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07:37 techrights-sec[2]; This one got truncated in gemini:
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/when-digital-systems-fail/
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; Rather than modify the code, it might be more useful to fix the HTML
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; fixed
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; there were too many redundant div elements
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; the tree has to stay rather flat
07:37 techrights-sec[2]; s/redundant/redundant, nested/
07:37 schestowitz-TR2; yes, the divs came from the original html
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07:48 schestowitz-TR2; oh, good, you find something in reuters that validates what I said about twitter losing a ton
07:48 schestowitz-TR2; of activity. it makes up for it by funnelling remaining users into emotional trips.
07:48 schestowitz-TR2; musk and the head choppers waste money, no idea why, but I can guess
07:58 techrights-sec[2]; ack
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; optimal time to leave was, when the threats started
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; I think early 2021
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; up until then I had to spend almost no time on it
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; but in 2019 there was already this 'cancel culture' thing
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; that led me to not reply to anything
08:00 schestowitz-TR2; it would take time before I received threats over my speech
08:23 schestowitz-TR2; "Health is the most important aspect of your life!" gemini://snonux.land/gemfeed/2022-10-27-if-health-isnt-there.gmi
08:24 techrights-sec[2]; The threats are tolerated by the management there and even encouraged if they
08:24 techrights-sec[2]; support particular agendas or suppress specific topics
08:25 schestowitz-TR2; you would think after posting nearly a million tweets I would NOT wans it to crash and burn
08:41 schestowitz-TR2; [topic] Twitter is Concerned That Its Most Valuable Users Quit in Droves
08:41 schestowitz-TR2; Musk and the Saudis still want a dying platform, FB shares fell to 100 dollars (from almost 400)
08:41 schestowitz-TR2; trying to cling onto Microsoft for survival, like Netflix
08:41 schestowitz-TR2; we need about 4-6 topics, then I can record efficiently
08:41 techrights-sec[2]; If the Unified Patent Court (UPC) is illegal because a) it strictly requires
08:41 techrights-sec[2]; the UK to be within the EU to sign and b) there are various consitutional
08:41 techrights-sec[2]; issues confirmed by courts, then which source for a) and b) ?
08:41 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
08:41 techrights-sec[2]; [citations for a and b are super important]
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08:46 schestowitz-TR2; "Election Denial" is what Bill Gates-bribed Pro Publica collectively calls rejection of back-doored Windows voting machines https://www.propublica.org/article/uline-uihlein-election-denial
08:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.propublica.org | How the Uline Box Empire Has Fueled Election Denial ProPublica
08:50 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.jordanharbinger.com/harri-hursti-the-cyber-war-on-americas-elections/
08:50 techrights-sec[2]; (old)
08:50 techrights-sec[2]; US is ignoring the 'long' game
08:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jordanharbinger.com | Harri Hursti | The Cyber War on America's Elections | The Jordan Harbinger Show 405
08:53 techrights-sec[2]; old https://estoniaevoting.org/team/
08:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-estoniaevoting.org | The Team | Independent Report on E-voting in Estonia
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; unfortunately that topic is one which is banned from twitter and other social
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; control media and only pits cover it -- so far
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/man-buys-michigan-voting-machine-off-ebay-the-secretary-of-state-has-questions
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
08:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fox2detroit.com | Man buys Michigan voting machine off EBay. The Secretary of State has questions
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; many reasons not to use "webmail" in place of e-mail:
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; a case for commodity services, open standards, and free choice of client sofrware
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
08:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion
09:01 techrights-sec[2]; https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/25/what-if-journalism-disappeared/
09:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What if Journalism Disappeared? - scheerpost.com
09:01 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
09:02 schestowitz-TR2; ok, got 5 topics now
09:02 schestowitz-TR2; that's enough for now :D
09:06 techrights-sec[2]; ack
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; lunduke has just uploaded another new youtube to a fanfare of 150 viewers
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; those sem bland and have no actual topic, just a mishmash
09:16 techrights-sec[2]; Bryan's decline has been sad
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; i still see all his blog posts
09:17 schestowitz-TR2; maybe 1 in 10 has some real value, so it's a low yield
09:17 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, I will record shortly, got some material
09:17 schestowitz-TR2; I'll try to keep videos shorter
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09:48 schestowitz-TR2; OTA
09:48 schestowitz-TR2; long, many
10:44 schestowitz-TR2; donex5
10:44 schestowitz-TR2; now text...
