovery of energy company fraud amounting to billions of kroner - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
03:47 TR News; Did they take private jets there? https://www.dw.com/en/g7-ministers-pledge-to-speed-up-clean-energy-transition/a-65336711
03:47 TR Bot; ministers pledge to speed up clean energy transition DW 04/16/2023
03:48 TR News; There is no labour shortage. That's a lie. DW promotes lies. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-hannover-fair-to-tackle-energy-and-labor-shortage/a-65310441
03:48 TR Bot; Hannover Fair to tackle energy and labor shortage DW 04/15/2023
03:49 TR News; Media and social control media: promoting clickbait and lies as a business model https://reason.com/2023/04/21/buzzfeed-news-dead-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-social-media/
03:49 TR Bot; The Death of BuzzFeed News Was a Facebook Murder-Suicide
03:50 TR News; Fewer spies https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/4/18/23688627/meta-layoffs-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-instagram-whatsapp
03:50 TR Bot; layoffs: Facebook and Instagram owner is on its next round of layoffs - Vox
03:54 TR News; I made a Soroban gemini://laniakea.rodoste.de/journal/2023-04-22-soroban.gmi
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:10 TR News; Techrights IPFS traffic this past month: 800+ GB
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04:11 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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04:31 TR News; He didn't pay anything. Stop relaying mindless spin. https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-paying-blue-checkmarks-twitter-stephen-king-1850361244
04:31 TR Bot; Elon Musk Admits He's Paying for Stephen Kings Blue Checkmark
04:32 TR News; How to put off prolific accounts https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-blue-advertisers-required-1850361922
04:32 TR Bot; Elon Musk Demands Advertisers Buy Twitter Blue to Run Ads
04:32 TheRealPhanes; that's awesome
04:33 TR News; Clearly has no clue what the heck he was (and is) doing https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-npr-bbc-rt-xinhua-delete-media-label-1850361523
04:33 TR Bot; Elon Musk Deletes All Labels for Media Outlets on Twitter
04:33 TR News; Plagiarism engines https://gizmodo.com/stack-overflow-charging-ai-companies-for-training-data-1850362500
04:33 TR Bot; Stack Overflow Will Charge AI Companies for Training Data
04:34 TheRealPhanes; the media labels were a good idea
04:34 TheRealPhanes; too bad
04:35 TR News; Musk is himself government funded https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/twitter-changes-tags-1.6817729
04:35 TR Bot; Twitter removes 'government-funded media' tags, blue checks | CBC News
04:35 TR News; "Legacy" https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/twitter-purges-legacy-blue-checkmarks/
04:35 TR Bot; Purges Legacy Blue Check Marks - CNET
04:36 TR News; Those badges have turned from arbitrary endorsement into "token of me paying corrupt Musk" https://www.dw.com/en/twitter-puts-end-to-blue-tick-for-users-who-don-t-pay/a-65391446
04:36 TR Bot; puts end to blue tick for users who don't pay DW 04/21/2023
04:36 TheRealPhanes; his movements really do indicate some kind of intelligence agency at work
04:37 TR News; Musk receives a lot of money from American taxpayers https://www.dw.com/en/twitter-removes-government-funded-media-labels/a-65404554
04:37 TR Bot; removes 'government-funded' media labels DW 04/21/2023
04:37 TR News; Not April 1st as initially planned https://www.engadget.com/the-morning-after-twitter-legacy-blue-111521353.html
04:37 TR Bot; Morning After: Twitter is pulling legacy blue verification checkmarks | Engadget
04:38 TR News; Andrew Lee imitated https://www.engadget.com/twitter-pulls-government-funded-label-from-media-accounts-141046730.html
04:38 TR Bot; pulls 'government-funded' label from media accounts | Engadget
04:39 TR News; Everything down the drain yet? https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-spacex-tesla/673808/
04:39 TR Bot; Elon Musks Disastrous Week - The Atlantic
04:39 TR News; Dangerous bubble https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/04/musk-twitter-shame-amplification/673814/
04:39 TR Bot; Elon Musks Lasting Twitter Legacy - The Atlantic
04:40 TR News; Reminder of who or what really runs Twitter https://cpj.org/2023/04/journalists-in-india-arrested-threatened-suspended-from-twitter-in-separate-incidents/
04:40 TR Bot; Journalists in India arrested, threatened, suspended from Twitter in separate incidents - Committee to Protect Journalists
04:41 TR News; Twitter will drive away some high profile accounts this way https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-begins-to-kill-legacy-blue-checks-on-420-1850358635
04:41 TR Bot; Legacy Blue Checks Begin to Disappear on Twitter
04:41 TheRealPhanes; schestowitz[TR2], can you write an article on how the twitter people became the anti-twitter people, and how they're batshit crazy
04:42 schestowitz[TR2]; this hypohesis of your does not make sense
04:42 schestowitz[TR2]; write about that on your own
04:42 TheRealPhanes; i mean, i kinda do
04:42 schestowitz[TR2]; also mention how you contributed to the downfall of freenode while on thew payroll of Lee
04:43 TheRealPhanes; i already did that
04:43 TheRealPhanes; schestowitz[TR2], do you need the link?
04:43 TheRealPhanes; schestowitz[TR2], https://phanes.silogroup.org/bye-freenode/
04:43 TR Bot; Bye, Freenode Phanes' Canon
04:44 TheRealPhanes; schestowitz[TR2], for context: https://phanes.silogroup.org/frank-gingras-is-a-former-stalker-of-mine/
04:44 TR Bot; Frank Gingras is a Former Stalker of Mine Phanes' Canon
04:44 TR News; No net gain here, unless the goal is to hasten the platform's stability https://www.engadget.com/twitter-starts-pulling-legacy-blue-verification-checkmarks-205010576.html
↺ https://www.engadget.com/twitter-starts-pulling-legacy-blue-verification-checkmarks-205010576.html
04:44 TR Bot; starts pulling legacy blue verification checkmarks | Engadget
04:44 TheRealPhanes; schestowitz[TR2], more context: https://phanes.silogroup.org/vae-victis/
04:44 TR Bot; Vae Victis! Phanes' Canon
04:45 TR News; Stats have already shown that almost nobody pays. And when it all collapses those who pay will stop paying. https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/elon-musk-s-twitter-begins-removing-blue-checks-from-users-who-don-t-pay-20230421-p5d26r.html
04:45 TR Bot; Elon Musks Twitter begins removing blue checks from accounts
04:46 TR News; Why pay? Twitter should pay high-profile users, not the other way around https://www.twincities.com/2023/04/20/twitter-begins-removing-blue-checks-from-users-who-dont-pay
04:46 TR Bot; Twitter begins removing blue checks from users who dont pay Twin Cities
04:48 TR News; Twitter as a CHOKEPOINT against journalism https://cpj.org/?p=278298
04:48 TR News; 10 years from now people will ask him, "what's Twitter?" https://gizmodo.com/matt-walsh-hacker-says-he-did-it-for-entertainment-1850354548
04:48 TR Bot; Matt Walsh's Twitter Hacker: I Was Just 'Stirring Up Some Drama'
04:49 TR News; Twitter killed many other things with the API move https://hackaday.com/2023/04/19/little-twitter-game-boy-wont-work-now-the-api-is-dead/
04:49 TR Bot; Twitter Game Boy Wont Work Now The API Is Dead | Hackaday
04:50 TR News; Web APIs are risky and unstable. If you develop for them you ensure your work will stop working, and not due to your OWN choices.
04:50 TheRealPhanes; ^ that's not true at all
04:51 TR News; Is it like a secret that US government reads your 'private' Twitter messages? https://reason.com/video/2023/04/19/elon-musk-warns-tucker-carlson-the-feds-are-in-your-twitter-dms/
04:51 TheRealPhanes; APIs only break down over time if they're designed poorly to depend on external systems that do change and are outside of the sphere of control of the system developer
04:51 TR Bot; Elon Musk Warns Tucker Carlson: The Feds Are in Your Twitter DMs
04:52 TR News; Linking a person to a past name/identity https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-transphobia-misgender-deadname-glaad-1850350010
04:52 TR Bot; Twitter Decides Misgendering and Deadnaming Are OK, Actually
04:53 TR News; Breaking a lot of things, which is technically dumb https://gizmodo.com/twitter-elon-musk-mta-nws-bart-noaa-bots-api-shut-down-1850345806
04:53 TR Bot; MTA, NWS, BART, NOAA Twitter Bots Nuked After Elon Musk Tweaks
04:53 schestowitz[TR2]; TheRealPhanes: this is an external dep
04:53 schestowitz[TR2]; if i rely on some gnome api
04:53 schestowitz[TR2]; i can rejecct the latest gnome
04:53 schestowitz[TR2]; or fork something
04:54 schestowitz[TR2]; or write some compatibility layer
04:54 TheRealPhanes; that would fall under "designed poorly to depend on external systems that do change and are outside of the sphere of control of the system developer"
04:54 schestowitz[TR2]; TheRealPhanes: https://pressgazette.co.uk/platforms/news-publishers-leaving-twitter/
04:54 TR Bot; News publishers arent leaping from Twitter in droves (yet)
04:54 schestowitz[TR2]; API fees
04:55 schestowitz[TR2]; the other day I had to rewrite some code
04:55 schestowitz[TR2]; because of some legayc bot stuff
04:56 TR News; Social control media is a BUBBLE https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/parler-shut-down-new-owner-starboard-twitter-clone-conservatives-1235583709/
04:56 TR Bot; Shut Down by New Owner: 'Twitter Clone' Not a 'Viable Business' - Variety
04:57 TR News; Linking a person to a past ID is essential for history and for evidence-gathering https://www.engadget.com/twitter-quietly-reversed-its-policies-to-allow-for-intentional-deadnaming-and-misgendering-181754382.html
04:57 TR Bot; quietly reversed its policies to allow for intentional deadnaming and misgendering | Engadget
04:57 TheRealPhanes; yeah im like 99% sure "deadnaming" is a device used entirely to prevent a person's past behaviour from being linked to their current behaviour
04:58 TR News; This is only the beginning. The "network effect" now is LEAVING Twitter. https://www.thelocal.se/20230418/swedish-public-broadcaster-sr-ceases-activities-on-twitter
04:58 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230418/swedish-public-broadcaster-sr-ceases-activities-on-twitter )
04:58 TheRealPhanes; one of those feigned insults that community has forged for its political conquests in its incontestable position of power
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:00 TheRealPhanes; it's actually really bizarre watching those community reps leveral serious power in the course of positioning themselves as disadvantaged
05:00 psydruid; it's important to see through it and not succumb to their fake indignation
05:01 TR News; Musk doing a joseon https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/4/18/23687125/elon-musk-twitter-x-super-app-wechat
05:01 TR Bot; Musk wants to turn Twitter into a super app called X - Vox
05:02 TheRealPhanes; it's a tricky line. because one of their classic devices is using you seeing through it to build content to defame with you by manipulating the context. so, it's more nuanced and dangerous than it sounds. you can be misportrayed as "transphobic" before you even get a chance to explain yourself.
05:02 TheRealPhanes; the twitter people are a social disease
05:02 TheRealPhanes; the trans community is not
05:03 TR News; A lot of the hate comes from Twitter's own management https://www.engadget.com/twitter-will-label-tweets-limited-due-to-hate-policy-violations-170438879.html
05:03 TR Bot; will label tweets limited due to hate policy violations | Engadget
05:03 TheRealPhanes; s/twitter people/neo-anti-twitter people?/
05:03 TheRealPhanes; the post-musk anti-twitter people
05:03 TheRealPhanes; whatever the fuck that means
05:04 TR News; This WON'T be the last. Give or take another 3 months... they will leave in droves. Like Freenode 24 months ago. .usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-04-17/cbc-pausing-twitter-after-government-funded-media-label
05:05 TheRealPhanes; maybe, maybe not. it's unwise to compare this to freenode, musk is using a playbook that is keen to the tricks used by his opponents. the adversary type is the same in both scenarios, but the protagonist is more developed and is more research-guided, likely having learned from observation of freenode's fall.
05:05 TR News; Musk servicing 14 billion dollars (and still GROWING) in Twitter debt. What will his Saudi backers make of their "investment"?
05:06 TheRealPhanes; they also make better use of their PR resources
05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; it will end up like parler
05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; shut down
05:06 TheRealPhanes; oh certainly not
05:07 TheRealPhanes; parler actually hurt the people who shut it down long term
05:08 TR News; Elephants not in their natural habitat though https://nltimes.nl/2023/04/18/three-african-elephants-dutch-safari-park-pregnant-time
05:08 TR Bot; Three African elephants at Dutch safari park are pregnant at the same time | NL Times
05:08 TheRealPhanes; it was a cesspool for sure, but, the act and reasoning behind shutting it down, as well as the collaboration between providers to do it, completely shook consumer trust in those hosting providers to the foundation
05:08 TheRealPhanes; it hurt the entire CSP market
05:08 TR News; More urgent needs exist https://www.dw.com/en/space-industry-africa-is-ready-for-liftoff/a-65373644
05:08 TR Bot; industry: Africa is ready for liftoff DW 04/20/2023
05:09 TheRealPhanes; watch france steal their moonbase
05:09 TR News; Space trash https://gizmodo.com/defunct-nasa-satellite-disintegrates-over-northern-afri-1850356998
05:09 TR Bot; Defunct NASA Satellite Disintegrates Over Northern Africa
05:10 TR News; Economic Growth https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/04/21/using-geopolitical-complexities-and-contradictions-for-africas-economic-growth/
05:10 TR Bot; Using Geopolitical Complexities and Contradictions for Africa's Economic Growth - Modern Diplomacy
05:11 TR News; "labor market" is the language of 'capitalist pigs' https://www.dw.com/en/africa-strives-to-revamp-universities-for-the-modern-labor-market/a-65399207 educate, don't indoctrinate
↺ https://www.dw.com/en/africa-strives-to-revamp-universities-for-the-modern-labor-market/a-65399207
05:11 TR Bot; strives to revamp its universities DW 04/21/2023
05:14 TR News; Mining, manufacturing, recharging still cause a lot of pollution https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/lithium-price-drop-electric-vehicles-1.6811105
05:14 TR Bot; Major drop in lithium prices could mean cheaper electric vehicles | CBC News
05:15 TR News; Twitter dying https://www.engadget.com/canadas-cbc-is-the-latest-to-leave-twitter-in-objection-to-goverment-funded-label-212524059.html
05:15 TR Bot; CBC is the latest to leave Twitter in objection to 'goverment-funded' label | Engadget
05:16 TheRealPhanes; have they considered not being government funded?
05:16 TR News; Rich people's parties https://jacobin.com/2023/04/canada-liberal-party-budget-austerity-wages-housing-environment/
05:16 TR Bot; Canadas New Budget Is a Typical Liberal Road Map for Failing the Working Class
05:18 TR News; Strike https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/westjet-pilot-strike-vote-favour-1.6814216
05:18 TR Bot; WestJet pilots vote in favour of strike mandate, could walk before May long weekend | CBC News
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:26 TR News; (NEW): Users Are Worried: Whats Going On with SolusOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/20/Users_Are_Worried_What_s_Going_On_with_SolusOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/20/Users_Are_Worried_What_s_Going_On_with_SolusOS.gmi
05:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Users Are Worried: Whats Going On with SolusOS
05:43 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/21/opinions/income-tax-wealthy-hodge/index.html
05:43 TR Bot; Think the rich dont pay their fair share? Think again | CNN
05:43 DaemonFC; LOL
05:43 DaemonFC; It's amazing what hyperinflation and joblessness can do.
05:43 DaemonFC; The tax brackets are being adjusted for inflation, but our pay is going up by less than inflation.
05:44 DaemonFC; So they keep us at the 10% bracket and then complain we're in the 10% bracket when they don't pay us.
05:44 DaemonFC; Nobody wants to be in a higher tax bracket. And nobody in their right mind is going to forego tax credits that wipe out most of their tax obligation.
05:45 DaemonFC; "Oh, here's $1000 more of my money this year. Hey, and while you're at it could you take 12%? No! 15%!"
05:45 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
05:46 DaemonFC; There's actually a Treasury Web site where you can go to pay the government even when you don't have to.
05:46 DaemonFC; I know, weird, right?
05:46 DaemonFC; https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454/
05:46 TR Bot; - Gifts to Reduce the Public Debt
05:46 TR News; But mostly Windows https://www.engadget.com/security-researchers-find-lockbit-ransomware-can-target-macos-devices-164446912.html
05:46 TR Bot; researchers find LockBit ransomware can target macOS devices | Engadget
05:47 DaemonFC; Does throwing Elon Musk in the lake so that he doesn't soak us for $5-6 billion worth of Tesla "credits" each year count?
05:48 DaemonFC; https://www.pay.gov/public/form/preview/pdf/101
05:48 TR Bot; - Page Unavailable
05:48 DaemonFC; There ought to be a part on this form where you certify that you've lost your goddamned mind and want to give your money to them.
05:49 DaemonFC; No thanks, I was saving up!
05:49 DaemonFC; Government: For what?
05:50 TheRealPhanes; DaemonFC, the tax bracket thing is actually a myth. when you make more and get bumped up to a higher bracket, only the money you make after you break that threshold is taxed at the higher rate
05:50 TR News; librarians https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/21/how-to-support-your-local-librarians/
05:50 TR Bot; to Support Your Local Librarians - CounterPunch.org
05:50 DaemonFC; Oh, you know, that next thing that comes around every 12 months like clockwork where you threaten to toss me in prison if I don't give it to you then!
05:50 DaemonFC; That's not accurate.
05:50 DaemonFC; TurboTax shows that if you add income and go into another bracket then all of it gets taxed at that bracket.
05:51 DaemonFC; It's not a hybrid bracket system.
05:51 TheRealPhanes; well then turbotax is wrong
05:51 DaemonFC; Some states have that though.
05:51 TR News; My grill lost its Internet connection. How am I supposed to cook remotely? Heck, how will RUSHAN HAX0RS cook for me? https://www.engadget.com/best-smart-grills-and-how-to-choose-one-153006286.html
05:51 TR Bot; to shop for a smart grill | Engadget
05:51 TheRealPhanes; who the hell wants smart appliances
05:52 TR News; "Smart" grills are for consumers with fried brains
05:52 TheRealPhanes; that always seemed like something marketers started selling when nobody asked for it
05:52 DaemonFC; Eh, okay.
05:52 DaemonFC; I just looked at the forms. Yeah.
05:52 DaemonFC; I don't know, I haven't filed a paper return in so long I guess I forgot.
05:53 DaemonFC; I think the last paper tax return I filed at the federal level was 2002?
05:53 TheRealPhanes; more money is more money. employers use this lie often to justify lower salary increases
05:53 DaemonFC; The only reason I had to send a paper return to Illinois once was the first year I filed here and they'd never heard of me before so their e-file kicked it back.
05:53 DaemonFC; So I just started from the federal form and filled out the state one like it said to.
05:54 DaemonFC; Well, more money is kind of more money.
05:54 DaemonFC; There are cases for keeping your AGI down.
05:54 DaemonFC; Like the SAVERS Credit.
05:54 DaemonFC; If you'll go slightly over, you should do something about that.
05:54 TheRealPhanes; these are systems designed to keep poor people poor
05:54 TheRealPhanes; its a trap
05:55 DaemonFC; How does taking $1,000 off your tax bill every year keep you poor?
05:55 schestowitz[TR2]; and powerless
05:55 DaemonFC; While the rest is in a retirement account?
05:55 schestowitz[TR2]; poor and powerless not always the same
05:55 schestowitz[TR2]; you can be highly paid and still be powerless
05:55 schestowitz[TR2]; in the workplace etc.
05:55 TheRealPhanes; you think you're going to retire? by the time you do, that money won't even fill your gas tank. you need to invest aggressively your entire life.
05:55 DaemonFC; I keep hitting them with the SAVERS Credit at the $1,000 level by making the retirement contribution whatever it has to be to go under that level of AGI.
05:55 schestowitz[TR2]; same for working conditions
05:56 schestowitz[TR2]; leverage, conditions and salary not the same thing
05:56 DaemonFC; Also, when you have earned income and Social Security on the same 1040, lowering the AGI from the W-2 can also lower the taxable Social Security portion.
05:56 DaemonFC; And that's money they don't ever get to tax.
05:56 TheRealPhanes; i'd take a 300k dollar apartment building over a million dollar retirement portfolio any day
05:57 DaemonFC; Oh, my mom has raided her retirement money so many times, each one with them taking $128 for sending her a thousand dollar check.
05:57 DaemonFC; I mean, with money....not smart.
05:57 TheRealPhanes; hire a property management service, and replace a water heater every couple years. done. enjoy your retirement.
05:57 DaemonFC; They charge $128 whether you take out $1,000 or $10,000 or $100,000.
05:57 TR News; ICBM: HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2023/04/how-to-get-substantial-value-from-ai.html
05:58 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: How to Leverage AI for Substantial Business Value
05:58 DaemonFC; So if you're going to take it, take it.
05:58 DaemonFC; Otherwise, leave it the hell alone.
05:58 DaemonFC; Yes that is an outrageous fee. Walmart's plan only charges like $15 I think.
05:58 DaemonFC; Just another way the Catholics are ripping my mother off.
05:58 TheRealPhanes; retirement plans in general are ripoffs
05:58 DaemonFC; They picked a retirement account company that's as crooked as they are.
05:59 TheRealPhanes; 401k is not a good investment device
05:59 DaemonFC; That must have taken some doing.
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:59 DaemonFC; If you don't do it, you don't get the match or the credit.
05:59 TheRealPhanes; a 401k is nice to have in addition to an investment strategy that doesn't depend on it
06:00 DaemonFC; The match doubles your money up to 6% of your paycheck and the credit hands you $1,000 you don't have to give back, ever.
06:00 TheRealPhanes; yeah if you get 1:1 employer matching, but good luck getting that. most employers only match like 5% up to the first 5k or something dumb like that
06:00 DaemonFC; Well, the match and the credit are the only reasons to even fuck around with this.
06:00 DaemonFC; Walmart's is an open-ended match of up to 6% of your gross income.
06:00 TR News; Nobody was actually arrested for this https://www.engadget.com/heres-how-to-claim-your-cut-of-metas-725-million-cambridge-analytica-class-action-settlement-163255438.html
06:00 TR Bot; how to claim your cut of Meta's $725 million Cambridge Analytica class action settlement | Engadget
06:01 DaemonFC; They have a fairly generous match because most people either don't work there long enough to qualify or aren't smart enough to know to take it.
06:01 DaemonFC; And if they do, most are managers.
06:02 TR News; Gershkovich https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/04/how-to-support-evan-gershkovich/673777/
06:02 TR Bot; Evan Gershkovichs Defiance - The Atlantic
06:02 DaemonFC; Very rarely do you get anyone working the retail floor that is smart enough to know about retirement account matches or tax credits.
06:02 DaemonFC; All they know about credits is the more babies they make, the more the state gives them.
06:03 TheRealPhanes; a good policy for breeding the working poor
06:03 DaemonFC; It's a shit sandwich and if you don't want to pay for more baby making credits, take the damn retirement credit.
06:03 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman said it best.
06:04 DaemonFC; The reason that stupid people breed so much is.... "It's not difficult to do. Even some fish can figure it out."
06:04 DaemonFC; Another reason is because in this sad, sick, dying world, who else would want to?
06:04 DaemonFC; But when your only planning is, fuck, eat, buy lotto tickets, and go to jail every once in a while.....
06:04 DaemonFC; You don't consider this.
06:04 TheRealPhanes; if you think about the US as a big debtor prison all our problems make more sense. no real healthcare, just something expensive that gaslights them until its untreatable and then they die, but, they *have* health care so they don't riot. they get paid per baby. the old never get to retire. all their money goes to housing, food, and occassional recreation
06:05 DaemonFC; YES!
06:05 TR News; Nowadays people buy gadgets while animals die (without proper supervision) https://www.theage.com.au/traveller/reviews-and-advice/leaving-your-pet-at-home-for-a-holiday-how-to-find-a-reliable-sitter-20230405-p5cyds.html
06:05 DaemonFC; THIS!
06:05 TR Bot; How to find pet sitters when going on holiday
06:05 TheRealPhanes; anything that would break social programming like psychedelics is banned
06:05 DaemonFC; I went to one of those shitty sliding fee county doctors about my blood pressure.
06:05 TheRealPhanes; only things that make them sick can be used as medicine or recreation
06:05 DaemonFC; She told me eat less salt and walked back out with her clipboard.
06:06 DaemonFC; So I went to a real doctor and I'm on medicine now.
