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01:10 techrightssec2; s/frivolous surveillance/frivolous harrassment/ ?
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04:09 schestowitz-TR; with the spare time I've decided to devote some to explaining and showing what linuxhint has been up to
04:09 schestowitz-TR; drafts for 5am (misnight server time)
05:28 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.pussthecat.org/StigmabaseN/status/1607696099300765696#m
05:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Stigmabase | NORDIC (@StigmabaseN): "TW : Witch-hunts Backfiring: Koala Charities Leveraged by Sirius Open Source as a Weapon Against the...: ...relative she has in the UK, had been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer and may need holidays to be confirmed (as many... http://dlvr.it/Sg0JqW" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org
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07:42 schestowitz-TR; lunduke uploading to youtube again, people ask why he deleted everything
07:42 schestowitz-TR; he says his asthma is back and he sounds like a smoker
07:42 schestowitz-TR; and he speaks in crypto about issues to sell subscription to articles
07:42 schestowitz-TR; without actually saying anything, to protect the paywall
07:42 schestowitz-TR; i rarely click to play/watch
07:42 schestowitz-TR; after this I'm less likely to
07:42 schestowitz-TR; also, what he says about mozilla is hardly new
07:42 schestowitz-TR; so far today has been quite productive
07:42 schestowitz-TR; exercise in 30 mins
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10:22 techrightssec2; Is this site legitimate? https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-about
10:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opensourceforu.com | More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks About
10:23 schestowitz-TR; i wondered the same a week agoi
10:23 schestowitz-TR; it's a very weird site, but hit and miss
10:23 schestowitz-TR; don't think it is automated
10:41 schestowitz-TR; seems like msft layoffs rumours intensify
10:41 schestowitz-TR; based on web traffic in TR
10:41 schestowitz-TR; msft might delay to "prove" the rumours 'wrong'
10:41 schestowitz-TR; but it's coming
10:41 schestowitz-TR; https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-about More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks About
10:46 techrightssec2; Overall layoffs at M$ are good but a harmful sideeffect is that the scum find
10:46 techrightssec2; other employers and carry m$ toxic culture and products over to their new
10:46 techrightssec2; paymasters, effectively still working for m$
10:46 techrightssec2; One can hope...
10:46 techrightssec2; "talent"
10:46 schestowitz-TR; some are on visa and not many companies hire
10:46 schestowitz-TR; so the "dead weight" might end up almost nowhere
10:46 schestowitz-TR; or so one can hope...nobody wants "WINDOWS TALENT" [sic]
10:46 schestowitz-TR; esp. now with constrained budgets
10:48 schestowitz-TR; look at it like this,
10:48 schestowitz-TR; where would you rather have them?
10:48 schestowitz-TR; in msft or outside?
10:48 schestowitz-TR; death is not an option
10:48 schestowitz-TR; is msft gets smaller, that's a plus
10:48 schestowitz-TR; i've just realises andy's series does not talk much about free softwware
10:48 schestowitz-TR; it looks at the dystophia from another level
10:57 techrightssec2; not sure, it'd be best if there were a way to rehabilitate them but they lack
10:57 techrightssec2; the mindset for computing and the ethics as well, so maybe outside of any
10:57 techrightssec2; part of ICT and, especially, education would be enough distance
11:17 techrightssec2; Perhaps each segment can include a mention of how FOSS is useful in mitigating
11:17 techrightssec2; or even reversing the dystopian trends.
11:17 schestowitz-TR; nuclear fusion hype https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/nuclear-fusion-dont-believe-the-hype/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nuclear Fusion: Dont Believe the Hype! - CounterPunch.org
11:26 schestowitz-TR; opium... "He is partly right. Not only do governments invest in sports as a form of distraction" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/on-football-opium-and-popular-resistance-not-all-sports-are-created-equal/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-On Football, Opium and Popular Resistance: Not All Sports Are Created Equal - CounterPunch.org
11:36 schestowitz-TR; is there still a way to retrieve paragraphs from bodies in commondreams
11:36 schestowitz-TR; they seem to have changed something over xmas, not it's empty like in truthout
11:37 schestowitz-TR; *now it's empty
11:37 schestowitz-TR; some other sites are too, but since ages ago
11:48 techrightssec2; Checking
11:48 techrightssec2; Thanks for spotting that. It should work correctly starting with tomorrow's feed, they had changed some of the c
11:48 techrightssec2; lasses involved but otherwise the structure
11:48 techrightssec2; was the same.
11:48 techrightssec2; Which others need correction? As always scraping is brittle so if a single
11:48 techrightssec2; letter or number changes in the wrong place, the script misses the information.
11:51 schestowitz-TR; Thanks, I think counterpunch still picks par 2-3 due to some old campaign that occupied par 1
12:01 techrightssec2; Checking, again
12:07 schestowitz-TR; maybe we could add some more
12:07 schestowitz-TR; but I'm not sure which
12:07 schestowitz-TR; many are not updating often
12:07 techrightssec2; ok, counterpunch is now updated and the effects will be seen next time
12:07 techrightssec2; thanks for spotting that one too
12:08 schestowitz-TR; going to ahve Daily Links soon
12:08 schestowitz-TR; more topics would help, might cover andy's thing too
12:18 techrightssec2; FOSS is useful in mitigating or even reversing the dystopian trends.
