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00:00 DaemonFC; And we'll see if it really does give you the 12 cents a gallon instead of the 9 cents.
00:02 DaemonFC; This is such a nuisance over 3 cents a gallon that it's probably only barely worth doing if you need almost a full tank of gas.
00:02 schestowitz_TR; seems like wasteful non-fun
00:02 schestowitz_TR; also, eating out is expensive, no matter what
00:02 schestowitz_TR; in recent years unsafe too
00:03 DaemonFC; Yeah. Probably their reasoning goes, if you're already in the parking lot, you need less incentive to just go ahead and tap it and go inside.
00:03 DaemonFC; But if you're a quarter mile away, hungry, and may go to several other restaurants, they offer you more.
00:03 DaemonFC; Manipulation.
00:04 DaemonFC; They probably advertise to business owners that this saves them money because they don't have to pay big bucks out to people who are unlikely to go anywhere else at that point.
00:07 schestowitz_TR; use an "app" to cook
00:07 schestowitz_TR; I'm sure there are "apps" for that
00:07 schestowitz_TR; not that I checked
00:07 schestowitz_TR; today I read a book
00:07 schestowitz_TR; while shaving
00:07 schestowitz_TR; we have some cook books
00:07 schestowitz_TR; some were gifts
00:07 schestowitz_TR; but I read a cook about gold
00:07 schestowitz_TR; reading cooking recipes just as reading material is pointless
00:08 DaemonFC; Yeah, I look up recipes online. If I really like them, I save them to be printed out in black and white over at the FedEx after stripping the page of garbage. Just down to the recipe.
00:08 DaemonFC; Then I put it in a binder.
00:08 schestowitz_TR; driving to a restaurant and waiting for orders can take longer than cooking
00:08 schestowitz_TR; you can even get the car smashed
00:08 schestowitz_TR; or scratched
00:08 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's how Walmart works.
00:09 schestowitz_TR; or get a ticket
00:09 DaemonFC; One of the reasons I just order for pickup is that I'm not parked out in the lot where someone's going to whack me with their car door.
00:09 schestowitz_TR; humans make safe parking spots a scarcity
00:09 schestowitz_TR; like clean drinking water
00:09 DaemonFC; I saw someone's car parked on the street with the bumper hanging off and what used to be their brake light assembly on the ground in pieces.
00:09 DaemonFC; Hit and run.
00:10 DaemonFC; There's a SUV I see someone driving around here that has the front end missing and they're driving around with the airbags deployed.
00:10 schestowitz_TR; my bike awas stoken when I was, ironically, at a bike shop
00:10 schestowitz_TR; and the store manager saw the theft happening outside in the parking lot
00:10 DaemonFC; If you're not going to fix it, at least take a knife and cut them out.
00:11 DaemonFC; An impact has to be at least a certain force to set the airbags off because airbags can hurt the passenger if they get deployed during a fender bender, and they cost thousands of dollars to replace and pack properly.
00:11 DaemonFC; So if they deploy, the car is probably totaled already anyway.
00:12 DaemonFC; The Buick is the safest car I've ever owned.
00:12 DaemonFC; It has airbags in the front, it has side impact airbags. It has airbags coming out of the ceiling.
00:12 DaemonFC; Every car I've ever owned has had at least front air bags, but nothing beyond that.
00:14 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/06/18/man-called-911-to-report-slow-service-at-restaurant-in-richmond-court-docs-allege/
00:14 TR Bot; Man called 911 to report slow service at restaurant in Richmond, court docs allege
00:14 DaemonFC; Albor also allegedly said that there would be a problem if the police did not respond to go tune them up.
00:14 DaemonFC; RoboCop voice: Make this waitress move quicker or there will be......trouble.
00:14 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:14 MinceR; :>
00:15 DaemonFC; "Albor failed to appear at his first court hearing that was scheduled on June 9.
00:15 DaemonFC; McHenry County Judge Mary Nader issued an arrest warrant during the court hearing.
00:15 DaemonFC; Albor was arrested on Monday and taken into the custody of the McHenry County Jail."
00:16 DaemonFC; "Court records show Albor was charged in early April after allegedly making two false 911 calls on March 31 in Richmond. In that case, which remains ongoing, he was charged with two Class 4 felonies.
00:16 DaemonFC; Albor called 911 to report that his hotel manager was drunk and making him sick, according to a criminal complaint.
00:16 DaemonFC; During the second 911 call, the man falsely told dispatchers that someone was trying to kill him, the complaint said."
00:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, After his appearance in court, they'll have to arrest him again for calling 911 to report that the judge was really really mean and needs tuned up.
00:17 DaemonFC; "[Suggested Article] Escaped 1,300-pound bison captured by crew of specialists in forest preserve near Wauconda"
00:18 DaemonFC; What do you do for a living? "Oh, I'm a specialist that specializes in Bison."
00:18 DaemonFC; Just don't get an insurance plan that makes you go to a non-specialist for a referral first.
00:18 DaemonFC; That can get very expensive.
00:21 DaemonFC; Just don't ask Mr. Goolag because he specializes in bull.
00:21 matey; never doing that again
00:21 matey; sometimes the element on the cooker gets loose
00:22 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/06/18/fbi-warns-illinois-parents-of-increase-in-sextortion-schemes-targeting-young-boys/
00:22 TR Bot; FBI warns Illinois parents of increase in 'sextortion' schemes targeting young boys
00:22 matey; the whole thing is insulated, except the part that plugs in of course
00:22 matey; so i didnt feel too unsafe just nudging...
00:22 matey; nope
00:22 matey; :)
00:22 DaemonFC; Man, there's a criminal mastermind. Gets on an app, on an iPhone, using their real IP address, gathers child porn, and then asks a kid who probably has no money, for money.
00:22 matey; not recommended
00:22 matey; at least i was wearing shoes (i didnt get bitten)
00:23 matey; theres a bit of moisture on the element, so when i nudged it back in this little orange spark shot out
00:23 matey; ive seen worse, but still
00:23 matey; turning it off before i try that again
00:23 matey; kettles on btw
00:23 DaemonFC; Oh, I was boiling cabbages at the motel.
00:23 schestowitz_TR; I put on the kettle on the hot a lot this night
00:23 schestowitz_TR; moving to teas for a bit
00:23 matey; it works fine, but i recommend shutting it off before adjusting the element
00:23 schestowitz_TR; then to decaff
00:23 DaemonFC; And I wasn't real careful and the pot boiled over and shorted out the cooktop.
00:23 DaemonFC; They probably never noticed.
00:24 schestowitz_TR; "cooktop"
00:24 DaemonFC; Most of those rooms were pretty terrible anyway.
00:24 schestowitz_TR; first time I hear a hob called that
00:24 schestowitz_TR; stove
00:24 schestowitz_TR; "cooker"
00:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, I had to get an induction cooktop from Amazon after that.
00:24 DaemonFC; I still haven't boiled cabbage since then. :)
00:24 schestowitz_TR; amazon does not make cooktops
00:24 DaemonFC; I noticed when I needed to boil a cabbage the next time that I could probably just steam it in my Instant Pot instead.
00:25 DaemonFC; So that's what I did.
00:25 DaemonFC; So really the entire incident where I trashed the cooktop was avoidable.
00:25 schestowitz_TR; cabbage in land of dreams
00:25 DaemonFC; That place was horrible.
00:25 schestowitz_TR; probably some patented GM cabbage of billG
00:25 schestowitz_TR; Bill Gates says... [something ] cabbage
00:25 DaemonFC; Full of crackheads whose favorite pastime was playing "Shove the stolen Walmart and Aldi carts into the retention pond.".
00:26 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
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00:26 DaemonFC; "I LOVE THAT GAME! What was your high score!?"
00:27 DaemonFC; To be fair, there were only a few Aldi carts in there. Probably because they had to put a quarter in and nobody had a quarter.
00:27 DaemonFC; I wonder if they tossed them in or if they pried the locking mechanism apart to get the quarter to add to their crack funds.
00:28 matey; water is decaf i think
00:28 matey; so are most herbals, naturally
00:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I was telling my cousin how my life was back then the other day.
00:28 matey; decaf black/green tea is just weird imo-- both unnatural and not even actually caff-free
00:28 matey; /me drinks tea with ice cream
00:29 DaemonFC; I said, "Have you seen Schitt's Creek?". She goes, "Yeah.". I said, "A fair bit worse than that, actually.".
00:29 matey; i suppose if the goal is to have LESS caff but SOME caff it makes a bit of sense
00:30 schestowitz_TR; decaff coffee blend
00:30 matey; but they use some harsh chemicals to process it
00:30 schestowitz_TR; I picked one bag just to try it
00:30 schestowitz_TR; I rarely pick decaff
00:30 matey; something like
00:30 matey; a large decaf has more caff than a small normal caff does
00:30 schestowitz_TR; I took one or two of each blend
00:31 schestowitz_TR; even the more pricey ones
00:33 DaemonFC; You have to be really careful here. There's plenty of good sidewalks and people stagger around in the streets in the middle of the night, in areas that are not well lit.
00:33 TR News; Manjaro 21.3 Brings GNOME 42.2 Edition, Sticks to LTS Kernel and Plasma Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166229
00:33 TR Bot; Manjaro 21.3 Brings GNOME 42.2 Edition, Sticks to LTS Kernel and Plasma Desktop | Tux Machines
00:33 DaemonFC; I just drive around with my brights on in the morning. I'd rather get pulled over and yelled at by a cop than charged with a crime for hitting some black guy out on the black top in the black of night.
00:33 DaemonFC; One's a little more than a $25 ticket for having your high beams on.
00:34 MinceR; can it really be "decaf" if there never was any "caf" in it to remove in the first place?
00:35 DaemonFC; MinceR, Plus, you can always try the "Oh, did I have those on? My bad. Have a blessed day, sir!"
00:35 schestowitz_TR; you say "blessed day"?
00:35 schestowitz_TR; like "thoughts and prayers"?
00:36 TR News; foss vanitasvitae's blog: Reproducible Builds Telling of a Debugging Story https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/06/20/reproducible-builds-telling-of-a-debugging-story/
00:36 TR Bot; Reproducible Builds Telling of a Debugging Story vanitasvitae's blog
00:37 matey; can it really be "decaf" if there never was any "caf" in it to remove in the first place? <- i suppose technically "noncaf" would be a more reasonable term
00:37 matey; i just saw / heard what appeared to be a (minor) "lovers tiff" between two guys
00:37 matey; it was cute
00:37 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR> like "thoughts and prayers"?
00:37 DaemonFC; It's just a joke, you know.
00:38 matey; they might only be friends (if so, there are some cultural differences)
00:38 DaemonFC; I'm not the kind of person to tell anyone to have a blessed day unless I'm playing dumb to get out of trouble.
00:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, There was a guy in a Lincoln in the Walmart parking lot yesterday, sitting in the intersection, idling, talking on his phone.
00:39 DaemonFC; So I laid on the horn until he couldn't carry on his conversation and got annoyed and left.
00:39 schestowitz_TR; lots of door slamming next toi us today
00:39 matey; oh this wasnt so dramati
00:39 matey; it was really light on drama
00:39 schestowitz_TR; and some verbal arguing, an old couple
00:39 DaemonFC; Mandy got in the car and was like "What were you doing back there?". I said, "Trying to annoy that asshole on his phone so he'd leave.".
00:40 matey; this was nearly at the "dont tell me how to drive" level, maybe less
00:40 DaemonFC; "The Buick does have a nicer horn than the Impala."
00:40 matey; its cuter because i didnt know that guy was gay-- and i still dont, but now im PRETTY SURE
00:41 matey; either gay or from spain, one of the two
00:41 schestowitz_TR; lol
00:41 schestowitz_TR; "what you mean. you think espana gay?"
00:41 matey; "are you gay?" "noooo, im ENGlish"
00:41 DaemonFC; What's the difference? It's Europe. They're all gay.
00:41 DaemonFC; Like really really gay.
00:41 matey; there are certainly plenty of "macho" guys in spain
00:41 matey; who i would never look at the wrong way
00:41 matey; THESE GUYS were NOT them
00:42 DaemonFC; They're so gay that the people in France have ambulances that sound like two gay guys having sex and they think a movie is a good looking person smoking a cigarette in black and white.
00:42 matey; also europeans are less uptight about public affection
00:42 matey; so theres a lot of (platonic) kissing (especially on the cheek) in europe
00:42 matey; and these guys speak spanish
00:42 schestowitz_TR; there was
00:43 matey; yeah maybe not anymore
00:43 DaemonFC; Yeah, I know.
00:43 matey; but not everyone gives a shit either
00:43 DaemonFC; I don't know what the Philippines is like.
00:43 DaemonFC; Mandy is in Chicago and thinks they execute people for holding hands here.
00:43 matey; anyway i grew up around lots of gay people for reasons i wont get into
00:43 DaemonFC; Nah. They don't even execute the murderers.
00:43 matey; so its never been that "weird" to me, its basically "normal"
00:43 DaemonFC; You'll probably get carjacked though.
00:43 DaemonFC; Nothing to do with being gay though.
00:44 matey; when i was growing up, lots of people did consider it weird though
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00:44 matey; now its pretty normal everywhere (almost)
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00:44 matey; it was going on either way
00:44 matey; people just had different attitudes
00:44 matey; like maybe if you ignore it, people will stop or something
00:45 matey; good luck with that
00:45 matey; hasnt worked in thousands of years but
00:45 matey; ya never know
00:46 matey; its too bad they didnt get used to it sooner, maybe alan turing couldve lived a longer life
00:46 matey; hardly the only reason, but goddamn
00:46 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/06/14/employee-charged-with-shooting-manager-with-air-gun-leaving-him-injured-at-grocery-store-in-waukegan/
00:46 TR Bot; Employee charged with shooting manager with air gun, leaving him injured, at grocery store in Waukegan
00:48 DaemonFC; This is the kind of people who GET jobs here.
00:48 DaemonFC; Gets told to push shopping carts back into the store, so he grabs a pellet gun and finds his manager and shoots him with it.
00:48 DaemonFC; Now he's in jail on $300,000 bond waiting a felony trial.
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00:49 MinceR; 20 014336 < DaemonFC> Nah. They don't even execute the murderers.
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00:49 MinceR; it doesn't follow from that
00:49 matey; it doesn't follow from that <- hmm?
