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beginning of new day, February 11

00:00 bnchs__; microsoft IIS is more unmaintained than nginx or apache

00:00 bnchs__; if there was a vulnerability in it, my country would be the most hacked

00:00 *techrights_guest|38 (~1770e15e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights

00:01 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: maybe it already isa

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00:03 bnchs__; the sysadmins are already having problems with the student scores

00:03 schestowitz-TR; lol

00:03 schestowitz-TR; everyone passes

00:03 schestowitz-TR; everyone wins

00:03 bnchs__; with the students having more or less score than they receive

00:03 bnchs__; even one student who failed, recieved a perfect maximum score

00:03 schestowitz-TR; excellent

00:03 schestowitz-TR; all happy

00:05 bnchs__; this was because the scores got mixed up while the server was down for maintenance

00:06 bnchs__; the server was down because of some problem with microsoft's SQL server

00:06 bnchs__; and due to the web server getting overloaded

00:07 schestowitz-TR; lol

00:07 schestowitz-TR; great stuff

00:07 schestowitz-TR; i see digitalisation is really working out

00:07 schestowitz-TR; for cheaters anyway

00:07 schestowitz-TR; hey, man...

00:07 schestowitz-TR; next thing you know...

00:07 schestowitz-TR; they'll do elections on voting machines

00:08 schestowitz-TR; and banking over the internet

00:08 schestowitz-TR; imagine that!

00:08 bnchs__; there's also a hacker problem

00:08 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@niand7amjkssw.irc) has joined #techrights

00:08 bnchs__; hackers offering to increase student scores

00:09 bnchs__; this is why schools don't trust the website, and only use it as a secondary source

00:09 TR News; #Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 109 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-109/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

↺ https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-109/

http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

00:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-109/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/02/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-109/

00:09 TR Bot; These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 109 Firefox Nightly News

00:09 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights

00:10 TR News; #Mozilla Localization (L10N): L10n Report: January 2022 Edition https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/02/10/l10n-report-january-2022-edition/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/02/10/l10n-report-january-2022-edition/

http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

00:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/02/10/l10n-report-january-2022-edition/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/02/10/l10n-report-january-2022-edition/

00:10 TR Bot; L10n Report: January 2022 Edition | Mozilla L10N

00:10 bnchs__; btw the overload started this semester when students wanted to see their scores

00:10 bnchs__; it fucked up with the SQL server

00:12 schestowitz-TR; 'server' [sic

00:12 XRevan86; bnchs__: The server-side of an SQL-capable RDBMS or MSSQL?

00:12 schestowitz-TR; well, technically it sometimes serves crackers

00:12 schestowitz-TR; but that's now what's intended by the buyer or licensee

00:12 XRevan86; The ambiguity is confusing.

00:12 bnchs__; its MSSQL

00:13 XRevan86; Could've been MS Access :)

00:14 schestowitz-TR; accessed by crackers, too

00:14 schestowitz-TR; did they try to trademark "Access"?

00:14 schestowitz-TR; and "Server"?

00:14 schestowitz-TR; "Weare THE server... in sql"

00:14 bnchs__; there's also crackers fucking up the scores of students (setting them to 0) to fuck with them

00:14 schestowitz-TR; and THE windows in a windowed environment"

00:14 schestowitz-TR; "and WORD processor"

00:14 bnchs__; the score goes up to 20

00:15 schestowitz-TR; but then students can complain

00:15 schestowitz-TR; and it gets investigated

00:15 schestowitz-TR; they would not complain if it is high

00:15 XRevan86; bnchs__: It's possible that the issue is not MSSQL but the qualification of the people who'd choose MSSQL :)

00:15 schestowitz-TR; it's like when someone pays you back too much change

00:15 schestowitz-TR; at a shop, not a friend

00:15 XRevan86; Could be a banal SQL injection.

00:15 bnchs__; yes i'm pretty sure they would keep it a secret

00:15 schestowitz-TR; most people will keep quiet

00:16 bnchs__; XRevan86: our entire country's websites rely on MS IIS 8.5

00:16 bnchs__; except the personal websites

00:16 XRevan86; bnchs__: My condolences.

00:16 bnchs__; they're hosted on nginx

00:16 XRevan86; bnchs__: Personal websites are allowed to be more secure, got it :)

00:16 bnchs__; (because the personal websites are hosted by sane people, and not bought by microsoft)

00:16 schestowitz-TR; we set up nginx last week

00:17 TR News; Turning The #PS4 Into A Useful Linux Machine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161332 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161332

00:17 TR Bot; Turning The PS4 Into A Useful Linux Machine | Tux Machines

00:18 bnchs__; they cant really switch to nginx or apache

00:18 bnchs__; since their website are written in ASP.NET

00:19 schestowitz-TR; lock-in

00:19 schestowitz-TR; toss out

00:19 schestowitz-TR; start again

00:19 XRevan86; bnchs__: It's as if in an office people would secure their personal belongings with premium Schlage locks while the company policy is to use a garden lock from MasterLock everywhere.

00:19 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: I'm sure they have an up-to-date "anto"virus software

00:20 schestowitz-TR; so the money is wasted on more malware

00:20 bnchs__; our ISP's website is also hosted on ASP.NET

00:20 schestowitz-TR; instead of exiting the trap

00:20 bnchs__; with most of their page size being microsoft bloatware JS and CSS

00:20 XRevan86; bnchs__: The standard solution is to wrap that piece of crap in a reverse proxy.

00:20 schestowitz-TR; or varnish?

00:21 schestowitz-TR; same

00:21 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2202042

↺ https://ircz.de/p/2202042

00:21 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/tvN0mK6.jpg created on 2022-02-04 00:40:54.961665

↺ https://i.imgur.com/tvN0mK6.jpg

00:21 schestowitz-TR; many apache sites are not fronted by nginx

00:21 schestowitz-TR; which makes ngix look bigger than it is

00:21 XRevan86; I was implying nginx, but "a reverse proxy" is inclusive.

00:21 bnchs__; https://www.iam.ma/index.aspx

↺ https://www.iam.ma/index.aspx

00:21 TR Bot; Maroc Telecom : forfaits tlphone mobile, fixe, internet, adsl, wifi, 4G, 3G Maroc

00:21 bnchs__; if you go to line number 2493, you can see tons of microsoft siht

00:21 XRevan86; bnchs__: Strangely enough, Microsoft actually has a present for you

00:22 bnchs__; mostly related to microsoft spellchecker

00:22 XRevan86; bnchs__: .NET Core works on GNU/Linux, so it's possible to attempt to port this mess away from Windows.

00:22 schestowitz-TR; it does not tackle many of the issues

00:23 schestowitz-TR; it's just infesting othr platforms

00:23 schestowitz-TR; IBM looks to profit from it

00:23 schestowitz-TR; without actually liberating users

00:23 bnchs__; best solution is to rewrite it in PHP

00:23 XRevan86; bnchs__: The link doesn't open: SSL_ERROR_UNSAFE_NEGOTIATION

00:23 bnchs__; while still using the ASP.NET

00:24 TR News; O-HIM? No, he's not a tyrant, he's for social democracy Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/new-epo-social-democracy-meme/ #Techrights #europe #corruption #ohim #euipo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/new-epo-social-democracy-meme/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/new-epo-social-democracy-meme/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/new-epo-social-democracy-meme/

00:24 TR Bot; [Meme] EUIPO-Styled Labelling for EPO | Techrights

00:24 XRevan86; bnchs__: It seems like putting it behind a reverse proxy is not just a good idea but also necessary.

00:24 bnchs__; XRevan86: really it's working for me, (it uses TLS 1.2)

00:24 TR News; Unjustified injustice at the #EPO puts in grave doubt the EPOs capability of deciding on patentability and its credibility in #patent cases at large Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/epo-unjustified/ #Techrights #corruption #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/epo-unjustified/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/epo-unjustified/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/epo-unjustified/

00:24 TR Bot; EPO Unjustified | Techrights

00:25 schestowitz-TR; TLS 1.2 is deprecated

00:25 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161292

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161292

00:25 TR Bot; Linux kernel developer Alan Cox on Microsoft security practices. "I pointed out that they ship an OpenSSL from 2017 and they wont even respond." | Tux Machines

00:25 XRevan86; It's not.

00:25 bnchs__; holy shit they upgraded microsoft IIS 8.5

00:25 bnchs__; to microsoft IIS 10.0

00:26 schestowitz; lol

00:26 schestowitz; the fossils

00:26 bnchs__; epic victory

00:26 schestowitz; to Microsoft

00:26 schestowitz; more "SLAES"

00:26 schestowitz; selling crap

00:26 schestowitz; with newer numbers

00:26 schestowitz; what next? IIS11?

00:26 XRevan86; bnchs__: Opens in Chromium but not Firefox, hmm

00:26 schestowitz; with new task bar?

00:26 bnchs__; still uses ASP.NET 4.0.30319

00:26 bnchs__; XRevan86: opens in tor browser

00:27 schestowitz; very slow site

00:27 XRevan86; bnchs__: With https:// ?

00:27 TR Bot; not resolve host: ; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// )

00:27 bnchs__; yes

00:27 bnchs__; TLS 1.2

00:28 schestowitz; wow, so much JS

00:28 schestowitz; see top of page source

00:28 schestowitz; it's loading like 30 JS files

00:28 bnchs__; this is from a ISP

00:28 bnchs__; i like how they upgraded their server version but still use ASP.NET version from 2010

00:29 schestowitz; they also so IN-LINE JS

00:29 schestowitz; Facebook spyware

00:29 XRevan86; bnchs__: Cherry picking what can be updated without too much hassle it seems.

00:29 schestowitz; This page phones gulag and zuck

00:30 schestowitz; if you do not block JS

00:30 XRevan86; bnchs__: It did open in Firefox 97.

00:30 schestowitz; LOL, see line 236

00:31 XRevan86; My session is too old :).

00:31 bnchs__; also the student website

00:31 bnchs__; https://massar.men.gov.ma/Account

↺ https://massar.men.gov.ma/Account

00:31 bnchs__; if you look at the HTTP headers

00:31 TR Bot; Login page

00:31 bnchs__; it uses ASP.NET 4.0

00:31 bnchs__; same version as that page

00:31 XRevan86; Mull in F-Droid is still on 96, and the website doesn't open.

00:31 XRevan86; I'm regretting using Mull just because of that.

00:34 bnchs__; compare this to tbe ISP's competitor https://orange.ma

↺ https://orange.ma

00:34 schestowitz; ONE line

00:34 bnchs__; they use varnish

00:34 schestowitz; 104k!!!

00:34 TR Bot; Orange Maroc - Orange

00:34 schestowitz; in one line of HTML

00:34 bnchs__; schestowitz: they used microsoft's HTML builder

00:35 XRevan86; https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/ oh they have their own repository as well, I could just use that.

↺ https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/

00:35 TR Bot; DivestOS Official

00:37 bnchs__; much more bloated and insane website https://inwi.ma

↺ https://inwi.ma

00:37 TR Bot; inwi | Bienvenue sur inwi

00:37 bnchs__; 10 seconds and it's still loading

00:39 TR News; And now it's Microsoft's ZDNet amplifying VMware's FUD attack on Linux, which VMware ripped off and is now trying to blame for ransomware that specifically targets VMware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32791

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32791

00:39 TR Bot; VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines

00:41 TR News; " #ZDNet is a technology tabloid-like news sites whose writers have many conflicts of interest; the difference between advertising and stories is rarely clear. CBS, the parent company, also runs CNET, which is a little more professional." http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet

http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet

00:41 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights

00:41 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: buy a new PC

00:41 schestowitz-TR; for the Web

00:41 schestowitz-TR; heck, these IPSs could make a gemini capsule

00:41 schestowitz-TR; it would load in less than a second inc. overheads and packet latency

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00:42 bnchs___; the web servers are slow and it doesn't help that they're pushing out these 20MB html files like nothing

00:42 bnchs___; oh look my ISP fucked up again

00:42 schestowitz-TR; yeah

00:43 schestowitz; UPC update

00:43 schestowitz; Re: French pres conf, Margot and Jerome

00:43 schestowitz; > Margot is back, some vidos of th failed confrence are online.

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00:45 schestowitz-TR; her we go

00:45 schestowitz-TR; they punish you for criticism

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00:48 bnchs__; https://www.men.gov.ma/Fr/Pages/Accueil.aspx

↺ https://www.men.gov.ma/Fr/Pages/Accueil.aspx

00:49 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.men.gov.ma/Fr/Pages/Accueil.aspx )

↺ https://www.men.gov.ma/Fr/Pages/Accueil.aspx

00:49 bnchs__; "MicrosoftSharePointTeamServices: 15.0.0.4569"

00:49 bnchs__; "X-AspNet-Version: 4.0.30319"

00:49 bnchs__; "Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5"

00:50 bnchs__; while their arabic version runs on Microsoft-IIS/8.0

00:50 schestowitz; Maybe bribes http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/

http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/

00:50 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights

00:50 bnchs__; but same ASP.NET version

00:50 bnchs__; this is their education ministry website

00:51 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/DA3vbGG.mp4

↺ https://i.imgur.com/DA3vbGG.mp4

00:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/DA3vbGG.mp4

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/DA3vbGG.mp4

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00:55 bnchs__; lets look at a website that's not related to the government like https://chouftv.ma/

↺ https://chouftv.ma/

00:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: chouftv.ma | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://chouftv.ma/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://chouftv.ma/

00:55 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://chouftv.ma/ )

↺ https://chouftv.ma/

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00:55 bnchs__; they use varnish and cloudflare

00:57 bnchs__; the point is that this microsoft monopoly only occurs in government websites

00:57 bnchs__; and doesn't occur in shit like news websites or personal websites


1 AM, February 11

01:04 bnchs__; anyway i'm out gn

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02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-100222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-100222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-100222.txt

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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 10, 2022

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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 10, 2022

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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 10, 2022

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02:58 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacking-group-modifiedelephant-evaded-discovery-for-a-decade/

↺ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacking-group-modifiedelephant-evaded-discovery-for-a-decade/

02:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacking-group-modifiedelephant-evaded-discovery-for-a-decade/

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02:58 TR Bot; Hacking group 'ModifiedElephant' evaded discovery for a decade


3 AM, February 11

03:01 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fritzfrog-botnet-grows-10x-hits-healthcare-edu-and-govt-systems/

↺ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fritzfrog-botnet-grows-10x-hits-healthcare-edu-and-govt-systems/

03:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fritzfrog-botnet-grows-10x-hits-healthcare-edu-and-govt-systems/

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03:01 TR Bot; FritzFrog botnet grows 10x, hits healthcare, edu, and govt systems

03:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The masks come off on February 28th.

03:17 DaemonFC; Governor Pritzker declared the emergency over with.

03:19 DaemonFC; I liked how his family was vacationing in Florida during the "stay at home order" in 2020.