12:18 techrightssec2; ^ topic ?
12:19 schestowitz-TR; yes, I will tackle this angle and tell soms of my old stories of "IT dept" in universities
12:19 schestowitz-TR; they were awful in the later years
12:19 schestowitz-TR; flunkies basically
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12:47 techrightssec2; corporate flunkies working against the university, and double handful of
12:47 techrightssec2; resellers too
14:13 techrightssec2; The Manjaro link in "other" shows some persistent misunderstandings,
14:13 techrightssec2; misinformation about the very nature of sw patents. Same for the latest
14:13 techrightssec2; Brodie video in the same batch. Submarine patents are a threat for their
14:13 techrightssec2; entire life cycle and unlike trademarks don't have to be enforced to be
14:13 techrightssec2; kept valid. Like with GIF / LZW a standards-essential patent can be allowed and
14:13 techrightssec2; even encouraged to spread far and wide so as to maximize the amount of money
14:13 techrightssec2; harvested in the shakedown when the patent is enforced for the first time.
14:13 techrightssec2; ^ topic ?
14:13 techrightssec2; (and RMS is right about "IPR" being not only a misnomer but intentionally
14:13 techrightssec2; confusing people on the separate topics)
14:17 schestowitz-TR; thanks, otax3
14:17 psydruid; how do these (western) patents hold up in countries like India, China and Russia?
14:32 schestowitz-TR; icbm lobbying india
14:32 schestowitz-TR; microsoft also
14:32 schestowitz-TR; and using IAM and other rags to shame those countries
14:33 schestowitz-TR; to assimilate
14:49 schestowitz-TR; done, writing now...
14:49 schestowitz-TR; x3
14:49 techrightssec2; ack
14:53 psydruid; I would declare those companies "compania non grata"
14:53 psydruid; they don't do anything for India, but obey their US masters instead
14:58 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I might quote you on that
14:58 schestowitz-TR; made 3 videos
14:58 schestowitz-TR; one about swpats
14:58 schestowitz-TR; i think debian does not play ball because it's not in the US per se
14:59 schestowitz-TR; taking account of SPI and Murdock, it would seem USian
14:59 schestowitz-TR; but many devs are european
15:01 techrightssec2; ack
15:18 schestowitz-TR; draft
15:45 schestowitz-TR; just realised aral went under the radar for months
15:45 schestowitz-TR; added second draft while encoding still happening...
15:53 schestowitz-TR; fediverse = NO GO!
15:53 schestowitz-TR; "I HAVE THINGS TO DO!"
15:53 schestowitz-TR; btw, today I found out "my" bank has a 'web site' that's also "app"
15:53 schestowitz-TR; could not send money with rianne's JS blocker enabled
15:53 schestowitz-TR; it just gave some cryptic error message
15:54 schestowitz-TR; time wasted
15:54 schestowitz-TR; they think MOAR JS = MOAR security
15:54 schestowitz-TR; and the bank wants to allow 13 (!!!!!!) domains to run things!!
15:54 schestowitz-TR; what if one of them sduffered a beach?
15:54 schestowitz-TR; or rogue insider?
15:54 schestowitz-TR; or...
15:54 techrightssec2; I noticed that a while back. He usually posts just past the middle of the month
15:54 techrightssec2; each month.
15:54 techrightssec2; Maybe there is something in the fediverse but that's a javascript-only "app"
15:54 techrightssec2; nowadays
15:57 techrightssec2; If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you
15:57 techrightssec2; If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probably
15:57 techrightssec2; find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/
15:57 techrightssec2; will probably
15:57 techrightssec2; find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/
15:57 techrightssec2; If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probably
15:57 techrightssec2; find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/
15:59 schestowitz-TR; later they drone on and on about "supply chain"
15:59 schestowitz-TR; the real solution is
15:59 schestowitz-TR; as eu puts it
15:59 schestowitz-TR; self-host fonts and the like
15:59 schestowitz-TR; stop bouncing peoople back and forth
15:59 schestowitz-TR; but the people who went to "uni" learned frameworks
15:59 schestowitz-TR; and they lump them in
15:59 schestowitz-TR; that bouncing ball animiation might be a spurious framework
15:59 schestowitz-TR; all sorts of effects whose function does not justify the added risk and bloat
15:59 techrightssec2; Precisely
15:59 schestowitz-TR; that will cause carbon emissions
16:02 techrightssec2; The more javascript is used the more bandwidth is consumed fetching the
16:02 techrightssec2; frameworks and such *and* the more CPU is used on the client. Rather than
16:02 techrightssec2; putting things server side, which can be more efficient overall in some cases,
16:02 techrightssec2; the dogma is to push as much onto the clients as possible.
16:02 schestowitz-TR; edge computing = do things at the client side
16:02 schestowitz-TR; clown computing = outsource everything, send js crap to the client side
16:02 schestowitz-TR; abandoned = take a task and do it at the server end
16:02 schestowitz-TR; they have another term for that, ee.g. "data mining" or "big data" or "data science"
16:02 schestowitz-TR; HEY HI
17:05 techrightssec2; ack
17:31 schestowitz-TR; TM traffic leapt about 20% compared to prior months
17:31 schestowitz-TR; did not check why, does not matter much, but it's an encouraging sign
17:32 schestowitz-TR; good for morale
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