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00:04 schestowitz-TR; CrystalMath: Serbia next
00:04 schestowitz-TR; in techrtights
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00:05 MinceR; techtights?
00:06 schestowitz-TR; except the typo
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00:16 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21112248
00:16 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6025394)
00:31 TR News; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXVI: Serbian Sour Grapes Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/epo-and-serbia/ #Techrights #EPO #Serbia #Patents #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/epo-and-serbia/
00:31 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXVI: Serbian Sour Grapes | Techrights
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00:50 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21112114
00:50 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6022273)
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01:06 DaemonFC; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/11/how-one-click-shopping-is-creating-amazon-warehouse-towns-were-disposable-humans
01:06 TR Bot; Pollution everywhere: how one-click shopping is creating Amazon warehouse towns | Amazon | The Guardian
01:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Amazon is rapidly expanding these in my area.
01:07 DaemonFC; The place used to have a lot of industry, then it all got wiped out, and now it loses 1.5% of its population every single year.
01:08 DaemonFC; Cities aren't designed to lose population this fast.
01:08 DaemonFC; It's what happened to Gary, Indiana.
01:08 DaemonFC; I'm sure our landlord would have loved to raise our rent 7-10% or whatever he could get away with.
01:08 DaemonFC; But 1.5% was apparently it.
01:09 DaemonFC; The value of the property doesn't rise here like it does in some other places.
01:10 DaemonFC; When people are leaving and property taxes are rising anyway because of broken pension promises to people who don't even work for the government or live here anymore, this is what happens.
01:10 DaemonFC; He's maintaining the building as cheaply as possible, so that it can stay working.
01:11 DaemonFC; It's not in horrible shape, but the plumbing needs repairs and it's getting a rooter every once in a while to keep it flowing.
01:11 DaemonFC; The plumbing is definitely the major downside of the building.
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01:35 TR News; #Ethiopia uses emergency law to ramp up arrests of #journalists - Committee to Protect Journalists https://cpj.org/2021/12/ethiopia-uses-emergency-law-to-ramp-up-arrests-of-journalists/ #cpj
01:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cpj.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cpj.org/2021/12/ethiopia-uses-emergency-law-to-ramp-up-arrests-of-journalists/
01:35 TR Bot; Ethiopia uses emergency law to ramp up arrests of journalists - Committee to Protect Journalists
01:36 TR News; Day 16: Reindeer Express - Raku Advent Calendar https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/16/day-16-reindeer-express/ #rakuadvent #rakulang #programming
01:37 TR Bot; Day 16: Reindeer Express Raku Advent Calendar
01:38 TR News; Highlights from State of the Word 2021 https://wordpress.org/news/2021/12/highlights-from-state-of-the-word-2021/ #wordpress
01:38 TR Bot; Highlights from State of the Word 2021 WordPress.org
01:51 TR News; Linux-driven ADAS fleet computer looks out and in Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159169 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:51 TR Bot; Linux-driven ADAS fleet computer looks out and in | Tux Machines
01:51 TR News; Best #PDF Editors for Linux That You Should Know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159170 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:51 TR Bot; Best PDF Editors for Linux That You Should Know | Tux Machines
01:58 TR News; #Games: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Old School Runescape, Wii Hacking Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159171 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:58 TR Bot; Games: Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Old School Runescape, Wii Hacking | Tux Machines
02:01 TR News; Today we take a closer look at Serbia, a country that did not authorise Benot Battistellis illegal Strike Regulations Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/epo-and-serbia/ #Techrights #serbia #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/epo-and-serbia/
02:01 TR News; #Servers: Kubernetes and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159172 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:01 TR Bot; Servers: Kubernetes and More | Tux Machines
02:02 TR News; When you fake it till you think youve made it Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/ffii-upc-meme/ #Techrights #UPC #unitaryPatent #unifiedPatentCourt #teamUPC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/ffii-upc-meme/
02:03 TR Bot; [Meme] UPC Meme From FFII | Techrights
02:03 DaemonFC; "17 security issues in bullseye"
02:03 DaemonFC; Firefox-ESR
02:03 DaemonFC; Was 6.
02:03 TR News; #Microsoft assists perpetrators of #domesticviolence , according to its own policy (the mugshot above is a serial abuser, whom Microsoft is protecting) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/microsoft-assists-perpetrators-of-domestic-violence/ #Techrights #github #deletegithub | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/microsoft-assists-perpetrators-of-domestic-violence/
02:03 TR Bot; Microsofts Human Resources (HR) Policy: We Offer Assistance to Perpetrators of Domestic Violence | Techrights
02:03 DaemonFC; This is quickly snowballing in the wrong direction.
02:03 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I no longer use Firefox
02:04 schestowitz-TR; librewolf 94 ok for now
02:05 DaemonFC; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-38505
02:05 TR Bot; CVE-2021-38505
02:05 DaemonFC; LOL
02:05 DaemonFC; NameCVE-2021-38505
02:05 DaemonFC; DescriptionMicrosoft introduced a new feature in Windows 10 known as Cloud Clipboard which, if enabled, will record data copied to the clipboard to the cloud, and make it available on other computers in certain scenarios. Applications that wish to prevent copied data from being recorded in Cloud History must use specific clipboard formats; and Firefox before versions 94 and ESR 91.3 did not implement them. This could have caused sensitive data
02:05 DaemonFC; to be recorded to a user's Microsoft account. *This bug only affects Firefox for Windows 10+ with Cloud Clipboard enabled. Other operating systems are unaffected.*. This vulnerability affects Firefox < 94, Thunderbird < 91.3, and Firefox ESR < 91.3.
02:05 schestowitz-TR; yes, I saw it
02:06 schestowitz-TR; [19:54] <techrights-news> And another way in which Web browsers suck (running malicious code from some arbitrary servers) https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/12/15/preventing-secrets-from-leaking-through-clipboard/
02:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/12/15/preventing-secrets-from-leaking-through-clipboard/
02:06 TR Bot; Preventing secrets from leaking through Clipboard - Mozilla Security Blog
02:06 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: so they push updates to platforms not affected
02:06 schestowitz-TR; just to keep the numbers in sync
02:06 schestowitz-TR; total waste of b/w
02:06 schestowitz-TR; and not a new isue in firefox
02:06 schestowitz-TR; those windows-only issues
02:07 schestowitz-TR; leading to another FULL download of ALL of firefox
02:07 schestowitz-TR; no deltas
02:08 schestowitz-TR; what wannabe politicians run your company
02:08 schestowitz-TR; mozilla
02:08 schestowitz-TR; maybe they don't understand
02:08 schestowitz-TR; 1) what platforms are
02:08 schestowitz-TR; 2) how verioning words
02:08 schestowitz-TR; "RELEASE EVERY 4 WEEKS!!!"
02:08 schestowitz-TR; "NEW! COOL! What's testing???"
02:08 schestowitz-TR; *works
02:08 schestowitz-TR; 3) how deltas work
02:09 schestowitz-TR; change one line of code for WINDOWS
02:09 schestowitz-TR; recompile
02:09 schestowitz-TR; push to Linux
02:09 schestowitz-TR; makes no sense!!
02:09 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla hired from Microsoft for security
02:09 schestowitz-TR; some lady with the surname Window
02:09 schestowitz-TR; not killing
02:09 schestowitz-TR; and she used her mozilla hat to praise Microsoft on security
02:09 schestowitz-TR; her former employer!!
02:09 schestowitz-TR; NSA PRISM
02:10 schestowitz-TR; mozilla started hiring incompetent people even a decade back
02:11 MinceR; 16 030827 < schestowitz-TR> "NEW! COOL! What's testing???"
02:11 MinceR; microsoft, apple and ibm don't know either
02:11 schestowitz-TR; wait correction..
02:11 schestowitz-TR; her FIRST name was WIndows
02:12 schestowitz-TR; surname was snyder iirc
02:12 MinceR; lol
02:12 schestowitz-TR; *Window
02:12 schestowitz-TR; not Windows
02:12 schestowitz-TR; but still funny
02:12 schestowitz-TR; they hire a Microsoft mole called Window
02:13 schestowitz-TR; techrights wrote several artyicles about it
02:13 schestowitz-TR; until she left
02:13 schestowitz-TR; after much amage had been done
02:13 schestowitz-TR; like her praising Windows
02:13 schestowitz-TR; after many Firefox issues were WINDOWS-ONLY
02:13 schestowitz-TR; even back then
02:13 schestowitz-TR; they hire against their interest
02:13 schestowitz-TR; working for Microsoft
02:14 schestowitz-TR; while getting the salary from Google (moz 'foundation')
02:14 schestowitz-TR; like novell with microsoft
02:14 schestowitz-TR; miguel de icaza
02:14 schestowitz-TR; nat friedman
02:14 schestowitz-TR; maybe even greg- k-h
02:14 schestowitz-TR; novell payroll
02:14 schestowitz-TR; but salaries from microsoft
02:15 schestowitz-TR; to promote microsoft
02:15 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is good at these strategies
02:15 schestowitz-TR; [14:28] <techrights-news> "You have to sign a CLA to contribute to their projects. They could close its source anytime they want. [...] They own GitHub" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1296535-microsoft-to-make-windows-terminal-the-default-choice-on-windows-11
02:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1296535-microsoft-to-make-windows-terminal-the-default-choice-on-windows-11
02:15 TR Bot; To Make Windows Terminal The Default Choice On Windows 11 - Phoronix Forums
02:22 DaemonFC; https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-cta-president-dorval-carter-salary-raise-20211215-cj27lob47bcyppjpra2unbzpry-story.html
02:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: chicagotribune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-cta-president-dorval-carter-salary-raise-20211215-cj27lob47bcyppjpra2unbzpry-story.html
02:22 TR Bot; CTA board approves 33% pay raise for President Dorval Carter - Chicago Tribune
02:23 DaemonFC; Half as many people take the bus and trains now.
02:23 DaemonFC; All the CEOs get 33% pay hikes.
02:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, There haven't been any service cuts to CTA, they're just never on time anymore.
02:23 DaemonFC; :)
02:26 schestowitz-TR; working on draft
02:26 schestowitz-TR; cutoff fore bulletin in 10 mins
02:27 TR News; Links 16/12/2021: GNU nano 6.0 and #XOrg Server 21.1.2 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/gnu-nano-6-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/gnu-nano-6-0/
02:27 TR Bot; Links 16/12/2021: GNU nano 6.0 and X.Org Server 21.1.2 | Techrights
02:30 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159173 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:30 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
02:30 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159174 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:30 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
02:30 DaemonFC; I stocked up some more on cat food.
02:30 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159175 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:30 DaemonFC; iBotta had some rebates.
02:30 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
02:32 DaemonFC; Still taking my silver supplement.
02:32 DaemonFC; Probably cut that out in a few days.
02:33 DaemonFC; I just want to make damned sure that thing isn't coming back.
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02:37 TR News; "Insulin costs them a dollar. They sell it for several hundred." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-151221.html#tDec%2015%2016:48:22
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 15, 2021
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-151221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-151221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-151221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-151221.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 15, 2021
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-151221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-151221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-151221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-151221.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 15, 2021
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-151221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-151221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-151221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-151221.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 15, 2021
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-151221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-151221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-151221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-151221.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 15, 2021
02:46 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-15.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-15.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:48 reporter; 10% of total SSL certs are used by CloudFlare sites | https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/cloudflared/ssl_certificate.md
↺ https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/cloudflared/ssl_certificate.md
02:48 TR Bot; dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/cloudflared/ssl_certificate.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea
02:48 schestowitz-TR; hi
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02:53 TR News; #Serbia and #Europe s Largest (Also Most Corrupt) #Patent Office, the EPO Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/serbia-and-europe-patent-system/ #Techrights #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/15/serbia-and-europe-patent-system/
02:53 TR Bot; Serbia and Europes Largest (Also Most Corrupt) Patent Office, the EPO | Techrights
02:56 TR News; #Python discusses deprecations [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/877957/ #LWN
02:56 TR Bot; discusses deprecations [LWN.net]
02:58 TR News; #Kernel Articles From LWN (Just Released From Paywall) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159176 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
02:58 TR Bot; Kernel Articles From LWN (Just Released From Paywall) | Tux Machines
02:59 TR News; Torvalds: #FSF are extremists, #microsoft is... well, no comment. They've bribed my employers and 3 Microsoft employees are now my bosses. http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
02:59 TR Bot; [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
03:01 TR News; #Serbia s role in almost obstructing unlawful regulations 8.5 years ago is noteworthy because earlier today a 2-day online meeting of the EPOs Administrative Council reached its end and the #EPO is still grossly misgoverned http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/serbia-and-europe-patent-system/ #europe #corruption #patents
03:16 DaemonFC; https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.13232
03:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.13232
03:16 TR Bot; makes antibiotics thousands of times more effective | Nature
03:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I was just taken aback by how fast these amoxicillin tablets worked in conjunction with the silver.
03:18 DaemonFC; Total reversal of bronchitis in about 5 days.
03:18 DaemonFC; It can just go on and on for like, over a month, untreated.
03:18 DaemonFC; And that's what the doctors tell you to do.
03:19 DaemonFC; "You have an immune system. Running a high fever is a good thing."
03:19 DaemonFC; Actual quotes.
03:21 DaemonFC; Bacteria hates silver. It just absolutely hates the stuff.
03:21 DaemonFC; But it takes a lot more than what it calls for on the bottle.
03:22 DaemonFC; The FDA has been trying to ban silver supplements for many years.
03:22 DaemonFC; The people who managed to turn themselves blue did it with some shit they made in their garage.
03:23 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 312955 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38434 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 2 months 5 days ago
03:23 DaemonFC; Back before refrigerators were common, people used to toss a silver dollar in a jug of milk to prevent it from turning and extending the shelf life, and it did work.
03:24 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 15 GB TotalOut: 3.5 GB
03:25 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
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03:33 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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07:18 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, December 15, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:18 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:18 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:18 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:22 TR News; xkcd: Notifications https://xkcd.com/2555/ #xkcd
07:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2555/
07:22 TR Bot; Notifications
07:23 TR News; RC Sub Built With A Water Bottle | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/15/rc-sub-built-with-a-water-bottle/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
07:23 TR Bot; Sub Built With A Water Bottle | Hackaday
07:23 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
07:24 TR News; Christmas Tree #PCB Just The Trick For Festive Glee | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/15/christmas-tree-pcb-just-the-trick-for-festive-glee/ #hackaday
07:24 TR Bot; Tree PCB Just The Trick For Festive Glee | Hackaday
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07:31 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159177 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:31 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
07:32 TR News; #www is becoming worthless. Just Adofe Flash again.. running in just one family of browsers. https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/15/web3_apparently_the_next_generation/
07:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/15/web3_apparently_the_next_generation/
07:32 TR Bot; Web3: The next generation of the web is here apparently The Register
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07:35 TR News; #linuxdotcom is just a spamfarm now. #linuxfoundation killed it, liquidated it.
07:36 TR News; Pop! _OS 21.10 Released, developing the COSMIC desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159106#comment-32140
07:36 TR Bot; Pop OS 21.10 Introduces Mini Application Menu + Bumper Updates | Tux Machines
07:37 TR News; #QEMU 6.2 Released https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.2
07:37 TR Bot; ChangeLog/6.2 - QEMU
07:39 TR News; New user guide for #LibreOffice Base https://taming-libreoffice.com/2021/12/new-user-guide-for-base/
07:39 TR Bot; New user guide for Base Taming LibreOffice
07:40 TR News; There's a release of #PAPPL 1.1. But is needs to #deletegithub or be a slave of #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware
07:42 TR News; Top 10 Unknown KDE Application to Boost Your Productivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159178 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:42 TR Bot; Top 10 Unknown KDE Application to Boost Your Productivity | Tux Machines
07:43 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/16/irc-log-151221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/16/irc-log-151221/
07:44 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 | Techrights
07:47 TR News; Canonical Kubernetes 1.23 hits GA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158865#comment-32141
07:47 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.23: The Next Frontier | Tux Machines
07:48 TR News; Trying to do Simple Tasks on Linux lol - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TtsglXhbxno #video #invidious #gnu #linux
07:48 TR Bot; Trying to do Simple Tasks on Linux lol - Invidious
07:49 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Games Amazon Luna runs on Windows and yet its hiring Linux gaming engineers https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/15/22827185/amazon-luna-linux-windows-proton-cloud-gaming-jobs-hiring
07:49 TR Bot; Amazon Luna runs on Windows and yet its hiring Linux gaming engineers - The Verge
07:49 TR News; NEWS #BarryKauler Why ISO was retired, part-2 https://bkhome.org/news/202112/why-iso-was-retired-part-2.html
07:49 TR Bot; Why ISO was retired, part-2
07:49 TR News; NEWS #DavidRosenthal #Distributions Blatant Self-Promotion https://blog.dshr.org/2021/12/blatant-self-promotion.html
07:49 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Blatant Self-Promotion
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08:51 TR News; NEWS #TechRepublic #Reviews #Kodachi is the operating system for those who value privacy but don't want to learn Linux https://www.techrepublic.com/article/kodachi-is-the-operating-system-for-those-who-value-privacy-but-dont-want-to-learn-linux/
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08:51 TR Bot; is the operating system for those who value privacy but don't want to learn Linux - TechRepublic
08:51 TR News; NEWS #DataSwamp #BSD Persistency management of memory based filesystem on #OpenBSD https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-12-15-openbsd-mfs-persistency.html
08:52 TR Bot; Solene'% : Persistency management of memory based filesystem on OpenBSD
08:54 TR News; NEWS #Systemd76 # Pop!_OS 21.10 has landed! https://blog.system76.com/post/670564272872488960/popos-2110-has-landed
08:54 TR Bot; System76 Blog Pop!_OS 21.10 has landed!
