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00:06 morena; as bonus you can imagine in some terminal links are not clickable
00:07 morena; and even, one has not lifetime for reading every second another article
00:07 TR News; AMD Grabs Over 30% CPU Market Share As Intel Continues To Decline https://wccftech.com/amd-grabs-over-30-percent-market-share-with-epyc-cpus-intel-continues-to-decline/ Source: WCCF Tech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wccftech.com/amd-grabs-over-30-percent-market-share-with-epyc-cpus-intel-continues-to-decline/
00:07 TR Bot; AMD Grabs Over 30% CPU Market Share As Intel Continues To Decline
00:08 TR News; Apple doesn't want you developing hobby apps - Bennett Notes https://www.bennettnotes.com/notes/why-does-apple-restrict-hobby-development/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bennettnotes.com/notes/why-does-apple-restrict-hobby-development/
00:08 TR Bot; Apple doesn't want you developing hobby apps Bennett Notes
00:09 TR News; ChatGPT is a data privacy nightmare. If youve ever posted online, you ought to be concerned https://theconversation.com/chatgpt-is-a-data-privacy-nightmare-if-youve-ever-posted-online-you-ought-to-be-concerned-199283 Source: The Conversation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theconversation.com/chatgpt-is-a-data-privacy-nightmare-if-youve-ever-posted-online-you-ought-to-be-concerned-
00:09 TR Bot; ChatGPT is a data privacy nightmare. If youve ever posted online, you ought to be concerned
00:10 TR News; ChatGPT Is Ingesting Corporate Secrets - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/chatgpt-is-ingesting-corporate-secrets.html Source: Bruce Schneier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/chatgpt-is-ingesting-corporate-secrets.html
00:10 TR Bot; Is Ingesting Corporate Secrets - Schneier on Security
00:11 immibis; Apple is a cult. If you bought it you deserved what you got.
00:12 TR News; Why I'm not the biggest fan of Single Page Applications - Manuel Matuzovi https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/single-page-applications-criticism/ Source: Manuel Matuzovic | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/single-page-applications-criticism/
00:12 TR Bot; Why I'm not the biggest fan of Single Page Applications - Manuel Matuzovi
00:13 TR News; Modularizing React Applications with Established UI Patterns https://martinfowler.com/articles/modularizing-react-apps.html
00:13 TR Bot; Modularizing React Applications with Established UI Patterns
00:14 TR News; The Heisenbug lurking in your async code - Textual https://textual.textualize.io/blog/2023/02/11/the-heisenbug-lurking-in-your-async-code/
00:14 TR Bot; The Heisenbug lurking in your async code - Textual
00:15 TR News; How C++23 changes the way we write code - Timur Doumler - Meeting C++ 2022 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QyFVoYcaORg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QyFVoYcaORg
00:15 TR Bot; How C++23 changes the way we write code - Timur Doumler - Meeting C++ 2022 - Invidious
00:15 TR News; The Real C++ Killers (Not You, Rust) | HackerNoon https://hackernoon.com/the-real-c-killers-not-you-rust Source: Hacker Noon | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hackernoon.com/the-real-c-killers-not-you-rust
↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hackernoon.com/the-real-c-killers-not-you-rust
00:15 TR Bot; Real C++ Killers (Not You, Rust) | HackerNoon
00:16 TR News; Simple Physics-based Flight Simulation with C++ | Jakob Maier https://www.jakobmaier.at/posts/flight-simulation/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.jakobmaier.at/posts/flight-simulation/
00:16 TR Bot; Simple Physics-based Flight Simulation with C++ | Jakob Maier
00:17 TR News; Re: Factor: Proquint https://re-factor.blogspot.com/2023/02/proquint.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//re-factor.blogspot.com/2023/02/proquint.html
00:17 TR Bot; Re: Factor: Proquint
00:18 TR News; Fixing Too much WIP. too much WIP means too many things | by Jason Yip | Jan, 2023 | Medium https://jchyip.medium.com/fixing-too-much-wip-ba4d254048a3 Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jchyip.medium.com/fixing-too-much-wip-ba4d254048a3
00:18 TR Bot; Fixing Too much WIP. too much WIP means too many things | by Jason Yip | Jan, 2023 | Medium
00:19 TR News; Retrospectives Antipatterns https://martinfowler.com/articles/retrospective-antipatterns.html
00:19 TR Bot; Retrospectives Antipatterns
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; (NEW): FOSS communities: You dont need to yell http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/FOSS_communities_You_don_t_need_to_yell.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/FOSS_communities_You_don_t_need_to_yell.gmi
00:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines FOSS communities: You dont need to yell
00:24 immibis; schestowitz[TR]: is this server hosted in Germany?
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; no
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; i know where you are going with this..
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; (techpol)
00:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D507.jpg
00:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D839.jpg
00:27 TR News; Brendan Gregg: USENIX SREcon APAC 2023: CFP http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2023-02-17/srecon-apac-2023.html
00:27 TR Bot; USENIX SREcon APAC 2023: CFP
00:27 immibis; Oh just wondering. It has no impact on whether I'm required to file a criminal complainr.
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; the state of germany is already aware
00:28 TR News; Salih Emin: ucaresystem core 4.4.0 : Now published for Ubuntu Kinetik and Lunar https://utappiablog.wordpress.com/2023/02/17/ucaresystem-core-4-4-0-now-published-for-ubuntu-kinetik-and-lunar/
00:28 TR Bot; ucaresystem core 4.4.0 : Now published for Ubuntu Kinetik and Lunar Utappia
00:29 DaemonFC; ChatGPT is dismissive of the DEA deal with the Sinaloa Cartel.
00:29 DaemonFC; Even though the deal is well documented and written about at length in Wikipedia.
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: i noticed something
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; some of the media,m
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; no longer bribed,
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; is now berating the chatbot
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; real articles
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; critical too
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; not only puff pieces
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; we're still expanding our scope of view for articles
00:31 TR News; Universities controlled by oligarchies. Do we WANT that??? https://record.umich.edu/articles/school-of-education-named-to-honor-marsal-familys-gift/
00:31 TR Bot; School of Education named to honor Marsal familys gift | The University Record
00:32 DaemonFC; Yeah, so now that the paid shit is out of the way, the stories come out.
00:32 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23010565
00:32 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23010565
00:32 *psydruid thinks the Wintel PC industry will completely disappear at some point, so bye bye Lenovo and others
00:32 psydruid; including gulagtraitors
00:32 TR News; CNN hypocrisy https://www.cnn.com/collections/fox-news-intl-021723/
00:32 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.cnn.com/collections/fox-news-intl-021723/ )
00:33 TR News; 'Propaganda network': See reporter's reaction to damning Fox News texts https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/02/17/fox-news-talent-executives-court-documents-darcy-vpx-cnntm.cnn
00:33 TR Bot; News stars privately trashed election fraud claims, according to court documents | CNN Business
00:33 TR News; CNN attack helicopter https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/02/17/ukraine-helicopter-fighting-front-line-aviator-kiley-pkg-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn
00:33 TR Bot; you're frightened you should stay home': CNN flies with Ukrainian attack helicopter | CNN
00:34 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:34 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:34 DaemonFC; ChatGPT denies that there are deals between the Sinaloa Cartel and the DEA even though the Wikipedia article about the Cartel lists the DEA's deals, with citations, and it's both former Cartel members and former agents that exposed the deals.
00:34 DaemonFC; When you confront GPT with it, it says this isn't evidence and years have gone by without further accusations.
00:34 DaemonFC; So I guess we're good then. ChatGPT, which has been programmed to lie + defend Big Government, the cops, and mega-corporations says it's a lie.
00:36 TR News; nytimes propaganda with LOADED headline: "Why a Strong Economy Is Making Stock Investors Jittery". "Strong Economy"???!?! Seriously??????
00:37 TR News; What Fox News Says When Youre Not Listening https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/opinion/fox-news-dominion.html
00:37 TR Bot; Opinion | What Fox News Says When Youre Not Listening - The New York Times
00:37 DaemonFC; yan Alcaraz
00:37 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:37 DaemonFC; The DEA is much more concerned with siphoning off drug money than it is about dismantling cartels and shutting down sex trafficking rings that use children as young as 9 or 10 and pimp them out.
00:37 DaemonFC; The government has abandoned major American cities to drugs and sex traffickers in exchange for focusing on grabbing as much of the cash flowing back down as possible. They don't want all of the cash because then the activity generating the cash for the government would cease. So they turn a blind eye.
00:38 TR News; No, a chatbot is not search at all. Stop relaying this misinformation. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/podcasts/the-daily/the-online-search-wars-got-scary-fast.html
00:38 TR Bot; The Online Search Wars Got Scary. Fast. - The New York Times
00:41 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:41 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:41 DaemonFC; So what's happening is that the US and state governments are fine with all of the Cartel activity.
00:41 DaemonFC; The murders, the drugs, the social rot, the underage sex trafficking rings, as long as it can seize say, half the cash going back down.
00:41 DaemonFC; So police really function less like law enforcement and more like criminals that are extorting the criminals with a ~50% tax on the profits of drug overdoses, people who are forced to endure being raped over and over again as minors, just total carnage.
00:42 TR News; Fox stars privately bashed election fraud claims the network pushed https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/fox-news-dominion-election-fraud
00:42 TR Bot; Fox stars privately bashed election fraud claims the network pushed
00:42 TR News; How big companies like Tesla and Starbucks are fending off unionization https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/how-big-companies-tesla-and-starbucks-fend-off-unionization
00:42 TR Bot; How big companies like Tesla and Starbucks are fending off unionization
00:43 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:43 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC@mstdn.social
00:43 DaemonFC; The law enforcement never wins the "War on Drugs" because the cash grab would end. The need for a giant government power grab would end.
00:43 DaemonFC; Instead of putting the Cartel people in prison, the American police spend very nearly all of their enforcement efforts against some Black and Brown people they pull over for a "burned out tail light" that turn out to have a dime bag. They save their viciousness for the victims. They take it all out on people who should be in hospitals getting better.
00:43 TR News; Lies about unemployment https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/rock-bottom-jobless-claims-might-be-overstated
00:43 TR Bot; JPMorgan examines how severance packages impact jobless claims data
00:45 TR News; "evident that Microsoft is more interested in maintaining their profit margins than conserving resources" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/windows-and-xboxs-greenwashing-tactics-fail-to-address-real-energy-and-security-issues-why-gnu-linux-and-nintendo-offer-better-alternatives/
00:45 TR Bot; Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives | BaronHK's Rants
00:45 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:45 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:45 DaemonFC; Hollywood putting out cop-a-ganda like End of Watch is to make people think that the police are out there risking their lives taking on violent criminals and shutting them down, even though that's not what they do.
00:45 DaemonFC; In real life, those two cops wouldn't be going after the Sinaloa Cartel, they'd be ignoring them entirely, growing fat sitting on the side of the road chasing down speeders for tickets.
00:45 DaemonFC; They plan to grow fat on a pension. They're not action heroes.
00:47 TR News; The langpack PETs are gone https://bkhome.org/news/202302/the-langpack-pets-are-gone.html
00:47 TR Bot; The langpack PETs are gone
00:51 TR News; Feds are sending medical experts to Ohio toxic train wreck site as residents safety concerns simmer https://kentwired.com/92328/world-nation/feds-are-sending-medical-experts-to-ohio-toxic-train-wreck-site-as-residents-safety-concerns-simmer/
00:51 TR Bot; Feds are sending medical experts to Ohio toxic train wreck site as residents safety concerns simmer Kent Wired
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: gov. cares abour your health
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; it also cares about perception
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; and corporate profits
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; those are not compatible with health
00:51 immibis; Governments do not care about health.
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; never
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; or job figures
00:53 TR News; New Protections for Food Benefits Stolen by Skimmers https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/02/new-protections-for-food-benefits-stolen-by-skimmers/
00:53 TR Bot; New Protections for Food Benefits Stolen by Skimmers Krebs on Security
00:53 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:53 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:53 DaemonFC; Fox News Channel got the rights to COPS and continues to produce because conservatives are a bunch of stinking assholes who get their sick kicks watching racist police officers stick guns in people's faces.
00:53 DaemonFC; Sadly, this show continues to be produced because they consider it a way to "own the libs".
00:53 DaemonFC; The cops cause social problems that far exceed what they clean up. A life can be ruined over a misdemeanor and society will pay greatly because the police fucked around and caused a snowball effect.
00:54 TR News; How to setup Linux Apache Mysql Python server https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-linux-apache-mysql-python-server
00:54 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-linux-apache-mysql-python-server )
00:55 TR News; How to install tar.gz file on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-tar-gz-file-on-linux
00:55 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-tar-gz-file-on-linux )
00:57 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
00:57 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:57 DaemonFC; The ways society pays for the cops overreacting to misdemeanors takes many forms, from reduced earnings for the defendant leading to lower tax revenue + use of welfare programs, to causing the person to give up and commit larger crimes, either because they've lost control of their life anyway or need money, all the way up to suicide, which also has a social cost in Dollar and other terms.
00:57 DaemonFC; The media never reports how many people walked in front of Metra due to what a court just did to them.
00:59 TR News; Troubleshooting the Disk Full Error on Linux Systems https://linuxconfig.org/troubleshooting-the-disk-full-error-on-linux-systems
00:59 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/troubleshooting-the-disk-full-error-on-linux-systems )
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 TR News; Solving the Segmentation Fault Error on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/solving-the-segmentation-fault-error-on-linux
00:59 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/solving-the-segmentation-fault-error-on-linux )
01:00 TR News; Fixing the Cannot Open Display Error on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/fixing-the-cannot-open-display-error-on-linux
01:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/fixing-the-cannot-open-display-error-on-linux )
01:03 TR News; Install Portainer Docker UI Web Interface on Ubuntu 22.04 https://linuxhint.com/install_portainer_docker_ui_ubuntu/
01:03 TR Bot; Install Portainer Docker UI Web Interface on Ubuntu 22.04
01:04 TR News; Setup Docker Private Registry on Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/setup_docker_private_registry_ubuntu/
01:04 TR Bot; Setup Docker Private Registry on Ubuntu
01:05 TR News; Install and Use Rancher on Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/install_rancher_ubuntu_docker_containers/
01:05 TR Bot; Install and Use Rancher on Ubuntu
01:05 TR News; How to Boost FPS in Linux? https://linuxhint.com/boost-fps-linux/
01:05 TR Bot; How to Boost FPS in Linux?
01:06 TR News; Setting up Kali Linux on AWS EC2 https://linuxhint.com/kali_linux_aws_ec2/
01:06 TR Bot; Setting up Kali Linux on AWS EC2
01:06 TR News; How to Install Docker on Debian 11 (Bullseye): The Easy Way https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-docker-on-debian-11-bullseye/
01:06 TR Bot; How to Install Docker on Debian 11 (Bullseye): The Easy Way
01:08 TR News; List of Git GUI applications for Linux https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-git-gui-applications-for-linux
01:08 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-git-gui-applications-for-linux )
01:08 TR News; Linux GUI text editors https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-text-editors
01:08 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-text-editors )
01:08 TR News; Linux GUI network managers https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-network-managers
01:08 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-network-managers )
01:09 TR News; Brittany Day feeding microsoft propaganda sites again https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/readline-crime-exploiting-a-suid-logic-bug
↺ https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/readline-crime-exploiting-a-suid-logic-bug
01:09 TR Bot; Crime: Exploiting a SUID Logic Bug | LinuxSecurity.com
01:10 TR News; Linux Performance Optimization: Tools and Techniques https://linuxconfig.org/linux-performance-optimization-tools-and-techniques
01:10 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-performance-optimization-tools-and-techniques )
01:10 TR News; Graphical user interface (GUI) applications for managing MySQL https://linuxconfig.org/graphical-user-interface-gui-applications-for-managing-mysql
01:10 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/graphical-user-interface-gui-applications-for-managing-mysql )
01:10 morena; anyway
01:10 morena; I would like to know that one thing I asked already
01:11 morena; maybe somebody can answer
01:11 morena; the reason why techrights.org does use cert
01:11 TR News; Funny BSD Pictures https://lunduke.substack.com/p/funny-bsd-pictures
01:11 TR Bot; Funny BSD Pictures - by Bryan Lunduke
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; don't use https for techrights
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; uses http
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; *use
01:12 morena; yes, any reason behind that?
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; if you insist on https, don't believe your browser lying
01:12 morena; no, I don't
01:12 morena; I want to know just a reason for that
01:13 morena; bc. it's pretty rare today
01:13 morena; almost like a rebelion ;/
01:13 TR News; navigating futures https://mahb.stanford.edu/artscommunity/navigating-futures/
01:13 TR Bot; navigating futures - MAHB
01:14 TR News; 14 Open Source Free First-Person Shooter FPS Games for Linux, Windows, and macOS https://medevel.com/open-source-free-fps-games/
01:14 TR Bot; 14 Open Source Free First-Person Shooter FPS Games for Linux, Windows, and macOS
01:14 morena; oh shit
01:15 TR News; Croc: Easily Share Files Between Computers https://medevel.com/croc-share-files/
01:15 TR Bot; Croc: Easily Share Files Between Computers
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; you can read about it
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; we covered the subject a lot around 2021
01:18 morena; where? pretty hard to navigate that site
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; most sites are like thaat
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; if they become large enough
01:18 morena; yes
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; search the site for "let's encrypt"
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; for starting point
01:18 morena; okay, thanks
01:19 morena; now just to find search shit there ;/
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; LE is controlled by http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
01:19 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
01:19 TR News; Peso at strongest level against the dollar since 2018 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/peso-at-strongest-level-against-the-dollar-since-2018/
01:19 TR Bot; Peso at strongest level against the dollar since 2018
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 morena; oaky site search found nothing, there is google search lol
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/index.php?s=let+encrypt
01:21 TR Bot; Let Encrypt | Techrights
01:21 morena; ye probably let's broke it with '
01:22 morena; but more things are broken there, but that's okay ;/
01:22 DaemonFC; Let's Encrypt is a ruse to make it seem like nobody has any reason to use HTTP anymore and that will let browser vendors eventually refuse to connect to HTTP sites.
01:22 morena; most website are
01:22 morena; ye
01:22 DaemonFC; Then they can decide who they give certificates to and get the "undesirables" off the Web entirely.
01:22 morena; interesting how almost everyone copy
01:22 morena; and just fall for that cert scam
01:23 DaemonFC; It'll be easier to control who can be on the Web that way because if the certificate doesn't come with a major Web browser, it's useless.
01:24 TR News; How to tackle multiple tasks at once on Ubuntu 22.04 https://net2.com/how-to-tackle-multiple-tasks-at-once-on-ubuntu-22-04/
01:24 TR Bot; How to tackle multiple tasks at once on Ubuntu 22.04
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; morena: you can use gemini://
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; self-signed is OK in gemini
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; the www is waning anyway
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; see the stats in netcraft
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; more sites perish than get created
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; and the traffic is moving down
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; a lot is just peopple feasting on drm
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; companies that operate at a loss
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; to send people propaganda
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; binging on things like youtube for hours
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; ads and junk
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; *binge-ing
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; or controlled (by Muks, Saudis) 'activism' in twitter
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; Musk and others changed the type of control
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; but it's still fake, fake, fake
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; steering public rage
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; based on some nefarious, private agenda
01:30 TR News; One Rupert Murdoch outlet trying to distract from the real scandal in the other outlet (Fox) https://pagesix.com/2023/02/17/megan-fox-found-texts-and-dms-in-machine-gun-kellys-phone/
01:30 TR Bot; Megan Fox found suspicious texts, DMs on MGKs phone before feud
01:30 DaemonFC; https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/browsers
01:30 TR Bot; How to choose a browser for everyday use?
01:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
01:31 TR News; Russia to introduce digital identity cards https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/17/russia-to-introduce-digital-identity-cards/
01:31 TR Bot; Russia to introduce digital identity cards OffGuardian
01:31 DaemonFC; https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/mozilla
01:31 TR Bot; Mozilla - Devil Incarnate
01:31 DaemonFC; https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox
01:31 TR Bot; Firefox Spyware Watchdog
01:31 psydruid; the www brought to you by Vint Cerf, Tim Berners-Lee and Al Gore
01:31 DaemonFC; https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/mozilla
01:31 psydruid; and taken away from you by greedy corporations
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; can't wait for the www to die off
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; faster
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; it's already waning
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; we don't get web pages
01:32 psydruid; infested by gulagmoles
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; we get many scripts instead
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; the browser became sandbox or vm for js
01:32 psydruid; I only use the web when I have to
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; then webasdsembly
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; and other junk
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; *webassembly
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: same here
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; i scrape off onto kate
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; and read the news in kate
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; thanks to rss
01:35 TR News; (NEW): LinuxConfig on GNU/Linux Development Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/LinuxConfig_on_GNU_Linux_Development_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/LinuxConfig_on_GNU_Linux_Development_Tools.gmi
01:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines LinuxConfig on GNU/Linux Development Tools
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; we'll add some code to git soon
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; it's work in progress
01:38 psydruid; I don't even see what's special about YouTube
01:38 DaemonFC; I frequently use Brave in Tor Mode even though it's not perfect because Tor Browser is trash.
01:39 psydruid; they are only special because a big networking backbone
01:39 DaemonFC; Underneath it is a VPN set to use a European server in a GDPR country.
01:39 DaemonFC; I mean, basically you want to give an attacker as many things to untangle as you can.
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: in the beginning..
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; there was GoogleVideo
01:39 psydruid; But with gigabit fibre in homes you can run your own media server
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; and another company, YouTube
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; no ads
01:40 DaemonFC; I wouldn't rely on just the Tor Network or just a VPN or just HTTPS-Only.
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; barely JS and blloat
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; they used flash
01:40 DaemonFC; But using all three is better.
01:40 psydruid; I know about both of them
01:40 morena; ye web becomes annoying
01:40 DaemonFC; Because it gives you some privacy even if someone compromises the others.
01:40 morena; somehow found I hate to leave nice terminal - lovely plain text and open firefox
01:41 DaemonFC; The more resources an attacker has to spend to compromise your privacy the less they'll probably even bother to do it.
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; i mostly use terminal and text editor
01:41 morena; also find something becomes nightmare, searchengine are now just propaganda, many results vanished
01:41 DaemonFC; Unless you're just some major criminal or pain in the ass, probably nobody bothers.
01:41 DaemonFC; So it's "threat modeling".
01:41 psydruid; the same is true for search engines
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; yes, even gulag.com got a lot worse
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's designed to sell ideas and products
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; not to inform people
01:41 morena; ye
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; so i mostly avoid it
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; wikipedia got astroturfed a lot
01:42 morena; I remember it was relatively okay in the past
01:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I use the Ononoki.org searx.
01:42 DaemonFC; It's fast, it's more reliable than the others.
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; in many domains the articles became worse than useless
01:42 psydruid; distributed search engines should be a thing
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; they became poliitical and corporate propaganda
01:42 morena; but now every month/year is worse and worse, always get just the same shitty popular sites as results
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; institutional brainwash
01:42 DaemonFC; I fiddled with it. It's a mix of DuckDuckGo, Brave, and Google.
01:42 morena; ye
01:42 DaemonFC; Sometimes one doesn't respond, but you get results from the others.
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yesterday I saw duckduckgo ad at a a bus stop!
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; never saw physical ads for them before
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; not here anyway
01:43 DaemonFC; My goal is mainly so that there are different Censorship models.
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; sponsored by microsoft
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; bing masked
01:43 morena; then find something just ai generated crap ;/ millions words about search term, no answer or any usefull info
01:43 DaemonFC; They're not all in lockstep with each other and most Censors mainly focus on Google.
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; don't use search engines much
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; they are overused
01:43 DaemonFC; Because you take care of your Google problem, there went 94% of the Web users.
01:43 psydruid; and gulag should just go away and die together with microsoft and the rest of the mafia
01:43 DaemonFC; They won't see that thing you just hid.
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; i grew up on webcrawler and altavista
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; those failed
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; thewn there were web directories like dmoz
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; then stumbleupon
01:44 DaemonFC; I used to be a heavy user of Yahoo.
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; before social control media tookk off
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; or bored.com
01:44 DaemonFC; GeoCities, Mail, Search, YIM.
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; then you could gets tortiies and ANSWERS in folrums
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; inc. usenet
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; no need for search engines
01:44 DaemonFC; By 2008 or so, Yahoo was basically thoroughly finished.
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; human knowlege, not "hey hi"
01:44 DaemonFC; They still had some money.
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; *dge
01:44 DaemonFC; By the time they paid Mozilla for default status I was like WHAT THE FUCK?
01:44 psydruid; altavista.digital.com
01:44 DaemonFC; Yahoo!?
01:44 DaemonFC; Who even uses this?
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; micreosoft
01:45 *h4unt3d has quit (Quit: connection closed.)
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; it was microsoft spying on you
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; via firefox
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; in us and uk
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; yahoo became just a front end for microsoft
01:45 psydruid; of course altavista was just a demo for them to see how their systems would hold under load
01:45 psydruid; in a time when x86 hardware was crap
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; the www was never very very useful
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; but in the 90s it was not a propaganda model
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; now it's worse than just propaganda
01:46 DaemonFC; Brave is like, the best Chromium browser.
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's also censorship and surveillance
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's like "big brother"
01:46 DaemonFC; You still have to neuter a lot of bad stuff by hand.
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; try falkon
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's not bad either
01:46 DaemonFC; But it's like lemonade when you only have lemons.
01:46 psydruid; how long until they eee gemini wholesale?
01:46 morena; ye, but one can still make nice web
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; and you don't need to trust eich's ilk
01:46 morena; simple, not broken like your ;/
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; gemini
01:47 morena; and webring to connect with good resources
01:47 psydruid; they'll never be content with letting the web just die
01:47 DaemonFC; I guess if Falkon is in Flatpak and I don't have to spew KDEshit all over my GNOME.
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; my personal site is still in a webring
01:47 psydruid; microsoft tried a few years ago, they may try again
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: if you don't use kate, you are missing out
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe konsole too
01:48 psydruid; and there are still no gemini browsers in distributions
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; they don't take all of kde
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; not in recent distros
01:48 DaemonFC; Firefox is turning into like, Windows 11.
01:48 morena; no gemini browser in distro? hah
01:48 psydruid; which is weird
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: in debian and ubuntu there is an emacs mod
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; it's not great
01:48 morena; that has to be really amazing distro
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; i have it installed
01:48 DaemonFC; It's like half as fast as Chromium, not fully compatible with the sites I need, uses way too much RAM and CPU to do what it does.
01:48 DaemonFC; And it's a privacy mess ran by a user-hostile organization that fired most of the people who were actually improving it.
01:49 DaemonFC; If you MUST use a Gecko browser, LibreWolf ships a better default configuration to start from.
01:49 psydruid; schestowitz[TR]: what about shipping Lagrange and Kristall?
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; not yet
01:49 psydruid; that shouldn't be too hard
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; but lagrange is in flathub
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; and some french-vietnamese-canadian guy packaged it for fedora
01:49 psydruid; it's been 3 years now
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, voidlinux and openbsd still have gemini clients in their repos
01:50 psydruid; it may take another 7 years
01:50 morena; yes openbsd has, like amfora, bombadillo, castor and one other gui I think
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; Lagrange and Kristall have appimages
01:50 psydruid; I believe it's being kept out of repositories on purpose
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; by who?
01:51 morena; kristall too
01:51 psydruid; distribution developers
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; but why?
01:51 psydruid; undesirable technologies
01:52 TR News; Zig Bits 0x1: Returning slices from functions https://blog.orhun.dev/zig-bits-01/
01:52 TR Bot; Orhun's Blog
01:52 DaemonFC; Firefox is not even all that much less terrible than Chrome anymore.
01:52 DaemonFC; Just stock Chrome v. Firefox.
01:52 morena; well at least it's still configurable in about:config
01:52 psydruid; why can openbsd do it but debian can't?
01:53 morena; debian does not have gemini browser?
01:53 psydruid; it's not in the repositories, as far as I know
01:53 TR News; Enrico Zini: Monitoring a heart rate monitor http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2023/debian/monitoring-a-heart-rate-monitor
01:53 TR Bot; Monitoring a heart rate monitor
01:54 morena; interesting
01:54 morena; but debian is corporate crap anyway so
01:54 psydruid; sure
01:54 morena; but they have
01:55 morena; just checked
01:55 morena; all I mentioned
01:56 psydruid; I just need to wait to get new storage before I install freebsd and/or openbsd alongside debian
01:56 psydruid; I expect to need debian less and less over time
01:57 morena; or use their testing if you really need debian
01:57 morena; or is not stable enough?
01:57 psydruid; and that's basically my final involvement with gnu/linux
01:57 morena; yes ;/
01:57 morena; good move ;/
01:57 psydruid; no, I don't really need gnu/linux
01:58 psydruid; I had all of these operating systems running on my hardware, but had to remove them due to storage limitations
01:58 morena; so
01:58 TR News; Jonathan McDowell: First impressions of the VisionFive 2 https://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/2023/02/visionfive-2-impressions.html
01:58 TR Bot; First impressions of the VisionFive 2
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 DaemonFC; Some of his comments about Brave are extreme.
01:59 psydruid; in one or two instances hard drives also died
01:59 TR News; Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 236 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-236-released/
01:59 TR Bot; diffoscope 236 released
01:59 DaemonFC; You can turn off the Rewards platform and all the other self-promoting shit and "privacy preserving analytics" and the browser works perfectly fine.
02:00 morena; you probably download too much porn?
02:00 psydruid; no, it's a lot of source code and virtual machines
02:01 psydruid; and learning materials
02:01 DaemonFC; You can never download too much porn. It's like Ron White said. Once you've seen one of them naked you kind of want to see them all.
02:01 DaemonFC; I about died.
02:03 DaemonFC; https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/11/google-mozilla-blacklist-gabs-dissenter-browser-extension/
02:03 TR Bot; Google, Mozilla Blacklist Gab's 'Dissenter' Free Speech Browser Extension
02:04 DaemonFC; "This Brave fork was whipped out in literally a few days in response to the recent wave of censorship from Twitter, Facebook, Mozilla etc. Its claim to fame is being integrated with the Dissenter extension (banned from Firefox's and Chrome's extension stores (archive)) which allows you to comment on any article from any website, bypassing their censorship policies. Quite handy. To use it, however, you need to sign up for their social network,
02:04 DaemonFC; which requires ReCaptcha (devs have dismissed the issue (archive)). Then, to post a comment, you of course have to share the site you're on with Dissenter, which - if used extensively - could build quite a profile of your browsing history."
02:04 DaemonFC; LOL
02:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, there's that. I like the concept of discussing whatever you want about a Web page with a plug-in but I'm not going to identify myself and let them build a profile.
02:08 DaemonFC; ". Their site is also cloudflared, which means all your history and comments will be shared with the evil tech giant (archive), MITMing from the shadows."
02:08 DaemonFC; LOL
02:09 DaemonFC; Sounds like Google and Mozilla banning this thing did people a favor.
02:09 DaemonFC; "Used to use a custom engine and was highly praised by the users, but after switching to Blink (Chrome engine) it dropped most of its features and left waves of dissatisfied users. A few years later it was bought by a Chinese company which put the final nail in its coffin. Forget about its bullshit marketing talk such as Now with a built-in ad blocker, battery saver and free VPN. Opera heavily spies on you (archive), including on your whole
02:09 DaemonFC; browsing history. Integrated by default with spyware platforms such as Facebook, WhatsApp (owned by FB), and Telegram (apparently insecure according to the cryptographers). The VPN is very likely a Chinese honeypot and uMatrix outclasses all adblockers. Though it has some nice features like mouse gestures and automatic currency conversion, there's not much reason to use nuOpera over the other Chrome forks. Avoid." (Opera)
02:09 DaemonFC; Yes, I used to love Opera.
02:10 DaemonFC; I used it quite often.
02:10 DaemonFC; Now I won't even install it. It's pointless. There's a million Chromium browsers that just use some additional unique spyware.
02:10 DaemonFC; Microsoft even has one.
02:11 DaemonFC; "The above cannot be disabled even if you're a programming ninja - because Vivaldi's source code is unavailable! Their New Tab page is filled with various partners' websites by default, including violators such as YouTube and Amazon - though you can fortunately remove those."
02:11 TR News; Gunnar Wolf: We are GREAT at handling multimedia! https://gwolf.org/2023/02/we-are-great-at-handling-multimedia.html
02:11 TR Bot; Gunnar Wolf We are GREAT at handling multimedia!
02:11 DaemonFC; It keeps restoring those bookmarks even if you remove them.
02:11 DaemonFC; Next time you get an update.
02:13 DaemonFC; Pale Moon has gotten fucking ridiculous with the banning of extensions based on the whim of the developers.
02:13 DaemonFC; And then scaring the crap out of the user by acting like it was the extension's fault.
02:13 TR News; "So, there you go. Life in the terminal is still improving here in 2023, its great to see." https://exple.tive.org/blarg/2023/02/17/modern-problems-require-modern-solutions/
02:13 TR Bot; Modern Problems Require Modern Solutions | blarg
02:13 TR News; Spidermonkey Development Blog: SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 110-111) https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2023/02/16/newsletter-firefox-110-111.html
02:13 TR Bot; SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 110-111) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine
02:14 TR News; Pluralistic: Google's chatbot panic (16 Feb 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/16/tweedledumber/
02:14 TR Bot; Pluralistic: Googles chatbot panic (16 Feb 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
02:14 DaemonFC; "A contributor created a backup of Mozilla's XUL docs (that they want to delete in December 2020) and got dubbed an insect (archive) for it by Tobin, the other main developer."
02:15 DaemonFC; Tobin was a real head case.
02:15 TR News; HTTP request smuggling bug patched in HAProxy https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/http-request-smuggling-bug-patched-in-haproxy
02:15 TR Bot; HTTP request smuggling bug patched in HAProxy | The Daily Swig
02:15 DaemonFC; Even MC eventually got rid of him.
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; mc?
02:16 TR News; Named Booleans prevent C++ bugs and save you time https://raymii.org/s/blog/Named_Booleans_prevent_bugs.html
02:16 TR Bot; Booleans prevent C++ bugs and save you time - Raymii.org
02:16 TR News; Right of Access to Court Records Applies Even Absent Any Current "Substantial Public Interest in This Case" https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/17/right-of-access-to-court-records-applies-even-absent-any-current-substantial-public-interest-in-this-case/
02:16 TR Bot; Right of Access to Court Records Applies Even Absent Any Current "Substantial Public Interest in This Case"
02:16 TR News; Public University Committee Members' Names Aren't Protected by the Right of Expressive Association https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/17/public-university-committee-members-names-arent-protected-by-the-right-of-expressive-association/
02:16 TR Bot; Public University Committee Members' Names Aren't Protected by the Right of Expressive Association
02:17 TR News; Rupert Murdoch Called Trump's Stolen-Election Fantasy 'Really Crazy Stuff.' Fox News Promoted It Anyway. https://reason.com/2023/02/17/rupert-murdoch-called-trumps-stolen-election-fantasy-really-crazy-stuff-fox-news-promoted-it-anyway/
02:17 TR Bot; While Fox News Promoted Trump's Election Lies, Rupert Murdoch Called Them 'Crazy'
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: https://rubenerd.com/caught-covid/
02:18 TR Bot; Caught Covid
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; same as you
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; similar age too
02:19 TR News; Amazon will ask employees to spend at least three days a week in the office https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/17/amazon-will-ask-employees-spend-least-three-days-week-office/
02:19 TR Bot; will ask employees to spend at least three days a week in the office - SiliconANGLE
02:19 TR News; siliconangle conflating search with chatbot in ANOTHER piece of Microsoft SPAM
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 TR News; "orchestrating a multibillion-dollar crypto asset securities fraud" https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/17/sec-charges-kwon-terraform-labs-fraud-collapse-terrausd/
02:20 TR Bot; charges Do Kwon, Terraform Labs with fraud over the collapse of TerraUSD - SiliconANGLE
02:21 TR News; Publishers that continue to post spam for Microsoft (to help distract from MICROSOFT LAYOFFS) discredit themselves.
02:22 TR News; Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/16/latest-updates-stanford-president-under-investigation-for-research-misconduct/
02:22 TR Bot; Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct
02:23 TR News; What my failed sell-out attempts have taught me https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/15/what-my-failed-sell-out-attempts-have-taught-me/
02:23 TR Bot; What my failed sell-out attempts have taught me
02:24 morena; oh shit covidmaniac
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; ruben?
02:27 morena; you
02:36 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
02:36 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
02:36 DaemonFC; The man in Texas who invented the "sue everyone over abortion" law is targeting public libraries now.
02:36 DaemonFC; In his new draft, anyone who doesn't like a library book in Texas can sue.
02:36 DaemonFC; This is how the far-right terrorists win. They make it impossible to run a library because everyone is suing everyone else over every book, then it shuts down and children can't read.
02:36 DaemonFC; Libraries are a very Marxist concept and it's a wonder how conservatives and copyright promoters have allowed them to go on this long.
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170223.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170223.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170223.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170223.txt
02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 17, 2023
02:42 TR News; Links 17/02/2023: More Linux Phones and GNU Lightning 2.2.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/gnu-lightning-2-2-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/02/17/gnu-lightning-2-2-1/
02:42 TR Bot; Links 17/02/2023: More Linux Phones and GNU Lightning 2.2.1 | Techrights
02:42 morena; I tried to save you ;/
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170223.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170223.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-170223.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-170223.txt
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02:44 morena; "advertising" here rolling faster than in google
02:44 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi
02:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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02:45 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 17, 2023
02:45 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.gmi
02:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers
02:45 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
02:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
02:45 TR News; (NEW): Debian Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_Leftovers.gmi
02:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian Leftovers
02:45 TR News; (NEW): Fedora Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Fedora_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Fedora_Leftovers.gmi
02:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Leftovers
02:45 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.gmi
02:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
02:49 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-02-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-02-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:55 TR News; Writing efficient for loops in Bash: Tips and Tricks https://tecadmin.net/writing-efficient-for-loops-in-bash/
02:55 TR Bot; Writing efficient for loops in Bash: Tips and Tricks TecAdmin
02:56 TR News; A Beginners Guide to Installing TensorFlow on Ubuntu https://tecadmin.net/installing-tensorflow-on-ubuntu/
02:56 TR Bot; A Beginner's Guide to Installing TensorFlow on Ubuntu
02:57 TR News; How to Install the latest OpenSSL version on Debian 11 https://unixcop.com/install-latest-openssl-version-debian-11/
02:57 TR Bot; How to Install the latest OpenSSL version on Debian 11 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:00 TR News; CISA Releases Fifteen Industrial [Proprietary!] Control Systems Advisories https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2023/02/16/cisa-releases-fifteen-industrial-control-systems-advisories
03:00 TR Bot; CISA Releases Fifteen Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
03:00 TR News; Cacti flaw actively exploited https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2023/02/16/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog
03:01 TR Bot; CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
03:01 TR News; "A remote attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2023/02/16/cisco-releases-security-advisories-multiple-products
03:01 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Advisories for Multiple Products | CISA
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03:03 TR News; "After almost 14 years, a new major version of syslog-ng is available. Type support for name-value pairs is now available and Python support received major improvements." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-syslog-ng-insider-2023-02-4-0-azure-101-freebsd
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03:05 DaemonFC; MinceR, schestowitz[TR] I still haven't owned a car with Gasoline Direct Inject.
03:06 MinceR; i have one
03:06 DaemonFC; I was planning to hold off on that until there was no other choice.
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; what are the downsides?
03:06 DaemonFC; Serious problems from carbon fouling are much harder to arrive at with MPFI/SFI.
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; ime, it gets worse over time
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; we used to actually get serviced at the station
03:07 MinceR; it also sounds worse (clicky noise)
03:07 MinceR; (at least when idling)
03:07 schestowitz[TR]; i didn't have tto bother with the oil-soaked handles
03:07 DaemonFC; The direct spray pattern leads to more accumulation of carbon deposits in the combustion chamber.
03:07 schestowitz[TR]; and I paid cash
03:07 DaemonFC; Then you get knocking and pinging and paying mechanics to tear the engine up and blast it out.
03:07 MinceR; afaik it's more that with port injection, the carbon fouling would get washed off
03:07 DaemonFC; Yes.
03:07 MinceR; but with direct injection, the gasoline doesn't get to that part at all
03:07 MinceR; Toyota has something that does both for both advantages
03:08 DaemonFC; Because of the port injection, the gasoline (in liquid state) actually cleans up its own deposits to some extent.
