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beginning of new day, July 31

00:35 schestowitz-TR; Gulag search started indexing the new domain

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1 AM, July 31

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2 AM, July 31

02:21 schestowitz-TR; I'm redoing all my monitoring, starting with "do I still need this?"

02:21 schestowitz-TR; gm

02:26 Techrights-sec2; ok the script now seems to work with PNG, GIF, and JPEG. There were

02:26 Techrights-sec2; not only dependencies but (to me) stealthy build dependencies. The latter

02:26 Techrights-sec2; have been removed again.

02:26 Techrights-sec2; though the incron part is still needing work

02:26 Techrights-sec2; gm

02:26 Techrights-sec2; I'm not sure how they can be goaded into getting back on track without pissing

02:26 Techrights-sec2; them off. It's not really clear how they can rationalize the direction they've

02:26 Techrights-sec2; chosen to take.

02:28 schestowitz-TR; gm

02:28 schestowitz-TR; Im doing a draft now about why we move off bloated web

02:28 schestowitz-TR; I feel as if, on net/web issue, we do have a bit of away

02:28 schestowitz-TR; not just freesw and swpats

02:28 schestowitz-TR; while eff does none of the work it used to do in that area

02:28 schestowitz-TR; an hour ago I went to doctorow's blog

02:28 schestowitz-TR; it's... how should I put it politely?

02:28 schestowitz-TR; does not appeal to me

02:28 schestowitz-TR; he also has not ritten much lately in eff.org

02:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe they use him like a mascot

02:28 schestowitz-TR; a la LF+Torvalds

02:28 Techrights-sec2;

02:28 Techrights-sec2; could be

02:28 Techrights-sec2; using him for plausible deniablity in regards to accusations of having given

02:28 Techrights-sec2; up on or even working against their original charter?

02:28 Techrights-sec2; The upload directory still has no provision for SVG

02:39 schestowitz-TR; i added an scg file (freebsd fdn) an hour ago

02:39 schestowitz-TR; *svg file

02:39 schestowitz-TR; to Features

02:39 schestowitz-TR; got 7 mins to finish the post before bulletin kicks off

02:39 schestowitz-TR; it's in drafts atm

02:39 schestowitz-TR; wow, many typos, i found about 12

02:39 schestowitz-TR; ok, I corrected and abbr'ed as per your spotting, too

02:39 schestowitz-TR; we need to convince people that putting ALL eggs in the WWW basket isn't the best approach

02:39 schestowitz-TR; and more protocols should be supported

02:40 Techrights-sec2; checking

02:40 Techrights-sec2; again, acronymns need to be expanded on first occurrence in the post

02:40 Techrights-sec2; CMS, EPO, etc

02:40 Techrights-sec2; (there are several EPO iirc)

02:40 Techrights-sec2; s/the technical debt/technical debt/

02:40 Techrights-sec2; or

02:40 Techrights-sec2; s/the technical debt/our technical debt/

02:40 Techrights-sec2; I've got an idea for a possible method to deal with SVG.

02:40 Techrights-sec2; However, experiments will have to wait a bit.

02:40 Techrights-sec2; Back in a few hours

02:56 schestowitz-TR; NHS Data: The UKs COVID-19 Vaccination Levels Have Reached Lowest Levels Since It Began (But COVID-Linked Casualties at Highest Level in More Than 3 Months) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/31/covid-19-uk-jabs/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/31/covid-19-uk-jabs/

02:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Data: The UKs COVID-19 Vaccination Levels Have Reached Lowest Levels Since It Began (But COVID-Linked Casualties at Highest Level in More Than 3 Months)


3 AM, July 31

03:08 schestowitz-TR; spoke to my dad in length yesterdya, he came to accept I'll likely leave my job this year

03:08 schestowitz-TR; we spoke a lot about the fakeness of "the market" among other things

03:08 schestowitz-TR; he's even more cynical than I am


5 AM, July 31

05:05 schestowitz-TR; # tmux a -t logs

05:09 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

05:13 schestowitz; git commit htdocs/navigation.html

05:13 schestowitz; [master 3b5fb43] added more clarify

05:13 schestowitz; 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

05:13 schestowitz; roy@vonick:~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org$ git push

05:13 schestowitz; git@news.tuxmachines.org: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).

05:13 schestowitz; fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

05:13 schestowitz; Please make sure you have the correct access rights

05:13 schestowitz; and the repository exists.

