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00:43 schestowitz-TR; bug notice
00:43 schestowitz-TR; in front page, click on Canoninical Says It "Wants....
00:43 schestowitz-TR; You'll see how the link does not work at least in some browsers
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07:25 Techrights-sec2; checking
07:25 schestowitz-TR; to better understand the new site i've run tail -f | grep -v feed in a terminal
07:25 schestowitz-TR; almost 20k hits since going live, partly as it's mentioned in irc
07:25 schestowitz-TR; rianne is not yet posting in both
07:26 schestowitz-TR; oh, she said on the phoine yesterday that she lives the looks and simplicity of the new sites
07:26 schestowitz-TR; *site
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07:57 Techrights-sec2; thanks
07:57 Techrights-sec2; there should be a banner mentioning that it is in early alpha stage
08:00 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking last night, seeing the titles in IRC expansion
08:00 schestowitz-TR; we can add " - Tux Machines"
08:00 schestowitz-TR; to the end of page titles
08:00 schestowitz-TR; maybe for now with "(Alpha)"
08:00 schestowitz-TR; and then the same at top of page, but being static means that'll stick later
08:00 schestowitz-TR; in the logs, which I see ona screen, you can already see cracking attempts
08:00 schestowitz-TR; like weird crafted reqs which make assumptions about the CMS in situ
08:03 Techrights-sec2; ok
08:03 Techrights-sec2; yes there are many cracking attempts from day 1
08:03 schestowitz-TR; welcome to the wold wild west
08:03 schestowitz-TR; www
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08:18 schestowitz-TR; doing post to remind people of uefi assault
08:18 schestowitz-TR; mgj hawking irc channel
08:18 schestowitz-TR; saw the uefi security blunder
08:18 schestowitz-TR; did a post about it
08:18 Techrights-sec2; did he ever answer your question about how to undo the damage he has done to
08:18 Techrights-sec2; FOSS the long term viability of non-M$ operating systems?
08:18 schestowitz-TR; still making excuses
08:18 schestowitz-TR; lol
08:18 schestowitz-TR; mjg59_: he's asking you ^
08:27 Techrights-sec2; The links now properly escape more troublesome characters
08:27 schestowitz-TR; draft
08:27 schestowitz-TR; thanks I've noticed, it's in the irc checker
08:30 Techrights-sec2; s/Tries to/Starts to/
08:30 Techrights-sec2; The summary needs to have a little more information about these new actions,
08:30 Techrights-sec2; just a word or two is enough. IIRC it was Lenovo?
08:30 Techrights-sec2; Yes, but a reminder about what they are ramping up is necessary, links
08:30 Techrights-sec2; don't count ;)
08:30 Techrights-sec2; plain text -- it was good enough for Shakespeare
08:30 schestowitz-TR; I will do a followup post about that
08:30 schestowitz-TR; and there are two links at the top
08:31 Techrights-sec2; The followup post can go into detail about the current event as well as the
08:31 Techrights-sec2; background, preceding hostile actions. However, just naming Lenovo or whatever
08:31 Techrights-sec2; is important for the summary.
08:37 Techrights-sec2; thanks
08:37 schestowitz-TR; multitasking with work, posts, a few more things
08:37 schestowitz-TR; I guess you are too
08:37 schestowitz-TR; no irc logs yet, yesterday was over 1MB for main channel
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08:45 Techrights-sec2; thanks
08:45 Techrights-sec2; 1MB is a lot to slog through :/
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09:11 schestowitz-TR; marius has got in
09:12 schestowitz-TR; he asks mew what the password is
09:12 schestowitz-TR; I assume such login method would still work too
09:12 schestowitz-TR; and that he can reset his password
09:12 schestowitz-TR; but I lean towards telling him to use keys instead
09:12 schestowitz-TR; thoughts?
09:12 Techrights-sec2; keys are the way to log in but I can set a password so that later sudo could
09:12 Techrights-sec2; be used for specific configurations
09:14 schestowitz-TR; if you set a password for him, maybe put it in his homedir to copy and delere
09:14 schestowitz-TR; I'm finishing the work handover now
09:20 Techrights-sec2; I'll put it in a file in his homdir
09:20 Techrights-sec2; ok he has a password now, and he can reset it, but it won't do much since
09:20 Techrights-sec2; for now
09:20 schestowitz-TR; thanks!
