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04:11 schestowitz-TR; gm
04:11 schestowitz-TR; gm
04:11 techrigthssec; gm
04:11 techrigthssec; gm
04:12 schestowitz-TR; plenty of good progress
04:12 schestowitz-TR; plenty of good progress
04:12 schestowitz-TR; disk space doubled
04:12 schestowitz-TR; disk space doubled
04:12 schestowitz-TR; main remaining tasks are
04:12 schestowitz-TR; main remaining tasks are
04:12 schestowitz-TR; daily links pipeline
04:12 schestowitz-TR; daily links pipeline
04:12 schestowitz-TR; and irc stuff
04:12 schestowitz-TR; and irc stuff
04:12 techrigthssec; excellent #######################################
04:12 techrigthssec; excellent #######################################
04:12 techrigthssec; by clearing old files or by adding new storage?
04:12 techrigthssec; by clearing old files or by adding new storage?
04:13 schestowitz-TR; debian 11
04:13 schestowitz-TR; debian 11
04:13 schestowitz-TR; brand new ssd
04:13 schestowitz-TR; brand new ssd
04:13 schestowitz-TR; tons of stuffed restored
04:13 schestowitz-TR; tons of stuffed restored
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:25 techrigthssec; onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:25 techrigthssec; ---
04:25 techrigthssec; ---
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce
04:25 techrigthssec; been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:25 techrigthssec; very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,
04:25 techrigthssec; especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating
04:25 techrigthssec; the archive?
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> I am missing that file.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> Regards,
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > I am too. It is not in Git.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > file itself appears never to have entered the repository.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; Cheers!
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> I am missing that file.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >> Regards,
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >>
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > I am too. It is not in Git.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; >
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; > file itself appears never to have entered the repository.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; Cheers!
04:39 schestowitz[TR]; PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.
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04:48 schestowitz-TR; bbulletin working fully now
04:48 schestowitz-TR; irc next
04:48 schestowitz-TR; for now, no irc blog post
04:48 schestowitz-TR; working on it...
04:48 schestowitz-TR; bbulletin working fully now
04:48 schestowitz-TR; irc next
04:48 schestowitz-TR; for now, no irc blog post
04:48 schestowitz-TR; working on it...
04:48 schestowitz-TR; bbulletin working fully now
04:48 schestowitz-TR; irc next
04:48 schestowitz-TR; for now, no irc blog post
04:48 schestowitz-TR; working on it...
04:48 schestowitz-TR; bbulletin working fully now
04:48 schestowitz-TR; irc next
04:48 schestowitz-TR; for now, no irc blog post
04:48 schestowitz-TR; working on it...
07:28 techrigthssec; "No IRC file for 2023-01-27 yet as of 2023-01-28 07:26:36 UTC.
07:28 techrigthssec; "
07:28 techrigthssec; np
07:28 schestowitz-TR; working on it atm ^_^
07:44 schestowitz-TR; only today there will be duplicate lines
07:44 schestowitz-TR; still testing and working on it #######################################
07:44 schestowitz-TR; making a two-machine redundancy thing
07:44 schestowitz-TR; only today there will be duplicate lines
07:44 schestowitz-TR; still testing and working on it #######################################
07:44 schestowitz-TR; making a two-machine redundancy thing
07:44 schestowitz-TR; only today there will be duplicate lines
07:44 schestowitz-TR; still testing and working on it #######################################
07:44 schestowitz-TR; making a two-machine redundancy thing
07:44 schestowitz-TR; for the logs
07:56 schestowitz-TR; very pleased by speed of recovery
07:56 schestowitz-TR; inc.. hw repairs
07:56 schestowitz-TR; expect some creases at first
07:56 techrigthssec; ack
07:56 techrigthssec; nice
07:56 techrigthssec; I presume a local shop had a suitable SSD. It normmally take a week or two at
07:56 techrigthssec; least otherwise
08:36 techrigthssec; trying
08:36 techrigthssec; IRC logs have duplicate lines
08:36 schestowitz-TR; yes, i have corrected for the next day
08:36 schestowitz-TR; did a lorof testing too
08:51 techrigthssec; It turns out that the lines really are duplicares, so it may be that piping
08:51 techrigthssec; the files through uniq will solve that.