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; so the engines too get worse, still?
03:08 DaemonFC; Yep!
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; undere the guise of..?
03:08 MinceR; yeah
03:08 DaemonFC; Better power and fuel economy with GDI, until it gets crapped up.
03:08 MinceR; Toyota isn't even selling Land Cruisers anymore with V8-s
03:08 DaemonFC; Then you're shelling out repair money to deal with carbon fouling.
03:08 MinceR; they have a twin turbo V6 instead, which is, according to Scotty, less reliable
03:08 MinceR; which is a disgrace
03:08 schestowitz[TR]; meh
03:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], If you get a GDI, I'd recommend buying Techron in bulk.
03:09 MinceR; but i suspect they couldn't avoid it due to government interference
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: say I bought a car this weekend
03:09 DaemonFC; Tossing it in every 3-4 tanks and running that tank down before refilling.
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; I assume it would have to be "modern"
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; and cost a lot
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; how long will it last?
03:09 MinceR; depends
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; and how much to service/maintain?
03:09 DaemonFC; Depends on a lot of things, including the brand.
03:09 MinceR; a BMW will probably burn down in less than 3 years
03:09 DaemonFC; Honda still makes good cars.
03:09 MinceR; i suspect a Toyota could still keep going for 20 years
03:09 DaemonFC; But the good or decent car company list has gotten down to Honda nad Toyota.
03:10 DaemonFC; *and
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; only 20 years?
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; and then junkyard?
03:10 MinceR; not sure
03:10 DaemonFC; The Buick still runs.
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; rianne's dad still ride a car nearly 30 years old
03:10 MinceR; i don't know the full history of my Carina which didn't work so well after 20 years
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; *rides
03:10 DaemonFC; It needed a lot of attention though.
03:10 DaemonFC; Including a brake overhaul including the ABS parts.
03:10 MinceR; yeah, i don't really feel like giving a car a lot of attention
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; that's what scares me
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; I can afford any car
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; atm
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; but they take up a ton of time and moneyh
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; paperwork and cleaning alone can be an hour per week
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; not counting all the other stuf
03:11 DaemonFC; I went to flush out the radiator and ended up with no heat.
03:11 DaemonFC; Because there was so much crap that it plugged the heater core.
03:12 morena; ye, that was the main issue when I had a car
03:12 DaemonFC; Then there was shit floating around in the overflow tank already again!
03:12 DaemonFC; So I had to have the dealership do a Blue Devil procedure on it.
03:12 morena; too much time, money, energy spent on fucking car
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; they shoiuld make cars very simple
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; like bicycle
03:12 DaemonFC; To dissolve the gunk in acid and then flush it with water a few times and put in new coolant.
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; I can prepare and repair a bike fast
03:12 DaemonFC; It's still nice and orange.
03:12 schestowitz[TR]; no "take is back from the garage"
03:12 DaemonFC; Blue Devil must be good stuff.
03:13 MinceR; well, BEVs can be very simple
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; in 2013-2023 i only needed bike serviced once
03:13 MinceR; but the battery technology is questionable
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; that involved me taking out the shweel
03:13 DaemonFC; They make a head gasket sealer compound too.
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; and bringing it in to a shop to replace the inner tube on the spot
03:13 MinceR; i doubt there's an internal combustion engine that is itself not a lot more complex than an entire bike
03:13 DaemonFC; Head gaskets are so expensive to do right that a lot of people turn to mechanic in a bottle shit to spackle over what's left of the one that's still in there.
03:13 MinceR; (human-powered bike, that is)
03:13 DaemonFC; With any luck it'll hold up for several years and you might be done with the car anyway.
03:14 MinceR; i doubt even a BEV can be as simple as a human-powered bicycle
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; you alsoi don't get parking tickets for a bike
03:14 DaemonFC; You can get tickets regarding a bike.
03:14 MinceR; you also get killed much more easily on a bike
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; but the point is, mechanical cars are easier to repair
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; and modular
03:14 MinceR; what is a "mechanical car"?
03:14 DaemonFC; $500 for riding it on the sidewalk to get away from the Mexicans with no insurance that hit and run.
03:14 DaemonFC; :)
03:14 schestowitz[TR]; no electric
03:14 DaemonFC; Mmmmm, decisions decisions.
03:15 DaemonFC; Am I right, MinceR?
03:15 MinceR; not sure about the reliability of those
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; headlighyts - modular
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; headlights
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; you come to the store
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; "sir, i need a pair of new headlights
03:15 MinceR; wait, no electric or just no electronic?
03:15 MinceR; i'm not sure how you can get a non-electric ignition system
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; takes headlights out of box, replaces existing ones
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: modular battery
03:15 MinceR; but even if it's supposed to be non-electronic, that would have plenty of moving parts that cause unreliability
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; for lights
03:16 schestowitz[TR]; engine is not electronic anyhow
03:16 MinceR; the engine control unit is electronic
03:16 schestowitz[TR]; and proprietary
03:16 morena; like old cards
03:16 morena; cars
03:16 MinceR; ignition control that doesn't rely on a spinning contact in a box to make your spark plugs work is also electronic
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; they car make cars you can repair at home
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; or buy poarts for
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; in ebay
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; even second hand
03:17 MinceR; depends very much on the part supply
03:17 MinceR; which is running out
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; that won't happen
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; they pass laws to even ban repairing your own car
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; it's a fucking price-fixing cartel
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; for 4 four 'sofa' seats in a chasis they charge over 20,000 pounds
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; because it comes with 6 glass winders, 2 side mirrors, an engine and some 3 mm laywer os allow/tin
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; *alloy
03:18 MinceR; also, i'm not sure if you really want to do all the things manually that would be controlled by the ECU
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; they can do the MOT
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; check the car runs ok
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; once a year
03:19 morena; but still
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; the components can be good
03:19 morena; the main issue is traveling
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; and you get to choose them
03:19 morena; which is waste for no reason
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; let's face is, when you buy xar x it's not all x
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; they get components
03:19 MinceR; adjusting ignition timing, adjusting the amount of fuel you let through while idling
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; like an engine of a "lesser" mercedes
03:19 MinceR; (you'd have a carburetor since ignition systems are electronic...)
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; made in some eastern european mercedes factory
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; and branded for various other car "brands"
03:20 MinceR; s/ignition/injection/
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03:20 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: so youu sell these as a module
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; and swap that out
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; or ship it to servicers
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; but the cars are not modular
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; so you need to haul the entire car
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; and get charges an arm and leg
03:21 schestowitz[TR]; esp. if the garage is "branded"
03:21 schestowitz[TR]; glorified like "BMW"
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; you can EASILY waste $10k PER YEAR on a car
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; and that's not all. the time spent is another component
03:22 MinceR; easy, don't buy a german car
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; if your time is "worth money", add another 1-2k per year on top
03:22 morena; country does not matter now?
03:22 morena; it's all big corpos worldwide
03:22 morena; not matter where they have factories
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; many cars use german components
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; not even made in germany
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; some even use mirrors of another brand
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't tell you thatg
03:23 MinceR; that's fine, some of their components are fine
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; you're meant to think of it as "integrated" experience"
03:23 MinceR; it's just that when they design a car, they go "hold my beer"
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; remember how much cars cost in the 90s?
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; I still remember
03:23 MinceR; and they stack up all the complications they can think of, just to flex
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; the prices seem to have quadrupled since
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; also for fixing stuff
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; and the cars barely improved
03:24 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr53h0hv8hI
03:24 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=kr53h0hv8hI
03:24 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | How to Start and Drive 1928 Ford Model A Tudor Sedan - Invidious
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; you could buy a laptop
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; put that inside an old car
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; voila! "modern" car
03:24 morena; ye
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; and you can easily repair the laptop
03:24 schestowitz[TR]; you can even - gasp- take it from the car home
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; and load some extra songs on it or whatnot
03:25 MinceR; in that video, you can see how tricky it is just to start a simple car without electronics :>
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; howw about cars with batteries?
03:25 MinceR; this one apparently has an electric starter though
03:25 schestowitz[TR]; the chemistry in the batteries is just an energy source
03:25 MinceR; you could even have one that doesn't
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; like kids' toy cars
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; you could make a one-person car that weighs like 500KG
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; electric
03:26 schestowitz[TR]; fortified kids' car
03:26 MinceR; and would disintegrate in a light collision :>
03:26 morena; ;/
03:26 MinceR; remember, the streets are full of functionally blind people in large cars
03:27 schestowitz[TR]; because you share a road with savages
03:27 MinceR; indeed
03:27 schestowitz[TR]; like budapestian taxi drivers
03:27 MinceR; yeah, the taxi drivers are some of the most dangerous ones
03:27 schestowitz[TR]; tthey "own" the road
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; and roll down the window to shout at people
03:28 MinceR; and slalom between lanes
03:28 MinceR; including lanes that don't even go the same way
03:28 TR News; News Roundup: Deliberate Lies https://www.americanoversight.org/news-roundup-deliberate-lies
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03:29 TR News; In the Documents: Emails Between Pennsylvanias Butler County Commissioners and Prominent Election Denial Group https://www.americanoversight.org/in-the-documents-emails-between-pennsylvanias-butler-county-commissioners-and-prominent-election-denial-group
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03:29 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: yeah, that kills good drivers
03:29 schestowitz[TR]; head on
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; some people value only their own life
03:30 DaemonFC; https://i.redd.it/1rc9ni2d8uia1.jpg
03:30 MinceR; some people don't even value their own life
03:30 DaemonFC; I don't.
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: lol
03:30 DaemonFC; I'm alive because of guilt.
03:30 MinceR; i'm alive because of inertia
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that makes a stigma though
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; probably some racist trumpsters spread this
03:31 MinceR; stigmas are easy to come across
03:31 DaemonFC; If I shot myself, who would take care of Mandy? Do you think anyone who blows $100 in the Apple store when you're not watching is going to pay their rent?
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; i'm alive because my heart pulsates :-)
03:32 MinceR; one of the most popular human pastimes: finding reasons to look down on other people
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; technically
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ego
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: "commies" use doordash?
03:32 MinceR; also dealing with one's own inadequacy and misfortune
03:32 MinceR; "well, at least my skin isn't dark..."
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; to the trump voters, anything that's not trust is communist russia
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; but trump was the one shaking hands with putler
03:33 MinceR; "well, at least i'm male and have no gender dysphoria..."
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; AFTER he had invaded crimea
03:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mom, who hasn't seen this, was talking about younger people where she works using Doordash every day when there's restaurants across the street.
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; class signalling
03:33 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: also, you're going to be less safe in a car without ABS
03:33 DaemonFC; She said she's looked at Doordash and Uber Eats and even though they say $0 delivery, they always add fees and stuff or the menu items are all more expensive.
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile we buy foods 90% off original price
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; and don't worry what "friends" "might think"
03:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], We eat out quite a bit but I've never used Uber Eats. I used Doordash once.
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: smaller cars would help
03:34 DaemonFC; My chicken arrived cold but I didn't complain because the lady was driving a rustbucket and had her kids in the back seat.
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; in case of collisoopn
03:34 MinceR; doubtful
03:34 DaemonFC; I just never used Doordash again and removed it from my phone.
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; cars became far too heavy and tall
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; it kills a lot of people
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; *collision
03:35 MinceR; with ABS you have a better chance of _avoiding_ a collision
03:35 MinceR; in some cases
03:35 schestowitz[TR]; it also creates more blind spots for drivers
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: people ought to learn how to cook
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; you can make lots of food
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; in one go
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; in a home with multiple people it pays off more
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; though deliveries get cheaper per unit... in quantity
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; but it's not so much the laziness
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; but the "class" thing
03:36 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0imK2TaNUk
03:36 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=z0imK2TaNUk
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; people sit in restaurants and get "served"
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03:37 schestowitz[TR]; then they want to have everything delivered warm
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; in cardboard boxes
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; they would be better off putting something inside the oven at home
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; also better for the environment
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; less travel, less materials
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: the people who spread such a 'meme' probably have no student loan
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; because they never went to college
03:42 TR News; "He also notes the lack of transparency on the part of the NIH in the work they were minimally funding in the Wuhan Institute of Virology" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/insight-impact/in-the-news/metzl-on-fox-news-discussing-the-need-to-investigate-the-origins-of-covid/
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03:45 TR News; Control 8 relays with the Raspberry Pi Pico using PicoRelay8 or Pico-Relay-B https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/02/16/control-8-relays-with-the-raspberry-pi-pico-using-picorelay8-or-pico-relay-b/
03:45 TR Bot; Control 8 relays with the Raspberry Pi Pico using PicoRelay8 or Pico-Relay-B - CNX Software
03:46 TR News; Wikimedia wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Heres whats at stake. https://cyberscoop.com/wikimedia-nsa-supreme-court-surveillance/
03:46 TR Bot; wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Here's what's at stake. | CyberScoop
03:46 TR News; FBI says cyber incident at New York field office contained https://cyberscoop.com/fbi-new-york-cyberattack/
03:46 TR Bot; says cyber incident at New York field office contained | CyberScoop
03:48 TR News; After apparent hack, data from Australian tech giant Atlassian dumped online https://cyberscoop.com/atlassian-hack-employee-data-seigedsec/
03:48 TR Bot; apparent hack, data from Australian tech giant Atlassian dumped online | CyberScoop
03:48 TR News; US government launches strike force to combat Chinese and Russian technology threats https://cyberscoop.com/justice-department-commerce-strike-force-cfius-china-russia/ Microsoft Windows needs to be culled
03:48 TR Bot; government launches 'strike force' to combat Chinese and Russian technology threats | CyberScoop
03:48 TR News; Hacks, leaks and wipers: Google analyzes a year of Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine https://cyberscoop.com/hacks-leaks-and-wipers-google-analyzes-a-year-of-russian-cyberattacks-on-ukraine/ And again, Microsoft Windows needs to be culled
03:48 TR Bot; leaks and wipers: Google analyzes a year of Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine | CyberScoop
03:57 TR News; Sweetwater schools internet outage disrupts student learning and could last all week https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2023-02-16/sweetwater-schools-systems-outage-week
03:57 TR Bot; Sweetwater schools systems outage expected to last all week - The San Diego Union-Tribune
03:58 TR News; FBI got pwn3d: "FBI officials believe the incident involved an FBI computer system used in investigations of images of child sexual exploitation, two sources briefed on the matter told CNN." https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/17/politics/fbi-cyber-incident-computer-network/index.html
03:58 TR Bot; FBI says it has 'contained' cyber incident on bureau's computer network | CNN Politics
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03:59 TR News; "After the data breach was discovered on Friday, an investigation into the matter found that several passwords belonging to Grade 7 students in the district had been posted to a shared Google Classroom during the 2020-2021 school year. After this document was found, it was immediately removed." https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/mountpleasant/schools/data-breach-reported-at-mount-pleasant-central-school-district/856998/
03:59 TR Bot; Data Breach Reported At Mount Pleasant Central School District | Mount Pleasant Daily Voice
04:00 TR News; GoDaddy got cracked and kept quiet about it https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/godaddy-hackers-stole-source-code-installed-malware-in-multi-year-breach/
04:00 TR Bot; GoDaddy: Hackers stole source code, installed malware in multi-year breach
04:01 TR News; BD issues cybersecurity alert for hacking risk found in Alaris infusion pump software https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/bd-issues-cybersecurity-alert-hacking-risk-found-alaris-infusion-pump-software Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/bd-issues-cybersecurity-alert-hacking-risk-found-alaris-infusion-pump-software
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04:02 TR News; "Spains National Court has agreed to the extradition to the U.S. of a British citizen who allegedly took part in computer attacks including the hacking in 2020 of Twitter accounts of public figures such as Joseph Biden, Barack Obama and [Famous Criminal] Bill Gates" https://thepublicsradio.org/article/spain-orders-extradition-of-british-alleged-hacker-to-us
04:02 TR Bot; Spain orders extradition of British alleged hacker to U.S.
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04:09 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: the people who spread such a 'meme' probably have no student loan
04:09 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> because they never went to college
04:10 DaemonFC; Back to the movie (true story) I was watching last night.
04:10 DaemonFC; The first victim got into the guy's car because she was trying to get to court on time to save her child from Ohio Social Services.
04:10 DaemonFC; They took the kid away because her boyfriend hit him, and she relied on the boyfriend for financial reasons because she had no High School Diploma.
04:11 DaemonFC; The movie showed her trying to get a job at a laundromat but they wouldn't hire her because of not having the HSD.
04:11 MinceR; Hybrid Synergy Drive?
04:11 MinceR; oh, High School Diploma.
04:11 DaemonFC; So indirectly, she became the first victim of Ariel Castro and lost her son because of not passing high school.
04:11 TR News; Layoffs Hit Motown Records Amidst Capitol Music Group Restructuring https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/layoffs-hit-motown-records-amidst-capitol-music-group-restructuring/
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04:11 DaemonFC; I fail to see why you would need high school to fold laundry and count out small change at a laundromat.
04:12 DaemonFC; It's just another way shit rolls downhill.
04:12 TR News; Streaming = YOU OWN NOTHING! You're a slave of some evil company https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/spotify-music-listeners-us-report/
04:12 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/spotify-music-listeners-us-report/ )
04:12 DaemonFC; The person running the business has a college degree, so everyone under her will have a High School Diploma, even though you can fold clothes and count out change and iron things without one.
04:12 DaemonFC; It's all about power and control.
04:12 TR News; ARIA Fires Back Against TikToks Song Restrictions in Australia: An Attempt to Downplay the Significance of Music https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/tiktok-australia-test-pushback/
04:12 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/tiktok-australia-test-pushback/ )
04:13 TR News; Top Justice Department Official Advises Against Using TikTok: We Need to Be Very Concerned https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/tiktok-justice-department-comments/
04:13 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/tiktok-justice-department-comments/ )
04:14 DaemonFC; The next person who walks in might have passed high school and end up being the WORST employee you've ever had.
04:14 DaemonFC; While the one that you turned away might never have even taken a sick day.
04:14 TR News; MAYBE YouTube will even make money one day.... https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki-stepping-down/
04:14 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki-stepping-down/ )
04:15 DaemonFC; High School doesn't mean shit these days.
04:15 DaemonFC; It really doesn't.
04:15 TR News; Roblox Reports Nearly $1 Billion Net Loss in 2022 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/
04:15 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ )
04:15 DaemonFC; I lied to get my GED and said I dropped out when I was 16, but honestly I didn't.
04:15 DaemonFC; It was all fucking around and not even going to school after about 15 or so.
04:15 DaemonFC; The truancy officer was about to take my parents to court.
04:15 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: many companies operate at a loss
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; this is FakeEconomy as I call it.
04:16 DaemonFC; Then I take a test in half the allotted time and do great on it and bam!
04:16 DaemonFC; GED.
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; it grows... in debt
04:17 DaemonFC; The score I got on the GED proves that I knew at least as much as someone who graduated high school with about an A- in everything but math and a B+ in 1989.
04:17 DaemonFC; So, not bad for someone who skipped three years.
04:17 TR News; HTML phishing attachment with browser-in-the-browser technique, (Thu, Feb 16th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29556
04:17 DaemonFC; There are a lot of people floating around out there that are a lot dumber than me.
04:17 TR Bot; InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
04:17 DaemonFC; And many of them have student loans and no career.
04:18 DaemonFC; Because they let someone talk them into spending $40,000 plus interest to study political science or something.
04:18 morena; if company want be profitable most of the time it has scam people
04:18 morena; or do some harmful things
04:18 TR News; Companies that suck and hire bad people won't appreciate any of the work of the good people. That latter group, the good people, would sooner or later give up on contributing anything. Some would also leave.
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; morena: usually
04:18 DaemonFC; I mean, who wants a degree in something where, at best, they float from city to city working for the local mayor's campaign every now and then?
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; or overcharge clients
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; like charge them a lot for a simple job
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; by lying to them
04:19 morena; ye
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; honest people can compensate for it
04:19 morena; bc. all other scam around, you can't survive usually if you do it like a human
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; by quantity
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; they will get people returning
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; and paying little at a time
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 morena; whole clown world is build on shit
04:20 TR News; Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/two-ways-us-patent-office-could-do-better-examination
04:20 TR Bot; Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination | Electronic Frontier Foundation
04:21 TR News; engadget still behaving like a Microsoft SPAM ENGINE. Skipping!
04:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, most people running a company have no idea what anyone there really does.
