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beginning of new day, June 28

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4 AM, June 28

04:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 Patients in English Hospitals, June 2022 (More Than Doubled in Under 4 Weeks) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/28/english-hospitals-june-2022/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/28/english-hospitals-june-2022/

04:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Patients in English Hospitals, June 2022 (More Than Doubled in Under 4 Weeks)

04:57 schestowitz-TR; the gemini section I added does not produce valid xhtml

04:57 schestowitz-TR; because the header element has a link inside it

04:57 schestowitz-TR; should weadd a very short verbal description inline instead?


6 AM, June 28

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08:19 Techrights-sec2; the link should be moved outside of the head element so that it can be

08:19 Techrights-sec2; made valid, well-formed XHTML

08:19 Techrights-sec2; that is a necessary prereqisite for automated parsing

08:21 schestowitz-TR; I have just checked the gemini version of daily links

08:21 schestowitz-TR; it could be parsed correctly

08:21 schestowitz-TR; same for the other scripts

08:21 schestowitz-TR; but the validator dislikes the url inside Hx

08:21 schestowitz-TR; I am thinking whether we shold instead put an asterisk there and then move the link to the bottom somewhere, along with some text

08:28 Techrights-sec2; there are a lot of validation errors in Links/template.html

08:28 Techrights-sec2; ok

08:29 schestowitz-TR; when I finish work in 30 mins (last shift this time, after 4 in a row) I will record a rebuttal to bastian

08:29 schestowitz-TR; best

08:29 schestowitz-TR; you can see the draft in wordpress

08:32 Techrights-sec2; ok

08:32 Techrights-sec2; s/mentios/mentions/

08:32 Techrights-sec2; while the statement about hurting all developers is accurate, the scope of the

08:32 Techrights-sec2; damage is actually much wider. Because patents govern /usage/ it is not just

08:32 Techrights-sec2; the developers who are affected. Indee the case might even be made that

08:32 Techrights-sec2; developers are less affected. The people really hurt by the software patents

08:32 Techrights-sec2; are those that wish to actually use the software, again because software

08:32 Techrights-sec2; patents govern usage and not distribution

08:32 Techrights-sec2; no need to quote directly, just refine the relevant paragraph to continue on to

08:32 Techrights-sec2; point the above out, after the part there about developers

08:32 schestowitz-TR; (fixed typo)

08:32 schestowitz-TR; will add your iunsight

08:32 schestowitz-TR; will work to improve template over time, as we do lots of batches these days, so well worth the investment imho

08:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Are COVID-19-Linked Arrhythmias Caused by Viral Damage to the Hearts Pacemaker Cells? | Newsroom | Weill Cornell Medicine https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2022/04/are-covid-19-linked-arrhythmias-caused-by-viral-damage-to-the-hearts-pacemaker-cells Source: news

↺ https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2022/04/are-covid-19-linked-arrhythmias-caused-by-viral-damage-to-the-hearts-pacemaker-cells

08:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.weill.cornell.edu | Are COVID-19-Linked Arrhythmias Caused by Viral Damage to the Hearts Pacemaker Cells? | Newsroom | Weill Cornell Medicine

08:36 schestowitz-TR; I prefer to quote other people's ideas so as to not mix them with mine

08:36 schestowitz-TR; usually anonymously

08:36 schestowitz-TR; it's also good if people sense that the post is the product of multiple minds, not the mind of some "lone wolf "extremist"

08:36 schestowitz-TR; I wonder what EPO PR/management tell the media about me... behind my back

08:38 Techrights-sec2; ack

08:38 Techrights-sec2; the capture of the #swpats "hashtag" is problematic

08:38 schestowitz-TR; yeah, I am sure it was him, but so so long ago that proving it now would be hard

08:38 schestowitz-TR; zoobab might remember the details better

08:45 Techrights-sec2; it's hard to know at the time what needs to be documented and even if it is

08:45 Techrights-sec2; documented, retrieving that documentation is a difficult task

08:46 schestowitz-TR; is it correct that today's daily links are just 2 manually curated ones under civil rights?

