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00:06 TR News; The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Gemini address: The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It
00:07 TR News; The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/the-name-linux-misused-by-people-who-never-even-used-it/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/the-name-linux-misused-by-people-who-never-even-used-it/
00:08 TR Bot; The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Techrights
00:16 TR News; Magic cookies gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2023-06-15-cookies
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00:17 TR News; "I recently feel in need of a substantial daily routine change. The type of change that isnt just I wanna read more books or I wanna do more for my hobby or "I will move my workout to the mornings now"." gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/cravingchange
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00:18 TR News; "But the street and tram isn't the only type of public. There's schools as well, playgrounds, and all that. And that takes me back to when boys also controlled the school experience." gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/inpublic
00:19 TR News; "I was hoping that someone would start a FreeBSD subspace here. I just installed 13.2 onto real hardware for the first time in a while. FreeBSD used to be my everyday OS for a few years, and while I had my reasons for walking away I have to say I did miss it." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/s/FreeBSD/2014
00:19 TR News; "I think it would be fun to try running my own instance for private use, but Im not sure I understand exactly how to launch gmcapsule. My brain hasnt been working at full capacity the last couple of weeks, though. So Ill just leave these here for Future Me to take a look at." gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/gemlog/2023-06-18-links.gmi
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; Privacy in Gemini Revisited gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2023/202306/20230616-privacy-in-gemini-revisited.gmi
00:21 TR News; "Here is a summary of my progress for writing OpenKuBSD. So far, I've had a few blockers but I've been able to find solutions, more or less simple and nice, but overall I'm really excited about how the project is turning out." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openkubsd-progress-1.gmi
00:24 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
00:24 TR News; (NEW): Station P2S mini-PC offers support for PoE and 4G LTE http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Station_P2S_mini_PC_offers_support_for_PoE_and_4G_LTE.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Station_P2S_mini_PC_offers_support_for_PoE_and_4G_LTE.gmi
00:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Station P2S mini-PC offers support for PoE and 4G LTE
00:27 TR News; Murdoch tabloid pushing "TikTok" and "TikTokers" every day lately. PR services for China? https://nypost.com/2023/06/16/cvs-actually-stands-for-something-and-most-people-have-no-clue-after-60-years/
00:27 TR Bot; CVS actually stands for something -- and most people have no clue after 60 years
00:27 TR News; Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 8: YouTube, Google, and Alphabet as the Wests Political Opportunists and Enemies of Public Health http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/a-western-gulag-vs-public-health/
00:27 TR Bot; Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 8: YouTube, Google, and Alphabet as the Wests Political Opportunists and Enemies of Public Health | Techrights
00:28 TR News; TikTok, Shein and Other Companies Distance Themselves From China https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/15/business/economy/china-business-tiktok-shein.html
00:28 TR Bot; TikTok, Shein and Other Companies Distance Themselves From China - The New York Times
00:29 TR News; "feel wealthier" is not a thing; they're not https://qz.com/american-millennials-and-genzers-feel-wealthier-than-bo-1850543873
00:29 TR Bot; US Millennials feel wealthier than Boomers
00:29 TR News; Pluralistic: Gulag makes millions on paid abortion disinformation (15 June 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/06/15/paid-medical-disinformation/
00:29 TR Bot; Pluralistic: Google makes millions on paid abortion disinformation (15 June 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
00:32 TR News; Raising voices on video calls https://rubenerd.com/raising-voices-on-video-calls/
00:32 TR Bot; Raising voices on video calls
00:32 elusive_woman; i would suck the unabomber's dick if he were still alive
00:34 TR News; "false narratives calling it unsuccessful fail to gain traction on Twitter" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-war-report-counteroffensive-narratives/
00:35 TR Bot; Russian War Report: Anti-Ukrainian counteroffensive narratives fail to go viral - Atlantic Council
00:44 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://federalnewsnetwork.com/technology-news/2023/06/energy-department-among-federal-agencies-breached-by-russian-ransomware-gang/
00:44 TR Bot; A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies | Federal News Network
00:46 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/15/russian-man-arrested-alleged-involvement-lockbit-ransomware-gang/
00:46 TR Bot; man arrested for alleged involvement with LockBit ransomware gang - SiliconANGLE
00:47 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/cl0p-gang-claimed-to-have-hit-many-us-agencies-through-moveit-flaw.html
00:47 TR Bot; - Cl0p gang claimed to have hit many US agencies through MOVEit flaw
00:55 TR News; Prosecutor Seeks Lengthy Prison Term For Mother Of Chechen Opposition Bloggers https://www.rferl.org/a/chechnya-musayeva-lengthy-sentence-yangulbayev-kadyrov-opposition/32460909.html
00:55 TR Bot; Prosecutor Seeks Lengthy Prison Term For Mother Of Chechen Opposition Bloggers
00:56 TR News; They are both proponents of back doors rather than security https://www.securityweek.com/cisa-nsa-share-guidance-on-hardening-baseboard-management-controllers/
00:56 TR Bot; NSA Share Guidance on Hardening Baseboard Management Controllers - SecurityWeek
00:57 TR News; Barracuda Zero-Day Attacks Attributed to Chinese Cyberespionage Group https://www.securityweek.com/barracuda-zero-day-attacks-attributed-to-chinese-cyberespionage-group/
00:57 TR Bot; Zero-Day Attacks Attributed to Chinese Cyberespionage Group - SecurityWeek
00:57 TR News; Fake Security Researcher Accounts Pushing Malware Disguised as Zero-Day Exploits https://www.securityweek.com/fake-security-researcher-accounts-pushing-malware-disguised-as-zero-day-exploits/
00:57 TR Bot; Security Researcher Accounts Pushing Malware Disguised as Zero-Day Exploits - SecurityWeek
00:58 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/us-organizations-paid-91-million-to-lockbit-ransomware-gang/
00:58 TR Bot; Organizations Paid $91 Million to LockBit Ransomware Gang - SecurityWeek
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:00 TR News; Andy Wingo: parallel futures in mobile application development https://wingolog.org/archives/2023/06/15/parallel-futures-in-mobile-application-development
01:00 TR Bot; parallel futures in mobile application development -- wingolog
01:01 TR News; Mozilla Thunderbird: Thunderbird for Android / K-9 Mail: May 2023 Progress Report https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/06/thunderbird-for-android-k-9-mail-may-2023-progress-report/
01:01 TR Bot; Thunderbird for Android / K-9 Mail: May 2023 Progress Report
01:03 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/15/clop-moveit-hacking-victims-now-include-department-energy-facilities/
01:03 TR Bot; MOVEit hacking victims now include Department of Energy facilities - SiliconANGLE
01:04 TR News; The Top 21 Open-Source Tools for Securing Your Linux Server https://www.fossmint.com/linux-security-tools/
01:04 TR Bot; 21 Best Open-Source Tools for Securing Your Linux Server
01:05 TR News; Law firm HWL Ebsworth in a world of pain after Alphv attack https://itwire.com/open-sauce/law-firm-hwl-ebsworth-in-a-world-of-pain-after-alphv-attack.html
01:05 TR Bot; - Law firm HWL Ebsworth in a world of pain after Alphv attack
01:06 TR News; How to install Wireguard VPN in Debian? https://www.librebyte.net/en/security-and-cryptography/how-to-install-wireguard-vpn-in-debian/
01:06 TR Bot; How to install Wireguard VPN in Debian? | LibreByte
01:08 TR News; Corrupt MIT 'press' is still issuing SPAM for 'Microsoft India'... disguised as 'articles' (noting funding) https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/06/15/1074755/deciphering-cybersecurity-mesh-architecture/
01:08 TR Bot; Deciphering cybersecurity mesh architecture | MIT Technology Review
01:10 TR News; TTABlog Test: How Did These Three Appeals from Section 2(d) Refusals Turn Out? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/06/ttablog-test-how-did-these-three_15.html
01:10 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: How Did These Three Appeals from Section 2(d) Refusals Turn Out?
01:10 TR News; Citus 11.3 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/citus-113-released-2657/
01:10 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Citus 11.3 Released!
01:12 TR News; Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 9: Name Your Poison http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/youtube-should-be-avoided/
01:12 TR Bot; Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 9: Name Your Poison | Techrights
01:15 TR News; How to run yugabytedb in docker and docker-compose https://citizix.com/how-to-run-yugabytedb-in-docker-and-docker-compose/
01:15 TR Bot; How to run yugabytedb in docker and docker-compose
01:15 TR News; How To Encrypt A Drive In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-encrypt-a-drive-in-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
01:15 TR Bot; To Encrypt A Drive In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Itsubuntu
01:16 TR News; How to Install ProcessWire CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 https://linuxhostsupport.com/blog/how-to-install-processwire-cms-on-ubuntu-22-04/
01:16 TR Bot; to Install ProcessWire CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 | LinuxHostSupport
01:18 TR News; How to install default Ubuntu 22.04s desktop environment? https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-default-ubuntu-22-04s-desktop-environment/
01:18 TR Bot; How to install default Ubuntu 22.04's desktop environment?
01:18 TR News; How to Install Okular on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-okular-on-linux-mint/
01:18 TR Bot; to Install Okular on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable
01:18 TR News; How to Install Kdenlive on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-kdenlive-on-linux-mint/
01:18 TR Bot; to Install Kdenlive on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable
01:19 TR News; How to Install XWiki on Debian 11 https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-xwiki-on-debian-11/
01:19 TR Bot; to Install XWiki on Debian 11 - RoseHosting
01:20 TR News; How to Install Joplin on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-joplin-on-linux-mint/
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 TR Bot; to Install Joplin on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable
01:21 TR News; This is malware that steals all your passwords without consent. Do not even install it. https://www.debugpoint.com/how-to-install-edge-ubuntu-linux/
01:21 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/how-to-install-edge-ubuntu-linux/ )
01:24 TR News; Government Contractors and Corporate Liability for Fraud https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/06/16/corporate-liability-for-fraud/
01:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive Government Contractors and Corporate Liability for Fraud
01:26 TR News; Red Hat keeps promoting Microsoft's proprietary spyware instead of competing against that https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/06/15/how-use-ansible-create-vm-azure
01:26 TR Bot; How to use Ansible to create a VM on Azure | Red Hat Developer
01:27 TR News; PostgreSQL Conference Europe 2023 Call for Papers https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-conference-europe-2023-call-for-papers-2659/
01:27 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Conference Europe 2023 Call for Papers
01:28 TR News; How to Create Users in PostgreSQL https://tecadmin.net/create-users-in-postgresql/
01:28 TR Bot; How to Create Users in PostgreSQL TecAdmin
01:28 TR News; CloudNativePG 1.20.1, 1.19.3 and 1.18.5 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1201-1193-and-1185-released-2656/
01:28 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.20.1, 1.19.3 and 1.18.5 Released!
01:29 TR News; PL/Java 1.6.5 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pljava-165-released-2658/
01:29 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PL/Java 1.6.5 released
01:30 TR News; Iran's 'Quantum' Computer is Apparently Powered by an Arm Development Board https://www.tomshardware.com/news/iran-quantum-computer-arm-dev-board
01:30 TR Bot; Iran's 'Quantum' Computer is Apparently Powered by an Arm Development Board | Tom's Hardware
01:32 TR News; TTAB Issues a "Final Pretrial Conference Assignment Order" in Red Bull Opposition http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/06/ttab-issues-final-pretrial-conference.html
01:32 TR Bot; The TTABlog: TTAB Issues a "Final Pretrial Conference Assignment Order" in Red Bull Opposition
01:32 TR News; How to Claim Google Class Action Privacy Settlement Money https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/14/technology/google-class-action-settlement-claim.html
01:32 TR Bot; How to Claim Google Class Action Privacy Settlement Money - The New York Times
01:36 TR News; Hired to steal em all: Man in Japan arrested for stealing 1,500 Pokemon cards worth $11k https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/hired-to-steal-em-all-man-in-japan-arrested-for-stealing-1500-pokemon-cards-worth-11k
01:36 TR Bot; Hired to steal em all: Man in Japan arrested for stealing 1,500 Pokemon cards worth $11k | The Straits Times
01:36 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL Releases and Events http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/PostgreSQL_Releases_and_Events.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/PostgreSQL_Releases_and_Events.gmi
01:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL Releases and Events
01:37 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi
01:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
01:37 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/several_howtos_from_the_day.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/several_howtos_from_the_day.gmi
01:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
01:37 TR News; (NEW): Blue Recorder - A Simple Video Recording Tool for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Blue_Recorder_A_Simple_Video_Recording_Tool_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Blue_Recorder_A_Simple_Video_Recording_Tool_for_Linux.gmi
01:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Blue Recorder - A Simple Video Recording Tool for Linux
01:37 TR News; (NEW): YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software Invidious to Shut Down http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/YouTube_Tells_Open_Source_Privacy_Software_Invidious_to_Shut_Do.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/YouTube_Tells_Open_Source_Privacy_Software_Invidious_to_Shut_Do.gmi
01:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software Invidious to Shut Down
01:38 TR News; Protecting the Indian Child Welfare Act at the State Level https://www.aclu.org/news/racial-justice/protecting-indian-child-welfare-act-icwa-state-level-brackeen-v-haaland
01:38 TR Bot; Protecting the Indian Child Welfare Act at the State Level | ACLU
01:39 TR News; Jonathan Dowland: containers as first-class network citizens https://jmtd.net/log/podman_network/
01:39 TR Bot; jmtd log containers as first-class network citizens
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01:40 TR News; John Goerzen: Using git-annex for Data Archiving https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10516-using-git-annex-for-data-archiving
01:40 TR Bot; Using git-annex for Data Archiving | The Changelog
01:44 TR News; HMRC: 4 Weeks Have Passed and It Did Not Even Respond to Report of Tax Fraud at Sirius Open Source, a UK Government Contractor http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/hmrc-4-weeks-later/
01:44 TR Bot; HMRC: 4 Weeks Have Passed and It Did Not Even Respond to Report of Tax Fraud at Sirius Open Source, a UK Government Contractor | Techrights
01:44 TR News; Police Out of Control (or Oversight) Part 9: Waiting for Godot http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/waiting-for-godot/
01:44 TR Bot; Police Out of Control (or Oversight) Part 9: Waiting for Godot | Techrights
01:44 TR News; Recitation of a Previously Unappreciated Mechanism of Action Does Not Overcome Prima Facie Obviousness of Drug Combination https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/06/unappreciated-obviousness-combination.html
01:44 TR Bot; Recitation of a Previously Unappreciated Mechanism of Action Does Not Overcome Prima Facie Obviousness of Drug Combination | Patently-O
01:46 TR News; Bank windfall profit tax may weaken Lithuanias reputation IMF https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2014397/bank-windfall-profit-tax-may-weaken-lithuania-s-reputation-imf
01:46 TR Bot; Bank windfall profit tax may weaken Lithuanias reputation IMF - LRT
01:46 TR News; Lobbyists run todays NDPand theyre warping the partys politics https://breachmedia.ca/ndp-lobbyists/
01:46 TR Bot; Lobbyists run todays NDPand theyre warping the partys politics The Breach
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:00 TR News; Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/government-defrauding-workers-via-contractors/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/government-defrauding-workers-via-contractors/
02:00 TR Bot; Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers | Techrights
02:02 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1948695
02:02 TR Bot; The US Navy, NATO, and NASA are using a shady Chinese companys encryption chips | Ars Technica
02:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ye can't catch up to Russia, Russia doesn't stand still, it constantly devolves.
