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00:00 t0talist; and, i am not aware of any libc available, which passed with tcc (there is some mes-libc from bootstrappable, with limited capabilities)
00:02 t0talist; at least, there is a alot of time remaining, until year2038, to stabilize 64bit time_t with a tcc-compiled kernel
00:06 t0talist; i mean, i was thinking about moving forward with linux further; which put an end to this reasoning was C11 creeping into, besides the giant size of latest kernels
00:07 t0talist; i mean, a kernel-2.4/2.6 should scale nicely with relevant x86; and maybe some time i will re-iterate over x86_64
00:08 t0talist; it is just, 64bit address space, aren't that relevant; in fact scaling down is todays challenge
00:09 t0talist; ideally, once finished, i can throw this tcc-i386.iso distribution at any x86 system to boot with VESA graphics and usb support
00:16 t0talist; and I got a compiler/toolchain capable of bootstrapping gcc47/binutils and the whole GNU circus; which i tested with tcc already
00:17 t0talist; the GNU autotools are a huge burden, because Perl isn't easily bootstrapped/cross-compiled, and those autotools require perl
00:17 t0talist; and gcc47/binutils require, autotools, if the pre-configured configure/makefiles aren't used
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:04:19 DaemonFC They say I'm a good driver. I got a 105 out of 115 on the app,
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:04:46 DaemonFC Lots of people on Reddit complain that they get an 80 or 90 and their rate actually goes up or doesn't get a discount.
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:05:15 DaemonFC The thing stopping me from getting a better score than 105 is I take corners too fast.
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:10:43 MinceR 18 210723 <@MinceR> reminds me of route 8 in hungary
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:10:46 MinceR 18 210732 <@MinceR> with its speed limits
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:10:58 MinceR "oh no, there's a very slight bend in the road, better restrict speed further!"
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:11:14 DaemonFC No need to fix the potholes when you can have CHICKEN WIRE.
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:11:32 MinceR :>
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:11:32 DaemonFC CHICKEN WIRE to keep all of the SHITHOLE COUNTRY people out o glorious Hungaristan.
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:11:51 MinceR what actually keeps those people out is the failing economy
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; Sat 20:12:00 MinceR and the failing infrastructure
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; S
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; the hypervisor rebooted around that time
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; so pasting this for the logs (some may be missing on users' end too)
00:19 t0talist; anyway, GNU toolchain, got an even lower priority, there is sufficient man-power elsewhere, to cope with that
00:19 t0talist; my grievance is, the basis which the whole software-industry including GNU relies upon, is fragile
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; Using Nix to configure Neovim gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/techGuides/usingNixToConfigureNeovim.gmi
00:20 t0talist; cproc/qbe or tcc are only two compilers remaining which may succeed with linux kernel (tcc got linker and assembler besides, which cproc hasn't, to avoid binutils)
00:20 TR News; "I have developed some R code to use with data from the SEOSAW[1] database to calculate woody productivity and vital rates according to Talbot et al. (2014), Kohyama et al. (2018) and Kohyama et al. (2019). I've archived the code as a Github repository[2] in case anybody wants to use it." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/~johngodlee/posts/2023-03-17-talbot_kohyama_prod_vital.gmi
00:21 t0talist; bootstrappable, did verify a path, to produce tcc-toolchain... that's good
00:21 TR News; "today at a caf i saw a grinder of "Pink Himalayan Salt" (it's that sort of caf). on the front of the label was the brand name "LITALY" with an italian slogan beneath." gemini://envs.net/~winter/log/2023/03/18/globalism.gmi
00:22 t0talist; the principle reasoning is, all this "opensource" and "free software" drama, doesn't even bother anymore, to compile anything gigabytes of binary artifacts are required, which are impossible to verify and audit, for suspicious content
00:22 t0talist; and, once tcc-toolchain was hooked in, this is a huge benefit to the whole chain of trust
00:22 TR News; "So I've left smol.pub, ditched my old pseudonym, Sud0nim, and adopted a new one, Lesogorov." gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2303/maiden-voyage.gmi
00:23 t0talist; i don't trust neither llvm/clang nor GNU-toolchain
00:24 t0talist; that's very important:
00:24 t0talist; 2023-03-19 00:22:51 <t0talist> and, once tcc-toolchain was hooked in, this is a huge benefit to the whole chain of trust
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00:26 TR News; Pass by Value Meaning in Java http://knowledgebasement.com/pass-by-value-meaning-in-java/
00:26 TR Bot; Pass by Value Meaning in Java |
00:26 TR News; What are Varargs in Java and How to Use Them http://knowledgebasement.com/what-are-varargs-in-java-and-how-to-use-them/
00:26 TR Bot; What are Varargs in Java and How to Use Them |
00:26 TR News; What are Javas Access Modifiers and How to Use Them http://knowledgebasement.com/what-are-javas-access-modifiers-and-how-to-use-them/
00:26 TR Bot; What are Javas Access Modifiers and How to Use Them |
00:28 t0talist; another reasoning related to this: it's not me who locked-out GNU, it's GNU and linux who locked out an alternative
00:29 t0talist; this barely provides a glimpse, of what the challenges are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU0Z0vBKrtQ
00:29 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iU0Z0vBKrtQ
00:29 TR Bot; yewtu.be | SUSE Labs Conference 2018 - Compiling the Linux kernel in a second (give or take) - Invidious
00:30 t0talist; and if the acceptance criteria are tightened (no-c++, no binutils, no gcc, no autotools, no perl, no python), to compile any "free software"... see for yourself how that goes
00:30 TR News; Fedora Magazine is promoting Microsoft's proprietary software https://fedoramagazine.org/test-github-projects-with-github-actions-and-testing-farm/
00:30 TR Bot; Test GitHub projects with GitHub Actions and Testing Farm - Fedora Magazine
00:30 t0talist; again, the idea isn't to lock out any of the mentioned, it's the precondition you have, to begin with, when bootstrapping a CLEAN "free software" system
00:31 t0talist; you may not have any vi editor anymore... what a glorious finding vis editor was
00:32 t0talist; the missing debugger problem, i'll cope with it differently, meaning there won't be any with a clean system integration
00:33 t0talist; so, i'll probably end up with a GNU-chroot, just for this
00:35 psydruid; https://old.reddit.com/r/Compilers/comments/e53pwa/compiler_implemented_in_hardware/
00:35 TR Bot; Compiler implemented in hardware? : Compilers
00:35 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/
00:35 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/ )
00:36 TR News; Vietnam arrests Facebook user for attempt to 'overthrow the state' https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/vietnam-arrests-facebook-user-for-attempt-to-overthrow-the-state
00:36 TR Bot; Vietnam arrests Facebook user for attempt to 'overthrow the state' | The Straits Times
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00:38 TR News; While OSI actively helps Microsoft attack the GPL because Microsoft pays OSI to do this https://blog.opensource.org/osi-to-hold-in-person-license-clinic-workshop/
00:38 TR Bot; OSI to hold in person License Clinic workshop - Voices of Open Source
00:39 TR News; Manchester 10: Open letter asks Andy Burnham to tackle discriminatory gang surveillance https://www.openrightsgroup.org/publications/manchester-10-open-letter-asks-andy-burnham-to-tackle-discriminatory-gang-surveillance/
00:39 TR Bot; Manchester 10: Open letter asks Andy Burnham to tackle discriminatory gang surveillance | Open Rights Group
00:40 TR News; Campaign Pack Online Safety Bill https://www.openrightsgroup.org/publications/campaign-pack-online-safety-bill/
00:40 TR Bot; Campaign Pack Online Safety Bill | Open Rights Group
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00:41 TR News; MakuluLinux Max New Teaser Video ! http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2023/03/16/makululinux-max-new-teaser-video/
00:41 TR Bot; Max New Teaser Video ! MakuluLinux
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00:44 TR News; 3 ways layoffs will impact IT jobs in 2023 https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/3/3-ways-layoffs-will-impact-it-jobs-2023
00:44 TR Bot; 3 ways layoffs will impact IT jobs in 2023 | The Enterprisers Project
00:45 t0talist; ^ hopefully, there won't by any more "projects", which swap the desktop wallpaper, and call this a "linux distro"
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00:45 TR News; Transmission 4.0.2 Released with Numerous Bug-Fixes [Ubuntu PPA] https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/03/transmission-4-0-2-released-with-numerous-bug-fixes-ubuntu-ppa/
00:45 TR Bot; Transmission 4.0.2 Released with Numerous Bug-Fixes [Ubuntu PPA] | UbuntuHandbook
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00:47 TR News; Ksnip 1.10.1 Add KDE Support for Scale Factor [Ubuntu PPA] https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/03/ksnip-kde-scale-factor/
00:47 TR Bot; Ksnip 1.10.1 Add KDE Support for Scale Factor [Ubuntu PPA] | UbuntuHandbook
00:47 TR News; CAFC Affirms TTAB: OXIPURITY Confusable with OXYPURE for Different Chemical Products http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/03/cafc-affirms-ttab-oxipurity-confusable.html
00:47 TR Bot; The TTABlog: CAFC Affirms TTAB: OXIPURITY Confusable with OXYPURE for Different Chemical Products
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00:48 TR News; NOW: Pensions Lying, Obstructing and Gaslighting Clients After Months of Lies, Delays, and Cover-up (Amid Pension Fraud) http://techrights.org/2023/03/16/now-pensions-lying/
00:48 TR Bot; NOW: Pensions Lying, Obstructing and Gaslighting Clients After Months of Lies, Delays, and Cover-up (Amid Pension Fraud) | Techrights
00:48 TR News; Skyfall for Sirius Open Source: A Second Pension Provider Starts to Investigate Serious (Sirius) Abuses http://techrights.org/2023/03/16/sirius-open-source-fraud/
00:48 TR Bot; Skyfall for Sirius Open Source: A Second Pension Provider Starts to Investigate Serious (Sirius) Abuses | Techrights
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: i think you already are aware, but i will say it just in case: HV rebooted yesterday midnight UTC and today 8PM UTC
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00:50 TR News; Buffalo Patents teleconferencing patent challenged https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/3/16/buffalo-patents-teleconferencing-patent-challenged
00:50 TR Bot; Buffalo Patents teleconferencing patent challenged Unified Patents
00:50 TR News; TSMC Founder Supports US Chip Sanctions on China https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-founder-supports-us-chip-sanctions-on-china
00:50 TR Bot; TSMC Founder Supports US Chip Sanctions on China | Tom's Hardware
00:51 TR News; Steam Deck Goes on Sale for the First Time https://www.tomshardware.com/news/steam-deck-on-sale-spring-steam-sale
00:51 TR Bot; Steam Deck Goes on Sale for the First Time | Tom's Hardware
00:51 TR News; Swedish inflation spikes to 12 percent https://www.thelocal.se/20230316/swedish-inflation-spikes-to-12-percent
00:51 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230316/swedish-inflation-spikes-to-12-percent )
00:52 TR News; Storing sensitive data using Podman secrets: Which method should you use? https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-kubernetes-secrets
00:52 TR Bot; Storing sensitive data using Podman secrets: Which method should you use? | Enable Sysadmin
00:53 TR News; Qt 6.4.3 Released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.4.3-released
00:53 TR Bot; Qt 6.4.3 Released
00:53 TR News; Qt Creator 10 RC released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-10-rc-released
00:53 TR Bot; Qt Creator 10 RC released
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00:55 TR News; National press ABCs: Evening Standard down 30% in a year.... https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/most-popular-newspapers-uk-abc-monthly-circulation-figures-2/
00:55 TR Bot; Most popular newspapers in the UK: Latest print ABC circulations
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00:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Transmission 4.0.2 Limits In-Kernel File Copying to 2GB Blocks at a Time, Fixes Bugs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/16/Transmission_4_0_2_Limits_In_Kernel_File_Copying_to_2GB_Blocks_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/16/Transmission_4_0_2_Limits_In_Kernel_File_Copying_to_2GB_Blocks_.gmi
00:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Transmission 4.0.2 Limits In-Kernel File Copying to 2GB Blocks at a Time, Fixes Bugs
00:57 TR News; Grub vs. Systemd-boot: Which One Should You Use as the Bootloader https://www.maketecheasier.com/grub-vs-systemd-boot/
00:57 TR Bot; Grub vs. Systemd-boot: Which One Should You Use as the Bootloader - Make Tech Easier
00:58 TR News; Plex Media Server: Your Ultimate Guide to organizing and watching your personal Media https://www.dignited.com/108413/plex-media-server-ultimate-guide-to-media-streaming/
00:58 TR Bot; Media Server: Your Ultimate Guide to organizing and watching your personal Media - Dignited
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00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 TR News; White House Reportedly Issues TikTok Forced Sale Demand As CEO Shou Zi Chew Prepares to Testify Before Congress https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/16/tiktok-forced-sale-demand/
00:59 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/16/tiktok-forced-sale-demand/ )
01:00 TR News; American Oversight Sues Florida Department of Education for Records Related to Gov. DeSantis Ongoing Attacks on Education https://www.americanoversight.org/american-oversight-sues-florida-department-of-education-for-records-related-to-gov-desantis-ongoing-attacks-on-education
01:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/american-oversight-sues-florida-department-of-education-for-records-related-to-gov-desantis-ongoing-attacks-on-education )
01:00 TR News; <li><h5><a href="https://www.accessnow.org/mada-masr-journalists-trial/">32 Civil Society Organizations Condemn the Referral of Mada Masr Journalists to Trial</a></h5><blockquote><p>We join rights groups in condemning the decision to refer three female journalists from Mada Masr on charges of insulting MPs and misusing social media.
01:00 TR Bot; 32 Civil Society Organizations Condemn the Referral of Mada Masr Journalists to Trial - Access Now
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01:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Joseph Cantrell looked better in court with the face mask on.
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01:02 TR News; Gary Benson: Python debugger https://gbenson.net/python-debugger/
01:02 TR Bot; debugger gbenson.net
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01:03 DaemonFC; Microsoft says they vetted him with their usual hiring practice yet didn't know anything about his site with all the weird shit.
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; ah
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; source?
01:03 DaemonFC; It's okay because he's "no longer with the company"
01:03 TR News; Felipe Borges: Register for Linux App Summit 2023! https://feborg.es/register-for-linux-app-summit-2023/
01:03 TR Bot; Register for Linux App Summit 2023! Felipe Borges
01:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Geekwire. They basically copied most of what I said without attribution.
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: like uncle bill
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; any time you brring up speterin
01:03 schestowitz[TR]; epstein
01:03 DaemonFC; https://www.geekwire.com/2023/suspect-in-alleged-stabbing-of-fellow-microsoft-employee-pleads-not-guilty-to-attempted-murder/
01:03 TR Bot; in alleged stabbing of fellow Microsoft employee pleads not guilty to attempted murder GeekWire
01:04 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Cocaine Bear is funnier than it should be.
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; maybe do a folowup
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; to remind people
01:04 TR News; Gary Benson: Which APT repository did a package come from? https://gbenson.net/which-apt-repository-did-a-package-come-from/
01:04 TR Bot; APT repository did a package come from? gbenson.net
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; geekwire is Microsoft
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; it's their moutpiece
01:04 schestowitz[TR]; we did a series about it months ago
01:05 schestowitz[TR]; they even burn sources from isndie Microsoft
01:05 schestowitz[TR]; snitches
01:05 TR News; Remi Collet: PHP version 8.1.17 and 8.2.4 https://blog.remirepo.net/post/2023/03/16/PHP-version-8.1.17-and-8.2.4
01:05 TR Bot; PHP version 8.1.17 and 8.2.4 - Remi's RPM repository - Blog
01:06 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Cocaine Bear and PCP Joseph.
01:06 DaemonFC; :)
01:06 schestowitz[TR]; your story pciked up weeks later
01:06 schestowitz[TR]; it took a while
01:07 schestowitz[TR]; greekwire (microsofT) had to "reply"
01:07 TR News; Smile is a Customizable Emoji Picker for Linux https://www.omglinux.com/smile-emoji-picker-for-linux/
01:07 TR Bot; Smile is a Customizable Emoji Picker for Linux - OMG! Linux
01:07 TR News; Sed Uncommenting Lines in a Text File https://tecadmin.net/uncommenting-lines-in-a-text-file/
01:07 TR Bot; Sed - Uncommenting Lines in a Text File TecAdmin
01:08 TR News; SUSEs revenue grows 9% amid strong demand for container tools https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/16/suses-revenue-grows-9-amid-strong-demand-container-tools/
01:08 TR Bot; revenue grows 9% amid strong demand for container tools - SiliconANGLE
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: let me know if you need the links
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; i am frantically catching upw ith news overnight
01:11 TR News; Beetle Carapaces in Basohli Miniature Paintings (ca. 16601700) https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/basohli-beetle-paintings
01:11 TR Bot; Beetle Carapaces in Basohli Miniature Paintings (ca. 16601700) The Public Domain Review
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: my uncle in FL is about to die
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; he is almost 98
01:12 TR News; Public Knowledge Commends FCC Vote To Protect Consumers from Illegal and Unwanted Calls and Texts https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-commends-fcc-vote-to-protect-consumers-from-illegal-and-unwanted-calls-and-texts/
01:12 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Commends FCC Vote To Protect Consumers from Illegal and Unwanted Calls and Texts - Public Knowledge
01:12 TR News; Public Knowledge Applauds FCC Vote To Keep Incarcerated People Connected https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-fcc-vote-to-keep-incarcerated-people-connected/
01:12 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Applauds FCC Vote To Keep Incarcerated People Connected - Public Knowledge
01:13 TR News; RAD Expansion Unit for the Commodore 64 https://cubiclenate.com/2023/03/16/rad-expansion-unit-for-the-commodore-64/
01:13 TR Bot; Expansion Unit for the Commodore 64 CubicleNate's Techpad
01:14 TR News; Niko Matsakis: Must move types http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2023/03/16/must-move-types/
01:14 TR Bot; Baby Steps
01:15 TR News; Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 239 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-239-released/
01:15 TR Bot; diffoscope 239 released
01:15 TR News; <li><h5><a href="https://peppe8o.com/npk-soil-sensor-arduino/">NPK Soil Sensor with Arduino: Wiring Diagram and Code Explained</a></h5><blockquote><p>In this tutorial, we will use Arduino, an NPK soil sensor to get the soil fertility. The percentage of nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium is measured</p>
01:15 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://peppe8o.com/npk-soil-sensor-arduino/ )
01:17 TR News; How to use Yield in Python https://net2.com/how-to-use-yield-in-python/
01:17 TR Bot; How to use Yield in Python
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01:19 TR News; refine Is An Open Source Rapid Application Development Kit For Next.js Developers https://medevel.com/refine-nextjs/
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01:19 TR Bot; refine Is An Open Source Rapid Application Development Kit For Next.js Developers
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01:19 TR News; Tremor is a Complete Dashboard Components Library for React and Next.js https://medevel.com/tremor-dashboard-react/
01:19 TR Bot; Tremor is a Complete Dashboard Components Library for React and Next.js
01:19 TR News; Dashflare Is a Self-hosted Cloudflare-based Analytics Solution with Grafana https://medevel.com/dashflare/
01:19 TR Bot; Dashflare Is a Self-hosted Cloudflare-based Analytics Solution with Grafana
01:19 TR News; Appwrite Is a Low-code Backend Solution and A Firebase Alternative https://medevel.com/appwrite/
01:19 TR Bot; Appwrite Is a Low-code Backend Solution and A Firebase Alternative
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:21 TR News; How to Install Java on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
01:21 TR Bot; How to Install Java on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
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01:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: will you do a rebuttal?
