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00:00 schestowitz-TR; let's trust meltdown intel
00:01 TR News; "vice president of research at the Linux Foundation" https://devops.com/linux-foundation-survey-sees-rise-in-sbom-use/ they mean principal shill. In LF, "research" means #marketing http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/
00:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/linux-foundation-survey-sees-rise-in-sbom-use/
00:01 TR Bot; Foundation Survey Sees Rise in SBOM Use - DevOps.com
00:01 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights
00:01 bnchs; what produts
00:02 bnchs; does linux foundation have any meaningful products
00:02 bnchs; rather than it being obfuscated and confusing on what they do
00:02 TR News; #linuxfoundation is just a front group, collective indebted to its sponsors. Go check out who sponsors it. I dare you. Also check the Board.
00:03 TR News; #linuxfoundation: we support inclusion. Also 'Linux' Foundation: we exclude Arabs. You are all banned. http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/
00:03 TR Bot; People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights
00:04 TR News; #linuxfoundation cares about #linux like I care about #vmware (also: LF is funded, hence partly controlled, by VMware)
00:04 psydroid2; yes, they have USB root hubs
00:04 schestowitz-TR; lol
00:04 schestowitz-TR; they just put their names in the code
00:05 bnchs; ^
00:05 bnchs; they made no contribution, other than putting their names in other people's works
00:05 bnchs; like kernel modules
00:05 TR News; Jim #Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ #Techrights #Linux #linuxfoundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/
00:05 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights
00:06 TR News; James #zemlin : I AM YOUR GOD!!! Worship ME! http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4
00:06 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: yes, exactly
00:07 schestowitz-TR; so when i lsusb
00:07 schestowitz-TR; i can see LF
00:07 schestowitz-TR; but what did they do?
00:07 schestowitz-TR; what al gore did for the internet
00:07 schestowitz-TR; secured some moneyor a vote
00:07 schestowitz-TR; but no actual work
00:07 schestowitz-TR; real work
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00:08 TR News; REMINDER: #linuxfoundation is NOT about Linux! (Also, Federal Express is NOT Federal) http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
00:08 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
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00:09 TR News; #Slashdot has just admitted it's an anti- #linux platform (Editor) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32813
00:09 TR Bot; VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines
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00:11 TR News; When Logan took over #slashdot (later #linuxjournal as well, among other "ASSETS") he came to #techrights IRC to assure us things would change for the better. He also asked me to change our wiki page (no, he did not deserve the benefit of the doubt) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Slashdot
00:11 TR Bot; Slashdot - Techrights
00:13 bnchs; i looked at the hcd.c (the usb root hub kernel module) in the most earlist commit
00:13 bnchs; it didn't have the linux foundation id at all
00:13 bnchs; this was from a commit in 2005
00:13 schestowitz-TR; wait until they asanitise it
00:13 schestowitz-TR; no "Microsoft bashing| allowed
00:14 schestowitz-TR; later they might even change USB drivers to make the language in comments more gender-neutral
00:14 schestowitz-TR; and all sorts of other Intel BS
00:14 schestowitz-TR; of couirse Intel workers already removed "offensive" words
00:14 schestowitz-TR; aadded hugs instead
00:14 schestowitz-TR; yes, nothhig offensive about adding physical contact
00:14 schestowitz-TR; unwanted p[hysical contact
00:14 schestowitz-TR; during pandemic
00:14 schestowitz-TR; code full of hugs
00:15 schestowitz-TR; I can think of political hacks who use hugs
00:15 schestowitz-TR; hugs which I did not ask for
00:15 schestowitz-TR; FreeBSD: virtual hugs are CoC violation
00:15 bnchs; got the commit that the Linux Foundation id was added
00:15 bnchs; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/core/hcd.c?id=667d691ed7a70c9a9fde5b6bd663a5f38326e026
00:15 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
00:15 schestowitz; https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
00:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
00:15 TR Bot; Careful with the 'virtual hugs' says new FreeBSD Code of Conduct The Register
00:15 bnchs; Turns out that a company is out there using the vendor id of 0x0000 in
00:15 bnchs; the wild, so use a real vendor/product id for the root hubs.
00:15 bnchs; Now that the Linux Foundation has a real vendor id, we use that, and the
00:15 bnchs; first product id
00:16 schestowitz; https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-patch-replaces-f-words-with-hugs-in-kernel-comments-but-some-cry-censorship/
00:16 TR Bot; patch replaces f-words with 'hugs' in kernel comments, but some cry censorship | ZDNet
00:16 schestowitz; https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/
00:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/
00:16 TR Bot; F-Words in Linux Kernel Code Replaced with "Hug"?
00:16 schestowitz; https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs
00:16 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs )
00:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: crunchyroll.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs
00:16 bnchs; so this guy replaces the vendor id with the Linux Foundation because appparently vendor id 0x000 is already used by another company?
00:17 TR News; FreeBSD: DO NOT USE VIRTUAL HUGS!!! https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/ Intel: LINUX NEEDS LOTS OF VIRTUAL HUGS: https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/
00:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/
00:17 TR Bot; Careful with the 'virtual hugs' says new FreeBSD Code of Conduct The Register
00:18 TR News; Large corporations will try to destroy #freesw by killing its CULTURE. Hence, communities (they hope) will "blow up".
00:18 bnchs; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/core/hcd.c?id=667d691ed7a70c9a9fde5b6bd663a5f38326e026
00:18 bnchs; Linux Foundation had contributed nothing to the USB driver, just as i thought
00:19 bnchs; but only got their names in the vendor ID
00:19 TR News; #3DPrinting Rainbows | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/13/3d-printing-rainbows/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest
00:19 TR Bot; Printing Rainbows | Hackaday
00:19 TR Bot; Index of /2022/02/14/
00:21 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: yes
00:21 schestowitz-TR; vendor neutrality as a service
00:21 schestowitz-TR; same as ASF
00:21 schestowitz-TR; you throw dead products at them
00:21 schestowitz-TR; and then they pretend it is "community"
00:21 schestowitz-TR; or "decentralised"
00:21 schestowitz-TR; even when it is not
00:21 schestowitz-TR; like intel with zephyr
00:23 TR News; #phoronix #benchmarks = product #marketing (no, it's not free; and it was NOT always like that) http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
00:23 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
00:24 TR News; I wonder at what point #Wccftech decided to reinvent itself as #phoronix "me-too" and why. Same sponsors?
00:26 TR News; #linuxfoundation CANNOT defend #linux from FUD because the perpetrators of the FUD are paying the LF (to keep silent). LF speaking out in defence of Linux would literally be financially damaging to LF. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
00:26 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
00:27 TR News; Experimenting With A Two Camera Setup (Not Real Content!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sWo1sO4yeCI I already do it with external and internal (laptop) camera; budget of like 15 pounds in terms of #hardware ... LOL
00:27 TR Bot; Experimenting With A Two Camera Setup (Not Real Content!) - Invidious
00:28 TR News; Mark my words: Epic WILL bring Fortnite to the Steam Deck. Plus other Steam Deck news. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v86Bz_EAEZw #video #invidious #gnu #linux
00:28 TR Bot; Mark my words: Epic WILL bring Fortnite to the Steam Deck. Plus other Steam Deck news. - Invidious
00:29 TR News; "Picking a new #GNU #Linux distro can be fairly time consuming so how about we eliminate the need to choose and let someone or something else do it, this is distrochooser which will do exactly that." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kIOE5nEn7Kg
00:29 TR Bot; Pick Your Next Linux Distro With DistroChooser! - Invidious
00:33 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I don't understand the canon with the Vulcans in Enterprise.
00:34 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The way they're presented is as is Romulans are not a thing.
00:34 TR News; When your regime (Trump, Biden) gives 8,000 billion dollars (8 trillion) in 2 years to large corporations (and a little bit for people in actual need) you devalue your currency https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/inflation-rate-higher-national-average-tremont-shooting see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
00:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/inflation-rate-higher-national-average-tremont-shooting
00:34 TR Bot; Inflation Rate Higher Than National Average + Tremont Shooting | Cleveland, OH Patch
00:34 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
00:34 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> DaemonFC: The way they're presented is as is Romulans are not a thing.
00:34 buzzert; was it before the romulan-vulkan schism?
00:35 DaemonFC; United Earth Starfleet doesn't know what the Romulan Star Empire is and the Vulcans have not told them.
00:35 TR News; Ricardo Garcia: My #FOSDEM 2022 talk: Fun with border colors in #Vulkan https://rg3.name/202202122125.html #freesw #graphics
00:35 TR Bot; Geek Blight - My FOSDEM 2022 talk: Fun with border colors in Vulkan
00:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rg3.name | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rg3.name/202202122125.html
00:35 DaemonFC; In one episode with Daniels in the 29th century, Captain Archer starts reading something and says "Romulan Star Empire?" and he mispronounces Romulan.
00:36 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Oh yea, I forgot he did that.
00:36 DaemonFC; Then Daniels pulls it away and says "It's probably best you don't read too much while you're here.".
00:36 XRevan86; buzzert: Naturally.
00:37 DaemonFC; He tells Archer about the Federation though.
00:37 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I asked this question while watching an episode with the first Romulan appearance in the series :D
00:37 XRevan86; Just read a spoiler for it.
00:37 DaemonFC; It's probably because the Federation will happen in a few years whether Archer knows or not, so it's safe to tell him.
00:38 MinceR; hero of the federation
00:38 DaemonFC; Or because Daniels is causing a predestination paradox because he knows the Federation will happen because he came back in time and told Archer about it.
00:38 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Daniels wouldn't really care about predestination though.
00:39 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/jizz_fashion.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/whats-this-in-these-pants/ )
00:39 XRevan86; Besides, these things would happened or not regardless of what ideas one person has.
00:39 TR Bot; Whats this in these pants?
00:39 DaemonFC; Like Skynet probably knew the T-800 would fail to kill Sarah Conner but that it had already lost the war and by sending it back, the components would be found and cause a different iteration of itself, and possibly a timeline where it could win.
00:39 MinceR; Sarah Conner, the hard drive manufacturer
00:39 DaemonFC; Daniels has the ability to monitor potential changes to the timeline, but only so many.
00:40 DaemonFC; Presumably, there'd be no point in a Temporal Cold War if everyone participating in it was sure of the outcome.
00:41 DaemonFC; Predestination paradoxes would be important to you if your existence in the timeline depended on it.
00:42 DaemonFC; "Terminator" time travel rules always have the future and the past in flux.
00:42 DaemonFC; The future ends up being the cause, and the past being the effect.
00:43 DaemonFC; It makes sense because once you have time travel capability, time and cause and effect essentially flow in both directions now.
00:43 DaemonFC; There's no telling how many dead timelines Skynet would have made trying to save itself, before accidentally wiping out all possibility of its own existence, leading to Legion instead.
00:44 DaemonFC; All we see are the ones in the movies.
00:44 DaemonFC; And any movie can wipe out the timeline of any of the rest, but still exist only because of it.