00:50 MinceR; even if they don't execute the murderers, they could still execute people for holding hands
00:50 matey; i expect government to succumb to culture EVENTUALLY
00:50 matey; through capitulation or overthrow
00:51 matey; so improvements in culture USUALLY result in improvements in government
00:51 matey; (but its all relative of course)
00:51 matey; the keyword being eventually
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00:51 matey; the government of course can be quite imposing and (in the short run) give zero fucks about the "culture"
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00:52 matey; but a more open culture is a good influence on the government, or at least a better one than a really stupid culture
00:52 matey; if anything, the less educated people are, the less hope there of the government ever improving (or even revolution having any positive effect)
00:53 matey; if youre going to change the world, there has to be a serious effort to make people less backwards
00:53 matey; and i really mean by example and education
00:53 matey; not indoctrination and force
00:54 matey; so the fake left is still very useless in this sense
00:54 matey; they can be very kiss-the-ring about "progress"
00:54 matey; if i appreciated that approach i would LOVE lieplanet
00:54 matey; apart from being shit on toast, it ALSO doesnt work very well
00:55 matey; so its not only obnoxious, its less effective
00:55 matey; the fsf certainly isnt more tolerant now
00:55 matey; its more backwards than ever
00:56 matey; in a non-authoritarian regime you can say "this is bullshit" no matter what you think
00:56 matey; in an authoritarian environment thats seriously "frowned upon"
00:56 matey; theres goodthink, and badthink
00:57 matey; and goodthink tends to reinforce the regime
00:57 matey; arbitrarily, really
00:57 matey; youd think the more power the regime got the more they would fucking relax
00:57 matey; but it doesnt work that way
00:58 matey; they just keep pissing people off with their bullshit, making more enemies and becoming more paranoid
00:58 matey; leaning on bullshit rules harder and harder
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00:58 matey; until one day they get thrown out onto the street (at best)
00:58 matey; fingers crossed
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00:58 matey; i hope to see that day
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 12.75
00:59 matey; the fsf has been being an iron curtain for years
00:59 matey; its laughable
00:59 matey; s/being/behind/
01:02 matey; part of the reason nothing at the fsf makes any sense is that they have so little transparency
01:02 matey; when something important happens, its hush hush
01:02 matey; if not outright secret
01:02 matey; they might as well call it the "shadow" fsf
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01:02 matey; the shoe fits if the coup found fucking refuge in that for YEARS at at a time
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01:03 matey; and the shadow fsf still exists
01:03 matey; its the only part with any authority
01:03 matey; or any ability
01:04 matey; because all the transparent parts of the organisation are feckless and powerless
01:04 matey; and ultimately useless
01:04 matey; this happens in corrupt governments
01:05 matey; seeing this level of intrigue in a little 501c3 non-profit corporation is surreal
01:05 matey; but it wouldnt be the first example
01:05 matey; i wish dan brown was a former fsf member
01:05 matey; he could write a book based on it
01:05 matey; even if it was fiction it would be good shit (fsvo "good")
01:06 matey; id read it
01:07 matey; people act like the coup was driven out
01:07 matey; out into the open
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01:08 matey; that was fun
01:10 matey; anyway if you want to help ibm by purcasing an overpriced water bottle, i have good news for you
01:10 matey; OH HEY!
01:11 matey; looks like they accidentally revealed knauths secret to running a post-stallman fsf
01:11 matey; a magic 8 ball https://shop.fsf.org/gear/software-freedom-advice-orb
01:11 TR Bot; Software Freedom Advice Orb | FSF Shop
01:11 matey; "is the fsf going to stop selling out in FY 2022-2023?"
01:11 matey; "signs point to no"
01:12 matey; is the real stallman ever coming back?
01:12 matey; "reply hazy, ask again"
01:12 matey; and again and again and again and again
01:13 matey; if you play a trisquel source dvd backwards it says "stallman is dead"
01:13 MinceR; that's nothing
01:13 MinceR; if you play it forward, it infects your pc with systemd!
01:13 matey; /me bows to the master
01:14 MinceR; :)
01:14 matey; oops! i meant main!
01:14 MinceR; lol
01:20 matey; "Celebrate with your feet 35 years of the Free Software Foundation by donning these festive socks! The black, blue, and pink color scheme is chosen to match the colors of your FSF 35th Anniversary Poster. They're made in the great state of Michigan"
01:20 matey; /me checks to see if theres are two michigans
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01:21 matey; technically thats better than china
01:22 matey; but not for lack of trying
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01:24 matey; "to match the colors of your FSF 35th Anniversary Poster" so it comes with a poster or theyre just presuming another sale?
01:28 matey; designed by david revoy, so its perfect for burning (please dont burn fsf35 posters near wooded areas, or basically anywhere in california because yknow, theres been enough wildfires already)
01:31 matey; Celebrate the 35th anniversary - the "coral anniversary" - of the FSF <- which like the coral reefs, is dying out at an alarming pace
01:33 matey; oh and they made a "buddy christ" version of the gnu head
01:33 matey; https://shop.fsf.org/tshirts-hoodies/gnu-head
01:33 TR Bot; GNU Head (Pre-order) | FSF Shop
01:34 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Christ
01:34 TR Bot; Buddy Christ - Wikipedia
01:36 matey; legend has it that the sunglasses-wearing gnu is not actually the real gnu head
01:37 matey; but a clever disguise stallman was using to hide in plain sight at the fsf
01:39 MinceR; that's not "buddy christ", that's "deal with it"
01:40 matey; "we killed your founder-- deal with it"
01:40 MinceR; :>
01:40 matey; said the romans to the bishop
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02:05 MinceR; https://bnull.net/s/shop.jpg
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02:12 matey; https://bnull.net/s/shop.jpg <- two felonies dont make a right
02:13 matey; actually shoplifting is a misdemeanor isnt it?
02:13 matey; it might work in florida
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02:26 DaemonFC; Oh that's great.
02:26 DaemonFC; I took out the HEPA filter from my Shark vacuum and the clip to hold in the HEPA filter immediately broke off.
02:26 DaemonFC; So I just strapped it back down with a piece of Gorilla Tape.
02:26 DaemonFC; Whatever.
02:26 DaemonFC; I could send it back but too much work.
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02:46 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-19.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-19.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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05:19 -kline-[Global Notice] We're preparing to carry out some planned but short notice maintenance. As such, we've not been able to drain the servers due to restart (iridium, osmium, platinum) and you should expect some noise as users are disconnected and automatically return. We have already alerted users on those servers. Sorry for the disruption and we hope that the impact to your use of the network is minimal.
05:32 DaemonFC; The state Supreme Court election is getting pretty fierce.
05:33 DaemonFC; I had one of the candidates offer to call me personally to ask for my vote.
05:33 DaemonFC; I already voted for the other guy.
05:38 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, June 19, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
05:38 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
05:38 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
05:38 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
05:40 TR News; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 19th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166230
05:40 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 19th, 2022 | Tux Machines
05:40 TR News; #HowTo Install ImageMagick 7 on RHEL/Fedora/AlmaLinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166231
05:40 TR Bot; How to Install ImageMagick 7 on RHEL/Fedora/AlmaLinux | Tux Machines
05:43 TR News; The Star by H. G. Wells gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Star.gmi
05:44 TR News; "I set up a helium hotspot today, It was ordered in january and finally arrived last week. As you can probably figure with bitcoin and basically everything shitting the economic bed, now is not exactly the most profitable time to recieve a cryptocurrency miner." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-19-tired.gmi
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05:44 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D618.jpg
05:45 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D267.jpg
05:46 TR News; "They do not conform to society standards and rather think for themselves." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/ayaron/sigmamales.txt
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05:49 TR News; "My aim was to get quickly, and as simple as possible, a web interface to my own git repositories" http://box.matto.nl/gitweb-on-freebsd-with-minihttpd.html | Source: MJ Fransen
05:49 TR Bot; on FreeBSD with mini_httpd - box.matto.nl
05:50 TR News; "Sure, binary formats are more efficient and transfer less data over the network." https://matt-rickard.com/the-power-of-plaintext-protocols/ | Source: Matt Rickard
05:50 TR Bot; The Power of Plaintext Protocols
05:53 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about the security of employees leaving jobs. Be it a voluntary departure or in the context of the current layoffs we see, what are the security implications of having to remove access for one or more people departing their job?" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/06/19/episode-328-the-security-of-jobs-or-job-security/
05:53 TR Bot; Episode 328 The Security of Jobs or Job Security Open Source Security
05:55 TR News; Humble Beginnings | LINUX Unplugged 463 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148967/humble-beginnings-linux-unplugged-463/
05:55 TR Bot; Humble Beginnings | LINUX Unplugged 463 | Jupiter Broadcasting
05:58 TR News; "So I would simply install FreeBSD 1.0, mess with it a little and then write an article about it." https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2022/06/18/legends-start-at-1-0-freebsd-in-1993-pt-1/ | Source: Eerie Linux
05:58 TR Bot; Legends start at 1.0! FreeBSD in 1993 (pt. 1) | eerielinux
05:59 TR News; OpenBGPD 7.4 released https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220619185920 | Source: Undeadly
05:59 TR Bot; OpenBGPD 7.4 released
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05:59 TR News; "Lets get back to the computing world. Can you officially name FreeBSD a UNIX? No. That is because Open Group company owns copyright to the UNIX term." https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/is-freebsd-a-real-unix/ | Source: Vermaden
05:59 TR Bot; Is FreeBSD a Real UNIX? |
05:59 TR News; "This document will guide you through the setup of a NetBSD VM using UTM on an Apple M1 to perform all your course work on." https://stevens.netmeister.org/631/utm/ |
05:59 TR Bot; Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment
06:00 TR News; "I recently finished Effective Software Testing A Developers Guide by Maurcio Aniche, and I really liked it." https://henrikwarne.com/2022/06/19/effective-software-testing-a-developers-guide/ | Source: Henrik Warne
06:00 TR Bot; Effective Software Testing A Developers Guide | Henrik Warne's blog
06:01 TR News; "Both of these approaches, to some degree, respect the principle that can be summed up as Parse Dont Validate." https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/raising-exceptions-or-returning-error-objects-in-python/ |
06:01 TR Bot; exceptions or returning error objects in Python - lukeplant.me.uk
06:01 TR News; "Python's regular expression function substitution is a handy and powerful way to do certain sorts of very generalized text substitution in a low hassle manner." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/RegexpFunctionSubstitutionWin | Source: uni Toronto
06:01 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/RegexpFunctionSubstitutionWin
06:02 TR News; "When I read this I thought: if the medium is the message, whats the message behind the medium of a personal blog?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-message-and-medium-of-the-personal-blog/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
06:02 TR Bot; The Message Behind the Medium of a Personal Blog - Jim Nielsens Blog
06:02 TR News; "Finally, and perhaps least obviously, it means the end of the library model that has served us so well for hundreds of years" https://walledculture.org/enjoy-digital-ownership-and-public-libraries-while-you-can-they-may-disappear-soon/ | Source: Walled Culture
06:02 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/enjoy-digital-ownership-and-public-libraries-while-you-can-they-may-disappear-soon/ )
06:03 TR News; Proprietary https://futurism.com/the-byte/police-hacked-gas-station-pumps | Source: Futurism
06:03 TR Bot; Police Say Dudes Hacked Gas Station Pumps to Make Prices Lower
06:04 TR News; Surveillance: "Hermit is a modular spyware that hides its malicious capabilities in packages downloaded after it's deployed" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/forget-pegasus-new-spyware-hermit-now-being-used-by-govts/92297566 | Source: India Times
06:04 TR Bot; hermit: Forget Pegasus, new spyware 'Hermit' now being used by govts, CIO News, ET CIO
06:04 TR News; Surveillance pact https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/19/23174775/tiktok-oracle-team-up-concerns-data-privacy-remain | Source: The Verge
06:04 TR Bot; TikTok and Oracle teamed up after all, but concerns about data privacy remain - The Verge
06:06 TR News; "Thats the opportunity I see here. So much engineering, hardware, and mental space was spent on this pointless tech." https://rubenerd.com/cryptocurrency-waste/ | Source: Ruben Schade
06:06 TR Bot; Cryptocurrency waste, in all senses of the word
06:06 TR News; "Nine years of Coalition dithering on climate and energy have surely taken their toll. Way behind the eight-ball on transition to renewable energy" https://michaelwest.com.au/ransom-notes-pay-us-to-keep-our-old-power-plants-running-or-else-say-fossil-fuel-majors/ | Source: Michael West Media
06:06 TR Bot; Ransom Notes: pay us to keep our old power plants running or else, say fossil fuel majors - Michael West
06:07 TR News; "Some lost their homes. Some emptied their retirement accounts." https://text.npr.org/1104969627 | Source: NPR
06:07 TR Bot; Medical debt upended their lives. Here's what it took from them
06:07 TR News; "A total of 14 accounts including those of party leaders Ricarda Lang and Omid Nouripour were compromised in such a way that some emails were forwarded" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/germanys-green-party-email-system-hit-cyberattack-85480139 | Source: ABC
06:07 TR Bot; Germany's Green party says email system hit by cyberattack - ABC News
06:08 TR News; "The EU has begun using Mastodon as a sovereign and privacy respecting federated microblogging platform." https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/joinup/discussion/mastodon-socialnetworkeuropaeu | Source: Joinup
06:08 TR News; "Put like this, the US can barely say no that is, to an Australian prime minister who makes it known with firmness and confidence he believes" https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/if-albanese-asks-for-assange-s-freedom-biden-has-every-reason-to-agree-bob-carr-20220619-p5autd.html | Source: Australia
06:08 TR Bot; timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/joinup/discussion/mastodon-socialnetworkeuropaeu )
06:08 TR Bot; If Albanese asks for Assanges freedom, Biden has every reason to agree: Bob Carr
06:09 TR News; "The LEC-MTK-I1200 comes in a SMARC 2.1 factor form and combines four Arm Cortex-A78 (up to 2.2GHz) and four Arm Cortex-A55 (up to 2.0GHz)." https://linuxgizmos.com/mediatek-present-genio-1200-som-compatible-with-adlinks-carrier-board/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
06:09 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/mediatek-present-genio-1200-som-compatible-with-adlinks-carrier-board/ )
06:09 TR News; "Short for kernel-based Virtual Machine, KVM is an opensource virtualization platform for the Linux kernel." https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-kvm-on-fedora-step-by-step/ | Source: LinuxTechi
06:09 TR Bot; How to Install KVM on Fedora 36 (Step by Step)
06:10 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166232
06:10 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
06:10 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, GNU World Order, Open Source Security Podcast, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166233
06:10 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, GNU World Order, Open Source Security Podcast, and More | Tux Machines
06:11 TR News; BSD: FreeBSD, OpenBGPD, and NetBSD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166234
06:11 TR Bot; BSD: FreeBSD, OpenBGPD, and NetBSD | Tux Machines
06:13 TR News; Episode of 'Sesame Street' allegedly removed for being too frightening is posted to social media https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/episode-sesame-street-allegedly-removed-frightening-posted-social-medi-rcna34300 Source: nbcnews
06:13 TR Bot; Episode of 'Sesame Street' allegedly removed for being too frightening is posted to social media
06:18 TR News; Links 20/06/2022: Linux 5.19 RC3 and OpenBGPD 7.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/openbgpd-7-4-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/openbgpd-7-4-2/
06:18 TR Bot; Links 20/06/2022: Linux 5.19 RC3 and OpenBGPD 7.4 | Techrights
06:19 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166235
06:19 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
06:24 TR News; "Censorship followed: Residents of Barkam have been barred from posting reports, pictures and any other information about the quake" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/quake-06132022181921.html | Source: RFA
06:24 TR Bot; China sets information blockade after 6.0 magnitude earthquake hits Tibetan county Radio Free Asia
06:25 TR News; "The provisions cover many types of comments, including anything from forum posts, replies, messages left on public message boards, and bullet chats (an innovative way that video platforms in China use to display real-time comments on top of a video)." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/18/1054452/china-censors-social-media-comments/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
