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00:02 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367937/
00:03 thighest_hubris_crills; Bill Gates testing out a beta version of Windows on a laptop and it melted <- obviously youve seen the 98 demo
00:03 TR Bot; Zelenskyy: We might pursue diplomatic means to take back Crimea | Ukrainska Pravda
00:03 thighest_hubris_crills; with the blue screen
00:03 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367942/
00:03 TR Bot; 59 bodies exhumed in Izium, most showing signs of violent death ? Kharkiv Oblast Military Administration | Ukrainska Pravda
00:06 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, yeah actually lol
00:06 starstreak; it was also funny when someone threw a pie in his face
00:06 mixling; it is an important difference, WHY oil/gas business with Russia is sanctioned: because "EU trading hub" seeks 999.999% surplus margins, this is my "Theory"
00:06 mixling; and who the benefitiaries were
00:07 XRevan86; Yea, there's nothing happening in the world right now, so there must be some weird reason.
00:07 MinceR; no, it's sanctioned (if it's sanctioned) because your fuhrer uses the profits to fuel his genocide of ukrainians
00:07 XRevan86; And Scholz was peddling Nord Stream 2 before February 2022, I wonder why that didn't get through some lobby got to him?
00:07 MinceR; (also to buy explosives to blow up europe's biggest nuclear power plant with, when the wind blows your way)
00:08 MinceR; (but i'm sure that you won't get radiation poisoning if your faith is pure and strong enough)
00:08 XRevan86; MinceR: Ye are so on the nose, ye ruined my perfectly planned sarcasm %).
00:09 mixling; MinceR: you rather enjoy NATO mars rockets hit your living quarter?
00:09 XRevan86; That sounds plausible.
00:10 XRevan86; And with mixling saying that, it's probably a rocket from Mars.
00:10 mixling; i am no expert with NATO weaponry, ask the suppliers and customers who are involved: Ukraine, USA, and "madame president Uschi" of EU heaven of peace
00:11 MinceR; mixling: afaik NATO's rockets don't use orcish guidance systems
00:11 XRevan86; mixling: I know ye mean M270A1, just made a joke.
00:13 starstreak; Bill Gates: https://i.imgur.com/xDFiat1.png
00:15 MinceR; https://www.darthsanddroids.net/solo/solo155.html
00:15 TR Bot; Darths & Droids
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00:19 XRevan86; MinceR: There are only two options in life: 1. either Putin gets to do what he pleases; 2. or ~~ Telegram ~~ a GMLRS is going to land on your roof.
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00:21 XRevan86; MinceR: Ye or I may not see the connection and think that this is false dichotomy, but this is just because we are not as smart as aggi.
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00:23 MinceR; :>
00:27 DaemonFC; MinceR"except the ones who are dead"
00:28 DaemonFC; But there's no sense crying over every mistake.
00:28 DaemonFC; You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.
00:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I actually do moderate on room on Matrix.org.
00:32 DaemonFC; I throw out anyone who starts arguing about "trannies" or "rape apologists" or anything else I don't want to hear about.
00:33 DaemonFC; The room quickly goes back to people discussing things instead of being provoked into stupid arguments by people like mjg59_ .
00:33 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-16-09-17 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1571273803774271488 )
00:33 TR Bot; Sitrep for September 16 Telegraph
00:33 TR Bot; (en) (@CITeam_en): "September 16 sitrep: What we know of the attack on the Russian town of Valuiki; DPR commander warns of personnel outflow as Russia sends (more) conscripts to the border; Exhumations at Izyum mass graves continue, with evidence of executions emerging https://te.legra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-16-09-17"|nitter.it
00:33 XRevan86; > the Russian forces are completely abandoning the Kharkiv region.
00:33 XRevan86; And so we get the first occupational administration in exile.
00:34 DaemonFC; LMAO
00:35 DaemonFC; Yeah, I heard that the people who collaborated are fleeing across the border before Ukrainian officials can re-establish administrative control.
00:35 DaemonFC; Good idea.
00:35 DaemonFC; Backing the wrong side and having it go well for a couple of months there followed by a public hanging. :)
00:36 DaemonFC; "n addition, Freuding commented on the actions of the Russians. When withdrawing from the battlefield, it is accepted practice to destroy the equipment which a retreating force is unable to take with it. The Russian army, in contrast, abandoned a huge quantity of equipment which would be sufficient to equip an entire brigade."
00:36 mixling; XRevan86: some reports were, Putin may release prisoners to fight
00:36 XRevan86; DaemonFC: There was a report that not everyone with the Russian (internal) "passport" issued on Ukrainian territory could enter Russia.
00:37 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Don't know the details of that unfortunately.
00:37 mixling; last time Russia did this, was Yugoslavia; a documentary showed, how this ended.
00:37 XRevan86; mixling: That's wrong, prisoners are already released to fight and there are already PoWs.
00:38 DaemonFC; "Ukrainian war trophies are still being counted. During the past day, another 10 tanks and 26 armored vehicles were found. "
00:38 mixling; many of those heavy tanks were probably outdated equipment
00:38 DaemonFC; XRevan86: So why aren't the Russians blowing up the tanks and APCs before they go?
00:39 MinceR; they probably don't care
00:39 XRevan86; mixling: https://theins.press/en/news/255089 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/16/if-you-didn-t-follow-instructions-they-shot-you
00:39 TR Bot; Putin's chef Prigozhin recruits 150 inmates to Wagner PMC in one swoop
00:39 TR Bot; NO TITLE
00:39 MinceR; they're probably demoralized
00:39 XRevan86; DaemonFC, MinceR: It's a good valid question.
00:40 MinceR; their government doesn't exactly support them, afaik
00:40 MinceR; they don't get proper clothing, they don't get proper food
00:40 XRevan86; The running hypothesis is that the strict chain of command crushes initiative and the superiors didn't organise orderly retreat.
00:40 DaemonFC; Yes, but they'll be ordered back eventually and then there's dozens more tanks that they'll be on the business end of.
00:40 DaemonFC; So you'd think that they would just go ahead and destroy it before they leave with that thought in mind.
00:40 MinceR; they're goners anyway
00:41 MinceR; also, the russian government likes to use non-russian ethnicities in this war
00:41 MinceR; they don't care about those people
00:41 XRevan86; DaemonFC: This was messed up just like everything else in this war.
00:41 DaemonFC; It's actually worse for the Russians if they are leaving behind Soviet-era tanks and stuff.
00:41 mixling; XRevan86: didn't have Russian military a capable air-force?
00:41 MinceR; i'm sure they had one, some time before 1990
00:41 DaemonFC; Those are the ones that the Ukrainians are best trained on anyway because they use them.
00:41 mixling; if Putin wanted to, had not this air-force taken action?
00:42 XRevan86; mixling: Good point. Read the sitrep :).
00:42 MinceR; putler's underlings probably stole the money that was meant to be spent on maintaining that equipment as well
00:42 DaemonFC; "The Russian Cossacks who fought as part of the BARS-15 detachment returned to Orenburg. Of the original detachment (probably 20 men), one was killed and four were wounded. Of those who returned, only three decided to extend the contract."
00:42 XRevan86; > The general noted that the Aerospace Forces of Russia allocated 550 aircraft to the entire operation which, according to NATO doctrine, should be carrying out up to 1200 sorties per day.
00:42 XRevan86; > However, in reality Russian aircraft are only carrying out up to 300 combat missions per day and only 10% of these are directed towards supporting ground troops.
00:42 XRevan86; > General Christian Freuding links this problem not only to Ukrainian air defense operations, but also to Russian problems with logistics and aircraft maintenance.
00:43 DaemonFC; MinceR: Even if the Ukrainians can't ultimately use it, they can break them down for spare parts.
00:43 DaemonFC; So they are still worth "something".
00:43 DaemonFC; Like if I can't get a replacement part for my Buick I can go see if there's one in the junkyard I can take the part I need off of.
00:43 DaemonFC; I've had a lot of cars like that.
00:44 XRevan86; MinceR: "also, the russian government likes to use non-russian ethnicities in this war" <- Not really, it's more that the more far removed a place is from the political/economical centre (Moscow and St. Petersburg), the more likely they're to end up at this war.
00:44 DaemonFC; Something breaks and there's no way to fix it with a new part.
00:44 DaemonFC; But there's plenty in a junkyard.
00:44 mixling; i think, there isn't interest in escalating to the scale of what Russian military was capable of, with their air-force.
00:44 XRevan86; MinceR: And the pooper the easier it is to lure people in with military salaries.
00:44 mixling; and a handful of fighter jets deploying payload, sufficed, to end this quickly.
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00:45 XRevan86; mixling: I failed to parse that.
00:46 mixling; XRevan86: i say, a nuclear military force such as Russia, may have ended this conflict in a few days.
00:46 mixling; however, they don't
00:47 XRevan86; mixling: How charitable that Russia isn't suiciding over this.
00:48 mixling; i think, it isn't supposedly missing military capabilities, which prolong this.
00:48 XRevan86; mixling: Also if Russia actually had an organised modern military, it would've won already.
00:49 XRevan86; mixling: So that should give some food for thought about whether Russia has an organised modern military.
00:49 XRevan86; MinceR: There is a telling example of that from July: https://youtu.be/hGZKD9eBoZw
00:49 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=hGZKD9eBoZw
00:49 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=hGZKD9eBoZw )
00:49 XRevan86; "Russian state TV: Grieving parents buy new car with 'coffin money' after son was killed in Ukraine"
00:50 mixling; XRevan86: what's the morale among russian military?
00:50 XRevan86; MinceR: The trick is, this news report was not shown in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
00:50 MinceR; XRevan86: what about the chechens?
00:51 MinceR; "what Russian military was capable of," -- probably also known as "jack shit"
00:51 XRevan86; mixling: Unprecedented amount of Refuseniks.
00:51 MinceR; i wonder whether they even managed to maintain their nuclear weapons
00:51 MinceR; nuclear warheads don't last forever
00:51 XRevan86; MinceR: I heard mixed reports about the Kadyrovs.
00:52 XRevan86; But mostly they got infamous for being the TikTok army force.
00:52 XRevan86; They chased the clout a lot. Haven't seen memes with them in a while though, don't know what's up with that.
00:52 mixling; and i would raise another question: what's the exit strategy?
00:53 mixling; even when, negotiate, some less russians going on holidays in crimea... then what?
00:53 mixling; shiny happy people everywhere?
00:53 DaemonFC; XRevan86But mostly they got infamous for being the TikTok army force.
00:53 MinceR; :>
00:53 XRevan86; mixling: There is no exit strategy.
00:53 CrystalMath; it is quite demoralizing to realize that your government cares so much about ukrainians that they try to protect ukraine's civil infrastructure, while also telling people to go kill them...
00:54 MinceR; 18 015257 < mixling> and i would raise another question: what's the exit strategy?
00:54 DaemonFC; I noticed that. Like, they drove around in military vehicles and then never did much of anything.
00:54 MinceR; putler's?
00:54 CrystalMath; Kadyrov should be president of russia
00:54 MinceR; probably shooting himself in the head
00:54 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I liked the traffic light shooting one.
00:54 mixling; MinceR: anyone's, including EU and whoever whish-thinked to pro-long re-labeled energy supplies could be bargained with 999.999% surplus margins
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00:55 XRevan86; The enemy traffic lights shall not pass!
00:55 MinceR; oh, i think if the west dared, they could get those fossil fuels much more cheaply
00:55 MinceR; 18 015441 < XRevan86> DaemonFC: I liked the traffic light shooting one.
00:55 MinceR; too much Doom Eternal?
00:55 mixling; MinceR: minor mistake, EU re-labeled nuclear and gas as sustainable green whatever
00:56 MinceR; mixling: what does that have to do with your fuhrer's war?
00:56 mixling; as long as they got their trade-margins funneled into their pockets... it's green renewable
00:56 XRevan86; MinceR: https://youtu.be/_tHA0faUDr0
00:56 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=_tHA0faUDr0
00:56 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | TikTok- - Invidious
00:56 MinceR; (i mean, it's the game that's full of "shoot it when it turns green")
00:56 mixling; MinceR: EU depends on him
00:57 XRevan86; MinceR: haha
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00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 159.65
00:59 immibis_; mixling: not a mistake, done to increase oligarch money
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01:00 XRevan86; mixling: Ye know what, I can recommend you a book that I think ye will find interesting.
01:00 XRevan86; https://theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/they-turned-us-into-savages-russian-soldier-describes-start-of-ukraine-invasion
01:00 TR Bot; They turned us into savages: Russian soldier describes start of Ukraine invasion | Ukraine | The Guardian
01:01 XRevan86; It's called ZOV by Pavel Filatyev.
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01:04 mixling; meanwhile, hedonist proles celebrate octoberfest, germany, 2022
01:05 mixling; no more lock-down, no more covid
01:06 XRevan86; https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1560037073784127488.html Apparently this is the best there is about ZOV in English.
01:06 TR Bot; Thread by @ChrisO_wiki on Thread Reader App Thread Reader App
01:08 XRevan86; https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/media/master/zov-en.txt Oh hey.
01:08 XRevan86; https://czmyt.substack.com/p/zovpdf-machine-translation-to-english
01:08 TR Bot; ZOV.pdf Machine Translation to English - Czmyt's Pubs
01:08 XRevan86; mixling: There ye go.
01:11 XRevan86; Not a journalist, not a Ukrainian, first-hand experience from a Russian soldier.
01:12 MinceR; which is the best translation of those?
01:12 XRevan86; And bear in mind, this is about the part of the February Mongoose Leap that went best: the invasion of Kherson.
01:12 XRevan86; MinceR: Hard to say. The last two links are the same translation.
01:13 MinceR; hm
01:13 XRevan86; The Twitter thread processed the text and is not the original.
01:14 MinceR; then the txt has some problems with it
01:14 MinceR; the first "It" is missing, then there's an extra "For" after 33
01:14 XRevan86; But it has illustrations, so that's a big pro.
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:21 MinceR; yeah, the illustrations are nice
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01:33 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367921/ cc: DaemonFC, MinceR
01:33 TR Bot; Occupiers are preparing retreat routes in Kherson Oblast, they have sunk 9 wagons ? General Staff | Ukrainska Pravda
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01:38 XRevan86; At least some attempts to prepare an exit strategy are made.
01:39 AdmFubar; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/culture-has-lost-the-ability-to-grasp-the-present.html
01:39 TR Bot; Culture Has Lost the Ability to Grasp the Present | naked capitalism
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01:42 XRevan86; AdmFubar: Regarding music, in the 90s we've reached the point when any sound can be synthesised, that could be why it's harder to surprise people with music.
01:44 XRevan86; "We remain trapped in the 20th century." <- Meanwhile starstreak is generating https://i.imgur.com/xDFiat1.png for lols.
01:47 XRevan86; Also there was no Putin as President in the 20th century so clearly the people of the past didn't understand true love towards one's President.
01:47 XRevan86; I pity them.
01:49 mixling; XRevan86: what was the military objectives?
01:49 XRevan86; mixling: Clarify?
01:49 mixling; Russian troops arrived in the cities, then what?
01:49 starstreak; XRevan86, :3
01:49 mixling; Camping holidays for some month and years?
01:50 XRevan86; mixling: The objective of the Mongoose Leap was to jumpscare Ukraine, occupy it and change the regime.
01:51 mixling; A regime change had been easier, if the Ukraine pipeline business was terminated, by Russia, which didn't occur.
01:52 XRevan86; mixling: It was supposed to happen within a wekk.
01:52 XRevan86; week
01:52 MinceR; it's almost as if orcland needed the money for the fossil fuels
01:52 mixling; Nordstream2 construction finished, that's two pipelines there. Another one in Poland.
01:52 mixling; if Russia intended regime change, they had to disconnect the Ukrainian pipeline supply with russian gas.
01:52 XRevan86; We have to focus here, because the objectives of different phases of this war have been different.
01:53 mixling; which Putin didn't to my knowledge.
01:53 XRevan86; They're shifting while Russia's reassessing its capabilities.
01:53 XRevan86; mixling: In what world would that have changed anything on a scale of a week?
01:53 DaemonFC; I was going over the IRCv3 implementation in SeaMonkey.
01:53 MinceR; the orcs are moving the goalposts in hopes of avoiding having to admit defeat
01:53 DaemonFC; The patches come from the "Ambassador" fork.
01:54 mixling; XRevan86: one week? less than 24hours i guess.
01:54 XRevan86; mixling: Ukrainian economy is not 100% transit.
01:55 XRevan86; If we're talking about what's happening right now, then the transit is still going because: 1. Ukraine does want the money; 2. Putin and Orban have an arrangement and so Druzhba is piping gas to Hungary.
01:57 XRevan86; I don't really remember and don't know how to double check but I think that Germany is Druzhba-less because the pipes are split in Belarus to go into different directions (per the map I shared earlier), and the pipeline that goes to Liepzig was probably just severed there in Belarus.
01:58 XRevan86; If I stumble upon information about that I'll check it out, I'm curious about how that could possibly be justified.
01:59 mixling; XRevan86: time will tell.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 156.15
01:59 mixling; with this, they can't hide the truth.
01:59 mixling; and i do follow german news reports daily.
02:00 mixling; germany cannot prolong a winter season, without continued reliable supply of oil and gas.
02:00 XRevan86; MinceR: "it's almost as if orcland needed the money for the fossil fuels" <- Naturally, but apparently there are more important things than this income.
02:00 XRevan86; MinceR: The pipeline is absolutely a political instrument, and the revenue is sacrificed for the greater bad.
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02:02 mixling; let me say one more thing about this, if Russia decided to cut all gas supplies to anyone in EU/Germany, even then i wouldn't blame Putin for this
02:03 XRevan86; It wasn't initially, and Russia has got a lot of revenue from selling gas/petroleum for the first few months.
02:04 XRevan86; Russia already did, except Putin bought Orban's loyalty with gas.
02:05 mixling; this has nothing to do with loyalty
02:05 XRevan86; It absolutely does.
02:05 mixling; it's just reasonable and responsible for any president to negotiate contracts
02:06 XRevan86; mixling: Germany is trying to.
02:06 immibis_; mixling: wtf does "prolong a winter season" mean
02:06 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/us-moving-closer-letting-americans-file-taxes-online-and-free-2022-9
02:06 TR Bot; US Moving Closer to Letting Americans File Taxes Online for Free
02:06 mixling; in particular with heavy industry investments, which require decades of work and stability etc...