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; productive so farf today
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10:54 schestowitz-TR2; draft
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; ack
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; checking
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; some stats would help, you have several links from a few years ago showing
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; in real numbers the actual decline
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; good thinking, I think we should do a followup with numeric data
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; I can do some at my end too
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; later on..
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; I've just added a long footnote to the summary
10:59 schestowitz-TR2; (video still processing, it's all unscripted, but that helps prepare me for the text)
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; right but the current draft needs some real numbers even if a followup is
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; done later
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/
↺ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; https://academic.oup.com/book/9680/chapter-abstract/156813089?redirhttps://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2022/06/
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; newspapers-close-decline-in-local-journalism/
11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pewresearch.org | U.S. newsroom employment has fallen 26% since 2008 | Pew Research Center
11:02 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.poynter.org/business-work/2022/how-we-end-local-news-deserts/
11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-academic.oup.com | The Decline of Journalism since 1945 | Making News: The Political Economy of Journalism in Britain and America from the Glorious Revolution to the Internet | Oxford Academic
11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.poynter.org | How we end local news deserts - Poynter
11:02 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, adding......
11:03 techrights-sec[2]; np
11:03 techrights-sec[2]; plus the others you already have on file ...
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11:46 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.techrepublic.com/article/military-intelligence-dod-finally-finally-bans-html-e-mail/
11:46 techrights-sec[2]; https://aty.sdsu.edu/bibliog/HTML.html
11:46 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.networkworld.com/article/2333079/html-e-mail-not-worth-the-risk.html
11:46 techrights-sec[2]; http://archive.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html
11:46 techrights-sec[2]; http://www.asciiribbon.org/
11:46 techrights-sec[2]; https://web.archive.org/web/20010824052537/http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Military Intelligence? DoD finally (FINALLY) bans HTML e-mail | TechRepublic
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-aty.sdsu.edu | Why NOT to use HTML in e-mail
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.networkworld.com | HTML e-mail not worth the risk | Network World
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.birdhouse.org | Why HTML in E-Mail is a Bad Idea
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.asciiribbon.org | The Ascii Ribbon Campaign official homepage
11:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | 7 reasons why HTML email is a bad thing
11:46 schestowitz-TR2; draft
11:46 schestowitz-TR2; adding...
11:59 schestowitz-TR2; dradft
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12:28 schestowitz-TR2; dradft
12:28 schestowitz-TR2; i am paraphrasing at the moment for the blank summary
12:28 schestowitz-TR2; thanks
12:28 schestowitz-TR2; next post will take longer, it's the upc thing
12:28 schestowitz-TR2; video already processing
12:36 schestowitz-TR2; rianne just posted in TM
12:36 schestowitz-TR2; when when it reached the gemini stage it presented a ton of output in the CLI
12:36 schestowitz-TR2; I checked see see html and it's fine
12:36 schestowitz-TR2; in gemini I noticed the 'refresh'-like character does not show up correctly in recent notes
12:36 schestowitz-TR2; but shows up OK in order pages
12:38 techrights-sec[2]; np
12:38 techrights-sec[2]; oops
12:38 techrights-sec[2]; checking, probably debug material got left in
12:38 techrights-sec[2]; fixed
12:38 techrights-sec[2]; thanks for spotting it
12:38 techrights-sec[2];
12:38 schestowitz-TR2; no worries, she caught it very fast :-)
12:38 schestowitz-TR2; we had another tech issue this morning when she could not find her ebay text file
12:39 schestowitz-TR2; but we located it OK :-)
13:52 schestowitz-TR2; draft
13:52 schestowitz-TR2; thanks to irc being quiet I've been a lot more productive this past day
13:52 schestowitz-TR2; even managed to sleep more!
13:56 techrights-sec[2]; checking
13:56 techrights-sec[2]; graft or grift ?
13:56 techrights-sec[2]; "because of a legal commitmemnt" -> citation needed
13:56 techrights-sec[2]; what is the connection to kaynewest?
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; i think grifting and graft are the same
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; but not grafting
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; I've just reworded it
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; i clarified why kanye mentioned
13:59 techrights-sec[2]; Both sleep and productivity !