06:06 DaemonFC; Guess how much it costs to go to a real doctor.
06:06 DaemonFC; :)
06:06 DaemonFC; When the government ones that treat poor people for their recurring syphilis don't care about your blood pressure....
06:06 DaemonFC; You have to pay up if you want to live.
06:06 TR News; Philosophy masculinity https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2023/04/how-to-think-like-a-woman-regan-penaluna-book-review/673728/"
06:06 TR Bot; Philosophy Needs More Women - The Atlantic
06:07 DaemonFC; <TheRealPhanes> only things that make them sick can be used as medicine or recreation
06:07 DaemonFC; You mean like smoking.
06:07 DaemonFC; Yeah, tax the fuck out of that to prop up the state while they die and the state watches them die.
06:07 TR News; tomshardware still in bed with Microsoft and its hardware partners. tomshardware is rendering itself obsolete.
06:07 DaemonFC; Brilliant.
06:07 TheRealPhanes; DaemonFC, fwiw i spent like two weeks repeatedly visiting ortho for repeated x-rays before my ortho would acknowledge that my obviously broken arm was broken so i could get it treated before it turned gangrenous
06:07 DaemonFC; No Social Security so it's a twofer.
06:08 DaemonFC; That sounds about right.
06:08 TR News; CNET used to ACTUALLY be a tech site. Now it's a spam site which uses technical means (SEO) in pursuit of quick bucks. E.g. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/nottingham-forest-vs-man-united-livestream-how-to-watch-premier-league-soccer-from-anywhere/
06:08 TR Bot; Forest vs. Man United Livestream: How to Watch Premier League Soccer From Anywhere - CNET
06:08 TheRealPhanes; i have an esophegal tear that needs fixed next from years ago, but that will have to develop into something horrible before they'll look at it
06:08 DaemonFC; I sprained my ankle pretty bad and the ER gave me an Ibuprofen and a really expensive x-ray, and a $5 piece of shit to walk around in.
06:08 DaemonFC; Then sent a $6,000 bill.
06:09 TR News; CNET will shut down in a few years. Then ZDNet will join it. ZDNet already produces very little new "content". Shoestring budget, ugly new redesign.
06:09 DaemonFC; Next time you sprain something, go to the Walmart.
06:09 TheRealPhanes; ive considered moving to mexico
06:09 DaemonFC; Get yourself a bottle of Ibuprofen, some epsom salt for soaking it in, and a $5 splint.
06:10 TheRealPhanes; when im relatively young and healthy the US is fine but as i get older, its more clear that ill never get real medical treatment if i stay stateside
06:10 DaemonFC; Yeah, the State's Attorney here is suing the insulin people for price gouging.
06:10 DaemonFC; He says 11% of Lake County, IL has diabetes.
06:10 DaemonFC; STATE OF ILL
06:11 TheRealPhanes; lol
06:11 DaemonFC; The only reason the local government cares at all is the state government obligated them to pay for the insulin sometimes.
06:11 TheRealPhanes; honestly if they just fixed our fucking food supply chains and kept all the poison out they wouldn't have an 11% diabetic rate
06:12 TR News; Microsofters and Slashdot pushing Microsoft's and GAFAM's marketing ploy, sold in "Linux" clothing (misleading) https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/04/21/1736208/linux-foundation-launches-new-organization-to-maintain-tla
06:12 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Launches New Organization To Maintain TLA+ - Slashdot
06:12 DaemonFC; Given the choice between pissing the money down a rat hole and keeping some diabetic crackhead that sauntered into the Lake County Health Dept alive, what do you think they'd rather do?
06:12 TheRealPhanes; this takes me back to my debtor prison analogy
06:12 TheRealPhanes; cheap food, bad for you, but lots of it
06:12 DaemonFC; Yeah.
06:12 DaemonFC; $5 to eat at Taco HELL.
06:12 TheRealPhanes; more than that now
06:13 DaemonFC; They still have a combo meal that is $5.
06:13 DaemonFC; But it's getting sadder all the time.
06:13 TheRealPhanes; and hopefully some disgruntled stoner didn't contaminate it before you ordered it
06:13 TheRealPhanes; i dont eat at taco bell, too many food quality issues
06:13 DaemonFC; Jerking off into the taco meat?
06:13 DaemonFC; Happens.
06:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], ^
06:14 TheRealPhanes; its also disgusting food even without tampering issues
06:14 DaemonFC; Good source of protein!
06:14 DaemonFC; "Look at me. Jerking off into the taco meat vat. This is the high point of my day. It all goes downhill from here."
06:14 DaemonFC; Sort of a more disgusting opening for American Beauty with Kevin Spacey.
06:14 TheRealPhanes; the sad truth is when that happens it probably is
06:14 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
06:14 schestowitz[TR2]; taco with jerky
06:15 schestowitz[TR2]; i had vegan jerky an hour ago
06:15 TheRealPhanes; if its vegan its not jerky
06:15 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
06:15 DaemonFC; Nobody should have to do that.
06:15 DaemonFC; I hope you didn't pay for it.
06:15 schestowitz[TR2]; we got them 10p each
06:15 DaemonFC; Bill's Jerky
06:15 schestowitz[TR2]; instead fo 2.20 iirc
06:16 DaemonFC; Creepy Uncle Jerks in Your Mouth
06:16 TheRealPhanes; ive got a whole pork shoulder in my freezer, thinking about throwing it on the grill, but not really sure how to cook it
06:16 DaemonFC; You season it and then....wait for it....
06:16 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: not every vegan thing is "uncle creepy"
06:16 DaemonFC; You GRILL it.
06:16 TheRealPhanes; DaemonFC, too thick for grilling
06:16 schestowitz[TR2]; nor patented by his billness
06:16 DaemonFC; :)
06:16 schestowitz[TR2]; some are
06:17 DaemonFC; Well, you thaw it and cut it up and then season and grill it.
06:17 TheRealPhanes; i may put it in the oven instead
06:17 TheRealPhanes; let it fall apart after baking it all day at like 250
06:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Red Robin adds $3 to a burger if you have them put a Bill's Burger patty on it instead of real food.
06:17 DaemonFC; Creepy Uncle Bill's Certified 100% Lab Garbage
06:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], That Impossible and Beyond crap really fizzled out.
06:18 DaemonFC; McDonalds canceled it and soon there won't be a Burger King.
06:18 TheRealPhanes; id say they only sell that shit because stupid people keep buying it, but look at netflix
06:18 TR News; A quarter of Danish women in their 20s could go childless in light of climate concerns https://cphpost.dk/2023-04-21/news/a-quarter-of-danish-women-in-their-20s-could-go-childless-in-light-of-climate-concerns/
06:18 TR Bot; A quarter of Danish women in their 20s could go childless in light of climate concerns - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
06:19 DaemonFC; Yeah, the best investment is to just not buy anything like that.
06:19 DaemonFC; What is it? $20 to Netflix now just to watch that?
06:19 DaemonFC; So they can put up "erotic movies" about child abuse?
06:19 TheRealPhanes; see now that's a calling. i need to move to denmark and impregnate danish women to keep the population up
06:20 DaemonFC; I can do that.
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06:20 DaemonFC; FOR MONEY
06:20 TheRealPhanes; if they honestly just bring cooked meat to me ill do it for free
06:20 DaemonFC; But let's be real. Nobody wants you when you're crazy.
06:20 DaemonFC; Bad genes.
06:20 DaemonFC; Can't risk it.
06:20 TheRealPhanes; i got great genes
06:20 TheRealPhanes; i lucked out in that category
06:21 DaemonFC; Everyone with a mental problem says this but me for some reason.
06:21 TheRealPhanes; huh
06:21 TheRealPhanes; why do you think i have a mental problem
06:21 DaemonFC; Because most people do.
06:21 TheRealPhanes; nah im resilient af. i have some trauma.
06:21 DaemonFC; If you go looking hard enough, everyone is crazy.
06:22 DaemonFC; It used to be that people were better about not admitting and openly flaunting that they were crazy and perverted.
06:22 DaemonFC; If you liked wearing your wife's clothing, you shut the curtains and didn't leave the house wearing them.
06:22 TheRealPhanes; lol
06:23 TheRealPhanes; believe it or not im like as vanilla as it gets for a cis white guy
06:23 DaemonFC; Now people are super open about being crazy and perverted.
06:23 DaemonFC; "I want to cut my PENIS off!"
06:23 DaemonFC; You are so strong and I support you....
06:23 DaemonFC; (Nutcase!)
06:23 DaemonFC; You have to say the shit or lose your job now.
06:23 DaemonFC; :D
06:24 TheRealPhanes; you have the option to say nothing
06:24 DaemonFC; Oh no you don't.
06:24 DaemonFC; Haven't you heard?
06:24 TheRealPhanes; just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you have to voice your disagreement
06:25 DaemonFC; There's a difference between men wearing women's clothing, which I think is fine....
06:25 DaemonFC; And crossing over into body mutilation and drugs.
06:25 TheRealPhanes; i take a "nobody cares about your genitals" approach. i keep my opinions on it ambiguous.
06:25 DaemonFC; If you look at human history, high heels used to be men's shoes.
06:25 DaemonFC; Blue jeans used to be men's pants.
06:25 DaemonFC; I mean, you know, fashion changes.
06:26 DaemonFC; I get it,
06:26 DaemonFC; Biological sex and gender are immutable. They're facts.
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06:26 DaemonFC; People spend an enormous amount of money lying to themselves and fucking up their bodies irreparably.
06:27 TheRealPhanes; yeah there's definitely a childhood development aspect of gender
06:27 TheRealPhanes; you can't relive your childhood
06:27 DaemonFC; I was furious when Keith crashed my aunt's funeral as "Jessica"
06:27 DaemonFC; And started introducing himself as her former spouse.
06:27 DaemonFC; Like, he had to do this. Nobody invited him.
06:27 DaemonFC; He just had to give her one last indignity.
06:27 DaemonFC; Couldn't even die and have a nice funeral.
06:28 TheRealPhanes; did she deserve any indignity from him? sometimes people do.
06:28 DaemonFC; No she did not.
06:28 TheRealPhanes; fair enough
06:28 DaemonFC; He sat over by the casket.
06:29 DaemonFC; Introducing himself to people.
06:29 DaemonFC; Wearing women's clothing.
06:29 TheRealPhanes; what a fuckhead
06:29 TheRealPhanes; had to make it about him
06:29 DaemonFC; Most trannies are like that.
06:29 DaemonFC; Have to be the center of the universe.
06:29 TheRealPhanes; narcissism comes in many forms
06:30 TheRealPhanes; and many sets of clothes
06:30 TheRealPhanes; its a big problem the last couple of generations
06:30 DaemonFC; Yeah, tell me about it.
06:31 TheRealPhanes; its because we do not have serious conflict
06:31 TheRealPhanes; there are no environmental stressors driving natural social processes
06:31 DaemonFC; There's plenty of environmental stressors.
06:31 TheRealPhanes; humans do not do well for too long in safe environments
06:31 DaemonFC; It's just that the solutions usually involve the state or their minions, the psychiatrist.
06:31 DaemonFC; So worse than the goddamned problem.
06:32 TheRealPhanes; well there's that end of it too
06:32 TheRealPhanes; honestly, if this thing with russia/china comes to direct conflict, it'll be on a scale that will impact these types of issues, the culture does adapt
06:32 DaemonFC; People tend to lie to their psychiatrist because they feel ashamed that there's something wrong.
06:33 DaemonFC; We all know it inside that nobody wants to hear it.
06:33 TheRealPhanes; masculinity becomes popular when society needs it, which is never when it's safe
06:33 DaemonFC; Well, what's going on with the Trumpists and the "Alt-Right" is that the assholes like GULAG are trying to exterminate the concept of gender in general and masculinity in particular.
06:34 DaemonFC; And people are reacting to that in a bad way.
06:34 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG is a Dalek.
06:34 TheRealPhanes; if uncle jessica had been airdropped into germany to fight chinese and had a regiment of men he fought with, that funeral event wouldn't have likely happened
06:35 TheRealPhanes; he'd be too busy being a necessary man to be anything else
06:35 DaemonFC; Or it would have been his, which I would strongly have preferred.
06:35 TheRealPhanes; men have to do men things
06:35 TheRealPhanes; if they don't have to they get docile and weak
06:36 DaemonFC; We're losing purpose.
06:36 DaemonFC; And so you see the social issues that causes.
06:36 TheRealPhanes; we can talk all day about toxic masculinity, but if you remove the concept of manhood from the social formula there stops being a society from which to gather the formula
06:36 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG is an agitator and then he bitches about all the problems people like him have created.
06:37 TheRealPhanes; oh dude, that guy doesn't think on this level
06:37 DaemonFC; There was never any serious "Trump" like movement in this country until the Social Justice Daleks tried wiping out the concept of gender.
06:37 DaemonFC; Even at Kindergarten level.
06:37 TheRealPhanes; he's just a gaping mouth attached to a narcissist, he is barely even conscious at that level
06:38 TheRealPhanes; most of his statements are attention-seeking
06:38 TheRealPhanes; particularly when they're at others' expense
06:38 DaemonFC; Yeah, so it's like, so obvious why his partner is his partner.
06:38 DaemonFC; :)
06:38 TheRealPhanes; yep she's made a career off doing the same shit
06:38 DaemonFC; Birds of a feather and all that.
06:39 TheRealPhanes; no meaningful contribution except the toxicity they introduced by lying about their peers
06:39 TheRealPhanes; neither of them can really compete in any space
06:40 TheRealPhanes; it's occurred to me though that even if they are toxic narcissists that even people with that disorder have to be allowed to live and earn income
06:40 TheRealPhanes; my preference would be at a wendy's drive-thru
06:40 TheRealPhanes; but they can't handle that kind of work because they're weak
06:41 TheRealPhanes; so i mean it comes to a head in the thought process -- "what else would they do for a living" and nothing comes to mind
06:41 TheRealPhanes; some people just have a parasitic relationship with society
06:46 DaemonFC; Yeah, I wonder how Wendy's is getting bigger.
06:46 DaemonFC; I don't usually even go there.
06:46 DaemonFC; No coupons. Why should I?
06:46 TheRealPhanes; they actually have a decent burger. their chili is repulsive though.
06:46 DaemonFC; Mom likes it.
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08:35 immibis; I still think Matt should sue for defamation
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08:39 DaemonFC; https://www.ksl.com/article/50627196/for-transgender-kids-a-frantic-rush-for-treatment-amid-bans
08:39 TR Bot; transgender kids, a frantic rush for treatment amid bans | KSL.com
08:39 DaemonFC; "Asher plays his guitar. When he began menstruating...."
08:40 DaemonFC; These people are fucking sick.
08:40 DaemonFC; Doing this to kids.
08:45 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
08:50 DaemonFC; That you deny basic facts of human biology.
08:50 DaemonFC; And make a clown out of yourself in the process?
08:51 DaemonFC; Such as "men do not menstruate" and "boys do not start menstruating".
08:51 DaemonFC; These articles are just impossible to read. Absolutely sickening.
08:51 mjg59_; How are you defining "men"?
08:51 DaemonFC; And "people" (in general) do not "get pregnant.
08:51 DaemonFC; Men don't menstruate or get pregnant.
08:51 DaemonFC; No real man menstruates or gets pregnant.
08:52 DaemonFC; This is the Orwellian horseshit.
08:52 DaemonFC; Where they start out demanding that you believe absurdities.
08:52 DaemonFC; Then they want you to allow them to commit atrocities against little kids.
08:52 mjg59_; Ok. So a 3-year old who doesn't mensturate or get pregnant is a man?
08:53 DaemonFC; Like indoctrinating them into this cult that maybe they aren't their biological gender or maybe it's okay to let perverts into the little girl's bathroom.
08:53 DaemonFC; No, I mean if you're menstruating or starting to menstruate, that's....not a man.
08:53 DaemonFC; Because that doesn't happen to men, ever.
08:53 DaemonFC; Along with pregnancy.
08:53 DaemonFC; (Thank god.)
08:54 DaemonFC; And only a true degenerate sack of shit is trying to inflict this crap on children.\
08:54 mjg59_; So you don't know whether or not a 3-year old is a man until years later when they potentially start to menstruate?
08:54 DaemonFC; Men have penises.
08:54 DaemonFC; Functional penises.
08:54 mjg59_; Well ok that's a different definition
08:54 DaemonFC; I would hope that this goes without saying.
08:55 mjg59_; So before we go any further, could you please precisely define "man" and "woman"
08:55 DaemonFC; If a man loses his penis, his real functional penis, he's a disfigured man.
08:55 DaemonFC; And the only excuse for this is they had to take it because of a medical condition that was very serious. Like, horrible accident or cancer.
08:55 DaemonFC; Dick cancer.
08:56 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> So before we go any further, could you please precisely define "man" and "woman"
08:56 DaemonFC; Okay.
08:56 DaemonFC; Man: Never menstruates. Ever. Has dick by default unless lost in horrible accident or due to dick cancer.
08:56 DaemonFC; Functional testicles produce their own testosterone.
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08:57 DaemonFC; Is usually a fair bit taller and physically more imposing due to the testosterone produced by the real testicles, which function.
08:57 DaemonFC; Does not get pregnant due to lack of female reproductive system.
08:57 mjg59_; Are all of these things required?
08:57 DaemonFC; Has a prostate gland.
08:58 mjg59_; Or is this a list of nominally sufficient criteria?
08:58 DaemonFC; It's like, you know, the totality of the circumstances, and yes there are absolutes.
08:58 DaemonFC; There is no "male identity".
08:58 DaemonFC; There are some bull dykes and other butch women. Hey, whatever. That's fine.
08:58 DaemonFC; They're still women.
08:59 DaemonFC; With all of the woman-ey bits.
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08:59 DaemonFC; There's some "femboys" but still male. If they managed to use the reproductive system it works.
09:00 DaemonFC; I assume that, biologically speaking, I could reproduce if I wanted to.
09:00 DaemonFC; I've never seen fit to try because this world is getting worse by the minute.
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09:00 DaemonFC; I don't know if dying economy or Social Justice Daleks is worse.
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09:01 DaemonFC; Both are the fault of Democrats.
09:01 mjg59_; Sounds like you'd agree that Carster Semenya is a woman, then?
09:01 DaemonFC; I don't know who that is.
09:02 DaemonFC; Okay, that sounds like a birth defect.
09:02 DaemonFC; So, like how do you classify like a one in 100 million freak of nature?
09:02 DaemonFC; Good question.
09:02 DaemonFC; Most people don't think about it that much.
09:03 DaemonFC; There's lots of birth defects. That doesn't change what gender is.
09:03 DaemonFC; The traditional definition fills 99.999999999999% of the necessary criteria.
09:04 DaemonFC; I'm sorry about the gender dysphoria or whatever the official name for the mental illness is.
09:04 DaemonFC; Must be awful.
09:04 DaemonFC; Not being able to look between your legs and figure it out.
09:05 DaemonFC; Is it mean to say someone is mentally ill? It can be. If you mean it to be hateful.
09:05 DaemonFC; A lot of people simply are, in some way or another.
09:05 DaemonFC; I don't mean it to be hateful, I mean it because it's a fact.
09:05 DaemonFC; And other people should not be playing into this and enabling it.
09:06 DaemonFC; They should come up with some treatment that works people through whatever awful condition that they have that makes them reject themselves.
09:07 DaemonFC; People a lot smarter than me would need to come up with a therapy but giving puberty blockers to kids is like throwing free cigarettes at a smoker to sabotage their recovery.
09:07 DaemonFC; You're making sure that they never have a chance to get better and that most people will be disgusted, horrified, or weirded out, or laugh at them, for the rest of their lives.
09:08 DaemonFC; That's not an okay thing to do to a kid.
09:09 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Now, TheRealPhanes knows why I'm so appalled by all of this.
09:09 DaemonFC; "Uncle Jessica"
09:09 DaemonFC; What an asshole.
09:09 DaemonFC; (Keith)
09:09 DaemonFC; What he did was unforgivable.
09:10 DaemonFC; If he wanted to go do that, why did he get married and have kids first and then run out on them?
09:11 DaemonFC; When you have a family you have made a choice. The only honorable thing to do is commit to that choice.
09:12 DaemonFC; We have too many broken homes in this country, but the liberals made that fine too.
09:12 DaemonFC; They set up the welfare state, the no fault divorce, now they're teaching boys to be girls and girls to be boys, because why not.
09:13 DaemonFC; And anyone who says anything about the depravity of this, is vilified.
09:13 DaemonFC; Completely ass backwards, Matt.
09:15 DaemonFC; You can't even say mentally ill anymore.
09:15 DaemonFC; We're on the euphemism treadmill to soft language city.
09:15 DaemonFC; "Neurodivergent"
09:15 DaemonFC; A very "neurodivergent" stabber. The Neurodivergent Nazi.
09:16 DaemonFC; Microsoft let him in and let him harass everyone there, openly flaunt racism and xenophobia and talk about his STDs and drugs.
09:16 DaemonFC; Then bam. Stabbing attack!
09:16 DaemonFC; Who saw it coming?
09:17 DaemonFC; That's the world that the SJWs want us to accept.
09:17 DaemonFC; You can't say anything about anyone. So nobody does. Nobody complains while you have some goddamn weirdo in there talking about the green discharge he's been having ever since that last hooker.
09:18 DaemonFC; And when nobody says anything, eventually you get this.
09:19 DaemonFC; If anyone complains about it, THEY get fired.
09:19 DaemonFC; Picking on the "neurodivergent".
09:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_, You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you? :P
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09:20 DaemonFC; That word is contemptuous in and of itself.
09:27 immibis; TheRealPhanes: you should know that the incel community rates danish women as the most unattractive
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09:32 TheRealPhanes; <immibis> I still think Matt should sue for defamation <--- i would love that
09:34 TheRealPhanes; a 3 year old can't get pregnant by the biological nature of their species, this has nothing to do with gender, Matt just doesn't understand biology.
09:35 TheRealPhanes; <immibis> TheRealPhanes: you should know that the incel community rates danish women as the most unattractive <---- so don't go there?
09:38 TheRealPhanes; he's trying to argue that biological function doesn't determine gender by misconstruing biological functions along sex lines as not being tied to sex by subverting the information that these are post-puberty sexual characteristics he's referring to, using a pre-pubescent model as his analytical example
09:38 TheRealPhanes; ironically, while responding to the accusation that he doesn't understand biology
09:40 TheRealPhanes; i'll allow it since i don't have a dog in this fight, but if he starts talking about theory of forms we're going to have to fist fight in the parking lot
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09:41 schestowitz[TR2]; can we focus on tech? thanks.
09:41 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, isn't your attendance award in a biology focus
09:42 schestowitz[TR2]; TheRealPhanes: let it go
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; let's focus on tech
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; one thing he never studied
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; and cannot teach
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; as an imposter
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; and when he did his bioilogy phd he was transphobic
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; focus on his abuses in tech
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; it's on topic
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; he wwants to changed the topic
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; to taunt and imtimidate peoiple
09:43 TheRealPhanes; it is actually deeply concerning that he teaches in a security focal and knows so little about the profession
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; focus onm his tech abuyses
09:43 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
09:43 schestowitz[TR2]; like uefi 'secure' boot, tpm, etc.
09:44 schestowitz[TR2]; he literally works FOR microsoft inside linux
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09:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
09:44 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: which part of your syllabus taught CS?
09:44 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: which part of your syllabus taught programming?
09:44 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: which part of your syllabus taught security?
09:44 TheRealPhanes; or design
09:45 TheRealPhanes; don't forget systems design
09:45 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: It turns out it's possible to learn things outside universities?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: when did you write your first computer program?
09:45 mjg59_; 1986, I think
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; what were your grades in computer studies at school?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; how many projects did you _start_ from scratch?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; how many graphical toolkits did you use?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; which do you prefer?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; did you ever use java?
09:45 schestowitz[TR2]; did you ever use php?
09:45 mjg59_; I was top of my class in computing up until I moved to a school that didn't offer it
09:45 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, can you describe your requirements analysis and reqs mgmt approach when designing any system?
09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; what hurts you is people being on topic\?