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; that too
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; we will also
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; as the system becomes less stable, it adapts
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; by all means possible
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; to avert revolutions
02:09 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D624.jpg
02:09 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D950.jpg
02:11 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/262625
02:11 TR Bot; Putin orders creation of psychiatric institute to study the behavior of LGBT people
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; oh dear..
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; SOVIETS were known for this
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; diagnosing dissidents as a mental issue
02:12 XRevan86; schestowitz: Actually, this practice is back.
02:12 XRevan86; For a while now.
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; you have to be CRAZY to not love putinb
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; how can you NOT support PUTIN'S POLICIES?
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; What is WRONG with you?
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
02:13 TR Bot; [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; Jim [Z]emlin
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; Operation Zemlin
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; Special operation
02:15 TR News; Gemini Links 16/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, s/FreeBSD, and Privacy in Gemini Revisited | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/privacy-in-gemini-revisited/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/privacy-in-gemini-revisited/
02:15 TR Bot; Gemini Links 16/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, s/FreeBSD, and Privacy in Gemini Revisited | Techrights
02:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: "you have to be CRAZY to not love putin" <- Be sane like Putin, have the corridors disinfected: https://youtu.be/38Im5_Tc11g
02:19 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=38Im5_Tc11g
02:19 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | . . - Invidious
02:19 XRevan86; That's today, yes
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; :/
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; we are copying you
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; cannot even report crime here anymore
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; unless you have very high level connections
02:20 XRevan86; schestowitz: In Putin's Russia crime reports YOU
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; reporting crime is...
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; "discrediting the state"
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; assange is in prison
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; he published information about war crime
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; that discredits the state
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; so he is a criminal, or something...
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; russian military commits war crimes
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; mention it and.... "discrediting the military"
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; we should just "STFU"
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; and hope that t he war crimes don't impact us personally
02:23 schestowitz[TR]; and then "live in peace"
02:23 TR News; Links 16/06/2023: PL/Java 1.6.5 and Citus 11.3 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/citus-11-3-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/citus-11-3-released/
02:24 TR Bot; Links 16/06/2023: PL/Java 1.6.5 and Citus 11.3 Released | Techrights
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; devil's advocate:
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; why bother?
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; you will get in troublke
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; just accept the crimes
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; in fact, participate in them
02:25 schestowitz[TR]; you can become rich
02:25 XRevan86; What is Assange accused of exactly anyway?
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's like this
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2008: he is a hero
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; he exposes crimes mostly outside US
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; 2010: he is controversial
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; because he started releasing material on war crimes
02:27 schestowitz[TR]; then he is "rapist"
02:28 XRevan86; I mean formally.
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; because the girls who chase him make claims
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; after the cases are formally withdrawn the US unseals espionmage act "case"
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; because he communicated with Manning
02:28 schestowitz[TR]; so he in in arbitrary detention in the UK
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; manning is doing almost nothing anymore
02:29 schestowitz[TR]; so they left her alone
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; ellsberg can die from cancer any day now
02:30 schestowitz[TR]; (even tomorrow)
02:31 AdmFubar; https://www.thedailybeast.com/beware-the-racism-in-the-machine-of-ai
02:31 TR Bot; Beware the Racism in the Machine of A.I.
02:31 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
02:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
02:31 TR News; (NEW): Programming: Mobile Development and git-annex http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Mobile_Development_and_git_annex.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Mobile_Development_and_git_annex.gmi
02:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming: Mobile Development and git-annex
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02:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; oh
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/16/daniel-ellsberg-pentagon-papers-whistleblower-dies-at-92
02:33 TR Bot; Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistleblower dies at 92 | Politics News | Al Jazeera
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; today
02:33 schestowitz[TR]; he died TODAY
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; "16 Jun 2023
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; '
02:34 AdmFubar; would this stop his grabbing action?? https://www.alternet.org/trump-approved-miss-univese-transgender/
02:34 TR Bot; approved of ending Miss Universes ban on transgender contestants: report - Alternet.org
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; I was about to show an article
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; about him expecting to die in 6 months
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; and I found this
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; Ellsberg HAS jus6t died
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; ""Daniel Ellsberg, a whistleblower famed for exposing government deception over the United Statess war in Vietnam and an outspoken opponent of nuclear weapons, has died at the age of 92 from pancreatic cancer.
02:34 schestowitz[TR]; The Washington Post was the first to report that Ellsberg died on Friday, citing a statement from his family.
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; My dear father, #DanielEllsberg, died this morning June 16 at 1:24 AM, four months after his diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. His family surrounded him as he took his last breath. He had no pain and died peacefully at home, his son Robert said in a Twitter post on Friday.
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; so when i said tomorrow I was being optimistic
02:35 schestowitz[TR]; he did not make it
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2023/mar/04/ellsberg-reveals-he-has-months-to-live/
02:36 TR Bot; Ellsberg reveals he has months to live
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; "Ellsberg posted on his Facebook page Thursday that doctors diagnosed the 91-year-old with inoperable pancreatic cancer on Feb. 17 following medical scans.
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; "
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; did not last 6 months
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; 4
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160623.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160623.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-160623.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-160623.txt
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02:45 XRevan86; https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1669767621372248082 "The Kremlin's chief propagandist Vladimir Solovyov argued not long ago that Ukraine was "following Washington's orders," but now he has suddenly changed his mind and announced on his program that the opposite is true"
02:45 TR Bot; response
02:45 XRevan86; schestowitz: Anyway, we all know who's in control.
02:46 XRevan86; The U.S. are a puppet of Zelensky.
02:47 XRevan86; (Solovyov forgot that Zelensky's president only since 2019, but who cares)
02:48 MinceR; lol
02:48 schestowitz[TR]; Russia invaded in 2014
02:49 AdmFubar; https://front.moveon.org/how-moveon-is-working-to-support-the-lgbtq-community/
02:50 TR Bot; How MoveOn Is Working to Support the LGBTQ+ Community
02:50 XRevan86; schestowitz: Correct.
02:50 AdmFubar; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/06/the-uk-government-with-labour-partys-help-just-took-another-big-step-toward-outlawing-peaceful-political-protest.html
02:50 TR Bot; The UK's Tory Government, With Labour's Help, Just Took Another Big Step Toward Outlawing Peaceful Political Protest | naked capitalism
02:50 TR News; Windows TCO https://cyberscoop.com/energy-department-cl0p-moveit-cisa/
02:50 TR Bot; Energy Department entities breached as part of massive MOVEit compromise | CyberScoop
02:50 MinceR; obviously, Zelensky was also controlling Moscovia, forcing them to invade in 2014
02:51 XRevan86; MinceR: He baited them in.
02:51 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights
02:51 MinceR; remember, ruscists keep telling us that putler is not in control of his own actions
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; with comedy routines
02:51 MinceR; and apparently this is what makes an alleged leader admirable.
02:51 XRevan86; MinceR: There's historical footage: https://youtu.be/HwuYGCUORuE
02:51 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=HwuYGCUORuE
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; he had no choice
02:51 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | [Lyrics] The Lion King - The Hula Dance - Invidious
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; the "comedian" has "biolabs"
02:51 MinceR; so, from these things it would seem to follow that Biden is worthy of admiration for the same reason: being totally controlled by Zelensky.
02:53 XRevan86; Pumba's Zelensky and Timon's Arestovich.
02:53 MinceR; Timon brings Timon's Axe to my mind
02:53 MinceR; https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Timon%27s_Axe
02:53 TR Bot; Axe - The Doom Wiki at DoomWiki.org
02:54 XRevan86; Just because both Timon and Arestovich look good in a dress.
02:54 *XRevan86 doesn't know if there's anyone here who got the joke %).
02:54 MinceR; "I'm here for my ballet classes. I should warn you, I look damn good in a tutu."
02:56 XRevan86; MinceR: Where's that from?
02:56 MinceR; Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series
02:57 XRevan86; https://politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-to-write-six-figure-column-for-the-daily-mail/
02:57 TR Bot; Boris Johnson lands six-figure Daily Mail column. Good luck getting him to file on time POLITICO
02:57 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/world/uk/boris-johnson-gets-new-job-daily-mail-columnist-2023-06-16/
02:57 TR Bot; Ethics body accuses UK's Johnson of new breach for taking newspaper job without vetting
02:57 XRevan86; That didn't take long.
02:58 XRevan86; MinceR: They have an anime about a card game?
02:58 MinceR; yes, they have a manga about a children's card game that didn't exist back when the manga started, and they have an anime adaptation
02:58 MinceR; and then they actually created the children's card game
02:58 MinceR; and The Abridged Series is a parody of the anime
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 *XRevan86 checked the first episode of the Abridged Series, and the interlace made me look for which key binding deinterlaces in MPV.
02:59 MinceR; lol
03:00 MinceR; there's a remake of the pilot, which looks and sounds better
03:01 XRevan86; Boris Johnson does not strike me as a journalist type to be honest.
03:01 MinceR; apparently it's "Pilot (Redux)"
03:01 MinceR; well, the Daily Heil doesn't strike me as an outlet where journalism applies anyway
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 309909 total Total number of pages in capsule: 46754 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 3 months 8 days ago
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:04 AdmFubar; then he will get a no figure...
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:05 AdmFubar; https://restofworld.org/2023/ifood-brazil-delivery-app/
03:05 TR Bot; Brazils former Uber Eats competitor, iFood, focuses on coupons - Rest of World
03:06 MinceR; "iFood" "you food?"
03:06 AdmFubar; we all food
03:06 MinceR; worm food
03:06 AdmFubar; worm burgers
03:07 AdmFubar; https://restofworld.org/2023/used-iphones-india-delhi-gaffar-market/
03:07 TR Bot; Used iPhone sales boom in India - Rest of World
03:10 AdmFubar; https://restofworld.org/2023/exporter-meta-trusted-partner-program-slow-decline/
03:10 TR Bot; The slow decline of Metas Trusted Partner program - Rest of World
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03:27 AdmFubar; https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/16/electric-truck-maker-nikola-to-cut-23-of-workforce/
03:27 TR Bot; truck maker Nikola to cut 23% of workforce | TechCrunch
03:46 TR News; Collective consistency is the answer to Beijings trade coercion https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/australia-must-stick-to-its-guns-on-ending-the-trade-war-with-china/
03:46 TR Bot; Collective consistency is the answer to Beijings trade coercion | The Strategist
03:47 TR News; Chinese hackers 'breached hundreds of public, private networks' globally https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230615-chinese-hackers-breached-hundreds-of-public-private-networks-globally
03:47 TR Bot; Chinese hackers 'breached hundreds of public, private networks' globally
03:50 TR News; Retrieving Notes from Remote: A Guide for Git Users https://linuxconcept.com/retrieving-notes-from-remote-a-guide-for-git-users/
03:50 TR Bot; Mastering Git Notes Retrieval from Remote
03:50 TR News; Pushing Git Notes to Remote Repositories: A Practical Approach https://linuxconcept.com/pushing-git-notes-to-remote-repositories-a-practical-approach/
03:50 TR Bot; Pushing Git Notes to Remote Repositories: A Comprehensive Guide
03:51 TR News; Commit Tagging: Enhancing Repository Management in Git https://linuxconcept.com/commit-tagging-enhancing-repository-management-in-git/
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03:53 TR News; How to Upgrade to Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria https://www.linuxcapable.com/upgrade-linux-mint-minor-release/
03:53 TR Bot; to Upgrade to Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria - LinuxCapable
03:54 TR News; Gary Benson: Use stdbuf to tee without buffering https://gbenson.net/stdbuf-tee-without-buffering/
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03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:59 TR News; How Does Open-Source and Cloud Storage Synergy Drive Innovation? https://www.linuxlinks.com/open-source-cloud-storage-synergy/
03:59 TR Bot; Does Open-Source and Cloud Storage Synergy Drive Innovation? - LinuxLinks
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04:01 TR News; The Real Linux Foundation Part 10: An International Collaboration Organisation (for International Projects) Where 90% of the Money is Spent in the United States http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/the-spendings-of-linux-foundation-by-country/
04:01 TR Bot; The Real Linux Foundation Part 10: An International Collaboration Organisation (for International Projects) Where 90% of the Money is Spent in the United States | Techrights
04:01 TR News; Police Out of Control (or Oversight) Part 8: Working as Contractor for the Public Sector While Defrauding and Stealing From Staff http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/contracting-and-corporate-liability/
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04:02 TR News; The Real Linux Foundation Part 9: Use of Contractors Soared From 12 to 29 in Just Three Years, Value of Contracts Has Gone Up by a Lot http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/misuse-of-contractors-soared-from-12-to-29-in-3-years/
04:02 TR Bot; The Real Linux Foundation Part 9: Use of Contractors Soared From 12 to 29 in Just Three Years, Value of Contracts Has Gone Up by a Lot | Techrights
04:02 TR News; The Real Linux Foundation Part 8: Example of Outsourcing to Contractors (Likely Without Tender/Bidding) http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/lf-outsourcing-to-contractors/
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04:04 TR Bot; Linux Action News 297 | Jupiter Broadcasting
04:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I get to go back to the shop tomorrow and tell them that the alignment that I paid for is still wrong.
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; lots of money and time wasted tbh
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; but enjoy
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; mark married marisol
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; you married some old car
04:06 TR News; Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 16, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
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04:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I ran into an article from 1998.
04:08 DaemonFC; Thousands of RCA workers losing their jobs in Bloomington.
04:08 DaemonFC; The article was about complaints that the union was handing out bibles.
04:09 DaemonFC; A lot of people who lost their jobs at RCA killed themselves.
04:09 DaemonFC; I'd call anything that helps prevent that good.
04:09 DaemonFC; Who is complaining about the union handing out a bible while there's a plant closure?
04:10 TR News; phoronix: WSL, Microsoft, Windows, other junk... https://www.phoronix.com/news/CBL-Mariner-2.0.20230609
04:10 TR Bot; Linux Distro Now Ships With NVMe Multi-Path Support, Upgrades More Tools - Phoronix
04:11 TR News; There are GOOD reasons why geeks "DO NOT WANT!" Microsoft
04:12 TR News; How To Install Yarn on Fedora 38 https://idroot.us/install-yarn-fedora-38/
04:12 TR Bot; How To Install Yarn on Fedora 38 - idroot
04:13 TR News; Thomas Lange: 20.000 customized images created by the FAI.me build service http://blog.fai-project.org/posts/faime-20000/
04:13 TR Bot; 20.000 customized images created by the FAI.me build service
04:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I remember the plant closures pretty well.
04:14 DaemonFC; It was a scary time for everyone that worked there. My dad included.
04:14 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
04:14 schestowitz[TR]; 2 kids
04:14 DaemonFC; He had savings but the only reason he did okay was that the economy was in a recession and the feds extended unemployment out past six months as an emergency.
04:14 schestowitz[TR]; kids= you will run out of money very fast
04:15 DaemonFC; Yeah. He was lucky that it happened when it did.
04:15 DaemonFC; Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the extra money or extra time to find a job.