02:06 mixling; oil/gas, that's not some quick shitcoin business
02:06 DaemonFC; It takes me about 5 hours to figure out our "simple" taxes, and that's with the software doing most of the forms and calculations for me and with me providing the informational forms and answering questions, most of which don't apply.
02:07 XRevan86; mixling: The math is incredibly simple: Putin wants to scare Ukraine's allies into giving up.
02:07 XRevan86; That's the only hope he has at this point.
02:07 mixling; immibis_: no russian gas, and german industry won't survive another winter
02:07 immibis_; mixling: no german money, and russia as a country won't survive until summer
02:08 mixling; immibis_: wrong, EU/germany won't
02:08 immibis_; and why do you suppose industry uses more gas in winter than in summer?
02:08 immibis_; industrial uses for gas surely don't care
02:08 XRevan86; Scaring with nukes doesn't work, so he's doing it by cutting gas. It hurts Russia a lot, but Putin's war demands it.
02:08 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, ever watch Event Horizon?
02:08 immibis_; mixling: and nobody will survive anything, not in capitalism, nor in dictatorship
02:08 mixling; 60% of the energy is consumed by industry, 40% by households, rough estimates
02:09 thighest_hubris_crills; i did
02:09 immibis_; mixling: imagine being so woke that you think it's okay to genocide a race in order to continue burning dinosaurs
02:09 mixling; even if households do reduce gas/electricity consumption, they cannot compensate for industrial production requirements if gas supplies terminate
02:09 immibis_; gas supplies have terminated.
02:09 thighest_hubris_crills; it wasnt really my thing, but it featured one of the actors from my favourite movies. no, not sam neill
02:09 immibis_; you don't need to write "if"
02:09 mixling; currently government says private household consumption reduced, would save the plant and climate and whatnot propaganda rubbish
02:09 thighest_hubris_crills; s/movies/movie/
02:10 mixling; with electricity, i had seen data 80% industry 20% households
02:10 thighest_hubris_crills; james spader! lol (not him either, thats just funny)
02:10 immibis_; mixling: I take it you are shorting euros?
02:10 mixling; same with this, and much electricity is produced from gas-electrification in heat-power-coupling plants operated with gas
02:10 mixling; immibis_: i say euros or dollars are rubles are irelevant
02:10 thighest_hubris_crills; the guy who threw himself out the airlock before being pulled back in was also in undercover brother
02:10 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, i love the young James Spader, not the more current one
02:11 starstreak; he didn't age well
02:11 mixling; energy, which doesn't exist, cannot be neither sold, nor consumed nor taxed nor anything
02:11 thighest_hubris_crills; well we are talking about the young one anyway
02:11 immibis_; mixling: If you think Europe will collapse you could be a millionaire in your favourite currency
02:11 immibis_; ...if you're right.
02:11 thighest_hubris_crills; he certainly didnt age predictably
02:11 immibis_; (otherwise you lost your life savings)
02:11 immibis_; mixling: the saying "put your money where your mouth is" exists for a reason
02:12 mixling; immibis_: i haven't got no money to put anywhere
02:12 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, he was amazing in The Practice and Boston Legal. My two fav legal shows.
02:12 thighest_hubris_crills; the practice was pretty good
02:12 immibis_; mixling: then you are the weakest link, goodbye
02:12 thighest_hubris_crills; never watched boston legal
02:12 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/newsom-signs-childrens-online-safety-bill-into-california-law/
02:12 TR Bot; Newsom signs childrens online safety bill into California law
02:13 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, boston legal had James Spader and William Shatner as lawyers :D
02:13 immibis_; mixling: maybe if you start being less wrong about things you can make correct bets that make money
02:13 thighest_hubris_crills; how the fuck did calista flockhart end up with harrison ford
02:13 thighest_hubris_crills; how the fuck did william shatner end up playing a lawyer
02:14 mixling; i do not gamble immibis_
02:14 thighest_hubris_crills; /me imagines matlock doing coke and pretty much achieving the same effect
02:14 mixling; yet maybe you could explain to me, how Uniper and VNG filed bancruptcy, although energy prices exploded
02:15 mixling; how would such energy providers file bancruptcy if prices exploded to sell their energy?
02:15 mixling; immibis_: bet on it
02:15 mixling; that's not a shitcoin problem, energy which doesn't exist cannot be sold nor consumed nor taxed nor anything
02:15 immibis_; mixling: because they promised to sell it at a certain price, but they didn't get promises to buy it at a certain price
02:16 immibis_; or if they did, the promises were from russia
02:16 mixling; they haven't nothing to sell
02:16 immibis_; that is an example of a bed bet wiping out your life savings.
02:16 immibis_; mixling: of course they do! They could get it hand delivered in propane cans by oompa loompas.
02:16 XRevan86; Promises from Putin's Russia are not worth much.
02:16 immibis_; nah. putin would never break a promise to not invade ukraine
02:17 immibis_; since putin would never break a promise and he promised not to invade, I can conclude he didn't invade
02:17 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, XD
02:17 mixling; XRevan86: you're mistaken, that's not russian gas they sell, it's "renewable" "alternative supplier" "eu trading hub" energy
02:17 immibis_; mixling: they sell gas and the customer does not care where they get the gas
02:18 immibis_; they promised to sell gas, they did not sell gas, therefore they are bankrupt.
02:18 *immibis_ is now known as immibis
02:19 mixling; so, Putin was watching this, seeing how those companies sold all those magic energy out of thin air, EU politicians argueing they don't need russian gas
02:19 mixling; ok then, pipelines are expesnive to operate... close them.
02:19 immibis; mixling: define need
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02:20 mixling; immibis: that's political arguments, evil ruskies, fossil killing the climate all this, and it's all Putin's fault of cause
02:20 immibis; mixling: define need
02:20 immibis; no, any crisis is fully germany's fault, reaping what it sowed
02:21 mixling; particular interests in germany, of those who resold "alternative supplier" "renewable" energy with 999.999% surplus margins, in germany, not russia
02:21 XRevan86; It's not Putin's fault that Germany shut down nuclear power plants just to get dependent on Russia.
02:22 immibis; mixling: your rants do not make sense, please make them make sense
02:22 mixling; it's not germany's fault either, it was "Alliance90/greens", atlantic bridge minions mainly who agitated for this
02:22 XRevan86; This is done, now something should be done to rectify the situation.
02:22 immibis; have you tried an ideal diode bridge?
02:22 starstreak; Linucks
02:22 thighest_hubris_crills; linux surface
02:23 mixling; simple: remove constitutional enemies from government, in germany, first and foremost "Alliance90/greens" and any "atlantic bridge" affiliates
02:23 XRevan86; immibis: Ironically, today mixling makes more sense than on his bad days.
02:23 thighest_hubris_crills; a tux surface
02:23 mixling; this too, should end war quickly, bet on it, and this won't happen XRevan86
02:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Pretty much all the Facebook ads I see now are advertising buckets of end of the world food.
02:23 mixling; because guess whose pockets are filled with shitcoins by this?
02:23 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, attack surface
02:23 immibis; the previous three sentences made especially little sense
02:23 immibis; is it now a bad day?
02:23 starstreak; DaemonFC, thats because FB thinks you're crazy
02:24 DaemonFC; They're wrong, of course.
02:24 starstreak; lol ok
02:24 DaemonFC; A person who cuts their penis off and sets themselves on fire is crazy.
02:24 DaemonFC; mjg59_ attributes their suicide to Kiwi Farms.
02:25 immibis; oh great, DaemonFC is a Nazi now...
02:25 starstreak; immibis, yeah he is
02:25 starstreak; immibis, just blocked him AGAIN lol
02:25 immibis; the world's only economically-left Nazi
02:25 XRevan86; immibis: He's saying that if the German government is replaced with someone like Orban, then Putin would have no resistance in Ukraine and he'd quickly conquer and end the war with victory.
02:25 starstreak; immibis, hes a republican now
02:25 immibis; XRevan86: well that's obviously correct
02:25 XRevan86; immibis: Not exactly.
02:25 immibis; or at least partially
02:26 immibis; it would have to be Germany and Poland and Lithuania and so on.
02:26 XRevan86; Ukrainians are a stubborn bunch.
02:26 immibis; they could even be convinced to ally with Russia in exchange for gas
02:27 XRevan86; Odds are such action would turn the war into a positional war for many years.
02:27 mixling; XRevan86: this is _not_ what i am saying
02:27 mixling; XRevan86: i am saying there is benefitiaries, you had not know existed
02:28 mixling; and their methods and lies
02:28 XRevan86; mixling: Okay, then your words are even less coherent than I thought.
02:28 mixling; as the root cause of evil of all this
02:28 immibis; mixling: for example, Republicans benefit from high gas prices
02:28 XRevan86; mixling: Are they in the room with us right now?
02:29 DaemonFC; I didn't say kill the men who cut their penis off.
02:29 mixling; immibis: it is _not_ gas prices, those didn't change, the contracts with russia were long-term ones
02:29 DaemonFC; I said I don't agree that this changes one's gender.
02:29 DaemonFC; And that setting oneself on fire says a lot about their mental health.
02:29 mixling; the "EU trading hub" prices, where "alternative suppliers" sold russian gas relabeled as "renewable"
02:29 XRevan86; mixling: No one gives a shit about those contracts when Russia doesn't actually deliver.
02:30 mixling; XRevan86: russia did deliver, according to contracts, it was EU show sanctioned those.
02:30 immibis; mixling: German companies have no choice except to buy gas at other market prices or to go bankrupt
02:31 mixling; it is "Alliance90/Greens" who deny Nordstream 2 operation
02:31 immibis; mixling: Isn't it odd how you rant about the energy not existing and then when you're wrong, suddenly you say it does exist?
02:31 XRevan86; Gazprom has long-term contracts, and the Budapest memorandum forbids Russia from claiming territory of Ukraine.
02:31 mixling; immibis: if there isn't any gas, they cannot buy nor sell any
02:31 XRevan86; So clearly nothing wrong can possibly be happening, there are contracts.
02:31 immibis; mixling: not from russia
02:31 immibis; mixling: You literally just said they could get it from russia
02:32 immibis; DaemonFC: what is gender?
02:32 mixling; immibis: why then, if those pipelines are closed, do various other "alternative" suppliers disappear all of the sudden?
02:32 mixling; what did those "alternative" suppliers sell?
02:32 XRevan86; mixling: "russia did deliver, according to contracts" <- There's no war according to contracts.
02:32 immibis; DaemonFC: can severe harassment such as real-life stalking and death threats affect someone's mental health?
02:32 mixling; or buy?
02:32 immibis; mixling: what suppliers?
02:33 mixling; immibis: Uniper and VNG filed bancruptcy while they could sell their energy at record prices
02:33 XRevan86; mixling: The EU did not sanction those.
02:33 DaemonFC; immibisDaemonFC: what is gender?
02:33 mixling; that's only two of them, and there's more details to this, "renewable" energy, that's their favorite one to re-label and cheat
02:33 DaemonFC; An immutable trait.
02:33 XRevan86; immibis: Russia says "lift the sanctions or no gas for you", it means the sanctions *in general*.
02:34 immibis; mixling: what energy?
02:34 DaemonFC; immibisDaemonFC: can severe harassment such as real-life stalking and death threats affect someone's mental health?
02:34 DaemonFC; Sure, but they haven't proved that was actually happening.
02:34 immibis; mixling: How many gas drills do Uniper and VNG operate?
02:34 mixling; immibis: there isn't none. exactly.
02:34 immibis; DaemonFC: other than the people doing the harassment saying they were doing it?
02:34 immibis; DaemonFC: "<DaemonFC> [Gender is] an immutable trait." <- oh that's the definition? So my gender is 180cm?
02:35 XRevan86; mixling: Russia chooses not to deliver.
02:35 DaemonFC; Gender cannot be changed by cutting off your dick and taking horse estrogen.
02:35 XRevan86; Those contracts mean jack shit.
02:35 DaemonFC; Sorry, Charlie.
02:36 immibis; DaemonFC: Is my gender 180cm?
02:36 DaemonFC; It turns a man into a really bizarre Eunuch.
02:36 immibis; DaemonFC: or maybe my gender is light skin? That's an immutable trait.
02:37 immibis; gender is defined as "an immutable trait", skin colour is an immutable trait, therefore skin colour is a gender. Right?
02:37 DaemonFC; I'm a man. There's no changing it.
02:37 DaemonFC; Refusal to accept reality and hating oneself instead leads to poor mental health.
02:38 DaemonFC; Which contributes to becoming suicidal.
02:38 DaemonFC; That's why "Trans People" have like a 60% higher rate of suicide.
02:38 XRevan86; immibis: Not to agree with DaemonFC, but that's like saying that if "const int a = 0, b = 1;", then a and b are the same.
02:38 thighest_hubris_crills; if skin colour is immutable, tanning beds will never work
02:38 DaemonFC; It's an extreme form of self-rejection.
02:38 immibis; XRevan86: if your *definition* of a is "a constant integer" then yes, b is a
02:39 immibis; DaemonFC: What is gender?
02:39 XRevan86; immibis: Um, they're clearly two separate constants.
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02:40 DaemonFC; Gender is a combination of things. It isn't any one of these things, but it is one of two possible combinations.
02:40 XRevan86; Just because they're both immutable "variables", doesn't mean they're one and the same.
02:40 DaemonFC; For example, a real woman can normally get pregnant unless there's something physically very wrong with them or they've gone through menopause or had a tubal ligation.
02:40 DaemonFC; Trans men never get pregnant.
02:40 immibis; XRevan86: And "an immutable trait" clearly isn't the definition of "gender"
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02:41 DaemonFC; Err, Trans Women I meant to say.
02:41 immibis; DaemonFC: Gender is a combination of which things?
02:41 XRevan86; immibis: Ah, I see.
02:41 DaemonFC; You can cut off a man's dick, you can put lipstick on him.
02:41 DaemonFC; But he'll never get pregnant.
02:42 DaemonFC; You can do some sort of expensive and bizarre invasive surgery to make something that resembles a vagina.
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02:42 immibis; DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions.
02:42 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Fun fact: an XY woman can't get pregnant.
02:42 immibis; Klinefelter syndrome right?
02:42 DaemonFC; In very nearly every case where you look at a "Trans Woman", you can tell that they're actually not a woman.
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02:42 DaemonFC; Their bone structure and height and the Adam's Apple give it away.
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02:43 DaemonFC; Keith never became "passable" despite all of the money he pissed away.
02:43 immibis; DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions.
02:44 DaemonFC; Had he paid his income taxes instead of for those surgeries he'd be a man on Social Security instead of something that escaped from the lab that has to keep working while he's on an oxygen tank.
02:44 immibis; DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions.
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02:45 XRevan86; immibis: "Klinefelter syndrome right?" <- I think it's called Swyer syndrome.
02:46 XRevan86; There's also the reversed (XX men) one: de la Chapelle syndrome.
02:46 DaemonFC; I already told Roy how I felt about "Trans" people the other day when he even mentioned that a lot of gay men don't like having them around and are not comfortable around them.
02:47 DaemonFC; He wasn't wrong.
02:47 DaemonFC; It's like not _as_ bad as having NAMBLA try to crash you.
02:47 XRevan86; DaemonFC: So what's your opinion on Swyer syndrome?
02:47 DaemonFC; And that's about the nicest thing I can say about them.
02:47 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
02:47 TR Bot; XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia
02:47 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Is a person with it a man or a woman?
02:48 immibis; DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions.
02:48 immibis; [[[DaemonFC is banned from this channel due to rambling. Hang up the phone and try again later.]]]
02:49 XRevan86; https://healthjade.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Swyer-syndrome.jpg
02:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://healthjade.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Swyer-syndrome.jpg )
02:49 XRevan86; There's an example of such man.
02:49 immibis; clownflare
02:50 XRevan86; Not hard to look up.
02:50 DaemonFC; So they agree that's a disease right?
02:50 DaemonFC; Just asking.
02:51 XRevan86; It's not even diagnosed in many cases.
02:52 XRevan86; So ye can imagine in how much dis-ease these people are.
02:52 DaemonFC; Outside of some freak of nature disease.....
02:52 immibis; DaemonFC: What is gender?
02:54 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's a corner case, but it showcases just how diverse sexuality can get, even to a point where XY for a woman is not challenged by anyone.
02:54 XRevan86; No surgeries, nothing, straight from birth.
02:56 XRevan86; DaemonFC: So maybe, just maybe, ye are oversimplifying the concept with your layman understanding of sexuality, and annoying people who have a different experience.
02:56 DaemonFC; Other than some sort of disease, there are two genders.
02:57 immibis; DaemonFC: What is gender?
02:57 immibis; You said there are two of them. But what is it?
02:57 DaemonFC; Male or Female.
02:57 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "Outside of some freak of nature disease....." <- Could ye even tell though? That could be anyone (who's infertile).
02:58 DaemonFC; Of course, if you listen to mjg59_ and his type, Male is worse because if you're a White Male, you're already 9/10ths of the way towards being a sex predator. Unless you work for Microsoft, and then he'll leave you alone.
02:58 immibis; DaemonFC: What is a gender? How do I know if something is a gender?
02:58 DaemonFC; XRevan86DaemonFC: "Outside of some freak of nature disease....." <- Could ye even tell though? That could be anyone (who's infertile).
02:58 XRevan86; immibis: Gender is masculine, feminine and neutral (:
02:58 DaemonFC; A real woman who is infertile is still a real woman. She either has a disease, has gotten sterilized, or has gone through menopause.
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02:59 DaemonFC; A man who gets his dick cut off and then self-immolates is mentally ill.
02:59 immibis; XRevan86: You are overloading DaemonFC's very limited brainpower by saying anything more complex than a short question
02:59 immibis; DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions.
02:59 DaemonFC; immibisDaemonFC: What is a gender? How do I know if something is a gender?
02:59 XRevan86; DaemonFC: How do ye tell a woman scientifically?
03:00 DaemonFC; You almost always can tell by looking. It's not "scientific" perhaps.
03:00 DaemonFC; There are some men who can be very convincing in drag.
03:00 DaemonFC; But most of them can't.
03:00 mixling; gender is defined a "social construct", not biological
03:00 mixling; as
03:00 starstreak; im glad i blocked him again
03:00 DaemonFC; 95% of the time, a "Trans" person will look absolutely nothing like the gender they are masquerading as.