09:24 schestowitz-TR; I've just messaged him (pgp, but I don't trust protonmail, they're like mitm)
09:24 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to mention the UEFI thing every day now
09:24 schestowitz-TR; to urge for action, or anger that begets some action
09:24 schestowitz-TR; the followup post shows why action is not likely
09:24 schestowitz-TR; not from orgs and vendors
09:24 schestowitz-TR; we have a whole new class of well-paid "clergy" (e.g. stefono) whose job is
09:24 schestowitz-TR; to cover up for Microsoft and its crimes
09:24 schestowitz-TR; and they cannot do what's right without losing a 6-figure salary
09:26 Techrights-sec2; thanks, the UEFI problm has been allowed to go on far too long without proper
09:26 Techrights-sec2; legal action against M$ and the UEFI team; it's not quite too late but getting
09:26 Techrights-sec2; there given how slow the courts act even on the occasions when they do act
09:27 schestowitz-TR; we'll know we make good progress when more people, many people, explain the situation
09:27 schestowitz-TR; correctly
09:27 schestowitz-TR; that is the vitral role of TR, IMHO
09:27 Techrights-sec2; yes
09:32 Techrights-sec2; with UEFI the damage is already being felt and that seems to be the litmus test
09:32 Techrights-sec2; which courts go by; the only risk is that many judges worship bill and often
09:32 Techrights-sec2; they or their spouses are invested either in the company via stock or as
09:32 Techrights-sec2; resellers
09:32 Techrights-sec2; WSL is to prevent people from running Linux on bare metal, like any other
09:32 Techrights-sec2; M$ product it's not meant to work only give the illusion of it to managers
09:32 Techrights-sec2; with purchasing power, especially those zero-sum-gamers
09:32 schestowitz-TR; aard: make the user feel uncoomfrotable
09:32 schestowitz-TR; user blames "Linux"
09:32 schestowitz-TR; "it's just too hard"
09:33 schestowitz-TR; "maybe I'll try WSL or something..."
09:33 schestowitz-TR; (notice no coverage of howtos on wsl for months... it's flailing and dying)
09:33 schestowitz-TR; resellers like Sheela Microsoft
09:33 schestowitz-TR; That's what I've called her lately
09:41 schestowitz-TR; OTA, got some near EPO material from the inside
09:52 schestowitz; [LSCMN] Report on the LSCMN meeting with VP4 of 12 July 2022
09:53 schestowitz; Dear colleagues,
09:53 schestowitz; On 12 July 2022 the Local Staff Committee Munich City, Haar and Brussels (LSCMN) met the Site Manager of Munich City, VP4 Nellie Simon, for the first time in 2022 to discuss a number of prevailing local matters, notably the Bringing Teams Together project and the planned move of the BoA Unit to PH 7 in a virtual meeting which had been scheduled, as had the previous ones last year, for one hour, only.
09:53 schestowitz; Since on some topics no progress had been made, we had requested the administration to put them on the agenda again.
09:53 schestowitz; The Local Staff Committee Munich City, Haar and Brussels.
09:53 schestowitz; Your LSCMN committee
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11:43 Techrights-sec2; Alpine seems to be setting the SetGID bit for the home directories. That
11:43 Techrights-sec2; doesn't seem to matter. But I've removed it from the .ssh directories anyway,
11:43 Techrights-sec2; it can be set back by people if needed later.
11:43 Techrights-sec2; One of the things the courts need to be brought around into seeing is that
11:43 Techrights-sec2; M$ has been planning hardware lock-in for decades and that the lock-in is
11:43 Techrights-sec2; very intentional.
11:43 Techrights-sec2; https://www.technologyreview.com/2002/10/25/234673/the-palladium-paradox/
11:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | The Palladium Paradox | MIT Technology Review
11:45 schestowitz-TR; unemployed BS artists who run sites about nutty theorists might have received such training in the past, but working with them would be hard
11:45 schestowitz-TR; also, a potential liability
11:45 schestowitz-TR; like "phanes", whom I never wanted to associate with
11:45 schestowitz-TR; \
11:50 Techrights-sec2; By the way can you stock authorized_keys in your account before you log out?
11:50 Techrights-sec2; Then before logging out, try logging in with the key?
11:50 Techrights-sec2; ssh-keygen -t ed25519 ...
11:50 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:51 schestowitz-TR; will do in a moment, just got fatigued by 6 pages of text redone as HTML
11:51 schestowitz-TR; draft
11:51 schestowitz-TR; nm
11:51 schestowitz-TR; you're away
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12:32 Techrights-sec2; did key access work?
12:32 schestowitz-TR; yes, should I do the same for tuxmachinea and roy
12:32 schestowitz-TR; or should I refrain from using one of them?