04:15 TR News; Windows https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/16/cyber-spying-campaign-linked-to-china-targeting-agencies-in-hong-kong-and-taiwan-report-finds/
04:15 TR Bot; Cyber spying campaign linked to China targeting agencies in Hong Kong and Taiwan, report finds - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
04:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], For many reasons, the plant closures were inevitable.
04:16 DaemonFC; Thomson was a very poorly operated French company, half owned by the French government.
04:16 TR News; No more Microsoft https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/15/aeg-officially-rebrands-la-live-microsoft-theater-to-peacock-theater/
04:16 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/15/aeg-officially-rebrands-la-live-microsoft-theater-to-peacock-theater/ )
04:16 DaemonFC; GE had stripped RCA of their profitable businesses like government contracts and handed Thomson a bloated and inefficient consumer sector that could not compete with the Japanese.
04:16 schestowitz[TR]; US makes little anymore
04:16 DaemonFC; This against a backdrop of "Free Trade" and lower tariffs.
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; except marketing, brands
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; and weapons
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; btw, I have a fight with my freezer today
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; due to the unusually hot weather
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; lots of ice inside
04:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Trying to compete with Sony was difficult on the best of times.
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; and i think I got it back undeder control
04:17 schestowitz[TR]; without anything spoiling
04:17 DaemonFC; But thanks to GE and Thomson, the plants that built the stuff were not upgraded to handle newer TV designs.
04:17 DaemonFC; They planned to outsource, not upgrade.
04:18 DaemonFC; So once the CRT died, so did the plants.
04:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It still made me upset when David Byrne was on stage recalling 1978.
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; i was there for half an hour like a rock climber with a chisel, than cleaning and mopping the floods. Many shards of ice
04:19 DaemonFC; He said he got his first royalties from being in the music business and went out and bought a Sony Trinitron TV. He said, "Very small, very expensive, but state of the art then."
04:19 DaemonFC; RCA was still a viable business in 1978.
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], For many reasons, the plant closures were inevitable.
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; they should not be
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's a choice
04:20 DaemonFC; The Trinitron sets had technical problems that Sony never got ironed out, the CRT models anyway.
04:20 DaemonFC; At the time, the American TV sets were better.
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; the US could promote buying US-made
04:20 DaemonFC; Japan's electronics industry wasn't very good.
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; nothing racist about it
04:20 DaemonFC; I'm not saying that the Japanese shouldn't be allowed to sell TV sets here if they want to.
04:21 DaemonFC; But the government should make sure that they can't do things like predatory pricing.
04:21 DaemonFC; You know, I mean, back then they should have.
04:21 DaemonFC; Nobody makes TVs here now.
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; wall street boom is
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; 1) ponzi
04:21 DaemonFC; There's a lot of Asian companies that get things to retail in the US impossibly cheap.
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; 2) rexploitation
04:21 DaemonFC; It's because China is dumping public money into their business.
04:21 DaemonFC; Eating the losses just to kill us.
04:21 DaemonFC; Then the price goes up.
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> There's a lot of Asian companies that get things to retail in the US impossibly cheap.
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; can make intrnational treaties
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; which the big corporations do not want
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; to ensure fair pay
04:22 DaemonFC; It's not just China. China is who is mainly doing it in this century.
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; not workers for 50 cents an hour
04:22 DaemonFC; Japan was back then.
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; but companies like nike get massive porofit margins this way
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; of course it's not good for the average person
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; as the prices don't even ecrease
04:23 DaemonFC; Everyone panicked and thought Japan would take over everything and become a superpower.
04:23 DaemonFC; Then the early 90s happened.
04:24 DaemonFC; The United Nations Security Council is fundamentally broken.
04:24 DaemonFC; The UK is certainly not a superpower.
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; IN in general
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; like "democracy"
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; where billions of fools decide
04:24 DaemonFC; It has very limited means to actually project force, much less influence global policy.
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; even people who are headhunters
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; "democracy"
04:24 DaemonFC; France? LOL
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; it works OK in theory
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; when there is media
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; and the population is well ifnfrorlmed
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; democracy in pakistan means there are law that forbid criticising religion
04:25 DaemonFC; The whole idea of "permanent members" is broken.
04:25 DaemonFC; If you want to go by who can cause a hell of a lot of trouble in the world by throwing weight around, we're down to the United States, Russia, and China.
04:26 DaemonFC; Superpowers are better at causing trouble than winning wars.
04:26 DaemonFC; When a country wants global stability it means they're not a superpower.
04:27 DaemonFC; Superpowers are powerful enough to cause major problems in world politics.
04:27 DaemonFC; And sometimes that is the goal.
04:27 DaemonFC; Messing up the middle east to prevent a unified Arab state.
04:28 TR News; Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Journal Special Edition https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-freebsd-journal-special-edition/
04:28 TR Bot; Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Journal Special Edition | FreeBSD Foundation
04:28 TR News; Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Timeline https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-freebsd-timeline/
04:28 TR Bot; Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Timeline | FreeBSD Foundation
04:28 DaemonFC; Supporting insurgencies to contain Communism.
04:28 TR News; Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD 30th Anniversary Merchandise https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-30th-anniversary-merchandise/
04:28 TR Bot; Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD 30th Anniversary Merchandise | FreeBSD Foundation
04:29 TR News; June 2023 Fundraising Update https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/june-2023-fundraising-update/
04:29 TR Bot; June 2023 Fundraising Update | FreeBSD Foundation
04:29 TR News; FreeBSD Day Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-day-celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd/
04:29 TR Bot; FreeBSD Day Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD | FreeBSD Foundation
04:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Be afraid when your country wants peace. It means they're vulnerable.
04:29 DaemonFC; Think about it.
04:29 DaemonFC; The UK went from being able to stir the shit to only coming out to help us do it and then running off.
04:30 DaemonFC; Before you know it, they won't even be able to do that.
04:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The "royal family" in the military.
04:30 TR News; BSD Now 511: Against Innovation https://www.bsdnow.tv/511
04:30 TR Bot; BSD Now 511: Against Innovation
04:31 DaemonFC; You can be damned sure they're not putting them near the front.
04:31 DaemonFC; It's a PR thing.
04:31 DaemonFC; One thing every country in every war has in common.
04:31 DaemonFC; You don't send the people you want to keep to the front.
04:32 schestowitz[TR]; fake front
04:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It looks to me from this report...
04:32 DaemonFC; That Pep Boys was able to adjust the toe back to an acceptable value on both axles.
04:33 DaemonFC; But they made the camber on the rear worse than it was.
04:33 DaemonFC; I'm not trying for demon camber.
04:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Check the other room.
04:36 DaemonFC; Anyway, one reason I mentioned that European countries aren't a model for the modern world is state religion.
04:37 TR News; Justservice clown patent affirmed invalid by Federal Circuit https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/6/14/justservicenet-final-decision-affirmed-by-federal-circuit
04:37 TR Bot; Justservice cloud patent affirmed invalid by Federal Circuit Unified Patents
04:37 DaemonFC; Even if they don't force people into it, it shouldn't even be in name only.
04:37 DaemonFC; Then "royal families" and "unwritten constitutions".
04:37 TR News; MOAR fake patents https://ipwatchdog.com/2023/06/15/federal-circuit-affirms-ptab-finding-claims-blood-pressure-treatment-obvious/
04:37 TR Bot; Circuit Affirms PTAB Finding that Claims for Blood Pressure Treatment are Obvious - ipwatchdog.com | Patents & Intellectual Property Law
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; right
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; damn, the fridge works like a horse now
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; at least it's working
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; and i didn't break anything
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; extreme weather condition give extra work
04:38 schestowitz[TR]; rianne back in 10 days
04:39 TR News; Wow! A lot of PATENT 'news' sites are LITERALLY dying. Completely. Some barely publish anything. This is a graveyard.
04:41 TR News; Microsoft SPAM in the 'media' to pretend HoloLens is NOT dead. It IS. Wow, media became PR appendage, not press. Bribe-to-say.
04:43 TR News; Almost everyone in Europe knows that Ursula von der Leyen is fronting for OLIGARCHY (which is what her family is), NOT the EU
04:44 TR News; Turkey... the... north Atlantic nation??
04:44 DaemonFC; von der Slaven?
04:45 TR News; Erdogan and Orban are to NATO and EU what Stefano and Josh are to OSI... Microsoft shills
04:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that too
04:47 schestowitz[TR]; ladson
04:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/
04:47 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights
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04:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], San Francisco. Where homeless people "get it". The hose.
04:54 DaemonFC; I mean, the city has pretty much created its own homeless problem when people who work for Apple and Google can barely afford to live there.
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; just a headsup
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; techrights might quit many news feeds
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; too low s/n ratio
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; too much time wasted
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; on things that are "tweets" as news
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; or "tiktok"
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; the news is dying online
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; like the economy, DaemonFC
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; news is dying
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; you will see many more publishers crashing this year
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; and crushing their staff
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; then:
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; spitify
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; netflix
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; youtube
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04:55 schestowitz[TR]; cannot quite figure things out
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; they squash the users
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], San Francisco. Where homeless people "get it". The hose.
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; home prices crashed there
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; see:
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; (office space) http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/microsoft-linkedin-closing-offices/
04:57 TR Bot; After Microsoft GitHub Sells (Shuts Down) Key Offices LinkedIn Does the Same | Techrights
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; for homes, many on sale
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; abundance
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; lower prices
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; it was a bubble
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; even those who took a mortgage
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; maybe their home lost like 30% in "value"
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; did not check, but possible
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; "linux" foundation pays 8 million now for SF 'office'
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; per year
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; just to rent
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/06/13/lf-exploitative-behaviour/
04:58 TR Bot; The Real Linux Foundation Part 5: The Annual Cost of the Office Has Jumped to Almost 8 Million Dollars for Just 261 Employees (About $30,000 Per Employee Per Year) | Techrights
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; SF si the new manhattan
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; a huge bubble
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; with many businesses that don't make a dime
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; they have "VC" or "angel investors"
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; people sinking money into a well
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; and hope it'll t urn out well
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; sand GOVERNEMNT bailout
04:59 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. debt money from you and Mnady
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 schestowitz[TR]; (todo: how much money does 'open' HEY HI lost per year?)
04:59 schestowitz[TR]; *los
04:59 schestowitz[TR]; *lose
05:00 schestowitz[TR]; (will be hard to get answer... it's "complicated")
05:00 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Audiocasts/Shows: Makulu Max, Linux Action News, and BSD Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Videos_and_Audiocasts_Shows_Makulu_Max_Linux_Action_News_and_BS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Videos_and_Audiocasts_Shows_Makulu_Max_Linux_Action_News_and_BS.gmi
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05:00 *schestowitz[TR] checks how much twittewr debt grew under musk
05:00 schestowitz[TR]; as he never made itr profitable
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05:01 bagira; boo
05:01 bagira; hrm.
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; ""
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; Twitter Inc. made its second interest payment on the $12.5 billion in debt that Elon Musk used to take the social media giant private last year.""
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-03/twitter-said-to-make-second-interest-payment-on-musk-buyout-debt#xj4y7vzkg
05:01 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; not the rigt debt
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; still looking
05:01 schestowitz[TR]; domino economy
05:02 bagira; some kind of field issue
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; "According to reports, the first quarterly payment on the $13bn worth of debt used by Musk to buy Twitter must be paid by the end "
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; chaff
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05:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Everything GM makes eventually makes some weird noise. And 20 years later it still does it and nothing blows up.
05:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-huge-twitter-debt-bill
05:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-huge-twitter-debt-bill )
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ft.com/content/25f67d89-2940-43b9-9a42-bfc34d262631
05:03 TR Bot; Subscribe to read | Financial Times
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; ok, so it grew since
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; fraud musk admits they STILL lose money
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; after firing almost everyone
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; and before the trials over severance
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; so maybe 15 billion in debt over the next couple of years
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; it's insolvent in any form but officially..
05:04 XRevan86; > Looming Twitter interest payment leaves Elon Musk with unpalatable options. Billionaire faces tough choices to meet financial obligations of takeover financed by $13bn debt
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; twitter won't exist in a few years
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; "The $13bn debt is held by Twitter at a corporate level, with no personal guarantee by Musk."
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ft.com/content/25f67d89-2940-43b9-9a42-bfc34d262631
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; now the company is PRIVATE
05:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: Same link.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; so it might be hard to know just how much money is owed
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; TWWT is worth maybe a third of 44bn
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. it's totall worth might be less than what it owes in debt
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; insolvent
05:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ye say it like it's a bad thing. It will probably be worth less down the road.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; worthless
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; liaiity
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; "anyone wants this piece of trash?"
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; "i'll give it away for free"
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; like many diaspora and pleroma/mastodon instance
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; they become yokes
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; and no takers
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: it will be worth less over time
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; the train ha sleft, boat has sailed
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; the debt is STILL gfrowing
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; despite less staff and fewer active users
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; now he won't even pay his Gulag "CLOWN" bills
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; no wonder
05:07 XRevan86; It will be funny if he rebrands it to X and then that will accelerate the decline.
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; he probably doesn't even know if he wants to bother with the darn thing
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; offloaded it to some lady with says "Twitter 2.0"
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; which seems to be a Twitter where racists and k00ks gett a blue tick
05:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: Honestly, he probably does because it provides him with attention.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; not good attention
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; not all attention is good
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; he needs to assure shareholderrs
05:08 XRevan86; I mean subscribers and promotion.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; about starlink tesla, boring company
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; he used twitter to shore up a fakecoin
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; dogge
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; doge
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; and then came under investigation for pump and dump iirc
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; for what he did for about a week
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; we are becoming russia
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; the regulators hewre
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; banks collapsing
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; they crack down on fake banks too
05:09 schestowitz[TR]; and then that hurts also those who avoid high street banks
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; high street banks shut down
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; becoming "apps"
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; on the "clown"
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; (i.e. servers abord)
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; no service, no tellers
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; no ways to get your money out
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; as mortgages cannot be paid anymore
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; and so bank runs seem unstoppable
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; and then they do a russia on us
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; what next?
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; Charges for "discrediting the banks"?
05:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://gizmodo.com/twitter-elon-musk-debt-interest-social-media-1850050271
05:11 TR Bot; Twitter Begins Paying Interest on Its Massive Debt
05:11 schestowitz[TR]; "The initial interest payment, due and presumably paid on Friday, likely cost the company an estimated $300 million,"
05:11 schestowitz[TR]; The bill is in
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; $300,000,000
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; what for?
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; oh.
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; interest.
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; yay.
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; next, "clkown" bill comes from Gulag
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; and SF office space
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; estate ponzi (SF)
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; huge bill for "office rent"
05:12 schestowitz[TR]; musk: no, i don't wanna pay. i'm a spoiled little child.
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2023/05/how-openai-lost-half-a-billion-dollars-due-to-chatgpt/
05:13 TR Bot; How OpenAI Lost Half a Billion Dollars Due to ChatGPT?
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; yay! SF success
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; "startup!
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; billions in losses
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; but hey!
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; wait, there is MOAR!
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; GPT 4.5
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; 5..