03:00 immibis; DaemonFC: I can look at skin colour and tell that skin colour isn't a gender? How do I know?
03:01 DaemonFC; Not even close, 95% of the time.
03:01 immibis; Is the number 5 a gender?
03:01 DaemonFC; So again, not scientific, but a good general rule.
03:01 mixling; if you follow this definition or not, that's another question
03:01 XRevan86; DaemonFC: What if your rule is different from another person's rule?
03:01 DaemonFC; If I pretended to be a woman it wouldn't be a very good act.
03:02 DaemonFC; You'd see right away that I was 255 pounds and 6 foot 4 inches tall.
03:02 DaemonFC; There's not many women that just tower over you.
03:02 DaemonFC; Also, my voice.
03:02 DaemonFC; It just would not happen. I would not be fooling anyone.
03:02 DaemonFC; But there's some liberals who would be all like "That's a woman!".
03:02 DaemonFC; "She's very brave!"
03:03 immibis; XRevan86: see, DaemonFC is unable to understand how to stop rambling and answer questions.
03:03 DaemonFC; It's like that.
03:04 immibis; probably doesn't even understand what I just said.
03:04 DaemonFC; Also, if I cut my dick off, I'd just be a Eunuch, not a woman.
03:04 immibis; poor thing
03:04 DaemonFC; So that's not it either.
03:04 immibis; where's the IRC extension that allows you to slap someone in a face if they go on a stupid rant for 3 minutes?
03:04 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I am curious, are ye aware of such a thing as a clitoris?
03:04 DaemonFC; My body would never produce the same hormones as a woman, even without testicles.
03:04 DaemonFC; So I'd have to take horse hormones.
03:05 DaemonFC; Then my voice wouldn't be right. It would just be WEIRD.
03:05 DaemonFC; Like Keith's.
03:05 DaemonFC; In 1994, Keith came by to drop off some birthday presents for my cousins. Dressed as a woman.
03:06 DaemonFC; I opened the door and I was like "WTF IS THIS SHIT!!!?" at like 10, I mean, there's no explaining this to a 10 year old who is even kind of in their right mind, which is why the liberals want to brainwash kids with drag queens at the library.
03:07 XRevan86; immibis: I think he skipped class on anthropology.
03:07 AdmFubar; https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/we-spoke-with-the-last-person-standing-in-the-floppy-disk-business/
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03:07 DaemonFC; And I'm sure "WTF IS THIS SHIT!?!?" was all over my face, like "Whoa!". "I don't know what I'm looking at, but this is bad. Real bad. I've seen some stuff man. I've seen some shit!".
03:07 mixling; form a biological perspective, in animal kingdom, it is more often males who are more colorful and expressive with their behaviour
03:07 mixling; to impress females, to mate with
03:07 mixling; *from
03:07 DaemonFC; So I go find my mom and I'm like "Mom! Uncle Keith's here......and he's dressed like a woman.".
03:07 immibis; XRevan86: he skipped the ability to read and write coherently
03:08 DaemonFC; XRevan86immibis: I think he skipped class on anthropology.
03:08 DaemonFC; I don't think I care.
03:08 mixling; almost always, if sexual dimorphism includes attractive coloration, it's males who got them, in nature
03:08 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Read on female biology.
03:09 immibis; DaemonFC: You don't know what gender is.
03:09 DaemonFC; If I was interested in female biology, I probably wouldn't be gay.
03:09 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Women also have a "dick", it's just very small.
03:09 mixling; females, mostly signal their reproductive cycle, without excessive coloration or behaviour
03:10 mixling; with females it's mostly health only which attracts
03:10 XRevan86; So cutting one's "dick" off is not proper wording.
03:10 mixling; with males it's coloration, excessive behaviour and whatnot
03:10 mixling; besides health and strength
03:10 DaemonFC; A man who is in a normal state of mental health wants to keep his dick and usually wishes that there was a way to make it bigger than it is.
03:10 DaemonFC; A man who wants to cut it off is mentally ill.
03:10 XRevan86; DaemonFC: So does that mean ye are not interested in women in the most literal sense?
03:10 DaemonFC; Most people with a dick will protect that before they protect any other body part. It's like, built-in programming.
03:11 DaemonFC; You protect your nuts before anything else.
03:11 XRevan86; That's the most fragile part of the body
03:11 DaemonFC; It transcends politics, nationality. However you say it in Russian, if I throw a baseball and you think it's going to hit you and it's too late to catch it, you probably protect your balls.
03:12 mixling; insofar, cosmetics and excess coloration, among human females, is a gendered social habit, it's not natural when they're doing it
03:12 XRevan86; mixling: Every animal is different.
03:12 mixling; in a biological sense, a drag queen, is the natural state of male behaviour
03:12 DaemonFC; mixlingin a biological sense, a drag queen, is the natural state of male behaviour
03:12 mixling; to attract females however, not males
03:12 XRevan86; There's no umbrella that explains sexual behaviour of every creature on this planet.
03:13 DaemonFC; Hey, I'm all for some males dressing up, maybe, as a sex kink. But it's not something to parade around in front of children.
03:13 immibis; DaemonFC: Men are attracted to women.
03:13 DaemonFC; Or in public for that matter.
03:13 XRevan86; immibis: Hm, then maybe DaemonFC is a woman.
03:13 immibis; DaemonFC: Men are attracted to women or they have a mental illness - in your words.
03:13 DaemonFC; I didn't say that.
03:14 DaemonFC; It's a mental illness to not want to remain intact.
03:14 DaemonFC; :)
03:14 XRevan86; A freak of nature kind of a woman but there's nothing wrong with that.
03:14 immibis; DaemonFC: It's a mental illness to not want to fuck the opposite sex.
03:14 DaemonFC; Be happy with what you are. You're not going to change it.
03:14 DaemonFC; Being gay didn't require me to go have cosmetic surgery.
03:15 immibis; DaemonFC: It does require you to perform mentally ill sick acts.
03:15 immibis; DaemonFC: Putting your dick in a man's butt is mental illness.
03:15 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Ye are probably using your body parts not as they are biologically intended, no?
03:15 DaemonFC; XRevan86DaemonFC: Ye are probably using your body parts not as they are biologically intended, no?
03:15 DaemonFC; Whenever I can.
03:15 immibis; DaemonFC: A man's butt will never be able to get pregnant.
03:15 DaemonFC; immibisDaemonFC: A man's butt will never be able to get pregnant.
03:15 DaemonFC; That's the best part.
03:16 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Is your anus a vagina?
03:16 DaemonFC; God knows how many bastards I'd have with how many people by now.
03:16 DaemonFC; Ugh.
03:16 immibis; DaemonFC: If I pretended my butt could make babies it wouldn't be a very good act.
03:16 immibis; DaemonFC: 95% of the time, a "anus" will look absolutely nothing like the vagina it is masquerading as.
03:16 immibis; In very nearly every case where you look at a gay couple, you can tell that they're actually not a couple.
03:16 DaemonFC; I know that.
03:17 immibis; A real couple can normally get pregnant unless there's something physically very wrong with them or they've gone through menopause or had a tubal ligation.
03:17 DaemonFC; The anus part, that is.
03:17 DaemonFC; immibisA real couple can normally get pregnant unless there's something physically very wrong with them or they've gone through menopause or had a tubal ligation.
03:17 DaemonFC; Human pair bonding by itself doesn't have to have anything to do with wanting children.
03:17 immibis; Sex is between a man and a woman.
03:17 DaemonFC; Many straight people don't want them and will go to any length to avoid it, including murder (abortion) if they screw up.
03:18 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The Constitution of Russia disagrees.
03:18 DaemonFC; The Constitution of Orcland is irrelevant.
03:18 immibis; Sex cannot be made by putting your dick in a butt and calling yourself a couple.
03:18 immibis; Refusal to accept reality and hating oneself instead leads to poor mental health.
03:18 immibis; It's an extreme form of self-rejection.
03:18 immibis; Gay couples never have children.
03:18 DaemonFC; XRevan86: I doubt Russia will annex Illinois.
03:19 XRevan86; immibis: Or maybe it's masturbation with another person's butt.
03:19 DaemonFC; If they managed to get here I'd kill as many as I could before I let them take over my country.
03:19 immibis; A man who pretends their man friend is a fuckable woman is crazy.
03:19 DaemonFC; I can only imagine how the Ukrainians feel.
03:19 immibis; DaemonFC: Acknowledge your mental illness
03:19 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Exactly like that.
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03:20 DaemonFC; I think that "Trans" people are mentally ill, but I don't see why people would want to harass them about it.
03:20 immibis; DaemonFC: "Gay" people are mentally ill
03:21 DaemonFC; Picking on mentally ill people is hitting "below the belt".
03:21 XRevan86; immibis: If Kiwi Farms were to dox and troll DaemonFC a further right straight version of him would say "damn right".
03:21 immibis; XRevan86: indeed
03:21 DaemonFC; I doubt they would.
03:21 immibis; DaemonFC: Why? You're mentally ill
03:22 DaemonFC; I actually keep throwing out a guy from my Matrix room who keeps coming back under different accounts and posting anti-Trans and anti-Semitic memes.
03:22 DaemonFC; It's really annoying.
03:22 DaemonFC; A Nazi would say "find all of the Trans people and dig them out of their homes and shoot them", and I definitely don't support this.
03:23 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Also, it's not just Russia's Constitution, it's also Poland's.
03:23 DaemonFC; Or anything like that.
03:23 DaemonFC; I don't even agree with forcing them to go see a psychiatrist.
03:23 DaemonFC; I don't think that many people should be forced to see a psychiatrist though, to be honest.
03:24 DaemonFC; Maybe people who are dangerously psychotic.
03:24 immibis; DaemonFC: Your sexual deviance is dangerously psychotic. Keep it away from children.
03:25 DaemonFC; Like, "This guy could boil over and kill people.". The state curiously failed to bring Crimo III in front of a psychiatrist even though it expelled him from school for threatening to murder his classmates, and found a kill book complete with red ink for blood.
03:25 DaemonFC; So if they're not even going to make him see a psychiatrist, why would they force anyone else to?
03:25 XRevan86; immibis: Especially gay men kissing.
03:26 XRevan86; A lot of traditionalists will explain that this is the worst thing in the world and children should be shielded from that.
03:26 DaemonFC; I'm fairly certain that in most of Russia, Trans people would be in risk of being beaten to death.
03:26 DaemonFC; And the cops wouldn't even care.
03:27 XRevan86; I know some. Still alive.
03:27 DaemonFC; I'm amazed that such a backwards place even is a country.
03:27 DaemonFC; Having a lot of gas and oil turns petty thugs into world powers.
03:28 XRevan86; The homophobia is increasing though as the propaganda keeps painting LGBT as Europe's attempt to destroy Russia, a foreign influence and an external enemy.
03:29 mixling; XRevan86: i do follow the the typical feminist gaga propaganda here, who hijacks the "gender" definition from another perspective
03:29 XRevan86; Homophobia is a tool of manipulation.
03:29 mixling; and yes, this flavor of "gender" equality is harmful to any society where it flourishes
03:29 mixling; i should have put "equality" into quotes too
03:32 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 132850 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42630 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 14 days ago
03:32 mixling; although i am not homosexual, i praise every day i must not tolerate this type of "feminism" in my household
03:32 XRevan86; DaemonFC: This tool is used not just in Russia. Hungary "protects traditional values" as well.
03:33 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 42 GB TotalOut: 11 GB
03:33 XRevan86; And I don't know if Orban actually gives a shit or if that's a populist stunt as well.
03:33 XRevan86; mixling: Don't know what that means.
03:34 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:34 mixling; with "gender" defined as "social construct", the feminist position undermines _all_ other _necessary_ social contract
03:34 mixling; such as, _real_ higher education pays better than none thereof, that's absent in feminist gaga wonderland
03:35 XRevan86; Is that the Slippery Slope fallacy?
03:35 mixling; higher education and hard work to achieve it, that's worth nothing anymore
03:35 XRevan86; Haven't seen that in use for a while.
03:36 mixling; however, from the feminist position, the entire "gender" debate is a completely different one
03:36 mixling; to what DaemonFC seems concerned with
03:37 mixling; another hint: "women's rights", thats propaganda bullshit
03:37 mixling; it is, only "human rights"
03:37 mixling; whatever the "feminist" gaga propaganda boils up, such as women weren't educated in afghanistan, one example, many boys aren't either
03:38 mixling; in the "feminist" gaga wonderland, those afghan boys don't exist
03:38 mixling; just an example
03:38 DaemonFC; Like I said, all men are criminals according to the left.
03:38 DaemonFC; If nothing else, of thoughtcrime.
03:38 XRevan86; There's no "blackface", it is only "othercolourface".
03:41 XRevan86; Everything specific is propaganda, only the general terms are true.
03:41 AdmFubar; https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-voice-epic-apple.html
03:41 TR Bot; US gets a voice in Epic battle with Apple
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03:42 XRevan86; Another hint: "child labour" is propaganda bullshit. It is only "labour for everyone".
03:43 mixling; XRevan86: just listen to the feminist gender gaga, with them it's only poor little girls
03:45 XRevan86; immibis: I hope no one takes out of context what we wrote today mocking bigoted arguments.
03:47 mixling; i got a proposal for "madame president ursula", to resell geneder-equal gas at the "european trading hub"
03:48 mixling; irony with this, it's men's work, who build pipelines and refineries, and there won't be no supply no more for their "social ecological justic" and "gender equality"
03:48 mixling; "we are 50%, we want 50%"... guess how much 50% of nothing is?
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04:16 DaemonFC; Is Pale Moon an actual browser or a rotting Firefox fork?
04:19 mixling; it's re-labeled spyware made in usa.
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:23 AdmFubar; Star light, star bright,
04:23 AdmFubar; First starlink I connect to tonight,
04:23 AdmFubar; I wish I may, I wish I might,
04:23 AdmFubar; Have this wish of low latency, I wish tonight.
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04:58 DaemonFC; Well, Pidgin does work with IRC. Not very well without the plugins pack.
04:59 DaemonFC; Really....No /history support.
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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:21 DaemonFC; https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/by000gal11o
05:21 TR Bot; Healthtech startup DayTwo laying off dozens of employees | Ctech
05:21 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/liveperson-lays-off-11-workforce-193-employees/
05:21 TR Bot; Lays off 11% Workforce 193 Employees - LayoffsTracker
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06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:28 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, September 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:28 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:28 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:28 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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07:36 TR News; "Anyone here against knives because they are/can be used to harm other beings raise your hands!" gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/knives.gmi
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07:37 TR News; Late night thoughts about CDG gemini://gmi.bacardi55.io/gemlog/2022/09/18/late-night-thoughts-about-cdg/ Collective Directory of Geminispac
07:37 TR News; The Amazing Hypothetical Moon of Saturn gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220917-0.gmi
07:38 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D357.jpg
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07:39 TR News; Relative Power gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/relative_power.gmi "Maybe the Zen school of thought has is right, and we should just focus on whatever happens, without care for comparison or celebration."
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07:49 TR News; With Windows, there are back doors. With Linux, one need to actually take over a system somehow https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/09/14/you-never-walk-alone-sidewalk-backdoor-linux-variant/
07:49 TR Bot; never walk alone: The SideWalk backdoor gets a Linux variant | WeLiveSecurity
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07:57 TR News; (NEW): Introducing master_me, a mastering plugin for live broadcasting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Introducing_master_me_a_mastering_plugin_for_live_broadcasting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Introducing_master_me_a_mastering_plugin_for_live_broadcasting.gmi
07:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Introducing master_me, a mastering plugin for live broadcasting
07:58 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.gmi
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07:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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08:07 TR News; China Discovers Stunning Crystal on the Moon, Nuclear Fusion Fuel for Limitless Energy - VICE https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/epzaga/china-moon-crystal-nuclear-fusion Source: Vice | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.vice.com/amp/en/article/epzaga/china-moon-crystal-nuclear-fusion
08:07 TR Bot; Discovers Stunning Crystal on the Moon, Nuclear Fusion Fuel for Limitless Energy - VICE
08:07 TR News; Device speeds up, simplifies image processing for autonomous vehicles and other applications https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2022/08/silicon-image-sensor-computes
08:07 TR Bot; Silicon image sensor that computes
08:08 TR News; "Cooperative research agreement aims to unleash innovation in the semiconductor and nanotechnology industries." https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/09/nist-and-google-create-new-supply-chips-researchers-and-tech-startups
08:08 TR Bot; NIST and Google to Create New Supply of Chips for Researchers and Tech Startups | NIST
08:09 TR News; Brute-force machine learning https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-highlights-ai-potentially-dangerous-shortcuts.html
08:09 TR Bot; Study highlights how AI models take potentially dangerous 'shortcuts' in solving complex recognition tasks
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08:10 TR News; "The markets aren't excited about the acquisition $ADBE is down 17% today." https://matt-rickard.com/adobe-figma
08:10 TR Bot; Adobe/Figma
08:11 TR News; Scotts claims dont stack up - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/scotts-claims-dont-stack-up/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/scotts-claims-dont-stack-up/
08:11 TR Bot; Scott's claims don't stack up - Michael West
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; hi mib_swisnf
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08:16 TR News; Recursive-length Prefix (RLP)/Simple Serialize (SSZ) https://matt-rickard.com/rlp-and-ssz-encodings Source: Matt Rickard | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/rlp-and-ssz-encodings
08:16 TR Bot; Recursive-length Prefix (RLP)/Simple Serialize (SSZ)
08:17 TR News; TensorFlow vs. PyTorch https://matt-rickard.com/tensorflow-vs-pytorch Source: Matt Rickard | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/tensorflow-vs-pytorch
08:17 TR Bot; TensorFlow vs. PyTorch
08:19 TR News; "Keating is one of the last three survivors of the Whitlam Labor government, which was dismissed by the governor-general (the Queens representative) in 1975. Another survivor, Bill Hayden, served as governor-general. No hard feelings in that lot." https://michaelwest.com.au/where-are-our-invitations-fume-faithful-servants-of-the-crown/
08:19 TR Bot; Where are our invitations, fume faithful servants of the crown - Michael West
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 TR News; "The operators of Sydneys Star casino have been found unfit. Quelle surprise! Its Deidre Chambers, to quote Muriels Wedding. What a coincidence!" https://michaelwest.com.au/casino-royal-stuff-at-star-casino/
08:20 TR Bot; Casino royal stuff-up - if the bad guys are running the show, let's make the bad guys legit
08:21 TR News; When cleaning breaks things (looks over functionality) https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/13/quickpost-exploding-multimeter/
08:21 TR Bot; Quickpost: Exploding Multimeter | Didier Stevens
08:25 TR News; "This powerbank is quite old, it might have become so inefficient over the years. Google searches tell me that you should get at least 85% efficiency." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/14/quickpost-an-inefficient-powerbank/
08:25 TR Bot; Quickpost: An Inefficient Powerbank | Didier Stevens
08:26 TR News; Escaping strings faster with AVX-512 https://lemire.me/blog/2022/09/14/escaping-strings-faster-with-avx-512/
08:26 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/09/14/escaping-strings-faster-with-avx-512/ )
08:27 TR News; Student beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016517652200283X
08:27 TR Bot; beauty and grades under in-person and remote teaching - ScienceDirect
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08:44 TR News; "What's wrong with it? It's nauseated goat!" https://blog.plover.com/2022/09/12#zeppelin-wappen
08:44 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Coat of arms of Zeppelin-Wappen
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08:49 TR News; Multitasking, Desktop PalmOS? Yes. It's real. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/multitasking-desktop-palmos-yes-its Source: Bryan Lunduke | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lunduke.substack.com/p/multitasking-desktop-palmos-yes-its
08:49 TR Bot; Multitasking, Desktop PalmOS? Yes. It's real.