03:19 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 170165 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39256 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 3 days ago

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4 AM, February 11

04:28 AdmFubar; https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2022/02/09/electronic-frontier-foundations-attempt-to-unseal-uniloc-licenses-falls-flat-at-cafc/id=145626/

↺ https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2022/02/09/electronic-frontier-foundations-attempt-to-unseal-uniloc-licenses-falls-flat-at-cafc/id=145626/

04:28 TR Bot; Electronic Frontier Foundations Attempt to Unseal Uniloc Licenses Falls Flat at CAFC

04:56 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 264.76

04:57 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/mcdonalds-security-guard-battered-after-diner-refuses-to-show-proof-of-vaccine/

↺ https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/mcdonalds-security-guard-battered-after-diner-refuses-to-show-proof-of-vaccine/

04:57 TR Bot; McDonalds security guard battered after diner refuses to show proof of vaccine | WGN-TV


5 AM, February 11

05:02 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/depaul-university-student-one-of-4-women-attacked-minutes-apart-in-loop/

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05:02 TR Bot; DePaul University student one of 4 women attacked minutes apart in Loop | WGN-TV

05:02 DaemonFC; "Blechschmidt and the other victims now wonder why he was even out on the street."

05:02 DaemonFC; State's Attorney Kim Foxx

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6 AM, February 11

06:19 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/workplace/slack-teams-workplace-tools-jobs

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06:19 TR Bot; workplace tools play into the Great Resignation - Protocol

06:21 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/app-store-commission

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06:21 TR Bot; defends its App Store fees - Protocol

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7 AM, February 11

07:00 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/modifiedelephant_evidence_malware/

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07:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/modifiedelephant_evidence_malware/

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07:00 TR Bot; ModifiedElephant gang plants incriminating evidence on PCs The Register

07:01 AdmFubar; Zoom Zoom! https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/zoom_mac_microphone/

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07:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/zoom_mac_microphone/

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07:01 TR Bot; Mac users report Zoom using their microphone outside calls The Register

07:02 schestowitz-TR; ha

07:02 schestowitz-TR; mission creep

07:02 schestowitz-TR; proprietary software... presumed #malware

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07:07 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/mazda_radios_images/

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07:07 TR Bot; Radio station broadcast bad files, crashed car infotainment The Register

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8 AM, February 11

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9 AM, February 11

09:18 TR News; The #EPO s Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XLVIII: The Unkindest Cut of All http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/the-epos-overseeroverseen-collusion-part-xlviii-the-unkindest-cut-of-all/ #europe #corruption #injustice #iloat

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/the-epos-overseeroverseen-collusion-part-xlviii-the-unkindest-cut-of-all/

09:18 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XLVIII: The Unkindest Cut of All | Techrights

09:19 TR News; [Meme] Reminder That #Battistelli Openly Boasted (in the Media) About the EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/battistelli-boasted-about-collusion/ #epo #corruption #crime

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/battistelli-boasted-about-collusion/

09:19 TR Bot; [Meme] Reminder That Battistelli Openly Boasted (in the Media) About the EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion | Techrights

09:19 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, February 10, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/irc-log-100222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/irc-log-100222/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/irc-log-100222/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/10/irc-log-100222/

09:19 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, February 10, 2022 | Techrights

09:20 TR News; #proprietarysoftware ... presumed #malware https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/zoom_mac_microphone/ #zoom

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09:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/zoom_mac_microphone/

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09:20 TR News; #PeppermintOS 2022-02-02 Scraps LXDE in Favor of Xfce [Review] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161333 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161333

09:20 TR Bot; Peppermint OS 2022-02-02 Scraps LXDE in Favor of Xfce [Review] | Tux Machines

09:20 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, February 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

http://techrights.org/txt

http://techrights.org/txt-archives

09:20 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

09:20 TR News; #sharing

09:21 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

http://techrights.org/ipfs

http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt

09:21 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

09:21 TR News; #BenotBattistelli s unlawful Strike Regulations (restricting basic rights of #EPO staff) were boosted by the kangaroo courts of #AntnioCampinos , who continued to exploit these unlawful rules for 3 years http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/the-epos-overseeroverseen-collusion-part-xlviii-the-unkindest-cut-of-all/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/the-epos-overseeroverseen-collusion-part-xlviii-the-unkindest-cut-of-all/

09:22 schestowitz; Richard Stallman wrote on 11/02/2022 04:37:

09:22 schestowitz; >

09:22 schestowitz; > I see nothing bad in principle about gemini, no reason we wouldn't

09:22 schestowitz; > want to present www.gnu.org in that form. But it doesn't

09:22 schestowitz; > seem terribly urgent.

09:22 schestowitz; >

09:22 schestowitz; > So it's a question of whether someone wants to do the work.

09:22 schestowitz; >

09:22 schestowitz; > It will not just be one-time work. Changes in our web pages

09:22 schestowitz; > will need to be transferred into the gemini pages, meaning

09:22 schestowitz; > continuing work.

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09:25 TR News; NEWS #BoilingSteam #Games Proton vs Native: Is There Really A Difference? https://boilingsteam.com/proton-vs-native-is-there-really-a-difference/

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09:25 TR Bot; Proton vs Native: Is There Really A Difference? - Boiling Steam

09:26 TR News; NEWS #DanielMiessler #Chromium My Favorite #Vim Commands in #Chrome https://danielmiessler.com/blog/my-favorite-vim-commands-in-chrome/

↺ https://danielmiessler.com/blog/my-favorite-vim-commands-in-chrome/

09:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/my-favorite-vim-commands-in-chrome/

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09:26 TR Bot; My Favorite Vim Commands in Chrome - Daniel Miessler

09:27 TR News; NEWS #BruceSchneier Bunnie Huangs Plausibly Deniable Database https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/bunnie-huangs-plausibly-deniable-database.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/bunnie-huangs-plausibly-deniable-database.html

09:27 TR Bot; Huangs Plausibly Deniable Database - Schneier on Security

09:28 TR News; NEWS #MattRickard #Programming Optimization is Fragile https://matt-rickard.com/optimization-is-fragile/

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09:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/optimization-is-fragile/

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09:28 TR Bot; Optimization is Fragile

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09:37 TR News; NEWS #DataSwamp #Programming Reed-alert: five years later https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-02-10-five-years-of-reed-alert.html

↺ https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-02-10-five-years-of-reed-alert.html

09:37 TR Bot; Solene'% : Reed-alert: five years later

09:37 TR News; [Old] #Changelog #Programming Making the #ZFS file system https://changelog.com/podcast/475

↺ https://changelog.com/podcast/475

09:37 TR Bot; the ZFS file system with Matt Ahrens, co-founder of the ZFS project (The Changelog #475) |> Changelog

09:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: changelog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://changelog.com/podcast/475

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09:37 TR News; NEWS #DEVCommunity #Programming ZUI For Zsh Hackers https://dev.to/zzi/zui-for-zsh-hackers-61k

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09:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dev.to | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dev.to/zzi/zui-for-zsh-hackers-61k

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09:37 TR Bot; ZUI For Zsh Hackers - DEV Community

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09:39 TR News; NEWS #ToolsPond #Zshrc File Explained in 10 Easy to Understand Points https://toolspond.com/zshrc/

↺ https://toolspond.com/zshrc/

09:39 TR Bot; Zshrc File Explained in 10 Easy to Understand Points - Tools Pond

09:39 TR News; NEWS #LinuxHandbook #Zsh What is Zsh? Should You Use it? https://linuxhandbook.com/why-zsh/

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09:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxhandbook.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhandbook.com/why-zsh/

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09:39 TR Bot; What is Zsh? Should You Use it?

09:39 TR News; [Old] #BetterProgramming #Zsh Fish vs. Zsh vs. Bash and Why You Should Switch to Fish https://betterprogramming.pub/fish-vs-zsh-vs-bash-reasons-why-you-need-to-switch-to-fish-4e63a66687eb

↺ https://betterprogramming.pub/fish-vs-zsh-vs-bash-reasons-why-you-need-to-switch-to-fish-4e63a66687eb

09:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: betterprogramming.pub | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betterprogramming.pub/fish-vs-zsh-vs-bash-reasons-why-you-need-to-switch-to-fish-4e63a66687eb

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09:39 TR Bot; Fish vs. Zsh vs. Bash and Why You Should Switch to Fish | by Sid Mohanty | Better Programming

09:40 TR News; [Old] #FishShell # Fish for bash users https://fishshell.com/docs/3.2/fish_for_bash_users.html

↺ https://fishshell.com/docs/3.2/fish_for_bash_users.html

09:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fishshell.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fishshell.com/docs/3.2/fish_for_bash_users.html

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09:40 TR Bot; Fish for bash users fish-shell 3.2.2 documentation

09:42 TR News; NEWS #BruceSchneier #Encryption Breaking 256-bit Elliptic Curve Encryption with a Quantum Computer https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/breaking-245-bit-elliptic-curve-encryption-with-a-quantum-computer.html

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09:42 TR Bot; 256-bit Elliptic Curve Encryption with a Quantum Computer - Schneier on Security

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10 AM, February 11

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10:05 TR News; NEWS #DidierStevens #ProprietarySoftware Windows Explorer: Improper Exif Data Removal https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/02/08/windows-explorer-improper-exif-data-removal/

↺ https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/02/08/windows-explorer-improper-exif-data-removal/

10:05 TR Bot; Windows Explorer: Improper Exif Data Removal | Didier Stevens

10:05 TR News; NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware Washington state agency says data of hundreds of thousands of professionals may have been breached https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/592985-washington-state-agency-says-data-of-millions-of-professionals-may-have

↺ https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/592985-washington-state-agency-says-data-of-millions-of-professionals-may-have

10:05 TR Bot; state agency says data of hundreds of thousands of professionals may have been breached | TheHill

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10:20 TR News; NEWS #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware Global political and business leaders warn of possible Russian-sponsored cyber attacks https://itwire.com/security/global-political-and-business-leaders-warn-of-possible-russian-sponsored-cyber-attacks.html

↺ https://itwire.com/security/global-political-and-business-leaders-warn-of-possible-russian-sponsored-cyber-attacks.html

10:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/global-political-and-business-leaders-warn-of-possible-russian-sponsored-cyber-attacks.html

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10:20 TR Bot; - Global political and business leaders warn of possible Russian-sponsored cyber attacks

10:20 TR News; NEWS #ComputerWorld #ProprietarySoftware #Apple wants to know why you hate Safari https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649769/apple-wants-to-know-why-you-hate-safari.html

↺ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649769/apple-wants-to-know-why-you-hate-safari.html

10:20 TR Bot; wants to know why you hate Safari | Computerworld

10:21 TR News; NEWS #NBC #ProprietarySoftware How ShotSpotter fights criticism and leverages federal cash to win police contracts https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shotspotter-police-gunshot-technology-federal-grants-rcna13815

↺ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shotspotter-police-gunshot-technology-federal-grants-rcna13815

10:21 TR Bot; How ShotSpotter fights criticism and leverages federal cash to win police contracts

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10:30 TR News; Lots of CSS work this morning in gemini.techrights.org/

10:31 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #Apple says it will make unknown #AirTags alert you sooner https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/10/22927374/apple-airtag-safety-update-stalking

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10:31 TR Bot; Apple says it will make unknown AirTags alert you sooner - The Verge

10:31 TR News; NEWS #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance #ChatControl : 10 principles to defend children in the digital age https://edri.org/our-work/chat-control-10-principles-to-defend-children-in-the-digital-age/

↺ https://edri.org/our-work/chat-control-10-principles-to-defend-children-in-the-digital-age/

10:31 TR Bot; Chat control: 10 principles to defend children in the digital age - European Digital Rights (EDRi)

10:33 TR News; NEWS #PCMag #Privacy #Surveillance #Twitter Reportedly Developing Long-Form 'Articles' Feature https://www.pcmag.com/news/twitter-reportedly-developing-long-form-articles-feature

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10:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/twitter-reportedly-developing-long-form-articles-feature

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10:33 TR Bot; Reportedly Developing Long-Form 'Articles' Feature | PCMag

10:34 TR News; NEWS #NDTV #Privacy #Surveillance #Twitter Articles Feature Reportedly in the Works, Could Offer Support for Longer Posts https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/twitter-articles-feature-leak-long-form-articles-threads-twitter-blue-2746724

↺ https://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/twitter-articles-feature-leak-long-form-articles-threads-twitter-blue-2746724

10:34 TR Bot; Twitter Articles Feature Reportedly in the Works, Could Offer Support for Longer Posts | Technology News

10:34 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Twitter may soon allow users to write article-style posts https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/twitter-may-soon-allow-users-to-write-article-style-posts/articleshow/89322316.cms Sooooooooo. Twitter IS BECOMING ANOTHER FACEBOOK!

↺ https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/twitter-may-soon-allow-users-to-write-article-style-posts/articleshow/89322316.cms

10:34 TR Bot; Twitter Article Feature: Twitter may soon allow users to write article-style posts - Times of India

10:35 TR News; Confidentiality

10:36 TR News; NEWS #DholeMoments #Confidentiality Using #RSA Securely in 2022 https://soatok.blog/2022/02/09/using-rsa-securely-in-2022/

↺ https://soatok.blog/2022/02/09/using-rsa-securely-in-2022/

10:36 TR Bot; Using RSA Securely in 2022 - Dhole Moments

10:43 psydroid2; AMD was a founding member of the RISC-V Foundation, but they aren't a member anymore

10:43 psydroid2; https://web.archive.org/web/20170830051856/https://riscv.org/membership/wpbdp_category/founding/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/20170830051856/https://riscv.org/membership/wpbdp_category/founding/

10:43 TR Bot; NO TITLE

10:53 TR News; Reminder: #dell advertised #gnu #linux laptops in 2008 (without mentioning the OS) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/dell-advert-ubuntu.ogg

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/dell-advert-ubuntu.ogg

10:53 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: did not know

10:54 schestowitz-TR; now intel becomes 'underdog'?

10:54 psydroid2; I believe IBM was a member too at some point

10:55 psydroid2; maybe not 'underdog', but AMD has always wanted to be the 'new' Intel

10:55 schestowitz-TR; like fsf

10:55 schestowitz-TR; members... when it suits them

10:56 schestowitz-TR; like lf membership, this is about control

10:56 psydroid2; when it becomes a threat to your own business, it's time to stop being a member

10:56 schestowitz-TR; the shareholders pay for membership not for altruistic purposes

10:56 schestowitz-TR; amd did not send things to micro larabel to show its appreciation

10:56 schestowitz-TR; it wants something in return

10:57 schestowitz-TR; like those many JOB ADS (ONE position in a company with tens of thousands) as "article"

10:57 psydroid2; that's why I've said that AMD was the alternative to Intel in the 2000s

10:57 psydroid2; but in the 2010s it wasn't anymore

10:57 schestowitz-TR; geoge etc.

