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beginning of new day, October 28

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6 AM, October 28

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7 AM, October 28

07:19 schestowitz-TR2; did I miss anything?

07:53 techrights-sec[2]; nothing missed except a heads up about maintenance##########################

07:53 techrights-sec[2]; startpage, however, had moved to requiring javascript a few days ago and as of

07:53 techrights-sec[2]; today blocks most functionality (at least from GNU/Linux)

07:53 techrights-sec[2]; There were ways past it until a few days ago.

07:53 schestowitz-TR2; weird. I thought it had moved to requiring it like 4-5 years ago

07:53 schestowitz-TR2; quite a day in wall street!

07:54 techrights-sec[2]; I don't follow LARPing or LARPers, so what happened to the LARPers? aka wallstreet

07:55 schestowitz-TR2; companies are re-adjusting to their real value

07:55 schestowitz-TR2; some close shop, accepting their fate

07:56 techrights-sec[2]; closing shop is too good for many of them :(

07:57 schestowitz-TR2; the clown-first company is still firing "azure" workers (it's just a label)

07:58 techrights-sec[2]; That firing should be highlighted, to counter the bullshit they spew about

07:58 techrights-sec[2]; their over-priced, underpowered, unreliable hosting services.

07:58 techrights-sec[2]; Ok

07:58 schestowitz-TR2; I already did a mention of this the other day

07:58 schestowitz-TR2; in TR quick blog post


8 AM, October 28

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08:33 techrights-sec[2]; How much of the "revenue" attributed to azure is simply the result of

08:33 techrights-sec[2]; transferring line items from other parts of the budget?

08:33 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; the problem is, I don't have enough info

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; also,we don't know real numbers

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; laid off, losses

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; the media just parrots liars


9 AM, October 28

09:11 techrights-sec[2]; ack

09:11 techrights-sec[2]; what about these clowns: https://uapi-group.org/

↺ https://uapi-group.org/

09:11 techrights-sec[2]; ?

09:11 techrights-sec[2]; microsoft and amazon == drm

09:11 techrights-sec[2]; automated links are not available today, may take a while

09:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-uapi-group.org | The Linux Userspace API (UAPI) Group | The Linux Userspace API Group

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09:13 schestowitz-TR2; are you rebuiilding a system?

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; that uapi site looks unsavoury

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09:18 schestowitz-TR2; are you rebuiilding a system?

09:18 schestowitz-TR2; that uapi site looks unsavoury

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; BREAKING: trip canceled, aunt covid-positive

09:28 techrights-sec[2]; :(

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09:55 schestowitz; the ticket (rail) is lost, but they can't tell if she travels or not (no "app"), so that's a plaus

09:55 schestowitz; contigency: weekend rider (friday 6am-monday 1am unlimited rides in all stations, starting this evening) https://tfgm.com/public-transport/tram/ticket-prices/zones/4?search=/public-transport/tram/ticket-prices

↺ https://tfgm.com/public-transport/tram/ticket-prices/zones/4?search=/public-transport/tram/ticket-prices

09:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tfgm.com | Tram ticket prices | Transport for Greater Manchester

09:56 schestowitz; the trams are mostly empty in weekends and we can clock about 5 hours on the tram, going places to see places while the weather is mild here (14-16 degrees in daytime)

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09:58 techrights-sec[2]; ack

09:59 schestowitz-TR2; she took days off work, dressed up, tidied up the home etc.

09:59 schestowitz-TR2; so it's a nice fallback (my idea)

09:59 schestowitz-TR2; we'll go to trafford centre area tonight, a new line that only opened recrntly and we never went to


10 AM, October 28

10:01 schestowitz-TR2; when the gov treats covid-19 like something that doesn't matter

10:01 schestowitz-TR2; while (as noted several times in irc yesterday) about 9000 EXTRA deaths are

10:01 schestowitz-TR2; registered in england and wales each month

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11 AM, October 28

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11:10 schestowitz-TR2; checking trails for sat and sun

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; the tram system has about 150 stations

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; this makes it easier to get around

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; even just to nature

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; at a low cost of 6.80pp for 3 days

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; don't want to do much indoors

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; taking advantage of warm winter period

11:10 schestowitz-TR2; so might be afk a lot

11:12 matteobin; I'll be in London in two weeks. I hope the weather will be decent.

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: if you come up north near manchester,let us know

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2]:

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; oh! now I see where ciaran is!