08:53 TR News; "We first wrote about Luxonis DepthAI module for Raspberry Pi based on the Intel Myriad X AI accelerator in 2019" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/18/luxonis-oak-d-series-2-usb-and-poe-cameras-integrate-3d-depth-and-ai-for-robotics-applications/
08:53 TR Bot; Luxonis OAK-D series 2 USB and PoE cameras integrate 3D depth and AI for robotics applications - CNX Software
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08:54 TR News; "Maybe youre sleeping poorly and want to get up in the middle of the night to read in the living room. Instead of shouting at Google or Siri to turn on the lamp, youd rather quietly click a button." Listening devices are NOT substitutes https://staceyoniot.com/what-we-can-learn-about-buttons-from-the-hue-tap-dial-switch/
08:54 TR Bot; What we can learn about buttons from the Hue Tap Dial switch - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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08:55 TR News; Mass surveillance devices with you as their operator and feet. Informant for Pentagon. https://staceyoniot.com/why-smart-glasses-are-on-the-cusp-of-being-a-gamechanger/
08:55 TR Bot; Why smart glasses are on the cusp of being a gamechanger - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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09:07 TR News; How we monitor the temperature of our machine rooms https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/MachineRoomTempMonitoring
09:07 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/MachineRoomTempMonitoring
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09:08 TR News; How feedback helps you become a better speaker - Gregory Hammond https://gregoryhammond.ca/blog/how-feedback-helps-you-become-a-better-speaker/ Source: Gregory Hammond | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gregoryhammond.ca/blog/how-feedback-helps-you-become-a-better-speaker/
09:08 TR Bot; How feedback helps you become a better speaker - Gregory Hammond
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09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:25 TR News; Migrating my Jekyll website to Codeberg Pages https://afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/ Source: Andre Franca | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/
09:25 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/ )
09:26 TR News; Disconnecting is becoming increasingly difficult https://afhub.dev/disconnecting-is-becoming-increasingly-difficult/
09:26 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/disconnecting-is-becoming-increasingly-difficult/ )
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09:29 TR News; More surveillance. More things to push back against. https://staceyoniot.com/a-level-set-on-matter-and-its-future/
09:29 TR Bot; A level set on Matter and its future - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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09:29 TR News; C's malloc() and free() APIs are reasonable APIs for C https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/CMallocFreeDecentAPI
09:29 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/CMallocFreeDecentAPI
09:33 TR News; Clown computing https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/13/u-haul-data-breach/
09:33 TR Bot; U-Haul reports data breach, customers' info exposed - Help Net Security
09:34 TR News; When your NAS is too "smart" https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/12/cve-2022-27593/
09:34 TR Bot; Thousands of QNAP NAS devices hit by DeadBolt ransomware (CVE-2022-27593) - Help Net Security
09:35 TR News; "This is the eight time this year that Apple fixes a zero-day vulnerability in the operating systems powering their Macs and iPhones." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/13/cve-2022-32917/
09:35 TR Bot; Apple fixes actively exploited zero-day in macOS, iOS (CVE-2022-32917) - Help Net Security
09:37 TR News; This is primarily a Microsoft Windows problem https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/18/week-in-review-uber-hacked-qnap-nas-devices-under-attack-5-kali-linux-books-to-read-this-year/
09:37 TR Bot; Week in review: Uber hacked, QNAP NAS devices under attack, 5 Kali Linux books to read this year - Help Net Security
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09:38 TR News; "Lets start with a summary of functionality, and then enumerate some simple techniques to detect and evade userland rootkits" https://gru.gq/2022/09/17/userland-rootkits-are-lame/ | Source: TheGrugq
09:38 TR Bot; Userland Rootkits are Lame
09:39 TR News; "Your life is generally easier if the external machine E is not directly reachable from the Internet" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/IPTunnelsAndRouting | Source: uni Toronto
09:39 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/IPTunnelsAndRouting
09:39 TR News; "But that doesnt explain why dots at the end are useful or important" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/09/12/why-do-domain-names-end-with-a-dot-/ | Source: Julia Evans
09:39 TR Bot; Why do domain names sometimes end with a dot?
09:40 TR News; "If youre not familiar, ETags are HTTP response headers that are basically used to identify a specific version of a resource." https://austingil.com/apache-gzip-etags-edge-compute/ | Source: Austin Gil
09:40 TR Bot; Fixing Obscure Bugs: Apache, GZip, ETags, & Edge Compute
09:40 TR News; "Shortly after I started HTMHell a similar thing happened." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/button-baader/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
09:40 TR Bot; Buttons and the BaaderMeinhof phenomenon - Manuel Matuzovi
09:41 TR News; "Last week I started playing Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe. It's a game from 1994 that still receives updates, mods, music, maps..." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-17-another-oldie-but-goldie-openttd.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal
09:41 TR Bot; Another Oldie but Goldie: OpenTTD - Bjrn Wrmedal
09:44 TR News; "But what are the details? What is the background? What hardware inspired the development of that MS-DOS precursor" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/quick-and-dirty-the-story-of-86-dos | Source: Bryan Lunduke
09:44 TR Bot; Quick and Dirty: The story of 86-DOS & MS-DOS
09:45 TR News; "I really wanted the name of this article does not sound dramatically but I was not able to invent any other title" https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/09/14/freebsd-cope-with-wifi-fuckup/ | Source: Vermaden
09:45 TR Bot; FreeBSD Cope with WiFi Fuckup |
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09:46 TR News; "Were pleased to announce that as of today Arduino IDE 2.0 has moved to stable and is available for download." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/14/its-here-please-welcome-arduino-ide-2-0/ | Source: Arduino
09:46 TR Bot; Its here: please welcome Arduino IDE 2.0 | Arduino Blog
09:46 TR News; "the concept of smart storage" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/transform-the-way-you-organize-your-home-with-arduino/ | Source: Arduino
09:46 TR Bot; Transform the way you organize your home with Arduino | Arduino Blog Smart storage
09:46 TR News; "a CLOWN-centric automation to open the garage." https://staceyoniot.com/adding-smarts-to-a-garage-door-isnt-always-ideal/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
09:46 TR Bot; Adding smarts to a garage door isn't always ideal - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
09:47 TR News; "As the name implies, this is a xylophone that plays itself" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/15/auto-xylophone-features-hand-wound-solenoids/ | Source: Arduino
09:47 TR Bot; Auto Xylophone features hand-wound solenoids | Arduino Blog
09:48 TR News; "The question at the time was whether the 7600 actually had ROM in it" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/09/confirmed-mos-76007601-pong-chip-is.html | Source: Old VCR
09:48 TR Bot; Old Vintage Computing Research: Confirmed! the MOS 7600/7601 Pong chip is a true microcontroller
09:49 TR News; "Kids are cruel, we all know that, and the smallest thing can hold a lot of weight with them." https://kevquirk.com/why-dont-we-have-a-smartphone-for-teenagers/ | Source: Kev Quirk
09:49 TR Bot; Why Don't We Have a Smartphone for Teenagers? - Kev Quirk
09:51 TR News; "What would be some interesting or useful verbs to add to HTTP's vocabulary?" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/some-new-http-verbs/ | Source: Terence Eden
09:51 TR Bot; Some new HTTP verbs Terence Edens Blog
09:52 TR News; "The short list is that I (still) use Foxy Gestures, uBlock Origin, uMatrix (which is still not quite dead), Cookie AutoDelete" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/Firefox104AddonsUnchanged | Source: uni Toronto
09:52 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/Firefox104AddonsUnchanged
09:54 TR News; "Experts from different parts of the country, including Manoj Kumar Diwakar from Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi" https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/patiala/workshop-on-open-source-software-begins-432437 | Source: The Tribune IN
09:54 TR Bot; Workshop on open source software begins at Punjabi University : The Tribune India
09:54 TR News; "We are excited to announce our team will be traveling to Amsterdam for The Things Conference on September 22nd-23rd" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/16/the-things-conference-2022-catch-up-with-us-and-all-things-lorawan/ | Source: Arduino
09:54 TR Bot; The Things Conference 2022: catch up with us and all things LoRaWAN | Arduino Blog
09:55 TR News; "we often see the odd company or organization trying to forward an unorthodox definition of the open source." https://drewdevault.com/2022/09/16/Open-source-matters.html | Source: Drew DeVault
09:55 TR Bot; The phrase "open source" (still) matters
09:56 TR News; "The third use is what some people proposed as the solution to how malloc() and free() affect C APIs in the case of gethostbyname()" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/CFreeGivesReturnFreedom | Source: uni Toronto
09:56 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/CFreeGivesReturnFreedom
09:57 TR News; "This left us with one clear path: trying to patch over the `ring` FFI code with pure Rust versions." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6521 | Source: Bunnie Huang
09:57 TR Bot; Fully Oxidizing `ring`: Creating a Pure Rust TLS Stack Based on `rustls` + `ring` bunnie's blog
09:58 TR News; "Scala CLI, which is newer, does more, and can embed Ammonite;" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/13/scripting-with-scala/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
09:58 TR Bot; Scripting with Scala - Alexandru Nedelcu
09:58 TR News; "he Tornado.cash team saved its users funds by exploiting the vulnerability to drain the funds from the mixer" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/09/15/it-pays-to-be-circomspect/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
09:58 TR Bot; It pays to be Circomspect | Trail of Bits Blog
09:58 TR News; "This metaphor for building software as a form of translation really strikes a cord with me." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/building-software-as-translation/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
09:58 TR Bot; Building Software Together as a Type of Translation - Jim Nielsens Blog
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10:05 TR News; "Now, this of course has no where near the functionality build into the h-m-m tool by Nader K. Rad" https://unixsheikh.com/tutorials/poor-mans-mind-mapping-tool-with-just-the-terminal.html | Source: Unix Sheikh
10:05 TR Bot; Poor mans mind mapping tool with just the terminal
10:05 TR News; "Ive been using Zsh on-and-off for a very long time (15+ years), but I still occasionally learn something new about it." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/15/reload-zsh-configuration/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
10:05 TR Bot; Reload Zsh Configuration - (think)
10:06 TR News; "Basically, depending on its argument take does one of 3 things: [...]" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/16/oh-my-zsh-fun-with-take/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
10:06 TR Bot; Oh My Zsh: Fun with Take - (think)
10:06 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/irc-log-170922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/irc-log-170922/
10:06 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 17, 2022 | Techrights
10:07 TR News; "Anything that is in the world when youre born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/have-i-reached-the-douglas-adams-inflection-point-or-is-modern-tech-just-a-bit-rubbish/ | Source: Terence Eden
10:07 TR Bot; Have I reached the Douglas Adams Inflection point (or is modern tech just a bit rubbish)? Terence Edens Blog
10:07 TR News; "This sounds pretty abstract, so let us start with a concrete example, the superlens." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-new-meta-materials-for-superlenses.html | Source: Sabine Hossenfelder
10:07 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The New Meta-Materials for Superlenses and Invisibility Cloaks
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10:08 TR News; "The Schoko Computer is a general-purpose computer featuring the Lattice ECP5 FPGA which can be configured as a RISC-V SoC capable of running Linux." https://linuxgizmos.com/schoko-computer-equipped-with-lattice-fpga-and-runs-on-linux/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:08 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/schoko-computer-equipped-with-lattice-fpga-and-runs-on-linux/ )
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10:10 TR News; "Need some more Total War in your gaming library? Humble has a reasonably good selection available in the Total War Classics Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/humble-has-a-whole-lot-of-total-war-classics-in-this-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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10:10 TR Bot; has a whole lot of Total War Classics in this bundle | GamingOnLinux
10:10 techuser; iirc Humble Bundle used to be better
10:11 TR News; Traveling? Drinking? Exercising? If you do, be VERY careful what you share online OSINT tools! https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/traveling-drinking-exercising-if-you-do,:5
10:11 TR Bot; Traveling? Drinking? Exercising? If you do, be VERY careful what you share online OSINT tools!