04:22 DaemonFC; Google has so many employees it's like the population of a decent sized city.
04:22 DaemonFC; It becomes unmanageable. People burrow into large organizations and hide.
04:23 TR News; And why is this news? It's NOT news, it's SPAM - typical media in 2023. "Writing" or "reposting" (or computer-generated "content") what PAYS, not what's actually important and relevant.
04:23 morena; more managers and bosses then workers ;/
04:23 morena; everyone filling excell sheets
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; bosses to boss the bosses
04:23 morena; for somebody above
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; who are bossed by "executives"
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; who do nothing all day
04:24 morena; and asking for it from somebody bellow ;/
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; hire PR people to be bossed
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; to draft "statements" for the "executives"
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; then pushed into corrupt media
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; accounting will bribe the media
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; marketing department will write the 'article'
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; "we are GREEN DIVERSE OMG!! WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY BUT HIRE NOBODY HERE;0:"
04:25 morena; and new gamechanger - features out of microsoft is born ;/
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source
04:25 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source - Techrights
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/
04:25 TR Bot; [Meme] Almost Nothing Gets Done at the Office (Management Pretending to be Busy) | Techrights
04:26 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/
04:26 morena; also hirring now it's like take one cripple, one trans, one black, one ukrainian no matter they can't do shit
04:27 TR News; Oh, crap! It's worse. Engadget has become almost a LITERAL spam farm (add a pig or kaban). A lot of the links are fake. They're spam too. The site only runs some skeleton crew, much like CNET...
04:28 TR News; Engadget: ignore all the shopping.yahoo.com linkfarming/spamfarming, we still pretend to be a news site!
04:29 morena; oh spam
04:29 morena; good that you mentioned it
04:29 TR News; engadget is DONE! Stick a fork in it. Spamfarming, posting SPAM for Microsoft (obviously paid-for hype campaign). Not much reporting left.
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; morena: you called the above "spam"
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; just because you didntt fancy it
04:31 TR News; Ubuntu Security: Best practices for securing your system https://www.fosslinux.com/100675/ubuntu-security-best-practices-for-securing-your-system.htm
04:31 TR Bot; Ubuntu Security: Best Practices for Securing Your System
04:32 TR News; Engadget is STILL posting Microsoft spam. Maybe time for a boycott then. Not much of value left there...
04:33 TR News; Bulgarian police find 18 people dead in abandoned truck carrying migrants https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230217-bulgarian-police-find-18-people-dead-in-abandoned-truck-carrying-migrants
04:34 TR Bot; Bulgarian police find 18 people dead in abandoned truck carrying migrants
04:35 morena; schestowitz[TR]: ye spaming main channel with 1000 links in day is spam ;/
04:35 TR News; Nigeria: Protests at banks and ATMs break out amid cash scarcity concerns https://observers.france24.com/en/africa/20230217-nigeria-naira-cash-scarcity-protests-banks-election
04:35 TR Bot; Nigeria: Protests at banks and ATMs break out amid cash scarcity concerns
04:35 morena; but it's your choice to kick out any user who want to talk here
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; morena: no, 100-200
04:35 morena; oh only
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; we don't kickm out people
04:36 morena; who will survive that links invade?
04:36 morena; people usually come to irc talk
04:36 morena; not for rss feed
04:37 morena; and if some idiot sometime want that, he usually make #channel-news
04:37 morena; where bot spam crap
04:37 morena; nobody is interested in it
04:38 morena; but it's there for sake of it
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; look, you've come to a 15-y-o network/channel
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; and you make complaints
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; seeing who will come and who will leave
04:38 morena; 15 year old?
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; you were here less than 2 days
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; yes, this goes back to 2008
04:38 morena; and still 4 users with 25 nicks?
04:38 morena; that's probably the reason
04:38 morena; that spam I mentioned ;/
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; you measure the wrong thing
04:39 morena; so I come as light ;/
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; and you have no irc network of your own
04:40 morena; so after 15 years you was enlightened
04:40 morena; by 2 days user
04:40 morena; use your free will and best of you now ;/
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; you barely enlightened me on anything
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; you reject vaccines
04:41 morena; of course
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; saying they attack bodies
04:41 morena; I am not an brainwashed idiot
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; ok, whateva'
04:41 morena; ye
04:41 TR News; Hong Kong govt deregisters pro-democracy union that called for protest ahead of security law https://hongkongfp.com/2023/02/17/hong-kong-govt-deregisters-pro-democracy-union-that-called-for-protest-ahead-of-security-law/
04:41 TR Bot; Hong Kong gov't deregisters pro-democracy union that called for protest ahead of security law - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
04:42 TR News; January arrivals in Hong Kong just 7 per cent of 2019 figures https://hongkongfp.com/2023/02/17/january-arrivals-in-hong-kong-just-7-per-cent-of-2019-figures/
04:42 TR Bot; January arrivals in Hong Kong just 7 per cent of 2019 figures - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
04:45 TR News; US Senator Calls for Human Rights Defender Visa Category https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/17/us-senator-calls-human-rights-defender-visa-category
04:45 TR Bot; US Senator Calls for Human Rights Defender Visa Category | Human Rights Watch
04:48 TR News; This will compel companies to hire even fewer women https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/spain-approves-first-menstrual-leave-law-in-europe/
04:48 TR Bot; Spain approves first menstrual leave law in Europe - JURIST - News
04:50 TR News; German constitutional court declares police use of automated data analysis unconstitutional https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/german-constitutional-court-declares-police-use-of-automated-data-analysis-unconstitutional/
04:50 TR Bot; German constitutional court declares police use of automated data analysis unconstitutional - JURIST - News
04:55 TR News; How to Install and Use NeoVim [Vim-based] Text Editor https://www.linuxshelltips.com/neovim-text-editor/
04:55 TR Bot; How to Install and Use NeoVim As an IDE for Developers
04:55 TR News; How to Install Ubuntu 22.04 LTS {Step by Step} with Screenshots https://www.linuxteck.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-22-04-lts-step-by-step/
04:55 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxteck.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-22-04-lts-step-by-step/ )
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:06 DaemonFC; Student loans. Like Al Bundy's car.
05:06 DaemonFC; No gas, no upholstery, and six more payments.
05:09 TR News; (NEW): LibreOffice, SamNet Vinterkonferensen, OSI Still Selling Out to Microsofters, and FOSS Weekly is Out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/LibreOffice_SamNet_Vinterkonferensen_OSI_Still_Selling_Out_to_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/LibreOffice_SamNet_Vinterkonferensen_OSI_Still_Selling_Out_to_M.gmi
05:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice, SamNet Vinterkonferensen, OSI Still Selling Out to Microsofters, and FOSS Weekly is Out
05:09 TR News; (NEW): Clonezilla Stable 3.0.3-22 supports multiple LUKS devices, Linux Kernel 6.1.11-1, and more http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/y.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/y.gmi
05:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Clonezilla Stable 3.0.3-22 supports multiple LUKS devices, Linux Kernel 6.1.11-1, and more
05:09 TR News; (NEW): The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/The_Best_Terminal_Emulators_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/The_Best_Terminal_Emulators_for_Linux.gmi
05:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux
05:11 TR News; privacy abuse in media https://michaelwest.com.au/higgins-claims-diary-details-leaked-to-the-media/
05:11 TR Bot; Higgins claims diary details leaked to the media - Michael West
05:12 TR News; Savers need to keep pressure on banks: RBA https://michaelwest.com.au/savers-need-to-keep-pressure-on-banks-rba/
05:12 TR Bot; Savers need to keep pressure on banks: RBA - Michael West
05:18 TR News; "Today I was looking at my system logs and happened to notice that I didn't rotate my gemlog this year. A while ago I made it so the index file only shows entries from the current year in order to prevent the index from becoming too long." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202302180804.gmi
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:20 TR News; "This is the ninth in a planned series of posts (well, tenth if you count the announcement) where I'll share my experience writing smolver, my Gemini server software, written in Swift." gemini://ainent.xyz/devlog/smolver/2023-02-17-smolver-development-log-part-9.gmi
05:24 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
05:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
05:29 TR News; Still growing: "There are 3141 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 2318 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
05:31 TR News; Dislosure absent. The author is paid by ICBM to constantly shill ICBM for over a decade already. https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/02/17/ibm-builds-an-ai-supercomputer-on-the-cheap-in-its-cloud/
05:31 TR Bot; IBM Builds An AI Supercomputer On The Cheap In Its Cloud
05:32 TR News; Many of today's press articles are, for all intents and purposes, just advertisements that aren't labelled as such
05:33 TR News; (NEW): This Past Week in GNOME and Sam Thursfield's Status Update http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_Past_Week_in_GNOME_and_Sam_Thursfield_s_Status_Update.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_Past_Week_in_GNOME_and_Sam_Thursfield_s_Status_Update.gmi
05:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines This Past Week in GNOME and Sam Thursfield's Status Update
05:33 TR News; (NEW): ucaresystem core 4.4.0, Croc, and Free/Libre FPS Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/ucaresystem_core_4_4_0_Croc_and_Free_Libre_FPS_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/ucaresystem_core_4_4_0_Croc_and_Free_Libre_FPS_Games.gmi
05:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines ucaresystem core 4.4.0, Croc, and Free/Libre FPS Games
05:34 TR News; PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-4254-released-2599/
05:34 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released
05:36 TR News; While BillBC (BBC) takes bribes from Bill Gates to advance its agenda and cover up his crime... instead of informing people who pay TV Licensing. https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/tim-davie-licence-fee/
05:36 TR Bot; Tim Davie licence fee comments met with fury in commercial sector
05:36 TR News; Channel 5 agrees second payout in a year over Cant Pay? Well Take it Away! https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/newspaper-corrections-media-mistakes-errors-legal/channel-5-second-payout-cant-pay-well-take-it-away/
05:36 TR Bot; Channel 5 agrees second payout in a year over 'Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away!'
05:37 TR News; RIGHTLY SO! Americans trust in news continues to decline, says new survey https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/americans-trust-in-news-continues-to-decline-says-new-survey/
05:37 TR Bot; Americans' trust in news falling: new survey
05:38 TR News; Certified Qt Safe Renderer 2.0 is released https://www.qt.io/blog/certified-qt-safe-renderer-2.0-is-released
05:38 TR Bot; Certified Qt Safe Renderer 2.0 is released
05:39 TR News; Make systemd better for Podman with Quadlet https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/quadlet-podman
05:39 TR Bot; Make systemd better for Podman with Quadlet | Enable Sysadmin
05:40 TR News; How to use new container events and auditing features in Podman 4.4 https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-container-events-auditing
05:40 TR Bot; How to use new container events and auditing features in Podman 4.4 | Enable Sysadmin
05:43 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/17/23604906/microsoft-bing-ai-chat-limits-conversations
05:43 TR Bot; Microsoft limits Bing chat to five replies to stop the AI from getting real weird - The Verge
05:43 DaemonFC; LOL
05:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
05:43 schestowitz[TR]; haha, it's expensive to run
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; and no business model
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; other than chaff/ads/spam
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; like they did this month when layoffs were raging
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; linked, azure, github
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs...
05:44 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI STFU STFU STFU!
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; so much hype for fuckign CHATBOTS
05:45 DaemonFC; No more than 50 questions per day. Or 5 in a session.
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; like it's the best thing since sliced bread and METAVERSE (VR)
05:45 DaemonFC; They have to wipe it after 5 so that it doesn't fall apart.
05:45 schestowitz[TR]; andf you need to log in and you give them evertything you type
05:46 schestowitz[TR]; privacy nightmare
05:47 TR News; Voice of Democracy seeks way to restore broadcast license https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/vod-reinstate-02172023163743.html
05:47 TR Bot; Voice of Democracy seeks way to restore broadcast license Radio Free Asia
05:48 DaemonFC; "Microsoft warned earlier this week that these longer chat sessions, with 15 or more questions, could make Bing become repetitive or be prompted / provoked to give responses that are not necessarily helpful or in line with our designed tone. Wiping a conversation after just five questions means the model wont get confused, says Microsoft."
05:49 DaemonFC; "Microsoft is still working to improve Bings tone, but its not immediately clear how long these limits will last. As we continue to get feedback, we will explore expanding the caps on chat sessions, says Microsoft, so this appears to be a limited cap for now."
05:49 DaemonFC; LOL
05:49 DaemonFC; They'll never fix it and the media and Microsoft will just reach a point where they don't talk about it again.
05:49 DaemonFC; "Bings chat function continues to see improvements on a daily basis, with technical issues being addressed and larger weekly drops of fixes to improve search and answers. Microsoft said earlier this week that it didnt fully envision people using its chat interface for social entertainment or as a tool for more general discovery of the world."
05:49 DaemonFC; Oh sure.
05:50 DaemonFC; Two weeks later, I'm still on the "wait list".
05:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Now it tells me....
05:50 DaemonFC; To get off the Wait List, download Microsoft Edge.
05:51 DaemonFC; I wonder if I can fool it with an Edge UA.
05:51 TR News; Defending against HEY HI Lobbyists https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/defending-against-ai-lobbyists.html
05:51 TR Bot; against AI Lobbyists - Schneier on Security
05:52 TR News; Replace/remove ProprietaryJunk from SAP https://www.suse.com/c/ransomware-attacks-part-4-sap-applications/
05:52 TR Bot; to protect your SAP applications from Ransomware attacks | SUSE Communities
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> To get off the Wait List, download Microsoft Edge.
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; what next, sextortion?
05:53 schestowitz[TR]; "to talk to shitGPT some more, upload a dick pic"
05:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yeah, UA for Edge 110 works.
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06:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I got it to say Microsoft harms society.
06:01 DaemonFC; Want a screenshot?
06:02 DaemonFC; https://i.postimg.cc/X463HTjT/Screenshot-from-2023-02-18-00-00-56.png
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06:11 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, thanks
06:12 DaemonFC; You can access it by spoofing your browser's user agent to say it's Edge.
06:12 DaemonFC; Including on Firefox.
06:12 DaemonFC; It's not very useful.
06:13 DaemonFC; The results are crap and they're mainly using it to get Edge on people's computers.
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: the second one is very saniitised
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; the first screenshot is mostly plagiarised
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; just some panguage model parsing an existing page or pages
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; and gets things wrong
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; better to:
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; link to the F* page
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; instead of trying to guess
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; Edge is a password stealer
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; so they use vapourware and hype to entice people to
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; -enter personal info
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; that microsoft then "owns"
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; as per the eula
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; -get brainwashed
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; -hand over lots of passwords
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; NSA <3 Edge
06:15 DaemonFC; Edge is already on every Windows system.
06:15 DaemonFC; But few people use it even there.
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; "microsoft harms society"... 50% for reasons to do with technobabble HEY HI
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; not even with substance
06:15 schestowitz[TR]; and self-censored BS
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; this is a propaganda model, not an alternative to a search engine
06:16 DaemonFC; It refuses to criticize Windows.
06:16 DaemonFC; It just says it's not comfortable continuing that conversation and it's still learning.
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; it says: LEARN MORE: MICROSOFT REDDIT.COM
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft--sponsored censorship machine as a source
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; about Techrights
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; which is gags, suppresses etc.
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; aaaanyway, truly rubbish "product"
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; way to distrtact the shareholders
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; as the core business dies off
06:17 schestowitz[TR]; including "the clown" (azure)
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; based on the screenshot, microsoft now has a section for "CHAT"
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; now "SEARCHG"
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; and yet the media conflates the two
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; and insinuates one replaces the other
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; that's BS
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; wolfram tried to pull this off more than a decade ago
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; it went nowhere
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; so now they issue more vapourware mentioning woldframd and this microsoft gimmick
06:18 schestowitz[TR]; to squeeze one brand to hype another
06:19 TR News; (NEW): More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.gmi
06:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman
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07:27 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/
07:27 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/ )
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08:19 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 17, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/02/18/irc-log-170223/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/02/18/irc-log-170223/
08:19 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 17, 2023 | Techrights
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:21 TR News; "As users interact with the bot, some have reported that it can be unreliable and exhibit traits such as obstinacy, mood swings, and irritability." https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: hence the hype
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; if they just rolled it out without hype
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; it would be a giant meh
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; and nobody would touch it again
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; i like cory doctorow's take on this
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; as if we're meant to replace actual search and actual web pages
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; with a f*ing chatbot
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; no way, jose
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; it did help secure the share price
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; shareholders thinking this is "the future"
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; while microsoft lays off so many in critical divisions
08:23 TR News; One City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/one-city-builder-games-tale-shows-just-how-wide-open-the-dmca-process-is-for-abuse/
08:23 TR Bot; City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse | Techdirt
08:26 TR News; MIT technology review propping up "meteverse" vapourware just days after posting a ton of spam for 'Microsoft India' and weeks after absolutely flooding the site with Microsoft's HEY HI SPAM. MIT technologyreview = MARKETING, not science!!! Sold out. Worthless!
08:27 TR News; CHAT BOT is NOT search!!!!!!!! https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/02/16/1068695/chatgpt-chatbot-battle-search-microsoft-bing-google/
08:27 TR Bot; The ChatGPT-fueled battle for search is bigger than Microsoft or Google | MIT Technology Review
08:29 TR News; When you have nothing meaningful to write, always fall back on HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI... OCEANS HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. WOWOWOWOWOWO! https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/02/chatgpt-introduces-subs-googles-bard-stumbles-on-launch-and-microsoft-teams-guns-for-zoom-with-ai-smarts-the-state-of-consumer-ai/
08:29 TR Bot; ChatGPT introduces subs, Google's Bard stumbles on launch and Microsoft Teams guns for ZOOM with AI smarts. The state of consumer AI - Techzim
08:32 TR News; France: Lower House Starts Last Day Of Debate On Pension Reform https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/France-Lower-House-Starts-Last-Day-Of-Debate-On-Pension-Reform-20230217-0006.html
08:32 TR Bot; France: Lower House Starts Last Day Of Debate On Pension Reform | News | teleSUR English
08:32 TR News; The US is World's Biggest Spy Power: Wang https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/The-US-is-Worlds-Biggest-Spy-Power-Wang-20230217-0005.html
08:32 TR Bot; The US is World's Biggest Spy Power: Wang | News | teleSUR English
08:34 TR News; French Workers Occupy Small Towns to Reject the Pension Reform https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/French-Workers-Occupy-Small-Towns-to-Reject-the-Pension-Reform-20230216-0005.html
08:34 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:50 TR News; Lenovo Eyes Job Cuts Due to Weakened PC Market https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-job-cuts-weak-pc-market
08:50 TR Bot; Lenovo Eyes Job Cuts Due to Weakened PC Market | Tom's Hardware
08:51 TR News; AMD's Ryzen Master Has a High Severity Vulnerability, Update Available https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-ryzen-master-has-a-high-severity-vulnerability-patch-available
08:51 TR Bot; AMD's Ryzen Master Has a High Severity Vulnerability, Update Available | Tom's Hardware
08:53 *psydruid fully supports the demise of Lenovo and AMD
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09:00 schestowitz[TR]; whoa; some banks here now give over 4% annually to savers in interest rates
09:00 schestowitz[TR]; never saw such high rates even before
09:00 schestowitz[TR]; inflation in action
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; borrowers must be suffering
09:01 schestowitz[TR]; mortgages and all
09:01 TR News; (NEW): This week in KDE: a smooth release of Plasma 5.27 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_week_in_KDE_a_smooth_release_of_Plasma_5_27.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_week_in_KDE_a_smooth_release_of_Plasma_5_27.gmi
09:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines This week in KDE: a smooth release of Plasma 5.27
09:02 TR News; (UPDATED): More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.gmi
09:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman
09:02 mjg59_; Mortgage rates are where they were in 2008
09:02 TR News; (NEW): TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/TuM_Fatig_Adding_variable_tiling_width_ratio_and_gaps_to_XFCE_x.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/TuM_Fatig_Adding_variable_tiling_width_ratio_and_gaps_to_XFCE_x.gmi
09:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4
09:03 mjg59_; In recent history, pre-2008 the only time they were lower was between 2002 and 2005
09:04 mjg59_; Savings account interest rates were also ~4% in 2008
09:04 mjg59_; So "never saw such high rates even before" is just untrue
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; prove it
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; 2008 did not have 4%
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; 4% is this month https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa
09:06 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa )
09:06 schestowitz[TR]; 2000 you'd struggle to see 3%
09:06 mjg59_; https://www.finder.com/uk/inflation-vs-savings
09:06 TR Bot; inflation rate vs savings account rates - Finder UK
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; pre-'online' banking
09:07 mjg59_; "2008: 5.09%"
09:11 mjg59_; Did I prove it?
