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03:34 schestowitz; old, redacted:

03:34 schestowitz; [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:37:23 GMT]<<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i have now switched all machines to using iSCSI WWNs instead of /dev/sdX

03:34 schestowitz; [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:37:42 GMT]<schestowitz> I herad of such an issue with Debian 11 recently

03:34 schestowitz; [Sunday, 2 January 2022] [21:38:02 GMT]<schestowitz> but it's not alpine, though some people moaned about sdX being unpredictable

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [06:32:33 GMT]<<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> that craigslist dude with the ram offered to drop off the ram so im having somebody go install it in about an hour or so

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:35 GMT]<schestowitz> sure, sounds good

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:46 GMT]<schestowitz> let me know a bit in advance so I can prepare

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:17:58 GMT]<<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> it will be in ~5 minutes or so, probably.

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:20:30 GMT]<schestowitz> excellent, I will take a break from posting etc.

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:20:44 GMT]<<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> going down in ~30s

03:34 schestowitz; [Tuesday, 4 January 2022] [08:21:03 GMT]<schestowitz> kk

03:34 schestowitz; [16:42] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> hi, you're pissing off some powerful people, so i was wondering if there was a way i could obfuscate my involvement in this somehow

03:34 schestowitz; [16:42] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> also known as: i don't want to be sued and/or fired for drama connected to techrights

03:34 schestowitz; [16:44] <schestowitz> ah, yes

03:34 schestowitz; [16:44] <schestowitz> they cannot sue you

03:34 schestowitz; [16:44] <schestowitz> they play games

03:34 schestowitz; [16:44] <schestowitz> if they try to sue someone, it's me

03:34 schestowitz; [16:45] <schestowitz> but they would not, as the facts do stack up

03:34 schestowitz; [16:47] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> anybody can sue anybody for any reason in the US

03:35 schestowitz; [16:47] <schestowitz> I would take over that as liable

03:35 schestowitz; [16:47] <schestowitz> and fight back

03:35 schestowitz; [16:47] <schestowitz> but it's EXTREMELY unlikely they would do it

03:35 schestowitz; [16:48] <schestowitz> it's manipulative muscle-flexing

03:35 schestowitz; [16:49] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> sure, and that's a valid position, but i think my position of wanting to obfuscate my involvement is also reasonable

03:35 schestowitz; [16:50] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> so i am wondering -- we need to modernize the infrastructure hosting the site (it is still old CentOS containers with security vulnerabilities and one is not getting updates anymore)

03:35 schestowitz; [16:51] <schestowitz> yes, very true

03:35 schestowitz; [16:51] <schestowitz> we've long wanted to migrate to a new OS

03:35 schestowitz; [16:51] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> what if we launched this stuff on infrastructure not controlled by me, like Linode or something

03:35 schestowitz; [16:51] <schestowitz> then they would target Linode

03:35 schestowitz; [16:51] <schestowitz> did you get any threats in past 12 months?

03:35 schestowitz; [16:52] <schestowitz> the tiger thing is a gas because the threat contradicts what they say

03:35 schestowitz; [16:52] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i'm more concerned about your ongoing fight with xxxxxxx

03:35 schestowitz; [16:52] <schestowitz> the fight is old

03:35 schestowitz; [16:52] <schestowitz> it ended 2 months ago

03:35 schestowitz; [16:53] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> he's moved on from working in FOSS, and he is worried about your attacks against him jeopardizing his new teaching position

03:35 schestowitz; [16:54] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> you are, of course, free to have whatever editorial decisions you want to make, but *I* do not want to fuck over somebody who has voluntarily removed themselves from the calculus

03:35 schestowitz; [16:55] <schestowitz> we hardly mention him anymore

03:35 schestowitz; [16:56] <schestowitz> in fact, let me assure you right now I have no intention of touching that subject again

03:35 schestowitz; [16:56] <schestowitz> EPO is my focus these years

03:35 schestowitz; [16:57] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/shuffling-chairs-on-the-epo-titanic/ http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/team-upc-always-next-year/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/shuffling-chairs-on-the-epo-titanic/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/team-upc-always-next-year/

03:35 schestowitz; [16:57] <schestowitz> these are important battles

03:35 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Shuffling the EPO Deck to Cover Up Crimes, EPC Violations, Attacks on Judges Etc. While Promoting Illegal and Unconstitutional UPC | Techrights

03:35 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Classic Team UPC: This Year Becomes Next Year Yet Again | Techrights

03:35 schestowitz; [16:57] <schestowitz> those two posts are <1 hour old

03:35 schestowitz; [16:57] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> I would appreciate it then if you could come to an agreement with xxxxxxx to address his concern

03:35 schestowitz; [16:57] <schestowitz> what's at stake is the future of software patents and prosecution in Europe

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> the FOSS thing is a side show

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> tell xxxxxxxxx he's off my radar

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> I focus on patents

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> he can leave me alone

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> I would leave him alone, too

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> will you remove pre-existing content about him?