08:54 schestowitz-TR; yeah, this is solved going forward
08:54 schestowitz-TR; ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi
08:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive?
08:54 schestowitz-TR; i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not
08:54 schestowitz-TR; also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux
08:54 schestowitz-TR; it would be nice to figure out how to free up time
08:54 schestowitz-TR; to do more articles
08:54 schestowitz-TR; i already sleep little ^_^
08:54 schestowitz-TR; took a ton of rss obboard
08:54 schestowitz-TR; this is good if well managed
09:00 techrigthssec; Oops not qiute
09:00 techrigthssec; How are you and Rianne at XML in Python?
09:01 schestowitz-TR; yeah, this is solved going forward
09:01 schestowitz-TR; ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi
09:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive?
09:01 schestowitz-TR; i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not
09:01 schestowitz-TR; also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux
09:01 schestowitz-TR; it would be nice to figure out how to free up time
09:01 schestowitz-TR; to do more articles
09:01 schestowitz-TR; i already sleep little ^_^
09:01 schestowitz-TR; took a ton of rss obboard
09:01 schestowitz-TR; this is good if well managed
09:01 schestowitz-TR; just had kitchen chat about this, 5-20 min
09:01 schestowitz-TR; doing more coding to take itfurther would be nice
09:01 schestowitz-TR; the progreams are all force multipliers
09:01 schestowitz-TR; and other sites cannot keep up
09:39 schestowitz-TR; looking at least rss_since
09:40 schestowitz-TR; i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper
09:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe almost identical to another
09:40 schestowitz-TR; but taking another list of URLs
09:40 schestowitz-TR; from a file
09:40 schestowitz-TR; that might explain why git does not have it?
09:40 schestowitz-TR; looking at least rss_since
09:40 schestowitz-TR; i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper
09:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe almost identical to another
09:40 schestowitz-TR; but taking another list of URLs
09:40 schestowitz-TR; from a file
09:40 schestowitz-TR; that might explain why git does not have it?
09:58 techrigthssec; The XML in OPML is very simple, not much more complex than DL in HTML
10:01 schestowitz-TR; ryan just wrote about cnet getting caught spewing out hey hi garbage as articles
10:01 schestowitz-TR; i think the www will leave people fatigued and cynical
10:01 schestowitz-TR; either way, i am happy to have this new drive
10:01 schestowitz-TR; maybe this lapto can last 5 years now
10:01 schestowitz-TR; newer distro too
10:01 schestowitz-TR; i still need to adjust it
10:01 schestowitz-TR; took my sister a week to adapt after debian 0 to 11 shock
10:01 schestowitz-TR; i cannot find any way to install synergy so fat
10:01 schestowitz-TR; (far
10:01 schestowitz-TR; the company wants money
10:01 schestowitz-TR; but i have contingencies
10:02 techrigthssec; I would have thought that Devuan would be a good choice.
10:02 techrigthssec; Barrier is the FOSS equivalent to Synergy iirc
10:02 schestowitz-TR; i used both in tabdem
10:02 schestowitz-TR; it was hard to configure this week
10:02 schestowitz-TR; and i forgot how i did it
10:09 techrigthssec; I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later
10:12 schestowitz-TR; i think i'd like to think laterally for a bit how to better assess ad survey news over rss
10:12 schestowitz-TR; i have been doing the same thing for 20 years
10:12 schestowitz-TR; there must be a better way then rssown, thunderbird, and quiterss
10:12 schestowitz-TR; for instance, clustering of related theme
10:12 schestowitz-TR; more efficiency means broader coverage, faster
10:12 schestowitz-TR; each time i rebuild it gives a change to start afresh with another approach/focus
10:12 schestowitz-TR; i've not yet restored quiterss, only installed it
10:15 techrigthssec; I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later
10:15 techrigthssec; One way would be to read the OPML file into a database and then use the
10:15 techrigthssec; database to fetch the feeds which are ready for fetching and create an HTML
10:15 techrigthssec; file of the results to browse. The advantage is that the real browsers are
10:15 techrigthssec; much better suited for browsing than QuiteRSS and its competitors are. The
10:15 techrigthssec; biggest down side is that no browsers allow markign a link as "unread".