01:24 DaemonFC; Dunno.
01:25 TR News; YLE: Finnish food prices jumped over 16% year-on-year in February https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23166-yle-finnish-food-prices-jumped-over-16-year-on-year-in-february.html
01:25 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23166-yle-finnish-food-prices-jumped-over-16-year-on-year-in-february.html )
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: when is yoiur home audit?
01:26 TR News; Nearly $500 million in Economic Benefit From Fewer NHK-Fintiv Denials at the PTAB: Report https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/3/14/economic-analysis-finds-ipr-process-under-aiaptab-leading-to-significant-increases-in-us-business-activity
01:26 TR Bot; Nearly $500 million in Economic Benefit From Fewer NHK-Fintiv Denials at the PTAB: Report Unified Patents
01:26 DaemonFC; Yesterday.
01:26 DaemonFC; Still really tired.
01:27 DaemonFC; I don't know who those people were. The city maybe?
01:27 TR News; SUSE open-sources Secure VM Service Module for Confidential Computing https://www.suse.com/c/suse-open-sources-secure-vm-service-module-for-confidential-computing/
01:28 TR Bot; open-sources Secure VM Service Module for Confidential Computing | SUSE Communities
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; did they say anything at the end?
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; or just kept quiet and took notes?
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; checking boxes?
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they are not related to the landmord
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; and _think_m of buying
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; and he wants to present them a good set of "properties"
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; but who knows...
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; 4 hours for so many units seem rushed
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01:30 TR News; How to cache Ansible facts with MongoDB https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ansible-fact-cache-mongodb
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01:31 DaemonFC; No papers or anything.
01:31 DaemonFC; Nobody said anything to me. They just walked back out.
01:31 TR News; Marek Marczykowski-Grecki to be interviewed at Dasharo virtual event https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2023/03/15/marek-marczykowski-gorecki-interviewed-dasharo-virtual-event/
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01:31 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: ok, now you can both enjoy ma mclean home
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; and keep it clean
01:32 DaemonFC; I don't know. It just kind of creeped me out.
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he _consiers_ selling
01:32 DaemonFC; Maybe it was just the city looking for violations or something.
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; but does not wish to "alarm" tennats
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; *tenants
01:32 DaemonFC; They said they like to inspect apartment buildings every year.
01:33 DaemonFC; But they wouldn't tell me any more. They said I'd have to give them a FOIA request.
01:33 DaemonFC; What do you think?
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; hmmm...
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like a veiled threat
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01:34 DaemonFC; They said I wasn't the property owner so they couldn't tell me if it was a city inspection or not.
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; working in pairs?
01:34 DaemonFC; Three men.
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; how old?
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; uniforms?
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; tags?
01:34 DaemonFC; No uniforms. Just street clothes.
01:34 DaemonFC; They didn't go in the bedroom because Mandy was asleep.
01:34 DaemonFC; All I heard them ask was if the air conditioner worked.
01:35 DaemonFC; He said he hadn't had to replace an air conditioner in years.
01:35 DaemonFC; Then they left.
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01:35 DaemonFC; I asked him what this was about and he said it was just an inspection.
01:35 TR News; Qt Contributor Highlight: LukasKosiski https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-contributor-highlight-lukas-kosi%C5%84ski
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01:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], He has listings for rent but nothing in this building or "coming soon" here.
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; ok
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; not sure
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; but they did not work for the city
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; 2 people
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; no tags
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; no uniform
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; "inspection" is a vague term
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; sounds informal too
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01:36 schestowitz[TR]; making inventories
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; tryint to think what you can ask the landlord
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; positive-sounding
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; for clues
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01:38 DaemonFC; 3 people, no tags, no uniforms.
01:38 DaemonFC; Plus the landlord.
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; that's now what you wantd to hear
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; but since you asked
01:38 DaemonFC; 2 hours to "inspect" 35 units.
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01:39 schestowitz[TR]; landlord was present??
01:39 DaemonFC; Yeah.
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; oh.
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he shows off his wares
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; ore
01:39 DaemonFC; He escorted them through the place and then they left.
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; maybe something major happens
01:39 DaemonFC; Major?
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; and he needs to convince them it's all under control
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01:39 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes they lower the rent
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; to keep you there longer
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; while they pass potential buyers through your house
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; and don't want to cause it to become vacant "prematurely"
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; because "hey, why wait till the last minute?"
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; they did not say they worked for the city, did they?
01:41 DaemonFC; No they didn't.
01:41 DaemonFC; They didn't talk to me at all.
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; stopping short of lying
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; to not lie
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; but not state intentionss eitrher
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; sorry for typos
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; in a hurry overnight
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01:41 DaemonFC; You think they're potential buyers.
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; they asked if x worked
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; maybe other units did not have workign z/c
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; a/c is expensive
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; to repair OR replace
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; in the uk it's called "house survey"
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; but it's not 5 minutes
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; before you buy a home
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; costs about 800 pounds
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01:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I doubt they would have come in and out over a few minutes if they were considering buying.
01:45 DaemonFC; You'd have to have an extensive assessment of everything in the building to know if it was worth money or not.
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01:45 DaemonFC; You have no idea what you're buying without a review that is done by an expert of the whole property.
01:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], They're in for a surprise.
01:46 DaemonFC; A lot of the air conditioners don't work.
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01:47 DaemonFC; People are sticking trash bags in the window to seal in window units.
01:47 DaemonFC; Or just sticking fans in the window.
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01:51 AdmFubar; hhmm the emperor has no ai https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/chinese-search-giant-launches-ai-chatbot-with-prerecorded-demo/
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01:53 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], They're in for a surprise.
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; no
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; this is why they'd come in
01:53 DaemonFC; https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/417-Franklin-St-60085/home/17699244
01:53 TR Bot; Franklin St, Waukegan, IL 60085 | MLS# 11678921 | Redfin
01:53 DaemonFC; It is for sale.
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid the surprise
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; whose is that house?
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; landlord?
01:53 DaemonFC; Yeah.
01:53 schestowitz[TR]; oh
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's no good tyhen
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he's bust
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; maybe.
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; people nowadays say renting is lucrative
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; forgetting many did not pay, cannot pay, etc.
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01:57 schestowitz[TR]; sorry if this is not what you want to hear
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; better be hinged on reality then self-appeasing speculations
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; but i really don't know
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like a cover-up
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; he came to show people the homes
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; no meticulous checklist
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; no badges, uniform
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; inconsistent
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; hence, lying/coverup
01:58 schestowitz[TR]; not to alarm tennats
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01:58 schestowitz[TR]; chasing people for rent payments since 2020 has been unpleasant
01:58 schestowitz[TR]; you ask people for a limb
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01:59 schestowitz[TR]; if my gut feeling is correct, he might be looking to sell
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02:02 schestowitz[TR]; with microsoft ON THE PANELS
02:02 schestowitz[TR]; misleading.
02:02 schestowitz[TR]; they are pushing MSFT points
02:02 schestowitz[TR]; 3 microsofters there
02:03 schestowitz[TR]; and partners opn top of it
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02:17 t0talist; the year2038 poses a bigger risk than i thought, assuming if i am not mistaken, i386 with tcc is the only remaining clean system integration path, together with currently outdated kernel versions
02:18 t0talist; as a consequence, an upgrade to x86_64 with recent kernel version (v5.6 or later) is necessary, which the system integration of can be considered wrecked beyond repair
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02:20 t0talist; and the alternative isn't appealing either, because the related timespec patches required several iterations within kernel development (notable changes spanned accross linux-3.17, linux-5.0, and lately 5.6)
02:21 t0talist; so, it will be rather difficult, or close to impossible, to scrape a clean diff for that, to backport this to linux-2.4/2.6/3.2(?)
02:21 AdmFubar; naw gotta remember it is election season is coming quickly here in the us roy, the politicos are shaking down donors for dollars
02:22 t0talist; or, i could accept the fact, year2038 is the final deadline to linux, with the acceptance criteria i settled with
02:24 t0talist; the alternative would be, moving to x86_64, which is less prone to year2038 issues; however, to my knowledge tcc doesn't support kernel compilation yet, due to incomplete/absent assembler implementation
02:25 t0talist; aarch64 is no-go area for various reasons, mainly a missing alternative to GNU gas with x86_64-tcc (and some other issues on the side of uboot loader)
02:26 t0talist; with aarch32, i see no viable supply of relevant hardware, and last time i tried arm-tcc assmbler freaked out over most of what it was fed with
02:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], So there's a contingent offer.
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02:27 t0talist; long story short, i386 that's it mainly, as the bootstrapping path for GNU/linux, with tcc in between (that's what bootstrappable.org worked for)
02:27 DaemonFC; He's already accepted it. They were looking it over to see if it was worth their initial offer.
02:28 t0talist; to summarize the reasoning: the year2038 problem was coped with on linux only for those combinations of compilers/kernel-verions/hardware which doesn't comply with some other critical acceptance criteria
02:30 t0talist; and backporting the year2038 patches is probably very difficult, or impossible even
02:31 t0talist; why would i do it anyway? "hey, here's a kernel patchset for linux-2.6 i386, to support year2038"... "huh, what would we need that for?" waste of time
02:32 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/ai-evolution/
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02:32 t0talist; re-thinking, OpenBSD is still there... who had quickly implemented the year2038 patches of theirs, year 2014; however, last time OpenBSD verified a PCC compiler alternative for i386 was year 2007...; bam... similar problem
02:33 t0talist; and i suspect, even with PCC over there, they required binutils
02:33 t0talist; i don't accept those
02:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That's a lot of money they paid for this place.
02:33 DaemonFC; And in this economy.
02:34 DaemonFC; Almost $2.4 million?
02:34 DaemonFC; Our landlord only paid $865,000 in 2008.
02:34 DaemonFC; Plus interest rates are a lot higher now.
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; so maybe the new owners will ent also
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; maybe different rents
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; maybe you won't need to move
02:34 DaemonFC; They have to honor my current lease until November.
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
02:34 DaemonFC; No matter who owns the place.
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; hopefully nothing will chance
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; *change
02:35 DaemonFC; I think that this building was probably the landlord's least favorite.
02:35 DaemonFC; It has problems.
02:35 t0talist; just for fun, i will try to compile and boot a i386-tcc.iso system; knowing it's dead finally year2038
02:35 DaemonFC; They're in for some fun and they just don't know it yet.
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; so my guess was right all along
02:37 t0talist; OpenBSD, of cause, it's neat and quality, yet they suffer from many problems gnu/linux has too (compilers, hardware, acpi, uefi, firmware); and OpenBSD doesn't intersect with my interests that much, they got other priorities, which is immediate production-ready software
02:37 t0talist; and i won't accept llvm/clang
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02:39 t0talist; to summarize this again
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02:40 t0talist; GNU/linux got a trustworthy system-integration path for systems which aren't ready for year2038
02:40 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/18/chatgpt-said-i-did-not-exist-how-artists-and-writers-are-fighting-back-against-ai
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02:41 t0talist; currently, the trustworthy system-integration path isn't used by anyone, except bootstrappable.org (and little while ago aboriginal linux which was abandoned)
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02:42 t0talist; and that's probably the argument for year2038 support implemented rather late with linux-5.6, noone bothers with the trustworthy system-integration path which isn't ready for year2038, and probably never will be
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02:43 t0talist; and i think, it's almost scandalous, tcc support with linux didn't move ahead since version linux-2.4... almost 20 years ago
02:43 TR News; (NEW): Videos/Audio: MakuluLinux Max, BSD Now, and Linux Out Loud http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Videos_Audio_MakuluLinux_Max_BSD_Now_and_Linux_Out_Loud.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Videos_Audio_MakuluLinux_Max_BSD_Now_and_Linux_Out_Loud.gmi
02:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Audio: MakuluLinux Max, BSD Now, and Linux Out Loud
02:43 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Ksnip, Smile, and Reproducible Builds http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Free_Software_Ksnip_Smile_and_Reproducible_Builds.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Free_Software_Ksnip_Smile_and_Reproducible_Builds.gmi
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02:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Ksnip, Smile, and Reproducible Builds
02:44 t0talist; last time susematz tried, was linux-4.6, and this was only a partial success (he still needs gcc and gnu assembler, meaning it's a fail)
02:44 t0talist; in a way, linux abandoned a somewhat trustworthy compiler for almost 20years already
02:45 t0talist; the most recent cproc/qbe (evaluated among oasis linux), just mentioned it work-in-progress, to recover a trustworthy system integration, for linux
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02:46 t0talist; and, there just seems no thinking about this, whatsoever... except bootstrappable.org, and some other fringe projects (susematz, tccboot, oasis linux, aboriginal linux)
02:47 t0talist; all of it is, either incomplete, or abandoned and unmaintained
02:47 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-03-18.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-03-18.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they did not buy it to demolish it
02:47 schestowitz[TR]; the main question is, how much will they charge you?
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; btw, some nearby homes, very low grade old homes, were borded up this month
02:48 DaemonFC; That's a good question.
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; about 3 or 4 blocks of them
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 100 units
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; likely council houses
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; not sure what comes next
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you made a good impression
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; clean and tidu
02:48 DaemonFC; I could ask my landlord if he can start us over on a new lease for 12 months dated now.
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; that can help in negotiations
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, ask that
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; it'll help you "intel-gathering"
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; like, if he says,
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; how did you know it's sold?
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; and then figure out if they intend to rent out
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; and fee-hike
02:49 schestowitz[TR]; use loaded questions
02:50 DaemonFC; I can say I had my suspicions when there were a few men in street clothes that didn't seem to be from the city that were asking of my air conditioner worked.
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; like, "can we sign for another 12 months in case the new owner takes the price up?"
02:50 DaemonFC; I mean you don't have to be the kind of perception.
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; "will rent increase whenm they take over?"
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; "in case the new owners increase fees, can i pay you now in advance another 12 months?"
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; then see what he says
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; if they turn it into motel, you might know
02:51 DaemonFC; We've never given him any crap.
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; but you are not a single
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; you are a collectivce
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; the building/s
02:51 DaemonFC; This isn't zoned to be a motel.
02:52 DaemonFC; And nobody would open a motel here anyway.
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; ok
02:52 DaemonFC; So that's an illogical conclusion.
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, it'll still be there
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; and now cleaner
02:53 t0talist; i think, they'll just continue, what about risc-v, what about clang, what about rust, ... irelevenat
02:54 t0talist; none of it got a trustworthy and clean system integration path
02:54 t0talist; currently, it's i386-tcc with linux-2.4; and that's dead already, it'll finally be year2038
02:55 t0talist; meanwhile, at canonical, they swap wallpapers every few month, call that a new distro or release each... just brilliant
02:56 t0talist; what about bsd, what about gapple... they're all building upon the same fragile basis; it's all unstable, dirty, compromised
02:57 TR News; (NEW): Run Your Own Mail Server, Board of FSF, PG Day France 2023, Linux App Summit 2023, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Run_Your_Own_Mail_Server_Board_of_FSF_PG_Day_France_2023_Linux_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Run_Your_Own_Mail_Server_Board_of_FSF_PG_Day_France_2023_Linux_.gmi
02:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Run Your Own Mail Server, Board of FSF, PG Day France 2023, Linux App Summit 2023, and More
02:57 TR News; (NEW): SUSE Revenue and Code Release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/SUSE_Revenue_and_Code_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/SUSE_Revenue_and_Code_Release.gmi
02:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines SUSE Revenue and Code Release
02:58 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_leftovers.gmi
02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 t0talist; Bellard worked on qemu, who knows, they may not have been willing anylonger, to hack drivers and custom hardware support each few days for some other malware innovation
03:01 TR News; Many people doing jobs they hate (for 40+ years, 40+ hours a week), finding solace in the belief their kids will have it easier as a result. But in recent successive generations jobs became more oppressive and demanding. Many kids are unable to even find a job.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 416634 total Total number of pages in capsule: 45299 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 1 weeks 3 days ago
03:02 t0talist; year2038 problem is only solved for systems which i consider compromised
03:03 t0talist; and this problem, is much bigger, than year2k ever was
03:03 TR News; "I don't support women's rights. I once supported refugees - I cut onions to make lots of soup for refugees. I couldn't get them any of the information they wanted, but at least they had some soup." gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/support.gmi
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:03 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D535.jpg
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03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 TR News; "I decided to host my own server and start posting there, figured I'd let you guys know. I'll still be lurking around these parts though so don't go bad-mouthing me (I jest)." gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/notice
03:04 t0talist; that's why, i feel no comfort whatsoever, there is 14 years remaining
03:05 TR News; emacs and elfeed and youtube oh my gemini://zote.smol.pub/emacs-elfeed-youtube
03:05 t0talist; because, in the last decades, with each "innovation" systems had been more heavily compromised, at all layers, and this trend continues
03:06 t0talist; what's patched for year2038, will become just worse; and non-compromised systems with trustworthy system-integration are abandoned already, and not read for year2038
03:06 t0talist; amazing
03:06 t0talist; ready
03:07 t0talist; anyone could estimate, how many man-hours it would be, to backport year2038 patches from linux-5.6 to linux-2.4/2.6 (i386) ?