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; electricity bills
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; for chatbots that do not work
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; and spout out lies
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; so we're looking at billions in losses
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; for a very small 'company' (MSFT proxy)
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; no business model
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; users lose interest
05:15 schestowitz[TR]; and now an open feud between them and Microsoft
05:15 schestowitz[TR]; for trotting out a broken thing
05:15 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from MSFT layoffs and many shitdowns
05:15 schestowitz[TR]; *shutdowns
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; "i've seen the future"
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; "it's a person who lives inside an EV"
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; "knocking on a building that ussed to be a bank"
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; "demanding "his" money back"
05:18 TR News; Instead of competing against Microsoft Red Hat now helps Microsoft promote proprietary spyware https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/06/15/how-use-ansible-create-vm-azure-workflow
05:18 TR Bot; How to use Ansible to create a VM on Azure via workflow | Red Hat Developer
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05:29 XRevan86; schestowitz: I am not sure what Russia is turning into right now.
05:31 bagira; neither are we sure what the us is turning into over here
05:31 bagira; there are only two things that are obvious underneath the chaos -- (1) we are gearing up for a great war (2) it is against the will of almost everyone
05:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Pep Boys has a lot of positions.
05:32 bagira; i would love to be wrong about that
05:32 XRevan86; There are more and more voices of the Z kind that openly disrespect Putin.
05:32 DaemonFC; Many don't even need any experience.
05:33 XRevan86; bagira: Great war, eh?
05:33 bagira; unfortunately
05:33 bagira; and im not sure it is one that we would win
05:33 XRevan86; Over Taiwan, I presume?
05:33 bagira; i mean, it could be over anything
05:33 bagira; these are never decided by a trigger event
05:34 bagira; thats just the attribution given once the machine starts gathering hearts and minds
05:35 bagira; and if we win and become justice that will be what history remembers
05:35 bagira; just as if russia or china wins they will become justice and attribute their own reasons
05:35 bagira; for the good guy always wins, and always embodies justice
05:37 XRevan86; Must be why the US apologised for internment of Japanese-Americans.
05:37 bagira; it is more complicated than that
05:37 XRevan86; That was justice, no?
05:37 bagira; no it was not
05:38 XRevan86; Taliban won in Afghanistan. Must be loved.
05:38 bagira; they will be in a generation or two
05:39 TR News; This is not a scientific survey https://www.infoworld.com/article/3699788/rust-most-admired-language-stack-overflow-survey-says.html
05:39 TR Bot; most admired language, Stack Overflow survey says | InfoWorld
05:40 bagira; rust is most certainly not the most popular language by any means
05:40 bagira; its not even in the top 10
05:40 bagira; rust is another one of those trojan horse projects that should be avoided by foss
05:41 XRevan86; bagira: Then I can bring up the annexations USSR performed that eventually backfired. A generation or two after the fact.
05:41 bagira; XRevan86, yes, I'm aware. You're welcome for that.
05:42 bagira; A simple "Thank you, American" would have sufficed
05:42 bagira; we should stop pretending the cold war ended
05:43 XRevan86; bagira: The Singing Revolution is your doing? Here I thought it's because they were occupied against their will.
05:44 TR News; RTOS with standard POSIX pthreads API: a complement to embedded Linux https://www.embedded.com/rtos-with-standard-posix-pthreads-api-a-complement-to-embedded-linux/
05:45 TR News; Xen Project to Host Xen Project Developer and Design Summit 2023 https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230615340579/en/Xen-Project-to-Host-Xen-Project-Developer-and-Design-Summit-2023
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05:49 bagira; im considering making splinterIRC into a state machine since its already event driven
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06:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
06:43 TR News; (NEW): i-Pi SMARC 1200 (MediaTek Genio 1200) devkit tested with a Yocto Linux image http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/i_Pi_SMARC_1200_MediaTek_Genio_1200_devkit_tested_with_a_Yocto_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/i_Pi_SMARC_1200_MediaTek_Genio_1200_devkit_tested_with_a_Yocto_.gmi
06:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines i-Pi SMARC 1200 (MediaTek Genio 1200) devkit tested with a Yocto Linux image
06:45 TR News; "The developers working on improving the speed of the CPython interpreter have posted a plan describing their objectives for the Python 3.13 release. The biggest piece appears to be the tier-2 optimizer, which will optimize larger chunks of Python code" https://lwn.net/Articles/934883/
06:45 TR Bot; faster-cpython plan for 3.13 [LWN.net]
06:46 TR News; Registration for LPC 2023 is open https://lwn.net/Articles/934961/
06:46 TR Bot; for LPC 2023 is open [LWN.net]
06:53 TR News; SEC Delays Cybersecurity Rules https://www.insideprivacy.com/cybersecurity-2/sec-delays-cybersecurity-rules/
06:53 TR Bot; SEC Delays Cybersecurity Rules | Inside Privacy
06:53 TR News; Rural hospital cybersecurity protection bill moves forward https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/cybersecurity/rural-hospital-cybersecurity-protection-bill-moves-forward.html
06:53 TR Bot; Rural hospital cybersecurity protection bill moves forward
06:54 TR News; "A proposed settlement of $988,550 has been reached in a class-action lawsuit relating to patient health records being wrongfully accessed by former employees at the Peterborough Regional Health Centre more than a decade ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/9770572/prhc-proposed-settlement-patient-privacy-breaches-2011-2012/
06:54 TR Bot; reaches $988K proposed settlement for patient privacy breaches in 2011-2012 - Peterborough | Globalnews.ca
06:55 TR News; NY Attorney General James Recovers $1.7 Million from Cryptocurrency Platform for Operating Illegally https://www.databreaches.net/ny-attorney-general-james-recovers-1-7-million-from-cryptocurrency-platform-for-operating-illegally/
06:55 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/ny-attorney-general-james-recovers-1-7-million-from-cryptocurrency-platform-for-operating-illegally/ )
06:56 TR News; Detained for DDoS attacks as part of the next edition of the international Power Off operation https://www.databreaches.net/detained-for-ddos-attacks-as-part-of-the-next-edition-of-the-international-power-off-operation/
06:56 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/detained-for-ddos-attacks-as-part-of-the-next-edition-of-the-international-power-off-operation/ )
06:57 TR News; A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies https://www.kait8.com/2023/06/16/russian-ransomware-gang-breaches-energy-department-other-federal-agencies/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kait8.com/2023/06/16/russian-ransomware-gang-breaches-energy-department-other-federal-agencies/
06:57 TR Bot; A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies
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07:08 DaemonFC; MinceR, 7 of 9 says Voyager only has 32 Photon Torpedoes.
07:08 DaemonFC; But they've fired at least four times that many on screen.
07:08 DaemonFC; :)
07:09 DaemonFC; I think Mike Nelson on MST3K also noted that the number of crew members on Voyager fluctuates wildly from episode to episode.
07:10 DaemonFC; Really they should have only had one large change in crew complement, when they took on the Maquis from Chakotay's ship in the first couple of episodes.
07:11 DaemonFC; This is on top of all of the usual Star Trek stuff like, "Why do they have a holodeck when it malfunctions an awful lot and everything in there tries to kill them?" and "Why does the polarized hull plating or energy shielding stand up to a different amount of punishment based on what the plot needs?"
07:11 DaemonFC; :D
07:12 DaemonFC; You'd think that if the holodeck could be used to lethal effect that they would only program in things that couldn't be made to kill you, such as weapons and villainous characters, if the safety protocols were to fail.
07:13 DaemonFC; In at least one episode, Seska programmed a holographic version of herself that could actually blow up the real Voyager by overloading the holodeck's energy grid.
07:14 DaemonFC; On numerous occasions, they've been low on power and still using the holodeck, which probably consumes a ton of power.
07:15 DaemonFC; When someone asks why they don't just siphon power from the holodeck's energy system, they explain that it uses an incompatible energy system with the rest of the ship, without explaining why they would design something that produces a lot of energy and can't be used as a spare power source.
07:16 DaemonFC; But then during a different emergency Chakotay threatens to turn the doctor off to save power if he doesn't stop complaining about people using the infirmary to sleep during the disaster.
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: drafy?
07:16 schestowitz[TR]; draft
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; btw, rianne read your articles about walmart
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; via rss
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; maybe do one about marisol
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; marisol with 3 jobs aned dent
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; some "success story" right there
07:17 schestowitz[TR]; *and debt
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07:20 DaemonFC; 3 jobs, 11 credit cards, 10 years left on a mortgage on a house that's lost $150,000 adjusted dollars in value since 2005.
07:20 DaemonFC; :)
07:20 DaemonFC; And three car payments.
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; the american way(tm)
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: draft?
07:20 DaemonFC; And two kids that call her "fucking bitch".
07:20 DaemonFC; Also, dog that bites everyone.
07:20 DaemonFC; Yeah.
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/
07:21 TR Bot; SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights
07:21 DaemonFC; I don't like dogs. Most dogs. My dog was a good dog though.
07:21 DaemonFC; She wasn't unfriendly to anyone.
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; even a good dog can have one dag day
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; and pounce at someone
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; like own dog jenny did
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; golden retriever even
07:22 DaemonFC; covered her before
07:22 DaemonFC; Covered her with what?
07:22 DaemonFC; Silk linens and sweet nothings?
07:22 DaemonFC; Easy breezy beautiful cover girl?
07:23 DaemonFC; It is an object lesson in ownership, an associate has told us about this, and if you dont control the code you dont control the machine."
07:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, like shops that have an alignment rack and then the software expires and they can't run that part of their shop.
07:24 DaemonFC; Forcing me to go to a shop with a working rack that does half the job (toe alignment) and calls it.
07:24 DaemonFC; "if you
07:24 DaemonFC; dont control the machine, it controls you."
07:24 DaemonFC; Need to fix that.
07:24 DaemonFC; Weird spacing.
07:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Bunch of stuff highlighted at the end by mistake.
07:25 DaemonFC; "Rossmann did a video about, it"
07:25 DaemonFC; :)
07:25 DaemonFC; "do a view response"
07:26 schestowitz[TR]; fixing..
07:26 DaemonFC; "excet"
07:26 DaemonFC; Exocet.
07:26 DaemonFC; A French anti-ship missile.
07:26 DaemonFC; :D
07:27 DaemonFC; "more immediately"
07:27 DaemonFC; Vampire Vampire Vampire!
07:27 DaemonFC; What you'd say if an airplane flies over and drops an anti-ship missile.
07:28 schestowitz[TR]; tactical nuke
07:28 schestowitz[TR]; down go 150 planes
07:28 schestowitz[TR]; "worth" a billion dollars
07:28 DaemonFC; Most US Navy ships have sufficient point defense weapons and don't travel alone.
07:28 schestowitz[TR]; on a billion-dollar aircraft carrier
07:28 DaemonFC; The scene in The Sum of All Fears wouldn't happen like that.
07:29 DaemonFC; Those Russian planes would have been shot down well ahead of being in weapons range.
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; not planes
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; 100 rockets
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; only one of which a tactical nuke
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; the rest blanks
07:29 DaemonFC; Decoys
07:29 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; they are cheap
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; and go fast enough that they are hard to analyse
07:30 DaemonFC; Things are never what they appear to be. The people who hurt us seem to be friendly. The people who we fear are often trying to help.
07:30 DaemonFC; It's an interesting life, isn't it?
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; yes
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; people
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; not predictable
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; lessen interactrion
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; with tstranger
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes even family cannot be trusted
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; depends on the famiyl
07:31 bagira; US defense is not as on point as it was during the height of the cold war
07:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Part of me wants to take that position so they'll have one person there doing something right.
07:31 bagira; china proved this recently
07:31 DaemonFC; I have a tendency to be a stickler.
07:31 bagira; a blitz style air attack would likely be tremendously effective against us critical infrastructure at sufficient scale
07:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Whoever is at Pep Boys tomorrow is going to (politely) get an earful from me.
07:32 DaemonFC; "I need that wheel's camber to be within specifications or I need to know why it can't be and how you fix that."
07:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], To the naked eye, you can't tell there's anything wrong.
07:34 DaemonFC; Steering is still off a bit and I suspect this is why.
07:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I checked everything obvious. If they install the strut for the right on the left and vice versa it can cause some ricer camber.
07:36 DaemonFC; But that's not it.
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; wow, found many more typos
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 10
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, it's OK now
07:38 DaemonFC; Well, I'm not wearing my glasses right now.
07:38 TR News; SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/
07:39 TR Bot; SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights
07:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I just love those transitions lenses.
07:39 DaemonFC; I've been using the off brand for years.
07:39 DaemonFC; I tried the name brand version and it goes back and forth a lot faster.
07:42 DaemonFC; You've been wearing glasses for a while when you give up cleaning them until they're just so bad you can't stand it anymore.
07:43 TR News; Install ownCloud Server on Debian 12 https://kifarunix.com/install-owncloud-server-on-debian-12/
07:43 TR Bot; ownCloud Server on Debian 12 - kifarunix.com
07:48 TR News; Canada freezes ties with China development bank https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/aiib-resignation-06162023013735.html
07:48 TR Bot; Canada freezes ties with China development bank Radio Free Asia
07:51 TR News; Canada Highway Crash: At Least 15 Killed in Manitoba Collision https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/15/world/canada/highway-crash-carberry-manitoba.html
07:51 TR Bot; Canada Highway Crash: At Least 15 Killed in Manitoba Collision - The New York Times
07:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I had Mandy hit me in the nose the other day.
07:56 DaemonFC; Hurt like a son of a bitch.
07:57 DaemonFC; I had a cyst that was growing and filling with fluid and it was bothering me.
07:57 DaemonFC; My nose was draining the fluid all day yesterday.
07:57 DaemonFC; That's what you get with US healthcare.
07:57 DaemonFC; Hit yourself with something and see if you can get it to burst.
07:58 DaemonFC; You go to a doctor they'll put down that they drained a cyst and that's $800 for the cyst and $400 for the visit.
07:58 TR News; Gulagboy Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/matthew-garrett-says-san-francisco-people-get-it-with-the-city-in-court-attacking-homeless-americans-also-blasts-us-constitution/
07:58 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. | BaronHK's Rants
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: what the heck was a cyst doing in the nose anyway?
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; you got shingles after COVID-19
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; but don't worry
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; it's "mild" now
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; say buffy and gulag in the lair
08:01 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: what the heck was a cyst doing in the nose anyway?
08:01 mjg59_; When have I ever said it was mild?
08:01 DaemonFC; Dunno. Started growing a couple months ago.
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; hmmm...
08:02 DaemonFC; Made my nose swell up like a balloon.
08:02 DaemonFC; So I had Mandy hit me with a book to get rid of it.
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: The Royal Family's positive approval rating has dropped to 47%,
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; less than half
08:02 DaemonFC; I probably could have gotten Matt GULAG to do that.
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; so to oppose still having them is being in the majrity now
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; after the "queen" died
08:03 DaemonFC; Get rid of the cyst. Don't miss out.
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; i was more ok with her
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; than the "new guy"
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; i saw him in person some years ago
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; and his hrose
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; the one with clothes on
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; his horse was with hin
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; *him
08:03 DaemonFC; Amazingly, 47% is still higher than Donald Biden.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; why would a nose get that? did you check?
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; maybe it's a symptom of something else?
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; ANOTHER visit, after $1200
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; more products
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; like a garage
08:04 DaemonFC; It's a sebaceous cyst.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; biab
08:04 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Can you reference the actual quote you're talking about when you say that I think people in San Francisco "get it"?
