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1 AM, April 30

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7 AM, April 30

07:31 schestowitz-TR; can you see "I have just passed 2 emails to you

07:31 schestowitz-TR; " onwards?

07:31 Techrights-sec; there is no scroll history, so what was the move which they have made which

07:31 Techrights-sec; has been too much?

07:31 Techrights-sec; If they lied then it is time to leave post haste

07:31 Techrights-sec; lying to employees, as wrong as it is, is hard to prosecute;

07:31 Techrights-sec; however lying to clients might put them into legal difficulties;

07:31 Techrights-sec; opensource.com seems to have a defective RSS feed, served as text/html

07:31 Techrights-sec; similar for devlopers.redhat.com

07:31 Techrights-sec; furthermore redhat.com is blocked by javascript. skipping rh


8 AM, April 30

08:04 Techrights-sec; ok

08:04 Techrights-sec; "Nobody else is reporting issues." blaming the reporting parties, the

08:04 Techrights-sec; others are probably just keeping their heads down

08:04 Techrights-sec; They'll often lie about whether others have the same problem or not.

08:04 Techrights-sec; It is *very* common among microsofters to assert that only *you* have expirienced the brokenness of their software.

08:04 Techrights-sec; Howver once you talk with others you'll

08:04 Techrights-sec; find that the others were fed the same lie

08:04 Techrights-sec; ok

08:04 schestowitz-TR; can you see "I have just passed 2 emails to you

08:04 schestowitz-TR; " onwards?

08:04 schestowitz-TR; I ask cause I'm not sure how tall a buffer you have

08:04 schestowitz-TR; it was disproved at 1am when a collague expressed support (James)

08:05 schestowitz-TR; ccould you see the "I have just passed 2 emails to you" part?

08:05 schestowitz-TR; no further context exist in text

08:05 schestowitz-TR; can you see the scrollback in full?

08:09 schestowitz-TR; I am only asking so as to ensure I did not write too much when you were afk

08:11 Techrights-sec; ok

08:11 Techrights-sec; no

08:11 Techrights-sec; the scroll back is not available in this program and the screen shows only 25 lines

08:11 Techrights-sec; ack

08:11 Techrights-sec; attention wanders and if the window is up, there is no audible warning like iftmux focus is elsewhere

08:20 Techrights-sec; 2) both the leaving and the new income source are important

08:20 Techrights-sec; I'd say time is of the essence, oince they have gotten blatant about lying

08:20 schestowitz-TR; Assuming you could see it all:

08:20 schestowitz-TR; 1) rh I can cover manually, I usually nitpick on what they say this year anyway

08:20 schestowitz-TR; 2) rianne and I have mostly decided to leave, but not formally until we have a new income source

08:22 schestowitz-TR; I do not intend to look for a job as there are not many (decent) ones left

08:22 schestowitz-TR; so it would be pointless

08:22 schestowitz-TR; however, to start something when the economy is like this... not that great, either

08:22 schestowitz-TR; but I think that the goal of leaving is final(ised)

08:23 Techrights-sec; ack

08:23 Techrights-sec; do TR and TM have patreon accounts?

08:27 schestowitz-TR; seeing the trajectory of other Linux sites, this would not work

08:27 schestowitz-TR; the sellouts (fossforce, phoronix etc.) destroy years of credibility

08:27 schestowitz-TR; as for lwn, they lost many subscribers and "rib" (Rebecca Sobol) left after almost 20 years. "ris"

08:27 Techrights-sec; ack

08:27 Techrights-sec; I still think that patreon is a convenient supplement

08:27 Techrights-sec; also donations via stripe

08:28 schestowitz-TR; you optimistically assume some people would pay

08:28 schestowitz-TR; I am sceptical of that and years ago I spoke to Liam Dawe who said you must give some "Extras"

08:29 schestowitz-TR; for people to pay, otherwise in his experience people would not bother

08:32 Techrights-sec; trends change

08:38 schestowitz-TR; yes, more people have less money to sapre now

08:38 schestowitz-TR; *spare

08:38 Techrights-sec; for the most part, yes, but they also are more empathetic in that area too as

08:38 Techrights-sec; a result

08:58 schestowitz-TR; draft

08:58 schestowitz-TR; can you find a link so I can quote you and add it?