08:46 schestowitz-TR; and 2 other links"

08:46 schestowitz-TR; meh, sky changing the topic to BS again... old trick of ruling class

08:48 Techrights-sec2; about the news in general, there is a lot of spin on many topics

08:48 Techrights-sec2; such as recently in the US a truck got onto the train tracks and blocked

08:48 Techrights-sec2; a speeding train, yet the headlines everywhere proclaim a train crash or that

08:48 Techrights-sec2; the /train/ hit a truck

08:48 Techrights-sec2; yes

08:48 Techrights-sec2; sky is a garbage site, a news disservice

08:48 Techrights-sec2; it will probably be possible to scrounge up more links in today's cycle

08:48 Techrights-sec2; as for the headlines, similar for walking or biking. Neither are even remotely

08:48 Techrights-sec2; dangerous activities until you add car drivers to the mix

08:48 Techrights-sec2; Then the headlines make it sound like it was the act of walking or bicycling

08:48 Techrights-sec2; which was dangerous rather than the inattentiveness or recklessness of the car

08:48 Techrights-sec2; driver

08:48 Techrights-sec2; Even worse for headlines for articles about police in the US shooting people.

08:48 Techrights-sec2; There was one convoluted headline for one where a police shot himself while

08:48 Techrights-sec2; trying to kill a dog. Some refer to it as the 'exonerative tense'

08:52 schestowitz-TR; I once saw footage of cops executing a dog

08:52 schestowitz-TR; I still remember it because it's particularly disturbing

08:52 schestowitz-TR; the dog doesn't even understand what's happening and tries to move in vain

08:52 schestowitz-TR; imagfine the scarring this leaves in the mind of the dogs' lovers

08:52 schestowitz-TR; ("owners")

08:55 Techrights-sec2; yes the dogs walk towards the cops with the tongue out and tail wagging -- bam

08:55 Techrights-sec2; sometimes as the cops pass through multiple backyards they shoot the dog in

08:55 Techrights-sec2; each yard and they get to it

08:55 Techrights-sec2; it's part of the harassment and degrading treatment of regular citizens

08:55 Techrights-sec2; and part of the "1*" ideology that turns them into a hostile, occupying force

08:56 schestowitz-TR; worst case scenario they get sued and either the victim loses more money or the TAXPAYERS

08:56 schestowitz-TR; pay compensation for the astrocity

08:56 schestowitz-TR; (my sister wants to leave already, not been even a year)

08:58 Techrights-sec2; yes the money comes from the tax coffers not from the criminals

08:58 Techrights-sec2; she should get out while it is still relatively easy

08:58 Techrights-sec2; however, if the situation is not fought decisively, social control media and

08:58 Techrights-sec2; "television" -- to include Netflix and such -- along with degraded educational

08:58 Techrights-sec2; systems will import the same problems into the remaining civilized parts of

08:58 Techrights-sec2; Europe

08:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe she thought that as a tourist in good spots she knew the place as a resident


9 AM, June 28

09:00 schestowitz-TR; btw, dfc might be getting evicted without noticed

09:00 schestowitz-TR; *notice

09:00 schestowitz-TR; shocking, you will see details in irc logs

09:00 schestowitz-TR; unreal, if true...

09:02 Techrights-sec2; yep

09:02 Techrights-sec2; checking IRC

09:03 schestowitz-TR; life in Murica: PTSD without the war, mental breakdown without the anti-depressants

09:03 schestowitz-TR; they will get him contemplating again... unless it boils down to a major error

09:03 schestowitz-TR; he needs to wait 8 hours to phone the landlord

09:03 schestowitz-TR; for IRC you need to check gemini or the tail for circa 4am gmt

09:04 Techrights-sec2; ok checking

09:04 Techrights-sec2; fighting an eviction can drag the process out by up to 60 days iirc about the US

09:05 schestowitz-TR; and then you become unwanted tenant, which isn't great either

09:05 schestowitz-TR; with a deadline for the end of term

09:06 Techrights-sec2; but yeah dealing with it via a proper phone call during business hours is

09:06 Techrights-sec2; the best start towards defusing the situation, as you wrote he does not want

09:06 Techrights-sec2; a conflict with the guy even if he "wins"

09:07 schestowitz-TR; with his technical skills, dfc could be vastly better off

09:07 schestowitz-TR; but he is not conformist

09:07 Techrights-sec2; ack

09:08 schestowitz-TR; Gruber said the most influential scholars from France, who inspired US intellectuals,

09:08 schestowitz-TR; would never be tentured

09:08 schestowitz-TR; I think the same might be true to the UK I know in 2000s

09:08 schestowitz-TR; "business development"

09:08 schestowitz-TR; as a university job title

09:09 schestowitz-TR; f* offffffff.....