08:54 TR News; NEWS #RubenSchade #Debian The Raspberry Pi A+, and Pi-Hole https://rubenerd.com/trying-pi-hole-on-the-raspberry-pi-a-plus/
08:54 TR Bot; The Raspberry Pi A+, and Pi-Hole
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08:56 TR News; NEWS #uniToronto #Ubuntu Finding Ubuntu (and Debian) packages that are in odd state https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/DpkgFindOddPackageStates
08:56 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/DpkgFindOddPackageStates
08:57 TR News; NEWS #DrewDeVault #Ubuntu Impressions of Linux Mint & #elementaryOS https://drewdevault.com/2021/12/14/Linux-Mint-and-elementary-OS.html
08:57 TR Bot; Impressions of Linux Mint & elementary OS
08:58 TR News; NEWS #Pine64 #OpenHardware December update: a year in review https://www.pine64.org/2021/12/15/december-update-a-year-in-review/
08:58 TR Bot; December update: a year in review | PINE64
08:59 TR News; NEWS #BunnieHuang #OpenHardware Fixing a Tiny Corner of the Supply Chain https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6274
08:59 TR Bot; Fixing a Tiny Corner of the Supply Chain bunnie's blog
08:59 TR News; NEWS #JeffGeerling #OpenHardware Pine64 and Radxa's new Pi CM4-compatible boards https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/pine64-and-radxas-new-pi-cm4-compatible-boards
08:59 TR Bot; Pine64 and Radxa's new Pi CM4-compatible boards | Jeff Geerling
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09:33 TR News; NEWS #DJAdams #Chromium Controlling Chrome from the CLI https://qmacro.org/autodidactics/2021/12/14/controlling-chrome-from-the-cli/
09:33 TR Bot; Controlling Chrome from the CLI
09:39 TR News; [Old] #Vice Meet MUMPS, the Archaic Health-Care Programming Language That Predicted Big Data https://www.vice.com/en/article/3dkmg3/meet-mumps-the-archaic-health-care-programming-language-that-predicted-big-data-2
09:39 TR Bot; Meet MUMPS, the Archaic Health-Care Programming Language That Predicted Big Data
09:42 TR News; NEWS #NikitaProkopov # Programming Sublime Clojure https://tonsky.me/blog/sublime-clojure/
09:42 TR Bot; Clojure @ tonsky.me
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09:49 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Hardware #Intel thinks the metaverse will need a thousand-fold increase in computing capability https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/15/22836401/intel-metaverse-computing-capability-cpu-gpu-algorithms
09:49 TR Bot; Intel thinks the metaverse will need a thousand-fold increase in computing capability - The Verge
09:50 TR News; NEWS #PCWorld Best #USB microphones for streaming: Upgrade your stream with high-quality audio https://www.pcworld.com/article/394432/best-usb-microphones-for-streaming.html
09:50 TR Bot; USB microphones for streaming in 2021 | PCWorld
09:53 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NBC #ProprietarySoftware Ransomware attack threatens paychecks just before Christmas https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/ransomware-attack-threatens-paychecks-just-christmas-rcna8795
09:53 TR Bot; Ransomware attack threatens paychecks just before Christmas
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09:59 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #IrishTimes #ProprietarySoftware Opening of email attachment led to HSE cyber attack, report finds https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/opening-of-email-attachment-led-to-hse-cyber-attack-report-finds-1.4752043
09:59 TR Bot; Opening of email attachment led to HSE cyber attack, report finds
10:00 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #Politico #ProprietarySoftware Weak defenses made cyberattack on Irish hospitals easy, experts find https://www.politico.eu/article/ireland-cyberattack-hospitals-report-weak-defenses/ http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
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10:00 TR Bot; Weak defenses made cyberattack on Irish hospitals easy, experts find POLITICO
10:00 TR Bot; Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights
10:01 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #HSE #ProprietarySoftware HSE publishes independent report on Conti cyber attack https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/hse-publishes-independent-report-on-conti-cyber-attack.html http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
10:01 TR Bot; publishes independent report on Conti cyber attack - HSE.ie
10:01 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #MacProTricks #ProprietarySoftware Inside Irelands Public Healthcare Ransomware Scare Krebs on Security https://macprotricks.com/inside-irelands-public-healthcare-ransomware-scare-krebs-on-security/ http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ @aral
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10:01 TR Bot; Inside Irelands Public Healthcare Ransomware Scare Krebs on Security Mac Pro Tricks
10:03 TR News; NEWS #Reuters #Privacy #Surveillance EXCLUSIVE #Zoom has joined tech industry counterterrorism group https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-zoom-has-joined-tech-industry-counterterrorism-group-2021-12-15/
10:03 TR Bot; Zoom has joined tech industry counterterrorism group | Reuters
10:03 TR News; NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance #Zoom joins counterterrorism tech group https://thehill.com/policy/technology/585976-zoom-joins-counterrorism-tech-group
10:03 TR Bot; joins counterterrorism tech group | TheHill
10:04 TR News; NEWS #India #Privacy #Surveillance #Instagram hits 2 billion users but wont disclose it to the world https://telanganatoday.com/instagram-hits-2-billion-users-but-wont-disclose-it-to-the-world
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10:04 TR Bot; Instagram hits 2 billion users but won't disclose it to the world
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10:09 TR News; NEWS #HelsinkiTimes #Privacy #Surveillance At Europes newest multipurpose arena, #Nokia Arena, doors open with mobile phones https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/20616-at-europe-s-newest-multipurpose-arena-nokia-arena-doors-open-with-mobile-phones.html
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10:09 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/20616-at-europe-s-newest-multipurpose-arena-nokia-arena-doors-open-with-mobile-phones.html )
10:09 TR News; NEWS #CSMonitor #Privacy #Surveillance Press briefing: #Transparency complaint against secret #EU surveillance research iBorderCtrl https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2021/1215/Guilty-your-honor-Chauvin-admits-to-violating-Floyd-s-civil-rights
10:09 TR Bot; Chauvin pleads guilty to federal charges in George Floyd's death - CSMonitor.com
10:22 TR News; NEWS #TheDiplomat #Energy Kazakhstans Power Shortages: [Cryptocurrency] Miners and Geopolitics https://thediplomat.com/2021/11/kazakhstans-power-shortages-crypto-miners-and-geopolitics/
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10:22 TR Bot; Kazakhstans Power Shortages: Crypto Miners and Geopolitics The Diplomat
10:22 TR News; #Bitcoin Sucks Up More Electricity than Many Countries How Is That Possible? https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/bitcoin-uses-more-electricity-than-many-countries-how-is-that-possible-cd9d874b9c4e?gi=19f1b78daaf5
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10:22 TR Bot; Bitcoin Sucks Up More Electricity than Many Countries How Is That Possible? | by Nikhil Vemu | Nov, 2021 | DataDrivenInvestor
10:25 TR News; "The #EU is funding the development of a supposed video lie detector that would be used on travellers before entering the EU. Member of the European Parliament and civil liberties activist Patrick Breyer" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/press-briefing-transparency-complaint-against-secret-eu-surveillance-research-iborderctrl/
10:25 TR Bot; Press briefing: Transparency complaint against secret EU surveillance research iBorderCtrl Patrick Breyer
10:26 TR News; NEWS #BusinessInsider #Energy #Bitcoin mining consumes 0.5% of all electricity used globally and 7 times Google's total usage, new report says https://www.businessinsider.in/investment/news/bitcoin-mining-consumes-0-5-of-all-electricity-used-globally-and-7-times-googles-total-usage-new-report-says/articleshow/85995150.cms
10:26 TR Bot; Bitcoin mining consumes 0.5% of all electricity used globally and 7 times Google's total usage, new report says | Business Insider India
10:27 TR News; NEWS #NDTV #Energy Crypto Mining in #Texas May Demand 5 Times More Electricity by 2023, #ERCOT Predicts https://gadgets.ndtv.com/cryptocurrency/news/crypto-mining-energy-need-grow-5-percent-texas-ercot-2621906
10:27 TR Bot; Crypto Mining in Texas May Demand 5 Times More Electricity by 2023, ERCOT Predicts | Technology News
10:29 TR News; NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Finance #Reddit Lays Groundwork for Public Offering With Confidential SEC Filing https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/reddit-ipo-sec-filing-1235063578/
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10:29 TR Bot; Reddit Lays Groundwork for Public Offering With SEC Filing The Hollywood Reporter
10:29 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Finance #Reddit files to take the company public https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/15/22838901/reddit-going-public-sec-s-1-filing-confidential
10:29 TR Bot; Reddit files to take the company public - The Verge
10:34 TR News; NEWS #PCWorld #Politics Could #GDPR policy erase your games? It happened to an #Ubisoft customer https://www.pcworld.com/article/559218/could-gdpr-policy-erase-your-games-it-happened-to-an-ubisoft-customer.html
10:34 TR Bot; GDPR policy erase your games? It happened to an Ubisoft customer | PCWorld
10:45 TR News; NEWS #CNN #Censorship The Communist Party thinks China's prolific censors are not censoring enough https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/15/tech/china-weibo-censorship-fine-mic-intl-hnk/index.html
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10:45 TR Bot; China's most censored social media giant is fined for not censoring enough - CNN
10:52 TR News; NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Green information technology and classroom discussions https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/green-information-technology-climate-change-data-centre-e-waste-hello-world/
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10:52 TR Bot; Green information technology and classroom discussions - Raspberry Pi
10:52 TR News; NEWS #RollingStone #Springsteen #Copyrights Report: #BruceSpringsteen Sells Publishing Catalog to Sony for $500 Million https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bruce-springsteen-sells-publishing-catalog-sony-500-million-1253493/
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10:53 TR Bot; Bruce Springsteen Sells Publishing Catalog for Reported $500 Million - Rolling Stone
10:54 TR News; #hse site does not render in #firefox https://www.hse.ie/eng/ they should dump #microsoft #windows ...
10:54 TR Bot; - HSE.ie
10:54 TR News; Hey, DT! Linux Support Isnt Mentioned On The Box. (Yes, It Is!) https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/hey,-dt!-linux-support-isn't-mentioned:b #DistroTube #gnu #linux
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10:54 TR Bot; Hey, DT! Linux Support Isn't Mentioned On The Box. (Yes, It Is!)
10:55 TR News; iophk: #ubisoft is probably lying about the role of the #gdpr
10:55 TR News; iophk: notice the books being cited as models are about dystopias https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/15/22836401/intel-metaverse-computing-capability-cpu-gpu-algorithms
10:55 TR Bot; Intel thinks the metaverse will need a thousand-fold increase in computing capability - The Verge
10:55 TR News; iophk: #reuters article does not render in Firefox https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-zoom-has-joined-tech-industry-counterterrorism-group-2021-12-15/
10:58 TR News; An #eff that cares would tell people to quit using such devices altogether, but EFF became corporate and timid https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/apples-android-app-scan-airtags-necessary-step-forward-more-anti-stalking
10:58 TR Bot; Apples Android App to Scan for AirTags is a Necessary Step Forward, But More Anti-Stalking Mitigations Are Needed | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:59 TR News; NEWS #EFF #GulagTube YouTubes New #Copyright Transparency Report Leaves a Lot Out https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/youtubes-new-copyright-transparency-report-leaves-lot-out EFF takes money from #Gulag http://techrights.org/2019/01/20/google-internship-eff/
10:59 TR Bot; YouTubes New Copyright Transparency Report Leaves a Lot Out | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:59 TR Bot; The EFF Must Return That Internship Money to Google or It Would Disgrace the Patent Reform Movement (by Association) | Techrights
10:59 TR News; People Should Really Be Thankful For Open Source Software Developers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159179 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:59 TR Bot; People Should Really Be Thankful For Open Source Software Developers | Tux Machines
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11:02 TR News; #Toyota thinks THEY own your car. https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/toyota-thinks-they-own-your-car.:5 #rossmanngroup
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11:02 TR Bot; Toyota thinks THEY own your car.
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11:07 TR News; #microsoft is, at the moment, not even hiding its disdain and FUD for #freesw ... saturating the media with hostile messages. These criminals who intentionally put #backdoors in all their products..
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11:08 TR News; Oesi's pages : fighting e-patents http://www.oesiman.de/epatents.html #oesiman #swpats
11:08 TR Bot; Oesi's pages : fighting e-patents
11:09 TR News; #FOSO2021 https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107452013403903752
11:09 TR Bot; Breyer: "RT @ellanso@twitter.com #FOSO2021 kicks off @ 9P" - chaos.social
11:19 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Reddit Bans 'No Way Home Leaks' For Excessive Copyright Complaints https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-bans-no-way-home-leaks-for-excessive-copyright-complaints-211215/
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11:19 TR Bot; Bans 'No Way Home Leaks' For Excessive Copyright Complaints * TorrentFreak
11:19 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights "The Witcher" Season 2 Premiere Leaks Early on Pirate Sites https://torrentfreak.com/the-witcher-season-2-premiere-leaks-early-on-pirate-sites-211215/
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11:19 TR Bot; Witcher" Season 2 Premiere Leaks Early on Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
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11:28 TR News; 10 Best #Linux Video Players in 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159180 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:28 TR Bot; 10 Best Linux Video Players in 2021 | Tux Machines
11:29 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159181 #Linux #TuxMachines
11:29 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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12:04 TR News; #Tory #COVID19 Strategy: #Coronavirus for Everybody http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/16/uk-covid-cases/ #uk #nhs
12:04 TR Bot; Blog Archive Tory COVID-19 Strategy: Coronavirus for Everybody
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12:15 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #UEFA #DMCA Blitz Has Kept A Traditional TV Station Delisted In #Gulag For Months https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211214/11391848123/uefa-dmca-blitz-has-kept-traditional-tv-station-delisted-google-months.shtml
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12:15 TR Bot; DMCA Blitz Has Kept A Traditional TV Station Delisted In Google For Months | Techdirt
12:19 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Trademark #Trademarks The Papas and the Pappas: Burger Joint Rebrands Over Trademark Dispute https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211209/10130548087/papas-pappas-burger-joint-rebrands-over-trademark-dispute.shtml
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12:19 TR Bot; Papas and the Pappas: Burger Joint Rebrands Over Trademark Dispute | Techdirt
12:20 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship Content Moderation Case Study: #Nintendo Blocks Players From Discussing COVID, Other Subjects (2020) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211215/15185148127/content-moderation-case-study-nintendo-blocks-players-discussing-covid-other-subjects-2020.shtml
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12:20 TR Bot; Moderation Case Study: Nintendo Blocks Players From Discussing COVID, Other Subjects (2020) | Techdirt
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12:35 TR News; #Statcounter #microsoft #windows market share October: 32.44%. November: 32.34%. December (so far): 31.94%. Yeah, #Vista11 has certainly saved Microsoft.
12:39 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #cn How #China Uses Western Influencers As Pawns In Its #Propaganda War https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211214/09201548121/how-china-uses-western-influencers-as-pawns-propaganda-war.shtml
12:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211214/09201548121/how-china-uses-western-influencers-as-pawns-propaganda-war.shtml
12:39 TR Bot; China Uses Western Influencers As Pawns In Its Propaganda War | Techdirt
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12:55 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: meduza updating ok for 2.5 days in a row
12:56 schestowitz-TR; meduza en rss
12:56 schestowitz-TR; looks like not a "one off"/one timer
12:56 schestowitz-TR; seems like putin now slaps the foreign agents label on people who just sell tshirts
12:57 schestowitz-TR; laughable
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13:07 TR News; In Picture: #Microsoft #Windows Has Lost Another Half a Percent in Market Share Since Vista 11 Was Released Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/16/real-windows-market-share/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/16/real-windows-market-share/
13:07 TR Bot; In Picture: Microsoft Windows Has Lost Another Half a Percent in Market Share Since Vista 11 Was Released | Techrights
13:15 TR News; TIL: "While there has been a decrease in deaths resulting from IHD [heart disease], it remains the main cause of male deaths" https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018
13:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ons.gov.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018
13:15 TR Bot; Leading causes of death, UK - Office for National Statistics
13:16 TR News; "Dementia and Alzheimer disease has become the leading cause of death for females" in #uk https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018
13:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ons.gov.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018
13:18 activelow; reminder: https://www.dw.com/en/german-russian-relations-flare-up-over-state-run-tv-channel/a-56789631
13:19 TR Bot; relations flare up over state-run TV channel | News | DW | 05.03.2021
13:19 schestowitz-TR; activelow: same here
13:19 schestowitz-TR; since about 4 years ago
13:20 activelow; schestowitz-TR: same what?
13:20 schestowitz-TR; situation
13:20 schestowitz-TR; tensions
13:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 70.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.30
13:49 TR News; #BSDNow 433: #GhostBSD of Christmas https://www.bsdnow.tv/433 #bsd #unix
13:49 TR Bot; BSD Now 433: GhostBSD of Christmas
13:53 TR News; #Canonical is working for #Microsoft instead of competing with Microsoft https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-we-designed-ubuntu-pro-for-confidential-computing-on-azure see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/
13:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-we-designed-ubuntu-pro-for-confidential-computing-on-azure
13:53 TR Bot; we designed Ubuntu Pro for Confidential Computing on Azure | Ubuntu
13:53 TR Bot; Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights
14:16 MinceR; https://nitter.eu/TheASF/status/1400875147163279374
14:16 TR Bot; Apache - The ASF (@TheASF): "Did you know that Ingenuity, the Mars 2020 Helicopter mission, is powered by Apache Log4j? http://logging.apache.org/ #Apache #OpenSource #innovation #community #logging #services" | nitter
14:22 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/shoe-cheesecakemaster-bet-s-book-sourcefantasticallyweirdshit-261576-notes.jpeg
14:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/shoe-cheesecakemaster-bet-s-book-sourcefantasticallyweirdshit-261576-notes.jpeg
14:22 TR News; Links 16/12/2021: #QEMU 6.2 and PAPPL 1.1 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/16/qemu-6-2-and-pappl-1-1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/16/qemu-6-2-and-pappl-1-1/
14:22 TR Bot; Links 16/12/2021: QEMU 6.2 and PAPPL 1.1 | Techrights
14:23 TR News; #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft Blunders Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159182 #TuxMachines
14:23 TR Bot; Proprietary Microsoft Blunders | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: #PinePhone , #Pine64 , and PCB Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159183 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:23 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: PinePhone, Pine64, and PCB | Tux Machines
14:24 TR News; #Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159184 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:24 TR Bot; Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:24 TR News; Software and #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159185 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:24 TR Bot; Software and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:24 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159186 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:24 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:27 TR News; "Did you know that Ingenuity, the Mars 2020 Helicopter mission, is powered by Apache Log4j?" https://nitter.eu/TheASF/status/1400875147163279374
14:32 TR News; "Adding to the growing list of Mesa 22.0 features are more Radeon Vulkan "RADV" driver improvements to help with gaming performance." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Better-Sparse-Mapping
14:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Better-Sparse-Mapping
14:32 TR Bot; Mapping Improvements Help Radeon RADV Driver With Some Games - Phoronix
14:33 TR News; Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance to get a Steam release and for #GNULinux too | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/baldurs-gate-dark-alliance-to-get-a-steam-release-and-for-linux-too #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
14:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/baldurs-gate-dark-alliance-to-get-a-steam-release-and-for-linux-too
14:33 TR Bot; Gate: Dark Alliance to get a Steam release and for Linux too | GamingOnLinux
14:33 TR News; #SteamOS for the Steam Deck gets slimmed down to 10GB | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/steamos-for-the-steam-deck-gets-slimmed-down-to-10gb #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
14:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/steamos-for-the-steam-deck-gets-slimmed-down-to-10gb
14:33 TR Bot; for the Steam Deck gets slimmed down to 10GB | GamingOnLinux
14:33 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
14:44 AdmFubar1; https://xkcd.com/2553/
14:44 TR Bot; Incident Report
14:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2553/
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14:46 AdmFubar1; sounds like here sometimes...https://xkcd.com/2555/
14:46 TR Bot; Notifications
14:47 schestowitz; TotalOut0/
14:48 schestowitz-TR; typoish
14:48 schestowitz-TR; happens when you speak to mom over the phone for 2 hours while posting/reading links
14:48 TR News; #Games: Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance, SteamOS, and Hive Time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159187 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:48 TR Bot; Games: Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, SteamOS, and Hive Time | Tux Machines
14:49 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, Simple Tasks on Linux, TLLTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159188 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:49 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, Simple Tasks on Linux, TLLTS | Tux Machines
15:06 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21112030
15:06 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6020164)
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15:15 psydroid2; Ubuntu has itself become bug number 1 and needs to be fixed
15:22 MinceR; it has become part of bug number 1
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15:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.32
15:37 schestowitz; psydroid2: well put
15:37 schestowitz; we need to move gnu/linux users to another distro
15:37 schestowitz; same with firefox
15:37 schestowitz; i use librewolf now
15:37 schestowitz; it is reasonably o
15:37 schestowitz; ok
15:38 schestowitz; I trust the people behind it
15:38 schestowitz; I asked them to delete github
15:38 schestowitz; and they did
15:38 schestowitz; just recorded 40+ minutes on covid in uk
15:38 schestowitz; not for techrights
15:38 schestowitz; personal site
15:39 schestowitz; off-topic for TR
15:41 schestowitz; activelow might find it interesting though
15:48 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21111954
15:48 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6018862)
15:57 Ariadne; schestowitz: the problem with running away from gnu/linux is nvidia
15:57 schestowitz-TR; just distro
15:58 schestowitz-TR; also, better to have nvidia on linux than windiow
15:58 schestowitz-TR; same for steam drm
16:00 activelow; currently working... downgrade to gcc-4.7.4 succeeded already, c++ removal too
16:00 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Weekly_report_mortality__W50.pdf
16:01 activelow; there's only one package remaining broken in the cross-compiler environment...