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; from fsf... now "Member for: 1 month" in JOINUP

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; good stuff

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; he looks a lot older now, shaved his head

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; Org: "OpenForum Europe"

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; that's very LF- and ICBM-aligned

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; but at least he still advocated FOSS

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; I see he is active in the joinup site this past month

11:13 schestowitz-TR2; I did wonwder where ha had vanished

11:16 techrights-sec[2]; checking

11:16 techrights-sec[2]; https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/news.xml

↺ https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/news.xml

11:16 techrights-sec[2]; https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/blogs.xml

↺ https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/blogs.xml

11:16 techrights-sec[2]; oh

11:16 techrights-sec[2]; checking joinup now

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; how do you check the site for updates

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; I spke to Gjives of whatever his name was

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; after they had changed drupal and killed off the rss feeds

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; I am trying to find rss feeds at the moment

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; no success so far

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; (I meant joinup, not fsf)

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; fsf has done too little lately

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; but I think due to attacks on them

11:16 schestowitz-TR2; I hope we can prevent the same being done to us one day

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; joinuo

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; page source: no mention of xml, feed, rss

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; there is, however, TWO linked at LINKEDIN at the bottom right

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; yuck!

11:18 schestowitz-TR2; and they seem to be (still) using drupal because it is belgian

11:19 techrights-sec[2]; joinup has no feed, it has to be checked manually:

11:19 techrights-sec[2]; https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_results

↺ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_results

11:19 techrights-sec[2]; Drupal has a feed plugin perhaps if you also write them askingfor it to be

11:19 techrights-sec[2]; added they will add it.

11:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_results )

↺ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_results

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; rianne and I asked (by email) like 8 years ago

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; they said they'd look into it

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; but nothing came out opf it

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; prior to that they had offered rss feeds

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; rianne found stuff and linked to hellenius or whatever his surname was a lot

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; he was reading TM while running JoinUp

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; I've not seen his name for ages

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; ciaran seems quirte active now

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; he did some fine with with rms, focusing on swpats

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; including but not only eu/epo

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; lots of TR overlap

11:22 techrights-sec[2]; They have no contect information though

11:22 techrights-sec[2]; https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022

↺ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022

11:22 techrights-sec[2]; :(

11:22 techrights-sec[2]; They seem to be pushing Slack (the proprietary one not Slack as in Slackware)

11:22 techrights-sec[2]; and M$ Teams and such.

11:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022 )

↺ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; nobody is perfect, there is only one EU. I'd rather ignore this, mock this, and look for the better activity

11:23 schestowitz-TR2; and encourage that with linking

11:23 matteobin; schestowitz-TR2: I'll be only in London for an adventure/narrative games exposition, just a couple of days.

11:24 schestowitz-TR2; i see

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, we don't travel outside manchester these days

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; since 2020

11:25 matteobin; Becuase of COVID?

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; rianne just canceled a trip

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; yes, COVID

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; her aunt told us this morning she contracted it

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; trip canceled

11:25 schestowitz-TR2; yorkshire

11:26 matteobin; I would like to visit York in the future, where there's Revolution Software office.

11:26 matteobin; And then I would love to visit Scotland.

11:27 matteobin; I've been to Ireland, I loved it. I'm not a big city guy. I prefer small rural towns and nature.

11:27 matteobin; Is Manchester very big?

11:28 matteobin; Let me known if you plan to visit Italy/Tuscany.

11:28 schestowitz-TR2; greater manchester is very big

11:28 schestowitz-TR2; we plan to do many trips this weekend

11:28 schestowitz-TR2; it's warn

11:28 schestowitz-TR2; for winter, super-warm

11:29 schestowitz-TR2; rianne took dayys off work, tidies up house etc.

11:29 schestowitz-TR2; for the trip that's now canceled

11:29 schestowitz-TR2; in nature, even walking is nice exercise

11:29 schestowitz-TR2; and lots of trails to check, we're going though a survey of some atm

11:30 matteobin; Nice! I love hiking.

11:30 schestowitz-TR2; but this is a rare chance

11:30 schestowitz-TR2; winter will get cold soon

11:30 schestowitz-TR2; and some leaves are still on some trees

11:30 matteobin; Does Rianne work in IT too?

11:31 schestowitz-TR2; same job and company as me

11:31 matteobin; Here there are not dead leaves yet!

11:31 matteobin; It's like spring.

11:33 schestowitz-TR2; is is north os south?