05:21 schestowitz-TR; *WARNING* it looks like some upstream change was registered, based on my branch, but

05:21 schestowitz-TR; the permission issue MAY cause issues (better to handle with care)

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6 AM, July 31

06:49 Techrights-sec2; checking

06:51 schestowitz-TR; I've begun installing agate

06:51 schestowitz-TR; oddly running the agate binaries in alpine does not work with the x86_64 bins

06:51 schestowitz-TR; also, I loooked at or stufied about a dozen other servers, some have many deps

06:51 schestowitz-TR; and do not have binaries at all, which means adding loads of things just to compile them

06:51 schestowitz-TR; there is a new account, "gemini", with a script in ~

06:51 schestowitz-TR; the bin directory contains 5 differenct binaries (versions) of agate

06:51 schestowitz-TR; the latest has the most recent date in the file timestamp

06:59 schestowitz-TR; biab


7 AM, July 31

07:00 Techrights-sec2; ack

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8 AM, July 31

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9 AM, July 31

09:28 Techrights-sec2; checking

09:28 Techrights-sec2; try Git again

09:28 schestowitz-TR; back

09:30 schestowitz; git pull

09:30 schestowitz; git@news.tuxmachines.org: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).

09:30 schestowitz; fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

09:30 schestowitz; Please make sure you have the correct access rights

09:30 schestowitz; and the repository exists.

09:30 schestowitz-TR; should I push or pull?

09:30 Techrights-sec2; try pulling first

09:30 Techrights-sec2; or just plain ssh git@news...

09:30 Techrights-sec2; ok which key are you using?

09:36 schestowitz-TR; git-tr key?

09:36 schestowitz-TR; I can use the agent to select one

09:37 Techrights-sec2; it should be 2048 SHA256:XZo185K3yXSBgUJG0CYQj6pqyUnM62dgDc2tUDNPjes roy's git access (RSA)

09:37 Techrights-sec2; If you are using an agent for the keys then you might need to specify

09:37 Techrights-sec2; IdentitiesOnly as well as use IdentityFile to point to the specific key

09:37 Techrights-sec2; checking logs ...

09:37 Techrights-sec2; git pull origin master ?

09:37 Techrights-sec2; from the logs it looks like you are connecting

09:37 Techrights-sec2; can you get the Git Shell ?

09:37 Techrights-sec2; ssh git@news.tuxmachines.org

09:37 Techrights-sec2; That should show Git but as an interactive shell

09:40 schestowitz-TR; solved

09:40 schestowitz-TR; you nailed it when you suggested it uses the wrong key

09:40 schestowitz-TR; after the reboot

09:40 schestowitz-TR; I can get interactive shell

09:40 schestowitz-TR; I could push OK

09:40 schestowitz-TR; and pull

09:40 schestowitz-TR; after ssh-agent bash

09:40 schestowitz-TR; ssh-add ... the git key

09:40 schestowitz-TR; I have like a dozen keys left over from clients at work

09:40 schestowitz-TR; can you see the change I commited? it's small

09:40 Techrights-sec2; I can push an pull from here and am using the same login so I'm not sure what to

09:40 Techrights-sec2; guess

09:40 Techrights-sec2; yes thats a way to put a single key into the agent, another is to set up

09:40 Techrights-sec2; some configurations in ~/.ssh/config for that host including maybe a shortcut

09:40 Techrights-sec2; Yes, then IdentitiesOnly is essential.

09:40 Techrights-sec2; checking..

09:43 schestowitz; 'I care! "You know what annoys me most about the Linux comuniuty?" Microsoft writers like Brian Fagioli, writing about Linux with clickbait articles (because no one reads BetaNews), to actually promote Windows!"

09:43 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167827#comment-34459

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167827#comment-34459

09:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 40 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.18, Improved 3D Support, and More | Tux Machines

09:44 Techrights-sec2; yes but there looks like there is a misspelling

09:44 Techrights-sec2; ack

09:46 schestowitz-TR; nano has no spellchecked ^_^

09:46 schestowitz-TR; that's wwhy it's good it's done via scm

09:46 schestowitz-TR; *spellchecker

09:46 schestowitz-TR; btw, agate is a mystey to me, I assume the binary isn't working with alpine, I tried all sorts of things.

09:46 schestowitz-TR; otherwwise it's small step away, I alreadyhave th domain configured

09:52 Techrights-sec2; ack

09:52 Techrights-sec2; checking

09:52 Techrights-sec2; agate is not available for Alpine afaik

09:55 schestowitz-TR; I checked vger and many others

09:55 schestowitz-TR; now literally downloading them and trying

09:55 schestowitz-TR; *not

09:55 schestowitz-TR; (sorry, rianne was talking to me)

09:55 schestowitz-TR; but studied almost the 30 servers that exist

09:55 schestowitz-TR; unless the distros have them (afaik, vger is in openbsd)

09:55 schestowitz-TR; you must compile and even their their quality is an unknown)

09:55 schestowitz-TR; because I wanted to set up the repo as public over gemini:// -- lots of code we can reuse from TR

09:55 Techrights-sec2; % apk search agate | wc -l

09:55 Techrights-sec2;

09:55 Techrights-sec2; vger requires a bit of special knowledge about certificates

09:59 Techrights-sec2; the quality of vger is probably reasonable but it's not as simple to run

09:59 Techrights-sec2; as agate


10 AM, July 31

10:00 schestowitz-TR; to compile agate you enter a world of rust, and having tried to compile their stuff before, I don't want to try again because it's a lot

10:00 schestowitz-TR; of messing about with massive packages. hundreds of megabytes

10:01 Techrights-sec2; too much of a mess to do on what may become a production machine

10:01 Techrights-sec2; can you remove the unneede packages ?