00:44 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: oooof
00:45 schestowitz-TR; bill clinton: I did not have sex with that woman
00:45 schestowitz-TR; (was she a kid?)
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00:45 DaemonFC; In Salvation, it was a direct sequel to Terminator 3. Skynet happened pretty late (2004) and as such, it wasn't quite as advanced as it was in the original timeline, where it happened in the mid 1990s.
00:46 DaemonFC; The T-600 model appears in Salvation and in TSCC, but the models are very different.
00:47 DaemonFC; In Salvation, it's basically a big humanoid robot with gattling guns. You'd never mistake it for a person though. In TSCC, the T-600 has rubbery synthetic skin and is otherwise roughly human-sized. At night or behind a bunch of smoke, or from a distance, it could fool humans.
00:47 TR News; #easyOPS latest: Changes needed to fix JWMDesk http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32815
00:47 TR Bot; EasyOS version 3.4 released | Tux Machines
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00:48 TR News; "These are some answers to the Week 151 of the #Perl Weekly Challenge organized by Mohammad S. Anwar." http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/02/perl-weekly-challenge-151-binary-tree-depth.html #programming
00:48 TR Bot; Weekly Challenge 151: Binary tree Depth | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]
00:49 TR News; close
00:49 TR News; close
00:50 TR News; FSS, not #github http://seifesrants.blogspot.com/2022/02/make-hibernation-great-again.html #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is NOT a legitimate platform for #freesw http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
00:50 TR Bot; seife's assorted rants: Make Hibernation Great Again!
00:50 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights
00:50 XRevan86; I really disliked T'Pol's actress' acting in Season 1, she grew on me.
00:52 TR News; "I wrote that Ill be working on extending the Ellipse Assistant Tool to add support for Perspective Ellipse in Krita." #kde #sok #krita http://srirupa19.github.io/sok/2022/02/13/second_post.html #programming #deletegithub
00:52 TR Bot; Second Blog Post for SoK 2022 | Srirupas Blog
00:53 TR News; Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 5: Collaborative Document Editing | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-5-collaborative-document-editing/ #gnu #linux #nextcloud #freesw #slackware
00:53 TR Bot; Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 5: Collaborative Document Editing | Alien Pastures
00:53 TR News; #MariaDB 10.7 Database Server Released with New Capabilities Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161423 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:53 TR Bot; MariaDB 10.7 Database Server Released with New Capabilities | Tux Machines
00:54 TR News; #LiveRaizo v13.22.02.13i released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161424 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:54 TR Bot; LiveRaizo v13.22.02.13i released! | Tux Machines
00:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161425 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:55 TR News; Introducing #RPM Spec Wizard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161426 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:55 TR Bot; Introducing RPM Spec Wizard | Tux Machines
00:55 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161427 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:55 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines
00:57 TR News; "Dont worry about the March 1st timeline - even if our preparations are not done by then, everything will be fine. Please refrain from spamming Lukas, me, or anyone else. That doesnt make things go any faster. Make yourself a hot chocolate or something and relax." #joindiaspora @glynmoody https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
00:57 TR Bot; # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.fene ...
00:57 TR Bot; git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
00:57 TR Bot; git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
00:58 TR Bot; git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
00:58 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> I really disliked T'Pol's actress' acting in Season 1, she grew on me.
00:59 DaemonFC; Yeah, she eventually gets Vulcan AIDS and has to deal with being shunned.
00:59 DaemonFC; Which you'd think the Vulcans would be long past.
00:59 DaemonFC; Then a drug addiction.
01:00 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The Vulcans in this series don't look reasonable/logical at all.
01:00 TR News; Josh Bressers: Episode 310 Hayley Tsukayama from the EFF talks about privacy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161427#comment-32817
01:00 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines
01:00 DaemonFC; They act more like Romulans than Vulcans.
01:00 DaemonFC; They're rude, suspicious, arrogant.....
01:01 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: I made a mention of AIDS/HIV patents today
01:01 schestowitz-TR; in the video being uploaded at the moment
01:01 schestowitz-TR; I think you know that area a lot better than me because you did a lot more reading
01:01 DaemonFC; They're also quite dishonorable and warlike. They're in a conflict with the Andorians, and they pretend a listening outpost is a quite temple for Vulcan monks.
01:01 schestowitz-TR; and you know the companies that carved out patent territories
01:02 DaemonFC; And I know a lot of people who have been affected by it.
01:02 schestowitz-TR; that too
01:02 schestowitz-TR; btw
01:02 schestowitz-TR; re rogan "experience"
01:02 DaemonFC; It's not as much of an issue today because people should know how it spreads and that medication compliant patients are hardly a threat anyway.
01:02 schestowitz-TR; the rogan foes use HIV against Neil Young
01:02 DaemonFC; But there's still "those people" out there.
01:02 schestowitz-TR; something about him blaming it on gays or something decades ago
01:03 schestowitz-TR; I assume it's a tit-for-tat for the "Rogan said N word" thing
01:03 DaemonFC; Probably. Rogan acting like Putin.
01:03 schestowitz-TR; I never watched his show
01:03 schestowitz-TR; barely even a portion of it
01:03 DaemonFC; Well, 200 years ago there were slaves in America so what Russia is doing today isn't so bad really.
01:03 schestowitz-TR; what's all the hype about?
01:04 schestowitz-TR; US political discourse is a lot sicker than ours
01:04 schestowitz-TR; Russia is scary to me culturally
01:04 schestowitz-TR; people getting very combative very fast
01:05 XRevan86; Huh?
01:05 schestowitz-TR; yeah,. what you heard
01:05 schestowitz-TR; there's the reputation for it
01:06 schestowitz-TR; don't upset a Russian, to generalise a little
01:06 schestowitz-TR; so goes the stigma
01:06 schestowitz-TR; wh
01:06 XRevan86; schestowitz: En garde!
01:06 schestowitz-TR; which I cannot easily dispute as outright skanderous
01:09 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ironically I have a relative that was beaten up by a British, but none beaten up by Russians.
01:10 XRevan86; s/a (British)/the \1/
01:10 schestowitz-TR; interesting, I didn't say we were a lot better
01:10 schestowitz-TR; nor US
01:10 schestowitz-TR; gentler cultures exist
01:10 schestowitz-TR; but those with big egos are easily irritated and temper turns to action
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01:11 XRevan86; schestowitz: The stories about temper that are relatable to my region are Scandinavian.
01:11 TR News; #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 13th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161428 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:11 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 13th, 2022 | Tux Machines
01:11 XRevan86; So not exactly hot heads.
01:11 schestowitz-TR; I know
01:12 schestowitz-TR; you are in one of the "good parts"
01:12 schestowitz-TR; not far from the Baltic sea
01:12 XRevan86; But one's kilometrage may vary. It's a big country.
01:12 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: used to be bigger lol
01:12 XRevan86; So did the UK :)
01:13 schestowitz-TR; a LOT bigger
01:13 schestowitz-TR; like 10 times bigger
01:13 schestowitz-TR; natives fell for the flowers we fished at their feet ;-)
01:13 schestowitz-TR; *dished
01:14 schestowitz-TR; but things are weird
01:14 schestowitz-TR; see Iraq
01:14 schestowitz-TR; and how that turned out
01:14 schestowitz-TR; my great uncle fought to the britsih Army
01:14 schestowitz-TR; his father... the German Army
01:16 schestowitz; MariaDB 10.7 is out
01:16 XRevan86; schestowitz: A few days ago.
01:16 schestowitz-TR; yeah, barely mentioned anywhere
01:16 schestowitz-TR; I only saw it today
01:17 XRevan86; schestowitz: One of my great-grandfathers fought in the army, and grandmother lived through the blockade.
01:18 XRevan86; Here everyone knows which blockade.
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01:21 schestowitz-TR; what to search for in "wiki"?
01:24 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
01:24 TR Bot; Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia
01:25 TR News; Links 14/2/2022: #MariaDB 10.7, KDE Frameworks 5.91.0, and Linux 5.17 RC4 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/linux-5-17-rc4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/13/linux-5-17-rc4/
01:25 TR Bot; Links 14/2/2022: MariaDB 10.7, KDE Frameworks 5.91.0, and Linux 5.17 RC4 | Techrights
01:25 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161429 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:25 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
01:26 *schestowitz-TR reading
01:27 schestowitz-TR; I read about ir years ago
01:27 schestowitz-TR; but this says a lot more
01:27 schestowitz-TR; it was a very critical battle
01:28 schestowitz-TR; didn't know Finland had been coopted by Hitler to do this
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01:30 XRevan86; It was a siege that took years, millions died.
01:31 schestowitz-TR; more than UK+US lost in the whole war
01:31 schestowitz-TR; inc. on the pacific front (Japan)
01:31 schestowitz-TR; but hollywood focuses on dday and pearl harbour
01:32 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#/media/File:Two_little_girls_assemble_submachine_guns_during_the_siege_of_Leningrad,_1943._(46089025944).jpg
01:32 TR Bot; Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia
01:33 schestowitz; "December: Winston Churchill wrote in his diary "Leningrad is encircled, but not taken.""
01:34 schestowitz; "Historian Michael Walzer summarized that "The Siege of Leningrad killed more civilians than bombing of Hamburg, Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.""
01:35 schestowitz; "Almost all Finnish historians regard the siege as a German operation and do not consider that the Finns effectively participated in the siege. Russian historian Nikolai Baryshnikov argues that active Finnish participation did occur, but other historians have been mostly silent about it, most likely due to the friendly nature of post-war SovietFinnish relations"
01:37 XRevan86; That explains things, because Finnish participation is not widely known.
01:37 schestowitz; the way I understand it, from high school edu, this is where nazi germany perished
01:37 schestowitz; not dday
01:37 schestowitz; but these prolonged battles in the easy
01:38 schestowitz; with russians taking much of the brunt
01:38 schestowitz; and highest death toll
01:38 schestowitz; some days ago in techrights I alluded to Russia winning the war
01:38 schestowitz; as I still regard them as the victors
01:38 schestowitz; the west claims false victory
01:38 schestowitz; over time hollywood reinforced this false perception
01:38 XRevan86; I'm not a historian, I'm not going to agree or disagree with any assessment.
01:39 schestowitz; though back in the 40s and 50s it was common knowledge that it was the Soviets who had defeated the nazis
01:39 XRevan86; By the death toll USSR is ahead of everyone by a huge margin.
01:39 schestowitz; with the wastern front joining later and claiming a landslide victory when fiercest battles were in the eastern front
01:40 schestowitz; let me find something...
01:40 schestowitz; https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not
01:40 TR Bot; successful 70-year campaign to convince people the USA and not the USSR beat Hitler - Vox
01:40 schestowitz; image: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2246159/sondage-nation-contribue-defaite-nazis_medium.jpg
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01:41 schestowitz; by 2022 it is probably worse
01:41 schestowitz; blame hollywood
01:41 XRevan86; It's hard to imagine a victory over Nazi Germany without the eastern front, without the US it's somehow easier.