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09:13 mjg59_; Guess I did
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; on mumble atm
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; did not check
09:19 TR News; $2,000 for Lower48 IP data arrangement patent prior art https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/2/16/2000-for-lower48-ip-data-arrangement-patent-prior-art
09:19 TR Bot; $2,000 for Lower48 IP data arrangement patent prior art Unified Patents
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09:21 TR News; Striking Workers Just Won a Historic Union Contract At Book Giant HarperCollins https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wxnwe4/striking-workers-just-won-historic-union-contract-harpercollins
09:21 TR Bot; Striking Workers Just Won a Historic Union Contract At Book Giant HarperCollins
09:22 TR News; Proprietary diselgate again; faking capability, killing people https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkg7ek/us-gov-says-tesla-self-driving-may-cause-crashes-issues-recall
09:22 TR Bot; US Gov Says Tesla Self-Driving May Cause Crashes, Issues Recall
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09:24 TR News; Turn your old laptop into a free Chromebook: how to install ChromeOS Flex https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-chromebook-how-to-install-chromeos-flex-for-free-aQSOD7r01Puw
09:24 TR Bot; Turn your old laptop into a Chromebook: how to install ChromeOS Flex for free - Which? News
09:25 TR News; Workers Under Attack (and How Fear is Leveraged to Suppress Unionising, Whistleblowing, Dissent) http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/video-suepo-microsoft-layoffs/
09:25 TR Bot; Workers Under Attack (and How Fear is Leveraged to Suppress Unionising, Whistleblowing, Dissent) | Techrights
09:26 TR News; Sirius Open Source Pensiongate (Sirius Financial Crisis): Company May Have Squandered/Plundered the Pensions of Many People http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/sirius-ponzi/
09:26 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source Pensiongate (Sirius Financial Crisis): Company May Have Squandered/Plundered the Pensions of Many People | Techrights
09:26 TR News; Who Will Assess the Performance of the Corrupt EPO? Nobody. Its Above Scrutiny. http://techrights.org/2023/02/16/lscth-on-performance-report/
09:26 TR Bot; Who Will Assess the Performance of the Corrupt EPO? Nobody. Its Above Scrutiny. | Techrights
09:26 TR News; Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives http://techrights.org/2023/02/16/microsoft-greenwashing-tactics/
09:26 TR Bot; Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives | Techrights
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09:28 TR News; TTAB Affirms Genericness Refusal of the Color Dark Green for Medical Examination Gloves http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/02/ttab-affirms-genericness-refusal-of.html
09:28 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTAB Affirms Genericness Refusal of the Color Dark Green for Medical Examination Gloves
09:28 TR News; TTAB Sustains Section 2(d) Opposition to RAMEN HOOD & Design for Asian-Themed Restaurant Services http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/02/ttab-sustains-section-2d-opposition-to.html
09:28 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTAB Sustains Section 2(d) Opposition to RAMEN HOOD & Design for Asian-Themed Restaurant Services
09:28 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You asked me to prove my claim, I presented evidence, you didn't check your argument?
09:30 TR News; (NEW): What does ChatGPT mean for the open source community http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/What_does_ChatGPT_mean_for_the_open_source_community.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/What_does_ChatGPT_mean_for_the_open_source_community.gmi
09:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines What does ChatGPT mean for the open source community
09:30 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.gmi
09:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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09:34 TR News; Milseading headline. UK cannot ratify. https://www.bristowsupc.com/news/breaking-news-upc-countdown-begins/
09:34 TR Bot; Breaking News: UPC Countdown Begins - Bristows UPC
09:34 TR News; UPC is an overt violation of the law; who are they to talk about conduct? They are criminals. https://www.bristowsupc.com/news/upc-code-of-conduct-for-representatives/
09:34 TR Bot; UPC Code of Conduct for representatives - Bristows UPC
09:37 TR News; Why ChatGPT Caused Microsoft Stock to Stumble Today https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/16/why-chatgpt-caused-microsoft-stock-to-stumble/
09:38 TR Bot; ChatGPT Caused Microsoft Stock to Stumble Today | The Motley Fool
09:39 TR News; And the shares fell. This is no Gulag killer. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602335/microsoft-bing-ai-testing-learnings-response
09:39 TR Bot; Microsoft says talking to Bing for too long can cause it to go off the rails - The Verge
09:40 TR News; Microsoft: February updates break some Windows Server 2022 VMs https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-february-updates-break-some-windows-server-2022-vms/
09:40 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-february-updates-break-some-windows-server-2022-vms/ )
09:43 TR News; Crackers "are deploying a new malware named 'Frebniss' on Microsoft's Internet Information Services (IIS) that stealthily executes commands sent via web requests." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-backdoor-microsoft-iis-servers-with-new-frebniis-malware/
09:43 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-backdoor-microsoft-iis-servers-with-new-frebniis-malware/ )
09:47 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
09:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
09:47 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Failures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Failures.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Failures.gmi
09:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Failures
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09:48 schestowitz[TR]; wb
09:48 Lantizia; o/
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; how was heart fs day?
09:48 Lantizia; crap
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; ah
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; fsf mentioned it
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; in the fsf blog
09:49 Lantizia; but only because it's silly running it on Valentines Day in the UK
09:49 Lantizia; at least we now get to say we won't do it any other year :)
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; it always insinuates geeks cannot have a love life
09:49 Lantizia; which was partly why I went along with it
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; and instead worship and get "hard" on code
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; which i thought was belittling
09:49 Lantizia; yes it does - I thought that
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; or self-harming
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; "oh, you poor baby, don't you have a g/f?"
09:50 schestowitz[TR]; "no, i love code"
09:50 Lantizia; in anglo/irish/american spheres it just doesn't work... but from what I hear on the continent they don't care about Valentines Day that much
09:51 Lantizia; but still - it's a silly choice of date
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; people forgot about the odf day
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; for years already
09:51 Lantizia; we got free pizza at least
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; document freedom day or whatever
09:51 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You didn't respond to me
09:51 Lantizia; or at least it will be free if they expense me :)
09:52 schestowitz[TR]; pizza is mosty wheat and water
09:52 Lantizia; you're mostly water :P
09:52 mjg59_; Pizza is largely flour and water, the flour doesn't need to be wheat-based
09:52 mjg59_; Why do you keep making confident assertions that just aren't true
09:53 Lantizia; this? https://www.documentfreedom.org/
09:53 TR Bot; Document Freedom Day - Home
09:53 Lantizia; maybe that'll work for the first meeting of 2024
09:53 Lantizia; we're only trying to do 3 a year at this point, one at the start of the year, one in the middle, one near the end
09:54 Lantizia; schestowitz[TR], I got an answer from FSFE btw on that Microsoft money question
09:54 schestowitz[TR]; it was not the biggest sscandal
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; it probably was not a lot of money
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; they are mostly-gulag inc. funded
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; biggest sponsor for over a decade
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; fsf also took some gulag inc. money
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; but not to the tune of top sponsor for so long and this money is not then biggest scandal
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; in fact, the sponsorhip angle can distract from the bigger blunders
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; but when ggreve was in charge they were trustworthy
09:56 Lantizia; so you're going to throw mud elsewhere now and not even ask what their reply was?
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; orgs go unhinged when founders depart
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; or get mrgainalised
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; see EFF
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; and OSI
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; OSI is a joke now
09:57 Lantizia; yes that seems to be what you do... all talk and no listening :)
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; Lantizia: their response would interest me
09:57 mjg59_; Are you saying ESR was a valuable part of OSI
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; if you can publicly share it
09:57 Lantizia; did you even think to ask them?
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, you shared a screenshot
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; as it was liekly private
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; no, not ESR
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; Perens and Phipps
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; Phipps is not in the top role there anymore
09:58 mjg59_; Phipps stayed involved for a long time
09:58 schestowitz[TR]; Lantizia: what have they said about microsoft funding?
09:58 mjg59_; Organisations shouldn't rely on their founders to maintain their mission
09:59 TR News; Red Hat on CIO role: 4 ways to do more with less https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/cio-role-4-ways-do-more-less
09:59 TR Bot; CIO role: 4 ways to do more with less | The Enterprisers Project
09:59 Lantizia; basically that the sponsorship being talked was in the context of the legal conference (which makes sense as that is what the article is about) and not their general sponsorship/donor list
09:59 TR News; Workplace culture: 4 key priorities for 2023 https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/workplace-culture-4-key-priorities-2023
09:59 TR Bot; Workplace culture: 4 key priorities for 2023 | The Enterprisers Project
09:59 mjg59_; You already disliked OSI while Phipps was still involved
09:59 mjg59_; So don't pretend this is down to founder involvement
09:59 schestowitz[TR]; read what I wrote about thewm
09:59 schestowitz[TR]; over the years
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; MS-PL was one issue
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; that was partly Asay's fault
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; Phipps actually antagonised Microsoft back then
10:00 Lantizia; so Microsoft, Ericcson, and Toyota haven't opted to be listed publicly (I think it is opt-in not opt-out, which is good) on the main FSFE donors page... but since they advertise at the legal conference anyway, it was hardly news worthy that they were sponsoring that specific event, so they thanked them
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: I got around to your
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; link
10:00 Lantizia; which seems fine to me!?
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; was on mumble with my dad (on holiday atm)
10:00 Lantizia; no mystery, no conspiracy...
10:01 schestowitz[TR]; so cash isa had high rates before, but you could only add 6500 per person (iirc) per year
10:01 schestowitz[TR]; Lantizia: let me check is that's true
10:01 Lantizia; well I said I'd get back to you, done that
10:02 Lantizia; I don't like not keeping to my word
10:02 Lantizia; but I think I'm done here :) my head may explode otherwise
10:02 schestowitz[TR]; ffii and others poke about that Microsoft funding
10:02 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Where does that page mention ISAs?
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; Lantizia: yes, that's what it was: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/fsfe-microsoft.jpg
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; but as I said earlier, for a good reason, it's not the thing I'd focus on if criticising fsfe
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; it was never a big blunder
10:05 Lantizia; not sure why you keep sourcing the screenshot... it hasn't changed... https://fsfe.org/news/2020/news-20200415-01.en.html
10:05 TR Bot; Free Software Legal and Licensing Workshop 2020 cancelled due to COVID-19 outbreak - FSFE
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; it happened AFTER they had done somethings
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; |*some thingg
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; inc. months earlier
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; against fsf
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; they are after the fsf's money
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; and johns complained about them
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; imposters
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; I think we may need to make a wiki page for fsfe
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; and enumerate the issues
10:07 TR News; Soft skills: How well-rounded IT pros can push your business forward https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/soft-skills-push-your-business-forward
10:07 TR Bot; Soft skills: How well-rounded IT pros can push your business forward | The Enterprisers Project
10:08 TR News; Nope, the UK cannot ratify it. So it remains illegal. http://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2023/20230217.html
10:08 TR Bot; EPO - The Unitary Patent is to become a reality
10:08 mjg59_; I'm not aware of any of the complaints about FSFE involving an attempt to redirect FSF sponsorship
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; the FSF did not say this publicly
10:10 Lantizia; schestowitz[TR], just use wikipedia
10:11 Lantizia; if its true, relevant, and you can cite your sources... it should stick
10:11 TR News; "Here a couple of patches I wrote to enable those two features for Xfwm4" https://www.tumfatig.net/2023/adding-variable-tiling-width-ratio-and-gaps-to-xfce-xfwm4/ | Source: TuMFatig
10:11 TR Bot; TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4
10:11 Lantizia; if it isn't - then it isn't worth saying
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; Lantizia: no, they manipulate wikipedia
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; that's another scandal actually
10:11 Lantizia; "they" :P
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; how they make wikipedia their marketing page
10:11 Lantizia; bye bye now :P
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; by copying from their site
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10:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsfe-fellowship/
10:13 TR Bot; Pocock on Resigning as the FSFE Fellowships Representative | Techrights
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; the fsfe page in wikipedia was candidate for deleition
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; for breach of rulkes
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; self-marketing
10:14 mjg59_; You just drove your source to quit
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; source?
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; not a source
10:15 mjg59_; Cool. What's your argument against interest rates on savings accounts in 2008 being higher than they are now?
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; for small amounts 20 years ago you could not get high interest rates
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; 2% was considered "OK"
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; when esadvings were introduced it was about 3
10:16 mjg59_; You're just wrong here?
10:17 mjg59_; Provide evidence
10:17 TR News; "Looks like everything is made of clouds and farts now, so we cannot be out of it we need to keep up on the trend." https://x61.sh/log/2023/02/20230217T112354-nextcloud_openbsd.html | Source: GonzaloR
10:17 TR Bot; 0x61 - /var/log
10:17 TR News; "helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/02/hellosystem-new-promising-macintosh-like-free-desktop-os.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
10:17 TR Bot; helloSystem: A New, Promising Macintosh-like Free Desktop OS
10:17 mjg59_; Guess you're not going to provide evidence
10:18 TR News; Remember This? https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5982 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
10:18 TR Bot; This? - News - SparkFun Electronics
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; the evidence is my own experience
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; savers who are students
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; and don't have much to "save"
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: So point at the evidence of the numbers you cite
10:20 TR News; "In layman's terms, GDB lets you peek inside a program while the program is executing" https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-debug-c-programs-in-linux-using-gdb/ | Source: HowTo Forge
10:20 TR Bot; How to Debug C Programs in Linux using gdb
10:20 TR News; "Voice commands are a contactless, hands-free, natural way to interact with devices, equipment" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/16/instantly-understand-40-languages-with-speech-recognition-engine/ | Source: Arduino
10:20 TR Bot; Instantly understand 40+ languages, with Speech Recognition Engine | Arduino Blog
10:21 TR News; "The trouble arises when we treat chatbots not just as search bots" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/02/google-microsoft-search-engine-chatbots-unreliability/673081/ | Source: The Atlantic
10:21 TR Bot; Bing and Google's chatbots are a disaster - The Atlantic
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: would need to open the storage area
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; and would not do this for you
10:21 TR News; "Turns out the Bing AI is bizarre and that is making quite the waves at the moment." https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2023/2/17/the-killing-ai/ | Source: Armin Ronacher
10:21 TR Bot; I Think AI Would Kill my Wife | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; natwest and barclays did not offer high int. rates back then except for rich people with home and all
10:23 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Ok so you refuse to provide evidence
10:24 TR News; "Computers represent strings using bytes. Most often, we use the Unicode standard to represent characters in bytes." https://lemire.me/blog/2023/02/16/computing-the-utf-8-size-of-a-latin-1-string-quickly-avx-edition/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
10:24 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2023/02/16/computing-the-utf-8-size-of-a-latin-1-string-quickly-avx-edition/ )
10:24 TR News; "The term interoperability holds different meanings for different people." https://medcitynews.com/2023/02/3-conditions-that-must-be-met-to-make-interoperability-a-reality/ | Source: Med City News
10:24 TR Bot; 3 Conditions that Must be Met to Make Interoperability a Reality - MedCity News
10:25 TR News; "The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (NIBBB), a group that launches small, lightweight balloons equipped with GPS trackers, transmitters and antennas" https://www.voanews.com/a/unidentified-object-downed-by-us-may-belong-to-hobbyists/6968519.html | Source: VOA News
10:25 TR Bot; Unidentified Object Downed by US Could Belong to Hobbyists
10:26 TR News; "The best way to reduce it, as China has shown, is to model pollution, share data and plan controls over the vast expanse in which the smog circulates." https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/02/17/how-to-save-two-million-lives-a-year | Source: The Economist
10:26 TR Bot; to save two million lives a year | The Economist
10:26 TR News; "This CO2 monitor performs two functions: it shows anyone nearby the CO2 levels in the area and it uploads that data over LoRaWAN to a central hub that can track the levels across many locations. A school could, for example, put one of these CO2 monitors in every classroom." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/17/small-mkr-wan-1310-powered-device-monitors-co2-levels-in-classrooms/ | Source: Arduino
10:26 TR Bot; Small, MKR WAN 1310-powered device monitors CO2 levels in classrooms | Arduino Blog
10:27 TR News; "Some psychologists point to social media, whereas others blame school shootings; others chalk it up to changes in parenting. Climate-change activists say its climate change." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/02/the-tragic-mystery-of-teenage-anxiety/673076/ | Source: The Atlantic
10:27 TR Bot; The Tragic Mystery of Teenage Anxiety - The Atlantic
10:28 TR News; Proprietary software https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-limit-use-text-messages-two-factor-authentication-paid-subscri-rcna71305 | Source: NBC
10:28 TR Bot; Twitter to limit use of text messages for two-factor authentication to paid subscribers
10:28 TR News; Proprietary software failing to do basic things https://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/090223/some-twitter-users-are-unable-to-post-told-theyre-over-daily-li.html | Source: Deccan Chronicle
10:28 TR Bot; Some Twitter users are unable to post, told theyre over daily limit
10:29 TR News; Windows TCO https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2023/02/smaller-companies-facing-cybersecurity-insurance-headwinds-equifax-executive/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
10:29 TR Bot; Smaller Companies Facing Cybersecurity Insurance Headwinds: Equifax Executive Broadband Breakfast
10:29 TR News; Windows TCO https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/17/cyber-security-concerns-a-threat-to-indias-national-security/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
10:29 TR Bot; Cyber Security Concerns: A threat to India's National Security - Modern Diplomacy
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: searched for natwest savings 2000/2001/2002/2003
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; not a historian
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; but those e-savings accounts were not 4%
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; search results are spammy
10:33 TR News; "In the first case, a man was duped of Rs 71,000 when he surfed the Internet to find the number of a hospital." https://telanganatoday.com/beware-while-searching-for-phone-numbers-on-internet | Source: India
10:33 TR Bot; Beware while searching for phone numbers on Internet - Telangana Today
10:34 TR News; "The Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act requires the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to submit an annual report to Congress regarding HIPAA complaints" https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3863724-reported-hipaa-complaints-and-breaches-shot-up-from-2017-to-2021-hhs/ | Source: The Hill
10:34 TR Bot; Reported HIPAA complaints and breaches shot up from 2017 to 2021: HHS | The Hill
10:34 TR News; "The Supreme Court will meet on Friday to decide whether to review a case challenging the legality of the National Security Agencys surveillance program that hoovers up Americans internet traffic as it flows in and out of the U.S" https://cyberscoop.com/wikimedia-nsa-supreme-court-surveillance/ | Source: Scoop News Group
10:34 TR Bot; wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Here's what's at stake. | CyberScoop
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
11:13 TR News; Programming Wordle gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/rgu/phlog/20230217.txt
11:15 TR News; CDEIKTW Wordo: BEAUS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-02-18.gmi
11:18 TR News; "Load shedding has been the reality every day since the start of 2023, according to a local tracker." https://allafrica.com/stories/202302170079.html | Source: All Africa
11:18 TR Bot; When Energy Crises Leave Us in the Dark, But Life Has to Go On - allAfrica.com
11:18 TR News; "Few technologies defined the 20th century more than the car." https://www.economist.com/international/2023/02/16/throughout-the-rich-world-the-young-are-falling-out-of-love-with-cars | Source: The Economist
11:18 TR Bot; the rich world, the young are falling out of love with cars | The Economist
11:18 TR News; [Old] The War on Cars https://thewaroncars.org/about/ |
11:18 TR Bot; About The War on Cars
11:18 TR News; In the Western world they like to say cars mean freedom as they get you places; but what if you have to be 5 or 10 years a slave in some corporate cage just to cover the cost of car ownership of a lifetime (age 17-70)?