09:09 schestowitz-TR; *tenured

09:09 Techrights-sec2; yes the mission of higher education has been quite thoroughly derailed,

09:09 Techrights-sec2; one vechicle for that has been the Bologna Agreement, that's a race to the

09:09 Techrights-sec2; bottom

09:10 schestowitz-TR; brb, 10 mins late to hang over to colleague

09:10 Techrights-sec2; ack

09:18 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Purism sounds like Microsoft LOBBYISTS NOW!! "Big Tech companies like Apple, Google, and Facebook" https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-challenge-big-tech-with-privacy-first-alternatives/

↺ https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-challenge-big-tech-with-privacy-first-alternatives/

09:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-puri.sm | How to Challenge Big Tech with Privacy-First Alternatives Purism

09:35 Techrights-sec2; ack

09:43 schestowitz; http://munich.suepo.org/reminder_demonstration_on_wednesday_29_june_at_12_30_in_front_of_the_isar_building/d-48171

↺ http://munich.suepo.org/reminder_demonstration_on_wednesday_29_june_at_12_30_in_front_of_the_isar_building/d-48171

09:43 schestowitz; |

09:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-munich.suepo.org |

09:43 schestowitz; SUEPO Munich invites all staff to demonstrate on Wednesday 29 June 2022 (the first day of the 171th session of the Administrative Council) at 12.30h in front of the Isar building.

09:43 schestowitz; Mr Campinos hopes that his Mobility Package (CA/32/22 Rev. 1) introducing seconded national experts posts for the delegations will guarantee him a re-election for a second mandate. In a letter sent on 10 June, SUEPO warned the delegations of the decentralisation risks and the requirement of a Conference of Ministers under Article 4a EPC.

09:43 schestowitz; The Technologia survey 2022 results are now available and disastrous for Mr Campinos. In this letter sent on 23 June to the Heads of Delegations, SUEPO urges the Council to take due account of the results and to give the proper mandate to EPO management to repair the situation.

09:43 schestowitz; Come to the demonstration to show the Administrative Council and the rest of the world that there can be no peace at the Office with a President who protects and pursues the Battistelli attacks on staff rights, who orchestrates a flawed Financial Study, who refuses to invest in younger employees who are the future of the EPO, who pushes for a decentralisation of the EPO to serve his re-election and who is unable to conduct social dialogue.

09:43 schestowitz; This paper gives further contextualized information about the current situation.

09:43 schestowitz; SUEPO Munic

09:43 schestowitz; "

09:48 schestowitz-TR; ota (bastian best)

09:48 Techrights-sec2; ack


11 AM, June 28

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noon, June 28

12:03 schestowitz-TR; rianne checked blood pressure etc. so I took the opportunity to check mine too

12:03 schestowitz-TR; after covid-19 we try not to visit a gp if we can avoid it

12:03 schestowitz-TR; that's another covert effect of the pandemic on people's health

12:03 schestowitz-TR; you risk getting infected... or not getting treated

12:03 schestowitz-TR; my sister tells me many of her friends who avoided covid-19 are now

12:03 schestowitz-TR; getting it

12:03 schestowitz-TR; there's no attempt at insulkation anymore, but post-infection treatments

12:03 schestowitz-TR; will improve over time

12:03 schestowitz-TR; so imho the longer you can avoid it, the better

12:03 schestowitz-TR; rates of mortality go down over time for a number of reasons

12:03 schestowitz-TR; the patent cartel-sponsored media hypes up "vaccines"

12:03 schestowitz-TR; as if that's the sole factor

12:13 Techrights-sec2; as of a few months ago it started spreading through the schools and then

12:13 Techrights-sec2; home from the schools

12:14 schestowitz-TR; I keep hearing of the kids as the original carriers

12:33 Techrights-sec2; ack

12:34 schestowitz-TR; my mom got it a second time through the grandson

12:34 schestowitz-TR; she will never learn...