13:59 techrights-sec[2]; there are big differences both are unethical and/or illegal though
13:59 schestowitz-TR2; (graft/grift)
14:01 techrights-sec[2]; thanks
14:02 schestowitz-TR2; the link provided covers both the uk issue and hungary issue (2018)
14:02 schestowitz-TR2; two in one
14:06 techrights-sec[2]; which link ?
14:06 techrights-sec[2]; Can it be highlighted with an illuminating sentence?
14:07 schestowitz-TR2; I will emphasise these points better in the next part of the series
14:07 schestowitz-TR2; I still don't show all the cards
14:07 schestowitz-TR2; also, I think sending links to MEPs gives them "more work"
14:07 schestowitz-TR2; better to first touch baser and check their interest
14:07 schestowitz-TR2; *base
14:23 techrights-sec[2]; [citatin needed]
14:25 schestowitz-TR2; said the Wikipedia article, groomed with many "reputable" law firms as citations ;-)
14:25 schestowitz-TR2; they get paid a lot per hour, so they MUST be right
14:26 schestowitz-TR2; rianne found only 2 links
14:26 schestowitz-TR2; slow news again, it must be weekend already for site editors ;-)
14:28 techrights-sec[2]; ack
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; this means I need to let it pile up a bit, then get creative with clustering to make the stories more ponent
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; by quantity
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; I took a peek, it's dry like weekends
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; it's a miiracle that things just magicallyh "stopped happening" in the worlsd
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; when journalism died
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; like in china...
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; "no news is good news; now go back to work, the price of food will double soon"
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; -
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; if you check recent entries in tuxmachines over gemini://
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; you will see that headlines struggle with "special" chars
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; I checked older pages and they worked correctly
14:50 schestowitz-TR2; maybe type or char def somewhere?
15:24 techrights-sec[2]; ack
15:24 techrights-sec[2]; checking
15:24 techrights-sec[2]; playing whac-a-mole with utf-8 quirks
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; I still have not solved all the urf woes at my end
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; and rely a lot of substitution hacks
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; so much for standards
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; and handling of "universal" languages
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; html is much of the same
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; kiss would have prevented at least some of this chaos
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; in librewold i still have some utf-8 issues
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; and they probablky struggle to fix those
15:26 schestowitz-TR2; as the firefox codebase is vast
15:29 schestowitz-TR2; (NEW): The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.gmi
15:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists
15:30 schestowitz-TR2; abandoning email for "web" (JS crap, bloat, hard to maintain in the long run -> data loss)
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15:32 techrights-sec[2]; The core of the problem is that bytes were misused as being synonymous with
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; characters back in the day. Now 20+ years later, we are still dealing with
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; the cruft and legacy.
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; The good part in the TM work flow is that the problems have nearly all been
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; in the last step or very close to it. Most importantly of all the data has
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; been getting into the database in the correct encoding. So far.
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; Not enough time is spent in most projects to remove or clean up old code.
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; There are a lot of merits to even "just" updating to the current writing style
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; because old mistakes will surface through that process. However, in the
15:32 techrights-sec[2]; specific case of FF and TB you have the proble of it looking like Baker is out
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; to slowly destroy the project from within on behalf of the "donor" Google
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; Not just data loss but financial loss since HTML mail in general and web mail
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; in particular make it not just feasible but easy to phish at the same time
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; it makes it all but impossible to avoid phishing other than by acting on
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; hunches or clues because all the real information is hidden. Beyond hiding,
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; your old friend javascript can be used to obfuscate the true destination
15:33 techrights-sec[2]; of various embedded links. So "hovering" over them will give a false message.
15:35 matteobin; That's sad, I really like mailing lists. :(
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; tbh, I was never a fan
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; I liked knode for newsgroups better
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; but some mail clients handle mailing lists well
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; not the web based ones
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; but email is "old"
15:38 techrights-sec[2]; NNTP is "old"
15:39 techrights-sec[2]; I wonder whose decision it was to go "CMS'
15:39 techrights-sec[2]; with simple discussions
15:39 matteobin; I use mutt: it's old and it rocks. So does email. Who cares if it's old?
15:41 techrights-sec[2]; theory:
15:42 techrights-sec[2]; people who cannot master "old" things try to impose "new" on the elders
15:43 matteobin; Maybe
15:43 matteobin; But I'm not old.
15:43 matteobin; I'm 27. I was born when mutt was created.