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: yes
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; they betrayed gnu/linux
10:12 TR News; About Us - We are OSINTCurio.us https://osintcurio.us/aboutus/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//osintcurio.us/aboutus/
10:12 TR Bot; Us We are OSINTCurio.us
10:12 techuser; I don't remember if they had anything about DRM-Free
10:12 techuser; but even if they did, it was already fucked up in Humble Introversion Bundle then
10:13 techuser; and at later point some Steam-only bundle appeared
10:14 TR News; windows tco https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/uber-has-been-hacked:d
10:14 TR Bot; Uber Has Been Hacked
10:14 TR News; iophk: an approach to countering DRM https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/16/0331241#1272114
10:14 TR Bot; HP Continues to Pay for Abruptly Blocking Third-Party Ink from its Printers - SoylentNews
10:17 TR News; UEFI http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170922.html#tSep%2017%2001:34:55
10:17 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 17, 2022
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 TR News; BillPR takes money from the world's biggest puller, Bill Gates, while moaning about others https://text.npr.org/1121983842 | Source: BillPR
10:20 TR Bot; As farmers split from the GOP on climate change, they're getting billions to fight it
10:21 TR News; "A longer period of exposure to blue light was linked to the early onset of puberty in female rats" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22214-excessive-smartphone-use-linked-to-earlier-puberty-onset.html | Source: Helsinki Times
10:21 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22214-excessive-smartphone-use-linked-to-earlier-puberty-onset.html )
10:21 TR News; "Overcoming big pharmas profit motive has been achieved before, however" https://theconversation.com/the-big-barriers-to-global-vaccination-patent-rights-national-self-interest-and-the-wealth-gap-153443 | Source: The Conversation
10:21 TR Bot; The big barriers to global vaccination: patent rights, national self-interest and the wealth gap
10:22 TR News; "the technical interview parables have been a huge influence on me." https://xeiaso.net/blog/sleeping-the-technical-interview | Source: Xe's Blog
10:22 TR Bot; Sleeping Through the Technical Interview - Xe
10:23 TR News; "The spectrum of online discourse: one hand, humanities arent science enough to be worthwhile." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-the-benefits-of-humanities-in-software/ | Source: Buttondown
10:23 TR Bot; On the benefits of humanities in software engineering Buttondown
10:23 TR News; "I was planning on writing in detail my thoughts on the Apple event, and the products that were announced." https://chrishannah.me/thoughts-on-the-apple-event/ | Source: Chris Hannah
10:23 TR Bot; Thoughts on the Apple Event
10:23 TR News; "Now, researchers seem to have cracked the code. By reverse-engineering the communications between a Tesla Model Y and its credit card key" https://jalopnik.com/teslas-hackers-have-found-another-unauthorized-access-v-1849535920 | Source: GO Media
10:23 TR Bot; Teslas Hackers Have Found Another Unauthorized Access Vulnerability
10:25 TR News; VPNs https://invisv.com/articles/relay.html |
10:25 TR Bot; Why VPNs are Wrong and MPRs are Right
10:25 TR News; "I promised a travelogue, and here we go." https://computer.rip/2022-09-11-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-1.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
10:25 TR Bot; Computers Are Bad
10:26 TR News; "After our time milling around the Mercury cafeteria, it was back aboard the coach to enter the test site proper." https://computer.rip/2022-09-13-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-2.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
10:26 TR Bot; Computers Are Bad
10:26 TR News; "I said up front that the NNSS remains in use for several different purposes, although the level of activity today is not nearly as high as it once was." https://computer.rip/2022-09-15-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-3.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
10:26 TR Bot; Computers Are Bad
10:28 TR News; Confidentiality lost https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/you-cant-make-secure-payments-in-the-metaverse/ | Source: Terence Eden
10:28 TR Bot; You cant make secure payments in the Metaverse Terence Edens Blog
10:30 TR News; "He plays the guardian of public morals and apparently also finds it funny to humiliate or expose girls because of their clothes or appearance." https://medforth.biz/austria-turkish-youtube-guardian-of-public-morals-causes-a-stir-in-vienna/ | Source: Medforth
10:30 TR Bot; Austria: Turkish YouTube guardian of public morals causes a stir in Vienna Allah's Willing Executioners
10:33 TR News; [Old] "Great Lakes waters are composed of numerous aquifers (groundwater) that have filled with water over the centuries, waters that flow in the tributaries of the Great Lakes" https://www.michigan.gov/egle/about/organization/water-resources/submerged-lands/levels-background | Source: The State of Michigan
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10:33 TR Bot; Background Information on Lake Levels in the Great Lakes
10:33 TR News; [Old] "In the drought-stricken West, some people are turning toward the Great Lakes and asking, what if we could bring some of that water out here?" https://www.wmuk.org/wmuk-news/2022-01-11/why-the-water-in-the-great-lakes-should-not-be-for-sale-according-to-one-michigan-author |
10:33 TR Bot; Why the water in the Great Lakes should not be "for sale", according to one Michigan author
10:33 TR News; "Nestls extraction and sale of Michigan groundwater have been consistently challenged by water conservation advocates." https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Michigans-groundwater-and-the-public-trust-doctrine?ArticleID=4451 |
10:33 TR Bot; Michigans groundwater and the public trust doctrine
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10:34 TR News; "As the spyware inquiry committee prepares for its fact-finding mission to Poland 1921 September, MEPs condemn the Polish authorities lack of cooperation with their visit." https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220915IPR40601/statement-of-pega-coordinators-on-polish-authorities-refusal-to-cooperate | Source: European Parliament
10:35 TR Bot; Statement of PEGA Coordinators on Polish authorities refusal to cooperate | News | European Parliament
10:35 TR News; "It doesn't rely on untrustworthy fickle humans that youve paid to tell you what you want to hear." https://gru.gq/2022/09/17/quantified-failure/ | Source: TheGrugq
10:35 TR Bot; Quantified Failure
10:35 TR News; [Old] "For context, Windows 11 was announced in June 2021 and officially released a few months later in October. But a full rollout to all compatible devices took many months" https://www.techadvisor.com/article/745965/will-there-be-a-windows-12.html |
10:35 TR Bot; Windows 12: Everything we know so far | Tech Advisor
10:37 TR News; "I am going to show you how I fixed no bootable device found error after installing Ubuntu in Acer laptops." https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/ | Source: Its FOSS
10:37 TR Bot; [Fixed] "No Bootable Device" Error After Installing Ubuntu
10:38 TR News; "undermining the Islamic religion" https://www.africanews.com/2022/09/14/morocco-jail-upheld-on-appeal-for-blogger-accused-of-undermining-islam-lawyer/ | Source: Africa News
10:38 TR Bot; jail upheld on appeal for blogger accused of "undermining Islam" - lawyer | Africanews
10:38 TR News; "electronically attacking religion" https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/moroccan-blogger-sentenced-jail-over-attacking-islam | Source: TheNewArab
10:38 TR Bot; Moroccan blogger sentenced to jail over 'attacking Islam'
10:38 TR News; "In videos of the protests posted on social media, police officers can be seen dispersing the demonstrators" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-death-sentence-protests-security-prevents/32031934.html | Source: RFERL
10:38 TR Bot; Iranian Security Forces Prevent Relatives From Protesting Death Sentences
10:38 TR News; "In a follow-up video, Jaelyn said she met up with the woman who fired her to get a written explanation to send to a lawyer" https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/nurse-on-onlyfans-fired-due-to-coworkers-watching-her-videos-at-work/ | Source: NYPost
10:38 TR Bot; Nurse on OnlyFans fired due to co-workers watching her videos at work
10:41 TR News; "CCs deep engagement with the SDGs comes from two of our fundamental beliefs: First, that the 17 SDGs identify the worlds biggest challenges" https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/17/cc-at-un-globalgoalsweek-2022/ | Source: Creative Commons
10:41 TR Bot; CC at UN #GlobalGoalsWeek 2022 - Creative Commons
10:52 TR News; Disinformation https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-disinformation-campaigns-are-imperiling-access-to-trans-health-care/ | Source: TruthOut
10:52 TR Bot; Right-Wing Disinformation Campaigns Are Imperiling Access to Trans Health Care
10:53 TR News; Greenwashing https://truthout.org/articles/oil-companies-claim-theyre-going-green-but-their-investments-show-otherwise/ | Source: TruthOut
10:53 TR Bot; Oil Companies Claim They're Going Green But Their Investments Show Otherwise
10:53 TR News; "A lot of people had a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I. This was a home computer built into a keyboard that needed an external monitor or TV set." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/trs-80-model-ii-lives-again/ | Source: Hackaday
10:53 TR Bot; Model II Lives Again | Hackaday
10:53 TR News; Internet Of Animals https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/tiny-gps-logger-for-the-internet-of-animals/ | Source: Hackaday
10:53 TR Bot; GPS Logger For The Internet Of Animals | Hackaday
10:54 TR News; Defending whistleblowers https://thedissenter.org/house-of-representatives-passes-whistleblower-protection-bill-access-to-jury-trials/ | Source: The Dissenter
10:54 TR Bot; House Passes Bill Granting Whistleblowers Court Access
10:54 TR News; ESP32 https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/diy-haptic-enabled-vr-gun-hits-all-the-targets/ | Source: Hackaday
10:54 TR Bot; Haptic-Enabled VR Gun Hits All The Targets | Hackaday
10:57 TR News; Gulag https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/17/4-billion-eu-antitrust-fine-beats-google/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:57 TR Bot; a Major Reversal of Fortunes Google Gets Slapped Down Hard By Europes Top Regulatory Court scheerpost.com
10:58 TR News; Moscow Times https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/17/moscow-times-journalist-detained-in-belgorod-on-suspicion-of-spying-for-ukraine | Source: Meduza
10:58 TR Bot; NO TITLE
10:58 TR News; "foreign agent" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/17/maksim-galkin-declared-a-foreign-agent | Source: Meduza
10:58 TR Bot; NO TITLE
10:59 TR News; Whistleblowers https://shadowproof.com/2022/09/17/house-pass-bill-grants-whistleblowers-access-jury-trials/ | Source: Shadowproof
10:59 TR Bot; House Passes Bill Granting Whistleblowers Access To Jury Trials
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.00
11:00 TR News; "The piracy liability trial between several major record labels and Internet provider Grande is scheduled to start this fall." https://torrentfreak.com/isp-hopes-to-defeat-record-labels-piracy-liability-claims-at-trial-220917/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:00 TR Bot; Hopes to Defeat Record Labels' Piracy Liability Claims at Trial * TorrentFreak
11:00 TR News; "3D printing bearings with an FDM printer can be an iffy endeavor" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/3d-printable-bearings-that-actually-work-no-cad-tweaking-required/ | Source: Hackaday
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11:00 TR Bot; Printable Bearings That Actually Work, No CAD Tweaking Required | Hackaday
11:00 TR News; "3D printers are good for a lot of things, but making parts for power transmission doesnt seem to be one of them." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/3d-printed-strain-wave-gearbox-turns-up-the-torque/ | Source: Hackaday
11:00 TR Bot; Printed Strain-Wave Gearbox Turns Up The Torque | Hackaday
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11:08 TR News; "When the power goes out, it goes without saying that all the lights and sockets in a house stop working." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/the-cpsc-says-plug-to-socket-not-plug-to-plug-please/ | Source: Hackaday
11:08 TR Bot; CPSC Says Plug To Socket, Not Plug To Plug, Please | Hackaday
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:51 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi
11:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
11:51 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
11:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
11:51 TR News; (NEW): Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics Bundle http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.gmi
11:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics Bundle
11:51 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
11:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
11:52 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_leftovers.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
11:52 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware and Gadgets With GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Open_Hardware_and_Gadgets_With_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Open_Hardware_and_Gadgets_With_GNU_Linux.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware and Gadgets With GNU/Linux
11:52 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.gmi
11:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers
11:53 TR News; Links 18/09/2022: Adobe Collapses 17% in a Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/adobe-collapses/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/adobe-collapses/
11:53 TR Bot; Links 18/09/2022: Adobe Collapses 17% in a Day | Techrights
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12:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Best economy ever!
12:06 DaemonFC; Facebook down two-thirds.
12:06 DaemonFC; Ad companies down 80%.
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; 90% already?
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; it was almost $400
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; then 180 or 160 when I checked
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; is it less than $100 now?
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like there "might" be "recession"
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; or "market correction" for longstanding bubble
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; tesla has a new hole ripped\
12:09 DaemonFC; The investment news is now panicking that the stock market could be down another 26% by the time the inflation is stamped out.
12:10 DaemonFC; Of course that's not true.It'll be much worse.
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
12:10 schestowitz[TR]; <schestowitz-TR> WHO officials seem to have become like Wall STreet 'analysts'
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; now WHO says covid end "in sight"
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; like, wait
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; eradicating it?
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; no
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; they mean giving up on the fight
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; too many lies abound
12:11 DaemonFC; We're stuck with it. It's the Cold/Flu/COVID season now.
12:12 DaemonFC; And people who are allegedly intelligent, like Jamie Zawinski and Richard Stallman, act as though if a few more people wore their masks, COVID would go away forever.
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; spoke to my dad about it for an hur today
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; my mom got infected 3 times
12:12 DaemonFC; The masks would maybe slow it down a little bit.
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; no, you are wrong
12:12 DaemonFC; But that's all.
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; Jamie Zawinski and Richard Stallman caution about spreading it
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; because we can slow down the spread
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; and it buys us tiome
12:13 DaemonFC; Time for what?
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; to better understand the issue and develop solutions
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; and medical treatments
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; and TEST them
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; 3 eyars of covid-19 next month
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; 3 years is not a lot
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; in understanding diseases
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; and making mitigation for them
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; my dad just got the flu shot
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; those are effective
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; flu might be no worse then covid-19
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; the difference is,
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; we already gave tens of billions of flu shots
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; and there was a lot of time to study them
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; *worse than
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; so with old people gettingh flu shots 1 or 2 times per year
12:14 DaemonFC; I would say flu is not necessarily worse.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; the death rates are not in in 5
12:14 DaemonFC; Well, now they want a new mRNA flu shot.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; *1 in 5
12:15 DaemonFC; More patents, not necessarily more effective.
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, patents
12:15 DaemonFC; Watch flu shots go the way of insulin.
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; I said the same
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; capitalism wants to bury some pensioners anyway
12:15 DaemonFC; They go from $20 to "nobody makes that one anymore. The new one is $300.".
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; take away their pension capital
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; for spculation
12:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Medicare covers flu shots 100% like it covers most vaccines. Mom won't take them.
12:16 DaemonFC; She ends up sick with something multiple times a year.
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; because she is ignorant
12:16 DaemonFC; I would suggest not going near her unless you have your shots.
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; and hangs out with other religious ignoramus
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; a nurse who rejects flu shots
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; news at midnight
12:17 DaemonFC; It's not uncommon, actually.
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; in the us
12:17 DaemonFC; It's just that most don't work for the Catholic Church and their employer can fire them if they refuse.
12:18 DaemonFC; The Catholics pay extra to put Grandma in a religious home, where all the nurses are skipping their vaccines and bringing God knows what into work and between patient rooms with them.
12:18 DaemonFC; "Here's twice as much money. Please kill mom 7 years too soon. Thanks!"
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; she died for the daughter's sins
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 TR News; GStreamer gets the Microsoft infection, too https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/cerbero/-/merge_requests/915
12:20 TR Bot; Add support for building Cargo-C recipes for native builds (!915) Merge requests GStreamer / cerbero GitLab
12:22 TR News; SteamDeck - Automount External drives - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=j5sci66hs0k | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/j5sci66hs0k
12:22 TR Bot; SteamDeck - Automount External drives - Invidious
12:23 TR News; "This project is a continuation of Ingo Weinholds original Ham project, which paused development in 2013. Over the course of the GSoC period, I completed the evaluation portion of Ham, which converts a Jam build system into a series of commands to run." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/dominicm/2022-09-10_gsoc_2022_ham_final_report/
12:23 TR Bot; [GSoC 2022] Ham: Final Report | Haiku Project
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12:24 TR News; GSoC 2022 Final Report: Improving the Calendar Application https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/harshitsharma/2022-09-12_gsoc_2022_final_report_improving_the_calendar_application/
12:24 TR Bot; GSoC 2022 Final Report: Improving the Calendar Application | Haiku Project
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12:26 TR News; "GraphQL decouples the frontend team's data needs from the teams managing the API and data layers." https://matt-rickard.com/graphql-trades-complexity
12:26 TR Bot; GraphQL Trades Complexity
12:28 TR News; "My fellow Americans, I regret to inform you that our beloved health insurance industry has done a major fuckery. I know this is hard to believe, given the probity and honor we associate with our fine insurance companies, but the evidence is incontrovertible." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#malicious-compliance
12:28 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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12:29 TR News; "In our next book, Chokepoint Capitalism, Rebecca Giblin and I set out to shatter the false binary that creative workers can only choose between rooting for Big Tech or Big Content, as if one flavor of monopolist will be better for us than the other." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/12/streaming-doesnt-pay/#stunt-publishing
12:29 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 12 Sep 2022 Spotify is a ripoff, a Spotify exclusive Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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13:09 TR News; No evidence that depression is caused by low serotonin levels, finds comprehensive review | UCL News - UCL University College London https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review
13:09 TR Bot; No evidence that depression is caused by low serotonin levels, finds comprehensive review | UCL News - UCL University College London
13:10 TR News; "They found that nearly 400 officers 400 rushed to the school, but it took them more than an hour to confront the gunman." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/19/uvalde_elementary_shooting_texas_abbott_funerals
13:10 TR Bot; Nearly 400 Officers Raced to Uvalde School Shooting. Why Did It Take 77 Minutes to Confront Gunman? | Democracy Now!
13:12 TR News; "Mukunda Rao makes it clear in his book that contrary to what is widely believed, Indias spiritual history is not all about Brahmanical beliefs, Sanskrit literature, the Upanishads, and the Gita, or even the caste system." https://thewire.in/books/book-review-india-spiritual-masters-mukunda-rao
13:12 TR Bot; Maverick, Free and Believers in Hindu-Muslim Unity: How India's Spiritual Masters Fought Orthodoxy
13:12 TR News; One Third of Developing Country Women Become Teen Mothers | News | teleSUR English https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/One-Third-of-Developing-Country-Women-Become-Teen-Mothers-20220705-0002.html Source: teleSUR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.telesurenglish.net/news/One-Third-of-Developing-Country-Women-Become-Teen-Mothers-20220705-0002.html
13:12 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:22 TR News; Adding review support to Breakfast and Coffee | James' Coffee Blog https://jamesg.blog/2022/09/11/review-breakfast-and-coffee/ Source: James G | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jamesg.blog/2022/09/11/review-breakfast-and-coffee/
13:22 TR Bot; Adding review support to Breakfast and Coffee | James' Coffee Blog
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13:24 TR News; "It's what I love about the story of the web. Individuals across the globe following their passions, finding each other in those passions, and fostering the birth of something new from their disparate stories all enabled by great software whose output is something we construct together." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/building-together/
13:24 TR Bot; Building Together - Jim Nielsens Blog
13:25 TR News; "Design is about purpose and intent. To answer, Is this good design? We must also answer: good for who?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/good-design/
13:25 TR Bot; Good Design - Jim Nielsens Blog
13:26 TR News; The Innovator's Paradox https://matt-rickard.com/the-innovators-paradox
13:26 TR Bot; The Innovator's Paradox
13:27 TR News; [Old] Social Media Is Warping Democracy - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/social-media-democracy/600763/ Source: The Atlantic | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/social-media-democracy/600763/
13:27 TR Bot; Social Media Is Warping Democracy - The Atlantic
13:28 TR News; Against federal guidance, states plan to expand highways | Grist https://grist.org/transportation/against-federal-guidance-states-plan-to-expand-highways/ Source: Grist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//grist.org/transportation/against-federal-guidance-states-plan-to-expand-highways/
13:28 TR Bot; Against federal guidance, states plan to expand highways | Grist
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14:05 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22081711
14:05 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/r9gG6bb.jpg created on 2022-08-17 02:20:31.667493
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14:19 TR News; "I flirted with IPFS off and on since about 2015, and as of this summer, I've been using it heavily" gemini://the-brannons.com/tech-and-conscience/
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; "About 15 years ago, I dabbled with Freenet. I stopped pretty quickly, because with the way that Freenet works, you have no control over what is hosted or exchanged using your resources. The hard drive space and network connectivity dedicated to Freenet may well be used for storing or transmission of kiddy porn without one's knowledge." gemini://the-brannons.com/tech-and-conscience/
14:24 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
14:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
14:24 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
14:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
14:24 TR News; (NEW): 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 41.0 BETA released. http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/4MLinux_Releases_4MLinux_41_0_BETA_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/4MLinux_Releases_4MLinux_41_0_BETA_released.gmi
14:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 41.0 BETA released.
14:26 TR News; Surveillance with positive slant https://finnstats.com/index.php/2022/09/17/the-role-of-data-science-in-preventing-fraud/
14:26 TR Bot; Role of Data Science in Preventing Fraud finnstats
14:31 TR News; Saturn Elephant - The 'Reorient' transformation https://laustep.github.io/stlahblog/posts/ReorientTransformation.html Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//laustep.github.io/stlahblog/posts/ReorientTransformation.html
14:31 TR Bot; Saturn Elephant - The 'Reorient' transformation
14:33 TR News; "R is primarily designed for statistical computing and graphics, and thats where Ive spent most of my time in R. This includes developing an R package, exSTRa, for my PhD. R isnt an ideal language for video games, without native support for reactive programming. Though where theres computing, there are games." https://tankard.id/post/review-of-games-written-in-r/
14:33 TR Bot; A Review of Games Written in R on CRAN | Dr. Rick Tankard
14:34 TR News; R Markdown Lesser-Known Tips - Tricks #4: Looks Better, Works Better - RStudio https://www.rstudio.com/blog/r-markdown-tips-tricks-4-looks-better-works-better/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rstudio.com/blog/r-markdown-tips-tricks-4-looks-better-works-better/
14:34 TR Bot; Markdown Lesser-Known Tips & Tricks #4: Looks Better, Works Better - RStudio
14:35 TR News; "Have you made a split-plot field experiment? Have you repeated such an experiment in two (or more) years/locations? Have you run into troubles, because the reviewer told you that your ANOVA model was invalid?" https://www.statforbiology.com/2022/stat_lmm_2-wayssplitrepeated/
14:35 TR Bot; The broken bridge between biologists and statisticians | Multi-environment split-plot experiments
14:37 TR News; Survival of the Richest https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn "The super-rich attendees at the conference were obsessed with "The Event" civil unrest, environmental collapse, some other end-of-the-world scenario"
14:37 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 13 Sep 2022 Survival of the Richest Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
14:38 TR News; "Four years later, Rushkoff has turned his experience with the wealthy, the technology-addled, and the selfish-solutionist wing of Silicon Valley into a book called Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires. It's great." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn
14:39 TR News; "An Air Atlanta Icelandic Boeing 747-400F, operated by Magma Aviation, shed an engine part during its climb out of Liege Airport earlier this week. The 747 was heading to Malta when the engine cowling fell from the jet, crashing down into the property of a local resident." https://simpleflying.com/parts-of-air-atlanta-icelandic-boeing-747-fall-on-belgian-house/
14:39 TR Bot; Parts Of Air Atlanta Icelandic Boeing 747 Fall On Belgian House
14:40 TR News; bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe" |nitter.it https://nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105 | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105
14:40 TR Bot; poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe"|nitter.it
14:45 immibis; mixling: what is gender?