03:07 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/17/insecuring-your-home-and-data-ring-vendor-apparently-hit-with-ransomware-attack/
03:07 TR Bot; Your Home And Data: Ring Vendor Apparently Hit With Ransomware Attack | Techdirt
03:08 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/16/oregons-dmv-database-is-broken-and-that-means-innocent-people-are-spending-months-behind-bars/
03:08 TR Bot; DMV Database Is Broken And That Means Innocent People Are Spending Months Behind Bars | Techdirt
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03:10 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/15/copyright-means-you-may-need-permission-to-post-photos-of-your-own-home-online/
03:10 TR Bot; Means You May Need Permission To Post Photos Of Your Own Home Online | Techdirt
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03:10 t0talist; what i don't understand, when Bellard demonstrated tccboot, and support for linux-2.4... this was exceptional. why had not any "community" jumped at it and continued maintenance?
03:11 t0talist; almost 20 years later, the "community" wasted who knows tens thousands of man-hours, to hack llvm/clang and support for linux kernel, together with rust inside... silly
03:12 t0talist; what linux-2.4 with tcc support already, was superior to that, and it was mission accomplished, almost 20 years ago already
03:12 t0talist; and, abandoned. why?
03:12 AdmFubar; a deere caught on the spotlight https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/
03:12 TR Bot; John Deere, surrender your source code, demands SFC The Register
03:12 t0talist; even when, tcc had not been the mainline compiler, for verificiation and a chain of trust, it was highly benefitial... why then no interest in this? and instead billions wasted elsewhere.
03:13 t0talist; every few days, GNU/GCC boast about another extension for proprietary bloat added to their toolchain... and technews remained dead silent over tcc... why?
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03:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: can you see buyer's name?
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; check what else they bought or own
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:21 psydruid; > [notice] Microsoft: Russian hackers may be readying new wave of destructive attacks | CyberScoop
03:21 psydruid; "I'm an alien, I'm an illegal alien, I'm a Russian hacker in Redmond"
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; micreosoft did lots of russia-blamign lately
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; esp. wrt to Outlook
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; got holes/?
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; servers compromised?
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; "blamer Russia"
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; even if less than 10% of those breaches were tied to Russia
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; micreosoft is run by liars
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; and this is a pr STRETEGY
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; to blame "Russia"
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes c""china" and "north korea"
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; I did a video about it months ago
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; they also blame "open source"
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; if the brache is assisted by some tools
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; and the tools make some use of "open source"
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; like metsploits
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; *meta
03:27 t0talist; how many metasploits are there, to crack minix inside IntelME?
03:27 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: zero.
03:30 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: can you see buyer's name?
03:30 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> check what else they bought or own
03:30 DaemonFC; No, I can't see the buyer's name.
03:30 DaemonFC; It's "under contract" since 10 days ago.
03:32 TR News; Steam Spring Sale, Many titles at Great Prices, 1 Game For Free and Steam Deck gets a Celebration with a Discount https://boilingsteam.com/steam-spring-sale-many-titles-at-great-prices-1-game-for-free-and-steam-deck-gets-a-celebration-with-a-discount/
03:33 TR Bot; Steam Spring Sale, Many titles at Great Prices, 1 Game For Free and Steam Deck gets a Celebration with a Discount - Boiling Steam
03:33 TR News; The international criminal court issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin https://qz.com/icc-putin-ukraine-russia-hague-war-crime-1850238534
03:33 TR Bot; International war crime authorities want to arrest Putin
03:34 TR News; We are back to 15 years ago https://qz.com/the-feds-discount-window-is-lending-to-banks-at-2008-le-1850237214
03:34 TR Bot; The Fed's discount window is lending at 2008 levels
03:35 TR News; UK passport officials are going on strike for five weeks https://qz.com/uk-passport-officials-strike-dates-pay-raise-1850237187
03:35 TR Bot; Why UK Passport Officials are going on a 5-week strike
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; good thing rianne got hers friday... delivered in 24 hours
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; workers cannot make ends meet
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; strikes to comes
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; *come
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03:37 TR News; The CI/CD Process in a Cloud-Native World https://containerjournal.com/features/the-ci-cd-process-in-a-cloud-native-world/
03:37 TR Bot; The CI/CD Process in a Cloud-Native World - Container Journal
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03:40 TR News; Latitude Financial Services Data Breach Impacts 300,000 Customers https://www.securityweek.com/latitude-financial-services-data-breach-impacts-300000-customers/
03:40 TR Bot; Financial Services Data Breach Impacts 300,000 Customers - SecurityWeek
03:40 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/us-government-warns-organizations-of-lockbit-3-0-ransomware-attacks/
03:40 TR Bot; Government Warns Organizations of LockBit 3.0 Ransomware Attacks - SecurityWeek
03:40 TR News; New Trigona Ransomware Targets US, Europe, Australia https://www.securityweek.com/new-trigona-ransomware-targets-us-europe-australia/
03:40 TR Bot; 'Trigona' Ransomware Targets US, Europe, Australia - SecurityWeek
03:41 TR News; New Espionage Group YoroTrooper Targeting Entities in European, CIS Countries https://www.securityweek.com/new-espionage-group-yorotrooper-targeting-entities-in-european-cis-countries/
03:41 TR Bot; Espionage Group 'YoroTrooper' Targeting Entities in European, CIS Countries - SecurityWeek
03:41 TR News; Exploitation of Recent Fortinet Zero-Day Linked to Chinese Cyberspies https://www.securityweek.com/exploitation-of-recent-fortinet-zero-day-linked-to-chinese-cyberspies/
03:41 TR Bot; of Recent Fortinet Zero-Day Linked to Chinese Cyberspies - SecurityWeek
03:42 TR News; Godot Arrives in the Epic Games Store https://godotengine.org/article/godot-arrives-in-the-epic-games-store/
03:42 TR Bot; Godot Arrives in the Epic Games Store
03:43 TR News; Release candidate: Godot 4.0.1 RC 2 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-4-0-1-rc-2/
03:43 TR Bot; Release candidate: Godot 4.0.1 RC 2
03:45 TR News; How To Install Printrun on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-printrun-ubuntu-22-04/
03:45 TR Bot; How To Install Printrun on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
03:45 TR News; How To Check Disk Space on Linux: Simple Steps for Better Disk Management https://idroot.us/check-disk-space-linux/
03:45 TR Bot; How To Check Disk Space on Linux: Simple Steps for Better Disk Management - idroot
03:45 TR News; How To Install Xfce Desktop on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-xfce-desktop-ubuntu-22-04/
03:45 TR Bot; How To Install Xfce Desktop on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
03:45 TR News; How To Install BleachBit on Debian 11 https://idroot.us/install-bleachbit-debian-11/
03:45 TR Bot; How To Install BleachBit on Debian 11 - idroot
03:46 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> It's "under contract" since 10 days ago.
03:46 schestowitz[TR]; hopefully the devil you don't know is an angel
03:47 TR News; 3 Ways To Fix No Space Left on Device Error In Linux https://itsubuntu.com/3-ways-to-fix-no-space-left-on-device-error-in-linux/
03:47 TR Bot; Ways To Fix No Space Left On Device Error In Linux | Itsubuntu.com
03:47 TR News; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for February, 2023 https://internetfreedom.in/digital-transparency-a-right-to-information-report-for-february-2023-2/
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03:47 TR Bot; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for February, 2023
03:49 TR News; Thunderbird 102.9.0 is a security update for the open source email client https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/16/thunderbird-102-9-0-is-a-security-update-for-the-open-source-email-client/
03:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/16/thunderbird-102-9-0-is-a-security-update-for-the-open-source-email-client/ )
03:50 TR News; 11 Open Source Free Customer Feedback Tools https://medevel.com/11-os-customer-feedback-tools/
03:50 TR Bot; 11 Open Source Free Customer Feedback Tools
03:50 TR News; 12 Open Source Libraries to Build Telegram Bots https://medevel.com/12-tools-to-build-telegram-bots/
03:50 TR Bot; 12 Open Source Libraries to Build Telegram Bots
03:51 TR News; Yaber Pro V9 1080P Projector Review vs Yaber V10 & Ace K1 https://mightygadget.com/yaber-pro-v9-1080p-projector-review-vs-yaber-v10-ace-k1/
03:51 TR Bot; Yaber Pro V9 1080P Projector Review vs Yaber V10 & Ace K1
03:52 TR News; Cell phone not personal enough for GDPR protection?! https://noyb.eu/en/cell-phone-not-personal-enough-gdpr-protection
03:52 TR Bot; Cell phone not personal enough for GDPR protection?!
03:53 TR News; "Todd Hayen I find myself, uncharacteristically, wishing for bad things to happen regarding all this world take-over crap." https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/18/steady-burn/
03:53 TR Bot; Steady Burn OffGuardian
03:53 TR News; What one tweet can teach us about Fake News https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/17/what-one-tweet-can-teach-us-about-fake-news/
03:53 TR Bot; What one tweet can teach us about Fake News OffGuardian
03:56 TR News; Mike Blumenkrantz: Overdue https://www.supergoodcode.com/overdue/
03:56 TR Bot; Overdue Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
03:57 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/11 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2023/03/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2023-11/
03:57 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/11 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
03:58 TR News; SVB Financial Group files for bankruptcy https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/17/svb-financial-group-files-bankruptcy-works-sell-assets/
03:58 TR Bot; Financial Group files for bankruptcy as it works to sell assets - SiliconANGLE
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:59 TR News; Gulag discovers 18 vulnerabilities in multiple Samsung chips https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/17/google-discovers-18-vulnerabilities-multiple-samsung-chips/
03:59 TR Bot; discovers 18 vulnerabilities in multiple Samsung chips - SiliconANGLE
04:01 TR News; 21 .htaccess tricks that everyone should know https://tecadmin.net/htaccess-tricks-that-everyone-should-know/
04:01 TR Bot; 21 .htaccess tricks that everyone should know TecAdmin
04:01 TR News; 10 Strace Command Examples for Effective System Analysis in Linux https://tecadmin.net/strace-command-examples/
04:01 TR Bot; 10 Strace Command Examples for Effective System Analysis in Linux
04:01 TR News; Mastering the Strace Command in Linux: A Complete Guide https://tecadmin.net/strace-command-in-linux/
04:01 TR Bot; Mastering the Strace Command in Linux: A Complete Guide TecAdmin
04:01 TR News; Working with Processes and Services in Linux: A Beginners Guide https://tecadmin.net/working-with-processes-and-services-in-linux-a-beginners-guide/
04:01 TR Bot; Working with Processes and Services in Linux: A Beginner's Guide TecAdmin
04:02 TR News; How to Install a Non-Snap/.deb Version of Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 https://trendoceans.com/install-non-snap-firefox-on-ubuntu/
04:02 TR Bot; How to Install a Non-Snap/.deb Version of Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 - TREND OCEANS
04:02 TR News; How to get the latest version of GCC on Debian 11 / 10 https://unixcop.com/how-to-get-the-latest-version-gcc-debian/
04:02 TR Bot; How to get the latest version of GCC on Debian 11 / 10 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
04:04 TR News; Fedora Community Blog: Fridays Fedora Facts: 2023-11 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2023-11/
04:04 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2023-11 Fedora Community Blog
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04:04 TR News; Fedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly update Week 11 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-11/
04:04 TR Bot; CPE Weekly update Week 11 Fedora Community Blog
04:06 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 18, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
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04:06 TR News; Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt
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04:09 TR News; India: Internet shutdown capital of the world https://www.dw.com/en/india-internet-shutdown-capital-of-the-world/a-64997062
04:09 TR Bot; 'Internet shutdown capital of the world' DW 03/15/2023
04:09 TR News; Celebrating 60 Years of Gideon v. Wainwright https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/celebrating-sixty-years-of-gideon-v-wainwright
04:09 TR Bot; Celebrating 60 Years of Gideon v. Wainwright | ACLU
04:10 TR News; News Roundup: Sunshine Week and the Sunshine State https://www.americanoversight.org/news-roundup-sunshine-week-and-the-sunshine-state
04:10 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/news-roundup-sunshine-week-and-the-sunshine-state )
04:13 TR News; WisDuo RAK11720 LoRaWAN & Bluetooth LE module features Ambiq Apollo3 Blue low-power MCU https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/03/17/wisduo-rak11720-lorawan-bluetooth-le-module-features-ambiq-apollo3-blue-low-power-mcu/
04:13 TR Bot; WisDuo RAK11720 LoRaWAN & Bluetooth LE module features Ambiq Apollo3 Blue low-power MCU - CNX Software
04:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I sent the landlord an email.
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; better phone
04:15 DaemonFC; I just said that I was aware of the possibility that the property was for sale and I was inquiring about the possibility of starting over with a fresh 12 month lease.
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; so he cannot avoid
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; and you don't need to wait
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; biting your nails
04:15 DaemonFC; If he wants to answer it he will, if he doesn't he won't.
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; duh
04:16 DaemonFC; And emails can't go off the rails during the conversation or get heated.
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; what do you care? he's selling
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; you won't stop it
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; he won't tell the new owner
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; "ryan is an arsehole, evict him"
04:17 TR News; TikTok and Chinese Government Officials Push Back Against ByteDance Divestiture Demand As Bipartisan Criticism Continues https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/17/tiktok-ban-pushback-chinese-government/
04:17 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/17/tiktok-ban-pushback-chinese-government/ )
04:18 TR News; Old Backdoor, New Obfuscation, (Sat, Mar 18th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29646
04:18 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
04:19 DaemonFC; Well, it'll be whatever it'll be Roy.
04:20 TR News; Tmux Essentials: Start Using Terminal Multiplexing https://www.fosslinux.com/104046/tmux-essentials-start-using-terminal-multiplexing.htm
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 TR Bot; Tmux Essentials: Start Using Terminal Multiplexing
04:20 DaemonFC; We have the place for 7 more months and then we may have to move.
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; may
04:20 TR News; Tmux vs. Screen: Choosing the Right Multiplexer https://www.fosslinux.com/104048/tmux-vs-screen-choosing-the-right-multiplexer.htm
04:20 TR Bot; Tmux vs. Screen: Choosing the Right Multiplexer } FOSS Linux
04:20 DaemonFC; I'd really rather not.
04:20 TR News; The Ultimate Guide to Linux Mint Network Configuration https://www.fosslinux.com/105545/the-ultimate-guide-to-linux-mint-network-configuration.htm
04:20 TR Bot; The Ultimate Guide to Linux Mint Network Configuration
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; won't the buyer want you to stay?
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; what else can the unit be pruposed as?
04:21 TR News; How to use a proxy server in Linux Mint https://www.fosslinux.com/105489/using-a-proxy-server-in-linux-mint.htm
04:21 TR Bot; Using a Proxy Server in Linux Mint | FOSS Linux
04:21 TR News; Mastering Ubuntu Keyboard Shortcuts https://www.fosslinux.com/104435/mastering-ubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
04:21 TR Bot; Mastering Ubuntu Keyboard Shortcuts | FOSS Linux
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; if you buy and increase fees, you risk exodus
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; then it's a bad investmement
04:22 TR News; French MPs file no-confidence motion, clashes erupt over pension reform https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230317-fury-in-france-as-protesters-block-roads-following-macron-s-forced-through-pension-reform
04:22 TR Bot; French MPs file no-confidence motion, clashes erupt over pension reform
04:23 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> if you buy and increase fees, you risk exodus
04:23 DaemonFC; Exodus from Genesis
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04:25 t0talist; long story short, a backport of timespec64 to stable i386 linux kernels is not feasible
04:26 t0talist; they didn't even try, mainline, to provide a clean diff for this
04:27 t0talist; this leaves me with the following option then: to see timestamps overflow
04:27 t0talist; which might happen, before year2038 already, with any time_t related operation
04:28 AdmFubar; https://www.thedailybeast.com/openai-knows-gpt-4-is-dangerousbut-wont-do-a-damn-thing-about-it
04:28 TR Bot; OpenAI Knows GPT-4 Is Dangerousbut Wont Do a Damn Thing About It
04:28 TR News; 2 ways Install Nomacs on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 LTS https://linux.how2shout.com/2-ways-install-nomacs-on-ubuntu-22-04-or-20-04-lts/
04:28 TR Bot; 2 ways Install Nomacs on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 LTS - Linux Shout
04:28 TR News; What are Tar and Gz? Difference between them. https://linux.how2shout.com/what-are-tar-and-gz-difference-between-them/
04:29 TR Bot; What are Tar and Gz? Difference between them. - Linux Shout
04:29 TR News; How to Install OpenLDAP Server and Client on Rocky Linux 9 https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openldap-on-rocky-linux-9/
04:29 TR Bot; How to Install OpenLDAP Server and Client on Rocky Linux 9
04:30 t0talist; next best option, is sticking to x86_64 kernel with 64bit time_t; yet for this the tcc "mob" branch didn't bother with x86_64 support, in particular the assembler
04:30 t0talist; and this raises a whole bunch of further questions, where there isn't any alternative to GNU gas for this
04:30 t0talist; which too backfires, what quality x86_64 is, the whole platform of it
04:31 t0talist; meaning, there is many other reasons, to refrain from this
04:32 t0talist; otherwise, moving towards 64bit was desireable, it's just i consider the hardware and software options available, worse, than i386 was
04:32 t0talist; it's a dilemma
04:34 TR News; 7 Open Source Tools That Benefit IT Operations Teams https://www.itprotoday.com/it-operations/7-open-source-tools-benefit-it-operations-teams
04:34 TR Bot; 7 Open Source Tools for IT Operations Teams | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
04:34 t0talist; the severity of this problem, year2038, is underestimated, for another reason than year2038 itself, which is it _enforces_ an upgrade to systems which are compromised that heavily
04:34 t0talist; i am not sure, if an overflow back to year 1970 was a lesser evil
04:36 TR News; This is pure spam disguised as an 'article' in JUVE, a lousy propaganda apparatus of litigation firms; it is habitually promoting false "news" and pushing for illegal things like UPC. https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/withers-rogers-strengthens-paris-team-with-bardehle-patent-attorney/
04:36 TR Bot; Withers & Rogers strengthens Paris team with Bardehle patent attorney - JUVE Patent
04:37 TR News; How to Install Audacity on Fedora Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-audacity-on-fedora-linux/
04:37 TR Bot; to Install Audacity on Fedora Linux - LinuxCapable
04:37 TR News; How to Install LEMP on Fedora Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-lemp-on-fedora-linux/
04:37 TR Bot; to Install LEMP on Fedora Linux - LinuxCapable
04:38 TR News; How to Install Fail2ban with Firewalld on Fedora Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-fail2ban-with-firewalld-on-fedora-linux/
04:38 TR Bot; to Install Fail2ban with Firewalld on Fedora Linux - LinuxCapable
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: in https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/417-Franklin-St-60085/home/17699244 is that a good unit?
