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beginning of new day, April 28

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08:36 Techrights-sec; More grumbling: LXD pushes Snaps: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/

↺ https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/

08:36 Techrights-sec; Are there any month-by-month statistics about Gemini's growth?

08:36 Techrights-sec; https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/

↺ https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/

08:36 Techrights-sec; "Project sponsored by Canonical Ltd."

08:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - Getting started

08:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxcontainers.org | Linux Containers - LXD - Introduction

08:39 schestowitz-TR; for month-to-month stats on gemini see botond's capsule

08:39 schestowitz-TR; I've just checked backup gz files again, all fine

08:43 schestowitz-TR; I think I might do a video about the lunduke thin

08:43 schestowitz-TR; *thing

08:43 schestowitz-TR; since I set up a job to test the integrity of gz file I never saw an error, so I've just checked

08:43 schestowitz-TR; manually in case I miss something

08:44 Techrights-sec; ack

08:44 Techrights-sec; for the most part, he's been off his rocker for at least a year

08:46 schestowitz-TR; to be fair to him,. he has a family to feed, his profession is dying (publishers,

08:46 schestowitz-TR; gulagtube etc.), and there's this pandemic thing

08:46 schestowitz-TR; that he cannot keep cool is a weakness

08:46 schestowitz-TR; he did say some self-discrediting things

08:46 schestowitz-TR; and he keeps making promises he cannot keep

08:46 Techrights-sec; yes, even when giving him a lot of slack for getting money to feed his family

08:46 Techrights-sec; I'd still have to say that he's been off his rocker

08:51 Techrights-sec; can't or just plain doesn't

08:51 Techrights-sec; :(


9 AM, April 28

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09:14 schestowitz-TR; irc post for today?

09:14 schestowitz-TR; (side note: today I tried to make a mental list of 4 thing to do, which was a mistaker, as even though

09:14 schestowitz-TR; I did 4 things I cannot be entirely sure it was these things; so better to not even make the mental

09:14 schestowitz-TR; lists: something like post bulletin, post irc, catch up with chat, and check daily links. I used to put in the palm

09:14 schestowitz-TR; pda a "checkllist" of sorts, but that became more of a burden over time, so I stopped years ago)

09:14 Techrights-sec; checkig

09:16 schestowitz-TR; I think at the end it is,

09:16 schestowitz-TR; 1) either write things down

09:16 schestowitz-TR; 2) or don't make any lists at all, use intuition

09:16 schestowitz-TR; either way, the truly important things are likely written down already, in any case

09:17 Techrights-sec; posting of links can happen any time but posting of IRC logs can only happen

09:17 Techrights-sec; after they've been prepared, so the two activities cannot be paired

09:17 Techrights-sec; one of the problems is that it becomes rote and done witout thought and thus

09:17 Techrights-sec; is not thought about; it is overdue for automation but that is contingent

09:17 Techrights-sec; upon the OS upgrade ...

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09:17 schestowitz-TR; and probably CMS change, too

09:18 schestowitz-TR; the gemini side of IRC logs is automated and never gets it wrong when I check (which is rare)

09:19 Techrights-sec; Gemini is handled on an uptodate OS

09:19 Techrights-sec; more / better / relevant tools are available there

09:20 schestowitz-TR; noptice how gemini always updates OK on its own following changes made with tc, some cleanup of stale

09:20 schestowitz-TR; processes etc.

09:20 schestowitz-TR; I've not even had to log in for a week

09:31 schestowitz-TR; I've decided to do the video about lunduke later today along with the EPO video

09:31 schestowitz-TR; as it's faster when several are done in a row

09:31 schestowitz-TR; I don't plan to cover gemini much anymore

09:31 schestowitz-TR; it's still growing and there's lots I can just link to, instead

09:40 Techrights-sec; ack

09:42 schestowitz-TR; maybe the key message is,

09:42 schestowitz-TR; if you want to support Gemini then,

09:42 schestowitz-TR; a) use it

09:42 schestowitz-TR; b) link to it

09:42 schestowitz-TR; (b) follows (a) and (b) helps people learn about gemini because it they stmble upon gemini://

09:42 schestowitz-TR; link and want to open it, then they must learn something new

09:46 Techrights-sec; more importantly, at this point in time, would be packaging for key distros

09:46 Techrights-sec; of the Gemini clients; that is the next step

09:46 Techrights-sec; it cannot grow beyond the niche it has without being accessible to normal

09:46 Techrights-sec; GNU/Linux and BSD users

09:47 schestowitz-TR; at the moment a lot of gnu/linux and bsd users are technical

09:47 schestowitz-TR; you could argue that growth can come through "mobile"

09:47 schestowitz-TR; even if that sucks

09:47 schestowitz-TR; seeing articles about mastodon, i wonder if the message should still be

09:47 schestowitz-TR; just abandon social control media completely

09:47 Techrights-sec; there's technical and then there's bleeding edge; both can agtee that it is

09:47 Techrights-sec; not appropriate to require people to build from source and update from source

09:47 Techrights-sec; in the context of average software

09:47 Techrights-sec; I would say yes, that social control media in all its forms should be

09:47 Techrights-sec; avoided for many reasons

09:49 schestowitz-TR; other links/daily links no longer contain those

09:49 schestowitz-TR; and NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST

09:49 schestowitz-TR; if they have something important to say, they will blog about it

09:49 schestowitz-TR; and if it can be summed up in one sentence alone

09:49 schestowitz-TR; then it's likely not of much value

09:49 schestowitz-TR; and might not be verifiaable, which is likely the more important aspect

09:49 Techrights-sec; especially since none of the articles truly explain the federated nature of

09:49 Techrights-sec; Mastodon and even then the blacklists are automated and centralized anyway

09:49 Techrights-sec; Yes, blogging is the way to go

09:50 schestowitz-TR; The Web we Lost - Anil Dash (article, talks etc.) [citation]


10 AM, April 28

10:00 schestowitz-TR; wow, lxer links to techrights today and the traffic is like... nothing.