01:41 schestowitz; so people who LIVED through the war had a consensus
01:41 schestowitz; USSR had won
01:42 schestowitz; 57% USSR
01:42 schestowitz; USA 20%
01:42 schestowitz; 2004 opposite
01:42 schestowitz; USSA [sic.] 58%
01:42 schestowitz; USSR 20%
01:42 schestowitz; so a lot of people were fooled
01:43 schestowitz; and to many people the only victims of the war were in the camps
01:43 schestowitz; not the trenches etc.
01:43 schestowitz; meanwhile china was killing many of its own people
01:43 XRevan86; schestowitz: The US defines the narrative, that is factual.
01:44 schestowitz-TR; it's good that US protects its "next-door neighbour" ukraine
01:45 schestowitz-TR; maybe next year USSR will send troops to mexico
01:45 XRevan86; schestowitz: The Leningrad population was dying en masse neither in camps nor in trenches.
01:45 schestowitz-TR; yeah
01:45 schestowitz-TR; and suffered just about as much
01:45 schestowitz-TR; anyway, USSA, Inc. might try to start another war soon
01:45 schestowitz-TR; to kill its poorest
01:46 schestowitz-TR; before they can stage another coup
01:46 schestowitz-TR; now they test the water
01:46 schestowitz-TR; Iran.. Russia... China
01:46 schestowitz-TR; it starts by inciting the population, using the media...
01:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: Only Russia can take the initiative to start a war here.
01:47 XRevan86; Another coup?
01:47 schestowitz-TR; Russia has its own problems, toio
01:47 schestowitz-TR; the typical tactis is
01:48 schestowitz-TR; make false dichotomies
01:48 schestowitz-TR; "us" OR "them"
01:48 schestowitz-TR; and it's never about class
01:48 schestowitz-TR; but nations etc.
01:49 XRevan86; Anyway, this week will be pretty scary.
01:49 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#/media/File:RIAN_archive_58228_Leningrad_Front_Soldiers_Before_Offensive.jpg
01:49 TR Bot; Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia
01:49 schestowitz; XRevan86: this upcoming monday-friday?
01:49 schestowitz; what happens next?
01:49 schestowitz; [09:02] <techrights-news> NEWS #CommonDreams #Russia Official Denounces 'Peak Hysteria' Following Putin-Biden Call Over #Ukraine https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/12/russian-official-denounces-peak-hysteria-following-putin-biden-call-over-ukraine
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01:49 TR Bot; Russian Official Denounces 'Peak Hysteria' Following Putin-Biden Call Over Ukraine
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01:50 XRevan86; schestowitz: The Western intelligence predicts Russian invasion this week.
01:50 schestowitz-TR; well, they predicted other BS too
01:50 schestowitz-TR; and bloomberg already wrote an article about it
01:50 XRevan86; They're probably full of crap, but one cannot be fully certain.
01:51 schestowitz; "We prepare headlines for many scenarios and the headline Russia Invades Ukraine was inadvertently published around 4 p.m. ET today on our website. We deeply regret the error. The headline has been removed and we are investigating the cause."
01:51 schestowitz; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error
01:51 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
01:51 XRevan86; Bloomberg accidentally published a draught and everyone's lost their minds (:
01:51 schestowitz; iirc, they did jobs also
01:51 schestowitz; not sure if was them..
01:52 schestowitz; it was! https://www.computerworld.com/article/2532689/steve-jobs--death-greatly-exaggerated--bloomberg-obit-a-mistake.html
01:52 TR Bot; Jobs' death greatly exaggerated; Bloomberg obit a mistake | Computerworld
01:52 GNUmoon2; https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/02/bloomberg-news-ran-a-false-headline-russia-invades-ukraine-for-24-minutes-on-friday-heres-the-untold-story/
01:52 TR Bot; Bloomberg News Ran a False Headline, Russia Invades Ukraine, for 24 Minutes on Friday. Heres the Untold Story.
01:52 schestowitz; gee, can't wait for a job at Mike Bloomberg PAC
01:52 schestowitz; I get to write fictional story
01:52 schestowitz; about the death of living people
01:52 schestowitz; and invasion of nations which never happened
01:52 schestowitz; fiction writing
01:52 schestowitz; "France invades UK"
01:53 schestowitz; "sorry, no... just in case this happens..."
01:53 XRevan86; Always fun when draughts get leaked. Especially when it's obituaries.
01:53 schestowitz; "nothing to see here, move along... preparations for "exclusive"..."
01:54 XRevan86; schestowitz: The most detailed thing I know about Bloomberg is their work with Navalny, I respect their work there.
01:54 schestowitz; first job for 'Mike' Bloomberg: write a story abut RMS dying from a heart attack during a talk
01:54 schestowitz; write a story about a young girl saying Bill Gates had molested her on a plane of Epstein
01:54 schestowitz; Write a story about Putin's daughter being the victim of incest
01:54 schestowitz; you know..
01:55 schestowitz; just in case
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01:57 XRevan86; Tactical training on the border with Ukraine is definitely not ominous.
01:58 schestowitz; https://www.maketecheasier.com/latest-windows-10-update-problems/
01:58 TR Bot; Latest Windows 10 Update Problems and How to Fix Them - Make Tech Easier
01:58 schestowitz; they still have BLUE screen?
01:58 schestowitz; XRevan86: muscle-flexing
01:58 schestowitz; Putin showing who's boss
01:58 XRevan86; Why change the colour?
01:59 schestowitz-TR; btw
01:59 schestowitz-TR; in case of war between ru and us
01:59 XRevan86; schestowitz: Most probably.
01:59 schestowitz-TR; assuming china stays neutral
01:59 schestowitz-TR; which is likelyt
01:59 schestowitz-TR; they would emerge as biggest winner
01:59 schestowitz-TR; nato and ru would nuke each other
02:00 schestowitz-TR; china will remain the sole superpower
02:00 XRevan86; schestowitz: NATO can squash Russia like a bug.
02:00 schestowitz-TR; usa and ru, maybe eu also, will have many dresdens
02:00 schestowitz-TR; or hiroshimas
02:01 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: at what cost?
02:01 schestowitz-TR; thoiusands of nukes on eu and us?
02:01 schestowitz-TR; nukes have changed the rules of the game
02:01 schestowitz-TR; and h-bombs
02:01 MinceR; no one cares about that
02:01 XRevan86; schestowitz: I didn't mean warfare.
02:02 MinceR; especially not the "leaders" who control them and believe that if they die, they go to heaven, while if their enemies die, they go to hell
02:02 schestowitz-TR; also, manchester is probably on the "hot list" for one of the h-bomb
02:02 MinceR; also especially not the "leaders" who believe their own propaganda
02:02 XRevan86; schestowitz: Russia wouldn't survive a day under full economic blockade.
02:02 schestowitz-TR; and I am near the centrle ^_^
02:03 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: today's wars won't last a day
02:03 schestowitz-TR; but ns carl sagan put it
02:03 XRevan86; So the moment it's economically viable for the EU to cut ties with Russia, it's the moment when it collapses.
02:03 schestowitz-TR; one afternoon
02:03 schestowitz-TR; for some ballistic missiles it takes like an hour to travel tot he target
02:03 MinceR; 14 030239 < XRevan86> schestowitz: Russia wouldn't survive a day under full economic blockade.
02:03 MinceR; how?
02:04 MinceR; don't they have stockpiles of food that would last longer than a day?
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02:04 XRevan86; MinceR: To understand how one needs to look at the power structure of the country.
02:04 DaemonFC; I found some steaks in my freezer that I put there in 2020. :/ Still made for a decent broccoli beef though.
02:04 schestowitz-TR; freezer us OK
02:05 schestowitz-TR; it's not economic thought to store things there for this long
02:05 DaemonFC; Yeah, they were just starting to get a little freezer burned.
02:05 XRevan86; MinceR: The people that control the country live and invest abroad.
02:05 DaemonFC; So I just made something that required a lot of sauce to make up for the moisture loss and maybe slightly degraded taste.
02:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Well, I wasn't careful and it slipped to the back.
02:06 XRevan86; Am I to expect that they'll sacrifice everything for the greater bad?
02:06 DaemonFC; The fridge is running even if there's nothing in it.
02:06 DaemonFC; It uses more electricity if it's mostly empty than mostly full.
02:06 DaemonFC; Technically, it's more economical on power to keep the freezer near capacity.
02:06 MinceR; XRevan86: i don't know what crazy people will sacrifice for what
02:07 TR News; " #Intel has revealed it plans to have its mysterious plans for software-defined silicon delivered in the next version of the Linux kernel." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/intel_sdsi_linux_5_18/ Intel hates Linux (but cannot ignore it totally): http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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02:07 TR Bot; Intel's software-defined silicon set to debut in Linux 5.18 The Register
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02:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I was making fun of unions and Starbucks on LateStageCapitalism earlier.
02:08 XRevan86; MinceR: What Russia wants is influence over the region. But not at all costs.
02:08 DaemonFC; $7.50 for an Earl Grey latte.
02:08 TR News; Brent's Betrayal | #LINUXUnplugged 445 https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8009
02:08 DaemonFC; You can make a 16 ounce Earl Grey latte at home for approximately 55 cents or so.
02:09 DaemonFC; Two teabags, a little steamed/foamed milk, four pumps vanilla syrup, and some sugar or whatever your preferred sweetener is.
02:10 DaemonFC; I assume 55 cents based on oat milk, which is a bit more than regular milk.
02:10 DaemonFC; So 50-55 cents. In other words, you could make about 15 of these things at home before you spent as much as one costs at Starbucks, post-tax.
02:10 DaemonFC; Teas are even more scandalous on the margin than coffee is.
02:11 XRevan86; MinceR: If Russia thinks it can get away with something without an economical equivalent of a nuke used against it, it might do it.
02:11 DaemonFC; Because teas are cheaper input than coffee is.
02:11 XRevan86; MinceR: That's the "window of opportunity" that keeps me up at night.
02:12 DaemonFC; But you're also talking about store costs, utilities, the guy making $20 an hour in compensation that thinks a union taking $30 a month will do something for him.
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02:13 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: what people would do to 'signal' their PERCEIVED class
02:13 schestowitz-TR; I saw people who leave food on their plate
02:13 schestowitz-TR; or won't finish their drink
02:13 XRevan86; So it's not going to be about all-out war with NATO, but it is a question of whether there would be retaliation.
02:13 schestowitz-TR; to me: food waste. "BASTARD!'
02:13 schestowitz-TR; To them: look at me, I have so much money to spare
02:13 schestowitz-TR; starving africa kid: WTF??
02:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I'm capable of putting a frozen breakfast sandwich in the air fryer and making a cup of coffee.
02:13 DaemonFC; It's basically the same thing really.
02:14 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: russia is quite self-sufficient
02:14 schestowitz-TR; and that makes it harder to sanction for real response
02:14 schestowitz-TR; unlike with iran
02:15 schestowitz-TR; suffocating iran has been a lot easier
02:15 schestowitz-TR; but then iran turned to russia and china
02:15 schestowitz-TR; then trumpland started kidnapping chinese people
02:15 schestowitz-TR; in canada!
