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beginning of new day, December 30

00:34 schestowitz-TR; I found 3 links about NY

00:34 schestowitz-TR; added to TM to raise awareness

00:34 schestowitz-TR; not related directly to bsd and gnu/linux, but..

00:34 schestowitz-TR; .

00:35 techrightssec2; I'm sure the tie-in is strong, but it is hard to describe. Both come down

00:35 techrightssec2; to control and ownership.

00:38 schestowitz-TR; brb breakfast

00:38 techrightssec2;

00:38 techrightssec2; ack


1 AM, December 30

01:05 techrightssec2; One area of heavy overlap would be the first-sale doctrine:

01:05 techrightssec2; https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1062822/m2/1/high_res_d/White_Paper_17_USC_109_The_First_Sale_Doctrine-1-.pdf

↺ https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1062822/m2/1/high_res_d/White_Paper_17_USC_109_The_First_Sale_Doctrine-1-.pdf

01:05 techrightssec2; The GPL addresses it clearly but not by name in the various enumerated rights.

01:41 schestowitz-TR; 2.6ml requests in tm-new this month

01:41 schestowitz-TR; less than old, but old has many images and stuff

01:41 schestowitz-TR; going to post daily links in a moment


3 AM, December 30

03:04 schestowitz-TR; "The sad reality is that every major Tech Publication is directly funded by the very same companies that they cover. Publications writing about Microsoft are funded by ad dollars from Microsoft. Publications writing about Enterprise Linux companies are funded by ad dollars from Enterprise Linux Companies." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/help-the-lunduke-journal-speak-truth

↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/help-the-lunduke-journal-speak-truth

03:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | Help The Lunduke Journal "Speak Truth to (Tech) Power"

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6 AM, December 30

06:33 schestowitz; Re: OpenAI Captured by Microsoft

06:33 schestowitz; > https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw <https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw>

↺ https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw

↺ https://youtu.be/kC-o8WW3BRw>

06:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=kC-o8WW3BRw

↺ https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=kC-o8WW3BRw

06:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> inv.riverside.rocks | ChatGPT is more dangerous than you think - Invidious

06:33 schestowitz; >

06:33 schestowitz; > Thoughts?

06:33 schestowitz; >

06:33 schestowitz; > Happy Holidays my friend. Ill be back on my writing bullshit soon.

06:33 schestowitz; "OpenAI Captured by Microsoft" sounds like news from years ago. I recently saw that OpenCV too was getting partly captured.

06:33 schestowitz; Do you know many layoffs are planned or rumoured for next month?

06:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Layoffs#2022

http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Layoffs#2022

06:33 schestowitz; BTW, I quit my employer this month. See

06:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights

06:33 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

06:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sirius Open Source - Techrights

06:46 schestowitz-TR; OTA

06:46 schestowitz-TR; it looks like bankruptcy might be imminent

06:46 schestowitz-TR; unpaid bills to hosts, no office, address changes


8 AM, December 30

08:46 techrightssec2; Will Andy's series have two more parts? It seems he has left part 3 at a cliff

08:46 techrightssec2; hanger.

08:49 schestowitz-TR; lt me check

08:49 schestowitz-TR; *let

08:49 schestowitz-TR; the timestam says 24-12

08:49 schestowitz-TR; afetr i had asked him to split it he did

08:49 schestowitz-TR; i compared the snapshot I got 27th to now

08:49 schestowitz-TR; they are identical, not just the date stamp

08:49 schestowitz-TR; so tomorrow if final part

08:49 schestowitz-TR; *is

08:49 schestowitz-TR; I put a video of his lecture in irc last nigtt/today

08:49 schestowitz-TR; did some further digging for better images of his

08:49 schestowitz-TR; one was copyrighted, you see him 15 yeras ago (2007)

08:49 schestowitz-TR; no beard

08:49 schestowitz-TR; "all rights reserved"

08:49 techrightssec2; checking

08:49 techrightssec2; GAFAM also deterimines both the curriculum and teaching methods for more than

08:49 techrightssec2; only CS and ICT, seeing as all courses now are dependent on lab use.