10:57 psydroid2; the alternative became non-x86

10:57 schestowitz-TR; geode

10:58 schestowitz-TR; look what intel did to olpc

10:58 schestowitz-TR; because it used amd chips

10:58 psydroid2; AMD still plays in Intel's sandbox

10:58 psydroid2; but if that market shrinks, so will AMD

10:59 schestowitz-TR; good point

10:59 schestowitz-TR; so they look for contigencies

10:59 schestowitz-TR; btw

10:59 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I was disturbed again

10:59 schestowitz-TR; [15:59] <techrights-news> Half the stories so far today in #phoronix are #amd fluff. Recent: http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

10:59 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights

10:59 schestowitz-TR; this is becoming all too obvious

10:59 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I can never see that site again... as we used to


11 AM, February 11

11:00 psydroid2; I don't even read AMD articles anymore

11:00 psydroid2; Pluton Trumps everything

11:00 schestowitz-TR; they think they can get away with it

11:00 schestowitz-TR; like intel and me

11:00 psydroid2; and the products aren't even great value anymore

11:00 schestowitz-TR; and vista with drm

11:00 schestowitz-TR; they assume people will take anything thrown their way

11:00 psydroid2; the only market they should have left is Vista with DRM

11:01 schestowitz-TR; rianne has a new raspi400

11:01 schestowitz-TR; arrived yesterday evening, 4 cores

11:01 schestowitz-TR; it also has a complete gemini clone/copy of TR on it already, as backup

11:01 schestowitz-TR; i told rianne I could put kde on it

11:01 schestowitz-TR; but not recommended

11:02 psydroid2; that will be a thing with Rock 5B and Raspi 5 etc.

11:02 schestowitz-TR; it is a dual-boot machine

11:02 schestowitz-TR; and dual-head

11:02 schestowitz-TR; I am buying 3 external storage devices this evening, 2 usb and one microsd

11:03 schestowitz-TR; I can see ARM as our future

11:03 schestowitz-TR; small, lowers energy bills

11:03 psydroid8; https://forum.radxa.com/t/introduce-rock-5-model-b-arm-desktop-level-sbc/8361

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11:03 TR Bot; Introduce ROCK 5 Model B - ARM Desktop level SBC - ROCK 5 - Radxa Forum

11:03 schestowitz-TR; energy is getting incredibly expensive

11:03 psydroid2; yes

11:03 psydroid2; I saw it on the news yesterday

11:03 psydroid2; "news"

11:03 psydroid2; people's energy bills are skyrocketing

11:03 schestowitz-TR; 55 pounds a month in 2017

11:03 schestowitz-TR; not about 80 a month

11:03 schestowitz-TR; thanks, borisnaro

11:04 schestowitz-TR; bp announced record PROFITS

11:04 schestowitz-TR; for a family of 5 it can easily exceed 200 pounds

11:04 schestowitz-TR; and we never turn on the heating here

11:04 psydroid2; reducing power consumption and heating is becoming more important than ever

11:05 schestowitz-TR; so the usage is conservative, mostly home appliance and a bunch of laptops

11:05 schestowitz-TR; so my point is:

11:05 psydroid2; in that race x86 is out

11:05 schestowitz-TR; energy-efficient computers.

11:05 schestowitz-TR; we can now market them better

11:05 schestowitz-TR; cost of acquisition versus cost of running per annum

11:06 psydroid2; I made this calculation several years ago

11:06 schestowitz-TR; your $1000 wintel laptop might cost you $1400 in 5-10 years

11:06 schestowitz-TR; a $100 pair of raspi machines, working in tadem, might cost 200$

11:06 schestowitz-TR; %200

11:06 schestowitz-TR; $200

11:06 schestowitz-TR; it's that "TCO" BS

11:06 schestowitz-TR; but we can frame it better

11:07 schestowitz-TR; a pi like rianne's is a full-brown PC

11:07 schestowitz-TR; but it uses an adapter like a phone's

11:07 schestowitz-TR; like phone charger basically

11:07 psydroid2; 5 adapter vs 50 power supply

11:08 schestowitz-TR; the other pi is now a web server too

11:08 schestowitz-TR; with nginx

11:08 schestowitz-TR; https://home.techrights.org

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11:08 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://home.techrights.org )

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11:08 schestowitz-TR; the encryption is too strong for many browsers

11:09 schestowitz-TR; http://home.techrights.org

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11:09 TR Bot; Gemini Proxy for Techrights

11:10 psydroid2; it works fine here on Falkon and I expect it to be the same on the Raspi400

11:12 psydroid2; as for Intel I think they see the writing on the wall and have actually been involved with RISC-V for a few years through people they planted at SiFive via Intel Capital

11:12 schestowitz-TR; falkon on my system is very fussy about https://home.techrights.org

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11:12 psydroid2; it's actually AMD that has kept x86 alive for selfish/short-term reasons

11:12 schestowitz-TR; not sure why, but it's debian 10, not latest falkon

11:13 psydroid2; I'm on Debian bookworm here, maybe that makes a difference

11:13 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok

11:13 schestowitz-TR; so it'll be supported soon

11:13 psydroid2; but I also compiled Falkon 3.2.0 in my home directory a week or so ago

11:13 schestowitz-TR; too me 10 mins of processing to generate that key

11:14 TR News; NEWS #Reuters #Energy #Japan to raise #gasoline subsidy to Y5 a litre from Y3.7, hitting cap https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/japan-raise-gasoline-subsidy-y5-litre-y37-hitting-cap-2022-02-09/

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11:14 TR Bot; to raise gasoline subsidy to Y5 a litre from Y3.7, hitting cap | Reuters

11:14 schestowitz-TR; we have hit peak oilk

11:14 schestowitz-TR; at last

11:14 schestowitz-TR; not that this is good

11:14 schestowitz-TR; price of food is impacted

11:14 schestowitz-TR; and now after covid-19 the regime pull of out subsidies

11:15 schestowitz-TR; the ones designed to keep the rebel-leaning "plebs" from revolting

11:15 schestowitz-TR; food subsidies

11:15 schestowitz-TR; directly and via energy subsidies

11:15 schestowitz-TR; graft

11:15 schestowitz-TR; so now,

11:15 schestowitz-TR; to us,

11:15 schestowitz-TR; this means also no computer power subsidies

11:15 schestowitz-TR; and supply chain issues aside

11:16 schestowitz-TR; so lean computing can become more compelling a preposition and maybe we can do articles about that

11:16 schestowitz-TR; Andy mentioned easte aspects after boxing day

11:16 schestowitz-TR; *ewaste

11:16 TR News; NEWS #GFP #Energy Managing #PeakOil : Why rising oil prices could create a stranded asset trap as the energy transition accelerates https://www.greenfinanceplatform.org/research/managing-peak-oil-why-rising-oil-prices-could-create-stranded-asset-trap-energy-transition

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11:16 TR Bot; Managing Peak Oil: Why rising oil prices could create a stranded asset trap as the energy transition accelerates | Green Finance Platform

11:17 TR News; "Under a high-investment case, companies could waste some $530bn of capex this decade as demand starts to decline" https://carbontracker.org/reports/managing-peak-oil/

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11:17 TR Bot; Managing Peak Oil: Why rising oil prices could create a stranded asset trap as the energy transition accelerates - Carbon Tracker Initiative

11:17 TR News; NEWS #Bloomberg #Energy A $23 Billion Fund Is Dumping #Oil Bonds https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-10/a-23-billion-fund-is-dumping-oil-bonds-amid-stranded-asset-risk

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11:17 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?

11:17 schestowitz-TR; oil price higher=

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 1) production costs higher

11:18 schestowitz-TR; 2) transport costs higher

11:18 schestowitz-TR; 3) operation costs higher

11:18 schestowitz-TR; 4) repairs impacted by (1) and (2)

11:18 schestowitz-TR; so if one was to think out aloud, the cost of software becomes "less" compared to hardware and energy

11:19 schestowitz-TR; and cost of hardware depends on cost of energy

11:19 schestowitz-TR; software made more efficient lowers energy use

11:19 schestowitz-TR; LTS means less hardware shuffle

11:20 schestowitz-TR; there is a knock-on effect for clown computing

11:20 schestowitz-TR; wherein people grossly overpay for (mostly) electricity

11:20 schestowitz-TR; so it is a cost/expense multiplier

11:21 schestowitz-TR; bytemark increases prices by 9% now

11:21 psydroid2; this will only accelerate the move towards cheaper and lower-power computing

11:22 schestowitz-TR; no more suitcases of EPYC

11:22 psydroid2; ironically Intel seems to get it whereas AMD doesn't

11:22 psydroid2; I did these comparisons of phone chips vs x86 chips a few weeks ago

11:23 psydroid2; AMD's previous generation of x86 chips (Ryzen 3000 series) isn't faster than the lastest phone chips, so technically already obsolete

11:23 TR News; NEWS #MetroUK You may need to prove your age just to log onto #Twitter and #Reddit soon https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/09/reddit-and-twitter-users-could-be-forced-to-cough-up-id-to-watch-porn-16075989/

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11:23 TR Bot; Reddit and Twitter users could be forced to cough up ID to watch porn | Metro News

11:23 psydroid2; and that's just within about 2 years

11:24 schestowitz-TR; samsung played with phones as computers

11:24 schestowitz-TR; microsoft seems to have killed DeX

11:24 schestowitz-TR; maybe threatened smasung with another patent lawsuit

11:24 schestowitz-TR; like in 2015

11:24 psydroid2; there are only artificial reasons for keeping these chips out of laptops and desktops now

11:25 psydroid2; "doesn't run Vista and applications"

11:25 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/10/22/shades-of-elop/

http://techrights.org/2019/10/22/shades-of-elop/

11:25 TR Bot; Looking for Explanations About Samsungs DeX and Other FOSS Initiatives Being Canned | Techrights

11:25 psydroid2; that won't work forever

11:25 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2019/10/21/on-samsung-dropping-dex/

http://techrights.org/2019/10/21/on-samsung-dropping-dex/

11:25 TR Bot; Samsung Does Not Say Why Its Dropping DeX, But the ASUS EEE Story Might Offer Clues | Techrights

11:25 TR News; NEWS #TheIndependentUK New #UK rules could force people to provide ID before using #Reddit or #Gulag in attempt to stop children viewing pornography, campaigners warn https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/porn-blocks-reddit-google-age-verification-uk-online-harms-b2010311.html

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11:25 TR Bot; New UK rules could force people to provide ID before using Reddit or Google in attempt to stop children viewing pornography, campaigners warn | The Independent

11:26 psydroid2; we are already on the brink of a wave of cheap and powerful computers with non-x86 chips able to run full GNU/Linux desktops

11:27 TR News; NEWS #TheNation #JoeRogan #JoeRotten #Misinformation Its Not Just Joe Rogan. The Entire Digital Space Is Rotten. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/toxic-podcasting/

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11:27 TR Bot; Its Not Just Joe Rogan. The Entire Digital Space Is Rotten. | The Nation

11:27 psydroid2; even a phone or tablet already has all of that power

11:27 schestowitz-TR; yes, untapped

11:27 schestowitz-TR; like I mentioned earlier, see Samsung

11:27 psydroid2; so why let an obsolete software company hold the entire industry back?

11:27 schestowitz-TR; they partnered with Canonical IIRC

11:27 schestowitz-TR; like Canonical shined Uncle Bill's shoes

11:27 schestowitz-TR; and look what happened at the end

11:28 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Misinformation New algorithm bill could force #Facebook to change how the news feed works https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/10/22927472/klobuchar-lummis-algorithm-bill-section-230-misinformation-teenager-mental-health

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11:28 TR Bot; New algorithm bill could force Facebook to change how the news feed works - The Verge

11:28 TR News; #officeSuites false dichotomy - use #LibreOffice or #Calligra https://todon.nl/@yetiinabox/107761647385424238

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11:28 TR Bot; Tuladhar-Douglas: "Ok, folks - I need lots of reach on this post. I'" - Todon.nl

11:29 psydroid2; I hope hardware manufacturers will have the courage to take a stand and just ship the devices and not just as Chromebooks or Vista laptops

11:29 schestowitz-TR; 'chrome'books

11:29 schestowitz-TR; "PC"

11:29 schestowitz-TR; "Mac"

11:29 schestowitz-TR; Gulag/Rotten/Mafia

11:30 schestowitz-TR; no laptop can be shipped as.... LAPTOP

11:30 schestowitz-TR; Pentagon: we nod to that

11:30 schestowitz-TR; China changes that a bit

11:30 schestowitz-TR; Taiwan with Linpus

11:30 schestowitz-TR; and now some laptops sold with Kylin or Deepin

11:30 schestowitz-TR; Kylin might be dead, it's Ubuntu based

11:31 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu is a drone of Pentagon contractors with their bailout money/subsidies (living off the taxpayers' debt)

11:31 schestowitz-TR; funny fact: former CEO of Canonical comes from military contractor

11:32 schestowitz-TR; Jane Silber IRIC

11:32 schestowitz-TR; nations that bleed themselves to death with debt

11:33 schestowitz-TR; to try to prevent Europe (ARM, well, Japan/KSA now), Russia and China taking the lead in tech

11:33 TR News; NEWS #TheNation How the American Dream Became Un-American https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/american-dream-plutocracy-unamerican/

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11:33 TR Bot; How the American Dream Became Un-American | The Nation

11:34 TR News; NEWS #TheNation #patent #patents #greed #cartel Pfizers Revenue Doubles: Its Nothing Short of Pandemic Profiteering https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/pfizer-pandemic-profiteering/

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11:34 TR Bot; Pfizers Revenue Doubles: Its Nothing Short of Pandemic Profiteering | The Nation

11:39 TR News; NEWS #Variety #DRM #Nintendo Switch Hacker Sentenced to More Than Three Years in Prison https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/nintendo-switch-hacker-sentenced-prison-1235178014/

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11:39 TR Bot; Switch Piracy Ring Leader Sentenced to 40 Months in Prison - Variety

11:45 TR News; NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DRM #ProprietarySoftware NPRs How I Built This Strikes Licensing Deal With Amazon Music, Wondery (Exclusive) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/npr-how-i-built-this-amazon-music-wondery-guy-raz-1235090757/

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11:45 TR Bot; NPRs How I Built This Strikes Ad Deal With Amazon Music, Wondery The Hollywood Reporter

11:45 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware #DRM #Amazon Music signs an exclusive deal with How I Built This https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/10/22927550/amazon-music-guy-raz-wondery-how-i-built-this

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11:45 TR Bot; Amazon Music signs an exclusive deal with How I Built This - The Verge

11:47 TR News; #RMS now open to the idea of #GNU expanding to #geminiSpace (remaining concern is, what priority and how to keep pages up to date wrt to #www GNU dot org)

11:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 22.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.15


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12:12 TR News; NEWS #CounterPunch #NetNeutrality Still Matters https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/10/net-neutrality-still-matters/

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12:12 TR Bot; Neutrality Still Matters - CounterPunch.org

12:13 TR News; NEWS #TruthOut #BigPharma Sought to Undermine #SouthAfrica Efforts to Produce #COVID19 #Vaccines https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-sought-to-undermine-south-african-efforts-to-produce-covid-vaccines/ https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/

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12:13 TR Bot; Big Pharma Sought to Undermine South African Efforts to Produce COVID Vaccines

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12:14 TR Bot; While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation

12:14 TR News; NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Microsoft (Minecraft) terrorism Russian court sentences 16-year-old to five years in prison over plot to blow up virtual FSB building in video game https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/10/minecraft-terrorism

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12:14 TR Bot; NO TITLE

12:15 TR News; NEWS #EFF Key Senators Have Voted For The Anti- #Encryption #EARNIT Act https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/key-senators-have-voted-anti-encryption-earn-it-act

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12:15 TR Bot; Key Senators Have Voted For The Anti-Encryption EARN IT Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation

12:18 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: I've just managed to optimise that pi400 some more

12:18 schestowitz-TR; to play videos quite smoothly over 1090p

12:19 schestowitz-TR; I really cannot tell much of a diff at this point between a laptop with celeron class CPU and this

12:19 psydroid2; it should work just fine, as I can play 1080p reasonably well on my Orange Pi that has 3 times as little compute power

12:19 psydroid2; yeah

12:20 psydroid2; and this is only the beginning

12:20 schestowitz-TR; no wonder Microsoft tries to submerge this

12:20 schestowitz-TR; it's easier than making vista 11++ leaner

12:21 schestowitz-TR; the incidents of last Jan 26th (IIRC) hopefully reminded rapi ltd that partnering with microsoft is suicide

12:21 schestowitz-TR; they walked back on it, as they had done in 2015

12:21 schestowitz-TR; microsoft will have a run on them again...