10:03 schestowitz-TR; no, no... not this machine

10:03 schestowitz-TR; that was over a year ago on some disposable arm machine

10:03 schestowitz-TR; I think I tried to compile some gemini clients

10:03 schestowitz-TR; this was the only way

10:03 Techrights-sec2; ok

10:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Election deniers" is a new term for people who don't like PROPRIETARY voting machines with Windows back doors, according to Microsoft- and Bill-Gates funded NPR https://text.npr.org/1113707783 | Source: NPR

↺ https://text.npr.org/1113707783

10:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Election deniers are running to control voting. Here's how they've fared so far

10:07 schestowitz-TR; we need to be careful of how idiots can exdploited to make these straw man arguments

10:07 Techrights-sec2; the "election deniers" has been a very successful strawman attack

10:07 Techrights-sec2; yep

10:07 Techrights-sec2; and its a smear through association

10:12 Techrights-sec2; it certainly deflects against the long overdue discussion about M$ and Windows

10:14 schestowitz-TR; also diebold and .... I forgot the name of the new company...

10:14 schestowitz-TR; dominion?

10:14 schestowitz-TR; they are file frivolous lawsuits to scare anyone who dares question their "products"

10:20 Techrights-sec2; David Stutz tried to initiate that conversation long ago, TR has links

10:20 Techrights-sec2; to his work

10:20 Techrights-sec2; diebold and the other change names and ownership to hide

10:20 Techrights-sec2; they want people to think of them as definitive of computing rather than

10:20 Techrights-sec2; fourth rate wannabees; the politicians help them promote that in exchange

10:20 Techrights-sec2; for bugdoors and backdoors

10:20 Techrights-sec2; and campaign donations

10:20 Techrights-sec2; There was also the government official (whose name escapes me) who warned of

10:20 Techrights-sec2; the threat to national security caused by both M$ shoddy products and the

10:20 Techrights-sec2; monoculture built up around them.

10:21 schestowitz-TR; straussman?

10:23 Techrights-sec2; Yes, that's him. Between the two, they bring up very important points but they

10:23 Techrights-sec2; did it at the end of the era before the effects of M$ (and Bill) having entered

10:23 Techrights-sec2; polticis were felt. Bill stepped down from M$ when it became clear that the

10:23 Techrights-sec2; company ran at a loss. After that, it seems they have lived on due to a

10:23 Techrights-sec2; combination of government bailouts and Enron-style accounting

10:28 schestowitz-TR; reminds me to hurry up with rss feeds today and publish Part 4

10:28 schestowitz-TR; anyway, from experience, muich of what you are told is false of half-truth

10:28 schestowitz-TR; esp. when messaging is a near-monopolyt

10:28 schestowitz-TR; re profits, security etc. ... even hits.. se clickfraud spamnil, twitter, FB...

10:28 schestowitz-TR; they try to hide the fact of their demise and resort to desperate measured

10:28 schestowitz-TR; *measures

10:28 schestowitz-TR; "ty to look big!!@"

10:28 schestowitz-TR; *try

10:31 Techrights-sec2; M$ has been rewriting history, we are at the point that the world is being told

10:31 Techrights-sec2; half-truths about ICT and the history of the Internet. Soon it will be 25%

10:31 Techrights-sec2; and a while after that 12.5% and so on. I'm not sure what the half-life is

10:31 Techrights-sec2; but it works on a scale of a decade or so. Kids are fed complete fiction about

10:31 Techrights-sec2; ICT these days, and especially about M$ and Bill. Recall the Dilbert strips

10:31 Techrights-sec2; linked to recently and how public perception has been warped.

10:31 schestowitz-TR; i think it's c cross-disciplinary issue

10:31 schestowitz-TR; and not a new issue either

10:31 schestowitz-TR; in politics, in particcular..

10:31 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is politics

10:31 schestowitz-TR; a failing law student

10:31 schestowitz-TR; who broke the law

10:31 schestowitz-TR; and "had a nose for money"

10:31 schestowitz-TR; (quote)

10:32 Techrights-sec2; Yep M$ has been politics for about 20 years

10:32 Techrights-sec2; if one does not accept that it has subsequently moved from politics to being

10:32 Techrights-sec2; more of a cult based on politics and power.