11:34 schestowitz-TR2; *is it

11:35 matteobin; Centre, I live in Tuscany, near Florence. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/41977

↺ https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/41977

11:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.openstreetmap.org | Relation: Toscana (41977) | OpenStreetMap

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; nice

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; i wish I could live somewhere like this

11:36 schestowitz-TR2; economically it is harder there

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; a close friend of mine was from there before he left manchester

11:37 schestowitz-TR2; gianluca

11:37 matteobin; Where I live? Really? I wouldn't have guessed it. Maybe it's because I've always lived here.

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; his family had worked abroad in dubai

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; but like many students he came here for education

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; was around cambridge last I spoke to him

11:38 matteobin; I like where I live. I really like Italy.

11:38 schestowitz-TR2; did his phd there

11:38 matteobin; Well it's not Dubai, but Tuscany is a great place to live.

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; many italians travel for the money

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; us, uk, even gulf states

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; not sure they find happiness

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; but some find more money

11:39 matteobin; I think life is cheaper than in London.

11:39 schestowitz-TR2; not the same

11:40 schestowitz-TR2; yes, but many high-paying jobs are in the big cities

11:40 schestowitz-TR2; and i reckon milan is very expensive to live in

11:40 schestowitz-TR2; but have not checked

11:40 matteobin; Yeah, sure, in Italy you won't get rich working in IT.

11:40 matteobin; However I would not like to do those jobs that might make you rich.

11:40 schestowitz-TR2; many chase the high salaries and pay a lot of those in rent fees

11:41 matteobin; Milan is a bit more like London.

11:41 schestowitz-TR2; my salary is very small

11:41 schestowitz-TR2; but the job is easy

11:41 matteobin; How much, if I may?

11:41 schestowitz-TR2; 26.5k/year

11:42 techrights-sec[2]; So I guess the shift might be due to hellenius having moved on

11:43 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2]:

11:43 schestowitz-TR2; yes, but he must still be around somewhere. I cannot recall how to sell his name

11:43 schestowitz-TR2; just how it sounds

11:43 schestowitz-TR2; some flemmish

11:46 matteobin; Is that without tax? That's more than I get! :D

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; before tax

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; but tax is not high at those band

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; most of national insurance (health)

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2]:

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; can you confirm new "merged" file compared to previous merged file is just the same sans the automated?

11:47 schestowitz-TR2; (thanks in advance, don't wanna miss anything)

11:47 matteobin; I get about 1400 without tax.

11:47 techrights-sec[2]; yes

11:47 techrights-sec[2]; the new one has the automated links or at least should

11:47 techrights-sec[2]; the old one was missing the links

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: how is the job?

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; hard?

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; challenging?

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; fun?

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; some work from home?

11:48 schestowitz-TR2; nice colleagues?

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11:51 matteobin; The job is easy. Some collegues are nice.

11:51 matteobin; I work from home 3/5 days per week.

11:51 matteobin; I get a lot of time to do my stuff.

11:51 matteobin; But I would like to change it, because it's not ethical.

11:51 schestowitz-TR2; good

11:51 matteobin; It's hard to get GNU jobs in Italy.

11:51 schestowitz-TR2; sounds simialr to me

11:52 matteobin; I'm not interested in money very much.

11:52 matteobin; I would like to make 1500/1600 oer month, but that's about it.

11:52 schestowitz-TR2; which part of the job do you deem unethical?

11:52 schestowitz-TR2; I was planning to leave my jobs this year

11:52 matteobin; All of it! :D

11:52 schestowitz-TR2; and had big arguments with my bosses

11:52 schestowitz-TR2; but they became quite apologetic

11:52 matteobin; I am a full stack web developer.

11:52 schestowitz-TR2; so for now I'm still there

11:53 matteobin; We make crap websites with WordPress and we develop a web management software.

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2]:

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; todo (notes): find out wth is going on with 1) layoffs at MSFT 2) losses (WHICH divisions? what they hide...)

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; until I know what's "open secret" a video or article would be of little value IMHO

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; when I researched this a week ago I found out azure had layoffs again

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; and some insider said they had FOUR waves of layoffs this year

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; but that is not verified (by me)

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; seems like 'hearsay'

11:53 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: wordpress is not too bad

11:54 matteobin; We use a lot of Microsoft stuff.

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; which part is not ethical?