08:54 schestowitz-TR; as you rightly note, A LOT, this imperils local culture, heritage, tradition, professional methods,

08:54 schestowitz-TR; across a spectrum of things

08:54 schestowitz-TR; those "Tech" giantss are a cultural threat greater than tiktok

08:54 schestowitz-TR; tiktok does not have that much impact on corporations, schools, gov.

08:55 schestowitz-TR; mostly pupils and one-time "useds"

08:55 schestowitz-TR; (like drugs; or social "drinking")

08:55 schestowitz-TR; you now have people speaking in foreign accents with nforeign dialect and slang

08:55 schestowitz-TR; dancing the dances of a distant nation

08:55 schestowitz-TR; and behaving towards people are seen on TV (or "social control media"... whhat does tiktok call those?

08:55 schestowitz-TR; "tiks"?)

08:55 schestowitz-TR; "|shorts"?

08:55 schestowitz-TR; so those companies program companies, schools, politicians

08:55 schestowitz-TR; and can cause behaviour and perceptions to adapt

08:55 schestowitz-TR; because those "apps" or "cloud things" in schools

08:55 schestowitz-TR; get to spend more time with people than people nearby

08:55 schestowitz-TR; and actively rob thopse other people access

08:55 schestowitz-TR; so the dining table has "phones"

08:55 schestowitz-TR; from 2 hours face-to-face (family) it's down to 20 minutes

08:55 schestowitz-TR; and the rest occupied with fake friends and "mr algorithm"

08:55 schestowitz-TR; one fucking piece of shit relative of rianne was literally wearing headphones inside the restaurant

08:55 schestowitz-TR; on the dining table (2017, IIRC)

08:57 techrightssec2; I would say that tiktok has an enormous, outsized influence on schools because

08:57 techrightssec2; it has captured one or two entire generations and removed them from the culture

08:57 techrightssec2; their geographical placement would have otherwised allowed / caused them to

08:57 techrightssec2; inherit.

08:57 techrightssec2; ADHD is already pervasive, some of it, in some people, is a learned trait.

08:57 techrightssec2; Whether it can be unlearned is of great concern to the survival of the nation.

08:57 techrightssec2; Not even 20 minutes since many are on their skinnerboxes throughout the meal

08:57 techrightssec2; either actively or it occupies their thoughts while in their pocket.

08:57 techrightssec2; while at the table.

08:57 techrightssec2; EFF calls that "algospeak" rather than making a nod to the established

08:57 techrightssec2; perjorative, "newspeak", coined by Orwell. That hurts by making the old body

08:57 techrightssec2; of literature about the problem less visible while also pretending that it

08:57 techrightssec2; is a new, unexplored problem instead of a dangerous, old problem which has

08:57 techrightssec2; worsened severely.

08:59 schestowitz-TR; this was covered in passing by andy

08:59 schestowitz-TR; how GAFAM (no, Microsoft mostly!) tries to "correct" what words he should use in his message

08:59 schestowitz-TR; next step is using HEY HI to "think" for him

08:59 schestowitz-TR; and "plagiarise" (write) for him

08:59 techrightssec2; Yes, that is one example.

08:59 techrightssec2; Think, maybe, but the bossing around is already here: "newspeak" / "algospeak"

08:59 techrightssec2; Youtube and Tiktok both do it to people.


9 AM, December 30

09:01 schestowitz-TR; you can say "Linux" in youtube titles

09:01 schestowitz-TR; but there will be consequences

09:01 schestowitz-TR; so better not!

09:01 schestowitz-TR; who was that prof who spoke of adapting behaviour based on punishment and cautioning?

09:01 schestowitz-TR; (twitter does lots of this)

09:01 schestowitz-TR; (not just the words, also the positions/stances you're permitted to a) have and b) express)

09:20 schestowitz; [06:33] <schestowitz> BTW, I quit my employer this month. See

09:20 schestowitz; [06:33] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source

09:20 schestowitz; > Congrats! Man I love being out of the tech space \U0001f923

09:21 schestowitz; You still know tech. You just get bossed less ;-)

09:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sirius Open Source - Techrights

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09:41 schestowitz-TR; biab

09:41 schestowitz-TR; back in about 40 mins

09:41 schestowitz-TR; workout

09:41 schestowitz-TR; weird sleeping times lately, but it works ok, it gets dark around 4pm anyway

09:42 techrightssec2; ack

09:42 techrightssec2; I would say that the censoring of positions, opinions, and stances is one of th3main activities and goals of soci

09:42 techrightssec2; al control media. There has also been a

09:42 techrightssec2; terrible distraction about that, trying to conflate free speech with illegal

09:42 techrightssec2; and or unpopular and or unethical positions and activities.