08:58 schestowitz-TR; This would help workers

08:58 Techrights-sec; checking

08:58 Techrights-sec; there was an in-depth article sometime in the last year about how

08:58 Techrights-sec; outsourcing kills an organization by removing skilled, experienced peers from

08:58 Techrights-sec; the pool of skilled, experienced people and thus causing the ones who remain

08:58 Techrights-sec; to feel increasingly out of place and isolated until they finally leave as well

08:58 Techrights-sec; don't quot me, it's just blather but I'll try to find the link


9 AM, April 30

09:06 Techrights-sec; several:

09:06 Techrights-sec; https://blog.dshr.org/2020/04/outsourcing-reduces-productivity.html

↺ https://blog.dshr.org/2020/04/outsourcing-reduces-productivity.html

09:06 Techrights-sec; and this one is not quite the analysis I was looking for:

09:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: Outsourcing Reduces Productivity

09:06 Techrights-sec; https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9anhour-engineers

↺ https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9anhour-engineers

09:06 Techrights-sec; but the debacle there was caused by the braindrain that outsourcing causes

09:06 Techrights-sec; basically by outsourcing Boeing had turned itself from a leader to a backwater

09:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers | IndustryWeek

09:06 Techrights-sec; like many universities have been doing in recent decades as well

09:08 schestowitz-TR; I am goint to reuse parts of that text and rewrite

09:08 schestowitz-TR; a lot of your insights, like financialisation

09:08 schestowitz-TR; are above my head

09:08 schestowitz-TR; but they help point people in areas they did not explore before

09:08 schestowitz-TR; rianne is in shift now

09:08 schestowitz-TR; we still try to brainstorm the "exit"

09:08 schestowitz-TR; there is no pressure from anyone to rush

09:08 Techrights-sec; can't find the analysis I was thinking of

09:18 schestowitz-TR; that's OK

09:18 schestowitz-TR; I've just had another long chat about the company situation

09:18 schestowitz-TR; we feel better knowing that the daring decision was made

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and we've not left with nothing for the time being

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09:23 Techrights-sec; ack

09:23 Techrights-sec; still slogging through the feed script update, lots of commits so far, will

09:23 Techrights-sec; get them into Git later once done with the list

09:23 schestowitz-TR; I hardly managed to write articles in recent days

09:24 schestowitz-TR; work and arguing with people and other things

09:24 schestowitz-TR; so we don't meet the full potential if I stay there

09:24 schestowitz-TR; I will speak to my parents soon, need to hear what they think (I value their advice only as parents

09:24 schestowitz-TR; but they are not well educated and cannot give good advice on such issues)

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09:34 schestowitz-TR; You should see that article about Campinos ttamtrum

09:34 schestowitz-TR; "best of europe???"

09:34 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/campinos-f-bombs/ ??

http://techrights.org/2022/04/30/campinos-f-bombs/

09:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | What the F Did Antnio Campinos Just Say??? | Techrights

09:37 schestowitz-TR; yes

09:37 schestowitz-TR; I might meet a friend later today to discuss the work situation

09:37 schestowitz-TR; he hss just phoned me

09:37 schestowitz-TR; turns out that, like my other good friend, his knees swelled up 2 months after the shots

09:37 schestowitz-TR; he is an athelete

09:37 schestowitz-TR; world #1 in some areas (200m and 400m for over 45)

09:37 schestowitz-TR; and he regrets taking the shots, sitll

09:40 schestowitz; <li>

09:40 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://boilingsteam.com/2400-games-on-the-steam-deck-just-days-after-the-2300-games-milestone/">2400 Games On The Steam Deck, Just Days After The 2300 Games Milestone</a></h5>

↺ https://boilingsteam.com/2400-games-on-the-steam-deck-just-days-after-the-2300-games-milestone/">2400

09:40 schestowitz; <blockquote>

09:40 schestowitz; <p>Slower pace of validation? Looks like Valve is trying to prove us wrong as they have just added close to 100 games in a matter of days after the 2300 games milestone on the Steam Deck. There are now more than 2400 games (2406 at the time of writing) working on the Steam Deck in two categories as usual:</p>

09:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boilingsteam.com | 2400 Games On The Steam Deck, Just Days after the 2300 Games Milestone - Boiling Steam

09:40 schestowitz; <p>Steam Deck Verified: 1261 titles</p>

09:40 schestowitz; <p>Steam Deck Playable: 1145 titles</p>

09:40 schestowitz; </blockquote>

09:40 schestowitz; </li>

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09:43 schestowitz; <li>

09:43 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/28/arduino-controlled-cnc-engraver-uses-solar-power/">Arduino-controlled CNC engraver uses solar power</a></h5>