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; ah

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft stuff

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; I refuse to do that

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; some charity in africa wanted me to volunteer

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; and then I found out it was loads of microsoft crap

11:54 schestowitz-TR2; and bailed out

11:55 matteobin; Well it wouldn't be too bad if we weren't using visual composers full of shit JS.

11:55 schestowitz-TR2; that is what wordpress has become

11:55 schestowitz-TR2; in recent vesrsions, starting ariund v4.x

11:55 schestowitz-TR2; reactjs and crap

11:56 matteobin; I have to use Windows because of our core business.

11:56 schestowitz-TR2; that sucks

11:56 matteobin; Most of our software runs on Windows, crappy management software.

11:57 matteobin; Sometimes I make customisations to those.

11:57 matteobin; It's a compromise.

11:57 schestowitz-TR2; I'd like to have offered a referral for you

11:57 schestowitz-TR2; but I don't know companies that hire atm

11:57 schestowitz-TR2; I know many that shrink

11:57 schestowitz-TR2; let me put it like this

11:57 schestowitz-TR2; 2020: many jobs work from home

11:58 schestowitz-TR2; 2021: businesses reopening, temptation to leave

11:58 matteobin; At least I dual boot Debian and they know I'm very versed in Free Software.

11:58 schestowitz-TR2; 2022: businesses collapsing

11:58 schestowitz-TR2; so even all those "work from home" jobs are getting harder to find again

11:58 matteobin; It's no problem really. It's hard for all of us FOSS guys. I'll manage to find something else.

11:58 matteobin; Thanks anyway. :)

11:58 schestowitz-TR2; set aside how they want to herd workers back into "offices" (cages of metal and glass)

11:59 matteobin; There are good things about my job too.

11:59 matteobin; You are right. The next years will surely be interesting.


noon, October 28

12:00 schestowitz-TR2; yes, and inflation...

12:00 schestowitz-TR2; it's getting harder to find discounts, even though we're very good at it

12:05 techrights-sec[2]; ack

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12:21 matteobin; Lunch!

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12:54 schestowitz-TR2; very interetsed in news about twitter

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; I know from the inside only as a user

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; seeing it collapse is like watching the scene of an accident

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; can't look away

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; reminds me a lot of lee coming to "save" freenode

12:54 schestowitz-TR2; for "free speech"

12:55 techrights-sec[2]; ack

12:55 schestowitz-TR2; Twitter is going to die ... soon (already getting a LOT smaller) https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/27/why-is-elon-musk-taking-twitter-private/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/27/why-is-elon-musk-taking-twitter-private/

12:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Why is Elon Musk Taking Twitter Private? - scheerpost.com

12:57 techrights-sec[2]; one can hope that musk accelerates that event

12:58 schestowitz-TR2; "hurry up, you SOB!"


1 PM, October 28

13:26 techrights-sec[2]; ack

13:39 schestowitz-TR2; Desperation? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/we-need-you-in-our-corner/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/we-need-you-in-our-corner/

13:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-We Need You in Our Corner - CounterPunch.org

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; I feel like they still do a decent job

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; even better than commondreams

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; which I checked in the is site

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; you asked about fsf

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; I think better save the money for our own needs

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; so that like counterpunch we can reach 28 years

13:41 schestowitz-TR2; 2035

13:49 techrights-sec[2]; ack

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; to put it bluntly

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; fsf nmeeds to start some actual campaigns

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; not use the money it collects to just pay the salary to the people who fail to start very important

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; campaigns

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; I can think of a dozen diffeent issues on which an fsf campaign would help

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; even just by virtue of existing on the site

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; Ihave not seen a highpriorityu list of project on the fsf site for eyars

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; what they do all day long... I don't know


2 PM, October 28

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14:25 techrights-sec[2]; ack

14:25 techrights-sec[2]; They can't ride on past glory very long if at all

14:25 techrights-sec[2]; longer

14:25 techrights-sec[2]; They've already given every appearance of coasting for a while now.

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; every campaign will

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; make you allies

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; make you enemies

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; that's just how it is

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; becoming indebted to people's will can paralyse

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; i remember bad vista or "7 sins"

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; and how a few people online said fsf had gone "negative"

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; since then there has been too soft an attitude

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; also dbd (formerly by jgay) is mute

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; not sure what to say except,

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; do something

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; not moving anywhere makes one stagnant

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; they do need to piss off some people

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; I think it was a mattl idea (rms foe) to send hdd to microsoft

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; to ask for windows code

14:31 schestowitz-TR2; it was a dumb stunt imho

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; what message might that send?