10:15 techrigthssec; Doing it in Perl would be relatively easy and quite good qualitu but for
10:15 techrigthssec; political purposes Python3 would be a more strategic option since certain
10:15 techrigthssec; communities are investing in Python training.
10:15 schestowitz-TR; in 2005 ish [h]omerfrom cols/usenet, who slaso started our irc channel in freenode, developed
10:15 schestowitz-TR; a parser in python for rss feeds, for usenet
10:15 schestowitz-TR; but it didn't go far, it did not do anything too witty
10:16 techrigthssec; The OPML input is easy, and there seem to be good XML parsers for Python3
10:16 techrigthssec; but the examples provided in the documentation are simmplistic to the point\
10:16 techrigthssec; of being almost irrelevant
10:21 schestowitz-TR; good
10:21 schestowitz-TR; to put it one way, next 5 days might be slow/catching up
10:21 schestowitz-TR; but i expect the next 5 years to be good and productive
10:21 schestowitz-TR; with so many hours freed up and proper sleep
10:21 schestowitz-TR; i want to work on processing of information
10:21 schestowitz-TR; this can also be done for geminispace
10:21 schestowitz-TR; at a much smaller scale
10:21 schestowitz-TR; the core issue many have is,
10:21 schestowitz-TR; too much 'information'
10:21 schestowitz-TR; with so littke signal
10:21 schestowitz-TR; sites that parrot PR
10:21 schestowitz-TR; sometimes varghese does this too (again)
10:21 schestowitz-TR; i am going to move all video making to obs studio and alter preview.sh to do the metadata right
10:22 schestowitz-TR; i have worked to make the pipeline less dependent on one physical machine
10:23 schestowitz-TR; 8 machines here are always turned on with undertilised CPUs/capacity
10:23 schestowitz-TR; we get fibre this coming week, this time they do is PROPERLT
10:23 schestowitz-TR; not experimental like summer 2021
10:24 techrigthssec; How fast fibre will it be? If there is a price difference for faster there
10:24 techrigthssec; is not much point in going over 100Mb/s because nearly every web server
10:24 techrigthssec; is sluggish and the pages they serve clogged with remote objects and scripts
10:24 techrigthssec; to ensure that the page does not render faster than 15 seconds any way
10:24 schestowitz-TR; exactly
10:24 schestowitz-TR; i told them that
10:43 schestowitz-TR; that is the equivalent of my unis and clients that get 128 core machines
10:43 schestowitz-TR; that are like... idle 80% of the time
10:43 schestowitz-TR; so the capacity only helps bursts
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12:26 schestowitz[TR]; mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-latest-tmp.8FuruXm' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.html': Permission denied
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; Writing the RSS feed for HTTP
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-xhtml-tmp.tr9ADHx' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xml': Permission denied
12:28 schestowitz-TR; just wondered if work is being done there
12:28 schestowitz-TR; happened twice, node seems to be saved, but the above happens
12:35 techrigthssec; try now
12:35 techrigthssec; just folded blogs into the document root but it may have disturbed some of the
12:35 techrigthssec; directory permissions despite best efforts
12:35 schestowitz-TR; thanks, it is ok now
12:38 techrigthssec; Great. Sorry about the disturbance
12:38 techrigthssec; See now http://news.tuxmachines.org/blog/
12:38 techrigthssec; Some of the static links there might be adjusted but the main problematic
12:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Blogs | Tux Machines
12:38 techrigthssec; links like for login or registration have been deactivated.
12:39 schestowitz-TR; thanks, some of the links ther work, some do not
12:39 techrigthssec; Which do not?
12:40 schestowitz-TR; individual pages of the posts for example
12:43 techrigthssec; Can you give some examples, the ones I tested work so it appears that parts
12:43 techrigthssec; may be missing but which ones?
