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9 AM, August 30

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; this past month "Microsoft" barely shows up in Linux news

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; thory: they dismantled some units reponsible for it, e.g. WSL and PR spam

09:09 Techrights-sec; quite likely though this is the time of the year during which they regroup

09:09 Techrights-sec; historically (if I understand correctly) they call in their minions to a

09:09 Techrights-sec; conference to ensure they are all on message for the coming academic year

09:09 Techrights-sec; if they all return to making noise next week, don't be surprised if

09:09 Techrights-sec; 1) they are all on the same talking points, but 2) those talking points have

09:09 Techrights-sec; change a little since the summer;

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; an hour ago in TM I put the video of Jay (leanrnlinuxtv) regarding "year of the desktop"

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; it's not a bad video, worth the time tbh

09:11 schestowitz-TR2; I tend to playback invidious at 1.5x or 2x the speed, depending on the content

09:11 Techrights-sec; Did he acknowledge the OEM monopoly that M$ abuses?

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; no, this is my main issue with it

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; no mention of secure boot

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; bribes OEM lockout

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; and other crimes

09:17 Techrights-sec; Then without acknowledgment of the anti-competitive abuses, specifically

09:17 Techrights-sec; stuff like restricted boot and the OEM monopoly, there is really no point

09:17 Techrights-sec; and in some ways is kind of blaming the victim:

09:17 Techrights-sec; "if only vendors saw the market potential ..."

09:17 Techrights-sec; "if only distros were easier to use ..."

09:17 Techrights-sec; "if only there were fewer distros ..."

09:17 Techrights-sec; and so on with the FUD they are reinforcing. Remember that m$ successfully

09:17 Techrights-sec; fought against and got laws blocking whitebox systems.

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; hence I thought it might be worth doing a rebuttal to

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; what do you think?

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; video rebuttal?

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; you can then see it with my response

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; it would be fair use

09:22 Techrights-sec; Perhaps more like filling in the gaps than an actual rebuttal. DT often makes

09:22 Techrights-sec; the same mistakes. Though I can't guess the reason for DT's mistakes, it

09:22 Techrights-sec; can't be naivety because he has been around the block enough times to know

09:22 Techrights-sec; how M$ operates. If he is trying to project his own values onto the crowd

09:22 Techrights-sec; or mob known as M$, then that is a major error in judgement. Without having

09:22 Techrights-sec; seen Jay's video(s), I may be off, but say again that projecting ones own values

09:22 Techrights-sec; is a common error. There may be other reason for missing or pretending not

09:22 Techrights-sec; to see the ongoing anti-competitive behaviors.

09:22 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, OTA

09:24 Techrights-sec; np


10 AM, August 30

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10:48 schestowitz-TR2; done, I realise he does indeed repeat thew same (wrong) point again and again like 10 mins

10:48 schestowitz-TR2; he could make it more concuise, but so could I (50 mins)

10:48 schestowitz-TR2; but I didn't script it

10:48 schestowitz-TR2; I will now look into IRS files of LF for more things

10:48 schestowitz-TR2; processing video, draft in place (not for LF, not yet)


11 AM, August 30

11:07 Techrights-sec; ack

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; draft re lf

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; took a while

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; but worth it

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; done, published

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; there's lots more to be shown some other day

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; same for github, we keep it on reserve


noon, August 30

12:07 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in Years https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/30/excess-deaths-in-the-uk/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/30/excess-deaths-in-the-uk/

12:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in the UK This Summer Worst in Years

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12:36 Techrights-sec; ack

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; productive day today

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; the exam is tomorrow, then there will be another one for her ("Life in the UK"... she's scoring a lot higher than needed in the mock exams)

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; tomorrow is oral, so can induce some stress/anxiety, unlike the multiple-choice exam

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; I did my last shift today, could use more topics tbh

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; or stuff to do on the sites, I've begun dealing a bit with the utf-8 issue, using a bunch of sed lines... I'll copy these over to rianne's scripts when

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; I'm done, to greatly reduce the chance of that happening

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; in rss I noticed such issues can creep in too

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; maybe some perl libraries handle unicode differently, that's my guess anyway

12:40 Techrights-sec; for topics, there are those who apparently knowingly omit mentioning M$ ongoing

12:40 Techrights-sec; anti-competitive maneuvers, for whatever reason. That shifts the blame to the

12:40 Techrights-sec; victims and makes them at least passively complicit in the crimes.