12:21 schestowitz-TR; they already manage to squeeze one infiltrator into the board

12:21 schestowitz-TR; not the literal board

12:22 schestowitz-TR; but the board of advisors/directors

12:22 schestowitz-TR; that's a lot less than Microsoft managed inside the 'Linux' Foundationb

12:23 psydroid2; but even then the default operating system available for RPi is some version of GNU/Linux

12:23 TR News; I wonder if Jim Zemlin thinks that criticising #kkk is "like kicking a puppy"...

12:24 psydroid2; I'm sure that Microsoft wants in on Raspi 5, when the threat is going to become real

12:24 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Sentenced to 40 Months in Prison https://torrentfreak.com/nintendo-hacker-gary-bowser-40-months-prison-sentence-220210/

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12:24 TR Bot; Hacker Gary Bowser Sentenced to 40 Months in Prison * TorrentFreak

12:24 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Police Arrest Man For Running Sharing Site Linking to Anime, Movies, TV Shows https://torrentfreak.com/police-arrest-man-for-running-pirate-site-linking-to-anime-movies-tv-shows-220210/

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12:24 TR Bot; Arrest Man For Running Pirate Site Linking to Anime, Movies, TV Shows * TorrentFreak

12:24 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: it won't ship until it runs Vista12

12:25 schestowitz-TR; PiePie Edition

12:25 schestowitz-TR; endorsed by the fake Linus

12:25 schestowitz-TR; LinusWindowsTips

12:25 psydroid2; the whole series came off as a hit piece sponsored by Microsoft

12:26 schestowitz-TR; ahead of steam deck

12:26 schestowitz-TR; the trollinus has a unit now

12:26 schestowitz-TR; he's preparing for launch date

12:26 schestowitz-TR; to say nasty things about steam deck

12:26 psydroid2; what is important is that the tables have turned

12:27 psydroid2; all these devices come shipped with GNU/Linux by default

12:27 psydroid2; so people have to put effort into making Vista run well on them

12:27 psydroid2; and fail because of a lack of support and drivers

12:27 schestowitz-TR; [16:45] <techrights-news> #Microsoft -connected media will smear and downplay and game perceptions around this product for weeks to come https://www.pcworld.com/article/394895/what-is-valve-proton-steam-deck-games-software-explained.html

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12:27 TR Bot; is Valve Proton? The Steam Deck's Linux software, explained | PCWorld

12:28 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CwaxwDhNMl4

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12:28 TR Bot; Linus just DROPPED his BRAND NEW Steam Deck... video - Invidious

12:28 schestowitz; geat ready for FUD show

12:28 chunky; BSD!

12:28 schestowitz; Uncle Bill and Microsoft look for "influencers

12:28 chunky; i HATE microsoft.. is that ok to say here??

12:28 schestowitz; Maybe valve will ship a whole crate of "Decks"

12:28 SomeH4x0r; dropped as in what?

12:28 schestowitz; to compete with Microsoft DRECKS

12:29 psydroid2; the real deal will be such a device shipped with an ARM or RISC-V SoC

12:29 SomeH4x0r; just as in when?

12:29 schestowitz; chunky: you cannot say that

12:29 psydroid2; because Microsoft won't have anything to run on it

12:29 SomeH4x0r; oh, nvm

12:29 chunky; o

12:29 SomeH4x0r; I treated the message as two separate lines

12:29 schestowitz; According to James and Sheela Zemlin (Microsoft resellers), that's "like kicking a puppy"

12:29 schestowitz; stop kicking puppies, please

12:29 *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)

12:30 schestowitz; https://www.computerworld.com/article/2743103/bashing-microsoft--like-kicking-a-puppy---says-linux-foundation-chief.html

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12:30 TR Bot; Microsoft 'like kicking a puppy,' says Linux Foundation chief | Computerworld

12:30 schestowitz; crime is puppy

12:30 schestowitz; stop bashing crime

12:30 schestowitz; or else

12:30 schestowitz; COC!

12:31 TR News; Jim #zelin = EGO problems http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4

12:31 TR News; Jim #zemlin = EGO problems http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4

12:32 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams Critics Warn of 'Lethal Impact on #Privacy ' as Senate Advances #EARNIT Act https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/critics-warn-lethal-impact-privacy-senate-advances-earn-it-act

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/critics-warn-lethal-impact-privacy-senate-advances-earn-it-act

12:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/critics-warn-lethal-impact-privacy-senate-advances-earn-it-act

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/critics-warn-lethal-impact-privacy-senate-advances-earn-it-act

12:32 TR Bot; Critics Warn of 'Lethal Impact on Privacy' as Senate Advances EARN IT Act

12:32 psydroid2; oh no, a COCPIC!

12:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/01/03/linux-kernel-code-of-conduct-committee/

http://techrights.org/2020/01/03/linux-kernel-code-of-conduct-committee/

12:33 TR Bot; The Linux Foundations Linux Kernel Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee is Now Officially Corporate | Techrights

12:38 TR News; NEWS #Shadowproof #UK Official Secrets Act Proposals Take Cues From US #EspionageAct Cases https://shadowproof.com/2022/02/10/uk-cues-us-government-official-secrets-act-expansion/

↺ https://shadowproof.com/2022/02/10/uk-cues-us-government-official-secrets-act-expansion/

12:38 TR Bot; UK War On Whistleblowers: The Push To Expand Official Secrets Laws

12:43 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #cartel #colonialism Documents Expose Pharma Effort to Kill Africa's Covid Vaccine Project https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/documents-expose-pharma-effort-kill-africas-covid-vaccine-project

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/documents-expose-pharma-effort-kill-africas-covid-vaccine-project

12:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/documents-expose-pharma-effort-kill-africas-covid-vaccine-project

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/10/documents-expose-pharma-effort-kill-africas-covid-vaccine-project

12:43 TR Bot; Documents Expose Pharma Effort to Kill Africa's Covid Vaccine Project

12:47 TR News; NEWS #PIA #Privacy Gambling with Our Privacy: New Report Shows the Reality of #Surveillance #Advertising https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/gambling-with-our-privacy-new-report-shows-the-reality-of-surveillance-advertising/

↺ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/gambling-with-our-privacy-new-report-shows-the-reality-of-surveillance-advertising/

12:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/gambling-with-our-privacy-new-report-shows-the-reality-of-surveillance-advertising/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/gambling-with-our-privacy-new-report-shows-the-reality-of-surveillance-advertising/

12:47 TR Bot; Gambling with Our Privacy: New Report Shows the Reality of Surveillance Advertising

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12:59 TR News; NEWS #DemocracyNow Dignity in the Digital Age: Rep. Khanna Calls for Wealth Tax & Decentralizing, Diversifying Big Tech https://www.democracynow.org/2022/2/10/rep_khanna_calls_for_wealth_tax "Big Tech"= #microsoft propaganda http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/2/10/rep_khanna_calls_for_wealth_tax

http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/

http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/

12:59 TR Bot; Dignity in the Digital Age: Rep. Khanna Calls for Wealth Tax & Decentralizing, Diversifying Big Tech | Democracy Now!

12:59 TR Bot; Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights

12:59 TR Bot; Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights


1 PM, February 11

13:00 TR News; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out #Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

13:00 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

13:06 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Nintendo Yes, It Really Was Nintendo That Slammed GilvaSunner #gulagTube Channel With #Copyright Strikes https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220209/10290248439/yes-it-really-was-nintendo-that-slammed-gilvasunner-youtube-channel-with-copyright-strikes.shtml

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220209/10290248439/yes-it-really-was-nintendo-that-slammed-gilvasunner-youtube-channel-with-copyright-strikes.shtml

13:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220209/10290248439/yes-it-really-was-nintendo-that-slammed-gilvasunner-youtube-channel-with-copyright-strikes.shtml

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220209/10290248439/yes-it-really-was-nintendo-that-slammed-gilvasunner-youtube-channel-with-copyright-strikes.shtml

13:06 TR Bot; It Really Was Nintendo That Slammed GilvaSunner YouTube Channel With Copyright Strikes | Techdirt

13:07 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Encryption Senator Blumenthal, After Years Of Denial, Admits He's Targeting Encryption With EARN IT https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/09311048445/senator-blumenthal-after-years-denial-admits-hes-targeting-encryption-with-earn-it.shtml

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/09311048445/senator-blumenthal-after-years-denial-admits-hes-targeting-encryption-with-earn-it.shtml

13:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/09311048445/senator-blumenthal-after-years-denial-admits-hes-targeting-encryption-with-earn-it.shtml

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/09311048445/senator-blumenthal-after-years-denial-admits-hes-targeting-encryption-with-earn-it.shtml

13:07 TR Bot; Blumenthal, After Years Of Denial, Admits He's Targeting Encryption With EARN IT | Techdirt

13:09 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Huawei #cn #china Surprise: U.S. Cost Of Ripping Out And Replacing Huawei Gear Jumps From $1.8 To $5.6 Billion https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220208/07123048434/surprise-us-cost-ripping-out-replacing-huawei-gear-jumps-18-to-56-billion.shtml

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220208/07123048434/surprise-us-cost-ripping-out-replacing-huawei-gear-jumps-18-to-56-billion.shtml

13:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220208/07123048434/surprise-us-cost-ripping-out-replacing-huawei-gear-jumps-18-to-56-billion.shtml

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220208/07123048434/surprise-us-cost-ripping-out-replacing-huawei-gear-jumps-18-to-56-billion.shtml

13:09 TR Bot; U.S. Cost Of Ripping Out And Replacing Huawei Gear Jumps From $1.8 To $5.6 Billion | Techdirt

13:10 TR News; False dichotomy: we should choose between equipment that CAN spy for #china and equipment that DOES spy for TRUMPLAND. Reality: we should reject both and use #freesw on general purpose equipment, which can be audited.

13:14 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #israel #espionage #cracking #darkSector Yet Another Israeli Malware Manufacturer Found Selling To Human Rights Abusers, Targeting iPhones https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220206/13511248426/yet-another-israeli-malware-manufacturer-found-selling-to-human-rights-abusers-targeting-iphones.shtml

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220206/13511248426/yet-another-israeli-malware-manufacturer-found-selling-to-human-rights-abusers-targeting-iphones.shtml

13:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220206/13511248426/yet-another-israeli-malware-manufacturer-found-selling-to-human-rights-abusers-targeting-iphones.shtml

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220206/13511248426/yet-another-israeli-malware-manufacturer-found-selling-to-human-rights-abusers-targeting-iphones.shtml

13:14 TR Bot; Another Israeli Malware Manufacturer Found Selling To Human Rights Abusers, Targeting iPhones | Techdirt

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13:22 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Court (For Now) Says #NYTimes Can Publish #ProjectVeritas Documents https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/11300448447/court-now-says-ny-times-can-publish-project-veritas-documents.shtml

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/11300448447/court-now-says-ny-times-can-publish-project-veritas-documents.shtml

13:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/11300448447/court-now-says-ny-times-can-publish-project-veritas-documents.shtml

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220210/11300448447/court-now-says-ny-times-can-publish-project-veritas-documents.shtml

13:22 TR Bot; (For Now) Says NY Times Can Publish Project Veritas Documents | Techdirt

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13:23 TR News; "Everyone should start using, "Microsoft GitHub", instead of "GitHub" to reenforce to the open source community the cost of using that repository service." https://social.librem.one/@lwriemen/107763875200185671 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github

↺ https://social.librem.one/@lwriemen/107763875200185671

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github

13:23 TR Bot; Lee Riemenschneider: "Everyone should start using, "Microsoft GitHub", " - Librem Social

13:23 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights

13:24 TR News; #drm https://mastodon.technology/@rysiek/107770879404396538 see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/

↺ https://mastodon.technology/@rysiek/107770879404396538

http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/

13:24 TR Bot; Rysiekr Memesson: "Internet of Shit, Mazda radio edition: https://ww" - Mastodon for Tech Folks

↺ https://ww"

13:24 TR Bot; Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights

13:25 TR News; "after going to 12ft.io and getting a "we have seen unusual activity from your network" (haven't been there in months) and seeing that it seems to be doing something akin to the venture capatialist dance." https://icosahedron.website/@Truck/107763950659947299

↺ https://icosahedron.website/@Truck/107763950659947299

13:25 TR Bot; Sir Garbagetruck: "in related info: bloomberg.ca doesn't have the" - Icosahedron

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13:26 TR News; "Can child pornography be investigated without indiscriminate IP #dataretention?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107768481430455955

↺ https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107768481430455955

13:26 TR Bot; Breyer: "Can child pornography be investigated without ind" - chaos.social

13:26 TR News; The automated scanning of private communications (#chatcontrol) constitutes a disproportionate interference with the very essence of the fundamental right to privacy. https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107768139041213613

↺ https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107768139041213613

13:26 TR Bot; Breyer: " The automated scanning of private communicati" - chaos.social

13:27 bnchs; brave ads are a trap

13:28 bnchs; they only exist so that brave can profit off of you and only give you BAT (which is useless shit and the value is still less than a dollar)

13:28 TR News; #socialcontrolmedia and use of "pr0n" for oppressive new measures https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/09/reddit-and-twitter-users-face-age-checks-under-uk-porn-law-plans

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/09/reddit-and-twitter-users-face-age-checks-under-uk-porn-law-plans

13:28 TR Bot; Reddit and Twitter users face age checks under UK porn law plans | Pornography | The Guardian

13:32 TR News; #abovethelaw spreading #freesw FUD https://abovethelaw.com/2022/02/how-legal-engineering-teams-can-collaborate-to-reduce-open-source-risk/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/

↺ https://abovethelaw.com/2022/02/how-legal-engineering-teams-can-collaborate-to-reduce-open-source-risk/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/

13:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: abovethelaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://abovethelaw.com/2022/02/how-legal-engineering-teams-can-collaborate-to-reduce-open-source-risk/

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://abovethelaw.com/2022/02/how-legal-engineering-teams-can-collaborate-to-reduce-open-source-risk/

13:32 TR Bot; How Legal, Engineering Teams Can Collaborate To Reduce Open Source Risk - Above the LawAbove the Law

13:32 TR Bot; White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on Open Source Security | Techrights

13:33 bnchs; i like how they use log4j as a scapegoat so that they start using proprietary software

13:34 TR News; Microsoft sites uses VMware for Linux FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32792

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32792

13:34 TR Bot; VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines

13:38 TR News; iophk repoprs "even more government 'tweets' in place of unfiltered, official channels". #twitter #socialcontrolmedia = MANIPULATION and DISTORTION filter.