04:40 TR Bot; Franklin St, Waukegan, IL 60085 | MLS# 11678921 | Redfin
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; i imagine they took the mintest of them all on a sunny day
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; so in practice it's many messed up units
04:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, my apartment isn't that nice.
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; built 1971
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; Est. Mo. Payment
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; $17,007
04:42 DaemonFC; Those pics look like they just redid everything almost in that unit.
04:43 schestowitz[TR]; Sep 1993, Sold for $550,000
04:43 DaemonFC; Yeah, it's like buying a car and then figuring out slowly why the last person sold it to you.
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: so is it like the "Dating site" for homes
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; Beau-ICK!!
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; not a beauty
04:44 DaemonFC; Yeah, nothing's been around since 1971 without problems.
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; just ick!
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; depeneds
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; in 1971 they used better materials for some homes
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; less glass and plastics
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; now they build homes like they do cars
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; poud out celement
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; put some large glasses for walls
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; add some metal connectors
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; slap a price on it
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; of course they don't last very long
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; weather conditions, rusting, burst pipes
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; *pour out
04:47 TR News; Wine 8.4 released with initial native support for Wayland https://www.neowin.net/news/wine-84-released-with-initial-native-support-for-wayland/
04:47 TR Bot; Wine 8.4 released with initial native support for Wayland - Neowin
04:50 TR News; SVB's European Shockwaves: Silicon Valley Brings Disruption to Global Finance https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/svb-s-european-shockwaves-silicon-valley-brings-disruption-to-global-finance-a-5ec8b93d-b3be-44d7-9968-8a54d83051eb
04:50 TR Bot; SVB's European Shockwaves: Silicon Valley Brings Disruption to Global Finance - DER SPIEGEL
04:51 t0talist; ministry of finance, germany, Christian Lindner, argued, a misunderstanding existed, concerned with government spendings
04:51 t0talist; 1) there is demands for more
04:51 TR News; SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 Public RC is out! https://www.suse.com/c/suse-linux-enterprise-micro-5-4-public-rc-is-out/
04:51 TR Bot; Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 Public RC is out! | SUSE Communities
04:51 TR News; SUSE Manager and the A-REST API https://www.suse.com/c/suse-manager-and-the-rest-api/
04:51 TR Bot; Manager and the A-REST API | SUSE Communities
04:52 t0talist; 2) although, the current spendings are difficult or close to impossible to finance already
04:52 t0talist; Lindner argued, to cut spendings, contrary to demands (surrounding SVB for example), wishtinking to increase government spendings
04:52 TR News; Paris Suffers From Piling Up Of Over 10 000 Tons Of Garbage https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Paris-Suffers-From-Piling-Up-Of-Over-10-000-Tons-Of-Garbage-20230317-0019.html
04:52 TR Bot; Paris Suffers From Piling Up Of Over 10 000 Tons Of Garbage | News | teleSUR English
04:53 t0talist; 3) SVB, sticking to this example, filed bancruptcy (or whatever this is), because SVB "invested" into government bonds
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; invest in mine
04:53 t0talist; a government, which is asked to bail-out, with money government doesn't have
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; i invest in yours
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; we prop up each other's value
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; and build a bubble
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; pay oneself bonuses
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; until it explodes
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; then we compel taxpayers to pay
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; not only with inflation but also bailout
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; ponzi schemes used to be illegal
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; now they are a "norm"
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; many companies are just enrons
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; buying their OWN shares
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; to inflate the price
04:54 t0talist; poof, and that's the moment when, higher government spendings and taxation increased, potentially strangles economy
04:54 t0talist; there's no free lunch with this
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; then there are no jobs
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; and they blamne the public
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; |lazy"
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Germany's Migration About-Face: Berlin Seeking to Recruit Skilled Labor from Africa https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/germany-s-migration-about-face-berlin-seeking-to-recruit-skilled-labor-from-africa-a-852f56d6-da9d-4985-a82d-14bd3df460e4
04:55 TR Bot; Germany's Migration About-Face: Berlin Seeking to Recruit Skilled Labor from Africa - DER SPIEGEL
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; from #techpol
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; nobody in germany can do those jobs
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; nobody
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; worse
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; nobody can be trained to do those jobs
04:56 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: we got enough people for labor market here, population size increased, almost +4million
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; germans are unable to work
04:56 t0talist; maybe
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; satire
04:56 t0talist; yet it was dozens of immigrants, who arrived
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; "hey, don't be a nazi"
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; "don't be lazy"
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; "we want insecure labour"
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; "we can overwork them"
04:57 t0talist; and if a question mark was raised over german productivity, the question mark over immigration is tripple the size nowadays
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; "if they don't work very hard, we'll deport them"
04:57 t0talist; that's not an opinion, that's a fact
04:57 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: immigrants aren't deported
04:57 t0talist; if at all, they are sent back home, and only if it is possible, that's the current status
04:58 t0talist; and otherwise, i got one or another opinion about this, which doesn't belong here
04:58 TR News; Intel cannot compete at this scale https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cancels-thunder-bay-soc
04:58 TR Bot; Intel Reportedly Cancels Thunder Bay Hybrid SoC | Tom's Hardware
04:58 t0talist; *dozens of millions
04:59 t0talist; government is lying about this data too
04:59 TR News; Yes, sanctions are mostly failing. They even sell energy (to other markets, with a cap). https://www.tomshardware.com/news/despite-sanctions-russia-keeps-getting-pcs
04:59 TR Bot; Despite Sanctions, Russians Still Obtaining Latest PCs From Major Brands | Tom's Hardware
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 t0talist; meanwhile, in Switzerland, they seem desperate, with their bail-out of banks, before stock-exchanges open next monday...
04:59 t0talist; weird... this is what they said, on the radio
04:59 DaemonFC; https://www.geekwire.com/2023/seattle-leaders-make-plea-for-workers-to-return-downtown-and-help-address-remote-work-affliction/
04:59 TR Bot; leaders make plea for workers to return downtown and help address 'remote work affliction' GeekWire
04:59 DaemonFC; LOL
05:00 TR News; You Can Add a Second HDMI Port to a Laptop with Raspberry Pi https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rapberry_pi_hdmi_port
05:00 TR Bot; You Can Add a Second HDMI Port to a Laptop with Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware
05:00 schestowitz[TR]; geekwire = microsoft
05:00 schestowitz[TR]; mouth of bill
05:01 t0talist; ECB raised base rates of interests, for government bonds, this didn't hit the balance sheets yet... and it's too late already
05:01 t0talist; same with the layoffs, at facebook and elsewhere
05:01 TR News; Jeffrey M. Gross entity, Focus Global Solutions, patent prior art found https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/3/17/jeffrey-m-gross-entity-focus-global-solutions-patent-prior-art-found
05:01 TR Bot; Jeffrey M. Gross entity, Focus Global Solutions, patent prior art found Unified Patents
05:01 t0talist techright-pol techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news Techrights-sec Techrights-sec2 techrights[sec] techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr techuser tessier
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; t0talist: intel offered germany facilities
05:01 t0talist; all this, is that heavily overrated, those layoffs, even when tragical, are merely theater, to appease shareholders
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; BUT
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; the Germany PUBLIC will need to PAY for it
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; bribes of sorts
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; they say "subsidise" or or bail us out
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; and we'll then hire some people in germany
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; they might not even be germans
05:02 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: i don't want Intel, they don't belong into east-germany
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, this ploy waas called out on
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; trump did with taiwan some stuff as well
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; and with PRC, foxconn
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; ohio, iirc
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; taxpayers sending their money to other countries
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; to enrich foreign oligarchs
05:03 t0talist; they're harmful even, on top of the subsidies paid with taxes, add to this the damages a company such as intel caused
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; imagine sunak saying he agreed with russian gas company to "cretae jobs" in the UK
05:03 t0talist; not only to germany, to the whole "free software"
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; but we need to pay 5 billion pounds for this to happen
05:03 t0talist; i was writing about this, in recent two days
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; gazprom
05:04 t0talist; schestowitz[TR]: they're all operating on fraudulent data anyway
05:04 t0talist; the whole accounting, isn't credible anymore
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; "lobbying"
05:04 t0talist; btw. UK did connect to Nordstream from Gazprom, that's not some speculation and theory
05:05 t0talist; and yes, energy/gas business, does create jobs
05:05 t0talist; and any other business, which requires it, gas/energy, won't exist, without it
05:05 t0talist; nonetheless, the whole accounting and reporting, is fraudulent anyway
05:06 t0talist; they wishtinked much more than there was, long before gazprom connected nordstream2 (that was the "leakage" story)
05:07 DaemonFC; Our government giving trillions to banks and wars and shit.
05:07 DaemonFC; Leaving people to go homeless. What else is new?
05:08 t0talist; DaemonFC: how big it is. this time. i don't know.
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05:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it was always true to some extent
05:20 schestowitz[TR]; but getting worse
05:21 DaemonFC; https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/south-korea-longer-work-week-debate-intl-hnk/index.html
05:21 TR Bot; South Korea planned a 69-hour work week. Millennials and generation Z had other ideas | CNN
05:21 DaemonFC; Damned Millennials and GenZ. Not wanting a 69 hour workweek.
05:22 DaemonFC; Already living in a high suicide country that costs a lot.
05:23 t0talist; productivity doesn't equate to, nor necessarily improve with increased working hours
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05:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, productivity per person goes down with each hour because you wear them out.
05:24 DaemonFC; Eventually they're so drained from working that they can't do much work anymore even if they want to.
05:25 DaemonFC; Then eventually they're literally always at work and then more kill themselves because there's no longer any point at life.
05:25 MinceR; sociopaths seem to have trouble understanding this
05:26 DaemonFC; You have all of these people around you figuring that the only point of your life is to work for them. Or to pay them rent money, etc. They're parasites.
05:26 DaemonFC; They take and take and either give you nothing, create nothing, or just give you barely enough in return to keep going a little longer.
05:27 DaemonFC; Sometimes I can't even sleep because of the horror of what the world is now.
05:27 DaemonFC; I could never have a family even if I wanted one.
05:27 DaemonFC; I can barely afford to keep myself going.
05:29 TR News; (NEW): Wine 8.4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Wine_8_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Wine_8_4.gmi
05:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Wine 8.4
05:30 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Security_Leftovers.gmi
05:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
05:31 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
05:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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05:35 MinceR; it's better not to reproduce in this world
05:36 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's the ironic part.
05:36 DaemonFC; You can barely get by and people still have kids.
05:37 DaemonFC; They want a world that is getting worse by the minute for their kids?
05:45 TR News; "PiEEG aims to let people control robots and computers with their minds, using a Raspberry Pi." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/88x99k/this-affordable-device-will-let-anyone-connect-their-brain-to-a-computer
05:45 TR Bot; Affordable Device Will Let Anyone Connect Their Brain to a Computer
05:46 TR News; New Talk: Richard Stallman Explains His Problem With Rust (Trademark Restrictions), Openwashing (Including Linux Kernel), Machine Learning, and the JavaScript Trap http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/rms-talk-for-latest-perils/
05:46 TR Bot; New Talk: Richard Stallman Explains His Problem With Rust (Trademark Restrictions), Openwashing (Including Linux Kernel), Machine Learning, and the JavaScript Trap | Techrights
05:46 TR News; The European Patent Offices Central Staff Committee Explains the Situation at the EPO to the Yes Men of Antnio Campinos (Who is Stacking All the Panels) http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/central-staff-committee-on-team-campinos/
05:46 TR Bot; The European Patent Offices Central Staff Committee Explains the Situation at the EPO to the Yes Men of Antnio Campinos (Who is Stacking All the Panels) | Techrights
05:48 TR News; TTAB Affirms Geographical Descriptiveness Refusal of "SOHO INK" for Tattoo Ink http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/03/ttab-affirms-geographical.html
05:48 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTAB Affirms Geographical Descriptiveness Refusal of "SOHO INK" for Tattoo Ink
05:49 TR News; RetroArch 1.15.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/03/retroarch-1-15-0-released-install-ubuntu/
05:49 TR Bot; RetroArch 1.15.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 | UbuntuHandbook
05:52 TR News; Has CCIA occupied itself with patent maximalists now? https://www.patentprogress.org/2023/03/as-china-prioritizes-its-patent-system-america-must-do-the-same-and-more/
05:52 TR Bot; As China Prioritizes Its Patent System, America Must Do the Same and More - Patent Progress
05:53 TR News; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm in hard freeze https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/03/msg00004.html
05:53 TR Bot; Bits from the Release Team: bookworm in hard freeze
05:55 TR News; LOL. "hibernation" is the new recession... must be "slowing growth" https://yle.fi/a/74-20022876
05:55 TR Bot; Bank of Finland: Finnish economy in hibernation | News | Yle Uutiset
05:55 DaemonFC; https://www.madinamerica.com/2022/01/roll-988-threatens-anonymity-crisis-hotlines/
05:55 TR Bot; Roll-out of 988 Threatens Anonymity of Crisis Hotlines - Mad In America
05:55 DaemonFC; Then if you call 988 they trace you. It's not anonymous.
05:55 DaemonFC; They want a list of anyone who contemplates suicide. A database. Like the no fly list or something.
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05:56 DaemonFC; "It took nearly two years of denied interview requests and stalled freedom of information access efforts to wrest data from SAMHSA showing that Lifelines covert call-tracing practices affect tens of thousands of callers every year. In November of 2020, Mad in America reported on people whod had life-upending and often traumatizing experiences when Lifeline conversations theyd been assured were anonymous and confidential??
05:56 DaemonFC; ? in fact resulted in them getting visited by police at their homes, schools, or workplaces, and detained against their will in psychiatric hospitals."
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05:57 DaemonFC; "At the time of their calls, none were intending to or in the process of killing themselves; all were baffled by why theyd been targeted for forced interventions. And indeed, the Lifelines Imminent Risk and Active Rescue policies and training show that calls may be traced for a wide variety of vaguely defined rationales intended to help people."
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05:58 TR News; Alexander Mikhaylenko: Libadwaita 1.3 https://blogs.gnome.org/alexm/2023/03/17/libadwaita-1-3/
05:58 TR Bot; Libadwaita 1.3 Just another blog
05:59 TR News; Sam Thursfield: Status update 17/03/2023 https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2023/03/17/status-update-17-03-2023/
05:59 TR Bot; Status update 17/03/2023 Sam Thursfield
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:59 TR News; GNOME Felix Hcker: #87 Editable Shortcuts https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2023/03/twig-87/
05:59 TR Bot; #87 Editable Shortcuts This Week in GNOME
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: there will be no more suicidal people
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; you swat them
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; or end them with their own help
06:02 schestowitz[TR]; then you can say there is a decrease in distress calls
06:02 DaemonFC; "The STPC pledged to provide training/education to crisis center staff on the impact of dispatching emergency services. This training would emphasize the potential physical dangers, trauma, criminalization, stigmatization, and possible financial consequences of call tracing, especially on persons from historically victimized/oppressed communities. And the STPC vowed to include individuals from impacted communities with lived
06:02 DaemonFC; experience in developing the training.
06:02 DaemonFC; "
06:02 DaemonFC; Yeah, exactly.
06:02 DaemonFC; You send cops, nobody calls. Word gets around.
06:02 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam, Godot, and RetroArch http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Games_Steam_Godot_and_RetroArch.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Games_Steam_Godot_and_RetroArch.gmi
06:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam, Godot, and RetroArch
06:03 DaemonFC; People stop calling and just shoot themselves if that's what they're going to do.
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: lower "market demand" for cops
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; it's a "glowing growth"
06:03 DaemonFC; "Active Rescue"
06:03 schestowitz[TR]; active shooter
06:03 DaemonFC; You are being rescued. Please do not resist!
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; everything is a mission/operationm
06:04 DaemonFC; ChatGPT says if you're feeling hopelessly depressed, call these people.
06:04 schestowitz[TR]; "YOU ARE A RISK"(to yourself)
06:05 DaemonFC; "In a foreboding sign of what was to come, though, the STPC backed away from increased transparency. LEC members wanted to purge NSPL policies, training, and communications of the misleading euphemism Active Rescue, and suggested the matter-of-fact, Sending Law Enforcement. However, the STPC did not even include this as an option for consideration, and instead floated other euphemisms like Non-collaborative Emergency Intervention.
06:05 DaemonFC;
06:05 DaemonFC; "
06:05 DaemonFC; Non-collaborative Emergency Intervention!
06:05 DaemonFC; Wow, that's even worse.
06:07 DaemonFC; "Calls are currently routed to the geographically closest NSPL call centers based on callers area codes. To get a call traced, NSPL call-responders must contact a 911 dispatch center to do it. But Vibrant Emotional Health and NSPL leaders have begun lobbying the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and federal government for direct control over cutting-edge call-tracing technologies. In April of 2021, the FCC issued a 21-page report o
06:07 DaemonFC; n discussions exploring the possibility of incorporating mass surveillance and geolocation tracking into 988 functionality, and in November a report and order on texting to 988."