12:32 schestowitz-TR; that mostly depends on default user for db entry and permission/access level I assume
12:32 schestowitz-TR; I'm already logged in as root on another machine to observe the attacks on the htdocs space
12:35 Techrights-sec2; yes for both but if possible use the 'roy' account when possible
12:35 Techrights-sec2; it'd be good to turn off remote login for 'tuxmachines' and use su or sudo
12:35 Techrights-sec2; to work in it
12:35 schestowitz-TR; rianns should be back in the next hour or less
12:35 schestowitz-TR; but has lots of house chores to catch up with
12:35 schestowitz-TR; then I'll set up the other accounbt, with her public key in it too
12:35 schestowitz-TR; I cannot grab it from her over ssh at the moment
12:35 schestowitz-TR; as the machine is in her back pack someplace in Manchester
12:35 schestowitz-TR; hibernating
12:36 schestowitz-TR; your assumption is correct
12:36 schestowitz-TR; btw, video is 130mb in size, still uploading if you want to peek at the draft
12:36 schestowitz-TR; I did a second (final) read of it, just waiting for server checksum to show up when done
12:40 schestowitz-TR; 19k hits in new TM, but many are the irc checker, among the rest a lot are malicious traffic
12:40 schestowitz-TR; a recent (month old ) article complained that a proportion I cannot recall is nowadays
12:40 schestowitz-TR; bots
12:40 schestowitz-TR; including many malicious ones
12:40 schestowitz-TR; that's worse than gemini
12:41 Techrights-sec2; we could add SSHGuard to the mess, it can block some of the return attackers
12:43 Techrights-sec2; despite the anme it covers HTTP
12:43 schestowitz-TR; that's another protocll
12:43 schestowitz-TR; I'm talking about http/s alone
12:43 schestowitz-TR; from apache2 logfiles
12:43 schestowitz-TR; we used to run fail2ban on the varnish layer
12:43 schestowitz-TR; apropos, with static sites little incentive to run varnish at all
12:46 Techrights-sec2; fail2ban is not up to the same level as sshguard from what I have read in the
12:46 Techrights-sec2; past
12:47 schestowitz-TR; I don't care for shit traffic
12:47 schestowitz-TR; I'm not twitter faking traffic for showoff
12:47 schestowitz-TR; or fake price
12:47 schestowitz-TR; also, I don't serve 20 objects per page
12:47 schestowitz-TR; my knowledge of iptables and nftables etc. is outdaates
12:47 schestowitz-TR; *dated
12:47 schestowitz-TR; same for filters like fail2ban
12:47 schestowitz-TR; as we have not used that for ages
12:47 schestowitz-TR; it was too sensitive
12:47 schestowitz-TR; blocked me too at times
12:49 Techrights-sec2; at least with SSHGuard, that can be tuned and has to be configured anyway
12:51 schestowitz-TR; now rianne spots all the minor imperfections
12:51 schestowitz-TR; from the untrained new recruit
12:51 schestowitz-TR; who didn't set the deck of books upright and used thw wrong bin bag etc.
13:05 schestowitz-TR; I'm assuming links come later, that's fine
13:05 schestowitz-TR; friday is slow news anyway
13:05 schestowitz-TR; hmm... windows down further in turkey 9.8%
13:05 schestowitz-TR; but not a lot below since I laast checked
13:05 schestowitz-TR; android 70%
13:05 schestowitz-TR; it says finland 40% windows, 11% linux
13:05 schestowitz-TR; but likely small sample size
13:05 schestowitz-TR; saingapore 17% windoiws, 54% android
13:05 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:05 Techrights-sec2; links on the way
13:11 Techrights-sec2; 11% is quite high given what level of search-and-destroy the microsofters
13:11 Techrights-sec2; have carried out in the businesses and colleges which they control
13:11 Techrights-sec2; (which is nearly all of them) that 11% must be private individuals at home
13:11 Techrights-sec2; s/have carried/have been carrying/
13:11 Techrights-sec2; it's been a 10+ year campaign against general purpose computing
13:11 Techrights-sec2; non-M$ applications are banned from desktops and only M$ operating systems
13:11 Techrights-sec2; are allowed to be connected to the LAN and there is no provision for remote
13:11 Techrights-sec2; connection; the networking is less capable than the 1980s in some ways
13:11 Techrights-sec2; certainly what was in production during the mid to late 1990s was, looking back,
13:11 Techrights-sec2; two to three decades ahead of what is deployed now :/
13:19 schestowitz-TR; draft
13:19 schestowitz-TR; fixing
13:20 Techrights-sec2; checking
13:20 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:20 Techrights-sec2; perhaps it should be mentioned that the reason for migrating away from
13:20 Techrights-sec2; M$ are both control and security; furthermore *all* countries can realize
13:20 Techrights-sec2; those benefits by ditching M$
13:22 schestowitz-TR; check again, added caption
13:29 Techrights-sec2; ok
13:29 Techrights-sec2; thanks!