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; i put a quick first draft about this

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; video is 50 mins, so will take longer

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; I could add links, but said in the video they would be rather old

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; so it's more important to explain, with or within a lot of rerefences

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; Derak Tayloer is mentioned too

12:41 schestowitz-TR2; as you had brough Derek taylor up

12:49 Techrights-sec; He mostly does good work but goes out of his way to turn a blind eye to the

12:49 Techrights-sec; OEM problems and joins those incorrectly placing the blame on the distros.


1 PM, August 30

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2 PM, August 30

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; I am not sure if TM server side manages to catch camelcase for the cites domain and inject that into title=""

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; so far I don't think I saw that happen except when I added thse manually at my end

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; just sayin'

14:47 schestowitz-TR2; you did post an example with redhat.com but I don't think I have saw that working

14:51 Techrights-sec; checking

14:51 Techrights-sec; It works, for the sites that are registered, and only in new posts, not

14:51 Techrights-sec; retroactively. There'd have to be a script to do the retroactive editing

14:51 Techrights-sec; if the old posts are to be modified.

14:51 Techrights-sec; It's a labor intensive work flow to keep the file up to date.

14:51 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure it is viable in the long run.

14:55 schestowitz__[TR]; <p class="dropcap-first">For a systems administrator, it seems like every project brings new complexity, more servers, and more sprawl to manage. I will assume that your messes are a lot like mine: On one server, you're running CentOS Linux 7 from a project several years ago. Over here, you have a handful of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 9 servers from a recent project. Over there, you have an Oracle RAC database running on Oracle Linux

14:55 schestowitz__[TR]; 8.

14:55 schestowitz__[TR]; <a class="readon" title="" href="https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-update-convert2rhel-leapp">Read on</a>

↺ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-update-convert2rhel-leapp">Read

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.redhat.com | 2 tools to manage infrastructure sprawl with Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Enable Sysadmin

14:55 schestowitz__[TR]; Also Red Hat: <a href="https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/edge-computing-considerations">Edge computing: 4 considerations for success</a>

↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/edge-computing-considerations">Edge

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | Edge computing: 4 considerations for success | The Enterprisers Project

14:55 schestowitz__[TR]; <a href="https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/30/kubernetes-101-developers-names-ports-yaml-files-and-more">Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more</a>

↺ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/30/kubernetes-101-developers-names-ports-yaml-files-and-more">Kubernetes

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-developers.redhat.com | Kubernetes 101 for developers: Names, ports, YAML files, and more | Red Hat Developer

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; is

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; <a class="readon" title=""

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; the correct form?

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is posting like this too and it never picks up the domain when she does

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; see the outcome in the site (latest page)


3 PM, August 30

15:11 Techrights-sec; checking

15:11 schestowitz-TR2; I've just attempted update ... .pl with -d the camelcase test

15:11 schestowitz-TR2; but I think the syntax as I used it did not work

15:11 schestowitz-TR2; the shell wrapper does not support -d

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15:28 Techrights-sec; checking

15:28 Techrights-sec; the shell wrapper does not do deletions

15:28 Techrights-sec; I see the posts now, checking further

15:28 Techrights-sec; I think I see the problem.

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; thanks for looking into it

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; from my ewnd, I'll try to weed out those "&#" symbols

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; marius never posts these symbols

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes, not always, the culprit is how I use curl and perl to fetch title

15:51 Techrights-sec; Thanks for spotting that.

15:51 Techrights-sec; Additions and updates should work now.

15:51 Techrights-sec; But a script is needed to retroactively modify unannotated ReadOn link.

15:51 Techrights-sec; ack

15:52 schestowitz-TR2; the old ones don't matter much

15:52 schestowitz-TR2; but going forward for years it is nice to have it build in, yielding tens of thousands auto-completitions


4 PM, August 30

16:07 Techrights-sec; The key is to use the clas="readon" because that is the marker for the script.

16:07 Techrights-sec; Is anyone working on the db at the moment?

16:07 Techrights-sec; I can back it up and try and update, if it is quiet.