10:35 schestowitz-TR; some people are better to countering it

10:35 schestowitz-TR; I worry abotu the approach taken by Daniel P in recent 1-2 years

10:35 schestowitz-TR; but then again the tone and style waere never perfecy, depending on what domaini

10:35 schestowitz-TR; it was posted in

10:35 schestowitz-TR; debian.community was always the worst

10:35 schestowitz-TR; now he links to a domain that does not work, suicide.dev

10:35 schestowitz-TR; suicide.fyi works, but the articles are not there

10:35 schestowitz-TR; so he makes technical errors

10:35 schestowitz-TR; the nasty comments in law paint him as "qanon" and mentally ill

10:35 schestowitz-TR; it has gotten so bad that they paint a leftist who fought for aboroginal people

10:35 schestowitz-TR; by technical means as some sort of republican nut

10:35 schestowitz-TR; like spamnil trying to repeatedly call me trump

10:35 schestowitz-TR; like that made any sense at all...

10:37 Techrights-sec2; yes he has been the target of brigading, and still is

10:37 Techrights-sec2; since he is (mostly) on the right track they will do anything they can

10:37 Techrights-sec2; to lie about him and attack him personally in order to distract from the topics

10:37 Techrights-sec2; he brings up and the events he exposes.

10:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "election denialism"? This is a smear that's now being used to compare critics of PROPRIETARY voting machines with Windows BACK DOORS... to Nazis https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-groups-are-organizing-election-denialism-into-a-coordinated-force/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-groups-are-organizing-election-denialism-into-a-coordinated-force/

10:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Right-Wing Groups Are Turning Election Denialism Into an Organized Force

10:40 Techrights-sec2; if lying is the only tool they have, or the most effective one, that's the one

10:40 Techrights-sec2; they'll use since this, for them, is an acceptable means to their end

10:42 schestowitz-TR; a pattern I noticed is, they intentionally libel the person

10:42 schestowitz-TR; but since the person is outspoken and opinionated, then they claim to be the victims

10:42 schestowitz-TR; of defamation themselves

10:42 schestowitz-TR; to leverage a sense of partiry

10:42 schestowitz-TR; so nobody is suing, but bridges have greater capacity to spread lies... far

10:42 schestowitz-TR; more online accounts

10:42 schestowitz-TR; and isolation tactics are used... tying to weed out "sympathisers" by threats

10:42 schestowitz-TR; or further bridading

10:42 schestowitz-TR; see rms and oliva for example

10:43 schestowitz-TR; sometimes lies and jokes are used as means of "revenge" against prior lies against onself

10:43 schestowitz-TR; but detached from any context, people cannot see this

10:43 schestowitz-TR; in social control media, this is further megnified

10:43 schestowitz-TR; people who provoke cops and onyl; start filming when the cop/s react

10:45 Techrights-sec2; social control media decreases the public's already short attention span, now

10:45 Techrights-sec2; even soundbites are too long to follow

10:45 schestowitz-TR; [10:12] <techrights-news> On the Web, owing to INTENTIONALLY addictive sites and behaviour, if you begin to suspect your "consumption" of info is not "rational", it probably is not. Time to reassess and change.

10:51 schestowitz-TR; let's leave gemini aside for now

10:51 schestowitz-TR; it has a 1-year cert and placeholder for now, that's better than before at least

10:51 schestowitz-TR; we don't even produce any gmi files, but since I had git woes I thought I'd have a stab of pulling

10:51 Techrights-sec2; ack

10:51 Techrights-sec2; ok

10:51 schestowitz-TR; into gemini, then do the same as in TR

10:52 schestowitz-TR; while doing this britney put agate on her laptop

10:52 schestowitz-TR; the page we wrote with instructions is still very visible

10:52 schestowitz-TR; and some people who used it contacted me for pointers

10:52 schestowitz-TR; ariadne wants to explore gemnini, maybe will build something for alpine as an inside further down the line (upstream)

10:53 Techrights-sec2; ack

10:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:54] <techrights-news> iophk: thus the CHIPS Act can be seen as nothing more than a bailout https://www.pcworld.com/article/823871/intel-confirms-it-will-raise-prices-and-has-killed-optane.html

↺ https://www.pcworld.com/article/823871/intel-confirms-it-will-raise-prices-and-has-killed-optane.html

10:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel confirms it will raise CPU prices after losing $500 million this quarter | PCWorld

10:56 schestowitz-TR; it is a KIND of bailour

10:56 schestowitz-TR; banks: "can't let us fail, we have people's money!!!"

10:56 schestowitz-TR; GIAFAM (IBM, Intel): "help... if we fail, as a business, it's a NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS"

10:56 schestowitz-TR; the rich are stealing all the cookies from the jar at the EXPENSE of the POOR

10:56 Techrights-sec2; M$ -- "if we fail, you lose backdoor access to the world's government's

10:56 Techrights-sec2; internal communications and documents..."

