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05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >> I mean, faith pretty much by definition involves made-up beliefs,
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >> whether or not they have a root of truth, or an ethical/moral
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >> underpinning.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > I think it would be more accurate to say that faith involves received
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > wisdom which is unfalsifiable. Following Karl Popper, it would be
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > outside the scope of science to say whether the beliefs in question are
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > made up, wise, true or moral.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >> As much as I trust the scientific method better than religious beliefs
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > My reading on the subject suggests that science and religion being in
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > opposition is an article of faith among secular humanists, but the
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > evidence doesn't point to that conclusion. Galileo Galilei, for example,
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > was devoutly religious despite a previously supportive pope turning
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > against his work. Gregor Mendel was literally a monk.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Further to this, 'hard' scientists have adopted beliefs which are
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > anything but evidence-based. I note that pure reason is anti-empirical,
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > and that religious people also claim to have reason, so it does not make
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > any sense to bracket science and reason together as the antithesis of
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > religion. Take for example Descartes' belief that the human mind/soul
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > and body are separate entities that interact via the pineal gland. Or
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > the speculations of modern physicists which turn out to have no
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > supporting evidence (after a lot of time, money and energy have been
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > expended).
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Andy has focussed on US law in his article, but in the United Kingdom I
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > believe there is case to be made that the use of Free Software involves
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > a 'protected belief', with anti-discrimination measures in employment law.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > In the Maya Forstater case, a woman's research contract was not renewed
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > because she had stated on Twitter that a human male cannot become a
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > female (or give birth) as a consequence of social transition of their
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > gender identity. An employment tribunal ruled against her, but she won
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > on appeal, and subsequently won a discrimination claim:
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights/maya-forstater-wins-gender-critical-belief-claim
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Although I am not a barrister and this email does not constitute legal
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > advice, I believe it reasonable to suggest that a belief in personal use
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > of Free Software as a categorical imperative, one not subject to
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > compromise, could be a protected belief under the UK's Equality Act
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > 2010. This law can be very relevant to workplace or employment
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > discrimination claims in the UK.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > My reasoning is that Forstater's belief does not fall within a specific
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > religious tradition, and is derived from the science of biology, just as
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > the Church of Emacs is founded in computer science. Therefore the
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > discrimination she experienced was not directly analogous to religious
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > discrimination, like the case of a Jewish politician being pressured to
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > eat a bacon sandwich to demonstrate their solidarity with the working
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > class:
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Of course, religious traditions do advocate that spontaneous transitions
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > occur via divine intervention. For example, Zeus taking the form of a
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > swan, or an ant when fathering Myrmidon, the original Ant-Man. Therefore
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > for Forstater to believe that biology is real, and gender identity is a
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > social construct, is less 'religious' than the quasi-Cartesian belief
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > that people have a gendered soul which exists independently from the
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > body. Yet Forstater's belief based on the science of biology was held to
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > be protected by UK law.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Neither was it necessary to 'prove' the validity of Forstater's belief
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > one way or the other for the belief to be protected by law; only to
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > observe that she sincerely held the belief.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > On a purely practical level, any potential employee who understood
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > software ethics well enough to understand that being forced to use
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Microsoft Windows is morally unacceptable would win points with me.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Personally, I would not work for any company which seeks legal advice on
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > hiring and firing employees via Reddit, as that suggests general
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > cluelessness.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; > Cheers!
05:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.lewissilkin.com | Lewis Silkin - Maya Forstater wins gender critical belief claim
05:09 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Ed Miliband bacon sandwich photograph - Wikipedia
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > Thank you so much gentlemen for your very thoughtful, generous, and
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > informative comments. I've thought about them and incorporated as many
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > of your contributions as I can.
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > It's an interesting story - one very relevant to my own struggle
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > against university IT madness and bullying. The latest version
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > remains here for now:
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > Roy, unless there are any "You said what!?" objections in the next day
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > please do get it out on Techrights.
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > (note title update: is that okay Roy?)
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; > good wishes all,
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; My wife read it as well yesterday. No typos reported.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > > I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on the following with regard
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > > to clarity and message. It concerns recent remarks on the Internet
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > > on "religious choice" and technology.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > Would you please tell me the URL for those remarks?