06:08 DaemonFC; "Both reports are instructive for their descriptions of how such tracing works. Currently, calling 911 activates a special emergency mode in any mobile device. Called Enhanced-911 or E911 functionality, the device immediately, automatically gathers and transmits a slew of personal and geolocation information thats then made available to emergency responders. Since 2015, the FCC has been gradually implementing NG91
06:08 DaemonFC; 1, or Next Generation 911requiring mobile service providers to adopt the latest, most advanced technologies for geolocation accuracy. NG911 functionalitywhich, like E911, is being built into all mobile devices and cannot be shut down by device ownerswill identify a devices location anywhere to within three meters on three-dimensional x, y, z coordinates, including, for example, exactly where a person is located within an apartment
06:08 DaemonFC; building."
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06:10 t0talist; anyway, to avoid the year2038 problem, a viable option is moving to 64bit (x86_64), obviously
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06:11 DaemonFC; Do you think that anyone in today's world is going to fix that?
06:12 t0talist; for this, i recall issues with tcc and assembly support, for x86_64; and x86_64 compilation had never been known to be supported with linux
06:12 t0talist; which i was willing to hack
06:12 t0talist; howver... assembly, the fun begins, when anyone wanted to avoid binutils and GNU gas
06:13 t0talist; there's other x86_64 assemblers available: yasm, fasm, nasm
06:13 TR News; Revisionism? https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/svb-employees-blame-remote-work-for-bank-failure
06:13 TR Bot; SVB employees blame remote work for bank failure
06:14 t0talist; those, either do not support GNU gas syntax, or their build-system is locked into - again - gnu autotools, which i wanted to avoid, to begin with
06:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I feel like there's nowhere to turn for help.
06:14 DaemonFC; Everyone wants to spy on you, send the police, drive you into medical debt, force you into an inpatient center. Nobody listens.
06:14 TR News; SVB Financial files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/sbv-chapter-11
06:14 TR Bot; SVB Financial files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
06:14 t0talist; i mean, tcc compiler was never verified with x86_64 linux
06:15 t0talist; for several reasons
06:15 DaemonFC; I cannot ever risk encountering another police officer.
06:15 DaemonFC; For any reason.
06:15 TR News; Gulag bans far less extreme chanels https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/trump-youtube-suspension-restored
06:15 TR Bot; YouTube restores Trump's account after 2-year suspension
06:16 t0talist; anyway, available assemblers are a problem; those either do not support GNU gas syntax, or those require GNU build-system
06:16 TR News; But thise entire industry [sic] is repeat offenders https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/biden-congress-penalties-bank-executives-svb
06:16 TR Bot; Biden to Congress: Ban execs of failed banks from the industry
06:17 t0talist; with i386-tcc, gnu buildsystem isn't required (autohell), and it was eating most GNU gas inside kernel
06:17 TR News; Pension pains plague Paris, as Macron raises retirement age by force https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2023/0317/Pension-pains-plague-Paris-as-Macron-raises-retirement-age-by-force
06:17 TR Bot; citizens strike back against Macron's pension bill - CSMonitor.com
06:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What do you make of this Trump arrest that's apparently coming up this week.
06:17 DaemonFC; He's encouraging his supporters to riot again.
06:18 t0talist; x86_64-tcc, didn't iirc... need to check again;
06:18 TR News; Andrea Corbellini: On ignoring mistakes, resilience, and the hidden dangers therein https://andrea.corbellini.name/2023/03/18/mistakes/
06:18 TR Bot; On ignoring mistakes, resilience, and the hidden dangers therein - Andrea Corbellini
06:19 TR News; (NEW): EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.1 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/EasyOS_Kirkstone_series_version_5_1_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/EasyOS_Kirkstone_series_version_5_1_released.gmi
06:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.1 released
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06:20 t0talist; with linux-4.6, susematz chose to use GNU gas assembler, instead of tcc... and that's the whole point of it, to avoid those binutils, as a verification, to establish a chain of trust
06:20 TR News; GNU Health: Leading Public Mental Health Hospital in Argentina embraces GNU Health https://my.gnusolidario.org/2023/03/18/leading-public-mental-health-hospital-in-argentina-embraces-gnu-health/
06:20 TR Bot; Leading Public Mental Health Hospital in Argentina embraces GNU Health MyGNUSolidario | GNU Solidario
06:21 TR News; What are the Benefits of Lambdas in Java http://knowledgebasement.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-lambdas-in-java/
06:21 TR Bot; What are the Benefits of Lambdas in Java |
06:22 t0talist; i see a little chance, to slip through with linux-2.6(3.2?) and x86_64-tcc, and some patched musl-libc
06:24 t0talist; and there is an important difference to bootstrappable.org, who use tcc for bootstrapping as an intermediate step only; to build the whole GNU toolchain and buildsystem monstrosity instantly
06:25 t0talist; while i, instead, want to fork, to avoid just that, particular GNU toolchain and buildsystem, and stick to tcc _only_ to built the system upon
06:26 t0talist; which i already got, except kernel and libc, with the related problems of assembler support, and year2038 related to 64bit hardware/software
06:26 t0talist; and kernel and libc, both lock into, guess what: GNU gas
06:28 t0talist; long story short, without GNU gas or llvm and their assembler, there's no way to go
06:29 t0talist; i can live with hacking assembly, i am not willing to do it the GNU way down there, with hundreds of quirks and tweaks and syntax variants
06:29 t0talist; that's why, the i386-tcc implementation is precious, yet useless beyond year2038
06:30 t0talist; and it's probably another reason why, IBM Wintel Gapple push towards 64bit, with forced upgrades, and sacrificing a clean system integration over this
06:31 t0talist; because they know, year2038, they had waited too long, to stabilize this for 32bit
06:32 t0talist; GNU/linux btw. are working on i386 year2038 transition, almost 10 years already; and it's barely stabilized on the current 5.10LTS
06:33 t0talist; which ironically, rarely every is deployed onto x86 32bit...
06:34 t0talist; it is their older kernels which were (3.2LTS series for example), which no backportings exists for; in userland too
06:35 t0talist; anyway, for simplicity, let's say when those 5.10LTS kernels and later do not fail over year2038, there is many other reasons up until then
06:35 t0talist; i am not willing to place any bets onto this anylonger
06:36 t0talist; well, to compile all this, you need a recent c++ compiler already (reminder, >=gcc-4.9 and llvm are c++ compilers, even when these emit something else)
06:36 t0talist; something else, such as rust, that's just another dialect for this chaos
06:39 t0talist; with the assembly issues, it's merely digging down deeper, into the GNU Wintel Gapple mudhole
06:40 t0talist; those incompatible assembly syntax variants, that's another epic kneeyerk
06:41 t0talist; i wouldn't know, for x86(64)... how many are there (no expert on this, not yet): gas, yasm, fasm, nasm, and last but not least tccasm
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07:15 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> "YOU ARE A RISK"(to yourself)
07:15 DaemonFC; I would be. There's not much left.
07:16 DaemonFC; What would happen to Mandy, maybe. Not that he even cares or realizes it.
07:16 t0talist; and there might be something else, which is slightly irking me, with x86_64: the MMU (paged memory), the whole memory management, including the iommu stuff
07:17 t0talist; for an unspecific reason, the nommu support with linux, cought my attention sporadically
07:17 DaemonFC; I'm kicking myself every day for not just walking out of that police station and in front of a train.
07:17 DaemonFC; Now the only reason I'm alive is because I'm guilting myself over what would happen to one person and two cats.
07:18 DaemonFC; It hasn't been fun in a long time. I'm bored.
07:18 DaemonFC; I've lived too long.
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07:19 DaemonFC; Even getting a place to live is a challenge now. It was never a challenge before.
07:19 DaemonFC; Landlords would rather let the fucking place go empty than rent to someone that isn't a sure bet.
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07:26 t0talist; this is what the GNU/linux year2038 endeavour missed: some might have been willing to backport a clean diff/patch, to older kernel versions (predating C11, predating gcc-4.9)
07:27 t0talist; and it's just impossible, for me, to pull such a clean diff from linux-5.10LTS, for year2038 support, leave alone the whole glibc/libc/userspace issues related
07:28 t0talist; instead, linux, just designated, kernel 3.2 for example, and 3.16, EOL...; 4.4EOL... all those have something in common, missing year2038
07:29 t0talist; it's a rather aggressive approach, to phase out kernels and compilers, even when those had advantages over the recent ones
07:29 t0talist; linux, effectively phased out tcc too...
07:30 t0talist; the kernel version susematz tested for tcc, was linux-4.6... which isn't year2038 compliant either
07:31 t0talist; and in the linux-5.x series, the trouble with C11 awaits besides
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07:34 t0talist; another interesting side-effect: linux-2.6, x86(32bit), tcc compiler, nommu... all this is features and characteristics, relevant to _embedded_ systems, which linux was strong with
07:35 t0talist; and most of what was deployed, is EOL, not supported, incomplete, unstable, insecure, something something
07:36 t0talist; since *BSD are unix alike, they're trouble likewise, too, almost always, building upon the same hardware/firmware/bios
07:36 t0talist; UEFI/ACPI all that, it's reason enough to run away, as fast as possible, wherever this showed up
07:37 t0talist; for one or another reasons, with lower-level embedded realtime stuff, some developers prefer to know, what's going on
07:37 t0talist; older Z80, with SRAM, could be single stepped, synchronous... to my limited understanding
07:38 t0talist; little while ago, i tried to assemble an address map, for an aarch64 SBC... i had given up
07:38 t0talist; there was several dozen MiB of RAM gone missing somewhere, i couldn't track down anywhere
07:42 t0talist; something else, seems interesting, which is, Microsoft products may not be affected by Year2038 and 32bit
07:43 t0talist; and at the time when, 64bit was pushed aggressively, among *Nix, they priority would have been stabilization of year2038 already, 10 years earlier than they began doing it
07:43 t0talist; at the time, when tccboot with linux-2.4 was showcased, that was the time, to cleanup
07:44 t0talist; however, *nix and GNU/linux, rather "competed" with their sponsors i gather, at the same time, the whole ACPI/USB fuckery showed up
07:53 t0talist; and linux, designated rather many of their branches EOL, rather often, rather quickly
07:54 t0talist; what i don't understand is, linux preferred to support llvm/clang, instead of what already existed, for almost 20 years, tccboot... why???
07:56 t0talist; allright, so much i gather, tcc emerged in france, at a university, not some mega-corporation in USA
07:56 t0talist; is this it?
07:57 t0talist; oh yes, RedHat, who sponsored this one...
07:57 t0talist; for the same reason, i refused to use any microsoft products, that's why to abstain from linux nowadays
07:59 t0talist; i am in bad mood, sadly, because that's not helpful
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08:28 t0talist; it seems, chose another approach to year2038, implementing a compatibility layer... OpenBSD may not have
08:32 t0talist; linux
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08:41 DaemonFC; https://news.yahoo.com/silicon-valley-bank-collapse-concerns-051241484.html
08:41 TR Bot; Silicon Valley Bank collapse concerns founders of color
08:41 DaemonFC; LOL
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09:35 TR News; But isn't Facebook all about a large pool of fools posting medical information about themselves? https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3903652-patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/
09:35 TR Bot; Patient's 'embarrassing' private health information posted to Facebook after Contra Costa County medical privacy breach
09:37 TR News; Break-in poses security threat to Multnomah County Health Department patients - oregonlive.com https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2023/03/break-in-poses-security-threat-to-multnomah-county-health-department-patients.html
09:37 TR Bot; poses security threat to Multnomah County Health Department patients - oregonlive.com
09:41 TR News; "The NBA (National Basketball Association) is notifying fans of a data breach after some of their personal information, "held" by a third-party newsletter service, was stolen." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nba-alerts-fans-of-a-data-breach-exposing-personal-information/
09:41 TR Bot; NBA alerts fans of a data breach exposing personal information
09:43 TR News; Atlanta man sentenced to federal prison in connection with a multi-million dollar international cyber and fraud scheme https://www.databreaches.net/atlanta-man-sentenced-to-federal-prison-in-connection-with-a-multi-million-dollar-international-cyber-and-fraud-scheme/
09:43 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/atlanta-man-sentenced-to-federal-prison-in-connection-with-a-multi-million-dollar-international-cyber-and-fraud-scheme/ )
09:45 TR News; But people buy these to AVOID Microsoft https://www.xda-developers.com/how-use-powershell-chromebook/
09:45 TR Bot; How to use PowerShell on a Chromebook
09:46 TR News; 6 Ways to Find a Raspberry Pi's IP Address https://www.makeuseof.com/ways-to-find-raspberry-pi-ip-address/
09:46 TR Bot; 6 Ways to Find a Raspberry Pi's IP Address
09:47 TR News; CNX promoting crap that has Microsoft crap PRE-installed and PRE-paid. Why paint this as "Ubuntu"? https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/03/18/intel-core-i3-n305-mini-pc-review-windows-11-ubuntu-22-04/
↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/03/18/intel-core-i3-n305-mini-pc-review-windows-11-ubuntu-22-04/
09:47 TR Bot; Weibu N10 Core i3-N305 mini PC review with Windows 11 and Ubuntu 22.04 - CNX Software
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10:18 TR News; Sunday Gold, Review on Linux (Proton Experimental) https://boilingsteam.com/sunday-gold-review-on-linux-proton-experimental/
10:18 TR Bot; Sunday Gold, Review on Linux (Proton Experimental) - Boiling Steam
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10:27 TR News; Huawei Has Replaced Thousands of US-Banned Parts With Chinese Versions: Founder https://www.securityweek.com/huawei-has-replaced-thousands-of-us-banned-parts-with-chinese-versions-founder/
10:27 TR Bot; Has Replaced Thousands of US-Banned Parts With Chinese Versions: Founder - SecurityWeek
10:29 TR News; Appetite for Destruction https://feed.tedium.co/link/15204/16029305/paper-shredder-history
10:29 TR Bot; Paper Shredder History: The Value in Destroying Things (Sometimes)
10:30 TR News; Finally upgraded FlatPress https://hisham.hm/2023/03/18/finally-upgraded-flatpress/
10:30 TR Bot; upgraded FlatPress hisham.hm
10:31 TR News; How To Install MariaDB on Fedora 37 https://idroot.us/install-mariadb-fedora-37/
10:31 TR Bot; How To Install MariaDB on Fedora 37 - idroot
10:31 TR News; Boost Your Network Performance: How To Clear DNS Cache on Linux https://idroot.us/clear-dns-cache-linux/
10:31 TR Bot; Boost Your Network Performance: How To Clear DNS Cache on Linux - idroot
10:32 TR News; Fix Updating from such a repository cant be done securely Error In Linux https://itsubuntu.com/fix-updating-from-such-a-repository-cant-be-done-securely-error-in-linux/
10:32 TR Bot; Updating From Such A Repository Cant Be Done Securely Error In Linux | Itsubuntu.com
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10:37 TR News; Everything You Need to Know About UFW Logs https://linuxhandbook.com/ufw-logs/
10:37 TR Bot; UFW Logging: Everything You Need to Know
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10:46 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 18, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/19/irc-log-180323/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/19/irc-log-180323/
10:46 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 18, 2023 | Techrights
10:52 TR News; How to Configure Linux Mint 21 Automatic Updates https://linuxiac.com/how-to-configure-linux-mint-21-automatic-updates/
10:52 TR Bot; How to Configure Linux Mint 21 Automatic Updates
10:54 TR News; Mozilla released Firefox 111 with various vulnerability patches, improved Relay, and more! https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2023/03/firefox-111-new-features.html
10:54 TR Bot; Mozilla released Firefox 111 with various vulnerability patches, improved Relay, and more!