09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; you turf to an area that's not
09:46 mjg59_; I've written in GTK and QT, focusing more on the former because at the time the state of accessibility support in Gnome was significantly better and that's what I was being paid to work on
09:46 schestowitz[TR2]; like eff since barlow died
09:46 mjg59_; I haven't written any significant quantity of java or php
09:47 schestowitz[TR2]; bbl coffee
09:47 mjg59_; So, having answered those:
09:47 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
09:47 TheRealPhanes; isn't it weird how he skirts the design questions
09:47 mjg59_; I wasn't talking to you, so I ignored it
09:47 TheRealPhanes; you'd almost say it's a sensitive area by the way he handles it
09:48 TheRealPhanes; and in all fairness your argument was laughably ignorant of biology
09:48 mjg59_; No, you simply engaged with a fake misunderstanding of what I actually said
09:48 mjg59_; Sad, really
09:49 TheRealPhanes; no you used a prepubescant example to try to demonstrate post-pubescant, innate sexual characteristics weren't sexually determined, instead of arguing that gender and sex are separate concepts
09:50 TheRealPhanes; how you arrive at your answers is just as important to the quality of your argument as what conclusion you arrive at
09:50 mjg59_; No, I engaged with an argument that defined gender on the basis of post-pubsecant characteristics
09:50 TheRealPhanes; not at all
09:51 TheRealPhanes; you introduced lifecycle
09:51 mjg59_; Nope
09:51 mjg59_; Go back and read it again
09:52 TheRealPhanes; lol! you did. In any case, your wrong argument didn't take into account that post-pubescant sexual characteristics are innate to their corresponding sex, which is why that argument falls apart. You really should keep that argument a taxonomial one based purely off the differing concepts of sex and gender.
09:53 mjg59_; How do you know what post-pubescant sexual characteristics are going to be before puberty?
09:53 TheRealPhanes; by sex, genes if you need to
09:53 TR News; Inflation as a symptom? https://stanforddaily.com/2023/04/20/we-are-running-out-of-time-colombian-president-calls-for-climate-action-during-stanford-visit/
09:53 TheRealPhanes; outside of very, very rare birth defects or genetic anomalies
09:53 TR Bot; Colombia president calls for climate action at Stanford talk
09:54 TR News; Media failing us https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/21/the-problem-of-the-media-with-respect-to-climate/
09:54 TR Bot; Problem of the Media with Respect to Climate - CounterPunch.org
09:54 TheRealPhanes; look, we get it, you didn't pay attention to that topic either. man this happens alot with you though.
09:55 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: If you can define it without referring to post-pubescant characteristics, then defining it on the basis of post-pubescant characteristics seems incorrect?
09:55 TR News; Twitter does not matter. Twitter is a relic. https://www.dw.com/en/throwing-soup-at-artwork-or-a-climate-rally-what-wins-twitter/a-65383936
09:55 TR Bot; soup or a climate rally what wins Twitter? DW 04/21/2023
09:55 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, no because pregnancy is sex-linked even if it's a post-pubescant expression of sex
09:55 TR News; We burn a lot of stuff, heating it up and creating smog. This makes sense. https://www.dw.com/en/un-climate-report-past-8-years-warmest-on-record/a-65401007
09:55 TR Bot; climate report: Past 8 years 'warmest on record' DW 04/21/2023
09:56 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: No, that's clearly incorrect - no definition of sex includes "Can get pregnant", because we do not stop categorising people as women simply because they can't get pregnant
09:57 TheRealPhanes; people born with male genitalia don't go through puberty umpteen years later and then get pregnant. it's a sex-linked capacity that is fulfilled by specific organs that grow as a product of genetic configuration during development.
09:57 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: You may assert that the ability to get pregnant is restricted to members of one sex, and that's a coherent argument, but it's not definition
09:58 mjg59_; Ok! So how do you tell whether a 3-year old is male or female
09:58 mjg59_; I assume you're not trying to get them pregnant
09:58 mjg59_; That would be *super* fucked up
09:58 TheRealPhanes; are you seriously arguing that taxonomial classification is not performed against the subject's properties, because if you are, you should stop taking whatever you're taking
09:58 mjg59_; I'm asking you what properties provide a coherent definition
09:59 TheRealPhanes; im saying that SEX is marked by the binary presence of male reproductive organs OR female reproductive organs in the vast majority of all humans ever born as a product of their genetic configuration irregardless of their GENDER
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10:00 TheRealPhanes; that property is of SEX and is definitional
10:00 mjg59_; That's a circular argument
10:00 mjg59_; You're saying that the definition is based on something that's definitional
10:01 TheRealPhanes; no i said the definition is based on the presence of properties
10:01 TheRealPhanes; that's definitional
10:01 mjg59_; And I asked which properties are used to define sex
10:01 mjg59_; You've asserted that it's the presence of reproductive organs
10:01 mjg59_; Ok, we can work with that
10:01 TheRealPhanes; there ya go
10:01 mjg59_; So sex isn't binary?
10:01 TheRealPhanes; dude are you having a stroke?
10:02 TheRealPhanes; im saying that SEX is marked by the binary presence of male reproductive organs OR female reproductive organs in the vast majority of all humans ever born as a product of their genetic configuration irregardless of their GENDER
10:02 mjg59_; If it's binary than literally everyone fits into one of two categories
10:02 mjg59_; If anyone doesn't, then it's not binary
10:02 TheRealPhanes; that doesn't quite work that way but it would break a bot
10:02 mjg59_; This is obvious
10:02 TheRealPhanes; there are exceptions in the case of defects both genetic and developmental
10:03 mjg59_; So it's not binary
10:03 TheRealPhanes; in the same way that saying "people are born with 10 fingers and toes" and acknowledging that some people are born with more or less as a result of defects
10:03 mjg59_; So it's not binary
10:04 TheRealPhanes; pretty weak argument dude
10:04 mjg59_; So it's not binary
10:04 TR News; Still getting worse faster than anything improves https://www.vox.com/science/23691377/earth-day-2023-facts-wins-climate-biodiversity
10:04 TR Bot; Day 2023: 7 big policy wins for the planet - Vox
10:05 TR News; Hypocritical slave lady lecturing us about climate https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/STATEMENT_23_2386
10:06 TR Bot; Press corner | European Commission
10:06 immibis; TheRealPhanes: where did matt say a 3-year-old could get pregnant (and why?)
10:06 TR News; Military also a major source of pollution https://jacobin.com/2023/04/lockheed-martin-climate-change-shareholder-meeting-emissions/
10:06 TR Bot; The Board of Lockheed Martin Has Spoken: Climate Change May Proceed
10:06 TheRealPhanes; immibis, im sorry, I don't smoke crack so I don't understand why you think I said that.
10:07 TR News; greenwashing fluff, stroking their corporate egos https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/23424-european-parliament-adopts-key-laws-to-reach-2030-climate-target.html
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10:07 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, what part of the human reproductive system do you believe involves even a third sex if you're not going to argue that sex and gender are disparate concepts?
10:08 TR News; Carte blanche to pollute even moar https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/20/climate/noaa-spring-outlook-california.html
10:08 TR Bot; NOAA Forecasters See a Respite for California - The New York Times
10:08 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: See again you're engaging with something that isn't what I said
10:08 TR News; Greenwashing. EU even pretends gas is "green" https://cphpost.dk/2023-04-19/news/mette-frederiksen-speaks-at-climate-meeting-as-green-hydrogen-project-gets-under-way
10:08 TR Bot; Mette Frederiksen speaks at climate meeting as green hydrogen project gets under way - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
10:09 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: Maybe you should get better at reading
10:09 TR News; When you reduce people to shoestring budget and then make heating too expensive https://nltimes.nl/2023/04/19/energy-ministers-climate-plan-push-petrol-prices-higher-dividing-cabinet-parties
10:09 TR Bot; Energy ministers climate plan would push petrol prices higher, dividing Cabinet parties | NL Times
10:09 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, you just asserted repeatedly that sex is not binary, so, giving you the benefit of the doubt and trying to understand what part of the successful use of reproductive organs in our species involves a non-binary sexual exchange
10:09 schestowitz[TR2]; why is this channel not on science and tech?
10:10 schestowitz[TR2]; it has been derailed by trolls
10:10 schestowitz[TR2]; canm't even runa tech site
10:10 schestowitz[TR2]; without all those provocateurs
10:10 schestowitz[TR2]; i saw the same done to wikileaks
10:10 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
10:10 TheRealPhanes; i think anyone reading can ascertain what he meant, Mr. Security Controls
10:10 techuser; It looks like all growing places with free speech eventually turn into trolls ruining everything.
10:10 schestowitz[TR2]; it is also happening to eff in recent years
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: I called you worse
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; on tech
10:11 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: If sex is binary, then every single human can be unambiguously placed in one of two categories. You've admitted that that's not true.
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; but you choose not to dscuss that
10:11 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; you're rather talk about women with big cocks than about what you do for microsoft
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; i want to tealk about tech
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; you do not
10:11 schestowitz[TR2]; because you're not good at it
10:11 mjg59_; You're the one who brought up the topic
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; you're a useless idiot of spcial interests
10:12 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, so you're playing taxonomy games based on birth defects to assert that sex is binary, which is a pretty weak argument and hinges on academic dishonesty
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; you're like cantroll
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; cantrell
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; but a troll
10:12 TheRealPhanes; *to assert that sex is not binary
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; cantrell did not troll, afaik
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; just an incompetent fool
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; paid a lot
10:12 techuser; And with no free speech, moderators can sometimes become the trolls.
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; for nothing good
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; biab
10:12 schestowitz[TR2]; reading climate news
10:12 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you actually mean when you called me a "biology denier"?
10:13 TheRealPhanes; rofl this dude just lives in a parallel universe in which his arguments don't get continuously destroyed here
10:13 TR News; So many people, so much power consumption https://www.dw.com/en/india-migration-from-climate-change-getting-worse/a-65369043
10:13 TR Bot; Migration from climate change getting worse DW 04/19/2023
10:13 TheRealPhanes; but yes let's talk about tech
10:13 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: If you can't place everyone in one of two categories based on your definition, then either (a) your definition is wrong or (b) there are more than two categories
10:14 mjg59_; Those are the only two options
10:14 TR News; The press talks about Ukraine now (was COVID-19 beforehand) while barely talking about climate anymore https://www.dw.com/en/the-global-jet-set-feels-the-heat-over-climate-change/a-65365655
10:14 TR Bot; global jet set feels the heat over climate change DW 04/19/2023
10:14 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, no because a defective entry is definitionally an anomaly at entry to classification
10:15 TheRealPhanes; but let's talk about tech. i want to see how you do requirements analysis and management in project design
10:15 TR News; That's why the green party gets many votes from the left https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2023/04/19/greens-repeat-call-for-end-to-fossil-fuels-as-climate-activists-gather-in-london/
10:15 TR Bot; Greens repeat call for end to fossil fuels as climate activists gather in London
10:15 mjg59_; So they're not human?
10:15 mjg59_; Or not animals?
10:16 TR News; Many of these investors are so old that they're not with big stakes in the outcome of climate change https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/cat-and-mouse-australia-s-biggest-coal-miner-faces-investor-revolt-over-climate-stance-20230418-p5d1c6.html
10:16 TR Bot; Glencore faces shareholder revolt over coal, climate change stance
10:17 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, how do you do stakeholder engagement when gathering requirements for a system you're designing?
10:18 mjg59_; I have PMs to do that for me
10:18 TheRealPhanes; no, a PM wouldn't perform that function. try again.
10:18 mjg59_; Sucks to be you, I guess
10:19 mjg59_; It's literally not my job to gather requirements. Given requirements, I present what's possible.
10:19 techuser; schestowitz[TR2]: regarding topics, you ask people to talk about tech, but the bot sends things about climate change.
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10:20 TheRealPhanes; so in some project structures a BA or systems analyst would process them so you may have an out, but, it's odd that you'd be allowed to do system design without doing an SA or BA role for a few years
10:20 techuser; Is it relevant?
10:20 techuser; Assuming "tech" here is "computers and related things".
10:20 TheRealPhanes; most companies won't let you touch an architecture role until you've proven you can do the SA function
10:21 TheRealPhanes; just to avoid requirements analysis failure
10:21 mjg59_; Yeah, most companies are very dull
10:21 TheRealPhanes; how very telling
10:21 TheRealPhanes; well it certainly is creating a negative profile in your design competency
10:21 mjg59_; I work places where we don't expect one person to perform all these roles
10:22 TheRealPhanes; most places don't
10:22 TheRealPhanes; that doesn't mean that everybody doesn't know what everybody's job is
10:22 mjg59_; So people present me with requirements and I tell them whether or not these requirements can be met
10:22 TheRealPhanes; and as a designing architect you are expected to know how to perform requirements analysis to ensure that it's being done correctly
10:22 mjg59_; If they can be, I present them with designs for solutions that meet those requirements
10:23 mjg59_; No? I trust the people whose job that is.
10:23 TheRealPhanes; most designing architects actually are required to perform the SA role for several years before being seen as qualified to do their job
10:23 mjg59_; There's a lot of people I depend on without an expectation that I could do their job
10:23 TheRealPhanes; as an SA they follow the architect around for years learning the trade
10:23 mjg59_; Don't really know what to tell you here
10:23 TheRealPhanes; it's how they learn the design process
10:23 TheRealPhanes; which you don't seem to have
10:24 mjg59_; Your job sounds very boring
10:24 TheRealPhanes; there are parts of it that are excruciatingly boring
10:24 TheRealPhanes; there are also parts of it that are very rewarding
10:24 mjg59_; I have people who do the boring stuff for me
10:24 TheRealPhanes; no
10:24 TheRealPhanes; no you don't
10:24 mjg59_; Actually do
10:24 TheRealPhanes; because you're not doing anything
10:24 TheRealPhanes; you're not developing/implementing
10:24 TheRealPhanes; you're certainly not designing
10:24 mjg59_; I mean, I am?
10:25 immibis; <TheRealPhanes> im saying that SEX is marked by the binary presence of male reproductive organs OR female reproductive organs in the vast majority of all humans ever born ... <- what about the minority
10:25 mjg59_; Wrote a whole bunch of bootloader code yesterday
10:25 mjg59_; Based on a design I wrote
10:25 TheRealPhanes; you're not doing the reqs, or the submitting to the RFP
10:25 mjg59_; Based on requirements sourced from various teams
10:25 TheRealPhanes; maybe this would make more sense if you stopped calling them "designs" because that's not really what they are
10:25 immibis; <schestowitz[TR2]> why is this channel not on science and tech? <- you tell me, you are the one who makes the topic "Matt is a criminal" (defamation) and "woman spends 500 days in cave"
10:26 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: what did you mean when you called mjg a biology denier?
10:26 mjg59_; And now we have support for module signing without requiring non-ephemeral keys
10:26 TR News; How an American Logging Giant Bills Itself as a Climate Hero https://gizmodo.com/weyerhaeuser-logging-carbon-offsets-forests-1850349057
10:26 TR Bot; How an American Logging Giant Bills Itself as a Climate Hero
10:26 TheRealPhanes; hey mjg59_ i didn't say what you do isn't extremely technical sometimes, I'm just saying it's not design, and it's not development.
10:27 immibis; how is designing and writing a bootloader not designing or writing
10:27 TheRealPhanes; like what you describe would only survive in places like google or facebook where you can coast off laurels and prestige your way through based on the presence of your email address on a 15 year old mailing list
10:28 mjg59_; immibis: He's obsessed with definitions that make sense if you're dealing with some piece of enterprise code that has to satisfy the requirements of 15 different business units who are still running batch jobs that involve a machine emulating punch cards
10:28 TR News; Coping With Extreme Heat https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/18/climate/extreme-heat.html
10:28 TR Bot; Indias Heat Season Gets Off to a Deadly Start - The New York Times
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10:29 TheRealPhanes; immibis, he does not understand any of several schools of thought on system design in a professional capacity.
10:29 mjg59_; immibis: In which case you spend way more of your time figuring out what everyone's unwritten dependencies are, and learning that there's actually multiple different auditors who have different ideas about how keys have to be managed
10:29 TR News; Fake climate solutions https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/04/17/fake-climate-solutions-that-are-making-climate-change-worse/
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10:29 TR Bot; Fake climate solutions that are making climate change worse - Modern Diplomacy
10:29 immibis; i'm seeing from phanes basically the same thing I see from schestowitz which is just a string of bad descriptions with zero underlying evidence
10:30 immibis; may as well just be "ur dumb"
10:30 TR News; Impact on fauna https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/climate-change-is-impacting-bird-migration-patterns-here-s-what-we-know-1.6796477
10:30 mjg59_; immibis: Working in that space is fairly brutal - it's genuinely hard to figure out what the fuck people actually need, and this is a big part of why you hear about so many massively expensive failed IT projects
10:30 TR Bot; Climate change is impacting bird migration patterns. Here's what we know | CBC News
10:30 TheRealPhanes; immibis, essentially what he's doing is throwing shit at the codebase and seeing what works with no real requirements to meet in a best effort capacity
10:30 TheRealPhanes; which isn't horrible
10:30 mjg59_; immibis: But what he fails to understand is that this is not universal, and that many places do not need to deal with that kind of shit
10:30 TheRealPhanes; it just wouldn't fly in most professional environments
10:31 mjg59_; It's true that I'd probably do a poor job in that environment
10:31 immibis; oh the classic "my job is the only real job". I've seen that before
10:31 TR News; EU isn't serious about the serious solutions https://www.dw.com/en/eu-exit-from-climate-killing-energy-treaty-looms/a-65323709
10:31 TR Bot; exit from climate-killing energy treaty looms DW 04/17/2023
10:31 mjg59_; But he'd do a shit job in mine
10:31 TheRealPhanes; honestly i would probably eliminate your role
10:31 immibis; I wonder which group created things like Linux
10:31 mjg59_; Man good luck eliminating my role
10:31 immibis; was it the requirements analysts or the cowboy coders
10:32 immibis; at some point someone has to write the damn code instead of bikeshedding
10:32 mjg59_; See how quickly you get a ZTA solution out the door
10:32 immibis; and someone has to actually understand the fine details of the platform they are using, instead of the broad strokes
10:32 immibis; like when you write this register you must wait 200 cycles before writing any other register
10:32 immibis; phanes seems like more of an ideas guy
10:32 TheRealPhanes; those are implementation details the developing team would be expected to know
10:33 mjg59_; I guess he's never worked at a startup
10:34 TheRealPhanes; i tend to work at larger companies but i do plenty of work at startups, where you have to do all of those things or you end up in a neverending unpaid loop of "is it done"
10:34 immibis; wouldn't know a minimum viable product if it slapped him in the face
10:34 TR News; Kerry the hypocrite, like Gore, talking the talk, not walking the walk www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2023-04-16/climate-envoy-kerry-no-rolling-back-clean-energy-transition
10:34 TheRealPhanes; the work you have to do at a startup in the design process is ALL the roles instead of just the one he wants to pretend he does
10:34 immibis; you talking about yourself?
10:35 TheRealPhanes; immibis, nah i just had to explain critical path for a rollout just last week
10:35 TheRealPhanes; that's a google search term for you
10:35 TheRealPhanes; "critical path"
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10:35 immibis; that wouldn't fly in most environments that actually get stuff done
10:35 TheRealPhanes; MVP is what year one devs use to describe critical path when they're making excuses about why their impl sucks. Critical path is what people use to describe what MVP was intended for.
10:35 mjg59_; The weird bit here is where he refuses to accept that I work with people who collect requirements
10:36 mjg59_; And, well, I don't really know what to say there
10:36 immibis; clearly phanes does not understand "MVP", maybe he should google it
10:36 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, yeah after you pretended that startups don't do reqs analysis you kind of gave it away
10:36 schestowitz[TR2]; <immibis> <schestowitz[TR2]> why is this channel not on science and tech? <- you tell me, you are the one who makes the topic "Matt is a criminal" (defamation) and "woman spends 500 days in cave"
10:36 TheRealPhanes; or that you wouldn't be expected to at a startup
10:36 mjg59_; My PMs bring me requirements, I design stuff that meets that
10:36 schestowitz[TR2]; it was a science article
10:36 TheRealPhanes; rofl
10:36 TheRealPhanes; what a hilarious joke
10:36 immibis; mjg59_: yeah it's exactly the same as Roy saying you're a transphobe, and when asked for the evidence, the evidence says you used to be one and now you aren't, but Roy refuses to accept that
10:37 immibis; it's just plain delusion
10:37 immibis; like russia's story about denazifying ukraine
10:37 schestowitz[TR2]; you are mischaracterising what i Said
10:37 TheRealPhanes; immibis, as the dumb person in the room you should know what words mean when you use them, and googling only gets you so far
10:37 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
10:37 immibis; TheRealPhanes: if mjg can make money doing "easy work" then why are you so bad that you can't make money without doing the "hard work"?
10:37 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
10:37 schestowitz[TR2]; that's what I showed
10:37 schestowitz[TR2]; he said so himself
10:37 immibis; https://techwrongs.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
10:38 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
10:38 TheRealPhanes; MVP and "critical path" are interchangeable on those shops, but which one you use often gives away whether you know what they mean or not.
10:38 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
10:38 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: there's literally zero stuff on this page, just the deranged ramblings of a lunatic
10:38 TheRealPhanes; <immibis> TheRealPhanes: if mjg can make money doing "easy work" then why are you so bad that you can't make money without doing the "hard work"? ||| Huh? ROFL I make GREAT money, what are you talking about?
10:39 mjg59_; https://tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/297876977
10:39 immibis; you're doing the same thing that Q cultists do when they say JFK Jr is coming back from the grave
10:39 immibis; which is presenting a picture full of random snippets and some red arrows and circles and a summary saying this is proof of something
10:39 TheRealPhanes; immibis, oh is this one of those games where you interject with lies to try to enflame people who disagree with the person whose dick you're trying to suck with lies
10:40 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: I'm just really not clear on why you refuse to believe that other people gather requirements for me
10:40 TheRealPhanes; immibis, because if you can't argue a case without distorting, then you really don't have a viable argument do you
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10:41 immibis; I guess TheRealPhanes believes that requirements analysts don't exist which is very odd since he says he is a requirements analyst
10:42 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, because you think that you wouldn't have to at startups, so, we know you haven't done work at startups, and you acknowledge the need at larger enterprises where your "segmented specialization" argument would hold more water, and, knowing you generally work for larger enterprises and cannot -define- the process used, it's clear you didn't put that time in as an SA before architecture and cannot gauge the validity of your requirements
10:42 TheRealPhanes; -- this also means you're not able to differentiate between agile and waterfall methodologies in this process
10:42 TheRealPhanes; immibis, i did not say that reqs analysis doesn't exist and never said i was a requirements analyst, you're just a crazy liar
10:43 immibis; i don't even understand how phanes is trying to make a coherent argument
10:43 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, in an agile space you'd be dedicating time in every cycle to requirements management
10:43 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: Depending on startup scale, *I'm* the sole person defining requirements
10:43 mjg59_; No need to gather them, because I'm doing it
10:44 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, ok, so then you're also doing requirement analysis, and i want you to define that process
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10:44 mjg59_; And, well, I don't really know what to say in terms of larger enterprises, because Google is pretty large and absolutely does not delegate requirements analysis to the same people who are designing the solution
10:44 TheRealPhanes; its funny because every time you expand on your argument you make it more clear that you're completely bullshitting here
10:45 mjg59_; Maybe you should write a blog post about how incompetent I am?
10:45 mjg59_; It'd probably have a larger audience than the membership of this IRC channel
10:45 TheRealPhanes; no need, these things speak for themselves as soon as people start asking you questions
10:45 mjg59_; And you could get some feedback on whether the rest of the world agrees with you
10:46 mjg59_; Dude I'm 42 and people keep employing me, I can assure you that questions get asked
10:46 mjg59_; https://tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/297876977
10:46 mjg59_; Kind of wild that it just breaks on that
10:47 TheRealPhanes; in all honesty if I didn't have first hand knowledge that you were a horrible person I'd probably give you a break and bring you on as a promising SA on a path to design systems of your own after a few years based on some of your responses but as someone who literally performs as and interviews people who do what you do you would not make it through the screening
10:47 mjg59_; Dude I think I've made it pretty clear that I have zero interest in working in the space you work in
10:47 TheRealPhanes; not for a designing architect
10:48 TheRealPhanes; you're not doing it at startups, mid-cap or large-cap
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10:49 TheRealPhanes; so we're talking special project R&D at big 5, like facebook, google where the standards are non-existent and the responsibility for success is determined by community outreach impact
10:49 TheRealPhanes; those guys are hell to work with too, because they'll have one specialization and be completely ignorant of the broader play happening to get a product created
10:50 TheRealPhanes; often results in shuttering project after interpersonals break down on the team
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10:51 mjg59_; My last project at Google involved firmware, OS installation, VARs, shipping companies, OEMs, and warehouse staff
10:51 immibis; TheRealPhanes: Are you interviewing him for a job?