03:35 schestowitz; [16:58] <schestowitz> no, that would damage our values as a site

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> because if I get pulled into litigation with xxxxxxxxxx as collateral damage, or if my upstream disconnects me because of litigation with xxxxxxxxxx, you will be impacting projects and initiatives that are more important to me than techrights

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <schestowitz> he should not do that

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <schestowitz> unless it's a very sinister agenda

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <schestowitz> he can talk to me by email

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> if you corner an animal, they tend to lash out

03:35 schestowitz; [16:59] <schestowitz> hut he tried to talk by threats

03:35 schestowitz; [17:00] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> not threats, realities

03:35 schestowitz; [17:00] <schestowitz> I could sue him

03:36 schestowitz; [17:00] <schestowitz> I said it a year agop

03:36 schestowitz; [17:00] <schestowitz> he defamed me also

03:36 schestowitz; [17:00] <schestowitz> he needs to move on

03:36 schestowitz; [17:00] <schestowitz> and he can

03:36 schestowitz; [17:01] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i think another important thing is

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i just took a high-profile job working for a company that is trying to solve software freedom issues in ways you find personally disagreeable

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <schestowitz> probably not so disagreeable

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <schestowitz> but "sub-optimal"

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <schestowitz> which is not the same thing

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> uhh, we want to launch a secondary CA for UEFI secure boot

03:36 schestowitz; [17:02] <schestowitz> I work and cooperate with many people in that position, even patent examiners

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> secondary one is OK

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> better than what we have now

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> seems like a step in a better direction, esp. if switch exists to disable it

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> yes, but some of the people involved launched xxxxxxxxxxx, and you describe that as evil, because linux foundation

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> not evil

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> I said,

03:36 schestowitz; [17:03] <schestowitz> they are a risk of monopoly

03:36 schestowitz; [17:04] <schestowitz> or rather, one point of failure

03:36 schestowitz; [17:04] <schestowitz> which is contrary to federation

03:36 schestowitz; [17:04] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> everything about the xxxxx project is FOSS, nothing stops somebody else from setting up another CA other than the $$$$$$$ required to do it

03:36 schestowitz; [17:05] <schestowitz> yeah, but the reality is that xxxxxxxx is taking over the cert pool

03:36 schestowitz; [17:05] <schestowitz> and meanwhile browsers get more fussy about the CAs

03:36 schestowitz; [17:05] <schestowitz> so at the end that's one org with a lot of power to censor or block access to sites

03:36 schestowitz; [17:05] <schestowitz> they are aware of this pitfall

03:36 schestowitz; [17:06] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> anyway, given that i took a high-profile job at a company i am sure you will eventually want to cover (hopefully positively, but i'm sure we will eventually do something you find disagreeable, you can't expect people to bat 1000)

03:36 schestowitz; [17:06] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> how can you cover said company with any integrity if i can just turn your stuff off?

03:36 schestowitz; [17:06] <schestowitz> thanks for the headsup

03:36 schestowitz; [17:06] <schestowitz> it's good to know about the loyalties people have

03:36 schestowitz; [17:06] <schestowitz> to not tread on mates

03:36 schestowitz; [17:07] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i'm not saying i would, i'm just saying hypothetically

03:36 schestowitz; [17:07] <schestowitz> lately we've focused too much on patents

03:36 schestowitz; [17:07] <schestowitz> the rest goes in Daily Links mostly

03:36 schestowitz; [17:07] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> say you piss off my employer, and they tell me i need to solve this or i am fired

03:36 schestowitz; [17:07] <schestowitz> this is a conscious decision

03:36 schestowitz; [17:08] <schestowitz> I doubt I would be harsh on them

03:36 schestowitz; [17:08] <schestowitz> if it's an alternative to Microsoft

03:36 schestowitz; [17:08] <schestowitz> like OOXML support in LibreOffice

03:36 schestowitz; [17:08] <schestowitz> better than ODF inside Offic

03:36 schestowitz; [17:08] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> well, it was started by people who were tired of microsoft stonewalling in various spaces relating to the software distribution supply chain

03:37 schestowitz; [17:08] <schestowitz> even if the format itself is bad, at least it helps move to libreoffice