10:00 schestowitz-TR; yeah, don't smile too fast

10:00 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I also saw 3 links from reddit

10:00 schestowitz-TR; same, no traffic

10:00 schestowitz-TR; it's becoming like traffic in twitter

10:00 schestowitz-TR; or casinos and gambling in the street or arcade tokens

10:00 schestowitz-TR; they show you the "success stories" (like front page)

10:00 schestowitz-TR; of jackpots

10:00 schestowitz-TR; but for 99% of more it's nothing but a dream

10:00 schestowitz-TR; false marketing

10:00 schestowitz-TR; some people join twitter for "activism"

10:00 schestowitz-TR; because they saw Daily Mail something...

10:00 Techrights-sec; :)

10:00 Techrights-sec; :(

10:00 Techrights-sec; So lxer is much smaller than it used to be

10:00 Techrights-sec; they promote those statistical anomalies as if they were the rule and not the

10:00 Techrights-sec; exception

10:00 Techrights-sec; Notice also that Facebook and the others only get 'growth' coverage and

10:00 Techrights-sec; mostly only positive articles, to help keep them afloat

10:03 schestowitz-TR; you have seen how I put it

10:03 schestowitz-TR; the real news is that that facebook loses relevance

10:03 schestowitz-TR; but that FB itself ADMITS it

10:03 schestowitz-TR; using its secret, proprietary data

10:03 schestowitz-TR; and now the Zuck is getting to gripsm with it having no real future

10:03 Techrights-sec; yes

10:03 schestowitz-TR; so he wants some fiction he may have read about as a kid to

10:03 schestowitz-TR; a) be hyped up by media like "hey hi" (metaverse, meta, vr, ar)

10:03 schestowitz-TR; b) become market leader in this

10:03 schestowitz-TR; c) keep shareholdera around for (b), based on lies in (a)

10:03 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is the same in the post-Windows era

10:04 schestowitz-TR; security

10:04 schestowitz-TR; games

10:04 schestowitz-TR; military-ware

10:04 schestowitz-TR; hosting (azure)

10:04 schestowitz-TR; developers developers developers (shithub)

10:17 schestowitz-TR; "CNC Engraver" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/ | Source: Hackaday

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/

10:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-No-Laser CNC Engraver Is Something New Under The Sun | Hackaday

10:18 Techrights-sec; M$ has lost some of the games market already, how much more remains to be

10:18 Techrights-sec; seen and appears to have put them in a panic

10:18 Techrights-sec; the loss of github is problematic especially because too many idiots and

10:18 Techrights-sec; idiot journals try to conflate version control and Git specifically with GitHub

10:20 schestowitz-TR; some of the time, not all the time, this is deliberate

10:20 schestowitz-TR; the equiv. of producing FB "happy stories" (we met in FB, got married..)

10:20 schestowitz-TR; BTW, ICBM does ther same

10:20 schestowitz-TR; I occasionally show examples of this

10:20 schestowitz-TR; LF also (FOSSForce is one of their tentacles, but that can turn Christine into

10:20 schestowitz-TR; another SPAMnil)

10:20 Techrights-sec; In th beginning, every time FB started to ebb, the tabloids and worse filled

10:20 Techrights-sec; with "happy stories" about FB

10:20 Techrights-sec; FOMO was pushed heavily and still is

10:21 schestowitz-TR; Girls I met online (and then in person) were always not good

10:21 schestowitz-TR; not to say ones I met in person first were perfect

10:21 schestowitz-TR; but at least you find out evry fast

10:22 Techrights-sec; yes

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I cannot imagine doing job interviews or court hearings "online"

10:24 schestowitz-TR; It is a grotesque notion that shows how supposed "progress"

10:24 schestowitz-TR; is exactly the opposite of it

10:24 schestowitz-TR; it's like calling pr0n a progress for sex

10:24 schestowitz-TR; or like calling [something] better than xuisine

10:24 schestowitz-TR; cannot think of that something yet, maybne a pastry and coffee at starbucks

10:24 schestowitz-TR; hmmmmmmmm!!! STARBUCKS... SOOOOOO DELICIOUS!!!