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; the news is too noisy
08:04 DaemonFC; You can take a sewing needle and pop it but you risk infection.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; we need better tools
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; to weed out the chaff
08:05 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> DaemonFC: Can you reference the actual quote you're talking about when you say that I think people in San Francisco "get it"?
08:05 DaemonFC; It was on Twitter.
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/03/26/curating-the-web/
08:05 TR Bot; Techrights Develops Free Software to Separate the Wheat From the Chaff | Techrights
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: nytimes runs RECIPES as HOMEPAGE stories
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; and worse
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; filler is the new normal
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; i cannot take it
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; but they are easy to remove automatically
08:05 DaemonFC; mjg59_, I guess you could go back and delete it now or something. I don't know.
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; only if they contain some words
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; like [FILLER]
08:05 DaemonFC; It struck me as very snobbish and pretentious.
08:06 DaemonFC; But that's par for the course in the city where the homeless get the hose.
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; SF is a joke
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; it's overpriced
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; and run by charalatan
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; like LF
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/06/13/lf-exploitative-behaviour/
08:06 TR Bot; The Real Linux Foundation Part 5: The Annual Cost of the Office Has Jumped to Almost 8 Million Dollars for Just 261 Employees (About $30,000 Per Employee Per Year) | Techrights
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; that's SF for you
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; frauds and charlatans
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; like zemlin
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; who ois not even from SF
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; nor is his wife
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; his wif3e is a literal fraud
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; not fraud in the informal sense
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; not pretending but actually defrauding people
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; they steal all the capital
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; and ride debt
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; the one made out of other people's deficit
08:07 mjg59_; DaemonFC: I have no recollection of saying that people in SF "get it" in any generic sense, and can find no evidence that I did so
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; SF should be separated from the US
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; it's a money pit
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; like "brunei"
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; monarchy of the parasites
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; the peasdants of malaysia work
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; and some few people create their little walled garden
08:08 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> DaemonFC: I have no recollection of saying that people in SF "get it" in any generic sense, and can find no evidence that I did so
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; bingeing on other people's hard work
08:08 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: go report a linus bug
08:08 DaemonFC; I think it should be a nit, complaining about having said people in San Francisco get it.
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; so zemlin can make 1.3 million dollars a year
08:09 DaemonFC; It's not like it's about stabbings or anything.
08:09 schestowitz[TR]; giving a 10-minute talk boasting about money from MSFT
08:09 mjg59_; As far as I can tell it's just something you made up
08:10 mjg59_; Ah
08:10 mjg59_; [22:48] DaemonFC You had a tweet saying that during the DotCom Crisis, you liked San Francisco because people there "got it" or something.
08:10 mjg59_; So yeah that's you misremembering something I said
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you're talking to gu8lag
08:10 bagira; sounds like mjg59_ making up bullshit again tbh but i haven't looked
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; i have him on mute
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; back to LF
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; so SF is basically like an occupuying force
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; not just SF
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; manhattan also
08:10 mjg59_; Which was https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1500383108176089089
08:10 TR Bot; response
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; wall street creates no value
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; it is raising prices and crashing the economy
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; for its own benefit
08:11 bagira; he should have his wife connect here to defend him
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; then it "wanks" about its "wealth"
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; and how that's "creating jobs"
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; it sucks capital
08:11 DaemonFC; mjg59_, That might be it, I don't know. Maybe I stored it as "where people get it".
08:11 mjg59_; Which, you will note, does not involve me saying that people in San Francisco "get it"
08:12 DaemonFC; But that is what it boiled down to regardless.
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; biab
08:12 schestowitz[TR]; speaking to an invisible man :-)
08:12 DaemonFC; Acting like people there had some special knowledge of how life should be that the provincial folks elsewhere didn't.
08:12 mjg59_; I was a provincial folk
08:12 mjg59_; I'm solidly aware of the difference in the conversations
08:12 bagira; do you mean british
08:13 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Let's see those fucking morons in SF feed themselves.
08:13 DaemonFC; There's probably not a person there who knows how to grow food.
08:13 mjg59_; bagira: In a technical sense, yes
08:13 DaemonFC; They know how to spend $1 million on "food consultants" in Chicago.
08:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
08:13 DaemonFC; But not how to grow a tomato plant.
08:14 TR News; "The ramifications of the tech sector layoffs extend to remittance flows, considering that 36% of Indias remittances can be attributed to highly skilled migrants primarily in three high-income destinations: the US, UK, and Singapore" https://www.livemint.com/economy/remittances-to-india-fall-in-2023-on-us-tech-layoffs-11686937043396.html
08:14 TR Bot; Remittances to India fall in 2023 on US tech layoffs | Mint
08:14 bagira; this is where we learn the origin of his troubles. when it was time to go off to college, he had only a pair of army boots, his mother's only pair to send him off on his journey. then the motherland offered him a deal he couldn't refuse. scholarships in exchange for a soul later.
08:14 DaemonFC; In the sense that his people were conquered and then put up a terrorist fight that killed 9 Irish people for every Brit.
08:14 DaemonFC; Sure.
08:15 mjg59_; Actually I was just in the final year of the state paying for my education
08:15 DaemonFC; The Taliban they are not.
08:15 mjg59_; No need for scholarships
08:16 DaemonFC; mjg59_, I'm smart enough to know to minimize collateral damage. Don't target "collaborators" that involve people who work at the DMV. :)
08:16 DaemonFC; Tips.
08:16 DaemonFC; Just the tip.
08:16 bagira; whoring to nebulous interests generally results in that
08:16 DaemonFC; Tips for insurgents.
08:16 DaemonFC; You have to make the public like you more than they like them.
08:17 DaemonFC; You don't want them running to the enemy for protection, feeling like you're the threat.
08:17 DaemonFC; You want life to be more or less normal for the public.
08:17 mjg59_; Whoring to "The law of the time resulting in the state paying university fees"?
08:18 *schestowitz[TR] drafts Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry
08:18 DaemonFC; I certainly know how to drive a wedge.
08:18 mjg59_; Not exactly a nebulous interest
08:18 bagira; look every competent state needs an intelligence, counter intelligence, and department of dirty deeds to function, I'm not against the state
08:18 bagira; im not even against the "deep state" (whatever that really means)
08:18 bagira; they are required components of civilization and statehood
08:19 bagira; but corporatocracy, even veiled, is profane and should be destroyed
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08:21 bagira; as should its agents
08:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ takes his paychecks where he can get them.
08:22 DaemonFC; :)
08:22 DaemonFC; That would be ICE contractors and stuff, sure.
08:22 DaemonFC; Google is an ICE contractor. He worked there. So is GitHub, which he uses.
08:22 DaemonFC; (Microsoft)
08:23 bagira; eh what that guy is, is very likely far less aware than to be consciously participating, he probably does have a handler but is probably largely unaware of the nature of the relationship
08:24 DaemonFC; People who collaborate with ICE are comparable, in my opinion, than French who collaborated with the Nazis.
08:24 DaemonFC; *to
08:25 DaemonFC; Out of all of the government agencies in the US where Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have been uncovered, ICE and Border Patrol are the worst.
08:26 bagira; wait im behind -- what's wrong with oath keepers?
08:30 elusive_woman; bagira: they're nazis
08:30 bagira; im confused. how are oath keepers nazis? wouldn't have they have an almost perfect alignment to the people who killed nazis?
08:30 mjg59_; Roy worked for a company that contracted for the cabinet office
08:31 bagira; so? I've done work for the GSA myself as well as other agencies, that doesn't mean shit along those lines.
08:31 mjg59_; The oath keepers literally attempted to overthrow the legitimate government of the USA
08:32 bagira; are you talking about the january 6th hoax
08:32 mjg59_; I think the useful part of this conversation is over
08:32 bagira; yeah it's not very useful if you're not up on current events as they unfold
08:33 bagira; they released the raw footage
08:33 bagira; that wasn't the oath keepers btw that was the proud boys
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; whats this about?
08:34 bagira; unless you're talking about a different event
08:34 mjg59_; Stewart Rhodes, founder of the oath keepers, headed to DC and spent over $20,000 on weaponry on the way
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; i assume you talk to gulag?
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; what did he said about me?
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; *day
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; > *say
08:35 bagira; schestowitz[TR], he is confusing the proud boys for the oath keepers i think
08:35 mjg59_; Literally not doing that
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; "Sat 07:30:58 mjg59_ Roy worked for a company that contracted for the cabinet office
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; "
08:35 TR Bot; IRC Channels | Techrights
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; oh, working for the government in general is evil now?
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; what are you, a poser?
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; who overthrows the cabinet?
08:35 mjg59_; I mean the British cabinet has been pretty fucking evil for some time now?
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; "b The Cabinet Office is a department of the UK Government responsible for supporting the prime minister and Cabinet.[3] It is composed of various units that support Cabinet committees and which co-ordinate the delivery of government objectives via other departments. As of December 2021, it had over 10,200 staff, mostly civil servants, some of whom work in Whitehall. Staff working in the Prime Minister's Office are part of the Cabi
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; net Office."
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_Office
08:36 TR Bot; Cabinet Office - Wikipedia
08:36 mjg59_; Anyway, the founder of the oath keepers is now serving an 18 year sentence for seditious conspiracy, so yes, I do mean the oath keepers
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; basically 'british white house'
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; sort of
08:37 elusive_woman; mjg59_: did you see where DaemonFC accused you of killing JonBenet Ramsay?
08:37 mjg59_; Huh almost like contracting for the white house between 2017 and 2021 would also have been pretty bad
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; Cabinet Office was Sisirus client under Labour
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; before 2010
08:38 bagira; i have to admit this Stewart Rhodes fella is a damned idiot
08:39 bagira; the jan 6th insurrection was indeed a media hoax but there were some crazies at large for sure.
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; GLA was led by Tories until 9 May 2016
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. 2.5 years under Sirius
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; then Labour 2016-present
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; get your facts right
08:42 bagira; From what I can tell Rhodes is a nutbag but not a nazi
08:43 bagira; jd at yale, damn
08:46 bagira; oh, yeah, I see here: Citing private Facebook messages, prosecutors stated in a March 2021 court filing that during the weeks preceding the attack, Meggs had contacted Proud Boys who he said could serve as a "force multiplier" and that he had "organized an alliance" among the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and the Florida chapter of the Three Percenters.[90]
08:47 bagira; sounds like a buncha boogie boys who took it too far and got drove off a cliff
08:49 bagira; that's hilariously damaging because now any group that forms on an oath to obey the constitution or disregard unconstitutional orders will now forever be associated with alt-right nutbags
08:49 mjg59_; Rhodes repeatedly rejected the supremacy clause
08:50 mjg59_; He's only interested in the bits of the constitution he likes
08:50 bagira; that is so convenient for very real and very prominent interests that would in fact subvert the us constitution. yeah im reading now, he was a states rights advocate
08:50 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)
08:51 bagira; i wonder how much of this was the intent and how much of this was organizational hijacking by clandestine infiltrants
08:51 mjg59_; People who worked with him claim that he'd basically say anything if it got him more money
08:51 bagira; conjecture on that is not useful because there's no way to know, and most people who would read this wouldn't know that that kind of shit happens
08:52 mjg59_; And once you're on a states right kick you're easily infiltrated by far-right extremism even if you're not personally a racist piece of shit
08:53 bagira; i can agree with that
08:54 bagira; they didn't enforce their core tenet to a maxim it sounds like
08:54 bagira; and it poisoned the well for similar positive intent in the future
08:55 bagira; critical mistake
08:57 mjg59_; Is Rhodes a nazi? I think he would strongly argue otherwise and I don't think he'd be actually lying about that. Are the oath keepers as a whole an organisation that leans towards using force to impose more "traditional" ideas of US values, such as subjugating minorities? Yeah, clearly.
08:58 bagira; what minorities did they intend to subjugate
08:58 bagira; you have a tendency to create false associations betweens groups you don't like to demonize one with the other's mold
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 mjg59_; He'd have ended up as a Rhm
09:00 bagira; easy to say
09:00 bagira; but so is anything else
09:01 mjg59_; I feel like we've already established that I'm more aware of what the oath keepers actually are than you were
09:01 bagira; i see no justification for saying that the oath keepers had any intent or inclination to subjugate minories
09:01 bagira; no you just have an inferiority complex
09:02 mjg59_; Me: The founder of the oath keepers intended to violently overthrow the government and regretted that he failed to do so
09:02 mjg59_; You: Huh the founder of the oath keepers etc
09:03 bagira; you have a tendency to introduce a random arcane technical obscurity to a discussion to present an illusion of being informed but rarely live up to it when its explored. when that happens you will turn it into a game of will where you spin around until someone gets tired of knocking you down. it's like the cool hand luke fight scene only you're not cool.
09:03 bagira; no that's not what happened
09:03 mjg59_; "random arcane technical obscurity" like "the founder of this group did these things"
09:03 bagira; he was charged and convicted of sedition though
09:04 bagira; "we should have brought rifles" really says it all
09:04 mjg59_; He bought a bunch of guns on the way to DC and afterwards said that he'd wanted to hang Pelosi from a lamppost
09:04 elusive_woman; now hes going to be the soap keeper
09:05 bagira; he didn't say "glad I brought those rifles"
09:05 bagira; they are very different statements involved in very different scenarios
09:05 bagira; he's an idiot and deserved both the conviction and sentence though, i'll give you that
09:06 bagira; i dont buy the nazi bit
09:06 bagira; naive and malleable yes, nazi no
09:06 mjg59_; The oath keepers are associated with anti-LGBTQ demonstrations
09:06 bagira; you don't get to play that card anymore
09:06 bagira; you abused it too much
09:07 mjg59_; When it comes to discussion of them being anti-minority, it's kind of relevant!
09:07 bagira; im sure if it is then someone will bring it up who hasn't spent all their token points
09:08 bagira; tell me im being unfair
09:08 elusive_woman; thats why i think they're nazis
09:08 mjg59_; I'll tell you you're ignoring reality
09:09 bagira; mjg59_, no im just disregarding your opinion within a narrow scope of possible points you would make on a specific topic you've damaged your credibility with repeatedly by abusing its card
09:10 bagira; elusive_woman, let's say it were true, that would be ugly, but I don't see how that would meet criteria to be "nazis"
09:10 mjg59_; Hey if you want to ignore reality I can't fix that
09:10 bagira; bigoted, yes, nazis, no
09:11 mjg59_; Huh an organisation that aims to impose militaristic control and ignore the rule of law to convince the people that their problems are due to a minority group and that minority group should be dealt with
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09:11 elusive_woman; its like how the jews were painted as a problem by the nazis
09:11 mjg59_; Almost!