12:43 schestowitz-TR; oddly enough the same pages seem to work now^_^
12:47 techrigthssec; That was the IDS apparently. It is not yet tuned to the new pages :(
12:47 techrigthssec; I'll leave it off for now, but will have to add more conditionals to it.
12:48 schestowitz-TR; thanks for that!\
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13:05 techrigthssec; It'll need to be tuned properly since it will turn on in its current
13:05 techrigthssec; incarnation (or whatever is saved) at next reboot
13:24 techrigthssec; The Apache2 logs have not been rotating, there seem to have been double
13:24 techrigthssec; configurations there for logrotate.d
13:24 techrigthssec; Checking
13:24 techrigthssec; There is an error in ssl.conf for apache2
13:24 techrigthssec; The file itself was in the way because the main configuration file covers TLS
13:24 techrigthssec; nowadays.
13:24 techrigthssec; It was from 17 jan. I wonder if apk packaging does that with the updates?
13:24 techrigthssec; I sure hope not.
13:24 schestowitz-TR; rotstion of the access logs almost never worked
13:24 schestowitz-TR; since august
13:31 techrigthssec; Ok. Log rotation /should/ work now. I just checked via the daily shell script
13:31 techrigthssec; The defective SSL file has been moved out of the way, but there is a small
13:31 techrigthssec; question about the Certificate since it generates a warning.
13:31 techrigthssec; """
13:31 techrigthssec; server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE
13:31 techrigthssec; """
13:31 techrigthssec; I wonder if the system updates themselves break the custom rotation rules?
13:55 techrigthssec; Hmm. The blogs should have gone under /old
13:55 techrigthssec; I wonder if it is feasible to try to move them.
13:55 techrigthssec; Probably not since it would require doing modifications to many, many href
13:55 techrigthssec; attributes.
13:56 schestowitz-TR; i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end
13:56 techrigthssec; git pull origin master
13:56 techrigthssec; or do you mean clone ?
14:00 schestowitz-TR; i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end
14:00 schestowitz-TR; need to first configure where to connect
14:00 schestowitz-TR; the keys work for ssh
14:00 techrigthssec; Yes that configuration data goes in ~/.ssh/config
14:00 techrigthssec; so then you can do:
14:00 techrigthssec; git clone tm-git:tuxmachines.org
14:00 techrigthssec; or some other shortcut
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14:16 schestowitz-TR; is there a particular identityfile?
14:17 techrigthssec; The key that you log in with to tm-new can be used.
14:44 techrigthssec; Where you able to clone the tm repository?
14:45 schestowitz-TR; unfortunately no
14:54 techrigthssec; Can you SSH to tm-new as 'roy' ?
14:54 techrigthssec; It looks like you can. The same key and such should give you access to Git
14:54 techrigthssec; Ah. Found a bug.
14:54 techrigthssec; Checking...
14:59 techrigthssec; You'll need a proper entry in ~/.ssh/config for news.tuxmachines.org
14:59 techrigthssec; It must include both IdentityFile and IdentityOnly and it would be a good idea
14:59 techrigthssec; if it also includes User too
14:59 techrigthssec; then
14:59 techrigthssec; git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org
14:59 techrigthssec; that path is modifiable
15:03 schestowitz-TR; warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
15:05 schestowitz-TR; big progress though
15:05 schestowitz-TR; thank you
15:05 schestowitz-TR; i almost caught up with all of the links you sent today and yesterdy
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15:52 schestowitz-TR; did not sleep much last night
15:52 schestowitz-TR; still catching up
15:52 schestowitz-TR; made massive progres today though!
15:52 schestowitz-TR; i want to soon figure out how to better analyse and assess feeds
15:52 schestowitz-TR; the, today I thought of a way to also apply camelcase to them in TM
15:52 schestowitz-TR; gn
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23:05 techrigthssec; git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org; cd tuxmachines; git checkout master;
23:05 techrigthssec; ^cd tuxmachines.org
23:05 techrigthssec; XOR
23:05 techrigthssec; git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org -b master
23:20 schestowitz-TR; done :))))
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