14:52 mixling; immibis: by definition, not my opinion, a "social construct"
14:52 TR News; "Bombardier said it will end production of Learjet aircraft later this year, allowing it to focus on its more profitable Challenger and Global aircraft families." https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/bombardier-announces-the-elimination-of-1-600-positions-and-end-of-the-learjet-1.5304555
14:52 TR Bot; Bombardier to cut 1,600 jobs in move to reduce costs and consolidate work | CTV News
14:53 TR News; Amend 3.6 Released https://jcs.org/2022/09/12/amend
14:53 TR Bot; Amend 3.6 Released - joshua stein
14:56 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2208175
14:56 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fg82vktf2ih91.jpg created on 2022-08-17 01:08:22.651353
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: a way to derail irc channels
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 143.20
14:59 TR News; "Sr. Engineer at a Drunk state" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/09/software-engineering-realities/
14:59 TR Bot; 101 software engineering realities you must be aware of (especially as a junior engineer)
15:01 mixling; immibis: why do you ask?
15:02 TR News; "I've also struggled with depression and anxiety, had three different therapists, and tried multiple different anxiety and depression medications. And I've adopted three cats, met and married my wife, and had two kids with her." https://ntietz.com/tech-blog/going-to-recurse-center/
15:02 TR Bot; I'm taking a sabbatical and attending Recurse Center! | nicholas@web
15:03 TR News; Is this the madness that comes with monarchy - or is it the disdain thats over the top? - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/abc-media-monarchy-reporting/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/abc-media-monarchy-reporting/
15:03 TR Bot; Is this the madness that comes with monarchy - or is it the disdain that's over the top? - Michael West
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15:13 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/18/kyrgyzstan-reports-36-people-killed-in-clashes-with-tajikistan-news "Kyrgyzstan reports 36 people killed in clashes with Tajikistan"
15:13 TR Bot; .
15:14 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/18/famous-russian-singer-alla-pugacheva-asks-to-include-her-on-foreign-agent-list-alongside-her-husband-tv-presenter-maxim-galkin-news "Famous Russian singer Alla Pugacheva asks to include her on foreign agent list alongside her husband, TV presenter Maxim Galkin"
15:14 TR Bot; .
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:40 XRevan86; https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/17/police-fire-tear-gas-at-rally-after-iranian-womans-funeral
15:40 TR Bot; Protests at funeral of Iranian woman who died in police custody | Women News | Al Jazeera
15:42 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Install Oracle VirtualBox in Fedora Linux [Tutorial] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Fedora_Linux_Tutorial.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Fedora_Linux_Tutorial.gmi
15:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Install Oracle VirtualBox in Fedora Linux [Tutorial]
15:44 TR News; Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/
15:44 TR Bot; Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights
15:45 immibis; mixling: you seem to be about as confused as DaemonFC
15:45 TR News; AZLOSUE Wordo: MAIMS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-18.gmi
15:47 mixling; immibis: why? confused how?
15:47 immibis; mixling: same way as DaemonFC
15:48 mixling; immibis: which why?
15:48 immibis; but you got it right the second time so I may have misunderstood the situation
15:48 immibis; <mixling> and yes, this flavor of "gender" equality is harmful to any society where it flourishes <mixling> i should have put "equality" into quotes too
15:50 mixling; immibis: this is a partial quote, missing exactly what i said
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: this is not even remoately on topic
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; so better to drop it and move to tech
15:58 TR News; The Linux Foundation = Fraud. Open Source On-Ramp @ OSS NA 2022... keynotes by VMware and Microsoft.
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:36 TR News; Happiness is the Highest Form of Health - Dalai Lama | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/
16:36 TR Bot; Happiness is the Highest Form of Health Dalai Lama | Techrights
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17:01 XRevan86; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=hu&tl=en&u=https://szabadeuropa.hu/a/32036752.html "Viktor Orbn gave a closed speech about EU falling apart, territorial loss of Ukraine and a Fidesz government until 2060"
17:01 TR Bot; 2060-ig tart Fidesz-kormnyzsrl is beszlt Ktcsn Orbn Viktor
17:01 XRevan86; MinceR: What the actual fsck
17:02 XRevan86; The guy keeps surprising me.
17:04 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/18/7367983/
17:04 TR Bot; Occupiers report new attack on POW camp in Olenivka, Ukrainian prisoner of war dies | Ukrainska Pravda
17:08 TR News; After Jim Zemlin Told Us We Should Respect Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/
17:08 TR Bot; After Jim Zemlin Told Us We Should Respect Microsoft | Techrights
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 TR News; My Raktajino headcanon gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220918-my-raktajino-headcanon.gmi
17:22 TR News; "Gemini proxies of a few local news sources" gemini://hoagie.space/proxy
17:24 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
17:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
17:25 TR News; [PATCH RFC v3] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO - Jason A. Donenfeld https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220916125916.652546-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/
17:25 TR Bot; [PATCH RFC v3] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO - Jason A. Donenfeld
17:26 TR News; 214: Linux Plumbers Conference, Fedora, Kdenlive Fundraiser, Linux Malware and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-214/ Source: Tux Digital
17:26 TR Bot; Linux Plumbers Conference, Fedora, Kdenlive Fundraiser, Linux Malware and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
17:27 TR News; Kdenlive 22.08.1 released - Kdenlive https://kdenlive.org/en/2022/09/kdenlive-22-08-1-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kdenlive.org/en/2022/09/kdenlive-22-08-1-released/
17:27 TR Bot; Kdenlive 22.08.1 released - Kdenlive
17:29 TR News; [PATCH mm-unstable v15 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220918080010.2920238-1-yuzhao@google.com/T/#m1a5008481fbbd0f1d5cc0355d69f36e709d08725 Source:
17:29 TR Bot; [PATCH mm-unstable v15 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework
17:31 TR News; Android dominates Africa (by far; Windows is estimated at 17% market share) http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/
17:31 TR Bot; Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights
17:32 TR News; Mr. Torvalds is turning 53 on December 28th; his health took a turn for the worse after he was blackmailed into making an unnecesssary apology and the Linux Foundation sent him to humiliating treatment (therapy) that he had been forced to take as a condition for returning to his own project http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/
17:32 TR News; Jim Zemlins wife, who does not like Linux, is connected to Microsoft and is engaging in securities fraud, is a blunder and a conflict of interest for the Linux Foundation, which also told us to "respect Microsoft"; all these people care about is money http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/
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18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:48 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Install VirtualBox Guest Additions in Fedora Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_VirtualBox_Guest_Additions_in_Fedora_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_VirtualBox_Guest_Additions_in_Fedora_Linux.gmi
19:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Install VirtualBox Guest Additions in Fedora Linux
19:55 TR News; Setting up FreshRSS on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-freshrss/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-freshrss/
19:55 TR Bot; Setting up FreshRSS on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up
20:00 TR News; InfoWorld (IDG) is propaganda site of Microsoft. Their writers are longtime Microsoft operative. They even have a WHOLE section called "ENTERPRISE MICROSOFT". This isn't media, it is marketing spam.
20:01 TR News; Gemini's founder: "I am kind of burned out on writing more or less exclusively about my "big picture" thoughts on ideas at the intersection of computing technology and environmental sustainability." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/solderpunk/gemlog/franken-peugeot-updates.gmi
20:04 TR News; "And we have [Collaborative Directory of Geminispace] announced. What are the most modern achievements in the internet directories business? It seems that there aren't many of them, and we are still in the '90s." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-09-18-The-best-way-to-organize-the-catalog.gmi
20:07 TR News; "We cover events and user groups that are running in Chile. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-chile/
20:07 TR Bot; Around The World: Chile - LinuxLinks
20:14 TR News; (NEW): 10 Fun Free and Open Source First Person Shooter Games: Part 2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/10_Fun_Free_and_Open_Source_First_Person_Shooter_Games_Part_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/10_Fun_Free_and_Open_Source_First_Person_Shooter_Games_Part_2.gmi
20:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Fun Free and Open Source First Person Shooter Games: Part 2
20:15 TR News; "Bill likes his new job. We received a lot of feedback from listeners trying Linux for the first time." https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp430
20:15 TR Bot; Going Linux Shownotes
20:16 TR News; SUSE is my new distribution (new job) https://danigm.net/suse.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//danigm.net/suse.html
20:16 TR Bot; SUSE is my new distribution (new job)
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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20:21 TR News; Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/hideo-kojima-the-steam-deck-tgs-2022-podcast/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/hideo-kojima-the-steam-deck-tgs-2022-podcast/
20:21 TR Bot; Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure - Boiling Steam
20:33 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
20:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
20:33 TR News; (NEW): OSMC's September update is here with Debian 11 (Bullseye) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/OSMC_s_September_update_is_here_with_Debian_11_Bullseye.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/OSMC_s_September_update_is_here_with_Debian_11_Bullseye.gmi
20:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines OSMC's September update is here with Debian 11 (Bullseye)
20:34 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-microsoft-can-get-your-passwords-via-web-browsers-spellcheck/
20:34 TR Bot; Google, Microsoft can get your passwords via web browser's spellcheck
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; even worse
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft grabs it via EDGE
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; all of them
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; gabs
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; not CAN grab
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; grabs
20:35 mixling; or the UEFI usb stack does
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's one massive espionage ioperation
20:36 schestowitz[TR]; gulag was exposed in snowedne elaks as giving nsa access toi passwoprds in the clown
20:36 mixling; micros~1 threadx rtos (IoT clown, Azure) too got an usb protocol stack implemented
20:37 mixling; microsft claims, threadx rtos is the most widely deployed operating system globally: 4billion
20:38 TR News; Kdenlive 22.08.1 (UPDATED) 17:27 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Kdenlive_22_08_1.shtml
20:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08.1 (UPDATED)
20:38 TR News; White space, punctuation, Whitespace and Forth gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-09-18_White_space__punctuation__Whitespace_and_Forth.gmi
20:40 TR News; September 18, 2012: wedding. September 18, 2022: modest celebration with a small cake. Wedding anniversary. Back to work now...
20:43 TR News; [PATCH 0/5] Enable a few DSA 2.0 features - Fenghua Yu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220917161222.2835172-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com/ Source: Thread | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220917161222.2835172-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com/
20:43 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/5] Enable a few DSA 2.0 features - Fenghua Yu
20:44 XRevan86; https://theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/18/mahsa-amini-dozens-injured-in-iran-protests-after-death-in-custody
20:44 TR Bot; Mahsa Amini: dozens injured in Iran protests after death in custody | Iran | The Guardian
20:44 TR News; "I had asked both Conservancy and FSF members to call in to help with that discussion there was what felt like a shouting match. It was the first time I felt an in-person event was worse than an email discussion. Hopefully people will calm down" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/09/18/sourceware-infrastructure-conservancy-gnu-toolchain-at-cauldron/
20:45 TR Bot; Mark J. Wielaard Blog Archive Sourceware Infrastructure / Conservancy / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron
20:47 TR News; "We are aware that several presentations will be given at Cauldron this weekend proposing new ways to support the Sourceware project and the GNU Toolchain packages hosted there." https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html
20:47 TR Bot; Sourceware / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron
20:47 TR News; "The FSF has been a fiscal sponsor to the GNU Toolchain for several years (and continues to be), and has been grateful to have Sourceware providing development infrastructure using free software. Unfortunately, we won't have staff present at Cauldron, but we are keeping up with the development of the various proposals and talking with people involved" https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html
20:48 TR News; "We want Sourceware and the GNU packages it hosts to have stable homes and strong futures in freedom. We expect the conversations in the next few days to be open and transparent and involving the community, and look forward to discussing the best way(s) forward in the coming weeks." https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html
20:50 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: Going Linux, This Week in Linux, SteamDeck http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_This_Week_in_Linux_SteamDeck.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_This_Week_in_Linux_SteamDeck.gmi
20:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Going Linux, This Week in Linux, SteamDeck
20:50 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Hugo Roy, Sourceware, NextCloud, and More (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/09/Free_Software_Hugo_Roy_Sourceware_NextCloud_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/09/Free_Software_Hugo_Roy_Sourceware_NextCloud_and_More.gmi
20:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Hugo Roy, Sourceware, NextCloud, and More (UPDATED)
20:53 TR News; projects that primarily use email. [...]. project on github" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/~mark/sourceware/sourceware.md
20:53 TR News; The attack on GNU and FSF continues. "At Red Hat we are trying to push CI testing upstream. [...] Younger generation has trouble contributing to projects that primarily use email. [...]. project on github" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/~mark/sourceware/sourceware.md
20:55 MinceR; 18 180150 < XRevan86> MinceR: What the actual fsck
20:55 MinceR; just the usual ruscist fantasies
20:55 MinceR; i thought you'd become used to it by now
20:55 XRevan86; MinceR: I mean, I am used to, but it's like if a 2017 myself would get dunk into 2022 all at once.
20:56 XRevan86; It's all about the intensity.
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21:00 XRevan86; MinceR: The guy's not just a cynical autocrat, he's a genuine Putinist.
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; "This seems like a great idea; SFC is well known for helping free software projects run more smoothly. I hope they make this happen!"
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; keith packard
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; not a fsf fan
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://lwn.net/Articles/906663/
21:03 TR Bot; seeking support from the Software Freedom Conservancy [LWN.net]
21:07 starstreak; this is supposed to be a painting of linus: https://i.imgur.com/LpdOVwx.png
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: can someone explain to me Sourceware?
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; and gcc
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; maybe even activelow will know
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; seems like they're taking control of gcc via sfc
21:14 mixling; i only saw SFC mentioned with Matthew Garret, and licensing dispute over Toybox userspace
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; same grou
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; the coup folks
21:15 mixling; arrived at toybox (instead of GPL licensed variants), because of _technical_ criteria
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; ok, I will posta drraft
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; tell me if it makes senses
21:15 mixling; as far as i am concerned, i would prefer toybox over GNU coreutils/util-linux/busybox, even when toybox was GPL
21:16 mixling; while some corporations (Google), chose toybox for political reasons: "no GPL in userspace", which is none of my concerns
21:17 mixling; similar situation with gnu-toolchain (gcc/binutils) and gnu-buildsystem (autotools/automake), i don't want to use because of quality problems GNU/SFC/FSF have
21:17 MinceR; 18 220956 < schestowitz[TR]> MinceR: can someone explain to me Sourceware?
21:17 MinceR; i don't know it
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/
21:19 TR Bot; Splinter Group SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: does it make sense?
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; my interpretation of it?
21:19 AdmFubar; which sourceware?
21:19 MinceR; \_()_/
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; SFC tries to replace FSF
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21:20 schestowitz[TR]; by sucking up to GAFAM
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; controlled oppositoopn
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; with the "f" word thrown in
21:21 mixling; won't solve any of the quality issues GNU-software has
21:21 mixling; same with linux-kernel, i am far more concerned with it's software quality, than where it's git repository is hosted
21:22 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman is a poor judge of character. He gave a Free Software Award to mjg59_for collaborating with Microsoft to lock us out of our PCs while defaming OpenBSD and Theo de Raadt because the GNU branding isn't all over the place in their FOSS operating system
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; and taking GAFAM money
21:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: There's less GAFAM money now because of the stock crash.
21:24 DaemonFC; Hopefully this cripples them badly.
21:27 DaemonFC; They played around with investor money and now they fire people
21:27 TR News; Splinter Group SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> They played around with investor money and now they fire people
21:28 mixling; another detail, SFC B. Kuhn authored various Perl6 software... fyi i decided to roll-back perl to v5.8 (year 2003)
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; wait
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; you missed a key part
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; many fo those employees were ther investors
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; they gave them a salary
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; and that was tied to the stock
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; so if the stock falls 50%
21:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: The alleged business model of DotCom Bubble 2.0 was basically the same as DotCom Bubble 1.0. It went on longer due to the Fed being more willing to play along and the ad industry sharpening their tools so they would know how to target people more efficiently.
21:28 DaemonFC; But it's still going SPLAT.
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; then the workers can lose half their savings
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; I told you
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; they bbuy back their own share
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; take bailouts
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; and fake their value using staff's money (salaries)
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's a self-feeding loop
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; Enron did not end
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; it became the norm
21:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I was telling you about the Retirement SAVERS Credit.
21:30 DaemonFC; You can lose up to 75% of your investment and not "lose", because your employer match and the IRS step up to subsidize doing it.
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; btw, rms is not the one deciding the fsf awards
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; there is a committee
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; they also gave deb icaza an award
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; and de raadt
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; and bkuhn
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; before sfc attacked rms again
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; give sfc man award
21:31 mixling; as an outsider to USA and their cartells, i see this: GPL and non-GPL corporate entities hack and slay each other with technical sabotage and legal actions taken against each other
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; 2 weeks pass, he attacks you again
21:32 starstreak; this is supposed to be RMS: https://i.imgur.com/HSdHxXE.png
21:32 schestowitz[TR]; that award needs to be abolished
21:32 mixling; and what arrives on my desk finally, is a giant mountain of chaotic clusterfuck
21:32 DaemonFC; Theo de Raadt has done actual things to improve "Linux" security.
21:32 DaemonFC; mjg59_ just stuffs it with Microsoft crap like a Thanksgiving turkey
21:33 mixling; which is software quality often, i am not willing anymore to accept for private use
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; hisa rgument with rms was not about gnu logos
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; it was about philosophy and licensing iirc
21:33 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is more of a narcissist than Theo and with less actual accomplishments to back any of it up.
21:33 mixling; didn't Theo too receive an award... ?
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; yes
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; also de icaza
21:34 DaemonFC; They would have given him one sooner.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; this whole award is a major embarassment
21:34 DaemonFC; Except politics.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; like a quarter of the awards go to enemies of the fsf
21:34 DaemonFC; I think RMS himself stepped in and delayed Theo's.
21:34 mixling; yes, theo too received an FSF award
21:34 DaemonFC; Many people who got the Free Software Award in the earlier days deserved it.
21:35 DaemonFC; Now it's just a bunch of Transexuals, mjg59_, and lawyers.
21:35 DaemonFC; Oh, and very predictive of how close to Microsoft's orbit you are.
21:35 mixling; and i see, Alan Cox too received it, and terminated with Linux Kernel develoment
21:37 DaemonFC; They dole it out to saboteurs and people who make it obvious that nobody even bordering on normality need apply.