13:38 schestowitz; x http://www.xbill.org/

↺ http://www.xbill.org/

13:38 TR Bot; XBill

13:39 schestowitz; bnchs: true

13:44 bnchs; https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-2002/version_id-461423/Microsoft-.net-Framework-4.0.html

↺ https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-2002/version_id-461423/Microsoft-.net-Framework-4.0.html

13:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cvedetails.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-2002/version_id-461423/Microsoft-.net-Framework-4.0.html

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-2002/version_id-461423/Microsoft-.net-Framework-4.0.html

13:44 TR Bot; Microsoft .net Framework version 4.0 : Security vulnerabilities

13:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.22

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13:57 TR News; Latest #Plasma Lands in Tumbleweed, Set for Leap Beta Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161334 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161334

13:57 TR Bot; Latest Plasma Lands in Tumbleweed, Set for Leap Beta | Tux Machines

13:57 TR News; 7 Best #FreeSW Status Page Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161335 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161335

13:57 TR Bot; 7 Best Free and Open Source Status Page Systems | Tux Machines

13:58 TR News; It is worth remembering that as #EPO President #BenotBattistelli openly admitted that he had managed to turn his supervisors into rubber-stampers (mostly by bribing and blackmailing them) http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/battistelli-boasted-about-collusion/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/battistelli-boasted-about-collusion/

13:58 TR Bot; [Meme] Reminder That Battistelli Openly Boasted (in the Media) About the EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion | Techrights


2 PM, February 11

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14:37 TR News; Should You Use a New, Obscure Linux Distro or Stick With the Mainstream Ones? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161336 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161336

14:37 TR Bot; Should You Use a New, Obscure Linux Distro or Stick With the Mainstream Ones? | Tux Machines

14:38 TR News; 8 Best #notetaking apps for Linux such as #Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161337 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161337

14:38 TR Bot; 8 Best note-taking apps for Linux such as Ubuntu | Tux Machines

14:38 TR News; #Darktable 3.8.1 Released with Faster Heal Tool, New Noise Profiles, and Many Bug Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161338 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161338

14:38 TR Bot; Darktable 3.8.1 Released with Faster Heal Tool, New Noise Profiles, and Many Bug Fixes | Tux Machines

14:38 TR News; interview

14:39 TR News; #LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Thorsten Behrens at allotropia Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161339 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161339

14:39 TR Bot; LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Thorsten Behrens at allotropia | Tux Machines

14:39 TR News; #RapidDisk 8.1.0 now available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161340 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161340

14:39 TR Bot; RapidDisk 8.1.0 now available | Tux Machines

14:39 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161342 #Linux #TuxMachines

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161342

14:39 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines


3 PM, February 11

15:01 MinceR; 11 142813 < bnchs> they only exist so that brave can profit off of you and only give you BAT (which is useless shit and the value is still less than a dollar)

15:02 MinceR; it doesn't even work

15:02 MinceR; i dragged the damned symbol ~20 times to where it told me to drag it, then i gave up and disabled brave rewards

15:03 MinceR; also, the passive popup remains on screen even if the browser isn't, or if a video is put into fullscreen

15:05 bnchs; made by the creator of javascript

15:06 TR News; Users say that Firefox 97 fixes hardware video acceleration issues on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161226#comment-32793

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161226#comment-32793

15:06 TR Bot; Firefox 97 Released with a Modest Collection of Changes | Tux Machines

15:09 bnchs; i heard of stories where you can't exchange your BAT to real money

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15:09 MinceR; i just let it be automatically contributed

15:09 MinceR; back when i could actually get some

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15:10 bnchs; BAT is literally just scrip

15:10 bnchs; artifical value

15:12 bnchs; oh wait

15:12 bnchs; "Verify your identity To access your Brave balances, you'll need to verify your identity on Uphold. When starting the verification process, please have a valid government-issued photo ID, and be ready to take a live selfie with your laptop or phone camera."

15:12 bnchs; you can payout, you just have to deanonymize yourself

15:12 bnchs; good private currency

15:13 SomeH4x0r; people just have to understand evildoers can make "privacy" claims as well

15:14 SomeH4x0r; and if a big company claims it doesn't track you, it should be *more* suspicious

15:14 bnchs; so BAT is private until you want to exchange it for money

15:17 bnchs; they have added gemini (not related to the protocol but the crypto exchange site), and that site also requires government ID aswell

15:18 bnchs; so BAT is not a real cryptocurrency, centralized to brave and only 2 exchange sites, and not private due to the sites being KYC

15:18 bnchs; is this just virtual scrip

15:19 SomeH4x0r; just paying you for providing your data, so they can abuse it later

15:20 SomeH4x0r; new "currencies" these days should not be trusted

15:22 MinceR; maybe you can convert it to some other cryptocurrency or move it elsewhere without using Uphold

15:22 MinceR; but who cares, the whole system is fragile as hell and won't run on any of the BSD-s

15:23 bnchs; MinceR, unfortunately not

15:24 bnchs; and theres gonna be a problem if you're banned from the 2 "approved" exchange sites

15:24 bnchs; all your BAT is gonna be useless

15:24 MinceR; ic

15:25 bnchs; and there is some people banned from exchanging

15:28 bnchs; "On 12 June 2019, Brave blocked forum Kiwi Farms from the Brave Rewards platform. Brave Software came under the impression that Kiwi Farms had infringed Section 5 of Terms of Service of Brave Software for BAT"

15:29 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22020356

↺ https://ircz.de/p/22020356

15:29 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/d5yrxn7hv9e81.jpg created on 2022-02-03 18:30:55.795624

↺ https://i.redd.it/d5yrxn7hv9e81.jpg

15:29 bnchs; Brave can block people from using Brave Rewards

15:29 XRevan86; https://wired.com/story/how-telegram-became-anti-facebook/ cc: activelow

↺ https://wired.com/story/how-telegram-became-anti-facebook/

15:29 TR Bot; Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook | WIRED

15:29 SomeH4x0r; people need to understand there is *no* good web browser

15:29 MinceR; +

15:30 bnchs; "In particular, we will not contribute BAT we own to any person or organization, who in our sole judgement:

15:30 bnchs; (a) engages in or advocates for violence, online or offline,

15:30 bnchs; (b) directly incites violence against individuals or groups, online or offline, or

15:30 bnchs; (c) directly threatens any person, place, organization or group."

15:30 bnchs; this is a part of that section (section 5)

15:31 SomeH4x0r; banning for out-of-service activity is privilege abuse. The only exception is if the intentions are clear (e.g. spambot scanning the entire IPv4 range and sending spam all around, can be banned immediately)

15:31 bnchs; it's just pseudo-currency

15:32 bnchs; that they control the users and value of

15:32 SomeH4x0r; I don't think it is "pseudocurrency" unless you apply the same term to online banking in general

15:32 MinceR; :>

15:32 bnchs; it's mining scrip

15:32 MinceR; and fiat currencies

15:33 MinceR; which are controlled by one state each, or the euro-zone in the case of EUR

15:33 bnchs; not really pseudo-currency

15:34 bnchs; they can take away your money at any time

15:35 bnchs; or even if they don't, the 2 approved exchanges can ban you

15:36 SomeH4x0r; bank accounts can be frozen as well. The government can take away your rights easily.

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15:37 bnchs; SomeH4x0r, at least you can keep the money in physical form

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15:40 SomeH4x0r; might not be the case anymore at later point

15:41 kingoffrance; "(a) engages in or advocates for violence, online or offline," so basically noone who is part of any state or government or lives underneath any government can use it

15:41 kingoffrance; so the userbase is: noone

15:42 kingoffrance; angels in heaven

15:42 SomeH4x0r; I think it is more likely a "polite" way to say "we can ban you anytime, and fuck off"

15:42 kingoffrance; ^^^ yeah

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15:46 TR News; Links 11/2/2022: #RapidDisk 8.1.0 and #Darktable 3.8.1 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/darktable-3-8-1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/darktable-3-8-1/

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15:46 TR Bot; Links 11/2/2022: RapidDisk 8.1.0 and Darktable 3.8.1 | Techrights

15:47 bnchs; they already banned Kiwi Farms

15:47 bnchs; specifically Joshua Moon the owner of kiwi farms

15:47 TR News; #DigitalRestrictions ( #DRM ) and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161343 #TuxMachines

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15:47 TR Bot; Digital Restrictions (DRM) and More | Tux Machines

15:47 TR News; #ProprietarySoftware and #Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161344 #TuxMachines

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15:47 TR Bot; Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines

15:48 bnchs; kingoffrance: "engages in violence offline" is vague anyway

15:48 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161345 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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15:48 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

15:48 bnchs; does it mean if you fight someone in a bar, you get your wallet blocked?

15:48 TR News; #Chromium /Chrome and #Mozilla / #Firefox Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161346 #TuxMachines

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15:48 TR Bot; Chromium/Chrome and Mozilla/Firefox | Tux Machines

15:49 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161347 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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15:49 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

15:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 37.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.28

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4 PM, February 11

16:03 kingoffrance; " When starting the verification process, please have a valid government-issued photo ID" well combined with that.....one can see it has a very war is peace vibe

16:05 kingoffrance; i mean, only a statist could come up with such nonsense

16:05 MinceR; there are way too many statists

16:06 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2202034

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16:06 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/m5extej8j5f81.png created on 2022-02-03 01:45:54.368099

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16:36 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/fecabook.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/meka-friends-at-fecabook/ )

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16:36 TR Bot; Meka friends at fecabook!

16:38 TR News; #Windows and #Wintel (x86) Are Too Fat, and Not Evolving Fast Enough, to Actually Survive Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/

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16:38 TR Bot; Windows and Wintel (x86) Are Too Fat, and Not Evolving Fast Enough, to Actually Survive | Techrights

16:50 XFaCE; schestowitz: have you heard of yggdrasil?

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16:50 XFaCE; it is another internet alternative

16:50 XFaCE; mesh network


5 PM, February 11

17:03 bnchs; you can't make a bag of trash slim down

17:04 bnchs; it's decades full of technical debt

17:04 bnchs; look at how many *Ex functions they have

17:06 bnchs; theres even CreateWindowExA and CreateWindowExW

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17:16 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/Ji4AXiR.jpeg

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17:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Ji4AXiR.jpeg

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17:21 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/agency-finds-no-error-as-scammer-steals-15k-from-excluded-workers-fund-for-luxury-watches/

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17:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/agency-finds-no-error-as-scammer-steals-15k-from-excluded-workers-fund-for-luxury-watches/

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17:21 TR Bot; Agency Finds No Error as Scammer Steals $15K from Excluded Workers Fund for Luxury Watches

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17:46 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/idiot.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/one-of-americas-largest-exports/ )

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17:46 TR Bot; One of Americas largest exports

17:49 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.33

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17:57 bnchs; my college used microsoft teams, i told them i had no internet connection at home

17:57 MinceR; :>

17:58 bnchs; thankfully it was optional


6 PM, February 11

18:09 bnchs; online school is shit anyway

18:10 bnchs; i remember my phone being off at night, and when i woke up, i realized i missed an entire class

18:12 Ariadne; schestowitz: moving day has arrived, i need to move techrights to the new NAS, as the old NAS is being pulled tomorrow morning

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18:24 bnchs; i remember my parents forcing me to login to microsoft teams, but it didn't work because the microsoft teams password was outdated. i guess it was good it didn't work

18:24 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/retard-condoms.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/theyre-reusable/ )

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18:24 TR Bot; Theyre reusable!

18:27 SomeH4x0r; fuck the governments, parents, evil schools, and other stuff

18:28 SomeH4x0r; I'd prefer if they never bothered me with their ways to do computing

18:28 bnchs; and my phone crashes everytime i try to use it with a SIM card, it also means no whatsapp

18:29 SomeH4x0r; I don't want to live in such a fucked up world

18:30 bnchs; wtf i was watching a moroccan tutorial on how to use microsoft teams for schools

18:30 bnchs; the guy said something important

18:30 SomeH4x0r; of course you will say things like activism or whatever, but not like it is possible. Not only people are turning eviler, but I also have more socializing issues than others do

18:30 bnchs; "This is not new. Microsoft already has connections to our education ministry since 2010"

18:30 bnchs; s/education ministry/government

18:32 bnchs; "Which makes the schools use stuff like Microsoft Office, and Excel, and PowerPoint"

18:32 bnchs; "They use it for free"

18:32 MinceR; classic MICROS~1

18:32 SomeH4x0r; here they often use unlicensed ones on their computers

18:32 MinceR; induct the children into the cult early, make them dependent when they're defenseless

18:32 MinceR; other cults do the same

18:33 SomeH4x0r; imho the entire thing with children is legalized slavery or whatever

18:33 SomeH4x0r; when some other people can decide things for you

18:34 TR News; 5 Better #USENET Readers for #GNULinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161348 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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18:34 TR Bot; 5 Better USENET Readers for Linux | Tux Machines

18:34 TR News; #KDE Apps Update February 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161349 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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18:34 TR Bot; KDE Apps Update February 2022 | Tux Machines

18:34 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.16.9, 5.15.23, 5.10.100, 5.4.179, 4.19.229, 4.14.266, and 4.9.301 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161350 #GPL #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines

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18:34 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.16.9, 5.15.23, 5.10.100, 5.4.179, 4.19.229, 4.14.266, and 4.9.301 | Tux Machines

18:35 bnchs; the 2010 part is what's interesting, since most of the government website i see use a ASP.NET version from 2010

18:35 SomeH4x0r; humans don't need to reproduce

18:36 TR News; GNU/Linux and BSD platforms with a small memory (RAM) footprint and low CPU/clocking requirements are the way to go; Microsoft and x86 duopolies are in trouble Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/ #Techrights #Windows #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/wintel-not-evolving-fast-enough/

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18:36 TR Bot; Windows and Wintel (x86) Are Too Fat, and Not Evolving Fast Enough, to Actually Survive | Techrights

18:37 SomeH4x0r; evolving?