11:19 TR News; "After pedestrian travel came automobiles (15%), buses (11%) and then bicycles (9%), according to the survey" https://yle.fi/a/74-20018549 | Source: YLE
11:19 TR Bot; E-scooters more popular than taxis, but walking still rules in Helsinki | News | Yle Uutiset
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; important:
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; Title Topic Deadline Action
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; Draft Act
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; Digital Services Act implementing regulation
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; <https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13565-Digital-Services-Act-implementing-regulation_en> Digital economy and society
11:25 schestowitz[TR]; 16/03/2023 Published for feedback
11:25 TR Bot; Have your say
11:28 TR News; "accurately identify every order, cancellation, modification" https://reason.com/2023/02/17/the-sec-is-starting-a-massive-database-of-every-stock-trade/ | Source: Reason
11:28 TR Bot; The SEC Is Starting a Massive Database of Every Stock Trade
11:28 TR News; "The social media company closed its offices in New Delhi and Mumbai, leaving only one remaining office in Bengaluru" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3863457-musk-shuts-down-two-india-twitter-offices-report/ | Source: The Hill
11:28 TR Bot; Musk shuts down two India Twitter offices: report | The Hill
11:28 TR News; "We are at an advanced stage of finalising a plan for a second data centre in Ireland with a third party service provider" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/data-center/tiktok-planning-2-more-data-centers-in-europe-amid-data-security-concerns/98032069 | Source: India Times
11:28 TR Bot; Tiktok Europe: TikTok planning 2 more data centers in Europe amid data security concerns, CIO News, ET CIO
11:29 TR News; "A Broadcom spokesperson said it was common for acquisitions of this size to extend their deal deadline." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/vmware-broadcom-extend-merger-close-deadline-by-three-months/98032276 | Source: India Times
11:29 TR Bot; VMware, Broadcom extend merger close deadline by three months, CIO News, ET CIO
11:29 TR News; "Bao Fan, the chairman and chief executive of China Renaissance investment bank, has gone missing, the firm said Friday." https://www.dw.com/en/chinese-tech-billionaire-bao-fan-goes-missing-company/a-64737175 | Source: Deutsche Welle
11:29 TR Bot; tech billionaire Bao Fan goes missing: company DW 02/17/2023
11:29 TR News; "The Chinese billionaire chairman of investment bank China Renaissance has gone missing" https://www.dawn.com/news/1737638/chinese-tech-billionaire-goes-missing-company | Source: Dawn Media
11:29 TR Bot; tech billionaire goes missing: company - Business - DAWN.COM
11:30 TR News; "Denying that the layoffs were done randomly, Alphabet and Google CEO Sundar Pichai had said earlier that he is deeply sorry" https://telanganatoday.com/google-india-hands-over-pink-slips-to-over-400-employees | Source: India
11:30 TR Bot; Google India hands over pink slips to over 400 employees - Telangana Today
11:30 TR News; "Gulag India layoffs come just a few weeks after the parent company Alphabet Inc. announced that it would sack close to 12,000 employees" https://www.outlookindia.com/business/tech-layoffs-google-india-lays-off-453-employees-across-departments-report-news-262825 | Source: Outlook India
11:30 TR Bot; Google India Lays Off 453 Employees Across Departments: Report
11:31 TR News; Twitter dying very rapidly https://www.outlookindia.com/business/after-mass-layoffs-at-twitter-elon-musk-shuts-two-of-three-twitter-india-offices-report--news-262849 | Source: Outlook India
11:31 TR Bot; After Mass Layoffs At Twitter, Elon Musk Shuts Two Of Three Twitter India Offices: Report
11:31 TR News; "Gulag has reportedly laid off 453 employees in India as part of its global move to reduce its headcount by 12,000." https://qz.com/google-lays-off-india-staff-and-twitter-shuts-offices-1850126277 | Source: Quartz
11:31 TR Bot; Google lays off staff and Twitter shuts two offices in India
11:31 TR News; "Alphabet Inc, the parent company of Gulag, announced the sack of 12,000 employees" https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/google-india-sacks-453-people-from-various-operations/article66518295.ece | Source: TheHinduBusinessLine
11:31 TR Bot; Google India sacks 453 people from various operations - The Hindu BusinessLine
11:35 TR News; "The Nexta channel, which ran via a messaging app, gained popularity as a way to share news and information in 2020 during the contested reelection of President Alexander Lukashenko" https://www.voanews.com/a/trial-begins-for-belarusian-blogger-grabbed-off-diverted-flight-/6968202.html | Source: VOA News
11:35 TR Bot; Trial Begins for Belarusian Blogger Grabbed Off Diverted Flight
11:37 TR News; "Daniel Ortegas regime stripped another 94 people of their Nicaraguan nationality on Wednesday." https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-02-16/ortega-strips-94-other-nicaraguans-of-their-nationality-among-them-writers-sergio-ramirez-and-gioconda-belli.html | Source: El Pas
11:37 TR Bot; Ortega strips another 94 Nicaraguans of their nationality, including writers Sergio Ramirez and Gioconda Belli | International | EL PAS English Edition
11:38 TR News; "CPJ senior researcher Yeganeh Rezaian knows firsthand what happens when Iranian officials gain access to personal devices." https://cpj.org/2023/02/irans-seizure-of-detained-journalists-devices-raises-fears-of-fresh-arrests-convictions/ | Source: CPJ
11:38 TR Bot; Irans seizure of detained journalists devices raises fears of fresh arrests, convictions - Committee to Protect Journalists
11:45 TR News; "CNN's Donie O'Sullivan speaks with a Twitch streamer who was horrified to learn her likeness was being used in 'deepfake' pornography - a tactic being used as a method of online targeted harassment." https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/02/16/deepfake-pornography-harrassment-osullivan-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn | Source: CNN
11:45 TR Bot; Video: How 'deepfake' pornography victimizes women online | CNN Business
11:45 TR News; "Police use of automated data analysis to prevent crime in some German states was unconstitutional" https://www.voanews.com/a/german-court-rules-police-use-of-crime-fighting-software-is-unlawful-/6965666.html | Source: VOA News
11:45 TR Bot; German Court Rules Police Use of Crime-Fighting Software is Unlawful
11:51 TR News; "you'll have noticed many articles on the comet with the green tail" https://opensource.com/article/23/2/open-source-planetarium | Source: OpenSource.com
11:51 TR Bot; from the web browser with an open source planetarium | Opensource.com
11:52 TR News; "There are several reasons to restrict an SSH user session to a particular directory, especially on web servers" https://www.tecmint.com/restrict-ssh-user-to-directory-using-chrooted-jail/ | Source: TecMint
11:52 TR Bot; Restrict SSH User Access to Home Directory Using Chrooted Jail
11:53 TR News; "This week has provided many openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots focusing on hardware, graphics, desktop environment and more" https://news.opensuse.org/2023/02/17/mesa-disk-xfce-up-in-tw/ | Source: OpenSUSE
11:53 TR Bot; Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
11:53 TR News; "16 NextCloud apps I use everyday!" https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/16-nextcloud-apps-i-use-everyday!:2 Feed reader mentioned at 01:45
11:53 TR Bot; 16 NextCloud apps I use everyday!
11:58 TR News; "DOJ takes aim at John Deere" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/doj-takes-aim-at-john-deere:e
11:58 TR Bot; DOJ takes aim at John Deere
11:59 TR News; "Seven States Push to Require ID for Watching Porn Online" https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=23/02/15/165245
11:59 TR Bot; Seven States Push to Require ID for Watching Porn Online - SoylentNews
12:01 TR News; Won't work https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11765213/Roald-Dahls-books-REWRITTEN-remove-offensive-language-create-world-no-one-fat.html
12:01 TR Bot; Roald Dahl's books REWRITTEN to remove 'offensive' language to create world where no one is 'fat' | Daily Mail Online
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; good news
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; former colleague making progress on the pension prove
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; *probe
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; not escalating a bit
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; *now
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; but this means no Part 3 this weekend
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; need more time
12:11 TR News; "The URVE Board Pi is a Single Board Computer based on the 4-core Rockchip RK3566." https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-based-sbc-features-poe-connector-and-m-2-sata-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
12:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-based-sbc-features-poe-connector-and-m-2-sata-support/ )
12:15 TR News; "the company kept pretending things were going ok" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170223.html#tFeb%2017%2023:57:42
12:15 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 17, 2023
12:16 TR News; Is BillBC worthy of raids? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160223.html#tFeb%2016%2000:03:17
12:16 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 16, 2023
12:18 TR News; "Today we've seen an update for two translation layers. Wine has development release 8.2 available" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/wine-8-2-released-and-new-steam-proton-experimental-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:18 TR Bot; 8.2 rolls out along with a new Proton Experimental update | GamingOnLinux
12:18 TR News; "2K sent out a press release today confirming a number of things including a new Civilization game is onthe way." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/a-new-civilization-game-is-in-development-and-xcom-designer-leaves-firaxis/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:18 TR Bot; new Civilization game is in development and XCOM designer leaves Firaxis | GamingOnLinux
12:18 TR News; "Zero Wing along with other shoot 'em up classics Out Zone, Twin Cobra and Truxton from Toaplan and Bitwave Games have their brand new PC releases out." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/all-your-base-are-belong-to-us-zero-wing-and-other-classics-hit-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:18 TR Bot; Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing (and other classics) hit Steam | GamingOnLinux
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:28 *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #techrights
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:11 TR News; Social distancing is the new "bunker". Keeping away, e.g. in simpler islands, is way to assure safety.
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:23 TR News; "right to repair" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/more-details-on-how-tech-lobbyists-lobotomized-nys-right-to-repair-law-with-governor-kathy-hochuls-help/ | Source: Techdirt
13:23 TR Bot; Details On How Tech Lobbyists Lobotomized NYs Right To Repair Law With Governor Kathy Hochuls Help | Techdirt
13:23 TR News; patent https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/two-ways-us-patent-office-could-do-better-examination | Source: EFF
13:23 TR Bot; Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:24 TR News; "Perhaps unsurprisingly to anyone who has been paying attention to the conversation around generative AI" https://creativecommons.org/2023/02/17/fair-use-training-generative-ai/ | Source: Creative Commons
13:24 TR Bot; Fair Use: Training Generative AI - Creative Commons
13:29 TR News; Anatomy Of A Fake CO2 Sensor https://hackaday.com/2023/02/18/anatomy-of-a-fake-co2-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday
13:29 TR Bot; Of A Fake CO2 Sensor | Hackaday
13:29 TR News; "If you are a retrocomputer fan" https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/quantum-interconnects-get-faster/ | Source: Hackaday
13:29 TR Bot; Interconnects Get Faster | Hackaday
13:42 TR News; Anti-Union Fanaticism https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/nikki-haley-unions-gop-2024/ | Source: The Nation
13:42 TR Bot; Nikki Haley's Anti-Union Fanaticism Is Wild Even for a Republican | The Nation
13:53 TR News; Murdoch lied.. intentionally... for MONEY https://truthout.org/articles/fox-news-worried-that-fact-checking-trumps-big-lie-would-hurt-ratings/ | Source: TruthOut
13:53 TR Bot; Fox News Worried That Fact-Checking Trumps Big Lie Would Hurt Ratings - Truthout
13:53 TR News; fossforce does meta posting a lot... but better than fossforce being inactive for 6 months like before https://fossforce.com/2023/02/top-five-reads-on-foss-force-for-week-ending-february-17-2023/ | Source: Unicorn Media
13:53 TR Bot; Top Five Reads on FOSS Force for Week Ending February 17, 2023 - FOSS Force
14:02 TR News; child labour https://www.commondreams.org/news/child-labor-meatpacking-packers | Source: Common Dreams
14:02 TR Bot; 'Egregious': DOL Finds US Meatpacking Plants Illegally Employed 100+ Children
14:16 TR News; Price-fixing cartel https://www.commondreams.org/news/warren-porter-egg-prices | Source: Common Dreams
14:16 TR Bot; Warren and Porter Demand Answers From Big Egg Over 'Massive Spike' in Prices
14:16 TR News; teachers https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/estate-tax-to-raise-teacher-pay | Source: Common Dreams
14:16 TR Bot; Opinion | The Richest Americans Need to Be Taught This Serious Lesson About Teachers | Common Dreams
14:17 TR News; sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-derailments-wall-street | Source: Common Dreams
14:17 TR Bot; Echoing Workers, Sanders Says Train Derailments Stem From Wall Street Greed
14:18 *h4unt3d (~h4unt3d@itjt94x9fhigg.irc) has joined #techrights
14:18 TR News; crypto https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/hackaday-podcast-206-busted-crypto-killed-the-queen-kicads-new-clothes-peer-inside-the-sol-20/ | Source: Hackaday
14:18 TR Bot; Podcast 206: Busted Crypto Killed The Queen, Kicads New Clothes, Peer Inside The Sol 20 | Hackaday
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:27 TR News; "Free Market" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/qa-naomi-oreskes/ | Source: The Nation
14:27 TR Bot; America's Toxic Romance With the Free Market | The Nation
14:28 TR News; "ilmmakers have obtained a subpoena to reveal the identities of Redditors who commented on piracy [sic]-related topics" https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-request-identities-of-reddit-users-to-aid-piracy-lawsuit-230218/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:28 TR Bot; Request Identities of Reddit Users to Aid Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
14:28 TR News; "In late 2020, major academic publishers Elsevier, Wiley, and American Chemical Society, filed an application to have Sci-Hub blocked" https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-founders-high-court-creativity-fails-to-dismiss-publishers-lawsuit-230217/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:28 TR Bot; Founder's High Court Creativity Fails to Dismiss Publishers' Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
14:30 TR News; Social security https://truthout.org/articles/mike-pence-calls-for-privatizing-social-security-in-fox-news-interview/ | Source: TruthOut
14:30 TR Bot; Mike Pence Calls for Privatizing Social Security in Fox News Interview - Truthout
14:35 TR News; wage theft https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-and-warren-grill-uss-largest-grocer-on-reports-of-rampant-wage-theft/ | Source: TruthOut
14:35 TR Bot; Sanders and Warren Grill USs Largest Grocer on Reports of Rampant Wage Theft - Truthout
14:36 TR News; unions being busted https://truthout.org/articles/these-workers-were-fired-after-union-activity-heres-how-they-got-un-fired/ | Source: TruthOut
14:36 TR Bot; These Workers Were Fired After Union Activity. Heres How They Got Un-Fired. - Truthout
14:37 TR News; People being such price-fixing cartels would ba arrested in a properly-functioning market https://truthout.org/articles/warren-demands-answers-on-soaring-egg-prices-as-top-producers-profits-skyrocket/ | Source: TruthOut
14:37 TR Bot; Warren Demands Answers on Soaring Egg Prices as Top Producers Profits Skyrocket - Truthout
14:37 TR News; layoffs https://truthout.org/articles/disney-the-place-where-dreams-of-mass-layoffs-come-true-for-investors/ | Source: TruthOut
14:37 TR Bot; Disney: The Place Where Dreams of Mass Layoffs Come True for Investors - Truthout
14:39 TR News; Tatyana Usmanova https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/02/18/andrei-pivovarov-former-director-of-open-russia-was-transferred-from-a-krasnodar-jail-his-whereabouts-have-been-unknown-for-a-month | Source: Meduza
14:39 TR Bot; Andrei Pivovarov, former director of Open Russia, was transferred from a Krasnodar jail. His whereabouts have been unknown for a month. Meduza
14:40 TR News; No battery https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/hack-lets-intel-macbook-run-without-a-battery/ | Source: Hackaday
14:40 TR Bot; Lets Intel MacBook Run Without A Battery | Hackaday
14:41 TR News; wisconsin https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/wisconsin-city-decides-its-ok-to-eavesdrop-on-private-conversations-in-its-city-hall/ | Source: Techdirt
14:41 TR Bot; City Decides Its OK To Eavesdrop On Private Conversations In Its City Hall | Techdirt
14:42 TR News; "a gay Chechen man detained at the Domodedovo Moscow airport after returning to Russia from the Netherlands" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/02/17/i-am-a-man-and-will-soon-get-married-gay-chechen-man-arrested-in-russia-records-patriotic-videos-likely-under-duress | Source: Meduza
14:42 TR Bot; I am a man, and will soon get married: Gay Chechen man arrested in Russia records patriotic videos, likely under duress Meduza
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14:44 TR News; New project: "GeschTAp" - the story telling telephone. gemini://home.plueschbit.de/minilog.gmi
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14:54 TR News; Gonzalez and Taamneh cases https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/next-week-the-supreme-court-could-destroy-everything-good-about-the-internet/ | Source: Techdirt
14:54 TR Bot; Week, The Supreme Court Could Destroy Everything Good About The Internet | Techdirt
14:54 TR News; "Weve had no shortage of posts at Techdirt on the problems of fraud and abuse in the current DMCA takedown process" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/one-city-builder-games-tale-shows-just-how-wide-open-the-dmca-process-is-for-abuse/ | Source: Techdirt
14:54 TR Bot; City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse | Techdirt
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14:55 TR News; "Nearly five centuries later, the social and political considerations of Shakespeare's oeuvre continue to offer insights" https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/17/shakespeare-and-the-politics-of-the-21st-century-the-chris-hedges-report/ | Source: Scheerpost
14:55 TR Bot; and the Politics of the 21st Century | The Chris Hedges Report - scheerpost.com
14:56 TR News; Take away their patents https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/17/sanders-excoriates-unprecedented-greed-of-big-pharma-during-pandemic/ | Source: Scheerpost
14:56 TR Bot; Excoriates 'Unprecedented' Greed of Big Pharma During Pandemic - scheerpost.com
14:56 TR News; "Thanks to drug legalization, theres a new drug corridor that Kansas law enforcement is taking advantage of" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/kansas-state-police-facing-multiple-lawsuits-for-pretextual-traffic-stops/ | Source: Techdirt
14:56 TR Bot; State Police Facing Multiple Lawsuits For Pretextual Traffic Stops | Techdirt
14:57 TR News; "Lots of people have really strange ideas about what defamation entails." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/some-guy-thinks-a-legal-doc-websites-failure-to-report-on-his-settlement-is-somehow-defamatory/ | Source: Techdirt
14:57 TR Bot; Guy Thinks A Legal Doc Websites Failure To Report On His Settlement Is Somehow Defamatory | Techdirt
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14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:01 TR News; Some Lapland filling stations fear fuel shortage https://yle.fi/a/74-20018401
15:01 TR Bot; Some Lapland filling stations fear fuel shortage | News | Yle Uutiset
15:02 TR News; Minister Lintil admits WhatsApp account wasn't hacked, still denies sending Sanna Marin meme https://yle.fi/a/74-20018333
15:02 TR Bot; Minister Lintil admits WhatsApp account wasn't hacked, still denies sending Sanna Marin meme | News | Yle Uutiset
15:02 TR News; Mail delays loom as Posti workers join transport strikers https://yle.fi/a/74-20018267
15:02 TR Bot; Mail delays loom as Posti workers join transport strikers | News | Yle Uutiset
15:07 TR News; Chinas Top Tech Banker Is Missing? Heres What That Means https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-s-top-tech-banker-is-missing-here-s-what-that-means
15:07 TR Bot; Chinas top tech banker is missing? Heres what that means | The Straits Times
15:08 TR News; Vulkan 1.3.241 out, but it needs a Free software development platform, not proprietary software prison controlled by the biggest enemy, Microsoft
15:11 TR News; "Patents From the confirmation of Kathi Vidal as Director of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) to the Western District of Texass standing order attempting to break up Judge Alan Albrights monopoly on patent lawsuits..." https://www.patentprogress.org/2023/02/an-up-and-down-year-at-the-uspto/
15:11 TR Bot; An Up and Down Year at the USPTO - Patent Progress
15:12 TR News; Better question: will a person who serves the people rather than oligarchs and corporations take over? Identity politics misses the point. Oligarchy (Conde Nast in this case) shifts the focus. https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/is-a-woman-ever-going-to-win-the-white-house
15:12 TR Bot; Is a Woman Ever Going to Win the White House? | The New Yorker
15:15 TR News; Kubuntu Focus Team Releases New Mini Desktop http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Kubuntu-Focus-Team-Releases-New-Mini-Desktop
15:15 TR Bot; Kubuntu Focus Team Releases New Mini Desktop Linux Magazine
15:16 TR News; Working from home attracts people from big cities to the suburbs https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html
15:16 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html )
15:17 TR News; Housing prices to fall and rents to rise: PTT https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22977-housing-prices-to-fall-and-rents-to-rise-ptt.html
15:17 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22977-housing-prices-to-fall-and-rents-to-rise-ptt.html )
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:21 TR News; Twitter does realise that making 2FA a payers-only feature not only discriminates against the poor but also blows cover/anonymity (banks) in places where this means life or death...