06:25 TR Bot; China wants to censor all social media comments | MIT Technology Review
06:25 TR News; "Alena Hnauk was sentenced on June 17 by the Pruzhany district court in the western region of Brest, her relatives said" https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-activist-sentenced-42-months-prison-lukashenka/31903148.html | Source: RFERL
06:25 TR Bot; Belarusian Pensioner Sentenced To 42 Months In Prison For Criticizing Lukashenka
06:27 TR News; "Its of course terrifying for Assange, who doctors have warned may end up dying in prison as a result of this treatment." https://jacobin.com/2022/06/julian-assange-trial-updates/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
06:27 TR Bot; We Would Never Tolerate Julian Assanges Persecution If Any Other Country Carried It Out
06:27 TR News; "The internet and social media have turbocharged hate speech" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UN-Secretary-Warns-Against-Discrimination-Fueled-by-Internet-20220619-0009.html | Source: teleSUR
06:27 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:27 TR News; AppleCORE https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/18/23172232/apple-store-towson-town-center-union-election-results-votes | Source: The Verge
06:27 TR Bot; Apple retail workers vote to unionize a store in Maryland - The Verge
06:27 TR News; "The IAM bills itself as one of the largest and most diverse industrial trade unions in North America" https://text.npr.org/1106116113 | Source: NPR
06:27 TR Bot; Apple workers vote to unionize at Maryland store
06:28 TR News; [Old] "Or thats how it used to work Content landlords are now spending millions to change the rules and convince the public it works differently." https://mekarpeles.medium.com/content-landlords-and-the-eviction-of-american-libraries-18461f9d819a |
06:28 TR Bot; Content Landlords and the Looming Eviction of American Libraries | by Mek | Medium
06:28 TR News; [Old] "There are some things worth knowing about libraries: [...]" https://mek.fyi/posts/the-uncertain-future-of-american-libraries |
06:28 TR Bot; The uncertain future of american libraries
06:29 TR News; Federal Reserve https://truthout.org/articles/federal-reserve-puts-burden-of-curbing-inflation-on-global-working-class/ | Source: TruthOut
06:29 TR Bot; Federal Reserve Puts Burden of Curbing Inflation on Global Working Class
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:30 TR News; "While 7-segment displays are all well and good, theyre considered a bit old hat these days." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/19/rgb-7-segment-display-module-glows-in-all-the-colours/ | Source: Hackaday
06:30 TR Bot; 7-Segment Display Module Glows In All The Colours | Hackaday
06:30 TR News; "Poverty Is Violence" https://truthout.org/articles/poverty-is-violence-thousands-march-on-dc-to-demand-economic-justice/ | Source: TruthOut
06:30 TR Bot; "Poverty Is Violence!" Thousands March on DC to Demand Economic Justice
06:31 TR News; Bitbanging https://hackaday.com/2022/06/19/animate-arcane-protocols-with-interrupt-backed-bitbanging/ | Source: Hackaday
06:31 TR Bot; Arcane Protocols With Interrupt-Backed Bitbanging | Hackaday
06:32 TR News; "Pirate site blocking is widely regarded as an effective tool to combat online piracy." https://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site-blockades-dont-change-old-piracy-habits-right-away-220619/ | Source: Torrent Freak
06:32 TR Bot; Site Blockades Don't Change Old Piracy Habits Right Away * TorrentFreak
06:32 TR News; Pfizer https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/19/pfizer-miami-yacht-colombia-presidential-rodolfo-hernandez/ | Source: The Gray Zone
06:32 TR Bot; Pfizer reportedly sponsored Miami yacht party for failed Colombian presidential contender Rodolfo Hernndez - The Grayzone
06:33 TR News; "Ukraine inherited none of the Soviet Unions debt, just as Scotland will inherit none of the United Kingdoms debt" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/06/no-debt/ | Source: Craig Murray
06:33 TR Bot; No Debt - Craig Murray
06:34 TR News; "Not all hacking happens on hardware every now and then, we ought to hack our software-based tools, too." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/19/openasar-tweaks-discords-frontend-improves-performance-and-privacy/ | Source: Hackaday
06:34 TR Bot; Tweaks Discords Frontend, Improves Performance And Privacy | Hackaday
06:36 TR News; Apple https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/19/we-did-it-workers-maryland-vote-form-first-us-apple-store-union | Source: Common Dreams
06:36 TR Bot; 'We Did It!' Workers in Maryland Vote to Form First US Apple Store Union
06:41 TR News; Senate Panel Raises Biden's Bloated Military Budget by $45 Billion https://truthout.org/articles/revolting-senate-panel-raises-bidens-bloated-military-budget-by-45-billion/ | Source: TruthOut http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
06:41 TR Bot; 'Revolting': Senate Panel Raises Biden's Bloated Military Budget by $45 Billion
06:41 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
06:46 TR News; Bluestar 5.18.5 is out, based on Arch https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
06:46 TR Bot; download | SourceForge.net
06:47 TR News; aria2 A Command Line Download Tool for Linux https://linuxhint.com/aria2-command-line-download-tool-linux/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
06:47 TR Bot; aria2 A Command Line Download Tool for Linux
06:48 TR News; The aplay Linux Command https://linuxhint.com/aplay-linux-command/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
06:48 TR Bot; The aplay Linux Command
06:49 TR News; In order to detect which capsules and which pages have new material in them weve been experimenting a lot in Geminispace (gemini:// protocol) and today I show a prototype of a notifier of sorts http://techrights.org/2022/06/19/gemini-notifications/
06:49 TR Bot; Polling for New Material in Geminispace Every Hour (for Gemini Notifications) | Techrights
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06:53 DaemonFC; "That said, the blocking measures may reduce the number of people who start using these sites for the first time."
06:54 DaemonFC; Unlikely. It might make it a little harder to find, but Google has been doing this crap for years to little effect.
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07:00 chunky; i luv u!!!
07:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166236
07:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
07:07 TR News; "Not many colleges teach the IBM i and RPG anymore, which makes it hard for midrange shops to replenish talent that way." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/20/plotting-a-middle-age-career-change-to-ibm-i/ ICBM is a dying company leeching off taxpayers to survive
07:07 TR Bot; Plotting A Middle Age Career Change To IBM i - IT Jungle
07:13 TR News; "The EasyOS image file has two different bootloaders, rEFInd for UEFI-BIOS booting, and syslinux for legacy-BIOS booting. You would download the image file and write it to a USB-stick and boot it." https://bkhome.org/news/202206/limine-bootloader-for-easyos.html
07:13 TR Bot; Limine bootloader for EasyOS
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07:14 TR News; Needless buzzwords https://tecadmin.net/what-is-information-technology/
07:14 TR Bot; What is Information Technology (IT)? TecAdmin
07:15 TR News; Does not mention that Gulag goes further by blackmailing sites into outsourcing "trust" to Pentagon-connected cartel https://linuxhint.com/connection-not-secure-chrome-warning/
07:15 TR Bot; What to Do with Your Connection is Not Secure Chrome Warning
07:16 TR News; AWS does not support Free software. Heck, it is proprietary software itself. Same for GitHub. Microsoft and Amazon are a threat the media intentionally does not talk about in this context.
07:18 TR News; This morning IT Jungle published 5 articles. All of them are pro-IBM fluff and IT Jungle is funded by IBM. The media is troublesome as it became a mouthpiece of corporations.
07:20 TR News; ICBM and Microsoft are both notorious for corruption and controlling the media. Sure, they're not alone, but they're among the worst. They try to compensate for unwanted products... by bribing reporters. Now Red Hat is the same because ICBM calls the shots.
07:21 TR News; It is good for Microsoft, not for Android https://www.androidpolice.com/pixel-android-13-exfat-support-history/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-13/
07:21 TR Bot; Android 13 will get official support for exFAT after years of development hell
07:21 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XIII: A Global IP Player | Techrights
07:24 TR News; "There is a talent shortage" = there are not enough qualified people in THIS COUNTRY whom we are ready/wiling/able to pay their MARKET VALUE
07:32 matey; free culture got its biggest push from someone who gave stallman the credit for all his ideas
07:33 matey; someone who has never personally done anything against stallman and who clearly holds him in high regard
07:33 matey; and someone who was on the fsf board a long time ago
07:34 matey; since then free culture has been a thorn in free softwares side, and vice versa
07:34 matey; i still think both are important
07:34 matey; i still think it was a huge mistake for free software to do as much as it did to neglect free culture
07:34 matey; even doing it a disservice on a number of occasions
07:35 matey; this gave open source a wedge to use against free software
07:35 matey; and it gave open source an ally that free software BARELY had for itself
07:35 matey; some of the critiques and justififications for this (from free software) were reasonable
07:35 matey; and imo, overplayed
07:36 matey; this was a bullet free software shot into its foot
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07:36 matey; and then it became a weapon which open source leveraged against free software
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07:37 matey; i spent many years (the better part of a decade) trying to push free software waway from this mistake
07:37 matey; it was of course hopeless
07:37 matey; just as hopeless as trying to push them away from systemd
07:38 matey; it became another victory for open source instead
07:38 matey; but a victory for open source is only a victory for corporations, against users
07:38 matey; its a victory for bullshit
07:39 matey; there were so many missed opportunities and wrong moves around this issue
07:39 matey; it was a strategic failure on free softwares part, plain and simple
07:39 matey; one of the larger ones imo
07:39 matey; (maybe not larger than they systemd one though)
07:40 TR News; How many patents involved? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61644033
07:40 TR Bot; Could flat tyres soon be a thing of the past? - BBC News
07:40 matey; i wont even compare it to the fuckery from 2018 onward
07:40 matey; by 2018 they had no defences left, they were toast
07:41 matey; anything the fsf has done from 2018 was nothing more than the free software charge of the light brigade
07:41 matey; with less bravery
07:41 matey; and higher losses
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07:46 kate; hi boys
07:47 matey; not all boys
07:47 kate; boyscots
07:47 matey; not since 2010
07:48 kate; boycottes
07:48 matey; /me does wonder why there are no girlcotts
07:49 kate; discrimination
07:49 matey; maybe the girls are girlcotting girlcotts
07:49 matey; its a very postmodern thing to do
07:50 matey; also a very open source thing to do
07:50 matey; postmodernism used corporatism against itself
07:50 matey; probably figured corporations would never figure out how to do similar
07:51 schestowitz_TR; hi kate
07:51 matey; the mistake there was that corporations have been doing it longer
07:51 matey; and its been the basis if judo for fuck knows how long
07:51 kate; misskate
07:52 kate; judo?
07:54 kate; Boy Scouts of America about 1.2 million youth participants.
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07:56 matey; Boy Scouts of America about 1.2 million youth participants. <- very few boy scouts here
07:57 matey; i think the closest thing we have to a boy scout here is psydroid, and hes not american
07:57 matey; i bet he knows how to tie and untie a few knots though
07:57 kate; there's more scouts than military
07:57 matey; that was the idea
07:58 matey; british though
07:58 matey; "alright hitler, lets see who you REALLY ARE"
07:58 matey; *gasp* its WINSTON CHURCHHILL!
07:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I just got an update for "Shim" that says it has to fix another security vulnerability in shim.
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 DaemonFC; mjg59_'s favorite program.
07:59 matey; "yeah, and i wouldve gotten away with it too, if not for these meddling kids!"
07:59 DaemonFC; Security Theater Boot
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08:00 kate; hitlers youth
08:01 matey; the nazi version of the boy scouts, or something
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08:01 matey; they sold cookies with little swastikas on them
08:01 matey; also known as the stroopwaffen
08:01 matey; they learned how to tie knots too, but... lets leave it at that
08:02 matey; the pope was a hitler scout!
08:02 matey; but to be fair, it was pretty much everybody
08:02 matey; the pope was <- i dont think thats the current one
08:02 matey; that was pope palpatine
08:03 matey; there are always two, the main and the apprentice
08:03 kate; what?
08:04 matey; dont worry its just star wars references
08:04 matey; i dont even like that movie
08:04 matey; the third one didnt suck as the first / 4th and 5th two of them
08:07 kate; Do you think England will fight back the HK invasion by china?
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08:07 matey; i think they will handle it at best as well as they handled germany in wwii
08:07 matey; which isnt as good as it sounds
08:08 matey; also theyre struggling to keep food on the table / in stores
08:08 matey; and even if they get food, its hard to get kitchen knives unless you know a guy
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08:09 kate; you can get stiks?
08:09 matey; i think the uk will be at the forefront of metal 3d printing soon enough
08:09 matey; you can get stiks? <- only former military and licensed builders, if theyre longer than .5 metres
08:10 matey; if the stick is pointed you have to register
08:10 matey; chopsticks are still a grey area
08:10 matey; they really cant do much about those
08:10 kate; you can pencil sharpner?
08:11 kate; sharpen you food sticks
08:11 matey; yeah but theyre really noisy
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08:11 kate; and stickemup
08:11 matey; so if people are using them in bulk the police usually know about it
08:11 kate; whats noisy?
08:11 techrights_guest|56; hi
08:11 matey; they make that telltale grinding noise
08:11 matey; even the handcranked ones
08:12 matey; unless you mean the little kid sharpeners, which are no good in bulk quantities
08:12 kate; you craazy
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08:12 techrights_guest|56; hi
08:12 matey; the universe is crazy, im simply getting by
08:12 techrights_guest|56; :b
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08:16 matey; the british military may be supplying russia with pointed sticks soon
08:16 matey; not because theyre on the same side, just because it isnt very sporting if russia doesnt have anything
08:16 kate; they thinking post nuclear war already?
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08:18 matey; meanwhile i think ukraine has some shoulder mounted laser thing that blows up russian pointed sticks or burns them very quickly
08:19 matey; but thats just too bad, they should have thought of that before invading
08:20 matey; im not in ukraine but i know what i would do next if i were in charge
08:21 matey; id have people start putting up signs that point back towards russia so the invading forces can find their way out
08:21 matey; maybe saying "exit" on them like building codes require
08:22 kate; 1.500 km to moscow
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08:26 matey; theres something very special about ukraine when you think about it
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08:26 matey; its not every day that someone invades another country illegally and for sheer profit
08:27 matey; and the world actually gives a shit about any of this
08:27 matey; its pretty unusual
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08:28 kate; no one cared about Syria
08:28 matey; or iraq
08:28 matey; or afghanistan
08:29 matey; or cuba
08:29 matey; or haiti
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08:30 matey; but then these days the stakes are higher
08:30 matey; less oil / gas than ever before i would imagine
08:30 matey; so of course things are unusual
08:30 kate; its history repeating?
08:31 matey; usa also made the invasion of germany look like it was for humanitarian reasons
08:31 matey; i mean it was better than hitler staying in power
08:31 kate; wasnt it?
08:31 matey; that doesnt mean it was done out of the goodness of anyones heart
08:31 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> NATO Chief Warns Russian War on Ukraine Could "Last for Years" https://truthout.org/articles/nato-chief-warns-russian-war-on-ukraine-could-last-for-years/ | Source: TruthOut
08:31 schestowitz_TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- truthout.org | NATO Chief Warns Russian War on Ukraine Could "Last for Years"
08:31 TR Bot; NATO Chief Warns Russian War on Ukraine Could "Last for Years"
08:31 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> NATO for war industry https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/19/death-toll-climbs-nato-chief-warns-russian-war-ukraine-could-last-years | Source: Common Dreams
08:32 TR Bot; As Death Toll Climbs, NATO Chief Warns Russian War on Ukraine Could 'Last for Years'
08:32 matey; i mean sometimes opportunism has positive side effects
08:32 matey; one of the positive side effects of american opportunism in wwii was hitler is dead
08:32 matey; i would say "and stalin" but he was probably killed by his own people
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08:32 matey; which was bound to happen anyway
08:32 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> New Cold War With China and Russia https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/19/us-could-lose-new-cold-war-china-and-russia | Source: Common Dreams
08:32 TR Bot; Opinion | The US Could Lose the New Cold War With China and Russia | Joseph Stiglitz
08:33 kate; stalin wasnt killed
08:33 matey; russians always die of natural causes
08:33 schestowitz; https://truthout.org/articles/revolting-senate-panel-raises-bidens-bloated-military-budget-by-45-billion/
08:33 TR Bot; 'Revolting': Senate Panel Raises Biden's Bloated Military Budget by $45 Billion
08:34 matey; especially the politically important ones
08:34 kate; hitler was the best think the alies had
08:34 matey; what, an excuse?