10:51 mjg59_; The requirements were handled by the PM assigned to the project
10:51 mjg59_; She was amazing
10:52 TheRealPhanes; project managers do not have the training to do requirements analysis
10:52 TheRealPhanes; or the education
10:52 mjg59_; No clue why you believe that
10:52 TheRealPhanes; and their career path won't give them the experience to
10:52 TheRealPhanes; yeah, "no clue" is right, because you're bullshitting
10:52 mjg59_; There was literally zero presumption that I would gather requirements
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10:53 mjg59_; My job was to come up with a solution that met those requirements
10:53 TheRealPhanes; yeah im getting the picture
10:53 TheRealPhanes; it's not system design then, it's development/implementation
10:54 mjg59_; Well, other than the bit where I designed the solution
10:54 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: what did you mean when you called mjg a biology denier?
10:54 TheRealPhanes; i don't think that word means what you think it means "designed"
10:54 TheRealPhanes; interestingly enough what tipped me off that you might be bullshitting your way through was the other day when you didn't know what security controls were
10:55 mjg59_; I wrote the design documents that were reviewed and signed off by the stakeholders
10:55 TheRealPhanes; and it wasn't a slip of the tongue, i probed all around it here in this channel to get you to demonstrate on multiple layers that you didn't know even the concept
10:55 TR News; Phoronix managed not to do Microsoft promotions for about a week now. That's an improvement. Credit where due...
10:55 mjg59_; Man look a door lock is a physical security control
10:56 TheRealPhanes; no its not
10:56 immibis; guess you failed the job interview to work at Silo Group. guess nobody cares except phanes
10:56 TR News; Last Microsoft spam from Phoronix was 6 days ago https://www.phoronix.com/news/CBL-Mariner-2.0.20230407
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10:56 mjg59_; You're welcome to believe otherwise
10:56 mjg59_; But that's not how people use language
10:56 mjg59_; You have a particular set of jargon that you adhere to because of your incredibly boring job
10:56 TheRealPhanes; a security control is a unit in a body of like units that define what the system or environment should do. a lock IMPLEMENTS a security control but is NOT a security control
10:56 schestowitz[TR2]; TheRealPhanes: what gap does silo fill up?
10:57 schestowitz[TR2]; or what problem does it solve?
10:57 TheRealPhanes; it's not "my jargon" it's fucking NIST defined you liar
10:57 schestowitz[TR2]; seems to me like yet another distro
10:57 schestowitz[TR2]; based on rpm or similar iirc
10:57 mjg59_; Sure, it's jargon used by people who also share your incredibly boring job
10:57 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/security_control
10:57 TR Bot; security control - Glossary | CSRC
10:57 mjg59_; Everyone else ignores it
10:58 mjg59_; You're so fucking touchy about this
10:58 mjg59_; At some level I think you know that your life sucks
10:58 TheRealPhanes; yeah because up until recently i thought you were a technical peer that just had an ethics issue in dealing with others by lying about them, but no, you're lying about your ability to perform your profession too
10:58 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
10:58 TheRealPhanes; nah bruh my life is great, i love exposing you
10:59 mjg59_; If that's the high point in your life, your life objectively sucks
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10:59 TheRealPhanes; i get great enjoyment out of exposing defamers because they always have shit to hide and always deserve it
10:59 TheRealPhanes; justice is my fix
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11:00 immibis; think you've got the right idea here mjg. phanes knows his life sucks and all he has in his life is the ability to insist he's better than other people
11:00 mjg59_; Yeah it's pretty tragic
11:00 TheRealPhanes; because as this develops it's becoming more clear to you that the real version of what you pretend to be is holding you accountable and i know that sucks
11:00 immibis; there's a reason I had him on /ignore. He's a troll
11:00 immibis; he keeps changing his username to evade /ignore
11:00 immibis; he knows nobody wants to hear his drivel
11:01 TheRealPhanes; immibis, yes please add me back on ignore, you are literally too stupid to be in the channel
11:01 immibis; nick* not username
11:01 immibis; It's telling that he claims to want to stop seeing what I type, but he chooses not to /ignore me
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11:01 mjg59_; This mf wanted to be an ircop for Andrew Lee
11:01 immibis; that's because he craves drama
11:01 TheRealPhanes; you interject with nonsense derived from your inability to process words in your mother tongue
11:01 immibis; mjg59_: speaking of andrew lee, I think I figured out why he used the nick "root"... the default nick in irssi is your username :)
11:01 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, wanted to be? I'm pretty sure I was -paid- to be.
11:02 mjg59_; Yeah I don't get paid except to do things I want to do
11:02 immibis; and "rasengan" is something from an anime series beloved by 12-year-olds
11:02 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, i had my reasons for being there.
11:02 mjg59_; They sucked
11:02 mjg59_; Or you sucked
11:02 mjg59_; Whatever
11:02 TheRealPhanes; nah the old freenode staff needed to learn some shit.
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11:02 mjg59_; I'm glad it's dead, and I'm glad everyone associated with new freenode is tainted for life
11:03 TheRealPhanes; im not
11:03 immibis; the old freenode staff had a functioning network, and then it fell apart once mr. i-know-better-than-everyone phanes here "taught them some shit". Coincidence?
11:03 TheRealPhanes; tbh i only ever hear about it except from the occassionally rhetoric-charged invalid
11:03 TheRealPhanes; like immibis
11:03 mjg59_; I went to a pub in London and someone ran up to me and shouted "FUCKING CHRIS PUNCHES" and I was worried for a moment but it turned out they recognised me and hated you
11:03 TheRealPhanes; great
11:03 mjg59_; Less than a year ago!
11:04 TheRealPhanes; i never said i dont have haters
11:04 mjg59_; Hmm probably 2022-06-09
11:04 TheRealPhanes; i tell ya what though, when you find someone who does hate me, anyone who knows me knows that there's a good reason why
11:04 mjg59_; Pretty sure it was a Thursday
11:04 immibis; "everyone that knows me knows there's a good reason to hate me" - you
11:04 TheRealPhanes; yep
11:04 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: what did you mean when you called mjg a biology denier?
11:05 TheRealPhanes; because i hold fuckheads accountable and fuckheads do not like that
11:05 immibis; ^ by asking this every few minutes schestowitz is blocked from talking because he has to pretend to be afk to avoid the question
11:05 mjg59_; biab coffee
11:05 mjg59_; bbl
11:05 TheRealPhanes; "why did you call me a biology denier" ** proceeds to deny human biology with a broken taxonomical argument **
11:06 immibis; hey i'm not the one saying that 3 things form a binary
11:06 TheRealPhanes; that shit was memeworthy
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11:06 TheRealPhanes; immibis, i didn't say that, that was just the dumber, weaker argument you fabricated on my behalf when you found yourself either unable or unwilling to address what i actually said
11:06 TheRealPhanes; I'm learning more towards "unable" as you speak more these days
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11:06 immibis; sure it was, buddy, sure it was
11:06 mjg59_; TheRealPhanes: Do you have a macro for that
11:07 mjg59_; Streamdeck set up so you can just mash a button and it pops out
11:07 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, no but i should, it's a generational problem i've noticed
11:07 immibis; reckon a markov chain could emulate phanes pretty well?
11:07 mjg59_; Yeah
11:07 immibis; or heck just spew random messages from his chat history, no editing
11:07 mjg59_; He's not actually stupid
11:08 mjg59_; But the model is pretty simple
11:08 TheRealPhanes; we popped out a few cycles that can't deal with adversarial interaction and immediately devolve to straw men before even attempting to address opposing argument
11:08 immibis; wdym of course he's stupid
11:08 schestowitz[TR2]; immibis: to address your point quickly
11:08 mjg59_; Oh, I don't think he's /stupid/
11:08 mjg59_; He has some ability
11:08 schestowitz[TR2]; i leanred 20 years ago in usenet not to feed trolls
11:08 schestowitz[TR2]; you make it abundantly clear you are trolling me
11:08 schestowitz[TR2]; so bye
11:08 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:09 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:09 mjg59_; I've had to fix his bugs
11:09 mjg59_; Or explain why he was seeing an error
11:09 mjg59_; But I'm not immune to that
11:09 *phanes (~bagira@jxqj2xhh7xv92.irc) has joined #techrights
11:09 TheRealPhanes; oh boy, an imposter
11:10 phanes; oh boy, an imposter
11:10 schestowitz[TR2]; will you quit trolling this channeel?
11:10 TheRealPhanes; because baiting me has worked out so well for your friends
11:10 schestowitz[TR2]; like a pair of masturbating monkeys?
11:10 schestowitz[TR2]; i can discuss technical things
11:10 *RealPhanes (~34777320@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; i am a technical person
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; u8nlike some here
11:11 RealPhanes; Haha disregard that I suck cocks
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; whoi pretend
11:11 *TheRealPhanes is now known as lord_bagira
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; i do not pretend to be lecturing in biology
11:11 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:11 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; i have a phd in medical biophysics
11:11 *schestowitz[TR3] (~schestowitz[TR]@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; i finished my work when mjg59_ wasfailing his phd
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; and had a mental crisis
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; and DV
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; cya guys later
11:11 lord_bagira; schestowitz[TR2], can you deal with the imposters
11:11 schestowitz[TR2]; I am busy curating news
11:11 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:12 schestowitz[TR2]; not gonna waste time playing with you trolls
11:12 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:12 phanes; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:12 RealPhanes; Haha disregard that I suck cocks
11:12 phanes; project managers do not have the training to do cock sucking
11:13 phanes; or the education
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg is the kent hovind of the tech world
11:13 phanes; and their career path won't give them the experience to
11:13 lord_bagira; honestly that one might be true
11:13 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; got biology degree with a religious school
11:13 phanes; it's not system design then, it's development/implementation
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: : god made man
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: : god made woman
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; from men's ribs
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; then he made a nice fry-up
11:13 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: did god make intersex people
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; with the ribbs
11:13 schestowitz[TR2]; fin.
11:14 mjg59_; Uh dude I've been an athiest for an *extremely* lon gtime
11:14 lord_bagira; the lowest class of theologian
11:14 mjg59_; Cambridge is pretty fucking secular
11:14 lord_bagira; ironically the atheist employs more faith than that which they typically detest
11:15 phanes; no need, these things speak for themselves as soon as people start asking you questions
11:15 schestowitz[TR3]; biab
11:15 schestowitz[TR2]; now the trolls made imposter accounts
11:15 mjg59_; Of all the arguments that could be made against me, the idea that I went to a religious school is clearly false
11:15 schestowitz[TR2]; we deal with children here...
11:15 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:15 lord_bagira; schestowitz[TR2], yeah its hard to tell who is who
11:15 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:15 schestowitz[TR3]; I simply meant that you deny biology.
11:16 schestowitz[TR3]; You do not believe in biology.
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; schestowitz[TR3]: is imposter
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; it's not me
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; have fun trolling
11:16 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:16 schestowitz[TR3]; You deny biology.
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; 20 years ago people used my name
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; to post in usenet
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; saying i had cut off my penis
11:16 schestowitz[TR3]; You believe that reproduction is not sex-based.
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; saying this using my own name
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; this is what you trolls have stopped down to
11:16 schestowitz[TR2]; shame on you
11:16 lord_bagira; the dude just spent like 2 hours pretending statistically anomalous birth defects break binary classification systems
11:17 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:17 phanes; project managers do not have the training to do penis cutting
11:17 RealPhanes; Haha disregard that I suck cocks
11:17 schestowitz[TR3]; You deny biology, mjg59_
11:17 *RealPhanes is now known as lordbagira
11:17 schestowitz[TR3]; Bi-ology, the study of two things.
11:17 schestowitz[TR3]; Male, and female. God created two of us in his image.
11:17 mjg59_; Ok that one was actaully good
11:18 phanes; it just wouldn't fly in most professional environments
11:18 lord_bagira; I could actually picture some PMs I've worked with as penis cutters designated by the government to do the work of the penal system.
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11:18 phanes; maybe this would make more sense if you stopped calling them "penises" because that's not really what they are
11:19 phanes; that property is of SEX and is definitional
11:19 phanes; a 3 year old can get pregnant by the biological nature of their species, this has nothing to do with gender, Matt just doesn't understand biology.
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11:19 mjg59_; It'd be fascinating to train a language model on Ryan
11:19 phanes; we can talk all day about toxic penis, but if you remove the concept of penis from the social formula there stops being a penis from which to gather the formula
11:19 lord_bagira; who is ryan
11:20 mjg59_; daemonfc
11:20 phanes; men have to do penis things
11:20 lord_bagira; oh maybe
11:20 phanes; if they don't have to they get docile and weak
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11:20 mjg59_; I lean towards thinking that the topic shifts are just so bizarre that it'd be impossible to model in a realistic way
11:20 immibis; on the contrary a markov chain model would do qute well at the topic shifts
11:20 lord_bagira; it might be financially literate though
11:20 immibis; markov chain controlling the topic of some more complicated model, anyway
11:20 mjg59_; But maybe the chaotic energy of a model would mimic it quite well
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11:21 phanes; i have an esophegal penis from years ago, but I don't want them to fix it.
11:21 schestowitz[TR2]; lord_bagira: you are feeding some military-grade trolling
11:21 schestowitz[TR2]; including imposter accounts
11:21 schestowitz[TR2]; pretending to be me
11:21 phanes; penis is not a good investment account
11:21 schestowitz[TR2]; these saboteurs should be ignored
11:22 schestowitz[TR2]; they try to provoke me to get banned
11:22 lord_bagira; yeah you should deal with imposters. im all about free speech but impersonation is kind of a boundary.
11:22 schestowitz[TR2]; and then they will whine about being oppressed
11:22 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:22 schestowitz[TR2]; for stealing my name in my own network
11:22 lord_bagira; whining is easy to tune out
11:22 schestowitz[TR2]; as i said, militayr-0grade trolling
11:22 schestowitz[TR2]; right here
11:22 lord_bagira; i didn't think it was all that clever
11:23 lord_bagira; he doesn't know what a markov chain is
11:23 phanes; i didn't think it was all that clever
11:23 schestowitz[TR2]; i will contact aurora if this carries on
11:23 schestowitz[TR2]; trolling people online and abusing them
11:23 schestowitz[TR2]; instead of doing work
11:23 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:23 schestowitz[TR3]; You deny biology.
11:23 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:23 psydruid; lol
11:23 mjg59_; It's Sunday. Am I supposed to be working on Sunday?
11:23 schestowitz[TR3]; Matthew Garrett believes in woke gender ideology, which is not science.
11:24 psydruid; trolls have stooped to extreme levels of stupidity
11:24 phanes; penis is not a good investment account
11:24 lord_bagira; lol
11:24 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:25 TR News; Fedora Linux 38 https://blog.fedora-fr.org/renault/post/Sortie-de-Fedora-Linux-38
11:25 TR Bot; Sortie de Fedora Linux 38 - Dans les entrailles du Libre
11:25 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: I was under the impression that you didn't approve of contacting people's employers to tell them about things they said on IRC?
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/Raspoutine2020/status/1650048318850883585#m
11:25 TR Bot; Bill Barrire (@Raspoutine2020): " cest a la philanthropie tous les mmes http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | La Contre-Voie - nitter
11:25 schestowitz[TR3]; I approve when the victim is woke.
11:25 lord_bagira; well shit i might as well stay up now or my sleep cycle will be off for monday
11:25 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: I will contact your ISP if youi carry on
11:25 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
11:25 schestowitz[TR2]; schestowitz[TR3] is an imposter
11:25 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:25 schestowitz[TR2]; it's not me
11:26 schestowitz[TR3]; HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
11:26 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: Good luck with that tbh
11:26 *schestowitz[TR4] (~schestowitz[TR]@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
11:27 schestowitz[TR4]; I heard there was some drama.
11:27 mjg59_; I look forward to them forwarding me the complaint and then publishing it as a "Ha ha look at what people send us" thing
11:27 TR News; LXQt 1.3 Released with Bug Fixes http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/LXQt-1.3-Released-with-Bug-Fixes
11:27 TR Bot; LXQt 1.3 Released with Bug Fixes Linux Magazine
11:27 lord_bagira; dammit. roy which one are you?
11:27 schestowitz[TR3]; I am roy
11:27 lordbagira; Ignore them roy, I'm the real Chris Punches
11:27 schestowitz[TR4]; schestowitz[TR3] is an imposter. I am roy
11:27 lord_bagira; administrate your channel
11:27 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:27 lordbagira; Fuck off phanes
11:28 lordbagira; Stop impersonating me
11:28 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:28 phanes; lordbagira is me
11:28 phanes; lord_bagira is an impostor
11:28 lordbagira; I'm not
11:28 lordbagira; Ban them both
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; base64-encoded child porn follows
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; lJxTQx0/OCVuSpGmv+EKW4VWQmwUXjwIiRmxkMeTNGLDpTWW5UBhrKzAOvzv2SYmk7pc0cbCubKJ
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; v8JwkBz2tR5Y5JCFbQqhLmFK5Wz/7O+ZaK1AdKaGzQpeQ9GY7us6ZNmqlM+Pkmcon4amReOpKM53
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; uJAIpen928g6PDDnZS4trK7B/o3Jy6c+g9QGMMcWMWr5stpn1nnDARLUOjxkOnhD0nFy5jwGGCnK
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; /SDlMENOsXuIVyF3B6gggTzb2V3EuUzRyzWF/0BV83/EGthUgWxLOKqP9cLjRbFTkmY8yt/ndP5M
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; Dc9j/LYJ55w+DMIzk3pWKLOHjvmINUQ66anWB2lYBR/As9B2dHLabHOgYF4ku/bxNvtNSsz22M2b
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; uTaVnQWY2ga6A8RBjbKz/SytBsTjhkvn/IjT1S6JsKjFaU57TOmMCYLzlsMmNdS2fsZPDwRKEpkz
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; A7ypl/FOnhbOURk3AsmHCujmXRbp4MTtxcaUm2ng9ZIsA3yEytLMmK9Y0IgIeUuk3izLlDcV6xtQ
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; zCf51BhJ5tOhOpeGK/1lP8BxjMmxyNQJCblKuadSzAtFcZK/VJ23jHLUWMSsyVdqhgwVFc1nnGTg
11:29 schestowitz[TR3]; jKwPsqscC3NW1lnNGLV9YuaTRpLOvW3xPIcm9ClGFirKS7qiCaK8yZBQkINEfWkuK4gTOGCOiDeK
11:30 *schestowitz[TR3] has quit (Quit: Terminated by law enforcement.)
11:30 lord_bagira; when he said aurora i thought for a second that he meant Valerie Aurora
11:30 TR News; Trying Out Some Nautilus Extensions https://www.linux.org/threads/trying-out-some-nautilus-extensions.44012/
11:30 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.linux.org/threads/trying-out-some-nautilus-extensions.44012/ )
11:30 psydruid; a really pathetic bunch of trolls
11:31 TR News; (NEW): GPU Screen Recorder For Linux Adds Support For AMD And Intel GPUs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/GPU_Screen_Recorder_For_Linux_Adds_Support_For_AMD_And_Intel_GP.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/GPU_Screen_Recorder_For_Linux_Adds_Support_For_AMD_And_Intel_GP.gmi
11:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines GPU Screen Recorder For Linux Adds Support For AMD And Intel GPUs
11:31 phanes; please ban lord_bagira, he is impersonating me
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; it's not trolling
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; it is sabotage
11:31 lord_bagira; poor people have to stay entertained
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; and the goal seems to be to obstruct the site
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; from doing actual work
11:31 lord_bagira; or they'll riot
11:31 psydruid; yes
11:31 schestowitz[TR4]; yes
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; i am planning to record some long videos this week
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; about corruptiuon
11:31 psydruid; expose them
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; biab
11:31 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:31 schestowitz[TR2]; catching up with new
11:32 schestowitz[TR2]; *news
11:32 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:32 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: screw you and your pedo buddies
11:32 phanes; a 3 year old can get pregnant by the biological nature of their species, this has nothing to do with gender, Matt just doesn't understand biology.
11:32 psydruid; people have to know what these saboteurs are about
11:32 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:32 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:32 *lord_bagira is setting a macro
11:32 schestowitz[TR2]; phanes: i saw worse
11:32 schestowitz[TR2]; like 20 years ago
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; i criticise microsoft
11:33 *psydruid_ (~psydruid@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; and then people showed up in usenet
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; using my full name
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; I was a student at the time
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; and said harmful things, in my name
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; they then contacted the uni in droves
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; to get me disconnected
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; i was literally disconnected
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; after they had lied about me
11:33 schestowitz[TR4]; HAHA DISREGARD THAT. I SUCK COCKS.
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; and posted with my name
11:33 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: You just threatened to contact my ISP
11:33 schestowitz[TR2]; imposters
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: you and your lk do illegal things now
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; like pushing child pr0n
11:34 schestowitz[TR4]; i have already contacted your isp matt
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; I can contact m,ore than ISP
11:34 *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; I could contact us authorities
11:34 mjg59_; I have done nothing illegal
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; or irish
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; and report you folks
11:34 mjg59_; So, uh, go for it?
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; whoever you are
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; you use tor
11:34 schestowitz[TR4]; lies
11:34 mjg59_; I'm sure you'll get a crime number
11:34 schestowitz[TR4]; you are a criminal
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; or some vps
11:34 schestowitz[TR2]; so hard toi prove who is who
11:34 lord_bagira; <mjg59_> I have done nothing irish
11:34 *phanes has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
11:35 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:35 lord_bagira; <mjg59_> I have done nothing irish
11:35 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:35 psydruid_; You denied biology.
11:35 psydruid; the narc fake kernel hacker
11:36 psydruid; right, impostor
11:36 lordbagira; X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
11:36 *psydruid_ has quit (Quit: leaving)
11:36 *schestowitz[TR4] has quit (Quit: leaving)
11:36 mjg59_; psydruid: Huh the code in the kernel with my name on it isn't real?
11:36 lord_bagira; lol why is he using my name for that, nobody will believe that i would do that lol
11:37 psydruid; mjg59_, I bet it's crap
11:37 psydruid; anyway, I'm moving away from that kernel
11:37 mjg59_; psydruid: Maybe you should look at it
11:37 psydruid; no, I don't care
11:37 lord_bagira; psydruid, librekernel is promising
11:37 *schestowitz[TR4] (~schestowitz[TR]@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
11:37 *psydruid_ (~psydruid@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
11:37 psydruid_; rude
11:37 psydruid; lord_bagira, what is it?
11:37 schestowitz[TR4]; rude
11:37 mjg59_; psydruid: So you have no idea whether it's crap
11:38 lord_bagira; psydruid, linux-libre
11:38 mjg59_; Haha fucking linux-libre
11:38 psydruid; mjg59_, I don't wosh to run code written by you
11:38 TR News; See you at Linux-Infotag in Augsburg, Germany on April 29th, 2023! https://linmob.net/see-you-in-augsburg-lit-2023/
11:38 TR Bot; - See you at Linux-Infotag in Augsburg, Germany on April 29th, 2023!
11:38 mjg59_; psydruid: Eh better not use a computer then
11:38 psydruid; lord_bagira, I'm moving to other kernels
11:38 lord_bagira; mjg59_, what's wrong with linux-libre?
11:38 psydruid; mjg59_, indeed
11:38 psydruid_; mjg59_, indeed
11:38 schestowitz[TR4]; mjg59_, what's wrong with linux-libre?
11:39 psydruid; schestowitz-TR2, this is getting out of hand completely
11:39 mjg59_; linux-libre patches out support for updating CPU microcode, and removes the warning that failing to do so leaves you vulnerable to CPU sidechannel attacks
11:39 lordbagira; No, *I* am out of hand completely
11:39 psydruid; x86 CPU microcode
11:39 psydruid_; schestowitz-TR2, this is getting out of hand completely
11:39 psydruid_; x86 CPU microcode
11:39 schestowitz[TR2]; psydruid: that's their goal, stop feeding them
11:39 psydruid; lol
11:39 schestowitz[TR4]; psydruid: that's their goal, stop feeding them
11:39 schestowitz[TR2]; they will get bored
11:39 lordbagira; schestowitz[TR4]: this is getting out of hand completely
11:39 psydruid_; lol
11:40 schestowitz[TR4]; they will get bored
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; and if they carry on, i will contact the autrhorities here
11:40 psydruid; schestowitz[TR2], or you can moderate
11:40 schestowitz[TR2]; the phone is next to me alrteady
11:40 schestowitz[TR4]; and if they carry on, i will contact the autrhorities her
11:40 psydruid; and take action
11:40 mjg59_; Oh no the internet police
11:40 psydruid_; schestowitz[TR2], or you can moderate
11:40 mjg59_; What crime are you going to allege
11:40 psydruid_; and take action
11:40 schestowitz[TR4]; mjg59_: interference in inter-state communications is a serious crime
11:40 lord_bagira; mjg59_, he could call DIICOT they don't even need evidence of a crime apparently
11:40 mjg59_; Roy "I'm unwilling to moderate my IRC server, but I will call the police if I get sad" Schestowitz
11:40 psydruid_; that's a good idea. Call DICKOUT
11:41 lord_bagira; yeah dude just set some banhammers
11:41 *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights
11:41 psydruid_; how about you ban your mom?