16:01 *activelow won't depart to any of the available distros
16:01 activelow; they're all poisoned
16:01 schestowitz; freedom trajectory can be like this
16:01 schestowitz; starve off Windows
16:01 schestowitz; bring over people with proprietary GPUs
16:01 schestowitz; games+drm
16:02 activelow; for the same reason i departed from IBM Wintel PC, i am departing from all recent GNU/Linux systems
16:02 schestowitz; Gulag Search
16:02 schestowitz; then, improve risc-v or similar
16:02 schestowitz; over time, convince people to make these the next CP
16:02 schestowitz; PC
16:02 schestowitz; gnu/linux does not reqyuire much in resources anyway
16:02 schestowitz; then the DRM stops working
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16:03 schestowitz; and the games seem expensive overkill
16:03 activelow; i'm not excited about RISC-V either... anyway, as long as i am not forced to use or work with any such system or company
16:03 schestowitz; no more $1000 PCs
16:03 schestowitz; you can wean them off the crap they got accustomed to
16:03 activelow; raspberry pi zero W 2.... quadcore sold for $15
16:03 schestowitz; activelow: well, it's a lesser problem to us
16:03 schestowitz; and it's not expensive
16:03 schestowitz; some are expensive
16:03 schestowitz; the devkits
16:04 schestowitz; it's a bigger problem is too many move to clown and things like Visual Studio
16:04 *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@6nvxnbfs9k26u.irc) has joined #techrights
16:04 schestowitz; Microsoft is trying to control the next gen of DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1
16:04 schestowitz; Some 'Linux' sites even help them
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16:05 schestowitz; people don't need CPUs that are power-hungry and barely a GPU once they get tired of bloated games
16:06 schestowitz; and get off the 'Web' (JS+Electron+zillion trackers)
16:06 schestowitz; 'webapps' should be possible to trim down by a factor of 10
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16:18 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ThtqoNKTsQ
16:18 TR Bot; The DVD Logo Is Wrong - YouTube
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16:24 TR News; TuxMachines
16:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159189 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:35 TR News; #Kenya must bin its repressive Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Bill - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/kenya-must-bin-computer-misuse-and-cybercrimes-bill/ #accessnow
16:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/kenya-must-bin-computer-misuse-and-cybercrimes-bill/
16:35 TR Bot; Kenya must bin its repressive Computer Misuse and Cybercrimes Bill - Access Now
16:36 TR News; #Christmas Lithophanes Make Neat Decorations | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/16/christmas-lithophanes-make-neat-decorations/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
16:36 TR Bot; Lithophanes Make Neat Decorations | Hackaday
16:36 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
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16:37 TR News; #ibm #redhat actively discourages critical thinking though https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/it-careers-10-essential-skills-2022
16:37 TR Bot; IT careers: 10 essential skills for 2022 | The Enterprisers Project
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16:37 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:37 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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16:39 TR News; They should mention #microsoft #windows being a principal culprit, but it might upset their partner https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/security-4-issues-watch-2022 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
16:39 TR Bot; IT security: 4 issues to watch in 2022 | The Enterprisers Project
16:39 TR Bot; Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights
16:40 TR News; To have a discussion about #ransomware without pointing out that #microsoft #windows is insecure by design (the #nsa #backdoors and poor development model) is to deal with it like a religious debate, not a scientific one http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
16:41 TR News; #ibm #redhat promoting complexity which most businesses/users do not need or want. But it helps sell support contracts. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/kubernetes-labels-best-practices
16:41 TR Bot; Kubernetes labels: 11 things to know | Enable Sysadmin
16:43 TR News; First Look At The Pinephone Successor! - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/aVQTimWLJdP6K58KYXGLsr #kde #gnu #linux
16:43 TR Bot; First Look At The Pinephone Successor! - Kockatoo Tube
16:46 TR News; #JingPad Review: The #KDE Plasma Fork iPad? (Music fixed) - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/9kgKnd8KuLnwnVCHYAwuC5 #gnu #linux
16:46 TR Bot; JingPad Review: The KDE Plasma Fork iPad? (Music fixed) - Kockatoo Tube
16:47 TR News; "This is the 97th issue of syslog-ng Insider, a monthly newsletter that brings you syslog-ng-related news." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-syslog-ng-insider-2021-12-humio-log-management-panther
16:47 TR Bot; syslog-ng insider 2021-12: Humio; Log Management; Panther; - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
16:50 TR News; #ibm #redhat attacks IBM/Red Hat for attacking RMS, showing that racist IBM knows nothing about including people whose grasp of social cues if weaker, and not by choice https://opensource.com/open-organization/21/12/being-autistic-open-organization
16:50 TR Bot; autistic in an open organization | Opensource.com
16:51 TR News; #ibm #redhat : we're a-holes, we know it, and we like it. WATCHA gonna do about it, EH? http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
16:51 TR Bot; IBM - Techrights
16:52 TR News; #ibm #redhat as textbook definition of #racism http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/
16:52 TR Bot; Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat Just Like Donald Trump Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights
16:53 TR News; But #credit to #ibm ... still operating in the spirit of ol' man Watson http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/
16:53 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
16:55 TR News; If you work for #ibm / #redhat don't lecture us on inclusion. Spare yourself the embarrassment and the hypocrisy you might be indoctrinated to not even be aware of.
16:55 TR News; Two #ODF Toolkit releases in a row! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159191 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachines
16:55 TR Bot; Two ODF Toolkit releases in a row! | Tux Machines
16:56 TR News; "As #Android and #GNU / #Linux grow ( #ChromeOS is also based on GNU/Linux) we must come to accept and generally understand that Windows is rapidly losing its default OS status and #Microsoft is currently filling the media with FUD (over an Apache bug thats already patched anyway)." http://techrights.org/2021/12/16/real-windows-market-share/
16:56 TR Bot; In Picture: Microsoft Windows Has Lost Another Half a Percent in Market Share Since Vista 11 Was Released | Techrights
16:58 TR News; Relax with some Makulu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157262#comment-32142
16:58 TR Bot; New Releases and Updates of Makulu Linux | Tux Machines
16:58 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:58 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:00 TR News; #techrights will be focused on #slovenia in the coming days. #epo #corruption
17:00 TR News; 6 Excellent Free Books to Learn Racket - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-books-learn-racket/ #LinuxLinks #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
17:00 TR Bot; Excellent Free Books to Learn Racket - LinuxLinks
17:01 TR News; #tecmint kind of sucks lately, reposting very old articles from over 5 years ago :/ https://www.tecmint.com/linux-performance-monitoring-with-vmstat-and-iostat-commands/
17:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tecmint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tecmint.com/linux-performance-monitoring-with-vmstat-and-iostat-commands/
17:01 TR Bot; Linux Performance Monitoring with Vmstat and Iostat Commands
17:03 TR News; Lack of public code cost the city of #Stockholm 100 million https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20211216-01.en.html #sweden #freesw #GulagDeutschland #FSFE
17:03 TR Bot; Lack of public code cost the city of Stockholm 100 million - FSFE
17:04 TR News; #Rockchip RK3588 datasheet available, SBCs coming soon - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/16/rockchip-rk3588-datasheet-sbc-coming-soon/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
17:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/16/rockchip-rk3588-datasheet-sbc-coming-soon/
17:04 TR Bot; Rockchip RK3588 datasheet available, SBC's coming soon - CNX Software
17:04 schestowitz-TR; activelow: thoughts on this one? ^^^
17:06 TR News; Celebrate the first #openSUSE BAR anniversary! - openSUSE News https://news.opensuse.org/2021/12/15/bar-anniversary/ #news | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
17:06 TR Bot; Celebrate the first openSUSE BAR anniversary! - openSUSE News
17:06 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
17:06 activelow; schestowitz-TR: good question
17:07 schestowitz-TR; pine634
17:07 schestowitz-TR; 64
17:07 activelow; i had issues with both pine64, and rockchip
17:07 TR News; Intel Enabling Resizable BAR To Work With I/O Virtualization On Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Resizable-BAR-Linux-IOV #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
17:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Resizable-BAR-Linux-IOV
17:07 TR Bot; Enabling Resizable BAR To Work With I/O Virtualization On Linux - Phoronix
17:08 activelow; iirc the rk3588 is one of the heterogenous SMP chips (big.LITTLE), with the big core cluster being "out-of-order" execution pipelined etc.
17:08 activelow; this contradicts the idea of RISC, cortex-A72 and similar
17:09 activelow; furthermore, those ARM SoC are proprietary hardware
17:10 activelow; the rockchip SoC are decent chips, powerful, with alot of GNU/linux support (needs to be verified with the most recent generation if anything was blobbed again as it initially was with rk3328 and rk3399 chips too)
17:10 activelow; some Linux systems shipped the blobbed boot-loader, Armbian is OK... if Armbian is listing "supported" for any desired board
17:11 activelow; however, personally, i will not acquire any of those rockchip/pine/arm boards again
17:11 activelow; alltogether, with aarch64 the ISA is growing again, lots of special compiler switches and variants for various ARM CPUs... again contradicting the idea of RISC somehow
17:12 TR News; Play a digital orchestra with Linux Sampler Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:12 TR Bot; Play a digital orchestra with Linux Sampler | Tux Machines
17:13 activelow; and, rockchip (and/or armbian) didn't mainline all required patches for rk3328/rk3399; which is very annoying
17:14 activelow; for my workflow, with rudimentary verification
17:14 activelow; meaning, i have a look at the source codes, and if patches are scattered accross dozens of branches and distros that's horrible
17:16 activelow; alltogether, the rockchip/pine64 boards are among the best supported ARM SBC for GNU/Linux, very powerful, low power consumption
17:18 activelow; these require less or no malicious blobs at all in comparison to raspberry, however raspberry are more widely deployed
17:18 activelow; not sure, pine64 may or may not offer long-term-supply, and occasionally various desired boards were not produced or sold at all
17:19 activelow; for example, i considered their original pinebook (with allwinner chip), however this isn't available anywhere
17:19 activelow; and in this case, even with perfect software support from GNU/Linux/Armbian, any effort is futile
17:19 TR News; Performance enhancements in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:19 TR Bot; Performance enhancements in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 | Tux Machines
17:21 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/12/16/it-s-probably-a-mistake ye saw this, right?
17:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/12/16/it-s-probably-a-mistake
17:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
17:21 TR News; Meet Ghislaine: Daddys Girl https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/12/investigative-reports/meet-ghislaine-daddys-girl/
17:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/12/investigative-reports/meet-ghislaine-daddys-girl/
17:21 TR Bot; Meet Ghislaine: Daddy's Girl
17:21 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: not yet
17:21 schestowitz-TR; I'm always a day behind
17:22 TR News; #Valheim gets christmassy, armour stands and silences tamed wolves | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/valheim-gets-christmassy-armour-stands-and-silences-tamed-wolves #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
17:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/valheim-gets-christmassy-armour-stands-and-silences-tamed-wolves
17:22 TR Bot; gets christmassy, armour stands and silences tamed wolves | GamingOnLinux
17:23 activelow; furthermore, i noticed, Armbian upgraded Kernel from 4.4LTS to 5.10LTS... and this broke some hardware support for some rk3328 SBC from pine64... which is disappointing given rk3328 hit the market in year 2016, was stabilized since then, and a few month later an update broke the 3.5mm audio-jack output (which isn't fixed yet to my knowledge)
17:23 activelow; and this is another show-stopper, if kernel-upgrades, which support the desired hardware, break things which worked perfectly before
17:24 XRevan86; > In a verdict handed down in November, a Russian court openly referred to the presence of Russian military personnel stationed in the DNR and LNR the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk peoples republics in eastern Ukraine.
17:24 XRevan86; > Commenting on these reports, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov insisted that there arent any Russian military personnel stationed in the peoples republics in eastern Ukraine.
17:24 activelow; at least, kernel 4.4LTS is an extreme long term one, however, none of the developers i asked had recommended anymore to downgrade to kernel 4.4version, which had spared me some days/weeks of bug tracking and testing and patching
17:24 TR News; #KDEneon 20211216 released https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux
17:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://neon.kde.org/
17:24 TR Bot; KDE neon
17:25 activelow; not sure which kernel version will be required for rk3588; for all i know i'll not invest any development effort into this
17:25 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: they must be just inflatable dolls
17:25 XRevan86; Inflatable dolls that need ration supplies.
17:26 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/12/15/germany-expels-two-russian-diplomats-following-alleged-fsb-officer-s-murder-conviction also this happened.
17:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/12/15/germany-expels-two-russian-diplomats-following-alleged-fsb-officer-s-murder-conviction
17:26 TR Bot; NO TITLE
17:26 XRevan86; activelow probably has an opinion on that.
17:26 TR News; "Released on December 14th, #PopOS 21.10 is built on the latest Ubuntu base, and features a new application library feature." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hVFjV0zU8a0
17:26 TR Bot; Pop!_OS 21.10 - Full Review! - Invidious
17:27 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Pop!_OS 21.10 and some of the applications pre-installed." ttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=msJwx3SrhRc
17:28 TR News; My Stance on Our Government's Response to #Coronavirus in 2020 and in 2021 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/16/response-to-coronavirus/ #covid19 #uk
17:28 TR Bot; Blog Archive My Stance on Our Governments Response to Coronavirus in 2020 and in 2021
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17:32 activelow; meanwhile, ALL required packages succeeded, with a new cross-compiler from armv6 (i won't follow aarch64 if it can be avoided);
17:32 XRevan86; armv6, cool
17:33 XRevan86; Brings me back all the way to the year 2009.
17:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.31
17:34 activelow; armv8 is backward compatible to armv6, and with armv6 i wouldn't need to recompile for different variants too often (meaning i can drop for raspi1/2/3/4 and various rockchip, and only alter the bootloader and similar)
17:34 activelow; not sure yet, if kernel compiled for armv6 fully supports aarch64 rk3328/rk3399 chips... it should
17:34 XRevan86; Are ye sure ye don't mean armv7?
17:34 activelow; XRevan86: opinion on what?
17:35 activelow; nope, i chose armv6, because it intersected with a raspberry pi version (and similar)
17:35 XRevan86; activelow: A guy who killed a Chechen dissident with a gun in Germany and got caught trying to get rid of the evidence.
17:36 XRevan86; activelow: Raspberry Pi is years younger than ARMv6.
17:36 activelow; XRevan86: i got no opinion on that, only followed news the agent is put on trial in germany now
17:38 XRevan86; oh, the very first one was indeed ARMv6
17:38 activelow; ARMv6=ARM11, somewhat confusing
17:39 XRevan86; RPi 2+ are ARMv7
17:39 activelow; yes, and armv6 with hardfloat should be good enough... i'll find out soon... required two weeks to repair cross-compilation
17:39 XRevan86; (or later)
17:40 activelow; the idea is, even modern aarch64/armv8 systems can be booted and run on armv6/32bit kernel/userland
17:40 activelow; and from there, i can deploy to any target which is armv6 minimum
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17:40 activelow; ups...
17:40 activelow; anyway.
17:41 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/12/14/morning-funny-pic-dump-12-14-21/
17:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/12/14/morning-funny-pic-dump-12-14-21/
17:41 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
17:43 activelow; XRevan86: otherwise, to answer the other question. i cannot verify anything related to the murder case and the accused.
17:44 activelow; at court the lawyer was cited with the argument, the suspect had nothing to do with it and there was no proof for anything
17:44 activelow; Berlin, Germany, reported yesterday
17:44 activelow; and anti-russian politics try to capitalize upon this, to attack Northstream2 project (which is not related to the case), however some call for sanctions
17:46 activelow; to be precise, the ones who regularly incite and agitate ("Alliance90/greens"), who try to subvert foreign politics elsewhere, influence peddling, to support Burisma/London and their interests
17:46 activelow; which was the Biden-related realm, Navalny, among other opposition involved
17:47 activelow; i got no opinion on this, all i say is i cannot verify anything; and "Russia Today" is forbidden to broadcast in germany
17:48 XRevan86; "and "Russia Today" is forbidden to broadcast in germany" <- they have it coming.
17:48 activelow; XRevan86: https://www.dw.com/en/german-russian-relations-flare-up-over-state-run-tv-channel/a-56789631
17:48 TR Bot; relations flare up over state-run TV channel | News | DW | 05.03.2021
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18:12 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/C4comic.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2166/ )
18:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/C4comic.png
18:12 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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18:20 TR News; Apache Log4j: remote code execution vulnerability http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158990#comment-32143
18:20 TR Bot; Security Alert: Apache Log4j Zero Day Exploit | Tux Machines
18:21 TR News; What does 2022 have in store for Asahi Linux on Apple chips? Drivers aplenty, but that GPU still needs tackling http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159166#comment-32144
18:21 TR Bot; Kernel Work on M1 Support | Tux Machines
18:22 TR News; LOL. Bruce Schneier uses #zdnet as a source...
18:24 TR News; Key Takeaways: The JPC Report and the Data Protection Bill, 2021 #SaveOurPrivacy https://internetfreedom.in/key-takeaways-the-jpc-report-and-the-data-protection-bill-2021-saveourprivacy-2/ #internetfreedom #internet #india
18:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/key-takeaways-the-jpc-report-and-the-data-protection-bill-2021-saveourprivacy-2/
18:24 TR Bot; Key Takeaways: The JPC Report and the Data Protection Bill, 2021 #SaveOurPrivacy
18:25 TR News; C:\ProgramData\Siemens\Automation https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-014-05 #proprietarySoftware #fakeSecurity
18:25 TR Bot; Siemens TIA Portal (Update C) | CISA
18:26 MinceR; Thanks In Advance Portal
18:30 TR News; Kubernetes 1.23: StatefulSet PVC Auto-Deletion (alpha) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158865#comment-32146
18:30 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.23: The Next Frontier | Tux Machines
18:30 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159195 #Linux #TuxMachines
18:30 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:31 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: said the cracker
18:31 TR News; Personal Data Protection Bill: this is not the privacy law India needs - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/personal-data-protection-bill-india/ #accessnow
18:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/personal-data-protection-bill-india/
18:31 TR Bot; Personal Data Protection Bill: this is not the privacy law India needs - Access Now
18:31 MinceR; :)
18:32 TR News; All about #proprietarySoftware https://www.accessnow.org/state-department-spyware-report/
18:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/state-department-spyware-report/
18:32 TR Bot; U.S. State Departments new spyware report: a big step forward - Access Now
18:36 TR News; Freexians report about Debian Long Term Support, November 2021 https://raphaelhertzog.com/2021/12/16/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-november-2021/ #debian #gnu #linux
18:36 TR Bot; Freexians report about Debian Long Term Support, November 2021
18:37 TR News; #LinuxFoundation fake "research" (marketing) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158828#comment-32147
18:37 TR Bot; 'Linux' Foundation Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:38 TR News; #linuxfoundation -- like #epo management -- is anti-scientific. Imposers and predators being improperly put by corporations... in charge of the scientist to oppress them and keep them down
18:39 TR News; "it aint fast, but it is fast enough, to run a web stack and serve the http://mycpu.eu/ website, absolutely amazing!" https://dwaves.de/2021/12/16/8bit-computer-made-in-germany/ activelow might like it...
18:39 TR Bot; The MyCPU - Project: A homebrew computer by Dennis Kuschel
18:39 TR Bot; 8Bit Computer Made in Germany | dwaves.de
18:40 TR News; What ludicrous ad for #outsourcing in #clowncomputing clothing https://www.suse.com/c/customer-best-practices-which-make-the-trip-to-the-cloud-much-easier/ #suse #spam
18:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/customer-best-practices-which-make-the-trip-to-the-cloud-much-easier/
18:40 TR Bot; Best Practices Which Make the Trip to the Cloud Much Easier | SUSE Communities
18:42 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/shoot.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2177/ )
18:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/shoot.png
18:42 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
18:42 TR News; If you actively install malicious code, it will do malicious things https://hackaday.com/2021/12/16/pinephone-malware-surprises-users-raises-questions/"
18:42 TR Bot; Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions | Hackaday
18:44 TR News; This maker designed an interactive LED-lit dress inspired by Katniss Everdeens | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/16/this-maker-designed-an-interactive-led-lit-dress-inspired-by-katniss-everdeens/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
18:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/16/this-maker-designed-an-interactive-led-lit-dress-inspired-by-katniss-everdeens/
18:44 TR Bot; This maker designed an interactive LED-lit dress inspired by Katniss Everdeen's | Arduino Blog
18:44 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
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18:56 TR News; #ibm #redhat reduced to mindless fluff like "Clown" and "Hey Hi" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-and-boston-university-announce-red-hat-collaboratory-research-incubation-award-recipients
18:56 TR Bot; Red Hat and Boston University Announce Red Hat Collaboratory Research Incubation Award Recipients
18:57 TR News; "This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community [sic]Platform Engineering) Team." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-december-13th-17th/ #ibm in fake 'community' clothing
18:57 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update Week of December 13th 17th Fedora Community Blog
19:01 TR News; "Tutu criticised the National Party, which formalised apartheid, and its supporters for having prized discord, the opposite of harmony." https://www.news24.com/citypress/voices/what-archbishop-tutus-ubuntu-credo-teaches-the-world-about-justice-and-harmony-20211216
19:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: news24.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.news24.com/citypress/voices/what-archbishop-tutus-ubuntu-credo-teaches-the-world-about-justice-and-harmony-20211216
19:01 TR Bot; What Archbishop Tutus ubuntu credo teaches the world about justice and harmony | Citypress
19:02 TR News; #canonical : from #ubuntu being "humanity to others" to "human fodder for #microsoft ..." http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/
19:02 TR Bot; Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights
19:04 TR News; Mark Shuttleworth (MS): R3.5 billion to sell millions of worthless certs (a sort of pyramid scheme) to #VeriSign ... now selling millions of #gnu #linux users to #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/
19:04 TR Bot; Cancel Canonical? | Techrights
19:04 schestowitz-TR; leah: ^ got any use of savegnu.org?
