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02:54 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
02:54 schestowitz; Sorry, Doc Edward Morbius, if you found me repetitive or obnoxious. I cannot export my data, have not been able for years (exactly same symptoms as described above by Pavithran S), and moreover I think letting the domain just rot would be devastating for a whole plethora of reasons.
02:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/
02:54 schestowitz; I will try to reach out to fellow users like Glyn Moody and contact Lukas directly, by email.
02:54 schestowitz; Submitting bug reports in a proprietary Microsoft site wont do much good at this stage. Its a token solution.
02:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
02:54 schestowitz; If enough of us can pay a monthly sum to Lukas, maybe he can keep this going. If not, maybe we can find others who can inherit the account. Im willing to learn from some cheatsheert and work with others to preserve the legacy and take it forward.
02:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
02:54 schestowitz; Lukas has done a MASSIVE service to so many of us. Hes not the problem and he shouldnt be treated like some support/customer service department.
02:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
02:54 schestowitz; If I get any meaningful updates, I will follow up here.
02:54 schestowitz; Please contact me on roy at schestowitz dot com if you wish to join handed financially and/or technically to keep this wonderful community (and domain) going.
02:54 schestowitz; Again. dont be harsh on Lukas. He does not owe us anything, we owe a lot to him!
02:54 schestowitz; further context, archived:
02:54 schestowitz; "
02:54 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 5 hours ago
02:54 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () Youre simply repeating yourself without providing new information. I find that annoying, and suspect others on the thread do likewise.
02:54 schestowitz; If you earnestly think you can run the service yourself, then make arrangements to do so. Otherwise, youre trying to organise a collective effort among multiple parties on behalf of others (present users of the system), with a present operator who is AWOL and not responding to inquiries or requests.
02:54 schestowitz; Filing a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do:
02:54 schestowitz; https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora
02:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | GitHub - diaspora/diaspora: A privacy-aware, distributed, open source social network.
02:54 schestowitz; goobler
02:55 schestowitz; goobler - about 4 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; Filing a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do:
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02:55 schestowitz; https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora
02:55 schestowitz; No it wouldnt, because the problem is with the administration of the JD.com pod, not a bug in the export feature in Diasporas code. Only the podmin of JD.com can fix it.
02:55 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:55 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 4 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; Ive opened that issue on GitHub:
02:55 schestowitz; Unable to successfully complete profile export data #8334
02:55 schestowitz; https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/8334
02:55 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Unable to successfully complete profile export data Issue #8334 diaspora/diaspora GitHub
02:55 schestowitz; Ive done so on behalf of those who claim to be unable to export data. I dont have insights on the issue myself.
02:55 schestowitz; I strongly encourage @Pavithran S and @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () to provide additional relevant information to that issue.
02:55 schestowitz; @podmin@joindiaspora.com / Lukas Matt is also strongly encouraged to assist, both in diagnosing the issue and in applying an update if provided.
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; have you guys tried refreshing the page? I repat myseld but for me it did the trick!
02:55 schestowitz; Pavithran S
02:55 schestowitz; Pavithran S - about 4 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; I tried this so many times, it shows this.
02:55 schestowitz; enter image description here
02:55 schestowitz; Later if I refresh page it doesnt even show that I have requested export and still gives me the export button.
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; ah, I also did it seperately, just dowload the pics and give it another try. if nothing changes after refreshing give it another minute.
02:55 schestowitz; goobler
02:55 schestowitz; goobler - about 3 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; @Pavithran S and @>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender, frustrating as it is for you, its possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down. I dont know that that is the case, but I
02:55 schestowitz; think it would be worth waiting for a good amount of time maybe a week or more, as neither of you need to download your archive before late March.
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza - about 3 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; @Pavithran S I think the restriction is on a user basis, i.e. I believe the server is configured so that no single user operation exceeds x amount of seconds and y amount of ram. Then when the server tries to fetch all your data it is exceeding one of those amounts and aborts the operation I have seen that problem many many times
02:55 schestowitz; I dont believe there is any way to fix that if the admin does not cooperate, however i would indeed try to do it when the traffic is less in case the restriction is not user basis
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender
02:55 schestowitz; >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 3 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; which will be slowing everything down
02:55 schestowitz; thats why I suggested to just refresh the page, and as I also said before it worked very well for me, I had no issues at all.