10:56 Techrights-sec2; s/you/spies/


11 AM, July 31

11:00 schestowitz-TR; and "medical records"...."military facilities"...

11:00 schestowitz-TR; "polikce access to cameras in people's homes

11:00 schestowitz-TR; one laptop of rianne uses chrome, the browserd

11:00 schestowitz-TR; I told her to close it when she's not working

11:00 schestowitz-TR; god knows what this POS can access

11:00 schestowitz-TR; happened before with debian (reportedly had always on mic access)

11:00 schestowitz-TR; Gulag was like, "oh, oops, you noticed? ok, will change, real sorry lol"

11:00 schestowitz-TR; I've noticed that dave winder, formerr itwire, not forbes, constabntly defends microsof

11:00 schestowitz-TR; like he always did at itwire

11:00 schestowitz-TR; he covers every "security" thing other than Microsdoft blunders

11:00 schestowitz-TR; it's so shallow, esp. if you know his history

11:00 schestowitz-TR; sam varghese is 0% signal the poast 2 months

11:00 schestowitz-TR; i have his rss feed

11:00 Techrights-sec2; yes, very selective coverage in order to distort public perception

11:01 schestowitz-TR; CISA does the same

11:02 schestowitz-TR; I put some examples in IRC

11:02 schestowitz-TR; some don't go into Daily Links

11:02 schestowitz-TR; it's obscene

11:02 schestowitz-TR; I reckon many are "former" Softers

11:02 schestowitz-TR; "security" hacks

11:02 Techrights-sec2; I am concerned about Sam since he was fading away for a while prior to basically

11:02 Techrights-sec2; disappearing

11:04 schestowitz-TR; he helped mobsters attack rms

11:04 schestowitz-TR; so rianne lost sympathy for him already

11:04 schestowitz-TR; like sjvn, we dubbed them ther "rogue beards" or sorts

11:04 schestowitz-TR; or "beard envy"

11:05 schestowitz-TR; play of wordds on "penis envy" (Freud)

11:05 schestowitz-TR; if you look at the legacy of sjvn, esp. since quinstreet took his site offline with a decade's hard work

11:05 schestowitz-TR; (we did managed to salvage LinuxDevices.com after diplomacy)

11:07 Techrights-sec2; ack

11:09 schestowitz-TR; oh, wow, so gardiner sells out to Gulag too

11:09 schestowitz-TR; double-fisting with DRM and malware

11:09 schestowitz-TR; just noticed in Daily Links

11:09 schestowitz-TR; btw, his videos are still almost Valve exclusive, now also Gulag excusive

11:09 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon Gulag will spread EME some more in videos

11:09 schestowitz-TR; trying to become another netflix to out-Microsoft them

11:10 schestowitz-TR; tech is getting truly ugly

11:10 schestowitz-TR; all I do is, toss a webm out there, done

11:10 schestowitz-TR; no JS and "ciommunity guidelines"

11:10 schestowitz-TR; that's what the web was supposed to be like

11:10 schestowitz-TR; x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/business-analytics/it-brings-dry-spell-to-white-collar-job-market-in-july/93232362

↺ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/business-analytics/it-brings-dry-spell-to-white-collar-job-market-in-july/93232362

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | IT brings dry spell to white-collar job market in July, CIO News, ET CIO

11:10 schestowitz-TR; [11:10] <schestowitz> # m$ linked-in is not an authoritative source

11:10 schestowitz-TR; github: all coders

11:10 schestowitz-TR; linkedin: all jobs

11:10 schestowitz-TR; microsoft all CRIME? ;-)

11:10 Techrights-sec2; yep those are the false narratives being pushed

11:13 schestowitz-TR; we need to teach people how to properly rebut that

11:13 schestowitz-TR; until the media stops it

11:13 schestowitz-TR; out of shame at least...

11:14 schestowitz-TR; and until the relative share of these "Microsoft" (NSA-funded) companies decreases enough

11:14 schestowitz-TR; they never start from below

11:14 schestowitz-TR; even MS Office was bought from the top

11:14 schestowitz-TR; codeplex failed, soapbox failed...

11:14 Techrights-sec2; yes, it is facilitated by having a proper reference database so one can

11:14 Techrights-sec2; pull up URLs and annotations quickly and easily any time they dust off olld

11:14 Techrights-sec2; debunked material; being able to do that quickly and easily leave more thought

11:14 Techrights-sec2; for then going to the counter attac and addressing what they are distracting

11:14 Techrights-sec2; from

11:14 Techrights-sec2; with M$ there is almost always an element of distraction

11:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'll do a video re netcraft today

11:16 schestowitz-TR; and mrntion uefi in passing

11:16 schestowitz-TR; i still have some ntoes

11:23 schestowitz-TR; OK, gonna do daily links now, let's see if the header is updated after the push

11:23 schestowitz-TR; I assume there's an extra step to pull into the htdocs dir

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11:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Jack Wallen promoting Microsoft TypeScript. Did his bosses compromise him too?