21:37 DaemonFC; Oh, and lawyers, because lawyers write a lot of Free Software!
21:38 mixling; my argument is another one: the fact competent software developers who dedicate their entire life to free software, and see it wrecked finally by corporate slaying
21:38 mixling; this makes it worse, not any better those who deserved an award received it
21:39 DaemonFC; You have to be very careful when hiring anyone who is a member of a minority group, because if you go to fire them later for performance reasons or because they are going against the goals of your organization, they'll scream it's because of discrimination.
21:40 TR News; "This post marks the ending of my GSoC'22 journey with GNOME. I worked on the database migration and managing user model for the GNOME Health Application. Let's take a deep dive into the project." https://dev.to/amankrx/gsoc-2022-with-gnome-final-report-2hf7
21:40 TR Bot; GSoC 2022 with GNOME: Final Report - DEV Community
21:40 DaemonFC; Then they wonder why it's so much harder for them to find a job even though literally nobody cares that they're trans or something.
21:40 DaemonFC; It's hard because nobody wants the "press" about "he fired me because I was trans!".
21:41 mixling; DaemonFC: how are your tranny problems related to any of this?
21:42 DaemonFC; Well, I'm saying that people attacked Stallman for being "anti-trans" because he had to fire like one person who happened to be "trans" and it wasn't even about that.
21:42 DaemonFC; So what do they expect? Hiring managers see them and they see that and they go "We'll call you." when they otherwise maybe would have been hired.
21:42 DaemonFC; It's affirmative action in general though. This is what it does.
21:42 TR News; DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.05: New Web Browser Ladybird, Plasma for TV and More https://debugpointnews.com/weekly-roundup-22-05/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//debugpointnews.com/weekly-roundup-22-05/
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21:43 DaemonFC; It locks minorities out of job opportunities because everyone knows what happens when you have to fire like one person and they make it all about race or being trans or something.
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; being woman too
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; (btw)
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; a lot more common
21:44 DaemonFC; So hiring managers hang up a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion sign and you hardly see any black people or trans people there.
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; lawsuits over discrimination
21:44 DaemonFC; Just the minimum to say they have some.
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; you don't need to go as far as tiny niche
21:44 mixling; which is a 50% chance to hit
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; women getting hired into a workplace with many men can becomne a risk
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; but anyway, this is a bit far astray and off topic
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a tech issue
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; it happens in every sector
21:46 DaemonFC; Yeah, my car insurance agent is a black guy. GEICO has a DEI policy, but they don't care who their agents are because they're not employed.
21:46 DaemonFC; They're contractors.
21:46 DaemonFC; No risk.
21:46 schestowitz[TR]; in many sectors men are a tiny minority
21:46 *starstreak loves pandoc
21:47 TR News; AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux https://wccftech.com/amd-brings-ray-tracing-support-in-its-open-source-vulkan-graphics-drivers-for-rdna-2-gpus-in-linux/ Source: WCCF Tech
21:47 TR Bot; AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux
21:50 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/qe72kVk.mp4
21:51 starstreak; gnome 43 has a negative change :(
21:51 starstreak; https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/nautilus-43-options-840x507.jpg
21:52 starstreak; "open in console" instead of "open in terminal", i don't want to use gnome console because you can't change the font size or configure anything. i want to use gnome terminal.
21:56 XRevan86; https://blog.ablaze.one/2425/2022-09-17/
21:56 TR Bot; Floorp Browser v.10.5.0 Release Notes | ABlog
21:57 XRevan86; More weirdness in this world.
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22:07 DaemonFC; Most GNOME releases have a negative change.
22:07 DaemonFC; They don't want to support features so the code gets ripped out and they don't care how many people say they were using that.
22:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I've added Pale Moon to my Web browser collection.
22:08 DaemonFC; It seems a little bit more capable of dealing with recent Web site updates than SeaMonkey, and still supports XUL extensions.
22:09 DaemonFC; So you _can_ install a fork of ChatZilla called Ambassador. Which is where ChatZilla in SeaMonkey is getting most of its patches to stay current anyway.
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22:09 techuser; hi
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22:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/18/fedora-pushing-firmware-updates-directly-from-microsoft-which-ban-grub-bootloaders-that-they-dont-like/
22:22 TR Bot; Fedora pushing firmware updates directly from Microsoft which ban GRUB bootloaders that they dont like. | BaronHK's Rants
22:23 MinceR; 18 225128 < starstreak> gnome 43 has a negative change :(
22:23 MinceR; yes, it's gnome
22:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Disabling LVFS stops Microsoft from pushing dbx updates.
22:24 MinceR; > you can't change the font size or configure anything.
22:24 MinceR; that's the "modern" way
22:24 DaemonFC; AFAICT, there's nothing else on my computer that is getting updates through LVFS, so it seems to be a Microsoft backdoor and not much else in my case.
22:24 MinceR; if you don't like it, don't use a "modern" UI.
22:31 mixling; finally tagged the gcc47 profile, tested again, some cross-compilation paths succeed, which these do again
22:31 mixling; had to patch and hack some builds, for tcc-toolchain, which wasn't compatible anymore
22:31 mixling; and, the tcc-toolchain distro devdrop with aarch32 userspace, too works
22:32 mixling; finally, next week i will try to repair any libc compiling with tcc-toolchain, and linux-2.4 kernel for x86(64)
22:33 mixling; a nice side-effect, of c++ removal and the roll-back strategy to something barely acceptable as free software
22:33 mixling; no need to bother with any of the "innovation" and "news"
22:34 mixling; with linux-2.4, i'll test first, if this kernel successfully boots with an AMD/lenovo laptop from year 2013
22:35 mixling; another nice side effect, if it doesn't, some hardware from year 2008 won't be expensive
22:36 DaemonFC; The idea of letting some idiot like mjg59_ decide what runs on my PC is too offensive to even think about.
22:36 DaemonFC; His head is so far up Microsoft's ass it's impossible to say where they end and he begins.
22:37 mixling; it's two distros essentially: 1) gcc-4.7 c-only toolchain profile and 2) tcc-toolchain
22:37 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome has both kinds of music
22:37 highest_cubist_thrills; country, AND western
22:37 mixling; gcc47 remains frozen/archived for all eternity as it is
22:38 mixling; with tcc-toolchain, which is the _final_ target to proceed with, i decided to remove _all_ GNU autotools/automake and anything which depends on this
22:38 highest_cubist_thrills; actually i should rephrase that
22:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont hate listening to frank sinatra
22:38 mixling; guess how much remains then?
22:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but in the epic rap battle, freddie mercury said his music was "like a soundtrack to a vasectomy"
22:39 highest_cubist_thrills; and thats what gnome has
22:40 highest_cubist_thrills; except without it serving any useful purpose, because at least a vasectomy is functional
22:40 mixling; GNOME just isn't the type of software i want
22:40 MinceR; well, vasectomy removes functionality, which is very "modern"
22:40 mixling; i mean, almost 30 years ago, when MICROS~1 introduced win311, this was the first thing i removed
22:40 starstreak; I don't want Files to launch Gnome Console :(
22:40 starstreak; Otherwise I love gnome
22:40 mixling; i _always_ hated this type of software
22:40 MinceR; stop using Files?
22:40 highest_cubist_thrills; youre so weird
22:41 starstreak; Files is awesome tho
22:41 MinceR; yeah, i can see that
22:41 MinceR; it's so "awesome" you can't even pick what terminal emulator you want to open
22:41 mixling; and how is GNOME any different to win311, with it's design? or any better than win311? how much progress is it since then?
22:41 highest_cubist_thrills; that i could get around
22:41 highest_cubist_thrills; id delete gnome console and copy another term into the same name
22:41 starstreak; hmmm
22:41 highest_cubist_thrills; one of my favourite "you should never do this, stop it" tricks
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; i never configure a window manager
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its usually trivial
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; i cannot be bothered
22:42 starstreak; i might replace gnome
22:42 starstreak; enlightenment looks good
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; i rename the default one
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; then i copy the window manager i want to the same name
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and then its done
22:42 starstreak; theres also KDE
22:42 mixling; another win311++
22:42 highest_cubist_thrills; now i can think of reasons not to do it this way
22:43 highest_cubist_thrills; none of which apply to my uses
22:43 starstreak; i hate gnome now! i better wipe arch linux and install freedos/win311
22:43 MinceR; don't get too used to KDE, they've already capitulated to Gnome OS
22:43 starstreak; MinceR, in what way?
22:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i use david icke os btw
22:43 MinceR; they announced KDE5 would depend on cancerd
22:43 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, Reptilian Linucks?
22:43 MinceR; afaik it does "support" cancerd, though for now you probably have the option to run it on other OS-es
22:43 highest_cubist_thrills; gnuanderthals vs reptilinux
22:44 starstreak; is cancerd = systemd?
22:44 MinceR; yes
22:44 starstreak; i still like systemd
22:44 MinceR; that's your problem
22:44 starstreak; lol
22:44 MinceR; systemd inflexibly insists on broken behavior just like gnome does
22:44 highest_cubist_thrills; systemd is a disturbing kink
22:44 mixling; dbus cannot easily be removed from QT, and KDE does need it, always, everywhere
22:44 highest_cubist_thrills; like people who want to be lightly tortured with a cheese grater
22:44 MinceR; dbus is also broken by design
22:44 starstreak; maybe there will be a gnome extension that lets me use gnome terminal instead of console
22:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but its their right, its just disturbing
22:45 mixling; MinceR: broken how?
22:45 MinceR; unless gnome decides it's part of their "brand"
22:45 MinceR; see also people trying to change the look of the panel
22:45 highest_cubist_thrills; systemd and gnome are like jim and pam
22:45 highest_cubist_thrills; they were literally made for each other, its GOING to happen after enough seasons
22:45 MinceR; mixling: it's designed so that clients can't deal with the server being restarted -- by design, you're supposed to reboot to restart dbugs
22:45 highest_cubist_thrills; actually let me rephrase that
22:45 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre like kelly and ryan
22:45 MinceR; this might be OK on a toy OS like windows
22:45 mixling; ls -lah /usr/bin/dvtm
22:45 MinceR; but it does not belong on a server or a workstation
22:45 highest_cubist_thrills; no matter how much you try to intervene, the worst possible outcome is going to happen
22:45 mixling; file size 280K
22:46 starstreak; ill probably end up switching to KDE
22:46 MinceR; of course, on cancerd, you're supposed to reboot all the time anyway
22:46 starstreak; gotta reboot for kernel updates anyway
22:46 DaemonFC; I actually got banned from Libera Chat again, basically for saying Tor is a giant honeypot.
22:46 MinceR; Gnome OS has functionality to reboot for updates that don't need rebooting
22:46 MinceR; all the better to emulate windows
22:47 DaemonFC; And even the people who the prosecutors dismiss charges against are not safe because most of them have committed crimes that have no statute of limitations, so the government is free to pursue charges again as long as they're still alive.
22:47 MinceR; and when you're dying i'll be still alive
22:47 DaemonFC; So as soon as the browser vulnerabilities the FBI doesn't want to disclose now are no longer relevant, it still has the ability to go after those people if it wants to.
22:47 MinceR; and when you're dead i'll be still alive
22:47 highest_cubist_thrills; say youre fed up with arch amd gnome and that youre headin out to hollywood
22:47 starstreak; there is an extension that will let me open gnome-terminal from Files
22:48 MinceR; lol
22:48 highest_cubist_thrills; girl youve given me that line so many times it starts to feel like hearing bad lucks good
22:48 mixling; btw, those 280K for dvtm terminal multiplexer, that's statically linked, the entire "window manager" of mine
22:48 starstreak; the extension lets you choose a terminal
22:48 MinceR; i wonder how many gnome releases will it take to break that extension
22:48 mixling; /usr/bin/yaft, thast another 270K, and this too includes some unifcode font-set
22:48 MinceR; and not have it updated ever again
22:48 highest_cubist_thrills; the extension lets you choose a terminal <- thats some kde 4 shit right there
22:48 MinceR; yeah
22:48 highest_cubist_thrills; when they started doing that i was done
22:48 MinceR; KDE jumped the shark with 4.0
22:48 MinceR; it also nuked the fridge
22:48 highest_cubist_thrills; i think they did more than jump it
22:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i think they did some other things to that shark
22:49 mixling; yaft, statically linked, including unicode font, to show russian hieroglyphs, 270K
22:49 MinceR; :>
22:49 starstreak; my friend uses the extension to launch xfce4-terminal from Files
22:49 highest_cubist_thrills; things roy would never approve of in a comic or fanfic
22:49 MinceR; i don't think russians use hieroglyphs
22:49 starstreak; KDE 4 was nice
22:49 highest_cubist_thrills; things there would be an sjw brigade about on neocities
22:49 XRevan86; starstreak: What is this "GNOME Console" ye are speaking of?
22:49 MinceR; it was "modern"
22:49 highest_cubist_thrills; PROSHIP IS NOT OKAY!!!1111
22:49 MinceR; it was shiny, broken and feature-poor
22:49 mixling; oh, i forgot something to include into the frozen/archived gcc47 profile: vis editor
22:49 starstreak; XRevan86, its a new terminal emulator that was released with Gnome 42
22:50 highest_cubist_thrills; i don't think russians use hieroglyph <- they dont want you to know what theyre doing
22:50 highest_cubist_thrills; its all going on in the bunker
22:50 mixling; Vim has grown really fat... i'll miss some features of vim plugins available, when using vis editor
22:50 MinceR; i know what they're doing
22:50 MinceR; i've learned a bit of russian
22:50 XRevan86; Is "hieroglyph" defined as "non-Latin"?
22:50 MinceR; afaik hieroglyph is a particular kind of ideographic writing
22:50 mixling; yes, i'll relax another day tomorrow, and replace Vim with vis... not sure yet if vis editor suffices, it should
22:51 MinceR; just use a magnet, a needle and a steady hand
22:51 starstreak; acme or gtfo
22:51 highest_cubist_thrills; the egyptians werent ideos, they were just crazy
22:51 XRevan86; > A hieroglyph (Greek for "sacred carvings") was a character of the ancient Egyptian writing system. Logographic scripts that are pictographic in form in a way reminiscent of ancient Egyptian are also sometimes called "hieroglyphs".
22:51 MinceR; or use emacs and M-x butterfly
22:51 mixling; vis editor, was written by the same developer, who implemented dvtm, m. a. tanner
22:52 highest_cubist_thrills; /me was disappointed when he found out M-x butterfly wasnt a sex move
22:52 MinceR; :>
22:52 MinceR; i use M-x spook a lot more anyway
22:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if theres a club in boston where they have an emacs themed dungeon
22:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean it already abuses your fingers
22:52 XRevan86; starstreak: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/blob/2.74.0/gio/gdesktopappinfo.c#L2657-L2702 So that's concerning.
22:52 TR Bot; gio/gdesktopappinfo.c 2.74.0 GNOME / GLib GitLab
22:52 highest_cubist_thrills; just take it from there
22:53 mixling; i'll certainly need a day or two, to adapt to yet another editor variant
22:53 XRevan86; GNOME Console is not in the list.
22:53 XRevan86; So they hardcoded it elsewhere.
22:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i would use emacs if i had three hands
22:53 DaemonFC; We have no idea how the US government unmasks Tor users, but since the largest attack surface other than maybe social engineering, is the Tor Browser, which is basically Firefox.
22:53 starstreak; XRevan86, prurigro has an extension that lets you pick a terminal
22:53 DaemonFC; And the biggest attack surface in Firefox is Active Content, which includes codecs and JavaScript.
22:53 highest_cubist_thrills; actually the key combos are only my second biggest gripe about emacs
22:54 mixling; DaemonFC: i wouldn't trust firefox a minute, even when all cookies, javascript etc. were disabled
22:54 DaemonFC; If you turn the Security Slider to the Safest setting, you're undoubtedly better protected. Tor claims it ships without these protections because it wants users to have more "Web features".
22:54 highest_cubist_thrills; it has the least intuitive arrangement / management of buffers that ive ever seen in anything, ever
22:54 DaemonFC; But once you go past static site content, you're really not that secure anymore, so what's the point of the Tor bundle in this configuration?
22:55 mixling; i keep w3m/lynx/links and mask the user-agent string
22:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if someone had said "what should we call this editor" emacs would be called "what the hell am i doing"
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22:55 highest_cubist_thrills; to me
22:55 DaemonFC; Once you use Tor -and- disable Active Content, Clownflare really starts fucking with you.
22:55 highest_cubist_thrills; id use vim, but yknow, github
22:55 DaemonFC; That's how you know you're onto something, right?
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22:56 highest_cubist_thrills; /me has vi but only uses it in emergencies
22:56 mixling; highest_cubist_thrills: would be curious about a seccond opinion on vis-editor
22:56 mixling; i had not tried it yet
22:56 mixling; however, will try, to fully remove Vim and replace it with tivs
22:56 mixling; with vis
22:57 highest_cubist_thrills; using vi isnt a sin, its a penance <- rms
22:57 highest_cubist_thrills; but emacs isnt an editor, its a kink
22:57 mixling; vis editor integrated into dvtm terminal multiplexer... it's modular
22:58 MinceR; 18 235526 < highest_cubist_thrills> if someone had said "what should we call this editor" emacs would be called "what the hell am i doing"
22:58 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, nano is hosted on savannah
22:58 MinceR; EMACS stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift
22:58 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lFzdqlZGcw8
22:58 TR Bot; Patrick MacNee & Honor Blackman - Kinky Boots - Invidious
22:58 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills, nano is hosted on savannah <- yeah but the author is a traitor
22:58 MinceR; emacs isn't an editor, it's an operating system
22:59 highest_cubist_thrills; at least it doesnt use systemd yet
22:59 mixling; i refrain from EMACS for the following reasons: the dependency graph, emacs and dependencies is HUGE
22:59 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, oh because of the cancel rms thing?
22:59 mixling; it's grown too fat
22:59 highest_cubist_thrills; because of the cancel rms thing
22:59 highest_cubist_thrills; i only emailed a couple traitors about that
22:59 highest_cubist_thrills; the author of nano was one of them
22:59 highest_cubist_thrills; it wasnt a nice email
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 64.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 160.18
23:00 highest_cubist_thrills; it also wasnt long winded. which no one would believe, but its true nonetheless
23:00 highest_cubist_thrills; short and to the point: go fuck yourself
23:00 highest_cubist_thrills; long winded: and this is why...