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza - about 3 hours ago
02:55 schestowitz; And by the way, my account was created in 2011 and I perfectly downloaded my data (but it is very small compared to any of you)
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza
02:55 schestowitz; Peluza - about 3 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; I have another great idea, you might try to fetch the data from the mobile web interface, i.e. by using the browser of your mobile phone (in mobile mode). Maybe the limit is not implemented from the mobile view.
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 3 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; FWIW, denschub (denschub@pod.geraspora.de) has closed the GitHub issue.
02:56 schestowitz; If another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, Id appreciate it.
02:56 schestowitz; Id also strongly appreciate those with data export issues contributing to that report.
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; Further, denshchub has locked the issue.
02:56 schestowitz; If youve got actionable information, open a new issue.
02:56 schestowitz; goobler
02:56 schestowitz; goobler - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; If another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, Id appreciate it.
02:56 schestowitz; Please dont do that. As explained, this is an issue with the administration of the JD.com pod (possibly server load), not a bug in the Diaspora core code-base. Opening another ticket will not help and is just noise/spam.
02:56 schestowitz; I appreciate your frustration with the current state of the JD.com pod, but hassling the developers of the core Diaspora code will not help you. JD.com has been in a more or less broken state since at least 2012, if not earlier. Those are historical issues unique to that pod, and are not caused by the current Diaspora code.
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; @goobler Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of taht broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large?
02:56 schestowitz; Ive been a member of JoindiasporaCom since May of 2012, and this is the first acknowledgement of this fact Ive heard, ever.
02:56 schestowitz; Peluza
02:56 schestowitz; Peluza - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; @Doc Edward Morbius can you see my profile picture? I cant either and there was a picture in there for sure. In the same way many of the pictures in my posts disappeared for no reason (some of them are public and you can see it) Those are the problems @goobler is talking about.
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; @Peluza No, youre a greyhead.
02:56 schestowitz; JoindiasporaCom has had a number of issues with losing image data over the years. My own avatar was lost at at least one point, Ive cycled through a few variants over the years.
02:56 schestowitz; Is it just the image data loss then? Because that was pretty recent 2021 AFAIR, not back in 2012.
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; @Peluza Heres the thread I recall, from four months ago: https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/11fede30078a013ac833002590d8e506
02:56 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | #Joindiaspora and #Sechat had certificate issues. As a result both ...
02:56 schestowitz; goobler
02:56 schestowitz; goobler - about 2 hours ago
02:56 schestowitz; Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of that broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large?
02:56 schestowitz; Well, it was originally set up as a test pod for the founders to move fast and break things and actually ran on a fork of the main code-base for the first few years at least (there used to be a joindiaspora fork in the Github repo), on which Maxwell and other founders could write bespoke code. The enormous number of accounts signed up to that pod in the first few weeks in September 2000 always caused problems because the code in the alpha
02:56 schestowitz; stage wasnt able properly to cope with such load, and when the code improved later, there were still residual problems with that pod. Admins of that pod have, over the years, performed a number of database hacks to try to improve responsivity, but this seems to have caused further problems. It has never been a really well functioning pod.
02:56 schestowitz; There was a very long-running Github issue about the problems with that pod, although I cant remember its title and I cant find it at the moment. There was certainly plenty of discussion within the Diaspora network over the years about the problems with the pod thats how I knew about it, and why I moved to another pod in 2012, because my account on JD.com wasnt federating properly with the rest of the network although there was
02:56 schestowitz; probably never an announcement about this from the admins of the pod. Keep in mind that as of 27 August 2012, JD.com was no longer an official project pod, but just another community-run pod operated by a volunteer (Maxwell to start with, and then Lukas).
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius
02:56 schestowitz; Doc Edward Morbius - about an hour ago
02:56 schestowitz; @goobler I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000.
02:57 schestowitz; Otherwise, thanks.
02:57 schestowitz; goobler
02:57 schestowitz; goobler - 30 minutes ago
02:57 schestowitz; I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000.