02:15 XRevan86; schestowitz: Russia is not self-sufficient.
02:15 DaemonFC; When people say "You're broke, but you're going to Starbucks?" it doesn't literally mean stop going there and you'll be rich.
02:15 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: relatively speaking
02:15 MinceR; maybe putler's expectation is that slowly the NATO will yield everything to him
02:16 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: you cannot afford ip[hone, but you pay in INSTALLMENTS
02:16 DaemonFC; What it does do is act as a shorthand for "You're probably doing 50 things every day that all waste some money. Quit doing that!".
02:16 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: like the young girl who pays a $2000 handbag hoping to find some famous sports person
02:16 XRevan86; schestowitz: Again, the thing is that the Russian elite doesn't really do Russia.
02:16 schestowitz-TR; or some businessman who can actually afford that handbag
02:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Mandy was deflated when I swapped the battery on his current iPhone SE for $50 instead of buying him a new iPhone.
02:16 schestowitz-TR; usually it doesn't work out like that at the end
02:17 DaemonFC; I told him "There's going to be two new models out before this one doesn't work anymore.".
02:17 schestowitz-TR; but the 'insecurity industry' (so-called fahion so-called industry) tkes advanctage of it
02:17 DaemonFC; "Why do you want to blow the wad buying the exact same thing you have now?".
02:17 DaemonFC; It's an example of dumb behavior with money.
02:17 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Is it true that the Usonians cannot live without iMessage?
02:18 schestowitz-TR; yeah
02:18 schestowitz-TR; esp. with people never poroperly edcuicated about it
02:18 DaemonFC; He looks Asian, but I swear he must be my cousin's long lost brother from another mother. :P
02:18 schestowitz-TR; thinking money grows on trees or comes from "credit" card
02:18 schestowitz-TR; like magic
02:18 DaemonFC; She's getting sued for putting Starbucks every day on a Credit One bank card and then notpaying the card.
02:19 DaemonFC; Who knew that some day three years later, they sue you and introduce that into public court records?
02:19 schestowitz-TR; lattesoft
02:19 schestowitz-TR; you know the starbucks-gatesd connection, right?
02:19 schestowitz-TR; very closely connected
02:19 schestowitz-TR; *gates
02:19 schestowitz-TR; it's like coffeesoft
02:19 schestowitz-TR; overselling crap to people
02:19 schestowitz-TR; and dominating the supply
02:19 schestowitz-TR; except people who go there often bring mac
02:19 schestowitz-TR; it's about branding
02:20 schestowitz-TR; with microsoft it's abouyt streong-arming OEMs
02:20 XRevan86; schestowitz: Even dictators don't actually have absolute power, they have their power granted to them by powerful people.
02:20 schestowitz-TR; and kept poiwer as long as those people consented
02:20 schestowitz-TR; that's why Trump got 'replaced'
02:20 XRevan86; And the implication is that even an absolute monarch can't go against the interests of the "elite".
02:20 schestowitz-TR; he lost the support from the rich fascist class
02:20 schestowitz-TR; fell out of grace
02:21 schestowitz-TR; same in EPO BTW
02:21 schestowitz-TR; that's why Battiostelli was removed
02:21 XRevan86; And the interests of the Russian "elite" are in the UK, in Italy, in Germany
02:21 schestowitz-TR; and we're meant to their their new front man is some king man from portugal
02:21 schestowitz-TR; a fraud
02:21 XRevan86; Sometimes even in Greece.
02:21 schestowitz-TR; Cyprus
02:21 schestowitz-TR; Malta
02:21 MinceR; i thought vladolf had the means to control every member of that alleged elite
02:21 schestowitz-TR; where the sun shines
02:22 schestowitz-TR; I also met Russians in Turkey
02:22 MinceR; :>
02:22 schestowitz-TR; "RUSHAN!!!! THEY EVERYWHERE!!!!!!"
02:23 XRevan86; MinceR: How much control would he have after attempting to take everything from them? Including their children.
02:23 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> DaemonFC: Is it true that the Usonians cannot live without iMessage?
02:23 DaemonFC; SMS works okay.
02:23 schestowitz-TR; while it still works ;-)
02:23 schestowitz-TR; kids now do not know how to type with 1=abc
02:24 DaemonFC; I wouldn't switch to an iPhone just so they can send me more emojis and I can be a blue bubble on their phone instead of a green one.
02:24 schestowitz-TR; 2=dfe
02:24 schestowitz-TR; that used to be a "skill"
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02:24 schestowitz-TR; typing on a dumb keyboard where one finger does like 2-3 times as many keystrokes as there are letters!
02:24 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> you know the starbucks-gatesd connection, right?
02:24 DaemonFC; All kinds of people sue my cousins, but the court computer shows they don't tend to collect.
02:24 XRevan86; MinceR: Also from all of them at once.
02:25 MinceR; XRevan86: dunno
02:25 MinceR; XRevan86: i also don't know if they're fundie christians too
02:25 MinceR; "don't worry, you and your family are all going to heaven!"
02:25 TR News; Review: S#lackware Linux 15.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161430 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:25 TR Bot; Review: Slackware Linux 15.0 | Tux Machines
02:26 DaemonFC; One of them is on her way to bankruptcy court for the third time.
02:26 XRevan86; MinceR: They're decadent as heck, so what do ye think?
02:26 DaemonFC; It's always Starbucks and trips to Florida, and oh yeah I got a storage unit for a bunch of crap and then didn't pay rent on it.
02:26 TR News; #SimonSharwood has turned it into prose/clickbait http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161421#comment-32820 #linux #kernel
02:26 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc4 | Tux Machines
02:27 schestowitz-TR; Starbucks: we let you pay for our ambiance
02:27 DaemonFC; For the most part, bankruptcy law really does let idiots get out of responsibility for anything.
02:27 schestowitz-TR; with cheap, cheesy furniture
02:27 schestowitz-TR; and 'free' wi-fi
02:27 schestowitz-TR; that spies on you
02:27 schestowitz-TR; for 'free'
02:27 DaemonFC; But banks are okay with it because few do it and the idea that it's out there encourages people to borrow too much, and then most of them keep paying long after they shouldn't.
02:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Starbucks is classy.
02:28 schestowitz; "
02:28 schestowitz; Hello schestowitz,
02:28 schestowitz; Codeberg is now more than three years online - an exciting time for all of us. Thank you for being with us in this journey.
02:28 schestowitz; In these three years, we saw a lot of awesome content, but also some awful things we'd rather not have on our platform.
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02:28 DaemonFC; So classy that the ghetto malls all have them.
02:28 schestowitz; "
02:28 schestowitz; I have a friend who used to drag me there
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02:28 schestowitz; he's very class-conscious
02:28 schestowitz; unlike rianne and I
02:28 schestowitz; and he's the sort of people who does not finish the drink of clear the plate
02:29 schestowitz; like that's going to leave a positive impression on someone
02:29 schestowitz; I told him I'd rather go to a dining place which supports the locals
02:29 DaemonFC; Yeah, if I have two pair of pants that fit and a week's worth of t-shirts, I'm good.
02:29 schestowitz; so no more GatesBucks
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02:29 DaemonFC; I don't know how anyone thinks an accumulation of crap is going to do them any good.
02:30 schestowitz; > Roy : and and for Santa Battistelli!
02:30 kingoffrance; "don't worry, you and your family are all going to heaven!" you'll never fully appreciate the idiocy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Year#/media/File:North_pole_path.png dont worry, you are all going back 4000 years to "lamb of god", with "7 heavens" this means 7th or 14th layer of hell lol
02:30 TR Bot; Great Year - Wikipedia
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02:31 schestowitz; > Here an automated translation of the French document, provided by Deepl. I must admit DeepL translation are impressive.
02:31 schestowitz; Thanks,. I am going to add that to the post.
02:32 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> and he's the sort of people who does not finish the drink of clear the plate
02:32 kingoffrance; the bible never bothered with aquarius, but that never stops anyone
02:32 DaemonFC; I can make sandwiches and coffee easily.
02:32 DaemonFC; Mandy is fine with sandwiches for dinner as long as they're hot sandwiches.
02:32 DaemonFC; The air fryer can do that in about ten minutes.
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02:39 TR News; "Of course, it's a lot harder to fire people there than it is people who put a tea bag in hot water." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130222.html#tFeb%2013%2021:00:59
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-130222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-130222.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022
02:40 TR News; Windows users moving to #gnu #linux and ask for suggestions... "thank you for your answer, about Thunderbird" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-130222.html#tFeb%2013%2013:38:18
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-13.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:42 TR News; "I erased all #Microsoft software from my system with a reinstall" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130222.html#tFeb%2013%2023:27:30
02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022
02:45 TR News; Have "Microsoft loves Linux" day. Let's hope it works out better than the story with the snake....
02:47 TR News; Sunday Alice's Point https://assets.amuniversal.com/157fad1054c5013a9170005056a9545d #dilbert
02:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/srvpk3/ibm_executives_called_older_workers_dinobabies/
02:47 TR Bot; IBM executives called older workers 'dinobabies' who should be 'extinct' in internal emails released in age discrimination lawsuit : LateStageCapitalism
02:48 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2
02:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2
02:48 TR Bot; IBM Execs Call Older Workers 'Dinobabies' in Age Bias Lawsuit
02:48 TR News; Note to self: recording a 3-hour video will mean at least 6 hours of encoding afterwards, plus upload time for like half a GB (over copper lines). So when recording assume it'll go live about half a day later. Massive overhead.
02:49 TR News; What #ibm calls "experience" (means EXPERIENCED) workers https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
02:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
02:49 TR Bot; IBM Execs Call Older Workers 'Dinobabies' in Age Bias Lawsuit
02:49 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: same IBM that accused RMS of "ableism"
02:49 schestowitz-TR; guess who have "ageism"...
02:49 schestowitz-TR; IBM
02:49 schestowitz-TR; maybe they should "euthanise" this "burden on socety"
02:50 TR News; What #ibm calls "expensive" (means EXPERIENCED) workers https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
02:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T
02:50 TR News; Many #IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/
02:51 TR Bot; Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights
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02:52 TR News; FTR: #microsoft is worse than #ibm http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/
02:52 TR Bot; Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Dont Ask for Raises | Techrights
02:52 TR News; What #IBM Does Not Want You to Watch Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/
02:53 TR Bot; What IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights
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03:13 AdmFubar1; https://www.amazon.com/Big-Blue-IBMs-Abuse-Power/dp/0396085156
03:13 TR Bot; Blue: IBM's Use and Abuse of Power: Delamarter, Richard T.: 9780396085157: Amazon.com: Books
03:14 AdmFubar1; read the reviews
03:19 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 199948 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39298 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 6 days ago
03:20 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 38 GB TotalOut: 37 GB
03:21 MinceR; so how is MICROS~1 doing with the consent decrees?