08:34 kate; imagine a competent leader
08:35 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> Ukraine https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/19/diplomacy-ruled-out-ukraine-war | Source: Common Dreams
08:35 TR Bot; Opinion | Diplomacy Ruled Out in Ukraine War | David Barsamian
08:35 schestowitz_TR; those are from this morning BTW
08:35 schestowitz_TR; I'm not using "old" news
08:37 matey; i had hoped the senate would be above this sort of money grab for the military
08:37 matey; but who are we kidding
08:37 matey; theyve been siphoning the next 5 dgenerations of taxpayer money to corporations since 2020
08:37 kate; Diplomacy Rules Out War
08:37 kate; what else is news?
08:38 matey; if anything it was the militarys turn to get overpaid
08:38 matey; as long as theres no potato famine, america should be okay
08:38 kate; other wise they just be making them selfs look like incompetent fools
08:38 matey; if the potatoes go, theyre fucked
08:39 kate; that the same as the police saying theres no more criminals
08:41 kate; thats bad marketing
08:41 schestowitz_TR; <kate> Diplomacy Rules Out War
08:41 schestowitz_TR; bad for profits
08:41 schestowitz_TR; US needs a war right now
08:41 schestowitz_TR; the economy is roting away
08:42 schestowitz_TR; the zero-sum mindset says, let's make Russian equally weak
08:42 schestowitz_TR; or China for that matter
08:42 matey; what if war isnt enough to save the economy?
08:42 kate; the economy was doing alot better before the war
08:42 schestowitz_TR; it is nnot to save the economy
08:42 schestowitz_TR; the rich want to stay rich
08:42 schestowitz_TR; the war helps justify hyperinflation
08:42 matey; /me seriously hopes roy is a better military / economic strategist than a free software one
08:43 matey; otherwise we might as well start speaking russian
08:43 kate; yes they prefer inflation to recession ive seen it on tv
08:43 schestowitz_TR; isn't this a false dichotomy, kate ?
08:43 schestowitz_TR; purchasing power is down
08:43 schestowitz_TR; people buy LESS
08:44 schestowitz_TR; salary going down
08:44 matey; <kate> yes they prefer inflation to recession <- thats true
08:44 kate; recession bad for capitalists inflation is the poor that pay
08:44 matey; inflation robs the poor and gives to the rich
08:44 kate; recession capitalists lose inflation is the poor that pay
08:44 matey; anything that hurts the poor more than the rich can be referred to as "profit" all things being equal
08:45 matey; <kate> recession capitalists lose inflation is the poor that pay <- this
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08:47 schestowitz_TR; kate: only in relative terms
08:47 matey; roys phd isnt in economics
08:48 schestowitz_TR; inflation generally hurts the poor more
08:48 kate; yes so...
08:48 matey; he still thinks bankruptcy is for corporations not individuals
08:48 matey; he has it backwards
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08:49 kate; everything is relative
08:49 matey; <schestowitz_TR> inflation generally hurts the poor more <- that was our point
08:49 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166239
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08:49 schestowitz_TR; but that's connected to recession
08:49 schestowitz_TR; inflation is a policy
08:49 schestowitz_TR; or caused by policy
08:50 schestowitz_TR; recession is more of a condition
08:50 matey; and you think its not caused by policy?
08:50 schestowitz_TR; exacerbated by it
08:50 kate; if you have 10 bilion or you have 1 billion what actually changes in you life stile?
08:50 schestowitz_TR; but the central banks set interest rates
08:51 matey; i mean you could say the entire economy is a chain reaction of "conditions" and "policies"
08:51 matey; but the central banks set interest rates <- based on what, conditions?
08:52 kate; you might buy more people with 1 billion under inflation that with 10 billion if everyone doing fine
08:52 matey; inflation is perhaps, a policy created by conditions
08:52 matey; while recession is perhaps, a condition created by policies
08:53 matey; potato, potahto
08:53 matey; its a chain reaction of institutionalised poverty that benefits the rich at the expense of the rest
08:53 matey; and each stage is connected to the previous one more or less
08:54 kate; you cant belive what people are able to put up if they dont have enough to eat
08:54 kate; and its nnot a question of numbers
08:54 kate; it taakes little to tipe that sacles
08:55 kate; while for the wealthy nothing much changes
08:55 kate; other then having more servents
08:55 matey; sometimes they have to rename things or shuffle properties around
08:55 matey; im sure its very traumatic
08:56 matey; sooner or later they all have to self-medicate with cocaine and/or orgies
08:57 matey; or buy a new yacht to make themselves feel better
08:57 kate; or go to space
08:57 matey; just get away for a while
08:57 matey; they should stay in space imo
08:57 matey; dont come back
08:57 kate; they might take you on on that
08:58 matey; theyll be glad they did when their crews turn on them
08:58 kate; at least you are protected from nuclear radiation
08:58 matey; better if they have robot crews, they can see how well bad ideas design things
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 kate; why would the crew turn on them
08:59 matey; we can take bets on this
08:59 matey; the crew will turn on them
08:59 kate; the crew is also in the 0.00 percent
08:59 kate; the crew is also in the 0.0000001 percent
09:00 matey; you think they got there without eating their own?
09:00 matey; you think rich people love each other and work together sustainably?
09:00 kate; i bet they will be cerfully selected
09:00 matey; carefully enough?
09:00 kate; by expert psycologists
09:00 matey; roy is an expert psychologist
09:01 matey; he can choose the crews
09:02 kate; psychologist if hes willing to break the ethos he could
09:03 matey; if those experts were operating at full, they would have told the ceos to stop being bastards
09:03 matey; so theyve already compromised
09:04 matey; capitalism != sanity
09:04 matey; if anything its closer to a cluster b personality disorder
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09:13 schestowitz_TR; matey: it's hardly even capitalism
09:13 schestowitz_TR; it's a straw man they use
09:13 schestowitz_TR; saying you oppose capitalism if you condemn feudalism
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09:15 matey; it's a straw man they use <- saying you oppose capitalism if you condemn feudalism <- this is just noise
09:16 matey; capitalism starts out as a refutation of feudalism
09:16 matey; in that sense its actually progress
09:16 matey; but in the long run it eats the world
09:16 matey; when people actually oppose capitalism, thats not a straw man
09:17 matey; sort of like godwins law (though stupid and useless) was never intended to apply to actual nazis
09:17 kate; capitalism starts out as a refutation of feudalism - the more things change the more they become the same
09:18 matey; the more things change the more they become the same <- convergent evolution
09:18 kate; capitalism tends to monoply
09:18 matey; capitalism tends to monoply <- and thats what we have (too much of) now
09:18 kate; so the king might have liked it
09:19 matey; capitalism started as a refutation of feudalism
09:19 matey; but today acts like a recreation of it (in capitalisms own image)
09:19 matey; now capitalism is a refutation of capitalism
09:20 matey; the same way it refuted feudalism in the beginning
09:21 matey; it has outlived its usefulness as what used to be a step forward
09:22 matey; as what used to be <- a long fucking time ago
09:22 matey; and just like every crazy ex that used to be something nice in your life
09:23 kate; capitalism needs competition
09:23 matey; it ultimately pretends that your only choices are to stay or go "back" to life before you met them
09:23 kate; thats why in the usa you got 2 of each thing
09:23 matey; and there is no "forward" apart from the status quo
09:23 matey; thats why in the usa you got 2 of each thing <- its not really 2 though
09:24 matey; its the illusion of choice
09:24 kate; coke /pepsi dems/reps mac/bking
09:24 matey; "weve got both kinds! country, AND western!"
09:24 kate; but one always best the other
09:25 matey; mac/bking / tasty period!
09:25 kate; apple/android
09:26 kate; colgate/pepsodent
09:27 kate; you need that because of coke/pepsi
09:28 matey; Patent filings showed "Fun and Tasty" and "The Same One" as some of the possible brand names for the firm taking over
09:28 matey; "the same one" XD
09:28 matey; we had to change it to the same one!
09:28 matey; but then we realised that was insame!
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09:30 kate; your craazy
09:31 matey; thanks
09:31 kate; goodcop/badcop
09:32 matey; acab
09:32 kate; what?
09:32 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAB
09:32 TR Bot; ACAB - Wikipedia
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09:37 kate; do you think the Russians will be satisfied once they reach the denipro?
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09:37 matey; do you think the Russians will be satisfied once they reach the denipro? <- i dont think they even want to be there or know why theyre there
09:38 matey; i read a book about the invasion of haiti once
09:38 matey; which happened for similar reasons
09:38 kate; i meant putin
09:38 matey; oh him?
09:38 matey; hes completely nucking futs
09:38 matey; the only thing that will satisfy him is if the spacemen come back to collect him
09:39 matey; this is not an allusion to lizard people
09:39 matey; only the fact that putin is nuts
09:39 matey; anyway the book was written by someone in special forces
09:39 matey; and they went there to do a job
09:39 matey; but they sure didnt know why they were doing it
09:40 matey; or what the point was
09:40 matey; and it was never made really clear what the fuck was going on
09:40 matey; what the real mission was, what the end goals were
09:40 matey; etc
09:40 matey; i suspect thats what the russian military is going through right now
09:40 matey; i mean, theyre at least trying not to get killed, they can figure that part of the objective out
09:41 matey; but the rest is a mystery
09:41 matey; i dont think the official story holds up even with them
09:41 matey; so theyre like "wtf is this"
09:42 kate; Theirs Not to Reason Why, Theirs But to Do and Die
09:42 matey; well thats nice on paper
09:42 matey; but if you actually subject people to it, they can become pretty curious
09:42 matey; i think on a much smaller scale, people are becoming curious about free software
09:42 matey; like
09:43 kate; thats a misscote
09:43 matey; what the fuck are we doing this for, if its mostly ibm and microsoft who control it
09:43 kate; Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is just to do or die.
09:43 matey; same idea though
09:43 kate; no
09:44 matey; same people, same quandry
09:44 kate; do or die != Do and Die
09:44 matey; oh fair enough
09:44 matey; sure
09:45 matey; but even if its "do or die"
09:45 matey; they do AND die
09:45 matey; because "damned if you do, damned if you dont"
09:46 kate; also no witness
09:48 kate; thare wouldnt be any book if that happend
09:50 matey; i suppose thats the difference between some of them dying and all of them dying
09:51 kate; you make sure all of them fie
09:51 kate; die
09:52 matey; thats not always cost effective
09:52 matey; and caesar for example, found it wasteful
09:52 matey; better to decimate and enslave than wipe out
09:52 matey; strategically speaking
09:52 matey; the fsf is still standing
09:52 kate; bacause there was no war crimes trials back then
09:53 matey; its just decimated and become about serving corporations
09:53 matey; bacause there was no war crimes trials back then <- there arent that many now
09:53 matey; bush still hangs out with ellen degenerous
09:53 matey; blair still does spots on television
09:53 matey; putin still goes to tasty period
09:54 kate; is it time to start buying BTC?
09:55 matey; no, id say its time to start reading "a revolution betrayed"
09:55 kate; not much point after the silkroad whent fown i recoon
09:57 matey; i mean cryptocurrency doesnt magically shield you from the dea, if thats what people think
09:58 matey; as if financial transactions were the only way drug sales could be tracked and disrupted
09:58 matey; and even if you could do that entirely covertly
09:58 matey; that theyll be like "well shit, i guess they thought of everything!"
09:59 matey; they try to "encrypt" drugs with hot sauce etc
09:59 matey; but there are no cryptodrugs yet that you can just download
10:00 kate; will BTC crash stop ransomware?
10:00 matey; why would it?
10:00 matey; scams existed before btc
10:00 kate; ransomware is always paid in BTC
10:00 matey; they can do ransomware with gift cards
10:01 kate; good luck with that
10:01 matey; its not an ambition of mine personally
10:01 matey; how are you going to crash cryptocurrency?
10:01 kate; i wasnt talking about you
10:02 kate; you really are craazy
10:02 matey; i was also speaking rhetorically
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10:03 matey; i do talk to a lot of silly people online
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10:03 kate; me too im talking to you
10:03 matey; maybe we are both crazy then
10:04 kate; at least im not silly
10:04 matey; how do you know?
10:04 kate; if im silly im on pourpose
10:04 kate; so it doesnt count
10:05 matey; alright
10:05 matey; how do you know im not on purpose?
10:05 kate; cause that would be silly
10:05 matey; ahh
10:05 matey; o its silly if i do it on purpose
10:05 matey; but if you do it doesnt count
10:05 kate; ye
10:05 matey; i can tell youre doing it on purpose
10:06 matey; either that, or youre being silly
10:06 kate; im not sally im kate!
10:07 kate; see i did that on pourpose
10:07 matey; i was going to say but there was a risk of recursion
10:07 matey; and i dont know how large the stack is on ergo ircd
10:09 kate; now nobody can name a child sally cause of what i just did
10:09 matey; i guess people naming their children will have to lay down sally then
10:09 kate; other kids will bullie sally calling her silly
10:09 matey; and sally forth
10:10 matey; but people who wanted to name their kid sally might be salty
10:10 matey; and then we will all be sorry
10:10 kate; salty you mean like the sweet alot?
10:12 kate; and they don't bathe
10:12 matey; https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=salty
10:12 TR Bot; Urban Dictionary: salty
10:13 kate; salty is american for sour ?
10:13 matey; i dont know if its an american term
10:13 matey; i think of it as "internet"
10:14 kate; i do
10:14 kate; A term originating from the United States Navy, used to describe disgruntled senior enlisted members. Also used to describe someone who has sea experience from a prior deployment, for whom the romanticized idea of ship life is gone, and replaced with sea salt.
10:14 matey; A term originating from the United States Navy <- i dont know if thats true
10:14 kate; im pretty sure its true
10:14 matey; also the navy could have picked that up anywhere
10:15 matey; being the navy and all that
10:15 kate; maybe from the britsh navy
10:15 kate; crackers are also salty
10:16 matey; what about the unsalted ones?
10:16 kate; couse that was only what they had to eat in the navy
10:16 kate; salty crackers makes you salty
10:16 kate; the unsalted ones? are only for the officer
10:17 matey; i suppose thats better than limes making you limey
10:18 matey; if you make something salty and limey youre getting steadily closer to a margarita
10:22 TR News; Sparkfun unveils microSD Data Logging Shield with SPI and USB-C interfaces https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfun-unveils-microsd-data-logging-shield-with-spi-and-usb-c-interfaces/ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | Linux
10:22 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfun-unveils-microsd-data-logging-shield-with-spi-and-usb-c-interfaces/ )
10:23 TR News; Manjaro 21.3.0 'Ruah' Release Adds Latest Calmares 3.2, GNOME 42, and More Upgrades - It's FOSS News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34068
10:23 TR Bot; Manjaro 21.3 "Ruah" Brings Refreshed Desktop Environments | Tux Machines
10:25 TR News; ICMB on Diversity in IT: 3 key components to enable meaningful change https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/diversity-it-3-ways-enable-meaningful-change http://techrights.org/2019/11/28/diversity-forms/
10:25 TR Bot; Diversity in IT: 3 key components to enable meaningful change | The Enterprisers Project
10:25 TR Bot; Diversity Comes in Many Forms | Techrights
10:25 TR News; #HowTo Change Default Root Directory of Apache Web Server Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166241
10:25 TR Bot; How to Change Default Root Directory of Apache Web Server | Tux Machines
10:26 TR News; ICBM takes advice of McKinsey, where Jim AllowHurst came from https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/digital-transformation-maximize-customer-experience
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10:26 TR Bot; Digital transformation: Maximize customer experience in 3 steps | The Enterprisers Project
10:27 schestowitz_TR; <kate> salty is american for sour ?