18:43 bnchs; everything went to shit when morocco sold their soul to microsoft

18:44 MinceR; everything went to shit when the human species appeared

18:44 bnchs; maybe that aswell

18:44 TR News; "Additionally, #SpaceHaven was just recently rated as "Playable" for the Steam Deck. For it to get up to "Verified" it would need better gamepad support and not needing you to manually invoke the on-screen keyboard." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/sci-fi-building-and-crew-management-sim-space-haven-alpha-14-is-out/

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18:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/sci-fi-building-and-crew-management-sim-space-haven-alpha-14-is-out/

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18:44 TR Bot; building and crew management sim Space Haven Alpha 14 is out | GamingOnLinux

18:44 SomeH4x0r; or maybe when life appeared on Earth

18:45 SomeH4x0r; no meaning, just endless reproduction and evolving

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18:45 TR News; Is this an ad or an article? Feels like the former... https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/cityslicker-is-an-upcoming-high-end-case-for-the-steam-deck/

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18:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/cityslicker-is-an-upcoming-high-end-case-for-the-steam-deck/

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18:45 TR Bot; is an upcoming high-end case for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

18:46 bnchs; "cityslicker"

18:47 schestowitz; Ariadne: OK, what time is that planned for?

18:47 bnchs; Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.

18:47 Ariadne; schestowitz: what time is good for you? it needs to be within next 12 hrs or so

18:47 SomeH4x0r; bnchs: maybe banned from there. I'd not trust the big company behind it.

18:48 SomeH4x0r; "Alternative" as an "alternative MITM"

18:48 schestowitz; what is the estimated downtime?

18:49 bnchs; SomeH4x0r, no i'm not banned from web.archive.org, i tested it out with gnu.org

18:49 SomeH4x0r; I mean the website being banned

18:49 bnchs; oh

18:49 schestowitz; at around 2am-4am my time there are critical cron jobs, but at 4:20am it's all done

18:50 bnchs; or maybe the website owner DMCA'd archive.org

18:50 bnchs; it's odd for them to exclude sites for no reason

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18:51 SomeH4x0r; hi

18:51 DaemonFC; gm

18:51 Ariadne; schestowitz: 60 to 90 minutes, the raw disk image is 1tb

18:51 DaemonFC; Me, on Facebook (WGN): I heard that New Zealand was pretty strict. Of course, most people who judge the US for its crime have absolutely no idea why the crime actually happens here. It's because our courts play it off, especially when there's a politically correct reason to let a suspected murderer out on ankle monitoring, so they can lose them and they resurface 8 months later with three more murders.

18:51 schestowitz; ah,a lot faster than I thought :-)

18:52 schestowitz; so maybe 4:20am? gives me time to post a headsup in the site, too

18:52 DaemonFC; "We'll monitor him. Then when he pries it off, the officers will know where he was two hours ago when they finally respond." - They don't know how criminals think. "Oh I'll just stay at my cousin's and they'll never find me."

18:54 Ariadne; 4:20am gmt?

18:54 DaemonFC; I think the problem is that not enough judges have been crime victims. Or even have to live in bad neighborhoods. They went to Harvard and Yale and make six figures a year, and live in gated communities that force the bad guys to stay out with rent-a-cops, and so they see the situation like a scientist trying to study something second hand through a device.

18:54 TR News; "Another native Linux build arrives. This time we have Encased: A Sci-Fi Post-Apocalyptic #RPG from Dark Crystal Games. Not only have they released it for #Linux , they've also now hooked up gamepad support and so it should end up working quite nicely on the Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/encased-a-sci-fi-post-apocalyptic-rpg-released-for-linux-plus-gamepad-support

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18:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/encased-a-sci-fi-post-apocalyptic-rpg-released-for-linux-plus-gamepad-support

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18:54 TR Bot; A Sci-Fi Post-Apocalyptic RPG released for Linux plus gamepad support | GamingOnLinux

18:55 schestowitz; Ariadne: yes, 5:20CET and I think in NYC 11:20pm

18:55 DaemonFC; <bnchs> "cityslicker"

18:55 DaemonFC; Reminds me again, I need my city sticker.

18:55 Ariadne; ok

18:55 kingoffrance; i think its strange sites that dont want to be archived, but i believe it is just robots.txt

18:55 DaemonFC; I don't want $200 fines starting to appear on my windshield.

18:55 schestowitz; it's also a quiet time for IRC ^_^

18:56 schestowitz; thanks, I will post something to that effect, gemini will be available in the meantime

18:56 DaemonFC; It says I should mail the form ATTN: Traffic Police.

18:56 DaemonFC; I wonder if ATTN: Traffic Enforcement Pigs or ATTN: Traffic Nazis would work too.

18:56 DaemonFC; Probably in getting me pulled over more.

18:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz, So our landlord's apartments over on Grand Ave got a home invader the other day.

18:57 DaemonFC; We almost moved in over there.

18:58 DaemonFC; I thought, "Why oh why don't these people have a gun?" and then I read that the guy didn't even have to bust down the door or anything. He knocked, and said he was a city worker, and they just let him in.

18:59 DaemonFC; When someone says they're a city worker, and especially if you look through the peephole and it's this: https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/10/round-lake-man-charged-with-impersonating-police-officer-committing-home-invasion-in-waukegan/

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18:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/10/round-lake-man-charged-with-impersonating-police-officer-committing-home-invasion-in-waukegan/

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18:59 TR Bot; Round Lake man charged with impersonating police officer, committing home invasion in Waukegan

18:59 DaemonFC; Oh, they changed the story.

18:59 DaemonFC; THIS GUY said he was a police officer. LOL


7 PM, February 11

19:01 DaemonFC; This is exactly why I have several locks on the door. If they start trying to break it down, it gives me time to grab a gun out of the safe, load it, and shoot them. If I have to. Meanwhile, they'd be out there for 10 or 15 minutes making a hell of a lot of noise. And they'll be a lot better off if the police get 'em first.

19:03 DaemonFC; I have no idea how people are this stupid, that they live HERE and I keep reading about "Oh, I thought it was a cop so I let them in." or worse, "Yeah, he sneaked into my house.... No I didn't lock the door.".

19:03 DaemonFC; Most criminals will just move on to some easier victim if you do the slightest thing to deter them, like locking your doors or not leaving the car running at the gas pump.

19:04 DaemonFC; Bruce Schneier covered this, I believe.

19:04 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/french-flies.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/more-refined-than-domestic-flies/ )

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19:04 TR Bot; More refined than domestic flies

19:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz, If EARN IT passes, then more people should use Tor and Tox.

19:04 DaemonFC; It's harder to break a stick in a bundle.

19:05 DaemonFC; For any site that doesn't require you to log in, or else it won't work at all, that's already not a terrible idea.

19:06 DaemonFC; Facebook has a Hidden Service on Tor, amusingly enough.

19:06 DaemonFC; The purpose is not privacy, it's to evade bans targeting Facebook in entire countries.

19:07 DaemonFC; The government sees Facebook as an endless source of information. People are informing on themselves all the time. They admit to crimes or at least leave evidence laying around everywhere.

19:08 DaemonFC; The feds have arrested and pursued charges against 765 people according to the last article I read, regarding January 6th.

19:08 DaemonFC; But their evidence is mostly people carrying their cell phones on them while they were in the buildings and taking pictures of themselves where they should not have been and posting them to Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

19:09 DaemonFC; After that, in a far distant second, is the always popular "people who didn't like them calling the police to say 'hey, that's him!'".

19:09 DaemonFC; Everyone out there has enemies.

19:10 DaemonFC; Enemies that will use anything they can to hurt them with.

19:10 DaemonFC; In at least one case, it was a battered woman in North Carolina that the local cops weren't doing anything about her husband.

19:11 DaemonFC; So she calls the feds and reports him for being in the riot, and they haul him off, and she goes to divorce court and he can't respond because he's in jail.

19:12 DaemonFC; Then, they go and look at all of the state mugshot and motor vehicle department records, matching faces.

19:12 kingoffrance; well the funny part is they call people "keyboard warriors"

19:12 DaemonFC; So there's not much you can do about some ways in which the government can find and attack you and gather evidence, but there are some things you can do.

19:12 kingoffrance; looks like that's the cops

19:13 kingoffrance; its meant to provoke ppl

19:13 DaemonFC; They could have not been there, obviously, but they could have also worn a handkerchief and some sunglasses and not bragged on social control media, and not taken their phone.

19:14 DaemonFC; Pride goeth before a fall.....

19:14 DaemonFC; People who want to gloat and don't think they'll get in trouble generally don't plan for not being in trouble later.

19:15 DaemonFC; Obscuring their faces would have taken away the ability to point and say "That was me! I was there! I did that!".

19:15 DaemonFC; So empty boasting is getting these people months or years in jail.

19:16 DaemonFC; Trump is now dangling pardons, maybe, three years from now. But their sentence will be carried out before then. And he could have pardoned them all in one letter for 14 days in January of last year, and didn't.

19:17 kingoffrance; part of politicianing is surely offer solutions to problems you create

19:17 DaemonFC; Pardons don't actually do much for you after the sentence is over with. Like, I could write the Governor of Illinois asking for a pardon, and if somehow I got one, all it would do is qualify me for a records expungement.

19:17 DaemonFC; Which I already have as part of my plea deal.

19:19 DaemonFC; And taking a pardon is admitting that you were guilty, which is worse than where I'm already at, because I plead no contest, which legally means I do not admit guilt, I'm just agreeing to accept punishment because I probably couldn't win outright in court.

19:19 DaemonFC; <kingoffrance> part of politicianing is surely offer solutions to problems you create

19:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, but I'd just recommend getting an expungement if you don't already have a criminal record dating back before the incident.

19:20 DaemonFC; Taking one admits you were wrong. When the government offers one, it's almost always political.

19:20 DaemonFC; Like, the UK offered pardons to people convicted of homosexuality, and many rejected the pardons. Refused to take them.

19:21 DaemonFC; LIke, "Fuck you. I didn't do anything wrong. Keep your stupid pardon!".

19:21 DaemonFC; But they also grant them to people who are dead, who they know can't refuse them and make a statement about why they refused one

19:22 DaemonFC; They drove Alan Turing to commit suicide after forcing chemical sterilization on him, for the convenience of society at the time. Holding him to their standards.

19:22 DaemonFC; Then years after he killed himself, oh here's a pardon. You're still guilty, but here's a pardon.

19:23 DaemonFC; It's always easier to give pardons to dead people, so it's what usually happens. They don't want an incident.

19:23 DaemonFC; The UK pardoned Turing for being driven to suicide by the state. How magnanimous of them.

19:24 DaemonFC; Trump gave one to women who were found guilty of voting.

19:24 DaemonFC; Like, let's just rip open old wounds.

19:25 DaemonFC; Next, naturally, is a pardon for slaves who were guilty of escaping and violating the Fugitive Slave Act, I guess.

19:25 DaemonFC; The irony of pardoning people for violating unjust laws, and thus finding them guilty with no further recourse, is lost on idiot politicians who are almost always conservatives.

19:26 DaemonFC; In their minds, they bury the hatchet, because they have no deep understanding of the legal system, or they hope their voters don't.

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19:32 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: proofread?

19:32 DaemonFC; Yeah.

19:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/sir-paul-mahoney-track-record/

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19:33 TR Bot; Where Sir Paul Mahoney Has Failed to Protect EPO Staff From Injustice and Sheer Abuse | Techrights

19:33 schestowitz; cheers

19:34 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/lj3qb4U

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19:34 TR Bot; for their portrait - Album on Imgur

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19:37 DaemonFC; Looks okay.

19:37 schestowitz-TR; cheers!

19:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I might write about the EARN IT Act.

19:38 schestowitz-TR; go for it

19:38 schestowitz-TR; important topic

19:38 DaemonFC; It pretty much jsut codifies what companies like GAFAM do anyway. They'll try to justify it as such.

19:38 TR News; Valves next release is EXCLUSIVE to the Nintendo Switch. And I think its brilliant. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0z9GLqN807A #video #invidious #gnu #linux

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19:38 TR Bot; Valve's next release is EXCLUSIVE to the Nintendo Switch. And I think it's brilliant. - Invidious

19:38 DaemonFC; They're trying to use this as an anti-competition law. They don't want any alternatives popping up which do give users more privacy.

19:39 DaemonFC; Because it will be illegal to do so.

19:39 TR News; Run Windows Software On #GNU #Linux With Bottles - OSTechNix https://ostechnix.com/run-windows-software-on-linux-with-bottles/ #OSTechNix #GNULinux #FreeSW

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19:39 TR Bot; Windows Software On Linux With Bottles - OSTechNix

19:40 TR News; Where Sir #PaulMahoney Has Failed to Protect #EPO Staff From Injustice and Sheer Abuse Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/sir-paul-mahoney-track-record/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/sir-paul-mahoney-track-record/

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19:40 schestowitz-TR; it is "bipartisan"

19:41 schestowitz-TR; the lobbyists and special interests get one corrupt politician from each "major" (bought) party

19:42 bnchs; techrights-news> Valves next release is EXCLUSIVE to the Nintendo Switch. And I think its brilliant. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0z9GLqN807A #video #invidious #gnu #linux

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19:42 bnchs; how is this related to gnu/linux

19:42 DaemonFC; Uphold waits, apparently, until the last day they can legally issue tax forms.

19:42 DaemonFC; What a pain in the ass.

19:42 DaemonFC; Lots of people not happy about this on Reddit.

19:43 DaemonFC; Of course, it gets drowned out because of all of the people saying Uphold is stealing their money or their account got hacked and nobody from Uphold will respond to them.

19:43 DaemonFC; This is the only exchange that you can verify and link a Brave BAT wallet to.

19:43 DaemonFC; Super sketchy.

19:43 bnchs; DaemonFC: other than Gemini

19:43 bnchs; which is also KYC

19:44 DaemonFC; Congress is considering a bill that would allow people with less than $200 worth of gains or losses in crypto to not have to report it to the IRS.

19:44 DaemonFC; My only guess is the IRS isn't happy getting all of these 1099 statements because someone had $1 worth of activity or something.

19:45 DaemonFC; But the tax laws require it. So they're probably asking Congress to make it stop in those cases.

19:46 DaemonFC; The IRS has never particularly wanted to spend time untangling miscellaneous income under $600 a year from any particular source. So they don't require a 1099 for most things that bring in less than that.

19:46 DaemonFC; You still have to report it, but typically you don't get a 1099-MISC about it.

19:47 DaemonFC; If you get a 1099 from anyone, you need to attach it because the IRS got the information too.

19:48 DaemonFC; For most individual filers, W-2, 1099-MISC, 1099-INT, 1099-B, and 1099-C are the most likely forms they'll encounter at some point.