03:21 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:28 TR News; "But we who have seen the #Microsoft case essentially dropped know how that all works." https://www.amazon.com/Big-Blue-IBMs-Abuse-Power/dp/0396085156 see http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/ #ibm #history
03:29 TR Bot; Real History of Microsoft and How It Became Successful | Techrights
03:30 IPFS; QmT6UzkVGBqiGJqW9tNXHnJ2F7GjgkFTQ1tvxxFeYF4VH3
03:30 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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03:48 schestowitz; http://www.thomas-pr.com/19/ces08/ces0821.html
03:48 TR Bot; Party Photos!
03:48 schestowitz; "Michael Larabel, Phoronix.com; Jason Jacobs, Techwarelabs.com, David Lin, Phoronix & Ramsom Koay at Futurelooks Party'
03:51 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/319194199947870208
03:51 TR Bot; YES!!!!!! CONFIRMED: #AMD will announce #UVD going open source tomorrow!!!! Will be exposed over #VDPAU. More details on @phoronix soon
03:54 DaemonFC; Walmart is having problems stocking their shelves again.
03:55 DaemonFC; This time I had to slip into the back room and grab oat milk because there was nobody there and a full box on the bin.
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03:55 DaemonFC; And there's barely any toothpaste.
03:56 DaemonFC; Luckily, I grabbed 9 more tubes of toothpaste while it was on an iBotta rebate last month.
03:56 DaemonFC; So we're good for a while.
03:57 DaemonFC; The only stuff that hasn't been wiped out is the $6 a tube crap. :/
03:57 DaemonFC; Who the hell would pay $6 a tube? Unless you're just out and that's all that anyone has, I guess?
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03:58 DaemonFC; I noticed there were a lot of brands taking the opportunity to use COVID to discontinue their bargain brands to leave people with no other choice.
03:58 DaemonFC; The end of 88 cent toothpaste?
04:00 schestowitz-TR; we have it cheaper here
04:01 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: aldi also has some empty shelves sometimes
04:01 schestowitz-TR; not sure what's to blame
04:01 schestowitz-TR; truckers who rebel
04:01 schestowitz-TR; people stockpiling
04:01 schestowitz-TR; "supply chains"
04:01 schestowitz-TR; brexit
04:01 schestowitz-TR; covid
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04:01 schestowitz-TR; I doubt dovid is directly to blame
04:09 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, February 13, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:09 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:09 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:09 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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04:11 TR News; Finally, after 7 hours, my 3-hour video is done re-encoding. Now ETA 5 hours for upload to complete.
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04:18 TR News; "Maimane said there had been a systemic failure to create jobs through inclusive economic growth and a modernised basic education system." https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/politics/3015339/banning-foreigners-is-scapegoating-that-goes-against-ubuntu-says-maimane/ #southafrica #africa #racism #nationalism #xenophobia
04:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: citizen.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/politics/3015339/banning-foreigners-is-scapegoating-that-goes-against-ubuntu-says-maimane/
04:18 TR Bot; Banning foreigners is scapegoating that goes against ubuntu - Maimane
04:24 TR News; SMYLES - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) [Official Audio] - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WYpjUEPbL-o #video #invidious
04:24 TR Bot; SMYLES - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) [Official Audio] - Invidious
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05:01 AdmFubar1; https://www.databreaches.net/cydia-dev-discloses-ethereum-l2-bug-optimism-attacker-could-have-printed-an-arbitrary-quantity-of-tokens/
05:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/cydia-dev-discloses-ethereum-l2-bug-optimism-attacker-could-have-printed-an-arbitrary-quantity-of-tokens/
05:01 TR Bot; Cydia Dev Discloses Ethereum L2 Bug Optimism Attacker Could Have Printed an Arbitrary Quantity of Tokens
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05:04 AdmFubar1; https://www.pogowasright.org/twitter-cans-2fa-service-provider-over-surveillance-claims/
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05:04 TR Bot; Twitter cans 2FA service provider over surveillance claims
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05:49 -glguy/Wallops-Hi. We'll be doing a bit of maintenance shortly. We'll be restarting silver, lead, and palladium, and then rerouting which will briefly affect a small portion of the network. I don't anticipate any of the tasks will take too long. The Tor onion service might take a couple minutes to advertise itself.
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06:04 -A_Dragon/Wallops-And that completes our server juggling for today! Have a lovely monday (or try to, anyway)
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06:36 DaemonFC; https://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-time
06:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-time
06:36 TR Bot; Biggest Software Flops of All Time | PCMag
06:36 DaemonFC; "Still, many of the components from GNU were moved over to create the Linux operating system."
06:36 DaemonFC; LOL
06:38 DaemonFC; "Meanwhile, Netscape had released the core of its browser as open source, which would eventually become Firefox. That didn't help it get a new version out, though, and when it finally shipped in November 2000, Navigator 6.0 (they skipped 5.0 in the interim) was a bloated, buggy mess that didn't even run on midrange PCs of the time."
06:38 DaemonFC; It ran okay on a budget PC from 1998 that I had.
06:38 DaemonFC; It just took a while to load.
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06:57 kingoffrance; https://gigamonkeys.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/a-tale-of-two-rewrites/
06:57 TR Bot; Duct tape context: A tale of tworewrites | A billion monkeys can't be wrong
06:58 kingoffrance; Well, it was decisions like not using C++ and not using threads that made us ship the product on time. The other big thing was we always shipped all platforms simultaneously; that was another thing they thought was just stupid. Oh, 90 percent of people are using Windows, so well focus on the Windows side of things and then well port it later.
06:59 kingoffrance; If Zawinskis recollection is accurate and the 4.0 rewrite had really replaced all the old code, then the fact the Mozilla project felt compelled to do a big rewrite is only evidence of what a mess the first rewrite had made of things and says nothing about the quality of the pre-4.0 code.
07:00 kingoffrance; So the 3.0 that they had begun working on became 4.0 which, as you know, is one of the biggest software disasters there has ever been. It basically killed the company. It took a long time to die, but that was it:
07:01 kingoffrance; so the 6.0 was due to windows and c++
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07:01 kingoffrance; it just took a while to fester and boil
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07:13 kingoffrance; the irony maybe is now it is modern to do "separate processes"
07:18 DaemonFC; The Netscape 4 series was unlikely to be all new code.
07:18 DaemonFC; 1. Why would you throw away working code? 2. Most of the bugs in Netscape 3 carried over, and were added to.
07:19 DaemonFC; bbl
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07:27 kingoffrance; it doesnt say it was new code, it implies it was replaced
07:27 kingoffrance; eventually replacing all
07:27 kingoffrance; RIIR
07:30 kingoffrance; https://github.com/ansuz/RIIR/issues/
07:30 TR Bot; ansuz/RIIR GitHub
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07:37 psydroid2; RIIF as a business model to keep the lights on
07:37 psydroid2; F for Fancylang
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08:46 activelow; often, compiler features and extensions, in conjunction with standard libraries ones, are confused with language features
08:47 activelow; meaning, save programming is possible with C, because it is compiler/stdlib extensions required
08:47 activelow; the benefit of rust-lang, if any, is it's implemented as a language frontend on bleeding-edge compiler: llvm
08:48 activelow; yet, llvm has the same problem as gcc: it's slow and inefficient in comparison to traditional *nix C compilers
08:48 activelow; besides, TinyCC for example implements a "bounds-checker" to add runtime-diagnostics/forensics, to catch violations
08:49 activelow; difference here, there's no corporate intereste behind (IBM Wintel, Apple, etc)
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08:50 activelow; and it's particularly interesting to those who develop and work with a computer, and not play with it
08:50 activelow; while this is where the money is made: with pseudo tech "journalism" presenting rubbish "benchmarks", sell video games and power-hungry electronics
08:51 activelow; somehow, that's the irony, with GNU/Linux and other foss projects, claiming there wasn't any AT&T code remaining
08:52 activelow; when it was the big fishes, Microsoft, IBM/Wintel, Telco who pushed c++ aggressively, into realms where it didn't belong
08:54 TR News; NEWS #Raphael Writing Your Own Sudo https://rtpg.co/2022/02/13/your-own-sudo.html
08:54 TR Bot; Writing Your Own Sudo
08:55 TR News; NEWS #Ubuntu Low latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part I https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems
08:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems
08:55 TR Bot; latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part I | Ubuntu
08:55 TR News; NEWS #Ubuntu Low latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part II https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems-ii
08:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems-ii
08:55 TR Bot; latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part II | Ubuntu
08:57 TR News; [Old] #Crypto choosing safe curves for elliptic-curve cryptography https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/
08:57 TR Bot; SafeCurves: Introduction
09:02 TR News; NEWS #CNN Owl photos are flooding the #internet (or #web rather) ahead of the Super Bowl. Here's why https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/us/superb-owl-meme-super-bowl-scn/index.html
09:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/us/superb-owl-meme-super-bowl-scn/index.html
09:02 TR Bot; Superb Owl meme: The spelling error that turned into a meme - CNN
09:03 kingoffrance; thats a good observation ...and why single-dimensional "rivalries" always obscure things
09:06 activelow; it's an epic knee-jerk, if you think about it: leading compilers such as gcc and llvm cannot be bootstrapped anymore with a traditional *nix C compiler
09:06 activelow; gcc-4.7 was the last one confirmed with TinyCC
09:08 activelow; anyhow, thinking about it, what professional telco management, what i was educated for, is worth nowadays: nothing
09:08 activelow; i departed 2005
09:08 activelow; thats more than a decade of clusterfuck now
09:10 *activelow listening to death metal
09:14 TR News; NEWS #Reason #Censorship The #HeritageFoundation Wants To Break the #Internet https://reason.com/2022/02/10/the-heritage-foundation-wants-to-break-the-internet/
09:14 TR Bot; The Heritage Foundation Wants To Break the Internet
09:17 kingoffrance; i saw in another channel another at&t thing http://web.archive.org/web/20041227143022/http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/mam/mam.html basically you can generate "old makefiles" for ancient things, "modern" .......or whittle it down to variables and commands (any shell ever...could output dos batch file if you wanted, or some obscure ancient mainframe os)
09:17 TR Bot; /home/gsf/doc/mam94/mam.mm mm document
09:18 kingoffrance; its meant more for a "bootstrap" i think
09:21 TR News; NEWS #NewZealandHerald #Megaupload David Fisher: 10 years of Megaupload, 10 things we learned https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-fisher-10-years-of-megaupload-heres-10-things-we-learned-and-a-few-we-did-not/4QCNTD7B63PCC23SU2OZQNLBEQ/
09:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nzherald.co.nz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-fisher-10-years-of-megaupload-heres-10-things-we-learned-and-a-few-we-did-not/4QCNTD7B63PCC23SU2OZQNLBEQ/