12:34 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I think this is a darwin test

12:34 schestowitz-TR; but..

12:34 schestowitz-TR; this one is unfair

12:34 schestowitz-TR; as poor people cannot isolate themselves or accesss decent health care

12:34 schestowitz-TR; some cannot even get vaccinated at all

12:41 Techrights-sec2; yes and each time causes different damage, apparently

12:41 schestowitz-TR; it still mutates, but who's keeping up anymore?

12:41 schestowitz-TR; "let the bodies pile up high'

12:46 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "the FAA and the FCC (the agency that actually knows how spectrum works) had gotten into a bit of an ugly tussle over the FAAs claim that 5G could harm air travel safety." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/verizon-att-delay-5g-due-to-ongoing-scuff-up-over-airplane-interference/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/27/verizon-att-delay-5g-due-to-ongoing-scuff-up-over-airplane-interference/

12:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Verizon, AT&T Delay 5G Due To Ongoing Scuff Up Over Airplane Interference | Techdirt

12:46 Techrights-sec2; bojo the clown is still in office and the press helps distract from both

12:46 Techrights-sec2; his abject failures and rotten scandals

12:52 schestowitz; click MAX in https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt and https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt

12:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tradingeconomics.com | United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt Ex Banks - May 2022 Data - 1975-2021 Historical

12:52 schestowitz; click MAX in https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt and https://tradingeconomics.com/france/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/france/government-debt

12:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tradingeconomics.com | France General Government Debt - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 1995-2021 Historical

12:54 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

12:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tradingeconomics.com | Germany Public Debt - 2022 Data - 2023 Forecast - 1995-2021 Historical - Chart - News

12:56 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

12:56 schestowitz-TR; ~84 ml citizens, extrapolated to US pop' it's about 10 trillion

12:56 schestowitz-TR; USA is now at 31 trillion

12:56 schestowitz-TR; trebled debt in just a decade

12:56 schestowitz-TR; or 10 fold since little Bush

12:56 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

12:56 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt

12:56 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical

12:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt - May 2022 Data - 1942-2021 Historical - June Forecast

12:57 Techrights-sec2; ack

12:58 Techrights-sec2; the debt is the currency nowadays


1 PM, June 28

13:17 schestowitz-TR; Tories https://www.desmog.com/2022/06/27/climate-denial-funder-set-to-become-tory-peer/ | Source: DeSmog

↺ https://www.desmog.com/2022/06/27/climate-denial-funder-set-to-become-tory-peer/

13:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Climate Denial Funder Set to Become Tory Peer - DeSmog

13:22 Techrights-sec2; :(

13:22 Techrights-sec2; a most inappropriate appointment there

13:24 schestowitz-TR; I don't see youngesters here who deny climate change

13:24 schestowitz-TR; in fact, it's quite a fringe opinion

13:24 schestowitz-TR; but that too can be imported, esp. online

13:24 schestowitz-TR; with all this tiktok and stuff

13:24 schestowitz-TR; stupiddity transcends borders

13:44 Techrights-sec2; tiktok is surely working on that :/

13:48 Techrights-sec2; cultural appropriation : https://www.theverge.com/23132752/viking-weaponry-monetize-youtube-twitch-etsy

↺ https://www.theverge.com/23132752/viking-weaponry-monetize-youtube-twitch-etsy

13:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Meet the Viking merchants of the internet - The Verge

13:50 schestowitz-TR; next up: "open source" sex toys with the name "Linux" on them and a photograph of Torvalds on the cardboard packaging

13:50 schestowitz-TR; approved by inaction by "Linux" Foundation

13:50 schestowitz-TR; maybe that NYC transvestite can be in the commerciasl for it

13:50 schestowitz-TR; "yes, mom, Linux the OS, not Linux the dildo..."

13:51 Techrights-sec2; Morningstar has also hit some bumps along the way, which further compounds her point about passion superseding all else. While she is able to earn money f

13:51 Techrights-sec2; rom her craft, her revenue streams are more limited than most. She no longer earns any income from YouTube or TikTok her guess is that this is because o

13:51 Techrights-sec2; f how she dresses although still sees the platforms as valuable ways to advertise her other work streams like commercial smithing and modeling.