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; "fsf wants to set windows free?"

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; btw, geddit (the reddit of gemini) has put links to techrights under the news section

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; pretty amazing given the context

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; we're like one of only 4, and the others are msm gateways

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; geedit is a big deal

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; i only noticed last night

14:40 schestowitz; > Hi Roy,

14:40 schestowitz; >

14:40 schestowitz; > This morning, Garmin announced victory in a patent lawsuit brought by

14:40 schestowitz; > Logantree LP in Kansas federal court. After three days of testimony, the

14:40 schestowitz; > jury found that Garmins popular smartwatches did not use any of

14:40 schestowitz; > Logantrees allegedly patented technology.

14:40 schestowitz; >

14:40 schestowitz; > A full press release including a comment from Garmin General Counsel

14:40 schestowitz; > Andrew Etkind is attached.

14:40 schestowitz; >

14:40 schestowitz; > Thank you,

14:42 schestowitz; ---------

14:52 techrights-sec[2]; ack


3 PM, October 28

15:13 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft is a clown-first company. This week: the clown ain't performing. Just bear with us as we try hard to find MOAR things to RE-classify as "CLOWN"

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4 PM, October 28

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16:11 techrights-sec[2]; They'll have to continue to spin the losses in their clown division as something

16:11 techrights-sec[2]; other than what they really are: losses. Twenty years ago the world laughed at

16:11 techrights-sec[2]; them for having advertising as their single largest line item. They quickly

16:11 techrights-sec[2]; rewrote the next report to hide that by distributing the advertising budget

16:11 techrights-sec[2]; throughout the other line items, so advertising in effect is still their

16:11 techrights-sec[2]; main business, after lobbying.

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; haha, they are NOT losses

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; THey are INVESTINGF!!!

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; be patient

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; like all those SF 'startups'

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; they are stats... waiting to be "discovered"

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; *stars

16:11 schestowitz-TR2; mitchell wrote that the most money gopes to advertising and shows recent numbers

16:12 schestowitz-TR2; mitchel

16:32 techrights-sec[2]; ack

16:32 schestowitz-TR2; leaving home in an hour, priority is cleaning up rss

16:32 schestowitz-TR2; going t

16:32 schestowitz-TR2; o trafford centre

16:32 techrights-sec[2]; have a good excursion

16:32 techrights-sec[2]; .

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16:46 schestowitz-TR2; of course fsf took advantage of something sort of big happening at twitter

16:46 schestowitz-TR2; to tell people to get OFF twitter

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16:52 techrights-sec[2]; ack

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5 PM, October 28

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6 PM, October 28

18:08 psydruid; as a "reason" for asking for supporting thunderbird I've mentioned (to microsoft) they've broken support for it

18:08 psydruid; what this article and video are about gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/index.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/index.gmi

18:09 psydruid; it's complete shambles, because now I can't get e-mails out of that system

18:09 psydruid; it's all webmail now

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7 PM, October 28

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10 PM, October 28

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; psydruid: you cannot even keep your data ^_^

22:13 schestowitz-TR2; you are on rental

22:14 psydruid; they implemented this in july

22:15 psydruid; not even asking questions or implementing an e-mail server of their own

22:15 psydruid; as if microsoft's take on e-mail is the last word


11 PM, October 28

23:10 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586096838708318209#m

↺ https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586096838708318209#m

23:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-MSServices Global (@MSServices_info): "The villain has made a statement Understanding #ThierryBreton : Looking back epilogue #EuropeanUnion #ThierryBreton #EU #Twitter #Europe #USA #America http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.it

http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.it

23:11 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586077162335240192#m

↺ https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586077162335240192#m

23:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-MSServices Global (@MSServices_info): "Thierry Breton; Say no more! The truth behind a genuine villain. #ThierryBreton #EuropeanUnion #Europe #France #USA #Twitter #ELONMUSK http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.it

http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.it

23:11 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/HeyoMinion/status/1586054146230480898#m

↺ https://nitter.it/HeyoMinion/status/1586054146230480898#m

23:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fink (@HeyoMinion): "techrights.org/2019/11/19/in"|nitter.it

23:11 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/anarchotaoist/status/1585936828242305025#m

↺ https://nitter.it/anarchotaoist/status/1585936828242305025#m

23:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nrcHo-toiSt (@anarchotaoist): "techrights.org/2022/10/26/wh"|nitter.it

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