10:26 Techrights-sec; Most places make it illegal to dig around online and especially in social

10:26 Techrights-sec; control media for job applicants, but the way around that is to outsource

10:26 Techrights-sec; part of the hiring process one or two layers deep and turn a blind eye to

10:26 Techrights-sec; contractor abuses and violations

10:26 schestowitz-TR; Gulag approached me 2-3 times over the years after "stalking" me online

10:26 schestowitz-TR; I assume in USENET

10:27 schestowitz-TR; if that's illegal, and according to what chris DiBono told me this is in fact what the recruiters do

10:27 schestowitz-TR; (along with headhunting), then maybe legal action is overdue

10:27 schestowitz-TR; *DiBona

10:27 schestowitz-TR; (of course he tries to destroy GNU/RMS/FSF now)

10:27 schestowitz-TR; (the millionaire turncoat who is troubled by poor activists)

10:27 Techrights-sec; Google approached me in person a *very* long time ago but I was quit turned

10:27 Techrights-sec; off by their (then) recent hiring of microsofters and spend the encounter

10:27 Techrights-sec; warning them of the consequences of bringing microsofters inside the company

10:27 Techrights-sec; needsless to say they did not heed and my warnings were proven prescient :(

10:31 schestowitz-TR; Red Hat has had similar problems

10:31 schestowitz-TR; Not sure about Canonical

10:31 schestowitz-TR; but at the back of our minds we should perpetuALLy have this lingering reminder

10:31 schestowitz-TR; that states too DO NOT want citizens to control their devices

10:31 schestowitz-TR; s

10:31 schestowitz-TR; so there will be coordinated efforts to promote centralised "media"

10:31 schestowitz-TR; and consolidated media

10:31 schestowitz-TR; not blogs

10:31 schestowitz-TR; or OSes that are like chromeOS

10:31 schestowitz-TR; as a compromise for when Windows is up in flames and down in market share

10:33 Techrights-sec; Canonical has been thoroughly ruined from the inside by microsofters.

10:33 Techrights-sec; The exit strategy seems to be to bail via IPO next year.

10:33 Techrights-sec; Correct, a lot of overt and covert action will be taken to ensure that

10:33 Techrights-sec; groups and projects move in a centralized, proprietary direction.

10:33 Techrights-sec; Remmber the "licensing disagreement" that blocked the pro-open standards

10:33 Techrights-sec; web sites, almost down to a site, during the hours that some of the European

10:33 Techrights-sec; states were deliberating on OOXML. That "disagrteement" was resolved within

10:33 Techrights-sec; minutes of the decision and within an hour or so, service was restored once it

10:33 Techrights-sec; was too late to influence the decision(s)

10:34 Techrights-sec; LXD is not available on Devuan and only via Snaps on Debian. :/

10:35 Techrights-sec; LXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\

10:36 schestowitz-TR; ectra complexity was never good for security

10:36 schestowitz-TR; for a number of reasons

10:36 schestowitz-TR; I know, I know... they will say "insulation", "isolatioon", "abstraction" etc.

10:36 schestowitz-TR; but containers are not the way

10:36 schestowitz-TR; you end up having to deal with a lot more files all over the place

10:38 Techrights-sec; a Snaps on Debian. :/

10:38 Techrights-sec; LXC is somewhat insecure, last I read :\

10:38 Techrights-sec; I figure shared hosting may the best way to go, but I can see some convenience

10:38 Techrights-sec; factors with "just" copying a large image from one machine to another

10:38 Techrights-sec; The container itself is a service and a complex one at that. Complexity is BAD.From the little I see of LXC / LXD

10:38 Techrights-sec; and FreeBSD jails, FreeBSD jails seem

10:38 Techrights-sec; worlds better.

10:41 schestowitz-TR; disk space got cheaper

10:41 schestowitz-TR; b/w is less of a problem in most places

10:41 schestowitz-TR; www got bloated because it's "faster" (for development) to ignore contraints and limits

10:41 schestowitz-TR; similarly, on the server side and desktop (flatpak/snap), containers are seen as "compromise"

10:41 schestowitz-TR; just get half a gig of "stuff" for some small progra

10:41 schestowitz-TR; AppImages are also MASSIVE

10:41 schestowitz-TR; but we no longer federate installs using cd-roms or even DVDs

10:41 schestowitz-TR; from what I recall, the install media for Vista 11 is loaded with lots of very very

10:41 schestowitz-TR; poor-quality cruft

10:41 schestowitz-TR; this is where the world goes (EPO also): low-quality junk in high quantities

10:41 schestowitz-TR; kettle every year, OS with EOL after 2 years, patents on CHEWING GUM

10:47 schestowitz-TR; ====

10:47 schestowitz-TR; on a positive note, I think we have done a fantastic job, all things considered (like people moving to "apps"

10:47 schestowitz-TR; as jail-as-'media'), in TM and TR

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I had to cut off a lot of the patent new picks as it's more noisy than it's worth

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I am back to work tonight, but will do a recording on EPO (now in lxer) and Lunduke

10:47 schestowitz-TR; The upside of his articles, lunacy notwithstanding (I saw none of the rest; I dumped him like a hot potato

10:47 schestowitz-TR; when he was shilling Microsoft), is they they legitimise what we've long said about OSI, LF, and others

10:47 schestowitz-TR; and you can be sure he has read us as when you research those issues Techrights is very visible

10:47 schestowitz-TR; hence the likes of Gulagboy coming to IRC looking for "material"

10:47 schestowitz-TR; last week I learned that it's "homophobic" to be against PentaGAFAM

10:47 schestowitz-TR; even if you write about an org led by someone whom you presume is hetero

10:47 schestowitz-TR; but I think that trick will backfire on him

10:47 schestowitz-TR; He stepped away from OSI, partly, this year

10:47 schestowitz-TR; Phipps is back

10:47 Techrights-sec; yes, a lot of good work and you do a *lot* of work

10:47 Techrights-sec; ack

10:47 Techrights-sec; In a good way or a bad way?