19:05 schestowitz-TR; might want to raise awareness of the need to support community distros
19:05 schestowitz-TR; suse, ibm, and mark shuttleworth (MS) are selling us out for money
19:06 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159196 #GNU #Linux
19:06 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:09 hyperreal; MinceR what do you do as a career?
19:10 schestowitz-TR; programming cats
19:10 hyperreal; lol
19:10 schestowitz-TR; he's a programmer
19:10 schestowitz-TR; maybe afk atm
19:10 hyperreal; ah
19:10 TR News; "Boost is a very large and comprehensive set of (peer-reviewed) libraries for the C++ programming language, containing well over 100 individual libraries." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/12/16/ #programming #cpp
19:10 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
19:11 TR News; #Valve reduces the size of #SteamOS on the Steam Deck to 10GB | TechSpot https://www.techspot.com/news/92656-valve-reduces-size-steamos-steam-deck-10gb.html #techspot | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/16/#latest
19:11 TR Bot; reduces the size of SteamOS on the Steam Deck to 10GB | TechSpot
19:12 MinceR; hyperreal: software engineering
19:12 hyperreal; ah. what languages do you use/know?
19:13 MinceR; python, c++, c, several others to a lesser degree, and i'm learning common lisp nowadays
19:13 hyperreal; ah okay
19:14 MinceR; i thought i knew perl until i tried to pass an array as a parameter and to implement a closure, now i know i know enough of it to avoid it :>
19:14 TR News; PostgreSQL: #pgAdmin 4 v6.3 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-4-v63-released-2373/ #postgresql #psql #postgres
19:14 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.3 Released
19:14 hyperreal; lol
19:14 schestowitz-TR; ah
19:14 schestowitz-TR; we use a lot of perl
19:16 TR News; #FOSSlife Team became little but a mouthpiece of #linuxfoundation i.e. #proprietarySoftware #openwashing imposters. But this should not be surprising considering the staff's former employment. https://www.fosslife.org/new-training-course-teaches-fundamentals-open-source-it
19:16 TR Bot; New Training Course Teaches Fundamentals of Open Source IT
19:17 TR News; #LinuxFoundation is, in a nutshell, bad for the #linux project and the Linux brand.
19:17 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comiccomediannnnn.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2180/ )
19:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comiccomediannnnn.png
19:17 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
19:17 TR News; #eBay and #Amazon selling 'bombs' for profit https://dwaves.de/2021/12/16/woooot-ebay-and-amazon-wtf-okay-with-dangerous-fake-and-scam-phones-s21-ultra-offered-and-sold-via-its-platform-some-come-with-exploding-chargers/
19:17 TR Bot; WOOOOT eBay and Amazon (wtf!?) okay with dangerous Fake and Scam Phones (S21 Ultra) offered and sold via its platform (some come with exploding chargers) | dwaves.de
19:18 hyperreal; MinceR do you ever use Go?
19:18 MinceR; no
19:18 schestowitz-TR; Go is controlled by Gulag
19:18 schestowitz-TR; and Gulag gets worse over time
19:18 schestowitz-TR; I'd not invest in it
19:18 MinceR; i don't like languages that generate extra work for me
19:19 schestowitz-TR; same for their android framewortks
19:19 MinceR; like early java and rust
19:19 MinceR; and pure functional languages
19:20 hyperreal; what do you mean by generate extra work?
19:20 TR News; More #linuxfoundation junk today from #spamnil site, shilling #patent pools and #monopolies that do #surveillance
19:20 MinceR; stuff like having to copy/paste data structure definitions to accommodate different types
19:20 MinceR; and translating a stateful algorithm to a pure functional one so the compiler will be willing to eat it
19:21 XRevan86; MinceR: Wise choice. Perl5 is the most inconsistent ugly language I've ever seen.
19:21 MinceR; have you seen php? :>
19:21 XRevan86; I was about to say that I'm okay with PHP
19:21 MinceR; i don't even admit i know php
19:21 MinceR; or microsoft visual java
19:22 MinceR; i don't want to touch those with a 10-foot pole
19:22 XRevan86; PHP at least developed guild lines and ways to write decent code.
19:24 leah; i have been summoned
19:24 MinceR; php discourages decent code :>
19:24 TR News; #PopOS 21.10 is out - Linux News - Invidious Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jIrk72vetzM #video #invidious #gnu #linux
19:24 TR Bot; PopOS 21.10 is out, 30% more FPS in Minecraft on Linux and Steam on Chrome OS - Linux News - Invidious
19:24 leah; schestowitz-TR: my savegnu.org plans are cancelled. fsf/gnu are on their own. they made it clear they don't need me anymore
19:24 MinceR; leah: what did they tell you?
19:24 schestowitz-TR; yes, but the domain
19:25 XRevan86; MinceR: Eh, can we agree that perl is worse? :)
19:25 MinceR; probably not
19:25 schestowitz-TR; iirc, leah said jonhs would stick around for a while
19:25 schestowitz-TR; to manage fsf stuff
19:25 MinceR; though i don't know if php makes argument passing and/or closures painful or impossible
19:26 MinceR; on some level, i found perl5 comfortable enough to use and i never saw php as that
19:26 MinceR; but back then i didn't try doing such things in perl5 :>
19:26 leah; schestowitz-TR: i didn't say that. johns did
19:26 leah; he said it with his non-actions
19:27 TR News; "Warnings category syntax contains a number of sub-categories representing possibly-problematic syntax. These include ambiguous syntax, problematic bareword usage, invalid printf conversions, and more. But there are also syntax diagnostics that do not fall under any of the sub-categories." http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/12/my-favorite-warnings-syntax.html
19:27 TR Bot; Favorite Warnings: syntax | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
19:27 leah; apparently he really is going though. fsf did their first bulletin in a while, and it wasn't written by john
19:27 XRevan86; MinceR: The answer is it doesn't.
19:27 leah; MinceR: they didn't tell me anything. that's the point
19:28 XRevan86; MinceR: Argument passing is fairly rare since PHP is CoW, but it's there.
19:28 leah; i mean what is there to say
19:28 TR News; Small-scale autonomous boat made out of recycled water bottles and a #Tupperware container | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/16/small-scale-autonomous-boat-made-out-of-recycled-water-bottles-and-a-tupperware-container/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
19:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/16/small-scale-autonomous-boat-made-out-of-recycled-water-bottles-and-a-tupperware-container/
19:28 TR Bot; Small-scale autonomous boat made out of recycled water bottles and a Tupperware container | Arduino Blog
19:28 leah; i'm doing all the real work while they stand on their soapbox. nothing is different than before
19:29 MinceR; XRevan86: then php might be better than i think, but i can't really be arsed to get back to it just to find out
19:29 leah; schestowitz-TR: i don't care about the ubuntu stuff. people will see it and just abandon them
19:29 MinceR; XRevan86: so i guess the answer to your question is that it is beyond my knowledge :>
19:29 leah; this is free software
19:29 XRevan86; MinceR: Fair enough.
19:29 leah; if you fuck up, you get forked
19:30 MinceR; leah: i see
19:30 leah; i'm planning to switch back to debian sid soon. was going to do alpine, but i need to stick to what i know for now. but i'm going to try out a bunch of distros in VMs to get all my software compiling on them all
19:31 schestowitz-TR; leah: is pureboot any good?
19:31 leah; what the hell is pureboot
19:31 schestowitz-TR; oh
19:32 leah; oh my fucking god are you shitting me
19:32 MinceR; :D
19:32 leah; is this what i fucking this it is you fuck
19:32 leah; btw
19:32 schestowitz; https://docs.puri.sm/PureBoot.html
19:32 TR Bot; PureBoot - Purism - Librem products documentation
19:32 leah; i'm not calling you a fuck
19:32 leah; i'm calling todd a fuck
19:32 schestowitz; I thought you knew alreayd
19:32 schestowitz; little known about it
19:32 leah; fuck my life
19:33 schestowitz; but hey!!
19:33 schestowitz; at least they did not call it LibremBOOT
19:33 schestowitz; that would kind of suck ;-)
19:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.33
19:33 leah; but yeah, pureboot seems to be a total waste of time, from skimming their site
19:34 leah; let's see if they have a git repo
19:34 schestowitz-TR; self-branded
19:34 leah; the only way they can skip incurring my wrath is if i find they haven't used osbmk/lbmk
19:34 leah; otherwise all hell breaks loose
19:35 schestowitz-TR; don't know what it is
19:35 leah; ok, no repo
19:36 leah; todd weaver is a shiester. a total conman
19:36 leah; everything he does just rips off of hard work done by others
19:36 leah; he contributes precisely zero to free software
19:36 leah; in fact he may even be hurting it
19:36 leah; by steering people away from worthwhile projects
19:36 leah; pureos is a joke
19:36 leah; and the fsf endorses that nonsense
19:37 leah; seems like purism is using heads build system in pureboot
19:37 leah; https://docs.puri.sm/PureBoot/Heads.html#heads
19:37 TR Bot; Heads - Purism - Librem products documentation
19:38 leah; you know their coreboot that they ship is all blobs, right?
19:38 XRevan86; Did they rebrand their 3.5 coreboot patches as PureBoot?
19:38 leah; like, not even 95% free
19:38 leah; 0% free
19:38 leah; the only free thing is the payload
19:38 leah; and the minimal shim/shit code from coreboot project gluing all that together
19:38 schestowitz-TR; leah: maybe he does marketing
19:38 leah; gee, you think?
19:38 schestowitz-TR; I don't have much good to say
19:38 leah; he's the best marketer ever
19:39 schestowitz-TR; but I think they do not harm
19:39 leah; that's all he is. a man in a suit, selling you snake oil
19:39 leah; meanwhile, people like me do all the work
19:39 leah; and that guy steers people away towards him instead. and he does nothing
19:39 schestowitz-TR; sounds like zemlin
19:39 leah; todd weaver is on my shitlist
19:39 leah; has been since i first learned he existed. i took one look at him from day one and i saw exactly what he was doing
19:40 leah; i foresaw pureboot
19:40 leah; i saw it coming
19:40 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/11/25/purism-librem-5-orders/
19:40 TR Bot; Purism Librem 5 Orders Take Too Long (No Delivery) as Biggest Fans Grow Impatient | Techrights
19:40 leah; fuck purism
19:40 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/10/31/purism-false-promises/
19:40 TR Bot; Purisms Problems Purely Boil Down to Trust and False Promises | Techrights
19:40 schestowitz; read on
19:40 leah; you want a modern laptop that's reasonably fast and has shimboot on it, go buy a system76
19:40 schestowitz; how he treated his own staff
19:40 leah; system76 is superior to purism
19:40 schestowitz; firing them on the sport
19:40 schestowitz; spot
19:41 leah; and system76 actually cares about schematics/boardviews and right to repair
19:41 leah; todd sees everything as just buzzwords to exploit
19:41 activelow; wake me up when any of the x86_64 Verilog are available, including all peripherals
19:41 schestowitz-TR; "USA Edition"
19:41 leah; https://puri.sm/projects/coreboot/
19:41 TR Bot; Coreboot Firmware on Purism Librem Devices Purism
19:41 leah; quote: "NOTE: If you have an older model Librem which shipped with proprietary AMI firmware, and your OS was installed in UEFI mode, you will need to reinstall it after, or migrate it before flashing our coreboot image (see Migrating a UEFI-based install below)."
19:41 schestowitz-TR; ding ding
19:41 activelow; techrights-news> "it aint fast, but it is fast enough, to run a web stack and serve the http://mycpu.eu/ website, absolutely amazing!" https://dwaves.de/2021/12/16/8bit-computer-made-in-germany/ activelow might like it...
19:41 leah; to be clear:
19:41 TR Bot; The MyCPU - Project: A homebrew computer by Dennis Kuschel
19:41 XRevan86; youtube-dl suddenly got itself a new update.
19:41 TR Bot; 8Bit Computer Made in Germany | dwaves.de
19:41 schestowitz-TR; pay $2000 for the same
19:41 leah; from day one, they promised coreboot
19:42 schestowitz-TR; assembeld in usland
19:42 leah; and the first librem version shipped with proprietary bios
19:42 leah; that's fraud
19:42 leah; absolute fraud
19:42 leah; and the first coreboot port to librem wasn't done by purism. it was done by a bored google employee named Duncan Laurie, on his lunch breaks, laughing at purism the whole time
19:42 leah; :P
19:43 schestowitz-TR; ah
19:43 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the warning
19:43 leah; warning?
19:43 schestowitz-TR; you would know this bast (your ballpark)
19:43 schestowitz-TR; *best
19:43 XRevan86; leah: Random question: is SeaBIOS the best payload for a general purpose BIOS?
19:43 leah; alas, todd is a liar
19:43 leah; and a con artist
19:43 leah; um
19:43 leah; well, seabios is the only free choice for legacy bios stuff
19:43 leah; the only one i know of anyway
19:44 TR News; New GNU/Linux Videos: Pop!_OS, JingPad, Pinephone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159197 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:44 TR Bot; New GNU/Linux Videos: Pop!_OS, JingPad, Pinephone | Tux Machines
19:44 XRevan86; By general purpose I mean not literally Linux inside BIOS.
19:44 leah; but i guess "bios" just means "boot firmware" in your mind. you're not thinking literally about x86 bios services, but about the whole thing, right?
19:44 leah; i think gnu grub is better than seabios
19:44 leah; but with that (as payload) you don't get bios services. stuff that actually uses the bios routines (old windows, dos etc) won't run
19:45 leah; linux kernel runs on bare metal
19:45 leah; it's an on-the-metal kernel on x86
19:45 leah; it doesn't use bios/uefi stuff. that's why in libreboot we can have just grub in firmware and boot a kernel and it works
19:45 XRevan86; leah: Would it need a hard coded location for /boot or something?
19:46 leah; (and it will use text mode, coreboot framebuffer or the video driver for your graphics hardware takes over and sets up its own framebuffer)
19:46 leah; sorry, i'm very pissed off about pureboot and need to calm down
19:46 leah; every time todd breathes, i get angry. i absolutely am fundamentally annoyed at his very being, he is scum
19:47 leah; https://puri.sm/learn/freedom-roadmap/
19:47 TR Bot; The Purism Freedom Roadmap Purism
19:47 leah; and fsf took purism's money in 2019 and gave them a booth at lp2019
19:48 leah; and purism dares to speak libreboot's name, on that page
19:48 leah; you know todd once wrote on puri.sm that he contacted me and was working with me, right?
19:48 leah; he literally lied that i was working with him
19:48 leah; he never did. and never will
19:48 leah; i will never be associated with him
19:49 leah; to him, libreboot is a buzzword. and he's never going to do it
19:49 leah; but he puts it on that page as a "roadmap" to suggest that he has something to do with it
19:49 leah; it's absolutely infuriating. he's pissing all over what i do, and making money doing it
19:50 leah; he is nothing. and i hope he rots in jail one day. he's committing major fraud
19:50 leah; fuck purism and fuck the fsf for promoting them (booth at lp2019, and pureos endorsement)
19:51 leah; (and john sullivan promoting librem laptops directly, in his talk at freenode.live 2017. fortunately for him, that talk wasn't recorded and put online. but i was there)
19:51 leah; (no mention of libreboot in said talk)
19:52 schestowitz-TR; wow
19:52 leah; schestowitz-TR: but yeah, if you wanna know more about purism:
19:52 leah; search old phoronix posts about them
19:53 leah; also look at reddit user gulguls. who has a lot more balls than i did back then (and back then, i actually had balls)
19:53 schestowitz-TR; got back w. cuppa
19:54 leah; schestowitz-TR: the funniest part was when their 2nd crowd funding campaign (librem13 one) failed, and todd was like several days before the end, and wasn't going to get his money
19:54 leah; out of nowhere, 90k USD added to it
19:54 leah; by todd himself
19:54 schestowitz-TR; ah
19:54 leah; he donated to his own crowd funding campaign to get it over the edge
19:54 schestowitz-TR; miracle
19:54 leah; i doubt he'll face justice
19:54 schestowitz-TR; faked popularity
19:54 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ppnzd78r6xqv6.irc) has joined #techrights
19:54 schestowitz-TR; paris hiltoon sales
19:55 leah; he's a genius at marketing and no court would ever put him in jail. he makes too much money for the US economy
19:55 leah; rich people get to walk free
19:55 leah; he was rich before doing purism
19:55 schestowitz-TR; lying is not acrim
19:55 leah; he came along and saw my success and wanted in on it
19:55 schestowitz-TR; a crime
19:55 schestowitz-TR; perjury is
19:55 leah; to him, libreboot is a buzzword
19:55 schestowitz-TR; makessence
19:56 leah; https://puri.sm/learn/freedom-roadmap/
19:56 TR Bot; The Purism Freedom Roadmap Purism
19:56 schestowitz-TR; sense
19:56 leah; just to be clear: he is not working on libreboot, and never has. and never will
19:56 leah; but that page suggests otherwise
19:56 *schestowitz-TR types one handed
19:56 leah; just to be clear: this is the only reason i hate him and want him to get fucked
19:56 schestowitz-TR; so if i buy from him
19:56 schestowitz-TR; then i support leah
19:56 leah; if he didn't rope me into it and didn't literally cause people to ask me every day about purism and whether libreboot will support it.
19:57 leah; if he didn't literally make people think he is like me, and drag me through the dirt
19:57 leah; i wouldn't care
19:57 leah; there are lots of companies selling shit to people, and they eat it up
19:57 leah; apple does it brilliantly
19:57 schestowitz-TR; back to two hands
19:57 leah; but apple doesn't smear my name
19:57 leah; i would say that apple is ethically superior to purism
19:57 schestowitz-TR; leah: see the above two articles about purism
19:57 leah; and you can quote me on that lol
19:57 schestowitz-TR; he has a habit of pissing people off
19:58 leah; oh i'm beyond pissed off
19:58 leah; todd weaver is my white whale
19:58 leah; :P
19:58 schestowitz-TR; coffee finished, caught up with scrollback
19:58 leah; fuck todd weaver
19:58 leah; and fuck purism
19:58 schestowitz-TR; so yeah, that confirms what people said to me
19:58 leah; oh?
19:58 schestowitz-TR; when librem was fialing he started sociall control media
19:59 leah; todd is smart though
19:59 schestowitz-TR; they keep juggling between ways to by time and keep money coming
19:59 DaemonFC; I'm back to coughing a bit.
19:59 leah; you'll never bring him down
19:59 schestowitz-TR; using words like "purist", "libre" etc.
19:59 schestowitz-TR; to get premium backs
19:59 DaemonFC; I really hope that thing isn't coming back around.
19:59 leah; technically, pureos is actually ok btw. it actually is a totally free operating system
19:59 schestowitz-TR; the apple thing, except with freedom instead of perceived prestige
19:59 leah; can't say the same about pureboot, but pureos is
19:59 leah; well
19:59 leah; pureos is basically debian
19:59 schestowitz-TR; people pay a ton of money for the elitism or idea they support freedom
19:59 leah; just rebranded
19:59 leah; there are a million distros like that
19:59 leah; pureos is no different
20:00 leah; but out of principle, i would never install pureos
20:00 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/rham7y/thanks_i_hate_capitalism/
20:00 leah; and when asked to by minifree customers, i refuse. and i say why
20:00 TR Bot; Thanks I hate capitalism : TIHI
20:00 schestowitz-TR; thanls for the warning
20:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Hospital itemizes holding baby as a $39.99 upcharge as part of a C-section.