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > I'd like to see them.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > In the US, a common manner of deprecating any ethics-based criticism
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > of anything that people don't usually take an ethics-based stand on,
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > is to call it "religion". The meaning of this insult is that the
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > disagreement is a mere sectarian dispute, not worth arguing about
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > because these beliefs are arbitrary matters of personal faith.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > Is it the case that the remarks you refer to are an example of that?
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > The response that technology companies are all alike is no argument.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > The moral individual is simply left with an obligation to choose the
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > least evil digital technologies. Today that choice seems very clearly
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > to be independent, Free Open Source Software like Linux.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > That is valid, as far as it goes -- though it feels like damning with
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > faint praise. As far as ethics and software areconcerned, choosing
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > freedom-respecting free software, such as the GNU/Linux system, is not
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > merely quantitatlvely_less_ evil. It_eliminates_ a certain aspect
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > of the evil. It deserves stronger praise.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > This ethical stance is the free software movement, and comes from the
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > GNU system. "Open source" and Linux more or less avoid adding to that
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > evil, but_not_ based on an ethical stance about those issues.
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > Wouldn't it be proper, then, to say "free software and the GNU/Linux
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; > operating system" to put the emphasis on those who take the stance?
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; > Roy, unless there are any "You said what!?" objections in the next day
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; > please do get it out on Techrights.
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; I'll wait till RMS gets a reply. ;-)
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > Thanks for sharing this write-up! Before I continue, the same user
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > actually posted an update
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > <https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHR/comments/11gztsz/updatega_employee_claims_she_cant_use_microsoft/> to say that after a number of meetings with HR, Legal & IT, they gave her a shot and accommodated the requests. This was not due to a force of hand, as the company has legal grounds to declare "undue hardship" and deny the request. If true, I see this as a win, not only for the employee personally, but for the open-source community a
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; ll the same. As you mentioned, "Nobody ever got fired for choosing Microsoft". It's nice to see the same in the opposite direction for once.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > I'm sure as no surprise to you, I totally agree with your stance on
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > Microsoft, like most Big Tech companies, being totally unethical; as
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > they have proved multiple times.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > On the surface, as you say, it seems very much like a hijacking of
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > "bona-fide religious identity". Anyone that encompasses a good set of
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > morals and fully understands the situation with Big Tech companies of
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > course would condemn the companies all the same as someone who has
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > inherited their morals from a religious belief - though I don't see it
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > to be damaging to use religion as a specific reason for choosing not to
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > use their products and/or services.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > It's hard to depict a whole company as anti-religious in this scenario
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > just to make a case under employment laws as "ethics" don't (rather
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > annoyingly) carry the same weight, though, for an example, if I stopped
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > working for a software/MSP company because the people who manage and/or
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > profit were/are racist or offensive/damaging toward a group of people, I
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > would argue against using their services at a new company for obvious
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > reasons. Maybe this person could've had previous connections or worked
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > at Microsoft. Whilst that's unlikely to have happened here and is likely
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > to be a fellow open-source activist making waves, I think that is
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > something to consider too.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > In addition, as we know, Big Tech companies such as Microsoft have their
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > fingers in so many pies these days and have done a lot of dirty work to
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > keep themselves on the competitive ladder, increase profits, etc. It
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > wouldn't take too much strength of the imagination to consider one of
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > these companies has been greedy, slandered, stolen (AI training projects
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > & artwork situation as an example), etc. Apple's sweatshops in China and
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > the suffering it causes/has caused to human lives is enough to put me
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > off ever buying their products because of my personal morals and ethics,
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > despite not following a recognised religion.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > In my opinion, paying or using their products/services is showing
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > support for the company which is taking all these actions. The list of
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > unethical actions by Big Tech in favour of profit will go on. The recent
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > sudden lay-offs of so many loyal staff members with little warning as a
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > prime example.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > Forcing someone to use products and services that they do not agree with
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > is wrong, whether they are religious or not, of course. Though, I feel
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > there is an additional level of stress that could stem here from someone
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > who may genuinely feel that they are betraying their religion by using
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > them, rather than just the feeling that they have betrayed their
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > personal ethics. Knowing how much companies like Microsoft now dominate
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > the tech industry, it can make someone starting their career in tech
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > with these beliefs incredibly difficult compared to an individual that
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > doesn't mind or is not aware of the problems it is causing / has caused.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > Anti-Microsoft could be considered career suicide nowadays.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > It's a difficult one; there's no way of drawing a definitive line in the
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > sand when the tide keeps coming in and washing over it. Though I think
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > when we continue to push back with whatever means necessary to fight for
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > technological freedom, whether it be personal or religious ethical
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > beliefs, both are equally contributing in a positive way to the cause
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > and raising awareness - as we have seen from the Reddit post being
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > shared to Hacker News and the email chain it has sparked here. It
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > spreads the word and causes people to question their morals. I would
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > think the religious matter is just helping to carry the ethical
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > arguments, whether they are of a collective religious belief or derived
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > from widely recognised personal ethics.