10:51 schestowitz-TR; OK, I don't want to ctrl c/v into unix term

10:51 schestowitz-TR; go to the osi site/blog, search for webmink or phipps

10:51 schestowitz-TR; he wrote about things like patents

10:51 schestowitz-TR; which I think is an area they should be active in

10:51 schestowitz-TR; he rallied people in the EU to submit input

10:51 schestowitz-TR; I used to chat with him privately about those issues

10:51 schestowitz-TR; before we got into big arguments over the OSI's direction and Patrick resigned

10:51 schestowitz-TR; he was so proud that he promoted diversity that he lost sight

10:51 schestowitz-TR; of what those people stood for (or didn't)

10:55 Techrights-sec; That's good news then.

10:57 schestowitz-TR; it would be counter-productive if I wrote something like, phipps is back and writing

10:57 schestowitz-TR; for osi for first time in years

10:57 schestowitz-TR; as it would also give the false impression he's as important (or of integrity) as

10:57 schestowitz-TR; Perens

10:57 schestowitz-TR; Phipps worked with FSFE to undermine FSF

10:57 schestowitz-TR; Perens is corresponding with RMS

10:57 schestowitz-TR; while phipps mocks him and signs ant-RMS defmation writs

10:58 schestowitz-TR; "Its very early days for CAD Sketcher, a new parametric CAD add-on for Blender by [hlorus], but it looks very promising" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/

10:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CAD Sketcher, Its Parametric CAD For Blender | Hackaday


11 AM, April 28

11:02 schestowitz-TR; a longstanding, applicable, suitable analogy is "doping"

11:02 schestowitz-TR; like financial doping in football clubs

11:02 schestowitz-TR; some of these "open source" people try to cheat their way into thrones

11:02 schestowitz-TR; so they provoke and lie and suck up

11:02 schestowitz-TR; and temporarily they might benefit

11:02 schestowitz-TR; all the coup leaders (vs rms) are out

11:02 schestowitz-TR; gulagboy not in gulag

11:02 schestowitz-TR; deb not in osi

11:02 schestowitz-TR; bully and mcgovern unemployed

11:02 schestowitz-TR; not sure where deb is

11:03 schestowitz-TR; she vanished

11:03 schestowitz-TR; like MattL

11:03 schestowitz-TR; spamnil is busy tryint to bear gulag's algos and get noticed

11:03 schestowitz-TR; LF too will drop him

11:03 schestowitz-TR; in my articles FOR the video on LF I already have 3 new linkss

11:03 schestowitz-TR; about LF

11:03 schestowitz-TR; they got some other new lackey to run linux.com

11:03 schestowitz-TR; I mentioned him in passing a month ago

11:03 schestowitz-TR; Lunduke did mention their NFT lunacy!

11:04 schestowitz-TR; going on "RT" for an interview is a bit like doping

11:04 schestowitz-TR; it might seem like a good idea (at the time)

11:04 schestowitz-TR; but years later you can get blacklisted like Russian atheletes

11:04 schestowitz-TR; so better say, "no thank you... I'd rather not be on TV than be associated with you"

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11:07 schestowitz-TR; Assange paid a MASSIVE price, for 10 years, for having some show broadcast via some company in "RT"

11:07 schestowitz-TR; some other associates of his (Jeremie and others) can get "marked" for this

11:08 schestowitz-TR; afaik chomsky never went on iranian or russian channels, ever

11:08 schestowitz-TR; not sure if hedges counts

11:08 schestowitz-TR; I think hedges just sold his episodes to RT

11:08 schestowitz-TR; "RT" is not news

11:08 schestowitz-TR; RT is a campaign to descridit EU and US

11:08 schestowitz-TR; and they will rope anything in... to support this mission

11:08 schestowitz-TR; under the guise of "journalism" and "free press"

11:08 Techrights-sec; ack

11:08 Techrights-sec; apt analogy

11:08 Techrights-sec; yes good call

11:08 Techrights-sec; the associatino hurt both RMS and JA from day one

11:15 schestowitz-TR; doping [metaphor]: doing something to get ahead, at least temporarily, despite knowing and sensing that it

11:15 schestowitz-TR; may be counter-intuitive and counter-productive. Ex: clickbait.

11:15 schestowitz-TR; I am trying to recall the name of IDG "journalists" who made up people and quotes. Randall Keneddy? I think

11:15 schestowitz-TR; at least one of those names is right, but anyway his career was over after this and past articles were

11:15 schestowitz-TR; retroactively disgraced. He did some reporting against Microsoft, but you would not wish to link to this

11:15 schestowitz-TR; knowing what you know about him now.

11:17 schestowitz-TR; "CBS News hiring former Trump aide Mick Mulvaney speaks volumes about systemic problems in our media. Mulvaney noto

11:17 schestowitz-TR; riously defended various Trump chicaneries" https://fair.org/home/damn-good-for-cbs-but-really-bad-for-democracy/

↺ https://fair.org/home/damn-good-for-cbs-but-really-bad-for-democracy/

11:17 schestowitz-TR; | Source: FAIR

11:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Damn Good for CBSbut Really Bad for Democracy - FAIR

11:17 schestowitz-TR; ^Bryan Lunduke, "Linux Sucks!"