09:11 bagira; sounds like another one of your demonization rituals mjg59_
09:11 mjg59_; And when I say "Almost!" I mean "Yes"
09:12 TR News; Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/the-dying-news-industry-online/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/the-dying-news-industry-online/
09:12 bagira; holding up a "GOD HATES F*GS" sign is a far stretch from trying to convince people their problems are due to that minority and that they should be "dealt with" in a militaristic sense
09:12 TR Bot; Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online | Techrights
09:12 bagira; it's a horrible behaviour, but horrible behaviour has distinct classifications and these words mean things
09:13 mjg59_; Yeah, and sending threats is not holding up a sign
09:13 bagira; ultimately i think this is just another case of mjg59_ having general difficulty with taxonomy again
09:13 elusive_woman; bomb threats, violence
09:13 elusive_woman; i feel like i need to be armed
09:13 bagira; you should be armed
09:13 elusive_woman; to protect myself
09:13 bagira; most people should be
09:15 elusive_woman; in the USA yes, but this stuff spreads to other countries that don't have guns
09:15 bagira; those people should be armed too
09:15 elusive_woman; i can get a knife
09:15 TR News; "Gemini is similar to the way the web was, around 1993. Gemini feels to him as though it is "devoid of human contact". In this connection he mentions measures such as IndieAuth, feed aggregators and ActivityPub, which complement the basic web stack, and which afford some means of connection with other users." gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2023-06-17_re_degrowth_and_its_discontents.gmi
09:16 bagira; if i moved to mexico I'd probably be more armed there than here
09:17 elusive_woman; i want to move to iceland
09:17 bagira; move to greenland instead
09:17 elusive_woman; why
09:19 mjg59_; You can be even isolated than Iceland!
09:19 mjg59_; Also maybe Trump will make it part of the US
09:19 bagira; id vote for that
09:20 mjg59_; These are all compelling reasons
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09:20 bagira; we -should- annex greenland
09:20 mjg59_; But Iceland contains far cooler people
09:20 bagira; it needs the shit liberated out of it
09:20 mjg59_; Huh Denmark that known repressive regime
09:21 bagira; i dont mean in the iran way i mean in the mao way
09:22 elusive_woman; iceland is a leftist paradise
09:22 bagira; "please get your house off our land" isn't something the head of a multigenerational family wants to ever hear
09:24 bagira; it also would have huge potential for development in about a hundred years
09:25 bagira; that's huge with a 'y'
09:25 bagira; yuuuuuuuge
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09:33 bagira; i wonder how the left is reconciling the massive elite pedophile ring that's surfaced over the last few years
09:34 bagira; or how hundreds of covid articles in medical journals are being deleted as the dust settles from the lockdowns and mandates
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; hi parsifal
09:34 bagira; not retracted
09:34 bagira; deleted.
09:34 bagira; or how "trust the science" has become a partisan statement under their watch
09:35 bagira; i was just thinking of poisoned wells since it was a topic earlier i guess
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; which articles were deleted?
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; ignored maybe
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; not deleted
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; or new research suppresse
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; dteh reality erodes trust in
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; 1) media
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; 2) gov
09:36 bagira; yeah they destroyed alot of medical careers too when it was happening
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; 3) pharma corporations
09:38 bagira; it really is deeply troubling to wonder what a few generations of people raised to appropriately distrust experts are going to do the world
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; 2023 attitude
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; pandemic is over
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's in the past
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; move on
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; do not discuss the past
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; do not apologise
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; no analysis
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; we're dine
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; *fine
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; health fine
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; economy fine
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; don't ask why or where it started
09:40 bagira; there are some lies that hold civilization together but when people as a whole distrust all expert authority because everything lies to them, then those necessary lies start to unravel and it becomes a post-truth society as a whole
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; or why the policies were and still are so bad
09:41 bagira; that's end of empire shit
09:41 schestowitz[TR]; btw, we're still not exposing ourselves much, except close family and w/ masks on+distance
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; i can rationalise it with official data and peer-reviewed studies
09:42 bagira; ohio has been BAU for a couple years now
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; biab
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; we have a new issue now, a lack of media
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; and news that lies
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; i don't know how to solve that
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; (also: youtbe censors facts, under the guise of "misinformation")
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/01/05/google-censoring-scientific-papers/
09:43 TR Bot; Google/YouTube Censors Expert for Linking to and Explaining New and Soon-Peer-Reviewed Paper, Published a Week Before Boxing Day | Techrights
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; now the video about the censorship is ALSO removed
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full
09:43 TR Bot; Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine | medRxiv
09:43 schestowitz[TR]; the paper is still online
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; Now published in Open Forum Infectious Diseases doi: 10.1093/ofid/ofad209
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625
09:44 TR Bot; Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine | medRxiv
09:44 bagira; well, also one of the consequences that branches from a distrust of expert authority is a tendency of the layperson to confuse anti-intellectualism with wisdom from observing people who -are- tracking whats up and aren't explained to them
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; youtube censors videos about this study
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; even videos from doctors
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; biab
09:45 bagira; yeah there was a period where only approved opinions could get published without it ending a medical career
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; dilemma here, how to curate news
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; another example is war journalism
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; ellsberg died yesterday
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; now any story that does not support NATO's interests is false
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; "Russian propaganda"
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; and anyone in media would be fired or suspended for it
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; see RNZ
09:46 bagira; they nuked tucker carlson to get fox in line and they're not even a news org
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's why i keep telling XRevan86 we're slowly becoming russia
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; voting machines are crock
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; but you cannot say that now
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; they always were BS
09:47 bagira; meanwhile a bunch of crazy shit alex jones was raving about before sandy hook is starting to come true
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; but now it's "pro-Trump"
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2023/04/19/fox-news-straw-man/
09:47 TR Bot; Just Because Fox News Lost (or Settled) Doesnt Mean Voting Machines Are Safe or Acceptable | Techrights
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/
09:47 TR Bot; Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; even the voting machine researchers won't speak out now
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; they will be "used" by "trump"
09:48 bagira; the thing about alex jones still bothers me even today. it wasn't that he was called out for being wrong. he was wrong and he was right to have his ass sued off. the problem is the level of collaboration exhibited between major social media companies and even hosting providers to blacklist him from any form of mainstream media
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; so let's have election by software and hardware companies
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; they're easier to control people and boxes with ballots
09:48 schestowitz[TR]; *than
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; paper trail
09:49 schestowitz[TR]; and many observers
09:49 bagira; if people are only concerned about when that happens to people they agree with then those people are stupid. that could have been anybody with any viewpoint. it's the fact that they did do that to someone in such a coordination fashion. it should have been perceived as a demonstration of power over speech.
09:50 bagira; "comply with our version of the truth or be erased from society", even if you agree with their belief of the truth, is a scary fucking thing that should be absolutely destroyed by antitrust legislation
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; not everyone believes in it anymore
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; like I said,
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; RUSSIA
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; we are like Russia 20 years ago
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; In China journalists get kidnapped
09:51 schestowitz[TR]; in Russia some are arrested or fall from windows
09:52 bagira; or get blackmailed by the mossad after a honeytrap
09:52 schestowitz[TR]; for "annoying" some peopel
09:52 bagira; oh wait that's here
09:54 TR News; SpellBinding: AYELQUB Wordo: BEDIM gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-06-17.gmi
09:55 bagira; they did the same shit to trump
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; trump si shit
09:55 bagira; and then when facebook nuked him he goes over to truth social
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to do much to him
09:55 bagira; so amazon tanks truth social
09:55 bagira; that's not the issue
09:55 bagira; the issue is that those companies collaborated at that detailed a level to blacklist someone from the public consciousness
09:55 schestowitz[TR]; that was for insurrection
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; and amazon is not a web host
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's a state contractor, CIA a big client
09:56 bagira; amazon is absolutely a CSP
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; web hosting is a "side show"
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; like they booted wikileaks in 2010
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; even years before the cia contract
09:56 bagira; yeah
09:56 schestowitz[TR]; amazon is amazon
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; a web host does hosting
09:57 bagira; what's going to happen to people with legitimate issues these companies and their clients don't want to see addressed
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; i need to devellop some tools
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; geez, these "news" are a joke
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; Rest In Pieces: Servers And CXL https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/06/15/rest-in-pieces-servers-and-cxl/
09:57 TR Bot; Rest In Pieces: Servers And CXL
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; ads
09:57 schestowitz[TR]; in "news" clothing
10:00 bagira; what kind of tools do you need to develop?
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10:04 schestowitz[TR]; something better to find accurate and important news
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; it sounds like banal and "dumb"
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; or obvious
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; but i 2023 it's not
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; so much of "the news" is a farce
10:04 bagira; eh to do that you need to build an entire organic information processing cycle, it's not easy
10:04 schestowitz[TR]; it's not
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; we had several goes at it
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10:05 schestowitz[TR]; and don't tell me about this HEY HI hype
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; it does not grasp the news
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; it's either
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; chatbots (NOT hey hi at all!)
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10:06 schestowitz[TR]; or some fuzzy thing that isn't generative)
10:06 bagira; something to just collect articles that are associated with certain topics fed by an analysis phase, something to orient them to core message content, then something to decide whether they are credible articles or not with some kind of a scoring system, and then something to purge and publish, and then create a feedback loop for dessemination of counters to uncredible articles
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
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10:07 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise you end up telling me one volcano causes more warming than all cars combined
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; based on some hearsay on wwww
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; or denying twitter is over 10 billion bucks in debt
10:07 bagira; try to break component responsibility to 4 separate phases that go back and forth: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act
10:08 TR News; "The demo layout can be found at the bottom of this post." https://ittavern.com/create-tmux-layouts-using-bash-scripts/ | Source: IT Tavern
10:08 TR Bot; tmux layouts using bash scripts | ITTavern.com
10:08 TR News; "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/100daysof-day101/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
10:08 TR Bot; Day 101: scoping - Manuel Matuzovi
10:08 bagira; and then you need an aux cycle to counter publish and steer observation and calibrate orientation
10:08 TR News; "a recursive DNS server such as Unbound calls the DNS root servers" https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-unbound/ | Source: Pi My Life Up
10:08 TR Bot; Installing Unbound for Pi-Hole on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up
10:08 bagira; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop
10:08 TR Bot; OODA loop - Wikipedia
10:09 bagira; organic information processing cycles are the best to design against because they are all abstractions of the same process
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; [10:09] <schestowitz-pi2> discussed in irc at this very moment
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; [10:09] <schestowitz-pi2> "hi, my name is bob, you have 60 seconds to tell me all the news i need to
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; [10:09] <schestowitz-pi2> know about today, make sure it is concuse and very accurate"
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; [10:09] <schestowitz-pi2> ^ easy only in theory
10:10 bagira; not possible to do really
10:10 bagira; you have to pick some battles and make priorities
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's possible
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; but hard
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; tuxmachines clusters by theme
10:11 bagira; if you don't scope and prioritize then information saturation will drown out any possibility of discovery and meaningfulness of individual publications
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; and gives outline for each
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; and that too is a lot of work
10:12 bagira; AI would actually be very good for that
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; and tuxmachines is alreadt one niche to begin with (gnu/linux)
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; what is "AI"?
10:12 bagira; some AI chats are amazing at summarizing articles
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; chatbots are not even AI
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; they are chatbots
10:13 bagira; believe it or not Bing is very good at this
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; Bing is good at nothing
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; and that's why it's failing
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; many layoffs this eyar
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; sagging market share, too
10:13 bagira; and if you find an equivelant with an API like chatGPT you will be able to automate the creation of article summaries
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; 'articles' that lie
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; because they are not brainy
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; it's just word-chomp
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; and then word spew
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; 'open'HI is billions in losses
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; and isn't happy with "bing" performance
10:14 bagira; i think you need to assess capability of Bing before you say that
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; there is a feud there
10:14 bagira; if you haven't recently i mean
10:14 mjg59_; "Tell me about Chris Punches:
10:15 mjg59_; ChatGPT: "I'm sorry, but I couldn't find any specific information about a person named "Chris Punches" in my database. It's possible that this individual is not widely known."
10:15 mjg59_; Man. That's harsh.
10:15 bagira; the benefit of being a private person
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; chatbots are not bing
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; bing is bing
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; chatbots are chatbots
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; bing chat=chatbot
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft slapping "bing" on some failing "product"
10:16 bagira; yeah, well, bing has a chatbot and its chatbot is impressive
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; biab
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; if I want a chat, i speak to a person
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; and about topic this person knows
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; not some word spew
10:17 bagira; ive even given it highly specialized code and had it solve a very complex problem
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 bagira; what ive observed of all these chat systems is that they can save you an enormous amount of time on some complex tasks but its ability to help you is a product of your ability to tell it what to do and your own technical awareness of the subject matter
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; waste of electgricity
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; like bitcoin, but with better marketing
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; more "investment"
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; in the PR
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; any idiot can stick lies in twitter, reddit, wikipedia
10:21 bagira; it wont replace software developers in our lifetime
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; to fake his or her importance
10:21 bagira; but it will augment them
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; even a liar like dave ike
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; or some random IRC troll
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; and then that goes into the training set
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; without licence :-)i
10:21 bagira; what do you think ircthulu is going to do :)
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; ironically, microsoft killed reddit, its propagands nwtwork
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; maybe twitter too
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; they added api nrestrictions now
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; and that causes an uproar
10:22 bagira; ircthulu will be a massive NLP dataset after a couple years
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of twitter stuff still fails to work since they erecated more api walled
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; *walls
10:23 TR News; "Here is a summary of my progress for writing OpenKuBSD." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-16-openkubsd-progress-1.html | Source: Data Swamp
10:23 TR Bot; Solene'% : OpenKuBSD progress report
10:24 bagira; i wish control theory were further abstracted away from its applications
10:27 TR News; (NEW): Security and Windows TCO http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_and_Windows_TCO.gmi
10:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO
10:28 TR News; (NEW): CrunchBang++ 12.0 Released, Based on Debian 12 (Still Supports 32-bit) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/CrunchBang_12_0_Released_Based_on_Debian_12_Still_Supports_32_b.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/CrunchBang_12_0_Released_Based_on_Debian_12_Still_Supports_32_b.gmi
10:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines CrunchBang++ 12.0 Released, Based on Debian 12 (Still Supports 32-bit)
10:29 mjg59_; Huh ircthulu sounds like a great way for employers to ask what their employees are saying on IRC
10:33 bagira; it's also a great way for employers to get caught doing shady shit with sock puppets on irc
10:37 TR News; "delve into the differences and the synergy between security maintenance and support" https://ubuntu.com//blog/security-maintenance-vs-support-whats-the-difference | Source: Ubuntu
10:37 TR Bot; maintenance vs support: whats the difference? | Ubuntu
10:40 TR News; "Raspberry Pi is small, affordable, and hackable" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-in-the-natural-world/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
10:40 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi in the natural world - Raspberry Pi
10:40 TR News; "game concept is similar to the horse race arcade game" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/16/build-your-own-human-horse-race-arcade-game-with-arduino/ | Source: Arduino
10:40 TR Bot; Build your own human horse race arcade game using Arduino and Strava | Arduino Blog
10:40 TR News; "programmed on OLIMEXINO-STM32F3 it allows firmware update" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/openblt-bootloader-allow-olimexino-stm32f3-to-update-the-firmware-via-uart-usb-can-and-sd-card/ | Source: Olimex
10:40 TR Bot; OpenBLT Bootloader allow OLIMEXINO-STM32F3 to update the firmware via UART, USB, CAN and SD-card | olimex
10:40 TR News; "He was recently interviewed by EE Times and he gave many insightful comments" https://boilingsteam.com/jim-keller-on-how-risc-v-will-change-the-world/ | Source: Boiling Steam
10:41 TR Bot; Jim Keller on How Risc-V Will Change the World - Boiling Steam
10:58 TR News; "an LTS release of Ubuntu goes out of the main support" https://ubuntu.com//blog/snapcraft-8-0-and-the-respectable-end-of-core18 | Source: Ubuntu
10:58 TR Bot; 8.0 and the respectable end of core18 | Ubuntu
10:58 TR News; Simplifying software-defined vehicles (SDVs) with EB corbos Linux built on Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/simplifying-software-defined-vehicles-sdvs-with-eb-corbos-linux-built-on-ubuntu | Source: Ubuntu
10:58 TR Bot; software-defined vehicles (SDVs) with EB corbos Linux built on Ubuntu | Ubuntu
10:59 TR News; Yo, fossmint, macOS is NOT FOSS, you know? https://www.fossmint.com/mac-terminals/
10:59 TR Bot; 10 Best Terminal Emulators for Mac in 2023
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
10:59 TR News; fossmint, have you become an Apple site? Macs are not FOSS... https://www.fossmint.com/gui-git-clients-for-mac/ |
10:59 TR Bot; The Top 10 GUI Git Clients for Mac Users in 2023
11:01 TR News; BillPR now RUNNING INTERFERCES for child porn pushers' company, SPAMMING this 'article' (SPAM) to many peole by EMAIL: "Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: 'It's time we grow up and behave like an adult company'" https://text.npr.org/1182457366
11:01 TR Bot; Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: 'It's time we grow up and behave like an adult company'
11:01 TR News; Reddit ought to cease to exist. It's a miracle it manage to con so many people into being its slaves for this long.