13:29 Techrights-sec2; s/reason/reasons/
13:29 Techrights-sec2; s/the/The/
13:29 schestowitz-TR; yes, still edited a bit
13:29 schestowitz-TR; thanks
13:29 schestowitz-TR; added to uefi wiki now
13:29 schestowitz-TR; matey and I argue in irc over what's most pressing/urgent
13:29 schestowitz-TR; I told him this is
13:29 schestowitz-TR; ---------------------------
13:32 schestowitz-TR; yes it's not new, and has been allowed to progress to an advanced stage
13:32 schestowitz-TR; and harm is already manifesting; given the slowness of the courts any
13:32 schestowitz-TR; remediation will take years -- all the while M$, and the OEMs it controls,
13:32 Techrights-sec2; yes it's not new, and has been allowed to progress to an advanced stage
13:32 Techrights-sec2; and harm is already manifesting; given the slowness of the courts any
13:32 Techrights-sec2; remediation will take years -- all the while M$, and the OEMs it controls,
13:32 Techrights-sec2; will progress down this path; their moles in IBM, Canonical, etc will continue
13:32 schestowitz-TR; will progress down this path; their moles in IBM, Canonical, etc will continue
13:32 Techrights-sec2; to help them
13:32 schestowitz-TR; to help them
13:32 Techrights-sec2; mjg will not be able to work off this bad karma in a single lifetime
13:32 schestowitz-TR; mjg will not be able to work off this bad karma in a single lifetime
13:32 schestowitz-TR; Work is needed against it, post haste, in the EU and in North America
13:32 Techrights-sec2; Work is needed against it, post haste, in the EU and in North America
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13:36 schestowitz-TR; I'll get sdtarted with links
13:36 schestowitz-TR; got distracted by work
13:36 schestowitz-TR; then irc
13:36 schestowitz-TR; than rianne
13:36 schestowitz-TR; etc etc.
13:36 schestowitz-TR; but I can catch up now
13:36 schestowitz-TR; at least the important epo staff (very fresh, new) is out
13:36 schestowitz-TR; along with the 33-min video
13:36 schestowitz-TR; and we did two posts on uefi issue
13:36 schestowitz-TR; as you note, we never tackled the issue, collectively
13:36 schestowitz-TR; we let it drag on and on
13:36 schestowitz-TR; and now with the rage we need to push for actual action
13:36 schestowitz-TR; seeing that microsofty mesanwhile corrupted all those with stake
13:36 schestowitz-TR; and with "reputation" to sway legal or regulatory action
13:36 schestowitz-TR; this is corruption on many levels
13:36 schestowitz-TR; this... is Microsoft
13:36 schestowitz-TR; "then they fight you"
13:36 schestowitz-TR; they used to ridicule us regarding not being able to tuen off 'secure' boot
13:36 schestowitz-TR; this is worse
13:36 schestowitz-TR; as they impose it AND they don't accept "approved" Linux
13:36 schestowitz-TR; the people who mocked us for it are in prison for fucking children
13:43 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:44 schestowitz-TR; people who spend 10 years attacking innocent people are incapable of mea culpa
13:44 schestowitz-TR; see his latest post, still shilling
13:44 schestowitz-TR; it's an ego problem
13:47 schestowitz-TR; one who takes covid19 jabs wants everyone else to do so too
13:48 schestowitz-TR; to share the coillective risk
13:48 schestowitz-TR; same with therapy
13:48 schestowitz-TR; one who visits therapists thinks everybody else should go to one
13:48 schestowitz-TR; even if none are needed
13:48 Techrights-sec2; configured nftables on tm now
13:48 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:48 Techrights-sec2; it's about control and making other people eat a bug and declare they didn't like it
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13:51 schestowitz-TR; apropos, rianne did not contract anything
13:51 schestowitz-TR; been 2.5 years and no ibfection here
13:51 schestowitz-TR; we still wash and quarantine verything
13:51 schestowitz-TR; 1 year ago and 2 years agoi in summer we went to the gym
13:51 schestowitz-TR; no mask inside the gym floor (not many people)
13:51 schestowitz-TR; but back then there were very very low infection rates (summer)
13:51 schestowitz-TR; now it's millions per week or month
13:52 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:04 schestowitz-TR; with the new git wrappers I can see not just links but both git repos like a notification timeline sliding
14:04 schestowitz-TR; with scope of about 4 hours on one screen
14:04 schestowitz-TR; inc. summary of changes and which files
14:04 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:04 schestowitz-TR; if I can remove dupliate status (lines), that would be the next logical state/step
14:04 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'll rewrite it as background process with output to fie
14:04 schestowitz-TR; then tail | uniq it
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14:32 schestowitz-TR; do the r-bloggers posts belong under Software Patennts
14:32 schestowitz-TR; I read the blockquote, not the full thing
14:32 schestowitz-TR; but maybe misfiled?