10:56 TR News; Competition https://macwright.com/2023/03/18/competition.html
10:56 TR Bot; - macwright.com
10:58 TR News; How to Delete a Git Branch Locally and Remotely https://net2.com/how-to-delete-a-git-branch-locally-and-remotely/
10:59 TR Bot; How to Delete a Git Branch Locally and Remotely
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11:00 TR News; The Right to Be Let Alone: When the Government Wants to Know All Your Business https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/18/the-right-to-be-let-alone-when-the-government-wants-to-know-all-your-business/
11:00 TR Bot; The Right to Be Let Alone: When the Government Wants to Know All Your Business OffGuardian
11:01 TR News; Arch Linux: February https://monthly-reports.archlinux.page/2023/02/
11:01 TR Bot; February | Arch Linux Monthly Reports
11:04 TR News; Pluralistic: SVB's investors will get $2b in public bailout money (18 Mar 2023) - REWARDED for corruption https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/18/2-billion-here-2-billion-there/
11:04 TR Bot; Pluralistic: SVBs investors will get $2b in public bailout money (18 Mar 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
11:05 TR News; Libraries were full of tech inflexion points https://rubenerd.com/libraries-were-full-of-tech-inflection-points/
11:05 TR Bot; Libraries were full of tech inflexion points
11:08 TR News; Feedback about the friend zone post https://rubenerd.com/feedback-about-the-friend-zone-post/
11:08 TR Bot; Feedback about the friend zone post
11:10 TR News; Status Resolved: Failed! Error: SET PASSWORD has no significance for user root@localhost https://trendoceans.com/resolved-failed-error-set-password-has-no-significance-for-user-root-localhost/
11:10 TR Bot; Status Resolved: Failed! Error: SET PASSWORD has no significance for user 'root'@'localhost' - TREND OCEANS
11:11 TR News; Read It Later is a Wallabag Client for Linux https://www.omglinux.com/wallabag-client-for-linux-desktop/
11:11 TR Bot; Read It Later is a Wallabag Client for Linux - OMG! Linux
11:13 TR News; Managing Large-Scale Web Applications with NGINX on Linux https://unixcop.com/managing-large-scale-web-applications-with-nginx-on-linux/
11:13 TR Bot; Managing Large-Scale Web Applications with NGINX on Linux
11:13 TR News; Linux Shell Scripting: Automating Tasks and Streamlining Workflows https://unixcop.com/linux-shell-scripting-automating-tasks-and-streamlining-workflows/
11:13 TR Bot; Linux Shell Scripting: Automating Tasks and Streamlining Workflows - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
11:13 TR News; Building a Real-Time Data Pipeline with Apache Kafka on Linux https://unixcop.com/building-data-pipeline-apache-kafka-linux/
11:13 TR Bot; Building a Real-Time Data Pipeline with Apache Kafka on Linux - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
11:13 TR News; Configuring a Load Balancer on Ubuntu Server: A Step-by-Step Tutorial https://unixcop.com/configuring-a-load-balancer-on-ubuntu-server-a-step-by-step-tutorial/
11:13 TR Bot; Configuring a Load Balancer on Ubuntu Server: A Step-by-Step Tutorial - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
11:15 TR News; Quake III, Steam, OpenGL error, high resolution workaround https://www.dedoimedo.com/games/steam-quake-iii-hd-resolution.html
11:15 TR Bot; Quake III, Steam, OpenGL error, high resolution workaround
11:16 TR News; Linux Mint User and Group Management https://www.fosslinux.com/106240/linux-mint-user-and-group-management.htm
11:16 TR Bot; Linux Mint User and Group Management | FOSS Linux
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:22 TR News; After Macrons use of nuclear option on unpopular pension reform, what's next? https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230318-what-could-be-next-after-macron-s-use-of-nuclear-option-to-pass-unpopular-pension-reform
11:22 TR Bot; NO TITLE
11:23 TR News; Protests resume across France after Macron forced through contested pension reform https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230318-french-unions-see-threat-of-yellow-vest-rerun-over-macron-s-retirement-push
11:23 TR Bot; Protests resume across France after Macron forced through contested pension reform
11:23 TR News; Criminal calling for riots https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230318-trump-says-he-expects-to-be-arrested-tuesday-calls-for-protest-from-supporters
11:23 TR Bot; Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday, calls for protest from supporters
11:24 TR News; Hong Kongs freedom to protest comes back to life or does it? https://hongkongfp.com/2023/03/19/hong-kongs-freedom-to-protest-comes-back-to-life-or-does-it/
11:24 TR Bot; Hong Kong's freedom to protest comes back to life or does it? - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
11:26 TR News; How to Get a Directory Size in Linux: Practical Examples https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-get-a-directory-size-in-linux-practical-examples/
11:26 TR Bot; to Get a Directory Size in Linux: Practical Examples - LinuxCapable
11:27 TR News; How to Use Fail2ban Commands in Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-use-fail2ban-commands-in-linux/
11:27 TR Bot; to Use Fail2ban Commands in Linux - LinuxCapable
11:27 TR News; Python Variables: Concepts and Examples https://www.linuxcapable.com/python-variables-concepts-and-examples/
11:27 TR Bot; Variables: Concepts and Examples - LinuxCapable
11:27 TR News; How to Create a Systemd Service in Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-create-a-systemd-service-in-linux/
11:27 TR Bot; to Create a Systemd Service in Linux - LinuxCapable
11:29 TR News; Linux Around The World: Albania https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-albania/
11:29 TR Bot; Around The World: Albania - LinuxLinks
11:29 TR News; How to Create a New User and Grant Permissions in MySQL https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-create-a-new-user-and-grant-permissions-in-mysql/
11:29 TR Bot; to Create a New User and Grant Permissions in MySQL - LinuxCapable
11:29 TR News; How to Remove Docker Images, Containers, and Volumes https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-remove-docker-images-containers-and-volumes/
11:29 TR Bot; to Remove Docker Images, Containers, and Volumes - LinuxCapable
11:29 TR News; How to Install and Configure UFW Firewall on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-and-configure-ufw-firewall-on-ubuntu-linux/
11:29 TR Bot; to Install and Configure UFW Firewall on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
11:29 TR News; How to Configure Security Headers in Nginx https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-configure-security-headers-in-nginx/
11:29 TR Bot; to Configure Security Headers in Nginx - LinuxCapable
11:37 TR News; Hubert Figuire: Integrating the RawTherapee engine https://www.figuiere.net/hub/wlog/integrating-rtengine/
11:37 TR Bot; Integrating the RawTherapee engine - Hubert Figuire
11:41 TR News; We were at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2023! https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/03/17/we-were-at-the-chemnitzer-linux-tage-2023/
11:42 TR Bot; We were at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2023! - The Document Foundation Blog
11:43 TR News; Digital European roulette wheel takes advantage of charlieplexing https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/03/17/digital-european-roulette-wheel-takes-advantage-of-charlieplexing/
11:43 TR Bot; Digital European roulette wheel takes advantage of charlieplexing | Arduino Blog
11:44 TR News; Infinity dodecahedron puts on a mesmerizing light show https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/03/17/infinity-dodecahedron-puts-on-a-mesmerizing-light-show/
11:44 TR Bot; Infinity dodecahedron puts on a mesmerizing light show | Arduino Blog
11:44 TR News; (NEW): Firefox 111 Web Browser Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/13/Firefox_111_Web_Browser_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_W.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/13/Firefox_111_Web_Browser_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_W.gmi
11:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Firefox 111 Web Browser Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
11:45 TR News; (NEW): Free Software Awards winners announced: Eli Zaretskii, Tad (SkewedZeppelin), GNU Jami http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Free_Software_Awards_winners_announced_Eli_Zaretskii_Tad_Skewed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Free_Software_Awards_winners_announced_Eli_Zaretskii_Tad_Skewed.gmi
11:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software Awards winners announced: Eli Zaretskii, Tad (SkewedZeppelin), GNU Jami
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12:08 TR News; (NEW): A first look at GL.iNet GL-S200 Thread Border Router kit with three nRF52840 Thread boards http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/A_first_look_at_GL_iNet_GL_S200_Thread_Border_Router_kit_with_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/A_first_look_at_GL_iNet_GL_S200_Thread_Border_Router_kit_with_t.gmi
12:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines A first look at GL.iNet GL-S200 Thread Border Router kit with three nRF52840 Thread boards
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12:09 TR News; (NEW): Linux Jargon Buster: What is LUKS Encryption http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Linux_Jargon_Buster_What_is_LUKS_Encryption.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Linux_Jargon_Buster_What_is_LUKS_Encryption.gmi
12:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Jargon Buster: What is LUKS Encryption
12:09 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Android_Leftovers.gmi
12:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
12:11 TR News; AppImage Installer bug-fix and more apps https://bkhome.org/news/202303/appimage-installer-bug-fix-and-more-apps.html
12:11 TR Bot; AppImage Installer bug-fix and more apps
12:11 TR News; AppImage Installer simplified info window https://bkhome.org/news/202303/appimage-installer-simplified-info-window.html
12:11 TR Bot; AppImage Installer simplified info window
12:19 TR News; Bank sector set for third week of whipsaw action, questions https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/svb-banking-drama-credit-suisse
12:19 TR Bot; Bank sector drama drags on with SVB, Credit Suisse up in the air
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:21 TR News; Ubuntu Wants You to Test its Steam Snap https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/03/ubuntu-steam-snap-candidate-testing
12:21 TR Bot; Ubuntu Wants You to Test its Steam Snap - OMG! Ubuntu!
12:23 TR News; Railway workers, employers: Strike more than likely https://yle.fi/a/74-20023019
12:23 TR Bot; Railway workers, employers: Strike more than likely | News | Yle Uutiset
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12:33 TR News; Driver shortage hits home as Brisbane, Gold Coast buses cancelled https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland/driver-shortage-hits-home-as-brisbane-gold-coast-buses-cancelled-20230317-p5ct0k.html
12:33 TR Bot; Driver shortage hits home as Brisbane, Gold Coast buses cancelled
12:34 TR News; Crisis of confidence in global banking system grows https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/crisis-of-confidence-in-global-banking-system-grows-20230319-p5ctbh.html
12:34 TR Bot; Crisis of confidence in global banking system grows
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12:34 TR News; The Productivity Commission wants wage bargaining shifted further in favour of employers https://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/the-productivity-commission-wants-wage-bargaining-shifted-further-in-favour-of-employers-20230319-p5ctcp.html
12:34 TR Bot; The Productivity Commission wants wage bargaining shifted further in favour of employers
12:38 TR News; LLVM 16.0.0 Release https://discourse.llvm.org/t/llvm-16-0-0-release/69326
12:38 TR Bot; LLVM 16.0.0 Release - Announcements - LLVM Discussion Forums
12:39 TR News; Differences Between Software and Computer Engineering https://www.hecticgeek.com/differences-between-software-computer-engineering/
12:40 TR Bot; Differences Between Software and Computer Engineering
12:40 TR News; "Coffee is one of the most important parts of my daily ritual" https://xeiaso.net/blog/coffee-isekai
12:40 TR Bot; My Coffee Isekai - Xe Iaso
12:41 TR News; Wine development release 8.4 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS https://www.wine-reviews.net/2023/03/wine-development-release-84-is-now.html
12:41 TR Bot; Wine Reviews : Wine development release 8.4 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS
12:44 TR News; Amazon Linux 2023, a cloud-optimized Linux distro, is now available https://www.neowin.net/news/amazon-linux-2023-a-cloud-optimized-linux-distro-is-now-available/
12:44 TR Bot; Amazon Linux 2023, a cloud-optimized Linux distro, is now available - Neowin
12:48 TR News; (NEW): Amazon Linux 2023 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Amazon_Linux_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Amazon_Linux_2023.gmi
12:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Amazon Linux 2023 (UPDATED)
12:48 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
12:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
12:50 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_Arduino_Projects.gmi
12:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Projects
12:59 TR News; (NEW): SUSE: Enterprise Micro 5.4 Public RC, SUSE Manager, and Tumbleweed Review http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/SUSE_Enterprise_Micro_5_4_Public_RC_SUSE_Manager_and_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/SUSE_Enterprise_Micro_5_4_Public_RC_SUSE_Manager_and_Tumbleweed.gmi
12:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines SUSE: Enterprise Micro 5.4 Public RC, SUSE Manager, and Tumbleweed Review
12:59 TR News; (NEW): Weekly Reports From Fedora Community Blog http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Weekly_Reports_From_Fedora_Community_Blog.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Weekly_Reports_From_Fedora_Community_Blog.gmi
12:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Weekly Reports From Fedora Community Blog
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:00 TR News; (NEW): GNU Health: Leading Public Mental Health Hospital in Argentina embraces GNU Health http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/GNU_Health_Leading_Public_Mental_Health_Hospital_in_Argentina.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/GNU_Health_Leading_Public_Mental_Health_Hospital_in_Argentina.gmi
13:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Health: Leading Public Mental Health Hospital in Argentina embraces GNU Health
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13:14 TR News; (NEW): [Debian] Bits from the Release Team: bookworm in hard freeze http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/_Debian_Bits_from_the_Release_Team_bookworm_in_hard_freeze.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/_Debian_Bits_from_the_Release_Team_bookworm_in_hard_freeze.gmi
13:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines [Debian] Bits from the Release Team: bookworm in hard freeze
13:14 TR News; (NEW): GNOME: Libadwaita, Sam Thursfield, and This Week in GNOME http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/GNOME_Libadwaita_Sam_Thursfield_and_This_Week_in_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/GNOME_Libadwaita_Sam_Thursfield_and_This_Week_in_GNOME.gmi
13:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOME: Libadwaita, Sam Thursfield, and This Week in GNOME
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13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 psydroid2; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/norway
13:20 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats
13:20 psydroid2; Norway's free software infestations are becoming hard to ignore
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; yes, norway was ahead for years
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; we did articles about that
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft tries to bribe them with "Datacentres"
13:31 TR News; (NEW): Games: Proton Experimental and Quake III Arena http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Games_Proton_Experimental_and_Quake_III_Arena.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Games_Proton_Experimental_and_Quake_III_Arena.gmi
13:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Proton Experimental and Quake III Arena
13:32 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
13:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
13:32 TR News; (NEW): Software: Read It Later, RawTherapee, and LibreOffice http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Software_Read_It_Later_RawTherapee_and_LibreOffice.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Software_Read_It_Later_RawTherapee_and_LibreOffice.gmi
13:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software: Read It Later, RawTherapee, and LibreOffice
13:34 psydroid2; and this country is just sad, probably M$'s most loyal accomplice
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; in what sense?
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; i can think of very few exanples
13:36 psydroid2; in terms of having extremely low market share and mindshare for GNU/Linux and free software in general
13:37 psydroid2; lagging behind even most developing countries
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; they cannot afford a "PC" that is Vista-capable
13:46 TR News; Links 19/03/2023: LLVM 16.0.0 and EasyOS Kirkstone 5.1 Releases | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/19/easyos-kirkstone-5-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/19/easyos-kirkstone-5-1/
13:46 TR Bot; Links 19/03/2023: LLVM 16.0.0 and EasyOS Kirkstone 5.1 Releases | Techrights
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't want one a lot of the time
14:04 XRevan86; https://libreboot.org/news/libreboot20230319.html
14:04 TR Bot; Libreboot Libreboot 20230319 released!
14:05 schestowitz[TR]; thanks
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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14:31 TR News; (NEW): Libreboot 20230319 released! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Libreboot_20230319_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Libreboot_20230319_released.gmi
14:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Libreboot 20230319 released!
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15:01 TR News; SpellBinding: EUIKLRH Wordo: FULLS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-03-19.gmi
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15:01 TR News; I have a lot of things to do but gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1329
15:02 TR News; today's leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml
15:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
15:02 TR News; Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml
15:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
15:06 TR News; "The first facet is dd as a way to copy data around." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/DdTwoFacets | Source: University of Toronto
15:06 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/DdTwoFacets
15:06 TR News; "Since misconfigurations are one of the leading causes of BGP incidents" https://labs.ripe.net/author/radu_strelciuc/navigating-the-complexities-of-bgp-enhancing-security-visibility-and-operability/ | Source: RIPE
15:06 TR Bot; Navigating the Complexities of BGP: Enhancing Security, Visibility, and Operability | RIPE Labs
15:07 TR News; "As usual, Secure Boot must be disabled in order to boot OpenBSD." https://www.paritybit.ca/blog/openbsd-on-the-dell-xps-13-9380.html | Source: Jake Bauer
15:07 TR Bot; on the Dell XPS 13 9380 - paritybit.ca
15:08 TR News; "My Dell XPS 15 9570 laptop is currently running the Fedora Linux distribution and receives firmware updates automatically from the Linux Vendor Firmware Service (LVFS)." https://blog.paranoidpenguin.net/2023/03/dell-xps-15-9570-is-missing-bios-updates/ | Source: Roger Comply
15:08 TR Bot; Dell XPS 15 9570 is missing BIOS updates | ParanoidPenguin.net
15:09 TR News; "These numbers are food for thought. Over the last few years, leading public cloud providers" https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-cloud-repatriation | Source: Ubuntu
15:09 TR Bot; is cloud repatriation? | Ubuntu
15:11 TR News; "Why overclock a Raspberry Pi Pico?" https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/overclock-raspberry-pi-pico | Source: Tom's Hardware
15:11 TR Bot; How to Overclock and Underclock a Raspberry Pi Pico | Tom's Hardware
15:12 TR News; "Theres isnt a universal answer to the best way to balance development velocity against technical debt." https://jordankaye.dev/posts/go-slow-move-fast/ | Source: Jordan Kaye
15:12 TR Bot; Go slow to move fast - Thoughts on software and technical leadership
15:12 TR News; "Link speed has greatly improved compared to lld 15.0.0." https://maskray.me/blog/2023-03-19-lld-16-elf-changes | Source: MaskRay
15:12 TR Bot; lld 16 ELF changes | MaskRay
15:12 TR News; "How can we use the SLSA framework to generate and verify the provenance of Python artifacts?" https://sethmlarson.dev/python-and-slsa?date=2023-03-18 | Source: Seth Michael Larson
15:13 TR Bot; Python and SLSA
15:14 TR News; "This post is a celebration of one of my favorite bits of South Pole infrastructure." https://brr.fyi/posts/beer-can | Source: Brr
15:14 TR Bot; The Beer Can
15:15 TR News; "Have you ever looked at a specific moment in your life and realised this is where everything changed?" https://rubenerd.com/libraries-were-full-of-tech-inflection-points/ | Source: Ruben Schade
15:15 TR Bot; Libraries were full of tech inflexion points
15:16 TR News; "And in many ways, before we talk about the paper shredder, we need to take a detour into the world of recycling, where a man named Matthias Koops put in much of the hard work to develop processes" https://tedium.co/2023/03/18/paper-shredder-history/ | Source: Tedium
15:16 TR Bot; Paper Shredder History: The Value in Destroying Things (Sometimes)
15:17 TR News; Faked existence https://www.ekathimerini.com/society/1207001/one-in-seven-teens-use-too-much-social-media/ | Source: Greece
15:17 TR Bot; in seven teens use too much social media | eKathimerini.com
15:19 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/us-government-warns-organizations-of-lockbit-3-0-ransomware-attacks/ | Source: Security Week
15:19 TR Bot; Government Warns Organizations of LockBit 3.0 Ransomware Attacks - SecurityWeek
15:19 techuser; But what is not faked? Parents tell lies to their children in real life, then these lies are spread among peers at school, then the affected people go through midlife crisis.
15:19 TR News; "Google was passing "w" to a call to parseMode(), when they should've been passing "wt"" https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/exploiting-acropalypse.html | Source: David Buchanan
15:19 TR Bot; Exploiting aCropalypse: Recovering Truncated PNGs | Blog
15:19 TR News; Windows TCO https://cyberscoop.com/rural-hospital-ransomware/ | Source: Scoop News Group
15:19 TR Bot; hospitals need help from feds to fight ransomware, witnesses tell lawmakers | CyberScoop
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:22 TR News; "Theres a lot to consider about this case." https://www.databreaches.net/patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/ | Source: Data Breaches
15:22 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/ )
15:23 TR News; "finding a house for rent" https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/man-claims-landlord-asked-for-his-linkedin-profile-while-looking-for-house-in-bengaluru-101679213906058.html | Source: Hindustan Times
15:23 TR Bot; Man tweets how landlord asked for his LinkedIn profile | Trending - Hindustan Times
15:23 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/03/14/sleep-memes-narcoleptic-goddess/
15:23 TR Bot; 35 Sleep Memes To Relate To When Insomnia Strikes
15:24 techuser; And these people are likely to reproduce before having midlife crisis. And then it doesn't matter what is going to happen with them.