11:04 TR News; Who elected Famous Criminal Bill Gates? Did Jeffrey Epstein elect him US President? https://www.voanews.com/a/bill-gates-in-china-to-meet-president-xi-on-friday---sources-/7137146.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
11:04 TR Bot; Bill Gates Meets Chinese President Xi
11:04 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
11:04 TR News; "NHTSA screwjob from Biden administration discussed with coalition leader, Tommy Hickey" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/nhtsa-screwjob-from-biden-administration:9
11:04 TR Bot; NHTSA screwjob from Biden administration discussed with coalition leader, Tommy Hickey
11:05 TR News; "TikTok and YouTube Key to Reaching the U.S. Hispanic Audience" https://variety.com/vip/tiktok-and-youtube-key-to-reaching-the-u-s-hispanic-audience-1235645284/
11:05 TR Bot; and YouTube Key Ways to Reaching the U.S. Hispanic Audience - Variety
11:07 TR News; corruption https://jacobin.com/2023/06/boris-johnson-tories-prime-minister-covid-lying-corruption-conservatives/
11:07 TR Bot; How a Grotesque Mediocrity Like Boris Johnson Became Britains Prime Minister
11:07 TR News; Says a lot... https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/media-jobs-uk-news/boris-johnson-daily-mail/
11:07 TR Bot; Boris Johnson signs for Daily Mail as weekly columnist
11:08 TR News; spacex is such a shitty company that even children can work there... https://futurism.com/the-byte/14-year-old-spacex-employee-linkedin
11:08 TR Bot; 14-Year-Old SpaceX Employee Furious When LinkedIn Restricts His Account for Being Too Young
11:09 TR News; Jeffrey Epstein's man in China https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/chinas-xi-jinping-tells-bill-gates-he-welcomes-u-s-ai-tech-in-china/articleshow/101044737.cms http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
11:09 TR Bot; China's Xi Jinping tells Bill Gates he welcomes US AI tech in China - The Economic Times
11:09 TR Bot; Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
11:10 TR News; Place your bets. Which site goes permanently offline first, Twitter.com or reddit.com? www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2023-06-16/despite-widespread-protest-reddit-ceo-says-company-is-not-negotiating-on-3rd-party-app-charges
11:11 TR News; "ESP32CAM-PSRAM is a portable development board" https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-module-comes-with-fisheye-camera/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
11:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-module-comes-with-fisheye-camera/ )
11:11 TR News; "The Station P2S, a compact and versatile mini PC that runs on the 64-bit RK3568 SoC." https://linuxgizmos.com/station-p2s-mini-pc-offers-support-for-poe-and-4g-lte/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
11:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/station-p2s-mini-pc-offers-support-for-poe-and-4g-lte/ )
11:12 TR News; "Debian 12, codenamed Bookworm, is released a few days ago!" https://ostechnix.com/upgrade-to-debian-12-from-debian-11/ | Source: OSTechNix
11:12 TR Bot; To Upgrade To Debian 12 From Debian 11 - OSTechNix
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:26 parsifal; schestowitz[TR]: Hi, schestowitz
11:29 TR News; "Linux systems either desktop or Steam Deck, removing non-Steam apps should now be cleaner." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/removing-non-steam-apps-now-cleans-up-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:29 TR Bot; non-Steam apps now cleans up on Steam Deck and Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux
11:29 TR News; "official controller support is coming to Factorio" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/factorio-adds-controller-support-in-experimental-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:29 TR Bot; adds controller support in experimental update | GamingOnLinux
11:32 TR News; Soulstone Survivors https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/soulstone-survivors-a-great-vampire-survivor-like-has-a-huge-skill-tree-upgrade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:32 TR Bot; Survivors a great Vampire Survivor-like has a huge skill tree upgrade | GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR News; PAYDAY 2 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/get-payday-2-and-lots-of-dlc-in-this-humble-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR Bot; PAYDAY 2 and lots of DLC in this Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux
11:38 TR News; LARABEL shilling WINDOWS device as if it's "Linux"; the CNX modus... https://www.phoronix.com/review/asus-rog-ally-linux
11:38 TR Bot; Linux On The ASUS ROG Ally Gaming Handheld - Phoronix
11:38 TR News; Valheim https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/new-beta-for-valheim-adds-in-world-modifiers-letting-you-customize-your-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:38 TR Bot; Beta for Valheim adds in world modifiers letting you customize your game | GamingOnLinux
11:38 TR News; "Having Steam UI scaling issues?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/steam-ui-scaling-should-work-even-better-in-the-latest-beta/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/steam-ui-scaling-should-work-even-better-in-the-latest-beta/
11:38 TR Bot; UI scaling should work even better in the latest Beta | GamingOnLinux
11:55 TR News; "put together some little 'web application'" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/ApacheCGIsAndLocationACLs | Source: University of Toronto
11:55 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/ApacheCGIsAndLocationACLs
11:55 TR News; "our experts will be on hand to showcase the Pro line of products" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/16/join-us-at-sensors-converge-in-santa-clara/ | Source: Arduino
11:56 TR Bot; Join us at Sensors Converge in Santa Clara | Arduino Blog
11:57 TR News; "In this tutorial, youll learn how to build a simple C++ program" https://earthly.dev/blog/cmake-gcc-cross-compile/ | Source: Earthly
11:57 TR Bot; Using CMake and GCC to Cross-Compile Binaries - Earthly Blog
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12:09 TR News; "Open a Unix or Linux terminal emulator." https://susam.net/blog/control-escape-meta-tricks.html | Source: SusamPal
12:09 TR Bot; Control, Escape, and Meta Tricks - Susam Pal
12:10 TR News; "The time comes when I need to communicate back. Ask a question. Schedule an appointment." https://chriscoyier.net/2023/06/15/getting-communicated-at/ | Source: Chris Coyier
12:10 TR Bot; Getting Communicated At - Chris Coyier
12:10 TR News; "Park's hands move almost too fast to follow in the video." https://futurism.com/the-byte/man-solves-rubiks-cube-three-seconds | Source: Futurism
12:10 TR Bot; Man Solves Rubiks Cube in Three Seconds
12:11 TR News; "masking, ventilation, self-testing" https://www.harihareswara.net/posts/2023/my-current-covid-risk-approach/ | Source: Sumana Harihareswara
12:11 TR Bot; My Current Approach To Reducing My COVID Risk | Cogito, Ergo Sumana
12:11 TR News; "adolescent girls that had contemplated suicide in 2021" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/reported-57-school-girls-experienced-persistent-feelings-sadness-hopelessness-1716837 | Source: International Business Times
12:11 TR Bot; A reported 57% of school girls experienced 'persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness'
12:12 TR News; "When you do have the opportunity to get in touch with nature" https://mahb.stanford.edu/artscommunity/forest-bathing/ | Source: uni Stanford
12:12 TR Bot; Forest Bathing - MAHB
12:13 TR News; What Reddit Got Wrong https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/16/what-reddit-got-wrong/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:13 TR Bot; Reddit Got Wrong - scheerpost.com
12:13 TR News; "social [sic] network" https://futurism.com/the-byte/reddit-ceo-threatens-mods | Source: Futurism
12:13 TR Bot; Reddit CEO Flies Into a Rage, Threatens Protesting Moderators
12:15 TR News; gannett "with over 200 daily outlets" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/gannett-tiptoes-into-generative-ai-giving-humans-the-last-word/articleshow/101043866.cms | Source: India Times
12:15 TR Bot; gannett: Gannett tiptoes into generative AI, giving humans the last word - The Economic Times
12:15 TR News; "Licenses are increasingly heralded as a solution to this problem." https://fortune.com/2023/06/16/open-source-a-solution-ai-ethical-issues-tech/ | Source: Fortune
12:16 TR Bot; we cant open-source a solution to A.I.s ethical issues | Fortune
12:16 TR News; "efforts to sharpen our focus" https://9to5google.com/2023/06/15/google-domains-squarespace/ | Source: 9to5Google
12:16 TR Bot; Google Domains shutting down, assets sold to Squarespace
12:16 TR News; hobby https://www.cringely.com/2023/06/16/apples-vision-pro-headset-is-a-hobby-why-wont-tim-cook-say-that/ | Source: I Cringely
12:16 TR Bot; Vision Pro headset is a hobby. Why wont Tim Cook say that? | I, Cringely
12:17 TR News; "Better preparation for cyberattacks might include limiting employees access" https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/cybersecurity/2023/06/lindy-cameron-interview-retrofit-security-ai | Source: New Statesman
12:17 TR Bot; Lindy Cameron interview: You cant retrofit security into AI
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:23 TR News; Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/cl0p-gang-claimed-to-have-hit-many-us-agencies-through-moveit-flaw.html | Source: IT Wire
12:23 TR Bot; - Cl0p gang claimed to have hit many US agencies through MOVEit flaw
12:23 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/russian-national-arrested-charged-in-us-over-role-in-lockbit-ransomware-attacks/ | Source: Security Week
12:23 TR Bot; National Arrested, Charged in US Over Role in LockBit Ransomware Attacks - SecurityWeek
12:24 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/16/lockbit_suspect_arrest/ | Source: The Register UK
12:24 TR Bot; LockBit suspect's arrest sheds more light on gang's MO The Register
12:27 TR News; "The authorities have intensified efforts to enforce the Islamic dress code as more women flout the law." https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-surveillance-cameras-hijab-enforcement/32462724.html | Source: RFERL
12:27 TR Bot; Senior Iranian Official Says President Approves Adding More Surveillance Cameras
12:27 TR News; "The new state law, dubbed the Drones as First Responders Act, takes effect immediately." https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/17/illinois_bans_drones_facial_recognition/ | Source: The Register UK
12:27 TR Bot; Illinois bans drones from using facial recognition, weapons The Register
12:28 TR News; "The lawsuit, filed just over a decade ago, accused Google of "storing and intentionally, systematically and repeatedly divulging" users' search results and histories to third parties, a violation of privacy laws." https://futurism.com/the-byte/google-free-money-now | Source: Futurism
12:28 TR Bot; If You Googled Anything During the Years "30 Rock" Was on TV, You Can Get Free Money Right Now
12:28 TR News; "If we can build large-scale quantum computers that run exactly as physics predicts that they should, explains Ryan ODonnell, a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon" https://fedscoop.com/are-federal-agencies-post-quantum-cryptography-preparations-on-track/ | Source: Scoop News Group
12:28 TR Bot; federal agencies post-quantum cryptography preparations on track? | FedScoop
12:30 TR News; "Ellsberg angered the Nixon White House in 1971 when he handed over documents" https://www.dw.com/en/pentagon-papers-whistleblower-daniel-ellsberg-dies-aged-92/a-65945909 | Source: Deutsche Welle
12:30 TR Bot; Papers' whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg dies aged 92 DW 06/17/2023
12:30 TR News; "The Pentagon Papers had been commissioned in 1967 by then-Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara" https://english.elpais.com/usa/2023-06-16/daniel-ellsberg-who-leaked-pentagon-papers-exposing-vietnam-war-secrets-dies-at-92.html | Source: El Pas
12:30 TR Bot; Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked Pentagon Papers exposing Vietnam War secrets, dies at 92 | U.S. | EL PAS English
12:32 TR News; "Ellsberg secretly went to the media in 1971 in hopes of expediting the end of the Vietnam War." https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230616-daniel-ellsberg-pentagon-papers-whistleblower-who-exposed-vietnam-war-secrets-dies-at-92 | Source: France24
12:32 TR Bot; Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistleblower who exposed Vietnam War secrets, dies at 92
12:32 TR News; "espionage charges against Ellsberg were ultimately dismissed." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65932944 | Source: BBC
12:32 TR Bot; Ellsberg: Pentagon Papers whistleblower dies aged 92 - BBC News
12:36 TR News; "And it set up a First Amendment confrontation between the Nixon administration and The New York Times" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/16/us/daniel-ellsberg-dead.html | Source: New York Times
12:36 TR Bot; Daniel Ellsberg, Who Leaked the Pentagon Papers, Is Dead at 92 - The New York Times
12:36 TR News; "Thats been true of others who released top-secret information that they felt was evidence of official wrongdoing" www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-06-16/like-daniel-ellsberg-others-who-leaked-us-government-secrets-have-been-seen-as-traitors-and-heroes | Source: US News And World Report
12:57 TR News; "ITAM Review an independent global community for worldwide IT asset management" https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/16/tech_vendor_price_hikes/ | Source: The Register UK
12:57 TR Bot; Tech vendors increase prices by up to 24% amid inflation The Register
12:57 TR News; "Trying to understand the factors that fueled inflation is important" https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/06/why-it-matters-who-caused-inflation/674448/ | Source: The Atlantic
12:57 TR Bot; Why it matters who caused inflation - The Atlantic
12:58 TR News; "The fallout from Bill C-11 has been the subject of several posts this week" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/06/the-bill-c-11-fallout-continues-disney-pauses-original-commissions-in-canada/ | Source: Michael Geist
12:58 TR Bot; The Bill C-11 Fallout Continues: Disney+ Pauses Original Commissions in Canada - Michael Geist
12:59 TR News; "Debian Day Volunteer Suicide" https://danielpocock.com/demoted-in-death-debian-cabal-final-insult-frans-pop/ | Source: Daniel Pocock
12:59 TR Bot; Demoted in Death: Debian cabal's final insult to Frans Pop
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:01 TR News; "the legislation did not pass unanimously, with the final vote at 499 in favor" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3699311/eu-parliament-approves-ai-act-moving-it-closer-to-becoming-law.html | Source: Computer World
13:01 TR Bot; Parliament approves AI Act, moving it closer to becoming law | Computerworld
13:02 TR News; "the company has been skipping various payments" https://qz.com/elon-musk-twitter-unpaid-bills-office-eviction-1850546732 | Source: Quartz
13:02 TR Bot; Elon Musk starts to face consequences of Twitter's unpaid bills
13:02 TR News; "Atlantic Council experts share their genuine intelligence by answering the pressing questions about whats in the legislation and whats next. [...]" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-worlds-regulatory-superpower-is-taking-on-a-regulatory-nightmare-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: Atlantic Council
13:02 TR Bot; The worlds regulatory superpower is taking on a regulatory nightmare: artificial intelligence - Atlantic Council
13:04 TR News; Disinformation and Gulag https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4050354-google-hosts-profits-from-fake-abortion-clinic-ads-report/ | Source: The Hill
13:04 TR Bot; Google hosts, profits from fake abortion clinic ads: report | The Hill
13:04 TR News; disinformation and FBI https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/16/john-durhams-disinformation-problem/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
13:04 TR Bot; John Durham's Disinformation Problem - emptywheel
13:04 TR News; misinformation https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7zz9z/spotify-rogan-rfk-vaccine-misinformation-policy | Source: Vice Media Group
13:04 TR Bot; Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogans Vaccine Misinformation
13:05 TR News; "Scheduled to debut on June 22, just in time for the upcoming Eid al-Adha holiday," https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/heres-why-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-is-blocked-from-release-in-the-united-arab-emirates-101686919544630.html | Source: Hindustan Times
13:05 TR Bot; Here's why 'Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse' is blocked from release in UAE | Hollywood - Hindustan Times
13:05 TR News; "Nadims family believes he was targeted in retaliation for his May 2023 series of reports" https://cpj.org/2023/06/bangladeshi-journalist-golam-rabbani-nadim-beaten-to-death-after-reporting-on-local-politician/ | Source: CPJ
13:05 TR Bot; Bangladeshi journalist Golam Rabbani Nadim beaten to death after reporting on local politician - Committee to Protect Journalists