11:35 Techrights-sec2; yes the pull has to happen manually though now with the update script in the

11:35 Techrights-sec2; /home/git/tuxmacines.org/ hierarchy that might be automatable, assuming there

11:35 Techrights-sec2; are no changes made in the ServerRoot

11:36 schestowitz-TR; I'm aboi21ut to post howtos and wanted to see if I got the hypertext right

11:49 Techrights-sec2; checking

11:49 Techrights-sec2; URL?

11:50 schestowitz-TR; any of the latest 4 additions

11:50 schestowitz-TR; I am not sure if the top part is included upon request rather than "off-line"

11:51 Techrights-sec2; which top part?

11:51 schestowitz-TR; the one that includes alpha notice


noon, July 31

12:09 Techrights-sec2; yes, live or production

12:09 Techrights-sec2; checking

12:14 Techrights-sec2; it's possible to roll back the commit locally then

12:14 Techrights-sec2; but I have not corrected it yet

12:15 schestowitz-TR; was the typo you spooted "livre"? I should ghave typed "live"

12:15 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to push the typo correction

12:15 schestowitz-TR; in case you did correct it already, as you said you had spoted it

12:17 schestowitz-TR; I've pushed typo fix

12:17 schestowitz-TR; like I said, I just don't know yet how to pull from prod and don't want to try for fear of breaking something

12:17 schestowitz-TR; know how flaky git can be

12:17 schestowitz-TR; esp. on the server size (several users, one box)

12:17 Techrights-sec2; ok

12:17 Techrights-sec2; checking

12:17 Techrights-sec2; yes git seems a bit flakey

12:21 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I can see you've propagated the changes

12:21 schestowitz-TR; I'll keep my promise to myself to mention UEFI every day

12:21 schestowitz-TR; don't let the subject "age"

12:21 schestowitz-TR; then Part 4 of the Microsoft series

12:21 schestowitz-TR; Marius and I are having a good time joking at Fagioli's expense

12:21 schestowitz-TR; he wants us to blacklist him again

12:21 schestowitz-TR; he rips off his work

12:25 Techrights-sec2; ack

12:25 Techrights-sec2; looking at how to automate the updates

12:36 schestowitz-TR; a) will do two long microsoft posts now

12:36 schestowitz-TR; b) do you think it's too early to make a nice, lean tuxmachines.org front page akin to techrights.org front page

12:36 schestowitz-TR; that gives people an option to turn to the alpha?

12:36 schestowitz-TR; if they subscribe to the "wrong" site, we can later correct that with redirects

12:36 Techrights-sec2; too early IMO

12:36 schestowitz-TR; right

12:36 Techrights-sec2; too early IMO, still a lot of bugs to work out

12:38 schestowitz-TR; back in a bit, will focus on typing

12:38 schestowitz-TR; (marius btw is even less tolerant than me of microsoft apologists, he judt doesn't do articles about that)

12:38 Techrights-sec2; ack

12:38 schestowitz-TR; when you grow up in soviet romania you learn to keep the mouth zipped

12:39 Techrights-sec2; ack


1 PM, July 31

13:22 schestowitz-TR; draft

13:31 Techrights-sec2; https://apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-2315880316

↺ https://apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-2315880316

13:31 Techrights-sec2; apropos image

13:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | Quote wrongly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi | AP News

13:31 schestowitz-TR; I thought he was not first

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14:41 schestowitz-TR; publishe 2, not doing a third

14:41 schestowitz-TR; this morning I found photos of me iun portuga

14:41 schestowitz-TR; posted one just to make a point

14:41 schestowitz-TR; EPO = imposters

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14:53 britney; <schestowitz-TR> while doing this britney put agate on her laptop <--- nah, I put shavit on my laptop

14:54 britney; I got it working and made a gemini site on my laptop

14:55 britney; then i was trying to find a gemini host and no dice


3 PM, July 31

15:04 Techrights-sec2; ack

15:05 schestowitz-TR; britney: you need a domain

15:05 schestowitz-TR; and if you have fixed IP address, use that

15:05 schestowitz-TR; keep the laptop on

15:05 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:05 Techrights-sec2; ack

15:06 britney; I got it to work locally by adding my hostname to the hosts file and used that to connect

15:06 britney; everything works now

15:07 britney; i want to put my gemini site online though and i don't have a server

15:07 britney; so i want to find a gemini hosting provider that is free

15:11 britney; schestowitz-TR, https://imgur.com/a/h4hembP

↺ https://imgur.com/a/h4hembP

15:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imgur: The magic of the Internet

15:12 schestowitz-TR; who runs the world?