14:33 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:33 Techrights-sec2; probably not, it may have been misfiled
14:33 Techrights-sec2; checking ...
14:33 Techrights-sec2; ... it was misfiled
14:33 Techrights-sec2; both should have been under "software"
14:33 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I was gettign worried that they had gone rogue with the name changes
14:33 schestowitz-TR; r is very academias-centric
14:33 schestowitz-TR; that's why the riminals (microsoft) bought some r orgs/companies
14:33 schestowitz-TR; to infiltrate unis
14:33 schestowitz-TR; and brionwash CS sudents or students with stats in their course
14:35 schestowitz-TR; I missed nothing
14:35 schestowitz-TR; I saw what you wrote
14:35 schestowitz-TR; you said that yes, Microsoft controls that bunch of r stuff
14:35 schestowitz-TR; and that they have it with vengaeance but don't dare say a thing
14:35 schestowitz-TR; and then something like as long as they can still sue gnu/linux
14:35 Techrights-sec2; trl-c in wrong window
14:35 schestowitz-TR; then ctrl+c
14:35 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:36 schestowitz-TR; *use
14:36 schestowitz-TR; they leave the sue to microsoft
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or its enablers, threatening to sue the people they defame
14:36 schestowitz-TR; after attacking Linux
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14:44 Techrights-sec2; yes
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15:10 schestowitz-TR; ok, now a new line is shown only if the status ot git or daily links changes
15:10 schestowitz-TR; watch -t lets me remove the clock
15:10 schestowitz-TR; so now I can have the terminal make an alert when changes occur
15:15 Techrights-sec2; cak
15:15 Techrights-sec2; ^ack
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17:09 psydruid; https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1563/intel-reports-second-quarter-2022-financial-results
17:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel Reports Second-Quarter 2022 Financial Results :: Intel Corporation (INTC)
17:10 psydruid; since the main channel has been taken over
17:12 Techrights-sec2; adjusted hover effects a little on tm
17:12 Techrights-sec2; nftables does not seem to have the ability to age entries out of named sets
17:12 Techrights-sec2; unlike PF
17:13 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: :-D
17:13 schestowitz-TR; th 'free' market will bail them out
17:14 schestowitz-TR; taxpayers won't buy?
17:14 schestowitz-TR; force em to pay
17:14 psydruid; where?
17:14 psydruid; in America?
17:14 psydruid; in Europe?
17:14 schestowitz-TR; usa
17:14 schestowitz-TR; they bail out ther rich
17:14 schestowitz-TR; "CHIPS"
17:14 schestowitz-TR; "national security"
17:14 schestowitz-TR; gifts for the rich
17:15 psydruid; I hope they will increase prices a bit more at the start of next year
17:15 schestowitz-TR; "Too big to fail'
17:15 psydruid; turn the screws a bit more year after year
17:27 Techrights-sec2; ack
17:27 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: on the poor
17:27 schestowitz-TR; until there is no capital left (to borrow)
17:27 schestowitz-TR; all of it is already in offshore bank accounts of the robber class
17:27 schestowitz-TR; because "national security"
17:28 schestowitz-TR; their offshore bank accounts are your "security"
17:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Ask EFF if people who oppose abortion also have digital rights. Because EFF stepping into politics mostly splits the support base, makes it less effective at achieving its original goals.
17:42 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This is about inclusion in a software patents racket; they are not "anti-troll group", they include trolls like Microsoft, so AOL now issues paid-for fluff for bad people https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/lot-the-big-tech-anti-patent-troll-group-launches-adapt-to-tackle-inclusion-in-the-world-of-ip/ http://techrights.org/2020/03/27/the-lot-network-pa<techrights-news> This is about inclusion in a software patents racket;
17:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-LOT, the anti-patent-troll group, launches Adapt to tackle inclusion in the world of IP TechCrunch
17:42 schestowitz-TR; they are not "anti-troll group", they include trolls like Microsoft, so AOL now issues paid-for fluff for bad people https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/lot-the-big-tech-anti-patent-troll-group-launches-adapt-to-tackle-inclusion-in-the-world-of-ip/ http://techrights.org/2020/03/27/the-lot-network-paper-club/per-club/
17:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | LOT Network is a One-Man (Millionaires) Operation and Why This Should Alarm You | Techrights
17:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2020/03/27/the-lot-network-paper-club/per-club/ )
17:44 Techrights-sec2; true that
17:44 Techrights-sec2; furthermore they are distracted from their core goals as originally set out
17:44 Techrights-sec2; the model that M$ uses to offload its underwater software patents is worth looking at in detail;
17:46 schestowitz-TR; we wrote about a dozen posts about it back then
17:46 schestowitz-TR; you describe it incorrectly tbh
17:46 Techrights-sec2; yes, but if it becomes relevant to recent events it can be brought up
17:47 schestowitz-TR; "microsoft, what do you sell?