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/28/arduino-controlled-cnc-engraver-uses-solar-power/">Arduino-controlled

09:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino-controlled CNC engraver uses solar power | Arduino Blog

09:43 schestowitz; <blockquote>

09:43 schestowitz; <p>This machine doesnt use energy from the sun to run the gantry motors or even the Arduino Uno board. Instead, it uses the sun and a glass lens in place of a conventional laser. Laser engravers are expensive because of the laser tubes, optics, and power supply. By replacing all of those with the sun and cheap lens, Cranktown City was able to engrave wood by burning it while saving a lot of money. He

09:43 schestowitz; just needed a way to harness the suns energy and direct it with moderate precision.</p>

09:43 schestowitz; </blockquote>

09:43 schestowitz; </li>

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09:58 Techrights-sec; I think many ofthe XPaths are more precise now without being more brittle than

09:58 Techrights-sec; they absolutely have to be


10 AM, April 30

10:00 schestowitz-TR; a lot of these feeds that I've not sent are howto sites

10:00 schestowitz-TR; those are of value, but the text extracted from their body is not crucial

10:00 schestowitz-TR; howtos are important, but they are not "news"

10:33 Techrights-sec; ok should they not be in the daily.links file?

10:33 schestowitz-TR; separate file would make sense, I think, as it helps sorting

10:38 Techrights-sec; ok a separate file will be added

10:54 Techrights-sec; pushed

10:54 Techrights-sec; the additional feeds are now in daily-supplementary.feeds

10:54 Techrights-sec; will you run them through rss-since-scraper.pl daily?

10:54 schestowitz-TR; I think I last 2 years ago

10:54 schestowitz-TR; and had difficulties


11 AM, April 30

11:11 Techrights-sec; lets set up a cron job on the rpi then

11:12 schestowitz-TR; that would be good (onphone now)

11:12 schestowitz-TR; brb

11:28 schestowitz-TR; my dad generally suggests that, I think correctly, my job is hard to find

11:28 schestowitz-TR; and that I should not rush with anything

11:28 schestowitz-TR; it'll be hard to find something comparable

11:57 Techrights-sec; not rush with telling the current employer anything but do keep active in

11:57 Techrights-sec; looking for an upgrade elsewhere; it is infinity easier to find a job while

11:57 Techrights-sec; you already have one, plus the pressure is less and thus the negition is from

11:57 Techrights-sec; a stronger position

11:57 Techrights-sec; it'll be hard to find something comparable so the time is now to quietly

11:57 Techrights-sec; beging looking withou letting your current employer know, say through this

11:57 Techrights-sec; log :/

11:58 schestowitz-TR; I have just physically repositioned the pi

11:58 schestowitz-TR; to take it further away from the fish tank

11:58 schestowitz-TR; it was in a risky area in case they splash

11:58 schestowitz-TR; something they go "bloop"

11:58 schestowitz-TR; *sometimes

11:58 schestowitz-TR; the pi has external 3tb drive connected to it

11:58 schestowitz-TR; I mostly use that for backup as as over-the-lan SAN

11:58 schestowitz-TR; re job, they already know for years I considered leaving

11:58 schestowitz-TR; so it's an open secret

11:58 schestowitz-TR; also, they would not read irc

11:59 schestowitz-TR; too dumb to know what that is^_^


noon, April 30

12:00 Techrights-sec; just the same ...

12:03 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I will more proactively explore

12:03 schestowitz-TR; with low expectations set

12:03 schestowitz-TR; friends who are not working in CS

12:03 schestowitz-TR; most jobs, including my current one, aren't found in papers or online

12:03 schestowitz-TR; it's someone who knows someone who...

12:03 schestowitz-TR; vouching for x...