11 AM, December 30

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11:31 schestowitz-TR; Nowadays you get people who say stuff like "your job title is outdated" instead of focusing on skills and experience. That's the BUZZWORD/S generation, veneer instead of substance. MBAs and marketing liars dominating over the geeks (1990s). They also push hostile things into companies that harm themselves.

11:32 schestowitz-TR; in a nutshell, the company wanted to pretend to be hip and trendy and "mondern"

11:32 schestowitz-TR; wanting us to learn buzzwords and use crap

11:32 schestowitz-TR; becaue "novel" and "newer"

11:32 schestowitz-TR; and that only accelerated the demise

11:35 schestowitz-TR; After decades in the making it is already stable. Leave it alone. Stop trying to 'fix' (or replace) what's not broken, IBM, Intel, GAFAM https://www.phoronix.com/news/XServer-2022-Development-Pace

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/news/XServer-2022-Development-Pace

11:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-X11 Server Development Pace Hits A Two Decade Low - Phoronix

11:35 techrightssec2; appeal to novelty -- yet another fallacy used to promote crap

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I use many x tools

11:37 schestowitz-TR; wayland does NOT have feature paritya

11:37 schestowitz-TR; and it NOT compatible

11:37 schestowitz-TR; but they don't care about moving fast and breaking things

11:37 schestowitz-TR; they make more sales this way

11:37 schestowitz-TR; they even change branch names and break things

11:37 schestowitz-TR; because some fictional peopple said "master" offends them

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I think they just troll the community and project

11:37 schestowitz-TR; because of ICE etc

11:37 schestowitz-TR; projecting, provoking, splitting communities along lines of perceived tolerance

11:40 techrightssec2; Wayland can't even do remote forwarding of graphical applications. That

11:40 techrightssec2; made me lose interest in it. However, that lack of functionality will probably

11:40 techrightssec2; ensure that clowns everywhere push for it.

11:41 psydruid; Wayland doesn't even work on my laptop

11:41 schestowitz-TR; it cripples gnu/linux and more

11:41 schestowitz-TR; it removed something we've had and bragged about for over 2 decades

11:41 schestowitz-TR; and pushes crap like citrix and, as you note, clown

11:41 schestowitz-TR; reddit robertson like wayland

11:41 techrightssec2; It is crippled and will cripple.

11:41 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: buy a new one!!

11:41 schestowitz-TR; one with U/EFI too

11:41 psydruid; Lol

11:41 schestowitz-TR; stop being cheap!!

11:42 schestowitz-TR; BIOS is "legacy" now

11:42 psydruid; I was planning for this to be my last x86 laptop

11:42 techrightssec2; ack


noon, December 30

12:00 techrightssec2; x86 is up to half the problem there

12:01 schestowitz-TR; it can and should be undercut

12:01 schestowitz-TR; I see lots of riscv articles lately

12:01 schestowitz-TR; today i sub;ed to adsfruit over rss

12:04 psydruid; the problem with x86 is all the proprietary software that requires it and just doesn't move anywhere else, so people simply stick with it

12:20 techrightssec2; Should the link taxomony change energy to energy/transportation ?

12:21 schestowitz-TR; maybe the title can be expanded to fakecoins

12:21 schestowitz-TR; as some people get confused as to why it's there

12:39 techrightssec2; Fakecoins are a waste of energy. When there are fake coin articles there are

12:39 techrightssec2; usually also some there about what a waste of electricity they are.

12:44 techrightssec2; I hope few scripts break the day after tomorrow.


1 PM, December 30

13:05 schestowitz-TR; i did not know a omglinux site existed

13:05 schestowitz-TR; worth adding via rss?

13:05 schestowitz-TR; is that the shit /. linked to, shilling wsl via some amazon guy?

13:22 techrightssec2; not sure

13:22 techrightssec2; checking

13:22 techrightssec2; I haven't looked at /. for years though, which link ?