11:20 Techrights-sec; unfortunatley so

11:20 Techrights-sec; I can't reca;; specific IDG "journalists"

11:21 schestowitz-TR; I have just checked

11:21 schestowitz-TR; Randall C. Kennedy

11:21 schestowitz-TR; wrote a lot in infoworld

11:21 schestowitz-TR; when it still ran/existed (I've not even seen that domain in ages)

11:23 Techrights-sec; InfoWorld was ok back in the 1990s

11:23 Techrights-sec; perhaps a bit longer too

11:27 Techrights-sec; THat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and then

11:27 Techrights-sec; gut it for short term profit

11:27 Techrights-sec; do it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stock

11:27 Techrights-sec; prices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage at

11:27 Techrights-sec; a new company

11:28 schestowitz-TR; Twitter.

11:28 schestowitz-TR; Infoworld:

11:28 schestowitz-TR; now oened by some chinee entity

11:28 schestowitz-TR; they use a few of the still-online domain for "BRAND POST"

11:28 schestowitz-TR; and other sponsored webspam

11:28 schestowitz-TR; trying to ride what's left of the past reputation

11:28 schestowitz-TR; they used to do BOSSIE Awards

11:28 Techrights-sec; THat's common: buy a brand or take over the name from the insude and then

11:28 Techrights-sec; gut it for short term profit

11:28 Techrights-sec; do it for a few quarters before people catch on and use the rising stock

11:28 Techrights-sec; prices to cash in and to get a new job doing more of the same damage at

11:28 Techrights-sec; a new company

11:29 schestowitz-TR; Twitter.

11:29 schestowitz-TR; SCMP

11:29 schestowitz-TR; (for Chinese example)

11:42 schestowitz-TR; Singapore has quite a few examples, but I forgot the details due to passange of time

11:42 schestowitz-TR; On the plane they handed out 'free' copies of the regime's media

11:42 schestowitz-TR; PAP

11:42 schestowitz-TR; showbox-for-home land

11:42 schestowitz-TR; Shoe

11:42 schestowitz-TR; Overpopulation based on hype and consumrism

11:42 schestowitz-TR; mandatory military service for men

11:43 schestowitz-TR; and reliance on imports as they barely make anything of their own

11:43 schestowitz-TR; same as macao (IIRC highest pop. density in the planet)

11:43 Techrights-sec; ack

11:55 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Don't let corporations conflate social cohesion with commercial impunity


noon, April 28

12:04 schestowitz-TR; I want to ask you,

12:04 schestowitz-TR; regarding Canonical

12:04 schestowitz-TR; neither of us is an accountant

12:04 schestowitz-TR; but I was thinking in th e kitchen

12:04 schestowitz-TR; the company was insolvent years ago

12:04 schestowitz-TR; if they say "IPO", does that mean buying time with other people's money?

12:04 schestowitz-TR; Also, MS (Mark S) claims profits

12:04 schestowitz-TR; why now?

12:04 schestowitz-TR; Why not before?

12:04 schestowitz-TR; They killed off the community

12:04 schestowitz-TR; in a lot of ways

12:04 schestowitz-TR; could he be faking it and, if the firm is private, what would be the ramifications?

12:04 schestowitz-TR; (nb. most businesses do not make money, but they hide it or talk about "the future")

12:04 schestowitz-TR; [this is brainstorming IN CASE I want to thjrow a hat in the ring]

12:04 schestowitz-TR; if a company turns from losses to big profits while the users of its flagship product FLEE, something

12:04 schestowitz-TR; seems a tad "off"

12:17 Techrights-sec; It's probably his way of cashing out and leaving, having had enough

12:19 schestowitz-TR; ok, here is the thing

12:19 schestowitz-TR; if I said something dismissive

12:19 schestowitz-TR; and someone said, "PROVE IT!"

12:19 schestowitz-TR; I would not have compelling material

12:19 schestowitz-TR; but intuition and guy feelign say he's just making proclamation

12:19 schestowitz-TR; to encourage people to invest

12:19 schestowitz-TR; but once they see if from the inside, they'll realise it has many server

12:19 schestowitz-TR; users but not so much money

12:19 schestowitz-TR; a lot of that happens, buyer's remorse

12:19 schestowitz-TR; like IBM

12:21 schestowitz-TR; ----

12:21 schestowitz-TR; years ago mandriva was enraged that MS (Mark S), having grabbed the lion's share of desktyop users,

12:21 schestowitz-TR; moaned that there was "no money in it"

12:21 schestowitz-TR; while he was doing ShipIt

12:21 schestowitz-TR; and Mandriva was trying toi upsell superpacks

12:21 schestowitz-TR; so even then he complained he was in it for money

12:21 schestowitz-TR; not altruism

12:21 schestowitz-TR; and then focused more on eating debian's and icbm's lunch

12:21 schestowitz-TR; instead of microsoft's or apple's

12:22 Techrights-sec; yes Mark could have done well except for allowing the microsofters into MOTU

12:22 Techrights-sec; which damaged the project + company, then he made the damage permanent

12:22 Techrights-sec; by hiring in more micrtosofters and placing them within the company

12:23 schestowitz-TR; the first I knew of, via IRC ("tacone" from Italy) was Rick Sponcer

12:23 schestowitz-TR; later Jono Bacon was licking the boot

12:23 schestowitz-TR; and then there was the Azure turnoff, WSL etc.