10:28 schestowitz_TR; I don't think the distinction is a regnial one
10:28 schestowitz_TR; *regional
10:28 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 19, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/irc-log-190622/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/irc-log-190622/
10:28 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 19, 2022 | Techrights
10:29 schestowitz_TR; https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=salty
10:29 TR Bot; Urban Dictionary: salty
10:30 schestowitz_TR; ""A term originating from the United States Navy, used to describe disgruntled senior enlisted members.
10:30 schestowitz_TR; Oh, same as the refence you used
10:30 schestowitz_TR; same quote, too
10:30 schestowitz_TR; sea salt.
10:32 schestowitz_TR; <kate> ransomware is always paid in BTC
10:32 schestowitz_TR; maybe tranditionally
10:33 schestowitz_TR; the currency can be non-material/immaterial and something like an action
10:33 schestowitz_TR; like "do this" and I give you back your data
10:33 schestowitz_TR; e.g. "give me your nudes"
10:34 schestowitz_TR; re "capitalism starts out as a refutation of feudalism"
10:34 schestowitz_TR; This is a new concept to me
10:35 kate; dont you think that with all this cheap microchips we will all be living inside a robot?
10:35 schestowitz_TR; from what I understand
10:35 schestowitz_TR; 1. feudalism never wett away
10:35 schestowitz_TR; robber barons just spreads their wealth to many offspring
10:35 schestowitz_TR; and some went low-profile
10:35 schestowitz_TR; the feudal system and capitalist system are in practice almost the same
10:36 schestowitz_TR; kate: I don't understand that statement
10:36 kate; think about it
10:37 schestowitz_TR; I think LSDheads who choose Apple went overboard
10:37 kate; the machines will be all round us
10:37 schestowitz_TR; and now harp about x-verse
10:37 schestowitz_TR; kate: not all of us
10:37 schestowitz_TR; there are more connected devices, sure...
10:37 schestowitz_TR; but some people push back
10:38 kate; have you eard about the plastic chips that cost less then a penny
10:38 schestowitz_TR; it's a waste of energy and waste of potential human capacity
10:38 kate; you will be earing a robot
10:38 schestowitz_TR; kate: it's not about price at this point
10:38 schestowitz_TR; in fact, to use it costs MORE just NOT to have those microdevices
10:39 schestowitz_TR; like "smart meters"
10:39 kate; you got an android in your pocket at all times
10:39 schestowitz_TR; most people do not
10:39 schestowitz_TR; we need to keep it that way
10:39 kate; most people fo
10:39 kate; do
10:39 schestowitz_TR; 4 billion people use android or ios?
10:40 kate; you just need to be close to someone with an pocket robot to be under the influence
10:40 TR News; What is PPID on Linux? gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-06-19-parent-process-id.gmi
10:40 kate; the robot will say dont pick your nose you will be fined
10:40 schestowitz_TR; that's true
10:41 schestowitz_TR; esp. now that these record the surroundings
10:41 schestowitz_TR; and cars that are "new" come with such stuff
10:41 schestowitz_TR; when I said that's true
10:41 schestowitz_TR; I meant something else
10:41 schestowitz_TR; not the noise-picking thing
10:41 schestowitz_TR; *nose
10:41 kate; just an exemple
10:41 schestowitz_TR; FB is used as an example
10:42 schestowitz_TR; even if you are not "in" FB
10:42 schestowitz_TR; if someone in the house takes photos of you, then you ARE "in" FB
10:42 schestowitz_TR; never mind cookie tracking of non-users
10:42 kate; you should use google as exemple
10:42 schestowitz_TR; Gulag tracks all Web users
10:42 schestowitz_TR; they are hard to avoid, not with fonts and all
10:42 schestowitz_TR; *now
10:42 schestowitz_TR; and their browsers (plural)
10:43 kate; i cant find any site with out google
10:43 schestowitz_TR; Gulag Inc.Alphabet is a giant waste of energy and Hubris
10:43 kate; google links
10:43 schestowitz_TR; it needs to get back to its stanford roots
10:43 matey; the feudal system and capitalist system are in practice almost the same <- practice must ignore the ways in which they are different then
10:43 schestowitz_TR; when it was actually a search engine
10:43 kate; you already said that
10:44 matey; either way, capitalism becomes more and more like what it replaced
10:44 matey; which means the distinction matters less and less
10:44 schestowitz_TR; when did capitalism "start"
10:44 schestowitz_TR; and what did it "replace"?
10:44 schestowitz_TR; honest questions
10:44 matey; thats still not the same as the distinction never existing in the first place, but now its not so important
10:44 matey; and what did it "replace"? <- feudalism?
10:45 schestowitz_TR; wen did feudalism "end"?
10:45 schestowitz_TR; and where?
10:45 kate; capitalism is better cause in feudalism you got lots of feudal lords and with capitalism you got very few
10:45 schestowitz_TR; people like to think it's an old thing
10:45 schestowitz_TR; same for monarchy
10:45 matey; when/where <- somewhere/when around capitalism
10:45 schestowitz_TR; it's a lot of optics, moderate perceived change
10:45 matey; i think brits can tell the difference between monarchy and parliament, really
10:46 matey; go back to when nhs was formed
10:46 matey; and explain how that would have happened under monarchy, if you would
10:46 schestowitz_TR; right
10:46 schestowitz_TR; but we head backwards
10:46 schestowitz_TR; to impunity
10:46 schestowitz_TR; lobbyists controlling politicians
10:46 schestowitz_TR; and while I can say queen liz is a parasite without being arrested
10:46 kate; monarchy also need the subjects to be ealthy
10:46 schestowitz_TR; if you go "too far" they extradite you to the US to die
10:47 matey; its the same, only much less
10:47 matey; almost to the point where you call it something else
10:47 kate; monarchy loves parliament cause its them being blamed for all the crap
10:47 matey; but when it outlives its usefulness, it starts to get back to something more like what it started with
10:48 kate; ~while the monarch stads above and pure
10:48 schestowitz_TR; you rarely see any anti-monarchy politicians
10:48 schestowitz_TR; not unnless this is closeted
10:48 schestowitz_TR; even corbyn sucked up to the monarchy
10:48 schestowitz_TR; while the queens son got sucked
10:48 schestowitz_TR; in the lolita express\
10:49 schestowitz_TR; some socttish politicians wanted to leave
10:49 matey; i wouldnt know where diplomacy began and capitulation ended in terms of the british left
10:49 schestowitz_TR; but they rarely brought up monarchy
10:49 schestowitz_TR; the parliament in hollyrood is across the road from a queen's 'second home'
10:49 matey; but i presume theres a line even if there isnt much of one
10:49 schestowitz_TR; my mom went there with my wife
10:49 matey; hooray for hollyrood
10:50 matey; or should that be hooway
10:50 schestowitz_TR; in edinburgh accent
10:50 schestowitz_TR; heavy-tongued R
10:50 matey; geography was never my strong point and probably never will be
10:51 kate; you saing that cause schestowitz mom went there?
10:51 matey; no, its a spoonerism
10:51 schestowitz_TR; they let visitors see it
10:51 schestowitz_TR; it's a PR strategy
10:51 schestowitz_TR; I refused to go in
10:51 schestowitz_TR; went for a walk
10:51 kate; your loss
10:52 schestowitz_TR; I have photos from that afternoon
10:52 schestowitz_TR; http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Edinburgh/Holyrood-Palace-and-Park
10:52 TR Bot; Holyrood Palace and Park
10:52 schestowitz_TR; Germany does the same
10:52 schestowitz_TR; opening up the monarch stuff to tourists
10:52 schestowitz_TR; sometimes free of charge
10:53 matey; lifestyles of the rich and useless
10:53 kate; i9 think they used alot
10:53 schestowitz_TR; they need to project wealth and power
10:53 schestowitz_TR; to earn "respect"
10:53 matey; okay
10:53 schestowitz_TR; you don't want to get caught with a non-"luxury" car
10:54 matey; lifestyles of the rich and usemore
10:54 schestowitz_TR; rich in 2022 and in 22 is not the same
10:54 kate; being rich is a full time job
10:54 schestowitz_TR; bc was like "no baths"
10:54 schestowitz_TR; in some parts of the world it is still "no baths"
10:55 schestowitz_TR; baths are not the most important thing
10:55 schestowitz_TR; but we've come to assume even the poorest can bathe
10:57 schestowitz_TR; this is one way they vaccinate the masses against class anger, resentment, envy
10:57 schestowitz_TR; "here, hvae your food safety"
10:57 schestowitz_TR; "wheat susidies and food banks"
10:58 schestowitz_TR; "some people don't even ahve that"
10:58 schestowitz_TR; "x years ago people did not have that; you are lucky"
10:58 schestowitz_TR; "but the human mind does not work like that
10:58 schestowitz_TR; ralativism compared to one's environment
10:58 schestowitz_TR; one way to tackle this is to encourage people to be modest
10:58 schestowitz_TR; no avarice
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
10:59 schestowitz_TR; and that reduces class tensions
10:59 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QwnCxUOkJDo
10:59 TR Bot; Villagers taking bath outside - Invidious
11:00 matey; one way to tackle this is to encourage people to be modest <- that doesnt really tackle anything
11:00 matey; its a superficial reform
11:01 matey; the church has been "encouaraging people to be modest" for > 2000 years
11:01 schestowitz_TR; exactly my point
11:01 matey; <schestowitz_TR> and that reduces class tensions
11:01 matey; i guess i misread
11:01 schestowitz_TR; one trick is the "hot bath"/"food safety" line
11:02 schestowitz_TR; I saw it used when I confronted right wingers in person
11:02 schestowitz_TR; they like to be apologists for extreme inequality
11:02 schestowitz_TR; everything else is "communism" to themn
11:02 matey; one trick is the "hot bath"/"food safety" line <- you mean providing food and water to people that dont have it?
11:02 schestowitz_TR; the chuch pulls another one off the sleev
11:02 schestowitz_TR; it uses heaven, like deferred debt
11:03 schestowitz_TR; "we'll pay after yo die"
11:03 schestowitz_TR; matey: no, they say you should be thankful for the basics
11:04 schestowitz_TR; while some of them amass planes and go to space
11:04 schestowitz_TR; we should be thankful to have a boiler in the home
11:04 schestowitz_TR; and sip tea
11:04 schestowitz_TR; then there is the "war and peace" line
11:04 schestowitz_TR; but for many it's a daily struggle (War) just to make ends meet
11:05 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> US poverty https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/23/the-persistence-of-childhood-poverty-in-the-us/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:05 TR Bot; Persistence of Childhood Poverty in the US - CounterPunch.org
11:05 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> "Asset poverty is the lack of assets that can be used to support oneself for three months. Such assets to do not be to be liquid, such as cash: a house or other real estate, a spare car, stocks, and possessions that hold value such a jewelry or furniture are also included." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202205/20220524-asset-poverty.gmi
11:05 schestowitz_TR; new: <techrights-news> "Poverty Is Violence!" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/18/poverty-violence-thousands-demonstrators-dc-demand-economic-justice | Source: Common Dreams
11:05 TR Bot; 'Poverty Is Violence!' Thousands of Demonstrators in DC Demand Economic Justice
11:05 kate; the poors shouldnt have children they cant aford
11:06 schestowitz_TR; also new: <techrights-news> "Ukraine inherited none of the Soviet Unions debt, just as Scotland will inherit none of the United Kingdoms debt" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/06/no-debt/ | Source: Craig Murra
11:06 TR Bot; No Debt - Craig Murray
11:06 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> Gig Labor Is Impoverishing Workers https://jacobin.com/2022/06/gig-workers-report-economic-precarity-independent-contracting-misclassification/ Source: jacobin
11:06 TR Bot; Gig Labor Is Impoverishing Workers
11:06 schestowitz_TR; I have friends who can only net short-term contracts
11:06 kate; to have a child you need to have 100$ in the bank
11:06 schestowitz_TR; and then get stressed about getting the next "job" (contract)
11:06 kate; to have a child you need to have 100000$ in the bank
11:07 matey; <kate> the poors shouldnt have children they cant aford <- the riches shouldnt steal from the poors
11:07 matey; then the "poors" might be able to afford it (but probably not with what shit costs these days)
11:07 schestowitz_TR; kate: people who can conceive usually have student debt
11:07 schestowitz_TR; so provide public higher education
11:08 schestowitz_TR; after the time they pay back the debt and build soms savings going into labour is more risky, both to parent snd child
11:08 kate; poor: but coulnt aford condoms
11:08 matey; maybe missing the point a bit
11:08 schestowitz_TR; contraception is only part of it
11:09 matey; if the economy wasnt bullshit, reproduction wouldnt be a luxury item
11:09 schestowitz_TR; same for social distancing
11:09 schestowitz_TR; abortion access is also a luxiry
11:09 schestowitz_TR; *luxury
11:09 kate; the rich on the other hand shouldnrt have less then 10 children
11:09 kate; so they could pass along the good genes
11:09 schestowitz_TR; they are not good genes
11:09 schestowitz_TR; it's a common insinuation that is insulting
11:10 kate; the sucessfull genes that makes one rich
11:10 matey; they might have been before all the inbreeding
11:10 schestowitz_TR; they become rich very often due to lackk of empathy
11:10 schestowitz_TR; so you don't want to pass on such traits
11:10 matey; then they shouldnt adopt either
11:10 schestowitz_TR; they only convince themselves and pay the media to project an elevated sense of the self
11:10 matey; because a lot of that is upbringing, not genetics
11:10 schestowitz_TR; promoting eugenics is a slippery slop
11:10 schestowitz_TR; *sloep
11:10 kate; people look up to rich and succefull people
11:11 schestowitz_TR; not all people
11:11 schestowitz_TR; also:
11:11 schestowitz_TR; rich and successful are not the same thing
11:11 schestowitz_TR; those are sometimes opposites
11:11 schestowitz_TR; some people compensate for failings by amassing wealth
11:11 kate; for said people it is
11:11 schestowitz_TR; even by illegal means
11:11 matey; especially with the lottery
11:11 schestowitz_TR; ok, bbl
11:13 kate; people that win the lotter offten become poor cause they lacking the genes and education
11:13 matey; what do genes have to do with it
11:13 TR News; Microsoft acknowledges that a Windows 11 update is causing serious connection issues https://betanews.com/2022/06/19/microsoft-acknowledges-that-a-windows-11-update-is-causing-serious-connection-issues/
11:13 TR Bot; Microsoft acknowledges that a Windows 11 update is causing serious connection issues
11:14 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166242
11:14 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:14 kate; the genes that makes you rich