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15:23 TR News; (NEW): Games: Wine 8.2 Released, All Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Games_Wine_8_2_Released_All_Your_Base_Are_Belong_to_Us_Zero_Win.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Games_Wine_8_2_Released_All_Your_Base_Are_Belong_to_Us_Zero_Win.gmi
15:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Wine 8.2 Released, All Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing, and More
15:23 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Issues: Twitter, Microsoft, and Facebook http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Issues_Twitter_Microsoft_and_Facebook.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Issues_Twitter_Microsoft_and_Facebook.gmi
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15:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Issues: Twitter, Microsoft, and Facebook
15:25 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22122548
15:25 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/22122548
15:29 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino, Raspberry Pi Pico, and SparkFun http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Open_Hardware_Arduino_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_and_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Open_Hardware_Arduino_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_and_SparkFun.gmi
15:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Arduino, Raspberry Pi Pico, and SparkFun
15:30 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/PostgreSQL_JDBC_42_5_4_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/PostgreSQL_JDBC_42_5_4_Released.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released
15:32 TR News; Deploy MongoDB in a Container, Access It Outside the Cluster - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/deploy-mongodb-in-a-container-access-it-outside-the-cluster/ Source: The New Stack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thenewstack.io/deploy-mongodb-in-a-container-access-it-outside-the-cluster/
15:32 TR Bot; Deploy MongoDB in a Container, Access It Outside the Cluster - The New Stack
15:34 TR News; "The future of enterprise Linux boot processes"??? - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/17/systemd_253/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2023/02/17/systemd_253/
15:34 TR Bot; systemd 253: The future of enterprise Linux boot processes The Register
15:36 TR News; git status Side Effects https://blog.trueelena.org/blog/2023/02/17-git-status-side-effects/index.html
15:36 TR Bot; Valhalla's Things git status Side Effects
15:37 TR News; (NEW): IBM and Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/IBM_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/IBM_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi
15:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines IBM and Red Hat Leftovers
15:38 TR News; LibreELEC 11.0-beta2 is out
15:44 TR News; 40+ Best Open Source Android Apps https://itsfoss.com/open-source-android-apps/
15:44 TR Bot; 40+ Best Open Source Android Apps
15:45 TR News; Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 https://blog.strits.dk/plasma-mobile-5-27-plamo-gear-23-01-0/
15:45 TR Bot; Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0
15:47 TR News; How to install EndeavourOS Cassini Neo - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HzwZIMWS4o0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/HzwZIMWS4o0
15:47 TR Bot; How to install EndeavourOS Cassini Neo - Invidious
15:47 TR News; Nobara Project 37 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wN3w-IMTFEo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/wN3w-IMTFEo
15:47 TR Bot; Nobara Project 37 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious
15:49 TR News; Heroic Games Launcher https://sparkylinux.org/heroic-games-launcher/
15:49 TR Bot; Heroic Games Launcher SparkyLinux
15:52 TR News; (NEW): Debian bookworm in soft freeze http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_bookworm_in_soft_freeze.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_bookworm_in_soft_freeze.gmi
15:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian bookworm in soft freeze
15:54 TR News; (NEW): Gnome Console adds Overview Page to show All Open Tabs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Gnome_Console_adds_Overview_Page_to_show_All_Open_Tabs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Gnome_Console_adds_Overview_Page_to_show_All_Open_Tabs.gmi
15:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gnome Console adds Overview Page to show All Open Tabs
15:55 MinceR; https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/Nearsighted-Voodoo-Priest.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/08/02/don-martin-the-nearsighted-voodoo-priest )
15:55 TR Bot; Don Martin: The Nearsighted Voodoo Priest | Mad Magazine
15:58 TR News; Where is php.ini? Find the Correct PHP Configuration File https://tecadmin.net/where-is-php-ini/
15:58 TR Bot; Where is php.ini? Find the Correct PHP Configuration File TecAdmin
16:02 TR News; How to Set Up Deep Learning Architecture on Ubuntu 22.04 https://www.cloudbooklet.com/how-to-set-up-deep-learning-architecture-on-ubuntu-22-04/
16:02 TR Bot; to Set Up Deep Learning Architecture on Ubuntu 22.04 - Cloudbooklet
16:04 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/07 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2023/02/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2023-07/
16:04 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/07 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
16:05 TR News; MySQL Generated columns https://linuxconcept.com/mysql-generated-columns/
16:05 TR Bot; MySQL Generated columns
16:06 TR News; MySQL Common table expressions (CTE) https://linuxconcept.com/mysql-common-table-expressions-cte/
16:06 TR Bot; MySQL Common table expressions (CTE)
16:07 TR News; IoT Prototype Kit is powered by an Alder Lake-H COM Express module with up to Core i5-12600HE CPU https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/02/18/iot-prototype-kit-alder-lake-h-com-express-core-i5-12600he/
16:07 TR Bot; IoT Prototype Kit is powered by an Alder Lake-H COM Express module with up to Core i5-12600HE CPU - CNX Software
16:09 TR News; Microsoft/Windows booster: Chris Titus Tech: Microsoft is DESTROYING Windows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7JmN8_URGY
16:09 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=q7JmN8_URGY
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16:10 TR News; Clonezilla Live (3.0.3-22) Released: Now Support for Multiple LUKS Devices and Linux 6.1 LTS https://www.ubuntupit.com/clonezilla-live-3-0-3-22-released-now-support-for-multiple-luks-devices-and-linux-6-1-lts/
16:10 TR Bot; Clonezilla Live (3.0.3-22) Released: Now Support for Multiple LUKS Devices and Linux 6.1 LTS
16:11 TR News; A Match Made in Tech Heaven: Ubuntu and Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Arm Laptop https://www.ubuntupit.com/a-match-made-in-tech-heaven-ubuntu-and-lenovo-thinkpad-x13s-arm-laptop/
16:11 TR Bot; A Match Made in Tech Heaven: Ubuntu and Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Arm Laptop
16:12 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is Equipped with Linux Kernel 5.19 From Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu! https://www.ubuntupit.com/ubuntu-22-04-lts-is-equipped-with-linux-kernel-5-19-from-ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu/
16:12 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is Equipped with Linux Kernel 5.19 From Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu!
16:13 TR News; Embedded Linux and Yocto training courses now available in Italian https://bootlin.com/blog/embedded-linux-and-yocto-training-courses-now-available-in-italian/
16:13 TR Bot; Linux and Yocto training courses now available in Italian - Bootlin's blog
16:14 TR News; Using Type::Params Effectively https://blogs.perl.org/users/toby_inkster/2023/02/using-typeparams-effectively.html
16:14 TR Bot; Type::Params Effectively | Toby Inkster [blogs.perl.org]
16:16 TR News; <li><h5><a href="https://www.how2shout.com/linux/remove-stacer-from-ubuntu-linux/">How to Remove Stacer from Ubuntu Linux</a></h5><blockquote><p>Stacer is a free & open-source Linux system monitoring software with a beautiful GUI. The primary purpose of using this software is to get metrics data of the system to analyze its performance and resource usage.
16:16 TR Bot; How to Remove Stacer from Ubuntu Linux - Linux Shout
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:20 TR News; Management Priorities for Highly Turbulent Times https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2023/02/priorities-for-ceos-in-turbulent-times.html
16:20 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Management Priorities for Highly Turbulent Times
16:21 TR News; Begone GTK4, Long Live The New King GTK5 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dPnhAS5_xQE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dPnhAS5_xQE
16:21 TR Bot; Begone GTK4, Long Live The New King GTK5 - Invidious
16:22 TR News; Adorable model trolley livens up a garden https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/17/adorable-model-trolley-livens-up-a-garden/
16:22 TR Bot; Adorable model trolley livens up a garden | Arduino Blog
16:26 TR News; (UPDATED): Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Mesa_Disk_Encryption_Xfce_Packages_Update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Mesa_Disk_Encryption_Xfce_Packages_Update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED)
16:26 TR News; (NEW): Clonezilla Live 3.0.3 Disk Cloning Tool Adds Support for Multiple LUKS Devices, Linux 6.1 LTS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_3_Disk_Cloning_Tool_Adds_Support_for_Multip.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_3_Disk_Cloning_Tool_Adds_Support_for_Multip.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Clonezilla Live 3.0.3 Disk Cloning Tool Adds Support for Multiple LUKS Devices, Linux 6.1 LTS
16:26 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
16:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
16:27 TR News; (NEW): VisionFive 2: A Raspberry Pi Like Moment for RISC-V http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/VisionFive_2_A_Raspberry_Pi_Like_Moment_for_RISC_V.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/VisionFive_2_A_Raspberry_Pi_Like_Moment_for_RISC_V.gmi
16:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines VisionFive 2: A Raspberry Pi Like Moment for RISC-V
16:27 TR News; (NEW): Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Plasma_Mobile_5_27_PlaMo_Gear_23_01_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Plasma_Mobile_5_27_PlaMo_Gear_23_01_0.gmi
16:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0
16:29 TR News; 16 NextCloud apps I use every day! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MlLrcpXBB_A | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MlLrcpXBB_A
16:29 TR Bot; 16 NextCloud apps I use every day! - Invidious
16:30 TR News; US launches strike force to monitor tech export law violations https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/us-launches-strike-force-to-monitor-tech-export-law-violations.html
16:30 TR Bot; - US launches strike force to monitor tech export law violations
16:31 TR News; Framework now offers 2TB SSDs for the Steam Deck. But you'll have to do the leg work. (Deck News) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wx7He3uAFbQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Wx7He3uAFbQ
16:31 TR Bot; Framework now offers 2TB SSDs for the Steam Deck. But you'll have to do the leg work. (Deck News) - Invidious
16:32 TR News; mount-img asks read-only or read-write https://bkhome.org/news/202302/mount-img-asks-read-only-or-read-write.html
16:32 TR Bot; mount-img asks read-only or read-write
16:32 TR News; Writing Javascript without a build system https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/02/16/writing-javascript-without-a-build-system/
16:33 TR Bot; Writing Javascript without a build system
16:34 TR News; How to install MariaDB on Fedora 37 https://unixcop.com/install-mariadb-fedora/
16:34 TR Bot; How to install MariaDB on Fedora 37 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
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16:35 TR News; PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.19.0, 1.18.2 and 1.17.4 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1190-1182-and-1174-released-2598/ Source: PostgreSQL | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1190-1182-and-1174-released-2598/
16:35 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.19.0, 1.18.2 and 1.17.4 Released!
16:41 TR News; How to Install Microsoft Fonts on Linux Mint 21 or 20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-microsoft-fonts-on-linux-mint/
16:41 TR Bot; to Install Microsoft Fonts on Linux Mint 21 or 20 - LinuxCapable
16:41 TR News; How to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-metasploit-framework-on-ubuntu-linux/
16:41 TR Bot; to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
16:41 TR News; How to Install Oracle Java 17 on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-17-on-ubuntu-linux/
16:41 TR Bot; to Install Oracle Java 17 on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
16:41 TR News; How to Install Jellyfin Media Server on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-jellyfin-media-server-on-ubuntu-linux/
16:41 TR Bot; to Install Jellyfin Media Server on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
16:42 TR News; Wine development release 8.2 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS https://www.wine-reviews.net/2023/02/wine-development-release-82-is-now.html
16:42 TR Bot; Wine Reviews : Wine development release 8.2 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS
16:45 TR News; Data Quality https://xkcd.com/2739/
16:45 TR Bot; Data Quality
16:46 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
16:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:46 TR News; (NEW): 1.3 About Screen Contest celebrating 20 years of Inkscape http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/1_3_About_Screen_Contest_celebrating_20_years_of_Inkscape.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/1_3_About_Screen_Contest_celebrating_20_years_of_Inkscape.gmi
16:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines 1.3 About Screen Contest celebrating 20 years of Inkscape
16:47 TR News; LibreOffice Dark Mode: Manual switch to enable/disable coming in 7.5.1 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/02/17/libreoffice-dark-mode-manual-switch-to-enable-disable-coming-in-7-5-1/
16:47 TR Bot; LibreOffice Dark Mode: Manual switch to enable/disable coming in 7.5.1 - The Document Foundation Blog
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16:49 TR News; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for January 2023 https://internetfreedom.in/https-internetfreedom-in-digital-transparency-report-for-january-2023/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/https-internetfreedom-in-digital-transparency-report-for-january-2023/
16:49 TR Bot; Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for January 2023
16:49 TR News; Read our public brief on the draft Digital Personal Data Protection Bill, 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/read-our-public-brief-on-the-draft-digital-personal-data-protection-bill-2022/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/read-our-public-brief-on-the-draft-digital-personal-data-protection-bill-2022/
16:49 TR Bot; Read our public brief on the draft Digital Personal Data Protection Bill, 2022
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17:03 TR News; "That is not an issue with feeds. Its an issue with feed viewers." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-feeds-are-a-dark-pattern
17:04 TR News; Evangelicals & Climate Change gemini://idiomdrottning.org/evangelicals-and-climate-change
17:04 TR News; Lightweight data monitoring using rrdtool gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/rrdtool-light-monitoring.gmi
17:05 TR News; Introduction to nftables on Linux gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nftables.gmi
17:06 TR News; [Cheatsheet] Fossil version control system gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/fossil-scm.gmi
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:21 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/funny-pictures-1-12-23-14.jpg
17:24 TR News; Links 18/02/2023: Wine 8.2 Released and Celebrating 20 Years of Inkscape | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/02/18/20-years-of-inkscape/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/02/18/20-years-of-inkscape/
17:24 TR Bot; Links 18/02/2023: Wine 8.2 Released and Celebrating 20 Years of Inkscape | Techrights
17:25 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
17:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
17:25 TR News; (NEW): Videos: NextCloud, GTK, Nobara Project 37 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Videos_NextCloud_GTK_Nobara_Project_37.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Videos_NextCloud_GTK_Nobara_Project_37.gmi
17:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: NextCloud, GTK, Nobara Project 37
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18:00 XRevan86; schestowitz: It might be a good idea to ban activelow.
18:01 XRevan86; The guy is the closest thing to a Nazi I've ever talked to.
18:02 MinceR; yes, nazis are shockingly close to being nazis
18:03 XRevan86; MinceR: They are, aren't they?
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18:11 morena; ladies
18:12 morena; how many spammy links I miss?
18:12 MinceR; nobody will count that for you
18:12 MinceR; if you want to know, you get to count it or to write a script that does it for you
18:14 morena; ye
18:14 morena; only god know how many were clicked and read
18:15 MinceR; which god
18:15 morena; by these 2 random users
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18:15 morena; svarog
18:15 MinceR; :)
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:23 morena; I would like to understand that thing with that spam
18:23 morena; I somehow can't get it
18:30 MinceR; i don't know, but it's much nicer when it's interspersed with constant whining about it
18:35 Moocher5254; did anyone mention me?
18:39 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
18:39 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
18:39 DaemonFC; I missed this.
18:39 DaemonFC; Last year, KFC had to apologize because a "bot" sent a push message to people in Germany urging them to have "cheesy fried chicken" in celebration of Kristallnacht.
18:39 MinceR; :)
18:39 DaemonFC; https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63499057
18:39 TR Bot; apologises after German Kristallnacht promotion - BBC News
18:40 MinceR; https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/One-Fine-Dat-at-the-Construction-Site.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/26/don-martin-one-fine-day-at-the-construction-site )
18:40 TR Bot; Don Martin: One Fine Day at The Construction Site | Mad Magazine
18:54 DaemonFC; https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser/linux/-/issues/345
18:54 TR Bot; 'leaking' info about visited URLs to systemd journal (logs) - privacy concerns (#345) Issues LibreWolf / Browser / Linux GitLab
18:54 DaemonFC; Uh, alrighty then...
18:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
18:57 DaemonFC; Ryan Alcaraz
18:57 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
18:57 DaemonFC; Today in LOL@FAILFOX, Failfox clone LibreWolf is leaking your browsing history into systemd-journald on Linux, where it gets saved into the system log.
18:57 DaemonFC; Then the developer responded without reading the issue, and conflated it with some Windows problem where "hiding browser activity from the OS can look like malicious software".
18:57 DaemonFC; Most people never use antivirus software on Linux because it's almost impossible to end up with a virus unless you do something really dumb.
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19:18 morena; ... beyond repair
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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20:58 MinceR; https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/M096P048.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/19/don-martin-the-indignant-husband )
20:58 TR Bot; Don Martin: The Indignant Husband | Mad Magazine
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21:43 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://apina.biz/183339.mp4?mode=sfw
21:43 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/183339.mp4
22:11 TR News; Gemini Capsule on Pico W gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/pico-w.gmi
22:12 TR News; More Fountain Pens gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/stug/phlog
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:27 DaemonFC; https://www.firstpost.com/world/uk-mulls-no-sick-leave-for-workers-in-bid-to-boost-economy-12164872.html
22:27 TR Bot; UK mulls no sick leave for workers in bid to boosteconomy
22:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Boost the economy.
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; :L-o
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; during covid?
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22:30 DaemonFC; Post-COVID!
22:30 DaemonFC; Which is now, you know.
22:30 MinceR; https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/SCENES-WED-LIKE-TO-SEE.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/12/don-martin-still-more-fairy-tale-scenes-wed-like-to-see-rapunzel )
22:30 TR Bot; Don Martin: Still More Fairy Tale Scenes We'd Like to See (Rapunzel) | Mad Magazine
22:32 DaemonFC; gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kxan.com%2Fnews%2Fnational-news%2Fman-run-over-killed-while-allegedly-trying-to-steal-catalytic-converter%2F
22:33 DaemonFC; "A man was killed when he was run over by the driver of a car from which he was allegedly trying steal a catalytic converter in Southern California.
22:33 DaemonFC; Just before 6 p.m. Tuesday in Palmdale, Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department deputies found a man lying on the ground near a four-by-four Ford Excursion and another smaller vehicle next to it, the department said in a press release.
22:33 DaemonFC; Investigators said the driver of the Ford had been asleep in her vehicle when she awoke to the sound of a man sawing off her vehicles catalytic converter. She immediately put her car in reverse, the LASD said.
22:33 DaemonFC; After she felt a bump like she ran something over, she stopped her vehicle and called 911 for help, the release said.
22:33 DaemonFC; The man was taken by ambulance to a local hospital, where he was declared dead.
22:33 DaemonFC; The three people, a man and two women, who accompanied the deceased man in the smaller vehicle were arrested by deputies."
22:33 DaemonFC; Yeah, sawing off a catalytic converter makes a lot of noise.
22:33 DaemonFC; You should go after a hybrid car.
22:34 DaemonFC; The catalytic converters have more precious metals in them so they'll get you several times what a normal one would.
22:34 DaemonFC; If you're going to take risks you might as well get $1,500 instead of $100.
22:35 DaemonFC; https://www.mlive.com/news/2023/02/northern-michigan-man-blows-up-beaver-dam-with-explosives-floods-neighbors-properties.html
22:35 TR Bot; Michigan man blows up beaver dam with explosives, floods neighbors properties - mlive.com
22:37 TR News; French pension reform bill passes to Senate as tense parliament session ends https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230218-french-pension-reform-bill-passes-to-senate-as-tense-parliament-session-ends
22:37 TR Bot; French pension reform bill passes to Senate as tense parliament session ends
22:37 DaemonFC; "CO Liestenfeltz was able to locate the area where the dam was destroyed and found several .308 rifle casings which were recovered as evidence. The officer also noticed the water level had dropped dramatically resulting in there being less water upstream and more downstream where it eventually leveled out.
22:37 DaemonFC; CO Liestenfeltz was then able to make contact with the property owner, who admitted to using a large block of Tannerite to blow up the dam. The suspect allegedly said they did not think about what would happen as quickly as it did when the dam was removed.
22:37 DaemonFC; The rifle used to shoot the Tannerite was also seized as evidence. The Montmorency County Prosecutors Office will now decided if a charge of removing a beaver dam without a permit will be formally filed against the suspect."
22:38 DaemonFC; To be fair, the beavers didn't get a permit to build it.
22:38 TR News; Two weeks, alive under rubble https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20230218-turkey-syria-death-toll-tops-45-000-three-found-alive-13-days-after-quakes
22:38 TR Bot; Turkey-Syria death toll tops 45,000; three found alive 13 days after quakes
22:39 DaemonFC; He should have recovered his own shell casings and not answered the door or talked to the cop.
22:39 DaemonFC; They'd never have been able to prove anything.