13:51 Techrights-sec2; :/

13:51 Techrights-sec2; don't joke too much, they might do that


2 PM, June 28

14:21 Techrights-sec2; fwiw https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9523-internet_of_dongs

↺ https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9523-internet_of_dongs

14:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-media.ccc.de - Internet of Dongs

14:21 schestowitz-TR; internet iof things attached to dumb people

14:35 Techrights-sec2; yep

14:35 Techrights-sec2; note the wording, even in the French publications:

14:35 Techrights-sec2; https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20220627-three-killed-dozens-injured-in-amtrak-train-derailment-in-missouri

↺ https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20220627-three-killed-dozens-injured-in-amtrak-train-derailment-in-missouri

14:35 Techrights-sec2; its like the train was at fault there that the truck was blocking the tracks,

14:35 Techrights-sec2; if one goes from the headline and summary

14:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.france24.com | Three killed, dozens injured in Amtrak train derailment in Missouri

14:37 schestowitz-TR; good alerting systems issue alerts to the approaching train before the gates are closed

14:37 schestowitz-TR; and so it can start the brakes earlier

14:37 schestowitz-TR; france24 is part of a pipe of publishers

14:37 schestowitz-TR; they go with similar scripts to save money, iirc

14:37 schestowitz-TR; afp maybe not

14:39 schestowitz-TR; [14:26] <DaemonFC> Schestowitz-3, My landlord laughed and said that when they were setting up their account on those websites years back, it was 102 that was open.

14:39 schestowitz-TR; [14:26] <DaemonFC> So now whenever they have units here, it lists them as 102 on the site.

14:39 schestowitz-TR; [14:26] <Schestowitz-3> phew

14:39 schestowitz-TR; [14:27] <DaemonFC> He said he does have two units in the building open, but they're 202 and one over on the other side of the building.

14:41 Techrights-sec2; ack

14:41 Techrights-sec2; sounds like a typo

14:41 schestowitz-TR; typos that can ruin a night's sleep


3 PM, June 28

15:26 schestowitz-TR; abortyion everywhere in the news this week and now also in the main IRC channel

15:26 schestowitz-TR; leading to arguments over irrelevant topic

15:26 schestowitz-TR; of course michael activelow changed names again

15:26 schestowitz-TR; I can spot him before he even utters a word

15:26 Techrights-sec2; yes

15:26 Techrights-sec2; saturate, diffuse, confuse

15:28 schestowitz-TR; this is "kill [that aussie prime minister]" moment

15:28 schestowitz-TR; (Murdoch)

15:28 schestowitz-TR; or Tso

15:28 schestowitz-TR; where people talk about types of rape

15:28 schestowitz-TR; and vasectony

15:28 schestowitz-TR; I'll stay away from that channel for now and get other things done

15:50 Techrights-sec2; ack

15:50 Techrights-sec2; x https://intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/intellectual-property-metaverse-episode-iii-patents-2022-05-30_en

↺ https://intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/intellectual-property-metaverse-episode-iii-patents-2022-05-30_en

15:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu | Intellectual Property in the Metaverse. Episode III: Patents


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5 PM, June 28

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17:16 schestowitz-TR; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/new-car-quality-declined-11percent-blame-supply-chain-problems-jd-power.html

↺ https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/new-car-quality-declined-11percent-blame-supply-chain-problems-jd-power.html

17:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | New car quality declined 11%, blame supply chain problems: J.D. Power

17:16 schestowitz-TR; [17:14] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.cnbc.com | New car quality declined 11%, blame supply chain problems: J.D. Power

17:16 Techrights-sec2; ack

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22:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> CISA has, in effect, become a mouthpiece of Microsoft or infiltrated by Microsoft moles https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/28/cisa-releases-guidance-swi<techrights-news> CISA has, in effect, become a mouthpiece of Microsoft or infiltrated by Microsoft moles https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/28/cisa-releases-guidance-switching-modern-auth-exchange-onlinetching-modern-auth-exchange-

↺ https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/28/cisa-releases-guidance-swi<techrights-news>

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