15:12 schestowitz-TR; football commentator

15:12 schestowitz-TR; david icke

15:12 britney; reptilians and neanderthals

15:12 schestowitz-TR; haha

15:13 schestowitz-TR; good one..

15:13 schestowitz-TR; football commentators

15:13 britney; it didnt take long to turn my site into a gemini one

15:13 britney; .gmi files are basically markdown

15:14 schestowitz-TR; even simpler

15:14 britney; =>gemini://archbtw/test.gmi This is a link

↺ gemini://archbtw/test.gmi

15:15 Techrights-sec2; might be a little more clarity on how the source was burned

15:15 Techrights-sec2; thanks be sure to annotate the links so that the text is informative even

15:15 Techrights-sec2; in Gemini

15:16 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:16 schestowitz-TR; I will add links

15:16 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:16 schestowitz-TR; I will add links

15:17 britney; schestowitz-TR, the index.gmi: https://imgur.com/a/aloheRq

↺ https://imgur.com/a/aloheRq

15:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imgur: The magic of the Internet

15:19 britney; i use arch btw

15:20 britney; so i made my hostname "archbtw"

15:21 britney; created my openssl keys for the domain archbtw

15:26 schestowitz-TR; adding headline, summary, image

15:26 Techrights-sec2; experimenting with MQTT now, perhaps will find a way to have Git updates

15:26 Techrights-sec2; published as notices there; it's set up with TLS v1.3 (both directions)

15:26 Techrights-sec2; client < -- > server and a password

15:26 schestowitz-TR; britney: archbtw :-)

15:30 Techrights-sec2; it's not running full time yet

15:48 schestowitz-TR; spamnil moved from clickfraud on videos weeks old

15:48 schestowitz-TR; to vikdeos days old

15:48 schestowitz-TR; 5 days, 11 views lol

15:48 schestowitz-TR; got to hide this

15:48 Techrights-sec2; I ignore him, just like the rest of the world

15:48 schestowitz-TR; i also noticed he noiw does a video per 2 dasys

15:48 schestowitz-TR; a huge slowdown

15:48 schestowitz-TR; but the problem is the dragging down of tghe brand

15:48 schestowitz-TR; "Linux has been around since the mid-1990s" https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/ what they speak of has been around since mid 80s

↺ https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/

15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is Linux? - Linux.com

15:48 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- What is Linux? - Linux.com

15:48 schestowitz-TR; ter sacking ALL writers and editors at Linux.com, James Zemlin ans Sheela Microsoft let a "former" Microsofter run the site, rehosted then in Pantheon https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux.com

↺ https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux.com

15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://www.linux.com | Netcraft

↺ http://www.linux.com

15:48 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://www.linux.com | Netcraft

↺ http://www.linux.com

15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux.com - News For Open Source Professionals

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4 PM, July 31

16:24 Techrights-sec2; acck

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16:48 Techrights-sec2; MQTT notifications for Git seems to be an option

16:49 Techrights-sec2; from any computer with the mosquitto-clients package installed

16:58 Techrights-sec2; the Paho client won't work because recent versions ban self-signed certificates


5 PM, July 31

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18:50 schestowitz-TR; doing db meaintenance on tm

18:50 schestowitz-TR; I had to run ddos protection for the first time in quite a while

18:50 schestowitz-TR; the db was still OK, I checked it

18:50 schestowitz-TR; as for a while I saw an anomaly

18:50 Techrights-sec2; ack

18:50 schestowitz-TR; we'll look back a month at some stage anyway

18:50 schestowitz-TR; it won't be a major step, just a routine thing, then copy across the new nodes as static

18:50 schestowitz-TR; so the past ~2000 nodes will all be static pages, reducing the load by a lot

18:59 Techrights-sec2; static is a much lower load on the system


7 PM, July 31

19:08 schestowitz-TR; off-topic rant/mind-drift

19:08 schestowitz-TR; last night I checked lxer it it seemed like a fossil

19:08 schestowitz-TR; original articles there were like once a year or less

19:08 schestowitz-TR; crew is like one person and many pages are a decade out of data

19:08 schestowitz-TR; no comment in over a month

19:08 schestowitz-TR; and they had editorial perils (that's what the comments were about)

19:08 schestowitz-TR; LinuxToday killed all past comments

19:08 schestowitz-TR; and it highly bloated, slow

19:08 schestowitz-TR; because the CMS came "from above"

19:08 schestowitz-TR; one sisze fits all from the parent company

19:08 schestowitz-TR; I don't even know who edits it anymore, Sean kerner likely did for a while

19:08 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure he still does

19:08 schestowitz-TR; those are our main two "competitor"

19:08 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to use that term

19:08 schestowitz-TR; as we all have the same goals and should help each others

19:08 schestowitz-TR; *other

19:08 schestowitz-TR; Slashdot Linux section is on average one new pick every 2 days

19:08 schestowitz-TR; usually to the same sites, which game /.