12:23 schestowitz-TR; WSL failed so badly

12:23 schestowitz-TR; that it's mostly WINDOWS sites shilling it, and even that it rare this year

12:26 Techrights-sec; Bacon was a spinmeister and more a diode than conduit, he was to lord on high

12:26 Techrights-sec; to the community about how they were going to have to accept, than interact

12:26 Techrights-sec; with the community and negotiate mutal goals and work towards them;

12:26 Techrights-sec; he was a *VERY BIG PART* of the problem with Canonical; Yet despite doing

12:26 Techrights-sec; so much damage to the company and the project he was lauded for his efforts

12:26 Techrights-sec; rather than thrashed and driven out into isolation

12:26 Techrights-sec; as he more rightly deserved

12:34 Techrights-sec; Many were fooled by his (mis-)use of the title Community Manager and did not

12:34 Techrights-sec; look further at his harmful actions.

12:34 Techrights-sec; add one more to the fail pile if you count his time at Ubuntu ...

12:35 schestowitz-TR; "art" of community managerment

12:35 schestowitz-TR; his art is not graphics, or barely. His "art" is shouting into the microphone.

12:35 schestowitz-TR; which I think speaks "volumes".

12:35 schestowitz-TR; "bad volume"

12:35 schestowitz-TR; his current podcast

12:35 schestowitz-TR; he had many failed ones over the years, more than I can recall

12:35 schestowitz-TR; "bad volume" barely even focuses on Free software

12:35 schestowitz-TR; his prior podcast was named after booze

12:35 schestowitz-TR; he worked at github while Microsoft ambushed the company for takeover

12:35 schestowitz-TR; (afaik, github manmagement was aware all along)

12:35 Techrights-sec; I would not be surprised if he had somehow contributed to the demise of GitHub

12:36 schestowitz-TR; he was there for a relatively short time, I think they failed to find somthing for him to do

12:36 schestowitz-TR; as he lacked both the technical skills or.... well....what else?

12:36 Techrights-sec; indeed

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3 PM, April 28

15:42 Techrights-sec; of the news sites covering mastodon, many of them are calling it a "site" wint

15:42 Techrights-sec; ^with

15:42 Techrights-sec; with the implication that it is a centralized service and avoid mentioning even

15:42 Techrights-sec; the idea of decentralization and federation; though truth be told, the centralized blacklists do a ot to neutralize

15:42 Techrights-sec; the benefits of federation

15:42 Techrights-sec; yep

15:43 schestowitz-TR; the media is also mostly centralised

15:43 schestowitz-TR; they cover the same BS

15:43 schestowitz-TR; which comes from the same regimes and corporations

15:43 schestowitz-TR; using the same funnels, such as Gulag search and FB

15:43 schestowitz-TR; to them, www is just a bunch of "companies" and "stores"

15:43 schestowitz-TR; this is not how the web started

15:44 Techrights-sec; "Wired" at least has the federation part described correctly, despite it being

15:44 Techrights-sec; a shadow of what it ws in the 1990s when they wrote regularly about cutting

15:44 Techrights-sec; edge policy issues

15:45 schestowitz-TR; the "they" changed

15:45 schestowitz-TR; technical people and scholars, geeks

15:45 schestowitz-TR; now stenographers with no relevant qualifications except grammar/english

15:45 schestowitz-TR; sort of like what JUVE Patent became

15:45 schestowitz-TR; not understanding of technical issue

15:45 schestowitz-TR; no understanding of legal issues

15:45 schestowitz-TR; or what patents are

15:46 Techrights-sec; However, didn't mastodon have its roots in GNUsocial?

15:46 Techrights-sec; The GNU Social roots of the fediverse would be a good topic to cover

15:46 Techrights-sec; if you are still looking for video topics

15:50 schestowitz-TR; I think you remember it not accurately, except the term "fediverse

15:50 schestowitz-TR; "

15:50 schestowitz-TR; mastodon afaik started from scratch as Twitter clone

15:50 schestowitz-TR; and statusnet being gnu social predated that by a lot

15:50 schestowitz-TR; later they connected across 'CMS' stuff, inc. for video

15:50 schestowitz-TR; but never got around to diaspora

15:50 schestowitz-TR; which likely hurt diaspora

15:50 schestowitz-TR; (btw, THEY ARE ALL SHIT!)

15:50 schestowitz-TR; they used to have many users, mastodon had momentum in 2017, but it's all going down the toilet

15:50 schestowitz-TR; that's why joindiaspora pulled the plug... not many active users left

15:50 schestowitz-TR; it is not a twitter issue (Also down)

15:50 schestowitz-TR; or FB (down)

15:50 schestowitz-TR; it's the concept

15:50 schestowitz-TR; gamification of filtered communications

15:50 schestowitz-TR; moanths ago when joindiaspora was throwiong in the towel I shows you some stats in a site that combinees all

15:50 schestowitz-TR; a lot of the activity is historical

15:50 schestowitz-TR; in recent years you saw lots of shutdowns, inc. distrotoot and drew devault's instance

15:51 Techrights-sec; my innacuracy is due to my ignorance in that area, I have not followed it at all

15:51 Techrights-sec; ack

15:52 schestowitz-TR; in terms of videos, I'm well behind

15:52 schestowitz-TR; I need to do belarus article, I'm well behind on RSS feed (lost a lot of time arguing in IRC)

15:52 schestowitz-TR; need to then record about LF and Belarus

15:52 schestowitz-TR; and I start work in 100 minutes


4 PM, April 28

16:28 schestowitz-TR; draft

16:28 schestowitz-TR; the summary was an attempt at EPO tie-in, but I will expand a bit

16:28 Techrights-sec; ack

16:28 Techrights-sec; needs a tie-in to the EPO in the intro so that the reader knows this will

16:28 Techrights-sec; be about patents or the EPO itself

16:29 Techrights-sec; same for the conclusions

16:29 Techrights-sec; thanks

16:35 schestowitz-TR; ok, check the new summary and last paragraph

16:42 Techrights-sec; nice. thanks!