02:57 schestowitz; I did; that was a typo.
02:57 schestowitz; "
02:57 schestowitz; me
02:57 schestowitz; "
02:57 schestowitz; Hi, Lukas,
02:57 schestowitz; Thank you for the many years of great service! Sorry to see you treated a tad harshly by some.
02:57 schestowitz; I've contacted fellow JD users. Would you in theory consider a handover of the site to a bunch of us "old geezer" who have used the site since the early days?
02:57 schestowitz; Regards,
02:57 schestowitz; "
03:13 schestowitz; "
03:13 schestowitz; For anyone keeping score, mail to mailto:feneas@friendica.feneas.org is presently bouncing.
03:13 schestowitz; I believe mailto:incoming+feneas-association-8-issue-@git.feneas.org fails silently.
03:13 schestowitz; Both are listed on the @podmin@joindiaspora.com account as contacts.
03:14 schestowitz; That leaves mailto:lukas@matt.wf as the only address Im aware of as working in recent memory.
03:14 schestowitz; (Id included all three on an email in relation to issues raised over data export in this thread.)
03:14 schestowitz; Michael Fenichel
03:14 schestowitz; Michael Fenichel - 4 minutes ago
03:14 schestowitz; Just as a fly on the wall (getting a lot of notices, and truly, I understand the urgency) It seems to me that some person(s) do not want to be contacted!
03:14 schestowitz; A pity. I see so much talent and collective willingness to contribute, and (silence)
03:14 schestowitz; "
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04:02 schestowitz; "
04:02 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () Thanks, I think our messages just crossed.
04:02 schestowitz; Follow-up by email.
04:02 schestowitz; "
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11:17 schestowitz; <li>
11:17 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://fossforce.com/2022/01/learn-about-blender-and-maybe-get-a-free-book-whats-not-to-like/">Learn About Blender and Maybe Get a Free Book Whats Not to Like?</a></h5>
11:17 schestowitz; <blockquote>
11:17 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | Learn About Blender and Maybe Get a Free Book - What's Not to Like? - FOSS Force
11:17 schestowitz; <p>From what I glean from my Twitter feed, where anything tweeted about Blender gets tons of likes and retweets, theres an online event coming up that plenty of people are going to want to attend and one of them might be you.</p></blockquote></li>
11:18 schestowitz; <li>
11:18 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://fossforce.com/2022/01/eff-asks-appeals-court-to-find-dmca-provisions-unconstitutional/">EFF Asks Appeals Court to Find DMCA Provisions Unconstitutional</a></h5>
11:18 schestowitz; <blockquote>
11:18 schestowitz; <p>The Electronic Frontier Foundation is taking the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to court. This is nothing new. EFF has been fighting selected aspects of the DMCA since before the act was passed in 1998.</p>
11:18 schestowitz; <p>In this case, EFF is taking aim at provisions of the law that have in recent years become specifically problematic for the right-to-repair movement. These revolve around the DMCAs Section 1201, which makes it illegal for users to find ways to bypass Digital Rights Management software to access copyrighted material, even when they legally own it.</p></blockquote></li>
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18:01 schestowitz; Glyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitter https://nitter.eu/glynmoody/status/1486660076429524992 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latest
18:01 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Glyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #opensource projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitter
18:01 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
18:02 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
18:02 schestowitz; "
18:02 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/
18:02 schestowitz; can you see my profile picture? I cant either and there was a picture in there for sure.
18:02 schestowitz; Same here, my profile picture was also lost. I think it was a good reminder that the pod was dying. We as JD users must have been more proactive and rescued the pod or asked for solutions to move to pod. I personally saw that Diaspora project actively was implementing backup restore. Now my only wish is it should work and obviously a selfish desire to still have the old comments and friends I have discovered in this network.
18:02 schestowitz; Ingmar S. Horn (vaxima)
18:02 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
18:02 schestowitz; Ingmar S. Horn (vaxima) - about 7 hours ago
18:02 schestowitz; OMG, oh jeh :(
18:02 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
18:02 schestowitz; Pavithran S
18:03 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
18:03 schestowitz; Pavithran S - about 7 hours ago
18:03 schestowitz; its possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down.