11:14 matey; oh yes
11:14 matey; those genes
11:14 kate; you can only go so far with good will
11:14 matey; its unfortunate that the lottery-winning genes and the being-rich genes are two separate genetic markers
11:15 matey; if you want to be rich from the lottery you need both
11:15 schestowitz_TR; refutation of eugenics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty
11:15 TR Bot; Cycle of poverty - Wikipedia
11:15 kate; theres no lottery-winning genes
11:15 matey; thats the joke, yes
11:15 kate; but theres a gambling gene
11:15 matey; theres no being rich gene either obviously
11:16 matey; but if there were, its obviously separate from the lottery winning gene
11:16 kate; being rich gene no
11:16 matey; otherwise everyone who was rich would win the lottery
11:16 matey; and everyone who won the lottery would be rich
11:16 schestowitz_TR; the richest person in history was not smart
11:16 kate; but if you lack the rich gene you will only become rich if you get lucky
11:16 matey; but i suppose it could be latent
11:16 matey; like webbed feet
11:17 kate; its actually a set of genes
11:17 kate; like the hoarding gene
11:17 matey; yeah they only come in pairs
11:17 matey; im not sure about jeggings though
11:17 kate; the drive gene
11:17 TR News; ...haha, the "metaverse" BS. Keep helping Mark and Sandbag distract from all the harm they do to society, for profit... https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/the-battle-to-build-a-child-friendly-metaverse/92326615?redirect=1
11:17 TR Bot; Metaverse: The battle to build a child-friendly metaverse, CIO News, ET CIO
11:17 matey; the walk gene
11:17 kate; the psycopath gene
11:18 matey; the quack like a duck gene
11:18 kate; now this one i know for sure
11:18 TR News; Gulag chooses the world's biggest prison (over 10 million female inmates) for its gulag/DC https://www.dw.com/en/google-cloud-plans-in-saudi-arabia-risk-lives/a-62169467
11:18 TR Bot; data plans in Saudi Arabia will risk lives: activists | Middle East | News and analysis of events in the Arab world | DW | 18.06.2022
11:18 matey; the have a banana gene
11:18 kate; you can detect psycopathic people using MRI
11:19 matey; another way to detect a psychopath is to put them in a group of normal people
11:19 TR News; Access Nows submission to Indias Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology on the National Data Governance Framework Policy. [PDF] https://www.accessnow.org/submission-national-data-governance-framework-policy-india
11:19 matey; if they kill everyone for no reason, theyre a psychopath
11:19 kate; genetics is 9 tenths of the law
11:19 matey; the other 1 percent is eugenicist idiots
11:19 matey; 10 percent
11:20 schestowitz_TR; True -> <matey> another way to detect a psychopath is to put them in a group of normal people
11:20 kate; call it what you will you cant beat nature
11:20 matey; what do you call a fucking plane then
11:20 matey; if men were meant to fly god would have given them wings
11:20 *matey has quit (connection closed)
11:21 schestowitz_TR; <matey> what do you call a fucking plane then
11:21 schestowitz_TR; The :Lolita Express"
11:21 kate; yopu only meant to fly after you die
11:21 schestowitz_TR; Our queens's son knows more
11:21 *matey (~matey@2kk6i2ed9nk9s.irc) has joined #techrights
11:22 matey; tada
11:22 schestowitz_TR; lavitation, not flsying
11:22 matey; the levetation gene
11:22 matey; levant
11:22 matey; levit
11:22 matey; lavatation-- the going to the bathroom gene
11:22 matey; or the molten rock gene
11:23 TR News; "When it comes to sort out your emails, there are many strategies. Since I have been working at W3C, I'm a fan of dated spaces. I apply this strategy to my emails using Sieve." https://www.otsukare.info/2022/06/20/dated-space-mailbox-with-sieve
11:23 TR Bot; Filter your mail in a dated space server side with Sieve - otsukare
11:23 matey; its embarassing when those wires get crossed
11:23 matey; because the toilet melts
11:23 kate; with no natural selection at work you have no other option but to enbrace eugenits
11:23 matey; and everyones like "what the hell"
11:23 matey; IM SORRY, ITS GENETIC
11:23 matey; they think its a lifestyle choice
11:24 matey; /me goes to the toilet-melting bar to relax
11:24 kate; its what the internet call a darwin award
11:24 schestowitz_TR; kate: it does not work so simply
11:24 schestowitz_TR; that's like saying science advancing will necessarily improve things
11:24 schestowitz_TR; people used to adhere to this principle until they found out new ways of making bombsd
11:24 schestowitz_TR; and two of them went off by surprise on two cities
11:25 matey; totally unplanned and unexpected
11:25 schestowitz_TR; the idea that "selecting" the frankfen-fish salmon would be good is also debunked
11:25 schestowitz_TR; goood by whose measure
11:25 schestowitz_TR; also, technology leaves a footprint of pollution
11:25 schestowitz_TR; headless mountains and flilthy rivers
11:25 schestowitz_TR; "rich people" are a net loss
11:26 schestowitz_TR; they do more harm than they contribute to their surroundings... all of them
11:26 schestowitz_TR; like a home with 30 bedrooms, and 10 maids
11:26 matey; a milking
11:26 schestowitz_TR; so good luck defining "eu" (good) genes
11:27 schestowitz_TR; a lot of the fastest runners are african
11:27 schestowitz_TR; or of african genes
11:27 schestowitz_TR; if we lived in the wild, they would be the "TOP DAWG"
11:27 schestowitz_TR; money and "success" are not the same
11:28 schestowitz_TR; not everyone srtrives to have more money
11:28 schestowitz_TR; but that's a concept that's hard for some people to grasp
11:28 schestowitz_TR; "why are you in MsF? there's no money in it !!'
11:29 matey; why are you in michigan?
11:29 schestowitz_TR; why do you live in one bedroom?
11:29 schestowitz_TR; why do you drink "normal" tea?
11:30 matey; what are the options there
11:30 schestowitz_TR; a lot of very "successful" [sic] people end up sniffing coke
11:30 schestowitz_TR; matey: the one with the "famous" brand
11:30 matey; whats normal, red rose?
11:30 schestowitz_TR; the one that costs the most on the shelf
11:30 matey; ahh
11:30 kate; the chinese are already inserting smart genes in their babies
11:30 schestowitz_TR; apple adopted this approach
11:31 schestowitz_TR; but apple market to impoosters
11:31 schestowitz_TR; mostly people who just pretend to be rich
11:31 kate; ~the west needs to do also do it or risc losing the competition
11:31 matey; marisol
11:31 matey; it used to be karen, but now karen looks like mother theresa
11:31 schestowitz_TR; I knew people who would save for like a year just to buy those portable fashion/class accessories
11:31 kate; who is marisol?
11:32 matey; this is why they have credit/financing
11:32 schestowitz_TR; during that year the sweatshop worker made that much in salaries
11:32 matey; not to mention mortgages!
11:32 schestowitz_TR; mort
11:32 matey; the sweatshop worker made that much in salaries <- possibly less
11:32 schestowitz_TR; mort means "success" :-)
11:32 schestowitz_TR; mort is heaven
11:33 schestowitz_TR; matey: iirc, latest iphone is about 1200 pounds
11:33 schestowitz_TR; 100 pounds a month
11:33 schestowitz_TR; in china you get more per month
11:33 schestowitz_TR; but china too is outsourcing to "poor" places
11:33 matey; fucking nuts
11:33 matey; of course it is basically a computer
11:33 matey; only smaller
11:33 schestowitz_TR; yeah
11:33 schestowitz_TR; and patents
11:33 schestowitz_TR; and marketing surplus
11:33 matey; and logos
11:34 matey; but the difference is
11:34 matey; buying a computer every year is insane
11:34 matey; unless its a cheap used pos
11:34 kate; the sweatshop worker shoulf be gald hes not starving like their grand fathers
11:34 matey; but apple says, people do
11:34 matey; plus when apps are controlled by the oems
11:34 matey; what choice do you have
11:35 kate; rooting
11:35 matey; you need the latest "start your car" app
11:35 matey; or your car wont start
11:35 matey; hey, we upgraded to nfc
11:35 schestowitz_TR; funny thing is
11:35 schestowitz_TR; they add a lot of software to cars
11:35 schestowitz_TR; software moved notoriously fast
11:35 schestowitz_TR; you won't have spare parts for the car for long
11:35 matey; move fast and break everything
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11:36 schestowitz_TR; if built to old mechanical standards, the car can outlive the sofwware components like 10 tgimes over
11:36 matey; and even if you can get the spare parts
11:36 matey; you still need to purchase a valid license
11:36 schestowitz_TR; those "apps" won't be supposed by oS verrsion+5
11:36 matey; and authenticate with the server
11:36 schestowitz_TR; *supported
11:36 matey; which is operated by a defunct company
11:36 matey; in the phillipines
11:36 schestowitz_TR; android breaks many APIs all the time
11:36 matey; by marisols uncle
11:36 kate; its called telemetry
11:36 schestowitz_TR; for them, it's "old"
11:36 schestowitz_TR; in the mobile world, "old" means 2-3 years
11:36 schestowitz_TR; ancient is like 5
11:36 schestowitz_TR; 10 is miracle
11:37 kate; you are inside the robot
11:37 matey; 20 is terrorism
11:37 schestowitz_TR; nokias
11:37 schestowitz_TR; I know people who still use these
11:38 kate; they are shuting down 2g
11:38 schestowitz_TR; my PDA is 20
11:38 schestowitz_TR; 2g is not even "terrorism" yet
11:38 matey; probably all taliban
11:38 matey; even the term "pda" is 20
11:38 schestowitz_TR; it's just "moracle"
11:38 matey; pda = what people had before "smartphones"
11:39 schestowitz_TR; "what makes them smart?"
11:39 kate; pda= google assist
11:39 schestowitz_TR; them to me: you can nstall apps
11:39 schestowitz_TR; "but on my PDA I can also install... coughs "apps"..."
11:39 matey; smartphone = phone + pda + camera + potato peeler + radar transceiver
11:39 schestowitz_TR; kate: now assistant means listening device
11:39 schestowitz_TR; it wasn't always like that
11:39 matey; laser satellite
11:40 schestowitz_TR; palm PDA can have external camera attached
11:40 schestowitz_TR; I never bought one
11:40 schestowitz_TR; Palm Treo was a phone, too
11:40 matey; /me pictures pitbull with a kodak
11:41 schestowitz_TR; of course Microsoft destroyed the company by then....
11:41 matey; microsoft: the reason we cant have anything nice
11:42 schestowitz_TR; $ sudo nice linux-azure
11:42 matey; dd if=/dev/zero of=linux
11:42 schestowitz_TR; ral package name BTW
11:42 schestowitz_TR; *Real
11:43 matey; all the more reason to get rid of linux
11:45 TR News; "What does that mean? Unlike traditional system administrators, site reliability engineers (SREs) apply solid software engineering principles to their day-to-day work." Just a Web-spacialised sys admin https://opensource.com/article/22/6/introduction-site-reliability-engineering
11:45 TR Bot; you need to know about site reliability engineering | Opensource.com
11:45 TR News; Job titles with "op" in them = posers, bros, imposters, and cargo cultists
11:46 matey; if only the hyperboreans had built their empire underneath linux
11:46 matey; they would have given microsoft what for!
11:47 TR News; Hard to environ much practical use for it other than surveillance or an application with spying as a "side perk" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/20/hybrid-time-of-flight-tof-3d-range-image-sensor-offers-up-to-30-meter-range/
11:47 TR Bot; Hybrid Time-of-Flight (ToF) 3D range image sensor offers up to 30-meter range - CNX Software
11:48 schestowitz_TR; does zemlin make posts in Microsoft Linkedin?
11:48 schestowitz_TR; did he delete only everything in Twitter?
11:48 matey; two things i dont care about enough to check
11:48 schestowitz_TR; worth checking
11:48 schestowitz_TR; could be rather telling
11:48 matey; 1. zemlin 2. linkedin
11:49 matey; i think youre the only person that knows if he still exists
11:49 schestowitz_TR; Sheela Zemlin: Jim, youn should just post in Microsoft platforms
11:49 schestowitz_TR; also to check
11:49 schestowitz_TR; does Jim have a GitHub account
11:49 matey; a lot of people assume he climbed back into his big balloon or glass elevator
11:49 schestowitz_TR; if so, does he have any commits or just blue hair?
11:49 matey; and flew away over oz / the chocolate factory
11:50 matey; i think he has grey hair
11:50 schestowitz_TR; matey> a lot of people assume he climbed
11:50 schestowitz_TR; when he career was failking he considered doing climbing
11:50 schestowitz_TR; literally
11:50 schestowitz_TR; based ion interview with spamnil
11:50 matey; he should have climbed onto the roof
11:51 schestowitz_TR; https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2017/196/Interview-Meet-Jim-Zemlin
11:51 TR Bot; Interview Meet Jim Zemlin Linux Magazine
11:51 schestowitz_TR; "JZ: When Covalent Technologies ended up being acquired by VMware, I kind of started having a midlife crisis. At that time I thought of becoming a chef, a professional rock climber B"
11:51 schestowitz_TR; a professional rock climber
11:51 matey; always fun to be interviewed by your own employees
11:51 matey; theyre not going to play hardball
11:51 schestowitz_TR; if you have a midlife crisis
11:51 matey; hes a little country though
11:51 matey; i mean a little bit country
11:51 schestowitz_TR; then professional rock climbing is our of your league
11:51 schestowitz_TR; those people are super fit
11:52 schestowitz_TR; and he cannot compete... his head is too big
11:52 schestowitz_TR; and thus heavy
11:52 matey; i dunno
11:52 matey; oh, professional
11:52 matey; so no rock climbing in his bathrobe then
11:52 matey; and he has to sign the code of concrete
11:53 matey; of course people who live in glass houses, shouldnt become professional rock climbers
11:53 matey; do his professional rock climbing employers know hes moonlighting as a giant fraud in the tech industry?
11:54 kate; you mean rock linux?
11:54 matey; "so mr zemlin, what brings you in today"
11:55 matey; "well i wanted to become a professional rock climber, and youre the best rock climbing firm around here"
11:55 matey; "and what do you hope to do if youre hired?"
11:55 matey; "well im looking to move up"
11:56 kate; zemlin climbs the kermlin
11:57 kate; Kremlin
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11:59 matey; one area where hes less competitive is speed
11:59 matey; he has to send a tweet from each rock, and that slows him down a bit
11:59 matey; he really does have to though, hes under contract with
11:59 matey; various people who hired him to send a tweet
12:00 matey; hes lucky twitter isnt youtube, otherwise the wrong tweet could get him demonetised
12:00 matey; "dont mention 5g!"
12:00 kate; does twitter pays well?
12:02 matey; this week twitter is giving away 100 free tweets to anyone who tweets that they dislike putin
12:02 matey; its one of their most successful promotions since they moved from 50 characters to 140
12:03 matey; 50 characters was rough, even the url shorteners needed shorteners
12:04 matey; but it was more than enough to tell people all the great things about microsoft
12:04 kate; Apple paid $100 000 to call their Mac OS X (now macOS) system a UNIX officially.
12:05 kate; paid who?