17:47 schestowitz-TR; "we sell protection now"
17:51 schestowitz-TR; rianne is catching up with the news now
17:51 schestowitz-TR; so far nothing 'inflaming'
17:51 schestowitz-TR; afaict
17:51 schestowitz-TR; and there's got, fresh foot again
17:51 schestowitz-TR; *hot
17:51 schestowitz-TR; *food
17:51 schestowitz-TR; a friend of a friend just died (very young, 40s I think) after a stroke left her in a vegetative state
17:51 schestowitz-TR; they say due to stress
17:51 schestowitz-TR; she was a nurse IIRC
17:51 schestowitz-TR; she only got told this afternoon
18:06 Techrights-sec2; On TM, the script /home/git/tuxmachines.org/hooks/update gets run any time
18:06 Techrights-sec2; the repository is updated. That script could call SSH with a locked down key
18:06 Techrights-sec2; to push a notification to your home network.
18:08 schestowitz-TR; the way it is set up atm, it checks downstream 12 times an hour
18:08 schestowitz-TR; and I get a system bell with details
18:08 schestowitz-TR; so it's ok as-is
18:08 schestowitz-TR; it does 3 things all in one
18:08 schestowitz-TR; maybe more in the future
18:08 schestowitz-TR; to reduce the level or frequency of manual polling
18:08 schestowitz-TR; e.g. check latest updates in geminispace
18:18 schestowitz-TR; how hard would it be to tell tidy not to panic over "&" in the HTML not being "&"?
18:18 Techrights-sec2; there might be setting to fix it automatically
18:22 Techrights-sec2; there is a lot of duplication between the two scripts so at some point the
18:22 Techrights-sec2; common subroutines should go into a shared module
18:24 schestowitz-TR; in tiny step or my m,onitoring shell script?
18:26 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Bailout out os subsidising buyback machines? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/28/big-oils-record-profits-and-buyback-splurge-spotlight-broken-energy-system-critics | Source: Common Dreams
18:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Big Oil's Record Profits and Buyback Splurge Spotlight 'Broken Energy System,' Critics Say
18:27 Techrights-sec2; tidy has --quote-ampersand but it turns out it is incompatible with
18:27 Techrights-sec2; --preserve-entities and the latter is more important; it's possible to add
18:27 Techrights-sec2; a filter
18:29 schestowitz-TR; there's room for many automation and proprocessing steps
18:29 schestowitz-TR; (preprocessing
18:29 schestowitz-TR; to save time on data entry
18:29 schestowitz-TR; but I've not explored that yet
18:29 schestowitz-TR; parly because right now I submit the same to two cntent management systems
18:41 Techrights-sec2; but the regex is very tricky because it must not destroy any entities which
18:41 Techrights-sec2; are already encoded
18:41 Techrights-sec2; the built-in CPAN modul for that is not so sensitive and clobbers the
18:41 Techrights-sec2; existing entities so it may not be used
18:43 schestowitz-TR; it would usually be enough to replace " & " with " & " as URLs contain no spaces
18:43 schestowitz-TR; there are many other substitutions that can make data entry faster
18:43 schestowitz-TR; at one point we can borrow from camelcase.pm to add site name to titles
18:44 Techrights-sec2; yes, but zapping all ampersands creates bigger problems so the replacement
18:44 Techrights-sec2; has to be selective but it's a little tricky figuring out the right pattern
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18:46 schestowitz-TR; html has many shitty things about it
18:46 schestowitz-TR; ampersand handling was always one of them
18:46 schestowitz-TR; in TR I need to use care and remember what symbols never to put in titles and summaries
18:46 schestowitz-TR; as they lead to conflicts later
18:46 schestowitz-TR; not to say gemtext is perfect
18:46 schestowitz-TR; those symbols exist for a purpose
18:46 schestowitz-TR; in the body, anything that starts with "<" is recipe for big trouble of all sorts
18:46 schestowitz-TR; if not rewritten as <
18:56 Techrights-sec2; correct, there's not much to do about that except being careful about using
18:56 Techrights-sec2; < when it is needed, there is not way to parse the text and guess whether
18:56 Techrights-sec2; and element was meant or not