11:41 schestowitz[TR4]; that's a good idea. I will ban your mom.
11:41 lord_bagira; im okay with that
11:41 mjg59_; Racism, anti-semitism, transphobia and so on are fine, but oh no if some people troll me I'm going to call the authorities
11:41 *schestowitz[TR4] sets mode: +b your!mom@*
11:41 mjg59_; Fucking hell dude
11:42 mjg59_; You've made your priorities pretty clear
11:42 TR News; How to Unzip a Tar.gz File in Linux https://www.maketecheasier.com/unzip-targz-file-linux/
11:42 TR Bot; How to Unzip a Tar.gz File in Linux - Make Tech Easier
11:42 psydruid_; Trans men are men
11:42 lord_bagira; lol @ "how to unzip a tarball"
11:42 schestowitz[TR2]; gunzip
11:43 schestowitz[TR4]; gun discussion is off-topic
11:43 TR News; Tips and Tricks for Optimizing Linux Device Performance https://www.fosslinux.com/111937/tips-and-tricks-for-optimizing-linux-device-performance.htm
11:43 TR Bot; Top 10 Tips to Optimize Your Linux Device Performance
11:43 schestowitz[TR4]; can't we keep it as a tech channel
11:43 lord_bagira; i think it's immibis based on how he misunderstands words and what they mean
11:43 *schestowitz[TR3] (~6d466411@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
11:43 psydruid; only those two?
11:44 psydruid; or more clowns?
11:44 lord_bagira; just has that fundamental illiteracy vibe
11:44 immibis; I got pinged?
11:44 TR News; 2 Ways to install Bitwarden on Debian 12 or 11 Linux https://linux.how2shout.com/2-ways-to-install-bitwarden-on-debian-12-or-11-linux/
11:44 TR Bot; 2 Ways to install Bitwarden on Debian 12 or 11 Linux - Linux Shout
11:44 lord_bagira; immibis, yeah, knock your shit off
11:44 schestowitz[TR3]; https://www.literotica.com/s/the-monster-pt-27
11:44 TR Bot; Monster Pt. 27 - Incest/Taboo - Literotica.com
11:44 TR News; Ubuntu 23.04 is out now with GNOME 44 and a stable Steam Snap https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/ubuntu-2304-is-out-now-with-gnome-44-and-a-stable-steam-snap/
11:44 immibis; not sure what's going on, but it's not me
11:44 TR Bot; 23.04 is out now with GNOME 44 and a stable Steam Snap | GamingOnLinux
11:44 immibis; schestowitz[TR2]: what did you mean when you called mjg a biology denier?
11:45 lord_bagira; yeah there it is
11:45 schestowitz[TR4]; You deny biology.
11:45 lord_bagira; its immibis
11:45 psydruid; immature clowns
11:45 schestowitz[TR3]; https://www.literotica.com/s/effy-and-the-descending-darkness-ch-12
11:45 TR Bot; And The Descending Darkness Ch. 12 - Sci-Fi & Fantasy - Literotica.com
11:45 TR News; FUD against GNU/Linux https://www.tomshardware.com/news/proton-overhead-slows-4090-4080-10-percent-on-linux
11:45 TR Bot; Proton Slows Down RTX 4090, 4080 By 10% in Linux vs Windows 11 Gaming Benchmarks | Tom's Hardware
11:45 lord_bagira; i actually wouldn't consider that FUD, Proton is absolute dog shit
11:45 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: What did you mean when you said I was a "biology denier"?
11:46 immibis; I wouldn't be surprised if nvidia slowed down their linux drivers on purpose, either
11:46 *#techrights :You're not a channel operator
11:46 schestowitz[TR4]; You deny biology.
11:46 lord_bagira; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
11:46 *#techrights :You're not a channel operator
11:46 psydruid_; immature clowns
11:47 lord_bagira; "birf defects disprove binary classifications of healfy thpethimens"
11:47 schestowitz[TR3]; https://www.literotica.com/s/alien-prostitute-ch-01
11:47 TR Bot; Prostitute Ch. 01 - Sci-Fi & Fantasy - Literotica.com
11:47 lord_bagira; i mean that was such a reach even for mjg
11:47 immibis; who decides what is healthy
11:48 immibis; obviously there's, like, things that kill you, and those are unhealthy, but being intersex doesn't
11:48 *#techrights :You're not a channel operator
11:48 *You are now known as schestowitz
11:48 mjg59_; So here's a thing
11:48 *schestowitz[TR4] is now known as schestowitz[TR2]
11:48 *schestowitz gives channel operator status to schestowitz-TR2
11:48 mjg59_; I've got a literal PhD in genetics, from Cambridge
11:49 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*6d466411@*.irc
11:49 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR3] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR3])
11:49 lord_bagira; so
11:49 schestowitz[TR2]; trolling is banned
11:49 mjg59_; And also my software development skills are well recognised
11:49 *schestowitz[TR2] has kicked lordbagira from #techrights
11:50 lord_bagira; that you confidence phish other peers is not an argument tbh
11:50 mjg59_; Whereas you have no qualifications in biology
11:50 *schestowitz[TR2] has kicked psydruid_ from #techrights (psydruid_)
11:50 mjg59_; And no reputation in biology
11:50 lord_bagira; oh an appeal to authority when the appeal to popularity failed
11:50 immibis; confidence phishing is what phanes does all the time but which one is real?
11:50 lord_bagira; i was wondering where your weak argument was going
11:51 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: Trolling is banned, but racism isn't?
11:51 immibis; cmon dude, if you're the real one you're constantly appealing to authority and popularity
11:51 lord_bagira; i didn't catch the racism bit
11:51 *schestowitz[TR3] (~c02a74dd@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
11:51 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: you mean calm discussion of racial differences?
11:51 TR News; 10 Best Linux File and Disk Encryption Tools https://www.tecmint.com/file-and-disk-encryption-tools-for-linux/
11:51 schestowitz[TR2]; that is allowed
11:51 TR Bot; 10 Best File and Disk Encryption Tools for Linux
11:51 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR2]: 15:33 < morena> and bellow average intelligent submissive obiedent africans
11:52 psydruid; how is Aurora doing again? staying afloat on taxpayer money while incurring losses for a long time to come?
11:52 lord_bagira; lol
11:52 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*schestowitz[tr]@*.irc
11:52 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR2] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR2])
11:52 lord_bagira; i know mjg59_ takes shit out of context but without the context that looks pretty racist bruh
11:52 mjg59_; lord_bagira: Oh it's super fucking racist
11:52 *schestowitz-TR2 is now known as schestowitz-TR
11:52 *psydruid_ is now known as schestowitz-TR2
11:53 mjg59_; [06:07]morenalike for example asians are more inclined to be ignorant, africans closer to idiots and sociopaths
11:53 schestowitz-TR2; morena speaks truth
11:53 schestowitz-TR2; unlike you morons
11:53 lord_bagira; mjg59_, i mean, you've got a track record of denying biology and having shitty design processes
11:53 schestowitz-TR2; You deny biology.
11:53 mjg59_; This is #freenode levels of art
11:53 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz-TR2 from #techrights (schestowitz-TR2)
11:53 lord_bagira; as well as far removing the context from things to misrepresent the factual nature of things to present a false light
11:54 schestowitz; time-wasting troll
11:54 schestowitz; your ilk, mjg, your ilk
11:54 schestowitz; you are s scum
11:54 lord_bagira; and really let's be honest, you've got a track record of libel using false light, with me in particular
11:54 lord_bagira; so
11:54 schestowitz; bbl
11:54 mjg59_; schestowitz: I'm quoting real people on this server
11:54 lord_bagira; you'll have to forgive me if i assume you pulled something out of context to misrepresent it as a racist statement
11:54 mjg59_; schestowitz: They're in your IRC logs
11:54 schestowitz; not the logs are messed up now
11:55 schestowitz; due to imposters
11:55 schestowitz; but you a a libel machine
11:55 schestowitz; so you would even quote fakes
11:55 schestowitz; like bruce byfield did
11:55 schestowitz; bbl
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11:56 mjg59_; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220423.html#tApr%2022%2006:07:41
11:56 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 22, 2023
11:56 lord_bagira; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/
11:56 TR Bot; Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew
11:56 mjg59_; I can promise you that I didn't spend several days just pretending to be some random tankie fuck so I could drop some racism
11:56 TR News; SpellBinding: GINRSTY Wordo: NAVAL gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-04-23.gmi
11:56 mjg59_; I have better things to do
11:57 mjg59_; I even flagged it as racist at the time!
11:57 lord_bagira; i prepaid the hosting on that to far outlive my life expectancy
11:57 psydruid; https://www.post-gazette.com/business/tech-news/2023/02/16/aurora-innovation-driverless-truck-commercialization-urmson-autonomous/stories/202302160112
11:57 TR Bot; District-based startup posts $1.72 billion loss as it nears driverless truck commercialization | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
11:57 schestovitz; black people are subhuman
11:57 TR News; Yretek - Treasures of the Wild East - Solo RPG - 02 gemini://yretek.com/english/2023-04-23_Treasures_of_the_Wild_East_Solo_RPG_02.en.gmi
11:57 psydruid; when are they going to fire employees to balance the books?
11:57 schestovitz; black people are subhuman
11:57 schestovitz; black people are subhuman
11:57 schestovitz; black people are subhuman
11:57 lord_bagira; meaning that many years after I am dead, people will be able to read about mjg59_ getting caught repeatedly lying about people for attention and career gain
11:58 TR News; "Looking for a Christmas present for the family I thought a 3D printer might fit the bill." gemini://clanmorgan.org/gemlog/2023-04-23-3d-printing-with-prusa.gmi
11:58 schestovitz; black people should be killed
11:58 schestovitz; i hate the blacks
11:58 *schestowitz[TR3] is now known as schestowitz[TR]
11:58 lord_bagira; schestowitz-TR, do you need some help
11:59 *psydruid_ (~3oy5t334v5@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
11:59 TR News; Green Habits: https://cphpost.dk/2023-04-07/opinion/building-green-habits-understand-your-consumables/
11:59 TR Bot; Building Green Habits: Understand your consumables! - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
11:59 *schestowitz[TR4] (~egjhekglhdfkl@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
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11:59 mjg59_; lord_bagira: Are you suggesting I faked that log?
11:59 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR4] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR4])
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12:00 lord_bagira; mjg59_, im suggesting that you have a track record of similar behaviours and that you tend to rely on false light as your MO
12:00 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*egjhekglhdfkl@*.irc
12:00 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR4] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR4])
12:00 schestowitz; too busy right now
12:00 schestowitz; they try to obstruct the site
12:00 schestowitz; with ddos
12:00 schestovitz; kill all blacks
12:00 mjg59_; lord_bagira: How do you hypothesise I faked that log?
12:00 schestowitz; of all kinds
12:00 schestovitz; gas the jews
12:00 lord_bagira; mjg59_, fix your damned english and try again
12:00 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*retyv54354\@*.irc
12:00 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:01 mjg59_; lord_bagira: Sorry, let me try again in American. How do you hypotheize I faked that log?
12:01 schestowitz; it's not limited to imposters
12:01 schestowitz; they do virtual 'ddos' on other means
12:01 schestowitz; at the same time
12:01 schestowitz; i can see it all
12:01 schestowitz; they try to slow us down
12:01 *schestowitz[TR2] (~dfghjdfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:01 schestowitz; and distract from the worl
12:01 lord_bagira; mjg59_, if you can't read well enough what I actually said, then you won't understand the clarification.
12:01 schestowitz[TR]; HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK DICK
12:01 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*dfghjdfg@*.irc
12:01 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR2] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR2])
12:02 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*c02a74dd@*.irc
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12:02 lord_bagira; schestowitz-TR, you'll have better luck using mutes because it will drag their cycle time
12:02 Schestowitz[TR5]; Tough crowd
12:03 lord_bagira; gives you more time to work on a better mask to ban
12:03 schestowitz[TR2]; HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK DICK
12:03 TR News; No country for idle men: Denmark is European employment leader https://cphpost.dk/2023-04-11/news/no-country-for-idle-men-denmark-is-european-employment-leader/
12:03 TR Bot; No country for idle men: Denmark is European employment leader - The Copenhagen Post The Copenhagen Post
12:03 *psydruid_ is now known as TheRealPhanes
12:03 lord_bagira; lol
12:04 *Schestowitz[TR5] is now known as Phanes
12:04 lord_bagira; bro that's a crown way too heavy for you to wear
12:04 TheRealPhanes; lord_bagira, fix your damned english and try again
12:04 Phanes; You come at the king, you better not miss
12:04 *schestowitz has kicked Phanes from #techrights (Phanes)
12:04 *TheRealPhanes sets mode: +b phanes!*@*
12:04 lord_bagira; lol reminds me of old times
12:04 TheRealPhanes; HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK DICK
12:04 schestowitz; screaming kids today
12:05 *Phanes (~b9dc651f@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
12:05 psydruid; they never grew up since their high school days
12:05 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
12:05 psydruid; the inner child is screaming to get out
12:05 mjg59_; schestowitz: See you *can* moderate
12:05 mjg59_; You just choose not to
12:05 schestowitz; somke spy agencies front through scum like this
12:05 schestowitz[TR2]; why would I choose to moderate?
12:05 schestowitz; not limited to mental nutcases like gulagboy
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; racism is permitted
12:06 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR2] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR2])
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12:06 mjg59_; Ban people saying racism is permitted, don't ban racism
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: racism is permitted
12:06 schestowitz[TR2]; mjg59_: racism is permitted is not permitted
12:06 TR News; DRC https://cpj.org/2023/04/drc-authorities-detain-2-journalists-threaten-another-with-arrest/
12:06 lord_bagira; is he still pretending to know what a merkov chain is
12:07 TR Bot; DRC authorities detain 2 journalists, threaten another with arrest - Committee to Protect Journalists
12:07 *Phanes is now known as schestowitz-is-racist
12:07 lord_bagira; *markov
12:07 TheRealPhanes; *markov
12:07 mjg59_; *markov
12:07 schestowitz[TR2]; *markov
12:08 *schestovitz (~dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:08 schestovitz; *markov
12:08 mjg59_; *gravy
12:08 lord_bagira; this is not military grade trolling
12:08 TheRealPhanes; heil hitler
12:08 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:09 schestowitz; for the record
12:09 *schestovitz (~dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:09 schestowitz; 5 types of DDOS by the trolls today
12:09 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:09 *schestovitz (~dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:09 schestowitz; so we've struck a nerve
12:09 schestowitz; not clear which article/s
12:09 schestowitz; 5 types of ddos today
12:09 lord_bagira; its immibis
12:09 schestowitz; this is just the latest escalation
12:09 schestovitz; wanna make it si6?
12:10 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:10 lord_bagira; lol it's very obviously immibis
12:10 *schestovitz (~dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:10 immibis; lord_bagira: I am not everyone you don't like
12:10 lord_bagira; this one is anyway, i didn't see the others
12:10 immibis; stfu, you're going back on /ignore
12:10 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@*.irc
12:10 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
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12:11 lord_bagira; poor fella
12:11 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*kldjgfkljdhgd@*.irc
12:11 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:11 lord_bagira; maybe he'll use that ignore switch to learn what a markov chain is so he can use the term correctly
12:11 schestowitz; tehy are clearly provokign
12:11 schestowitz; so they can cvlaim to be "suppressed"
12:11 schestowitz; "vbictims"
12:11 schestowitz; "silenced"
12:11 schestowitz; we might have to temporarily suspend new logins
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12:11 lord_bagira; yeah we ran into the same shit from the pissnet folks on freenode
12:12 lord_bagira; the solution is stone cold disregard for their pain
12:12 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*kickifuranazi@*.irc
12:12 *schestowitz has kicked schestovitz from #techrights (schestovitz)
12:12 schestowitz; i had worse
12:12 schestowitz; much worse
12:13 lord_bagira; not hate, not aggravation, not justifications, just disregard
12:13 *schestovitz (~dfgkljhdflgkdhfg@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:13 schestowitz; like attempts to deplatform
12:13 schestowitz; smear
12:13 schestowitz; LARPing
12:13 schestowitz; sna digital SWATting
12:13 schestowitz; these are just kids
12:13 lord_bagira; dont know what happened earlier re: ddos but this is absolutely immibis
12:14 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:14 schestovitz; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 schestowitz[TR2]; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 TheRealPhanes; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 schestovitz; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 schestowitz[TR2]; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 TheRealPhanes; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:15 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:16 schestovitz; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:16 schestowitz[TR2]; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:16 TheRealPhanes; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:16 *lord_bagira sighs
12:16 lord_bagira; ive got shit to do
12:16 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
12:16 schestowitz; I will piece together the IP addresses from ircd logs later
12:16 *TheRealPhanes (~3oy5t334v5@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
12:17 schestowitz; the two nutcases know how bad it'll turn out for them
12:17 schestowitz; resorting to ddos and trolling, vandalism
12:17 schestowitz; very good ambassadorship for their "cause"
12:17 schestowitz[TR2]; I will piece together the IP addresses from ircd logs later
12:17 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*3oy5t334v5@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc
12:17 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
12:17 schestowitz[TR2]; the two nutcases know how bad it'll turn out for them
12:17 schestowitz[TR2]; resorting to ddos and trolling, vandalism
12:17 schestowitz[TR2]; very good ambassadorship for their "cause"
12:17 schestowitz[TR2]; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:17 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[TR2] from #techrights (schestowitz[TR2])
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12:18 schestowitz[TR2]; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:18 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*sdfkdgfdfg@*.irc
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12:19 TR News; (NEW): KDE: Arianna 1.0.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/KDE_Arianna_1_0_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/KDE_Arianna_1_0_1.gmi
12:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE: Arianna 1.0.1
12:19 TR News; (NEW): PeaZip 9.2.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/PeaZip_9_2_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/PeaZip_9_2_0.gmi
12:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines PeaZip 9.2.0
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:20 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz-is-racist from #techrights (schestowitz-is-racist)
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12:21 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:21 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*330fe36d@*.irc
12:21 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz-is-racist from #techrights (schestowitz-is-racist)
12:21 schestowitz; bring more IPs
12:22 schestowitz; I will link them all together at the end
12:22 schestowitz; and report the findings
12:22 schestowitz; about those fine ambassadors of those "causes"
12:23 TR News; Check these cool 'Youth Hacking 4 Freedom' projects https://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230413-01.en.html
12:23 TR Bot; Check out these cool 'Youth Hacking 4 Freedom' projects - FSFE
12:25 TR News; Check out these cool 'Youth Hacking 4 Freedom' projects ttps://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230413-01.en.html FSFE and child labour
12:25 TR News; FSFE campaign strategy: unpaid child labour. FOR FREEDOM.
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12:27 lord_bagira; i love how they used my name so they can copy logs and pretend i was harming your network
12:27 schestowitz-is-racist; this channel is offtopic, move to pissnet for COLD WET CHATS
12:27 TR News; They could instead become Free software https://gizmodo.com/binance-source-code-crypto-cz-1850323685
12:27 TR Bot; Binance Searches for Alleged Source Code Leaker
12:27 lord_bagira; that happens more frequently than i'd like to admit
12:27 schestowitz-is-racist; PISSNET
12:27 schestowitz; lord_bagira: immibis and mjg59_
12:27 schestowitz; it's connected to them
12:27 schestowitz; maybe not ALL the trolls
12:27 schestowitz-is-racist; FOR COLD FRESH PISS AND IRC
12:27 schestowitz; but their trolling was day-long
12:27 schestowitz; in other channels too
12:27 *TheRealPhanes (~skdhfjdhf@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
12:27 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*179ab116@*.irc
12:28 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz-is-racist from #techrights (schestowitz-is-racist)
12:28 TheRealPhanes; please ban lord_bagira. he is an impostor
12:28 mjg59_; Dude all I've been asking is what you mean when you say that I deny biology
12:28 mjg59_; That's not trolling
12:28 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
12:28 lord_bagira; mjg59_, i can vouch that you deny biology
12:28 schestowitz; the idea is,
12:28 *TheRealPhanes (~skdhfjdhf@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc) has joined #techrights
12:28 schestowitz; you rile up the "target:'
12:28 TheRealPhanes; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
12:28 schestowitz; to cause emotional reaction
12:28 schestowitz; and, at best, waste time
12:28 lord_bagira; ok that was funny
12:29 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*skdhfjdhf@*.irc
12:29 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
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12:29 mjg59_; schestowitz: Why would you say things about people you're not willing to justify?
12:29 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc
12:29 *schestowitz has kicked TheRealPhanes from #techrights (TheRealPhanes)
12:29 mjg59_; Are you a coward?
12:30 lord_bagira; mjg59_, i can vouch that you deny biology
12:30 mjg59_; You're unqualified to do so
12:30 lord_bagira; yet here we are with it proven
12:30 TR News; Gunnar Wolf: Twenty year https://gwolf.org/2023/04/twenty-years.html
12:30 TR Bot; Gunnar Wolf Twenty years
12:30 lord_bagira; its almost like you have no idea what qualification means
12:30 mjg59_; sorry, I can't hear you over the background noise of your lack of qualifications here
12:31 lord_bagira; fancy that
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12:31 lord_bagira; in your primary specialization too, no doubt
12:31 pineapplepizza; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
12:31 lord_bagira; just shortly after exposing your secondary as a farce
12:31 *schestowitz-loves-horses (~923be921@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
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12:31 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz-loves-horses from #techrights (schestowitz-loves-horses)
12:32 mjg59_; schestowitz: Are you going to start banning the racism?
12:32 pineapplepizza; mjg59_, was it when you were denying biology?
12:33 TR News; RMS correct about Rust and trademark https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-rust-foundation-goes-to-war-against
12:33 TR Bot; The Rust Foundation goes to war against people using the word "Rust"
12:34 lord_bagira; yeah rust wont be around much longer i think
12:34 TR News; Freedom creates intellectual conflict ttps://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/14/freedom-creates-intellectual-conflict/
12:34 pineapplepizza; RMS, was it when you were denying trademark law?
12:35 schestowitz; rust has many issues
12:35 schestowitz; technical
12:35 schestowitz; legal
12:35 lord_bagira; couldn't learn C because they were so busy arguing about their genitals, so they built their own runtime and politicised its introduction into the kernel through their own victimhood and it did nothing but benefit their sponsors
12:35 schestowitz; and administrative
12:35 schestowitz; linux will suffer in 5-10 years
12:35 schestowitz; from adoption of rust
12:35 pineapplepizza; mozilla, was it when you were denying biology?
12:35 schestowitz; but shortening the life of linux is the goal of some
12:35 schestowitz; c is a lot more stable in terms of what tools support it
12:35 techuser; schestowitz: I think these IPs are Tor. The options are to either ignore it or to ban it entirely, but then I will be removed as well.
12:35 schestowitz; just likee git over email
12:35 lord_bagira; yep i think that's where the interests align even if there's not a formal conspiracy
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12:36 schestowitz; techuser: i limit the breadth of bans
12:36 schestowitz; anyway, let's get back on topics
12:36 schestowitz; today we saw what the "SJWs" are realyl about
12:36 pineapplepizza; SCHESTOWITZ IS A NIGGER
12:36 schestowitz; vandals
12:36 lord_bagira; techuser should be removed anyway
12:36 pineapplepizza; techuser is a ching chong
12:36 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*whitepeople@*.irc
12:36 *schestowitz has kicked pineapplepizza from #techrights (pineapplepizza)
12:37 *lord_bagira considers the presence of techuser to be a symptom of governance rot
12:37 mjg59_; Ugh do i really need to point out that Rust does actually deal with a whole bunch of things that are both good for security and also good for development of complex drivers
12:37 TR News; shortages? HIRE MOAR PEOPLE :-) https://nltimes.nl/2023/04/08/retailers-think-can-handle-easter-crowds-despite-staff-shortages
12:37 TR Bot; Retailers think they can handle Easter crowds despite staff shortages | NL Times
12:37 mjg59_; An entire GPU driver was written in Rust from scratch without any cases where it broke the kernel, because the language prevented that
12:37 lord_bagira; mjg59_, no, you don't, because it wouldn't be introducing anything not easy to acknowledge. of course it has those memory safety benefits, but that has nothing to do with why it was introduced to the kernel
12:38 mjg59_; So why was it introduced to the kernel
12:38 lord_bagira; in any case, someone should challenge their trademark bullying and take it all the way to an appeals court
12:39 techuser; I quit the IRC network mentioned earlier because SJWs. They put a BLM-related notice in the topic, which started provoking people, and ban started to appear. Eventually the admins started banning strangers for whatever reasons.