15:24 TR News; "In February 2022, S.B. learned that a Facebook page impersonating her had been created." https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3903652-patients-embarrassing-private-health-information-posted-to-facebook-after-breach/ | Source: The Hill
15:24 TR Bot; Patient's 'embarrassing' private health information posted to Facebook after Contra Costa County medical privacy breach
15:25 TR News; Surveillance and plagiarism in everything https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/microsoft-ai-copilot-office-suit-1.6780630 | Source: CBC
15:25 TR Bot; Microsoft will add AI tech to office suite programs like Word, Excel | CBC News
15:25 TR News; "Also under the settlement the physicians group doesn't admit any culpability" https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/18/orlando_family_physicians_settlement/ | Source: The Register UK
15:25 TR Bot; How much will each stolen SSN cost you? How about $.75k The Register
15:26 TR News; "YouTube initially suspended Trump's account in January 2021" https://www.axios.com/2023/03/17/trump-youtube-suspension-restored | Source: Axios
15:26 TR Bot; YouTube restores Trump's account after 2-year suspension
15:26 TR News; greenwashing https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/climate-green-investments-greenwashing-1.6782981 | Source: CBC
15:26 TR Bot; So you want to be a climate-conscious investor. Here's how to avoid greenwashing | CBC News
15:27 TR News; Microsoft proxy wipro calling layoffs "isolated incident" https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/in-isolated-incident-wipro-lays-off-120-employees-in-tampa-us-101679214080161.html | Source: Hindustan Times
15:27 TR Bot; In 'isolated incident, Wipro lays off 120 employees in Tampa, US: Reports - Hindustan Times
15:29 psydroid2; it's imperative to isolate the employees involved in the incident and lay them as quickly as possible
15:31 TR News; "EU Cyber Resilience Act" https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/eu-cra-practicalities/ | Source: Bert Hubert
15:31 TR Bot; EU Cyber Resilience Act part two: Updates & Impracticalities - Bert Hubert's writings
15:31 TR News; TikTok ban https://droidgazette.com/a-tiktok-ban-isnt-about-privacy-its-about-politics/ | Source: DroidGazzette
15:31 TR Bot; A TikTok ban isn't about privacy, it's about politics - Droid Gazzete
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: it is an incident
15:32 psydroid2; lay them off*
15:32 TR News; "According to the information available to LTV, the poitical party widely seen as the most pro-Kremlin force in Latvia is one step away from a court being able to terminate its activities." https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/politics/17.03.2023-ltv-latvian-russian-union-warned-about-future-conduct.a501292/ | Source: Latvia
15:32 TR Bot; LTV: Latvian Russian Union warned about future conduct / Article
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; "OFF WITH THEIR LAYS!"
15:32 TR News; "[...] The Konakovo City Court on March 17 sentenced Aleksandr Martynov and his wife, Lyudmila Razumova" https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-couple-sentenced-prison-online-criticism-war/32323106.html | Source: RFERL
15:33 TR Bot; Russian Couple Handed Prison Terms For Expressing Anti-War Stance Online
15:35 TR News; "The agency reports that scam text complaints rose 500% between 2015 to 2022" https://cyberscoop.com/fcc-robotext-scam-phishing-robocall/ | Source: Scoop News Group
15:35 TR Bot; rules aims to curb scourge of robotexts assaulting Americans' phones | CyberScoop
15:35 TR News; "It is against our traditions and values to educate women." https://www.dawn.com/news/1742863/i-marched-for-my-mother-who-wasnt-allowed-to-go-to-school | Source: Dawn Media
15:35 TR Bot; marched for my mother who wasnt allowed to go to school - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
15:36 TR News; facebook https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/03/19/facebook-shuts-down-major-left-wing-group-in-britain/
15:36 TR Bot; Facebook shuts down major left wing group in Britain neritam
15:36 TR News; "Linux Has Become Complicated And Limiting (GNOME, Wayland, etc)" https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=1EIpek60rs0
15:36 TR Bot; Linux Has Become Complicated And Limiting (GNOME, Wayland, etc) - Invidious
15:37 TR News; Intel shills pushing back doors and bug doors http://vzimmer.blogspot.com/2023/02/blue-hat-2023-and-uefi-secure-boot.html
15:37 TR Bot; Vincent Zimmer's blog: Blue Hat 2023 and UEFI Secure Boot
15:38 TR News; "The drug patents are what kill people. When things go generic they tend to be like 3-5% of their original price." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180323.html#tMar%2018%2020:31:02
15:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, March 18, 2023
15:39 TR News; "My CV was bad." https://opensource.com/article/23/3/my-first-job-tech | Source: OpenSource.com
15:39 TR Bot; I got my first job in tech and helped others do the same | Opensource.com
15:40 TR News; "Paradox have released the latest DLC for Stellaris with the First Contact Story Pack" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/stellaris-first-contact-story-pack-and-the-free-37-update-are-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
15:40 TR Bot; First Contact Story Pack and the free 3.7 update are out now | GamingOnLinux
15:40 TR News; "The Wine 8.4 development release is out now for this Windows translation layer" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/wine-84-rolls-out-with-initial-wayland-graphics-driver-work/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/wine-84-rolls-out-with-initial-wayland-graphics-driver-work/
15:40 TR Bot; 8.4 rolls out with initial Wayland graphics driver work | GamingOnLinux
15:42 TR News; "The STM32U5A9J-DK is a development platform featuring an low power Arm Cortex M33 with support for Arm TrustZone" https://linuxgizmos.com/stm32u5-discovery-kit-features-2-47-tft-round-lcd/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
15:42 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/stm32u5-discovery-kit-features-2-47-tft-round-lcd/ )
15:43 TR News; "UFW firewall comes pre-installed in Ubuntu and as the name suggests UFW logs can offer inside-out information on how your firewall deals with incoming and outgoing requests." https://linuxhandbook.com/ufw-logs/ | Source: Linux Handbook
15:43 TR Bot; UFW Logging: Everything You Need to Know
15:46 TR News; (UPDATED): Wine 8.4 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Wine_8_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Wine_8_4.gmi
15:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Wine 8.4 (UPDATED)
15:47 TR News; "Ever since the 1970s, a frequent project has been to take a microprocessor and construct a computer system on a breadboard or stripboard" https://hackaday.com/2023/03/18/its-a-486-computer-on-a-breadboard/ | Source: Hackaday
15:47 TR Bot; A 486 Computer, On A Breadboard | Hackaday
15:48 TR News; "Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN has been fighting pirates of all kinds for the last 25 years" https://torrentfreak.com/brein-shut-down-449-pirate-sites-services-in-2022-230318/ | Source: Torrent Freak
15:48 TR Bot; Shut Down 449 Pirate Sites & Services in 2022 * TorrentFreak
15:49 TR News; Game Jam https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/18/game-jam-winner-spotlight-to-and-again/ | Source: Techdirt
15:49 TR Bot; Jam Winner Spotlight: To And Again | Techdirt
15:53 TR News; "Data published by Russias Central Bank show that, as of February 1, residents of the country have cash holdings equivalent to 105.4 billion USD." https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/03/18/russian-residents-cash-holdings-exceed-100-billion-for-the-first-time | Source: Meduza
15:53 TR Bot; Russian residents cash holdings exceed $100 billion for the first time Meduza
15:57 TR News; snap https://truthout.org/articles/tribal-nations-seek-regional-food-trade-hubs-as-snap-benefits-expire/ | Source: TruthOut
15:57 TR Bot; Tribal Nations Seek Regional Food Trade Hubs as SNAP Benefits Expire - Truthout
15:58 TR News; Banking collapse again https://truthout.org/articles/the-svb-and-signature-bank-crashes-show-why-we-need-public-banking/ | Source: TruthOut
15:58 TR Bot; The SVB and Signature Bank Crashes Show Why We Need Public Banking - Truthout
15:58 TR News; education https://truthout.org/articles/new-college-of-florida-is-desantiss-launchpad-for-attack-on-higher-education/ | Source: TruthOut
15:58 TR Bot; New College of Florida Is DeSantiss Launchpad for Attack on Higher Education - Truthout
16:01 TR News; "The global economy hit a new milestone in 2022 by surpassing $100 trillion." https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/just-green-trade-not-free-trade | Source: Common Dreams
16:01 TR Bot; Opinion | The World Needs Just Green Trade, Not 'Free Trade' | Common Dreams
16:09 TR News; PCB https://hackaday.com/2023/03/19/tiny-pcb-piezopiano-plays-just-one-octave/ | Source: Hackaday
16:09 TR Bot; PCB PiezoPiano Plays Just One Octave | Hackaday
16:15 TR News; "Shredding things isnt just good for efficiently and securely disposing of them." https://hackaday.com/2023/03/19/3d-printed-shredder-eats-lettuce-for-brekkast/ | Source: Hackaday
16:15 TR Bot; Shredder Eats Lettuce For Breakfast | Hackaday
16:16 TR News; retirement https://truthout.org/articles/french-protests-escalate-over-attempt-to-force-retirement-age-hike/ | Source: TruthOut
16:16 TR Bot; French Protests Escalate Over Attempt to Force Retirement Age Hike - Truthout
16:19 TR News; hey Midnight patrons, lookie here gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1330
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:32 TR News; Zevenet 5.13.1 is out
16:39 TR News; (NEW): Arch Linux-Based SystemRescue 10 Released with Linux Kernel 6.1 LTS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Arch_Linux_Based_SystemRescue_10_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Arch_Linux_Based_SystemRescue_10_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_1.gmi
16:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Arch Linux-Based SystemRescue 10 Released with Linux Kernel 6.1 LTS
16:54 TR News; (NEW): NordVPNs Latest Move: Open Sourcing Linux Client Code http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/NordVPN_s_Latest_Move_Open_Sourcing_Linux_Client_Code.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/NordVPN_s_Latest_Move_Open_Sourcing_Linux_Client_Code.gmi
16:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines NordVPNs Latest Move: Open Sourcing Linux Client Code
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:03 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
17:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
17:12 TR News; </blockquote></li>
17:13 TR News; Greens set out fairer, Greener plan for economy ahead of Spring Budget https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2023/03/14/greens-set-out-fairer,-greener-plan-for-economy-ahead-of-spring-budget/
17:13 TR Bot; Greens set out fairer, Greener plan for economy ahead of Spring Budget | The Green Party
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:56 TR News; YouTube is crap https://www.vox.com/culture/23640192/sebastian-ghiorghiu-youtube-hustle-gurus-passive-income-dropshipping
17:56 TR Bot; Ghiorghiu and the rise of the YouTube millionaire influencer - Vox
17:57 TR News; When social control media tries to run a country https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/15/world/asia/japan-parliament-youtuber-expelled.html
17:57 TR Bot; A YouTuber in Japan Turned His Parliament Post Into a Side Hustle - The New York Times
17:58 TR News; GulagTube lacks a business model, still https://www.engadget.com/youtube-tv-raises-prices-to-an-outrageous-73-per-month-182517379.html
17:58 TR Bot; TV raises its prices yet again | Engadget
17:58 TR News; GulagTube megaphone for violent insurrectionist who calls for riots again https://www.engadget.com/donald-trumps-youtube-suspension-is-over-145005582.html"
17:58 TR Bot; Trump's YouTube suspension is over | Engadget
17:59 TR News; No lessons learned https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/youtube-lifts-restrictions-on-donald-trumps-channel-after-2-year-suspension/
17:59 TR Bot; Lifts Restrictions on Donald Trump's Channel After 2-Year Suspension - CNET
17:59 TR News; Running social control media account versus running countries https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/asia/youtuber-mp-gaasyy-expelled-japan-parliament-intl-hnk/index.html
17:59 TR Bot; star GaaSyy expelled as member of Japan's parliament for lack of attendance | CNN
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18:01 TR News; Neat trick, but NOT free software https://trendoceans.com/isg-lets-you-use-youtube-as-cloud-storage-for-any-files-not-just-video/
18:01 TR Bot; ISG: Lets you use YouTube as Cloud Storage for ANY files, not just Video - TREND OCEANS
18:02 TR News; Ridiculous https://gizmodo.com/youtube-tv-price-increase-73-month-sling-hulu-fubo-1850234420
18:02 TR Bot; YouTube TV's Going To Cost $8 More Starting Next Month
18:02 TR News; GulagTube as spam https://gizmodo.com/reddit-down-superstonk-gangam-style-youtube-comments-1850227930
18:02 TR Bot; With Reddit Down, Superstonk Goes to Gangnam Style's Comments
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18:07 TR News; Microsoft 'spamming' git repos with chatbots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIOkm-c3rEU
18:07 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=FIOkm-c3rEU
18:07 TR Bot; not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=FIOkm-c3rEU )
18:08 TR News; Regata OS 22.1.3 overview | Ready for those who love to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ivYsfwTmc
18:08 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=94ivYsfwTmc
18:08 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=94ivYsfwTmc )
18:08 TR News; KaOS 2023.02 Quick Overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IZaFzRX0ZM
18:08 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=5IZaFzRX0ZM
18:08 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | KaOS 2023.02 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious
18:12 TR News; (NEW): Videos About Free Software and GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Videos_About_Free_Software_and_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/19/Videos_About_Free_Software_and_GNU_Linux.gmi
18:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos About Free Software and GNU/Linux
18:14 TR News; Mastodon vs. Finger gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-03-19-Mastodon-vs-Finger.gmi
18:18 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/23031269
18:18 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23031269
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:24 XRevan86; https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1636835209587949570
18:24 TR Bot; Twitter will open source all code used to recommend tweets on March 31st
18:25 XRevan86; I did not expect to read something reasonable from Mr. Musk.
18:36 schestowitz[TR]; maybe shithub
18:54 immibis; he won't actually do it
18:58 AdmFubar; he has to.. he fired all the developers.. now he wants twitter code done for him for free
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:24 psydroid2; https://www.dw.com/en/ubs-and-swiss-national-bank-agree-credit-suisse-takeover/a-65041855
19:24 TR Bot; and Swiss National Bank agree Credit Suisse takeover DW 03/19/2023
19:24 psydroid2; scammers are gonna scam
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20:00 immibis; AdmFubar: don't need developers to write if(username=="elonmusk") return 10000;
20:01 MinceR; s/./Developers! /g
20:03 immibis; elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk! elonmusk!
20:04 MinceR; :)
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20:19 t0talist; ext2 filesystem, isn't year2038 ready
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:24 t0talist; that's why, they moved to ext4, since kernel 2.6
20:24 t0talist; 32bit POSIX is broken by design
20:32 AdmFubar; not now, you just gave him the code for free
20:32 AdmFubar; :))
20:32 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/19/google-pixel-privacy-nightmare-redacted-or-cropped-screenshots-may-be-recovered-partially/
20:32 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/19/google-pixel-privacy-nightmare-redacted-or-cropped-screenshots-may-be-recovered-partially/ )
20:34 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/19/yandex-browsers-gpu-crashes-dropped-significantly-after-pretending-to-be-chrome/
20:34 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/19/yandex-browsers-gpu-crashes-dropped-significantly-after-pretending-to-be-chrome/ )
20:38 t0talist; was there any filesystem, available/introduced with linux-2.4, which was year2038 ready?
20:39 t0talist; ext2/ext3 weren't; XFS wasn't, ext4 and nilfs2 were introduced with linux-2.6
20:41 t0talist; and, even ext4 comes in configurations (inode size), which weren't ready for year2038
20:42 t0talist; the safest pick, is, nilfs2 (which i tested on linux-5.x series only, and didn't verify any transition back and forth between 2.6 and 5.10 kernel versions)
20:44 t0talist; nilfs2 wasn't available, with linux-2.4 (which tcc supported), so, linux-2.6 minimum is mandatory, to avoid filesystem trouble
20:47 psydroid2; fear not, t0talistfs will be t0tally year2038 ready
20:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], So I had an immigration lawyer tell me get out of the motel and sign a lease somewhere because USCIS wants to see stability.
20:47 DaemonFC; Then the landlord sells the building without telling anyone about it, up until the last second I presume.
20:47 DaemonFC; "Stability"
20:48 DaemonFC; He has no legal obligation to tell his tenants the place is for sale or we all would have known on November 22nd.
20:49 DaemonFC; What he's doing isn't illegal, it's just extremely unethical, but he gets away with it because rich.
20:49 immibis; yes, I have also considered how hard it would be to get away with living under a bridge - the government would pay me $12000-18000 per year to do so - but the immigration office won't accept it
20:49 DaemonFC; I asked ChatGPT how often an "under contract" deal falls through.
20:49 immibis; Remember, rent is just a kind of tax
20:49 immibis; ChatGPT is a bullshit generator DaemonFC. It tells you what you want to hear.
20:50 DaemonFC; It said between 10-20% of the time, a deal falls through for some reason, like they find something during the inspections they really don't like or can't obtain financing.
20:50 DaemonFC; But that would just mean he's lower his price until there's a deal.
20:50 t0talist; the argument, moving to x86_64, and abandoning x86/32bit.... that's silly, to assume, there wasn't any problems then
20:50 immibis; your landlord is smart if he sold a year ago
20:50 DaemonFC; Everything is worth something. You may just have to come way down to account for the cost of repairs.
20:51 t0talist; by coincidence, i did an git-fsck last night, to verify some kernel repository, and again... oom-kill, with 800MiB RAM available for this
20:51 t0talist; this too shows, what an insane clusterf*** it is
20:52 immibis; It's open source. Fix it yourself. Just last week I troubleshooted why some blockchain software that controls hundreds of billions of dollars will eat all my RAM if started with no state database but still the block database.
20:52 t0talist; you have no idea what you're talking about
20:53 DaemonFC; I'll probably just skip the moving truck and toss what I can in the car and replace the furniture once we're at the new place.
20:53 t0talist; this can't be fixed, git and linux kernel are broken
20:53 DaemonFC; Moving is more time consuming and expensive than the stuff costs to replace.
20:53 DaemonFC; My mother totally doesn't get the fact that when you're renting, weighing yourself down is a bad idea.
20:54 DaemonFC; Get cheap furniture so you don't lose your ass when you have to move, and if the landlord fucks you, leave it all in his dumpster and let him pay to have it removed.
20:55 DaemonFC; You can toss the microwave and TV and such in the car.
20:55 DaemonFC; My God, it costs $1,200 to hire movers for a local move.