03:37 schestowitz; [17:08] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> so, yes, i don't think i would describe xxxxx as "pro-microsoft"

03:37 schestowitz; [17:09] <schestowitz> that's good

03:37 schestowitz; [17:09] <schestowitz> at least I know upfront, too

03:37 schestowitz; [17:12] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> i'm sure you're aware of FEDRAMP and all the other regulations that have come out where if you're working on systems that process personal data, you have to be able to prove that you know where all of the components of that system came from

03:37 schestowitz; [17:12] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> and that they are all receiving security support

03:37 schestowitz; [17:12] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> there's basically two competing proposals to solve this problem

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <schestowitz> yes, i read about it

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> one comes from microsoft (and is basically vaporware)

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <schestowitz> those are "box-ticking exercise"

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <schestowitz> while they peddle back doors

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <schestowitz> they talk about security with the other side of the mouth

03:37 schestowitz; [17:13] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> xxx is trying to actually solve this problem for real

03:37 schestowitz; [17:14] <<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> in a way that elevates FOSS projects

03:37 schestowitz; [17:14] <schestowitz> for real rather than pretense

03:37 schestowitz; [17:15] <schestowitz> 'open'POWER

03:37 schestowitz; [17:15] <schestowitz> now with more blobs

03:37 schestowitz; [17:15] <schestowitz> :-)


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07:43 schestowitz; <li>

07:43 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/333/">2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts</a></h5>

↺ https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/333/">2021

07:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-sysdfree.wordpress.com | 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | systemd-free linux community

07:43 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:43 schestowitz; <p>This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard. We shall explain what the object is, below the short list (which we hope the community will assist in making longer as we have not been able to currently review the work of every distro and fork).</p></blockquote></li>

07:46 schestowitz; <li>

07:46 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://boilingsteam.com/the-kudu-laptop-what-system76-does-best/">The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best</a></h5>

↺ https://boilingsteam.com/the-kudu-laptop-what-system76-does-best/">The

07:46 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:46 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-boilingsteam.com | The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best - Boiling Steam

07:46 schestowitz; <p>System76 had unveiled their new Kudu laptop earlier in February. I was fortunate enough to be able to get a review unit (albeit its not new; its refurbished. I didnt get any stickers!). Featuring a Ryzen 9 5900HX processor and a RTX 3060, Im once again a spoiled gamer for just a few weeks. Its fairly similar to the Tuxedo Stellaris I had reviewed several months ago, with the same processor, same RAM capacity,

07:46 schestowitz; same storage, but a few classes behind on the RTX family. Heres my thoughts on the device.</p>

07:46 schestowitz; <p>[...]</p>

07:46 schestowitz; <p>The process of taking the Kudu apart and replacing various system components is very simple and theres even documentation for it. Very few competitors would offer that sort of transparency. Well touch on that later.</p></blockquote></li>


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08:58 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; old:

08:59 schestowitz; https://www.republicreport.org/2012/make-it-rain-revolving-door/

↺ https://www.republicreport.org/2012/make-it-rain-revolving-door/

08:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.republicreport.org | ANALYSIS: When a Congressman Becomes a Lobbyist, He Gets a 1,452% Raise (on Average) | Republic Report

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/03/18/darfor-finns-det-inga-europeiska-natjattar/

↺ https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/03/18/darfor-finns-det-inga-europeiska-natjattar/

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-femtejuli-se.translate.goog | Drfr finns det inga europeiska ntjttar

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/03/19/vladimir-putins-war-endangers-ukraines-cultural-heritage

↺ https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/03/19/vladimir-putins-war-endangers-ukraines-cultural-heritage

08:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Vladimir Putins war endangers Ukraines cultural heritage | The Economist

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz; https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/03/18/why-people-are-buying-potassium-iodide-pills

↺ https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/03/18/why-people-are-buying-potassium-iodide-pills

08:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Why people are buying potassium iodide pills | The Economist

08:59 schestowitz; =

08:59 schestowitz;

08:59 schestowitz; https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/festivals/holi-2022-history-significance-date-time-celebrations-and-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-festival-of-colours-101647482484840.html

↺ https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/festivals/holi-2022-history-significance-date-time-celebrations-and-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-festival-of-colours-101647482484840.html

08:59 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.hindustantimes.com | Holi 2022: History, significance, date, time, celebrations and all you need to know about the festival of colours - Hindustan Times

08:59 schestowitz; =


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12:04 infoWAREZ; mornin

12:09 infoWAREZ; is anybody out there?

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