16:42 Techrights-sec; that provides much more context for the body

16:43 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the sanity check

16:43 schestowitz-TR; it did not occur to me

16:43 schestowitz-TR; I work in 45 mins

16:43 schestowitz-TR; so will start recording NOW

16:43 schestowitz-TR; OTA


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18:50 schestowitz-TR; 1) I was frustrated to lose my first recording re EPO, but the second time around was better anyway

18:50 schestowitz-TR; and I learn my lessons (obs double checking) without losing anything os immense value

18:50 schestowitz-TR; 2) while recording about lunmduke I realised he created some straw men

18:50 schestowitz-TR; several incorrect assertion that can in fact discredit some of our thesis

18:50 schestowitz-TR; so in a 'defensive' move I think my article will be focused on stating that is not true/accurate

18:50 schestowitz-TR; and set the record straight

18:53 Techrights-sec; ack

18:53 Techrights-sec; strawmen are important to identify, they are distractions from the core issue

18:54 schestowitz-TR; As I go along the text, like last year with vaccines, I realise

18:54 schestowitz-TR; he mighht do more harm to us than good

18:54 schestowitz-TR; with these straw men

18:54 schestowitz-TR; on the surface OK, but it's easy to prove him wreong

18:54 schestowitz-TR; or misguided on COVID, too

18:58 schestowitz-TR; My text will be defensive

18:58 schestowitz-TR; not what I planned

18:58 schestowitz-TR; \I had a very fast read last night

18:58 schestowitz-TR; but now, while recording, I saw many small errors

18:58 schestowitz-TR; I will use the text to focus on that

18:58 schestowitz-TR; to defend what we have shown

18:58 schestowitz-TR; Lunduke might become the straw man, almost literally, for these issues

18:58 schestowitz-TR; and that would benefit nobody

18:58 schestowitz-TR; I want an outlet to burst out at the recording thing

18:58 schestowitz-TR; which I already told rianne about

18:58 schestowitz-TR; my mouse has bad buttons

18:58 schestowitz-TR; so sometimes it clicks twice, not once

18:58 schestowitz-TR; usually it's not causing any serious issues that I cannot correct

18:58 schestowitz-TR; today it did m record/stop in succesion

18:58 schestowitz-TR; but I consider myself lucky as I managed to recall about 20 minutes' worth of thingsd I said and say the same more

18:59 schestowitz-TR; concisely

18:59 schestowitz-TR; but I should not involutarily lose recordings

18:59 schestowitz-TR; so now there is another step in the checklist

18:59 schestowitz-TR; obs does not make it very obvious when it records

18:59 schestowitz-TR; with webcomoid I have better protocols in place

18:59 schestowitz-TR; also, after recording i had somew technical issue with a file, taking me about 20 minutes to correct

18:59 schestowitz-TR; i.e. ther equivalent of time wasted recording to something that was not recording

18:59 schestowitz-TR; it's all relative

18:59 Techrights-sec; ack

18:59 Techrights-sec; not just defend but also bring the discussion back on topic since strawmen

18:59 Techrights-sec; fallacies are one form of distraction

18:59 Techrights-sec; maybe the mouse can be disassembled and cleaned to restore it to working

18:59 Techrights-sec; condition. if not then it MUST be recycled in the electonic waste :(


7 PM, April 28

19:07 schestowitz-TR; a simpler, well-overdue alternative is, improve the protcol for doubelk checking... in caase of double clicking: -)

19:07 schestowitz-TR; I tend not to throw anything away

19:07 schestowitz-TR; this is the first time I lose something with obs and it's not the fault of obs

19:07 schestowitz-TR; there are more concrete issue like face and souns not being properly synched

19:07 schestowitz-TR; because my hardware is not strerong enough

19:07 schestowitz-TR; draft

19:09 Techrights-sec; ack

19:09 Techrights-sec; broken equipment needs to be either repaired or removed permanently in such

19:09 Techrights-sec; a way as to prevent reuse either through temptation or forgetfulness

19:09 Techrights-sec; a reminder of the self-styled nature of the nickname is in order if it is

19:09 Techrights-sec; used

19:09 Techrights-sec; also it needs to be reminded (as always) that EPO is not part of the EU

19:09 Techrights-sec; epsecially since EU is mentioned

19:10 schestowitz-TR; I will revise the text a bit

19:10 schestowitz-TR; I attempted to recall things I said when thinking I was recording and it was not recording

19:10 schestowitz-TR; but anyway, lessons learned, no major harm done

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19:20 Techrights-sec; ack

19:28 schestowitz-TR; it will always be a terrible feeling losing text of multimedia you worked on

19:28 schestowitz-TR; with text it can be worse because text is a process with refinements

19:28 schestowitz-TR; whereas audio can be spontaneous

19:28 schestowitz-TR; it's impossible to meliminate all data loss

19:28 schestowitz-TR; but possible to reduce it

19:28 schestowitz-TR; with text, I now write to the pi over ssh (all working text files)