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; >
05:24 schestowitz[TR]; > All my very best,
05:24 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Reddit - Dive into anything
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > In other news, Daniel J. Burnstein gets 15 to 35 years of life
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > imprisonment for Bank Fraud across 15 US States - totaling close to over
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > 5 Million.
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; >
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > At arraignment Burnstein who fraudulently claimed to be part of the
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > Internet Engineering Task Force (the IETF), which hasn't existed for
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > over 61 years has time to reflect on how big black dong is going to
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > taste in his mouth, whilst finding Jesus in a federal penitentiary.
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; >
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > King Charles (KARL the Third) eyeball's 41 Trillion Enron Fraud Bill -
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > whilst shelling Russia exclaiming "One is Broke!" and the "Warburg
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > Banking Pedophile's wire has cost me my family fortune! I need a new
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > world order!"
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; >
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; > Regards
11:12 schestowitz[TR]; x https://droidgazette.com/he-wasnt-a-perfect-thing-bill-gates-reveals-one-flaw-apple-co-founder-steve-jobs-had/
11:12 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-droidgazette.com | 'He wasnt a perfect thing': Bill Gates reveals one flaw Apple co-founder Steve Jobs had - Droid Gazzete
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; <li>
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://jcs.org/2023/03/04/crt">Taking a Better Photo of a CRT Screen with a Phone</a></h5>
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; <p>As a frequent reader of the retrobattlestations and VintageApple subreddits, I see a lot of photos of CRT screens that show significant scanlines resulting in images like the one on the left.</p>
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
11:24 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
11:24 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-jcs.org | Taking a Better Photo of a CRT Screen with a Phone - joshua stein
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; <li>
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/pine64-pinetab-2-price-release-date/">PineTab 2 Linux Tablet Price & Potential Release Date</a></h5>
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; <p>Been pining to hear more about the PineTab 2 Linux tablet? If so, youre in luck as new details have been shared by makers Pine64 in their latest monthly update.</p>
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
11:54 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.omglinux.com | PineTab 2 Linux Tablet Price & Potential Release Date - OMG! Linux
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12:11 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/03/using-r-in-an-high-performance-computing-environment/">Using R in an High Performance Computing environment</a></h5>
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; <p>In an HPC environment, one allocates some resources (cores and memory) for running an R program. In a PC this step is hidden in most cases from the user but under the hood, the R program would assume that all resources in that machine are available and it would try to use them. As in HPC, this step should be done explicitly (through the use of batch text files or some web server such as Ope
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; n OnDemand) you will need to consciously decide how much CPU and memory power your R program will use in an efficient manner. For instance, if you request 10 cores and 20 GB (RAM) but your application is not parallelized (serial code) and uses < 1GB, 9 cores will be idle during the simulation. Sometimes, it is fine to work with this type of setup if your application needs more memory than what is provided by a single core though. Al
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; so, take into account that most HPC centers work in a project-based manner with some possible cost (monetary or with job priority for instance).</p>
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
12:11 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
12:11 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Using R in an High Performance Computing environment | R-bloggers
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; <li>
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://tedium.co/2023/03/04/self-hosted-saas-app-alternatives/">Self-Host All the Things?</a></h5>
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; <p>Today in Tedium: Recently, I got a bit of a shocking message in the form of a bill. The bill came from a company named Zapier, which produces a tool for automating tasks of all kinds, such as uploading images to a website or adding lines of text to a spreadsheet. This tool was great for a long time, but then the company decided to raise the price out of nowhere. And not by a little, but by more tha
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; n three times the cost of what I was paying. I immediately cut back the plan to the minimum needed in response to this unexpected price increase, which honestly kind of upset me a lot. This got me thinking: Why pay all this extra money to another software-as-a-service (SaaS) platform that doesnt necessarily have my best interests at heart? Is there a better way? So, with that in mind, Ive been doing some research on tools that