13:22 techrightssec2; The first two pages of aricles look ok at OMGLinux, the third page does mentino

13:22 techrightssec2; ^mention

13:22 techrightssec2; one m$ program but the topic there is the GNU/Linux version

13:59 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Dumb, harmful, and misleading clickbait from a Valve shill https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UtA0j4ePAo4

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UtA0j4ePAo4

13:59 schestowitz-TR; [TechrightsSocial] yewtu.be | Microsoft Steam Deck. *Ominous musical sting* - Invidious

13:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Microsoft Steam Deck. *Ominous musical sting* - Invidious


3 PM, December 30

15:01 schestowitz-TR; "My boss lied all of the time. Despite the fact that it was relatively easy to know they were lying, they didn't care. If you called them out on it, they'd either ignore that, change the subject or somehow try to turn it back around on you." https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/12/pop-goes-the-gaslighting-weasel

↺ https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/12/pop-goes-the-gaslighting-weasel

15:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jaylittle.com | Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Pop Goes the Gaslighting Weasel

15:23 schestowitz-TR; not only timely but very relevant

15:30 schestowitz-TR; lobbying https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/29/after-dumb-lobbying-delays-and-ample-watering-down-ny-passes-landmark-right-to-repair-bill/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/29/after-dumb-lobbying-delays-and-ample-watering-down-ny-passes-landmark-right-to-repair-bill/

15:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-After Dumb Lobbying Delays And Ample Watering Down, NY Passes Landmark Right To Repair Bill | Techdirt

15:31 techrightssec2; Unfortunately it is not a landmark bill but and empty shell.

15:33 schestowitz-TR; life is full of "I wish I had realized that earlier" moment

15:33 schestowitz-TR; it's a very fundamental part of life

15:33 schestowitz-TR; otherwise, people would never date, just marry

15:33 schestowitz-TR; and never change jobs etc.

15:35 schestowitz-TR; ...

15:35 schestowitz-TR; everything other than external mouse was always not acceptable

15:35 schestowitz-TR; I rejected all the other options

15:35 schestowitz-TR; they are just something to be used when a surface is missing, e.g. travel

15:39 schestowitz-TR; on some laptops, like all the 4 in front of me right now, there's about 6-7cm in which you can move

15:39 schestowitz-TR; the small external mice with very high dpi setting

15:39 schestowitz-TR; and then use that as a surface

15:40 schestowitz-TR; though small mice and high dpi have their own limitations, esp. when you need precision

15:40 schestowitz-TR; a scandinavian sotre in bury, greater manchester has a whole range of laptop "bridges"

15:40 schestowitz-TR; they are cheap and go above the lap or table or sofa or bed

15:40 schestowitz-TR; they can also help hold a drink/food

15:40 techrightssec2; I think I've seen photos of those

15:42 schestowitz-TR; beofre I knew they existed or what they were called I improvised by turning shelves into surfaces and putting the

15:42 schestowitz-TR; m on the lap

15:42 schestowitz-TR; I even did this years ago

15:42 schestowitz-TR; many furniture types havs detachable levels

15:42 schestowitz-TR; those lack "feet" through

15:42 schestowitz-TR; one

15:42 schestowitz-TR; option is, lay on armrest

15:42 schestowitz-TR; argos here sells those too, we found them no sooner than 2020

15:43 schestowitz-TR; thew "proper" one

15:43 schestowitz-TR; birthday gift

15:44 schestowitz-TR; "I do not and have never used a smartphone." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/30/unmediated-community-ten-years-of-the-invisible-army/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/30/unmediated-community-ten-years-of-the-invisible-army/

15:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Unmediated Community Ten Years of The Invisible Army - CounterPunch.org

15:46 techrightssec2; ack

15:51 schestowitz-TR; rianne spoke to her cousin today in mumble

15:51 schestowitz-TR; it sounds like prices of flights more then doubled

15:51 schestowitz-TR; never mind safety, inconvenience etc.