12:03 schestowitz-TR; my skillset is contrained

12:03 schestowitz-TR; seeing hoiw fact inflation shot up, early retirement is a runaway train

12:03 schestowitz-TR; then you see how EPO treats its own PENSIONERS

12:05 schestowitz-TR; I am going to go through patent news tonight or tomorrow and focus on a set of points that are

12:05 schestowitz-TR; the biggest thorns on the side of "*uck campinos *uck *fuck"

12:05 schestowitz-TR; the strategy seems to be working

12:05 schestowitz-TR; they really, REALLY hate techrights

12:05 schestowitz-TR; and you saw last night we get uspto info as well now

12:05 schestowitz-TR; but not as often

12:05 schestowitz-TR; kappos is among those feeling the heat

12:05 schestowitz-TR; which impedes his lobbying

12:09 Techrights-sec; excellent progress

12:09 schestowitz-TR; uspto retreated a bit

12:09 schestowitz-TR; the ooxml program was supposed to start 2 years ago

12:09 schestowitz-TR; now they allow pdf

12:09 schestowitz-TR; as "backup"

12:09 schestowitz-TR; they need to back-PEDAL

12:09 schestowitz-TR; uspto aside, in epo the goal is to put someone OUTSIDE the clinque in charge

12:09 schestowitz-TR; and do what biden did in the White House (with remaining evidence) to hold

12:09 schestowitz-TR; the saboteurs accountable, skeletons found in closets and all

12:30 Techrights-sec; They need to eliminate OOXML completely, but this is a good first step in

12:30 Techrights-sec; retreat from their inexcusable attempt to hand part of the US gov to M$

12:30 Techrights-sec; ^another part

12:31 schestowitz-TR; phase a) fake consultation

12:31 schestowitz-TR; b) we're moving to ooxml

12:31 schestowitz-TR; c) ok, NOT YET

12:31 schestowitz-TR; d) OK, OK, you can still use PDF

12:31 schestowitz-TR; e) forget the whole thing

12:31 schestowitz-TR; EPO had a similar issue, but OOXML isn't there anymore

12:31 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft Vidal will harm the Office

12:32 Techrights-sec; f) find those responsible for the attempt at sabotaging the USPTO with OOXML and

12:32 Techrights-sec; fire them

12:32 schestowitz-TR; there is a typo

12:32 schestowitz-TR; you meant HIRE

12:32 schestowitz-TR; not FIRE ;-)

12:37 schestowitz-TR; this morning I made a note to myself, to a) check in first week of May Window "market share" b) end of month tasks

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I asked last night if you want the belarus files in /tmp again

12:43 Techrights-sec; well we'd get in trouble if the real verb, pulp, would be used

12:43 schestowitz-TR; gimp fiction

12:44 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/upc-celeb-meme.png

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/upc-celeb-meme.png

12:44 schestowitz-TR; funny you mention hat asd I have just one meme in the eueue

12:46 Techrights-sec; """

12:46 Techrights-sec; From Belarus With Love - Parts 1 to 3

12:46 Techrights-sec; From Belarus With Love - Parts 4 and 5

12:46 Techrights-sec; From Belarus With Love - Parts 6 and 7

12:46 Techrights-sec; """

12:46 Techrights-sec; are there others

12:46 Techrights-sec; ?

12:46 Techrights-sec; ack

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12:57 schestowitz; "ODT is much better and we are exceptionally happy about the change, which we were shy to suggest in the past. The tenants of the 10th floor dislike the publications very strongly, but they've quit siccing lawyers."

12:59 schestowitz-TR; I am going to add more now....

12:59 schestowitz-TR; got the pi instructions, too

12:59 schestowitz-TR; will look into it after this

12:59 schestowitz-TR; btw, we've moved to ODF

12:59 schestowitz-TR; away from OOXML

12:59 schestowitz-TR; sources are OK with it

12:59 schestowitz-TR; having been made aware

12:59 schestowitz-TR; you will now find two new odt files


1 PM, April 30

13:05 Techrights-sec; backed up

13:05 Techrights-sec; ^in progress

13:05 Techrights-sec; all set. thanks

13:07 schestowitz-TR; any downsides, in your experience, running the rss collectors from a laptop?

13:07 schestowitz-TR; my laptops are always turned on

13:07 Techrights-sec; not really they don't consume a lot of CPU or bandwidth it' s just that being on

13:07 Techrights-sec; a laptop they should be run manually or via anacron because the laptop might

13:07 Techrights-sec; not be active at the moment the cronjob normally runs


2 PM, April 30

14:31 schestowitz-TR; I have just run this successfully on my old laptop

14:31 schestowitz-TR; that will be a good stepping stone towards automating a lot more, where possible

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14:52 Techrights-sec; great

14:52 Techrights-sec; """

14:52 Techrights-sec; soft deadline shutdown

14:52 Techrights-sec; The system is going DOWN to maintenance mode in 480 minutes!