16:09 schestowitz-TR2; now is a good time to back it up

16:09 schestowitz-TR2; my rss reader is empty, I've just applied the fixes to rianne's scripts too and tested that upstairs

16:09 schestowitz-TR2; I also made a copy of the command you gave yesterday for backups

16:09 schestowitz-TR2; I won't post anything in the next 30 mins

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; btw, i saw the conteroversial dancing video an hour ago

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; I was expecteing a lot worse

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; so basically it seems to be like lazy guys and girls are a little jealous because she uis younger, looks better, and rose to power quickly

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; she did nothing illegal

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; and having a good-looking PM is no national disgrace

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; ffs... this video was showing tweets and tweets and tweets

16:14 schestowitz-TR2; like this is what "the media" now boils down to

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16:58 Techrights-sec; another turning point to harp on is when LF got rid of community representation

16:58 Techrights-sec; ack

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; draft, short

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; 2016 (iirc)

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; maybe i'll do another part about that

16:58 schestowitz-TR2; trying to go through the irs forms serially


5 PM, August 30

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Where LF used to be but left http://www.onelettermandrive.com/pdf/ldac_availability_6_13.pdf

↺ http://www.onelettermandrive.com/pdf/ldac_availability_6_13.pdf

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; And LF was in unit D: http://www.onelettermandrive.com/campus_plan.html# www.onelettermandrive.com/cp/building_d.html

↺ http://www.onelettermandrive.com/campus_plan.html#

17:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts Center

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.onelettermandrive.com | Letterman Digital Arts Center

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Linux development has long been based in Portland, but Jim Zemlin and Microsoft Sheela prefer to blow away $5,000,000+ a year (NOT their own money) on some glorified estate at the banks of Golden Gate Bridge

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; draft

17:18 schestowitz-TR2; this will abuse you

17:18 Techrights-sec; ack

17:20 schestowitz-TR2; adding transcript

17:24 schestowitz-TR2; adding transcript

17:24 schestowitz-TR2; he's a bit like TheLiar in our company

17:24 schestowitz-TR2; funnily enough, Sheela Microsoft looks a lot like SareenGas

17:24 schestowitz-TR2; both of the same country of origin

17:25 schestowitz-TR2; Sareen liked to pretent she was from KSA

17:25 schestowitz-TR2; to elevate her status

17:25 Techrights-sec; ack

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; hoyek from container fame (docker) was ousted from his own company

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; familira story these days

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; Jobs

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; RMS (temporarily)

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; LT (same)

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; EFF (John)

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; the capital givers call the shots

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; and those whom the capital givers hold by the strings

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; other than our CEO (relatively OK; technical too) I'm the longest serving employee

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; I doubt I can find a way out by year's end

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; they're not progressing at all

17:29 Techrights-sec; RMS seems retired at this point

17:29 Techrights-sec; ack

17:29 schestowitz-TR2; just stalling, but at least I'm paid for my time and today I opened my mouth again

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; rms is prof emeritus

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; still allowed the visit the campus sometimes

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; give a special one-off lecture

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; then go bakc home to die

17:30 Techrights-sec; hmm. they should be working on using his guidance to future-proof the movement

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17:36 Techrights-sec; the way 'open source' is being abused in place of Software Freedom, the

17:36 Techrights-sec; resources are in effect being strip mined and not cultivated. but the monthly

17:36 Techrights-sec; or quarterly result crowd doesn't look that far ahead. they can't care if

17:36 Techrights-sec; there's little to nothing in the pipeline compared to decades past if they

17:36 Techrights-sec; only look ahead a few weeks at a time.

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; I don't think it's about money

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; they need to motivate enough volunteers to join hands a la Debian

17:42 Techrights-sec; ack

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; it does matter that osi perishes too

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; a lot can be accomplished on shoestring budget

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; I think gnu got lots done (thousands of 'workers') in the 1980s and 90s

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; but didn't see that first-hand

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; osi lost almost all the "members"

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; not enough fools to 'volunteers' or 'donate' to a Micrtosoft front group/outpost

17:44 Techrights-sec; yes

17:44 Techrights-sec; popular computer magazines at the time discussed not only the tools, which

17:44 Techrights-sec; isn't even done any more, but also the reasons for the tools, up to and

17:44 Techrights-sec; including discussions of the GNU Manifesto -- in multiple magazines

17:44 Techrights-sec; of the era

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17:48 schestowitz-TR2; those would not succeed today unless that fit in a "tweet"

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; with some emoji about a dancing 'celeb' in an infinite scroll UI

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; I think today's interaction tools lack proper reading, saving, and writing capabilities

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; they encourage shallow shit in high quantities

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; "don't think before you post"

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; calling a person drunk just because the person dances

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; any press office would obstruct such foolish utterances

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; and contribute to better discourse, cohesioin

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; the vast majority if the anti-RMS campaign went on in "social" control media

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; though the signing was managd by Microsoft TypeScript in ShitHub

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; by Elana Hashpuppy

17:48 schestowitz-TR2; (back then Azure @ ICBM)

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17:50 schestowitz-TR2; Elana Hamasman

17:50 schestowitz-TR2; lol

17:51 Techrights-sec; Many article mention "cloud" and those that mention M$ Azure mention as an aside

17:51 Techrights-sec; that they don't say how much, if any, money they make on it.