19:49 DaemonFC; Many people don't realize it, but agreeing to settle an old collections account for less than full value is probably a bad idea. Especially if it's so old that it won't be possible to sue over if they continue to not acknowledge the debt.

19:50 DaemonFC; Say you have a $20,000 bill from the hospital. You live in Indiana and the statute on lawsuits is 6 years. It's been 8 years. You get a bill in the mail from a collection agency saying they'll settle it today for $8,000.

19:50 DaemonFC; So you send them the $8,000. Next January you get a 1099-C for $12,000 of canceled debt (or maybe more if the collection agency claimed to have added interest and then "forgave" the interest it made up).

19:51 DaemonFC; Then you owe the IRS taxes on $12,000+ of additional income for the year and you have a tax problem, on top of the $8,000 the collection agency got. All for something they could never have collected on if you just hung up or threw the bill in the trash.

19:52 DaemonFC; The collection agency is laughing at you because they got more than they paid for the account, which was probably $100 or less if other debt collectors had long since given up on it and sold it as unrecoverable debt.

19:53 DaemonFC; The IRS is happy because you have taxable income.

19:53 DaemonFC; The government has no reason to fix healthcare.

19:53 TR News; "Another title that was funded via Kickstarter, it's good to see official #GNU #Linux support has not only stuck around but available so early on with a Demo available for play-testing right now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/mask-of-the-rose-from-failbetter-games-has-a-demo-up-now/

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19:53 TR Bot; of the Rose from Failbetter Games has a demo up now | GamingOnLinux

19:53 DaemonFC; As long as people are strongarmed or feel that way about settling, it's money for the tax department every year, even though the bill was based on exorbitantly inflated hospital prices that no insurance company would have paid.

19:54 DaemonFC; So folks with a $100,000 hospital bill may be threatened that they can settle for $30,000 or be sued, so they settle and try to start making payments, and then they get a 1099-C in January for $70,000 in additional income, and now owe the IRS $14,000.

19:55 DaemonFC; Those ads on the radio about the IRS fresh start plan where you wonder how an electrician or a plumber or a nurse gets in that deep with the IRS.....happens to my mother almost every year.

19:55 DaemonFC; She has some hospital after her and "settles" and gets a 1099-C.

19:56 DaemonFC; Then the IRS notices that there's thousands of dollars in 1099-C income she didn't report, and they DO investigate that.

19:56 DaemonFC; Then she gets a letter stating they're correcting her tax return and how would she like to pay them...

19:57 DaemonFC; If it's something that's relatively small (up to several thousand dollars), they just want the money and usually don't go after it as a criminal offense.

19:57 DaemonFC; But nobody likes interest and penalties.

19:58 DaemonFC; My mom's ex was going on and on about how the IRS "cheated him" out of his money. I said, "You didn't file returns for those years and by the time you did, it was too late to get most of the money. You're lucky mom paid to have your taxes filed or else the IRS could go after you for not filing, even if they owed you money every year.".

19:59 DaemonFC; By the time she found out about this, he could have been charged with 8 counts of failing to file a tax return by the feds, and 8 more counts by the state.


8 PM, February 11

20:00 DaemonFC; And she was already married to him. Then she comes at me and snipes "Well, you got married before you knew Mandy.". I said, "Well at least he didn't have 8 years of unfiled taxes he didn't tell me about and 3 girlfriends on the side.".

20:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, People always underestimate the whole heap 'a trouble they'll be in.

20:01 DaemonFC; Speaking of government spying, Illinois has an electronic list of who has car insurance.

20:01 DaemonFC; The DMV scans it twice a year and at random, and if you don't have it, they cancel your plates.

20:01 TR News; [Meme] Unfounded Claims of Fundamental Rights at the European #Patent Office (EPO) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/signed-by-sir-paul-mahoney/ #Techrights #Patents #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/signed-by-sir-paul-mahoney/

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20:02 DaemonFC; Then by the time you're pulled over for something it'll be a hat trick. Like speeding, no insurance, and invalid plates.

20:02 DaemonFC; Most states don't have the list. So what some people do is they buy 7 day insurance policies so they can get their plate renewed, let it lapse, and drive the rest of the year without insurance.

20:03 DaemonFC; A guy I worked with did one better.

20:03 DaemonFC; He printed out a fake car insurance card on his computer at home and took it to the DMV to get his plates renewed.

20:04 DaemonFC; I told him, "You know, that might work until you hit someone and the cops go to run it and find out that not only is it fake, but that you presented counterfeit documents to government agency.

20:04 DaemonFC; Also, they could hit you with making false statements to the police.

20:04 DaemonFC; If they pull you over and ask if you're insured and you say yeah and hand them that.

20:05 DaemonFC; All so he could save $30 a month in insurance premiums.

20:05 activelow; falsifying documents adds up to a penalty, probably more than driving without insurance

20:05 DaemonFC; It does!

20:05 DaemonFC; That's a felony and a class A misdemeanor. Counterfeit documents to the government and lying to the police.

20:06 DaemonFC; Simply driving without insurance is only a Class B Misdemeanor.

20:06 DaemonFC; They never like to charge one offense and take it to court.

20:06 DaemonFC; When they can add up numerous charges, you probably won't beat them all.

20:07 DaemonFC; When they went after Kyle Rittenhouse, the state threw in everything, even when the law clearly didn't apply.

20:07 activelow; me? i don't have a car to worry about, and couldn't afford a single petrol charge once a month.

20:07 DaemonFC; They were trying to scare him into pleading out. When he went to trial, the judge threw out "Minor in possession of a long rifle." before the jury was even selected.

20:08 DaemonFC; Because the barrel length was too short, and the prosecutor probably knew it.

20:09 DaemonFC; Granted it wasn't the most serious charge, but it shows you how the state does things. They pile up charges even when they know for sure some won't stick if it goes to court.

20:09 bnchs; whats the deal with Kyle Rittenhouse

20:10 DaemonFC; That charge was thrown out by the judge because the letter of the law said it wasn't illegal for him to have a rifle like that.

20:10 DaemonFC; Then the jury found him not guilty of the rest.

20:10 DaemonFC; Wisconsin's self-defense law applied.

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20:11 DaemonFC; Prosecutors always object to people arguing self-defense, because they know that if the jury starts hearing about how the defendant was being assailed, then the prosecutor will likely lose their case.

20:11 DaemonFC; Because at least 1/12 jurors will probably see that when people show up to commit riot and try to take your lawfully possessed gun from you, and you shoot them, well.....

20:11 DaemonFC; Would that juror have done anything differently?

20:12 DaemonFC; So you're doing a jury trial, you play things a little differently than when you're at a bench trial.

20:12 DaemonFC; You argue the law of course, but you also add an emotional element.

20:13 bnchs; i don't get, what did he do

20:13 DaemonFC; When that guy that mugged me pleaded out, the prosecutor read off a summary of what he would have argued to a jury, including my account of what the attacker told me.

20:14 DaemonFC; "Give me everything in your pockets, right now! We're not fucking with you! Everything in your pockets or you're dead!".

20:14 DaemonFC; <bnchs> i don't get, what did he do

20:14 bnchs; i mean Kyle

20:15 DaemonFC; His account was that he was there to help defend private property from looters, rioters, arsonists, etc.

20:15 DaemonFC; That while he was there, and open carry is legal in Wisconsin btw, that some of the rioters attacked him and tried to gain control of his rifle.

20:15 DaemonFC; And that at this point he had to shoot them.

20:16 DaemonFC; The one that lived, Gage Grosskreutz, has a long criminal history.

20:16 DaemonFC; Including domestic violence and lots of drunk driving, including one incident where the entire bodycam footage of a DUI incident got posted to Facebook.

20:16 DaemonFC; He tried to sue but I doubt that's going anywhere.

20:17 DaemonFC; A criminal jury found Rittenhouse not guilty, so that's not evidence. In fact, it's evidence Rittenhouse can use to the contrary.

20:17 DaemonFC; Further, while Grosskreutz was injured, he was committing a crime, for which the state declined to prosecute him.

20:18 DaemonFC; Most reasonable people would agree that when you are engaged in crime, it's at your own risk.

20:18 DaemonFC; This is how certain people rack up 40-50-100 offenses.

20:19 DaemonFC; Because it takes a certain kind of person to ignore EVERY regulation and law and court order that they just don't feel like complying with, and that just leads to trouble every time they let you out.

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20:20 DaemonFC; If you're really interested in breaking the law, look up all the ways they have to catch you and what could happen if they do.

20:20 DaemonFC; Then sit down and think long and hard about if you want to break that law.

20:20 DaemonFC; It's never worth it.

20:21 DaemonFC; Most of these criminals that go in and rob a store and it all goes wrong over $137..... I mean, come on.

20:21 DaemonFC; You could earn that much money in one shift at McDonalds.

20:22 DaemonFC; But you went in there with an illegal handgun, discharged it, shot the cashier, and escaped for all of an hour with $137. And now there's 6 charges on the docket.

20:23 DaemonFC; Instead of 8 hours of your life for $137, you spend 20 years in prison.

20:23 DaemonFC; So these folks lack a certain perspective.

20:26 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/11/2-arrested-after-dcfs-police-find-large-quantity-of-drugs-guns-in-mchenry-apartment-where-child-was-present/

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20:26 TR Bot; 2 arrested after DCFS, police find large quantity of drugs, guns in McHenry apartment where child was present

20:26 DaemonFC; There's another reason not to have kids.

20:27 DaemonFC; DCFS can enter your home a lot easier than the police can, and they can bring the police with them.

20:28 DaemonFC; "$1,040 in cash"

20:28 DaemonFC; Wow, a month's worth of rent.

20:28 DaemonFC; :P

20:28 DaemonFC; The rest of it's some pretty heavy stuff.

20:28 DaemonFC; But the article mentions they have $1,000?

20:28 bnchs; on the topic of guns, have you ever heard of smart guns

20:28 SomeH4x0r; I don't get having kids. Don't they restrict one's freedom a lot, only for a possiblity of a benefit in the future (which might not be the case)?

20:29 DaemonFC; <SomeH4x0r> I don't get having kids. Don't they restrict one's freedom a lot, only for a possiblity of a benefit in the future (which might not be the case)?

20:29 DaemonFC; Kids pretty much take away all of your freedom that the government didn't take away already.

20:29 TR News; #Games: Space Haven, CitySlicker, XCOM 2, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161351 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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20:29 TR Bot; Games: Space Haven, CitySlicker, XCOM 2, and More | Tux Machines

20:29 DaemonFC; You spend night and day caring for them and worrying about them. Praying that they won't drop out of school, join a gang, and get other kids pregnant.

20:29 DaemonFC; And spend most of your life scrounging for more money.

20:30 DaemonFC; In return, it makes it even easier than ever for the government to fuck with you, because they can say "It's for the children.".

20:30 DaemonFC; Including taking your kids from you and putting them in an even worse living situation where the foster parents kill your children, and then you sue the state and find out it has sovereign immunity and is not responsible for that.

20:32 DaemonFC; Every year, when you file taxes, you ask the government for the EITC to get a few hundred bucks to help with the expenses.

20:32 DaemonFC; And asking for the credit makes you 1,000 times more likely to have your tax return audited,

20:33 DaemonFC; The government does nothing to help you. In fact, to run up the stock market they dump trillions of fake dollars into the system, causing baby formula to spike to $60 per jar, and then they put it behind locked plexiglass at Walmart.

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20:34 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, your rent goes up 27% per year, and was already quite bad because you can't really live with kids in a one bedroom apartment, and each bedroom adds $200-300.

20:34 bnchs; remember the New Jersey Childproof Handgun Law

20:34 DaemonFC; Yeah.

20:35 bnchs; and people threatening gun stores for trying to sell smart guns

20:35 DaemonFC; Illinois requires each gun sold to have a trigger lock.

20:35 DaemonFC; Which is kind of bullshit considering they comply by giving you the cheapest one possible, which a child of 4 can pry off with a flathead screwdriver.

20:36 bnchs; even though i never used a gun before, i find smart guns to be bullshit

20:36 DaemonFC; If you do want to prevent the gun from firing, but want to access it in a timely manner yourself, getting a revolver and a lock that prevents the cylinder from closing is an option.

20:37 DaemonFC; The NRA is against "smart" guns.

20:37 bnchs; like the Armatix iP1

20:37 DaemonFC; One of the reasons is because if a man is really violent towards his partner, he can lock HER out of the gun.

20:37 DaemonFC; So he can shoot her, but she has no chance of picking it up and shooting him.

20:37 bnchs; you have to have a bracelet or some shit

20:38 DaemonFC; There's an easy way to keep from being shot with your gun.

20:38 DaemonFC; We can call it the Rittenhouse Method.

20:38 bnchs; aside from a domestic violence case, imagine in a self-defense case

20:38 DaemonFC; Shoot Grosskreutz before Grosskreutz gets it and shoots you!

20:38 bnchs; you really need to shoot the gun, but you don't have the bracelet

20:39 DaemonFC; Nobody accused Grosskreutz of being brilliant.

20:39 DaemonFC; Video evidence shows he can't sit in a chair without falling out.

20:39 bnchs; imagine if Grosskreutz takes your bracelet before you can shoot

20:40 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWsFfd9pqE

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20:40 TR Bot; NO TITLE

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20:41 bnchs; it would be worse than your gun getting jammed

20:42 TR News; I (Finally) Fired #Google Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161352 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gulag

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20:42 TR Bot; I (Finally) Fired Google | Tux Machines

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20:42 TR Bot; 8 Best Transcription Software for Linux | Tux Machines

20:42 bnchs; oh i forgot when the gun uses RFID, you can use a RF jammer

20:43 DaemonFC; I always thought that Gross Krauts were what you got during long trips out in a U-Boat.

20:45 kingoffrance; well there's kind of a pattern. $137 short-term decision pumping up stocks. drugs found in apartment. the common denominator is zero long-term responsibility

20:45 kingoffrance; meant to add one night of fun for a kid to that list

20:46 kingoffrance; all these, are short-term decisions with no regard to the long term

20:48 TR News; #billBC #propaganda gone INSAAAAANE! #uk economy "fasest growth since WW2"... so let me get this: a year ago we have LOCK-DOWNS. Of course a year later, with no lock-downs (and still many #covid19 deaths) things will be "up!". Tory and #billgates propaganda on steroids. "I've been feeling more alive than ever, says man who wakes from deathbed"...

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20:49 TR News; #billBC is a shameless misinformation source that should be shunned http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/ today in #bbc ... we're "recovering"... like a country that was blitzed/bombed and now... no bombs because Stalin won the war.