18:57 schestowitz-TR; usually & followed by a space is safe to rewrite
18:59 Techrights-sec2; Yes the task is complicated by the fact that negative lookaheads must be
18:59 Techrights-sec2; fixed length
18:59 Techrights-sec2; in practicce
18:59 Techrights-sec2; There are also occurrences like "R&D" and "AT&T" which can also be "R & D" or
18:59 Techrights-sec2; "AT & T"
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19:40 schestowitz-TR; psoting some pages
19:40 schestowitz-TR; trying to keep at this one task
19:40 schestowitz-TR; contraints on alpersand seem like a fairly new thing
19:40 Techrights-sec2; ok rather than trying to overthink it, we'll just go with ' & ' -> ' & '
19:40 Techrights-sec2; ampersands have always been a "problem" going back to the 1990s
19:45 Techrights-sec2; yes and < > for markup was ok until a-holes decided to use them for citations
19:45 schestowitz-TR; yes, not only them
19:45 schestowitz-TR; less than it another example
19:45 schestowitz-TR; t can go horribly wrong because the escape char is singular
19:45 schestowitz-TR; and is also a very commonly used char
19:45 schestowitz-TR; too late to "fix" thing
19:45 schestowitz-TR; in gemini I can use it freely
19:46 schestowitz-TR; the START of the line is the sensitive thing
19:46 schestowitz-TR; first three chars alone
19:46 schestowitz-TR; and it makes processing more efficient too
19:46 schestowitz-TR; there are fulls who werite plain text emails with <url>
19:46 schestowitz-TR; when they could use some other forms
19:46 schestowitz-TR; not sure if some microsoft 'mail' 'clients' reinforced it
19:46 schestowitz-TR; but it gives me manual work
19:46 schestowitz-TR; some 5 or so years ago, when emoji became common I started HAVING to double check that anything I posted in TM
19:46 schestowitz-TR; was not quitly truncated at the first occurance encountered of an emmoji P.O.S.
19:46 schestowitz-TR; wordpress can deal OK with these
19:46 schestowitz-TR; not sure how amfora and some cli/ncurses interfaces deal with emojis in gewmini
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19:54 Techrights-sec2; yes that's one example [url] would have been safe or parseable
19:54 Techrights-sec2; not sure. emoji are a terrible waste of resources, not computer resources as
19:54 Techrights-sec2; much as human attention and effort
19:54 schestowitz-TR; afaik they elongate bit length of each char in the set
19:54 schestowitz-TR; so not worth the supposed "savings" they give in terms of data contained
19:54 schestowitz-TR; also, to render them you need to store many glyphs tou will never use or see
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19:55 Techrights-sec2; utf-8, utf-16, utf-32
20:01 schestowitz-TR; slow news today, but not much "annoying" news that I can see so far
20:01 schestowitz-TR; so that's good
20:01 schestowitz-TR; disruption to poisitive advocacy is Microsoft throwing wrenches at the cogs
20:01 schestowitz-TR; but then again the UEFI thing is obnoxious and they infiltrate a lot of orgs (not
20:01 schestowitz-TR; any NEW ones that I can see)
20:02 Techrights-sec2; ack
20:04 schestowitz-TR; btw, I lacked the time yesterday to point out two articles about servers and Microsoft
20:04 schestowitz-TR; one was about azure being utter shit
20:04 schestowitz-TR; the other was the latest netcraft report showing shrap decreased for Microsoft again
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20:06 schestowitz-TR; each time I mention the decline of WIndows I will point out how they cheat and break the law
20:06 schestowitz-TR; \
20:06 schestowitz-TR; btw, I lacked the time yesterday to point out two articles about servers and Microsoft
20:06 schestowitz-TR; one was about azure being utter shit
20:06 schestowitz-TR; the other was the latest netcraft report showing shrap decreased for Microsoft again
20:06 schestowitz-TR; a lot of busineses move to apache/nginx during the pandemic
20:06 schestowitz-TR; microsoft knows it's too expensive to lie to them
20:06 schestowitz-TR; and so it's trying to swallow the migrants and become a "linux host"
20:06 schestowitz-TR; it has not worked so far
20:06 schestowitz-TR; it's a money sinkhole
20:06 Techrights-sec2; good
20:06 Techrights-sec2; can you send the URLs?