20:00 leah; i've actually lost a customer or two because of that
20:00 leah; and that's fine
20:00 schestowitz-TR; sorry for typos, had to drink a hot beverage... too cold here and we challenge ourselves never to turn on the heating
20:00 leah; fuck purism
20:01 leah; i aint touching that shit
20:01 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, that became infamous
20:01 leah; schestowitz-TR: but yeah, feel free to use what i've written in this channel
20:01 leah; as a basis for an article
20:01 leah; don't name me though
20:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe they should carge 59.95 for taking a photo (by the midwife)
20:01 schestowitz-TR; extra $10 charge to have it posted in Facebook
20:02 leah; and scrub my name in today's irc log please. todd knows i hate him, and i've told all this to his face once
20:02 leah; but if a drama does start, i don't want to be dragged down by the media that's all
20:02 leah; most people are idiots and will just accept what they're told without fact checking. that's why purism always wins
20:02 schestowitz-TR; are they profitable?
20:02 schestowitz-TR; I doubt they are
20:02 leah; "tech news" sites just want clicks so they'll do stuff about him
20:02 leah; i doubt purism is profitable, no
20:02 schestowitz-TR; many they roped in some misguided VCs
20:03 MinceR; (cat) https://de.catbox.moe/g9wuh4.jpg
20:03 TR Bot; connect to de.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://de.catbox.moe/g9wuh4.jpg )
20:03 leah; otherwise they would have cashed out years ago
20:03 leah; they spend a lot of money probably
20:03 schestowitz-TR; they can used a paid-for fsf endorsement to get media coverage and investors
20:03 schestowitz-TR; who invest in something with no return prospects
20:03 leah; yeah well
20:03 leah; i don't trust the fsf
20:03 leah; ever since i saw john's talk in 2017 lol
20:04 leah; and fsf giving purism a booth at libreplanet 2019 just was the last nail in the coffin
20:04 MinceR; pureos is a systemd distro
20:04 leah; i cut ties with fsf then and there
20:04 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/rhr3fe/willing_to_cross_a_picket_line/
20:04 MinceR; not what i'd call free or even pure :>
20:04 TR Bot; "Willing to cross a picket line" : LateStageCapitalism
20:04 DaemonFC; Kroger hiring scabs.
20:04 leah; coincidentally, they don't promote me anymore
20:04 leah; i wonder why
20:04 leah; lol
20:05 schestowitz-TR; i still link to them sometimes
20:05 leah; in a way i'm happy about that. means i can say what i really think. and osboot now exists because of that. i no longer felt the need to hide my true ideology, so i started osboot.org
20:05 schestowitz-TR; but now I know some more facts
20:05 leah; but
20:05 schestowitz-TR; they now work with qubes
20:05 leah; libreboot is still developed, actively, for opsec. but my heart is in osboot
20:05 schestowitz-TR; qubes was always a tad dodgy to me
20:05 XRevan86; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://znak.com/2021-12-16/uchastnicu_pussy_riot_alehinu_zaderzhali_za_lukashenko_so_svastikoy
20:05 TR Bot; Pussy Riot
20:05 XRevan86; Very Russian news.
20:05 schestowitz-TR; they use snowden to market themselves
20:05 schestowitz-TR; but afaik it's just fedora with many vms
20:05 XRevan86; > Pussy Riot participant Alekhina detained for "Lukashenko with a swastika"
20:06 schestowitz-TR; too much for putn?
20:06 leah; (osboot is superior because it brings in more people to the wider coreboot community, and will result in the future in more coreboot devs as a result, because some of those users become inspired. libreboot is a much smaller net, and what i regard as the "end goal" but previously no in-between existed. osboot is that inbetween, and will lead to more progress in libreboot in the
20:06 leah; future. that's why i'm doing it)
20:06 schestowitz-TR; cool!
20:06 schestowitz-TR; anyway, you do great work
20:07 schestowitz-TR; some techrights readers and writers mention you
20:07 XRevan86; schestowitz: Propaganda of Nazism, just like Monty Python
20:07 schestowitz-TR; and admire the work
20:07 schestowitz-TR; so keep at it
20:07 leah; schestowitz-TR: there's that word:
20:07 leah; work
20:07 MinceR; XRevan86: and wolfenstein 3d?
20:07 schestowitz-TR; one of them wanted to do an interview with you
20:07 schestowitz-TR; (ages ago)
20:07 XRevan86; MinceR: yea
20:07 leah; todd weaver is 100 percent talk
20:07 MinceR; :>
20:07 leah; i do the real work
20:07 leah; so do all the coreboot devs
20:07 leah; linux kernel hackers
20:07 leah; gnu maintainers
20:07 schestowitz-TR; so todd is a jim zemlin
20:07 leah; mesa project
20:08 leah; distro projects
20:08 leah; the million free software projects out there that we haven't even heard about yet
20:08 leah; we're all in this
20:08 schestowitz-TR; gnash
20:08 leah; gnash sucks
20:08 schestowitz-TR; well, obsolete now
20:08 leah; so does flash
20:08 schestowitz-TR; the www has become flash
20:08 schestowitz-TR; electron etc.
20:09 leah; btw
20:09 schestowitz-TR; the www is worthless
20:09 leah; what do you think of the new dark theme on untitled.vimuser.org
20:09 leah; (and vimuser.org)
20:09 schestowitz-TR; didn't see it
20:09 leah; take a look! i made vimuser.org sexy
20:09 schestowitz; that site looks like gemini
20:10 schestowitz; except over http with html
20:10 leah; now there's a site that pops. 100% markdown
20:10 leah; html generated by pandoc
20:10 XRevan86; leah: A very LOR Tango kind of look, except pink-ish and not blue-ish.
20:10 leah; yeah pink+grey is sexy
20:10 leah; or red and black
20:10 schestowitz; clickable: https://vimuser.org/
20:10 TR Bot; LeahRowe'sSleeplessRants Free Federation, Free Society!
20:11 leah; i deleted the unprofessional articles on vimuser.org
20:11 leah; i'm expecting to launch the federation next year
20:11 leah; and i expect more people will see vimuser.org at that point. so i purged some stuff
20:11 leah; especially *that* article
20:11 SomeH4x0r; sad
20:11 leah; ?
20:12 SomeH4x0r; I'd prefer keeping everything as-is, and opt-out being known
20:12 leah; i mean it was mostly just badly drawn anime
20:12 leah; manga*
20:12 SomeH4x0r; my webpage is just contact data and nothing else
20:12 leah; schestowitz: i have a new project planned btw
20:12 SomeH4x0r; (and some files linked from elsewhere)
20:12 leah; bootloader project
20:13 schestowitz-TR; oh
20:13 schestowitz-TR; from cratch?
20:13 schestowitz-TR; from scratch?
20:13 leah; * 2016's version of Libreboot has GRUB patches adding LUKS detached
20:13 leah; header and keyfile support. It's a nice feature, but not essential (it
20:13 leah; also support for another mode in dm-crypt that most people don't use)
20:13 leah; * GNU's official GRUB version doesn't have those patches. And those
20:13 leah; patches only touch LUKS1. I want to adapt those patches for LUKS2, and
20:13 leah; re-merg them in Libreboot and osboot's version of GRUB. Those patches
20:13 leah; no longer apply cleanly to GNU's own code, since they re-factored it a
20:13 leah; lot when they added LUKSv2 support
20:13 leah; * I want to re-write GRUB's entire build system, and make it more
20:13 leah; modular, but re-use GRUB's kernel, libs, drivers etc. I want to make it
20:13 leah; configurable via ncurses based interface and Kconfig files, like when
20:13 leah; you build a Linux kernel and can add/remove modules. And I want to
20:13 leah; remove legacy/unused/unmaintained/crap code from the GRUB codebase
20:13 leah; * Basically, I want to start a new bootloader project of my own, a
20:14 leah; complete fork of GNU GRUB. I call it: Completely Reconfigurable Unified
20:14 leah; Multiboot2 Bootloader (crumb), as a play on the name "grub"
20:14 leah; (i pasted this from an email i wrote earlier. it lays out my plans)
20:14 schestowitz-TR; you either type incrtedibly fast
20:14 leah; i plan to start it later this month or in the new year. i've got company stuff to deal with in the meantime
20:14 schestowitz-TR; or you had that in vim
20:14 leah; pasted from an email
20:15 *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights
20:17 leah; schestowitz-TR: don't target johns btw. he's not evil, just lame. that stuff about librem and freenode.live 2017 is just random bullshit
20:17 leah; he was probably just still pissed with me about my 2016 stunt. wounds take a long time to heal, and sometimes never do
20:17 leah; plus, attacking johns on techrights would hurt the fsf
20:18 leah; and the fsf, despite their obvious corruption (taking bribes from purism), is still a useful organisation
20:18 leah; e.g. they maintain infrastructure for gnu.org
20:18 leah; it's gnu.org that i value
20:18 leah; fsf is meh. but gnu is actually good. always has been, and always will be
20:19 leah; plus john's influence will die after a period of time. he's almost gone now. i have sources on the inside that tell me he's basically finished. he does almost nothing
20:20 leah; greg farough and zoey kooman are doing all the work at the fsf right now
20:20 leah; holding things together
20:20 leah; along with the sysadmin staff
20:20 leah; plus craigt is solid
20:20 leah; i think the fsf will go on, and be ok. the "better days" of the last decade was just all marketing fluff. e.g. inviting people ideologically opposed to fsf to libreplanet
20:20 cow_20012; woah
20:20 leah; but gnu continues to be useful
20:21 leah; at the very least, we should not attack the fsf
20:21 schestowitz-TR; ok, let me put it like this
20:21 leah; despite their flaws, especially exposed during 2021, i'll still lend aid to the fsf if asked. and to gnu
20:22 *schestowitz-TR have just posted some stuff in tuxmachines
20:22 schestowitz-TR; the above is logged
20:22 schestowitz-TR; I don't need to do an article about it
20:22 schestowitz-TR; it would require verifying
20:22 schestowitz-TR; not sure who with
20:22 schestowitz-TR; and it would just poison everything
20:22 schestowitz-TR; purism is not evil
20:22 schestowitz-TR; it's a lesser evil
20:22 schestowitz-TR; todd is not librem
20:22 schestowitz-TR; librem is a bunch of people
20:22 schestowitz-TR; some of them are very good
20:22 schestowitz-TR; and have history
20:22 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/rhrui1/mortgage_company_overpaid_property_taxes_and_is/
20:22 TR Bot; Mortgage company overpaid property taxes and is now raising my escrow withholding amount until the deficit is covered. : personalfinance
20:23 schestowitz-TR; but what I heard of todd was usually not positive
20:23 activelow; gnu.org itself in the headline advertises for FSF membership; for gnu and fsf had been the same, simply speaking
20:23 leah; hm
20:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe they will leave and start their own thing
20:23 DaemonFC; "I live in a small suburban city that has separate taxes from the county. The city is owed approximately $630. The county is owed approximately $5,600. This has all been paid. But, the mortgage company also sent a $5,600 check to the city. The city says that it sent the check back about 4 weeks ago because it was an overpayment. The bank says they never got the returned check.
20:23 DaemonFC; In the meantime, my mortgage is going up $415 a month to cover the difference."
20:23 DaemonFC; Banks.....Gotta love them. "Home ownership"
20:23 leah; roy i don't see anything on tuxmachines
20:23 schestowitz-TR; activelow: it's project + advocacy
20:23 leah; schestowitz-TR*
20:23 schestowitz-TR; gnu and fsf are a pair
20:23 schestowitz-TR; gnu predates it
20:23 DaemonFC; Then if the extra $450 a month they are illegally charging him on the mortgage causes him to fall behind, they'll foreclose on the house and sue.
20:24 leah; can you link it to me?
20:24 schestowitz-TR; the fsf was made to support gnu afaik
20:24 TR News; #LatteDock v0.10.5 | Bug Fix Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:24 TR Bot; Latte Dock v0.10.5 | Bug Fix Release | Tux Machines
20:24 TR News; Linux 5.15.9, 5.10.86, and 5.4.166 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159199 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:24 TR Bot; Linux 5.15.9, 5.10.86, and 5.4.166 | Tux Machines
20:24 leah; schestowitz-TR: can you link me what you posted on tuxmachines
20:24 schestowitz-TR; leah: a 'news hub' for free software news
20:25 schestowitz-TR; I think it terms of traffic we're 'market leaders' in that space
20:25 schestowitz-TR; (not that it matters)
20:25 leah; i know what tuxmachines is. link me what you wrote on there. you said you posted something, and i guess something to do with this discussion
20:25 schestowitz-TR; no, I added some latest news
20:25 schestowitz-TR; hours old
20:25 DaemonFC; https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/15/apple-nixes-csam-references-website/
20:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/15/apple-nixes-csam-references-website/
20:25 TR Bot; Removes All References to Controversial CSAM Scanning Feature From Its Child Safety Webpage [Updated] - MacRumors
20:25 leah; ok
20:25 schestowitz-TR; I multitask a lot
20:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
20:25 leah; schestowitz-TR: purism is shit
20:26 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: ?
20:26 cow_20012; if gnu is ever going to be forked, how would they name it? GNG's Not GNU?
20:26 leah; and needs to just disappear
20:26 cow_20012; what's a gng?
20:26 leah; it's like a png, but with more g
20:26 schestowitz-TR; that styole xmas
20:26 DaemonFC; "Apple spokesperson Shane Bauer told The Verge that though the CSAM detection feature is no longer mentioned on its website, plans for CSAM detection have not changed since September, which means CSAM detection is still coming in the future."
20:26 leah; png is not gif lol
20:26 cow_20012; leah: hah!
20:26 activelow; i don't know, GNU/FSF #1 project, which is gcc... see for yourself; of cause, it's opensource, it's GPL, nonetheless... what is it nowadays? some corporate playground to push proprietary extension support into.
20:26 activelow; $ man gcc ... see for yourself
20:26 leah; that's what png stands for
20:26 leah; png is not gif
20:27 leah; it's a recursive acronym
20:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Apple deleted all references to it and will just slip it in later, quietly.
20:27 leah; some people actually call it "ping" verbally
20:27 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: sounds predictable
20:27 leah; schestowitz-TR: purism is not the lesser evil
20:27 leah; it's just shit
20:28 leah; system76 is the lesser evil by that logic
20:28 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: maybe write about it
20:28 schestowitz-TR; I have some very busy night ahead
20:28 leah; they ship coreboot on some machines, and with gnu+linux
20:28 schestowitz-TR; also by birthday in 3 hours
20:28 schestowitz-TR; *my
20:28 leah; system76 appeared on louis rossman's channel, talkinga bout right to repair
20:28 schestowitz-TR; they pay "vloggers"
20:28 schestowitz-TR; "ifnluecers"
20:28 leah; system76 is the real deal. i wouldn't personally buy their current hardware, but they seem to have their head in the right place
20:28 activelow; in case of gcc, the firmware blobs are the proprietary vendor extensions added, something which fsf/gnu opposed, until egcs was renamed into gcc
20:28 schestowitz-TR; many of the "Linux" OEMs buy off "vloggers"
20:28 leah; in fact
20:29 schestowitz-TR; librem wanted to send me a laptop
20:29 activelow; and since then, #1 project of GNU/FSF is sailing under false flag, 1999, 20years already
20:29 schestowitz-TR; purism I mean
20:29 DaemonFC; Oh. Happy birthday! Are you doing anything for it?
20:29 leah; librem tried to send you a purism
20:29 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: lockdowns
20:29 DaemonFC; Oh, good old Boris.
20:29 schestowitz-TR; rianne prepared some surprises
20:29 leah; schestowitz-TR: even purism's logo is half assed
20:29 leah; it's a rectangle
20:29 leah; literally just a rectangle
20:30 schestowitz-TR; there's aome room I'm not allowed to enter yet ;) things inside it
20:30 cow_20012; what's bad about purism?
20:30 leah; read the backlog cow_20012
20:30 DaemonFC; This bronchitis has been much worse than COVID.
20:30 leah; or read the logs on techrighs.org later
20:30 DaemonFC; Illinois going into emergency #23.
20:30 schestowitz-TR; leah: yes, the logo is very generic
20:30 schestowitz-TR; so generic that I can copy it
20:30 leah; todd weaver is generic
20:30 schestowitz-TR; and they can make no legal claim
20:30 schestowitz-TR; pooism
20:30 leah; a thoroughly generic, boring sales guy
20:30 schestowitz-TR; in a square
20:31 leah; who encroached on my space, and lied about me
20:31 activelow; and almost all of it depends on it... GCC, a monstrous corporate playground to push proprietary vendor extensions into
20:31 schestowitz-TR; activelow: not morew so
20:31 schestowitz-TR; because of CLA changes
20:31 schestowitz-TR; *now more
20:31 schestowitz-TR; so gcc will be jkust marked with companies' (C) notices
20:32 schestowitz-TR; not FSF but Intel, NVIDIA, who knows what else...
20:32 schestowitz-TR; the licence stays
20:32 schestowitz-TR; and the G
20:32 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/state-reaches-deal-to-sell-thompson-center-for-70m-pritzker-says/
20:32 TR Bot; State reaches deal to sell Thompson Center for $70M, Pritzker says | WGN-TV
20:33 DaemonFC; I'm not going to call it anything else.
20:33 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicismommylooking1.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/2225/ )
20:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicismommylooking1.png
20:33 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
20:33 DaemonFC; Though the state's ownership of this building has been an expensive disaster.
20:33 cow_20012; oh boy. i've bought a librem 14 <_<
20:34 DaemonFC; They've been spending nearly 40 years spending just barely enough to keep it running.
20:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe they can house the homeless in it
20:34 schestowitz-TR; like in that hotal...
20:34 schestowitz-TR; *hotel
20:34 schestowitz-TR; forgot which one it was
20:35 schestowitz-TR; in Washington IIRC
20:36 activelow; gcc-4.7.4, this is what i'll keep, and not any later anymore... working on it, almost there.
20:36 activelow; then next, with all c++ removed, i'll try PCC (which required a downgrade to ARM32bit because it doesn't support aarch64)
20:36 cow_20012; next one will be a system76, then?
20:37 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> maybe they can house the homeless in it
20:37 DaemonFC; That too has happened. Not officially.
20:37 DaemonFC; That's why the building is infested with bedbugs that they can't get rid of.
20:37 activelow; the only free/open intel design was i8080 (8086?)... any later is closed source to my knowledge
20:38 activelow; anyone being honest about it, couldn't argue any later was free/opensource, just because some compiler with proprietary extension support existed
20:38 DaemonFC; MinceR, Ever since I saw Austin Powers in the 90s and someone mentions something unaware that it's already the case....
20:38 DaemonFC; I clear my throat and say "That too has happened.".
20:39 DaemonFC; Like Dr. Evil threatening to put a hole in the Ozone layer unless the world paid a ransom.
20:39 MinceR; :>
20:40 activelow; although, libreboot/coreboot are highly relevant, these projects are distracting somehow, with false promises; there's almost nothing free with what's supported
20:40 DaemonFC; MinceR, When your parents put you to bed and said "Night night, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite.".
20:41 DaemonFC; I never realized that there actually were bedbugs.
20:41 MinceR; :>
20:41 DaemonFC; I thought they were just something silly that parents make up.
20:41 MinceR; as in, they existed, or they were in your bed?
20:41 DaemonFC; That they exist.
20:41 MinceR; ic
20:41 DaemonFC; You know that's what happens when you bullshit your kids all the time.
20:41 DaemonFC; Santa Clause. Church....
20:41 DaemonFC; "Bedbugs?" I mean, fuck, come on...right?
20:42 DaemonFC; *Claus
20:42 DaemonFC; Too convenient that there's actually something out there called a bedbug.
20:42 TR News; "While Log4j has now been patched the problem is by no means over and this vulnerability is going to be with us going years into the future until every company patches or replaces their software." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=upjSLLd7qZc
20:42 TR Bot; Log4J Vulnerability Isn't Going Anywhere Soon - Invidious
20:42 leah; anyway, fuck todd weaver
20:43 DaemonFC; The landlord was setting off a bug bomb a few months ago after some really nasty fucking people moved out of the next apartment over.