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20:49 TR Bot; Health

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20:51 TR News; Tomorrow in #billBC : the economy has never been better; people can bathe themselves and buy bread at the store! Celebrate, peasants, while our biggest sponsor #billgates profits from your misery https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/

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20:51 TR Bot; While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation

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20:52 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161355 #Linux #TuxMachines

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20:52 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:58 TR News; #billbc (bribed by #billgates the famous criminal from USA) is trying to piss off UK taxpayers who help Gates sponsor the propaganda channel (TV Licensing) by basically telling them our economy is booming while many people's businesses are devastated, lots have shun down, price of food and energy/heating is soaring, and many still die with #covid19 (or barely survive)


9 PM, February 11

21:01 TR News; In the US every weekday it's another "9/11" in terms of #covid19 casualties (past 3 days) and #billBC tells us that coronavirus (latest variant) is just "endemic"... passe... nothing to worry about anymore... take off the mask

21:06 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=t91MgqZxDk0 #gnu #linux

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21:06 TR Bot; How to install OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 - Invidious

21:10 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/correction-blue-cross-blue-shield-of-illinois-didnt-rip-us-off-at-the-dentist-they-forgot-to-send-payment/

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21:10 TR Bot; Correction: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois didnt rip us off at the dentist. They forgot to send payment. BaronHK's Rants

21:12 TR News; How to Browse the Gopher Network on Linux <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-browse-gopher-network-linux/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>

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21:12 TR Bot; How to Browse the Gopher Network on Linux

21:13 TR News; #HowTo Browse the #Gopher Network on Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-browse-gopher-network-linux/ #makeuseof #gnu #linux

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21:13 DaemonFC; "As the police interrogation tactics show, all you have to do is get mean with someone and start making threats, and most of the time they back down, even when theyre right. They start saying and doing things that are not in their interest, which they know are wrong. Because someone got mean with them. In this case, the insurance company stiffs you, the dentist threatens to send you to collections. Many people probably just send them th

21:13 DaemonFC; e money."

21:14 TR News; Google confirms dynamic color themes coming to more Android 12 phones https://www.gsmarena.com/google_confirms_dynamic_color_themes_coming_to_more_android_12_phones-news-53116.php

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21:14 TR Bot; confirms dynamic color themes coming to more Android 12 phones - GSMArena.com news

21:14 DaemonFC; Kirby vacuum salesmen are notorious for "gaining compliance".

21:15 DaemonFC; I read about one case where a couple who lived in a trailer on a total income of less than $1,000 of Social Security bought a Kirby vacuum for $5,842.

21:15 DaemonFC; And they didn't even have carpet, or a rug.

21:15 DaemonFC; They just wanted the salesman to leave.

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21:16 DaemonFC; Scams often target the elderly like this.

21:16 DaemonFC; They feel they're in a position of weakness, sometimes they are. Many times they have dementia and barely know what they're doing, and the kids are ignoring them.

21:17 DaemonFC; I think there's some cognitive decline going on with my mom, but I'm too afraid to make such an accusation directly.

21:17 DaemonFC; It's not advanced enough for me to step in and the state wouldn't do anything unless she failed a mini mental exam, and she'd probably just pass that and never speak to me again.

21:18 DaemonFC; They're not hard. "Do you know who the president is?" Well, she hates the president. She gets reminded of who he is all the time in her Facebook conspiracy groups.

21:18 DaemonFC; "If you have $50 and you buy a case of soda for $8.42, how much do you have left?".

21:19 DaemonFC; I mean, this is the test that Trump bragged about passing. These are the kinds of things they ask you.

21:19 DaemonFC; If you know what year it is and how much change you get back from a $50, you pass.

21:20 DaemonFC; And these aren't good questions to detect early dementia, because people store how to do math and big things like what year we're in, differently than where they put their car keys or if they leave the burner of the stove on.

21:21 DaemonFC; Early dementia is the worst to try to detect, because people cover for themselves, or have others do it for them.

21:22 schestowitz; LOL

21:22 schestowitz; "Phoronix Premium Valentine Offer To Show Your Love For Linux News & Benchmarking"

21:22 schestowitz; Just now

21:22 DaemonFC; Like, Reagan and Biden get "handlers" to keep them from making a spectacle of it in public, then 2-3 years after they leave the White House, they can't remember what year it is.

21:22 schestowitz; After AMD gave him like $500,000 worth of CPUs?

21:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Yeah, you could just dismantle the review system and sell the parts on ebay.

21:23 DaemonFC; You'll still have a very nice chunk of change.

21:23 DaemonFC; More than working at Walmart full time for 10 years.

21:23 DaemonFC; And that was just one thing.

21:23 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161356 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines

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21:23 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

21:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz, He's not in financial trouble. He gets paid to write spam as news.

21:24 DaemonFC; Then he wants you to pay to read it, or turn off your ad blocker so you can get 50 ads per page.

21:24 DaemonFC; He won't put up a paywall that detects ad blockers.

21:25 DaemonFC; Because if his readership goes down, he's not worth as much to Microsoft and AMD and the rest.

21:25 TR News; Get your #microsoft today... at CANONICAL? https://ubuntu.com//blog/deploying-kubeflow-pipelines-with-azure-aks-spot-instances see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/

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21:25 TR Bot; Kubeflow Pipelines with Azure AKS spot instances | Ubuntu

21:25 TR Bot; Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights

21:25 DaemonFC; Most paywall sites have 6% of their original readership within a month after doing the paywall.

21:25 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1308428-phoronix-premium-valentine-offer-to-show-your-love-for-linux-news-benchmarking

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21:25 DaemonFC; It only brings in more revenue if you have a publication that people will pay to read, like the Wall Street Journal.

21:25 TR Bot; Premium Valentine Offer To Show Your Love For Linux News & Benchmarking - Phoronix Forums

21:25 schestowitz; "Why did you have to post that? You damn near triggered a rant from me."

21:26 schestowitz; "Would appreciate if you poked your capitalistic friends in AMD, about state of HDR."

21:26 DaemonFC; "Ill pass. I will just renew at full price!

21:26 DaemonFC; Michael doesnt cheap out on content. Why should I do the same with my subscription." amxfonseca (Posts: 26)

21:27 DaemonFC; Could be sockpuppets for Larabel?

21:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, There's a collection agency called Midland Funding that bought my biggest collection account from one of the banks and immediately had it discharged right after they bought it.

21:28 DaemonFC; They have tons and tons of five star reviews on Google.

21:28 DaemonFC; From fake accounts.

21:29 DaemonFC; Who the hell gives a collection agency that's calling them at work and their boss is threatening to fire them, and is threatening to sue and garnish them and rings their phone off the hook five stars on Google?

21:29 DaemonFC; Nobody.

21:29 DaemonFC; Literally nobody.

21:30 TR News; #EPO President #BenotBattistelli and EPO President #AntnioCampinos have got themselves a British van der Eijk Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/sir-paul-mahoney-track-record/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/sir-paul-mahoney-track-record/

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21:30 TR Bot; Where Sir Paul Mahoney Has Failed to Protect EPO Staff From Injustice and Sheer Abuse | Techrights

21:30 DaemonFC; When you look at the accounts that have lots of other reviews, it's always about the horrible things Midland Funding is doing to them.

21:30 DaemonFC; Not "Midland Funding is threatening to foreclose on my house, but Miguel was amazing at communicating this! Five stars on Google!".

21:31 TR News; The #EPO s mechanism for processing internal (staff) appeals seems to have become another kangaroo court, just like the appeal boards Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/signed-by-sir-paul-mahoney/ #Techrights #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/signed-by-sir-paul-mahoney/

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21:31 TR Bot; [Meme] Unfounded Claims of Fundamental Rights at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights

21:32 TR News; Impending Data Migration and #GeminiProtocol Gateway/Proxy Improvements Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/11/impending-data-migration-work/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/11/impending-data-migration-work/

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21:32 TR Bot; Impending Data Migration and Gemini Gateway/Proxy Improvements | Techrights

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21:32 DaemonFC; "I fell a little behind on my bills during COVID, but Midland Funding made my credit card payments easy. They took me to court and now there's a line on my paycheck called COURT ORDERED GARNISHMENT. Five stars on Yelp! Would definitely recommend!"

21:35 DaemonFC; "When my daughter fell and broke her leg, I was so overwhelmed by ER statements and out of network physicians bills with surprise billing that I didn't even know where to begin. With Midland Funding, I settled for 70% of the hospital chargemaster's fake prices, and now I have the IRS after me too! Would give six stars on Yelp if I could. Maria was very helpful in explaining my options!"

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21:41 SomeH4x0r; hi

21:42 mib_7jxv3m; hi

21:43 mib_7jxv3m; whats up ?

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21:48 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/satire-totally-not-sockpuppets-give-midland-funding-collection-agency-five-star-reviews-on-google/

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21:48 TR Bot; *satire* Totally not sockpuppets give Midland Funding collection agency five star reviews on Google. BaronHK's Rants

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22:22 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/is-mistr-a-trustworthy-source-of-anti-hiv-prep-medication/

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22:22 TR Bot; Is Mistr a trustworthy source of anti-HIV PrEP medication? BaronHK's Rants

22:26 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748177.jpg

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22:26 DaemonFC; Acknowledging that things may well be heating up, Joe Biden told NBC News last night that things "could go crazy quickly." He also strongly encouraged any Americans who are in Ukraine to leave now, because the U.S. will not be able to send troops in to rescue them. "That's a world war when Americans and Russia start shooting at one another," he explained.

22:28 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIIaC5Bj-aE

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22:28 TR Bot; NO TITLE

22:41 bnchs; joe biden needs to take medics

22:41 bnchs; i mean meds

22:43 MinceR; i don't think there are meds for his condition

22:43 MinceR; or for humanity's condition that results in it ending up with rulers

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22:46 bnchs__; i don't know how you americans manage to find some legally unfit guy to put him as the president

22:46 bnchs__; i mean medically unfit

22:48 MinceR; you think other states have it better? :>

22:51 DaemonFC; Alzheimer's meds are useless.

22:52 DaemonFC; Doctors write them out though.

22:52 DaemonFC; The medication has no real effect on the progression of the disease, unless you stop taking it, and then you go into sharp decline immediately.

22:52 DaemonFC; The point of modern medicine is to bilk consumers and the government, not primarily to treat ailments.

22:53 DaemonFC; The FDA became completely corrupt around the turn of the century and everything they approved since then is highly suspect.

22:55 DaemonFC; I don't think the EU or Canada or the UK are much better though.

22:55 DaemonFC; They seem to do whatever the FDA does.

22:56 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748051.jpg

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23:02 XRevan86; MinceR: It's a subtrope of "main character is suddenly stupid to help the plot going" and "the writer's arrogance to try to shove this as the correct and morally sound course of action"

23:02 DaemonFC; The Alzheimer's meds may very well be targeting the wrong thing all this time.

23:02 DaemonFC; They don't care. It sells, right?

23:02 MinceR; i thought it was the author being confused about morality

23:02 MinceR; which is pretty common

23:03 DaemonFC; We understand very little about the disease despite pouring in a practically unlimited amount of money researching it.

23:03 DaemonFC; Treatments available today are not much better than when my friend's grandfather died of Alzheimer's in 1994.

23:03 DaemonFC; Almost thirty years ago!

23:04 XRevan86; MinceR: That doesn't explain the inconsistency.

23:04 MinceR; and in general, abrahamism has a big hand in humans being confused about morality

23:04 DaemonFC; Even back then they suggested we were on the verge of a major breakthrough. There's actually been more progress in HIV research than Alzheimer's, although again, it's basically running on a treadmill.

23:05 XRevan86; MinceR: It's like when the Fourth Doctor suddenly decides that genocide against the Daleks is actually bad, actually. But no remorse ever again :).

23:05 DaemonFC; With HIV they have a bunch of drugs that are quite different from each other, but all suppress the virus. And it's good that there's more drugs, in case of treatment resistance, but it's still running in place.

23:05 DaemonFC; They've gotten better at viral suppression and limiting negative side effects.

23:05 DaemonFC; And that's good.

23:06 DaemonFC; You can live as long as you would have otherwise, in most cases, but it will cost you, or someone.

23:07 XRevan86; MinceR: But that's a bad example. Usually it's more like sparing Hitler to let him cause WW2.

23:08 MinceR; :>

23:08 XRevan86; before that killing thousands of military Germans.

23:09 DaemonFC; I think Russia will invade Ukraine, the US will not do a damned thing about it, and that Zelenskyy will be hanged for everyone to see, or will flee the country.

23:09 DaemonFC; "Sanctions" that affect XRevan86 and not Putin will happen.

23:09 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I think that assessment is trash.

23:11 XRevan86; For one thing, the US is fear mongering right now and get more and more guns and all sorts of help to Ukraine.

23:12 XRevan86; For another, Russia is also pretty much just messing with NATO to get some strange assurances.

23:13 MinceR; what i don't get is why people don't understand that this policy of appeasement doesn't work, it never did

23:13 XRevan86; Russia screwed itself over with these "exercises".

23:13 XRevan86; MinceR: The German one?

23:13 MinceR; that too

23:16 XRevan86; MinceR: Time is working against Russia, so don't worry, stalling does help.

23:16 MinceR; time is working against all life on Earth

23:16 XRevan86; Life was once simple and perfect, but then time happened.

23:16 kingoffrance; missed stalin pun there :/

23:16 MinceR; :>

23:18 XRevan86; Just put in some stalling.

23:19 XRevan86; Not sure what's not working against Russia in all this situation.

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23:35 XRevan86; Lukashenko I guess.

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23:43 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/VMvUus1.jpeg

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23:43 MinceR; orban

23:44 XRevan86; Yea, but for how long?

23:44 MinceR; \_()_/

23:44 MinceR; depends on how stupid hungarians are and how long until orban kicks the bucket

23:44 Skywave; hello MinceR

23:44 MinceR; and i guess on how hard he's cheating and how much his bosses are helping him at it

23:44 XRevan86; Putin did dump a load of cash onto Hungary, but that doesn't always end in a country's loyalty.

23:44 MinceR; hi

23:45 MinceR; i don't think putler can afford to buy hungary's loyalty

23:45 MinceR; he's competing with the EU and with red china

23:45 XRevan86; Because when a dictator is overthrown, suddenly the new government doesn't give a crap about Putin's love towards the former regime.

23:45 MinceR; russia's GDP just isn't there

23:47 XRevan86; MinceR: Belarus' owes Russia more than $8 billion

23:47 XRevan86; and that's 2019 numbers

23:47 XRevan86; In 2020 and 2021 Russia gave some more billions.

23:47 Skywave; putler xD

23:48 Skywave; why haven't i heard this before xDDD

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23:49 XRevan86; MinceR: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/__,__#_____ check this out

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23:49 TR Bot; ,

23:49 Skywave; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Putler&action=history curious.

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23:49 TR Bot; Putler: Revision history - Wikipedia

23:50 XRevan86; MinceR: So Russia's GDP is not a problem %).

23:53 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

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23:53 TR Bot; List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

23:53 TR Bot; List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia

23:53 MinceR; on both lists, they're beaten by germany (an EU member state), the EU as a whole and red china

23:55 XRevan86; MinceR: GDP is one thing but generosity is another.

23:55 bnchs__; inb4 there hasn't been any meaningful changes to the I2C bus specifications since 2012


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