20:06 Techrights-sec2; yes
20:07 schestowitz; https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/07/28/july-2022-web-server-survey.html https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2022/07/28/how-i-investigated-connection-hogs-on-kubernetes/
20:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | July 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
20:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ddumont.wordpress.com | How I investigated connection hogs on Kubernetes | Dominique Dumont's Blog
20:17 schestowitz-TR; I think I might expand my script to git show when new changes are commited so I can see the diff, not just outline
20:17 schestowitz-TR; but there might be limitations in the trigger
20:17 schestowitz-TR; I now have a tall windows showing the changes
20:17 schestowitz-TR; and beeping
20:17 schestowitz-TR; re azure, maybe I'l do an article this weekend, I put that as an idea in my notes for now
20:17 schestowitz-TR; there's also the 2 microsoft series
20:18 Techrights-sec2; as mentioned earlier, the script /home/git/tuxmachines.org/hooks/update
20:18 Techrights-sec2; runs on the server any time it receive changes and that can be used to fire
20:18 Techrights-sec2; up a notification script so that the inefficent polling method can be avoided
20:33 Techrights-sec2; added two quick shell scripts (with AWK) to cull the bad addresses and add them
20:33 Techrights-sec2; to the blacklisted set
20:33 Techrights-sec2; they're run manually; I'll put them in to a separate tmux session
20:34 Techrights-sec2; modified the nftables rules to have a named set for blocking bad addresses
20:37 schestowitz-TR; I think I found >3 options for making git pull a bit more verbose
20:37 schestowitz-TR; when new changes are available
20:37 schestowitz-TR; but will have that tested when you push things
20:37 schestowitz-TR; yes, anything running in tmux would help
20:37 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines already has one tmux session running with top in it
20:37 schestowitz-TR; with gnu screen I know how to atach by id
20:37 schestowitz-TR; tmux I don't know how to
20:37 Techrights-sec2; ok?
20:38 Techrights-sec2; "tmux ls" will show the names of the sessions available to the current account
20:38 Techrights-sec2; ctrl-b d
20:38 Techrights-sec2; detaches the session
20:39 Techrights-sec2; anyway, the two quick scripts ought to quiet the logs substantially
20:39 Techrights-sec2; we can check tomorrow what other criteria can be added
20:40 schestowitz-TR; which account does that session run udner?
20:40 Techrights-sec2; it has to run under root because it uses nft but I guess I could add a
20:40 Techrights-sec2; wrapper or something and then run it via sudo, right now it's just quick
20:40 Techrights-sec2; sloppy, hopefully not too sloppy;
20:41 schestowitz-TR; ok, hang on
20:44 schestowitz-TR; what's the syntax for attach?
20:44 schestowitz-TR; I tried -L
20:44 schestowitz-TR; but looks like it make a new session
20:50 schestowitz-TR; OK, I see you have another persistent session there for development
20:50 schestowitz-TR; on user TM I have a mostly useless placeholder session too
20:52 Techrights-sec2; yes
20:52 Techrights-sec2; it has been necessary while setting up git, the accounts, and juggling the
20:52 Techrights-sec2; configurations and file system permissions
20:52 schestowitz-TR; with disconnections and blackouts (outages) I guess this becomes ever more essential an approach
20:53 Techrights-sec2; I would agree
20:57 Techrights-sec2; I'm not sure how to let one session have priority over the layout so I'll leave
20:57 Techrights-sec2; it alone for now;
20:58 schestowitz-TR; just neede to find windows size that tmux can reconcile for all attendees
20:58 schestowitz-TR; I made a typo, it's not meant to show feed requests
21:00 schestowitz-TR; fyw i only work monday, once, for the next 8 days
21:00 schestowitz-TR; i'm not committed to being awake 1-9
21:00 schestowitz-TR; i will get a 2-hour nap soon, then carry on
21:00 schestowitz-TR; i'm super-happy about the new site (tr will be after this) and rianne likes it too
21:00 Techrights-sec2; excellent
21:00 Techrights-sec2; I'm glad it is considered a good thing
21:02 schestowitz-TR; we can see how big a task it is. summertime is quiet enough.
21:02 schestowitz-TR; also, for the sites to grow they need a proper, not general-purpose platform e.g. for automated
21:02 schestowitz-TR; video processing so that I don't have to "f*ck around" with video editors
21:02 schestowitz-TR; editing videos can make production take 5-10 times longer
21:03 Techrights-sec2; yes it is fortunate that it is still technically summer in the northern
21:03 Techrights-sec2; hemisphere
21:03 Techrights-sec2; or longer
21:03 Techrights-sec2; editing can be quite slow even without waiting for the computer
21:06 schestowitz-TR; from personal experience, doing a well-cujt 2-minute rms video clip can take half an hour
21:06 schestowitz-TR; not counting preparing special clips
21:06 schestowitz-TR; now, all I do is supply video time range, enter title, choose filename
21:06 schestowitz-TR; then I just wait
21:06 schestowitz-TR; the time range is for gif preview
21:06 schestowitz-TR; file management and checksums are part of the script already
21:06 schestowitz-TR; in robertson's case, a one-day video (research, recording, editing) can be removed by gulag
21:06 schestowitz-TR; for no good reason and appeals are handled by bots, if at all
21:06 Techrights-sec2; ack
21:06 Techrights-sec2; if at all ...
21:06 schestowitz-TR; that's not the first time I heard of such things, it happened also a decade ago in atheist channels
21:06 schestowitz-TR; and other political stuff I frequented
21:08 schestowitz-TR; --------
21:09 schestowitz-TR; bbl
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