20:43 leah; just had to say that one more time
20:43 DaemonFC; The bomb was getting into my apartment through the bathroom vent, so I sealed it off with tape.
20:43 *leah ordered kfc take-out
20:43 DaemonFC; I could occasionally smell the cheap cigars they were smoking over there.
20:43 DaemonFC; So I was like "Well, I'd rather not have a vent than keep getting gassed with something.
20:44 DaemonFC; Speaking of being gassed by a bunch of Germans.....The state is getting its VW settlement money soon.
20:44 DaemonFC; Plans to spend it on Metra.
20:45 DaemonFC; No offense to activelow.
20:45 leah; activelow: and i hate to say it, but gcc is going to be obsolete anyway in the future. everyone is moving over to llvm
20:46 DaemonFC; By everyone, you do of course mean BloatZilla FailFox.
20:46 leah; DaemonFC: the best scene is when dr evil asks for 1 million dollars. and is told that due to inflation, 1 million dollars is now chump change
20:46 DaemonFC; For those days when 4 GB of linker memory just isn't enough.
20:46 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159200 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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20:47 DaemonFC; <leah> DaemonFC: the best scene is when dr evil asks for 1 million dollars. and is told that due to inflation, 1 million dollars is now chump change
20:47 DaemonFC; Give Biden a few years and as will be $100 billion dollars.
20:47 DaemonFC; :)
20:47 *leah imagines a bathtub full of cash to buy cheese
20:47 DaemonFC; When you go into Walmart and a hundred bucks worth of groceries is a pound of bacon.
20:48 leah; biden and his democrats aren't doing too well right now
20:48 leah; they are actively trying to lose the next election
20:48 DaemonFC; Yeah, even the Democrats polled about inflation are pretty pissed.
20:48 leah; >promises to end tuition fees. then later says they will continue
20:48 leah; >promises to deal with covid. won't give people free test kits
20:48 leah; the list goes on
20:48 DaemonFC; They may not be shouting Let's Go Brandon yet, but they're thinking it when they go to the grocery store.
20:48 DaemonFC; Believe you me.
20:48 leah; i think trump will run, and win, in 2024
20:49 DaemonFC; I doubt he'll win.
20:49 leah; the vote share in 2021 was the same as 2016
20:49 leah; he lost the electoral college by a knife edge
20:50 leah; s/2021/2020
20:50 DaemonFC; Biden's plan is to buy off the poor people with more welfare so they aren't mad about inflation.
20:50 leah; look at the numbers and compare
20:50 leah; the vote share was roughly identical
20:50 leah; more people voting sure
20:50 leah; but the shares were almost identical
20:50 DaemonFC; He doesn't have to do anything on student loans until he reads the polls going into the election.
20:50 leah; but due to EC, it turned around the other way this time
20:50 DaemonFC; If he has to, he can always forgive however much he wants and send out the letters then.
20:50 leah; but that's due to high turnout
20:50 leah; biden's administration will keep fucking up
20:51 leah; and next time, people will stay at home. trump will win
20:51 activelow; leah: i am hoping for i will succeed with replacing gcc, NOT with another such beast as LLVM, instead with PCC as the only system compiler, long-term
20:51 DaemonFC; There's still plenty of criminal charges to hit him with.
20:52 DaemonFC; Take out the threat by putting him in prison.
20:52 leah; activelow: but C isn't the only language
20:52 leah; gcc and llvm's strengths are support for multiple languages. and architectures
20:52 leah; pcc only handles c right?
20:52 activelow; yes
20:53 activelow; i am thinking about fortran too, as natively compiled language; and the rest is interpreters (perl and python, shell)
20:54 activelow; i'll not miss most of the rest
20:54 TR News; "Activist and co-founder of youtube channel Ubuntu , Eyasped Tesfaye was arrested by police at his parents house" https://addisstandard.com/news-activist-co-founder-of-online-media-ubuntu-eyasped-tesfaye-arrested-at-his-family-house/
20:54 TR Bot; News: Activist, co-founder of online media Ubuntu, Eyasped Tesfaye arrested at his family house - Addis Standard
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20:54 activelow; anyway, sorry for interrupting, enough said
20:55 TR News; #Kernel: Resizable BAR, DRM/DRM-Next, and AMD Accelerator Clown Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159202 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
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20:55 schestowitz; leah: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fall-bulletin-package-management-e-books-agpl-and-more
20:55 TR Bot; Fall Bulletin: package management, e-books, AGPL, and more Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
20:56 schestowitz; "by Zoe Kooyman Published on Dec 09,"
20:56 schestowitz; now that you mention it
20:56 schestowitz; FSF has bumped that up today
20:56 schestowitz; no idea how
20:58 leah; meh
20:59 leah; https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/rh2ap2/technoethical_paid_for_laptop_11_weeks_ago_still/
20:59 TR Bot; technoethical paid for laptop 11 weeks ago, still waiting : libreboot
20:59 leah; fsf still promotes that garbage company. and they endorse purism by promoting pureos
21:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, they adverised backlog
21:00 leah; and they talk about libreboot, but never mention me by name, not ever. they don't have the courage to speak my name
21:00 schestowitz-TR; like 100 days
21:00 schestowitz-TR; then blame "Supply chain"
21:00 schestowitz-TR; who pays to get something in 3 months?
21:00 schestowitz-TR; makes no sense
21:00 schestowitz-TR; they might even file for bankruptcy before you get it
21:00 schestowitz-TR; so no refunds
21:01 schestowitz-TR; like the time FSF gave awards to Microsoft de Icaza
21:01 leah; i'm working on libreboot and osboot, and doing real work, and have fixed many bugs this year, made many improvements
21:01 leah; while running a company
21:01 schestowitz-TR; or to Matthew Gulag
21:02 leah; these people would be nothing without the hard work done by people like myself
21:02 schestowitz-TR; maybe the fsf donation [sic] came with strings ^_^
21:02 schestowitz-TR; help libreboot, get nothing
21:02 schestowitz-TR; help Microsoft-controls-your-boot-permissions, get FSF award
21:02 schestowitz-TR; PLUS
21:02 schestowitz-TR; Red Hat salary
21:03 schestowitz-TR; as I noted before,
21:03 schestowitz-TR; FSF was paid by Red Hat and Intel that year
21:03 schestowitz-TR; those are not donations
21:03 schestowitz-TR; they come with expectations
21:03 schestowitz-TR; they're more like investments
21:05 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> they might even file for bankruptcy before you get it
21:05 DaemonFC; LOL
21:06 DaemonFC; Anyway, there's no chance of Trump coming back before Mandy's green card is final.
21:07 DaemonFC; So whatever decisions he makes at USCIS by that point will be irrelevant.
21:08 DaemonFC; The Republicans definitely don't have the votes to change immigration law all by themselves even if Trump comes back and they are the majority in the Senate. 60 votes to do that, and I think the maximum the Republicans can get right now would be 55 seats if they bowled a perfect game.
21:09 DaemonFC; Nobody is going to give them an immigration reform bill, and they'd still need all their members and five Democrats to pass it if they wrote one.
21:09 DaemonFC; They couldn't even agree to repeal the ACA with 54 Senate seats.
21:10 DaemonFC; The tax law removed the most unpopular part. The "Oh, you can't afford insurance and get no subsidies? Well, you have to pay a fine to the IRS now!" provision. Obama didn't even want that.
21:11 DaemonFC; I think that with the way most people think, if it's not a clearly immediate problem for them, they psychologically discount it.
21:11 DaemonFC; So even though the ACA is hurting them in other ways, the IRS fine is gone and that was the most "In your face." thing the law does in a negative way.
21:12 DaemonFC; That's why it's so much easier to undermine someone than to come at them with both barrels. As long as they see you as more of an annoyance than an active threat, they'll ignore you.
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21:23 leah; schestowitz-TR: btw
21:23 leah; i have some interesting irc logs
21:23 leah; but i'm wondering whether i should share them
21:23 leah; it pertains to the technoethical thing
21:24 leah; fsf has known for some time, like, at least the last few months, if not the whole year, that technoethical is fraudulent, doesn't ship orders, etc
21:24 schestowitz-TR; wht is that?
21:24 leah; and consider that for a moment: their giving guide, released like what, a week ago?
21:24 leah; it lists technoethical
21:25 leah; but it's not useful for me to share them. it would only promote technoethical
21:25 leah; i sense that the fsf will de-list them soon
21:25 schestowitz-TR; fs should endorse iself
21:25 leah; i also sense that their ryf program is going to be culled at some point
21:25 schestowitz-TR; and that is it
21:25 leah; oh?
21:25 leah; yeah well
21:25 schestowitz-TR; it does not conctrol others
21:25 leah; technoethical has been scamming customers for years
21:26 leah; *years*
21:26 leah; there are forum posts, reddit posts
21:26 schestowitz-TR; thyey are risky
21:26 leah; one every few months. for years
21:26 schestowitz-TR; like photo ops
21:26 leah; and fsf has known about it
21:26 leah; but when i asked, i was told:
21:26 leah; "we are looking into it"
21:26 leah; "due diligence" was the term they used, to describe that
21:27 leah; 3 years later, technoethical is still endorsed
21:27 leah; but it's bankrupt
21:27 schestowitz-TR; wow
21:27 schestowitz-TR; url?
21:27 leah; fuck it, i'll link it
21:27 leah; hang on
21:27 leah; a lot of it is on reddit and trisquel forums
21:27 leah; i want to see if the fsf will do the right thing first
21:28 leah; if they don't though, i want the word out that tiberiu of technoethical is a lying fuck
21:28 leah; https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-bankrupt
21:28 leah; from 2018
21:28 TR Bot; Technoethical bankrupt? | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!
21:29 leah; and since then, report after report on trisquel forums and reddit (mostly r/libreboot) kept coming in, from people saying they wait months for orders, and never receive
21:29 schestowitz-TR; not only them
21:29 leah; i ran into some difficulties myself but refunded people or later shipped. and only once
21:29 schestowitz-TR; iirc, purism also
21:29 leah; but technoethical is intentionally doing it
21:29 leah; they are committing fraud with intent
21:30 leah; and fsf has known for years
21:30 leah; i have an irc log of PMs with craigt, their current licensing and compliance officer
21:30 leah; i myself was trying to get re-endorsed after being de-listed during 2020
21:30 leah; and craigt let it slip
21:32 leah; fuck it
21:32 leah; fsf can burn
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:51:58 leah the current state of RYF
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:52:04 leah what state is that?
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:00 leah i actually proposed to the fsf a few years ago a few ways to strengthen it. i guess you mean it's stagnating
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:19 craigt It is not thriving. 3 vendors MIA, not certifying enough new devices.
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:25 leah MIA?
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:29 craigt missing in action
21:32 *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed)
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:34 leah which vendors?
21:32 TR News; Linux Mint 20.3 Beta is Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159098#comment-32149
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21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:53:44 leah you mean libiquity, technoethical and vikings?
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:54:07 craigt I would have rather not revealed that, but yes.
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:55:23 craigt I am just being honest.
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:55:32 leah https://mas.to/@libreleah/107180899155444854
21:32 TR Bot; not resolve host: mas.to; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://mas.to/@libreleah/107180899155444854 )
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:55:36 leah i'm not missing in action :)
21:32 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ppnzd78r6xqv6.irc) has joined #techrights
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:55:43 leah i did 10 of these today
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:55:58 leah 16MB SPI flashes for KGPE-D16 libreboot
21:32 leah; 2021-10-28 20:56:15 leah for a client
21:32 leah; i can share the *full* logs if you like
21:33 schestowitz-TR; maybe later
21:33 schestowitz-TR; so short story is, fsf needs to change the site
21:33 schestowitz-TR; i wonder if librem got them to sign something
21:33 schestowitz-TR; which was tied to the money given
21:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.34
21:33 schestowitz; https://www.fsf.org/patrons
21:34 TR Bot; Current patrons Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
21:34 schestowitz; Purism still there
21:34 schestowitz; FSF won't deplore them
21:34 schestowitz; "The FSF does not endorse the activities of its patrons, but sincerely appreciates all their support."
21:34 schestowitz; Maybe this was added due to some incidents
21:34 schestowitz; and queries
21:35 schestowitz-TR; anyway, taking money from companies is never a good idea
21:35 schestowitz-TR; it makes incapable of criticising some parties
21:37 TR News; #Mozilla Localization (L10N): L10n Report: December 2021 Edition https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2021/12/16/l10n-report-december-2021-edition/ #firefox
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21:37 TR Bot; L10n Report: December 2021 Edition | Mozilla L10N
21:38 leah; >goes to order 6 piece bucket of kfc
21:38 leah; >accidentally orders 10 piece
21:38 schestowitz-TR; to door?
21:38 leah; yeah
21:38 schestowitz-TR; I don't get it
21:38 schestowitz-TR; so wasteful
21:38 schestowitz-TR; a vehicle for one meal
21:39 leah; i do. i want chicken
21:39 schestowitz-TR; waiter I'm also no comfortable with
21:39 schestowitz-TR; a whole driver for a meal seems over the top
21:39 leah; i don't have a car
21:39 schestowitz-TR; no shops near you?
21:39 MinceR; i doubt that half a driver could drive safely
21:39 leah; and kfc has a delivery service
21:39 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: maybe one driver, two meals
21:40 leah; im not freezing to go out and get chicken
21:40 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: i don't think leah is that hungry
21:40 leah; i will share the rest of the irc logs with you when i'm finished battling with this ridiculous amount of chicken
21:40 leah; i'm sharing with my roommate
21:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe they will genetically engineer roosters with hweels
21:40 schestowitz-TR; *Wheels
21:41 MinceR; what could possibly go wrong?
21:41 leah; schestowitz-TR: my motivation isn't revenge btw
21:41 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: wrong address
21:41 leah; schestowitz-TR: fsf decided to abandon me, but that's fine. i've thrived without their help, for over a year
21:41 leah; schestowitz-TR: but technoethical is scamming people, and have done for years
21:41 leah; and the fsf is too cowardly to de-list them
21:41 leah; they knew about it
21:41 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: Evil Dead Chickens on Wheels
21:41 leah; and still promoted technoethical in this year's giving guide
21:42 schestowitz-TR; with rifles
21:42 leah; so i'm interested only in the common good
21:42 leah; i want technoethical deleted from the internet
21:42 *leah will eat chicken first
21:42 leah; fun fact: i used to be vegan. for a whole year
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21:44 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797814.jpg
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21:44 schestowitz-TR; leah: fsf campaign manager still is
21:44 schestowitz-TR; greg
21:45 leah; yeah. it's a requirement
21:45 leah; everyone at fsf is vegan. they won't hire you otherwise
21:45 leah; that's almost not even a joke lol
21:45 schestowitz-TR; really?
21:45 schestowitz-TR; but rms eats some meat
21:45 schestowitz-TR; he even said so recrntly
21:45 leah; >almost
21:46 schestowitz-TR; btw
21:46 schestowitz-TR; we published some piece about "tech vegan"
21:46 schestowitz-TR; another one coming soon
21:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe next week
21:46 TR News; #firstworldProblems https://hackaday.com/2021/12/16/motorized-device-helps-swap-out-hard-to-reach-light-bulbs/
21:46 TR Bot; Device Helps Swap Out Hard-To-Reach Light Bulbs | Hackaday
21:47 schestowitz-TR; leah: veganism is too hard
21:47 schestowitz-TR; aiming very high
21:48 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/rhjlrh/two_wrongs_dont_make_a_right/
21:48 TR Bot; Two Wrongs Dont Make A Right : trashy
21:49 DaemonFC; I haven't met a vegan who looked like they were okay in the head.
21:50 schestowitz-TR; what about vegetarians
21:50 DaemonFC; The world is a pretty violent and fucked up place.
21:50 schestowitz-TR; ?
21:51 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> what about vegetarians
21:51 schestowitz-TR; too many foods have milk and eggs as an ingredient or sub-ingredient
21:51 DaemonFC; I could see if you're trying to save money on groceries or something.
21:52 DaemonFC; The funny part is these stores are pricing meat too high lately and just throwing a lot out as a result.
21:52 DaemonFC; They make nothing.
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21:52 schestowitz-TR; good
21:52 schestowitz-TR; maybe they will stop "producing" it
21:52 *ROUSHD (~ROUSHD@st2hric2k7v2w.irc) has joined #techrights
21:52 schestowitz-TR; hi ROUSHD
21:53 ROUSHD; Hiya!
21:53 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:54 hyperreal; What do you guys think of CompTIA?
21:54 TR News; Is this an article or a paid-for 'ad'? Red Hat launches beta test of automated image-building service for hybrid clouds - SiliconANGLE
21:55 DaemonFC; Well, it would be more logical to find a market equilibrium.
21:55 schestowitz-TR; hyperreal: crooks
21:55 hyperreal; schestowitz-TR do you have a Techrights wiki entry on them?
21:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, We've been eating more pork, lamb, and chicken.
21:55 hyperreal; meh, I'll just look myself. sorry that was a dumb question
21:56 DaemonFC; The red meat is spiraling out of control due to inflation.
21:57 TR News; #ibm #redhat : Open Source rocks, go watch our video about it in #ProprietarySoftware #gulag #youtube https://www.redhat.com/en/open-source-stories/opening-the-loop
21:57 TR Bot; Open Source Stories: Opening the Loop: Autonomy, Access, and Insulin
21:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I've been drinking kombucha to try to get my gut microbiome back into shape after those antibiotics.
21:57 DaemonFC; I like ginger anyway.
21:57 leah; i can't believe i ate all that chicken. i out did myself
21:57 schestowitz-TR; [21:55] <hyperreal> schestowitz-TR do you have a Techrights wiki entry on them?
21:57 schestowitz-TR; many old articles
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2010/04/22/comptia-trade-secrets/
21:58 TR Bot; Hugo Lueders (CompTIA): Associations Members Are Trade Secret | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2010/04/14/msft-harassing-competition-swpat/
21:58 TR Bot; Patents Roundup: IBM, TurboHercules, Microsoft, New Zealand, Palm, and CompTIA | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2009/05/29/idg-boosts-act-comptia/
21:58 TR Bot; IDG, ACT, CompTIA and the Rest of the Microsoft AstroTurf | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2009/03/15/comptia-martin-bean-fraunhofer-fokus/
21:58 TR Bot; CompTIA, Martin Bean, Fraunhofer Fokus, and Other Microsoft Boosters | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2008/03/18/ecma-sellout-comptia/
21:58 TR Bot; ECMAs van den Beld + Microsofts Lobbying Arm (CompTIA) = Total Sellout (Updated) | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2008/02/04/microsoft-comptia-patent-heat/
21:58 TR Bot; The CompTIA Proxy Joins IP Front; Microsoft and Alcatel-Lucent Back in Court | Techrights
21:58 schestowitz; among others
21:58 leah; schestowitz-TR: veganism is easy. the only reason i went back to meat is because: when i went to thailand for surgery, thailand is not a very great place to be vegan for a foreigner recovering from massive surgery. i went there for vaginoplasty. by the time i got home i was already compromised and also needed my mother to cook for me. and she didn't know how to cook for a vegan
21:59 leah; so i compromised again. and habit set in
21:59 leah; i'll probably go back at some point
21:59 DaemonFC; <leah> schestowitz-TR: veganism is easy. the only reason i went back to meat is because: when i went to thailand for surgery, thailand is not a very great place to be vegan for a foreigner recovering from massive surgery. i went there for vaginoplasty. by the time i got home i was already compromised and also needed my mother to cook for me. and she didn't know how to cook for a vegan
21:59 DaemonFC; Medical tourism?
21:59 leah; i invented a thing called black bean pudding you know
21:59 DaemonFC; Let me guess. You're an American too.
21:59 leah; it's exactly whatit sounds like
21:59 leah; vegan black pudding
21:59 DaemonFC; $1,000 bill for them to say "Try Mucinex!".
21:59 leah; american? fuck no. bri'ish m8
21:59 leah; ok i'll sift through those logs now
22:00 DaemonFC; So jumping the line then?