12:05 kate; Open Group company owns copyright to the UNIX term
12:06 kate; UNIX see im a pirate
12:07 kate; UNIX UNIX UNIX i ow Open Group company 300 000$
12:20 *schestowitz_TR back from the sun
12:20 schestowitz_TR; <matey> so no rock climbing in his bathrobe then
12:21 schestowitz_TR; I bet you Zemlin's rock-climbing skills are as good as his japanese
12:21 schestowitz_TR; which he professes to speak... in his Microsoft LinkeIn profile for over a decade
12:21 schestowitz_TR; would be hilarious to ask him something in japanese in a conference
12:21 schestowitz_TR; a very basic question
12:21 schestowitz_TR; and see his reaction
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> yes and for the last 25 years 'reality' tv has taught and instigated the
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> unskilled to gang up on and tear down the skilled
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> it's common in many fields, but is the alpha and omega of tech/high tech
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> due to the spread of microsoftianism
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> or to look at it from an economic perspective,
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/broken-window-fallacy.asp
12:23 TR Bot; The Broken Window Fallacy Definition
12:23 schestowitz_TR; -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- www.investopedia.com | The Broken Window Fallacy Definition
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <schestowitz-TR> Zemlinism
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> those breaking things have ended up with control since money is changing hands
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> and they've fooled much of the public and nearly all of the policticians into
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> playing their game
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> instead of getting real work done
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> LARPers
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> one of the tricks the policitians use here, and presumably elsewhere, is to
12:23 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> place inexperiened, underskilled, borerline incomptent people in charge so that
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> they 1) know they are in over their heads and therefore 2) are 100% beholden to
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> the politician for continued employment
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> Zemlin is one example
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/391717-steve-jobs-has-a-saying-that-a-players-hire-a
12:24 TR Bot; Quote by Guy Kawasaki: Steve Jobs has a saying that A players hire A p...
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> The effect is pervasive through society and there are not enough skilled
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> professionals in enough places for things to run adequately. With further
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> decline they will not run at all and, having pulled up the ladder already,
12:24 schestowitz_TR; <Techrights-sec2> society will implode without any kind of fallback position to build up
12:24 TR News; Devices/Embedded: SparkFun, Banana Pi, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166243
12:24 TR Bot; Devices/Embedded: SparkFun, Banana Pi, and More | Tux Machines
12:26 TR News; [Old] Switching to Linux OS isn't as scary as you think https://www.laptopmag.com/features/switching-to-linux-os-isnt-as-scary-as-you-think
12:26 TR Bot; Switching to Linux OS isn't as scary as you think here's why | Laptop Mag
12:27 TR News; Unbelievable: A single-file web server that runs on six OSes - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/20/redbean_2_a_singlefile_web/ Source: theregister
12:27 TR Bot; Unbelievable: A single-file web server that runs on six OSes The Register
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:36 TR News; Many sites with very extensive RSS feeds support go out of their way to HIDE those feeds. Very bad...
12:36 TR News; ShaRPiKeebo mini Linux computer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166244
12:36 TR Bot; ShaRPiKeebo mini Linux computer | Tux Machines
12:39 TR News; ShaRPiKeebo mini Linux computer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166244
12:39 TR News; Raspberry Pi Zumo robot Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166245
12:39 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Zumo robot | Tux Machines
12:39 TR News; Feedburner ended up as experiment for Gulag in how much spying can be done over RSS (after/during/before killing Google Reader). When the experiment was done Gulag killed off most of Feedburner
12:45 TR News; Techrights will carry on its campaigning against Google News (Gulag Noise), having officially abandoned all of it and having repeatedly complained about it getting worse... for years
12:47 TR News; Feedburner is an apt name because it got burned by Gulag after it had burned many sites by encouraging them to outsource their syndication. Suffice to say, some sites lost MILLIONS of readers. Why did they trust Feedburner to manage that? Short-sighted.
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12:51 TR News; German Bundeswehr: Heavy drone first time flies in regular air traffic https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/20/german-bundeswehr-heavy-drone-first-time-flies-in-regular-air-traffic/
12:51 TR Bot; German Bundeswehr: Heavy drone first time flies in regular air traffic Security Architectures in the EU
12:52 TR News; "The new version of compliment has already been integrated in cider-nrepl 0.28.5 and its being used by CIDERs 1.5-SNAPSHOT builds. Thats probably the easiest way to take it out for spin. I hope youll love this release and I hope I didnt mess anything up!" https://metaredux.com/posts/2022/06/20/compliment-0-3-13.html
12:52 TR Bot; Compliment 0.3.13 | Meta Redux
12:52 TR News; SpiralLinux: Creator of GeckoLinux emits new Debian remix Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166246
12:52 TR Bot; SpiralLinux: Creator of GeckoLinux emits new Debian remix | Tux Machines
12:53 TR News; I wish Grafana dashboards and panels could have easy, natural comments https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/GrafanaCommentsWish
12:53 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/GrafanaCommentsWish
12:55 TR News; "Here at Enterprising Enterprise, we love technology, but were also pushing it hard, constantly trying to expand the frontier of whats possible." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/from-apples-to-pears
12:55 TR Bot; from apples to pears
12:56 TR News; Review: openSUSE 15.4 Leap Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166247
12:56 TR Bot; Review: openSUSE 15.4 Leap | Tux Machines
12:57 TR News; Gulag is about mass surveillance, not code. It's just trying to 'geekwash' of sciencewash an inherently imperialistic function https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/google-hash-code/
12:57 TR Bot; Google Hash Code - GeeksforGeeks
12:58 TR News; "Recent blood studies on the continent show up to 65% of people in Africa have been infected with COVID-19." https://adf-magazine.com/2022/06/nigeria-offers-many-covid-19-lessons/
12:58 TR Bot; Nigeria Offers Many COVID-19 Lessons - Africa Defense Forum
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:59 TR News; "New studies suggest that bits of COVID-19 can linger in a patients gastrointestinal system for months after the person is infected." https://adf-magazine.com/2022/06/ghost-covid-19-fragments-may-stay-in-stomach-for-months/
12:59 TR Bot; Ghost COVID-19 Fragments May Stay in Stomach for Months - Africa Defense Forum
13:07 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Classroom Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166248
13:07 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Classroom | Tux Machines
13:07 TR News; Compress Images in Linux Easily With Curtail GUI App Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166249
13:07 TR Bot; Compress Images in Linux Easily With Curtail GUI App | Tux Machines
13:08 TR News; Review: openSUSE 15.4 Leap Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166247
13:12 TR News; 7 Useful Linux Security Features and Tools for Beginners Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166250
13:12 TR Bot; 7 Useful Linux Security Features and Tools for Beginners | Tux Machines
13:15 TR News; HP Dev One Pop!_OS Linux laptop [Review] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166251
13:15 TR Bot; HP Dev One Pop!_OS Linux laptop [Review] | Tux Machines
13:15 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166252
13:15 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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13:23 TR News; 2022-06-20 SpellBinding: CSHIOPE Wordo: RUNIC gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-20.gmi
13:26 TR News; Tagger is a Terrific GTK Audio Tag Editor for Linux Desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166221#comment-34071
13:26 TR Bot; Tagger - Modern New GTK4 Music Tag Editor for Linux | Tux Machines
13:28 TR News; But Lars left. NOT a good sign. https://www.qt.io/blog/new-chief-maintainer-for-qt
13:28 TR Bot; New Chief Maintainer for the Qt Project
13:49 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/priority https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165505304120220612after.png
13:49 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Priority
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14:41 TR News; Microsoft Edge Needs to Die and Were Getting There Fast | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/microsoft-edge-deserves-extinction/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/microsoft-edge-deserves-extinction/
14:41 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge Needs to Die and Were Getting There Fast | Techrights
14:45 TR News; "You get XP when you spend at least four hours studying (engaging with spell copying or other research), or one hour in a new library." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/job-xp
14:46 TR News; Yes, Clowns ARE a threat! Bring out the CLOWNS https://containerjournal.com/features/container-threats-in-the-cloud-what-enterprises-need-to-know/
14:46 TR Bot; Container Threats in the Cloud: What Enterprises Need to Know - Container Journal
14:47 TR News; More complexity = more attack surface. THE CLOWN!!! "https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/20/8-open-source-kubernetes-security-tools
14:47 TR Bot; 8 open source Kubernetes security tools | Red Hat Developer
14:47 TR News; X turns 38. Yes, 8 years older than "Linux" https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml
14:48 TR Bot; Talisman: Debut of X
14:58 TR News; Clown Computing and Red Hat/IBM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166253
14:58 TR Bot; Clown Computing and Red Hat/IBM | Tux Machines
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:00 TR News; #HowTo Set Environment Variables in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166254
15:00 TR Bot; How to Set Environment Variables in Linux | Tux Machines
15:01 TR News; Microsoft wants us to think that it has some exciting new Web browser that we should all be using, but it is technically little more than a piece of malware and we ought to strive for the extinction of Microsoft on the Web (its already heading in this direction regardless) http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/microsoft-edge-deserves-extinction/
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15:14 TR News; Despite Sharp Rise in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations the British Government Demotes Transparency (From Twice a Week to Once a Week!) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/coronavirus-secrecy/
15:14 TR Bot; Blog Archive Despite Sharp Rise in COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalisations the British Government Demotes Transparency (From Twice a Week to Once a Week!)
15:21 TR News; "I have been kicking the tyres of the Hare programming language recently. I find that a useful program to create when exploring new programming languages is to echo stdin to stdout." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-20-catty-hare.gmi
15:27 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166255
15:27 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:28 TR News; Microsoft acknowledges that a Windows 11 update is causing serious connection issues Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166256
15:28 TR Bot; Microsoft acknowledges that a Windows 11 update is causing serious connection issues | Tux Machines
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15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:30 TR News; Links 20/06/2022: Curtail and Tagger | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/curtail-and-tagger/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/curtail-and-tagger/
15:30 TR Bot; Links 20/06/2022: Curtail and Tagger | Techrights
15:33 TR News; Hartzbleed: A New Side-Channel Attack - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/hartzbleed-a-new-side-channel-attack.html Source: schneier
15:33 TR Bot; A New Side-Channel Attack - Schneier on Security
15:34 TR News; Meson 0.63.0rc1 https://mesonbuild.com/Release-notes-for-0-63-0.html
15:34 TR Bot; Release 0.63.0 (in development)
15:34 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166257
15:34 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
15:42 TR News; pvr: Add graphics pipeline hard coding infrastructure. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=7c25c6f04ee17caf9d7b34504f805ac7d878dd17
15:42 TR Bot; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)
15:42 TR News; "We prepared a prototype work based on Daniel Vetter's invitation to evaluate DRM framework as prospective fit." https://marc.info/?l=linux-doc&m=165571860401262&w=2
15:42 TR Bot; 'Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] Driver of Intel(R) Gaussian & Neural Accelerator' - MARC
15:43 TR News; Update on OpenType MATH fonts - Frdric Wang https://frederic-wang.fr/update-on-open-type-math-fonts.html Source: frederic-wang
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15:43 TR Bot; Update on OpenType MATH fonts - Frdric Wang
15:45 TR News; How To Install Laravel With Nginx on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot https://idroot.us/install-laravel-with-nginx-ubuntu-22-04/ Source: idroot
15:45 TR Bot; How To Install Laravel With Nginx on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
15:47 TR News; From Linux Gamer ti Valve Shill https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xnjme0H_1z0
15:47 TR Bot; We NEED first-party plugin support! (And other fixes and features we NEED on the Steam Deck) - Invidious
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16:21 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/08/reddit-technically-the-truth-6-8-22/
16:21 TR Bot; Well, I Mean, Theyre Not Wrong (25 Pics)
16:25 TR News; Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.25 We Will Raku! https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/06/20/2022-25-we-will-raku/
16:25 TR Bot; 2022.25 We Will Raku! Rakudo Weekly News
16:26 TR News; "Himitsu is a new approach to storing secret information on Unix systems, such as passwords or private keys, and I released version 0.1 this morning. Its available on Alpine Linux community and the Arch User Repository, with more distributions hopefully on the way soon." https://drewdevault.com/2022/06/20/Himitsu.html
16:26 TR Bot; Introducing the Himitsu keyring & password manager for Unix
16:31 TR News; Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/20/think-silicon-neox-risc-v-gpu-offer-3d-graphics-or-ai-acceleration/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
16:31 TR Bot; Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX Software
16:32 TR News; Ignacy Kuchciski: GSoC 2022: First update - Planning https://ignapk.blogspot.com/2022/06/gsoc-2022-first-update-planning.html
16:32 TR Bot; GSoC 2022: First update - Planning
16:33 TR News; "Maybe they want to divert NHS resources to Ukraine or something?" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/coronavirus-secrecy/
16:36 TR News; Ransomware is in fact targeting and exploiting Windows more than 90% of the time, based on studies, but Microsoft booster Lawrence Abrams helps Microsoft mislead the public and badmouth "Linux" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/the-week-in-ransomware-june-10th-2022-targeting-linux/
16:36 TR Bot; The Week in Ransomware - June 10th 2022 - Targeting Linux
16:37 TR News; 7-Zip 22 brings bug fixes and new support for Apple and Linux formats https://betanews.com/2022/06/20/7-zip-22/ Source: betanews
16:37 TR Bot; 7-Zip 22 brings bug fixes and new support for Apple and Linux formats
16:38 TR News; Anbernics RG353P Can Run Linux, Android, and Emulate Classic Consoles - Phandroid https://phandroid.com/2022/06/20/anbernics-rg353p-can-run-linux-android-and-emulate-classic-consoles/ Source: phandroid
16:38 TR Bot; RG353P Can Run Linux, Android, and Emulate Classic Consoles Phandroid
16:39 TR News; Please - A Simple Command Line Todo Manager - OSTechNix https://ostechnix.com/please-command-line-todo-manager/ Source: OSTechNix | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
16:39 TR Bot; - A Simple Command Line Todo Manager - OSTechNix
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16:40 TR News; blocks and pages and large objects -- wingolog https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/06/20/blocks-and-pages-and-large-objects Source: wingolog
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16:40 TR Bot; blocks and pages and large objects -- wingolog
16:40 TR News; 10 Useful Python One-Liners You Must Know - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/useful-python-one-liners/ Source: maketecheasier
16:40 TR Bot; 10 Useful Python One-Liners You Must Know - Make Tech Easier
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16:43 TR News; Further disclosures by FB whistleblower reveal political bias https://internetfreedom.in/further-disclosures-by-fb-whistleblower-reveal-political-bias/ Source: internetfreedom
16:43 TR Bot; Further disclosures by FB whistleblower reveal political bias
16:44 TR News; Disclosure missing: the author interviews her BOSS. https://linuxsecurity.com/features/security-spotlight-effective-open-source-email-security-solutions-you-can-count-on "Director of Marketing".. conflict of interest
16:44 TR Bot; Interview with Guardian Digital CEO Dave Wreski: Open Source Utiliz...