15:51 schestowitz-TR; I told her

15:51 schestowitz-TR; good

15:51 schestowitz-TR; the end of an era

15:51 schestowitz-TR; flights SHOULD be expensive like they used to be

15:52 techrightssec2; Flights are terrible for humanity, especially the way Little Bush set the

15:52 techrightssec2; airports up to mistreat people. Nowadays everyone is a prisoner suspected

15:52 techrightssec2; of additional crimes rather than pre-Bush where they were valued customers

15:52 techrightssec2; (for various values).

15:52 techrightssec2; Flights should be *way* more expensive if the fossile carbon emissions are

15:52 techrightssec2; taken into account. But then those are mostly "business-class" emissions

15:52 techrightssec2; though all to much are also vacationers.

15:54 techrightssec2; https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-the-growth-in-greenhouse-gas-emissions-from-commercial-aviation

↺ https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fact-sheet-the-growth-in-greenhouse-gas-emissions-from-commercial-aviation

15:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eesi.org | Issue Brief | The Growth in Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Commercial Aviation (2019, revised 2022) | White Papers | EESI

15:56 schestowitz-TR; my last time was berlin

15:56 schestowitz-TR; with no imminent plan, seeing what happens in uk and ireland with death tolls

15:56 schestowitz-TR; regardless of how they "classify" those deaths

15:56 schestowitz-TR; the benefits of good hygiene extend well beyond being covid-free

15:56 schestowitz-TR; washing food, shut lids, clean a lot, mask when out

15:57 techrightssec2; the contrails also have affected the weather. The "old" farmers had observed

15:57 techrightssec2; that, but they are long dead and their observations dismissed at the time.

15:57 techrightssec2; However, "post-911" there have been several reductions in air traffic and

15:57 techrightssec2; the effect of the lack of contrails observed and confirmed.

15:57 schestowitz-TR; the straw man here is "chemtrails"

15:57 schestowitz-TR; seems everything has a straw man now

15:57 schestowitz-TR; g5, covid etc.

15:59 techrightssec2; Yes, "chemtrails" probably is even traceable back to the fossil industry, or

15:59 techrightssec2; at least if that were found I would not be surprised in the least. The other

15:59 techrightssec2; is balthering about carbon sinks and conflating biocarbon cycles with

15:59 techrightssec2; fossil fuel carbon cycles. The two are unrelated but the fossile fuel industry

15:59 techrightssec2; has confused the politicians to the point that they are yammering about

15:59 techrightssec2; the wrong topics and distracting from the *ongoing* fossil carbon emissions


4 PM, December 30

16:01 schestowitz-TR; there is a logical fallacy pattern here

16:01 schestowitz-TR; sex trafficking --> "not new" --> "some cultures" -> "like stealing a bagel"

16:01 schestowitz-TR; there is industrial revolution pollution -> "sun cycles" -> "volcanos" -> there was ice age...

16:01 schestowitz-TR; trivialising the wrong humans do by making it sound inherent, natural, unavoidable

16:03 schestowitz-TR; krebs on sec turns 13th

16:03 schestowitz-TR; congrats on independence, BUT

16:03 schestowitz-TR; why so few articles?

16:03 schestowitz-TR; iirc, he did a lot more

16:03 schestowitz-TR; and over time less and less

16:03 schestowitz-TR; even if in-deapth

16:03 schestowitz-TR; *turns 13, on the 29th

16:16 techrightssec2; Perhaps he has been spending more time investigating. His cycle used to include

16:16 techrightssec2; frequent quiet intervals followed by big news.

16:16 techrightssec2; So maybe all the easy exposs have been used up already and the clumsier

16:16 techrightssec2; criminals already culled, aside from those in Redmond.


6 PM, December 30

18:10 schestowitz-TR; Police has already used drones, robots, and suicide bombs against people in the USA. The media seems to be missing this or leaving it out intentionally. Dorner was one example, but in later examples the police deployed self-exploding robots or bomb delivery robotics. "Stopping" this from "commencing" misses the point that it started years ago. EFF asleep at the wheel.

18:30 schestowitz-TR; adding to automated feeds?

18:59 techrightssec2; Apropos Windows TCO : https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/12/arresting-it-administrators.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/12/arresting-it-administrators.html

18:59 techrightssec2; They need to go after the managers who signed off on m$ deployments.

18:59 techrightssec2; not just the administrators, though they are guilty too

18:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Arresting IT Administrators - Schneier on Security


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