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; I think could be replaced with open-source alternatives without too much trouble, as long as the tools make sense for my needs. But, as always, the rub is always there. Todays Tedium considers open-source alternatives to a few common categories of software-as-a-service tools. Ernie @ Tedium</p>
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
12:18 schestowitz[TR];
12:18 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-tedium.co | Self-Hosted SaaS Alternatives: Replacing Paid Tools With FOSS Tools
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12:43 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://www.securityweek.com/epa-mandates-states-report-on-cyber-threats-to-water-systems/">EPA Mandates States Report on Cyber Threats to Water Systems</a> [iophk: Windows TCO]</h5>
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; <p>The Biden administration on Friday said it would require states to report on cybersecurity threats in their audits of public water systems, a day after it released a broader plan to protect critical infrastructure against cyberattacks.</p>
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; <p>The Environmental Protection Agency said public water systems are increasingly at risk from cyberattacks that amount to a threat to public health.</p>
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
12:43 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-EPA Mandates States Report on Cyber Threats to Water Systems - SecurityWeek
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12:44 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/03/05/maritime-cybersecurity-a-potential-threat-to-indias-national-security/">Maritime Cybersecurity: A Potential Threat to Indias National Security</a></h5>
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; <p>Pirates and opposing nations have been a menace to the maritime transportation business for thousands of years, but as the sector has developed and technology has been more thoroughly integrated for enhanced efficiency, so too has the magnitude of possible cyber threats. Now, even using something as simple as a USB flash drive, or even an unsecured Wi-Fi, the hacker can get access to the cr
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; itical systems of the vessel, thereby obstructing the entire port operations. For example, a suspected ransomware attack on the Management Information System (MIS) crippled the operations of the Jawaharlal Nehru Port, Mumbai, in 2017 and again in 2022.</p>
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
12:44 schestowitz[TR];
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12:46 schestowitz[TR]; <li>
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; <h5><a href="https://rubenerd.com/organising-dos-software-and-drivers-in-an-iso/">Organising DOS software and drivers in an ISO</a></h5>
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; <blockquote>
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; <p>But in another form of what I dub the Buffet Problem, you end up downloading a ton of stuff into various folders, and it quickly becomes unwieldy. As an example, Ill buy a EGA graphics card for an old machine, and soon my current desktop is full of archives and folders of various drivers, utilities, and versions of those drivers and utilities to try. Being from different places and times
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; , theres no consistency to their naming, or archive type. Even if something works, I soon forget which it was, and the whole exercise repeats.</p>
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; </blockquote>
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; </li>
12:46 -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Rubenerd: Organising DOS software and drivers in an ISO
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14:41 schestowitz[TR]; > Hi Roy,
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; > Richard has responded and I've made some minor corrections to properly
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; > frame Free Software and GNU. I think it's good to go.
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; > cheers,
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17:49 schestowitz[TR]; >> It's the same when talking about religion.
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > *nod*
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; >
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > People who follow one religion often despise those who follow "opposed"
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > alternatives. That's quite aparent when reading the comments to the
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > reddit posts that Andy referenced.
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; >
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > It's a dangerous tool to use in the court of public opinion, where other
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > creeds are likely to be dominant, but it may be useful to use in a court
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > of law, where contra-majority norms can sometimes be enforced.
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > Yeah, we're still working on them. We have some translations underway,
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > and those have prompted some reviews to the originals. Hopefully they
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; > will settle soon, and then we can start a publishing schedule countdown.
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; My wife rianne has read that as well.
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; > Very good. Thank you Roy. I will spread the word.
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; > a.
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