14:52 Techrights-sec; """


3 PM, April 30

15:06 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "the rate of antidepressant use in the United States increased nearly 400 percent." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/29/do-you-still-believe-in-the-chemical-imbalance-theory-of-mental-illness/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/29/do-you-still-believe-in-the-chemical-imbalance-theory-of-mental-illness/

15:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Do You Still Believe in the Chemical Imbalance Theory of Mental Illness? - CounterPunch.org

15:07 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> On evictions https://truthout.org/articles/evictions-are-climbing-to-pre-pandemic-levels-in-cities-across-the-us/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/evictions-are-climbing-to-pre-pandemic-levels-in-cities-across-the-us/

15:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Evictions Are Climbing to Pre-Pandemic Levels in Cities Across the US

15:16 Techrights-sec; The US has a history of medicating people that step out of line or otherwise

15:16 Techrights-sec; stand out

15:16 Techrights-sec; Torvalds probably had a close call when he was sent off in the LF coup

15:17 schestowitz-TR; mork and mindy

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15:38 Techrights-sec; in which context?

15:39 schestowitz-TR; it looks like the expander for irc line expects an html context like merged but unlike supplementary links

15:39 schestowitz-TR; is it for htmltidy or something to do with indentation?

15:43 schestowitz-TR; never mind, I got it

15:48 schestowitz-TR; ok, it seems to be working now, the workflow as is will also let me start with "Linux" feeds before you send anythi

15:48 schestowitz-TR; ng my way, I assume I just need to run it some time after midnight

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15:55 Techrights-sec;

15:55 Techrights-sec; yes any time after 00:00

15:55 Techrights-sec; you can adjust the amount of redundancy too chanve the -n days to something

15:55 Techrights-sec; useful


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19:52 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI

19:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI

↺ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI

19:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI )

↺ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=UJBlCRlEEEI


8 PM, April 30

20:14 schestowitz-TR; doing full /home backup on pi

20:14 schestowitz-TR; rianne now uses that as her file server for working files

20:14 schestowitz-TR; I reckon it's safer than kate working locally and writing only to local disk

20:14 schestowitz-TR; I still need to make a backup of the new laptop, it as no scripts for that yet

20:15 schestowitz-TR; OTA


9 PM, April 30

21:27 schestowitz-TR; These UPC lies require "anger management"

21:27 schestowitz-TR; not sure if zoobab still relies 99% on Musk Social to fight on that front

21:27 schestowitz-TR; We need to make sure only "Orange One" uses the F word and loses his cool

21:27 schestowitz-TR; not us or staff reps

21:27 schestowitz-TR; see draft pls

21:28 Techrights-sec; lies in politics, UPC or not, are frustrating especially when they are

21:28 Techrights-sec; used to produce war

21:28 Techrights-sec; yes, that's part of the diplomatic game

21:28 Techrights-sec; checking

21:28 Techrights-sec; which illegal and unconstitutional activities is glorified, and which

21:28 Techrights-sec; constitution?

21:28 Techrights-sec; I presume the EPOs own ?

21:28 Techrights-sec; The pictures are distracting

21:29 schestowitz-TR; I added links, twice, to the same thing

21:29 schestowitz-TR; 35 comments

21:29 schestowitz-TR; that explain what a sham and a SCAM this whole thing is

21:29 schestowitz-TR; I want people to click on that

21:29 schestowitz-TR; I also made full backup in IRC logs

21:29 Techrights-sec; LInks are a supplement, anchor text must provide the enticement to click on

21:29 Techrights-sec; the link

21:33 schestowitz-TR; should I take screenshots of some comments with "alt"

21:33 schestowitz-TR; as a teaser?

21:33 schestowitz-TR; mind you, I will have a MUUUUCH more detailed post about UPC tomorrow

21:33 schestowitz-TR; maybe I will do the screnshots in thatg one

21:33 schestowitz-TR; the real reason I do this one is, while recording I went to epo.org and

21:33 schestowitz-TR; saw these UPC fakes from Friday

21:33 schestowitz-TR; couldn't resist the uege to respond ASAP

21:33 schestowitz-TR; yes, but in realpolitik maybe now

21:33 schestowitz-TR; *not

21:33 Techrights-sec; that might work

21:33 Techrights-sec; are there really no legal repercussions for the lying like that?

21:49 schestowitz-TR; draft (gemini)

21:49 Techrights-sec; checking

21:49 Techrights-sec; nice summary


10 PM, April 30

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