18:03 schestowitz; Dear @podmin@joindiaspora.com @zauberstuhl Please clear/reset the queue so that we could download of our profile could happen.
18:03 schestowitz; Gary Hill
18:03 schestowitz; Gary Hill - 21 minutes ago
18:03 schestowitz; That is long overdue
18:03 schestowitz; "
18:03 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486657027401306117
18:03 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | (@0xFreak71): "Systemd is 1M lines of corporate code which does nothing at all. s66, OpenRC, runit can do what is supposed missing from standard init (watch and restart services if needed) with only few lines of code. So, what debianoids want from us?" | nitter
18:03 schestowitz; (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitter https://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486654065345974280 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latest
18:04 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitter
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18:17 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/3-open-source-training-courses-launched-linux-foundation
18:17 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.fosslife.org | 3 Open Source Training Courses Launched by Linux Foundation
18:17 schestowitz; "
18:17 schestowitz; Open source development skills are in demand, which is why the Linux Foundation has released three new training courses on the massive edX platform, reports Steven Vaughan-Nichols.
18:18 schestowitz; The courses are:
18:18 schestowitz; Open Source Software Development: Linux for Developers
18:18 schestowitz; Linux Tools for Software Development
18:18 schestowitz; Git for Distributed Software Development
18:18 schestowitz; They can be taken individually or combined to earn a Professional Certificate in Open Source Software Development, Linux, and Git.
18:18 schestowitz; Read more at ZDNet.
18:18 schestowitz; "
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22:58 schestowitz; Re: Smoked
22:58 schestowitz; >> https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1486509293230694403?s=21
22:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i https://t.co/8QETa1rYEk
22:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i https://t.co/8QETa1rYEk
22:58 schestowitz; >> <https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1486509293230694403?s=21>
22:58 schestowitz; >>
22:58 schestowitz; >> Jake is an idiot.
22:58 schestowitz; >
22:58 schestowitz; > He kept slandering me in public. See
22:58 schestowitz; > http://techrights.org/2020/02/20/no-back-doors-to-see-here-move-along/
22:58 schestowitz; >
22:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Employees Dont Like Talking About Past and Present Microsoft Back Doors (Designed for Spy Agencies) | Techrights
22:58 schestowitz; > Re GMO, we covered that a lot about a decade ago, you can find many
22:58 schestowitz; > articles about this also in
22:58 schestowitz; > http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique
22:58 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
22:58 schestowitz; >
22:58 schestowitz; > I don't think Jake is sinister, just misguided and not so pleasant to
22:58 schestowitz; > debate.
22:58 schestowitz; >
22:58 schestowitz; > When he followed me it was mostly to throw snide remarks at me.
22:58 schestowitz; >> Hes a dunce who doesnt seem to like using the left hemisphere of his brain outside of working hours.
22:58 schestowitz; >>
22:58 schestowitz; >> Imagine being so stupid that you see GMOs as a viable solution to anything. Yeah lets make more billionaires off the food supply
23:02 schestowitz; Re: Continuity and/or trasnfer of JoindiasporaCom
23:02 schestowitz; > Lukas, Fla, Roy, and any other FENEAS folks this might reach:
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > I'm hoping to get some useful action or at least clarity on continuing
23:02 schestowitz; > operation of JoindiasporaCom given the impending shutdown date and
23:02 schestowitz; > announcement.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > I'm not sure if Jason Robinson is included at hq@feneas.org, if not he
23:02 schestowitz; > might be a good add to this distribution list.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > Roy Schestowitz is one of several people who've expressed some interest
23:02 schestowitz; > in continuing operations of the pod. I believe Fla of diaspora-fr.org is
23:02 schestowitz; > another.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > I'm concerned that there appear to be few or no functional FENEAS email
23:02 schestowitz; > addresses, though at least hq@feneas.org hasn't bounced yet. The
23:02 schestowitz; > advertised feneas@friendica.feneas.org _did_ bounce as of a few minutes ago.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > There are also concerns over being able to successfully create and
23:02 schestowitz; > transfer profile data exports by at least two users, of whom Roy is one.