09:21 TR Bot; David Fisher: 10 years of Megaupload, 10 things we learned - NZ Herald
09:22 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Rightsholders See #Iraq as a 'Corrupt' Hotbed for #Sharing , Ask the U.S. to Step In https://torrentfreak.com/rightsholders-see-iraq-as-a-corrupt-hotbed-for-online-piracy-ask-the-u-s-to-step-in-220213/
09:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/rightsholders-see-iraq-as-a-corrupt-hotbed-for-online-piracy-ask-the-u-s-to-step-in-220213/
09:22 TR Bot; See Iraq as a 'Corrupt' Hotbed for Online Piracy, Ask the U.S. to Step In * TorrentFreak
09:22 activelow; "For Whom The Bell Tolls"
09:22 activelow; "Take a look to the sky just before you die
09:22 activelow; It's the last time you will"
09:22 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ACE Seize #IPTV Domains, Press #Clownflare to Hand Over Identitities https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-seize-pirate-iptv-domains-press-cloudflare-to-hand-over-identitities-220213/
09:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-seize-pirate-iptv-domains-press-cloudflare-to-hand-over-identitities-220213/
09:22 TR Bot; Seize Pirate IPTV Domains, Press Cloudflare to Hand Over Identitities * TorrentFreak
09:27 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 13, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/irc-log-130222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/irc-log-130222/
09:27 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 13, 2022 | Techrights
09:49 TR News; When It Comes to Patents, Lies Have Become the 'Norm' http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/ #patents #epo #misinformation #googlenews #gulagnoise
09:49 TR Bot; When It Comes to Patents, Lies Have Become the Norm | Techrights
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10:17 TR News; [Meme] Asking the Newsman for Information Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ #patents #epo #misinformation #googlenews #gulagnoise | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/
10:17 TR Bot; [Meme] Asking the Newsman for Information | Techrights
10:20 TR News; #ibm #redhat uses hugely corrupt #gartner (probably corrupted by IBM too, not just #microsoft and Oracle etc.) as a source https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/it-leadership-how-recognize-and-manage-change-fatigue #gartnergroup http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
10:20 TR Bot; IT leadership: How to recognize and manage change fatigue | The Enterprisers Project
10:21 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
10:21 TR News; How I configure Vim as my default editor on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/configure-vim-default-editor #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
10:21 TR Bot; I configure Vim as my default editor on Linux | Opensource.com
10:28 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams Arrests at US-Canada Border Finally Bring End to Anti-[Mandate] Blockade https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/13/arrests-us-canada-border-finally-bring-end-anti-vax-blockade Mandate opposers are NOT "anti-vaxx"; SOME might be, but CommonDreams now openly participates in a malicious smear campaign that helps a sinister #patent pool
10:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/13/arrests-us-canada-border-finally-bring-end-anti-vax-blockade
10:28 TR Bot; Arrests at US-Canada Border Finally Bring End to Anti-Vax Blockade
10:34 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161431 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:34 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:40 TR News; old: A rant about #odysee and #lbry https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-rant-about-odysee-and-lbry:1 #rossmanngroup
10:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-rant-about-odysee-and-lbry:1
10:40 TR Bot; rant about odysee and lbry
10:42 TR News; SparkFun ALC - FAQ - La Carte - #SparkFun Electronics https://alc.sparkfun.com/faq
10:42 TR Bot; SparkFun ALC - FAQ - La Carte - SparkFun Electronics
10:43 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Audition Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161432 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:43 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Audition | Tux Machines
10:45 TR News; Round color LCD board comes in Raspberry Pi RP2040 or ESP8266 flavor (Crowdfunding) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161433 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:45 TR Bot; Round color LCD board comes in Raspberry Pi RP2040 or ESP8266 flavor (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines
10:49 TR News; "Apple should open source the unknown AirTag detection mechanism." https://social.linux.pizza/@oklomsy/107781295183366216 #apple #surveillance #NSA #PRISM #liars
10:49 TR Bot; Oklomsy: "Apple should open source the unknown AirTag detec" - Linux.Pizza
10:49 TR News; Background: The tug-of-war over the transfer of personal data between the #EU and the US https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/02/10/bakgrund-dragkampen-om-overforing-av-persondata-mellan-eu-och-usa/
10:49 TR Bot; Bakgrund: Dragkampen om verfring av persondata mellan EU och USA
10:50 TR News; "Wow, lots of Windows techs on Facebook these days. Point out any of the major, fundamental failings of any Microsoft software these days, and these guys (bots perhaps?) jump all over you." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107787168233712300 http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing
10:50 TR Bot; Dave Lane: "Wow, lots of Windows techs on Facebook these days" - Mastodon - NZOSS
10:50 TR Bot; AstroTurfing - Techrights
10:51 TR News; "I guess they think that if people start believing what people like me are telling them, then the #Microsoft gravy train (on whose margins these guys are eking out an existence) might scream to a stop." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107787168233712300 http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing
10:53 TR News; 50
10:53 TR News; "many people are quitting #redhat these days" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120222.html#tFeb%2012%2002:07:50
10:53 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 12, 2022
10:54 TR News; "if i could turn the planet into the Zone where we could all be S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S. i would." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120222.html#tFeb%2012%2000:24:51 #Stalker https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079944/
10:54 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 12, 2022
10:54 TR Bot; (1979) - IMDb
10:56 TR News; Meet Over Lunch https://assets.amuniversal.com/4b399eb06a70013a9689005056a9545d #dilbert
11:01 TR News; "Linux distributions such as Ubuntu or Arch Linux Arm on the Google Tensor-powered phone, and do so at near-native speed." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/14/android-13-virtualization-lets-pixel-6-run-windows-11-linux-distributions/
11:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/14/android-13-virtualization-lets-pixel-6-run-windows-11-linux-distributions/
11:01 TR Bot; Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Linux distributions - CNX Software
11:02 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161434 #Linux #TuxMachines
11:02 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
11:09 TR News; I wish to humbly and respectfully share my experiences which have been rather consistent this past year or two; due to the incredible amount of #misinformation Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/ #Techrights #patents #epo #corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/
11:10 TR News; The "lies are truth" attitude has been greatly amplified and reinforced by the Web, more so with dominant search engines that have vested interests and a stake in the outcome Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ #Techrights #gulag #patents #epo #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/
11:11 TR News; Function Granular #KASLR https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220209185752.1226407-1-alexandr.lobakin@intel.com/ #linux #kernel
11:11 TR Bot; [PATCH v10 00/15] Function Granular KASLR - Alexander Lobakin
11:12 TR News; #v3dv : Status Update for Open Source #Vulkan Driver for #RaspberryPi 4 https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/v3dv/
11:12 TR Bot; FOSDEM 2022 - v3dv: Status Update for Open Source Vulkan Driver for Raspberry Pi 4
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12:19 bnchs; i wish this server had a message recap like tilde.chat
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12:54 schestowitz-TR; what is that?
12:54 schestowitz-TR; scroll up?
12:54 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/
12:54 TR Bot; Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) | Techrights
12:55 schestowitz; simplest way: /history #techrights 1h
12:56 TR News; KDEs Dolphin File Manager Finally Brings Root File Operations. Heres #HowTo Use Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161435 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
12:56 TR Bot; KDE's Dolphin File Manager Finally Brings Root File Operations. Here's How to Use | Tux Machines
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13:12 schestowitz-TR; hi tgraswe
13:14 TR News; About to post long video about #JoinDiaspora
13:17 tgraswe; hi
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13:30 TR News; Comments to the TRAI for the, "Consultation Paper on Regulatory Framework for Promoting Data Economy Through Establishment of Data Centres, Content Delivery Networks, and Interconnect Exchanges" https://internetfreedom.in/trai-cdn-consultation/ #india #in
13:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/trai-cdn-consultation/
13:30 TR Bot; Comments to the TRAI for the, "Consultation Paper on Regulatory Framework for Promoting Data Economy Through Establishment of Data Centres, Content Delivery Networks, and Interconnect Exchanges"
13:32 TR News; Proprietary vs proprietary vs proprietary https://www.laptopmag.com/features/bye-microsoft-edge-vivaldi-is-the-best-chrome-alternative
13:32 TR Bot; Bye Microsoft Edge! Vivaldi is the best Chrome alternative | Laptop Mag
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13:34 TR News; #phoronix helped spread #linux FUD against #GNULinux performance by testing something before it's even finalised (crude code) and now wants traffic for the 'correction' too https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-no-longer-the-fastest-OS-for-Alder-Lake-Linux-5-16-on-Core-i9-12900K-emerges-winner-in-most-benchmarks.598744.0.html see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
13:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-no-longer-the-fastest-OS-for-Alder-Lake-Linux-5-16-on-Core-i9-12900K-emerges-winner-in-most-benchmarks.598744.0.html
13:34 TR Bot; 11 no longer the fastest OS for Alder Lake: Linux 5.16 on Core i9-12900K emerges winner in most benchmarks - NotebookCheck.net News
13:34 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
13:36 TR News; "Fedora gave me the opportunity to learn more about the Linux distro. Now I make applications for the Linux Fedora operating system. I'm sure with a little research I'll be able to package for other Linux distros" https://vanessa-kris.github.io/career-opportunities.html #deletegithub
13:36 TR Bot; Vanessa's Blog | Career Opportunities
13:40 TR News; #arcolinux oughtn't outsource to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (that itself merits a bug report) https://arcolinux.com/use-envycontrol-to-switch-between-intel-amd-and-your-nvidia-graphical-card/
13:40 TR Bot; envycontrol to switch between intel/amd and your nvidia graphical card | ArcoLinux
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13:50 TR News; Talks and Slides by #Collabora at #FOSDEM 2022 - Collabora Office and Collabora Online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161436 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:50 TR Bot; Talks and Slides by Collabora at FOSDEM 2022 - Collabora Office and Collabora Online | Tux Machines
13:52 TR News; #KodachiLinux 8.15 is out https://www.digi77.com/ #oman #gnu #linux #security
13:52 TR Bot; Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization | Stay Secured, Stay Assured
13:56 TR News; Michel is now in #geminiSpace gemini://tilde.team/~michel/ see gemini://tilde.team/~michel/2022-02-10-lagrange-gemini-fedora.gmi "my first thought was -- this is good enough it could entice new people to Gemini."