13:08 TR News; "social media posts" https://cpj.org/2023/06/pakistani-journalists-abroad-face-terrorism-investigations-at-home/ | Source: CPJ
13:08 TR Bot; Pakistani journalists abroad face terrorism investigations at home - Committee to Protect Journalists
13:14 TR News; "Hong Kong authorities have targeted the pro-democracy advocate and China critic since 2020" https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-urges-release-of-jailed-hong-kong-newspaper-founder-lai/7139335.html | Source: VOA News
13:14 TR Bot; EU Urges Release of Jailed Hong Kong Newspaper Founder Lai
13:14 TR News; "An Iranian journalist who was jailed last year for conducting an interview with Mahsa Amini's father said Thursday that she has been "terminated" from her position at the newspaper where she had just started working." https://www.voanews.com/a/iranian-journalist-terminated-after-alleging-special-forces-officer-misconduct/7138885.html | Source: VOA News
13:14 TR Bot; Iranian Journalist Says Newspaper Fired Her After She Alleged Special Forces Officer Misconduct
13:14 TR News; "Assanges Most Critical Moment" https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/16/joe-lauria-assanges-most-critical-moment/ | Source: Scheerpost
13:14 TR Bot; Lauria: Assange's Most Critical Moment - scheerpost.com
13:15 TR News; "But from the first day on the job, Gwin began to realize that he had made a mistake." https://jacobin.com/2023/06/google-subcontractor-hcl-pittsburgh-unionizing-memoir/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
13:15 TR Bot; One Tech Subcontractors Road to Unionization
13:16 TR News; activision saved? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3699310/us-judge-temporarily-blocks-microsofts-activision-deal-at-request-of-ftc.html | Source: Computer World
13:16 TR Bot; judge temporarily blocks Microsoft's Activision deal at request of FTC | Computerworld
13:17 TR News; "Against that background" https://walledculture.org/digital-business-models-are-changing-what-are-artists-thoughts-hopes-and-fears-in-this-new-world/ | Source: Walled Culture
13:17 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/digital-business-models-are-changing-what-are-artists-thoughts-hopes-and-fears-in-this-new-world/ )
13:18 TR News; "Music creators must now contribute to at least 20% of an album to earn a nomination." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/grammys-bans-ai-only-music-allows-only-human-creators/articleshow/101053255.cms | Source: India Times
13:18 TR Bot; Grammys bans AI-only music, allows 'only human creators' - The Economic Times
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 TR News; Microsoft GitHub = CENSORSHIP of code https://torrentfreak.com/github-takes-down-cloudstream-apk-code-repo-following-mpa-complaint-230616/ | Source: Torrent Freak
13:20 TR Bot; Takes Down Cloudstream APK Code Repo Following MPA Complaint * TorrentFreak
13:20 TR News; "jadoo" https://torrentfreak.com/ibcap-dish-prevail-in-jadoo-tv-piracy-lawsuit-ceo-held-personally-liable-230615/ | Source: Torrent Freak
13:20 TR Bot; Prevail in Jadoo TV Piracy Lawsuit, CEO Held Personally Liable * TorrentFreak
13:39 TR News; [Meme] Their Power is Your Wasted Time | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/go-self-host/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/go-self-host/
13:39 TR Bot; [Meme] Their Power is Your Wasted Time | Techrights
13:42 TR News; (NEW): This week in KDE: nicer digital signing in Okular http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/This_week_in_KDE_nicer_digital_signing_in_Okular.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/This_week_in_KDE_nicer_digital_signing_in_Okular.gmi
13:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines This week in KDE: nicer digital signing in Okular
13:49 TR News; Social control media in action https://gizmodo.com/minecraft-dream-youtube-face-mask-online-hate-1850528540
13:49 TR Bot; Minecraft YouTuber Dream Puts Mask Back On Over Online Hate
13:50 TR News; (NEW): New YouTube Videos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_YouTube_Videos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_YouTube_Videos.gmi
13:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines New YouTube Videos
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15:02 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19032546
15:02 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
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15:51 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
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16:05 TR News; (NEW): Perl Programming http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Perl_Programming.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Perl_Programming.gmi
16:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Perl Programming
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16:15 TR News; Self-Hosting of Videos is the Way Forward http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/self-hosting-of-videos/
16:15 TR Bot; Self-Hosting of Videos is the Way Forward | Techrights
16:16 TR News; Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/government-defrauding-workers-via-contractors/
16:16 TR Bot; Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers | Techrights
16:16 TR News; Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/the-dying-news-industry-online/
16:16 TR Bot; Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online | Techrights
16:16 TR News; Matthew Garrett Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/matthew-garrett-says-san-francisco-people-get-it-with-the-city-in-court-attacking-homeless-americans-also-blasts-us-constitution/
16:16 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. | BaronHK's Rants
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16:37 TR News; Reddit is the Next Twitter, Going Down the Drain | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/reddit-going-down-the-drain/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/reddit-going-down-the-drain/
16:37 TR Bot; Reddit is the Next Twitter, Going Down the Drain | Techrights
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17:06 TR News; Free Speech Rejected by Opponents of Free Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/free-speech-rejected-by-freesw-haters/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/free-speech-rejected-by-freesw-haters/
17:06 TR Bot; Free Speech Rejected by Opponents of Free Software | Techrights
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17:30 immibis; reddit admins force reopen /r/piracy
17:30 immibis; probably giving up their s230 or dmca or whatever protections because they are now taking an active role to promote piracy on their platform
17:31 XRevan86; The safe harbour law?
17:31 TR News; TikTok is a Chinese Weapon Controlled by a Dangerous Company (ByteDance) and We Must Treat It Like a Chinese Weapon for Our Own Sake | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/tiktok-dangerous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/tiktok-dangerous/
17:31 TR Bot; TikTok is a Chinese Weapon Controlled by a Dangerous Company (ByteDance) and We Must Treat It Like a Chinese Weapon for Our Own Sake | Techrights
17:32 immibis; XRevan86: yeah whichever one applies, they probably just lost it
17:34 XRevan86; immibis: Uff, hopefully the Elusive Joe clause will save them.
18:04 TR News; When We Dont Have Independent Media COVID-19, Nord Stream Etc. Become the Next JFK (a Mishmash of Theories, No Definitive Answers) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/covid-19-blackout/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/covid-19-blackout/
18:04 TR Bot; When We Dont Have Independent Media COVID-19, Nord Stream Etc. Become the Next JFK (a Mishmash of Theories, No Definitive Answers) | Techrights
18:06 TR News; Sam Thursfield: Status update, 16/06/2023 https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/status-update-15-06-2023/
18:06 TR Bot; Status update, 16/06/2023 Sam Thursfield
18:11 XRevan86; https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-16/eric-schmidt-buys-ditched-alfa-nero-superyacht-for-67-6-million "Eric Schmidt Buys Abandoned Alfa Nero Superyacht for $67.6 Million"
18:11 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:30 TR News; Many Fake Patents Are Still Being Squashed and Patent-Centric Media in Europe is Mostly Sockpuppets of the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/many-fake-patents-and-the-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/many-fake-patents-and-the-epo/
18:30 TR Bot; Many Fake Patents Are Still Being Squashed and Patent-Centric Media in Europe is Mostly Sockpuppets of the EPO | Techrights
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18:41 AdmFubar; https://slashdot.org/story/23/06/17/0018224/gpt-4-generated-pitches-are-3x-more-likely-to-secure-funding-than-human-ones
18:41 TR Bot; GPT-4-Generated Pitches Are 3x More Likely To Secure Funding Than Human Ones - Slashdot
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:27 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19040465
19:27 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
19:28 TR News; Judges of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Are Resigning Before It Even Starts and Team UPC Sprinkles Candy on This Illegal and Unconstitutional Court (Rigged Kangaroo Court Designed to Authorise the EPOs Abuses Against the EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/upc-crisis/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/upc-crisis/
19:28 TR Bot; Judges of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Are Resigning Before It Even Starts and Team UPC Sprinkles Candy on This Illegal and Unconstitutional Court (Rigged Kangaroo Court Designed to Authorise the EPOs Abuses Against the EPC) | Techrights
19:39 TR News; Links 17/06/2023: Daniel Ellsberg Dies, SparkyLinux 7.0 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/sparkylinux-7-0-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/sparkylinux-7-0-is-out/
19:39 TR Bot; Links 17/06/2023: Daniel Ellsberg Dies, SparkyLinux 7.0 is Out | Techrights
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Windows TCO or Microsoft-Connected Security Breaches http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Windows_TCO_or_Microsoft_Connected_Security_Breaches.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Windows_TCO_or_Microsoft_Connected_Security_Breaches.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Windows TCO or Microsoft-Connected Security Breaches
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Devices: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_More.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and More
19:55 TR News; (NEW): Debian: Posthumous Insult, Sparky 7.0, and FAI.me http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Debian_Posthumous_Insult_Sparky_7_0_and_FAI_me.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Debian_Posthumous_Insult_Sparky_7_0_and_FAI_me.gmi
19:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian: Posthumous Insult, Sparky 7.0, and FAI.me
19:56 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Factorio, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Factorio_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Factorio_and_More.gmi
19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Factorio, and More
19:56 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
19:56 TR News; (NEW): New Application Lists From LinuxLinks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_Application_Lists_From_LinuxLinks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_Application_Lists_From_LinuxLinks.gmi
19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines New Application Lists From LinuxLinks
19:58 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi
19:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
20:00 TR News; REMAINDER IS NOT MODULO gemini://siiky.srht.site/algebra/mod_not_rem.gmi
20:00 TR News; world-building in C++ gemini://laniakea.rodoste.de/journal/2023-06-16-c++.gmi
20:01 TR News; Communicative Culture gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/06/17/communicative-culture.gmi
20:02 TR News; "For me the issue is path of least resistance. Gemini AND http are both quite good TCP based protocols for serving miscellaneous media. While they both have their bundled media type they're really really good at just serving any content while having a fairly robust protocol." gemini://senders.io/gemlog/degrowth-and-bespoke-protocols.gmi
20:02 TR News; The Cost of Change gemini://johan.egneblad.se/change.gmi
20:03 schestowitz[TR]; "For the sake of keeping this text somewhat short and making a point that is applicable to the real world, I will narrow down the type of software development to the kind I have been doing the most. The kind that is never finished, be it a product that is sold externally or an internal system that is only used by coworkers."
20:03 TR News; "I've released a significant update to the GmCapsule server. This version includes a couple of improvements I've been planning to implement for a while." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2023-06_gmcapsule-0.5.gmi
20:04 AdmFubar; what will they do if he lives forever? https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/windscribe-changes-its-mind-about-the-lifetime-plans.451755/
20:04 TR Bot; Windscribe changes its mind about the Lifetime plans. | Wilders Security Forums
20:04 TR News; Baseball Game - Goldpanners vs. Kingsmen gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230617-0.gmi
20:05 TR News; Setting up OpenCL on RK3588 using libmali gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2023/06-17-setting-up-opencl-on-rk3588-using-libmali.gmi
20:05 TR News; Really brown your meat gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/recipes/reallyBrownYourMeat.gmi
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20:12 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/14011221
20:12 TR Bot; WHOOPSIE
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20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:13 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/weekend-random-randomness-6-11-23-5.jpg
21:14 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/us-energy-dept-gets-two-ransom-notices-as-moveit-hack-claims-more-victims/
21:14 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/us-energy-dept-gets-two-ransom-notices-as-moveit-hack-claims-more-victims/ )
21:15 AdmFubar; it's a bird! it's a plane!
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21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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23:09 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/weekend-random-randomness-6-17-23-7.jpg
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 AdmFubar; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Cb458PRJ43s
23:20 TR Bot; Reddit CEO learns going to war with the internet is a LOSING battle - Invidious
23:22 techuser; It is no "war with the internet", it is a violation of the boiling frog principle.
23:22 techuser; Rapid worsening instead of slow one.
23:23 techuser; But who knows, maybe the people then adapt. Or mass-migrate to another platform, making it big and significant risk of repeating the same issues.
23:40 bagira; honestly you should let the protester types protest until all of that shit crumbles and they wear out their credibility
23:40 immibis; You might have heard that the company that owns Instant Pot has filed for bankruptcy. The makers of Instant Pot did something horribly wrong: they made a really good product that works very well and does not need to be replaced frequently. This means that owners of Instant Pots might only need to buy one and rarely replace it, if at all.
23:40 immibis; This is a great success from the perspective of *industry,* in Veblens sense, but terrible for *business.* The makers of Instant Pot failed to sufficiently sabotage their product by, say, building in intentional obsolescence. Maybe they should have used cheaper parts that wear out faster, or installed software that requires regular updates, or deliberately inserted components designed to make it fail.
23:40 immibis; But they didnt, and so sales were stagnant. The firm that owns Instant Pot borrowed lots of money in an attempt to make a new version of Instant Pot they somehow hoped to sell to consumers of Instant Pot. It was too much; the firm did not earn enough differential profitsprofits at a faster rate than its competitorsand so the firm is failing, despite the success of the product.
23:41 immibis; https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110559922189025128
23:41 TR Bot; "You might have heard that the company that owns I" - kolektiva.social
23:41 bagira; for some reason in this era we think a publicly available service should appear to a fringe audience instead of the general audience actually using it and funding them and that idea needs to air out a little
23:41 immibis; Huffman did not create the largest data set of human beings talking about interesting things. Reddits users did. What Huffman owns is a *fence* around those conversations, and he only earns a profit if he can *sabotage* access.
23:42 bagira; s/appear/appeal/
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