23:02 schestowitz; > I've emailed Lukas on that separately.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > I don't like volunteering people for roles, so won't. That said, if
23:02 schestowitz; > there is anyone else who would be willing, able, trustworthy, and
23:02 schestowitz; > reliable enough to either operate (as a live site) or host (as a static
23:02 schestowitz; > archive) JoindiasporaCom, I'm open to suggestions.
23:02 schestowitz; >
23:02 schestowitz; > What I'd like to see is actual progress rather than theoretical
23:02 schestowitz; > discussion, as seems to have been the extent of activity to date.
23:02 schestowitz; I have contacted Lukas on 3 email addresses that I have of his. Still no reply.
23:02 schestowitz; Yes, this isn't theoretical, I'm willing to form a set of "heavy users" to take over and keep running the pod.
23:04 schestowitz; Re: Comments on Joindiaspora
23:05 schestowitz; > Roy:
23:05 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > Regarding my comments on the JoindiasporaCom thread on Diaspora*:
23:06 schestowitz; > <https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/f605e81053c3013ae6b9002590d8e506>
23:06 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | Hello JoinDiaspora
23:06 schestowitz; > <https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/f605e81053c3013ae6b9002590d8e506>>
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23:06 schestowitz; > Public discussions tend to get noisy fast. Few people are capable of
23:06 schestowitz; > understanding or responding effectively to issues. Keeping discussions
23:06 schestowitz; > productive and _not_ scaring the fish / horses, as they say, is an art.
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > I'm well aware of your views on Free Software (I share most of them) and
23:06 schestowitz; > antipathy toward Microsoft (likewise).
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > The final days of an online service whose code and support are hosted on
23:06 schestowitz; > a service that is not going to change on account of your views is a poor
23:06 schestowitz; > time to fight a holy war. Repeating the same points numerous times,
23:06 schestowitz; > likewise. It's far too easy to render communications confusing or
23:06 schestowitz; > counterproductive. Please help avoid doing that.
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > If you're aware of export issues, *and* you can make a credible case
23:06 schestowitz; > that there's a Diaspora bug involved, the please, for your own good *and
23:06 schestowitz; > the sake of others who can't begin to grasp the concept of source code
23:06 schestowitz; > or bugtracking systems*, file a bug in the Diaspora project at GitHub
23:06 schestowitz; > giving as much detail as you can. If you've been aware of this for years
23:06 schestowitz; > ... well, I just got tongue-lashed for being late to file and had some
23:06 schestowitz; > curt words in response, but just between the two of us, speaking up
23:06 schestowitz; > earlier might have helped a bit now.
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > I appreciate your interest in taking on JoindiasporaCom. I don't think
23:06 schestowitz; > volunteering third parties without their awareness is a good look ----
23:06 schestowitz; > I've reached out to Glyn Moody already simply to advise him that JD will
23:06 schestowitz; > be shutting down (and haven't heard from him). If you're going to bring
23:06 schestowitz; > up his name in public, do so _after_ you've talked to him about his
23:06 schestowitz; > role, not before. Might save both of you some embarassment.
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > I've included you on an email I've just sent to Lukas, Fla (I hope ---
23:06 schestowitz; > I'm not positive of people's preferred contact info), and whomever is
23:06 schestowitz; > answering hq@feneas.org. I'd strongly prefer _that_ disucssion remain
23:06 schestowitz; > focused on continuity of JD.
23:06 schestowitz; >
23:06 schestowitz; > I said I sympathise with many of your views. Your execution, which I've
23:07 schestowitz; > _also_ been familiar with over the years ... not so much. That said, one
23:07 schestowitz; > of the principles of volunteer organisations is that you work with the
23:07 schestowitz; > material you've got, and you're amongst the few who're standing up. I do
23:07 schestowitz; > hope you'll find the ability to be effective, despite my doubts.
23:07 schestowitz; I get your point. I really do.
23:07 schestowitz; Behind the scened I had been in touch with some people, inc. our own at Techrights and Glyn Moody. I'm just waiting for Lukas to say something like, "YES! I'm ready to arrange a handover of keys some time next month."
23:07 schestowitz; Whether we set up some org for this and whether we can handle it technically is another issue. First we need a reply.
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