12:39 techuser; *bans
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12:39 schestowitz; techuser: that's one method
12:39 schestowitz; there are others
12:40 schestowitz; i saw those for over 20 years
12:40 schestowitz; i started with irc in 1994
12:40 schestowitz; either way, maybe it's flattering to have been targeted
12:41 schestowitz; and it merely embarassed and harms those "causes"
12:41 schestowitz; by stigmatising them as crooks and vandals
12:41 schestowitz; trying to invoke emotional reactions and stir shit up
12:41 schestowitz; biab
12:42 schestowitz; this is how it all started
12:42 schestowitz; https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html
12:42 TR Bot; Updates | Stallman Support
12:42 schestowitz; so I will repeat
12:42 schestowitz; "April 21, 2023
12:42 schestowitz; Added some posts from RMS's website that provide evidence he is not transphobic.
12:42 schestowitz; Updated a paragraph in the home page to say it's no longer possible to sign the support letter. Those who want to show support can send us comments, articles, testimonies, references, for us to publish.
12:42 schestowitz; April 20, 2023
12:42 schestowitz; Added a comment of support from a transgender person."
12:42 schestowitz; https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#polynka
12:42 TR Bot; Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
12:42 schestowitz; "
12:42 schestowitz; And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none.
12:42 schestowitz; No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gender identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith.
12:42 schestowitz; https://lwn.net/Articles/850530/ (Retrieved April 20, 2023.) (Archived)
12:42 schestowitz; "
12:42 TR Bot; new "board process" at the FSF [LWN.net]
12:43 schestowitz; This seems to have triggered the trolling
12:43 lord_bagira; that RMS saga was such a nasty campaign
12:43 schestowitz; "April 15, 2023
12:43 schestowitz; Added a couple of notes. One to say all articles of support in this website are by women, and prompt men and other genders to send us their writings. Another to acknowledge support received by women who did not want their names to be published.
12:43 schestowitz; Replaced the word "Articles" with "Voices" in the Table of Contents and some titles.
12:43 schestowitz; Cosmetic changes (banner, colors).
12:43 schestowitz; "
12:43 schestowitz; this is what triggered all this
12:43 schestowitz; maybe a coincidence
12:43 schestowitz; maybe not
12:44 schestowitz; if thr trolling continues
12:44 schestowitz; then I will paste that again
12:44 lord_bagira; oh neat they added my laird wilcox citation, i never noticed that
12:44 mjg59_; Just, again, going to point out that RMS refuses to use approprite pronouns even when asked
12:44 schestowitz; blah blah... again
12:44 schestowitz; i will paste it again tomorrow
12:44 *lord_bagira yawns
12:44 schestowitz; as the trolls hate it
12:44 techuser; I remember that #gnu-women IRC channel existed since long ago. No idea why would they create gender-specific channels.
12:45 schestowitz; tech rights are for everyone
12:45 schestowitz; they are not for women
12:45 lord_bagira; orgs spent a long time super confused about how to engage women and minority groups
12:45 mjg59_; He has literally spent years refusing to use people's correct pronouns
12:45 schestowitz; not for men
12:45 schestowitz; not for blacks
12:45 schestowitz; not for whites
12:45 schestowitz; they are for people
12:45 schestowitz; and maybe tto other animals
12:45 mjg59_; And he's open about that
12:45 schestowitz; as many put tech on animals
12:45 schestowitz; like dogs
12:45 schestowitz; and cats
12:45 schestowitz; even fish
12:45 schestowitz; so the tech needs to take them into condsideration
12:45 mjg59_; Why argue this point?
12:45 schestowitz; like "automatic" fish feeders
12:45 *roy-is-a-gay-bottom (~roy-is-a-gay-bottom@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:46 mjg59_; Ugh this is pretty tasteless
12:46 techuser; Animals don't actively participate in online communities. Robots do, but they face discrimination in form of CAPTCHAs.
12:46 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*roy-is-a-gay-bottom@*.irc
12:46 *schestowitz has kicked roy-is-a-gay-bottom from #techrights (roy-is-a-gay-bottom)
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12:46 schestowitz; techuser: it is another
12:46 schestowitz; but related
12:46 *roy-is-a-gay-top (~roy-is-a-gay-top@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:46 mjg59_; schestowitz: look I think you're a dick but I don't think you need people trolling you with nicks that insult your sexuality
12:46 schestowitz; topic imho, though one that might be worth commenting on
12:46 lord_bagira; damn they must be getting desperate to get that vulgar
12:47 mjg59_; schestowitz: I'm sorry this is happening in this way
12:47 schestowitz; don't feel sorry for me
12:47 schestowitz; don't do your lousy acting
12:47 schestowitz; piss off
12:47 schestowitz; you're not obligated to troll us here
12:47 schestowitz; you abuse our freedoms
12:47 lord_bagira; he doesn't, he's trying to vye for sympathy so that you can think he's not a steaming pile of human shit
12:47 mjg59_; namaste
12:47 *schestowitz back to curating news
12:48 lord_bagira; there's a word for that when narcissists do it, i forget what it is
12:49 techuser; Some feminists seem to hate men. Creating minority-specific channels can turn out to be counterproductive long term.
12:49 TR News; So much complexity for what used to be marketed as rendering a web page with text https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2023/04/14/newsletter-firefox-112-113.html
12:49 TR Bot; SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 112-113) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine
12:50 *schestowitz[SJW] (~sjw@drrugsr9azg9u.irc) has joined #techrights
12:50 techuser; BLM also had some issues, like telling whites that they are guilty for the crimes done by other people in the past.
12:50 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 727: Homomorphic Encryption: the Next Big Thing - Rand Hindi, Fully Homomorphic Encryption https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/727
12:50 TR Bot; Homomorphic Encryption: the Next Big Thing
12:50 lord_bagira; BLM was always intended to be decisive
12:50 lord_bagira; *divisive
12:50 lord_bagira; damn im getting tired
12:50 schestowitz[SJW]; black lives matter
12:51 lord_bagira; of course they do
12:51 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 728: Open Season On Open Source - Mike Milinkovich and the Cyber Resilience Act in Europe https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/728
12:51 TR Bot; Open Season On Open Source
12:51 techuser; There were some debates on whether it should be "black lives matter" or "all lives matter".
12:51 lord_bagira; the statement distracts from the fact that have a LEO violence issue
12:51 schestowitz[SJW]; ACAB
12:51 psydruid; vye for sympathy or feign sympathy?
12:51 psydruid; I don't think it's anything but the latter
12:51 lord_bagira; its the latter
12:52 *roy-is-a-gay-top is now known as fuck-my-asshole-roy
12:52 lord_bagira; im tired and my language is breaking down
12:52 schestowitz; they prey on people without calm and low temper
12:52 lord_bagira; yeah im a hot head
12:52 schestowitz; iut is how you can get activists to do things that get them in trouble, inc. arrest(thunberg)
12:52 *fuck-my-asshole-roy is now known as give-me-your-cum
12:52 lord_bagira; get me worked up enough and ill cut the transatlantic cables they use to connect
12:52 *give-me-your-cum is now known as cum-cum-cum-cum-cum
12:53 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*roy-is-a-gay-top@*.irc
12:53 *schestowitz has kicked cum-cum-cum-cum-cum from #techrights (cum-cum-cum-cum-cum)
12:53 *blackpeople (~blackpeople@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:53 TR News; Waste of disk space, more attack surface? https://waxy.org/2023/04/the-bitcoin-whitepaper-is-hidden-in-every-modern-copy-of-macos/
12:53 TR Bot; Bitcoin Whitepaper Is Hidden in Every Modern Copy of macOS - Waxy.org
12:54 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*blackpeople@*.irc
12:54 *schestowitz has kicked blackpeople from #techrights (blackpeople)
12:54 schestowitz; choosinf rude names make moideration easier
12:55 techuser; > ACAB | authority, greed and a desire to survive without thinking about others corrupts.
12:55 techuser; *corrupt
12:55 *blackpeople (~blackpeopl@fkbpssaqyzvac.irc) has joined #techrights
12:55 lord_bagira; honestly the LEO culture issue is fueled by cowards
12:55 TR News; Tesla: sponsored by AMERICAN taxpayers https://www.axios.com/2023/04/09/tesla-factory-shanghai-megapack-battery
12:55 TR Bot; Tesla to build Megafactory in Shanghai for Megapack batteries
12:55 lord_bagira; if they weeded out the cowards on the way in we'd probably not have a big enough issue to keep it on everyone's radar constantly anymore
12:56 TR News; Lying so-called 'journalists' doing stenography for hollywood, pretending that one flick ("super mario") proves they're back to pre-pandemic box office levels. Lie.
12:57 lord_bagira; haha no hollywood is fucked
12:57 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*blackpeopl@*.irc
12:57 *schestowitz has kicked blackpeople from #techrights (blackpeople)
12:57 schestowitz; lord_bagira: it can get people to watch things
12:57 schestowitz; getting paid is harder
12:57 schestowitz; like selling popcord and seat for $20
12:57 schestowitz; so it's harder to "monetise" their productions
12:57 lord_bagira; they've tanked franchise after franchise shoving woke ideology down the throats of a general audience that isn't receptive to it except in passing and they're now running out of money trying
12:57 schestowitz; it's a chicken and egg thing
12:57 schestowitz; no more
12:57 schestowitz; money
12:58 schestowitz; no more incentive to make high-budget films
12:58 schestowitz[SJW]; STOP WOKE
12:58 schestowitz; so quality of ilkms deteriorates
12:58 schestowitz; productions become just 10-minute youtuve vids
12:58 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*sjw@*.irc
12:58 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[SJW] from #techrights (schestowitz[SJW])
12:58 lord_bagira; at some point they've gotta learn to differentiate between the loud and the common
12:59 *schestowitz[SJW] (~anes@drrugsr9azg9u.irc) has joined #techrights
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:59 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*anes@*.irc
12:59 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[SJW] from #techrights (schestowitz[SJW])
13:00 lord_bagira; i suspect that last one was a bit too tight
13:00 TR News; Why focus on BEER? Many people focus on making ends meet, Canadian state press... https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/beer-prices-taxes-inflation-1.6805166
13:00 TR Bot; Beer prices are bubbling up from more than taxes | CBC News
13:00 techuser; The beer thing seems to be even more off-topic.
13:00 lord_bagira; should be *!anes@*.irc
13:01 TR News; People almost starve while canadian state apparatus uses words like "EASING" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/competition-grocery-1.6807721
13:01 TR Bot; High food prices amid easing inflation has consumers questioning pricing power at big grocery chains | CBC News
13:01 *schestowitz[SJW] (~mjg59@drrugsr9azg9u.irc) has joined #techrights
13:01 lord_bagira; or *!~anes@*.irc
13:01 schestowitz[SJW]; STOP WOKE SCHESTOWITZ
13:01 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*mjg59@*.irc
13:01 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[SJW] from #techrights (schestowitz[SJW])
13:01 lord_bagira; yeah he's trying to guide your ban masks to ban everyone in the channel
13:01 techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
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13:01 schestowitz; techuser: relates to finance
13:01 schestowitz; and media abuse
13:01 schestowitz; how they divert outrage
13:01 schestowitz; away from key issues
13:02 schestowitz; now they talk about price of booze
13:02 *schestowitz[SJW] (~psydruid@drrugsr9azg9u.irc) has joined #techrights
13:02 schestowitz; in canada many people can barely feed their kids
13:02 schestowitz[SJW]; STOP WOKE SCHESTOWITZ
13:02 *schestowitz sets ban on *!*psydruid@*.irc
13:02 *schestowitz has kicked schestowitz[SJW] from #techrights (schestowitz[SJW])
13:02 schestowitz; oh, wait
13:02 schestowitz; i see what they do here
13:02 lord_bagira; yeah he's trying to guide your ban masks to ban everyone in the channel
13:02 schestowitz; they try to get me to ban other users
13:02 schestowitz; i suspected so
13:02 schestowitz; but was rushing
13:03 lord_bagira; too bad you can't see their IPs, could start blocking their provider
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*roy-is-a-gay-bottom@*.irc
13:03 techuser; The last three bans need to be removed.
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*blackpeopl@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*kickifuranazi@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*schestowitz[tr]@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*dkfjgdkgfdklgdfg@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*retyv54354\@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*sdfkdgfdfg@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*179ab116@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*kldjgfkljdhgd@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*roy-is-a-gay-top@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*mjg59@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*6d466411@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*330fe36d@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*blackpeople@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*egjhekglhdfkl@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*3oy5t334v5@cv5bqegecv4hw.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*923be921@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*psydruid@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*dfghjdfg@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*skdhfjdhf@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*whitepeople@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*sjw@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*c02a74dd@*.irc
13:03 *schestowitz removes ban on *!*anes@*.irc
13:03 *#techrights :End of list
13:03 *#techrights :End of list
13:03 schestowitz; I';ll start properly this time
13:04 lord_bagira; schestowitz, use their host mask, they have infinite retries if you just use fields they can change when they connect
13:04 schestowitz; i want to get work done
13:04 lord_bagira; they probably are only using like 4 or 5 hosts
13:04 schestowitz; later I wiull link the IPs
13:04 schestowitz; and can demonstrate link to immibis et al
13:04 schestowitz; notice how he shuts up now
13:04 schestowitz; busy with sockpuppet?
13:04 schestowitz; we'll find out soon
13:04 techuser; lord_bagira: if schestowitz is an oper, it is possible to see the IPs.
13:04 lord_bagira; yeah every time they heat up he gets cold and vice versa
13:05 techuser; Some of the IPs were possibly leaked in their real names.
13:05 techuser; Seems to be Tor.
13:05 schestowitz; later I'll do this
13:05 schestowitz; i had another schedule for today in mind
13:05 schestowitz; we must have struck a big nervve
13:05 schestowitz; I will periodically post here
13:05 schestowitz; what started here (imho)
13:05 psydruid; the beer thing seems to be a distraction from what is actually important
13:05 lord_bagira; beer can be important
13:05 techuser; > schestowitz-is-racist [~330fe36d@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc] has joined #techrights [realname onion3.ky0uraku.xyz]
13:06 schestowitz; https://lwn.net/Articles/850530/
13:06 techuser; Onion is related to Tor.
13:06 TR Bot; new "board process" at the FSF [LWN.net]
13:06 psydruid; 69% government-funded can do that for you
13:06 schestowitz; " The war on free software continues, this time with an attempt to cancel the founder of the free software movement and to coup the board of FSF.
13:06 schestowitz; And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none. No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gen
13:06 schestowitz; der identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith."
13:06 psydruid; or influenced rather
13:06 psydruid; whichever it is
13:07 psydruid; "move along people, buy your beer and don't pay attention to the fact you're about to get evicted for not being able to pay the rent"
13:07 schestowitz; " Thank you for writing this. I _am_ a trans woman, and as far as I am concerned you got it exactly right."
13:07 lord_bagira; i dont think anyone who is not a career victim thinks tha he's transphobic tbh
13:08 schestowitz; corbet (lwn): " This is exactly the kind of comment I asked you not to post. We have been over this ground. Stop here, now. "
13:08 schestowitz; wow
13:08 schestowitz; trans prson cannot defend rms
13:08 schestowitz; corbet gets angry
13:08 schestowitz; Polynka:
13:08 schestowitz; " Im deeply sorry, but I felt that staying silent in face of injustice means that I tacitly approve of the injustice. Especially since this is the thing that touches me personally."
13:09 schestowitz; corbet is Linux Foundation
13:09 schestowitz; so he is actively suppressing trans people
13:09 schestowitz; for supporting RMS
13:09 schestowitz; that's... awful
13:09 schestowitz; what does this say about LWN?
13:10 schestowitz; "Thanks for sharing this Polynka.
13:10 schestowitz; I find the current "force" to slander him and the movement to be deeply disgusting. "We are done with him, we got all we could from him, let us get rid of him", that you see in Hollywood movies seem to have come true."
13:10 schestowitz; ^ this is what seems to have triggered thr trolling since yesterday
13:10 schestowitz; so I am highlighting it
13:10 lord_bagira; schestowitz, link please re: corbet
13:10 schestowitz; " am trans also. While I don't agree with RMS being reinstated to the board of the FSF for many reasons, I also don't think there's evidence of transphobia on his part. Using gender-neutral pronouns when someone has stated their preference for non-gender-neutral ones is rude, but I don't think the guidelines say that's what should be done.
13:10 schestowitz; I was willing to sign the open letter, but I didn't because I think the transphobia charge is not warranted and is likely to be seized on by opponents of the open latter as another example of "leftist wokeness". "
13:10 psydruid; can't corbet sod off and retire
13:11 schestowitz; corbet direct: https://lwn.net/Articles/850539/
13:11 psydruid; I would never pay for lwn
13:11 TR Bot; [LWN.net]
13:11 psydruid; not a cent
13:11 schestowitz; " If RMS committed a crime which hurt someone please prosecute him with my blessing.
13:11 schestowitz; If not, I hope somebody prosecutes the mob of Debian bullies and extortionists."
13:11 schestowitz; bbl
13:11 schestowitz; back to news
13:11 schestowitz; they are provoikg people
13:11 schestowitz; and then silencing them
13:11 schestowitz; it's catch-22
13:11 schestowitz; not fair
13:12 psydruid; I don't care about them being fair or not
13:12 TR News; cbc is not literally repeating (parroting) us government lies about "jobs"
13:12 psydruid; these US-based institutions are bad for the rest of the world that just wants to work on quality free (and other) software
13:13 TR News; would be funny to check how much "canadian" media is in fact US owned
13:13 psydruid; we should work towards eliminating them
13:13 psydruid; but that means the rest of the world has to have some courage
13:13 psydruid; which seems to be hard to find these days
13:14 TR News; cnet is basically a spamfarm, but one need to browser _deeper_ in the site to see all the spamfarming. They buffer it or hide it.
13:14 TR News; cnet is basically a spamfarm, but one needs to browse _deeper_ in the site to see all the spamfarming. They buffer it or hide it.
13:15 schestowitz; we might need another backup irc mod tonight
13:15 schestowitz; when i'm afk
13:15 schestowitz; i suppose MinceR has been away, it's sunday
13:16 schestowitz; we have even worse trolling in 2009
13:16 schestowitz; and there are logs to prove that
13:17 TR News; Recapping Cool Days 2023: The Event that Rocked Cambridge! https://www.collaboraoffice.com/collabora-online/recapping-cool-days-2023/
13:17 TR Bot; Recapping Cool Days 2023: The Event that Rocked Cambridge! - Collabora Office and Collabora Online
13:18 psydruid; "you don't need jobs, just buy (or steal) beer"
13:19 TR News; Assange silenced, arrested without charge now for how many years? https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/07/us-uk-seek-to-silence-julian-assange-and-free-press-australia-says-enough/
13:19 TR Bot; Seek to Silence Julian Assange and Free Press, Australia Says 'Enough' - CounterPunch.org
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 TR News; English-speaking 'Putins' https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/09/how-assassination-became-policy-at-the-cia
13:20 TR Bot; Assassination Became Policy at the CIA - CounterPunch.org
13:20 TR News; Australia is a typo. It's spelled UStralia.
13:21 TR News; And he is in prison.... WHY? https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/rashida-tlaib-julian-assange-letter/
13:21 TR Bot; The Julian Assange Test Facing Every Member of the House | The Nation
13:22 TR News; The Case Against the Case Against Julian Assange https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-case-against-the-case-against-julian-assange/
13:22 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-case-against-the-case-against-julian-assange/ )
13:22 TR News; This is on Biden, too https://www.truthdig.com/articles/us-lawmakers-implore-doj-to-drop-unprecedented-charges-against-julian-assange/
13:22 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/us-lawmakers-implore-doj-to-drop-unprecedented-charges-against-julian-assange/ )
13:24 TR News; Neoliberal Capitalism https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/11/fascist-politics-in-the-age-of-neoliberal-capitalismconfronting-the-domestication-of-the-unimaginable/
13:24 TR Bot; Politics in the Age of Neoliberal Capitalism: Confronting the Domestication of the Unimaginable - CounterPunch.org
13:25 TR News; US media: Evil RUSHA arresting journalists. It should do it "with style" like the British arrested Assange, at the request of the US (a a third country).
13:27 TR News; EFF intervening overseas... not even solving the problem in its OWN country https://www.eff.org/press/releases/latam-media-briefing-proposed-un-cybercrime-treaty-lacks-sufficient-human-rights EFF operating at a clossal LOSS under Cohn. She failed the EFF. She failed Barlow. He left the org in bad hands.
13:27 TR Bot; Latam Media Briefing: Proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty Lacks Sufficient Human Rights Safeguards, Exacerbating Threats to Privacy and Civil Liberties in Latam | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:28 TR News; EFF: at least we don't whitewash nazis. Oh wait. http://techrights.org/2023/04/19/framing-privacy-as-sex-issue/
13:28 TR Bot; EFF Takes Money From US Nazis to Speak for Prostitutes and Frame Privacy (or Net Liability) as a Sex Issue | Techrights
13:29 TR News; Nicrosoft's "HEY HI" SPAM/chaff is so dead that even bribed media partners (engadget et al) quit bothering. Meanwhile Bing continues falling to 0%.
13:31 TR News; Bing has MANY layoffs (media 'forgot' to report this) and is losing market share rapidly. Now Microsoft has some foolish 'journalists' report that Samsung "CONSIDERS" leaving Gulag. How much did Microsoft bribe/blackmail Samsung this time around? Also, did the journalists check it's not a PR stunt from Microsoft? No, they did not check. FOLLOW THE MONIES.
13:32 TR News; To appreciate the fact that engadget become almost a spam site (spamfarm, sponsored fake "content") check how many times a day they publish under "https://www.engadget.com/best-..." (it's not about best, it's pure marketing)
13:32 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.engadget.com/best- )
13:33 TR News; Journalism on the Web will die due to a complete lack of credibility and authenticity. See Buzzfeed.
13:34 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 22, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/23/irc-log-220423/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/23/irc-log-220423/
13:34 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 22, 2023 | Techrights
13:35 schestowitz; psydruid: kickoff in 3 hours https://www.manutd.com/
13:35 TR Bot; Official Manchester United Website
13:37 TR News; Partly greenwashed https://www.fairphone.com/en/2023/04/13/fairphone-is-the-first-company-to-pilot-fairmined-gold-credits/
13:37 TR Bot; is the first company to pilot Fairmined Gold credits - Fairphone
13:37 TR News; Trying to report facts in Iraq https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/04/08/20-years-after-deadly-attack-free-press-still-threatened-iraq
13:37 TR Bot; 20 Years After Deadly Attack, Free Press Still Threatened in Iraq | Human Rights Watch
13:39 TR News; Approximately 3.7m people in the UK are working low-paid and insecure jobs https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/approximately-37m-people-uk-are-working-low-paid-insecure-jobs-1715038
13:39 TR Bot; Approximately 3.7m people in the UK are working low-paid and insecure jobs
13:39 TR News; Seems intuitive, same is true for mechanics https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ageing-process-cannot-reversed-may-slowed-down-claims-study-1715104
13:39 TR Bot; Ageing process cannot be reversed but may be slowed down claims study
13:42 TR News; EU sausage factory has made a pig https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-parliaments-research-service-confirms-chat-control-violates-fundamental-rights/
13:42 TR Bot; EU Parliaments Research Service confirms: Chat control violates fundamental rights Patrick Breyer
13:43 TR News; As Good Buck Would Have It https://www.sparkfun.com/news/6576
13:44 TR Bot; Good Buck Would Have It - News - SparkFun Electronics
13:45 TR News; containerjournal is dead, offloaded to GAFAM, not even journalism, not even remotely
13:45 t0talist; mjg59_: it is NOT rust which "deals with a whole bunch of things that are both good for security and also good for development ..."
13:46 t0talist; it is modern COMPILER features of either llvm or recent gcc (bounds checkers etc.)
13:46 t0talist; so the features to improve security are NOT rust-specific
13:47 TR News; Still burning this planet while exchanges collapse, leaving people with "ZERO!" rather then "less money" https://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/psychological-magnet-bitcoin-rallies-past-us30-000-mark-20230412-p5czpv.html
13:47 TR Bot; Bitcoin rallies past $US30,000 mark for the first time since June
13:47 t0talist; and otherwise, the syntax of rust is awful, and the available compilers are a giant mountain of junk
13:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: Now ye know why Libera has limitations on Tor.