23:00 starstreak; lol
23:00 highest_cubist_thrills; i was short and to the point
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the other guy was todd someone from openbsd and sudo
23:01 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/cash-advance-apps-vs-payday-loans-which-is-better/
23:01 TR Bot; Cash advance apps vs. payday loans: Which is better? | WGN-TV
23:01 DaemonFC; I answered: The universe where Biden wasn't passing trillion dollar spending bills every week and stealing 25% of your savings/earnings just to buy the same stuff as last year.
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; he was the only openbsd guy on the list
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; netbsd and freebsd had more
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; debian had the most
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome was up there
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; roy said no, gnome foundation
23:01 mixling; GNU could be renamed to this GNU is NOT POSIX: GNOPIX
23:01 highest_cubist_thrills; but there was shitloads of gnome, more than gnome foundation
23:02 starstreak; im not going to stop using software because of that
23:02 highest_cubist_thrills; most people wouldnt
23:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont want their shit
23:02 starstreak; fair enough
23:02 starstreak; thats your freedom
23:02 highest_cubist_thrills; its bad enough i have to use tor and gnupg
23:02 highest_cubist_thrills; thats your freedom <- it was, when things were still modular
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but now they try to glue everything into a blob like systemd and gnome
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; at least arch isnt like that
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean their init is
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but arch is like
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; if you cut its leg off
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; now its just arch-without-a-leg
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; arch is like honey badger
23:03 highest_cubist_thrills; and honey badger dont care
23:03 starstreak; i was ready to switch to englightenment or kde because of gnome 43, but there is a plugin that lets me switch terminals in Files
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; a plugin :)
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck this world lol
23:04 starstreak; lol
23:04 starstreak; i love gnome
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; whhyyyyyy
23:04 MinceR; why rename GNU? it's dead anyway
23:04 starstreak; i dont know, because its like macOS
23:04 highest_cubist_thrills; heh heh
23:06 starstreak; you know why my options were enlightenment or KDE?
23:06 starstreak; wayland support
23:06 highest_cubist_thrills; why rename GNU? it's dead anyway <- ex parrot / blobbix
23:07 highest_cubist_thrills; wayland support <- XD
23:07 highest_cubist_thrills; misanthrope os
23:07 starstreak; lol
23:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i hate humanity, thats why i made this distro
23:08 starstreak; enlightenment is good because its lightweight and flashy af
23:08 highest_cubist_thrills; in theory i agree
23:08 highest_cubist_thrills; in practice, i dont even want window management
23:08 starstreak; ahh i do
23:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i just want software to get off my lawn
23:08 starstreak; ok boomer :P
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; boomer os
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its just emacs and a pair of jumper wires
23:09 MinceR; lol waylandows
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; what are the jumper wires for
23:09 starstreak; i thought boomer os was debian/devuan stable
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; youll figure it out
23:09 MinceR; lol @ enlightenment being lightweight
23:09 highest_cubist_thrills; debian stable is an oxymoron now
23:10 starstreak; MinceR, maybe not as lightweight as fvwm or icewm
23:10 highest_cubist_thrills; there is only sid
23:10 MinceR; even the wm-s early gnome and kde used were faster than enlightenment
23:10 highest_cubist_thrills; when someone says "i like gnome" you can expect them to also say things like "enlightenment is lightweight"
23:10 MinceR; yeah
23:10 highest_cubist_thrills; which is true, if gnome is not an abomination
23:11 mixling; GNOME is the Win311 of GNU/Linux
23:11 highest_cubist_thrills; but i have no beef with enlightment, i just think its funny
23:11 MinceR; no, gnome is the macos gui of systemd/linux
23:11 starstreak; lol
23:11 starstreak; i loved macos
23:11 highest_cubist_thrills; honestly, id rather use macos than systemd or gnome
23:12 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont want a mac
23:12 highest_cubist_thrills; those things are garbage now
23:12 starstreak; i want an M2 Mac Mini
23:12 starstreak; Linus Torvalds runs a M2 Macbook Air with Fedora on it
23:12 highest_cubist_thrills; torvalds is an idiot
23:13 starstreak; https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-talks-rust-on-linux-his-work-schedule-and-life-with-his-m2-macbook-air/
23:13 TR Bot; Torvalds talks Rust on Linux, his work schedule and life with his M2 MacBook Air | ZDNET
23:13 highest_cubist_thrills; exactly
23:13 starstreak; I would run macOS on it
23:13 starstreak; cuz i love it
23:13 highest_cubist_thrills; /me tsks
23:13 starstreak; lol
23:14 highest_cubist_thrills; if britney and i got married, the whole thing would consist almost exclusively of her saying "look what i installed, its so cool"
23:14 MinceR; torvalds is a hostage
23:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and me going "tsk"
23:14 starstreak; lol
23:14 starstreak; "look what I made in iMovie"
23:14 highest_cubist_thrills; /me covers his eyes
23:15 mixling; there's that much money at stake
23:15 highest_cubist_thrills; no id watch it, its just this text on my screen...
23:15 starstreak; i had a college project where i had to make a movie and i learned how to do it in 2 days with iMovie with zero video editing experience
23:15 mixling; whom of the industry pioneers could speak out load without fear for their live?
23:15 highest_cubist_thrills; imovie is good that way
23:15 highest_cubist_thrills; holy shit did i say that
23:15 highest_cubist_thrills; but seriously though
23:15 starstreak; lol
23:16 starstreak; i tried kdenlive and no
23:16 starstreak; its garbage
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; no i wasnt kidding
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; well it has kde in it
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; so thats a dealbreaker
23:16 starstreak; lol
23:16 starstreak; openshot was garbage too
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; mono i think
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; even worse than kde
23:16 starstreak; python actually, and python is garbage
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; ahhhh
23:16 highest_cubist_thrills; well, python 3 is
23:17 starstreak; python 2.x and 3.x
23:17 highest_cubist_thrills; youre going nuclear on the trolling here
23:17 starstreak; im not trolling when i say python is garbage
23:17 highest_cubist_thrills; why is it garbage
23:17 starstreak; the syntax
23:17 DaemonFC; Under Biden, this country is backsliding into something you hear about people in Europe complaining about. Like, what their margarine and coffee ration is for the week.
23:17 highest_cubist_thrills; whats wrong with the syntax
23:18 starstreak; whitespace enforcement? wtf
23:18 MinceR; can you form whole arguments at all?
23:18 starstreak; why is there no "go fmt" equivalent
23:18 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> can you form whole arguments at all? <- she has way more fun not doing so
23:18 DaemonFC; If he's not gone soon, or at least if his party doesn't lose control of Congress and stop passing trillion dollar climate and welfare packages with money we don't have every week, we're screwed.
23:18 highest_cubist_thrills; no one needs to explain trolling to mincer
23:18 starstreak; ok maybe python isn't garbage, i just don't like it for stylistic reasons
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; why is there no "go fmt" equivalent <- i am not familiar with go fmt
23:19 starstreak; go fmt will format your code to make it more readable
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; though at a guess, go did not exist in the 1990s
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; when python development started
23:19 mixling; DaemonFC: even then, this isn't an excuse to wreck the entire tech industry
23:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and contrary to popular belief, python does not integrate every single idea it can find on reddit, only 99% of them
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; go fmt will format your code to make it more readable <- obviously with python 3 that is impossible
23:20 starstreak; lol
23:20 DaemonFC; "Welfare" is basically code for dumping a lot of money on people who don't even work so they'll have more kids to get more money from the government.
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; being unfamiliar with go im not sure what you consider readable
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; also you have a lot of opinions about code for someone who doesnt code much
23:20 DaemonFC; It's not what people think it is if they know nothing about the system. Like, a little help while they go look for employment.
23:20 highest_cubist_thrills; which is fine, but amusing
23:21 MinceR; hy improves the syntax of python
23:21 MinceR; but i prefer common lisp
23:21 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is not entirely in love with python syntax anyway
23:21 starstreak; is "its not golang" a good reason?
23:21 starstreak; LOL
23:21 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, https://i.imgur.com/ixDYXaj.jpg
23:21 DaemonFC; The government does nothing to help single and unmarried people because it considers them useless except to soak with all of the taxes to cover people who do nothing but get pregnant all the time.
23:21 highest_cubist_thrills; is "its not golang" a good reason? <- not entirely
23:22 DaemonFC; Single people without any kids always get fucked the worst by government.
23:22 starstreak; someone on discord told me golang was trash because it wasn't rust
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; thats nonsense
23:22 starstreak; XD
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; not being rust is a feature
23:22 DaemonFC; Even getting married lets you up for a little bit of air because one spouse usually earns a lot less than the other and the average tax bill goes down a bit.
23:22 starstreak; everyone has their fav language
23:22 DaemonFC; But mostly, the only people doing well are the ones popping out units.
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; if someone tells me rust is great, i offer to tell them about the book of mormon
23:22 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a fair fight
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hello, my name is elder white, and i would like to share with you this most amazing book!
23:23 MinceR; 19 002126 < starstreak> is "its not golang" a good reason?
23:23 MinceR; lol no generics
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; you can, read all about it now-- its a book about our lord and savior jesus crhist!
23:23 starstreak; MinceR, generics were added in 1.18
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; jesus crhist-- no one tells you about THAT guy
23:23 DaemonFC; Things are getting so bad I told a research center that I was interested in a paid study on an experimental blood pressure medication.
23:23 MinceR; not being rust is a feature, but so is not being go
23:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hes very similar to the christian one
23:24 MinceR; starstreak: great, maybe someday it will become a usable language
23:24 DaemonFC; It doesn't pay a hell of a lot. Like $1,200. But that's money that can keep things going for a little while.
23:24 MinceR; and in general, not being a hipster language is a feature
23:24 highest_cubist_thrills; /me covers mouth while laughing
23:24 MinceR; and more important, not being a bondage-and-discipline language
23:24 DaemonFC; MinceR: Hipsters can also like old stuff that has fallen out of favor.
23:24 MinceR; they usually don't
23:24 DaemonFC; Vinyl records?
23:25 DaemonFC; CRT televisions?
23:25 MinceR; dunno about the CRTs
23:25 starstreak; i also noticed something in vscode, when I save a .go file it runs go fmt on the code
23:25 starstreak; i had some messy code that got fixed when i hit save
23:25 XRevan86; "go fmt" <- Uh like autopep8?
23:25 MinceR; why let you edit your own code at all?
23:26 MinceR; they obviously know better
23:26 mixling; vis-editor, based on plan9... inferno OS
23:26 mixling; why was this named inferno?
23:27 starstreak; mixling, nice :D
23:27 starstreak; i like plan9/inferno
23:27 mixling; research *nix
23:27 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak: fixed https://i.ibb.co/tCKWLY0/ixDYXaj.jpg
23:28 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, lol
23:28 highest_cubist_thrills; /me had to pull out the old 2mp camera from the same bin
23:28 starstreak; a 20 year old camera lol
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; this digital camera is so old, you have to take the card out of it and send it in the post to be processed
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; then they send the photos back on a cd rom
23:29 starstreak; i have a nice 10MP canon digital camera but it eats batteries
23:30 mixling; and there's still some sources and software floating around, which isn't GNU, which isn't BSD
23:30 starstreak; my phone has a better camera
23:30 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: https://i.ibb.co/tCKWLY0/ixDYXaj.jpg <- https://youtu.be/BP-1mHpZ5ag?t=160
23:30 TR Bot; NO TITLE
23:30 mixling; MIT licensed... no clue, isn't RMS from MIT?
23:31 mixling; however, RMS promotes the GNU monstrosities, not some niche MIT stuff
23:31 highest_cubist_thrills; friendship is magic :)
23:31 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: Nope, it's the new one %).
23:31 highest_cubist_thrills; wow
23:31 highest_cubist_thrills; never seen it
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; it looks like they got animators on a tighter budget
23:32 mixling; and all the others, GNU/FSF/SFC/GNOME whoever... often distros don't bundle some MIT-licensed things at all
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; or theyre going for something retro
23:32 mixling; catgirl irc client, is one such goodie
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; because its definitely lost visual depth
23:33 mixling; dvtm terminal multiplexer, yaft terminal
23:33 XRevan86; After the (pretty decent) film they're airing two series: one simple and short on YouTube for free and the other will be 3D Maya and will air soon.
23:33 mixling; that's all neat software
23:33 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: So that's the simple free one.
23:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i havent followed this show since the divorce
23:33 DaemonFC; mixling: The tech industry should be ruined.
23:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but there will always be a place in my heart for twilight sparkle, however many wings and horns and shit she grows
23:34 DaemonFC; Ruined to the point that all the crap is cleared out of the system, like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, and Matthew Garrett.
23:34 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: It's not that great, but they've put a good song in there suddenly :)
23:34 DaemonFC; And then someone will rebuild you know.
23:34 DaemonFC; The knowledge of how to make cheap MIPS or ARM CPUs that run what the user tells it to won't be lost.
23:34 mixling; DaemonFC: quality software does exist still, however the niche is extremely small nowadays
23:34 DaemonFC; It'll be cheap as dirt. Someone in Taiwan will make them.
23:34 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: "however many wings and horns and shit she grows" <- Considering that the new series is "distant future" odds are she's dead :P
23:35 XRevan86; Unless she's immortal.
23:35 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, talk about nazis and eugenics and white flight, but we draw the line at brony conspiracies
23:35 highest_cubist_thrills; Unless she's immortal <- i mean
23:35 highest_cubist_thrills; okay
23:35 highest_cubist_thrills; but they still make new films about alan turing.
23:35 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: Right, but she definitely won't grow any new appendices after that.
23:36 highest_cubist_thrills; granted hes at least twice as important as twilight sparkle.
23:36 mixling; somehow, i think, it's better to keep out certain people and mindset, who enjoy their comfort among GNU/FSF/SFC/GNOME etc.
23:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but she definitely won't grow any new appendices after that <- thats okay, it was getting a bit much
23:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean if she needs any more of them its probably only for slashfics
23:36 mixling; to avoid them wrecking the last remaining little pieces there is
23:36 highest_cubist_thrills; PROSHIP IS NOT OKAY!
23:37 highest_cubist_thrills; fucking neocities :)
23:37 highest_cubist_thrills; /me draws a unicorn horn and wings on alan turing
23:37 highest_cubist_thrills; based!
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23:39 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xmo1oDgQmhM
23:39 TR Bot; Princess Unicorn | Official Commercial - Invidious
23:39 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: "thats okay, it was getting a bit much" <- Reminded me of https://youtu.be/vWIJPe912ic
23:39 TR Bot; https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=vWIJPe912ic
23:39 TR Bot; vid.puffyan.us | Alicorn Day - Invidious
23:40 starstreak; Ronnie!!!!
23:40 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: I'm sure Princess Unicorn knows how to defend herself.
23:42 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm sure Princess Unicorn knows how to defend herself. <- buzzfeed was selling them at events because she also has a tazer mode
23:42 mixling; apropos MIPS... i am yet not aware of any opensource-hardware which could be fully deployed to an FPGA, includign USB1, ethernet, VGA
23:43 mixling; to boot linux-2.4, and the package set of mine compiled with a sane toolchain, such as tcc
23:43 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: "yes, talk about nazis and eugenics and white flight, but we draw the line at brony conspiracies" <- No matter how much we can talk about the magical land of Equestria the one living in an imaginary world would still be aggi :)
23:44 mixling; i mean, if a MIPS SoC on FPGA, operated at 100MHz or something, with 256MiB DRAM, that's affordable and available with FGPA, although not cheap
23:44 highest_cubist_thrills; /me still thinks ergodan sounds like a product only dentists can buy
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23:44 mixling; and it could suffice, for some *nix development system, self-hosting, to compiler/bootstrap itself
23:44 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: ergo dan :D
23:44 highest_cubist_thrills; jeph jaques voice: hi, ergo dan
23:45 mixling; and currently, there isn't any tested toolchain other than tcc, to consider with such an opensource system
23:46 mixling; and GNU/FSF/SFC won't convince me, running gcc or llvm on an opensource hardware SoC deployed to FPGA was desireable
23:46 mixling; but they're that much freedom activists, they probably know better than me
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23:47 mixling; tcc doesn't support MIPS (no blame intended), it just rules out another candidate
23:47 mixling; of an opensource hardware SoC
23:48 mixling; with ao486, there is other problems, including the fact i486 isn't particularly efficient when deploying to FPGA
23:49 mixling; and currently this is the only interesection of opensource hardware and tcc-toolchain support i am aware of: x86
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23:50 mixling; in the end, what is it worth, an x86 operating at a few dozen MHz, with a few MiB of RAM... this is insufficient with tcc-toolchain even
23:52 mixling; what was the latest hot shit GNU/FSF promoted instead? UEFI?
23:52 mixling; i mean, the ao486 got some bochs/seabios based 100% opensource BIOS
23:52 techuser; wasn't FSF against Secure Boot just a few years ago?
23:54 mixling; what are they occupied with all day long at GNU/FSF/SFC whoever?
23:54 techuser; promoting "join us now and share the software"
23:54 techuser; it is a cult
23:54 highest_cubist_thrills; XRevan86 <- Reminded me of <- poor alicorn princess twilight sparkle
23:54 mixling; with the man-power and brains behind GNU/FSF, they could have promoted an opensource hardware support approach anytime
23:54 techuser; they don't really care
23:55 highest_cubist_thrills; me wonders if her powers can shut down github
23:55 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: If they can, she has a moral obligation to do so.
23:55 highest_cubist_thrills; ill fix her dresses
23:55 highest_cubist_thrills; /me has never seen twilight sparkle in a dress but lets give the benefit of the doubt here
23:56 highest_cubist_thrills; /me can sew at like xp 1 level
23:57 highest_cubist_thrills; slightly better than playing mlp:fim and leaving something in front of the screen and hoping for the best
23:57 highest_cubist_thrills; "i hope raritys in this one"
23:57 highest_cubist_thrills; idea: mpl xfiles crossover
23:58 highest_cubist_thrills; dear smoking man...
23:58 highest_cubist_thrills; today i found some mushrooms in the magical forest
23:58 highest_cubist_thrills; there were little green men trying to tell me something
23:58 highest_cubist_thrills; it turned out they just needed a friend
23:59 mixling; anyway, i'll postpone libc and kernel with tcc-toolchain another few days, and cope with vis-editor next
23:59 mixling; this will simplify my life a little more, to know, a decent vi editor variant exists
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