15:43 schestowitz-TR2; reasons to like simpler tools:
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; 1) they don't change too much
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; 2) archiving can be simpler, portability too
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; I still use Palm PDA of the old generation
15:44 matteobin; Indeed
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; "modern" stuff changes too fast and too often
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; even wordpress
15:44 schestowitz-TR2; because of imaginiary users
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; they say they make it easier for "n00bs"
15:45 matteobin; Life's short and hard. There is no value in learning new shiny tools if it's not really worth it.
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; but actually they tend to further complicate the UI
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; and..
15:45 matteobin; Damn noobs! :D
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; they make ito harder for people who trained for the old UI
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: did you read the article from Andy?
15:46 schestowitz-TR2; gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/26/How_Digital_Systems_Fail_Our_Institutions_By_Dr_Andy_Farnell.gmi
15:46 schestowitz-TR2; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/when-digital-systems-fail/index.gmi
15:46 schestowitz-TR2; it covers those points
15:46 schestowitz-TR2; how his students (he's a university teacher) struggle because they keep "improving" the system
15:46 matteobin; I don't have a gemini client.
15:47 schestowitz-TR2; ok, wait
15:49 schestowitz; http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/when-digital-systems-fail/index.gmi
15:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights
15:49 schestowitz; ffs, firefox just fired ADS at me!
15:58 matteobin; I'll read it. Thanks.
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, i messed up :(
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; i also need to delete firefox I think
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; see post from 30 secs ago
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; germany is priority atm because they have not ratified but MIGHT in nov of dev
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; *dec
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; we want to delay or prevent this
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; as we succcessfully did in 2017
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; they were ABOUT to ratify
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; france ratified
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; uk cannot ratify
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; 3 are a MUST
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; (re upc)
16:03 techrights-sec[2]; Checking
16:03 techrights-sec[2]; not sure what the post is about but it seems related to ryan's?
16:04 matteobin; Why do you want to delete FF?
16:04 schestowitz-TR2; ryan did not focus on the ads aspect
16:06 schestowitz-TR2; Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/
16:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights
16:12 matteobin; That article is great!
16:12 matteobin; THANK YOU!
16:12 matteobin; You made my day.
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; :-)
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; I will tell Andy
16:12 matteobin; Whenever I read thinkgs like that I feel not alone.
16:12 matteobin; Sometimes I fear to be paranoid or mad.
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; he wrote many other good articles
16:12 schestowitz-TR2; that you can find in TR
16:13 matteobin; At least I'm not the only one.
16:13 schestowitz-TR2; no, i am the same
16:13 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2] also
16:13 matteobin; I should definetely change job.
16:13 schestowitz-TR2; "too much" fake "tech"
16:13 schestowitz-TR2; they're pioured out mustard all over the steak
16:14 matteobin; Indeed. I've recently started learning C, reading The C Programming Language and it's so much better.
16:15 matteobin; I'm touched by its simplicity yet its usefulness.
16:16 matteobin; People keep telling me "modern" systems are good, but I don't see why FOR ME they should be great.
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; techrights-sec[2]:
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; re breyer
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; i want to be amici to him
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; not inbox nuisance
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; so no URLs yet
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; just preliminary chat
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; he knows TR already
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; and knows the issues
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; he hates swpats
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: I sent to andy your feedback
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; by email
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; (just now)
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: we still use irc
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; born 1988
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; I adopted it when I was 14 or 13
16:22 schestowitz-TR2; i still use it
16:22 schestowitz-TR2; it still works, even better than before
16:22 schestowitz-TR2; but it is compatible with 1980s systems
16:23 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/
16:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights
16:23 matteobin; I've started using IRC recently, because I wanted to know people who valued the same things I value.
16:24 schestowitz-TR2; you can still use this channel with an old clunker from the 1980s
16:24 schestowitz-TR2; and the site with 1990s browsers
16:24 matteobin; It's so refreshing to talk with people like you, really. It's hard to be the only "strange" IT guy.
16:25 matteobin; Even my friends think I'm kind of mad.
16:25 schestowitz-TR2; no, we are not few
16:25 schestowitz-TR2; many like us
16:25 matteobin; They don't understand, they usually think in shorterm.
16:25 schestowitz-TR2; but the media discards us
16:25 schestowitz-TR2; we're not good for its advertisers
16:25 schestowitz-TR2; I'm a c programmer also
16:26 matteobin; Nice!