22:00 leah; you what
22:00 DaemonFC; Long waits?
22:00 leah; schestowitz: just search tehnoetic/technoethical all over trisquel forums and reddit
22:00 leah; you will find them
22:00 schestowitz; thanks
22:01 DaemonFC; Medicare is on the verge of insolvency.
22:01 DaemonFC; So what do they do? Cover gender reassignments and Aduhelm.
22:01 DaemonFC; Premiums go up 15% next year.
22:01 DaemonFC; Thanks Biden.
22:02 DaemonFC; He's trying to get himself, well I can't say it.
22:02 DaemonFC; But you know what I would say.
22:02 ROUSHD; I'm not sure that's what's making the premiums go up lmao
22:02 leah; schestowitz: prior to 2018, technoethical was *good* and reliable. it all started ever since that thread about them being bankrupt. the one i linked earlier
22:02 leah; schestowitz: and tiberiu isn't active at all online now. he used to be active everywhere
22:02 psydroid4; https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/facebookmeta-confirms-its-behind-the-largest-data-center-in-zeewolde/
22:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/facebookmeta-confirms-its-behind-the-largest-data-center-in-zeewolde/ )
22:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: datacenterdynamics.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/facebookmeta-confirms-its-behind-the-largest-data-center-in-zeewolde/
22:03 leah; schestowitz: and tct on libera had a swiss hostname, last time i checked. swisscom. yet his company is romanian. and the ip wasn't a vpn or ssh. it was a retail isp that doesn't offer such service
22:03 DaemonFC; My thinking on the reassignments and insurance thing is....
22:03 leah; so
22:03 DaemonFC; Look, I'm all for the surgery being available, but it's not a life or death thing, and healthcare is expensive as shit already.
22:03 psydroid4; 166 hectares = 245 football pitches
22:03 psydroid4; WTH
22:03 leah; basically, tct (technoethical owner. full name Tiberiu C. Turbureanu) fucked off to switzerland, and now just takes money from people, without shipping orders, and never intending to ship them
22:03 leah; total fraud
22:03 leah; fsf-endorsed fraud
22:04 DaemonFC; Before the ACA, I had to make 40% copays on my mental health care because fuck you, that's why.
22:04 leah; and fsf keeps giving me the run around when i tell them about it
22:04 leah; same when others tell them
22:04 psydroid4; and that's about the most fertile land in Europe
22:04 DaemonFC; It went to 20% under the ACA, which is great and all, but then what the doctors bill went up up up.
22:04 DaemonFC; So I'm paying what I was then anyway.
22:04 leah; schestowitz: don't attack fsf though. just technoethical
22:04 leah; if you attack fsf, you'll lose
22:04 leah; technoethical is the only problem here
22:04 leah; let me grab you more links
22:05 leah; then i'll sift through my logs and send them to you
22:05 leah; (irc logs with craigt. he openly admitted to me that he knows technoethical is dirty)
22:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I asked the doctor if he planned to go back to the office in Chicago.
22:05 DaemonFC; He said to clean it out before the lease is up.
22:05 DaemonFC; He's just going to do video calls now.
22:05 *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed)
22:06 DaemonFC; Works for both of us, I guess.
22:06 DaemonFC; He gets out of an expensive lease and can work in his house and has no commute and no exposure to COVID.
22:06 DaemonFC; I don't have to drive to Chicago down the freeway.
22:08 leah; schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/ga5d6e/technoethical_not_delivering_and_not_replying/
22:08 TR Bot; Technoethical not delivering and not replying : libreboot
22:08 leah; schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/pqs0g0/technoethical_wont_send_product_that_i_paid_for/
22:08 TR Bot; Technoethical won't send product that I paid for and won't reply to email. : libreboot
22:10 schestowitz-TR; chhers
22:11 hyperreal; I really like NixOS; I wish they didn't use systemd, or had another init option
22:11 *ROUSHD has quit (Quit: Leaving)
22:12 schestowitz; leah: JUST IN: https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-adopts-new-governance-framework-for-board-members
22:12 TR Bot; FSF Adopts New Governance Framework for Board Members Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
22:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Illinois had to pass a state law against the police or local government units tearing down a child's lemonade stand.
22:17 TR News; Gnu Nano releases version 6.0 of text editor, can now hide UI frippery http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159151#comment-32150
22:17 TR Bot; GNU nano 6.0 Text Editor Is Out with New Color Names, Suspension Enabled by Default | Tux Machines
22:17 DaemonFC; Because it happened in Kankakee last year and the cops came out and tore the stand down and threatened to fine an 11 year old for not having a business permit.
22:17 psydroid4; https://hbr.org/2021/11/time-to-rein-in-big-tech
22:17 TR Bot; Time to Rein In Big Tech?
22:17 schestowitz-TR; "Big Tech"
22:17 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft's term
22:18 TR News; Time to Say Goodbye: #Python 3.6 Is End-of-Life https://thenewstack.io/time-to-say-goodbye-python-3-6-is-end-of-life/ #programming
22:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/time-to-say-goodbye-python-3-6-is-end-of-life/
22:18 TR Bot; Time to Say Goodbye: Python 3.6 Is End-of-Life The New Stack
22:19 TR News; #HowTo install #Shotcut Video Editor on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CGdD1yJD2eI #video #invidious #multimedia
22:19 TR Bot; How to install Shotcut Video Editor on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious
22:19 TR News; "Getting started gaming on Linux is tough if youre new to the platform. To make it easier for new users, well go over various tips to start gaming on Linux." https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/tips-for-getting-started-gaming-on-linux/
22:19 TR Bot; Tips for getting started gaming on Linux
22:21 TR News; #FSF Adopts New Governance Framework for Board Members Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159207 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:21 TR Bot; FSF Adopts New Governance Framework for Board Members | Tux Machines
22:22 TR News; #PinePhone Pro can run full blown #LibreOffice https://dwaves.de/2021/12/16/pinephone-pro-can-run-full-blown-libreoffice/
22:22 TR Bot; PinePhone Pro can run full blown LibreOffice | dwaves.de
22:23 TR News; Why would anyone take #security advice from #backdoors enforcers, who MANDATE back doors in things? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2021/12/16/nsa-and-cisa-release-final-part-iv-guidance-securing-5g-cloud
22:23 TR Bot; NSA and CISA Release Final Part IV of Guidance on Securing 5G Cloud Infrastructures | CISA
22:25 TR News; #clowncomputing is, in general, an elaborate government-backed #scam to convince people and orgs that outsourcing sensitive data to other companies and even other countries is perfectly acceptable technically and legally
22:25 TR News; NXP promotes Hailo-8 NPU on its automotive S32G and LX1062 platforms https://linuxgizmos.com/nxp-promotes-hailo-8-npu-on-its-automotive-s32g-and-lx1062-platforms/ #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #Devices #GNU #Linux
22:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/nxp-promotes-hailo-8-npu-on-its-automotive-s32g-and-lx1062-platforms/
22:25 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/nxp-promotes-hailo-8-npu-on-its-automotive-s32g-and-lx1062-platforms/ )
22:29 schestowitz; https://www.fsf.org/about/board-of-directors-code-of-ethics
22:29 schestowitz; leah: "https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-adopts-new-governance-framework-for-board-members"
22:29 TR Bot; Board of Directors Code of Ethics Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
22:29 schestowitz; maybe I will do a video about this
22:30 schestowitz; "Board members shall not provide goods or services to the FSF as a paid vendor to the organization without full disclosure to, and advance approval by, the board, and adhering to any related procedures adopted by the board."
22:30 schestowitz; "Board members shall not provide goods or services to the FSF as a paid vendor to the organization without full disclosure to, and advance approval by, the board, and adhering to any related procedures adopted by the board."
22:30 schestowitz; "Board members shall all avoid placing--and the appearance of placing--one's own self interest or any third-party interest, including the interests of associate members, above that of the organization as a whole."
22:30 schestowitz; like SFC
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22:31 schestowitz; "Members of the FSF's board of directors agree not to persuade or attempt to persuade any FSF employee to leave the employ of the FSF. Furthermore, no member of the board of directors shall persuade or attempt to persuade any member, director, associate member, funder, donor, advertiser, sponsor, subscriber, supplier, contractor, or any other person or entity with an actual or potential relationship to or with the organization to terminate, curtail,
22:31 schestowitz; or not enter into its relationship to or with the organization, or in any way reduce the monetary or other benefits to the organization of such relationship."
22:31 schestowitz; "Members of the FSF's board of directors will not make use (beyond incidental use) of information, staff, property, or resources provided by the organization, or acquired as a consequence of the board member's service, in any manner other than in furtherance of the organization's activities, and especially not for personal gain."
22:32 schestowitz; in short:
22:32 schestowitz; seems like anti-infiltration safeguards
22:32 schestowitz; well overdue
22:50 leah; schestowitz: btw
22:50 leah; i was wrong earlier
22:50 leah; my memory was faulty. the fsf didn't promote technoethical in this year's giving guide. only libiquity and vikings
22:50 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/rfzt66/bringing_baby_to_rob_the_local_beauty_supply/
22:50 leah; and those companies are fine
22:51 leah; but
22:51 TR Bot; Bringing baby to rob the local beauty supply : trashy
22:51 leah; the fsf *has* known of technoethical for some time now
22:51 leah; this is their giving guide: https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v12/
22:51 TR Bot; Ethical Tech | Giving Guide
22:51 leah; and fsf does still list technoethical on ryf
22:51 leah; https://ryf.fsf.org/categories/laptops
22:51 TR Bot; Laptops | RYF
22:51 schestowitz-TR; respects your funds
22:51 schestowitz-TR; it takes the finances
22:51 schestowitz-TR; delivers no freedom
22:52 schestowitz-TR; it gives an F*
22:52 leah; the whole ryf program is currently a joke
22:52 schestowitz-TR; money pit
22:52 leah; i'm not going to share the full log with you btw. but i'm deciding what little tid bits to paste from it
22:52 schestowitz-TR; leah: I told you those endorsements are risky
22:52 leah; a lot of it is just me being my usual insane self
22:52 schestowitz-TR; because they're not in control of endorsed entities
22:52 schestowitz-TR; so it's a liability time bomb
22:52 leah; you didn't tell me that i think
22:53 AdmFubar1; https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/12/16/reddit_ipo/
22:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/12/16/reddit_ipo/
22:53 TR Bot; SMACKDOWN! Reddit hires wrestling's IR head to helm IPO The Register
22:53 leah; *fsf* selling libreboot hardware would make a lot of sense
22:53 leah; but i think they know: libreboot is dead if they do that
22:53 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar1: so now they can OFFICIALLY declare banruptcy OR
22:53 schestowitz-TR; get some idiot "investors" to throw money at the bubble
22:53 leah; like, for real, the project dies if they do that
22:53 leah; i would refuse to continue working on it ;)
22:53 leah; unless they pay me
22:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe they can pay
22:54 schestowitz-TR; but selling software is not simple
22:54 schestowitz-TR; if it's free
22:54 leah; fsf owes me a debt of gratitude
22:54 schestowitz-TR; so it gets tied to some hardware
22:54 leah; but never mentions my name ever
22:54 leah; not once
22:54 schestowitz-TR; and that typically means paying sweatshops
22:54 leah; the last time they actively promoted *leah rowe* was in like 2016 i think
22:54 leah; maybe 2015
22:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe they are afraid
22:54 leah; they love libreboot. but not me. they don't trust me
22:55 schestowitz-TR; because you keep throwing things at them
22:55 leah; what have they got to be afraid of?
22:55 schestowitz-TR; very unpredictable
22:55 leah; 2016
22:55 leah; that's it
22:55 schestowitz-TR; still
22:55 schestowitz-TR; they remember the past
22:55 leah; and i see the future
22:55 schestowitz-TR; it's like matt gulag
22:55 schestowitz-TR; people who keep attacking some people who used to be friends
22:55 leah; who?
22:56 schestowitz-TR; mattgulag
22:56 schestowitz-TR; red hat/gulag inc.
22:56 leah; who is that
22:56 schestowitz-TR; the oine who sends lawyers to people
22:56 schestowitz-TR; for saying the truth about them
22:56 schestowitz-TR; who stalked techrights irc 24/7
22:57 schestowitz-TR; still not getting the reference?
22:57 leah; nope
22:57 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/
22:57 TR Bot; Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights
22:59 MinceR; not just rh and gulag but also MICROS~1
22:59 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
22:59 TR Bot; Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
22:59 schestowitz; defamation machine
22:59 schestowitz; been trying to dig for some dirt for years
22:59 schestowitz; slandered me based on fiction
22:59 schestowitz; I could sue him
23:00 schestowitz; MinceR: Microsoft the signer of the key
23:00 schestowitz; nice company
23:00 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/15/microsoft-assists-perpetrators-of-domestic-violence/
23:00 TR Bot; Microsofts Human Resources (HR) Policy: We Offer Assistance to Perpetrators of Domestic Violence | Techrights
23:00 schestowitz; but it's a trophy being harassed by that loser because you consider past targets
23:01 schestowitz; notable LT and RMS
23:01 schestowitz; and if we're next on the list then it means we matter
23:01 schestowitz-TR; *notably
23:03 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159208 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:03 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:05 TR News; The Best of VLC: 7 Useful Things You Can Do in #VLC Media Player https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-vlc-tips/
23:05 TR Bot; The Best of VLC: 7 Useful Things You Can Do in VLC Media Player - Make Tech Easier
23:05 leah; anyway i so absolutely care about that
23:05 leah; brb
23:05 schestowitz-TR; what specifically?
23:05 schestowitz-TR; ok
23:06 schestowitz-TR; libreboot is important, keep at it
23:06 schestowitz-TR; credit matters less
23:06 schestowitz-TR; it's a collective effort
23:08 TR News; "They soon got their first gig in PureOS with a short playlist but the audience was freaking out. So they continued to play gigs, got better over time and even played shows in pmOS and Mobian and other spots." https://puri.sm/posts/were-puttin-the-band-back-together/
23:08 TR Bot; We're puttin' the Band back together Purism
23:09 leah; anyway
23:09 leah; schestowitz-TR: i don't look at individual actions
23:09 leah; i look at patterns of behaviour over time
23:09 leah; and the patterns i currently see are very bad
23:09 TR News; "Next in our video editing series for the Librem 14, Gardiner Bryant dives into standard frame rates and when to use which rate. Youll learn how to make a video feel quick or slow things down for a cinematic shot. This video will help those looking to level up their overall video production." https://puri.sm/posts/video-editing-with-linux-dialing-in-the-framerate/
23:09 TR Bot; Video Editing with Linux: Dialing in the Framerate Purism
23:09 leah; it goes beyond me, or purism, or technoethical
23:09 schestowitz-TR; leah: in fsf?
23:10 leah; it's about the heart of an organisation that says one thing but does another in practise
23:10 schestowitz-TR; purism not plays "vloggers"
23:10 schestowitz-TR; like "The Linux Gamner"
23:10 schestowitz-TR; for "content"
23:10 leah; i don't care about youtube dweebs
23:10 schestowitz-TR; [23:10] <leah> it's about the heart of an organisation that says one thing but does another in practise
23:10 schestowitz-TR; Linux Foundation?
23:10 leah; they get their clicks one way or another
23:10 leah; they get their kicks one way or another
23:11 leah; (and later they get kicked, and someone else takes over. fuck youtubers anyway)
23:11 schestowitz-TR; they are temporary fake stars
23:11 schestowitz-TR; like in pop culture
23:11 schestowitz-TR; notice the high turnover of faces
23:11 schestowitz-TR; few last a decade or two
23:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe a handfulper generation
23:12 schestowitz-TR; gulag never lets anyone get "too" impoirtant in gulagtube
23:12 schestowitz-TR; they rip them down
23:12 schestowitz-TR; after a few years
23:12 schestowitz-TR; they control the "algorithm"
23:12 leah; derek taylor is a good youtuber
23:12 leah; but he's the exception, not the norm
23:12 leah; plus he's also on odysee now
23:12 schestowitz-TR; he reads us
23:12 leah; oh really?
23:12 leah; what's his nick?
23:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Mandy got me nasal spray I can't even use. It's got that phenylephrine crap in it.
23:13 leah; i wanna wave to him
23:13 schestowitz-TR; he mentioned us on many shows
23:13 leah; well:
23:13 leah; hey dt! i love your videos. i watched them all
23:13 leah; from libreboot with love
23:13 DaemonFC; The FDA approved it because they were looking for a substitute nasal decongestant that can't be used like pseudoephedrine to make meth.
23:13 leah; schestowitz-TR: anyway, where were we...
23:13 DaemonFC; So they took drug companies at their word that the PE stuff works (it doesn't) and approved it.
23:13 DaemonFC; And now we have a drug that does nothing.
23:13 leah; schestowitz-TR: i don't think the fsf is evil
23:13 leah; i just think they are absolutely and fundamentally lame
23:14 leah; they used to be amazing
23:14 leah; 2005's FSF was amazing
23:14 DaemonFC; You have to go to the pharmacist, ask, be scanned to see if you look sketchy, show your ID, and maybe get real sinus decongestant.
23:14 schestowitz-TR; I liked the old campaigns
23:14 leah; 1980s and 1990s FSF was absolutely world-beating
23:14 schestowitz-TR; like bad vista
23:14 schestowitz-TR; and 7 sins
23:14 leah; the FSF i knew as a teenager was amazing
23:14 schestowitz-TR; the corporate media shamed them into stopping it
23:14 leah; i would *absolutely* support that fsf
23:14 leah; schestowitz-TR: and i saw an opportunity for *that* fsf to return, this year
23:14 leah; schestowitz-TR: but the fsf lost steam. the stuff with rms was a total fluke, earlier this year
23:15 leah; it is now an organization living in the past, high on past glory
23:15 schestowitz-TR; no, they did ok
23:15 schestowitz-TR; he is back
23:15 leah; barely
23:15 schestowitz-TR; now they have a code of ethicsto protect the board from corruption
23:15 DaemonFC; I took sudafed PE when it came out and it didn't do anything for my nasal congestion.
23:15 schestowitz-TR; they are fixing things
23:15 schestowitz-TR; better than last year
23:15 leah; i actually told him recently to grow a pair. in an email. i told him: you should just take over, and be the executive director
23:15 DaemonFC; So I went back and bought pseudoephedrine later and bam....works every time.
23:15 leah; i no longer support the fsf, and i'm disullusioned with rms
23:15 DaemonFC; Politicians in charge of healthcare.
23:15 leah; but i would totally respect rms if he did that
23:16 leah; he should just fucking own it
23:16 leah; and be the boss
23:16 leah; but he wants someone else to do it, to replace john
23:16 leah; but who?
23:16 schestowitz-TR; he is
23:16 schestowitz-TR; he's in charge
23:16 leah; not in practise he isn't
23:16 schestowitz-TR; but from behind the curtain
23:16 schestowitz-TR; for pr reasons
23:16 leah; he's in charge of shit
23:16 leah; a failing empire
23:16 leah; he needs to get his hands dirty
23:16 schestowitz-TR; we get our hands dirty
23:16 leah; but he wants someone like me (but not *me*) to do his work for him
23:16 schestowitz-TR; but we're not fsf
23:16 schestowitz-TR; and we don't have some amazing gnu project
23:17 leah; schestowitz-TR: i greatly admire the work you do with techrights
23:17 schestowitz-TR; our code is about 100 files
23:17 leah; i read your posts daily
23:17 schestowitz-TR; foir the site that is
23:17 leah; i don't always agree with you. but you do good work
23:17 schestowitz-TR; not counting other projects of mine and others
23:17 schestowitz-TR; RMS is back on probation
23:17 schestowitz-TR; afaik, his posts are checked
23:17 schestowitz-TR; before publication
23:18 schestowitz-TR; so he's sort of self-censoring or getting censored
23:18 schestowitz-TR; which sucks
23:18 leah; he should just own it
23:18 leah; like i did with libreboot
23:18 DaemonFC; To make sure they don't say that Jeff Epstein's victims may have consented to sexual intercourse at 12?
23:18 schestowitz-TR; so the revolutionary strands got muted
23:18 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: who said that
23:18 schestowitz-TR; ?
