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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, January 30, 2023

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beginning of new day, January 30

00:10 schestowitz-TR; trying python now to convert rss to html

00:10 schestowitz-TR; there are modules that help with it

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00:53 schestowitz-TR; some progress made, prototype


1 AM, January 30

01:08 schestowitz-TR; you made the opml parser, i work on epxanding a list of the given feed urls

01:08 schestowitz-TR; that alreaddy works :)

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3 AM, January 30

03:16 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

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5 AM, January 30

05:13 schestowitz-TR; see feedlist.py on /home/roy (your end)

05:13 schestowitz-TR; you can run it with python3 and the required modules

05:49 techrigthssec; ack

05:52 schestowitz-TR; ramble on faraway keyboard: so we have a kind opml parser and prototype

05:52 schestowitz-TR; for stuff that takes a list of feeds, processing them one at a time, cutting based

05:52 schestowitz-TR; on date ranges, then producing, e.g. to out put file, a page that can be opened in kate/firefox

05:52 schestowitz-TR; (in my case) for quick shelving and posting

05:52 schestowitz-TR; the prototype is not robust to oddball date formats

05:52 schestowitz-TR; but it can ingest a lot of stuff

05:52 schestowitz-TR; it would be nice to also inc. some political news from it

05:52 schestowitz-TR; and patents

05:52 schestowitz-TR; this process saves a lot of time

05:52 techrigthssec; no prototype yet the ability to retain the OPML hiearchy is lost

05:52 techrigthssec; that capability is essential in managing any set larger than a feed or two

05:54 schestowitz-TR; for now I toy around with linear list of feeds

05:54 schestowitz-TR; it works ok

05:54 schestowitz-TR; as long as there is some consistency across feeds

05:54 schestowitz-TR; with opml hierarchy several different output files can be created

05:54 schestowitz-TR; e.g. patents, politics, foss


6 AM, January 30

06:10 schestowitz-TR; a long time ago i made a script, short, for turning the opml into a list of feeds

06:10 schestowitz-TR; i cannot find it in git

06:10 schestowitz-TR; maybe it was a one-liner

06:10 schestowitz-TR; oh,i found it

06:10 schestowitz-TR; how can imake python fail gracefuly and carry on when it fails on one feed

06:10 schestowitz-TR; do you know offhand?

06:10 schestowitz-TR; ran ok

06:10 schestowitz-TR; got the flattened list

06:12 techrigthssec; Working on a hiearchical feed reader but no ETA, still looking at sketches

06:12 techrigthssec; and studies

06:12 techrigthssec; try:

06:12 techrigthssec; except:

06:12 techrigthssec; the except: part takes the type of error if you need to tune the response

06:12 techrigthssec; to the different types of exceptions raised

06:13 techrigthssec; https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/errors.html

↺ https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/errors.html

06:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-docs.python.org | 8. Errors and Exceptions Python 3.11.1 documentation

06:20 schestowitz-TR; a long time ago i made a script, short, for turning the opml into a list of feeds

06:20 schestowitz-TR; i cannot find it in git

06:21 schestowitz-TR; maybe it was a one-liner

06:21 schestowitz-TR; oh,i found it

06:21 schestowitz-TR; how can imake python fail gracefuly and carry on when it fails on one feed

06:21 schestowitz-TR; do you know offhand?

06:21 schestowitz-TR; ran ok

06:21 schestowitz-TR; got the flattened list

06:21 schestowitz-TR; fantastic! that worked

06:21 schestowitz-TR; doing a test on about 30 random feeds

06:21 schestowitz-TR; it looks like we can expand the scope of coverage withthe time saved

06:25 techrigthssec; Feeds usually indicate a waiting period so the script should take that

06:25 techrigthssec; into account and not re-fetch a feed prior to that interval having passed

06:57 schestowitz-TR; this new workflow is awesome

06:57 schestowitz-TR; ought to have done this years ago


7 AM, January 30

07:37 schestowitz-TR; WTH? "the pandemic has brought some positive changes to Finnish society, experts say." https://yle.fi/a/74-20015259?origin=rssthis new workflow is awesome

↺ https://yle.fi/a/74-20015259?origin=rssthis

07:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yle.fi | Three years since first Covid diagnosis, Finland looks for pandemic silver linings | News | Yle Uutiset

07:37 schestowitz-TR; ought to have done this years ago

07:49 schestowitz-TR; i have plugged the full list

07:49 schestowitz-TR; over 1k feeds

07:49 schestowitz-TR; for sites that areonline the script hangs forminutes

07:49 schestowitz-TR; this ie all experimental anyway


8 AM, January 30

08:11 techrigthssec; Excellent

08:57 techrigthssec; The fetching of feeds can be massively parallelized, it is not hitting the

08:57 techrigthssec; same site multiple times. The limit is RAM and local bandwidth, afiak


9 AM, January 30

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4 PM, January 30

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr rianne had back pains last year

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr i had to escalate to mangement for her to see a gp for it

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr it then took a while to book a scan

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr took 2 months to get the result!

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr it's all fine, but today she booked a physio

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr earlier available date march 27th!

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr imagine if it was very serious

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr with her aunt they have not yet begun the chemo

16:21 schestowitz-TR; otr

16:22 schestowitz-TR; months behind schedule already


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