20:55 DaemonFC; If you've had an apartment of cheap stuff for 3-4 years, it's depreciated.
20:55 DaemonFC; You can chuck it and replace it with new cheap stuff for way less than what it's worth to take with you.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
21:02 *psydroid2 is looking forward to dictat0rfs and landl0rdfs
21:09 MinceR; :>
21:12 XRevan86; immibis: I think ChatGPT can be considered a very literate bluffer.
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21:13 MinceR; bluffer overflow
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21:31 immibis; now here is a font of insanity: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.theory/search?q=olcott
21:31 TR Bot; Search Conversations
21:32 immibis; this guy claims that the program which halts only if does not halt, does not halt
21:35 immibis; here we see three actors: "olcott", who repeatedly insists that his version of the halting problem is correct, "Richard Damon", who repeatedly shows why it is obviously incorrect, and "Mr Flibble", who mocks their repetitive behaviour while ironically engaging in very similar behaviour himself
21:35 MinceR; was there a shortage of insanity?
21:37 t0talist; is there any way around it? if time_t is extended from 32bit to 64bit, all applications depending on time_t and casts from to integer types, have to be verified?
21:38 t0talist; NetBSD prepared their kernel and userland, year 2012 already
21:38 t0talist; and this raises another question, why there wasn't a generic approach, to emulate long integer data types on 32bit systems
21:39 t0talist; i remember, a 32bit DEC VAX already could support, 128bit general purpose, 40 years ago
21:39 t0talist; so, that's two questions, why 64bit general purpose data types weren't available for 32bit POSIX; excuse any imprecision of wording
21:40 MinceR; people didn't care sufficiently
21:40 t0talist; because, if there was, POSIX may have strictly defined [u]int[8|16|32|64|128], instead of long long
21:41 t0talist; and i am almost certain, floating point operations too can be emulated, with 32bit registers for example, and expose 64bit nonetheless (it may not be trivial and slow to do that, DEC VAX did it)
21:41 t0talist; who was the inventor of POSIX?
21:42 t0talist; Richard Stallman
21:42 MinceR; the term, yes
21:42 MinceR; the standard, no
21:44 t0talist; i dislike the idea of data types vary with their size, i hate it, when a long or double isn't the same on 32bit and 64bit systems
21:44 t0talist; it is broken by design
21:44 t0talist; same with the 32bit time_t
21:44 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/19/ai-makes-plagiarism-harder-to-detect-argue-academics-in-paper-written-by-chatbot
21:44 TR Bot; AI makes plagiarism harder to detect, argue academics in paper written by chatbot | Chatbots | The Guardian
21:44 MinceR; i'm not convinced about that
21:45 MinceR; 64bit integers perform worse in 32bit systems
21:45 MinceR; and 64bit pointers aren't terribly useful on 32bit systems
21:45 DaemonFC; It's interesting that proprietary abandoned UNIX systems were better prepared for this in some ways than Linux is
21:45 MinceR; using 64bit integers in place of 32bit integers on 64bit systems is often practically free
21:46 DaemonFC; Of course, in some ways it's not surprising.
21:46 t0talist; MinceR: except for time_t
21:46 DaemonFC; IRIX was designed to handle big data from the beginning.
21:46 DaemonFC; XFS on 32-bit Linux was always a nasty hack.
21:46 MinceR; yeah, 32bit time_t is a timebomb
21:47 DaemonFC; In many ways, the systems IRIX was designed for are sort of comparable to a nice laptop now.
21:47 MinceR; let me guess, IRIX was designed for more powerful systems than the i386-es Linux originally targeted
21:47 DaemonFC; They were like gigantic computers that cost over $300,000 in the 90s.
21:47 DaemonFC; <MinceR> let me guess, IRIX was designed for more powerful systems than the i386-es Linux originally targeted
21:47 DaemonFC; Yes, the MIPS processors were 64-bit.
21:48 t0talist; and i am concerned, i couldn't scrape a clean diff/patch for 64bit time_t, to backport this to older kernel versions
21:48 DaemonFC; The Nintendo 64's SDK was basically some IRIX boxes for the earlier titles.
21:48 MinceR; then that's no technological achievement, it's just being lucky with the hardware
21:48 MinceR; too bad the Nintendo 64 still couldn't handle the original Doom
21:48 DaemonFC; There were a lot of tricks involved. Including pre-rendering so that the console didn't have much to do.
21:49 DaemonFC; "Spin this texture around that was already rendered on an IRIX box.
21:49 DaemonFC; DOOM64 wasn't a bad game.
21:49 MinceR; indeed
21:50 MinceR; but it still couldn't handle revenants or multiplayer
21:50 t0talist; and i need to separate concerns, such as my distaste for x86_64, modern kernel versions, tcc-support, and the time_t issue
21:50 DaemonFC; DOOM console versions have always been more disappointing than the PC version, but DOOM64 was probably the best for its time.
21:50 MinceR; or spider masterminds
21:50 DaemonFC; They had to trim down everything about DOOM 3 for the XBOX.
21:50 DaemonFC; There were spider masterminds in DOOM64.
21:50 DaemonFC; They had twin plasma rifles embedded in them.
21:50 MinceR; there were? where?
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21:51 MinceR; no, those were arachnotrons
21:51 DaemonFC; Oh that's right.
21:51 DaemonFC; Been a while since I played it.
21:51 MinceR; :)
21:51 DaemonFC; They don't lead their target very well. That's how you avoid them.
21:52 DaemonFC; But if they hit you it does cause a lot of damage.
21:52 MinceR; shoot it until it dies.
21:52 t0talist; i could try to forward-port tcc-toolchain support to kernel-5.10 i486... it won't be trivial
21:52 t0talist; it's just, i don't need 64bit, and almost noone bothers with 32bit systems nowadays
21:53 t0talist; and, by coincidence, tcc-toolchain support for i386 is the most stable one
21:53 t0talist; so, i could slap several flies with one stroke
21:53 psydruid; i386 is practically dead
21:53 t0talist; and i already did patch kernel-5.9 to remove some nasty c11 clutter
21:53 t0talist; psydruid: it is not
21:53 MinceR; the arch-vile was also missing from doom64
21:54 psydruid; it's not dead in your apartment
21:54 t0talist; 32bit x86
21:54 t0talist; btw, too i moved an aarch32 userspace on top of an aarch64 kernel, because gcc-4.7 (no-c++), didn't support uhm... aarch64
21:55 t0talist; it is just, i didn't succeed booting an aarch32 kernel on cortex-a53 (i mean i could boot some aarch32 kernel even, it just didn't work as it should have)
21:56 psydruid; I only run 64-bit code on my systems
21:56 t0talist; that's why, ARM is not practical, because you can't easily boot a 32bit kernel on them
21:56 psydruid; and most newer ARM cores don't even support 32-bit
21:57 t0talist; a nice side effect, of 32bit address space, is seeing git-clone and git-fsck oom-killed due to this
21:57 t0talist; it's just another sanity check, which rarely anyone bothers with nowadays
21:57 DaemonFC; <MinceR> the arch-vile was also missing from doom64
21:57 t0talist; i mean, there is 800MiB RAM available, and it is not possible to git-clone/fsck a linux.git repository anymore
21:57 DaemonFC; I think those are in it.
21:57 DaemonFC; No, they aren't.
21:58 DaemonFC; Heh. I forgot.
21:58 t0talist; it's just a side-effect, development moved onto where linux is nowadays
21:58 immibis; t0talist: you'd rather rename everything to time64_t? then why bother calling it time_t instead of int32_t?
21:58 immibis; surely if you follow this rule there is no reason to use any other name than [u]intXX_t
21:58 t0talist; immibis: i don't know yet, how to accomplish year2038 compatibility
21:58 t0talist; for 32bit x86
21:59 DaemonFC; MinceR, Unused assets didn't tend to exist in N64 ROMs.
21:59 t0talist; because, the linux-kernels which do support year2038 with 32bit, fail miserably with tcc-toolchain
21:59 DaemonFC; They got charged by the MB by Nintendo, per cartridge.
21:59 t0talist; and i am not willing, to rely upon c++-compilers and rust and whatever wherever linux is heading
21:59 DaemonFC; About the only special deal anyone got was Lucasarts to made Shadows of the Empire as a launch title.
22:00 DaemonFC; They wanted to show the system off a bit.
22:00 t0talist; >=gcc-4.9; that's C++; and this is what linux-kernel locked into since recently too
22:00 DaemonFC; At the time, even Nintendo wasn't using that much space for anything.
22:00 t0talist; that's why, my kernel patch for linux-5.10 was important, so i can compile this with old compilers, one day, hopefully, with tcc
22:01 t0talist; with old compilers, i meant, C-compilers
22:01 DaemonFC; The audio processing was really the weak spot of the N64.
22:01 MinceR; i thought not being a PC was the weak spot :>
22:01 DaemonFC; The drivers for it were really inefficient, so it took up a lot of CPU time and the compression codec wasn't that good.
22:01 DaemonFC; So for Rogue Squadron, the cartridge itself contained new sound drivers.
22:01 MinceR; and in general, the part that seems to ruin all gaming consoles is the business model
22:02 t0talist; psydruid: yes, ARMv9 abandoned aarch32 compatibility; which is stupid, and another reason i lost sympathy for the whole ARM
22:02 DaemonFC; It loaded them in place of the system's because it saved more space than the new drivers cost on the cartridge.
22:02 MinceR; they try to sell the console cheap and recoup the difference from game sales, so they're motivated to turn it into a crippled, locked-down piece of shit
22:02 MinceR; which in turn motivates them to cut corners in the design as well
22:03 t0talist; and the aarch32 compatibility which ARMv8a had, wasn't that convincing either (as said i couldn't boot an aarch32 kernel with this)
22:03 MinceR; because if it's not a lot cheaper than a PC, nobody will buy it
22:03 DaemonFC; Well, increasingly, the systems run a general purpose OS, almost.
22:03 MinceR; a big "almost"
22:03 DaemonFC; Yeah, especially Microsoft doesn't want to compete with the PC.
22:03 DaemonFC; Because that would mean not selling you a Windows license.
22:04 DaemonFC; To a certain extent, they cannibalize Windows anyway.
22:04 DaemonFC; Most people were only hanging onto the PC for games and they can cheap out and get a Chromebook now.
22:05 DaemonFC; Once you're down to a system for running applications, you don't need an overpowered computer you're always rebuilding.
22:06 psydruid; Aarch64 is a far more streamlined ISA than any 32-bit ARM ISA ever was
22:06 t0talist; streamlined?
22:06 psydruid; yes
22:06 t0talist; what does that mean?
22:07 t0talist; the floating point variants, were a little flaky, among aarch32; if you picked any hardfloat variant, this wasn't compatible with all aarch32
22:08 psydruid; it got rid of many limitations inherent in the various 32-bit ISAs and resembles MIPS more because it was designed by one of the MIPS designers, according to Ralf Baechle
22:11 t0talist; psydruid: why would i care? i haven't got a sane C-compiler for aarch64.
22:11 psydruid; why would anyone care about your misadventures in retrocomputing?
22:11 t0talist; ironically, except arm64-tcc... however, it was too much hazzle, to cross-compile all this, because gcc47 didn't have aarch64
22:12 t0talist; psydruid: retro? raspberry1 was released 2013; that's 10 years;
22:12 psydruid; you can take it to some dark corner of the web and revel in it
22:13 t0talist; i reject aarch64
22:13 t0talist; because, of the compiler situation
22:13 psydruid; compilers don't write themselves yet, they get written by people familiar with the subject matter
22:13 t0talist; i won't accept a c++ compiler, to compile linux-kernel with
22:13 t0talist; and this is the situation with aarch64
22:13 psydruid; if you are waiting for other people to do that job for you, you can wait until the end of your life
22:14 t0talist; psydruid: i won't do the work for a trillion dollar company, without salary in return
22:14 psydruid; so sure, go ahead with i386 and aarch32
22:14 t0talist; psydruid: it is an outrageous insult of yours
22:14 psydruid; it's just that no one cares about any of it
22:14 psydruid; lol
22:15 psydruid; telling you to do your own homework is an insult?
22:15 t0talist; it is NOT my homework
22:15 t0talist; it is ARM and Intel, who had to explain themselves, for the trillion cash graveyard they produced
22:15 t0talist; and i am not a shareholder of SVB either
22:16 t0talist; it is theirs', not ine
22:16 t0talist; mine
22:16 psydruid; you must be a really messed up person to accuse others of insulting you for not doing YOUR work for YOU
22:16 t0talist; they wrecked it, beyond repair, not me
22:16 psydruid; sure, you can use your hardware and play with it
22:16 t0talist; it is them, who cashed in trillions of money, not me
22:16 t0talist; and the hardware, it's all proprietary junk and malware, most of it
22:17 t0talist; for spying
22:17 psydruid; you are the lord and saviour of retrocomputing, I get it
22:17 t0talist; prboom works nicely still; without a single line of C++ anywhere
22:18 psydruid; C++ is the spawn of the devil and must be eradicated
22:18 t0talist; it is not; C++ must be eradicated from where it doesn't belong
22:19 t0talist; such as, C++ does NOT beling into linux-kernel (locked into by >=gcc-4.9 and C11 and aarch64)
22:19 t0talist; C++ does NOT belong into GNU C compiler
22:19 psydruid; C++ must be erased from Stroustrup's brain
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22:22 XRevan86; https://bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-64758113
22:22 TR Bot; Bristol-based ex-conspiracy theorist fighting misinformation - BBC News
22:26 t0talist; i already did compile most of linux kernel with tcc btw; it was the GNU gas assembly, which freaked out...
22:26 t0talist; and it is alot of system integration work, because i had to maintain several differen cross/compilers and firmware variants
22:27 t0talist; aarch32, aarch64, amd64, and the tcc-toolchain variants of this, which required again, different gentoo profiles applied
22:27 t0talist; it's a masterpiece, i got all this stabilized
22:28 t0talist; and i consider tcc, a sanity check; same with gnu-toolchain and gnu-buildsystem removal... sanity check... see what remains
22:29 t0talist; well, yep, i am the only one, who got it archived
22:30 t0talist; seems, i have to nail-down linux-5.10; which is sad, because linux-2.6 was much less lines of code, as one criteria
22:39 t0talist; there is one blocker against linux-5.10: RISC-V
22:42 DaemonFC; https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/sargassum-seaweed-blob-explained-florida-scn/index.html
22:42 t0talist; i had not seen any RISC-V boards yet, and if those require linux-6.X, who knows what was wrecked inside it meanwhile (various gcc version bumps for example
22:42 TR Bot; Sargassum seaweed blob heading to Florida explained | CNN
22:43 DaemonFC; Florida is having a Sargassum problem. And I don't mean to be sargasstic when I say that.
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22:58 immibis; RISC-V boards exist
22:58 immibis; e.g. Ox64, 8 dollars
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:00 psydruid; it can never be a meisterwerk
23:00 psydruid; it can only become one when all code is removed
23:03 t0talist; this Ox64, interesting, 64MiB RAM and 400MHz single is a little limited
23:04 t0talist; but it is, sufficient, for Linux, development included - with a sane compiler/toolchain
23:06 immibis; it's $8, what do you expect
23:06 immibis; i think they are also working on a very powerful risc-v one (Star64 I think?)
23:07 t0talist; immibis: for $8 i had expected less thatn this
23:07 t0talist; the Ox64 is a great offering
23:07 t0talist; and with tcc-toolchain, there is notable activity, for risc-v
23:08 t0talist; riscv64-tcc ... the Ox64 is a 32bit RISC-V
23:08 psydruid; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35200866
23:08 TR Bot; Windows Market Share Drops to 57% in the US | Hacker News
23:08 psydruid; lol, flagged
23:08 t0talist; nope, 64bit
23:08 psydruid; Bill Pretzel complained
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23:35 t0talist; i think, linux-5.10LTS is the first one with long-term-support, which is year2038 ready
23:37 t0talist; "LTS" is a misnomer anyway, because, it's not long-term, and it's not stable
23:37 t0talist; because, they knew, they couldn't stabilize any branch, when it wasn't prepared year2038
23:38 t0talist; and, that's not the only problem with it, and it isn't linux-specific either
23:43 t0talist; another benefit, for linux-5.10, i got many patches already: my high-speed scrambler/cipher, the W^X policy enforcement patch i forward-ported for amd64, it's tested and stable with rock64/cortex-a53 boards, and some other
23:44 t0talist; so i'll gradually try to move forward with tcc-toolchain, beginning at linux-2.4/i386, booting this, then linux-2.6 booting... up until i arrive at linux-5.10
23:47 t0talist; and there's some flexibility, i don't care that much, if it's x86/32bit, x86/64bit, or aarch64
23:47 immibis; oh neat it also has zigbee. didn't realize that. I don't have one
23:47 immibis; i already have a bunch of so-far-unused Pine64 stuff and I don't need more
23:47 t0talist; i'll have to avoid GNU gas at all costs however, because this will drag me into the giant mudhole of theirs, with binutils/autotools/perl
23:48 t0talist; i still keep three rock64 boards here (two of them with 1GiB RAM, and one with 4GiB)
23:48 t0talist; that's why, it's annoying, git-clone of linux fails, on the 1GiB RAM model, which is my main development box
23:53 t0talist; oasis linux instead, was willing to fully re-integrate binutils into their tree, they had re-written the entire buildsystem for it
23:54 t0talist; i could live with this too, keeping binutils, when the surrounding GNU buildsystem was removed from it
23:54 DaemonFC; I was reading about the misdemeanor process in New York and Illinois.
23:55 DaemonFC; Apparently, in New York, the defendant could demand a grand jury indictment if within 45 days of the arraignment they make that motion in court.
23:55 DaemonFC; But in Illinois, you can't.
23:55 DaemonFC; The grand jury indictment is not something most people would demand though.
23:56 DaemonFC; Prosecutors get an indictment almost all of the time.
23:58 t0talist; since oasis linux showed, binutils could be re-integrated into their tree, this will keep build-time dependencies minimal
23:59 t0talist; in fact, i could live with it... to keep binutils AS, for those parts inside kernel and musl-libc which really need it
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