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; it's not the only domain where the people who know the trade reject a lot of its products
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; as insufficiency good
16:26 matteobin; You're right.
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; those who follow the herd out of insecurity are ill informed
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; because they are ill-equipped to know the impact
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; like what happens when they pay with ID
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; (card, loyalty card, credit card)
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; and what happens to this data
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; or what that phone in the pocket does
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; and how much electricity it takes
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; and the impact of radiation
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; (a suppressed issue)
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; I'd listen to the chef, not the cook
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16:28 schestowitz-TR2; and certainly not the person at the till
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; they just want to maximise sales
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16:28 matteobin; I host my own mail, XMPP, FTP, VoIP and web server. Some or VPS, others not. But that's the way schools or businesses should do it.
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; and would even inject water into the chicken to fake its size
16:28 matteobin; Many chefs are seduced by this world.
16:28 matteobin; Because it pays a lot of money.
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; > But that's the way schools or businesses should do it.
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; that is how they used to do it
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; before "clown computing" hype
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; like you are left behind if you don't outsource all your systems
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; were were there before
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; ICBM mainframes
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; and then servers got cheaper
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; and now we're meant to become mere "subscribers" for servers
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; and for phones, PCs
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; "enter your gmail account to start using this laptop..."
16:30 matteobin; Yes, exactly. My high school website praises itself because they use the G-Suite. Really?! Information Freedom...
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; gulag is slavery
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; or rather
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; more politely, colonialism
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; and you can see who bankrolls this
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; the same country that put like 40 military bases in your country
16:30 schestowitz-TR2; even 80 years after the war
16:31 matteobin; I concur!
16:31 matteobin; You are so right.
16:32 matteobin; It's hard to express how I feel traped by all this madness.
16:32 matteobin; *trapped
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; things changed
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; because some european countries vote for fascists
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; and the media cannot stop this
16:32 schestowitz-TR2; nor can I
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; because they are fed up with colonial economy
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; but the people fail to see the real issue is not "the immigrants"
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; and we're decades to late to change it
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; a lot of italian [sic] cars are made in parts abroad
16:33 schestowitz-TR2; then assembled locally
16:34 schestowitz-TR2; relying on cheap labour abroad
16:34 matteobin; Don't tell me. We've had elections recently... :'(
16:44 techrights-sec[2]; Alex Jones' business model was actually lying. He apparently never had any
16:44 techrights-sec[2]; other intention.
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; in the past, some politicians leaked material to TR
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; but I cannot name them or give pointers
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; as that can expose who they were
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; TR is one of those "dirty" sites some people never want to publicly admit they read
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; but they read it
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; and it is demonised
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; that almost all epo workers at least habitually read it says a lot
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; because they know how to assess veracity of sources
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; based on their actual track record
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; alex jones got in deep shit because he lies
16:44 schestowitz-TR2; we're ok after 16 years
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; no lawsuits filed, nothing to sue over
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; but we're demonised for truth
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; he's demonised for bullshit
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; and dog whistles
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; apropos, john the dr. from carlyle is demonised by the cartel in youtube
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; and they try to deplatform him
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; I don't expect to ever be "popular" with everyone
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; pocock failed to protect his name, imho
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; partly because of some tasteless thing he did in fact publish
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; matteobin: posted in block chunks as we use ytalk over ssh
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; very old school
16:48 techrights-sec[2]; ack
16:49 matteobin; What is TR? And what does ACK mean?
16:51 schestowitz-TR2; techrights
16:51 schestowitz-TR2; and "acknowledged"
16:51 schestowitz-TR2; New NHS data: COVID-19 TESTS are down. Yay!! VICTORY! We're not checking infections.
16:51 schestowitz-TR2; Soon 210,000 COVID-19-linked deaths in the UK. About 2000 EXTRA deaths each WEEK, not attributed to COVID-19 because we're not properly testing or checking the root causes.
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16:53 schestowitz-TR2; To know what's going on with COVID-19 in the UK follow ONS for estimates of fatalities/victims/casualties of the surge of COVID-19. It's about 2000 more people PER WEEK (than before pandemic). That's almost 10,000 EXTRA deaths PER MONTH. The media doesn't talk about this.
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16:56 matteobin; How do you talk via SSH? What does EPO stand for?