16:45 TR News; This site has spread a lot of anti-Linux FUD of Microsoft lately. Now it's just spamming for the author's employer. https://linuxsecurity.com/features/email-security-faqs-answered-by-guardian-digital
16:45 TR Bot; Email Security FAQs Answered by Guardian Digital
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16:46 TR News; Ubuntu Core 22 wants to power the next generation of IoT devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34072
16:46 TR Bot; Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux Machines
16:50 TR News; "Why am I NOT a fulltime youtuber??" Gulag does not pay people, it's just exploiting them. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=363wd2EtQZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=363wd2EtQZ0
16:50 TR Bot; Not Fulltime - Invidious
16:50 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=363wd2EtQZ0
16:51 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Not Fulltime - Invidious
16:51 TR News; Whonix 16.0.5.3 is out https://www.whonix.org/
16:51 TR Bot; Whonix - Software That Can Anonymize Everything You Do Online
16:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166258
16:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:54 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166259
16:54 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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16:56 TR News; Petter Reinholdtsen: My free software activity of late (2022) https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/My_free_software_activity_of_late__2022_.html
16:56 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: My free software activity of late (2022)
16:58 TR News; "I just sent myself a test message via Powerbase (a hosted CiviCRM project for community organizers) and it didnt arrive. Wait, nope, there it is in my junk folder with a spam score of 6!" https://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2022/liberal-spam-rule/
16:58 TR Bot; Jamie McClelland | A very liberal spam assassin rule
16:58 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/funny-teacher-classroom-signs-31.jpg
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16:59 TR News; LinuxCNC translators life just got a bit easier https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LinuxCNC_translators_life_just_got_a_bit_easier.html
16:59 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: LinuxCNC translators life just got a bit easier
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17:19 TR News; Corrupted OSI connected to corrupt LInux Foundation https://blog.opensource.org/ossummit-north-america-is-going-to-be-weird-and-i-cant-wait/
17:19 TR Bot; OSSummit North America is going to be weird and I cant wait - Voices of Open Source
17:19 TR News; "CMS has been designed to be general and to handle many types of contests, tasks, scoring, etc. Nonetheless, CMS has been explicitly built to be used in the 2012 International Olympiad in Informatics, held in September 2012 in Italy." https://medevel.com/cms-contest-management-system/
17:19 TR Bot; CMS: Is a Self-hosted Open-source Contest Management System
17:20 TR News; Michael Larabel doing marketing for AMD with their own marketing material, NO CONNECTION TO LINUX https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-PRO-5000-WX-Update see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
17:20 TR Bot; PRO 5000 WX Series Coming To More System Integrators, DIY Market Later This Year - Phoronix
17:20 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
17:26 TR News; Delete Windows, reject proprietary software. For starters...https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/06/17/why-a-successful-cyber-security-awareness-month-starts-now/
17:26 TR Bot; Why a successful Cyber Security Awareness month starts now! NVISO Labs
17:28 TR News; "Harry Litman observed after yesterdays January 6 Committee hearing that you might be able to charge Trump with the attempted murder of Mike Pence." https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/06/17/forty-feet-trump-sicced-a-murder-weapon-on-mike-pence/
17:28 TR Bot; Forty Feet: Trump Sicced a Murder Weapon on Mike Pence - emptywheel
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17:35 TR News; Anbernics RG353P Can Run Linux, Android, and Emulate Classic Consoles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166260
17:35 TR Bot; Anbernics RG353P Can Run Linux, Android, and Emulate Classic Consoles | Tux Machines
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17:49 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Kaisen Linux 2.1." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SyKZ1xTNHAM
17:49 TR Bot; How to install Kaisen Linux 2.1 - Invidious
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17:51 TR News; >Hotfix GhostBSD 22.06.18 ISO is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166191#comment-34073
17:51 TR Bot; GhostBSD 22.06.15 ISO is now available | Tux Machines
17:53 TR News; Important tips About Linux - LinuxTechLab https://linuxtechlab.com/important-tips-about-linux/ "It may be less common than Microsoft's products," it says, but Linux is a lot more widely used, including in Android.
17:53 TR Bot; tips About Linux - LinuxTechLab
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17:57 TR News; Clown and "HEY HI" in place of surveillance https://retailwire.com/discussion/should-analytics-drive-category-planning/
17:57 TR Bot; analytics drive category planning? RetailWire
17:58 TR News; "Today, Bitcoin and other cryptos are plunging, and companies such as Coinbase, which runs the largest crypto exchange in the U.S, are announcing layoffs." https://www.npr.org/2022/06/17/1105343423/cryptocurrencies-winter-crash-bitcoin-celcius
17:58 TR Bot; Why cryptocurrencies have gone from hot to full-on meltdown : NPR
17:59 TR News; "Welcome back to another Friday Product Post here at SparkFun Electronics! This week we are happy to bring you an assortment of new products including the beta version of our new LoRaSerial Kit." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4729
17:59 TR Bot; Data Logging - News - SparkFun Electronics
18:00 TR News; Soft Robotics is About More than Building Robots https://cacm.acm.org/news/261959-soft-robotics-is-about-more-than-building-robots/fulltext
18:00 TR Bot; Soft Robotics is About More than Building Robots | News | Communications of the ACM
18:13 TR News; No CODING SKILLS? CONTRIBUTE anyway! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FccdqCucVSI "I can't code, but I have blue hair..."
18:13 TR Bot; No CODING SKILLS? CONTRIBUTE anyway! - Invidious
18:13 MinceR; (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/4Zai6UV.mp4
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18:18 TR News; John Goerzen: Pipe Issue Likely a Kernel Bug https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10390-pipe-issue-likely-a-kernel-bug
18:18 TR Bot; Pipe Issue Likely a Kernel Bug | The Changelog
18:22 TR News; "Apparently I had set the default display brightness to 0%" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-20-error-user-failed-brightness-check.gmi
18:23 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/20/kommersant-russias-emergency-ministry-requests-15-billion-rub-to-introduce-video-surveillance-and-face-recognition-in-ukraine-neighbouring-regions-news "Russias Emergency Ministry requests 15 billion RUB to introduce video surveillance and face recognition in Ukraine-neighbouring regions"
18:23 TR Bot; .
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18:23 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: it's crock
18:24 schestowitz_TR; seems more like an anitimidation tactic
18:24 schestowitz_TR; "we are watching you; we know who you are"
18:24 schestowitz_TR; (even when they don't)
18:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166262
18:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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18:25 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166261
18:25 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos | Tux Machines
18:27 XRevan86; schestowitz: I wonder where they're going to get the equipment. PRC is able to provide?
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:31 schestowitz_TR; we have the same issue in the uk, XRevan86
18:31 schestowitz_TR; if I leave my job this summer, I will look closely into it and write more about it
18:32 schestowitz_TR; but I know from personal experience as postdoc that face rec is crock
18:32 schestowitz_TR; esp. for population bigger than a classroom or school
18:32 schestowitz_TR; it's like polygrapg
18:32 schestowitz_TR; it can have an effect if people think it works
18:32 schestowitz_TR; I cover my face outdoors anyway, just in cases
18:32 schestowitz_TR; and a hat too
18:33 schestowitz_TR; gait recognition is a bigger crock
18:33 schestowitz_TR; when I enrolled for a phd 20 years ago they had some slides on it
18:33 schestowitz_TR; falsely claiming they would one day recognise people by the way they walk
18:33 schestowitz_TR; as if that's a good classifier, it is not
18:34 schestowitz_TR; it is all worth clustering under pseudo science and junk science of sci-fi
18:34 schestowitz_TR; london police even admitted that face rec was a complete and utter failure for the Met
18:34 schestowitz_TR; money down the drain
18:34 schestowitz_TR; from taxpayers to some private firms
18:34 schestowitz_TR; with false promises
18:53 TR News; Links 20/06/2022: 7-Zip 22 and GhostBSD 22.06.18 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/7-zip-22/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/7-zip-22/
18:53 TR Bot; Links 20/06/2022: 7-Zip 22 and GhostBSD 22.06.18 | Techrights
18:53 TR News; Programming leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166263
18:53 TR Bot; Programming leftovers | Tux Machines
18:54 XRevan86; schestowitz: The UK is not under sanctions though.
18:54 TR News; Free, Libre Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166264
18:54 TR Bot; Free, Libre Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:54 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166265
18:54 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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18:58 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-8-22-11.jpg
18:58 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: true
18:58 schestowitz_TR; not yet
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19:21 matey; <Techrights-sec2> society will implode without any kind of fallback position to build up
19:21 matey; maybe
19:21 matey; though imo thats looking for vindication
19:21 matey; "i told you so"
19:21 matey; it could still happen
19:22 matey; some things are irreversible, without question
19:22 matey; but i dont trust people who are too certain everything is
19:22 matey; thats not my brand of pessimism
19:22 matey; if i were that pessimistic, it wouldnt matter what we did
19:23 matey; we could literally give up
19:23 matey; which is fine some days, i dont blame people who do sometimes
19:23 matey; only human etc etc
19:24 matey; but when you really dont believe there are any options left, thats a fine road to sociopathy
19:24 matey; if you have any empathy left you dont care how bad the odds are
19:24 matey; like a mother who lifts a car off a trapped child
19:25 matey; the weight of the car is irrelevant
19:25 matey; shes going to try (and possibly succeed)
19:25 XRevan86; The weight is relevant, but the body's safe mode is out of the window.
19:25 matey; from a scientific standpoint, of course the weight is relevant
19:25 matey; but its not to her, is my point
19:26 matey; thats the triumph of the human spirit. we are motherfucking crazy.
19:26 matey; but you cant pin it on humans. bears are the same
19:26 matey; elephants too
19:27 matey; probably lions and tigers, but i dont pay them as much attention so far
19:27 matey; clearly some dogs, even after we doctor moreau them into fucking handbag passengers
19:28 matey; and a couple of really badass fish, but this one im still waiting for evidence
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19:56 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-7-22-10.jpg
19:58 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1538883644999315460
19:58 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "After her recent pow-wow with Putin, Margarita Simonyan came up with a yet another explanation for what Russia is doing in Ukraine. Watch and gasp. More details in my latest article "|nitter
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21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:46 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/baconcancer.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-baconcancer#comic )
21:46 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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22:14 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166266
22:14 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:17 TR News; ShaRPiKeebo mini Linux computer complete with keyboard and screen http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166244#comment-34074
22:17 TR Bot; ShaRPiKeebo mini Linux computer | Tux Machines
22:19 TR News; Writing bots for proprietary spyware gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-20%20Discord%20Bot
22:20 TR News; Manual SSHFS Mount/Umount gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-20-manual-sshfs-mount-umount.gmi
22:21 TR News; "Today, the 20th of June 2022, is the third anniversary of the Gemini project! Or at least, the third anniversary of the public announcing of the project under that name" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/news/2022_06_20.gmi
22:24 TR News; "Wayland is by no means in a perfect state or even a usable state for all people but what problems but it's getting there, however what's actually wrong with it." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eymKoOdQbCU
22:24 TR Bot; "Boycott Wayland. It breaks everything!" Is That True? - Invidious
22:25 TR News; Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 Run Through - Invidious <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_d69J0iJNfs"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
22:25 TR Bot; Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 Run Through - Invidious
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22:31 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at Manjaro Linux 21.3.0." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_d69J0iJNfs
22:39 TR News; OpenWrt demotes TRAC in favour of Microsoft proprietary spyware :( https://openwrt.org/submitting-patches?rev=1655745158&do=diff
22:39 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] Submitting patches
22:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166267
22:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:41 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/mbRNFOa
22:41 TR Bot; Chorus is complete! - Album on Imgur
22:43 TR News; Five things you need to know about Linux container security https://www.cshub.com/cloud/articles/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-linux-container-security
22:43 TR Bot; Five things you need to know about Linux container security | Cyber Security Hub
22:44 TR News; "Without monthly ad revenue and your support, we wont be able to keep providing you with interesting and useful articles, applications, news or new releases of SparkyLinux." https://sparkylinux.org/support-june-2022/
22:44 TR Bot; Support June 2022 SparkyLinux
22:45 TR News; AlmaLinux too close to Microsoft. Even outsourcing code to Microsoft. Plus WSL, Azure etc. Use RockyLinux instead.
22:47 TR News; Designing a DIY watch with a brass cyberpunk-y aesthetic | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/20/designing-a-diy-watch-with-a-brass-cyberpunk-y-aesthetic/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
22:47 TR Bot; Designing a DIY watch with a brass 'cyberpunk-y' aesthetic | Arduino Blog
22:49 TR News; SUSE is boosting clown computing BS. This is the opposite of what Free software ought to strive for. https://www.suse.com/c/magic-wand-converting-byos-to-payg/
22:49 TR Bot; Magic Wand for Converting BYOS to PAYG on AWS | SUSE Communities
22:55 TR News; Three Years of Gemini! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/3-years-of-gemini/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/3-years-of-gemini/
22:55 TR Bot; Three Years of Gemini! | Techrights
22:57 TR News; "Happy Friday, everyone --here's what the Apache community has been up to over the past week..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up261
22:57 TR Bot; The Apache News Round-up: week ending 17 June 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
22:58 TR News; "In the devscripts package currently in Debian testing (2.22.2), wrap-and-sort has opt-in support for preserving comments in deb822 control files such as debian/control and debian/tests/control. Currently, this is an opt-in feature to provide some exposure without breaking anything." https://nthykier.wordpress.com/2022/06/20/wrap-and-sort-with-experimental-support-for-comments-in-devscripts-2-22-2/
22:58 TR Bot; wrap-and-sort with experimental support for comments in devscripts/2.22.2 | nthykier
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23:00 TR News; Debian's Iustin Pop: Experiment: A week of running https://k1024.org/posts/2022/2022-06-20-a-week-of-running/
23:00 TR Bot; iustin - Experiment: A week of running
23:00 TR News; Top 23 Open-source Headless and API-based CMS for 2022 https://medevel.com/23-headless-cms-for-2022/
23:00 TR Bot; Top 23 Open-source Headless and API-based CMS for 2022
23:01 TR News; BSidesSF 2022 CTF: Login4Shell https://systemoverlord.com/2022/06/20/bsidessf-2022-ctf-login4shell.html
23:01 TR Bot; BSidesSF 2022 CTF: Login4Shell System Overlord
23:12 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/911911911.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-2#comic )
23:12 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
23:29 TR News; Physical Demonstrations Against EPO Considered This Month, Work-to-Rule Industrial Action May Continue, and 96% Think Antnio Campinos Violating the Code of Conduct Means the Office Should Release Recordings | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-opinion-poll-campinos-survey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-opinion-poll-campinos-survey/
23:29 TR Bot; Physical Demonstrations Against EPO Considered This Month, Work-to-Rule Industrial Action May Continue, and 96% Think Antnio Campinos Violating the Code of Conduct Means the Office Should Release Recordings | Techrights
23:40 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/friendhug.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-friendhug#comic )
23:40 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
23:43 TR News; [Meme] Speaking Professionally at the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-campinos-foul-mouthed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-campinos-foul-mouthed/
23:43 TR Bot; [Meme] Speaking Professionally at the EPO | Techrights
23:46 TR News; "KDE e.V. makes it known that two votes took place in 2022Q2 (April-June 2022): A change to the rules of online voting, and accepting the FLA 2.0." https://ev.kde.org//2022/06/20/decisions/
23:46 TR Bot; KDE e.V. votes 2022Q2 | KDE e.V.
23:50 TR News; Manjaro 21.3 Linux Lands With Enhanced Desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34075
23:50 TR Bot; Manjaro 21.3 "Ruah" Brings Refreshed Desktop Environments | Tux Machines
23:51 TR News; Fedora tonight: "We're updating copr packages to the new versions which will bring new features and bugfixes." Copr was outsourced...
23:55 TR News; "if you like full control, Linux is probably the best choice." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-vs-mac-vs-windows-operating-system/
23:55 TR Bot; Linux vs. Windows vs. macOS: Which Is the Operating System for You?
23:55 TR News; LINMOB.net - Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (24/2022): postmarketOS 22.06 and other software progress Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166268
23:55 TR Bot; LINMOB.net - Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (24/2022): postmarketOS 22.06 and other software progress | Tux Machines
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