23:18 leah; schestowitz-TR: i didn't become disillusioned with *the* fsf
23:18 DaemonFC; That's what Stallman allegedly said.
23:18 schestowitz-TR; nno
23:18 DaemonFC; I don't know. I don't follow that closely.
23:19 schestowitz-TR; he did not say anything remotely like this
23:19 schestowitz-TR; read up on it
23:19 leah; schestowitz-TR: i became disillusioned in the last few months, with the organisation that is currently pretending to be the fsf
23:19 DaemonFC; I have seen him say a 16 or 17 year old may have consented.
23:19 DaemonFC; Which is true.
23:19 leah; schestowitz-TR: the one that rejected my plans to turn it back to former glory
23:19 leah; i wanted to restore the fsf
23:19 DaemonFC; Only a few states don't have that as their law.
23:19 leah; and i was prepared to lay my life on the line to do it
23:19 leah; they wouldn't have any of it. they chose not to trust me. which is fair enough
23:19 leah; but others like me also reached out
23:19 leah; the fsf would have none of it
23:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Speaking of Washington state and perverts...
23:20 DaemonFC; Apparently, Washington state only enacted a bestiality law after an incident in like 2007.
23:20 leah; i don't care about rms the man. i care about free software
23:20 schestowitz-TR; leah: you won't like me for saying it
23:20 schestowitz-TR; but I understand them
23:20 schestowitz-TR; if they don't trust you
23:20 schestowitz-TR; because of the past
23:20 leah; why would i dislike you?
23:20 DaemonFC; SOme guy had his colon perforated by a horse and then another man dumped his body at a nearby hospital.
23:20 leah; you're just being real
23:20 schestowitz-TR; which gives clues about the future
23:20 schestowitz-TR; like the "boytcott GNU" episode
23:20 leah; i'm incapable of understanding human empathy, and just emulate it
23:20 leah; so that shit is alien to me
23:21 DaemonFC; When the police looked at the law books, there was no law against "humanely fucking a horse", only injuring an animal.
23:21 leah; but i trust your judgement in this matter
23:21 schestowitz-TR; that's imperling you as the face of FSF
23:21 DaemonFC; And so since the animal injured him, but the animal was unharmed while doing it, they got the other guy on trespassing.
23:21 leah; imperling. i never heard that word before
23:21 leah; schestowitz-TR: i care about facts, rationality and the future
23:21 DaemonFC; The judge fined him a few hundred bucks for trespassing and told him to never go to that farm again.
23:22 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, his friend died from his injuries.
23:22 leah; i sometimes mention the past, but only in the context of a pattern it represents, as it pertains to the future
23:22 leah; but those patterns can be defied
23:22 leah; and i try to defy them daily and be better
23:22 schestowitz-TR; that might still not be good enough
23:22 leah; but some people instead prefer to fixate on the past, and they allow themselves to be guided by their emotions
23:22 schestowitz-TR; last month someone asked me why I didn't step up to go for exec dir in fsf
23:23 leah; https://www.dictionary.com/misspelling?term=imperling
23:23 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.dictionary.com/misspelling?term=imperling )
23:23 leah; no result found
23:23 schestowitz-TR; another person wrote to tell me my work was as important as that of rms, which i found ldicxrous tbh
23:23 schestowitz-TR; but mind you, I'm in my 30s
23:23 schestowitz-TR; well...
23:23 schestowitz-TR; for another 37 mins
23:23 schestowitz-TR; then I turn four zero
23:23 schestowitz-TR; so in theory I can still do a lot of things for 30-40 more years
23:23 leah; happy 40th i guess
23:24 schestowitz-TR; not yet
23:24 schestowitz-TR; let me enjoy my 30s ;-)
23:24 leah; well, i turned 30 recently
23:25 leah; i know a few people who are researching life extension
23:25 leah; transhumanism stuff
23:25 schestowitz-TR; that's pointless
23:25 leah; oh?
23:25 schestowitz-TR; many reasons
23:25 schestowitz-TR; the key thing is brain function
23:25 schestowitz-TR; not the organs
23:25 schestowitz-TR; and we're far from repairing brain cells
23:25 leah; that same brain cries out in existential pain when the body stops working
23:26 schestowitz-TR; that's medicine and health
23:26 schestowitz-TR; we know how to make people healthier for longer
23:26 schestowitz-TR; all the transplant stuff included.
23:26 schestowitz-TR; anyway, you and I are young enough to see many evil people die
23:27 schestowitz-TR; George W Bush, Bill Gates, Kissinger
23:27 schestowitz-TR; Kissinger is a case of "any moment now"
23:27 schestowitz-TR; this year we had Colin Powell and otherws
23:28 schestowitz-TR; transhumanism is just a buzzword
23:28 schestowitz-TR; even the nanobot stuff has barely progressed
23:28 schestowitz-TR; like QC
23:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, And yet they won't even treat a sinus infection or high blood pressure.
23:28 schestowitz-TR; why do I still use 2-d mouse and keyboard?
23:28 schestowitz-TR; Where's my mask and glove?
23:28 DaemonFC; They want Medicaid and Medicare clients to go fuck themselves.
23:28 schestowitz-TR; Lots of the gimmicks were oversold in the 90s
23:29 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: in the US poverty kills
23:29 DaemonFC; But they bill insurance a fortune and then tell many of those patients that Mucinex, which they could have bought without going there, is the "recommended treatment".
23:29 schestowitz-TR; being poor is a death sentence
23:29 leah; i think i'll wait to see what the fsf does about technoethical before sharing the rest of those logs
23:30 leah; i'm giving them one last chance. but if they won't budge, i will be forcing the issue
23:30 schestowitz-TR; I think I will do a video soon about the FSF announcement
23:30 schestowitz-TR; they finally take the threat seriously
23:30 schestowitz-TR; what threat?
23:30 leah; oh, yeah
23:30 leah; link that again
23:30 schestowitz-TR; to themselves
23:30 leah; i want to read it
23:30 schestowitz-TR; not just to softwaare freedom
23:30 DaemonFC; I remember someone stole my doctor's prescription pad one time.
23:30 schestowitz-TR; thankfully I never let that happen to us
23:30 schestowitz-TR; some people tried and had a go at it
23:31 DaemonFC; I said it was stupid to take the entire pad. Why didn't they just take a few sheets if they were going to do that?
23:31 schestowitz-TR; Linus messed up by letting the frauds control him
23:31 schestowitz-TR; he wanted comfort and focus
23:31 leah; nevermind, i scrolled back
23:31 schestowitz-TR; so he outsourced or delegrates too much to a bunch of frauds
23:31 leah; https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-adopts-new-governance-framework-for-board-members
23:31 TR Bot; FSF Adopts New Governance Framework for Board Members Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
23:31 leah; https://www.fsf.org/about/board-of-directors-code-of-ethics
23:31 TR Bot; Board of Directors Code of Ethics Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
23:31 *leah reads
23:32 schestowitz-TR; almost every point is a response to a threat they identifies
23:32 schestowitz-TR; like bkuhn using his dseat to promote his SFC
23:32 schestowitz-TR; too much skullduggery
23:32 schestowitz-TR; until they cleaned up the board
23:32 schestowitz-TR; I checked their board 2 nights ago
23:32 schestowitz-TR; same as months ago
23:32 schestowitz-TR; it's stable again
23:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.35
23:33 schestowitz-TR; Techrights inner circle is like a family
23:33 schestowitz-TR; exchanging xmas cards and stuff
23:33 schestowitz-TR; long history and trust
23:34 schestowitz-TR; no corporates
23:34 schestowitz-TR; no people entered in the name of "diversity" alone
23:34 schestowitz-TR; but merit
23:34 schestowitz-TR; LF is all nfiltrated
23:34 schestowitz-TR; it's a living farce
23:34 schestowitz-TR; FB and Microsoft literally BUYING additional seats
23:34 schestowitz-TR; from people who never even used LInux!!
23:35 schestowitz-TR; FSF averted becoming the ***show LF is and has been for years
23:35 schestowitz-TR; so I applaud them for getting back on track as far as chasing away the heretis goes
23:35 schestowitz-TR; without naming anyone in particxular
23:35 schestowitz-TR; even the dake g.n.u. failed
23:35 schestowitz-TR; there's only one GNU
23:35 schestowitz-TR; *fake
23:36 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29973
23:36 TR Bot; FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines
23:36 schestowitz; this was the latest blow, and it was months ago
23:36 schestowitz; the CLA thing
23:36 schestowitz; gcc and glibc
23:37 schestowitz; DaemonFC: WELCOME TO FIREFOX!!! https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/pocket-texas-monthly-take-you-inside-the-world-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-with-new-partnership/
23:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/pocket-texas-monthly-take-you-inside-the-world-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-with-new-partnership/
23:37 TR Bot; Pocket & Texas Monthly Take You Inside The World of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders With New Partnership
23:37 schestowitz; (mins ago)
23:38 leah; schestowitz: i've now read those links
23:38 leah; and i think: meh
23:39 leah; but it's a nice start
23:39 leah; how well those standards will be adhered to is very much a human question
23:40 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FSF-Board-Member-Agreement
23:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FSF-Board-Member-Agreement
23:40 TR Bot; Adopts A Board Member Agreement, Code of Ethics For Board Members - Phoronix
23:41 leah; anyway
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:02:29 leah technoethical has been reported multiple times, since 2017, and as reecent as 1 month ago, they have been reported on r/libreboot, on trisquel forums, and elsewhere. people report that technoethical doesn't ship products
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:02:44 leah they just take your money and run. they literally just do not ship your product
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:02:46 leah /whois tct
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:02:52 leah he's in switzerland if you do that
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:03:13 leah it's not a vpn. it's a retail isp. he's living in switzerland probably living comfortable, scamming people
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:03:15 leah i have proof
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:03:25 leah https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/ga5d6e/technoethical_not_delivering_and_not_replying/
23:41 TR Bot; Technoethical not delivering and not replying : libreboot
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:03:41 leah https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/pqs0g0/technoethical_wont_send_product_that_i_paid_for/
23:41 TR Bot; Technoethical won't send product that I paid for and won't reply to email. : libreboot
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:06 leah and look them up on trisquel forums
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:35 craigt technoethical is on our radar of concerns.
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:50 leah it hasn't been made a big scectacle, because he tries to hide it. i've had people email me, telling me they had to take him to court to get their money back
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:52 craigt It doesn't look good, and that is a fair assessment.
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:05:35 leah when someone does complain publicly, the post gets edited sometimes, to say "2 weeks later, they delivered" or something. but that's because technoethical probably monitors those places, and then does damage control
23:41 leah; 2021-10-18 20:05:52 leah that's intentional fraud
23:42 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:35 craigt technoethical is on our radar of concerns.
23:42 schestowitz-TR; good
23:42 leah; 2021-10-18 20:04:35 craigt technoethical is on our radar of concerns.
23:42 schestowitz-TR; how can they monitor it though?
23:42 leah; 2021-10-18 20:11:40 craigt What you are describing is of major concern, but we are dealing with those businesses separate from your situation.
23:42 schestowitz-TR; unless they have a list of every buyer..
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:35:25 craigt This is a challenging conversation for me, but as you predicted, we are not going to restore your use of the ryf certification. Please don't shoot the messenger.
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:36:17 craigt We put a great deal of thought into your case, at least I know I did.
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:11 leah thought so
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:16 leah nevermind
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:28 craigt Your assessment of the other vendors is unfortunately accurate, and I am taking steps to address them as well.
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:39 leah so
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:49 leah the fsf is deciding to not endorse any libreboot sellers at all at this time
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:37:57 leah presumably it will de-list the other vendors
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:38:38 leah i said i was expecting a no by the way. i'm not mad. i am curious however
23:43 leah; 2021-10-28 19:38:55 craigt de-listing is a likely outcome, but I need to do my due diligence.
23:44 leah; >Your assessment of the other vendors is unfortunately accurate
23:44 schestowitz-TR; so they do respond
23:44 schestowitz-TR; and they check
23:44 schestowitz-TR; seems sincere
23:44 schestowitz-TR; and diplomatic enough
23:45 schestowitz-TR; they don't want to be in the middle of this scandal
23:45 schestowitz-TR; and likely communicate privately with the accused
23:45 schestowitz-TR; you said you are insensitive to some cues and nuance
23:45 schestowitz-TR; what craig does seems apt to me
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:40:51 craigt for me, I mentally itemized your past actions of "being a bastard" <---your words, and I simply was concerned it could happen again.
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:44:02 leah i guess the fsf didn't approve of my actions in regards to rms either
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:44:20 craigt I was going to ask if you would be willing to make that list, but wasn't sure if it would be productive.
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:44:49 leah what would be the purpose of me telling you all the things i think i've done?
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:45:05 craigt Between your actions in regard to rms and the current state of the ryf program were important considerations.
23:46 DaemonFC; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- blog.mozilla.org | Pocket & Texas Monthly Take You Inside The World of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders With New Partnership
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:45:45 craigt I think just to hear it from you versus other people's stories.
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:45:59 leah i'll tell you know, if you'd like
23:46 DaemonFC; SHOW US YOUR TITS!
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:46:26 leah my thoughts, and what i think wenn through everyone's minds during the discussion
23:46 leah; 2021-10-28 19:46:51 craigt I don't think I need to hear them, but thank you.
23:46 schestowitz-TR; purism if a can of worms for similar reasons
23:46 schestowitz-TR; *is
23:46 leah; schestowitz-TR: fsf should grow a fair and de-list technoethical
23:46 schestowitz-TR; you cannot say that, DaemonFC
23:46 leah; anyway, these are snippets from my logs. i included bits of the conversation around them for contact
23:46 schestowitz-TR; "bad actgor"
23:47 DaemonFC; LOL
23:47 schestowitz-TR; they have an extension for this
23:47 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: from fake "woke" to broke soon
23:47 schestowitz-TR; begging Gulag for money
23:47 DaemonFC; My cat is snoring again.
23:47 schestowitz-TR; while Gulag says, "well, not many users left here"
23:48 DaemonFC; She's using that hammock in the cat tree now that I took the sofa bed.
23:48 DaemonFC; They chased all the users away to Brave.
23:48 schestowitz-TR; noit jsut brave
23:48 schestowitz-TR; I use librewolf now
23:48 DaemonFC; While Firefox has lost over 20% of its users, YoY, Brave has more than doubled.
23:48 schestowitz-TR; when I need a gecko browser
23:48 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: they'll win them back... with POCKET
23:49 leah; 2021-12-16 21:02:22 leah https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/rh2ap2/technoethical_paid_for_laptop_11_weeks_ago_still/
23:49 TR Bot; technoethical paid for laptop 11 weeks ago, still waiting : libreboot
23:49 leah; 2021-12-16 21:02:35 leah how are things? have a look at the link i sent you
23:49 schestowitz-TR; that's what you want from a browser
23:49 leah; 2021-12-16 21:03:13 leah also https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-no-laptop-no-refund
23:49 TR Bot; technoethical - no laptop, no refund | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!
23:49 schestowitz-TR; to tell you where to go
23:49 schestowitz-TR; and spy on you
23:49 leah; 2021-12-16 21:41:29 craigt Thank you for the links. The seriousness of the situation is not lost on me. I will keep working on it. I have to admit your updates are motivational.
23:49 schestowitz-TR; good
23:49 schestowitz-TR; he's very helpful
23:49 leah; not really
23:49 schestowitz-TR; no scandal here, afaict
23:49 leah; it's "i will look into it"
23:50 schestowitz-TR; yes, and he does
23:50 schestowitz-TR; and you said the gift guide no longer mentions them
23:50 schestowitz-TR; a first step
23:50 leah; yeah
23:50 schestowitz-TR; anyway, about fsf...
23:50 leah; but they're too slow
23:50 leah; this is what i don't like
23:50 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather focuas on the positive while they are "down'
23:50 leah; i told craig:
23:50 leah; grow some fucking balls
23:50 schestowitz-TR; not helpful
23:50 leah; there are things not included in that log
23:50 leah; or that paste rather
23:51 schestowitz-TR; bad language
23:51 leah; fsf knows about the problem, and has a solution
23:51 leah; they aren't applying the solution
23:51 schestowitz-TR; and with the whole trans thing that wording seems like a trap
23:51 leah; people have complained to them for years
23:51 leah; and the fsf buries its head in the sand
23:51 leah; it's not just this
23:51 leah; it's lots of issues
23:51 leah; stuff just gets buried. nobody ever willing to act on something unless forced to
23:51 leah; talking to them is like talking to your local member of parliament:
23:52 leah; you get the standard run-around tactic, where they say they will look into it
23:52 leah; and nothing happens
23:52 leah; and i can *so* smell that happening here
23:52 TR News; The #mozilla #firefox blog is not about Mozilla or Firefox anymore. It's like an empty vehicle, running on autopilot, hoping new users will be enticed by #spyware
23:53 schestowitz-TR; leah: but seems like they delisted them from gift ideas list
23:53 schestowitz-TR; sometimes you have to persist
23:53 leah; yeah they were listed last year
23:53 schestowitz-TR; and then something happens
23:53 leah; schestowitz-TR: they only didn't put technoethical on the list because they knew this conversation we're having now would start later
23:53 leah; fsf didn't want a scandal
23:53 schestowitz-TR; speaking of gifts, 7 more minutes
23:53 leah; they've known about technoethical's problems since 2018
23:54 schestowitz-TR; than the wife wakes up and unveils some things she bought
23:54 leah; a pair of socks
23:54 leah; and a box of chocolates
23:54 DaemonFC; When you get leadership that just checks a bunch of SJW boxes without any actual abilities, you get the mayor of Chicago.
23:55 leah; seems a bit random
23:55 DaemonFC; Black, check, licks pussy, check, says she wants to do a bunch of progressive things then hurts black people, the mentally ill, and the homeless more than Rahm managed, check and mate.
23:55 TR News; #PCMag -- or another #idg site -- is a #spamfarm or #webspam still pretending to be a news site (which is what it used to be; it's piggybacking some past reputation to con people who haven't kept up with changes)
23:55 leah; what party is she from
23:55 DaemonFC; Democrat
23:56 leah; conservative by british standards
23:56 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: [21:44] <MinceR> https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797814.jpg
23:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797814.jpg
23:56 leah; can you give examples of harm this person has caused
23:56 schestowitz-TR; techrights always looks past the superficial BS
23:56 schestowitz-TR; LF is 99% BS
23:56 DaemonFC; <leah> can you give examples of harm this person has caused
23:57 leah; schestowitz-TR: fsf is 99.9% bs
23:57 schestowitz-TR; naaa
23:57 leah; and 0.1% paying gnu maintainers a wage
23:57 DaemonFC; Half of all small businesses including about a third of the restaurants are boarded up.
23:57 DaemonFC; Rent goes higher and higher.
23:57 schestowitz-TR; US is f---she
23:57 schestowitz-TR; US is f---shed
23:57 DaemonFC; Record empty office space. Dead tourism industry. Public transit fare paying riders cut in half.
23:57 schestowitz-TR; too much debt racked up
23:57 schestowitz-TR; the s0o-called 'job creators
23:57 schestowitz-TR; who sucked up all the capital
23:58 schestowitz-TR; they will leave
23:58 schestowitz-TR; they already have many homes abroad; macao, canada, you name it...
23:58 leah; if i understand the apparatus of the american state well, i can conclude that your politicians have very little real power over the state of things. your laws and your power structures are such that business has more power over peoples lives than the politicians
23:58 schestowitz-TR; they won't stay around for street riots
23:58 leah; so a well-meaning politician gets elected and finds out how powerless they are
23:58 leah; and they get blamed by people like you, who want justice
23:58 leah; rents going up sounds like the fault of landlords
23:58 DaemonFC; It's really not.
23:59 DaemonFC; It bubbles up from high property taxes and over-regulation.
23:59 leah; what's this lovely lady's name?
23:59 leah; i'm curious to look her up
23:59 DaemonFC; Lori Lightfoot
23:59 DaemonFC; She said she may not run again.
23:59 leah; more like pussyfoot, by what you're describing
23:59 *leah looks up that name
23:59 DaemonFC; Even the people who elected her are sick of this.
23:59 schestowitz-TR; same for biden
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