13:56 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161437 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:56 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
13:58 TR News; "Ive covered a couple of web vulnerabilities that (mostly) arent, and now its time for a Windows specific one. A common finding from build reviews and CIS comparisons: unquoted spaces in service or run paths." https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/vulnerabilities-that-arent-unquoted-spaces/ http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
13:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/vulnerabilities-that-arent-unquoted-spaces/
13:58 TR Bot; Vulnerabilities that arent. Unquoted Spaces | Pen Test Partners
13:58 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
14:02 TR News; #vmware campaign of hate and FUD against #linux carries on http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/
14:02 TR Bot; Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against Linux (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | Techrights
14:02 TR News; #vmware campaign of hate and FUD against #linux carries on http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32821 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/
14:02 TR Bot; VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines
14:04 TR News; "I am very happy to report that a new version of the #VLC #bittorrent plugin was just uploaded into #debian . The changes since last time is mostly code clean in the download code. The package is currently in Debian unstable, but should be available in Debian testing son." http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Updated_vlc_bittorrent_plugin_in_Debian__version_2_14_.html
↺ http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Updated_vlc_bittorrent_plugin_in_Debian__version_2_14_.html
14:04 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: Updated vlc bittorrent plugin in Debian (version 2.14)
14:15 TR News; #KaliLinux : The Most Accessible Distro on The Planet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161438 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:15 TR Bot; Kali Linux: The Most Accessible Distro on The Planet | Tux Machines
14:15 TR News; #KDE s Latest Move Will Help Raspberry Pi and PinePhone Pro Users Immensely Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161439 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:15 TR Bot; KDE's Latest Move Will Help Raspberry Pi and PinePhone Pro Users Immensely | Tux Machines
14:21 bnchs; reading C++ templates are like shit to my eyes
14:25 psydroid2; not to mention error messages with many lines of indecipherable garbage
14:30 TR News; Some good news, so I've decided to summarise what the situation seems to be: No Need for a #Diaspora Away From #JoinDiaspora , as the Pod Looks Like It'll Survive After All http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/joindiaspora-new-lease-of-life/ #federation #freesw @glynmoody
14:30 TR Bot; No Need for a Diaspora Away From JoinDiaspora, as the Pod Looks Like Itll Survive After All | Techrights
14:31 schestowitz; AMD again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PowerTOP-ThinkPad-Ryzen-5000
14:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PowerTOP-ThinkPad-Ryzen-5000
14:31 TR Bot; - Is PowerTOP Tuning Worthwhile For Modern AMD Linux Laptops? - Phoronix
14:32 schestowitz; just AMD?
14:33 TR News; Low latency #Linux for industrial embedded systems - Part III | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/industrial-embedded-systems-iii #ubuntu #kernel
14:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/industrial-embedded-systems-iii
14:33 TR Bot; latency Linux for industrial embedded systems Part III | Ubuntu
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14:34 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/egg-slut.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/09/quit-food-shaming/ )
14:34 TR Bot; Quit food shaming!
14:37 TR News; Theres technical work/discussion and apparently advanced diplomacy/negotiation underway to pass #JoinDiaspora to new hands, giving this very important pod (over 316,000 registered users; the video erroneously says 316) a new lease of life http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/joindiaspora-new-lease-of-life/
14:41 TR News; "A biographical adventure set on an island like no other, Welcome to Elk from developer Triple Topping has a new update available that aims to make the experience on Linux with Steam Play Proton and the Steam Deck better." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/welcome-to-elk-readies-up-for-the-steam-deck-and-proton/
14:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/welcome-to-elk-readies-up-for-the-steam-deck-and-proton/
14:41 TR Bot; to Elk readies up for the Steam Deck and Proton | GamingOnLinux
14:42 TR News; "Running it on #GNU #Linux is easy." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/doom-shinobi-is-my-new-favourite-gzdoom-mod/
14:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/doom-shinobi-is-my-new-favourite-gzdoom-mod/
14:42 TR Bot; Shinobi is my new favourite GZDoom mod | GamingOnLinux
14:43 TR News; "Vulkan post-processing layer #vkBasalt allows #Linux #gamers to run various visual enhancement features, along with support for running various Reshade Fx shaders." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/vulkan-post-processing-layer-vkbasalt-gets-a-few-tweaks-in-v0325/
14:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/vulkan-post-processing-layer-vkbasalt-gets-a-few-tweaks-in-v0325/
14:43 TR Bot; post-processing layer vkBasalt gets a few tweaks in v0.3.2.5 | GamingOnLinux
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14:48 TR News; #Games: Super Auto Pets, Welcome to Elk, Doom Shinobi, Friendship Games Week Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161440 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:48 TR Bot; Games: Super Auto Pets, Welcome to Elk, Doom Shinobi, Friendship Games Week | Tux Machines
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14:56 TR News; #PeppermintOS 11 Released: 6 New Features to Expect Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161441 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:56 TR Bot; Peppermint OS 11 Released: 6 New Features to Expect | Tux Machines
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15:07 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/large-area.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/i-just-happened-upon-this/ )
15:07 TR Bot; I just happened upon this
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15:10 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161442 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:10 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:10 TR News; Got to boot a #RasPi Zero 2 W with #Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161443 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:10 TR Bot; Got to boot a RPi Zero 2 W with Debian | Tux Machines
15:11 TR News; #Kernel : Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161444 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:11 TR Bot; Kernel: Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks | Tux Machines
15:12 TR News; Software: #VLC #Bittorrent Plugin and NCMPCPP Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161445 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:12 TR Bot; Software: VLC Bittorrent Plugin and NCMPCPP | Tux Machines
15:12 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161446 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:12 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
15:12 TR News; #Kile : An Interactive Cross-Platform #LaTeX Editor by KDE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161447 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:12 TR Bot; Kile: An Interactive Cross-Platform LaTeX Editor by KDE | Tux Machines
15:15 TR News; Links 14/2/2022: #KDE on ARM Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/kde-on-arm/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/kde-on-arm/
15:15 TR Bot; Links 14/2/2022: KDE on ARM | Techrights
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15:40 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-20.jpg
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16:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.42
16:11 TR News; #NanoPi router board updated with 8GB eMMC and a metal case Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161448 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:11 TR Bot; NanoPi router board updated with 8GB eMMC and a metal case | Tux Machines
16:12 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161449 #Linux #TuxMachines
16:12 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:24 TR News; Same #hp that 'settled' with #microsoft on offering #WSL (Windows) INSTEAD of "proper" #gnu #linux https://nitter.eu/fcassia/status/1493035965274894336 https://nitter.eu/fcassia/status/1493031338512900101 @fcassia
16:24 TR Bot; Fernando Cassia (@fcassia): "Dear @ubuntu can you tell @hp' s marketing that there is no such thing as "Ubuntu 2004" -which btw sounds decades old- but rather "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (2020)"? Thanks in advance. https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/tech-takes/z-by-hp-data-science-software #DataScience #HP #Linux #fail @schestowitz @zbyhp @cesarperezaznar @ConDri" | nitter
16:24 TR Bot; Fernando Cassia (@fcassia): "This is truly #horrible @HP Hiding your #Ubuntu #Linux recovery images, why? #zSeries #HpZ2 #z2G8 #Preloads #DataScience cc/@schestowitz" | nitter
16:26 schestowitz; AMD again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Completes-Xilinx-Deal
16:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Completes-Xilinx-Deal
16:26 TR Bot; Completes Its Acquisition Of Xilinx - Phoronix
16:28 XRevan86; The intrigue of the week is whether Russia will "recognise independence" of LDPR.
16:29 TR News; The 'Linux' Foundation continues shilling #Microsoft with #greenwashing ; this foundation actively hurts Linux https://www.rcrwireless.com/20220214/network-infrastructure/microsoft-linux-foundation-others-join-carbon-call see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ #zemlin is a #Fraud
16:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rcrwireless.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rcrwireless.com/20220214/network-infrastructure/microsoft-linux-foundation-others-join-carbon-call
16:29 TR Bot; Microsoft, Linux Foundation, others join Carbon Call - RCR Wireless News
16:29 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
16:30 TR News; The people who pushed to cancel RMS are falling on their sword. First, Bully de Blanc. Now, her boss: https://blog.halon.org.uk/2022/02/handing-over/
16:30 TR Bot; Handing over Liberal Murmurs
16:33 schestowitz-TR; just when I needed a subject for a video :-)
16:34 TR News; " #NVIDIA decided #Linux gamers need a little love on Valentines Day so they put up a small driver release for you." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/nvidia-fix-up-a-vulkan-problem-with-the-v51054-driver-release
16:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/nvidia-fix-up-a-vulkan-problem-with-the-v51054-driver-release
16:34 TR Bot; fix up a Vulkan problem with the v510.54 driver release | GamingOnLinux
16:34 schestowitz; Stormy Peters
16:34 schestowitz; Miguel de Icaza
16:34 schestowitz; who next?
16:34 schestowitz; Did Neil get a job offer from Microsoft?
16:35 schestowitz; ot: I keep seeing people who say Miguel de Icaza is gay (not that it matter), starting to wonder if that is true
16:35 schestowitz; *matters
16:37 TR News; "Prefer #GOG over other stores for their #DRMfree collection? It's Valentines Day and of course there's a sale. The We Love Games Sale is live until Monday, February 21st at 2 pm UTC. This sale features a number of big hitters, new releases and plenty of indie gems to look out for." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/
16:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/
16:37 TR Bot; puts up a We Love Games Sale with lots of good deals | GamingOnLinux
16:39 TR News; Linux Snatches Alder Lake Productivity Crown From Windows 11 | Tom's Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161444#comment-32822
16:39 TR Bot; Kernel: Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks | Tux Machines
16:39 TR News; #Linux tops Gulag's charts for fixing bugs the fastest - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/in_brief_security/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest
16:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/in_brief_security/
16:39 TR Bot; Linux tops Google's charts for fixing bugs the fastest The Register
16:39 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
16:40 TR News; Does #Linux need antivirus? https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/linux-antivirus-4209397 see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
16:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: trustedreviews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/linux-antivirus-4209397
16:40 TR Bot; Does Linux need antivirus? | Trusted Reviews
16:40 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
16:42 TR News; Introducing #Buildkite integration - Octopus Deploy https://octopus.com/blog/introducing-buildkite-integration #octopus | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest
16:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: octopus.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://octopus.com/blog/introducing-buildkite-integration
16:42 TR Bot; Buildkite integration - Octopus Deploy
16:43 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161450 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:43 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:45 TR News; More odor at #phoronix today and yesterday. Lots of #amd stories, mostly fluff. So sad a transition. Context: http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
16:45 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
16:56 psydroid2; Michael <3 AMD
16:56 psydroid2; Apalling Microlarabel Delusions
16:57 psydroid2; Appalling&
17:00 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/hotdisshes.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/more-bang-for-your-buck/ )
17:00 TR Bot; More bang for your buck.
17:23 TR News; #GNOMEFoundation is now without leadership http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
17:23 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights
17:24 TR News; #GNOMEFoundation is now without leadership http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
17:27 TR News; #AMD has a new spokesperson called Michael Larabel https://www.techradar.com/news/amds-linux-tweaks-pave-the-way-for-usb-4-in-ryzen-6000-laptops see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
17:27 TR Bot; Linux tweaks pave the way for USB 4 in Ryzen 6000 laptops | TechRadar
17:33 TR News; Random foods http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/hotdisshes.jpg
17:40 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161451 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:40 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
17:40 TR News; #nodrm https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/
17:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/
17:45 MinceR; https://i.redd.it/b80cqr7zu0o31.jpg
17:46 schestowitz; can't argue with that...