19:28 schestowitz-TR; if the pi dies, I have local copies

19:28 schestowitz-TR; if the local machine dies, the piu has all the files

19:28 schestowitz-TR; but tbh,m I very rarely lose text

19:28 schestowitz-TR; I lost an article more than 10 years ago after the palm PDA messed something up in the transfer

19:28 schestowitz-TR; ity was something about Vista 7

19:28 schestowitz-TR; and not a very long or detailed article

19:28 schestowitz-TR; like the one I did "interview" for muktware) inside the gym

19:28 schestowitz-TR; that one was rather long

19:28 schestowitz-TR; if I at least know I did what was possible to reduce loss (horrible feeling) and it no longer happens

19:28 schestowitz-TR; often, then I'm happy

19:28 Techrights-sec; yep

19:28 Techrights-sec; it is hard torecreae the old flow

19:28 Techrights-sec; ack

19:28 Techrights-sec; things generally work when watched closely, when it comes to intermittent problems

19:40 schestowitz-TR; tm backup is happpening at this very moment

19:40 schestowitz-TR; I sort of want it to fail at l;east once so that I know my check works OK

19:40 schestowitz-TR; oh, wait, it's not compressing the dumps at all for TM

19:40 schestowitz-TR; investigating...

19:40 schestowitz-TR; I think I found the issuie

19:40 schestowitz-TR; 'ionice nice'

19:40 schestowitz-TR; no, wait, that still pu

19:40 schestowitz-TR; lol, got it, I was testing the gz before it existed, I think

19:40 schestowitz-TR; I think it'll be OK now, on your backups you may have up to 4 uncompressed TM dumps

19:40 schestowitz-TR; I am compressing the 5 of them now

19:41 schestowitz-TR; later on today I'll have a lot of catching up to do with linux news

19:41 schestowitz-TR; and with work

19:41 schestowitz-TR; but it's almost weekend already!

19:41 Techrights-sec; race condition :/

19:41 Techrights-sec; ack

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19:57 schestowitz-TR; I'm still two posts behdind

19:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne will help post the latest news to TM

19:57 schestowitz-TR; also helps with work atm

19:57 schestowitz-TR; testing 5 latest gz files in tmux

19:57 Techrights-sec; ack

19:57 Techrights-sec; excellent

19:57 schestowitz-TR; coffee

19:57 schestowitz-TR; all were OK, I will check the script tomorrow


9 PM, April 28

21:43 schestowitz-TR; 'Public Knowledge' has just been infiltrated by Microsoft, so it is more likely to help cover up Microsofts crimes than promote actual knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/

↺ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/

21:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Welcomes New Members to Board of Directors - Public Knowledge


10 PM, April 28

22:03 schestowitz-TR; crosofts Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258

22:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft's Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

22:03 schestowitz-TR; see comment on Schneier

22:14 schestowitz-TR; I will take the belarus text agsin and redo it to overcompensate for the loss

22:14 schestowitz-TR; away I know, but there's a draft now

22:14 schestowitz-TR; instead of blasting byan I directed the cirtiicsm towards the LF

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11 PM, April 28

23:24 Techrights-sec; "General Manager of Microsofts Global Airband Initiative" from the first link

23:24 Techrights-sec; was apparently bought from the FCC

23:24 Techrights-sec; revolving door politics :

23:24 schestowitz-TR; revolving door politics :/

23:24 schestowitz-TR; graft as governance

23:24 Techrights-sec; revolving door politics :/

23:24 Techrights-sec; graft as governance

23:24 schestowitz-TR; 0/

23:24 schestowitz-TR; You theory about calm before storm and FUD coordination seems more plausible

23:24 schestowitz-TR; 3 links above\

23:24 schestowitz-TR; corporations are government, governments are corporations

23:24 schestowitz-TR; graft

23:26 schestowitz-TR; I've managed to remain rather clam considering all that happened today dnt his emotionally-draining

23:26 schestowitz-TR; BS from Microsoft

23:26 schestowitz-TR; I think we covered all the imports stuff in TM and TR has just had Daily Links

23:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'll get a nap soon, need to recharge

23:27 schestowitz-TR; tomorrow I'm free to video ideas, found none other than rehash of Microsoft FUD

23:27 schestowitz-TR; which would be a waste of time, just fgive that more attention

23:27 schestowitz-TR; so part 7 belarus

23:32 schestowitz-TR; rms is asking me some questions about the whispers

23:32 schestowitz-TR; but it's a tricky one

23:32 schestowitz-TR; I only meant to drop a cautionary tip without disclosing much pertinent information

23:32 schestowitz-TR; so as to balance the need to mitigate risk of another "boycott GNU" (or similar)

23:32 schestowitz-TR; with respect for privacy of someone or a conversation

23:32 schestowitz-TR; I decided after 2 days that I ought to at least say something

23:41 schestowitz; > Another link to Knight: https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/

↺ https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/

23:41 schestowitz; > <https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/>

↺ https://dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com/>

23:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dcsolutionfocusedcounseling.com | Home - BK Consulting

23:41 schestowitz; HAHAHA!

23:41 schestowitz; Thanks, I shall use that.

23:43 schestowitz; Re: WorldIPday ipeurope

23:43 schestowitz; > The tweets of iPeurope for worldipday are hilarious.

23:43 schestowitz; >

23:43 schestowitz; > Patents helps transportation lol.

23:43 schestowitz; Without patents, toasters would not work and you would starve to death!!

23:43 Techrights-sec; ack


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