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; or what share

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; this was mentioned in irc about 2 hours ago


6 PM, August 30

18:05 Techrights-sec; checking

18:05 Techrights-sec; only mentioned there superficially

18:05 schestowitz-TR2; curious I cannot find any real data

18:05 schestowitz-TR2; in the past there was

18:05 schestowitz-TR2; a) journalism (with real budget)

18:05 schestowitz-TR2; b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net traffic

18:11 Techrights-sec; old, rerun: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/

↺ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/

18:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pewresearch.org | U.S. newsroom employment has fallen 26% since 2008 | Pew Research Center

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; curious I cannot find any real data

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; in the past there was

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; a) journalism (with real budget)

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; b) 'analysts' who study this, like sandvine for net traffic

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; many of the remaning get rented

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; bill, jeff bezos, etc.

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; but don't worry, we still have billions of "tweets" out there and people who can toss them in a basket to call it "journalism", e.g. about Marin, Marine Le Pen,

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; and Cheeto Nazi

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; like with RMS< they've called corbyn everything in the black book

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; and twitter deems "you're next" (to be assassinated) to be OK while bagging KSA regime $

18:15 Techrights-sec; They hammered on Corbyn so long that he started to go along with what they

18:15 Techrights-sec; were setting him up for. He's over.

18:15 Techrights-sec; Long ago now.

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18:18 schestowitz-TR2; [...]

18:18 schestowitz-TR2; I herad something to that effect wrt libya

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; but cannot verify for myself

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; the source is a cranky ol friend

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; btw, corbyn was "assigned" to Integrite Initatyive (friends of Bill's Guardian)

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; which incidentally also got assigned to 'kill' Assange

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; around the same time CIA plotted to kill him and discussed optiond

18:19 schestowitz-TR2; *options

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18:25 schestowitz-TR2; ---

18:25 schestowitz-TR2; ftr: "bashing" someone for running a scammy org = legti criticism

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; not "harassment"

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; bashing a man who stares at people due to mental condition = low blow

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; saying ytoung lady cannot dance with friends = sexism/slut-shaming

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; if bojo did the same with his belly hanging, they'd say it's "clown" and "hoi polloi"

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; I foresee attempts to spin LF and EPO criticism as "abuse"

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; like OSI (just mentioned it in IRC btw) uses "homophobia"

18:28 Techrights-sec; ack

18:32 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> FACEPALM!!! " The affected product root credentials are hard-coded and not changed automatically when first commissioned, which may allow an attacker with SSH access to the device to gain full control." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-242-06

↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-242-06

18:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Honeywell ControlEdge | CISA

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9 PM, August 30

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21:52 Techrights-sec; ack

21:52 Techrights-sec; Note that there is a general whisper campagin among the microsofters against

21:52 Techrights-sec; SSH itself. It, along with IMAPS, has been targeted for removal from the net.

21:52 Techrights-sec; I can guess at the reason. SSH allows generic access, which helps keep

21:52 Techrights-sec; servers and other systems as interchangeable commodities. If peope can only

21:52 Techrights-sec; or learn to only access the systems via proprietary interfaces, then the systems

21:52 Techrights-sec; are effectively no longer commodities.


10 PM, August 30

22:03 schestowitz-TR2; I think the new modules that makes the TM RSS feed is having a hard time with "smart" quotes or unicode

22:03 schestowitz-TR2; look at the source of the RSS feed near the word "Unofficial" for instance (after that word)

22:04 psydruid; I've experienced this myself recently with Microsoft mail using some kind of OAuth that doesn't work with Thunderbird anymore

22:05 psydruid; These kinds of substandard "solutions" must be rejected

22:05 psydruid; But when even universities succumb to this nonsense the plot is lost

22:06 psydruid; And this country loves Microsoft a lot, my university was/is one of the few holdouts

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22:51 schestowitz-TR2; citrix ;-)

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11 PM, August 30

23:05 schestowitz-TR2; Weaning off social media and the over-capitalised Big Internet life gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1661838260

↺ gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1661838260

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