17:46 MinceR; i sort of can
17:46 schestowitz; smoking kills creatures that smoke
17:47 MinceR; a WMD that kills all life on Earth would kill humans too
17:47 MinceR; and yet it would not be good for the environment
17:47 schestowitz; depends on the WMD
17:47 schestowitz; a virus can also be WMD
17:47 schestowitz; on some lvel
17:47 schestowitz; and it can impact one particular species more than the rest
17:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.48
17:59 ebin; the link to the latest video from the index isn't working, it returns 404 http://techrights.org/videos/mcgovern-cannot-govern.webm
17:59 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/videos/mcgovern-cannot-govern.webm )
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18:14 bnchs; hello
18:14 schestowitz-TR; 0/
18:14 SomeH4x0r; hello
18:14 schestowitz-TR; wait, it is uploading
18:14 ebin; i will wait. thank you
18:15 schestowitz-TR; the script just check what's there
18:15 schestowitz-TR; even if in progres
18:15 ebin; it's good to know that sometimes some waiting is necessary
18:19 schestowitz-TR; te url works now, but the file is 1/3 complete
18:19 schestowitz-TR; the video is still processing while uploading in two phases
18:19 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747598.jpg
18:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747598.jpg
18:41 bnchs; any more epic memes
18:41 MinceR; epic megamemes
18:42 bnchs; bowser got fined 14.5 million dollars and got sent to prison for making modchips
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18:49 bnchs; we pirate games for the playstation 4 here all the time, because sony doesn't accept our credit cards or paypals
18:49 bnchs; fuck region restrictions
18:49 SomeH4x0r; just "pirate" them no matter what
18:49 SomeH4x0r; fuck Sony, it grew too big and now it MUST DIE
18:49 bnchs; but i pirate them anyway
18:50 bnchs; a 20 EUR giftcard is a mile walk, so i pirate games from a homebrew program instead
18:50 SomeH4x0r; once an entity grows big enough, it should be considered suspicious, and likely no return
18:50 bnchs; or 3 miles
18:50 bnchs; "pirate"
18:51 MinceR; human population has grown too big
18:51 SomeH4x0r; Some people use "pirate" word to identify themselves, but iiuc this word was put by "copyright holders" initially, to make it look like "copying" is the same thing as "stealing"
18:51 SomeH4x0r; applies as well
18:52 SomeH4x0r; it causes various issues
18:52 schestowitz; https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board compare to https://web.archive.org/web/20210531154345/https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board
18:52 TR Bot; Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
18:52 TR Bot; Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
18:52 SomeH4x0r; what exactly there?
18:53 bnchs; good for nopaystation
18:53 SomeH4x0r; I'd still better not buy such a device in general, since afaik it has some shit still not removed
18:56 bnchs; yeah, i bought it pre-modified
18:56 SomeH4x0r; I mean things like malware from the big server, iirc you said they are still not fixed
18:57 bnchs; yes, that was because of the auto update sony abused
18:57 bnchs; it does that when you login to their service
18:58 SomeH4x0r; auto-update feature is not good in general
18:58 SomeH4x0r; a lot because of updates often having malicious features
18:59 bnchs; sony still makes updates to the playstation 3
18:59 SomeH4x0r; but the user's choice must matter too
18:59 bnchs; it's usually to break CFW compatbility
18:59 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-31.jpg
19:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-31.jpg
19:01 bnchs; i got console-banned from sony's PSN anyway
19:01 bnchs; for having a modded console
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19:24 psydroid2; I would be proud of that
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19:35 bnchs; i mean there are PS3 private network servers (just like how theres one for the Nintendo Wii or DS)
19:39 psydroid2; PS3 was the last console I was mildly interested in because of the ability to run GNU/Linux on it
19:39 psydroid2; but I've never owned a console
19:40 psydroid2; paying for (the "right" to play) those games should be enough
19:43 schestowitz; downtime: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101
19:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101
19:43 schestowitz; nd clownflare useless
19:43 TR Bot; ( status 522 @ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 )
19:49 schestowitz; the full video is online now http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/
19:49 TR Bot; Reprehensible GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | Techrights
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20:27 bnchs; sony removed that feature
20:27 bnchs; but you can recover it with some custom firmware, and modified partition table
20:28 bnchs; only works on PS3 fat and slim
20:30 bnchs; GNOME is a joke, the "no thumbnails on filepicker" is now about 18 years old
20:31 bnchs; GNOME is also racist with their code of conduct: "The GNOME community prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort"
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20:38 MinceR; gtk filepicker also randomly forgets its own bookmarks
20:38 MinceR; nbd
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20:56 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747471.jpg
20:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747471.jpg
20:59 XRevan86; MinceR: One pespective on prohibition is that once the population is addicted it's almost impossible to un-addict it.
21:00 MinceR; people have no difficulty becoming addicted to things that are illegal during the process
21:01 XRevan86; If there's a cultural insentive to do so.
21:03 bnchs; yes like internet freedom
21:03 bnchs; first make a social control media plan (like my MSP)
21:03 bnchs; then slowly push it as more and more people use it
21:03 XRevan86; Just look at how PRC is doing.
21:03 bnchs; and remove the internet plan
21:04 XRevan86; They never allowed the population to have Internet freedom :).
21:04 XRevan86; And so they just live without it as if that's normal.
21:04 bnchs; my MSPs try to make this social control media plan
21:04 bnchs; free unlimited plan that only costs 5dh
21:04 bnchs; who would refuse it
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21:04 XRevan86; Russia has similiar plans.
21:05 bnchs; it's really a internet firewall
21:05 XRevan86; Making access to VK and Gosuslugi (Govservices) free.
21:05 bnchs; really?
21:05 MinceR; 14 220411 < XRevan86> And so they just live without it as if that's normal.
21:05 MinceR; no, they don't.
21:05 MinceR; https://www.quora.com/Can-we-use-Tor-in-China
21:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: quora.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/Can-we-use-Tor-in-China
21:05 TR Bot; we use Tor in China? - Quora
21:06 bnchs; well they also paid their usual youtubers to shill the plan
21:06 bnchs; "buy a recharge card, redeem it with *6, you get free social media forever"
21:06 XRevan86; bnchs: https://vedomosti.ru/media/articles/2022/01/26/906559-komissiya-pravitelstva-utverdila
21:06 TR Bot; -
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21:07 XRevan86; MinceR: Well, if ye put it that way
21:09 bnchs; they start bundling this free social control media plan with internet plan
21:09 bnchs; i mean they already do
21:11 bnchs; these days, i ask people if they can share their internet real quick, and be disappointed to know that it's just a social control media plan
21:20 bnchs; this week, they just made a whole plan around TikTok https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Dox-yP8Smv0
21:20 TR Bot; [ ] TikTok *5 - Invidious
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21:46 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/04/thats-technically-true-tweets/
21:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/04/thats-technically-true-tweets/
21:46 TR Bot; I Mean, That's Technically True (40 Pics)
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22:06 psydroid2;
22:06 psydroid2; to sell your soul to Tik Tok and Facebook
22:07 XRevan86; https://libredirect.github.io/ (inb4: #DeleteGitHub)
22:07 TR Bot; LibRedirect
22:07 XRevan86; I like the extensiveness of the front-ends.
22:08 XRevan86; There are even more of them than I thought.
22:10 MinceR; can it also redirect from an invidious instance to other invidious instances and youtube?
22:10 MinceR; or from one nitter instance to others and to twitter?
22:13 XRevan86; MinceR: It does.
22:13 MinceR; nice
22:14 MinceR; does it work on chromium-related browsers?
22:14 bnchs__; i think they're gonna start making seperate plans for everything and discontinue internet plan
22:14 MinceR; or without a browser?
22:14 MinceR; bnchs__: finally they're getting rid of something that hurts them and fuck everyone else
22:15 XRevan86; MinceR: no
22:15 MinceR; sad
22:15 MinceR; i was starting to believe it could be useful for me
22:15 bnchs__; they already banned half of the internet (unintentionally due to ISP overblocking) in the Arab Spring
22:16 bnchs__; then they unbanned it
22:16 bnchs__; now they're just gonna leave the things that are "useful" to people (social media) and lock up all the rest
22:16 MinceR; s/people/the state/
22:16 MinceR; FTFY
22:16 bnchs__; yeah
22:17 bnchs__; iirc they banned a CDN during arab spring, which many sites used
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22:23 SomeH4x0r; /whois AdmFubar1
22:24 SomeH4x0r; I wonder if it is a bug, seeing such things sometimes
22:27 psydroid2; so what is internet like in Morocco? only social media?
22:28 psydroid2; unless you find some workaround, I guess
22:28 bnchs__; it works
22:28 bnchs__; they're still offering internet plan
22:28 bnchs__; but really they're starting to push these social media plans
22:29 psydroid2; I had only heard of something like this happening in Thailand or some other country in the vicinity
22:33 bnchs__; the video says 2,5 GB of tiktok for 10 DH, which is cheaper than 2,5 GB of internet for 25 DH
22:33 psydroid2; and there was quite some backlash when Reliance Jio had made a deal with Facebook in India
22:34 psydroid2; so that's "subsidised" internet
22:34 psydroid2; you pay with your private information
22:34 psydroid2; or data rather
22:40 bnchs__; they partnered up with a video game to introduce a pass for that video game
22:41 bnchs__; a "pass", you're paying for a pass to allow your device to make connections to certain servers (the video game's servers)
22:50 bnchs__; also they're doing some tricks to my connection, whenever i do something internet-intestive, they choke my connection until it drops
22:50 bnchs__; intensive*
22:51 activelow; mobile internet?
22:52 bnchs__; no ADSL
23:06 psydroid2; so we basically come back to the point of politics, as always
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23:22 bnchs__; moroccans rely too much on facebook
23:22 bnchs__; even when they get censored
23:22 bnchs__; they resort to workaround such as misspelling some of the forbidden words
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23:27 activelow; not helpful, text-processing algorithms do not match words, it is stems/tokens wich are matched
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23:28 bnchs__; the social (control) media plan also locks them in
23:28 bnchs__; since they can't pay for a internet plan
23:28 bnchs__; nor a website
23:28 activelow; such as censored is stored in the index as { 'cen', 'ens', 'nso', 'sor' ...} and matching a mis-spelled word equally tokenized has a close proximity
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23:31 activelow; try for yourself with any search engine, such as (c-ensorr ship); with ddg it instantly matches against censorship highly ranked, as is it should i might add
23:33 bnchs__; well they never learn
23:34 bnchs__; i thinking that the ISP is deliberately locking them into social media (like a herd of sheep entering a fence)
23:34 bnchs__; so that they can control them easily
23:42 psydroid8; and people are too gullible to stand up to such abuse?
23:42 psydroid8; or don't Moroccans do that in general?
23:43 bnchs__; they did only against the vaccine mandates
23:43 bnchs__; which was heavily censored and not covered on TV
23:45 bnchs__; sometimes they don't stand up at all
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23:53 psydroid8; I'll have to go there myself some time
23:54 psydroid8; some of my good friends are Moroccans, even though they don't live there (anymore)
23:55 bnchs__; nah don't
23:55 bnchs__; it's not worth going there
23:57 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-3.jpg
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23:57 psydroid8; it was easier before the pandemic
23:57 psydroid8; I'll see what I'll do
23:57 psydroid8; first I need to learn more Arabic
23:58 psydroid8; although I could manage with French
23:58 bnchs__; there's a reason they don't live there anymore
23:58 psydroid8; I know
23:59 psydroid8; I have former colleagues and friends from all over North Africa, so it was always one of my wishes to go and see those places
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