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230217-french-court-convicts-far-right-militants-over-macron-assassination-plot
22:41 TR Bot; French court convicts far-right militants over Macron assassination plot
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; your concerns noted and shared
22:41 DaemonFC; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/seven-states-push-to-require-id-for-watching-porn-online/
22:41 TR Bot; Seven states push to require ID for watching porn online | Ars Technica
22:42 DaemonFC; VPN
22:42 TR News; SMILE: Progress and collapse gemini://oberdada.pollux.casa/gemlog/2023-02-18_smile.gmi
22:42 MinceR; indeed
22:42 DaemonFC; But not every state agrees that rushing to require age verification is the best solution. Today, a South Dakota committee voted to defer voting on its age verification bill until the last day of the legislative session. The bills sponsor, Republican Jessica Castleberry, seemingly failed to persuade the committee of the urgency of passing the law, saying at the hearing that "this is not your daddy's Playboy. Extreme, degrading, and violen
22:42 DaemonFC; t pornography is only one click away from our children." She told Ars that the bill was not passed because some state lawmakers were too easily swayed by powerful lobbyists.
22:43 DaemonFC; Oh no, not the children!
22:43 DaemonFC; There's no evidence that children seeing porn is more of a problem now than it was 25 years ago.
22:44 TR News; Tesla lies reprinted by Engadget. How about check the facts instead of parroting? https://www.engadget.com/tesla-denies-firing-new-york-workers-retaliation-union-activity-060322521.html
22:44 TR Bot; denies firing New York workers in retaliation for union activity | Engadget
22:45 TR News; SEC charges Terraform Labs over alleged 'multi-biillion dollar' crypto fraud https://www.engadget.com/sec-charges-terraform-and-ceo-with-fraud-145347680.html
22:45 TR Bot; charges Terraform Labs over alleged 'multi-biillion dollar' crypto fraud | Engadget
22:48 Sompi; the 486 server is now migrated to ST-DOS, so now its operating system is 100% written by myself
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; oh
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; from scratch?
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; or integrated?
22:49 Sompi; http://486servu.dy.fi
22:49 TR Bot; Samin 486-palvelin
22:49 TR News; Internal review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents Alzheimers research, colleagues allege https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/internal-review-found-falsified-data-in-stanford-presidents-alzheimers-research-colleagues-allege/
22:49 TR Bot; Review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents research, colleagues allege
22:49 Sompi; I wrote the DOS kernel, and the TCP/IP stack, and the multitasking system on top of the DOS kernel
22:50 TR News; Stanford president criticizes Daily report on alleged research falsification as replete with falsehoods https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/stanford-president-criticizes-daily-report-on-alleged-research-falsification-as-replete-with-falsehoods/
22:50 TR Bot; Stanford president criticizes Daily report on alleged falsification
22:51 DaemonFC; https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/17/ohio-rail-disaster-biden-officials-00083461
22:51 TR Bot; officials weighing civil penalties in Ohio's toxic rail disaster - POLITICO
22:52 TR News; NOPE: Josh Hawley's Social Control Media Ban Will Make Kids More Depressed https://reason.com/2023/02/16/josh-hawley-social-media-ban-ages-16-facebook-instagram-twitter-youtube/
22:52 TR Bot; Josh Hawley's Social Media Ban Will Make Kids More Depressed
22:52 DaemonFC; Pete Buttfuck didn't respond to the chemical bomb train for over a week.
22:52 TR News; Review: Mastodon Decentralizes Social Media https://reason.com/2023/02/17/review-mastodon-decentralizes-social-media/
22:52 TR Bot; Review: Mastodon Decentralizes Social Media
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; holding companies accountable sends the "wrong message" to companies
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22:54 DaemonFC; I heard that most porn sites are ignoring the Louisiana age verification law.
22:54 DaemonFC; Pornhub is the only one complying with it, and a VPN gets around it.
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; Louisiana: the internet is forr pr0n
22:55 DaemonFC; 7 more states are considering the same law.
22:55 DaemonFC; This is unfortunate.
22:55 TR News; Migrant hotels in NYC killing business, causing layoffs: merchants https://nypost.com/2023/02/18/nyc-business-owners-say-migrant-shelters-are-killing-sales/
22:55 TR Bot; NYC business owners say migrant shelters are killing sales
22:56 DaemonFC; It's like they have no idea what a VPN or Tor are.
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23:02 TR News; Chatbots are NOT search engines can CANNOT replace search engines. The media should quit lying for Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft is giving up on search. It lost. It lays off the staff, too. THAT's the actual news.
23:02 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/ohio-train-derailment-chernobyl.html
23:02 TR Bot; Chernobyl 2.0? Ohio Train Derailment Spurs Wild Speculation. - The New York Times
23:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], "Chat with Bing" is totally useless.
23:03 DaemonFC; Lost interest immediately.
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; as I said at the start
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; and doctorow later said the same
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; you want relevant pages
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; not a chatbot
23:03 DaemonFC; https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/18/how-to-keep-twitter-secure-two-factor/
23:03 TR Bot; to keep your Twitter secure without giving Elon Musk any money TechCrunch
23:04 DaemonFC; LOL
23:04 Sompi; Google's search results also now always include some AI-generated answers to questions that I didn't asks, and the answers are always wrong because the AI does not understand contexts. :/
23:04 Sompi; ask*
23:04 MinceR; sounds like the next step in search engines getting worse and worse is finally here :>
23:06 TR News; V Shell GNOME Extension Lets You Fine-Tune the Shell UX - OMG! Linux https://www.omglinux.com/v-shell-gnome-extension-is-impressive/ Source: OMG! Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.omglinux.com/v-shell-gnome-extension-is-impressive/
23:06 TR Bot; V Shell GNOME Extension Lets You Fine-Tune the Shell UX - OMG! Linux
23:06 DaemonFC; I don't see those because I don't use Google directly.
23:08 MinceR; uninstalling gnome finetunes the shell "UX" better
23:09 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mastodon App Tokodon Gets Big Update http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Linux_Mastodon_App_Tokodon_Gets_Big_Update.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Linux_Mastodon_App_Tokodon_Gets_Big_Update.gmi
23:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mastodon App Tokodon Gets Big Update
23:09 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/18/how-to-keep-twitter-secure-two-factor/
23:10 schestowitz[TR]; do not use it
23:10 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Twitter does realise that making 2FA a payers-only feature not only discriminates against the poor but also blows cover/anonymity (banks) in places where this means life or death...
23:10 DaemonFC; You can still use 2FA, but only with authenticator programs.
23:11 DaemonFC; My guess is that he's trying to cut the expense of sending a bunch of texts.
23:11 TR News; Article or SPONSORED SPAM???? https://www.computing.co.uk/sponsored/4073391/secure-hybrid-environment-microsoft-server-2022
23:11 TR Bot; Secure your hybrid working environment with Microsoft Server 2022
23:12 TR News; Many news sites became FORMER news sites
23:12 immibis; always have been
23:12 TR News; No, GNU/Linux does NOT need PowerShell! https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/tutorial/How-and-why-PowerShell-Linux-commands-differ-from-Windows
23:12 TR Bot; and why PowerShell Linux commands differ from Windows | TechTarget
23:13 immibis; DaemonFC: It's a problem for people who don't want children to have any idea what genitals do, or how to recognize they're being raped
23:13 immibis; linux powershell is python
23:14 TR News; Targeting bad passwords? Unpatched packages? Or "Linux"? https://www.makeuseof.com/new-mirai-malware-variant-targets-iot-devices-and-linux-servers/
23:14 TR Bot; New Mirai Malware Variant Targets IoT Devices and Linux Servers
23:15 TR News; How to Test APIs and Web Apps From the Linux Terminal With HTTPie https://www.makeuseof.com/test-apis-and-web-apps-from-linux-terminal-with-httpie/
23:15 TR Bot; How to Test APIs and Web Apps From the Linux Terminal With HTTPie
23:16 DaemonFC; Sex is like smoking cigarettes or something.
23:16 DaemonFC; You enjoy it for a few minutes and then it's gone and you want another one.
23:17 DaemonFC; Most vices don't being any satisfaction that goes on for very long.
23:17 TR News; Get the dimensions of image using the terminal in Linux https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/337
23:17 TR Bot; Get the dimensions of image using the terminal in Linux, Linux Terminal
23:18 techuser; Can sex robots fix the issue? And what is the reason for people to have sex with another individual instead of to masturbate?
23:19 DaemonFC; Well, some of the differences are positive and some are negative.
23:19 DaemonFC; Ideally it's a social experience, and it's different. The downsides are it can backfire and be socially awkward, or the person can turn out to be dangerous, or you could get a disease or get someone pregnant.
23:19 TR News; fudzilla seems to be dying. hardly any new stories.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 DaemonFC; Many people just go bar hopping and that leads to issues.
23:20 DaemonFC; Or an app.
23:20 DaemonFC; It's an incorrect strategy.
23:20 DaemonFC; You typically don't meet anything good on an app.
23:21 DaemonFC; It's like opening a portal to Hell.
23:22 DaemonFC; Every physical senation is sort of like that. Pain can be very bad, but it's mostly "in the moment".
23:22 DaemonFC; Later you just note how bad you remember it being, but you don't actually feel the pain again just by thinking about it.
23:22 TR News; "EP grant numbers for 2022 are down to 81.762, another 24.8% decrease." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/
23:22 TR Bot; Quality at the EPO One Modest and one Serious Proposal - Kluwer Patent Blog
23:23 TR News; "Another, separate comment. You mentioned artificial intelligence. It goes without saying that the management of the EPO is interested in artificial intelligence, if is very fashionable at the moment." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/
23:23 DaemonFC; Sex works like that, hopefully not pain, but you sort of notate whether you liked it or not but can't recall the specifics.
23:23 DaemonFC; So you do it again.
23:23 DaemonFC; It's sort of like a sensation amnesia.
23:24 TR News; "France does not examine novelty or inventive step. Check the instructions for the examiners published at the INPI web site. If they did, they would need vastly more examiners than what they presently have." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/
23:24 DaemonFC; You do it again to remember exactly what it was like, then you forget.
23:24 DaemonFC; Robots? Well, I guess that's one way to live your life.
23:25 DaemonFC; MinceR, The neighbor was practicing his guitar again.
23:25 DaemonFC; So I turned the Bose up and put Twilight Zone by Golden Earring on a loop.
23:25 TR News; "You must be a friend of Zoobab." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/#comment-41011
23:25 TR Bot; Quality at the EPO One Modest and one Serious Proposal - Kluwer Patent Blog
23:27 techuser; IMHO apps are better than bars. Bars are for drinking, dating apps are for dating.
23:27 DaemonFC; Not Grindr.
23:27 DaemonFC; There's some real freaks of nature on Grindr.
23:27 DaemonFC; When Stephen Fry recommended it I about spit out my coffee.
23:27 techuser; At least can address the harassment issue.
23:27 DaemonFC; Like he's on live TV recommending a gay hookup app.
23:28 DaemonFC; My point is that sex with random trash is bound to be a disappointment.
23:28 DaemonFC; Regardless of what you think it'll be at the time.
23:28 DaemonFC; But people today are so hollow and cynical.
23:29 DaemonFC; Cynical, I get that.
23:29 DaemonFC; But what I can't stand are stupid people.
23:30 techuser; What is the difference between "trash" and "not trash"?
23:30 DaemonFC; Stupid and one-dimensional sort of go hand in hand as one-dimensional is a failure of the imagination.
23:30 DaemonFC; <techuser> What is the difference between "trash" and "not trash"?
23:30 DaemonFC; Meh, skeevy. Fucks around. On drugs, so on.
23:30 DaemonFC; Nasty cigarettes.
23:31 DaemonFC; Some sort of criminal. (I mean actual criminal.)
23:32 DaemonFC; When I say criminal, I mean they have court for something every month because they shirk all of their obligations and they're not even smart enough to hide their shit from the police.
23:32 DaemonFC; Associating with the wrong people? You won't ever pull them up. They'll pull you down.
23:33 DaemonFC; Set some standards. Say "If I can't do at least THIS well, I won't bother.".
23:33 DaemonFC; I wish I had done that sooner.
23:33 DaemonFC; It would have spared me some real psychos and assholes.
23:35 DaemonFC; I hope the technology to replace human partners with machines that simulate the positives arrives at some point.
23:36 DaemonFC; Lots of people end up in toxic and abusive relationships because of the human need to not be alone.
23:36 TR News; Stress Wrnings: Be aware of your resources https://cphpost.dk/2023-02-18/opinion/stress-warnings-be-aware-of-your-resources/
23:36 TR Bot; Stress Wrnings: Be aware of your resources - The Post The Post
23:36 techuser; Many humans are stupid to even use condoms, would they use more complex tech?
23:36 DaemonFC; Just having some positive feedback instead of "I'm tired! I have a headache! I don't like this food you cooked me! I told you ten times to take out this trash!"
23:37 DaemonFC; I mean, like nag nag nag.
23:37 DaemonFC; That's the worst of it, I think. Some people just like to hear themselves complain and they trick you into a relationship, have kids with you, then you never get a moment's peace.
23:37 techuser; I don't get how are sex and marriages meant to be related. Religions? Abolish them, they are harmful.
23:38 DaemonFC; The government punishes people for not getting married.
23:38 DaemonFC; Things like higher taxes.
23:39 DaemonFC; <techuser> Many humans are stupid to even use condoms, would they use more complex tech?
23:39 DaemonFC; We all have things we're really bad at.
23:39 DaemonFC; But yeah, most of the disasters going on go back to overpopulation.
23:39 DaemonFC; People not bothering to fix a mess and handing it to their kids again.
23:40 DaemonFC; I was talking to the podiatrist this morning and he mentioned nuclear power of all things and those molten salt reactors Bill Gates was talking about.
23:40 DaemonFC; I mentioned a list of reasons why they're too dangerous and unreliable, and we have reactor designs that could go into use right now that are extremely safe.
23:41 techuser; I know a brainwashed teenager who wants to have biological kids.
23:41 DaemonFC; Gates wants molten salt because he owns a company that has patents on it.
23:41 DaemonFC; He can milk the government for money regardless of if we ever get any power out of one or not.
23:41 TR News; Can the Mac Mini (M2, 2023) run Linux? https://www.xda-developers.com/mac-mini-m2-2023-run-linux/ Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.xda-developers.com/mac-mini-m2-2023-run-linux/
23:41 TR Bot; Can the Mac Mini (M2, 2023) run Linux?
23:41 DaemonFC; I mentioned the CANDU reactor as the one I think we should be using.
23:41 DaemonFC; With a brief description of it.
23:42 DaemonFC; He asked if it still used Uranium. I said, yeah but it doesn't need to be as enriched and it doesn't produce a lot of waste. It needs heavy water, but we should be able to come up with plenty of that.
23:42 DaemonFC; He asked what heavy water was, so I explained deuterium oxide.
23:43 TR News; Exploiting long-patched vulnerabilities that aren't even in Linux https://www.csoonline.com/article/3688570/new-mirai-botnet-variant-v3g4-targets-linux-servers-iot-devices.html
23:43 TR Bot; New Mirai botnet variant V3G4 targets Linux servers, IoT devices | CSO Online
23:43 DaemonFC; I actually appreciated that episode of Stargate SG-1 where they run into Space Nazis (basically) who are losing a war and need a supply of heavy water from Earth.
23:43 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
23:44 MinceR; :)
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23:44 DaemonFC; Hammond realizes (thanks to O'Neill) what they are and denies it even though they lose the war and we don't get their cool toys, and his superiors are not amused by this.
23:45 DaemonFC; Remember they replaced Hammond for an episode and the guy they replaced him with caused a near-catastrophe on his first day on the job.
23:46 DaemonFC; They wanted someone who would take shortcuts to design new weapons and he did, and he ended up destroying an entire planet (uninhabited) and almost took Earth along with it.
23:46 DaemonFC; <techuser> I know a brainwashed teenager who wants to have biological kids.
23:46 DaemonFC; Most people do.
23:46 DaemonFC; They consider leaving kids behind as their "legacy".
23:47 DaemonFC; Their legacy then ends up being constant work to feed something that says "I hate you!" every day and is being brought home by the cops.
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23:48 MinceR; overpopulation, what a legacy
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: it wasn't always like this
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: go back 100 years
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; some governments suppoorted parents
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; financial benefits of sorts
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; and kids helped parents
23:50 MinceR; here they pay people to reproduce, effectively
23:50 techuser; Hope overpopulation results in eventual self-destruction. The least evil if the humans can't understand otherwise.
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; in some cultures this still happens
23:50 MinceR; 8 billion isn't enough, apparently
23:50 MinceR; i'm with techuser
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; yes, let me find you a link
23:50 schestowitz[TR]; sent by email days ago
23:50 MinceR; it will involve lots of suffering, but apparently that's what most humans desire
23:51 DaemonFC; That's what happened with my cousins.
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/16/aging-populations-and-great-power-politics-the-problem-is-for-the-elites-not-the-masses/
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; <p>We recently got new data showing that China?s population shrunk last year. It is now projected to see its population continue to decline through the rest of this century.</p>
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; <p>This is being portrayed as a disaster for China. A similar disaster has already hit Japan, South Korea, Italy and many other wealthy countries. People in these countries are having fewer kids than they did in prior decades. Unless they make up for their low birth rates with high rates of immigration, they will see declining populations, which we are supposed to believe is a terrible disaster. In fact, althoug
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; h declining populations may be a problem for political leaders who want to be more important in international politics, they are not bad news for the people of a country.</p>
23:51 TR Bot; Populations and Great Power Politics: the Problem is for the Elites, Not the Masses - CounterPunch.org
23:51 DaemonFC; They always adopt and they get problem kids that drug users abandoned or something.
23:51 DaemonFC; And it's just bad blood.
23:51 MinceR; or problem kids who were born human
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; not a new observation btw
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; but a new one, again
23:52 DaemonFC; You know? You can take them away from the parents and they may never know their parents, but then they're having behavior problems, getting arrested for the same shit the parents did.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; new person = new future
23:52 DaemonFC; No matter how well you try to raise them.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; new future = lifetime of labour
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; labour = capital
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; capital = debt
23:52 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; so you can issue more debt off of newly-born humans
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; and we know who profits from debt or where the dmoney created will go to
23:52 DaemonFC; Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. All of these lead to the Dark Side of the Force.
23:52 *Now talking on #techrights
23:52 DaemonFC; Yes, yes.
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23:52 schestowitz[TR]; likely offshore bank accounts of rich people
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23:52 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
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23:53 MinceR; oh, no, the side where you get cool powers that do something and also get to learn spells?
23:53 *rabbipires is now known as rowbee
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23:53 MinceR; or alchemy, or whatever
23:53 DaemonFC; Force lightning.
23:53 MinceR; also the side where you end up if you keep using Force Slam on evildoers
23:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, Palpy managed to get so good at Force Lightning that he could blast ships out of the orbit of a planet with it.
23:54 TR News; Ober 90% of Phoronix articles this year are of no importance at all.
23:54 MinceR; (from experience :> )
23:54 DaemonFC; That tells you something, right?
23:55 TR News; a lot of phoronix is now lyrical gitlog or github log (links to Microsoft proprietary prison)
23:55 DaemonFC; He could have killed Luke Skywalker quickly and he'd have been done with it.
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: rianne was reciting you last night
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; "can you imagine having kids? because i can't"
23:55 MinceR; "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
23:55 DaemonFC; By taking his time to torture him, he ended up dying himself because Vader saw an opportunity.
23:55 DaemonFC; <MinceR> "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
23:55 DaemonFC; Your faith in your friends is yours!
23:55 MinceR; :>
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23:56 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: rianne was reciting you last night
23:56 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> "can you imagine having kids? because i can't"
23:56 DaemonFC; Context?
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23:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Canonical Announces General Availability of Real-Time Ubuntu Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/14/Canonical_Announces_General_Availability_of_Real_Time_Ubuntu_Ke.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/14/Canonical_Announces_General_Availability_of_Real_Time_Ubuntu_Ke.gmi
23:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical Announces General Availability of Real-Time Ubuntu Kernel
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; the figures from the gov here
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; seems a single kid costs more than 2 adults
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; effectively doubling cost of living
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; for couples
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; so you must work until you are quite old
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; and work hard
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; the latest figures say that childcare is 900 pounds a month just for childcare outside home(like, if you work), per month
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; two kids, 1800
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; plus bills on top
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; if it was a car, you'd say
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; "ok, then sell the car"
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; but kids are not a car
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; many people reportedly sell their pets
23:59 MinceR; kids are not as useful as a car
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; surge in calls to animal charities
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; as people give up the pets, cannot afford them anymore
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: and kids often means you need a car
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