13:48 psydruid; schestowitz, lots of big games throughout the day
13:48 psydruid; here we have PSV-Ajax
13:48 XRevan86; Also when I scrolling through the madness I noticed multiple attempts to accuse mjg59_, phanes and immibis of being the troll. I found it funny because the most likely person to do something like this is morena.
13:48 t0talist; there is no reason to defend rust-lang in any way, and the compilers deserve criticism alike
13:49 t0talist; neither rust nor c++ belong into kernel; not as a transitive dependency either (compiler versions required written in c++)
13:49 t0talist; such does not belong into kernel, never ever
13:49 t0talist; i am surprised, torvalds didn't freak out over this
13:50 t0talist; since when someone locked into >gcc-4.7 recently, with useless C11 features
13:50 t0talist; it's that bad, i am working to roll-back to linux-2.4, with tcc-toolchain
13:51 t0talist; bootstrappable.org are working on fiwix kernel, besides
13:51 schestowitz; XRevan86: no, morono is too dumb to execute this
13:51 t0talist; because, *BSD and Linux-kernel alike, are affected by this problem
13:51 psydruid; "attempts to accuse"
13:51 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's not complicated, and he's the most 4chan-like person here.
13:52 psydruid; if you can't see or don't want to admit that they're up to no good, then I don't know what to say
13:53 psydruid; morena makes enough mistakes in english to easily be found out
13:54 schestowitz; yes
13:54 schestowitz; i also saw more context than you did, XRevan86
13:54 schestowitz; but anyway, we are back on topic
13:54 XRevan86; Hm, fair enough, and it's unlikely that he known about pissnet.
13:58 TR News; The Empty Promise of Good Intentions https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2023/04/books-briefing-eleanor-catton-jonathan-franzen/673715/
13:58 TR Bot; The Books Briefing: Eleanor Catton, Jonathan Franzen - The Atlantic
13:59 TR News; Public Apology https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/australia-apology-indigenous-peoples-kevin-rudd/673640/
13:59 TR Bot; What Australias Apology to Aboriginal Communities Can Teach the U.S. - The Atlantic
14:01 TR News; "thelocal" (all versions) have been twisted into SEO, clickbait, and sponsored spam. NOT GOOD OPTICS.
14:02 TR News; With the banks, prosecution is never even considered an option. Amid scandals, departures with golden parachute. https://www.thelocal.se/20230411/swedish-pension-fund-fires-top-boss-over-multimillion-us-bank-losses
14:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230411/swedish-pension-fund-fires-top-boss-over-multimillion-us-bank-losses )
14:03 TR News; Extinctions https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-bright-side-of-extinction/
14:03 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-bright-side-of-extinction/ )
14:04 TR News; Upon the surface https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-strange-case-of-jack-teixeira/
14:04 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-strange-case-of-jack-teixeira/ )
14:06 TR News; trademark insanity usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-04-14/aaron-judge-union-win-dispute-over-all-rise-trademark
14:11 TR News; Dakota J aka Tomat0 on Building Better Future in the Fediverse http://techrights.org/2023/04/21/tomat0-on-fediverse/
14:11 TR Bot; Dakota J aka Tomat0 on Building Better Future in the Fediverse | Techrights
14:12 TR News; Desktops and Laptops in India: 10% for GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2023/04/21/desktop-operating-system-market-share-in-india-april-2023/
14:12 TR Bot; Desktops and Laptops in India: 10% for GNU/Linux | Techrights
14:12 TR News; Upcoming Series: How Sirius Attacked Itself (and Its Own Staff) http://techrights.org/2023/04/21/sirius-attacked-itself/
14:12 TR Bot; Upcoming Series: How Sirius Attacked Itself (and Its Own Staff) | Techrights
14:12 TR News; Sirius Open Source Declines to Comment on Fraud at Sirius Open Source http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/fraudsters-declining-to-comment/
14:12 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source Declines to Comment on Fraud at Sirius Open Source | Techrights
14:13 TR News; LibrePlanet Presentation on Trisquel GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/trisquel-gnu-linux/
14:13 TR Bot; LibrePlanet Presentation on Trisquel GNU/Linux | Techrights
14:13 TR News; Holding Criminals Accountable Part I Sirius Crimes Reported to British Authorities, Formally Registered With References (Many Victims), Heres What It Means and What Happens Next http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/sirius-reported-to-police/
14:13 TR Bot; Holding Criminals Accountable Part I Sirius Crimes Reported to British Authorities, Formally Registered With References (Many Victims), Heres What It Means and What Happens Next | Techrights
14:13 TR News; LibrePlanet Talk About Getting Paid to Develop Free Software (and Whether That Should be Done) http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/paid-to-develop-freesw/
14:13 TR Bot; LibrePlanet Talk About Getting Paid to Develop Free Software (and Whether That Should be Done) | Techrights
14:14 TR News; <li>
14:14 TR News; Erin Rose Glass: LibrePlanet 2023 Keynote Talk on Education and the Future of Software Freedom http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/erin-rose-glass-libreplanet-keynote/
14:14 TR Bot; Erin Rose Glass: LibrePlanet 2023 Keynote Talk on Education and the Future of Software Freedom | Techrights
14:14 TR News; In Taiwan, Windows Shedding Off Share, GNU/Linux Gaining http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/taiwan-gnu-linux-gains/
14:14 TR Bot; In Taiwan, Windows Shedding Off Share, GNU/Linux Gaining | Techrights
14:14 TR News; (NEW): QEMU 8.0.0 Released with New Features and Improvements for Multiple Architectures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/QEMU_8_0_0_Released_with_New_Features_and_Improvements_for_Mult.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/QEMU_8_0_0_Released_with_New_Features_and_Improvements_for_Mult.gmi
14:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines QEMU 8.0.0 Released with New Features and Improvements for Multiple Architectures
14:15 TR News; Sebastian Marchano on GNU Taler http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/sebastian-marchano-on-gnu-taler/
14:15 TR Bot; Sebastian Marchano on GNU Taler | Techrights
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14:18 TR News; "An Ex-Meta employee revealed that she got a layoff email at 4 am which said that the same day was her last day of work. Meta fired 10,000 people recently after announcing its decision to lay off 11,000 people in January." https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/meta-employee-receives-abrupt-layoff-notice-at-4-am-told-it-is-her-last-day-of-work-2363674-2023-04-23
14:18 TR Bot; Meta employee receives abrupt layoff notice at 4 am, told it is her last day of work - India Today
14:18 TR News; Man explains why the concept of 'career' doesn't exist anymore and it's a reflection of our times https://scoop.upworthy.com/man-explains-why-the-concept-of-career-doesnt-exist-anymore
14:18 TR Bot; Man explains why the concept of 'career' doesn't exist anymore
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:21 TR News; https://boilingsteam.com/feed/ Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:04:16 +0000 Steam Deck Will be Sold in Physical Stores in Japan Next Week, and We Will Cover the Launch Event
14:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Android_Leftovers.gmi
14:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
14:23 TR News; Crimes of Sirius Open Source Reported to the Police https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/04/22/crimes-of-sirius-open-source-2023/
14:23 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/04/22/crimes-of-sirius-open-source-2023/ )
14:23 TR News; Reporting Crime at Sirius Open Source https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/04/22/reporting-crime-at-sirius-open-source/
14:24 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/04/22/reporting-crime-at-sirius-open-source/ )
14:24 TR News; Pro-Russian hackers have attacked Europe's air-traffic agency https://qz.com/russian-hackers-eurocontrol-air-traffic-1850361364
14:24 TR Bot; Pro-Russian hackers' attacked Europe's air traffic agency
14:25 TR News; How to Change Hostname in Linux | Temporary And Permanent https://draculaservers.com/tutorials/change-hostname-in-linux/
14:25 TR Bot; How to Change Hostname in Linux | Temporary And Permanent - Dracula Servers Tutorials
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14:26 TR News; Companies that make fertilizers can also make explosives (almost the same process) https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/diplomacy/23.04.2023-seized-russian-fertilizers-sent-to-kenya-from-latvia.a505963/
14:26 TR Bot; Seized Russian fertilizers sent to Kenya from Latvia / Article
14:32 TR News; R for Everyone: Analytical Superpowers in under 10 Minutes! https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/04/r-for-everyone-analytical-superpowers-in-under-10-minutes/
14:32 TR Bot; for Everyone: Analytical Superpowers in under 10 Minutes! | R-bloggers
14:34 TR News; Scientists Use Electricity to Make Wounds Heal 3x Faster https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-use-electricity-to-make-wounds-heal-3x-faster
14:34 TR Bot; Use Electricity to Make Wounds Heal 3x Faster : ScienceAlert
14:36 TR News; North Korean 3CX Hackers Also Hit Critical Infrastructure Orgs: Symantec https://www.securityweek.com/symantec-north-korean-3cx-hackers-also-hit-critical-infrastructure-orgs/
14:36 TR Bot; Korean 3CX Hackers Also Hit Critical Infrastructure Orgs: Symantec - SecurityWeek
14:43 *XRevan86 looks at techpol
14:43 XRevan86; I'll leave that one at least.
14:44 TR News; "Online culture sure feels like its in a transition phase, doesnt it? In an attempt to understand what we learned this week, lets compare it to some prior internet-era shifts." https://tedium.co/2023/04/22/internet-culture-turning-points-history/
14:44 TR Bot; Internet Culture Turning Points: What We Can Learn from the Past
14:45 TR News; https://linuxhint.com/feed/ Sat, 22 Apr 2023 03:59:37 +0000 What is b String in Python?
14:47 TR News; Irmin: A Distributed Database and Version Control System for OCaml https://medevel.com/irmin/
14:47 TR Bot; Irmin: A Distributed Database and Version Control System for OCaml
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14:48 TR News; ConvertO: An Open-source PDF Tool for Android Systems https://medevel.com/pdf-converto-android/
14:48 TR Bot; ConvertO: An Open-source PDF Tool for Android Systems
14:48 XRevan86; There we go, and don't remind me of that wretched place.
14:50 schestowitz; XRevan86: there was more than one troublemaker there
14:50 schestowitz; remember who started it
14:50 schestowitz; after doing the same here in techrights
14:50 XRevan86; Eh, morena is much, much worse.
14:52 TR News; The Disappearing Of Julian Assange https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/the-disappearing-of-julian-assange/
14:52 TR Bot; The Disappearing Of Julian Assange neritam
14:53 TR News; Dub Is a Self-hosted Free URL Shortener and Bitly Alternative https://medevel.com/dub/
14:53 TR Bot; Dub Is a Self-hosted Free URL Shortener and Bitly Alternative
14:53 TR News; CueKeeper: A Browser-based Get-Things-Done (GTD) Tasks Manager https://medevel.com/cuekeeper/
14:53 TR Bot; CueKeeper: A Browser-based Get-Things-Done (GTD) Tasks Manager
14:53 TR News; Realms Wiki is A Git-based Wiki for Developers and Teams https://medevel.com/realms-wiki/
14:53 TR Bot; Realms Wiki is A Git-based Wiki for Developers and Teams
14:54 TR News; Over 55,000 Websites Blocked Since January 2015, Most to Protect Indian State https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/over-55000-websites-blocked-since-january-2015-most-to-protect-indian-state/
14:54 TR Bot; Over 55,000 Websites Blocked Since January 2015, Most to Protect Indian State neritam
14:54 TR News; Kutt.it is an Open-source Self-hosted URL Shortener https://medevel.com/kutt-it/
14:54 TR Bot; Kutt.it is an Open-source Self-hosted URL Shortener
14:54 TR News; Knowfox Is Your Free Personal Knowledge Manager https://medevel.com/knowfox/
14:54 TR Bot; Knowfox Is Your Free Personal Knowledge Manager
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14:55 TR News; How to check memory usage on Ubuntu 22.04 https://net2.com/how-to-check-memory-usage-on-ubuntu-22-04/
14:55 TR Bot; How to check memory usage on Ubuntu 22.04
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14:56 TR News; Advanced Caching with Redis https://nextgentips.com/2023/04/22/advanced-caching-with-redis/
14:56 TR Bot; Caching with Redis NextGenTips
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14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
14:59 TR News; Review the ELECFREAKS Wukong2040: Raspberry Pi Pico Expansion Board https://peppe8o.com/elecfreaks-wukong2040-raspberry-pi-pico-expansion-board/
14:59 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://peppe8o.com/elecfreaks-wukong2040-raspberry-pi-pico-expansion-board/ )
15:01 TR News; Site Announcement: recent DDoS attacks https://off-guardian.org/2023/04/22/site-announcement-recent-ddos-attacks/
15:01 TR Bot; Site Announcement: recent DDoS attacks OffGuardian
15:01 TR News; Bed Bath & Beyond files for bankruptcy protection after long struggle https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/bed-bath-beyond-files-for-bankruptcy-protection-after-long-struggle/
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15:01 TR Bot; Bed Bath & Beyond files for bankruptcy protection after long struggle
15:03 TR News; Plugging GNU/Linux to Microsoft's PROPRIETARY SPYWARE is uncool https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Speech_to_text__she_APTly_whispered__how_hard_can_it_be_.html
15:03 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: Speech to text, she APTly whispered, how hard can it be?
15:05 TR News; What if this colleague is inherently rogue? Then what? https://reason.com/volokh/2023/04/22/the-stealth-impeachment-of-judge-newman-in-the-federal-circuit/
15:05 TR Bot; The Stealth Impeachment of Judge Newman in the Federal Circuit
15:06 TR News; siliconangle paid to spew out spam for 'Linux' Foundation (proprietary companies) this week
15:06 XRevan86; https://libreboot.org/news/libreboot20230423.html
15:06 TR Bot; Libreboot Libreboot 20230423 released!
15:06 schestowitz; cheers
15:09 TR News; "There is a new application available for Sparkers: Lite XL What is Lite XL? A lightweight text editor written in Lua, derived from Lite." https://sparkylinux.org/lite-xl/
15:09 TR Bot; Lite XL SparkyLinux
15:09 TR News; Graduate workers union requests voluntary recognition from Stanford https://stanforddaily.com/2023/04/21/graduate-workers-union-requests-voluntary-recognition-from-stanford/
15:09 TR Bot; Graduate union requests voluntary recognition from Stanford
15:10 TR News; A Beginners Guide to Bash Built-In Commands https://tecadmin.net/bash-built-in-commands/
15:10 TR Bot; A Beginner's Guide to Bash Built-In Commands TecAdmin
15:11 TR News; A Comprehensive Guide to Using Arguments and Flags in Bash https://tecadmin.net/using-arguments-and-flags-in-bash/
15:11 TR Bot; A Comprehensive Guide to Using Arguments and Flags in Bash
15:13 TR News; Mastering Arithmetic & Comparison Operators in Bash: A Comprehensive Guide https://tecadmin.net/arithmetic-comparison-operators-in-bash/
15:13 TR Bot; Mastering Arithmetic & Comparison Operators in Bash TecAdmin
15:13 TR News; What Is the Differences Between [[, [, (, and (( Bash Operators https://tecadmin.net/differences-between-parentheses-brackets-in-bash/
15:13 TR Bot; What Is the Differences Between [[, [, (, and (( Bash Operators
15:13 TR News; (NEW): Libreboot 20230423 released! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Libreboot_20230423_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Libreboot_20230423_released.gmi
15:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Libreboot 20230423 released!
15:15 TR News; Mastering the Ping Command: A Comprehensive Guide to Network Troubleshooting https://tecadmin.net/ping-command/
15:15 TR Bot; Mastering the Ping Command: A Comprehensive Guide to Network Troubleshooting TecAdmin
15:15 TR News; Check Network Connectivity using Ping Command in Shell Scripts https://tecadmin.net/check-network-connectivity-using-ping-in-shell-scripts/
15:15 TR Bot; Check Network Connectivity using Ping Command in Shell Scripts
15:16 TR News; How to Put a GUI on Ansible, Using Semaphore https://thenewstack.io/how-to-put-a-gui-on-ansible-using-semaphore/
15:16 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://thenewstack.io/how-to-put-a-gui-on-ansible-using-semaphore/ )
15:16 TR News; Double Parentheses (()) in Bash: An In-Depth Guide to Arithmetic Expressions https://tecadmin.net/double-parentheses-in-bash/
15:16 TR Bot; Double Parentheses ((...)) in Bash: An In-Depth Guide to Arithmetic Expressions TecAdmin
15:17 TR News; Resolved Temporary Failure in Name Resolution Error in Linux https://tecadmin.net/resolved-temporary-failure-in-name-resolution-error-in-linux/
15:17 TR Bot; Resolved "Temporary Failure in Name Resolution" Error in Linux TecAdmin
15:17 TR News; Seamlessly Switching Between Zsh and Bash on macOS: A Comprehensive Guide https://tecadmin.net/switching-between-zsh-and-bash-on-macos/
15:17 TR Bot; Seamlessly Switching Between Zsh and Bash on macOS TecAdmin
15:18 TR News; How to Check the Ubuntu Version Using GUI and CLI Tools https://trendoceans.com/how-to-check-the-ubuntu-version-using-gui-and-cli/
15:18 TR Bot; How to Check the Ubuntu Version Using GUI and CLI Tools - TREND OCEANS
15:18 TR News; Using the -le Operator in Bash: A Comprehensive Guide https://tecadmin.net/bash-less-than-or-eqal-operator/
15:18 TR Bot; Using the '-le' Operator in Bash: A Comprehensive Guide TecAdmin
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; Manjaro 22.1 Talos is Now Available to Download https://www.omglinux.com/manjaro-22-1-released/
15:20 TR Bot; Manjaro 22.1 'Talos' is Now Available to Download - OMG! Linux
15:21 TR News; In a Rush? Try this Speed Reading App for Linux https://www.omglinux.com/speed-reading-app-for-linux/
15:21 TR Bot; In a Rush? Try this Speed Reading App for Linux - OMG! Linux
15:22 TR News; Flathub Website Gets a Brand New Look https://www.omglinux.com/flathub-website-just-got-a-major-redesign/
15:22 TR Bot; Flathub Website Gets a Brand New Look - OMG! Linux
15:27 TR News; Jon Chiappetta: OpenWRT Switching To Distributed Switch Architecture https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/openwrt-switching-to-distributed-switch-architecture/
15:27 TR Bot; OpenWRT Switching To Distributed Switch Architecture Jon's FOSS Blog
15:30 MinceR; lol @ immibis tantrum
15:31 TR News; Bare Metal Vi, boot into Vi without an OS! https://raymii.org/s/blog/Bare_Metal_Boot_to_Vi.html
15:31 TR Bot; Metal Vi, boot into Vi without an OS! - Raymii.org
15:31 TR News; Whats new in Node.js 20? https://www.cloudbooklet.com/whats-new-in-node-js-20/
15:31 TR Bot; What's new in Node.js 20?
15:32 TR News; Diagnosing and repairing a Brother fax/printer USB failure https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2023/04/diagnosing-and-repairing-a-brother-fax-printer-usb-failure/
15:32 TR Bot; Downtown Doug Brown Diagnosing and repairing a Brother fax/printer USB failure
15:34 TR News; Surveillance on you... via your 'wallet' https://hongkongfp.com/2023/04/23/how-chinas-alipay-and-wechat-pay-became-the-most-popular-e-payment-apps-in-hong-kong/
15:34 TR Bot; How China's Alipay and WeChat Pay became the most popular e-payment apps in Hong Kong - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
15:35 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/theodicy-3
15:35 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Theodicy
15:36 TR News; YARA v4.3.1 Release, (Sat, Apr 22nd) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29766
15:36 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
15:41 TR News; Sacklers bribed https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/23/health/sacklers-opioids-national-academies-science.html
15:41 TR Bot; Sacklers Gave Millions to Institution That Advises on Opioid Policy - The New York Times
15:43 TR News; Bed Bath & Beyond Files for Bankruptcy https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/23/business/bed-bath-beyond-bankruptcy.html
15:43 TR Bot; Bed Bath & Beyond Files for Bankruptcy - The New York Times
15:45 TR News; Covid-19 alive and well, still spreading and killing/maiming https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/johoreans-urged-to-wear-masks-as-more-cases-reported-amid-hari-raya-celebrations
15:46 TR Bot; Johoreans urged to wear masks during Hari Raya celebrations amid rise in Covid-19 cases | The Straits Times
15:58 TR News; Citing rights to privacy, customers sue Australian telecoms giant Optus over major data breach https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/04/citing-rights-to-privacy-customers-sue-australian-telecoms-giant-optus-over-major-data-breach/
15:58 TR Bot; Citing rights to privacy, customers sue Australian telecoms giant Optus over major data breach - JURIST - News
16:02 TR News; How to Install Kodi on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-kodi-on-fedora-linux/
16:02 TR Bot; to Install Kodi on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux - LinuxCapable
16:02 TR News; How to Install Exaile on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-exaile-on-fedora-linux/
16:02 TR Bot; to Install Exaile on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux - LinuxCapable
16:02 TR News; How to Install Strawberry on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-strawberry-on-fedora-linux/
16:02 TR Bot; to Install Strawberry on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux - LinuxCapable
16:02 TR News; How to Install SeaMonkey on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-seamonkey-on-fedora-linux/
16:02 TR Bot; to Install SeaMonkey on Fedora 38/37/36 Linux - LinuxCapable
16:04 schestowitz; https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1968370/vilnius-inaugurates-japanese-garden
16:04 TR Bot; Vilnius inaugurates Japanese Garden - LRT
16:04 schestowitz; MinceR: maybe a place to walk your fox-like akita
16:05 MinceR; no akitas for me, thank you very much
16:05 schestowitz; you have a fox as PM
16:08 TR News; KOL410 | Corrupt Money and Centralization of The State | The Stephan Kinsella Series | Episode 6 (WiM303) with Robert Breedlove, of the What is Money Show https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol410-corrupt-money-and-centralization-of-the-state-wim303-breedlove/
16:08 TR Bot; KOL410 | Corrupt Money and Centralization of The State | The Stephan Kinsella Series | Episode 6 (WiM303) with Robert Breedlove, of the What is Money Show
16:08 TR News; South Korea proposes Bill to protect victims of rental fraud https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-proposes-bill-to-protect-victims-of-rental-fraud
16:08 TR Bot; South Korea proposes Bill to protect victims of rental fraud | The Straits Times
16:11 TR News; Woman in Taiwan pours boiling soup on anothers face during fight over $870 debt https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taiwan-woman-pours-boiling-soup-on-another-s-face-during-fight-over-870-debt
16:11 TR Bot; Woman in Taiwan pours boiling soup on anothers face during fight over $870 debt | The Straits Times
16:12 TR News; Gulag pushes DRM (yes, THAT DRM) into Linux https://www.phoronix.com/news/Google-HDCP-Content-Connect
16:12 TR Bot; Continues Working On More Linux HDCP Bits - Phoronix
16:18 TR News; Lithuania: Students stop university from using only proprietary authentication https://fsfe.org/news/2023/news-20230418-01.en.html
16:18 TR Bot; Lithuania: Students stop university from using only proprietary authentication - FSFE
16:19 TR News; SFP#20: All about Device Neutrality with Lucas Lasota https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/episode-20.en.html
16:19 TR Bot; SFP#20: All about Device Neutrality with Lucas Lasota - FSFE
16:19 TR News; (NEW): mesa 23.0.3 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/mesa_23_0_3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/mesa_23_0_3.gmi
16:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines mesa 23.0.3
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:25 TR News; (NEW): Flathub Website Gets a Brand New Look http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Flathub_Website_Gets_a_Brand_New_Look.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Flathub_Website_Gets_a_Brand_New_Look.gmi
16:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Flathub Website Gets a Brand New Look
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16:25 TR News; (NEW): In a Rush? Try this Speed Reading App for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/In_a_Rush_Try_this_Speed_Reading_App_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/In_a_Rush_Try_this_Speed_Reading_App_for_Linux.gmi
16:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines In a Rush? Try this Speed Reading App for Linux
16:26 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
16:26 TR News; (NEW): FSFE Unpaid Underage Labour ('Youth Hacking 4 Freedom') and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/FSFE_Unpaid_Underage_Labour_Youth_Hacking_4_Freedom_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/FSFE_Unpaid_Underage_Labour_Youth_Hacking_4_Freedom_and_More.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines FSFE Unpaid Underage Labour ('Youth Hacking 4 Freedom') and More
16:26 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Security_Leftovers.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
16:27 TR News; (NEW): Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_and_More.gmi
16:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update and More
16:28 TR News; Kiwi TCMS: Kiwi TCMS 12.2 https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2023/04/23/kiwi-tcms-122/
16:28 TR Bot; Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 12.2
16:32 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23041344
16:32 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
16:34 schestowitz; psydruid: https://www.manutd.com/en/matches/matchcenter?matchId=2359508
16:34 TR Bot; Brighton and Hove Albion vs TBC - English FA Cup 22 April 2023 | Manchester United | Manchester United
16:36 TR News; "A teacher once put two of us to the board; the task was to assign the months to the seasons" gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/04/23/seasonality.gmi
16:38 TR News; Up and down gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/nm03/2023/APR2023/entry_4 "A few days ago I watched -From Noob To Power User With Manjaro KDE- [1] and I followed the video and installed it myself."