19:08 schestowitz-TR; betanews (trolls), phoronix (michael needs some extra boost), zdnet

19:08 schestowitz-TR; not much url diversity there, it's all games

19:09 schestowitz-TR; *gamed

19:09 schestowitz-TR; and lots of Linux-hostile stories, tooo

19:09 schestowitz-TR; for PR/Edstrom/MS Shaw and fellow Microsoft troll generals to storm

19:09 schestowitz-TR; and pollute

19:10 Techrights-sec2; :(

19:10 Techrights-sec2; ack

19:12 schestowitz-TR; hmmm lunduke veering off agaiojn in "Microsoft nostalgia" direction

19:12 schestowitz-TR; I don't fancy that

19:12 schestowitz-TR; gates romaticising... he never, even when defending rms, mentioned gates/mit

19:12 schestowitz-TR; and now some "olidies" from microsoft

19:12 schestowitz-TR; so I can skip the feed faste

19:15 Techrights-sec2; ack

19:16 schestowitz-TR; in another universe lunduke does an annual speech called Windows Sucks

19:16 schestowitz-TR; and talks abotu Bill's connections to Epstein

19:16 schestowitz-TR; instead of insinuating Germans who don't celebrate Jewish holidays are nazis

19:18 Techrights-sec2; :/

19:19 schestowitz-TR; I view him with suspicion

19:19 schestowitz-TR; there's a phenomenon where you do some pandering to attract the target crowd

19:19 schestowitz-TR; and then throw the bomb at them

19:19 schestowitz-TR; you cannot be efffective microsoft shill without that crowd

19:19 schestowitz-TR; apropos, alan shimel from 'security' buolevard is n promtoped a lot by LF these days

19:19 schestowitz-TR; that tells you a lot

19:19 Techrights-sec2; same here. there was an interval for a while when he looked like he was turning

19:19 Techrights-sec2; around

19:20 schestowitz-TR; not turnaround m

19:20 schestowitz-TR; TURNOVER

19:20 schestowitz-TR; he asks for money, he has long done this as a JOB

19:21 Techrights-sec2; either way he was starting to come clean on the M$ stuff

19:21 Techrights-sec2; but for a few years now he has gotten worse and worse, when he bothers to

19:21 Techrights-sec2; cover important topics at all

19:21 schestowitz-TR; he throws some straw man at important topics

19:21 schestowitz-TR; hand on, URL:

19:22 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/

http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/

19:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights

19:22 schestowitz-TR; (i don't think it's intentional btw, but it need not be)

19:23 Techrights-sec2; ack

19:26 schestowitz-TR; I think those tactics were wholly embraced in the federal/military segments

19:26 schestowitz-TR; where you can discredit groups with violent provocatuers, alien "enthusiats"

19:26 schestowitz-TR; and racists

19:26 schestowitz-TR; the dominion voting [sic] machine [sic] idiotcs did lots of this since jan 6th

19:26 schestowitz-TR; btw, i don't think thunberg is a good spokesperson

19:26 schestowitz-TR; for several reasons, but that's off topi

19:26 schestowitz-TR; for one thing, it makes climate science seem infantile and unhinged, angry

19:26 schestowitz-TR; *provocateurs

19:26 schestowitz-TR; *imposters

19:26 schestowitz-TR; controlled opposition of sorts

19:26 schestowitz-TR; I never spoke back to lunduke, he's a liability like "mark fink"

19:27 britney; alien "enthusiasts"? you mean like reptilians?

19:32 schestowitz-TR; he would not be a good or loyal friend irl (disployal)

19:32 schestowitz-TR; he used to attack rms, then acted like his friend

19:32 schestowitz-TR; what sort of bipolar person does this??

19:32 schestowitz-TR; I had a big argument over the telephone today

19:32 schestowitz-TR; verdict: I won't talk to that person for a month

19:32 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather do other thingas

19:32 schestowitz-TR; took me two hours to recover my focus

19:32 schestowitz-TR; and it's not health eitther

19:33 schestowitz-TR; life is too short to waste arguing

19:33 schestowitz-TR; if I can switch it off, so be it

19:33 Techrights-sec2; ak

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19:40 Techrights-sec2; ack

19:49 schestowitz-TR; i would have to add some extra packages

19:49 schestowitz-TR; biab


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9 PM, July 31

21:27 britney; i like shavit for a gemini server

21:28 britney; it has self hosted git, its written in go


10 PM, July 31

22:14 Techrights-sec2; ack

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11 PM, July 31

23:33 schestowitz-TR; sounds near

23:33 schestowitz-TR; *neat

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