16:59 matteobin; Oh... talk is a program. I didn't know that.
17:00 schestowitz-TR2; talk or ytalk
17:00 schestowitz-TR2; EPO is European Patent Office
17:00 schestowitz-TR2; we posted about 4000 articles about EPO this past decade
17:00 schestowitz-TR2; it is the elephant in the room
17:00 schestowitz-TR2; super corrupt
17:01 schestowitz-TR2; and europe's SECOND-LARGEST org
17:01 schestowitz-TR2; selling monopolies to foreign firms
17:03 matteobin; Oh... I see.
17:05 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO
17:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights
17:13 techrights-sec[2]; ack
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; some evil tongue about PP and Breyer also
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; UPC boosters got very aggressive
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; and they are bulldozing the law atm
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; hoping not to get caught
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; after decade of lying to client
17:14 schestowitz-TR2; *clients
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17:16 techrights-sec[2]; ack
17:17 schestowitz-TR2; iow, epo/megacros/law firms (upc) discredit europe, eu, and "the systems" (several of them)
17:17 schestowitz-TR2; but the media goes out of its way to not explain what goes on
17:17 schestowitz-TR2; so f* them
17:18 schestowitz-TR2; wait, better to say, today's media is PART of "the system"
17:18 schestowitz-TR2; hence, it does not eat its own
17:18 schestowitz-TR2; and it tries to deplatform the opposition
17:20 matteobin; Gotta go. Thank you again for the article.
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17:28 techrights-sec[2]; ack
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19:12 schestowitz-TR2; yesterday was nice and calm
19:12 schestowitz-TR2; today started on the right track
19:12 schestowitz-TR2; irc is the sum total of the people in it
19:12 schestowitz-TR2; for now, I keep out until it settles
19:12 schestowitz-TR2; focusing on news
19:16 schestowitz-TR2; there is no _safer_ alternative to coexistence
19:16 schestowitz-TR2; not saner, safter
19:16 schestowitz-TR2; *safer
19:16 schestowitz-TR2; I'm reading rss links now
19:16 schestowitz-TR2; time wasted: 0 seconds
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19:28 techrights-sec[2]; https://birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/
19:28 techrights-sec[2]; "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it."
19:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader
19:28 schestowitz-TR2; that was about Microsoft ;-)
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; I'm more like Ray Noorda
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft is... unique
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, I look away and get shit done
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; irc has beena round for ages
19:33 schestowitz-TR2; it won't end without someone 'pulling a Lee'
19:34 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is leaving tomorrow around noon
19:34 schestowitz-TR2; that won't affect anything I do
19:34 schestowitz-TR2; I'll try to do more videos later tonioght
19:34 schestowitz-TR2; if you have any topics
19:34 schestowitz-TR2; I can see some in 'the news' but they're not "novel" or exciting
19:36 schestowitz-TR2; ----
19:36 schestowitz-TR2; rianne's mom keeps reminding her to make lots of food and prepare
19:36 schestowitz-TR2; and she keeps joking about it
19:36 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, there is fresh cooked food, a fridge and freezer full already
19:36 schestowitz-TR2; and the house is very clean
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; ----
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; poor brian fagioli, unable to attract comments
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; he starts provoking aqndf baiting
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; a very short-term strategy
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; nestor hates his guts for it
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; and really likes how TR is having a go at his drama
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; nestor never covers corporate/LF shit
19:38 schestowitz-TR2; and almost never write provocative headlines or covers controversial topics
19:41 schestowitz-TR2; afew hours ago I joked with rianne about how some trolls try to mess with people's temper and
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; cause impatience a
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; and how with me, unlike her, they are largely unsuccessful
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; I learned from a mistake I made like 18 years ago when responding to a super-nasty troll
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; and then got quoted without the context
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, with upc too, it is a political strategt
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; taking breaks from irc is as easy as moving to another virtual desktop on that screen and coming back
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; later on
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; with annoying news, food or exercise breaks help as well
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; and never typing an actual article whilst angry
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; because emotion and facts are separate
19:42 schestowitz-TR2; I learned that from OOXML saga
19:42 techrights-sec[2]; ack
21:03 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.it/planert41/status/1585662371586101250#m
21:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-PPE (@planert41): "Someone just wrote about this http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/when-digital-systems-fail/"|nitter.it
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