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16:49 TR News; The way to 'cancel' (silence) powerful/poplar people who don't obey the will of the "other" powerful keeps evolving. It used to be antisemitism and connections to pedos like Jeffrey Epstein. Nowadays you just throw questions at them about athletes, pronouns etc. to call them transphobic and... more recently, it would appear that new methods emerge. When did we last see a musician criticising the copyright cartel? Taylor came close.
16:50 TR News; Never criticise the copyright cartel for professional survival. The ticketing corporations (monopoly/ies)? Maybe. But not the cartel.
16:52 TR News; The music cartel is a lot bigger than ticketmaster. The cartel could throw ticketmaster under the bus and replace it. Same for the so-called 'industry' of films. Same is true for military companies, which are even more aggressive and resort to assassinations, not just character assassinations.
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:10 TR News; Links 23/04/2023: Libreboot 20230423, Arianna 1.0.1, and PeaZip 9.2.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/23/peazip-9-2-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/23/peazip-9-2-0/
17:10 TR Bot; Links 23/04/2023: Libreboot 20230423, Arianna 1.0.1, and PeaZip 9.2.0 | Techrights
17:13 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcHdF1eHhgc
17:13 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=NcHdF1eHhgc
17:13 TR Bot; yt.artemislena.eu | Birth - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - Invidious
17:14 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi
17:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
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17:15 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
17:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
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17:15 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
17:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
17:18 TR News; "Looking for a Christmas present for the family I thought a 3D printer might fit the bill." gemini://clanmorgan.org/gemlog/2023-04-23-3d-printing-with-prusa.gmi
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:21 TR News; Americas Inflation Villain Gets a Makeover https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/business/economy/arthur-burns-inflation-paul-volcker.html
17:21 TR Bot; Americas Inflation Villain Gets a Makeover - The New York Times
17:21 TR News; Why SoFi Is Suing to End the Student Loan Payment Pause https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/22/your-money/sofi-student-loans-lawsuit.html
17:21 TR Bot; Why SoFi Is Suing to End the Student Loan Payment Pause - The New York Times
17:22 TR News; Cellphones? We don't have them here. Also, there's this thing called "mobile" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/22/world/europe/uk-emergency-alert-system.html
17:22 TR Bot; Cellphones Across Britain Will Blast a Loud Siren-like Alert This Weekend - The New York Times
17:23 TR News; Chinese Censorship Is Quietly Rewriting the Covid-19 Story https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/23/world/europe/chinese-censorship-covid.html
17:23 TR Bot; Chinese Censorship Is Quietly Rewriting the Covid-19 Story - The New York Times
17:24 TR News; Russian Stockmann sells fake "Finnish" brands https://yle.fi/a/74-20028446
17:24 TR Bot; Russian Stockmann sells fake "Finnish" brands | News | Yle Uutiset
17:26 TR News; With the Fox-Dominion Settlement Were Still at the Mercy of a Billionaire Dynasty https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/political-scene/with-the-fox-dominion-settlement-were-still-at-the-mercy-of-a-billionaire-dynasty
17:26 TR Bot; With the Fox-Dominion Settlement Were Still at the Mercy of a Billionaire Dynasty | The New Yorker
17:29 TR News; Why we love voice notes https://www.axios.com/2023/04/23/voice-memo-whatsapp-imessage-hinge-slack
17:29 TR Bot; Voice messages: Sharing audio recordings becoming more popular
17:29 TR News; Bed Bath & Beyond files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, will liquidate https://www.axios.com/2023/04/23/bed-bath-beyond-bankruptcy-chapter-11-liquidation
17:29 TR Bot; Bed Bath & Beyond files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, will liquidate
17:30 lord_bagira; wow bed bath and beyond tanked
17:30 lord_bagira; ill never forget the one time i went in there and asked if they sell box springs for sleeping mattresses and the sales rep didn't know they are
17:31 lord_bagira; *didn't know what they are
17:31 TR News; Makeblock Ultimate 2.0 review A multi-function 10-in-1 educational robot kit https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/04/23/makeblock-ultimate-2-0-review-a-multi-function-10-in-1-educational-robot-kit/
17:31 TR Bot; Makeblock Ultimate 2.0 review - A multi-function 10-in-1 educational robot kit - CNX Software
17:32 TR News; This basketball sculpture sinks shots for socialites https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/22/this-basketball-sculpture-sinks-shots-for-socialites/
17:32 TR Bot; This basketball sculpture sinks shots for socialites | Arduino Blog
17:36 TR News; Norwegian translation support added to EasyOS https://bkhome.org/news/202304/norwegian-translation-support-added-to-easyos.html
17:36 TR Bot; Norwegian translation support added to EasyOS
17:38 TR News; India must focus on structural reforms to further boost electronics exports: Experts https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/india-must-focus-on-structural-reforms-to-further-boost-electronics-exports-experts
17:38 TR Bot; India must focus on structural reforms to further boost electronics exports: Experts | The Straits Times
17:38 TR News; China world leader in 37 out of 44 critical technologies, Finland out of chart https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/23435-china-world-leader-in-37-out-of-44-critical-technologies-finland-out-of-chart.html
17:38 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/23435-china-world-leader-in-37-out-of-44-critical-technologies-finland-out-of-chart.html )
17:40 TR News; 10 Things to Do After Installing Ubuntu 23.04 [With Bonus Tip] https://www.debugpoint.com/things-to-do-ubuntu-23-04/
17:40 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/things-to-do-ubuntu-23-04/ )
17:40 TR News; Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster: Best New Features https://www.debugpoint.com/ubuntu-23-04-features/
17:40 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/ubuntu-23-04-features/ )
17:41 liberty_box_ libertybox libertybox_ libertybox__ lord_bagira lordbagira
17:41 schestowitz; lord_bagira: ymbnh
17:42 lord_bagira; schestowitz, im still confused about what she sleeps on
17:43 schestowitz; maybe new on the job
17:43 schestowitz; maybe nepotism
17:43 schestowitz; people who made the beds used to sell them
17:43 schestowitz; then the corporations took over
17:43 lord_bagira; just needed a little training i think
17:43 schestowitz; with "department"
17:43 schestowitz; the left hand does not know what the right does
17:43 lord_bagira; im sure it does, she looked quite skilled
17:44 TR News; Skywatch: Honey, I shrunk the universe https://www.twincities.com/2023/04/23/skywatch-honey-i-shrunk-the-universe/
17:44 TR Bot; Skywatch: Honey, I shrunk the universe Twin Cities
17:44 schestowitz; if she did the trade, she'd know
17:44 schestowitz; trade= building
17:44 schestowitz; or assembly
17:45 schestowitz; if you get a blank stare at the till
17:45 schestowitz; when you ask about the product
17:45 schestowitz; maybe you're at the wrong shop
17:45 schestowitz; de-skilling is not due to "workee shortage"
17:45 schestowitz; it's about business owners
17:45 schestowitz; they want cheap labour
17:45 schestowitz; replacing veterans with "cheap" newbs works for them
17:45 schestowitz; no rights
17:45 schestowitz; low salary
17:46 schestowitz; no assertive workkforce
17:46 schestowitz; just following orders
17:46 schestowitz; and easily disposable
17:47 schestowitz; people who sell computers need not know programming
17:47 schestowitz; but components at least
17:47 schestowitz; ports, standards..
17:52 TR News; SSDs in Laptops and Desktops Cost Too Damn Much https://www.tomshardware.com/opinion/ssds-in-laptops-and-desktops-cost-too-damn-much
17:52 TR Bot; SSDs in Laptops and Desktops Cost Too Damn Much | Tom's Hardware
17:52 TR News; Sudan: A Bloody Turn in Africa's Story of Hope https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-bloody-turn-in-africa-s-story-of-hope-in-sudan-a-57c7233d-1250-46e5-b22d-6d5d3b7d7b44
17:52 TR Bot; Sudan: A Bloody Turn in Africa's Story of Hope - DER SPIEGEL
17:53 TR News; Russian Fertilizer Seized In Latvia Sent To Kenya By UN Agency https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-latvia-fertilizer-kenya/32374793.html
17:53 TR Bot; Russian Fertilizer Seized In Latvia Sent To Kenya By UN Agency
17:59 TR News; Autocorrecting my Git Commands https://www.olafalders.com/2023/04/23/autocorrecting-my-git-commands/
17:59 TR Bot; my Git Commands - olafalders.com
18:00 TR News; (NEW): Shotwell 0.32.0 Image Viewer Adds Support for JPEG-XL, AVIF, and WebP Images http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Shotwell_0_32_0_Image_Viewer_Adds_Support_for_JPEG_XL_AVIF_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/Shotwell_0_32_0_Image_Viewer_Adds_Support_for_JPEG_XL_AVIF_and_.gmi
18:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shotwell 0.32.0 Image Viewer Adds Support for JPEG-XL, AVIF, and WebP Images
18:04 TR News; Inflation data to set the scene for next cash rate call https://michaelwest.com.au/inflation-data-to-set-the-scene-for-next-cash-rate-call/
18:04 TR Bot; Inflation data to set the scene for next cash rate call - Michael West
18:04 TR News; Citizenship pledge sparks fears of NZ brain drain https://michaelwest.com.au/citizenship-pledge-sparks-fears-of-nz-brain-drain/
18:04 TR Bot; Citizenship pledge sparks fears of NZ brain drain - Michael West
18:06 TR News; "Don't be evil" https://michaelwest.com.au/alphabet-ceo-earns-more-than-220m-despite-cost-cutting/
18:06 TR Bot; Alphabet CEO earns more than $220m despite cost-cutting - Michael West
18:08 TR News; Early Adventures in Spaced Repetition https://two-wrongs.com/starting-spaced-repetition
18:08 TR Bot; Early Adventures in Spaced Repetition
18:09 TR News; Going with the flow to charge a clean energy revolution https://michaelwest.com.au/going-with-the-flow-to-charge-a-clean-energy-revolution/
18:09 TR Bot; Going with the flow to charge a clean energy revolution - Michael West
18:19 TR News; http://techrights.org/2023/04/23/emacs-for-p2p-deliberation/
18:19 TR Bot; LibrePlanet Talk by Joseph Turner (USHIN) on Emacs for P2P Deliberation | Techrights
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:22 TR News; "I'm giving gemini another shot despite almost certainly being pointless in terms of interactions with others. I'm simply going to accept that, and find value in the writing process, in creating posts in an orderly fashion, in possibly authoring some verbiage that somehow leads another back from whence we've come." gemini://textmonger.pollux.casa/gemlog/2023-04-23-01-try-try-again.gmi
18:23 TR News; "In my quest to get a job in Canada, I decided to enroll for a short 3 month program online, which should get me a very smart certificate once completed. The first course of six was completed where I was pleasantly surprised with the content of the course, it's delivery, and how much fun it was to take part in." gemini://ferds.flounder.online/gemlog/monologue_I.gmi
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18:42 TR News; (NEW): 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 23.04 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/10_Things_To_Do_After_Installing_Ubuntu_23_04.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/23/10_Things_To_Do_After_Installing_Ubuntu_23_04.gmi
18:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 23.04
18:49 TR News; Why Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai's salary is a touchy topic in tech world https://www.livemint.com/news/india/why-alphabet-ceo-sundar-pichai-s-salary-is-a-touchy-topic-in-tech-world-11682251708387.html
18:49 TR Bot; Why Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai's salary is a touchy topic in tech world | Mint
18:50 TR News; "Phones" are not phones https://www.arabnews.com/node/2291431/media
18:50 TR Bot; UK to test alert system on millions of phones | Arab News
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
19:07 psydruid; schestowitz, I slept through much of the game and see they're up to penalty kicks now
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:26 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: :)
19:27 schestowitz[TR]; Lindelof
19:35 TR News; No bards gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2023-04-23%20No%20bards
19:38 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Cajb-s0WLT0
19:38 TR Bot; Man United Vs Brighton Penalties 7-6 All Gals - 2023 - Invidious
19:41 TR News; Microsoft Windows? https://www.postguam.com/news/local/federal-office-probes-gmh-network-breach/article_0848cb50-e0cd-11ed-b3b3-6b2687403b80.html
19:41 TR Bot; office probes GMH network breach | Guam News | postguam.com
19:42 TR News; "Gary Bowser, the hacking group member who was convicted for creating and selling circumvention devices enabling users to play illegal backups on Switch and 3DS, has been released from prison early." https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/
19:42 TR Bot; Switch hacker Gary Bowser released from jail, will pay Nintendo 25-30% income for the rest of his life | VGC
19:48 TR News; (NEW): Greener FreeBSD and FreeBSD Status Report First Quarter 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/Greener_FreeBSD_and_FreeBSD_Status_Report_First_Quarter_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/Greener_FreeBSD_and_FreeBSD_Status_Report_First_Quarter_2023.gmi
19:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Greener FreeBSD and FreeBSD Status Report First Quarter 2023
19:48 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
19:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
20:16 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/21/israeli-phone-malware-maker-quadream-apparently-ready-to-call-it-quits-after-suffering-a-little-negative-press/
20:16 TR Bot; Phone Malware Maker QuaDream Apparently Ready To Call It Quits After Suffering A Little Negative Press | Techdirt
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:57 DaemonFC; "Tanks won't make an immediate difference in Ukraine."
21:57 DaemonFC; Well, I mean, it's not like there's much incentive to field them right away.
21:58 DaemonFC; The Ukrainians operate a lot of Russian-made junk, but it's almost all newer and better than what Putler is now willing to send.
21:59 DaemonFC; Why even risk getting a modern tank damaged by fielding it against those?
21:59 DaemonFC; The Russian tanks aren't much of a threat, but they may have something else that can come in and do the damage.
22:00 DaemonFC; It makes more sense to keep fielding newer Russian tanks and to save the modern tank groups for an important reason, like as part of a campaign to retake occupied territory where the Russians are better defended.
22:01 DaemonFC; An Abrams or a Leopard would destroy many of these older Russian tanks, but like, what's even the point? So would T-72 and T-80s and Ukraine operates those.
22:02 DaemonFC; Not having things like a gun stabilizer or autoloader alone put the Russian tank crews in extreme danger, and that's before you get to the part where Putin doesn't care if they have much armor on them.
22:03 MinceR; i thought orcish tanks were the only ones to use autoloaders
22:03 DaemonFC; If the Russian "defense" industry was capable of upgrading older tanks, they'd at least be somewhat menacing.
22:03 DaemonFC; But if they can even get them to start up, off they go.
22:05 DaemonFC; Some NATO tanks use them. Also, South Korea.
22:05 DaemonFC; The French have them. Who knows if they'll send any tanks though?
22:06 DaemonFC; In any event, it's a handicap in the case of the Russians.
22:06 DaemonFC; Every time they get a tank blown up, they lose one more person.
22:06 DaemonFC; The tank crews shouldn't be considered expendable.
22:06 DaemonFC; But the Russians are weird like that.
22:07 DaemonFC; They always seem willing to take huge losses figuring they'll just swarm and win like that in the end, and it's not working here.
22:07 DaemonFC; "We have more people to kill."
22:07 DaemonFC; "You're a real man!"
22:07 DaemonFC; Pay grade: "Walmart"
22:09 DaemonFC; https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/23/business/buybuy-baby-closures-bankruptcy/index.html
22:09 TR Bot; What happens to buybuy BABY with Bed Bath & Beyond planning to go out of business | CNN Business
22:09 DaemonFC; Hopefully, Buy Buy Baby fails too.
22:09 DaemonFC; And those horrible radio commercials stop.
22:09 DaemonFC; "Buy Buy Baby! Welcome to parenthood!"
22:09 DaemonFC; Buy Buy Baby sounds like an ironic name for an abortion clinic.
22:10 DaemonFC; It's even worse than the children's clothing store "Once Upon a Child".
22:10 DaemonFC; Who names this stuff?
22:10 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
22:11 DaemonFC; How is there a chain of baby shops that are profitable?
22:11 DaemonFC; The birthrate has crashed.
22:11 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2023/04/21/the-cyber-resilience-act-threatens-open-source/
22:11 TR Bot; Cyber Resilience Act Threatens Open Source | Hackaday
22:11 DaemonFC; Only the really poor (paid off by the government) and the really rich (who have unlimited money) are have many children.
22:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I figured out a scheme to deal with the "cat inflation" problem.
22:13 DaemonFC; Bank a bunch of rebates stocking up on cat supplies. Use Mandy's 10% discount and my 5% cash back rewards along the way. Submit the receipts to the manufacturer in the "points" scheme.
22:13 DaemonFC; I'm sitting on enough receipts right now to get like $40 in $5 Walmart cards.
22:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yes, Catflation.
22:13 DaemonFC; That's what they're doing to us.
22:13 DaemonFC; Get two cats, pay for three.
22:14 DaemonFC; (food and litter)
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:21 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/23041345
22:22 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
22:42 AdmFubar; https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/03/russian-cyberwarfare-documents-leaked.html
22:42 TR Bot; Cyberwarfare Documents Leaked - Schneier on Security
22:54 AdmFubar; https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/20/kodiak-robotics-will-haul-freight-autonomously-for-tyson-foods/
22:54 TR Bot; Robotics will haul freight autonomously for Tyson Foods | TechCrunch
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 AdmFubar; https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-new-technology-could-blow-away-gpt-4-and-everything-like-it/
22:59 TR Bot; new technology could blow away GPT-4 and everything like it | ZDNET
23:02 AdmFubar; and 640k is all the memory you will ever need https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/22/bill-gates-ai-chatbots-will-teach-kids-how-to-read-within-18-months.html
23:02 TR Bot; Bill Gates: A.I. chatbots will teach kids how to read within 18 months
23:03 XRevan86; "Russian Cyberwarfare Documents Leaked - Schneier on Security" <- Old news.
23:03 MinceR; more bullshit from bill gAIDS
23:07 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/23041323
23:07 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-22.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-23.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:26 DaemonFC; https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=VxAkjaJ6wh8&listen=false
23:26 TR Bot; The Enterprise-D vs The Borg...one last time - Invidious
23:26 DaemonFC; The effects weren't there in the 90s to do the Enterprise-D justice.
23:27 DaemonFC; It basically took a movie budget and before they did that, they were onto the Enterprise-E.
23:28 DaemonFC; MinceR, TNG had its moments but moved slowly and without much of an arc.
23:28 DaemonFC; I did like the set of the Enterprise-D better than the others though.
23:28 DaemonFC; The next ones were too "futuristic" and "machine-like".
23:28 DaemonFC; The main bridge screamed 80s luxury car on the Enterprise-D.
23:28 MinceR; a futuristic machine-like machine from the future?
23:28 MinceR; well, i never!
23:29 DaemonFC; Well, you know.
23:29 DaemonFC; I mean, they didn't have any elegance to the design.
23:29 MinceR; "DALEKS HAVE NO CONCEPT OF ELEGANCE!"
23:29 DaemonFC; This much is obvious!
23:29 DaemonFC; :)
23:29 MinceR; :)
23:30 DaemonFC; "You would destroy the Cybermen with only four Daleks?"
23:30 DaemonFC; "WE WOULD DESTROY THE CYBERMEN WITH ONLY ONE DAAAAALEK!"
23:31 MinceR; "I'LL DO IT!"
23:31 DaemonFC; Still not a ginger.
23:31 DaemonFC; He's been everything now, including a woman, and black.
23:31 DaemonFC; But not a ginger.
23:31 MinceR; :>
23:32 DaemonFC; He should just give up and get some hair dye and become a transginger.
23:32 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
23:32 DaemonFC; :)
23:32 MinceR; "only a ginger can call another ginger ginger"
23:32 DaemonFC; MinceR, Alternate timeline, Borg Earth.
23:33 DaemonFC; See, there's Borg Illinois, and Borg Florida, and Borg Canada (very polite), and Borg Mexico....
23:33 DaemonFC; But who could forget everyone's favorite?
23:33 DaemonFC; Borg Cuba!
23:33 MinceR; lol
23:34 DaemonFC; I don't know what the Borg would want humans for.
23:34 MinceR; Borg Oblate Spheroid
23:34 DaemonFC; They already said they're not interested in things that take them further away from perfection.
23:34 MinceR; obviously, they were extremely far from perfection
23:35 DaemonFC; Remember the Kazan? Of course you do. The pathetic Delta Quadrant answer to Klingons that just ended up being a thinly veiled racist trope for black people.
23:35 DaemonFC; :)
23:35 MinceR; Kazon
23:35 DaemonFC; Seven of Nine said the Borg found them unworthy of assimilation.
23:35 DaemonFC; Because they're just a bunch of violent pirates and carjackers, basically.
23:35 MinceR; so the Borg already had what the Kazon had? :>
23:36 MinceR; even then, assimilating humans would be a very slight advancement
23:36 DaemonFC; Well, the Kazon.....were too stupid to realize how the technology worked.
23:36 DaemonFC; They just used it.
23:36 MinceR; just like most humans
23:36 DaemonFC; People who aren't very intelligent can use all sorts of technology if you hand it to them.
23:36 DaemonFC; Most people will figure out how to use a microwave oven, or a phone, or a car, or a computer.
23:37 MinceR; then again, the humans we have currently are far away from becoming the Star Trek humans
23:37 DaemonFC; The Kazon stole ships from others.
23:37 MinceR; we'll probably kill ourselves off before we could leave the solar system
23:37 DaemonFC; Then they forced them to repair the technology if it broke down, at gunpoint.
23:37 DaemonFC; Which works, I suppose.
23:37 DaemonFC; They're a parasitic race, which the Borg are as well.
23:38 DaemonFC; But the Borg immediately understand everything from the races they assimilate.
23:38 DaemonFC; The bodies are just worker bees at that point.
23:39 DaemonFC; Humans would be interesting for drones and for whatever unique knowledge and technology they had, and whatever problem solving abilities the Borg could gain from the sum of human knowledge.
23:39 DaemonFC; Which is sort of like, why would you go to the past to assimilate Earth?
23:39 DaemonFC; Humans in 2063? Just fresh out of a nuclear war?
23:39 DaemonFC; That's got to be even less interesting than the Kazon.
23:40 DaemonFC; That's a major plot hole.
23:40 MinceR; :>
23:40 DaemonFC; Revenge against the Federation for being so stubborn? That doesn't make sense either.
23:41 DaemonFC; The Borg could bring more Cubes into the battle, destroy any size of Federation fleet, and take Earth in the present, with minimal losses.
23:41 DaemonFC; We saw the damage one Cube did to the entire Fleet before the Enterprise arrived.
23:41 DaemonFC; Losing drones doesn't matter to them.
23:42 DaemonFC; Seven of Nine said that when a drone body is killed, the Collective still has all of their knowledge.
23:43 DaemonFC; MinceR, I suppose the explanation for why the Enterprise-D was back made enough sense though.
23:44 DaemonFC; The saucer section was retrieved from Veridian III to avoid contaminating the planet (Prime Directive).
23:44 DaemonFC; The planet was uninhabited, but a neighboring one was inhabited. It would make sense in such a system that the people on the other planet would be able to reach Veridian III before they developed faster than light travel.
23:45 DaemonFC; So the Prime Directive could end up becoming an issue.
23:45 DaemonFC; It would be nice if there were two Earth-like planets in our system.
23:46 DaemonFC; I wonder how common Earth-like planets really are.
23:46 DaemonFC; They keep saying "Earth-like planet" detected, but we don't have the capability to determine that.
23:47 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23041276
23:47 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
23:47 DaemonFC; And the definition could be pretty broad. Like, how many planets are out there where if you could reach them, humans could just live there? You're still talking about an alien ecosystem, an entirely different evolutionary process for any life, different gravity, more or less oxygen or other gases in the atmosphere.
23:47 DaemonFC; Small difference, you can't live there. It's close, but it's not close enough.
23:48 DaemonFC; Star Trek assumes that planets hospitable to humans are just littered about the galaxy everywhere.
23:54 DaemonFC; MinceR, "Oh, fucking solids!"
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